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Today on the Community podcast, Kristina is joined by Britt Holmes, founder of Merit Media and paid ads expert, to break down how small business owners can use paid ads to create more consistent leads, increase visibility, and grow their business.Britt shares what business owners need to know before investing in Google Ads, Meta Ads, or LinkedIn Ads, and why a strong ad strategy is less about spending more and more about spending strategically.Tune in to hear:When your business is actually ready to start running paid ads.How to choose between Google Ads, Meta Ads, and LinkedIn Ads.The biggest mistakes business owners make when trying to DIY their ads.Why tracking and actively managing your ads are essential for better results.How paid ads can help reduce the feast-and-famine cycle in business.Why your website, messaging, and social media need to work together with your ad strategy.Britt also shares why you don't need a massive budget to get started, why slower seasons can actually be a smart time to advertise, and why boosting an Instagram post is very different from creating a strategic paid ads campaign.If paid ads have always felt overwhelming, this episode will help make small business advertising feel more accessible and give you a clearer understanding of how paid ads can support long-term business growth. Tune in now to learn how to approach your ad strategy with more confidence!Connect with Britt Holmes:WebsiteFollow Merit Media on InstagramFollow Britt on InstagramLinkedInMentioned in this Episode:Take our What's Your Social Media Personality Quiz: https://www.thesocialsnippet.com/quizSend me a text!PodMatchPodMatch Automatically Matches Ideal Podcast Guests and Hosts For InterviewsSupport the showFor Your Information:• Host your podcast on Buzzsprout!•Join The High Vibe Women Online Community!• Join our favourite scheduling platform Later• FLODESK Affiliate Code | 25% off your first year!• Connect with Kristina  Don't forget to come say hi to us on Instagram @thesocialsnippet, join the Weekly Snippet or follow us on any social media platform! Website . Instagram . Facebook . Linkedin

Facebook Ads for painting contractors can generate consistent painting leads — but only if your ads, marketing message, and follow-up system are built correctly.In this episode of the Contractor Secrets Podcast, Tanner Mullen audits Axel's Facebook Ads and explains why his painting business marketing is getting clicks but failing to turn those clicks into painting leads and booked jobs.Axel spent roughly $350–$400 on Facebook Ads and generated around 700 clicks, but received almost no meaningful leads. Tanner pulls up the actual ad and breaks down exactly what's going wrong.In this episode, you'll learn:• How to run better Facebook Ads for painting contractors• Why painting ads get clicks but no leads• How to generate more painting leads• Why your marketing message must match your ideal customer• How authentic video builds trust with homeowners• Why AI-generated ads can hurt your marketing• How speed-to-lead affects conversions• How a CRM helps turn leads into booked estimates• How to budget for contractor marketing• When to DIY marketing vs. hire a marketing agencyTanner explains that successful painting contractor marketing isn't just about getting clicks. Your ads need to attract the right homeowners, build trust, generate qualified painting leads, and have a system behind them that follows up immediately.If you're a painting contractor trying to grow your painting business with Facebook Ads, Meta Ads, lead generation, contractor marketing, or digital marketing, this episode will show you what to fix.VIDEO CHAPTERS:00:00 Why Painting Ads Fail01:16 Meet Axel & His Painting Business02:17 Building the Foundation04:34 Axel's Facebook Ads Strategy05:03 700 Clicks, Almost No Leads06:17 Tanner Audits the Facebook Ad07:09 What's Wrong With the Ad?09:12 The Cost of DIY Marketing10:05 How to Build Trust With Facebook Ads11:31 Stop Trying to Be Perfect on Camera14:37 Should Contractors Hire a Marketing Agency?15:55 Why Speed-to-Lead Matters17:47 Investing in Your Painting Business19:43 Why You Need a Marketing System21:12 CRM & Follow-Up Systems22:28 Building a Better Estimating System25:12 Why Consistent Marketing Matters27:32 How Much Should You Spend on Marketing?31:42 Systems That Free the Business OwnerCoaching Session Signup: https://calendly.com/dripjobs/breakthroughPurchase the 31 Days of Value and build an EMPIRE: https://www.amazon.com/31-Days-Value-home-service-businesses/dp/B0FQSH32X7Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2v0D0SNSBofqJJE6zApEE1DripJobs Demo: https://calendly.com/dripjobsteam/dripjobsdemoGusto: https://gusto.com/i/tanner269OpenPhone: https://openph.one/referral/8Kc17aqFacebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/173750747824373/?ref=shareFollow me on Instagram: http://Instagram.com/officialtannermullen#roofing #roofingbusiness #contractormarketing #localseo #roofingcontractor #homeservices #businessgrowth

Is your Meta ad account stuck at the same growth level? We can run a growth diagnostic and recommend the right strategy to scale your business.Talk to us at https://www.tiereleven.com/apply Posting more content doesn't automatically mean better results. One of our favorite clients learned that the hard way after posting 156% subscriber growth in under six months. Such growth never sustains on autopilot, and figuring out why is what separates a good agency from a great one.In this episode, Tier 11 growth strategist Thomas Mcnaught joins me to unpack the full growth diagnostic we ran for the client. We cleaned up messy attribution data, discovered 10-minute video ads with a 0.01% completion rate, and made the counterintuitive call to kill state-specific targeting entirely, letting Meta's algorithm do what it does best.The result? A 20-25% CAC reduction in one week, with more upside coming. We get into creative diversification, campaign consolidation, and why Google and Meta aren't competing but assisting each other. Listen in and then review your ad account for the same red flags. In This Episode:- The importance of building a true source of truth across platforms- Optimizing Meta Ads using better campaign structure and data- Why long-form video ads may be hurting creative performance- How creative diversification improves Meta Ads results- The dangers of overly specific state and location-based targeting- Optimizing customer acquisition cost instead of vanity metrics- How Meta, Google Ads, YouTube, and organic traffic work together- Using media efficiency ratio and attribution tools to measure growthMentioned in the Episode: Part 1 of the Case Study: https://perpetualtraffic.com/podcast/episode-792-156-more-app-subscribers-in-six-months-heres-how-we-did-it/ Tier 11's Data Suite: https://www.tiereleven.com/what-we-do/data-suiteDownload Your Copy of Tier 11's Marketing Performance Indicators (MPIs): https://www.tiereleven.com/marketing-performance-indicators Join Ralph Burns and John Moran every Friday for The Ad Lab Live: https://www.youtube.com/@Tier11/streams Wicked Reports: https://www.wickedreports.com/ Listen to This Episode on Your Favorite Podcast Channel:Follow and listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/perpetual-traffic/id1022441491 Follow and listen on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/59lhtIWHw1XXsRmT5HBAuK Subscribe and watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@perpetual_traffic?sub_confirmation=1We Appreciate Your Support!Visit our website: https://perpetualtraffic.com/ Connect with Thomas McnaughtWebsite: https://www.thomasmcnaught.com/ Connect with Ralph Burns: LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ralphburns Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/ralphhburns/ Hire Tier11 - https://www.tiereleven.com/apply-now Mentioned in this episode:https://perpetualtraffic.com/advertise-with-us/

We've got another round of our popular Ask Me Anything session with Steve P. Young!Steve answers your questions on ASO, ASA, Meta Ads, monetization, growth, and scaling your app business.Whether you're launching your first app, trying to increase revenue, or looking for better acquisition strategies, this is your chance to get answers directly from Steve.Feel free to bring forward any other personal or entrepreneurial questions you've been pondering - no topic is off-limits!

Krista Karpan is the CEO and Co-Founder of Milked Media, a performance marketing agency that has spent nearly a decade helping ecommerce brands scale through paid media, creative strategy, and retention marketing.This episode tackles a shift few marketers have caught up to. Interest based targeting on Meta no longer works, and creative has become the real lever for reaching the right audience.Krista walks through how her agency structures Meta and Google campaigns for new and scaling brands, the metrics that actually indicate a winning ad, and why static images still outperform video in categories like fashion. She also breaks down attribution overlap, marketing efficiency ratio, and the supporting systems, from social proof to email nurture, that determine whether paid traffic ever converts.For founders and marketers relying on ad platforms to carry the business alone, this conversation is a reset on what actually drives profitable growth in 2026.Website: https://expanio.com/Podcast website: https://expanio.com/commerce-untold-podcast/Eitan Koter's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eitankoter/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@CommerceUntoldGuest: Krista Karpan, CEO and Co-Founder, Milked MediaKrista Karpan's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristakarpan/Milked Media: https://www.milkedmedia.com/Key Takeaways: • Interest-based targeting on Meta no longer works; creative and messaging now determine who sees your ad • Static images still outperform video in categories like fashion, despite the industry's obsession with video content • A brand's Facebook and Instagram profile functions as a landing page and can cost a sale before a visitor ever reaches the website • Marketing efficiency ratio (spend divided by revenue) cuts through inflated platform-reported attribution better than raw ROAS • New ecommerce brands should structure nearly all campaigns around a sales objective rather than brand awareness until spend scales significantly • Meta ads are one piece of an ecosystem; without organic social, email marketing, and a conversion-ready site, ad spend underperformsChapters:[00:30] The Origin of the Milked Media Name[02:14] A Personal Story: Business Owner and Mom of Four[03:31] Why Interest-Based Targeting Stopped Working[06:18] The Metrics That Signal a Winning Ad[09:39] Static Images vs Video: What Actually Performs[11:02] Meta's Partnership Ads and the UGC Marketplace[12:30] Diagnosing Creative vs Targeting vs Site Issues[15:35] Structuring Campaigns for a New Product Launch[18:06] Why Meta Ads Alone Are Not the Full Solution[21:40] Realistic Conversion Rate Benchmarks for 2026[22:15] Winning Meta's Performance Campaign of the Year[24:48] Solving the Attribution Puzzle Across Platforms[28:05] Milked Media's Ideal Client and Ad Spend Minimums[30:19] Where to Find Krista and Milked Media

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Introduction (00:23): Host Chris Cesar welcomes listeners back to Getting Granular for the 50th episode of the podcast and introduces Noah Hardy, one of Granular's newest team members. Noah shares a bit about himself, including his nearly decade-long career in digital marketing, love of travel, video games, cooking, and life in Grafton, Wisconsin. Getting an Early Start in Digital Marketing (03:58): Noah traces his PPC origins back to college, when he joined Milwaukee startup GenoPalate at just 19 years old. Working across everything from email and SEO to paid media and even supply chain gave him broad experience, but the speed and measurable results of PPC quickly stood out. Why Paid Media Stuck (06:53): The ability to make a change and see tangible business results drew Noah toward paid media. He reflects on how PPC has evolved over the past decade, from granular keyword structures and easier tracking to increasingly automated platforms driven by algorithms, creative, and conversion signals. Finding His Strength in Paid Social (09:17): Noah discusses his passion for paid social, particularly creative strategy and testing. He explains how developing new messages, formats, and creative concepts can produce significant growth when marketers find ideas that truly resonate with an audience. From VaynerMedia to Granular (10:35): After working with e-commerce brands and major clients like Bose, Noah eventually found his way to Granular. He shares why the agency's collaborative culture, experienced team, strong client relationships, and return to in-person work have made Granular stand out from previous roles. Building Trust With Clients (14:32): Noah explains that strong client relationships start with understanding the business behind the campaigns. From margins and profitability to growth goals and individual communication needs, he believes good PPC management requires understanding both the numbers and the people behind them. Reporting Beyond Surface-Level Results (17:48): When evaluating campaign performance, Noah focuses on incrementality, profitability, testing, and context rather than simply reporting that revenue went up or down. He discusses using experiments, historical comparisons, and seasonality to understand what actually drove performance and what marketers should do next. AI and the Future of PPC (19:41): Noah sees AI as one of the biggest forces shaping paid media, but doesn't believe PPC professionals are about to be replaced by AI agents. Instead, he's excited about using AI to automate time-consuming tasks and tackle complex data analysis, freeing marketers to spend more time on higher-value strategic work. Keeping Humans in Control of Automation (23:47): As Google and other platforms remove more manual levers, Noah discusses the shift from hands-on campaign management toward guiding increasingly sophisticated algorithms. While automation can improve performance, he cautions against a future of “just trust me, bro” campaigns where advertisers lose visibility and control. The Evolution of YouTube Measurement (26:29): Noah and Chris explore the challenge of proving YouTube's performance value, particularly for smaller advertisers without access to expensive measurement models. Noah highlights attributed branded searches as an especially promising development for connecting upper-funnel YouTube activity to measurable business results. Words of Wisdom: Find Work You Enjoy (30:31): Noah encourages listeners not to waste years doing work they hate. After experiencing roles that weren't the right fit, he says his first few months at Granular have reinforced the value of finding work—and a company—that makes the day-to-day genuinely enjoyable. Wrap-Up (31:53): Chris thanks Noah for joining the podcast and helping celebrate Getting Granular's 50th episode. Noah embraces the honor of becoming the milestone guest before Chris encourages listeners to subscribe for more PPC tips, insights, and digital marketing conversations.

O maior banco da América Latina agora é parceiro oficial do podcast! Bem-vindo Itaú!Assine aqui a Product Arena com R$100 OFF e participe de todos nossos cursos e eventosQuase seis meses depois da segunda edição, Arthur, Aíquis e Efrem voltam pro episódio clássico do Papo na Arena: Como estamos usando IA no dia a dia?Spoiler: mudou menos de ferramenta e muito mais de comportamento.Neste episódio, cada um abre o próprio sistema operacional.Efrem vive ~12h/dia no Claude Opus Ultra High, migrou do terminal pra web e celular, e praticamente abandonou skills e MCPs: o modelo evoluiu tanto que skill demais vira legado e enviesa o resultado.Aíquis está no mix Claude + Codex, saiu do tokenmaxxing, testa modelos mais baratos e entrou em modo manutenção de skills. Arthur cancelou a assinatura do Claude e roda um setup multimodelo no Cursor, com Grok 4.5 como padrão, carrosséis e cortes 100% com AI, e o Start My Day conectado a Hotmart, Analytics, Meta Ads e até Wispr Flow.A conversa também entra no código como substrato universal, no abismo entre a bolha tech e quem ainda está no ChatGPT grátis, e na pergunta que já virou pressuposto: você ainda pergunta se alguém usa IA, ou já assume que usa, igual computador?

In dieser Folge des Onlineshop Geflüster Podcasts geht es um einen Satz, den ich seit dem Andromeda Update ständig höre: Meine Ads performen nicht mehr wie vorher. Andromeda war ein großes Algorithmus-Update von Meta. Deutlich leistungsfähigere Chips, besseres Targeting, und im Gegenzug verlangt Meta eines: größtmögliche Vielfalt. Nicht eine Ad mit zehn Mini-Varianten, bei denen ein Wort in der Headline oder eine Farbe im Bild anders ist. So hat das vor Jahren funktioniert, heute nicht mehr. Bei neuen Accounts starten wir deshalb meistens mit einer Kampagne, einer Anzeigengruppe und 20 bis 30 Tests, die so unterschiedlich wie möglich sind. Video, Bild, Katalog, Karussell, verschiedene Angles auf dasselbe Produkt. Wenn ich mir bei den Shops, die sich beschweren, anschaue was sie tatsächlich jede Woche umgesetzt haben, dann ist es fast immer zu wenig. Zu wenig Creatives, zu schlechte Tests, zu wenig Plan. Andromeda ist in dem Fall nicht das Problem, sondern nur der Auslöser. Es gibt genug Advertiser, die von dem Update überhaupt nichts gemerkt haben, weil die Foundations stimmen: Conversion Rate, durchschnittlicher Bestellwert, Zahlen im Blick und genug Volumen an guten Tests. Wer das nicht hat, wird auch beim nächsten Update wieder den Algorithmus verantwortlich machen. Viel Spaß beim Anhören! Dein Berend. __________ Mache den ersten Schritt und buche dir eine kostenlose SHOPANALYSE: https://www.berend-heins.de/termin __________

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We coach over 200 ecommerce brands on Meta ads and watch more than $5 million a month in ad spend run through Breezeway, and the campaign structure behind almost all of it is simple enough to draw on one page. Most people are failing at Meta because they built something far more complicated than it needed to be.

Olivia Kory is the CMO of Haus Analytics. Learn more about Haus at https://haus.io.Link to Haus Incremental Attribution blog post: https://www.haus.io/blog/is-metas-incremental-attribution-outperforming-standard-attribution-what-the-data-showsMy episode about incremental attribution for my clients: https://youtu.be/tNQO3pyLtA4FOLLOW UP WITH ANDREWX: https://x.com/andrewjfarisEmail: podcast@ajfgrowth.comWork With AJF Growth: https://ajfgrowth.comINTELLIGEMSIntelligems brings A/B testing to business decisions beyond copy and design. Test your pricing, shipping charges, free shipping thresholds, offers, SaaS tools, and more by clicking here: https://bit.ly/42DcmFl. Get 20% off the first 3 months with code FARIS20.MORE STAFFINGRecruit, onboard, and train incredible virtual professionals in the Philippines with my friends at More Staffing by visiting https://morestaffing.co/af.

If you've ever grown your email list and thought... why isn't anyone buying? I sat down with Sophie Griffiths, ads strategist and creator of the Superfans approach, for one of those conversations that makes you rethink everything you're doing to grow your business online. Sophie works with coaches and service providers who want to scale using ads and group programs, and she has a very specific (and very refreshing) take on what it actually means to build an audience that converts. In this episode, we cover: What a superfan actually is Why most of us are accidentally building an audience of lurkers instead of buyers Three things Sophie does to consistently turn cold leads into people who put her on their vision board Timestamps Intro 0:00 Interview 1:31 Wrapping up 44:42 ABOUT GUEST: Sophie Griffiths is a scaling strategist and Meta™ Ads expert. She's known for helping impatiently ambitious women scale their businesses by growing an audience of superfans, creating stackable recurring revenue, and building the team and systems that mean they stop being the bottleneck to their own growth. Her background spans the corporate world, including managing a team of 350+ at British Airways, and eight years working with small businesses, and it's that combination that shapes her approach: empowering clients to take bold action while feeling genuinely safe and supported in how they do it. CONNECT WITH GUEST: Insta www.instagram.com/sophiegriffithsco Website www.sophiegriffiths.co Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/ddJKlzAWHH4 Read on the Blog: https://whitedeer.com.au/ep278/ WORK WITH JACQUI: // DIY Design My Biz: The best course for business owners DIYing their own brand and graphics in Canva. Learn more: https://whitedeer.com.au/diy-dmb // The Co+Creation Design Club: Design WITH the help of a professional designer in this high-touch coaching space: https://whitedeer.com.au/designclub // Design Studio: If you're after fully done-for-you design services my studio team can help! https://whitedeer.com.au/designstudio

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What does it take to build a dating app to $140K MRR in just 6 months, while launching in only one country?In this live session, we're joined by Gabriel Zeitoun, founder of BPM, a dating app built exclusively for sporty people. Despite being available only in France, BPM has achieved impressive growth through a relentless focus on product design, onboarding, paid acquisition, and long-term retention.Gabriel will share how his team validated the idea, built a product users love, optimized onboarding and paywalls, and scaled primarily through Meta Ads. We'll also dive into his philosophy on UI, why stability beats chasing algorithms, and what it really takes to grow a consumer app from scratch.Whether you're building a dating app or any subscription-based mobile app, you'll leave with actionable growth strategies you can apply immediately.You will discover:✅ How BPM reached $140K MRR in only 6 months✅ Why launching in one country first accelerated growth✅ Gabriel's UI and product design philosophy✅ How they optimized onboarding and paywalls✅ Their Meta Ads campaign structure and creative strategyLearn More:Check out BPM:https://www.bpm.so/ You can also watch this video here: https://youtube.com/live/JywSxxABu-0*********************************************SPONSORSThe app growth playbook is changing fast.AppsFlyer's State of eCommerce App Marketing Report 2026 breaks down the latest trends, benchmarks, fraud insights, and market-by-market data every app marketer should know before planning Q4.Download it free from the link below: https://bit.ly/4uvoHGM*********************************************Tired of handing 30% of every in-game sale to iOS and Android billing systems? Appcharge is the DTC monetization platform trusted by King, Huuuge, Tripledot, and SciPlay – giving studios a direct line to their players, and up to 95% of every transaction. Web stores, payment links, and a full Merchant of Record service covering taxes, compliance, and global payments – all in one platform. Learn more:https://www.appcharge.com/*********************************************Follow us:YouTube: ⁠AppMasters.com/YouTube⁠Instagram: ⁠@App MastersTwitter: ⁠@App MastersTikTok: ⁠@stevepyoung⁠Facebook: ⁠App Masters⁠*********************************************

Send us Fan MailMeta Ads for ecommerce in 2026 depend on profitable customer acquisition, ROAS targets, creative testing, and smarter paid media decisions.  @SamPiliero   shares how Meta Andromeda, ecommerce ad creative, contribution margin, and testing budgets affect profitable ecommerce growth. AI advertising, audience data, media buying, and creative volume show how ecommerce brands can improve paid ad performance without wasting spend.Get direct access to Sam Piliero's Meta ads training, real campaign breakdowns, and a community of serious ecommerce brands at http://skool.com/facebookBrands spending more on ads without profitable customer growth can get a paid media plan built around ROAS, margin, and creative testing: https://bit.ly/4jMZtxu#MetaAds #EcommerceMarketing #FacebookAds #ROAS #PaidMediaWant free resources? Dowload our Free Amazon guides here:Download the 2026 Amazon AI Operating Manual: https://bit.ly/3SLmusPAmazon Receiving Delay Guide: https://hubs.ly/Q04cdD4c0Amazon Catalog Spring Cleaning: https://hubs.ly/Q046BVfp0Amazon Proft Margin Defense 2026: https://hubs.ly/Q042trRH0Amazon SEO Toolkit 2026: https://bit.ly/4oC2ClTAmazon Seller Strategy Report 2026: https://bit.ly/3YN1RME2026 Ecommerce Website & SEO Readiness Checklist: https://hubs.ly/Q04btghf0Amazon 2026 PPC guide: https://bit.ly/4lF0OYXTimestamps0:00 – Meta Ads for Ecommerce and Paid Media0:40 – How Ecommerce Paid Advertising Changed Over 10 Years4:18 – Why Ecommerce Customer Acquisition Gets Expensive6:33 – Contribution Margin vs ROAS for Ecommerce8:05 – How to Set a Profitable ROAS Target9:06 – Why Higher ROAS Can Limit Ecommerce Growth11:56 – How Meta Andromeda Changes Creative Targeting13:44 – Why Creative Volume Matters in Meta Ads15:56 – How to Test Meta Ad Creative Variations17:17 – Lowering the Budget Used for Ad Testing18:16 – Creative vs Media Buying for Ecommerce Growth21:05 – AI Advertising for Meta Ads in 202622:55 – AI Creative and Paid Media Reporting Workflows25:33 – AI Advertising Compliance and Brand Risk26:43 – Why Experienced Paid Media Talent Matters-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Follow us:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/28605816/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/stevenpopemag/Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/myamazonguys/Twitter: https://twitter.com/myamazonguySubscribe to the My Amazon Guy podcast: https://podcast.myamazonguy.comApple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/my-amazon-guy/id1501974229Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4A5ASHGGfr6s4wWNQIqyVwSupport the show

Taylor Holiday is the CEO and Co-Founder of Common Thread Collective. Learn more about CTC at https://commonthreadco.com and follow up with Taylor on X at https://x.com/taylorholiday.Studies referenced by Taylor:Do Cost Controls Work? https://hermod.statlas.io/mcp/report/shared?user=anmar.commonthreadco.com&ts=1785286905Should You Turn Off Ads https://hermod.statlas.io/mcp/report/shared?user=anmar.commonthreadco.com&ts=1785513697FOLLOW UP WITH ANDREWX: https://x.com/andrewjfarisEmail: podcast@ajfgrowth.comWork With AJF Growth: https://ajfgrowth.comINTELLIGEMSIntelligems brings A/B testing to business decisions beyond copy and design. Test your pricing, shipping charges, free shipping thresholds, offers, SaaS tools, and more by clicking here: https://bit.ly/42DcmFl. Get 20% off the first 3 months with code FARIS20.BEHIND THE SCENES STUDIOWork with the same Meta Ads creative production team that Andrew does with Behind The Scenes Studio, a More Staffing sister company: https://www.btsstudio.co/.

 In this episode of Seven Figures Or Bust, Glen Shelton sits down with Meta Ads expert Shauna  Thoresen to reveal how insurance agents can generate more Medicare leads with Facebook and Meta Ads—without relying on expensive lead vendors or done-for-you systems. Learn the biggest mistakes agents make, how to build marketing assets you actually own, and proven strategies to create high-converting campaigns that deliver long-term results.  

Black Friday came from big-brand retail marketers seeing an opportunity to leverage a cultural event to make money. So when small businesses try to replicate and compete they run into trouble.  Small businesses don't have the economy of scale big businesses do  Small business blindly follow big business strategy - big biz may be going on sale to capture share of market, or move dead stock. So 70% off makes sense for them. This does not work for small biz.  So… how do small businesses make Black Friday work for them? Listen to this episode to find out how to use meta ads to make sure your business wins this Black Friday Cyber Monday holiday sales period. Megan covers how to:  Understand what role BF will play in your business plan Understand your number so you don't grow yourself to death Plan your offer so it works for your business Time it properly Create intentional messaging.  Use ads effectively and avoid overpaying at the busiest time of year  Plan to win Learn more about working with us: The next 8-week mentoring program where you'll learn to run Meta ads like a pro is opening soon. Apply now.  Hire us to run your ads. Learn more.  Learn how to run your own ads. Click here.  Learn more about your host:  Megan Winter is a meta ads expert, an experienced ADMA and AMI-awarded marketer and founder of Lume Marketing. As an early-adopter of digital marketing and social media advertising, she has consulted to global brands owned by Heineken and Lexus, has taught hundreds of small business owners at The Facebook Ads Academy, and presented on digital marketing at Bond University. Now, her passion is helping ethical, purpose-led brands achieve more income and impact with high-performing meta ads. Connect with Megan on Instagram @meganwinter or LinkedIn 

En la industria de la belleza, tener un buen producto ya no es suficiente para destacar. Hoy los consumidores buscan marcas con las que puedan identificarse, que transmitan transparencia y que respalden cada una de sus promesas. La confianza se ha convertido en uno de los activos más valiosos para cualquier emprendimiento del sector. Leandro Pintos, fundador de Semillas Cosméticos y especialista en e-commerce y Meta Ads, explica cuáles son los pilares que permitieron construir una marca con clientes fieles y cómo cualquier emprendedor puede aplicar esos principios. Para Leandro, todo comienza mucho antes de vender el primer producto. El verdadero diferencial está en definir qué representa la marca y mantenerse fiel a esa identidad con el paso del tiempo: "La confianza del consumidor se genera no traicionando los valores de la marca. Cuando uno los define y son fuertes, el usuario se va sentir representado". Esa coherencia genera una conexión emocional que va mucho más allá de la compra inicial y fortalece la relación con los clientes. En el caso de Semillas Cosméticos, esa propuesta de valor fue clara desde el comienzo. La marca construyó su posicionamiento alrededor del bienestar y el cuidado responsable, incorporando atributos que hoy son cada vez más valorados por los consumidores. "Logramos una fidelidad desde el principio por el tipo de producto que tenemos y por el tipo de nicho, porque, más allá de la impronta del cuidado de la salud, los productos son veganos, no testeados en animales, son hipoalergénicos y están clínica y dermatológicamente testeados", describe nuestro invitado. Estas características no solo diferencian a la marca, sino que también transmiten seguridad y credibilidad a quienes buscan productos para el cuidado personal. Sin embargo, contar con buenos atributos no alcanza si el cliente no logra comprenderlos. En un mercado donde abundan los términos técnicos y las promesas complejas, Leandro considera que la comunicación cumple un papel decisivo: "La comunicación es vital con esta clase de productos, porque no hablamos en lenguaje técnico, sino que nuestra comunicación la pueden comprender todas las personas". Explicar los beneficios de manera simple y cercana permite que el consumidor entienda qué está comprando y por qué ese producto puede resolver su necesidad. Esa claridad también fortalece la confianza. Cuando una marca comunica de forma sencilla, evita exageraciones y mantiene un mensaje coherente con sus valores, reduce las dudas del cliente y facilita la decisión de compra. En categorías tan sensibles como la cosmética, donde las personas aplican los productos sobre su piel, esa credibilidad puede ser incluso más importante que el precio. Construir una marca de belleza sólida no depende únicamente de desarrollar una buena fórmula. También implica definir una identidad auténtica, sostener valores consistentes y comunicarlos de manera clara. Cuando el consumidor percibe esa coherencia en cada punto de contacto con la marca, la confianza deja de ser una consecuencia del marketing y se convierte en el principal motor de fidelización y crecimiento. Instagram: @soyleanpintosok / @semillacosmeticos

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In this episode, Barbara and Neil discussed the following: Neil explains his255 method for Facebook and Instagram ads: two campaigns (warm and cold), five audiences, and five ads to systematically find winning combinations and scale.  They discuss how Facebook charges per 1,000 views(CPM) rather than per click, and what that means for setting and spending a daily budget.  Neil shares the story of launching Scotland's biggest health and fitness exhibition, nearly failing, and then saving and scaling it purely through Facebook ads.  They compare Google Ads vs. Meta (Facebook/Instagram) Ads for physicians, recommending Google for high-intent cold traffic and Meta primarily for remarketing, then broader cold traffic once scale is needed.  They cover practical advertising guidance for doctors—starting around $20/day, using metrics like link click-through rate, balancing warm vs. cold campaigns, and choosing a proven ads expert with a strong track record and longevity in the field.    Key Takeaways:  “Facebook and Instagram and Google, TikTok, LinkedIn ads, all the ad platforms they learn really really quickly, and where the the best leads are, and if you spend $20 per day for five to seven days, you’ll have really good data as to which audiences are working well, which ads are working well, which ones are not, and you can start to make adjustments from there.” – Neil Shoney Connect with Neil Shoney:  Instagram:  neilshoneymac  Facebook:  www.facebook.com/neilshoneymac  Business website: neil-maclean-marketing.mykajabi.com  Show website:   www.MarketingTipsForDoctors.com  Spotify:  The Shoney show  Apple Podcasts: The Shoney show  YouTube: Neil ‘Shoney’ Mac  LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/neilshoneymac  Connect with Barbara Hales:   Twitter: @DrBarbaraHales Facebook: facebook.com/theMedicalStrategist Business Website: TheMedicalStrategist.com Email: info@TheMedicalStrategist.com  YouTube:@barbarahales LinkedIn: https://www.LinkedIn.com/in/barbarahalesBooks: Content Copy Made Easy 14 Tactics to Triple Sales Power to the Patient: The Medical Strategist TRANSCRIPT (242)   Chapter 1: Introducing Neil Shoney and the Promise of Scalable Ads  0:00 | Dr. Barbara Hales  [0:00:01] Dr. Barbara Hales: Welcome to another episode of Marketing Tips for Doctors. I’m your host, Dr. Barbara Hales, and today we have with us a very interesting character by the name of Neil Shoney. Neil is an ad strategist and go-to expert for service-based businesses that want a simple, proven, scalable Facebook ad system that consistently brings in premium clients. With 13 years of running ads and over 3,000 service providers helped, Neil is known for turning complicated advertising into clear, repeatable frameworks that work across different service industries. Because, unlike almost everywhere else you turn, Neil does not believe in a one-size-fits-all approach. After managing high-spend campaigns in the UK and US, Neil shifted into coaching full-time and created a library of 36 proprietary frameworks, including his 25-5 method, that helps service providers install a functioning, profitable ad system in days, not months, that they can turn on or off like a tap, whenever they want new leads. His clients span over 62 niches, with 21 of those niches hitting six-figure months through ads. Welcome to the show, Neil.  [0:01:44] Neil Shoney: Thanks much for having me, Barbara. Appreciate you.  [0:01:47] Dr. Barbara Hales: Could you explain the 255 method?     Chapter 2: The 255 Method—Two Campaigns, Five Audiences, Five Ads  1:51 | Neil Shoney     [0:01:51] Neil Shoney: Sure. The 255 method is at the heart of it, just a testing method for running advertising. So the majority of the time when a practice runs advertising through Facebook and Instagram or any other ad platform for that matter, they typically run what I call a one-one-one method. That is one campaign going to one audience with one ad, and there’ll definitely be people listening right now who are just like nodding along with bigger eyes, going, “That is exactly what I’m doing right now. I see it all the time, and what you have in that situation is you’ve basically taken your best guess at every single step of creating that campaign. So you’ve written the ad copy, and you’ve hoped that it’s going to be great. You’ve chosen your image or your video, and you hope that it’s going to be great. You’ve chosen your audience, and you hope that it’s going to be the right one. But with the Shony 255 method, we do it this way: first, we run two campaigns rather than one. First of all, you’ve already doubled your chance of finding a winner because not both of them have to be winners. You can find a winner and a loser, and then put all your eggs into one winning basket. Those two campaigns that we split out-one is for warm, and one is for cold. That’s people who know who you are and people who don’t know who you are. That’s the first step that a lot of practices get wrong. They only target people who have never heard of them before, who may not even be in the market, and yet you could put a very small amount of ad spend behind people who have already visited your social media pages, your website, etc., and simply get back in front of those people and have really, really high conversion rates. The first step there is two campaigns rather than one. The second step of the 255 method is where the first five comes in, and that’s five audiences rather than one. And so, quite simply, instead of, you know, saying people interested in this one thing and taking your best guess, you get the great opportunity to choose five different interests that somebody might have, or five different demographic targeting tools that we can choose from, and you don’t have to be right 100% of the time. You actually only need to be right once out of the five. Now, when we set this up, we hope that all five are fantastic. That’s great for scale. But if four of them are, you know, they just don’t work. That’s absolutely fine. We can turn off those audiences. We found our winner, and we can push all the budget towards the winner. And then the final step of the 255 method is the final five: having five ads rather than just one. And there are two reasons for this. Number one is it’s also great to find winners and losers inside your ads, and you know the things that don’t work. You can turn them off. People never have to see them ever again, and you can push all the budget towards the winners. But there’s a second reason as well, and you’ve probably experienced this yourself, Barbara, and so will so many people who are listening right now. Is that you show any level of interest in something that you see via an ad? You might not even click through to the website, but if you stop scrolling, you hit the see more button, you read it, or you watch the video, and then you start seeing the ad over and over and over again. That’s Facebook basically saying this person is interested in this, but they didn’t take the action that the advertiser wanted them to take, which is to click through, request a callback, book an appointment, whatever it may be. Now, if you set up your ads the way that 98% of people do, a 111 campaign, then Facebook’s only option is to show the same ad to the same person over and over and over again, but if you have five ads, they’ll show them ad number two, then ad number three, then ad number four, and it helps to re-engage people and get more people to take action.  [0:05:53] Neil Shoney: So it’s a testing method to find winners and losers, and rather than just, you know, throwing something against the wall, and it’s either going to stick or it’s not. It gives you a much higher probability of running a successful campaign. Mathematically, there are 50 variations there, so there’s 50 chances to find a winning variation, and it allows for a lot of scalability because if you have multiple audiences that become successful and multiple ads that are successful, then there’s a lot of opportunity to increase the spend on the front end to get much more out the other side.  [0:06:27] Dr. Barbara Hales: What a great idea! So, do the clients get charged by Facebook for someone clicking on View More, or only if they click through?     Chapter 3: How Facebook Bills and Neil's Origin Story with Ads  6:45 | Neil Shoney     [0:06:45] Neil Shoney: Actually, with Facebook and Instagram, the way that it works is you’re charged per 1000 views, so it’s not charged based upon clicks and not clicks and things like that. As Google says, they are cost per click, and you know you’re charged whenever somebody clicks on the ad; technically, Google is still doing cost per 1000 views. They’re just choosing to send the billing notification once somebody has clicked. So it’s smart marketing on their side because they get to say You only pay if somebody clicks. People are going to click, so you’re going to pay anyway. But with Facebook, they have a cost per 1000 views, which is different for everybody. It depends on the ad, how many people you’re targeting, and who’s inside those audiences. But technically, you know, you set a daily budget, so it could be $10 a day, it could be $100 a day, it could be $1,000 a day, depend upon the size of the business, and you’re going to most likely spend what you set as a budget, as long as there’s a big enough audience there for Facebook to target.  [0:07:47] Dr. Barbara Hales: How did you get into this originally?  [0:07:50] Neil Shoney: Well, I actually 1314 years ago, something like that. I started Scotland’s biggest ever health and fitness exhibition, and I came straight out of university. I’d studied sport and exercise science. I always knew I was going to be entrepreneurial, and I just thought everybody would buy into my idea: a huge event at Scotland’s biggest venue, with a break-even of about 4,000 tickets needing to be sold for the weekend. I just thought that everybody would hear about it and think it would be incredible, and I ended up signing my life away with no money in the bank, hundreds of 1000s of pounds, or hundreds of 1000s of dollars, I should say, of contracts to be able to put on this massive show. And about five months into advertising, we’d sold around, you know, 50 tickets at $12.50  [0:08:48] Dr. Barbara Hales: That’s pretty scary.  [0:08:50] Neil Shoney: Yeah, it was pretty scary. We were about four and a half months out from the show itself, and everybody was knocking their doors down for outstanding invoices and different things, and to be honest, going to Facebook ads was like a last roll of the dice. I’d already done everything that everybody does in the marketing space when they’re bootstrapping, which is posting lots on social media, cold outreach, finding email addresses on Google, sending emails to personal trainers and all sorts. No matter how hard I worked, nothing was clicking. And when I ran Facebook ads, I ended up doing something very similar to the Shony 255 method. And I think it was just a bit of luck that I went down that route of being like, “Oh, I can test out different audiences. I can test out different ads. That’s how that feels safer. So I just did that. That was the way that I set them up in the first place, and I ended up spending. I think it was around, you know, like $50 or something in the first few days, and I had returned somewhere in the region of I think it was 150 Or $250 something like that, in sales, and it was just this like penny drop moment where I was like, “Wow, I can track how much money I put into this thing, how much money comes out the other side, and if I know how much I need to put in to get something out, something specific out the other side, I can basically choose how many tickets I want to sell, as long as I have the cash flow, of course, to be able to reinvest into the ads, and that’s what we did. And we ended up not just selling, you know, more tickets, but we ended up almost hitting our target for tickets sold four and a half months later. The show was a big success. We ended up scaling it over the next four years, and then selling it to the country’s biggest event organizers. And we never ran TV ads, billboards, or radio advertising, as all of these big exhibitions do. We just ran Facebook ads, and that was it. So I never planned to teach anybody Facebook ads. I just tried to use it to save myself from a terrible situation.  [0:11:05] Dr. Barbara Hales: Well, what a great story that was. Thank  [0:11:09] Neil Shoney: you.     Chapter 4: Google vs. Meta Ads and Leveraging Instagram Targeting  11:09 | Dr. Barbara Hales     [0:11:09] Dr. Barbara Hales: When it comes to physicians, is it better for doctors to use Google Ads, Meta Ads, or both?  [0:11:18] Neil Shoney: I would always lean into Google first if you’re doing cold prospecting. People who don’t know who you are, because of course people are going to go to Google or AI now as well. But Google’s still the frontrunner by a long shot. People are going to go to Google to find the providers that are close to them for the specific problems that they have, and so albeit that Google Ads cost significantly more to get in front of 1000 people, it’s so high intent that if it’s set up correctly, then you end up getting a very high percentage of people who click on your ads going all the way through to creating a booking with Facebook, the the next best step, or Facebook and Instagram, we should probably talk about them collectively because it’s the same ad platform. The best thing you can do if you’re on a low budget and you’re sort of just starting out with advertising for your practice is use it first and foremost for remarketing, so you can take your Facebook pixel and drop it onto your website. You can also create audiences of anybody that visits your Facebook or Instagram page, which some people may do before deciding to book with you as well. And we can create these audiences of people that already know who you are, and we can advertise to those people. And so, if you wanted to make the best use of your ad dollars, it would be Google first. It would be Facebook remarketing second, and then I would use Facebook and Instagram more broadly for cold traffic as your third step. So that would be once you already feel that you’ve already significantly scaled the first two; that’s where you go to find more customers at scale.  [0:13:12] Dr. Barbara Hales: When someone advertises on Facebook, does it automatically go to Instagram as well, or do you have to request that? No,  [0:13:20] Neil Shoney: No, automatically. You would actually have to uncheck some boxes to stop it happening.  [0:13:26] Dr. Barbara Hales: Why would you want to?  [0:13:27] Neil Shoney: No, you wouldn’t.  [0:13:31] Dr. Barbara Hales: And people on Instagram would see the ads even if they don’t follow you.  [0:13:36] Neil Shoney: Yes, absolutely. So anybody who is within your targeting can see your ads, so you can target people based upon, of course, age, gender, location. Which, of course, location is going to be very important for local practices. But you can also do some targeting based around certain things like their interests, and you know some things as well, like you can target people based upon not just whether they’re a parent or not. You can target them based upon how old their kids are. Like Facebook has a lot of data, and it feels accurate, and there’s a lot that you can do with the targeting tools.     Chapter 5: Budgets, Metrics, and Warm vs. Cold Campaign Strategy  14:19 | Dr. Barbara Hales     [0:14:19] Dr. Barbara Hales: Well, that’s a great idea. When a physician is considering ads, let’s say it’s a new practice, or he is providing a new service or a product that he didn’t have before, what do you advise them to spend on a daily basis for their budget?  [0:14:39] Neil Shoney: So I actually suggest that everybody starts at just around $20 per day with any campaign, and that may sound to some people like, oh, it’s just plain small. The reason I say $20 per day is because Facebook, Instagram, Google-they learn so quickly. If you’ve ever been told by an agency the reason. The reason that you’re not getting results is that you’ve not spent enough, or because Facebook and Instagram take a really long time to learn. It’s actually their calling card: they don’t know how to get you results. Facebook and Instagram and Google, TikTok, LinkedIn ads, all the ad platforms they learn really really quickly, and where the the best leads are, and if you spend $20 per day for five to seven days, you’ll have really good data as to which audiences are working well, which ads are working well, which ones are not, and you can start to make adjustments from there. As soon as you have a positive ROI, that is the point at which we start the scaling process. So we don’t go with the mindset of your budget for the month is you know $2,000 So let’s figure out how much we need to spend per day to spend $2,000 The target’s not to spend $2,000 The target’s to find winners that bring in more revenue than you spend, and then you can start to scale towards spending $2,000 and that that’s the safest way to do  [0:16:08] Dr. Barbara Hales: it. How can you differentiate between not getting responses because people aren’t interested in you versus it just not being a good ad that needs to be changed?  [0:16:19] Neil Shoney: Yeah, well, there’s a couple of things. There, there’s a million different stats on the Facebook Ads dashboard, but there’s one that most people don’t even know exists. But it’s actually almost the tell-all of whether the ad is resonating with people or if it’s a landing page issue, like getting people to take action when they actually get to your website, and that is link click-through rate. So there are two. There’s one that’s just click-through rate, and there’s one that’s link click-through rate. That one is what percentage of the people who see your ads actually click the button to go to your website, right? So it’s not, you know, hitting the like button, commenting, or seeing more. That’s click-through rate. Link click-through rate, however, is people actually clicking to leave Facebook after they’ve read your ad. Now, if it’s over 1%, we typically say there’s nothing wrong with the ads. The ads are doing their job. It’s getting people to stop scrolling, to read, and to leave Facebook. If you’re not getting inquiries on the next page, we then focus on the page and how do we get more people to take action there? If, on the other hand, you’ve got an ad that is, you know, 0.5%, then we’re quite far off where we need to be in terms of the link click-through rate. Then that’s when I would look at the advert itself and say, how do we get more people’s attention? How do we get more people to take action from the ad?  [0:17:53] Dr. Barbara Hales: Are ads best for cold prospecting or remarketing to people who hit my website? If both, how can this be maximized for the biggest ROIs?  [0:18:07] Neil Shoney: Well, both of them have their place in terms of what we would want anybody to be running. You know, like one month after working with us, for instance, we would want everybody to be running both, because there’s your warm campaign, your remarketing, which is fantastic for a small spend and a high ROI. That’s amazing, but there’s only so many people in there, so there’s only so far you can scale with that. And once you’ve kind of maximized that side of things, if you want to grow faster and acquire clients faster, you have to go out into the cold market. You have to go out and find more customers that may be out there. So, in terms of what’s more important, I suppose to start off, if you’re not advertising at all right now, I would say the warm side of things, the remarketing. But if you’re really serious about scaling, then both of them are very important to make scale happen as quickly as possible.     Chapter 6: Small Budgets, Getting Help, and Choosing the Right Ads Expert  19:12 | Dr. Barbara Hales     [0:19:12] Dr. Barbara Hales: What would you say to someone who says to you, you know, I don’t really have a budget, you know, so I haven’t been advertising, and you know, is it worth it? You know, is it definitely going to work, or am I just going to be throwing money in the air?  [0:19:28] Neil Shoney: Well, a couple of things. The first thing is, you don’t have to start off with a high budget, like I was saying. You can start at a small budget. You can see what happens with the ads. Just like my story with the events business 14 years ago: if it hadn’t worked, if I hadn’t sold tickets in that first week or a week or two weeks, I wouldn’t have continued spending money on it. But because I spent a small amount of money and made significantly more back, it gave me the opportunity to scale into that thing. The second thing is don’t go into it without some sort of guidance. And I don’t even mean that you need to work with somebody like me. Like you can go onto YouTube. Like you can go onto YouTube and at least get some tips and direction around how to do certain things, like for instance, some people right now will be going. How do I set up warm retargeting? How do I set up these warm audiences? I’ve literally got a YouTube video inside the ads dashboard where I set them all up. So, like you, you don’t have to go into this completely blindly, even if you don’t want to invest in, you know, courses and agencies and things like that. So do some research. Don’t just throw something against the wall and then determine that it doesn’t work. There are things that need to happen to make advertising successful, but a lot of it’s out there on YouTube.  [0:20:56] Dr. Barbara Hales: As a doctor, if I was looking for somebody to just do it, I didn’t want to get involved. I just want them to do it. How? What criteria do I use to pick the right one? How do I recognize who is you know going to do it for me versus someone who you know read a course last weekend and doesn’t really keep doing?  [0:21:18] Neil Shoney: Well, track records are really a really big thing. How long have they been doing it? It’s a massive one. So I mean, we have just an absolute crazy amount of testimonial videos, and if anybody ever goes through, like, my Instagram or whatever, every few days it’s another testimonial video or something that a client sent us or whatever it may be, and we’ve done that for like 10 years here, just like churning it out. So when you go on our landing pages, it’s sometimes like 120 videos that are on that page. So, like, what type of results have they got for clients is number one, but the second one is how long have they been doing this for? And the reason why that’s so important is Facebook and Instagram are changing all the time, and so if they only had the ability to be able to run advertising successfully in a pocket of time, when they had a system that worked with the Facebook algorithm today, for instance, as soon as Facebook announces two months from now that they’ve changed the algorithm, are they going to be savvy enough to be able to do the appropriate testing to figure out how to continue having their clients win in the new environment? So time in the game is also as important as the results that they’ve been getting most recently.  [0:22:37] Dr. Barbara Hales: It does seem so unfair, though, that you know, like if we catch your game, you’re going to change it.     Chapter 7: Regaining Targeting Control, Video Tips, and How to Reach Neil  22:41 | Neil Shoney     [0:22:41] Neil Shoney: Yeah, they do it all the time, and they’ll always tell you that it’s because they want to help you. They don’t. They want to find plenty of ways to get you to spend more money. So that’s what the most recent algorithm update was all about. It was, hey, you don’t need to think about targeting anymore. Just let us choose the targeting, and we’ll find the right people for you, and that’s going to really help you get results. It hasn’t played out like that at all. What it turns out is that Facebook has lots of inventory for people you’re not trying to get in front of, and now they have permission from you to spend all of your ad dollars on those inverted commas, low-quality leads, if you will. So there are ways that you can take back control of your ads. There’s a button. This is probably one of the best tips I can give anybody on this podcast, by the way, because a lot of you are running localized businesses. So there are two big reasons.  [0:23:42] Dr. Barbara Hales: Okay, because the next question I have for you, so you could put it in there, is for someone that is, you know, has heard you and said, okay, you’ve convinced me. I’m going to dip my toe in the waters. What are two helpful tips that you could give to our listeners that they could implement right away?  [0:24:04] Neil Shoney: So this is the biggest one for anybody that runs a localized business in general, which is when you’re setting up your adverts, and you get to the second step. There are only three steps: campaign, ad set, and, for ease of understanding, that’s your audience who is going to get to see your ad. And then there’s a third step, which is setting up the ad itself. That’s the thing people are going to see. That middle step, right now, it looks like there’s not too much that you can do there. You set a minimum age. You don’t set too much targeting in terms of locations; you can technically set a locational target in there, but it feels like you are being relatively pinpoint about who is going to get to see your ads. But you’re not. What is actually happening there is you are giving face. A suggestion, and that is very dangerous for a local business, because when you say I specifically work with women between the ages of 30-five and 50-five in this 10-mile radius, they can show 20% of your your ads to men, and they can show another 20% of your ads to 18-year-olds and 70-two year olds, and they can also show your ads outside of that 10-mile radius. But there’s one button at the bottom of the page that you’ll see, which says “Further limit the reach of my ads. The wording is almost comical because it’s like, how much do they not want you to hit that button, right? So that they just can spend your ad dollars however they wish, right? But if you click on that button, it gives you the ability to go into everything I just said there: gender, location, age, and uncheck a box that says “use as a suggestion. When you do that, you take back pinpoint control over who can see your ads, and for local businesses, you might even find that it raises your cost per lead. Right, that’s not a bad thing, because what is the point in having low-cost leads if there are a bunch of people who can never work with you, who can never walk through your doors? So it’s not always that it’s more expensive. I’m just saying that technically it could happen, but I would rather have great leads, great quality, my target demographic, than a whole bunch of leads that would never buy from me. So that’s really important. The second thing is for these types of businesses, video is really powerful, and it doesn’t even need to be, you know, really high-quality video with transitions and a filming crew. I mean, it can just quite simply be a little bit of B-roll of, you know, somebody in the practice, which can obviously be set up. It’s not like you have to start recording your sessions, but just having that type of B-roll catches people’s attention. There is a great place for images inside your five ads, but videos work really, really well for localized businesses and service-based businesses.  [0:27:21] Dr. Barbara Hales: Well, those are really both great bits of advice. The next question I have is for someone that wants to take a course from you or get advice from you. How can they reach you?  [0:27:34] Neil Shoney: Well, there are a couple of ways. The first way is to quite simply go to Instagram and go to Neil Shoney Ads. So it looks like “Neil’s Honey Ads,” unfortunately, the way it sounds. But it’s Neil Shoni ads, all one word. And you can get loads of tips there and different things via the link in my bio. There’s a five-minute video that walks you through our whole system and how we work with clients. Or you could just send me a message there directly, or you can email me at neil@neilshone.com or neil@neilshoney.com if you want to sign up that way, and yeah, we can have a quick conversation from there.  [0:28:17] Dr. Barbara Hales: Well, thank you so much for being on the show. I really found this, you know, very educational. I’ve learned a lot. I feel like I know more, and I’m sure other listeners feel that same way. Thank you so much.  [0:28:31] Neil Shoney: Appreciate you. Thank you, Barbara.  [0:28:33] Dr. Barbara Hales: This has been another episode of Marketing Tips for Doctors with your host, Dr. Barbara Hales. Till next time.     The post Before You Buy Medical Ads first appeared on The Medical Strategist.

If your digital ads feel broken, it is because they are. This episode is a live recording from Localist Lab, the free monthly marketing event series for small business owners in Birmingham. Matt Robinson, Director of Advertising and Analytics at Uptick Marketing, takes the stage to walk a live audience through what has actually changed with Google Ads and Meta Ads in 2026, and what to do about it. Matt oversees digital advertising at Uptick Marketing and also serves as President of AMA Birmingham. Matt breaks down why you may be spending the same amount and getting less. Why cheaper cost per click is not the win it used to be. Why the platforms now treat your website as a data source just as much as your ads. What AI Max, Performance Max and Advantage Plus are actually doing on the back end, and why bad website content will burn your ad budget on them. He walks through what kinds of Facebook ads the platform is actually rewarding right now (us versus them, face to camera, product demos, testimonials, web experience, positioning tests, founder story), and why the answer is 20 plus ads a month, not a single perfect one. The second half covers tracking and AI-generated advice. Why tracking is broken and getting worse. Why to think directionally, not in exact dollar amounts. Why cutting your budget is the wrong reaction to rising costs. And why AI advice from Claude or ChatGPT can lead you off a cliff if you do not tell it your budget, your goals, what has worked and what has not, and demand it push back. If you run digital ads for your small business, this is a practical field guide. _______________________________________   Mentioned in This Episode    •       Uptick Marketing •       Infomedia •       Tempo Websites •       AMA Birmingham •       Google Ads •       Meta Ads •       Claude •       ChatGPT •       Google Gemini •       Uncle G's Pizza episode of The Localist •       Lady Bird Taco Thanks to Our Sponsor, Infomedia The Localist is sponsored by Infomedia. They are a Birmingham-based web and digital marketing company. They help small businesses grow online. •       Contact Infomedia    Join Us at Localist Lab Localist Lab is a free event series for small business owners. It meets on the third Thursday of most months at Saturn in Avondale. Free tacos and coffee too. •       See upcoming events and register   Subscribe to Carrie's Newsletter Want more small business tips from Carrie? Sign up for her newsletter. •       Sign up here

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Sean Stone of Spillover Commerce joins Mike to explain why most Amazon sellers fail when they try Meta ads and the fix: anchor your first campaign to a real event, not a generic sale. They break down a live case study: a Father's Day push that turned $8K in ad spend into $38K in sales for a brand whose Shopify site normally got 10 visitors a day. Topics include the offer ingredients you need, reverse-engineering winning ads from the Facebook Ad Library, avoiding creative fatigue, and building a year-round holiday calendar for your product. We'll see you in The PPC Den!

We sat down with another competitor, Tyler Hoyt of Fast Break Digital Media, to compare how two niche agencies can serve similar clients while building completely different businesses.Tyler explains how he grew from managing every account himself to running a lean team built around revenue share, contractors, a VA, and a setter. We talk about getting out of fulfillment, hiring people who are better than you, and dropping the belief that you need to control everything.We also break down the realities of selling Meta Ads, setting minimum budgets, getting clients to create video content, and turning away prospects who will not do their part. Tyler shares real numbers on lead costs, close rates, acquisition costs, pricing, and why organic social is still his strongest source of new business.Fast Break is now doing around $70,000 per month without a bloated team. This is an honest conversation about retention, seasonality, client expectations, and what agency owners can learn from the competitors doing good work beside them.-----MENTIONS IN THE EPISODE:Follow Tyler:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tyler-hoyt/Fast Break Digital Media:https://fastbreakdigitalmedia.com/-----RESOURCES:Want the tools and resources we recommend for agencies? Check them out here:https://www.agencygrowthpod.com/tools-----NEWSLETTERWant the show in your inbox? Sign up for the newsletter!https://www.agencygrowthpod.com/newsletter-----COMMUNITYLooking to join a community of agency owners? Join our Discord!https://discord.gg/uvHRRRFVRD-----CONTACTGot something to say? Send us a message:https://www.agencygrowthpod.com/contact

“I don't think our ads are any better.” Why are Meta click-through rates rising while conversion rates keep falling? Connor MacDonald (CMO, Ridge), Cody Plofker (CEO, Jones Road Beauty), and Connor Rolain (Head of Growth, HexClad) unpack why Meta ad performance has quietly shifted across ecommerce accounts. They break down Ridge's new chains launch and the merchandising lessons behind it, and debate whether TikTok Shop's affiliate program matters more than its storefront. Meta CPMs and click-through rates keep climbing across DTC accounts, even as conversion rates fall. The hosts respond with the exclusion settings and bid multipliers they are testing to fight back. From there, the conversation turns to Ridge's chains launch and the pricing lessons behind it. Powered By Motion Creative Benchmarks 2026 https://9ops.co/motionapp-creativebenchmarks2026 Richpanel https://9ops.co/richpanel-mops Aftersell https://9ops.co/aftersell-mops Haus https://www.haus.io/operators NeonPixel https://9ops.co/neonpixel Operators Newsletter https://9operators.com/ 

Join our community of App Founders: https://appfounders.co/Everyone is focused on growing installs inside the App Store, but the biggest opportunity for app developers in 2026 may actually start on the web.In this video, Steve P. Young breaks down why Web2App campaigns have become one of the fastest-growing acquisition and monetization strategies for mobile apps. From avoiding App Store fees to improving attribution, increasing cash flow, and unlocking more flexible pricing strategies, you'll learn why top app companies are investing heavily in web funnels.Steve also analyzes successful web2app funnels from companies like Coursiv, shares real conversion optimization examples, and explains the checkout strategies that are driving higher revenue today.If you're building a subscription app, AI app, SaaS product, or consumer mobile app, this is the web2app tutorial you can't afford to ignore.You'll learn:✅ Why Web-to-App is one of the fastest-growing acquisition channels✅ The best-performing Web2App landing page strategies✅ Why long-form paywalls outperform short ones on the web✅ Tripwire offers, upsells, and downsells that increase revenue✅ How to optimize Meta Ads and Google Ads for Web-to-App campaigns✅ Real examples from successful multi-million dollar app businessesWhether you're launching a new app or scaling an existing one, these strategies can help you grow downloads, improve monetization, and build a more sustainable app business.Check out: https://www.paddle.com/Want to work with us to grow your apps faster & efficiently?http://www.appmasters.com/You can also watch this video here: https://youtu.be/m5xmwkV4HgM*********************************************SPONSORSThe app growth playbook is changing fast.AppsFlyer's State of eCommerce App Marketing Report 2026 breaks down the latest trends, benchmarks, fraud insights, and market-by-market data every app marketer should know before planning Q4.Download it free from the link below: https://bit.ly/4uvoHGM*********************************************Tired of handing 30% of every in-game sale to iOS and Android billing systems? Appcharge is the DTC monetization platform trusted by King, Huuuge, Tripledot, and SciPlay – giving studios a direct line to their players, and up to 95% of every transaction. Web stores, payment links, and a full Merchant of Record service covering taxes, compliance, and global payments – all in one platform. Visit appcharge.com to learn more*********************************************Follow us:YouTube: ⁠AppMasters.com/YouTube⁠Instagram: ⁠@App MastersTwitter: ⁠@App MastersTikTok: ⁠@stevepyoung⁠Facebook: ⁠App Masters⁠*********************************************

Think ads are only for big businesses with big budgets? Think again, seamstresses! I am sitting down with Whitney and Daniela, the duo behind Wedding Industry Ads, who turned a shared wedding venue client into an agency serving wedding pros. With Whitney's 12 years in the wedding industry behind them, they break down how paid ads actually work for local, one-to-one service providers like bridal seamstresses — no viral reels, giant email lists, or midnight tears in the Meta Ads Manager required.In this episode:- Google Ads vs. Meta Ads — high-intent searches vs. relationship building, and which fits YOUR business- Why your ads might be reaching brides three states away ("expand my audience" is not your friend)- The truth about vanity metrics — likes don't pay for thread, bookings do- What happens AFTER the click: dedicated landing pages and follow-up systems that turn leads into fittings- Why ads + SEO give you independence beyond bridal shop referrals- Real results: one client saw ~60 leads and 10 booked weddings in 90 days from Google Ads- Budget talk: what $500/month gets you — and what just a couple dollars a day can do during busy seasonGrab their free Ads Investment Guide: https://weddingindustryads.com Follow them on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/weddingindustryadsConnect with Nadine:Check out the exclusive private podcast series, Fitting Packages 101: https://enchanting-sun-77080.myflodesk.com/privatepodcastBecome a member: https://secretsofabridalseamstresspodcast.com/membershipInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/secretsofabridalseamstress/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@nadinebozemanYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@secretsofabridalseamstress/

Patrick Coddou is my business partner and COO at AJF Growth. Follow and connect with him on X at https://x.com/soundslikecanoe.FOLLOW UP WITH ANDREWX: https://x.com/andrewjfarisEmail: podcast@ajfgrowth.comWork With AJF Growth: https://ajfgrowth.comMORE STAFFINGRecruit, onboard, and train incredible virtual professionals in the Philippines with my friends at More Staffing by visiting https://morestaffing.co/af.BEHIND THE SCENES STUDIOWork with the same Meta Ads creative production team that Andrew does with Behind The Scenes Studio, a More Staffing sister company: https://www.btsstudio.co/.

Want our guidance to build and run your own marketing engine? Book a call with our team: https://call.contractordynamics.com/yt?utm_source=YouTube&utm_medium=Description&utm_campaign=7.09.26Get our FREE marketing course for contractors here: https://course.contractordynamics.com?utm_source=YouTube&utm_medium=Description&utm_campaign=7.09.26If you've run Meta ads before (on your own or through an agency) and just can't get them to work anymore, this video is for you.Joseph Hughes opens up the actual Contractor Dynamics Meta Ads Manager, live, to show you what's really happening behind the scenes of a working campaign. This isn't theory. It's a real, live look at real ads, real spend, and real results.You'll learn why Meta's 2024 "Andromeda" algorithm update changed everything about how ads get tested and scaled, why creative diversity is now the single biggest factor in whether your ads work, and why judging an ad's performance too early can lead you to kill campaigns that just needed more of a chance.Key Takeaways for Contractors✔️ Why Meta ads that used to work easily don't work the same way anymore✔️ What the Andromeda algorithm update actually changed for advertisers✔️ Why creative diversity (not budget alone) is the key to winning with Meta today✔️ How to read cost-per-lead data without jumping to the wrong conclusion✔️ Why quality of leads matters more than quantity✔️ How to know when to scale a winning ad instead of guessingKey Timestamps0:00 Why Meta ads stopped working the way they used to2:07 The Andromeda update and what actually changed4:42 Live look inside the Contractor Dynamics Ads Manager7:44 Why one in 500 roofing companies have this figured out9:34 Reading cost per lead the right way13:48 Why underfunded ads look like they're failing (but aren't)17:00 How to scale once you know what's workingIf you want to learn how Contractor Dynamics helps roofing companies build tracking systems that connect marketing activity to revenue, watch this free video that walks through our entire system:https://www.contractordynamics.com/training/?utm_source=YouTube&utm_medium=Description&utm_campaign=7.09.26Ready to build a real Meta Ads machine for your company?Schedule a Marketing Demo with our team and we'll show you exactly what it takes, whether you want us to train your in-house team or run it all for you.

Stop guessing what's working! Grab your Marketing Performance Indicators™ checklist now: https://perpetualtraffic.com/mpi Are you making six-figure ad spend decisions with incomplete data? If you can't confidently explain which marketing channels are actually driving revenue, you're probably wasting budget without realizing it.In today's episode, I'm reviewing a real case study from one of our discovery calls: a nine-year-old, $13 million premium home wellness brand selling $10,000 to $20,000 systems. Their nCAC had climbed to $2,800 in the US, nearly double what they're paying in Canada, and most of their calls happen on the phone.I'm breaking down exactly what's driving that number up. I'll also walk through what we'll fix first, how we'll shift budget without tanking revenue, and why 30 creatives a month is the new baseline. If you want this kind of thing done for your business, head over to tiereleven.com/applyWhat you'll learn:- How rising nCAC signals a scaling problem in Meta Ads and Google Ads- Why high-ticket products require creative diversification to convert- How offline conversion tracking improves attribution accuracy- Why relying on Google demand capture eventually limits business growth- The importance of matching landing pages with ad creative- Why low-fi video ads often outperform polished brand commercials- How to structure top, middle, and bottom-of-funnel creative strategy- Why importing CRM and phone sales data strengthens ad optimization- How dedicated landing pages improve high-consideration conversion rates- The strategy for gradually shifting the budget from GoogleMentioned in the Episode:Previous Episode with Scott Desgrosseilliers from Wicked Reports: https://perpetualtraffic.com/podcast/episode-791-5-missed-forecasts-then-one-budget-shift-then-4-straight-hits/Examples of Facebook ads:https://bit.ly/PTFBAds1https://bit.ly/PTFBAds2Tier 11's Data Suite: https://www.tiereleven.com/what-we-do/data-suite Partner With Tier 11's Marketing Team: https://www.tiereleven.com/applyListen to Previous Perpetual Traffic Episodes: https://perpetualtraffic.com/ Wicked Reports Attribution Tool: https://www.wickedreports.com/ Listen to This Episode on Your Favorite Podcast Channel:Follow and listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/perpetual-traffic/id1022441491 Follow and listen on Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/59lhtIWHw1XXsRmT5HBAuK Subscribe and watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@perpetual_traffic?sub_confirmation=1We Appreciate Your Support!Visit our website: https://perpetualtraffic.com/ Connect with Ralph Burns: LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ralphburns Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/ralphhburns/ Hire Tier11 - https://www.tiereleven.com/applyMentioned in this episode:https://perpetualtraffic.com/advertise-with-us/https://perpetualtraffic.com/advertise-with-us/

Want to see how we help gyms get to $100K a month? Here's the plan the best gym owners are following right now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMPx7b3_LOA Your ads aren't failing because of your audience. They're failing because of nine fixable mistakes most gym owners don't even know they're making. And the agencies running those ads may not be telling you. You are probably paying your agency to do things that should never be their job. Strategy. Budget. Offer. Reporting. At $800 to $1,500 a month, they're a vendor built for execution, not decisions. The gyms spending the same money on ads but getting far better results have figured out where the line is. Mike sold his own ad agency two years ago after working with over 4,000 gyms worldwide. What he saw from the inside is exactly what most gym owners are still getting wrong on the outside. In this episode you'll learn: - Why hiring your agency for strategy, offer, and budget decisions is the first mistake that costs you the most - What "target ignorant" means and how to set a customer acquisition cost target that's actually tied to your numbers - How to track per-ad performance across leads, booked appointments, shows, and closed sales instead of total campaign results - Why the ad with the most leads is often not the ad you should be scaling - How to structure pre-meeting agendas and post-meeting summaries so your agency calls take 15 minutes instead of an hour - What a weak funnel surroundings setup costs you and how A/B testing landing pages and thank you pages changes outcomes - How to use AI chatbots and retargeting with 10 to 15 testimonial videos to keep warm leads moving forward - Why running one ad per ad set beats the popular single ad set model and how to give every ad equal playing time - The content metrics that actually predict ad performance, including skip rate targets between 30 and 40 percent - What a true campaign looks like when every channel, your ads, bio, posts, emails, chatbot, and texts, all point to the same offer - Why a weak offer is the fastest way to guarantee poor ad results and how to stack value around what you already give away - How to use lifetime value math to justify aggressive offers and calculate how much you should actually spend per customer If you've been blaming your agency or your market for results that are actually in your control, this episode is the mirror. Episode chapters: - 0:00 The cost of getting ads wrong - 1:57 Mistake 1 - Hiring your agency for the wrong job - 5:24 What to actually hire an agency for - 5:57 Mistake 2 - Being target ignorant - 6:45 How to set a real customer acquisition cost target - 8:58 Mistake 3 - Poor tracking - 9:47 How to track per ad across leads, books, shows, and closes - 12:57 Mistake 4 - Bad communication - 14:28 How to run agency meetings in 15 minutes - 17:35 Mistake 5 - Poor funnel surroundings - 18:30 A/B testing landing pages and thank you pages - 19:57 AI chatbots and retargeting with testimonials - 22:02 Mistake 6 - Poor ad structure - 22:52 One ad per ad set explained - 25:35 Mistake 7 - No content or weak content - 26:50 The metrics that actually matter in organic content - 29:45 Mistake 8 - No true campaign - 30:09 What it looks like when everything points to one offer - 32:44 Mistake 9 - Weak offer - 33:14 How to stack value and make your offer impossible to ignore - 34:43 Lifetime value math and what you can afford to spend ———————————————————————— The gyms growing past $100K a month aren't guessing on ads. They know their customer acquisition cost, they track per ad, they run a true campaign, and they make offers that scare them a little. That's the standard. Watch the plan behind it here. Watch the 100K Plan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMPx7b3_LOA Your agency probably isn't the problem. You might just be asking them to do the wrong job.

Alex Cooper is the CEO and Co-Founder of Parker and AdCrate. Follow and connect with him on X at https://x.com/alexgoughcooper.FOLLOW UP WITH ANDREWX: https://x.com/andrewjfarisEmail: podcast@ajfgrowth.comWork With AJF Growth: https://ajfgrowth.comBEHIND THE SCENES STUDIOWork with the same Meta Ads creative production team that Andrew does with Behind The Scenes Studio, a More Staffing sister company: https://www.btsstudio.co/.INTELLIGEMSIntelligems brings A/B testing to business decisions beyond copy and design. Test your pricing, shipping charges, free shipping thresholds, offers, SaaS tools, and more by clicking here: https://bit.ly/42DcmFl. Get 20% off the first 3 months with code FARIS20.

Y'all, this one is going to light a fire under you.Brittney Roberts spent over a decade as a jack-of-all-trades freelancer, strictly hourly, wearing every hat, and after childcare she was making almost nothing. One year she looked at her taxes and saw $18,000. That was the wake-up call.In this student spotlight, Brittney shares the exact pivot that took her from $18K a year to over six figures as a freelance ad manager, all while moving across the country, homeschooling three energetic boys, and living in temporary housing. This is proof of what's possible when you stop doing everything for everyone and go all in on the right thing.In this episode, you'll learn:Why being a jack of all trades is quietly keeping you stuck at low incomeThe exact moment Brittney decided to go all in on Meta ads (and why she waited too long to fully pivot)How to reach back out to past clients when you change your servicesThe strategist trifecta: three package types that grow your revenue without more retainer clientsHow Brittney structures her VIP days into two simple sessionsThe two-or-three-needle-movers daily habit that protects her timeWhy working nights and weekends is not the problem (and when it actually is)The Voxer stat that shocked Brandi: members who vox weekly all doubled their business or moreMentioned in this episode:Strategist Society: https://thestrategistsociety.comConversions for Clients (for early-stage freelancers): https://conversionsforclients.comDM Brandi the word SCALE on Instagram: https://instagram.com/brandimowlesBook mentioned: "Trust Me, I'm Lying" by Ryan HolidayReady to scale past $10K months?If you're ready to be in the room with women like Brittney, with real community and one-on-one Voxer support behind you, head to thestrategistsociety.com and apply. We'll jump on a call and see if it's a fit.Loved this episode?Share it with one friend who needs to hear it, and tag @brandimowles so I can see it.Now go do the dang thing.Follow the Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/serve-scale-soar/id1477998650Follow Brandi on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/brandimowlesFollow Brandi on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Brandiandcompany

Most app founders think growth is limited by creatives, ASO, or ad performance.But there's another problem that quietly kills scale: cash flow.In this video, I break down the biggest bottleneck many indie app developers face when scaling with Apple Search Ads, Meta Ads, or any paid acquisition channel, and why waiting 45+ days for Apple and Google payouts can prevent you from growing faster.You'll Learn:✅ Why profitable apps still run out of cash✅ A real example from our own app portfolio✅ How spending $9,000 generated over $10,800 in proceeds✅ Why many large apps operate with thin margins✅ How to reinvest revenue faster instead of waiting for monthly payouts✅ How Adapt Finance helps subscription apps unlock cash flow weekly✅ A case study of a developer scaling from $5K to $80K in revenueIf you're building a subscription app and trying to scale with paid acquisition, understanding cash flow may be even more important than finding the next winning ad creative.

Ross Beyeler is the VP of Business Intelligence at Zaelab, a B2B digital consultancy that helps manufacturers and enterprise organizations modernize the customer experience. In his role, Ross leads data, analytics, and business intelligence strategy, helping organizations translate complex operational and financial data into actionable insights that improve profitability and decision-making. With experience in e-commerce, agency operations, and data-driven growth, he also founded and led multiple companies.  In this episode… Most companies assume growth is just a matter of getting more customers, but the real story is often buried inside their numbers. Revenue can look strong while profitability quietly erodes through hidden costs, misaligned incentives, and decisions that don't show up on a surface-level dashboard. If your business is growing but margins aren't improving, what are you missing? According to profitability expert Ross Beyeler, the key is learning to read a business through its contribution margin rather than top-line revenue alone. He emphasizes separating new customer acquisition from retention-driven growth, since each carries very different cost structures and long-term impact. Ross also advises leaders to scrutinize return rates, software spend, and fixed-versus-variable cost decisions, because these often determine whether scaling improves profit. Leaders should remain close to the organization through skip-level conversations and direct visibility into teams, so they don't lose touch with operations. The companies that win are the ones that understand what drives profit, not just what drives activity. In this episode of the Up Arrow Podcast, William Harris chats with Ross Beyeler, VP of Business Intelligence at Zaelab, about how to uncover hidden profit drivers in growing businesses. Ross discusses P&L analysis beyond revenue, customer acquisition versus retention economics, and why over-optimization can distort decision-making. He also breaks down post-acquisition integration challenges and how founders can stay connected to the operations.