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Want more AI tools that will automate your work like this? Get a list of 40+ tools here: https://clickhubspot.com/mcb Ep. 347 Is this AI browser really good enough to be your default? Kipp dives into a hands-on unboxing of Perplexity's new Comet browser to find out if the hype lives up to the reality, and whether AI-native browsing can truly supercharge your marketing and business workflow. Learn more about unlocking the potential of AI-powered web browsing, top marketing use cases, and productivity hacks you can implement right now. Mentions Perplexity Comet https://comet.perplexity.ai/ Ramp https://ramp.com/intelligence Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt We're creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you're facing at work or in your business. To understand your biggest challenges we've put together a survey and we'd love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research Resource [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip We're on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg  Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod  Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don't forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934   If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar   Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat  ‘Marketing Against The Grain' is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.

Want 22 ChatGPT Agents you can launch in 5 minutes? Get the prompts here: https://clickhubspot.com/akv Ep. 346 Is ChatGPT agent actually a game changer for marketers, or just more overhyped AI?  Kieran dives into whether ChatGPT agent can truly automate complex marketing and growth tasks, or if specialized AI tools still reign supreme. Learn more on how the new agent stacks up against human marketers, where it shines and struggles in competitive research and crafting presentations, and what the future of managing fleets of AI agents means for your productivity. Mentions ChatGPT agent https://openai.com/index/introducing-chatgpt-agent/ Perplexity https://www.perplexity.ai/ Genspark https://www.genspark.ai/ Replit https://replit.com/ Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt We're creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you're facing at work or in your business. To understand your biggest challenges we've put together a survey and we'd love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research Resource [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip We're on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg  Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod  Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don't forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934   If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar   Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat  ‘Marketing Against The Grain' is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.

Want our 10 Vibe Code Prompts? Get it here: https://clickhubspot.com/aeh Ep. 345 Is “vibe coding” the most addictive and important new skill for marketers in 2025? Kieran dives into how any marketer can quickly build lightweight tools and apps using AI and no-code platforms like ChatGPT, Perplexity Labs, and Replit. Learn more on defining your ICP (ideal customer profile) in record time, generating powerful code-powered lead magnets, and why building product demos and interactive experiences is now the ultimate way to attract and convert your audience. Mentions ChatGPT https://chatgpt.com/ Perplexity https://www.perplexity.ai/ Replit https://replit.com/ Lovable https://lovable.dev/ Jason Lemkin https://x.com/jasonlk Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt We're creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you're facing at work or in your business. To understand your biggest challenges we've put together a survey and we'd love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research Resource [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip We're on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg  Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod  Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don't forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934   If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar   Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat  ‘Marketing Against The Grain' is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.

Want our 10 Prompts + Web App to Create a Lead Magnet? Get it here: https://clickhubspot.com/vwd Ep. 344 Did you know you can go from idea to publishing a working lead magnet app in under an hour with AI? Kipp dives into how AI code generation tools are changing the game for small businesses and marketers by making it easier than ever to build free web applications that attract and convert customers. Learn more about leveraging ChatGPT and Claude to turn ideas into real web apps in minutes, the power of cloud-hosted artifacts for rapid prototyping, and actionable steps to test and validate your next lead magnet with almost zero coding experience. Mentions ChatGPT https://openai.com/index/chatgpt/ Claude https://claude.ai/ Claude Artifacts https://www.anthropic.com/news/build-artifacts Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt We're creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you're facing at work or in your business. To understand your biggest challenges we've put together a survey and we'd love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research Resource [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip We're on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg  Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod  Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don't forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934   If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar   Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat  ‘Marketing Against The Grain' is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.

Kieran Flanagan is the CMO at HubSpot, where he's led the transformation of their growth strategy from SEO-led to multi-channel and AI-powered. Formerly SVP of Marketing, he helped scale HubSpot's user base to millions and revenue past $2B. Before HubSpot, he drove breakout growth at Marketo and Salesforce. Kieran is one of the most respected voices in SaaS marketing and a pioneer in growth-driven content strategy. Agenda: 00:03 – The Death of Growth Teams? Kieran's Wild Prediction 06:44 – AI Innovation Pods: The New Org Structure for Startups 10:18 – Email Personalization That Tripled Conversions 13:21 – From Software Budget to Labor Budget: The Shift is Happening 16:35 – The Big Lie: Why Autonomous Agents Still Suck 19:24 – The Secret Sauce Behind HubSpot's Email AI Stack 21:44 – Segment-Based Marketing Is Dead. Enter Micro Audiences. 24:15 – Content Collapse: Why Google Organic Is Getting Torched 30:52 – The Future of AI SEO: 1 Product, 100 Pages, Infinite Prompts 33:16 – Memory = Moat: Why ChatGPT Is Becoming Unbeatable 35:46 – Prompt Engineering is the New Coding: Here's How to Win 41:03 – The Death of the Middle Manager Marketer 46:17 – OpenAI vs. Anthropic: Kieran's $400M Bet 48:00 – Europe Is Falling Behind: The Harsh Truth on Regulation 52:39 – CMO Playbook 2025: Micro-Audiences, Creator-Led, AI at Scale    

Ep. 340 Did you know that for every 18 pages Google scrapes from content publishers today, they now send back just one visit—down from two pages per visit a decade ago? Kieran dives into the “great content collapse” and what the changing landscape of AI-powered search means for the future of marketing and growth. Learn more on how Google and OpenAI are upending the traditional value exchange of content, why paid advertising costs are set to skyrocket, and what new playbooks marketers need as AI transforms how consumers find information online. Mentions Want our AI Search Domination Kit to master AI search? Get it here: https://clickhubspot.com/wpc Cloudflare https://www.cloudflare.com/ Matthew Prince https://www.linkedin.com/in/mprince/ Claude https://claude.ai/ Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt We're creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you're facing at work or in your business. To understand your biggest challenges we've put together a survey and we'd love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research Resource [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip We're on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg  Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod  Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don't forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934   If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar   Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat  ‘Marketing Against The Grain' is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.

Ep. 339 Did you know that Google search traffic is disappearing—and no one is giving us the new marketing playbooks? Kieran dives into how AI tools like Perplexity Labs are changing the game for marketers, revealing a future where you can create highly personalized campaigns at scale. Learn more on how to segment audiences in powerful new ways, leverage real-time signals from platforms like LinkedIn, and turn AI into your custom marketing team to generate more revenue and outpace the competition. Mentions Want our exact prompt that turns AI into a marketing machine? Get it here: https://clickhubspot.com/klc Perplexity Labs https://www.perplexity.ai/hub/blog/introducing-perplexity-labs Claude https://claude.ai/ Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt We're creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you're facing at work or in your business. To understand your biggest challenges we've put together a survey and we'd love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research Resource [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip We're on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg  Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod  Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don't forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934   If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar   Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat ‘Marketing Against The Grain' is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.

Ep. 338 Is AI video ready for primetime—or just a viral fad? Kipp and Kieran dive into the explosive growth and creative possibilities of AI-generated video, and what it means for businesses and marketers in 2025. Learn more on the latest viral AI video sensations (like cats in the Olympics!), the rapid rise in quality and accessibility of tools like VO3 and Hailuo AI, and how AI is revolutionizing short-form content creation and ad personalization for every business. Mentions Want the AI Video Guide? Get it here: https://clickhubspot.com/cko Perplexity https://www.perplexity.ai/ Hailuoai https://hailuoai.video/ Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt We're creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you're facing at work or in your business. To understand your biggest challenges we've put together a survey and we'd love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research Resource [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip We're on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg  Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod  Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don't forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934   If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar   Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat  ‘Marketing Against The Grain' is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.

#257 AI Strategy | Dave is joined by Kieran Flanagan, SVP of Marketing at HubSpot and former CMO at Zapier. Kieran is a rare blend of technical operator, creative strategist, and team builder. He's spent his career pushing the edges of B2B marketing, most recently through his work leading AI transformation initiatives at scale.Dave and Kieran cover:How AI is reshaping B2B marketing workflows, content creation, and team structureWhy the best marketers will specialize at the “outer edges” of creativity or technical execution (and what happens if you stay stuck in the middle)Kieran's leadership philosophy: how he manages 300+ people while staying deeply involved in creative executionWhether you're leading a marketing team or sharpening your own skills, this episode offers a clear look at how AI is changing the game and how B2B marketers can stay creative, strategic, and indispensable in the process.Timestamps(00:00) - – Intro (02:08) - – Kieran's marketing journey (04:08) - – His 2-year mission framework (06:08) - – Advice for early-career marketers (07:38) - – Why the grind still matters (09:08) - – Ireland's SaaS and startup scene (10:08) - – Balancing operator vs. manager (12:08) - – AI-generated “How to work with me” (14:38) - – Kieran's push-and-pull leadership style (16:08) - – Giving direct creative feedback (18:08) - – Why “collaborative brainstorms” fail (19:08) - – The value of strong opinions (20:08) - – Learning through tough feedback (21:08) - – ChatGPT as a creative partner (23:08) - – Claude vs. ChatGPT vs. Gemini (25:08) - – Prompting differences in GPT-3.5 vs. 4.0 (28:19) - – Decision fatigue and AI loyalty (29:19) - – Where AI is taking B2B marketing (30:19) - – From answers to actions (32:19) - – Micro-audiences and personalization (34:19) - – The return of branded traffic (35:19) - – Why AI reignited Kieran's spark (37:19) - – Avoiding AI-induced multitasking burnout (38:49) - – Deep work vs. whack-a-mole (39:49) - – Don Draper meets ChatGPT (40:49) - – Picking a lane: tech vs. creative (42:19) - – The value of podcasting practice (43:19) - – Building a prompt muscle (45:19) - – How Kieran trains GPTs (47:19) - – Prompting tips for marketers (48:19) - – The future CMO: part IC, part leader (49:19) - – How agencies will evolve with AI (50:19) - – In-person is back (51:19) - – Overrated AI use cases (52:19) - – Favorite tool: GenSpark (54:19) - – Mistakes marketers make with AI (55:19) - – Does anyone care if it's AI? (56:19) - – Lessons from fatherhood (57:19) - – Final thoughts and wrap-up Send guest pitches and ideas to hi@exitfive.comJoin the Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterCheck out the Exit Five job board: https://jobs.exitfive.com/Become an Exit Five member: https://community.exitfive.com/checkout/exit-five-membership***Today's episode is brought to you by Knak. Email (in my humble opinion) is the still the greatest marketing channel of all-time.It's the only way you can truly “own” your audience.But when it comes to building the emails - if you've ever tried building an email in an enterprise marketing automation platform, you know how painful it can be. Templates are too rigid, editing code can break things and the whole process just takes forever. That's why we love Knak here at Exit Five. Knak a no-code email platform that makes it easy to create on-brand, high-performing emails - without the bottlenecks.Frustrated by clunky email builders? You need Knak.Tired of ‘hoping' the email you sent looks good across all devices? Just test in Knak first.Big team making it hard to collaborate and get approvals? Definitely Knak.And the best part? Everything takes a fraction of the time.See Knak in action at knak.com/exit-five. Or just let them know you heard about Knak on Exit Five.***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

Ep. 337 There's a free tool that can help your brand show up more in AI-powered search results! Kipp dives into the new playbook for winning visibility in ChatGPT, Gemini, Perplexity, and the world of zero-click searches. Learn more on how to build a custom GPT to create AI-optimized content, the unique rules for ranking in AI search engines, and the essential best practices for dominating this next era of search. Mentions Want Kipp's Custom GPT for AI SEO? Get it here: https://clickhubspot.com/prn Perplexity https://www.perplexity.ai/ Claude https://claude.ai/ Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt We're creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you're facing at work or in your business. To understand your biggest challenges we've put together a survey and we'd love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research Resource [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip We're on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg  Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod  Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don't forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934   If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar   Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat  ‘Marketing Against The Grain' is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.

Ep. 336 Is your organic traffic vanishing into the AI ether? Kipp,  Kieran, and Aja Frost (Sr. Director of Global Growth at HubSpot), dive into the huge disruption AI-powered search is having on SEO, and exactly how brands should respond if they want to stay visible in a world dominated by LLMs and AI overviews. Learn more on what's changing in search, why LLM-driven AI search visitors are 4x more valuable than traditional search clicks, and get the playbook for optimizing your content and brand for AI-first discovery. Mentions Want to dominate search with AI? Get our guide here: https://clickhubspot.com/qcu Aja Frost https://x.com/ajavuu ChatGPT https://chatgpt.com/ Gemini https://gemini.google.com/ XFunnel https://www.xfunnel.ai/ Check out this episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPKqvn-QS50&t=1411s Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt We're creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you're facing at work or in your business. To understand your biggest challenges we've put together a survey and we'd love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research Resource [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip We're on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg  Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod  Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don't forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934   If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar   Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat  ‘Marketing Against The Grain' is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.

Ep. 335 Did you know that using the right AI prompt can turn a six-week creative project into a one-hour task? Kipp and guest Jason Keath, author of “The Case for More Bad Ideas”, dive into how marketers and creators can harness the power of AI prompts to dramatically speed up – and upgrade – the creative process. Learn more on building a repeatable creative process, using AI as your ultimate creative collaborator, and five actionable AI prompts that take you from brainstorming to killer campaigns (including ad copy, content ideas, and feedback you actually need). Turn bad ideas into breakthrough marketing, iterate better, and save serious time – all in this episode! Mentions Want Jason's Creativity Prompts? Get it here: https://clickhubspot.com/fmw Jason Keath https://jasonkeath.com/ The Case for More Bad Ideas: The Counterintuitive Guide to Creativity https://a.co/d/7q5eqZA Social Fresh https://socialfresh.com/ Claude https://claude.ai/ Gemini https://gemini.google.com/ Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt We're creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you're facing at work or in your business. To understand your biggest challenges we've put together a survey and we'd love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research Resource [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip We're on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg  Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod  Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don't forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934   If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar   Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat  ‘Marketing Against The Grain' is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.

Ep. 334 For just $20 a month, you can have your own “Harvard MBA analyst” working inside your business. Kipp and Kieran dive into the groundbreaking integration between HubSpot and OpenAI's ChatGPT deep research, sharing why this changes the game for marketers and sales pros. Learn more on how AI-powered deep research can instantly level up sales, marketing, and customer operations with actionable insights, why this new era gives every business the ability to fully personalize sales and marketing at scale, and the exact prompts and strategies you can use to work faster, smarter, and more effectively than ever before.. Mentions Want our prompts for deep research? Get it here: https://clickhubspot.com/wlc HubSpot https://www.hubspot.com/ ChatGPT https://chatgpt.com/ Open AI's Deep Research https://openai.com/index/introducing-deep-research/ Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt We're creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you're facing at work or in your business. To understand your biggest challenges we've put together a survey and we'd love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research Resource [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip We're on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg  Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod  Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don't forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934   If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar   Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat  ‘Marketing Against The Grain' is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.

Ep 333 In five years will the majority of social video will be AI-generated? Kipp, Kieran, and guest Gaurav Misra, of Captions, dive into the arrival of Mirage, a new AI video tool that turns 20 days of video production into 20 minutes of creative magic. Learn more on how AI-generated avatars will change the face of marketing for SMBs, why realism and acting are the key differentiators for engaging video, and practical ways you can use AI video for ads, product demos, social content, and SEO faster and at a fraction of the cost. Mentions Want to Create Content with AI? Get our checklist here: https://clickhubspot.com/wvu Gaurav Misra https://www.linkedin.com/in/gamisra1/ Captions https://www.captions.ai/ Mirage https://www.captions.ai/mirage ElevenLabs https://elevenlabs.io/ Check out this episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RA29LQvNkQ4&t=977s Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt We're creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you're facing at work or in your business. To understand your biggest challenges we've put together a survey and we'd love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research Resource [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip We're on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg  Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod  Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don't forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934   If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar   Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat  ‘Marketing Against The Grain' is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.

Ep 332 Is vibe marketing hype or the future of growth? Kipp and Kieran dive into what marketing success looks like in the AI era, joined by Morning Brew founder Alex Lieberman. Learn more on why the old playbooks of search and email are falling short, how ‘vibe marketing' is redefining how brands connect with audiences, and which skills and team structures actually matter for marketers looking to win in a world flooded with automation, AI, and lightning-fast creative execution. Mentions Want our ultimate guide to Vibe Marketing? Get it here: https://clickhubspot.com/ain Alex Lieberman https://www.linkedin.com/in/alex-lieberman/ Morning Brew https://www.morningbrew.com/ Claude https://claude.ai/ Zapier https://zapier.com/ beehiiv https://www.beehiiv.com/ Cursor https://www.cursor.com/ Check out this episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSXf6WvFZOw&t=1905s Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt We're creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you're facing at work or in your business. To understand your biggest challenges we've put together a survey and we'd love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research Resource [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip We're on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg  Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod  Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don't forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934   If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar   Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat  ‘Marketing Against The Grain' is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.

Ep. 331 “Claude's superpower is connecting with other applications”. Kipp and Kieran dive into the game-changing world of AI-powered marketing automation using Claude 4 Opus and app integrations.  Learn more on supercharging your marketing workflows with Zapier integrations, using AI to simulate real-time team feedback, and why the future of marketing ops lies in harnessing connected AI models. Mentions Want our complete guide to Claude? Get it for free here: https://clickhubspot.com/wkm Claude 4 https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-4 Claude's Opus 4 https://www.anthropic.com/claude/opus Zapier https://zapier.com/ Check out this episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-grLw2vMbI Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt We're creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you're facing at work or in your business. To understand your biggest challenges we've put together a survey and we'd love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research Resource [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip We're on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg  Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod  Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don't forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934   If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar   Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat  ‘Marketing Against The Grain' is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.

Ep. 330 What if you could create a world-class presentation with just two AI prompts? Kieran dives into how marketers, founders, and salespeople can harness the latest AI tools to instantly generate slide decks using proven expert frameworks. Learn more on selecting your ideal presentation type, using AI to tap into methodologies from the best in the business, and streamlining the entire process by plugging in brand style guides for pitch-perfect slides every single time. Mentions Want our best marketing prompts? Grab our Claude Hacks for Marketers here: https://clickhubspot.com/dnu Want Kieran's Presentation Prompt? Get it here: https://clickhubspot.com/wne Genspark https://www.genspark.ai/ Claude's Opus 4 https://www.anthropic.com/claude/opus Ramp https://ramp.com/intelligence Asana https://asana.com/ Check out this episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6EMrISDoUw Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt We're creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you're facing at work or in your business. To understand your biggest challenges we've put together a survey and we'd love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research Resource [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip We're on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg  Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod  Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don't forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934   If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar   Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat  ‘Marketing Against The Grain' is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.

Ep. 329 What if you could create a world-class, MBA-level marketing course on AI with a single prompt—and for free? Kieran dives into the exact prompt and process he used to build a $200k-value AI marketing curriculum in less time than a coffee break. Learn more on crafting custom AI courses tailored to your organization, building real-world hands-on AI lessons (not just theory), and unlocking insider methods to integrate AI across every facet of your marketing team. Mentions Want our best marketing prompts? Grab our Claude Hacks for Marketers here: https://clickhubspot.com/mdv ChatGPT o3 https://openai.com/index/introducing-o3-and-o4-mini/ ChatGPT-4 Turbo https://platform.openai.com/docs/models/gpt-4-turbo OpenAI Tasks https://community.openai.com/t/new-feature-tasks-beta-rolling-out/1091180 Check out this episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jr2KaXfi6Eo Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt We're creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you're facing at work or in your business. To understand your biggest challenges we've put together a survey and we'd love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research Resource [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip We're on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg  Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod  Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don't forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934   If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar   Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat  ‘Marketing Against The Grain' is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.

Ep. 328 Could an AI model be the world's best creative director? Kipp dives into how o3 can instantly generate ad campaigns that nail your brand style, why combining smart AI prompting with image generation gets unprecedented results, and what it means for the future of creative work. Learn more about seamlessly turning brand guides into campaigns, mastering AI prompt chains for marketing, and the top ways to use o3 as your high-skill creative partner. Mentions Want our Creative Director prompt? Get it here: https://clickhubspot.com/pwd OpenAI's o3 and o4 https://openai.com/index/introducing-o3-and-o4-mini/ ChatGPT https://chatgpt.com/ HubSpot Style Guide https://offers.hubspot.com/create-brand-style-guide We're creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you're facing at work or in your business. To understand your biggest challenges we've put together a survey and we'd love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research Resource [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip We're on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg  Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod  Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don't forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934   If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar   Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat  ‘Marketing Against The Grain' is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.

Ep. 327 Kieran dives into how marketers (and anyone) can use AI and just a few smart prompts to create a Prompt Engineer. Learn more on turning PDFs into practical marketing templates, building a custom AI prompt engineer for your specific business goals, and generating marketing tactics. Mentions Want our PDF-to-Prompt Engineer Prompt? Get it here: https://clickhubspot.com/msl Lee Boonstra's Prompt Engineering PDF https://www.gptaiflow.tech/assets/files/2025-01-18-pdf-1-TechAI-Goolge-whitepaper_Prompt%20Engineering_v4-af36dcc7a49bb7269a58b1c9b89a8ae1.pdf Claude https://claude.ai/ ChatGPT https://chatgpt.com/ OpenAI https://openai.com/ Check out this episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnTb99ESoNk&t=417s We're creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you're facing at work or in your business. To understand your biggest challenges we've put together a survey and we'd love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research Resource [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip We're on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg  Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod  Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don't forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934   If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar   Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat  ‘Marketing Against The Grain' is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.

Ep. 326 What if you could replace (or supercharge) your entire marketing team in under 45 minutes? Kipp and Kieran dive into how AI can build you an elite-level paid marketer, brand marketer, and product marketer, all powered by custom GPTs. Learn more on step-by-step instructions for creating expert marketing AI profiles, building custom GPTs that act as top-tier marketers, and how to leverage these virtual teammates to solve real business challenges—without hiring new humans. Mentions Get our Luke "The Paid Marketer" Master GPT here: https://clickhubspot.com/gjw ChatGPT https://chatgpt.com/ Claude https://claude.ai/ DALL·E https://openai.com/index/dall-e-3/ Brian Balfour https://brianbalfour.com/ Slack https://slack.com/ Check out this episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18ouksJBwT4&t=38s Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt We're creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you're facing at work or in your business. To understand your biggest challenges we've put together a survey and we'd love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research Resource [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip We're on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg  Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod  Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don't forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934   If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar   Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat  ‘Marketing Against The Grain' is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.

Ep. 325 What if you could be 10x more productive—just by letting AI organize your workday? Kipp dives into how to leverage new AI assistants to automate your workflows, optimize your meetings, and finally banish daily chaos. Learn more on integrating Claude and ChatGPT with your Google tools, using AI to map and improve your daily routines, and building a custom personal assistant agent that keeps you one step ahead. Mentions Want our favorite productivity prompt? Get it here: https://clickhubspot.com/dse Claude https://claude.ai/ ChatGPT https://chatgpt.com/ Zapier https://zapier.com/ Make https://www.make.com/en Check out this episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dD6ehvz5fDg&t=642s Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt We're creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you're facing at work or in your business. To understand your biggest challenges we've put together a survey and we'd love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research Resource [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip We're on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg  Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod  Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don't forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934   If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar   Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat  ‘Marketing Against The Grain' is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.

Episode SummaryTune in as host Paul Gibson sits down with Matthew Creswick, Chief Marketing Officer at Huble Digital, to explore the 95-5 marketing strategy. This insightful episode dives into balancing long-term brand building with capturing in-market demand, the evolving buyer landscape, the role of AI, and how intent data is changing the game for B2B marketers. Whether you're a seasoned pro or new to the field, this episode offers actionable advice and fresh perspectives on marketing strategy.About the GuestMatthew Creswick is an experienced marketing and business leader with over ten years of experience in the HubSpot industry. He has held senior roles, including Regional Managing Director, Chief Marketing Officer, and Chief Product Officer, and has worked across Europe and Southeast Asia.A certified HubSpot trainer with a Bachelor's degree in Business Management with Marketing, Matthew has been featured in Content Grip, the Huble Blog, and HubSpot.com. He is also a member of the CMO club in Exit Five and was recognized as an AMCHAM NextGen 2020 Leader.An active speaker and host, Matthew has presented at GWI Live and hosted multiple GWI virtual events.Beyond work, he enjoys football, golf, technology, and traveling the world.Website: https://huble.com/Connect with MatthewKey Takeaways- Understanding the 95-5 Framework: Focus on being memorable to the 95% not currently buying while effectively converting the 5% in-market.- Modern Buying Behaviors: Buyers prefer independence and typically resist traditional funnel tactics like forms and cold calls.- Power of Intent Data: Leveraging tools like Demandbase empowers marketers to identify accounts actively searching for solutions.- Building a Memorable Brand: Investing in brand equity ensures customers recall you when they're ready to buy.- AI's Role: AI enables scalable personalization, like crafting one-to-one tailored content and identifying actionable insights.Quotes"Brand isn't just for billion-dollar companies with Super Bowl ads. It's the asset that keeps your pipeline alive even when your ad budget dries up.”Recommended ResourceBooks: - Shoe Dog: A Memoir by the Creator of NIKE  by Phil Knight.- Purple Cow: Transform Your Business by Being Remarkable by Seth GodinNewsletters:- Exit Five  by Dave Gerhardt.- Newsletter by Kieran Flanagan from HubSpot.Shout-Outs- Gary Vaynerchuk - Chairman – VaynerX, CEO – VaynerMedia, Creator – VeeFriends- Seth Godin - Founding editor of the Carbon Almanac, blogger and entrepreneur.- Dharmesh Shah - UK & Ireland Country Director, Present Technologies- Kieran Flanagan - Marketing (CMO, SVP) | All things AI | Sequoia Scout | Advisor- Dave Gerhardt - Founder, Exit Five

Ep. 324 Did you know you can create a high-quality, on-brand pitch deck for your product in under 30 minutes—with almost no design work? Kipp dives into how to instantly create standout pitch decks using AI, blending style, content, and speed like never before. Learn more on why most slide deck generators still suck, how to use tools like Genspark and ChatGPT to nail your brand's look, and pro tips for turning AI-generated outlines into sales-ready presentations—all without spending hours in PowerPoint. Mentions Want to automate your marketing with AI? Get our playbook here: https://clickhubspot.com/cbr Genspark https://www.genspark.ai/ ChatGPT https://chatgpt.com/ Claude https://claude.ai/ Gemini https://gemini.google.com/ DeepSeek https://www.deepseek.com/ Check out this episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoSFVjDsNvU Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt We're creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you're facing at work or in your business. To understand your biggest challenges we've put together a survey and we'd love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research Resource [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip We're on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg  Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod  Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don't forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934   If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar   Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat  ‘Marketing Against The Grain' is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by HubSpot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.

Ross sits down with Kieran Flanagan, SVP of Marketing at HubSpot, for a deep dive into AI's impact on SEO, content strategy in a post-search world, and the real story behind the "HubSpot traffic drop. Kieran breaks down why conversions—not clicks—have always been at the core of HubSpot's strategy, how AI is reshaping team structures, and why co-citation and brand authority are the future of SEO. They also cover LLM optimization, the importance of tools in training sets, and what separates influential content from purely informational posts. Plus: Why lazy AI marketers will fail, what The Hustle acquisition means for HubSpot's media strategy, and how to build long-term influence through POV-driven content. Chapters: 00:00 – Intro: Did HubSpot Really Lose 80% of Blog Traffic? 02:00 – HubSpot's Real Metrics: LTV: CAC, Not Just Clicks 04:00 – Google's AI & the New Era of Search Disruption 06:00 – What Content Will Be Cannibalized by LLMs 08:00 – Influence or Information: Winning with Point of View 10:00 – From Links to Mentions: Co-Citation SEO Strategy 12:00 – Optimizing for LLMs: Citations, Not Just SERPs 14:00 – AI, Brand Authority & The Repetitional Layer 17:00 – Tools, Training Sets, and the Battle of Ideas 20:00 – Inside HubSpot's Media Play: The Hustle, Podcasts & Creators 24:00 – Why Interactive Tools Still Work (If Done Right) 26:00 – Gated Content & Moving the “Free Line” 28:00 – New Team Models: Journalists, Generalists, and Engineers 32:00 – Kieran's Leadership Framework: Manage Problems, Not People 35:00 – Contrarian Bet: Buying The Hustle & Building Influence 38:00 – Lessons from Zapier vs HubSpot's Go-To-Market 40:00 – Why Lazy AI Marketers Will Fail 42:00 – Is M&A Still a Growth Lever for HubSpot? 44:00 – Final Thoughts & Where to Follow Kieran --- Show Links Did Hubspot Lose 80% of Blog Traffic? [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBHoJMOkL6Y](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBHoJMOkL6Y) Contrast Ratio by Siege Media [https://www.siegemedia.com/contrast-ratio](https://www.siegemedia.com/contrast-ratio) Interactive Content Data Use [https://www.siegemedia.com/strategy/content-marketing-trends#interactive-content](https://www.siegemedia.com/strategy/content-marketing-trends#interactive-content) The Hustle by HubSpot [https://blog.hubspot.com/the-hustle/page/1](https://blog.hubspot.com/the-hustle/page/1) Kieran Flanagan on LinkedIn [https://linkedin.com/in/kieranjflanagan](https://linkedin.com/in/kieranjflanagan)

Ep. 323 Did you know you can build a custom AI-powered marketing grader for any tactic in just minutes? Kieran dives into the exact process he uses to instantly evaluate and improve marketing work with AI—from legendary copywriting principles to advanced product positioning feedback. Learn how to swipe timeless tactics, engineer prompts for your unique needs, and create a universal marketing grader to upgrade your product launches, landing pages, paid campaigns, and more. Mentions Marketing tactics falling flat? Get 1,000+ AI Marketing Prompts: https://clickhubspot.com/wtc David Ogilvy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Ogilvy_(businessman) HubSpot's CRM https://www.hubspot.com/products/crm Pipedrive https://www.pipedrive.com/ Gong https://www.gong.io/ Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt We're creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you're facing at work or in your business. To understand your biggest challenges we've put together a survey and we'd love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research Resource [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip We're on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg  Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod  Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don't forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934   If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar   Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat  ‘Marketing Against The Grain' is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.

Ep. 322 What if you could steal the AI prompt library of any elite marketer—or even Albert Einstein or Elon Musk? Kieran dives into how leveraging AI and prompt engineering can help marketers automate, scale, and transform their work in minutes. Learn more on building advanced prompt libraries for every marketing discipline, supercharging your teams with insights from legendary strategists, and using cutting-edge tools to unlock genius-level playbooks—no matter your level or background. Mentions Want Kipp & Kieran's AI Prompt Library? Get it here: ⁠https://clickhubspot.com/wgu⁠ Lenny's Newsletter https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/ “Obsessed: Building a Brand People Love from Day One” https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/609626/obsessed-by-emily-heyward/ “How Brands Grow: What Marketers Don't Know” https://www.amazon.com/How-Brands-Grow-What-Marketers/dp/0195573560 Famous Prompts https://famousprompts.com/ Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt We're creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you're facing at work or in your business. To understand your biggest challenges we've put together a survey and we'd love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research Resource [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip We're on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg  Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod  Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don't forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934   If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar   Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat  ‘Marketing Against The Grain' is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.

Want Kipp's Prompts mentioned in this episode? Get them here: https://clickhubspot.com/pmr Ep. 320 Did you know OpenAI's new o3 model can catch subtle leadership habits you don't even realize you have? Kipp dives into how o3 is changing the AI landscape for marketers, making it his favorite LLM to date. Learn more as Kipp covers next-level AI use cases for marketers, how o3 outperforms in research and creative projects, and ways to leverage o3 as your smartest thought partner yet. Mentions OpenAI o3 and o4 https://openai.com/index/introducing-o3-and-o4-mini/ ChatGPT Pro https://openai.com/index/introducing-chatgpt-pro/ Gemini 2.5 https://gemini.google.com/ “Range” by David Epstein https://davidepstein.com/range/ Kipp's prompts for o3 mentioned in this episode: https://clickhubspot.com/pmr Check out this episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzeqQPTxR78&t=921s We're creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you're facing at work or in your business. To understand your biggest challenges we've put together a survey and we'd love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar   Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat  Marketing Against The Grain is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.

Ep. 319 How can you go from novice to expert in AI prompt engineering in just 30 minutes? Kipp and Kieran unpack the secrets to becoming an adept prompt engineer and leverage AI to its fullest potential. Learn more on mastering the essential components of an effective prompt, utilizing custom GPTs for tailored outputs, and transforming marketing tactics with deep research and automation. Mentions Want Kipp's prompt? Get our AI Prompts here: https://clickhubspot.com/sct Greg Brockman https://www.linkedin.com/in/thegdb Jasper https://www.jasper.ai/ Gemini https://gemini.google.com/ Claude https://claude.ai/ Check out this episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srUzcTvA-QQ&t=523s We're creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you're facing at work or in your business. To understand your biggest challenges we've put together a survey and we'd love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research We're on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg  Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod  Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don't forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934   If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar   Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat  ‘Marketing Against The Grain' is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.

Ep. 318 What does it take to leverage LinkedIn to its fullest potential? Kipp and Hala Taha (CEO & Founder YAP Media) reveal a four-step content formula to go viral on LinkedIn and break through the noise. Learn more on maximizing your reach by understanding LinkedIn's unique algorithm, mastering the art of engagement, and creating content that aligns with LinkedIn's editorial agenda. Mentions Want the formula to go viral on LinkedIn? Get the database here: https://clickhubspot.com/hla Hala Taha https://www.linkedin.com/in/htaha/ Gary Vee https://garyvaynerchuk.com/ Alex Hormozi https://www.acquisition.com/bio-alex Leila Hormozi https://www.acquisition.com/bio-leila-2 Slack https://slack.com/ We're creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you're facing at work or in your business. To understand your biggest challenges we've put together a survey and we'd love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research We're on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg  Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod  Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don't forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934   If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar   Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat  ‘Marketing Against The Grain' is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.

Ep. 317 Can you build the world's best landing page with AI in under an hour? Kipp and Kieran dive into the innovative process of using AI to construct top-tier landing pages swiftly and efficiently. Learn more about leveraging deep research to create comprehensive style guides, applying Gemini 2.5 Pro for strategic marketing insights, and enhancing designs with both Claude and Lovable for optimal results. Mentions Get Kipp's AI Prompt Playbook to Create High-Converting Landing Pages in < 60 Minutes: https://clickhubspot.com/alp Gemini 2.5 Pro https://deepmind.google/technologies/gemini/pro/ Lovable https://lovable.dev/ GPT-4 https://openai.com/index/gpt-4/ Claude https://claude.ai/ We're creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you're facing at work or in your business. To understand your biggest challenges we've put together a survey and we'd love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research We're on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg  Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod  Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don't forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934   If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar   Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat  ‘Marketing Against The Grain' is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.

Ep. 316 Why spend $25K on marketing strategies when you can get the same value for free? Kipp dives into how Google Gemini 2.5 can revolutionize your marketing strategy without costing a dime. Learn more on using deep research to write effective prompts, creating comprehensive marketing campaigns, and utilizing AI models to build out detailed marketing assets with ease. Mentions Curious how we used AI to skyrocket our conversion by 82%? Find out here: https://clickhubspot.com/vcr Want Kipp's prompt? Get it here: https://clickhubspot.com/swv Gemini 2.5 https://gemini.google.com/ OpenAI 4o Image Generation https://openai.com/index/introducing-4o-image-generation/ ChatGPT https://chatgpt.com/ Check out this episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49uoV2k6btA&t=4s We're creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you're facing at work or in your business. To understand your biggest challenges we've put together a survey and we'd love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research Resource [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip We're on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg  Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod  Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don't forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934   If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar   Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat  ‘Marketing Against The Grain' is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.

Ep. 315 The Internet is melting as ChatGPT's brand new image generation feature rapidly gains users! Kipp and Kieran dive into how you can leverage this groundbreaking tool to transform your marketing efforts. Learn more on creating endless variations of marketing content with AI, crafting stunning visuals using deep research and templated prompts, and redefining traditional creative processes with innovative AI solutions. Mentions Get Kipp's Prompt here: https://clickhubspot.com/prm Get our AI Content Creation Checklist: https://clickhubspot.com/cct ChatGPT 4o https://openai.com/index/hello-gpt-4o/ Deepmind https://deepmind.google/ David Ogilvy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Ogilvy_(businessman) We're creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you're facing at work or in your business. To understand your biggest challenges we've put together a survey and we'd love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research Resource [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip We're on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg  Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod  Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don't forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934   If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar   Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat  ‘Marketing Against The Grain' is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.

Ep. 314 What if you could create your very own personalized call-in podcast with a simple AI hack? Kipp and Kieran dive into this game-changing approach to using AI tools to accelerate learning and produce tailored content. Learn more on harnessing Deep Research for comprehensive information, structuring prompts for maximum effectiveness, and setting up a unique two-way conversational podcast to transform your listening experience and boost your expertise. Mentions Get our guide to NotebookLM here: https://clickhubspot.com/uco Deep Research https://openai.com/index/introducing-deep-research/ NotebookLM https://notebooklm.google/ We're creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you're facing at work or in your business. To understand your biggest challenges we've put together a survey and we'd love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research Resource [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip We're on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg  Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod  Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don't forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934   If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar   Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat  ‘Marketing Against The Grain' is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.

Ep. 313 Are you maximizing the impact of AI in the simplest ways possible? Kipp and Kieran dive into how to set up and utilize a Project AI Assistant using tools like ChatGPT, Claude, or Gemini Gems. Learn more on maximizing the use of structured and unstructured data, creating effective templates for frequent tasks, and setting clear instructions for your AI Assistant to enhance productivity. Mentions ChatGPT https://openai.com/index/chatgpt/ Claude https://claude.ai/ Gemini Gems https://gemini.google.com/gems/create Loom https://www.loom.com/ Checkout this episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lx9zKuVL4k0&t=1s Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt We're creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you're facing at work or in your business. To understand your biggest challenges we've put together a survey and we'd love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research Resource [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip We're on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg  Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod  Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don't forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934   If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar   Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat  ‘Marketing Against The Grain' is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.

Ep. 312 Is 2025 the year where a decade's worth of progress will unfold? Kipp and Kieran dive into the rapid advancements in AI, focusing on why Google's DeepMind is poised to lead the charge with Logan Kilpatrick (Google DeepMind). Learn more on how AI's swift evolution is transforming business expectations, the unique advantages Google holds with its breadth of tools, and key AI use cases that marketers, founders, and creators can start applying today. Mentions Logan Kilpatrick https://www.linkedin.com/in/logankilpatrick Google DeepMind https://deepmind.google/ GPT-4 https://openai.com/index/gpt-4/ Gemini https://gemini.google.com/ Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt We're creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you're facing at work or in your business. To understand your biggest challenges we've put together a survey and we'd love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research Resource [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip We're on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg  Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod  Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don't forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934   If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar   Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat  ‘Marketing Against The Grain' is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.

Ep. 310 Can you imagine editing any image using just text prompts? Kipp dives into Google's groundbreaking AI updates and the future of image editing with Gemini 2.0 Flash. Learn more about the seamless blending of text and image editing, innovative use cases like creating the perfect passport photo, and practical tips on how marketers can save time with this new tool. Mentions Gemini 2.0 Flash https://deepmind.google/technologies/gemini/flash/ Photoshop https://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop.html  Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt We're creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you're facing at work or in your business. To understand your biggest challenges we've put together a survey and we'd love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research Resource [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip We're on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg  Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod  Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don't forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934   If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar   Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat  ‘Marketing Against The Grain' is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.

Ep. 309 Are you ready for agents like Manus AI to revolutionize entire workforces by cutting hours down to minutes? Kipp and Kieran dive into the groundbreaking potential of the first true autonomous agent, Manus AI, and how it can perform complex tasks that once required human teams. Learn more about how Manus AI is transforming roles by building effective BDR use cases, rewriting product pages, and managing multiple social media accounts simultaneously. Mentions Manus AI https://manus.im/ Claude https://claude.ai/ Cursor https://www.cursor.com/ Lovable https://lovable.dev/ Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt We're creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you're facing at work or in your business. To understand your biggest challenges we've put together a survey and we'd love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research Resource [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip We're on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg  Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod  Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don't forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934   If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar   Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat  ‘Marketing Against The Grain' is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.

Ep. 307 Are we on the brink of a future where founders operate successful agencies with no human employees? Get Barbera's Prompts https://offers.hubspot.com/full-stack-ai-marketing Kipp and Kieran dive into the innovative world of Barbara Jovanovic (Startup Cookie) and her AI-powered approach to running a six-figure content marketing agency. Learn more about optimizing AI tools for business efficiency, crafting compelling content without a human team, and scaling operations with cutting-edge technology. Mentions Barbara Jovanovic https://www.linkedin.com/in/barbara-jovanovic-293b1a108/ Startup Cookie https://www.startupcookie.com/ ChatGPT https://chatgpt.com/ OpenAI https://openai.com/ Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt We're creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you're facing at work or in your business. To understand your biggest challenges we've put together a survey and we'd love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research Resource [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip We're on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg  Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod  Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don't forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934   If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar   Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat  ‘Marketing Against The Grain' is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.

Ep. 305 What makes Claude 3.7 Sonnet the best coding model in the world? Kipp and Kieran dive into this groundbreaking AI update and its impact on developers everywhere. Learn more on Discover how Claude 3.7 Sonnet enhances reasoning and coding capabilities, why it's revered by coders despite benchmarks, and how it redefines software development for non-coders. Mentions Claude 3.7 Sonnet https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-3-7-sonnet Grok https://x.ai/ Cursor https://www.cursor.com/ Mckay Wrigley's tweet: https://x.com/mckaywrigley/status/1894123739178270774 Gemini https://gemini.google.com/ Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt We're creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you're facing at work or in your business. To understand your biggest challenges we've put together a survey and we'd love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research Resource [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip We're on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg  Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod  Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don't forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934   If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar   Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat  ‘Marketing Against The Grain' is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.

Ep. 304 How are billion-dollar companies like Kraken integrating AI into their marketing strategies to pave the way for future growth? Kipp and Kieran delve into the transformative role of AI in marketing strategies at trailblazing companies, featuring insights from Kraken's CMO, Mayur Gupta. Learn more on how AI is being leveraged for creative innovations, the debate between using SaaS platforms vs. custom solutions, and the operational best practices companies can adopt for effective AI usage in their growth efforts. Mentions Mayur Gupta https://www.linkedin.com/in/mayurgupta77/ Kraken https://www.kraken.com/ DeepSeek https://www.deepseek.com/ Claude https://claude.ai/ Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt We're creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you're facing at work or in your business. To understand your biggest challenges we've put together a survey and we'd love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research Resource [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip We're on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg  Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod  Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don't forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934   If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar   Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat  ‘Marketing Against The Grain' is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.

Ep. 303 What if everyone had access to human-level intelligence for free? Kipp and Kieran dive into the groundbreaking implications of Grok 3's launch and its impact on the AI landscape. Learn more about why Grok 3 is outperforming AI giants like OpenAI and Google, how Elon Musk's access to vast resources gives him a competitive edge in this AI war, and the profound implications of democratizing intelligence in both consumer and enterprise sectors. Mentions Grok https://x.ai/grok Gemini https://gemini.google.com/ Nvidia https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/ DeepSeek https://www.deepseek.com/ Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt We're creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you're facing at work or in your business. To understand your biggest challenges we've put together a survey and we'd love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research Resource [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip We're on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg  Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod  Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don't forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934   If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar   Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat  ‘Marketing Against The Grain' is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.

Ep. 302 Can a small European startup outperform OpenAI? Kipp and Kieran dive into how Convergence AI's Proxy could change the landscape for AI browser agents. Learn more on the potential impact of Proxy being offered for free, the role of browser-based agents in unlocking new use cases, and whether Proxy's competitive edge is enough to rival OpenAI's Operator. Mentions Convergence AI https://convergence.ai/ DeepSeeek https://www.deepseek.com/ Coinbase https://www.coinbase.com/ Ramp https://ramp.com/ Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt Check out this episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLGN-0kpbs4&sttick=0 We're creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you're facing at work or in your business. To understand your biggest challenges we've put together a survey and we'd love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research Resource [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip We're on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg  Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod  Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don't forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934   If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar   Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat  ‘Marketing Against The Grain' is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.

Ep. 301 Is 2025 truly the year of AI agents taking over the workforce? Kipp, Kieran, and guest João Moura (founder of CrewAI) dive into the evolution of AI agents, exploring their potential impacts on business operations and roles. Learn more about what truly defines an AI agent and their distinguishing components, how businesses are successfully integrating agents to enhance productivity, and the potential pitfalls and opportunities that lie ahead in leveraging AI agents to shape the future workforce. Mentions João Moura https://x.com/joaomdmoura CrewAI https://www.crewai.com/ Anthropic https://www.anthropic.com/ OpenAI Operator https://openai.com/index/introducing-operator/ PwC https://www.pwc.com/ Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt We're creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you're facing at work or in your business. To understand your biggest challenges we've put together a survey and we'd love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research Resource [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip We're on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg  Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod  Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don't forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934   If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar   Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat  ‘Marketing Against The Grain' is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.

Can technology replace a $10,000 consultant? Kipp dives into how you can harness AI tools like OpenAI's Operator to revolutionize your website analysis, saving you time and money. Learn more about leveraging LLMs like Qwen 2.5 for user experience conversion rate testing, maximizing the $200/month investment into OpenAI's Pro tier for advanced model access, and scaling website feedback and testing to outpace the competition. Mentions OpenAI's Operator https://openai.com/index/introducing-operator/ Qwen 2.5 https://qwen-ai.com/ HubSpot CRM https://www.hubspot.com/products/crm Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt We're creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you're facing at work or in your business. To understand your biggest challenges we've put together a survey and we'd love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research Resource [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip We're on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg  Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod  Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don't forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934   If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar   Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat  ‘Marketing Against The Grain' is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.

Ep. 298 Can an AI agent revolutionize deep research in marketing? Kipp dives into OpenAI's groundbreaking launch of their new Deep Research product and compare it with Google Gemini's offering. Learn more about how OpenAI's Deep Research can tackle complex research tasks with unparalleled depth, how the competition with Google Gemini stacks up in terms of integration and data sourcing, and why harnessing AI for research could be a game-changer for marketers. Mentions OpenAi Deep Research https://openai.com/index/introducing-deep-research/ Sam Altman https://blog.samaltman.com/ OpenAI o3-mini https://openai.com/index/openai-o3-mini/ Dan Shipper https://every.to/@danshipper Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt We're creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you're facing at work or in your business. To understand your biggest challenges we've put together a survey and we'd love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research Resource [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip We're on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg  Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod  Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don't forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934   If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar   Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat  ‘Marketing Against The Grain' is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.

Ep. 297 Why did HubSpot's blog traffic allegedly plummeted? Kipp and Kieran dive into the viral controversy and break down what actually happened with HubSpot's blog traffic decline, shedding light on the bigger picture. Learn more on the unexpected lessons for marketers from HubSpot's own journey, the importance of diversified content strategy, and how AI and search engine behaviors are reshaping the marketing landscape. Mentions HubSpot Academy https://academy.hubspot.com/ The Hustle https://thehustle.co/ DeepSeek https://www.deepseek.com/ Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt We're creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you're facing at work or in your business. To understand your biggest challenges we've put together a survey and we'd love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research Resource [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip We're on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg  Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod  Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don't forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934   If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar   Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat  ‘Marketing Against The Grain' is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.

Ep. 296 What does it take to effectively leverage advanced AI models for your business needs? Kipp, Kieran, and guest Sully Omar (CEO of Cognosys) dive into a comparison of leading AI models, Claude versus GPT, and give a live demo of the powerful O1 Pro. Learn more on the evolving landscape of autonomous agents and their practical applications, the nuanced differences between reasoning models and standard AI, and how to make these advanced tools work for your business. Mentions Sully Omar https://x.com/SullyOmarr Cognosys https://www.cognosys.ai/ Autogrid https://www.linkedin.com/company/autogrid-systems/ OpenAI o1 https://openai.com/o1/ Claude https://claude.ai/ Gemini https://gemini.google.com/ Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt We're creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you're facing at work or in your business. To understand your biggest challenges we've put together a survey and we'd love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research Resource [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip We're on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg  Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod  Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don't forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934   If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar   Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat  ‘Marketing Against The Grain' is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.

Is open source AI the future of marketing intelligence? Kieran dives into one of the most surprising AI launches of the past year and its implications for marketers everywhere. Learn more about how DeepSeek-R1, an open-source AI model from China, rivals the major players in intelligence and reasoning, the game-changing affordability of this new model, and how to leverage it to supercharge your marketing campaigns with real-world tactics and insights. Mentions DeepSeek https://www.deepseek.com/ OpenAI https://openai.com/ Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt We're creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you're facing at work or in your business. To understand your biggest challenges we've put together a survey and we'd love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research Resource [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip We're on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg  Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod  Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don't forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934   If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar   Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat  ‘Marketing Against The Grain' is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.

Ep. 294 How can AI replace an $84 billion industry with just one prompt? Kipp and Kieran dive into how AI is revolutionizing market research, featuring insights from expert Mike Taylor (https://brightpool.dev/). Learn more about the amazing potential of AI in market research, the magic behind prompt engineering, and how you can leverage these tools to save time and money in your business.  Mentions Mike Taylor https://x.com/hammer_mt “Prompt Engineering for Generative AI: Future-Proof Inputs for Reliable AI Outputs” https://amazon.com/Prompt-Engineering-Generative-AI-Future-Proof/dp/109815343X/ O'Reilly Media https://www.oreilly.com/ Grain https://grain.com/ Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt We're creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you're facing at work or in your business. To understand your biggest challenges we've put together a survey and we'd love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research Resource [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip We're on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg  Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod  Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don't forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934   If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar   Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat  ‘Marketing Against The Grain' is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.