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It's not easy to make people rethink their assumptions. If you want to shift perception, you need to challenge expectations, gently, cleverly, and sometimes with a perfectly executed deepfake.That's the brilliance of Orange's Women's Soccer Ad, a mind-bending celebration of women's soccer disguised as a highlight reel of men's soccer. And in this episode, we're decoding its genius with the help of Angie Westbrock, CEO of Standard AI.Together, we explore what B2B marketers can learn from surprising your audience, staying true to both your brand and your customer, and not allowing biases to affect your content.About our guest, Angie WestbrockAngie Westbock's mission is to build high-performance, diverse teams that transform challenges into opportunities. With a solid background as COO and now CEO, she thrives on aligning our company's strengths to create impactful solutions, all while cultivating a culture that celebrates diversity and encourages groundbreaking ideas.Angie is currently serving as the CEO at Standard AI, a startup using AI and computer vision technology to help retailers and brands optimize operations and bottom lines through real-time insights into shoppers' in-store experiences. With a non-traditional background beginning in CPG and then moving into tech, her experience spans from stealth start-ups to IPO to Fortune 500 companies. Leveraging this expertise in commercialization strategy and growth, Angie is able to guide organizations through every phase of development. What B2B Companies Can Learn From Orange's Women's Soccer Ad:Surprise your audience. Great marketing can earn attention through clever misdirection, then deliver a powerful payoff. The Orange ad didn't just say women's sports deserve respect,  it showed it by tricking viewers into watching with existing bias, then rewiring their perception. Angie explains, “Had they not executed the deepfake as well as they did, you would've noticed it from the beginning, and it would've just validated any of the biases that were already there.” The same applies to B2B: stop announcing your message, design it to unfold in a way that surprises and engages.Technology isn't the story; the outcome is. Orange used advanced deepfake technology, but they never made that the headline. The ad wasn't about AI, it was about bias, identity, and respect. The technology was the tool, not the message. “We always try to  tie it to the customer's use cases and ROI versus just about the tech,” says Angie. This is a trap many B2B companies fall into. You're proud of your tech stack, your infrastructure, your proprietary model, and rightly so. But your buyer doesn't care. They care about what your product helps them become. Sell the before and after, not the engine.Don't let your biases affect your content. Too many B2B marketers create content for the people who already agree with them, existing customers, internal stakeholders, or the "safe" ICP. But powerful messaging challenges assumptions. Orange didn't make an ad to celebrate women's soccer for people who already love it, they made an ad to get skeptics to pause and rethink. Angie says, “It wasn't just to the women to honor them and to empower them. It was actually to the men also, to say, you need to revisit your thinking here.” In B2B, you're often selling change: a new workflow, a new tool, a new way of doing things. That means your messaging needs to meet people where they are, not where you wish they were. Quote“ We get so caught up in what we want to say that we don't take into consideration the very specific viewpoints of the customer that you're selling to and making sure that it's going to land with them in a way that aligns with how they're thinking.Time Stamps[00:55] Meet Angie Westbrock, [01:00] Why Orange's Women's Soccer Ad [01:50] What Standard AI Actually Does[05:33] Why Physical Retail Is Still Underrated[11:38] Designed for Rewatching and Social[13:51] Real Tech, Real Players, Real Impact[14:55] Messaging That Reaches the People Who Need to Hear It[21:59] B2B Marketing Takeaways from Why Orange's Women's Soccer Ad [34:38] Not a Cheap Trick — A Trusted Brand Moment[38:13] It All Starts With a Single Shift in Mindset[40:00] What Marketers Want From In-Store Strategy[47:41] Standard AI's Brand Strategy and Differentiation[52:40] Final Thoughts: Break Through the NoiseLinksConnect with Angie on LinkedInLearn more about Standard AIAbout Remarkable!Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction and fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at CaspianStudios.com. In today's episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.

This week, join Peter and Chris as they deep dive into the ninth track off Freek Show by Twiztid, "All I Ever Wanted" featuring Shaggy 2Dope and Violent J of the Insane Clown Posse, along with Twiztid's 2025 Version! Sit back and listen as they dissect the lyrics and content of the track, discuss Molotov cocktails, talk about Picker Forest, and tackle important topics like how tall Mr. Mutant X really is!      TIME STAMPS! 0:00:00 (Start)    0:16:21 (Tale of the Tape)    0:24:01 (Lyrical Deep Dive)    0:54:56 (Video / Twiztid's Version)    1:09:11 (Starting to Wrap Up)    1:15:28 (Final Credits)      The LinkTree can be found at https://linktr.ee/juggalorwd. Otherwise here are all of our links -  Twitter/X: @JuggaloRWD  IG: @JuggaloRWD  Facebook: @JuggaloRWD  TikTok: @JuggaloRWD  Threads: @JuggaloRWD  BlueSky: @JuggaloRWD  The website is www.JuggaloRewind.com.  Join us on the ICPWWE Discord and talk to other listeners and podcast hosts about Psychopathic Records, ICP, Twiztid and random juggalo nonsense.  Email us at juggalorwd@gmail.com or call/text us at (810) 666-1570.        Join our Patreon! For only FOUR DOLLARS a month, you can join Kilnore's Army and get at least two bonus episodes per month and more! Become an official member of the Phat or Wack Pack today! -- Juggalo Rewind Patreon.      Additional music provided by Steve O of the IRTD. Voiceover work provided by Christmas. The Rewind is forever powered by the 20x20 Apparel.   All music played is owned by the respective publishers and copywrite holders and is reproduced for review purposes only under fair use. Thank you to Majik Ninja Entertainment for allowing us to bring this podcast to all of the juggalos worldwide. #ForTheJuggaloCulture

SummaryOn this episode of the ATX DAO Podcast, we chat with Kyle Langham of DFINITY about the Internet Computer Protocol (ICP) and its mission to become a decentralized “world computer.” Kyle explains how ICP lets developers host entire applications fully on chain including front end, back end, and data while integrating directly with Bitcoin, Ethereum, and Solana. We cover the role of canisters, subnets for scaling, and how ICP's threshold signature technology brings smart contract functionality to Bitcoin.The conversation also explores Caffeine AI, a new tool that allows anyone to build and launch apps on ICP using natural language prompts. Kyle shares how he created a Bitcoin-powered arcade game in under an hour and why low-code tools could reshape the future of DeFi, GameFi, and Web3 app development. If you are curious about blockchain interoperability, decentralized infrastructure, or the next wave of user-friendly Web3 tools, this episode is for you.Chapters00:00 Introduction to Internet Computer and DFINITY03:31 Decentralization and the World Computer Vision06:13 Integration with Other Blockchains08:50 Building on Bitcoin and the Future of ICP11:35 Caffeine AI: Bridging Web2 and Web314:29 The Future of Application Development24:48 Exploring Caffeine's Features and Business Models26:15 Innovative Subscription Models in Crypto28:35 Interoperability and Context Engineering in Web 329:58 Trusting AI in Crypto Transactions32:02 User Experience in Crypto and ICP Projects34:36 Understanding Subnets and Canisters in ICP38:30 Kyle's Journey into Crypto and DFINITYConnect with Kyle and Dfinity / Internet Computer:X (Twitter): ⁠⁠@kylelangham | @dfinityWebsite: https://internetcomputer.orgCheck out our friends at Tequila 512:Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.tequila512.com⁠⁠Socials: ⁠⁠X (Twitter)⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠TikTok⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠Facebook⁠To learn more about ATX DAO:Check out the ⁠ATX DAO ⁠websiteFollow ⁠@ATXDAO⁠ on X (Twitter)Subscribe to our newsletterConnect with us on ⁠LinkedIn⁠Join the community in the ⁠ATX DAO Discord⁠Connect with the ATX DAO Podcast team on X (Twitter):Ash:  ⁠@ashinthewild⁠Luke: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@Luke152⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Support the Podcast:If you enjoyed this episode, please leave us a review and share it with your network.Subscribe for more insights, interviews, and deep dives into the world of Web 3.

In this episode of the Child Psych Podcast, we speak with Dr. Michelle Sherman, clinical psychologist and co-author of "I'm Not Alone" a powerful book written for teens who have a parent with mental illness. Dr. Sherman shares insights from decades of research and clinical work, shedding light on the unique challenges these teens face- and the hope, resilience, and healing that's possible.We talk about how to help young people understand mental health, the importance of open conversations within families, and ways to strengthen connection, build coping skills, and foster a sense of safety and support. This episode is a compassionate guide for caregivers, educators, and professionals supporting children navigating life with a parent who is struggling.Click here to purchase "I'm Not Alone: A Teen's Guide to Living with a Parent Who Has a Mental Illness or History of Trauma,Wanting more from ICP? Get 50 % off our annual membership with the coupon code: PODCAST5090+ courses on parenting and children's mental healthPrivate community where you can feel supportedWorkbooks, parenting scripts, and printablesMember-only Webinars Course Certificates for Continuing EducationAccess to our Certification ProgramLive Q & A Sessions for Parents & ProfesssionalsBi-Annual Parenting & Mental Health ConferencesDownloadable Social Media CollectionRobust Resource LibraryClick here for more Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Send us a textIn this episode we interview Ethan Prete, a seasoned marketer with a consulting background and a data-first mindset, known for transforming scattered marketing efforts into strategic systems that actually drive results.What you'll learn in this episode:Why most marketers waste time on broad targeting—and how to fix itHow to build a real ICP using actual closed-won data (not guesses)The “dating app” analogy that will reshape how you think about customer targetingWhy thinking like a private equity firm leads to better marketing decisionsTactics for getting internal access to valuable data—even without technical skillsHow to influence RevOps, sales, and C-suite teams through aligned metricsThe mindset shift marketers need to eliminate bad campaigns without ego

Sal Vulcano sits in Bobby's chair for the day and hears about Big Jay's adventures at The Gathering of the Juggalos. The yearly festival for Insane Clown Posse fans never disappoints with debauchery. Jay performed stand-up comedy along with Luis J Gomez, Tim Butterly, and Zac Amico. A clown comic named Upchuck got booed and assaulted with flying objects. A very old lady was there to have sex with the Juggalos and create content. Jay has video of some of the festivities including a beauty pageant that ended with a vile act conducted on dead poultry. Catch Sal on the "Everything's Fine Tour" and for info on his new podcast go to: Salvulcanocomedy.com. *To hear the full show to go www.siriusxm.com/bonfire to learn more! FOLLOW THE CREW ON SOCIAL MEDIA: @thebonfiresxm @louisjohnson @christinemevans @bigjayoakerson @robertkellylive @louwitzkee @jjbwolf Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of The Bonfire ad-free and a whole week early.  Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus.

Copy and paste content doesn't build a connection. If you want your brand to resonate, you need to go deeper, more human, more emotional, more real.That's executed perfectly by The Last of Us, a post-apocalyptic story that became a global phenomenon not because of monsters, but because of its heart. In this episode, we're taking a closer look with the help of our special guest, Ashley Emery, CMO at VelocityEHS.Together, we explore what B2B marketers can learn from emotional storytelling, breaking traditional formats, and building real resonance with your audience (even in the most unexpected places).About our guest, Ashley EmeryAshley excels in driving growth and innovation in B2B technology organizations, both at the global enterprise and high-growth start-up scale. She holds an Executive MBA and specializes in demand generation and revenue-focused marketing strategies. Ashley has a proven track record of building and leading high-performing marketing teams, having served as Head of Global Campaigns for the Database and Analytics category at AWS, VP of Marketing at Emburse, and most recently, the SVP of Demand Generation at Employ, the parent company of JazzHR, Jobvite, and Lever.What B2B Companies Can Learn From The Last of Us:Story comes before product. In B2B, it's easy to get stuck in the habit of leading with features, capabilities, or technical specs. But as The Last of Us demonstrates, what draws people in is a story they care about, not a list of innovations. Your product may be powerful, but unless your audience understands how it impacts their world or identity, it won't matter. Center the narrative on the customer's journey, pain, and outcome, your product plays a supporting role in that transformation. This shift can completely reframe how you approach content, ads, and even your brand voice. Ashley advises, “Lead with a human-centric storytelling. Don't sell features… the product is the enabler, it's not the hero.”Your audience might not be who you think. “Even if you think you understand your audience, you may not,” said Ashley, who was surprised herself, as she was so drawn to the series. Just as The Last of Us broke out of its presumed “gamer” audience, B2B brands often have unexpected buyers, champions, or influencers they're missing. Assumptions based on firmographics or industry stereotypes can be limiting. VelocityEHS found that their safety-focused customers were actually risk-tolerant thrill-seekers outside of work, which changed how they positioned messaging. This is a call to continuously validate personas, run qualitative interviews, and listen for nuance. Your best buyers may not look like your ICP on paper.The medium shapes the message. It's not enough to have a great story, you have to tailor it to the channel and format. A 60-minute podcast moment doesn't automatically become a good TikTok. Just like a video game plot doesn't translate directly into a TV script, B2B content has to be rewritten for the medium it's living in. That means writing social hooks, designing natively for mobile, and assuming low context. Ian reminds us that, “-if you take an idea that Ashley says in minute 50 of a podcast and drop it onto LinkedIn, and the person has no context at all who this person is or what they do, then the actual insight itself isn't as interesting or valuable.” Meet your audience where they are, mentally, emotionally, and contextually, or risk wasting great content on the wrong canvas.Quotes“Often in marketing, we get scared of emotion. We try to stay very neutral in our language. We don't want to be provocative, we don't want to be bold, and I think we as humans crave that. The show is a perfect example. The boldness, the emotional connection, and the conflict of the characters was really valuable. There's so much raw emotion and connection in the stories that could be told, and not being afraid to tell an uncomfortable story… is powerful.”Time Stamps[00:55] Meet Ashley Emery, CMO at VelocityEHS.[00:56] Why The Last of Us?[01:42] The Role of CMO at VelocityEHS[02:48] Breaking Down The Last of Us[26:47] B2B Marketing Lessons from The Last of Us[27:36] Human-Centric Storytelling in Marketing[35:16 Understanding Your Audience[38:43] Building an Ecosystem of Content[40:20] The Importance of Star Power[42:14] Embracing Emotional Tension in Marketing[46:11] Final Thoughts & TakeawaysLinksConnect with Ashley on LinkedInLearn more about VelocityEHSAbout Remarkable!Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction and fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at CaspianStudios.com. In today's episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.

#276 Career Growth | Dave is joined by Kady Srinivasan, CMO at You.com, an AI-first company building infrastructure for enterprise agents. Kady has led marketing at some of the world's most recognizable companies, including Dropbox, Klaviyo, and Lightspeed, where she scaled teams, drove massive revenue growth, and navigated ICP pivots. Now, she's bringing that experience into the fast-changing world of AI.Dave and Kady cover:How to evolve as a CMO across industries, personas, and business modelsThe three core systems CMOs need to scale teams and drive alignmentHow AI is reshaping marketing roles, workflows, and the skills future CMOs will needYou'll walk away with lessons you can apply to your own career, no matter what market or role you're in.Timestamps(00:00) - – Intro (03:03) - – From engineer to reluctant marketer (05:37) - – Gaming years and “coolest mom” cred (07:52) - – The story behind You.com's domain (09:31) - – Why she jumped into AI (12:00) - – Reinventing yourself as a CMO (14:00) - – Fundamentals that never change in marketing (16:13) - – Aligning marketing with company strategy (19:24) - – Pivoting the ICP at Lightspeed (22:26) - – Lessons on cross-functional alignment (25:08) - – Letting go to grow as a leader (27:53) - – Systems every CMO should set up (34:43) - – Why no single playbook works (36:24) - – How AI is reshaping marketing roles (51:04) - – Building an AI-first marketing org and closing thoughts Send guest pitches and ideas to hi@exitfive.comJoin the Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterCheck out the Exit Five job board: https://jobs.exitfive.com/Become an Exit Five member: https://community.exitfive.com/checkout/exit-five-membership***Today's episode is brought to you by Walnut.Why are we pouring all this effort into marketing just to push buyers to a “request a demo” or “contact sales” button?Come on, today's buyers don't want to talk to sales right away. They want to explore your product themselves, see how it works, and understand its value before booking a meeting.That's where Walnut comes in.Walnut empowers marketers and GTM teams to create interactive, self-guided product experiences in minutes. Embed these experiences on your site, in emails, or anywhere in your funnel to let buyers engage on their terms, from awareness to close and beyond. That's the beauty of Walnut - you're getting a platform that your sales and CS colleagues can use to showcase the product too.And the best part? You get real intent data—see which features prospects love, where they drop off, and what's actually driving pipeline. Demo Qualified Leads are the new MQL.Over 500 companies, like Adobe and NetApp, use Walnut to drive 2-3x higher website conversion rates and 7 figures in pipeline on a yearly basis. So do you want to drive more leads, shorten sales cycles, and actually show your product instead of hiding it behind another typical B2B CTA? Go check out Walnut.io. And if you tell them Dave from Exit 5 sent you, they'll build out your first demo for free!

The people of Northern Gaza are starving. That's according to an official declaration by a United Nations-backed group of experts, who comprise the Integrated Food Security Phase Classification or IPC. They say that famine has officially reached Gaza city and could soon reach other areas of the territory.Still, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has says there is no famine in Gaza, and that food shortages are the result of Hamas seizing aid shipments.Jean-Martin Bauer is the director of Food Security and Nutrition Analysis for the World Food Program. He explains how the ICP came to this conclusion and what the declaration means for the people facing starvation. For sponsor-free episodes of Consider This, sign up for Consider This+ via Apple Podcasts or at plus.npr.org. Email us at considerthis@npr.org.This episode was produced by Michael Levitt, with audio engineering by Hannah Gluvna. It was edited by Courtney Dorning. Our executive producer is Sami Yenigun.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

Dru Montana and Gina Hyena join Zac Amico and discuss Zac surviving The Gathering and the craziest things he saw there, things they've been hit by on stage, how carbonation works, why McDonald's soda is better, the Theo Von audience member kicked out of a show, the best tourettes, rapper King Yella passing out during a podcast, Cambridge adding ridiculous words to the dictionary and so much more!(Air Date: August 18th, 2025)Support our sponsors!SmallBatchCigar.com - Use promo code: GAS10 for 10% off plus 5% bonus points!YoKratom.com - Check out Yo Kratom (the home of the $60 kilo) for all your kratom needs!BodyBrainCoffee.com - Use promo code: ZOO15 to get 15% off!Zac Amico's Morning Zoo plug music can be found here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMgQJEcVToY&list=PLzjkiYUjXuevVG0fTOX4GCTzbU0ooHQ-O&ab_channel=BulbyTo advertise your product or service on GaS Digital podcasts please go to TheADSide.com and click on "Advertisers" for more information!Submit your artwork via postal mail to:GaS Digital Networkc/o Zac's Morning Zoo151 1st Ave, #311New York, NY 10003You can sign up at GaSDigital.com with promo code: ZOO for a discount of $1.50 on your subscription and access to every Zac Amico's Morning Zoo show ever recorded! On top of that you'll also have the same access to ALL the shows that GaS Digital Network has to offer!Follow the whole show on social media!Dru MontanaWebsite: www.DamienSperanza.comInstagram: https://instagram.com/Dru_MontanaGina HyenaTwitter: https://twitter.com/EggsNHotSauceInstagram: https://instagram.com/EggsNHotSauceZac AmicoTwitter: https://twitter.com/ZASpookShowInstagram: https://instagram.com/zacisnotfunnyDates: https://punchup.live/ZacAmicoSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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THE SIXTH JOKERS CARD IS UPON US! In this episode, we review ICP's 2025 album THE NAUGHT! We also recap the 2025 Gathering of the Juggalos, and we reveal the future of this show. This is a big episode, becuase it's a BIG episode!If you want to interact with us, send us messages, follow us, support us, or join our community, check out the links on our WEBSITE.Check out DO IT FOR THE UNDERGROUND (DIFTUG), Robbie's underground rap and horrorcore focused news show on YouTube, HERE

This week, join Peter and Chris as they deep dive into the eighth track off Freek Show by Twiztid, "People Are Strange" along with the original by The Doors and Twiztid's 2025 Version! Sit back and listen as they dissect the lyrics and content of the track, discuss Juggalo covers, talk about Friday nights in Detroit, and tackle important topics like forming some Juggin on Jugg bands!      TIME STAMPS! 0:00:00 (Start)    0:21:54 (Tale of the Tape)    0:37:42 (Other Covers of People are Strange)    0:44:50 (Lyrical Deep Dive)    0:53:12 (Video / Twiztid's Version)    1:02:32 (Starting to Wrap Up)    1:06:22 (Final Credits)      The LinkTree can be found at https://linktr.ee/juggalorwd. Otherwise here are all of our links -  Twitter/X: @JuggaloRWD  IG: @JuggaloRWD  Facebook: @JuggaloRWD  TikTok: @JuggaloRWD  Threads: @JuggaloRWD  BlueSky: @JuggaloRWD  The website is www.JuggaloRewind.com.  Join us on the ICPWWE Discord and talk to other listeners and podcast hosts about Psychopathic Records, ICP, Twiztid and random juggalo nonsense.  Email us at juggalorwd@gmail.com or call/text us at (810) 666-1570.        Join our Patreon! For only 5 bucks a month, you can join Kilnore's Army and get at least two bonus episodes per month and more! Become an official member of the Phat or Wack Pack today! -- Juggalo Rewind Patreon.      Additional music provided by Steve O of the IRTD. Voiceover work provided by Christmas. The Rewind is forever powered by the 20x20 Apparel.   All music played is owned by the respective publishers and copywrite holders and is reproduced for review purposes only under fair use. Thank you to Majik Ninja Entertainment for allowing us to bring this podcast to all of the juggalos worldwide. #ForTheJuggaloCulture

Kiera is joined by Zaneta Hamlin, owner and founder of Cusp Dental Boutique. Zaneta, who built her practice from the ground up, shares with Kiera her journey, reflecting on what got her to this point and what she would've changed and focused more on if she were to start over again. Plus, Zaneta talks about how she's turned even the smallest items and exchanges into branding opportunities for her practice. Episode resources: Subscribe to The Dental A-Team podcast Schedule a Practice Assessment Leave us a review Transcript: Kiera Dent (00:00) Hello, Dental A Team listeners. This is Kiera and today I am so giddy. I have one of my favorite humans in the entire world. Like that is not an exaggeration. She's got a million dollar smile. She's one of the funniest people I've ever met. She makes me laugh all the time. She really does. Like Zaneta when you smile, is the world just makes like it's just a happier place. Zaneta Hamlin, one of my favorite doctors. This woman can brand like nobody's business. Surprise fact, I even have her all of her branding sitting here. I have her stickers.   I love the business card. That was my favorite thing that you added in for me was a business card for me. But Zaneta Hamlin, one of our clients, one of my faves, welcome to the podcast today. How's your day today?   Zaneta Hamlin (00:39) Great, how are you? I'm happy to be here in the chat.   Kiera Dent (00:43) I'm so happy to have you. My day has been amazing. It's been podcast day and by far my favorite podcast is you today. So I'm really, really excited because I have wanted this podcast to come out for so long. So Zaneta I don't want to like do you a disservice. I just said a few things as to why I wanted you to come on the podcast. Like I said, being a part of our community, I just watch you and something I've noticed about you since literally the day one is you dress incredibly well and you're always branded. Like you're a walking   machine of branding every event I've seen you at you have Cusp Dental I know where you are I know your colors you have everything branded you think so intentionally but you're just an amazing human so Zaneta kind of tell us and honestly I want to go with you and do ⁓ dentistry in other countries that's something that you and I are gonna do outside of that so to fill our listeners in a little bit Zaneta kind of walk them through who is Zaneta Hamlin how did you get to be into Cusp Dental just kind of give us a little background on who you are the dentistry you do   Zaneta Hamlin (01:29) Absolutely.   Kiera Dent (01:40) Whatever you feel like sharing, this is Zaneta's time. And I want everybody to get to know you because you're just an amazing human. So walk us through, how did you get from where you were to where you are today?   Zaneta Hamlin (01:46) Bye.   So am   a second generation dentist. ⁓ I started off as an associate. I went to my dad's alma mater, went to Howard University College of Dentistry around this area in the Virginia Beach Hampton Roads area. I would say Howard is the real HU, so that's going to probably offend some people great. Yes, yes.   Kiera Dent (02:01) Amazing.   That's okay. She's here for it. There's no shame. Zenita, this is your podcast. You get to say whatever you want   today. No filtered.   Zaneta Hamlin (02:19) yeah. So second gen dentist, ⁓ I started off as an associate. So I associated for about nine years, ⁓ until I, ⁓ birthed the idea for Cusp Dental Boutique. It was initially going to be an acquisition. That was the plan I was with, ⁓ coaching prior, but it was more, it was geared more towards, ⁓ acquisitions and   That didn't work out for me. ⁓ just, everything just didn't work out. And the type of practice that I was looking to create ⁓ just didn't fit in the other practices. So ⁓ my husband actually found the space that we are in ⁓ and we just built it from scratch. It was a shell. ⁓ And then we have Cusp Dental Boutique. Now, ⁓ yeah, I do like to brand. So.   Kiera Dent (03:12) That's amazing.   Zaneta Hamlin (03:17) you   Kiera Dent (03:17) Please do, I want you   to, because I also hope people hear, like I said, I brought you on for a reason, Zaneta. This is where I want you to brag. I want you to share about who you are, because I think so often we don't, and so many times dentists feel they're doing it all alone. So trying to bring different dentists, different perspectives. So brag, Zaneta, I'm gonna brag about you too. So this is your show, brag as you should.   Zaneta Hamlin (03:38) I do love my practice. I love how we do things differently. There's a lot of technology. mean, lately I've had a few temps in my office. And so just having the temps has shown me how much my office does that others don't. And so, the expectations are bit higher with what they should do. ⁓ But everyone comes in and like, my gosh, this doesn't feel like a dental office. doesn't smell like a dental office.   ⁓ even the swag they get is different. Now, yeah, I'll give the Cusp Dental Boutique chapstick or things like that, but the koozies, the ⁓ wine tumblers, because you can have wine. ⁓ I think one of the things that you might be referring to is ⁓ my luggage ⁓ cover.   Kiera Dent (04:18) Why not? Why not?   Yes. Yes.   Zaneta Hamlin (04:30) I   do have that because look, your bags, when you check a bag, even if you are rolling, like it's carry on, people see it as you're dragging it wherever. So it's advertising, you know, they might be in a different state. You might come visit Virginia Beach. You what? I was on a flight to Detroit and I saw, you know, this Cusp Dental Boutique. I want to see where that is. Maybe they have an emergency. Top of mind.   Kiera Dent (04:37) Mm-hmm.   don't   disagree with you. This is why I brought you on the podcast because the way you think about branding and advertising, like I remember meeting you first at this conference and like you're repping it. Like you've got your Cusp Dental Boutique and it makes me so happy because that's also, think why you do so well in your practice. Like you love what you've built. You can see the love and the passion and the pieces. Yeah. The luggage. just wrote it down. Dental A Team needs to freaking put those on because we travel everywhere. Think of how many dentists are traveling to conferences and we are not branding. So   Zaneta Hamlin (05:22) All the time, yes.   Kiera Dent (05:27) Dental A Team, if you're listening, which most of them do, ⁓ surprise, maybe it'll be your holiday present. Shelbi, we need to get these. So, you know, there we go. Yeah, it's brilliant.   Zaneta Hamlin (05:33) There we go.   They are great.   Nobody's gonna rep your brand better than you. So if you aren't proud of it, you know, so you gotta rep it. And yeah, I put it on anything. We went, ⁓ our family went on a Disney cruise, our first ever Disney cruise. And I just randomly saw, cause ⁓ a sorority sister of mine told me we need those ⁓ clips for your beach chair to put your towel on so it doesn't fly away.   Kiera Dent (05:45) Mm-hmm. I love it.   ⁓   right. Of course. Of course you can.   Zaneta Hamlin (06:03) Well, I happen to find there are stretchy versions, like ⁓ elastic versions, and you can customize them. So of course, mine, one side says   Cusp Dental Boutique, the other side says Cusp Untethered. So either way, you're getting something. And it went on. So on the Disney Cruise, you could see four chairs. Cusp Dental Boutique, Cusp Untethered. You know.   Kiera Dent (06:19) Something.   Amazing.   It's incredible. So, okay. So I think Zaneta, something that you do so well is you built this practice. And I mean, even, I think people seeing the clips of this online, I mean, you doesn't even look like you're sitting in a dental practice. Like you're in this very different vibe, different feel. So walk me through how has it been being an owner? And then I want to go through like what have been the struggles, what have been the good things? Like you have this amazing space, people you've got raving fans.   Like you have built this boutique dental practice, which I think is so great to stand out when I think dentistry has been a little bit tricky. And I think you're doing a great job of that. And then we're going to pivot to like some of your favorite brand. I mean, she's already listed her luggage covers. can like literally Zaneta. feel like if there's something she can put a logo on, she will like, it is like, Oh, I could put this here. I could have a bracelet. I mean, your jacket, I guarantee you there's a Cusp Dental pin. I guarantee. Yep.   Zaneta Hamlin (07:15) Really.   yeah,   I mean the back of my jean jacket says untethered on it.   Kiera Dent (07:26) It's all there. She's constantly, it's constant. Like Zaneta, I think you are one of the few people that thinks in their branding so much that it is a part of you. It's what you do. It's who you are. It's not like I'm Zaneta and here's work and here's Zaneta. It's I am these pieces. So walk me through, you started this scratch start. How's it been going?   Zaneta Hamlin (07:27) The symbol is right there.   you   Kiera Dent (07:50) The wins, the stresses, the struggles, like where are you at on the business ownership path?   Zaneta Hamlin (07:56) I mean, there have been ups and downs. I will be very honest and frank about that. I've never been a business owner. So this is my first kick at it. ⁓ But I'm very frank with my team, like, hey, guys, I'm learning too. And I rely on them to also give me their feedback. Now, I always take it into consideration. It doesn't always mean like, hey, we're going to do what you recommended this time around. But I do like to listen to them and see what they think, because they have great ideas. But you won't know unless you actually listen to them.   It's been up and down. Like when people opt to leave the practice to go somewhere for whatever reason, ⁓ I've taken it personally in the past. Now, ⁓ my gosh, I mean, hopefully Dana has seen how much I've grown in that department.   Kiera Dent (08:38) I was,   I would agree. Dana's been coaching you for quite a while and Zenita, I will even say not being in the day to day with you all the time, you have grown exponentially. It used to be this, I remember being in the Dr. Masterminds, different places. It was just this like complete stress. And I feel like you have definitely grown as a business owner, as a leader, and I'm really proud of you. And you seem happier, but you still haven't lost your flair of like loving your practice. Like it didn't jade you even though it stressed you out. And agree, Dana, Dana will for sure be watching this and she will be so proud of you.   She already is, but you have definitely grown in the time that we have known you. And I'm really proud of you because I don't think everybody does grow. Some people just stay stagnant, but you have wanted to grow. You've wanted to evolve. You listen to what people say. You've made friends in our community. You and Christie have become BFFs. Christie Moore, she's been on the podcast too. Super excited to hang out in person, but you do a good job of executing and implementing Zenita. You're very humble. You're very coachable. And you're also just a ton of fun. Like you keep the Zenita piece of you while also growing and evolving too.   Zaneta Hamlin (09:38) Thank you. Yeah, I mean, it's there's no way you can't change stuff if you don't accept it. Because if it was working the way you were doing it, then why are you coaching? So no, it's it's been up and down. I've learned to delegate. I wasn't doing that before. And I'm still learning to ⁓ give deadlines because sometimes I will suggest that something needs to be done and not say when I need it done by and in my mind, that means you've done it already.   Kiera Dent (09:45) Right.   Zaneta Hamlin (10:04) ⁓ so working on that, but I am doing better with letting others, ⁓ do things for me and that I don't have to do all of it. And I have a great team that understands that I will do it all if not, if they don't step in and they will be like, no, no, no, I got it. You go do something else or maybe go eat. about that? so, ⁓ I think it's who you surround yourself with that. ⁓   Kiera Dent (10:18) Mm-hmm.   Yeah. Yeah. Good.   Zaneta Hamlin (10:33) helps and like you mentioned like Christie, for example, I was talking to another doctor when I went to a master class a couple of weeks ago for the AGD and he was telling me like, hey, when you are looking to move your practice into different levels, like moving up, like for example, me, you know, trying to add an associate and grow, he was like, talk to people who have done it or people who ⁓   Kiera Dent (10:54) Mm-hmm.   Zaneta Hamlin (11:02) have been in that seat before, or coaches that can help you. And I was like, well, definitely my coach can help me with that. And to like, you know, talking to somebody like Kristy, who's been there, done that, probably even read a book about it, you know. So ⁓ it's who you surround yourself with too, that can help you.   Kiera Dent (11:20) Yeah, no, I think you've done an amazing job and it's just fun. It's fun to watch you evolve as a leader. It's fun to watch you. I mean, I remember some of our first emails were I'm staying here so late. Everything's on my plate. I don't know how to do this to now hearing you of I delegate and I built this culture of a team that knows who I am. They give it had to change yourself as Anita. That's something I love about you is I don't feel you. There's been a huge change of Anita. I think there's been like Zenita 2.0 is Anita 3.0.   where you just keep like, keep the core of who you are, but you evolve as your business evolves and like letting the team know, yes, this is who I am and this is what I'm expecting. And I'm very honest and very frank. I think it's really helped you tremendously. And like, let's give some snaps. You are bringing in an associate. You are evolving your practice. You are growing into these things. And so if you were talking to somebody, say in your shoes, they just found this space, they found the shell. They're super excited. There's Anita, who you were at the beginning.   Zenita today, what would you maybe tell that practice owner of some things of like, hey, as the wiser version of me, this is what I would maybe do or I would execute on XYZ or I would do this again of something that I did. What would you say are some of those tips you would give maybe a Zenita coming in doing a similar path?   Zaneta Hamlin (12:36) probably would have learned to delegate earlier. I think, yeah. Yeah.   Kiera Dent (12:40) I agree.   Yeah, I remember   some long emails and some hard nights on NotDelegate and a lot of hours at the practice unnecessarily.   Zaneta Hamlin (12:48) Yeah   I was quick focusing it. Don't do quick,   you can, but why? know, like, I can't believe I did that and how much time I put, but it's interesting though, like some, the things that I have delegated, I'm still busy. I still have to do things. it's like, now I'm like, how did I have time to do that? Like, no wonder why I was stressed. No wonder why I wasn't sleeping, you know, like, so I would have definitely, ⁓   Kiera Dent (12:57) I agree. I agree.   Yes.   Zaneta Hamlin (13:20) delegated sooner. I would have gotten an aura ring earlier. That's something she knows talking to her about. I would have gotten that earlier. ⁓ But I also would have trusted my intuition more a earlier. I mean, I did, but not at the level in which I do now. Like, for example, if I extend an offer or like,   Kiera Dent (13:24) Right? ⁓ It works great. Yes, agreed. Okay.   Zaneta Hamlin (13:49) you know, I make a decision, because I like to make decisions pretty quickly. Like it's this and we're going with it, right? I don't go back and like ponder it like, oh, did I really make this mistake? Like, was this a mistake? Should I have done this? Should I have done that? I've had those thoughts before, but then I quickly am like, no, no, no, it's, this is the way we should go if an offer was made and it wasn't accepted.   Kiera Dent (13:53) Mm-hmm.   Zaneta Hamlin (14:17) It's because that wasn't for me and it probably would have been a headache. You know, I've gone down that route with like negotiations and stuff like that. And I thought to myself, hey, had that actually worked, it would have been a disaster. So I'm glad it didn't. So definitely ⁓ intuition, like leaning into that and just going with the flow.   Kiera Dent (14:35) Yeah.   Mm hmm. No, and I do. I do think that there's so many times that we feel like there's all these other experts, which I do agree like great job. Kudos to you. You you jumped into consulting and you hired coaches and you talk to mentors and talking about Sheena and Christie like you use your doctor community around you and you work with other mentors. But I do believe that there's an internal knowing that I think we often lose by thinking I've never done this before. So how am I supposed to know? But I do think that there's a core knowing that   I really love that you brought that up, that people really do need to trust themselves. They need to execute on that more. ⁓ So many people are like, well, someone told me I shouldn't do this. And I'm like, but you know, like you know what you need to do and you're gonna, you'll figure it out and it will work. So, okay, I love your story and I love what you've done. And I'm so happy that you're sharing with other people. And now I wanna pivot to, let's talk about your branding. Talk me through, you said everything is branding opportunities. Every single possible thing that you do.   Zaneta Hamlin (15:18) It doesn't feel right.   Kiera Dent (15:36) Like has this always been a part of you? Did it just come with buying the practice? And then I want you to walk through some of the specifics that you do of branding intentionally, maybe even like who you use or where you get these things. Like, I don't think people realize like marketing is a lot easier than they think it is. You did a scratch start. So you have had to figure out how to market yourself with no money. So kind of walk us through like, how have you done this? How has the marketing been for you? How has it been finding more new patients like?   Zaneta Hamlin (15:54) Mm-hmm.   Kiera Dent (16:02) I don't know, whatever you want to take on this branding, because honestly, you are one of my queens of branding that I've met as a dentist. You do it so well. So walk me through just whatever, however you want to take this branding, marketing side of the business.   Zaneta Hamlin (16:15) No judgment. Okay. Ready? Okay. One of the cheapest things you can get and y'all don't, well, let's just go through it. So ⁓ pens. Okay. So I would go to Pens.com. They always run promos and stuff like that. Get some pens, get your favorite pen. ⁓ they send you, they'll send you something. See exactly. Yeah.   Kiera Dent (16:17) No judgment. I'm ready.   No judgment, we already put it there.   You do.   I have it. It's literally right there.   Zaneta Hamlin (16:42) What I, how I started was, mean, of course, Studio 88 did my logo, my colors and all that stuff. That was a process to get to what it is now, right? Because there were different versions of it, right? And then I started putting it on pens. So here's what I would do. would, when I go to a restaurant, family, friends, myself, whatever, you know, they give you a pen, a Bic pen or some whatever pen.   Kiera Dent (17:08) Mm-hmm.   Zaneta Hamlin (17:10) I will sign with my pen and I will leave that pen.   Kiera Dent (17:13) You're so clever. Okay, keep going.   I want to hear all these ideas. I'm writing them down by the way. They're brilliant.   Zaneta Hamlin (17:20) So   I always have a bajillion pens on me in my purse or in my pocket. wear scrubs, so I have them in my pockets and stuff. Like even where, like my car, where I take my car to get it serviced or I'll change whatever. They've got my pens floating around too. The wine shop that I go to with, that I have membership at, they've got my pens. They always ask me, what color is coming out next? You know, like, cause I do different colors based on different seasons, as long as it's within brand.   Kiera Dent (17:45) Smart.   Zaneta Hamlin (17:48) So I can tell when that pen was from because we've only been orange orders. And black was the last order we had. We have a teal one now. That was a mistake, but still I have 500 of them. So we're gonna work through that. Yeah. And then I also did a partnership with a restaurant that's not too far from my office, half a mile away. They're out by the water. They gave me gift cards that I can give to new patients.   Kiera Dent (17:54) That's incredible.   So we're giving them out. Yeah.   Zaneta Hamlin (18:17) I gave them a boatload of pens. So when they are having people sign their checks or whatever, you know, they finished their eating and all that stuff, they've got a Cusp Dental Boutique pen that people usually jack, they steal those. And so they've got 200 to sort through, whatever. So that's how I really started getting the brand out. I would wear what I had, if know, if I had t-shirts or something, I would wear those. Now I have sweatshirts and stuff too.   Kiera Dent (18:24) Mm-hmm.   Mm-hmm   Zaneta Hamlin (18:48) But it was just really wherever I can show folks. When I go with my kids to their games or their school or whatever, I might have something. And people ask, ⁓ are you the one that owns? Yeah, hi, you should come to this. You know, just really, so it could be anything. mean, again, pen is a simple and easy thing to do to carry, not a huge investment.   Kiera Dent (19:03) Yeah.   Zaneta Hamlin (19:16) you know, do that. And then when Stanley does promotions and they customize them, you do that too. Yep. Yeah. And koozies are cheap. ⁓ I use ⁓ Citi Paper. They are in Alabama. A friend of mine, another business owner, she's a pediatric dentist. Quinn, sent them or referred them to me and ⁓   Kiera Dent (19:23) On brand, on color. Excellent.   Zaneta Hamlin (19:44) They do all of my koozies, whether it's the regular size koozie or the tall ones, which we did one season for a beach, because we're right by the water. ⁓ And then even like our goodie bags, we don't do the traditional goodie bags at the office. They're cotton, because also check out the environment. I have to come up with something for my patients who bring theirs back to reuse them. Like, hey, maybe if you bring your bag back, so we can just refill it with your supplies if you need it.   Kiera Dent (20:02) Yeah.   Cute.   Zaneta Hamlin (20:14) ⁓ But things like that have been great and people love it because it's different. Now I use mine for like when I travel for makeup, like my makeup brushes. It's, you know, I've had patients that will use it for their sunglasses. We have Cusp sunglasses, which patients use when they're sitting in the chair anyway to protect their eyes and 90 % of the time they want to walk out with it anyway. So again, take it. has my logo.   Kiera Dent (20:25) Mm-hmm.   Take   it, please.   Zaneta Hamlin (20:44) Yeah,   take it. Yeah, by all means. So yeah, and sunglasses can be pretty cheap too.   Kiera Dent (20:47) ⁓   Mm-hmm. So what do you feel? Okay pens koozies sunglasses shirts sweatshirts reusable bags What do you feel are if I'm like on a budget? Pens obviously what else you feel has been I mean and also I'm hearing you you know your population You're by the beach. So you're thinking in beach like they're gonna want drinks. They don't want sand on those So koozies are gonna be great. Keep them cold. They're there   Zaneta Hamlin (21:02) Mm-hmm. Yes.   Kiera Dent (21:14) the towel thing at the beginning of the podcast. Well, yeah, that makes sense because you're at the beach. People need those are going to use those are going to see them. ⁓ I like what things would you say if I'm on a budget are going to be the best bang for my buck? I love the Stanleys. I didn't even think about like you're watching promotions on every single thing that your patients would use like sunglasses, clever. Again, you're a beach community. So what has been your best ROI?   Zaneta Hamlin (21:33) Yeah.   Yeah.   Kiera Dent (21:39) because branding is like awareness, but then there's also like, I need patients to come back with that. So what do you feel has been your best ROI that you could say these patients came from this if I could only choose like one or two of these items?   Zaneta Hamlin (21:53) If we, my team probably would have to help me with this, but if it's based on what people have asked for, I would say it's chapstick.   Kiera Dent (22:04) Interesting.   Zaneta Hamlin (22:05) Yeah, because you don't have to be at the beach to use chapstick like chaps you should keep these puppies moist like drink your water and Moisturize your lips ⁓ SPF all the things the chapstick folks have asked for like hey Do you guys still do the chapsticks because I think and I don't know I know there are different types, but the one we do is like the big daddy one I have one in my ⁓ pocket somewhere, but ⁓   Kiera Dent (22:14) Yeah.   You   Zaneta Hamlin (22:34) Um, people really like that. You know, someone once someone said to me, Oh yeah, a friend of mine was using it and I just liked how it went on. And, you know, she said she got at her dental appointment. I was like, Oh yeah. Okay. I'm glad you came because would you like one today after your appointment? can give you one.   Kiera Dent (22:52) because we've got   some and you can share them with all your friends.   Zaneta Hamlin (22:56) Yeah, so I think that has been great.   And then the koozies are the second ones because people ask for that again. You could be anywhere. I mean, my neighbors use the koozies when we're out in the neighborhood, you know, hanging out with the kids and stuff like that. So yeah. ⁓ look at that.   Kiera Dent (23:16) Mm-hmm.   Look at that. She has it. I'm telling you, this woman walks in her logo. I would not be shocked if you told me you had pajamas in it.   Zaneta Hamlin (23:28) That's it.   That's a good idea.   Kiera Dent (23:32) There you   go. Pajamas. know our team has been asking me for workout clothes, like tank tops. Um, and then also they want the branded shoes of Dental A Team shoes. So that way they're like, we do a different one every single year. Cause that way, like your team is always wearing stuff also. So like if it's stuff that they do, yes. Um, you can do that. We also found out you can make a custom Nikes. Uh, you can make other customs that.   Zaneta Hamlin (23:47) Yeah Chuck says it converse   Can you put lingo on   it?   Kiera Dent (24:01) So those are things, again, I haven't done it yet, but write down the, get your notebook. ⁓ But honestly, I think Zaneta, some of these things, even post podcast, if you can send me and we'll include it in the show notes, some of the suppliers that you use and some of the ideas that you have. like we've listed off, she's got the Stanleys that she brands, there's the ChapStick. But if you looked and if you saw on the video and if you miss it, it's not the cheap ChapStick. Like this is not a cheap ChapStick. There's some dental offices that give.   Zaneta Hamlin (24:29) They have...   Kiera Dent (24:30) Gross chapstick.   Zaneta Hamlin (24:31) yeah, the minis. I know!   Kiera Dent (24:33) The minis or the ones that just like get in your mouth and they taste disgusting or they like don't actually moisturize. They almost like dry it out worse. So you're like putting it on. ⁓ You know what I'm talking about. Excellent. Do you hear this? She's coming to our doctor in-person mastermind, which is in September and we're super excited about it. It's a doctor in leadership one and Zaneta is already thinking I'm bringing it for everybody. And that's not because these dentists.   Zaneta Hamlin (24:40) Yeah.   Yes. you're getting one. I think I'm bringing some for everybody when I come to the meeting.   and you get a chance to.   Kiera Dent (25:00) These dentists are not her client. We don't even live by her, but yet all of us are going to be wearing it. She never knows where one of us is going to be. I'm going to be on the airplane sitting there flying out to the East coast. Someone's going to see it. They're going to look it up cause they're going to love her logo. And lo and behold, they'll be like, ⁓ I saw some girl putting this chapstick on, on a plane. You never know where people are going to be. And that's very easy. I thought your restaurant idea was so clever and like pens. I did not even think about signing with your own and just leaving it there constantly.   the luggage, our team's getting luggage carriers. Like that's going to be part of their standard onboarding. Cause we fly all the time and dentists are on planes all the time. So Zenita.   Zaneta Hamlin (25:32) Thank you.   Dentists,   their assistants, their office managers, their spouses, somebody, it's fun. And I saw this cute lady walking by with this and took a picture of it and sent it to their spouse or whoever, best friend. Have you been in this company? Or why aren't you doing that?   Kiera Dent (25:43) Mm-hmm.   Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. It's a very, it's   so clever, Zenita. I think, okay, so what's your most random favorite thing that maybe wasn't the best ROI, but you just loved it. It was one of your favorite like things that you created that's been branded. I mean, you got a jean jacket that's unbranded. You've got your shirt, which is a super darling shirt. Like what have you loved that was like, yeah. And then you also said you got sweatshirts.   Zaneta Hamlin (26:16) Thank you, you really sound interesting.   Kiera Dent (26:20) What else do you have? Like, what was your favorite?   Zaneta Hamlin (26:23) well, I really like our, wine, ⁓ tumblers. I have a Yeti that has, ⁓ Cusp Dental Boutique on it, but we have tumblers or two versions again, depending on which one you break out. know when you got it because we only rotate certain things and we've, we've done some promos where like our Cusp Circle folks get, which we have to get better about it. But when people do our in office, ⁓   membership, yep, they get those things. So like the t-shirt, I'm not going to just give to like our regular PPO patient. Like it's going to be, you know, our membership folks that get those, like the nicer branded items. But I really like the ⁓ koozies or not koozies, the tumblers. ⁓ I use it often enough. ⁓   Kiera Dent (27:01) Mm-hmm.   Mm-hmm.   often enough, all the favorite things and you can have it as   a business write-off because you want them. They're branded. You pull them out for parties. You can put them on social media. Obviously, it's a complete business write-off. I agree. Yeah.   Zaneta Hamlin (27:24) Excellent. Yeah. I had   my previous coach, she would put when she would go to the beach or wherever she would go, she would take pictures with her wine tumbler in different places. I did like a, I think it's in my ⁓ Cusp merch on my Instagram, where it just shows people with Cusp Dental Boutique things in different places. ⁓ And sometimes I'll still do that. Like I'll set it somewhere or whatever.   Kiera Dent (27:40) Ha ha ha!   Zaneta Hamlin (27:54) I've had patients who will send me pictures of themselves out in the wild with random Cusp Dental Boutique things. yeah, but the wine tumbler has been great because no one else has that. no dental offices, you know, like it's something you wouldn't think of for a dental office. So yeah.   Kiera Dent (28:09) Yeah.   Mm-hmm.   Totally. Well, and as you're   saying, I hope people picked up on, I wrote down some notes that I think you maybe don't even realize you're doing, but you don't call it a membership plan. It's called Cusp Dental Boutique Circle. So it's your, and as soon as you said it, I was like, that's her membership plan. But notice the way you say it, Zaneta, is you want your people to be part of your group. It's a community, it's a group, it's not, and like they're getting the special stuff. They're getting something that's different than everybody else. So you're setting it apart for people that are a part of your inner circle.   Zaneta Hamlin (28:27) Yes.   Kiera Dent (28:46) Then it said Cusp merch and I was like, probably gonna start selling your merch like honestly, but right now it's just on social media, which then helps patients realize they go, they tag you, you're gonna be putting it on there. People will see it. ⁓ You also are very clever. You said two versions and I was like, that's so smart because then people are going to want things at different times. They're gonna see other people getting it, which then creates retention of people wanting to come back because they saw the merchandise. They saw different things.   Zaneta Hamlin (28:51) Mm-hmm.   Kiera Dent (29:15) but also you strategically know like when were, when did I see them? Where were these pieces based on what they're, they're having? So it's a very like thought out process that I don't even think people, I don't even know if you realize like the depths of the pieces you're doing that are just very fun. And it seems like you just have a ton of fun doing it too.   Zaneta Hamlin (29:22) there.   I do. mean, it's, I don't know. It's, I, now I will say if you are wearing your brand, you can't be outside acting crazy. So you can be fun.   Kiera Dent (29:41) I would agree. I was going to say, do you ever get sick of like having people be   like, hi, who are you? Like, I'm like, no, sometimes I want to go incognito on a plane. Like I don't want anybody to know me. So.   Zaneta Hamlin (29:48) Yes, right. I   do have those times. Like tomorrow, I'm supposed to be going to Cape Charles with my husband. It's our wedding anniversary. I have gone back and forth because we're going to be visiting an artillery. I'm like, do I go? Because I will wear my Cusp baseball cap. I have it in three colors. My team, some of my team members have them.   Kiera Dent (30:01) No.   Thank   Zaneta Hamlin (30:15) I think one   of our videos, were wearing it for like, it's our like new patient welcome video we have for wearing the hats. But my husband wears his often. But I've thought, do I go to this place wearing my Cusp Dental Boutique hat? Because it has the symbol in the front ⁓ and the name of the practice in the back. ⁓ Or do I go incognito? Nobody should know who I am. But the Eastern Shore,   Kiera Dent (30:42) Mm-hmm.   Zaneta Hamlin (30:43) is close enough and we do have patients that have come from there. So just from talking to you, I'm thinking that I'm probably going.   Kiera Dent (30:50) at least have   like, there'll be a little Cusp Dental Boutique cameo if not the full show. So yeah, of course she's taking pens.   Zaneta Hamlin (30:55) I'm also taking pens. So I'm going to be leaving them at the   distillery strategically and the restaurant. ⁓   Kiera Dent (31:02) The pen, the pen.   And I will say, Zaneta, I mean, you shipped this to me at Summit, because this is where it came from. We were at Summit and I was like, I need a notebook. And you messaged in the chat, I saw it come through, Zaneta said, I'm sending you a notebook. And lo and behold, this shows up in like the super cute notebook. I still have it. It's got a beautiful, I mean, it's a real nice pen, Zaneta. She did, that's something else I'm noticing with you. You're not scrimping. Like this is a very heavyweight pen. It's a nice feel pen.   Zaneta Hamlin (31:14) It did.   Kiera Dent (31:32) which also is on brand with a Cusp Dental Boutique office. You're not going for this like hot, like you're not going for the burn and churn, which is fine. If you were, it'd be a different type of pen. Your stickers are very high end stickers. Your business card is high end. It's on brand. There's the untethered. There's the Cusp Dental Boutique. Like just, I mean, you guys, I still have these. They're very nice. They're cute. They are not, I feel like I'm selling Cusp Dental Boutique. Like I feel like we're on an infomercial. Like here, here we are.   Zaneta Hamlin (31:59) Please keep going.   Kiera Dent (32:02) But I think something like this pen is compared to some of these crummy ones, like, you know, Pens.com, they do send you some really junky ones. They also send you some really nice ones. But I've been in offices writing with pens, like from the Pens.com, like they ship them to me. I'll have a rose gold one. I'll have a white one. And in offices, the dental assistant's like, I love your pen. And I'm like, well, you can have it. Here you go. Like take it, write it, share it with everybody. But I do think there's something to be said. You do nice things.   Zaneta Hamlin (32:10) Thank you. Yeah.   Yeah.   Kiera Dent (32:31) rather than doing just cheap things to slap a brand, but your brand is higher end. Your brand is a nicer brand. So you're making sure it's very intentional with your brand.   Zaneta Hamlin (32:42) think when you are going to brand your items, and I get it, it depends on which season you're in in your practice, right? But when you are going to put your name on something, you want it to represent you well. And so yes, the things that I have done are probably, you know, I will always say they're top tier. But some of these things you can also get when they go on sale. Like they'll send me stuff like, it's now 85 cents.   Kiera Dent (32:48) Mm-hmm.   Mm-hmm.   Zaneta Hamlin (33:11) you know, to get this pen or 50 cents for that pen. I'm like, oh shoot, get it, get it now. We're gonna get this color. This is gonna be this season or 2024. This is the color, you know. So it's just, and it's something I think it's probably my mother, cause she's always like, like if I'm gonna go out with her, like sometimes I wanna just dress down and wear sweatpants, right? She's like, where are you going? You're not following me like that. You know, and so it's like, okay, all right, I get it. Like I gotta represent you and myself well.   Kiera Dent (33:20) Mm-hmm.   Mm-hmm.   You   Mm-hmm.   Zaneta Hamlin (33:41) So yeah, for things you're gonna put your logo on, you do wanna make sure it's something that people are gonna want, that it looks good and it represents you. So if you can't, maybe hold out till you can get the one that you really want. Because if it's crappy and you don't even like it and you're not gonna use it, why get it? Save your money, invest it in something else. Get AI.   Kiera Dent (33:55) Mm-hmm.   Yeah.   Get AI.   was a mastermind conversation we had this week. There is a podcast inspo'd by Zaneta. I will not say exactly which one. She knows, you guys can all guess on the podcast coming out. I recorded it right before this one, but Zaneta, I think it was just so fun. I really wanted to hear just about the different ideas. So anything you have of like, like you said, Pens.com or where you get your koozies or any of those. Cause I think that's also the hard part of there. So much out there, like who are the good brands? So even if you can send some of those that you like.   Zaneta Hamlin (34:06) You   Kiera Dent (34:30) I'd be happy to share those along. But I think if nothing else, I hope listeners today start thinking of differently of how can you brand your stuff? How can you do simple things? Where are your patients hanging out all the time that are the ideal patients you want? Not just patients, because we don't want all patients. We want your ideal patient. So like you said, they're going to be at the distillery. So you're going to a certain place. Like I picked up on that. You're not like I'm handing these out at, we won't say certain names.   Zaneta Hamlin (34:32) Yeah.   you   Kiera Dent (34:56) but I know you would not be dropping pens at certain places. You will be dropping them up. They don't go to all locations. They go to intentional locations where you know, it's like you said, there's a restaurant on the water. Well, I can already tell what type of a clientele is at that one based on where this restaurant is. So without Zaneta even telling you who her ICP is or ideal customer profile or avatar of patient, she's intentionally putting all of her brand in the places she wants people to be at her ideal patient base.   Zaneta Hamlin (35:10) You   Kiera Dent (35:25) to grow and Zaneta, mean, without even sharing any of your numbers, the fact that you've taken a scratch, start shell of a practice, built it with your own branding, your own pieces to now you're going to be bringing on an associate. think people can attest that some of the things you're doing clearly have been working really, really well. So thank you for sharing. I got excited. I I wrote a ton of notes over here and I hope other people did. And these are the type of conversations that come out at the mastermind.   Zaneta is talking about all of her problems, but then she's branding her Cuspware everywhere and all of us want it. So it goes like, you know, it's a good, it's a good thing. And honestly, Sheena needs to talk to you. She needs help on her branding. So and Sheena shout out to you. Just like, you know, you need like these are the things.   Zaneta Hamlin (35:57) Ha ha!   I would love to, but I do think   though, just, I probably picked this up from Studio 88, just because you're a dental practice, a dental office, you do not have to do everything dental. Like my logo doesn't have a tooth anywhere, right? It can, and that's great, but it doesn't have to. So just because it's a dental practice, like my logo or the things that I brand aren't specific to dental things. So my recommendation is,   Kiera Dent (36:20) Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.   Zaneta Hamlin (36:33) Put your logo on something that you like and you would use outside of work. That is the best way to market your practice is on things that you would even want to use. It doesn't have to be like things you would expect from a dental office. You know what I mean? Like, hence the rumblers and yeah, the wine stuff.   Kiera Dent (36:52) right? The wine. Yep, yep. It's   stuff that you like, but also what I think is important is we often attract the people that are like us and as patients. And so Zaneta is doing things that make her happy, that make her want to do it, that are going to attract people that are very similar to her. Not everyone's going to love this pen. There will be some of you that will be like, that's too thick, that's too fat. Like I don't like how that one writes. And you would prefer another style of pen.   but people that like this high end vibe feel where it's this gel. mean, I already know Tiffany would love this pen and in the other colors. I also love that you do different colors. It's so clever, like so many fun things and you just have fun, but you do it. I'm really proud of you on an overhead budget. Good job. Like when it's on sale, when these things like, not just buying the Stanleys, you're literally being an intentional business owner too, which I think shows that you can do branding and marketing on like within an overhead budget.   and still have a ton of fun and make beautiful, high quality things. I mean, your logo just stands out even in this video. It's strong. It's, it's Anita. It's beautiful. And it just definitely represents who you are as a person too.   Zaneta Hamlin (38:00) And the final thing I'll mention about that is not every, like right now I'm the only one with the Stanley, but I will say my, if I make more of these, cause I wanted to try it out. I wanted to see how it would do. And my team members were like, I love that. You there are certain things that only squad members have. So like, right. So you want to get it. Like there's certain jackets or sweatshirts that we have.   Kiera Dent (38:14) Mm-hmm.   Zaneta Hamlin (38:28) You only get that if you're on my team. So ⁓ there are certain things you and like this t-shirt patients don't get this, you know, and it has our ⁓ humble hearts, skilled hands at the back. If they're wearing it out, they're like, well, where'd you get that shirt? Even if a patient from Cusp Circle wants a shirt, theirs is a little bit different, right? So again, strategically, you know, no, how'd you that? Cause only team members have that or whatever. So.   Kiera Dent (38:41) I love it.   Mm-hmm.   ⁓ Mm-hmm.   Zaneta Hamlin (38:56) If it's a little bit more expensive, yeah, maybe do that for your team during the holidays or their anniversary ⁓ or their birthday or something like that ⁓ that you're not just giving to anybody else.   Kiera Dent (39:05) Mm-hmm.   It's really clever. So for birthdays and anniversaries, do you have swag or gifts? I'm guessing it's all Cusp Dental Boutique. So tell us kind of about that. I mean, I didn't mean to go down this path, but I'm just very curious.   Zaneta Hamlin (39:20) So, not always, so give me some credit there, not always. our first, so for my office, the first anniversary, you get a Marc Jacobs tope.   Kiera Dent (39:24) Yeah, yeah. Okay.   I love it. I love it. No, there is no judgments   they needed. These are the things that make offices stand out. I love it.   Zaneta Hamlin (39:37) It's the mini though. So they get,   it's the maybe, I guess it's the small. So ⁓ far I've given four of those out. But anyway, you get that in whatever color. I order them, get them in bulk during the holidays. So I have them hidden somewhere in my office. So whenever someone's anniversary is, I can get in, I know what color they want, I can ask, and then they get that for their first anniversary. Second anniversary, what I've done is, ⁓   Kiera Dent (39:51) Mm-hmm.   Zaneta Hamlin (40:06) I have, we did like the, I think it's like the Turkish towels, because again, beach, and then ⁓ city paper put my logo on it. It's in like leather or something like that on the side. ⁓ So they have that, and you know, the Turkish towels have like, it's like tied at the bottom or whatever, like the things hanging off of it. So we did that in a wine. So the wine shop that I go to, they custom made a, they, brought the towel.   Kiera Dent (40:11) Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.   Mm-hmm. Yep. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.   No.   Zaneta Hamlin (40:35) They put that in there with, so my team members that have gotten to their second year anniversary, they fill out a questionnaire from the wine shop that tells, ask them specifically what kind of wines they like. We put that in the box with other goodies from the wine shop. So it might be like truffle almonds or whatever that will pair well and little things based on what they like. And then that goes with it. And so that was year two.   ⁓ I'm still thinking what's gonna happen for those that make it to year three, ⁓ but it's always gonna be something different. They'll get at least something that has Cusp on it. It's just the first anniversary has the Marc Jacobs tote. And that started from like a joke that we had in the office, because people would walk around with these Marc Jacobs. And my admin at the time, Rachel, she was great before she moved. She had, and it's on social media somewhere where,   Kiera Dent (41:05) Mm-hmm.   Yeah, I love it.   Yeah   Zaneta Hamlin (41:32) She wrote on a brown paper bag, the tote, and she would walk around the office with it. And I was like, I get the hint. I get it. So that's when I bought it and I just made it a rule. Our first anniversary, that's what you get. So it's the same.   Kiera Dent (41:36) Mm-hmm.   You   It's amazing. And I love that you   think about like buying it on sale, there's different things. And then it's part of the Cusp. I love that it's called the Cusp squad. And you've got the Cusp Dental sort of like Boutique circle. So it's like you've got different names also for your groups that people want to be, which is so amazing. I have a friend and she does this in her dermatology and I didn't think about it. But she has it so exclusive that people like fly in from other places to go to her dermatology and be like, how did you get into joyful?   And she's just done a great job of branding it, of making things special, of making it to where this is only for, and I mean, I wrote so many notes because this is not my specialty. That's why I wanted you on the podcast, Anita, because I think hearing what other people do really can help us out. And like you are literally thinking in branding all day, every day, what can I do? But also doing it in such a beautiful aesthetic way as well that people want it. I mean, who doesn't want to Mark Jacobs bag that, yeah, I'm okay with it saying Cusp on it. Like I'll take that, right? ⁓   It's a beautiful thing that people do want, which is amazing. I love it. Well, Zaneta, I adore you. Any last thoughts you have, anything on branding or business ownership or anything that you feel leaving our listeners today would put a nice pretty bow on this for you today, because I've loved it. I've enjoyed all the tactical pieces, so many different fun things, like something so far from what I normally talk about that just makes me excited and psyched ready to do this. So any last things you want to add, any advice, any pieces?   to put a on our podcast today.   Zaneta Hamlin (43:19) Just make it fun, get stuff that you would use, doesn't have to be dental related. mean, ⁓ yeah, you can check in with your team too. They might have some great ideas that you can use, but yeah, just have fun with it and be obnoxious as you want to with it. Yeah.   Kiera Dent (43:40) I love it.   Amazing. Well, Zaneta, thank you. Thank you for coming on. Thank you for sharing. And I think this is just something really special about our dentist community of like people like you and Christie and Sheena and like, Jamin and all Kevin like so many cool amazing doctors that we get to hang out together. I didn't know how that community was going to shake. had visions of it becoming what it's been where you pop on your hair is always wrapped up because you're coming from patients on your computer hanging out.   Zaneta Hamlin (44:07) Yes.   Kiera Dent (44:09) And then all of a sudden I see the like eyes flash to the screen like what? And I'm supposed to do what? You guys want the what? But just like a fun community and having doctors like yourself that just bring special different ways. I think it's just amazing. So thank you for being on the Dental A Team's family. Thank you for being a part of our crew. It's just like, and thank you for sharing on the podcast today. I really appreciate you.   Zaneta Hamlin (44:30) Thank you for having me. Like, yeah, I'm glad Brandy got us to this point because, I'll definitely, I won't disappoint next month. I'll have some new ideas for you because my pin is going to be on, so you'll see that too, on my blazer.   Kiera Dent (44:41) I know you won't. Zaneta, I guarantee you. I can't wait.   I cannot wait. Yeah, you walk around with this pin. I'm telling you Zaneta dresses herself to the hilt with her brand and it's amazing. I love it every time and I never know what you're going to show up in and it's always different. You're always thinking but I also love that you highlighted because some people can go crazy and not be smart strategic business owners and you're able to do both and that's really what I wanted to highlight. So   Thank you and thank everyone. ⁓ And as always, thanks for listening and I'll catch you next time on the Dental A Team Podcast.  

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In this heartfelt episode of The Worst Girl Gang Ever, we welcome Alicia — a passionate baby loss advocate, mother of three living children, and a woman who has bravely walked through unimaginable grief. Alicia shares her raw, deeply personal journey of miscarriage, stillbirth, pregnancy after loss, and the traumatic gaps in maternity care, particularly for Black women in the UK. Topics Covered in This Episode: Alicia's first devastating stillbirth at nearly 5 months pregnant The emotional trauma of grieving in a non-soundproofed maternity ward Navigating a new pregnancy just weeks after loss Living with intrahepatic cholestasis of pregnancy (ICP) and high-risk pregnancies The emotional toll of recurrent miscarriage, including vanishing twin syndrome Faith, mental health, and finding purpose after loss Advocating for bereavement care reform and Black maternal health Creating DOTE Bags — care packages for parents grieving baby loss Why fathers and partners deserve more recognition and support in baby loss experiences Alicia courageously opens up about her experience as a Black mother navigating the UK maternity system — including shocking disparities, dismissed symptoms, and the lack of empathy she faced following multiple losses. She explains why she is now petitioning for improved bereavement care, including soundproofed hospital spaces for grieving families and better mental health support. She also discusses her project, The DOTE Bag Initiative, providing self-care essentials and emotional comfort to parents experiencing miscarriage or stillbirth, especially around sensitive times like Father's Day. About The Worst Girl Gang Ever The Worst Girl Gang Ever is a real, honest, and emotive podcast that covers the heartbreaking subject of miscarriage, infertility, and baby loss. Expect raw conversations about unspoken experiences, hosted by TWGGE founders Bex Gunn and Laura Buckingham. This show aims to break the silence and open dialogue around miscarriage and pregnancy loss. No more shame, no more taboo—let's change the narrative for future generations. Support and Resources Access The Warriorship The Warriorship is our free peer to peer membership platform, connecting you with others who ‘just get it' through whats app groups, online drop in sessions, a book club, creative workshops and informative webinars. Join now and instantly connect with others who understand the challenges you face.https://theworstgirlgangever.co.uk/membership/ Our book We are here to tell you that you are entitled to grieve, and that your grief is not disproportionate to your loss. We are here to open up the dialogue around miscarriage, so we don't perpetuate the shame, judgement and isolation so many of us feel following pregnancy loss. We are here to equip you with knowledge, tools and guidance to support and help you in whatever way you need. https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/0008524998/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?ie=UTF8& Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Want our 10 advanced prompts for GPT-5? Get em' here: https://clickhubspot.com/ngm Ep. 353 Is GPT-5 any good for creative writing, or is it just another overhyped AI release? Kipp dives into the one trick most marketers miss that instantly turns any AI into a better writing assistant. Learn how to craft a content ICP that actually works, why copy-paste marketers are doomed to mediocrity, and how tailoring your AI prompts with deep audience insights unlocks far more creative, original content. Mentions GPT-5 https://chatgpt.com/ Perplexity https://www.perplexity.ai/ Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt We're creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you're facing at work or in your business. To understand your biggest challenges we've put together a survey and we'd love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research Resource [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip We're on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg  Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod  Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don't forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934   If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar   Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat ‘Marketing Against The Grain' is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.

Parag Agrawal is the co-founder and CEO of Parallel, a startup building search infrastructure for the web's second user: AIs. Before launching Parallel, Parag spent over a decade at Twitter, where he served as CTO and later CEO during a period of intense transformation, as well as public scrutiny. In this episode, Parag shares what he learned from his time at Twitter, why the web must evolve to serve AI at massive scale, how Parallel is tackling “deep research” challenges by prioritizing accuracy over speed, and the design choices that make their APIs uniquely agent-friendly. We also discuss: Why Parallel designs for AI as the primary customer Lessons from 11 years at Twitter and applying them to a startup Potential business models to keep the web open for AI Hiring philosophy: balancing high potential and experienced talent The evolving role of engineers in an AI-assisted world Why “agents” are finally becoming useful in production And much more… References: Bloomberg launch coverage: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-08-14/twitter-ex-ceo-parag-agrawal-is-moving-past-his-elon-musk-drama Clay: https://www.clay.com/ Index Ventures: https://www.indexventures.com/ Josh Kopelman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jkopelman/ KLA: https://www.kla.com/ OpenAI: https://openai.com/ Parallel: https://parallel.ai/ Patrick Collison: https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickcollison/ Stripe: https://stripe.com/ Where to find Parag: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/paragagr/ X/Twitter: https://x.com/paraga Where to find Todd: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/toddj0/ X/Twitter: https://x.com/tjack Where to find First Round Capital: Website: https://firstround.com/ First Round Review: https://review.firstround.com/ X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/firstround YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@FirstRoundCapital This podcast on all platforms: https://review.firstround.com/podcast Timestamps: (1:26) Founding Parallel with an AI-first mission (3:23) From Twitter CTO/CEO to startup founder (6:20) What the AI era spells for companies (7:58) The CEO to founder pipeline (11:18) Reflections on Twitter's transformation (17:48) How Parallel was born (22:31) Early use cases for Parallel (31:42) How has Parallel's ICP changed? (34:37) AI's impact on competitor dynamics (36:06) When should founders launch? (37:43) Parag's fundraising framework (40:14) Building a high-impact engineering team (44:49) Counterproductive uses of AI (47:35) How will the software engineer role evolve? (49:10) How are Parallel's customers using AI? (53:27) Defining agents in 2025 (55:02) Parallel's long-term vision (1:03:43) Parag's growth as a founder

This week, join Peter and Chris as they deep dive into the seventh track off Freek Show by Twiztid, "Leave Me Alone" along with the Toilet $ Remix, the video and Twiztid's 2025 Version! Sit back and listen as they dissect the lyrics and content of the track, discuss notes from the Freek Show Anniversary Tour, talk the upcming almighty sixth joker card, and tackle important topics like Mr Mutant X and his lovely teeth!      TIME STAMPS! 0:00:00 (Start)    0:31:10 (Tale of the Tape)    0:33:069 (Lyrical Deep Dive)    0:46:40 (Toilet $ Remix / Video / Twiztid's Version)    1:04:50 (Starting to Wrap Up)    1:11:29 (Final Credits)      The LinkTree can be found at https://linktr.ee/juggalorwd. Otherwise here are all of our links -  Twitter/X: @JuggaloRWD  IG: @JuggaloRWD  Facebook: @JuggaloRWD  TikTok: @JuggaloRWD  Threads: @JuggaloRWD  BlueSky: @JuggaloRWD  The website is www.JuggaloRewind.com.  Join us on the ICPWWE Discord and talk to other listeners and podcast hosts about Psychopathic Records, ICP, Twiztid and random juggalo nonsense.  Email us at juggalorwd@gmail.com or call/text us at (810) 666-1570.        Join our Patreon! For only 5 bucks a month, you can join Kilnore's Army and get at least two bonus episodes per month and more! Become an official member of the Phat or Wack Pack today! -- Juggalo Rewind Patreon.      Additional music provided by Steve O of the IRTD. Voiceover work provided by Christmas. The Rewind is forever powered by the 20x20 Apparel.   All music played is owned by the respective publishers and copywrite holders and is reproduced for review purposes only under fair use. Thank you to Majik Ninja Entertainment for allowing us to bring this podcast to all of the juggalos worldwide. #ForTheJuggaloCulture

Episode Summary: Rebecca Shaddix joins Erin and Ken to blow up tired go-to-market tropes and rewrite what it means to lead with product marketing in an AI-native era. She shares the frameworks behind “acceptable mistakes,” why critical thinking is the superpower in a world of noisy AI outputs, and how to avoid chasing 80 experiments that go nowhere. If you're a CMO, PMM, or founder trying to separate signal from AI hype, this is your roadmap. About Our Guest: Rebecca Shaddix is the Head of Product & Lifecycle Marketing at Garner Health, Forbes contributor, and GTM strategy pioneer. She's built GTM engines for high-growth SaaS and EdTech, founded Strategica, and is known for making complex data actionable (without losing trust or speed). Her frameworks are shaping the new AI playbook for marketers who want repeatable results, not just activity. 00:59 Ken's AI Sandwich Framework 04:26 Erin's AI-Powered Book Series 07:10 Interview with Rebecca Shaddix 08:24 Rebecca on Acceptable Mistakes in AI Implementation 17:44 AI's Impact on Product Marketing 23:30 Balancing AI Training and Deep Research 28:41 AI Tools and Budget Constraints 30:32 Navigating the Rapid Evolution of AI in Business 30:59 Balancing Risk and Reward in AI Tool Selection 32:44 Effective Team Collaboration and AI Integration 37:08 Building Trust in AI Insights 45:15 The Future of Product Marketing 54:13 Lightning Round and Final Thoughts   Quote of the Episode: “Trust in AI starts with transparency and ends with collaboration. Bring your teams in early, and let them own the process.” – Rebecca Shaddix

In this episode of The Predictable Revenue Podcast, Ajay Singh, founder of Pepsales, joins Collin to break down how his team ran 200+ discovery calls before writing a line of code, and why that depth changed everything: their ICP, their positioning, even who they refused to sell to. But this isn't just a story about Ajay. It's a roadmap for any founder trying to earn product-market fit the hard way, by talking to strangers, chasing clarity, and pushing past the false signals that kill most startups. Highlights include: Understanding Customer Needs (17:14), Identifying Market Gaps (19:53), Navigating Competition (22:57), Challenges in Sales Processes (27:43), and more... Stay updated with our podcast and the latest insights in Outbound Sales and Go-to-Market Strategies!

If you want to build a sales engine that consistently turns interest into booked revenue, you need a system that works without you. In this episode, Mark Gordon—the “Rebel CRO”—shares his 4-part framework across messaging, lead generation, sales process, and technology to create sustainable, predictable growth. We dig into go-to-market strategy, marketing that works, AI in marketing, hyperlocal SEO, reviews & awards strategy, referrals, and how these play out for doctors in private practice and other professional services.If you've been searching for answers to why your marketing isn't working, this conversation gives you the solutions: how to fix unclear positioning, differentiate in a “commodity” market, and turn value-first offers into sales meetings. Mark explains how to use go-to-market frameworks to define your ideal customer profile (ICP), craft a unique value proposition (UVP) that lands, and balance demand creation with demand capture.By the end of this episode, you'll understand how to create a simple nurture cadence, boost pipeline velocity, build trust signals like Google reviews and local awards, and maintain CRM hygiene—so your sales engine doesn't rely on hustle, luck, or the founder. If your search intent is to find a proven path to higher conversions, fewer no-shows, and stronger market authority, Mark delivers the playbook you've been looking for.00:00 Intro: who Mark helps & why engines beat ad-hoc selling00:42 Mark's background and “Rebel CRO” approach02:05 Why marketing “isn't working” (and how to diagnose it)03:38 Differentiation in commodity markets; sub-category moves05:02 Value-first offers → capture → consult → close06:15 The 4 systems overview: messaging, lead generation, sales process, tech07:40 Follow-up cadence, pipeline hygiene, and CRM automation09:12 AI in marketing: where it helps vs. where trust is human10:34 Hyperlocal SEO, reviews & awards strategy, and trust signals12:28 “Mom test” messaging and category language that resonates14:03 Creating the “I never thought of it that way” sales moment15:20 Examples for doctors in private practice, lawyers, and local pros16:35 How to work with Mark; first steps to implement17:10 Final takeaways & next action17:54 End#BuildASalesEngine #Sales #GoToMarket #LeadGeneration #Messaging #SalesProcess #MarketingThatWorks #AIinMarketing #HyperlocalSEO #Reviews #Referrals #PrivatePractice #Doctors #Dentists #Lawyers #SmallBusinessGrowth #RebelCRO #BusinessPodcast #EntrepreneurshipTo check out the YouTube (video podcast), visit: https://www.youtube.com/@drchrisloomdphdDisclaimer: Not advice. Educational purposes only. Not an endorsement for or against. Results not vetted. Views of the guests do not represent those of the host or show.  Click here to join PodMatch (the "AirBNB" of Podcasting): https://www.joinpodmatch.com/drchrisloomdphdWe couldn't do it without the support of our listeners. To help support the show:CashApp- https://cash.app/$drchrisloomdphdVenmo- https://account.venmo.com/u/Chris-Loo-4Spotify- https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/christopher-loo/supportBuy Me a Coffee- https://www.buymeacoffee.com/chrisJxClick here to purchase my books on Amazon: https://amzn.to/2PaQn4pFollow our YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/chL1357Follow us on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/drchrisloomdphdFollow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thereal_drchrislooFollow the podcast on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3NkM6US7cjsiAYTBjWGdx6?si=1da9d0a17be14d18Subscribe to our Substack newsletter: https://substack.com/@drchrisloomdphd1Subscribe to our LinkedIn newsletter: https://www.linkedin.com/build-relation/newsletter-follow?entityUrn=6992935013231071233Subscribe to our email list: https://financial-freedom-podcast-with-dr-loo.kit.com/Thank you to all of our sponsors and advertisers that help support the show!Financial Freedom for Physicians, Copyright 2025

In this podcast episode, Dr. John Holcomb discusses the management of traumatic brain injury (TBI) and the innovative use of plasma as a treatment option. He emphasizes the importance of understanding the glycocalyx and its role in preventing edema and managing intracranial pressure (ICP). The conversation also highlights the limitations of current guidelines in TBI treatment and the need for practical considerations in administering plasma. Dr. Holcomb advocates for a shift in practice towards using plasma early in the treatment process to improve patient outcomes.TakeawaysPlasma is used as a drug to prevent edema in TBI patients.The glycocalyx plays a crucial role in brain injury management.Preventing increased ICP is more effective than treating it.Current guidelines often lag behind clinical practice.Understanding the physiology behind treatments is essential for medics.Monitoring blood pressure is critical in TBI management.Plasma can repair the blood-brain barrier and reduce edema.Practical considerations are necessary for administering plasma in the field.The outcomes of TBI treatment should focus on functional recovery.Future directions in TBI management include more research on plasma use.Chapters00:00 Introduction to TBI Management and Plasma Use03:04 Understanding Plasma as a Drug for TBI05:39 The Role of Glycocalyx in Brain Injury08:47 Preventing Edema and Managing ICP11:31 Guidelines and Their Limitations in TBI Treatment14:33 Practical Considerations for Administering Plasma17:29 The Importance of Patient Monitoring and Judgment20:44 Outcomes and Future Directions in TBI ManagementFor more content, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.prolongedfieldcare.org⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Consider supporting us: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠patreon.com/ProlongedFieldCareCollective⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.lobocoffeeco.com/product-page/prolonged-field-care⁠⁠

“... to date, there are no confirmed reports of any clowns actually abducting, harming, or killing kids… There just aren't. There are zero.”Do you remember when there were a bunch of clown sightings a few years back? It seemed like every week brought new reports of creepy clowns lurking at the edge of woods, roaming neighborhoods, and leering from parking lots. They waved at startled onlookers, chased kids with knives, or whispered from the tree line... at least, that's what people said.People flooded 911 lines with calls about these boogeymen in big shoes, yet concrete evidence was scarce. It was a bizarre social media-fueled hysteria that spread across dozens of states and even overseas, equal parts absurd and unsettling...Research, writing, hosting, and production by Micheal WhelanAdditional research & writing by Ira RaiLearn more about this podcast at http://unresolved.meIf you would like to support this podcast, consider heading to https://www.patreon.com/unresolvedpod to become a Patron or ProducerBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/unresolved--3266604/support.

No is a powerful word. It can stop a naughty dog in its tracks, it can get you out of a night out with friends when you just want to rot in your bed, and most of all, it's supposed to mean something when you don't want anything to do with someone romantically. Unfortunately for society, some people can't handle being told no. It fills them with unfounded rage because how dare anyone deny them something they want. Today, we're discussing a case where someone handled rejection so pathetically that it resulted in the murder of 4 people and left a mark on three communities that would last a lifetime.Join Katie and Whitney, plus the hosts of Last Podcast on the Left, Sinisterhood, and Scared to Death, on the very first CRIMEWAVE true crime cruise! Get your fan code now--tickets on sale now: CrimeWaveatSea.com/CAMPFIRESources:YouTube channel "Explore With Us" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQTJ48TYnzYInvestigation Discovery's "Web of Lies," episode "Farmville Horror"https://www.capecodtimes.com/story/news/2009/09/28/singer-slayings-off-limits-to/51852160007/ https://lbhfs.proboards.com/thread/3255/strictly-wicked-2009-festivalhttps://genius.com/Syko-sam-the-voices-lyricshttps://www.discogs.com/release/8618519-Serial-Killin-Records-Strictly-for-the-Wicked-2009-The-DVD?srsltid=AfmBOoo_o8xxi3EHZ7zsY8LT1e1i3gfXjAkyh3yjjvZLVtttOGKEDkok https://genius.com/Razakel-watch-out-lyricshttps://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/horrorcore-syko-sam/https://www.nyu.edu/about/news-publications/news/2019/june/your-nose-knows-when-it-comes-to-stronger-memories.htmlFollow us, campers!Patreon (join to get all episodes ad-free, at least a day early, an extra episode a month, and a free sticker!): https://patreon.com/TrueCrimeCampfirehttps://www.truecrimecampfirepod.com/Facebook: True Crime CampfireInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/truecrimecampfire/?hl=enTwitter: @TCCampfire https://twitter.com/TCCampfireEmail: truecrimecampfirepod@gmail.comMERCH! https://true-crime-campfire.myspreadshop.comBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/true-crime-campfire--4251960/support.

Connectbase is transforming how service providers buy and sell connectivity in what founder Ben Edmond calls "the connected world" - a massive $1.6 trillion industry that powers our entire digital infrastructure. With $70 million in funding, Connectbase serves 427+ service providers including 82% of the global Gartner Magic Quadrant, creating the ecosystem fabric that connects data centers, towers, fiber networks, and the thousands of providers that deliver connectivity services. In a recent episode of Category Visionaries, we sat down with Ben Edmond, CEO and Founder of Connectbase, to learn about the company's journey from solving Excel spreadsheet chaos to building the digital backbone for an entire industry. Topics Discussed:  Connectbase's rapid path from MVP to $1M ARR in 14 months without initial funding The three-layer architecture of the "connected world" industry ecosystem Building "location truth" as a core positioning strategy to unify fragmented data Evolving from "friends of Ben" sales approach to scalable go-to-market systems The strategic shift from product-focused selling to brand-driven market education Critical lessons from selling to wrong customers and wasting time on bright shiny objects Creating "categories of one" versus competing in crowded red ocean markets The 17 times rule for effective communication and message penetration in complex industries GTM Lessons For B2B Founders: Ship fast when you deeply understand the customer problem: Ben launched Connectbase's first product just six months after starting the company, reaching $1M ARR 14 months later without initial funding. This speed was possible because he had lived the industry pain for years at companies like MCI. "I understood the problem very well," Ben explains. B2B founders with deep domain expertise should leverage that knowledge to move quickly from problem to solution rather than over-engineering initial products or getting trapped in endless customer discovery cycles. Resist the bright shiny object customer trap at all costs: Ben's biggest mistake was selling to consultants, real estate companies, and other customers outside his core ICP who seemed interested but weren't sustainable. "Selling to the wrong customers would probably be the number one thing," he reflects. "It's pretty easy for lots of people to deliver one time value and then move on, but it's not very valuable really focusing on customers that are going to get durable long term value and you're aligned to accelerating, supporting and uniquely positioned to help." B2B founders should resist revenue from customers outside their ideal customer profile, even when cash flow is tight, and focus exclusively on customers where they can deliver repeatable, long-term value. Time brand investment strategically around behavior change requirements: Around year three, Ben realized Connectbase needed to shift from direct sales to brand building because they were "fundamentally changing behavior and behavior is hard to change." The insight: when your solution requires market education and behavior modification, brand investment becomes more valuable than incremental sales tactics. B2B founders should time this transition carefully - after achieving product-market fit with core customers but before growth stalls due to market education barriers. Apply the "17 times rule" for message penetration in complex markets: Ben developed what he calls the "17 times rule" for market education: "If I don't say the same thing 17 times, you know, very confident that the words are not going to be completely understood and actioned on. But if I do, I'm going to get my point across and be relevant in positioning." This applies to both internal teams and external market positioning. B2B founders in complex industries should systematically track how many times key positioning concepts have been reinforced across all channels and customer touchpoints. Create categories of one by focusing on unique ecosystem positioning: Instead of competing in the crowded $35 billion telecom software space, Ben positioned Connectbase as the only "ecosystem fabric with location truth" for service providers. "I like categories of one instead of categories of many," he explains. B2B founders should identify unique positioning that combines multiple capabilities or approaches in ways competitors cannot easily replicate, rather than trying to be incrementally better at existing category definitions. Build revenue-focused marketing DNA from the foundation: Ben insists on hiring marketers who view themselves as part of the revenue engine, not just lead generators. "Vanity metrics, don't pay anyone's payroll. So you know, really focus on people that have a belief that marketing is part of the revenue engine and an important critical part and driving, you know, the marketing mix to get to close one customers and upsells and long term relationships." B2B founders should establish revenue accountability for all marketing hires and avoid the trap of optimizing for engagement metrics that don't drive business outcomes. Treat fundraising as partnership selection, not capital acquisition: Ben approaches investor selection "almost like getting married" - focusing on partners who understand the industry and can provide strategic value beyond capital. "Find the partners that actually understand your space that you operate in, be choosy, and partners that are going to, you know, help you move forward. Because business is hard... you want people in the corner with a belief and a set of skills and capabilities that are going to elevate you, challenge you, and make you better." 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This week, join Peter and Chris as they deep dive into the sixth track off Freek Show by Twiztid, "Do You Really Know" and the remix! Sit back and listen as they dissect the lyrics and content of the track, discuss separating the art from the artist, talk about Chris's love of backwards talking on tracks, and tackle important topics like the Juggalo Hall of Fame!      TIME STAMPS! 0:00:00 (Start)    0:08:33 (RIP Hulk and Roddy Hogan)    0:34:24 (Tale of the Tape)    0:39:39 (Lyrical Deep Dive)    1:12:04 (Fritz Remix)    1:15:42 (Wrapping This Boy Up)      The LinkTree can be found at https://linktr.ee/juggalorwd. Otherwise here are all of our links -  Twitter/X: @JuggaloRWD  IG: @JuggaloRWD  Facebook: @JuggaloRWD  TikTok: @JuggaloRWD  Threads: @JuggaloRWD  BlueSky: @JuggaloRWD  The website is www.JuggaloRewind.com.  Join us on the ICPWWE Discord and talk to other listeners and podcast hosts about Psychopathic Records, ICP, Twiztid and random juggalo nonsense.  Email us at juggalorwd@gmail.com or call/text us at (810) 666-1570.        Join our Patreon! For only 5 bucks a month, you can join Kilnore's Army and get two bonus episodes and more! Become an official member of the Phat or Wack Pack today! -- Juggalo Rewind Patreon.      Additional music provided by Steve O of the IRTD. Voiceover work provided by Christmas. The Rewind is forever powered by the 20x20 Apparel.   All music played is owned by the respective publishers and copywrite holders and is reproduced for review purposes only under fair use. Thank you to Majik Ninja Entertainment for allowing us to bring this podcast to all of the juggalos worldwide. #ForTheJuggaloCulture

If your LinkedIn feed looks like a museum of giant n8n screenshots and “comment to get the guide” posts…good. That means the playbook works—when you do it right. Paolo breaks down the exact framework his agency uses to turn LinkedIn into a repeatable inbound lead engine for B2B—especially SaaS, agencies, and info businesses.What You'll LearnLead magnet mechanics that still crush: how to pick the right asset (templates vs. guides), formats that perform (Notion docs, Miro boards, short scroll videos), and the “perceived value + curiosity + scarcity” combo.Hooks that make people click “See more”: trigger desire, fear, or curiosity in the first 3 lines.Pattern interrupts that boost reach: why oversized workflows, zoom-ins, and 10-second sped-up videos spike hover time and help the algo.Profile-as-landing-page: how to structure your headline, Featured section, and CTAs to funnel traffic without tanking post reach.Nurture after the comment: DM prompts that qualify intent, when to drop case studies, and how to avoid low-intent “free audit” traps.Where this shines: B2B SaaS, agencies, consultants/coaches—audiences that are active on LinkedIn and buy from content.Paolo's Playbook (Step-by-Step)Pick the problem (one ICP pain your offer solves).Choose the asset format based on buyer type:Done-for-you buyers → plug-and-play templates.Education/info buyers → guides/videos.Design the preview media to signal value and create curiosity:Notion table of contents screenshot, massive Miro flow, or a 10-sec scroll video.Write the post like this:3-line hook (desire/fear/curiosity).Promise + what's inside.CTA to comment (optionally “repost for priority”).Light scarcity (e.g., 48-hour window).Delivery & DMs:Send the asset, ask an easy reply (“Are you posting on LinkedIn yet?”).Qualify with 1–2 follow-ups, then make a clear offer with outcomes + timeline (+ guarantee if you have one).Nurture cadence (next 2–3 days):Day 1: Case study (story format: before → intervention → after; CTA to book).Day 2: Technical value post (lower engagement is fine; it nurtures).Add strongest case studies to Featured on your profile.Links without nuking reach:Push to profile/Featured or drop links in comments; edit the post later to add the link after it's cooked.Tactical NuggetsComments > Likes (weightier signal + more hover time).Avoid bot pods; if you coordinate engagement, keep it real accounts and relationships.For SaaS without a free trial, push to a free setup/usage guide that inherently requires the product.Use storytelling in case studies; people remember transformations, not dashboards.If you're running volume lead magnets, expect lower engagement on deep-dive posts—that's normal and still effective.Tools & Formats MentionedNotion (TOC screenshot as lead magnet preview)Miro (big workflow screenshots)n8n (automation diagrams that stop the scroll)Short scroll videos (10–15s, autoplay pattern interrupt)AI voice agent (optional MOFU experiment to educate and qualify at scale before handing off to a human)Who This Works Best ForB2B SaaS (often top performer)AgenciesConsultants/CoachesAny ICP that's active on LinkedIn and buys based on content/authoritySponsorTalent Fiber — Hire world-class global talent (engineers with 7+ years' experience, U.S. time zones, excellent English) at ~⅓ U.S. cost. They're an outsourced HR partner, handling compliance, payroll, and employee happiness—with a free replacement if it doesn't work out. Learn more: talentfiber.comConnect with PaoloLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/leadgenwiz/

Why have so many leaders written off SEO as “dead”?

 In this episode, I sat down with Kristen Sweeney, the founder of Every Little Word — a boutique content and communications agency that's laser-focused on helping complex B2B orgs share what they actually know in ways that actually work. We got into the nitty-gritty of what it means to build trust with subject matter experts, why most B2B content is fundamentally broken, and how Kristen made a huge decision to walk away from a partner that was 60% of her business. Timestamps00:00 – Intro & Kristen's background01:03 – From Broadway to freelance writing03:03 – Business triples during COVID04:48 – Treating execs like peers, not titles06:22 – Sales copy and horizontal vs vertical relationships07:39 – Why so much outreach reads as either bragging or begging08:09 – Creating content that matches your ICP's level09:47 – Executives can smell uncertainty11:49 – Emotions in B2B aren't optional14:17 – Leaving a 60% revenue partnership16:24 – Selling to enterprise life sciences17:07 – Building trust through intros and relationships19:33 – Owning both sides: product and sales21:56 – The writing on the wall after 10KSB24:45 – Kristen's Colby profile and systems for sales25:50 – Why process builds confidence in sales28:07 – Trust recession and the power of a real convo31:43 – Why life sciences felt like home35:25 – Balancing delivery with marketing38:18 – Doubling down on strengths with Substack40:00 – What Kristen's excited about next

In this heartfelt and practical episode, we sit down with Kim John Payne—renowned author, family counselor, and pioneer of the Simplicity Parenting movement—to explore what it really means to stay grounded when our children are falling apart. Drawing from his book Being at Your Best When Your Kids Are at Their Worst, Kim shares compassionate, actionable strategies to help parents move from reactivity to calm responsiveness.Together, we unpack why children's emotional storms can feel so triggering, how to navigate them without losing our own footing, and what it looks like to model regulation and resilience in the moment. Whether you're parenting a toddler mid-tantrum or a teen in meltdown, this episode offers tools that support connection over correction, and presence over perfection.If you've ever wondered how to remain the “safe harbor” in the midst of your child's chaos, this conversation is for you.To find out more about Kim's incredible work, click here: https://www.simplicityparenting.com/Being at Your Best When Your Kids are at their Worst: https://www.amazon.ca/Being-Your-Best-Their-Worst/dp/1611802148PatreonCome on over and join us on Patreon where we have bonus episodes, extra episode content , toolboxes , discounts for our courses, our ebook, a parent community and so much more - we would love to have you! Click here for more. Wanting more from ICP? Get 50 % off our annual membership with the coupon code: PODCAST5090+ courses on parenting and children's mental healthPrivate community where you can feel supportedWorkbooks, parenting scripts, and printablesMember-only Webinars Course Certificates for Continuing EducationAccess to our Certification ProgramLive Q & A Sessions for Parents & ProfesssionalsBi-Annual Parenting & Mental Health ConferencesDownloadable Social Media CollectionRobust Resource LibraryClick here for more Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Search is rapidly changing as traffic is being redistributed across platforms, with AI overviews and LLMs dramatically changing how users find information and interact with brands.• Two distinct camps exist in responding to AI changes: those who see it as a threat versus those who view it as an unprecedented opportunity• Despite traffic metrics declining, brand visibility may actually be increasing in places you can't easily measure• Media Mix Modeling (MMM) is emerging as a better way to evaluate marketing impact versus traditional attribution models• Website traffic is down approximately 58.5% due to zero-click searches and AI interfaces• Successful businesses need to focus on their topical authority rather than trying to rank for everything• Content pruning has become essential as excess pages create friction that slows down site performance• Understanding your ideal customer profile (ICP) and focusing on their specific needs is critical• LLMs are increasingly integrated with search engines, creating a merged experience for users• SERP analytics has replaced simple rank tracking as the way to measure competitive positioning------------Guest Contact Information: - https://www.demandsphere.com/demo/?affiliate_id=matt_bertram- https://www.linkedin.com/in/raygrieselhuber/ —----------More from EWR and Matt:Leave a Review if it was content you enjoyed: https://g.page/r/CccGEk37CLosEB0/reviewFree SEO Consultation: https://www.ewrdigital.com/discovery-callOne-on-One Consulting: https://www.ewrdigital.com/digital-strategy-consulting/private-consulting-session—The Unknown Secrets of Internet Marketing podcast is a podcast hosted by Internet marketing expert Matthew Bertram. The show provides insights and advice on digital marketing, SEO, and online business. Topics covered include keyword research, content optimization, link building, local SEO, and more. The show also features interviews with industry leaders and experts who share their experiences and tips. Additionally, Matt shares his own experiences and strategies, as well as his own successes and failures, to help listeners learn from his experiences and apply the same principles to their businesses. The show is designed to help entrepreneurs and business owners become successful online and get the most out of their digital marketing efforts.Find more great episodes here: https://www.internetmarketingsecretspodcast.com/  https://seo-podcast-the-unknown-secrets-of-internet-marketing.buzzsprout.comFollow us on:Facebook: @bestseopodcastInstagram: @thebestseopodcastTiktok: @bestseopodcastLinkedIn: @bestseopodcastPowered by: ewrdigital.comHosts: Matt Bertram Disclaimer: For Educational and Entertainment purposes only.Support the show

This week, join Peter and Chris as they deep dive into the fifth track off Freek Show by Twiztid, "fuckonthe1stdate" and the remix. Sit back and listen as they dissect the lyrics and content of the track, discuss the comeback of 'steez,' talk about Lisa vs Jenny, and tackle important topics like if Freekshow is a concept album!      TIME STAMPS! 0:00:00 (Start/Spooky Movie Review)    0:12:02 (Spooky Movie Review)    0:19:28 (Back to the Intro!)    0:23:21 (SummerSlam Preview)    0:27:36 (Tale of the Tape)    0:34:19 (Lyrical Deep Dive)    1:42:37 (Wrapping This Boy Up)      The LinkTree can be found at https://linktr.ee/juggalorwd. Otherwise here are all of our links -  Twitter/X: @JuggaloRWD  IG: @JuggaloRWD  Facebook: @JuggaloRWD  TikTok: @JuggaloRWD  Threads: @JuggaloRWD  BlueSky: @JuggaloRWD  The website is www.JuggaloRewind.com.  Join us on the ICPWWE Discord and talk to other listeners and podcast hosts about Psychopathic Records, ICP, Twiztid and random juggalo nonsense.  Email us at juggalorwd@gmail.com or call/text us at (810) 666-1570.        Join our Patreon! For only 5 bucks a month, you can get two bonus episodes and more! Become a member of the Phat or Wack Pack today! -- Juggalo Rewind Patreon.      Additional music provided by Steve O of the IRTD. Voiceover work provided by Christmas. The Rewind is forever powered by the 20x20 Apparel.   All music played is owned by the respective publishers and copywrite holders and is reproduced for review purposes only under fair use. Thank you to Majik Ninja Entertainment for allowing us to bring this podcast to all of the juggalos worldwide. #ForTheJuggaloCulture

Emma Burrows is Co-Founder & CTO of Portia AI, the platform to build AI agents in regulated environments. Their open source Python SDK provides a developer framework for predictable and stateful agentic workflows. Portia AI has raised around $5M from investors including General Catalyst and First Minute Capital.In this episode, we dig into:Why they built an end-to-end platform from agent planning to deployment The focus on accuracy as their true north star metric Their paid contribution program How their found their initial ICP in regulated industries Why 2026 will be the year of agents Her best fundraising advice (hint: never really stop fundraising)

In this episode, Talya Heller, founder of Down to a T, joins Louise Liu to share her framework for finding product differentiation. She walks through the steps to identify distinct capabilities, build a clear ICP, and go beyond features to stand out in the market. Talya also shares tips on aligning teams around your differentiators and creating a competitive matrix that enables better messaging and sales execution.Listen to the full interview above or read the highlights from the conversation at pmmhive.comAll rights reserved. © Product Marketing Hive.

In this episode of the Child Psych Podcast, Tammy Schamuhn interviews Sue McIntosh, a pioneer in equine-assisted therapy. They discuss the transformative power of horses in therapeutic settings, particularly for children facing trauma and emotional challenges. Sue shares her journey into this field, the importance of creating safety in therapy, and how horses can help regulate the nervous system. The conversation also delves into attachment theory and its relevance in equine therapy, highlighting the relational nature of both horses and humans.Sue's website is full of free resources and is fantastic: https://healinghooves.ca/author/suemcintosh/PatreonCome on over and join us on Patreon where we have bonus episodes, extra episode content , toolboxes , discounts for our courses, our ebook, a parent community and so much more - we would love to have you! Click here for more. Wanting more from ICP? Get 50 % off our annual membership with the coupon code: PODCAST5090+ courses on parenting and children's mental healthPrivate community where you can feel supportedWorkbooks, parenting scripts, and printablesMember-only Webinars Course Certificates for Continuing EducationAccess to our Certification ProgramLive Q & A Sessions for Parents & ProfesssionalsBi-Annual Parenting & Mental Health ConferencesDownloadable Social Media CollectionRobust Resource LibraryClick here for more Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Guest: Vaughn English   Guest Bio: Vaughn English is a growth-focused sales leader with over 10 years of experience driving revenue across industries including digital marketing, 3D visualization, tourism, and insurance. He has a proven track record of building high-performing outreach strategies, leading cross-functional teams, and closing complex B2B deals. Vaughn specializes in leveraging CRM platforms, marketing automation, and creative campaigns to engage prospects and accelerate the sales cycle. From launching national tourism campaigns to scaling 3D content solutions for enterprise clients, he brings a consultative approach that aligns client goals with actionable solutions. Vaughn thrives at the intersection of strategy, creativity, and execution, consistently turning opportunities into lasting partnerships. ​ Key Points: Background and Path to Sales Started in theater; transitioned to sales due to communication skills and confidence. First job: selling DirecTV inside Costco, a challenging experience that taught resilience. Gradually moved into more prestigious roles, now at Fracture.   Role at Fracture Tasked with building the B2B infrastructure from scratch, including identifying the ideal customer profile (ICP), creating case studies, lookbooks, product menus, and developing marketing and outreach processes.   Finding the Ideal Customer Profile (ICP) Initially targeted hospitality, but realized sales cycles are very long. Exploring design firms and higher education as more promising ICPs. Higher ed (e.g., Boston College) often needs ongoing art installations, recognition plaques, etc., making them strong repeat buyers.   CRM and Sales Technology Strong proponent of using CRMs despite challenges. Believes CRMs are essential for organizing contacts and outreach, launching automated email campaigns, and tracking sales activity.    Sales Outreach Strategy Focuses heavily on cold email campaigns. Personalized and well-researched. Uses intent data (from sources like ZoomInfo, Bombora) to identify companies showing buying signals. Example: campaign to Ben & Jerry's using their "Flavor Graveyard" as a custom subject line. Warm leads via email before calling; cautious about cold calling personal cell phones (though interviewer disagrees).   Team Dynamics and Management Style Small team (essentially 2 people); the other focuses on account management. Balances trust with light micromanagement, uses CRM visibility (e.g., BCCs, task tracking) to monitor activity, steps in when new leads aren't followed up quickly enough. Believes in hiring people he can trust to reduce the need for hovering.   Challenges and Learnings Struggles with ensuring consistent follow-up on new leads while handling large ongoing projects. Building out processes and infrastructure in real-time while scaling the B2B arm. Emphasizes that real ICP identification comes through direct conversations and testing. Guest Links: vaughn.english@fractureme.com Connect on LinkedIn     About Salesology®: Conversations with Sales Leaders Download your free gift, The Salesology® Vault. The vault is packed full of free gifts from sales leaders, sales experts, marketing gurus, and revenue generation experts. Download your free gift, 81 Tools to Grow Your Sales & Your Business Faster, More Easily & More Profitably. Save hours of work tracking down the right prospecting and sales resources and/or digital tools that every business owner and salesperson needs. If you are a business owner or sales manager with an underperforming sales team, let's talk. Click here to schedule a time. Please subscribe to Salesology®: Conversations with Sales Leaders so that you don't miss a single episode, and while you're at it, won't you take a moment to write a short review and rate our show? It would be greatly appreciated! To learn more about our previous guests, listen to past episodes, and get to know your host, go to https://podcast.gosalesology.com/ and connect on LinkedIn and follow us on Facebook and Instagram, and check out our website at https://gosalesology.com/. 

Remember when your musical taste knew no boundaries? When your Discman would jump from ICP to Britney Spears without missing a beat? This episode is a love letter to that chaotic musical era that shaped us.We kick things off with some seriously infectious earworms—Thumpasaurus's "Struttin'" and Ween's "Boys Club"—songs that plant themselves in your brain and refuse to leave. These quirky, catchy tunes lead us down memory lane to our guiltiest musical pleasures from the late 90s and early 2000s.The conversation takes a nostalgic turn as we revisit our teenage obsessions with Insane Clown Posse's "Riddle Box" album and Bloodhound Gang's irreverent catalog. We reflect on a time when MTV's TRL would showcase Korn, Limp Bizkit, and Enrique Iglesias "Bailamos" in the same hour—a musical diversity that seems increasingly rare in today's algorithm-driven world.Gaming enthusiasts will appreciate our deep dive into College Football 26, where we break down the gameplay challenges, Road to Glory mode, and how this latest installment captures the authentic college football experience. From high school recruitment to dodging Nebraska's defense as an Ohio State quarterback, the game delivers an immersive and surprisingly difficult challenge.Film buffs aren't left out either, as we share our thoughts on the new Superman movie (spoiler: it's better than Man of Steel) and the profound impact of finally watching Schindler's List. We wrap things up by exploring some outstanding female-fronted metal bands that deserve more recognition.Whether you're looking to rediscover the soundtrack of your youth or find some new music to add to your playlist, this episode bridges past and present with equal parts nostalgia and discovery. Drop us a comment with your own musical guilty pleasures—we promise not to judge!Send us a text message and let us know how awesome we are! (Click the link)!Support the show'Beavis and Butt-head' Cover art created by Joe Crawford

This week, join Peter and Chris as they deep dive into the fourth track off Freek Show by Twiztid, "Fall Apart." Sit back and listen as they dissect the lyrics and content of the track, discuss AI in the Juggalo World, talk about drinking gasoline in Taylor, and tackle important topics like "the voicemail" and your bulldoggin' ass!      TIME STAMPS! 0:00:00 (Start)    0:15:45 (Tale of the Tape)    0:24:15 (Lyrical Deep Dive)    0:51:07 (Alternate Version)    0:54:01 (The Voicemail    1:06:14 (Wrapping This Boy Up)      The LinkTree can be found at https://linktr.ee/juggalorwd. Otherwise here are all of our links -  Twitter/X: @JuggaloRWD  IG: @JuggaloRWD  Facebook: @JuggaloRWD  TikTok: @JuggaloRWD  Threads: @JuggaloRWD  BlueSky: @JuggaloRWD  The website is www.JuggaloRewind.com.  Join us on the ICPWWE Discord and talk to other listeners and podcast hosts about Psychopathic Records, ICP, Twiztid and random juggalo nonsense.  Email us at juggalorwd@gmail.com or call/text us at (810) 666-1570.      Additional music provided by Steve O of the IRTD. Voiceover work provided by Christmas. The Rewind is forever powered by the 20x20 Apparel.   All music played is owned by the respective publishers and copywrite holders and is reproduced for review purposes only under fair use. Thank you to Majik Ninja Entertainment for allowing us to bring this podcast to all of the juggalos worldwide. #ForTheJuggaloCulture

In this eye-opening episode, Tania sits down with Constable Stephanie Bosch and Constable Scott Sterling from the Internet Child Exploitation (ICE) Unit to talk about the realities of online harm to children. Together, they unpack the rise of sextortion, the growing trend of youth sharing explicit images, and the sophisticated tactics offenders use to target children online.This is a must-listen for every parent, caregiver, and educator. Constbale Stephanie and Constable Scott offer practical, real-world advice for keeping kids safe in an increasingly digital world—what to watch for, how to start difficult conversations with your child, and the steps to take if something goes wrong.This episode is not about fear: it's about awareness, education, and empowering families with the tools to protect their children online.To find out more about the incredible work of I.C.E., click hereOther important links:Canadian Centre for Child Protection: https://protectchildren.ca/en/Thorn: https://www.thorn.org/about/PatreonCome on over and join us on Patreon where we have bonus episodes, extra episode content , toolboxes , discounts for our courses, our ebook, a parent community and so much more - we would love to have you! Click here for more. Wanting more from ICP? Get 50 % off our annual membership with the coupon code: PODCAST5090+ courses on parenting and children's mental healthPrivate community where you can feel supportedWorkbooks, parenting scripts, and printablesMember-only Webinars Course Certificates for Continuing EducationAccess to our Certification ProgramLive Q & A Sessions for Parents & ProfesssionalsBi-Annual Parenting & Mental Health ConferencesDownloadable Social Media CollectionRobust Resource LibraryClick here for more Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Childhood-onset hydrocephalus encompasses a wide range of disorders with varying clinical implications. There are numerous causes of symptomatic hydrocephalus in neonates, infants, and children, and each predicts the typical clinical course across the lifespan. Etiology and age of onset impact the lifelong management of individuals living with childhood-onset hydrocephalus. In this episode, Casey Albin, MD, speaks with Shenandoah Robinson, MD, FAANS, FAAP, FACS, author of the article “Childhood-onset Hydrocephalus” in the Continuum® June 2025 Disorders of CSF Dynamics issue. Dr. Albin is a Continuum® Audio interviewer, associate editor of media engagement, and an assistant professor of neurology and neurosurgery at Emory University School of Medicine in Atlanta, Georgia. Dr. Robinson is a professor of neurosurgery, neurology, and pediatrics at Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine in Baltimore, Maryland. Additional Resources Read the article: Childhood-onset Hydrocephalus Subscribe to Continuum®: shop.lww.com/Continuum Earn CME (available only to AAN members): continpub.com/AudioCME Continuum® Aloud (verbatim audio-book style recordings of articles available only to Continuum® subscribers): continpub.com/Aloud More about the American Academy of Neurology: aan.com Social Media facebook.com/continuumcme @ContinuumAAN Host: @caseyalbin Full episode transcript available here Dr Jones: This is Dr Lyell Jones, Editor-in-Chief of Continuum. Thank you for listening to Continuum Audio. Be sure to visit the links in the episode notes for information about earning CME, subscribing to the journal, and exclusive access to interviews not featured on the podcast. Dr Albin: Hi, this is Dr Casey Albin. Today I'm interviewing Dr Shenandoah Robinson about her article on childhood onset hydrocephalus, which appears in the June 2025 Continuum issue on disorders of CSF dynamics. Dr Robinson, thank you so much for being here. Welcome to the podcast. I'd love to start by just having you briefly introduce yourself to our audience. Dr Robinson: I'm a pediatric neurosurgeon at Johns Hopkins, and I'm very fortunate to care for kids and children from the neonatal intensive care unit all the way up through young adulthood. And I have a strong interest in developing better treatments for hydrocephalus. Dr Albin: Absolutely. And this was a great article because I really do think that understanding how children with hydrocephalus are treated really does inform how we can care for them throughout the continuum of their lifespan. You know, I was shocked in reading your article about the scope of the problem for childhood onset hydrocephalus. Can you walk our listeners through what are the most common reasons why CSF diversion is needed in the pediatric population? Dr Robinson: For the United States, and Canada too, the most common reasons are spina bifida---so, a baby that's born with a myelomeningocele and then develops associated hydrocephalus---and then about equally as common is posthemorrhagic hydrocephalus of prematurity, congenital causes such as from aquaductal stenosis, and other genetic causes are less common. And then we also have kids that develop hydrocephalus after trauma or meningitis or tumors or other sort of acquired problems during childhood. Dr Albin: So, it's a really diverse and sort of heterogeneous causes that across sort of the, you know, the neonatal period all the way to, you know, young adulthood. And I'm sure that those etiologies really shift based on sort of the subgroup population that you're talking about. Dr Robinson: Yes, they definitely shift over time. Fortunately for our kids that are born with problems that raise concerns, such as myelomeningocele or if they're born preterm, they sort of declare themselves by the time they're a year old. So, if you're an adult provider, they should have defined themselves and it's unlikely that they will suddenly develop hydrocephalus as a teenager or older adult. Dr Albin: Totally makes sense. I think many of the listeners to this podcast are adult neurologists who are probably very familiar with external ventriculostomies for temporary CSF diversion, and with the more permanent ventricular peritoneal shines or ventricular atrial or plural shines that are needed when there's the need for permanent diversion. But you described in your article two procedures that provide temporary CSF diversion that I think many of our listeners are probably not as familiar with, which is the ventricular access devices and ventriculosubgaleal shunts. Can you briefly describe what those procedures provide? Who are the candidates for them? And then what complications neurologists may need to think about if they're consulted for comanagement in one of these complex patients? Dr Robinson: Well, the good thing is that if as an adult neurologist you encounter someone with, you know, residual tubing from one of these procedures, you are unlikely to need to do anything about it. So, we put in ventricular access device or ventriculosubgaleal shunts, usually in newborns or infants. And sometimes when they no longer need the device, we just leave it in because that saves them an extra surgery. So, if you encounter one later on, it's most likely you won't need to do anything. Often if the baby goes on to show that they need a permanent shunt, we go ahead and put in that permanent shunt. We may or may not go back and take out the reservoir or the subgaleal shunt. The reservoir and subgaleal shunts are often put in the frontal location. Sometimes we'll put the permanent shunt in the occipital location and just leave the residual tubing there. So, you're very unlikely to need to intervene with a reservoir or subgaleal shunt if you encounter an older child or adult with that left in. We use these in the small babies because the external ventricular drains that we're very familiar with have a very high complication rate in this population. In the adult ICU, you often see these, and maybe there's, you know, a few percent risk of infection. It actually heads into 20 to 25% in our preterm infants and other newborns that require one of these devices for drainage. So, we try not to use external ventricular drains like we use in older patients. We use the internalized device: either the ventricular reservoir with a little area for us to tap every day, every other day; or the ventriculosubgaleal shunt, which diverts the spinal fluid to a pocket in the scalp. So, we use these in preterm infants that are too tiny for a permanent shunt. And for some of our babies that are born, for example, with an omphalocele, that we can't use their peritoneal cavity and so we need some temporizing device to manage their CSF. Dr Albin: Totally makes sense. And so just to clarify, I mean, this is a tube that's placed into the ventricles of the brain and then it's tunneled into the subgaleal space and the collection, the CSF, just builds up there, like? Dr Robinson: Yeah. Dr Albin: And over time either, you know, the baby will learn how to account for that extra CSF, and then I guess it's just reabsorbed? Dr Robinson: Yeah. When it's present, though, it looks like maybe, I don't know if you're familiar with like a tissue expander. There is this bubble of fluid under the scalp, but it's prominent, it can be several centimeters in diameter. Dr Albin: Wow, that's just absolutely fascinating. And I don't think I've ever had the opportunity to see this in clinical practice. I've really learned quite a bit about this. I assume that these children are going to go on to get some sort of permanent diversion. And then, you know, over time, those permanent shunts do create a lot of problems. And so, I was hoping you could kind of walk us through, you know, what are some of the things that you're seeing that you're concerned about? And then if you've just inherited a patient who had a shunt placed at, say, a different institution, how do you go about figuring out what kind of shunt it is and if they're still dependent on it? Dr Robinson: There's a few things that, fortunately, technology is helping with. So, it is much easier now for patients to get their images uploaded to image-sharing software, and then we can download their images into our institutional software, which is very helpful. Another option is that we are strongly encouraging our families to use a app such as HydroAssist that's available from the Hydrocephalus Association. So that's an app that goes on your phone, and you can upload the images from an MRI or a CT scan or x-rays from a shunt series. And then that you can take if you're traveling and you have to go to emergency department or you're establishing care with a new provider, you can have your information right there and not be under stress to remember it. It also has areas so you can record the type of valve. And all of our valves have pluses and minuses, they all tend to malfunction a little bit. And they can be particularly helpful with different types of hydrocephalus. I really doubt that we're going to narrow down from the fifteen or so valves we have access to now. And so, recording your valve type, the manufacturer as well as the setting, is very helpful when you're transferring care or if you're traveling and then have to, unfortunately, stop in the emergency department. Dr Albin: Yeah, I thought that was a really great pearl that, like, families now are empowered to sort of take control of understanding sort of the devices that they have, the settings that they're using. And what an incredible thing for providers who are going to care for these patients who, you know, unfortunately do end up in centers that are not their primary center. The other challenge that I find… I practice as a neurointensivist, and sometimes patients come in and they have a history of being shunt dependent and they present with a neurologic change. And I think that we as neurologists can be a little quick to blame the shunt and want the shunt to be tapped. And I was really struck in reading this article about the complexity of shunt taps. And I was hoping, you know, can you kind of walk us through what's involved and maybe why we should have a little bit of a higher threshold before just saying, ah, just have the neurosurgeons tap the shunt. Like, it's not that straightforward. Dr Robinson: And it may depend on the population you're caring for. So, when I was at a different institution, we actually published that there's about a 5% complication rate from shunt taps. And that may be- that was in pediatric patients. And again, that may be population dependent, but you can introduce infection to a perfectly clean shunt by doing a shunt tap. You can also cause an acute shunt malfunction. So that's why we tend to prefer that only neurosurgeons are doing shunt taps for evaluation of a shunt malfunction. There are times that, for example, our patients who are getting intrathecal chemotherapy or something have a CSF access device like an Ommaya reservoir, and other providers may tap that reservoir to instill medicine. But that's different than an evaluation, like, you're talking about somebody with a neurological change. And so, it is possible that if somebody has small ventricles or something, if you tap that shunt, you can take a marginally functioning shunt and turn it into an acute proximal malfunction, which is an emergency. Dr Albin: Absolutely. I think that's a fantastic pearl for us to take away from this. It's just that heightened level. And kind of on the flip side of that, you know, and I really- I do feel for us when we're trying to kind of, you know, make a case that it's, it's not the shunt. Many of our shunted patients also have a lot of neurologic complexity, which I think you really talked upon in this article. I mean, these are patients who have developmental cognitive delays and that they have epilepsy and that they're at risk for, you know, complications from prematurity, since that's a very common reason that patients are getting shunts. But from your experience as a neurosurgeon, what are some of the features that make you particularly concerned about shnut malfunction? And how do you sort of evaluate these patients when they come in with that altered mental status? Dr Robinson: It is challenging, especially for our patients that have, you know, some intellectual delay or other difficulties that make it hard for them to give an accurate history. Problem is, if they're sick and lethargic, they may not remember the symptoms that they had when they were sick. But sometimes there's hopefully there's a family member present that does remember and can say, oh, no, this is what they look like when they have a viral illness. And this is different from when they have the shot malfunction, which was projectile emesis, not associated with a fever. It's rare to have a fever with a shunt malfunction, although shunt infection often presents with malfunction. So, it's not completely exclusionary. We often look at the imaging, but it's taking the whole picture together. Some of the common other diagnoses we see are severe constipation that can decrease the drainage from the shunt and even cause papilledema in some people. So, we look at that as well on the shunt series. It's very important to have the shunt series if you're concerned about shunt malfunction or- the shunt tubing is good. It tends to last maybe 20to 25 years before it starts to degrade. And so, you may have had a functioning shunt for decades and it worked well and you're very dependent on it, and then it breaks and you become ill. But on the flip side, we have patients that have had a broken shunt for years, they just didn't know about it. And we don't want to jump in and operate on them and then cause complexities. And so, it is a challenge to sort out. The simplest thing is obviously if they come in and their ventricles are significantly larger, and that goes along with a several-hour or a couple-day deterioration, that's a little more clear-cut. Dr Albin: Absolutely. And you talked about this shunt series. What other imaging- and, sort of maybe walk us through, what's involved in a shunt series, what are you looking at? And then what other imaging is sort of your preferred method for evaluating these patients? Dr Robinson: In adult patients, the shunt series is the x-ray from the entire shunt. And so, if they have an atrial shunt, that would be skull x-ray plus a chest x-ray; or the shunt ends in the perineal cavity, it goes to the perineum. And we're looking for continuity. We're looking for the- sometimes as people grow and age, the ventricular catheter can pull out of the ventricle. So, we're looking to make sure that the ventricular catheter is in an optimal position relative to the skull. We can also look at the valve setting to see the type of valve. So, that can also be helpful as well. And then in terms of additional imaging, a CT scan or an MRI is helpful. If you don't know what type of valve they have, they should not, ideally, go in the MRI scanner. We like to know what their setting is before they go in the MRI because we're going to have to reset the valve after they come out of the MRI if it's a programmable valve. Dr Albin: This is fantastic. I've heard several pearls. So, one is that with the shunt series, which, am I correct in understanding those are just plain X-rays? Dr Robinson: Yes. Dr Albin: Right. Then we can look for constipation, and that might be actually something really serious in a pediatric patient that could clue us in that they could actually be developing hydrocephalus or increased ICP just because of the abdominal pressure. And then that we need to be mindful of what are the stunt settings before we expose anyone to the MRI machine. Is that two good takeaways from all of this? Dr Robinson: Yes. And it's very rare that there'll be an MRI tech that will allow a patient with a valve in the MRI without knowing what it is. So, they have their job security that way. But yeah, if you're not sure, just go ahead and get the CT. Obviously, in our younger kids, we're trying to avoid CT scans. But if you're weighing off trying to decide if somebody has a shunt malfunction versus, you know, waiting 12 or 24 hours for an MRI, go ahead and get the CT. Dr Albin: Absolutely. I love it. Those are things I'm going to take with me for this. I have one more question about these shunts. So, every now and then, and I think you started to touch on this, we will get a shunt series and we'll see that the catheter is fractured. Do the patients develop little- like, a tract that continues to allow diversion even though the catheter is fractured? Dr Robinson: Yes. So, they can develop scar tissue around, and some people have more scar tissue than others. You'll even see that sometimes, say, the catheter has fractured and we'll take out that old fractured tubing and put in new tubing on the other side. But if you go and palpate their neck or chest, you'll still feel that tract is there because it calcifies along the tract. Some patients drain through that calcified tract for weeks or months without symptoms, and then it can occlude off. So, we don't consider it a reliable pathway. It's also not a reliable pathway if you're positioned prone in the OR. So some of our orthopedic colleagues, for example, if they go to do a spine fusion, we like to confirm that the shunt is working before you undergo that long anesthesia, but also that you're going to be positioned prone and you could potentially- you know, the pressure could occlude that track that normally is open. Dr Albin: This is fantastic. I feel like I've gotten everything I've ever wanted to know about shunts and all of their complications in this, which is, you know, this is really difficult. And I think that because we are not trained to put these in, sometimes we see them and we just say, oh, it's fractured that must be a malfunction. But it's good to know that sometimes those patients can drain through, you know, a sort of scarred-down tract, but that it may not be nearly as reliable as when they have the tubing in place. Another really good thing that I'm going to put in my back pocket for the next time I see a patient with a potential shunt malfunction. Dr Robinson: And we do have some patients that the tubing is fractured years ago and they don't need it repaired, and that totally can be challenging when they then transfer to your practice for follow-up care. We tend to follow those patients very closely, both our clinic visits as well as having them seen by ophthalmology. So, there are teenagers and young adults out there that have… their own system has recovered and they are no longer shunt-dependent; and they may have a broken shunt and not actually be using that track, but they usually have had fairly intensive follow up to prove that they're not shunt-dependent. And we still have a healthy respect there that, you know, if they start to get a headache, we're going to take that quite seriously as opposed to, you know, some of our shunt patients, about 10 to 20%, have chronic headaches that are not shunt-related. So, not everybody who has a headache and has a shunt has a shunt malfunction. It's tough. Dr Albin: This is really tough. That actually brings me to sort of the last clinical scenario that I was hoping we could get your perspective on. And I think this would be of great interest to neurologists, especially in the context that these children may develop headaches that have nothing to do with the shunt. I'd like to sort of give you this hypothetical case that I'm a neurologist seeing a patient in clinic and it's a teenager, maybe a young adult, and they had a shunt placed early in childhood. They've done really well. And they've come to me for management of a new headache. And, you know, as part of this workup, their primary care provider had ordered an MRI. And, you know, I look at the MRI, and I don't think that the ventricles look really enlarged. They don't look overdrained. Is having an MRI that looks pretty okay, is that enough to exonerate the shunt in this situation? Dr Robinson: In most cases it is. The one time that we don't see a substantial change in the ventricles is if we have a pseudocyst in the abdomen. The ventricles cannot enlarge initially, and then later on they might enlarge. So, we see that sometimes that somebody will come in and their ventricles will be stable in size, but we're still a little bit suspicious. They've got this persistent headache. They may have, you know, some emesis or loss of appetite, loss of activity, and a slower presentation than you would get with an acute proximal malfunction. We can check an abdominal ultrasound for them. And sometimes, even though the ventricles haven't changed in size, they still have a malfunction because they have that distal pseudocyst. One of the questions that we ask our patients when we're establishing care, in addition to what valve type they have and what sort of their shunt history or other interventions such as endoscopic third ventriculostomy, is to ask if their ventricles enlarge when they have a shunt malfunction. There is a small fraction where they do not. They kind of have a stiff brain, if you will. And so, it's good to know that. That's one of the key factors is asking somebody, do the ventricles enlarge when they have a malfunction? If they have enlarged in the past, they're likely to enlarge again if they have a malfunction. But again, it's not 100%. So, in peds, 20% of the time the ventricles don't enlarge. So, in adults, I'm not that- you know, I don't know what percentage it is, but it's something to consider that you can have a stable ventricular size and still have a shunt malfunction. So, if your clinical judgment, you're just kind of, like, still uneasy, you know, respect that and maybe do a little more workup. That's why we so much want patients to establish care with somebody, whether it's a neurologist or a neurosurgeon or other provider in some areas that have fewer neurospecialists, but to establish care so that you all know what a change is for that patient. That's really important. Dr Albin: That's fantastic. So, to summarize that, it's really important to understand the patient's baseline and how they presented with prior shunt complications, if they've had some. That if they're coming in with a new headache that we don't have a baseline, so, we should just have a heightened level of awareness that, like, the shunt has a start and it has an end. And even if the start of the shunt in the brain looks okay, there still could be the potential for complications in the abdomen. And maybe the third thing I heard from that is that we should look for GI symptoms and sort of be aware of when there could be a complication in the abdomen as well. Does that all sound about right? Dr Robinson: And especially for our kids with spina bifida and for posthemorrhagic hydrocephalus are now adults, because the preterm infants are prone to necrotizing enterocolitis. And they may not have had surgery for it, but they still may have adhesions and other things that predispose them to develop pseudocysts over time. And then our individuals with spina bifida often have various abdominal surgeries and other procedures to help them manage their bowel and bladder function. And so that can also create adhesions that then predisposes to pseudocysts. So, we do have a healthy respect for that. In addition, it used to be---because we have gotten a little better with shunts over time---it used to be, like, when I was in training that you heard, you know, if you haven't had a shunt malfunction for 10 or 15 years, you must- you may no longer be dependent. And that's not really true. There are some people who outgrow their need for shunt dependence, but not everyone does outgrow it. And so, you can be 15, 20 years without a shunt revision and still be shunt-dependent. Dr Albin: Those are fantastic pearls. I think most of them, walking away with this, like, a very healthy respect for the fact that these are complex patients, which the shunt is one component of sort of the things that can go wrong and that we have to have a really healthy respect and really detailed investigation and sort of take the big picture. I really like that. Dr Robinson: Yeah, I know. I think it's- there's a very strong push amongst pediatric neurosurgery and a lot of the related, our colleagues in other areas, to develop multidisciplinary transition clinics and lifespan programs for these patients to help keep everything else optimized so that they're not coming in, for example, with seizures. But then you have to figure out if this is a seizure or a shunt; you know, if we can keep them on track, if we can keep them healthy in all their other dimensions, it makes it safer for them in terms of their shunt malfunction. Dr Albin: Absolutely. I love that, and just the multidisciplinary preventative aspect of trying to keep these patients well. So important. Dr Robinson, I really would like to thank you for your time. We're getting towards the end of our time together. Are there any other points about the article that you just are anxious that leave the readers with, or should I just direct them back to the fantastic review that you've put together on this topic? Dr Robinson: No, I think that we covered a lot of the high points. I think one of the really exciting things for hydrocephalus is that there's a lot of investigations into other options besides shunts for certain populations. We are seeing less hydrocephalus now with the fetal repair of the myelomeningocele, which is great. And we're trying to make inroads into posthemorrhagic hydrocephalus as well. So, there are a lot of great things on the horizon and, you know, hopefully someday we won't have the need to have these discussions so much for shunts. Dr Albin: I love it. I think that's really important. And all of those points were touched on the article. And so, I really invite our listeners to go and check out the article, where you can see sort of, like, how this is evolving in real time. Thank you, Dr Robinson. Please go and check out the childhood-onset hydrocephalus article, which appears in the most recent issue of Continuum on the disorders of CSF dynamics. And be sure to check out Continuum Audio episodes from this and other issues. Thank you again to our listeners for joining us today. And thank you, Dr Robinson. Dr Robinson: Thanks for having me. Dr Monteith: This is Dr Teshamae Monteith, Associate Editor of Continuum Audio. If you've enjoyed this episode, you'll love the journal, which is full of in-depth and clinically relevant information important for neurology practitioners. Use the link in the episode notes to learn more and subscribe. AAN members, you can get CME for listening to this interview by completing the evaluation at continpub.com/audioCME. Thank you for listening to Continuum Audio.

In this episode of In-Ear Insights, the Trust Insights podcast, Katie and Chris discuss how to unlock hidden value and maximize ROI from your existing technology using AI-powered “manuals on demand.” You will discover how targeted AI research can reveal unused features in your current software, transforming your existing tools into powerful solutions. You will learn to generate specific, actionable instructions that eliminate the need to buy new, expensive technologies. You will gain insights into leveraging advanced AI agents to provide precise, reliable information for your unique business challenges. You will find out how this strategy helps your team overcome common excuses and achieve measurable results by optimizing your current tech stack. Tune in to revolutionize how you approach your technology investments. Watch the video here: Can’t see anything? Watch it on YouTube here. Listen to the audio here: https://traffic.libsyn.com/inearinsights/tipodcast-how-to-improve-martech-roi-with-generative-ai.mp3 Download the MP3 audio here. Need help with your company’s data and analytics? Let us know! Join our free Slack group for marketers interested in analytics! [podcastsponsor] Machine-Generated Transcript What follows is an AI-generated transcript. The transcript may contain errors and is not a substitute for listening to the episode. Christopher S. Penn – 00:00 In this week’s In Ear Insights, let’s get a little bombastic and say, Katie, we’re gonna double everyone’s non-existent ROI on AI with the most unused—underused—feature that literally I’ve not seen anyone doing, and that is manuals on demand. A little while ago, in our AI for Market Gender VI use cases for marketers course and our mastering prompt engine for Marketers course and things like that, we were having a conversation internally with our team saying, hey, what else can we be doing to market these courses? One of the things that occurred to me as I was scrolling around our Thinkific system we used is there’s a lot of buttons in here. I don’t know what most of them do, and I wonder if I’m missing something. Christopher S. Penn – 00:53 So, I commissioned a Deep Research report in Gemini saying, hey, this is the version of Thinkific we’re on. This is the plan we’re on. Go do research on the different ways that expert course creators market their courses with the features in Thinkific. It came back with a 28-page report that we then handed off to Kelsey on our team to say, hey, go read this report and see, because it contains step-by-step instructions for things that we could be doing in the system to upsell and cross-sell our courses. As I was thinking about it, going, wow, we should be doing this more often. Christopher S. Penn – 01:28 Then a friend of mine just got a new phone, a Google Pixel phone, and is not skilled at using Google’s all the bells and whistles, but she has a very specific use case: she wants to record concert videos with it. So I said, okay, let’s create a manual for just what features of the Pixel phone are best for concerts. Create a step-by-step explanation for a non-technical user on how to get the most out of the new phone. This gets me thinking across the board with all these things that we’re already paying for: why aren’t more of us creating manuals to say, hey, rather than go buy yet another tool or piece of software, ask one of the great research agents, hey, what are we not using that we should be. Katie Robbert – 02:15 So, it sounds like a couple of different things. There’s because you’re asking the question, what are we not using that we could be, but then there’s an instruction manual. Those are kind of two different things. An instruction manual is meant to be that A to Z, here’s everything it does, versus what are we specifically not using. I feel like those are two different asks. So, I guess my first question to you is, doesn’t most software come with some kind of an instruction manual or user guide these days? Or is that just, it no longer does that. Christopher S. Penn – 02:52 It does. There’s usually extensive documentation. I misspoke. I should have said manuals on demand specifically for the thing that you want. So yes, there’s a big old binder. If you were to print out the HubSpot CRM documentation, it’d be a 900-page document. No one’s going to read that. But I could use a Deep Research tool to say, how can I use just this feature more effectively? Given here’s who Trust Insights is, here’s how our marketing was. Here’s the other tools we use. How could I use this part of HubSpot better? Instead of getting all 900 pages of the manual, I get a manual of just that thing. That’s where I think, at least for me personally, the opportunity is for stuff that we’re already paying for. Christopher S. Penn – 03:32 Why pay for yet another tool and complicate the Martech stack even more when there might be a feature that we’re already paying for that we just don’t even know is there. Katie Robbert – 03:45 It, I feel like, goes to a couple of things. One, the awareness of what you already have in front of you. So, we’re a smaller company, and so we have a really good handle on all of the tools in our tech stack. So, we have the luxury of being able to say these are the goals that we have for the business. Therefore, what can—how can we use what we already have? Whereas if you’re in a more enterprise-sized company or even a mid-sized company where things are a little bit more siloed off, that’s where those teams get into the, “well, I need to buy something to solve this problem.” Katie Robbert – 04:23 Even though the guy on the other side of the cubicle has the tech that I need because of the firewall that exists or is virtual, I can’t use it. So, I have to go buy something. And so, I feel like—I don’t know—I feel like “manual” is the wrong word. It sounds like what you’re hitting on is, “this is my ICP”, but maybe it’s a different version of an ICP. So, what we typically—how we structure ICPs—is how we can market to and sell to specific prospective customers based on their demographics, technographics, pain points, buying patterns, the indicators that a digital transformation is coming, those kinds of things. Katie Robbert – 05:09 It sounds like there’s a need for a different version of an ICP that has a very specific pain point tied to a specific piece of technology or a marketing campaign or something like that. I feel like that would be a good starting place. It kind of always starts with the five Ps: What is the problem you’re trying to solve? Who are the people? What is the process that you currently have or are looking to do? What is the platform that you have in front of you? And then what is your performance metric? I feel like that’s a good starting place to structure this thinking because I’m following what you’re saying, Chris, but it still feels very big and vague. So, what I’m trying to do is think through how do I break it down into something more consumable. Katie Robbert – 05:56 So for me, that always kind of starts with the five Ps. So, what you’re describing, for example, is the purpose: we want to market our courses more efficiently through our Thinkific system. The people are Kelsey, who leads a lot of that, you as the person who owns the system, and then our ICP, who’s going to buy the courses. Process: That’s what we’re trying to figure out is what are we missing. Platform: We already know it’s our Thinkific, but also the different marketing channels that we have. Performance would be increased core sales. Is that an accurate description of what you’re trying to do? Christopher S. Penn – 06:42 It is. To refine the purpose even more, it’s, “what three features could we be using better?” So, I might even go in. In the process part, I might say, hey, I’m going to turn on a screen share and record my screen as I click through our Thinkific platform and hand that to a tool like Gemini and say, “what am I not using?” I don’t use a section, I use this section. Here’s what I’ve got in this section. I don’t know what this button does. And having it almost do an audit for us of, “yeah, there’s that whole bundle order bundles thing section here that you have no bundles in there.” Christopher S. Penn – 07:20 But you could be creating bundles of your courses and selling a pack of courses and materials, or making deluxe versions, or making pre-registration versions. Whatever the thing is, another simple example would be if we follow the five Ps, Katie: you’ve got a comprehensive outline of the AI-Ready Marketing Strategy Kit Course slide deck in a doc. Your purpose is, “I want to get this slide deck done, but I don’t want to do it slide by slide.” You’re the people. The process right now is manually creating all 100x slides. The platform is Google Slides. The performance would be—if we could find a way to automate that somehow with Google Slides—the huge amount of time saved and possibly your sanity. Katie Robbert – 08:13 Put a price on that one. Christopher S. Penn – 08:16 Yeah. So, the question would be, “what are we missing?” What features are already there that we’re already paying for in our Google Workspace subscription that we could use now? We actually did this as an exercise ourselves. We found that, oh yeah, there’s Apps Script. It exists, and you can write code right in Google Slides. That would be another example, a very concrete example, of could we have a Deep Research agent take this specific problem, take the five Ps, and build us a manual on demand of just how to accomplish this task with the thing we’re already doing. Katie Robbert – 08:56 So, a couple more questions. One, why Deep Research and why not just a regular LLM like ChatGPT or just Gemini? Why the Deep Research specifically? And, let’s start there. Christopher S. Penn – 09:14 Okay, why? The Deep Research is because it’s a research agent. It goes out, it finds a bunch of sources, reads the sources, applies our filtering criteria to those sources, and then compiles and synthesizes a report together. We call, it’s called a research agent, but really all it is, is an AI agent. So, you can give very specific instructions like, “write me a step-by-step manual for doing this thing, include samples of code,” and it will do those things well with lower hallucinations than just asking a regular model. It will produce the report exactly the way you want it. So, I might say, “I want a report to do exactly this.” Katie Robbert – 09:50 So, you’re saying that Deep Research hallucinates less than a regular LLM model. But, in theory—I’m just trying to understand all the pieces—you could ask a standard LLM model like Claude or Gemini or ChatGPT, go find all the best sources and write me a report, a manual if you will, on how to do this thing step-by-step. You could do that. I’m trying to understand why a Deep Research model is better than just doing that, because I don’t think a lot of people are using Deep Research. For you, what I know at least in the past month or so is that’s your default: let me go do a Deep Research report first. Not everybody functions that way. So, I’m just trying to understand why that should be done first. Christopher S. Penn – 10:45 In this context, it’s getting the right sources. So, when you use a general LLM, it may or may not—unless you are super specific. Actually, this is true of everything. You have to be super specific as to what sources you want the model to consider. The difference is, with Deep Research, it uses the sources first, whereas in a regular model, it may be using its background information first rather than triggering a web search. Because web search is a tool use, and that’s extra compute that costs extra for the LLM provider. When you use Deep Research, you’re saying you must go out and get these sources. Do not rely on your internal data. You have to go out and find these sources. Christopher S. Penn – 11:27 So for example, when I say, hey, I’m curious about the effects of fiber supplements, I would say you must only use sources that have DOI numbers, which is Document Object Indicator. It’s a number that’s assigned only after a paper has passed peer review. By saying that, we reject all the sources like, oh, Aunt Esther’s healing crystals blog. So, there’s probably not as much useful information there as there is in, say, something from The New England Journal of Medicine, which, its articles are peer-reviewed. So, that’s why I default to Deep Research, because I can be. When I look at the results, I am much more confident in them because I look at the sources it produces and sites and says, “this is what I asked for.” Christopher S. Penn – 12:14 When I was doing this for a client not too long ago, I said, “build me a step-by-step set of instructions, a custom manual, to solve and troubleshoot this one problem they were having in their particular piece of software.” It did a phenomenal job. It did such a good job that I followed its instructions step-by-step and uncovered 48 things wrong in the client software. It was exactly right because I said you must only use the vendor’s documentation or other qualified sources. You may not use randos on Reddit or Twitter, or whatever we’re calling Twitter these days. That gave me even specifying it has to be this version of the software. So, for my friend, I said, “it has to be only sources that are about the Google Pixel 8 Pro.” Christopher S. Penn – 13:03 Because that’s the model of phone she has. Don’t give me stuff about Pixel 9, don’t give me stuff about Samsung phones. Don’t give me stuff about iPhones, only this phone. The Deep Research agents, when they go out and they do their thing, reject stuff as part of the process of saying, “oh, I’ve checked this source and it doesn’t meet the criteria, out it goes.” Katie Robbert – 13:27 So, all right, so back to your question of why aren’t people building these instruction manuals? This is something. I mean, this is part of what we talk about with our ICPs: a lot of people don’t know what the problem is. So, they know that something’s not quite right, or they know that something is making them frustrated or uncomfortable, but that’s about where it stops. Oftentimes your emotions are not directly tied to what the actual physical problem is. So, I feel like that’s probably why more people aren’t doing what you’re specifying. So, for example, if we take the Thinkific example, if we were in a larger company, the conversation might look more like the CFO saying, “hey, we need more core sales.” Katie Robbert – 14:27 Rather than looking at the systems that we have to make promotion more efficient, your marketing team is probably going to scramble and be like, “oh, we need to come up with six more campaigns.” Then go to our experts and say, “you need four new versions of the course,” or “we need updates.” So, it would be a spiral. What’s interesting is how you get from “we want more course revenue” to “let me create a manual about the system that we’re using.” I feel like that’s the disconnect, because that’s not. It’s a logical step. It’s not an emotionally logical step. When people are like, “we need to make more money,” they don’t go, “well, how can we do more with the systems that we have?” Christopher S. Penn – 15:31 It’s interesting because it actually came out of something you were saying just before we started this podcast, which was how tired you are of everybody ranting about AI on LinkedIn. And just all the looniness there and people yelling the ROI of AI. We talked about this in last week’s episode. If you’re not mentioning the ROI of what you’re doing beforehand, AI is certainly not going to help you with that, but it got me thinking. ROI is a financial measure: earn minus spent divided by spent. That’s the formula. If you want to improve ROI, one of the ways you can do so is by spending less. Christopher S. Penn – 16:07 So, the logical jump that I made in terms of this whole Deep Research approach to custom-built manuals for specific problems is to say, “what if I don’t need to add more vendors? What if I don’t need?” This is something that has come up a lot in the Q&A, particularly for your session at the AI for B2B Summit. Someone said, “how many MarTech tools do we need? How many AI tools do we need? Our stack is already so full.” “Yeah, but are you using what you’ve already got really well?” And the answer to that is almost always no. I mean, it’s no for me, and I’m a reasonably technical person. Christopher S. Penn – 16:43 So, my thinking along those lines was, then if we’re not getting the most out of what we’re already paying for, could we spend less by not adding more bills every month and earn more by using the features that are already there that maybe we just don’t know how to use? So, that’s how I make that leap: to think about, go from the problem and being on a fire to saying, “okay, if ROI is what we actually do care about in this case, how do we earn more and spend less? How do we use more of what we already have?” Hence, now make custom manuals for the problems that we have. A real simple example: when we were upgrading our marketing automation software two or three weeks ago, I ran into this ridiculous problem in migration. Christopher S. Penn – 17:28 So, my first instinct was I could spend two and a half hours googling for it, or I could commission a Deep Research report with all the data that I have and say, “you tell me how to troubleshoot this problem.” It did. I was done in 15 minutes. Katie Robbert – 17:42 So, I feel like it’s a good opportunity. If you haven’t already gotten your Trust Insights AI-Ready Marketing Strategy Kit, templates and frameworks for measurable success, definitely get it. You can get it at Trust Insights AIkit. The reason I bring it up, for free—yes, for free—the course is in the works. The course will not be free. The reason I bring it up is because there are a couple of templates in this AI readiness kit that are relevant to the conversation that Chris and I are having today. So, one is the basic AI ROI projection calculator, which is, it’s basic, but it’s also fairly extensive because it goes through a lot of key points that you would want to factor into an ROI calculation. Katie Robbert – 18:31 But to Chris’s point, if you’re not calculating ROI now, calculating it out for what you’re going to save—how are you going to know that? So, that’s part one. The other thing that I think would be really helpful, that is along the lines of what you’re saying, Chris, is the Top Questions for AI Marketing Vendors Cheat Sheet. Ideally, it’s used to vet new vendors if you’re trying to bring on more software. But I also want to encourage people to look at it and use it as a way to audit what you already have. So, ask yourself the questions that you would be asking prospective vendors: “do we have this?” Because it really challenges you to think through, “what are the problems I’m trying to solve? Who’s going to use it?” Katie Robbert – 19:17 What about data privacy? What about data transformation? All of those things. It’s an opportunity to go, “do we already have this? Is this something that we’ve had all this time that we’re, to your point, Chris, that we’re paying for, that we’re just not using?” So, I would definitely encourage people to use the frameworks in that kit to audit your existing stuff. I mean, that’s really what it’s meant to do. It’s meant to give you a baseline of where you’re at and then how to get to the next step. Sometimes it doesn’t involve bringing on new stuff. Sometimes it’s working with exactly what you have. It makes me think of people who start new fitness things on January 1st. This is a very specific example. Katie Robbert – 20:06 So, on January 1st, we’re re-energized. We have our new goals, we have our resolutions, but in order to meet those goals, we also need new wardrobes, and we need new equipment, and we need new foods and supplements, and all kinds of expensive things. But if you really take a step back and say, “I want to start exercising,” guess what? Go walk outside. If it’s not nice outside, do laps around your house. You can do push-ups off your floor. If you can’t do a push-up, you can do a wall push-up. You don’t need anything net new. You don’t need to be wearing fancy workout gear. That’s actually not going to make you work out any better. It might be a more mental thing, a confidence thing. Katie Robbert – 20:54 But in all practicality, it’s not going to change a damn thing. You still have to do the work. So, if I’m going to show up in my ripped T-shirt and my shorts that I’ve been wearing since college, I’m likely going to get the same health benefits if I spent $5,500 on really flimsy-made Lululemon crap. Christopher S. Penn – 21:17 I think that right there answers your question about why people don’t make that leap to build a custom manual to solve your problems. Because when you do that, you kind of take away the excuses. You no longer have an excuse. If you don’t need fancy fitness equipment and a gym membership and you’re saying, “I can just get fit within my own house with what I’m doing,” then I’m out of excuses. Katie Robbert – 21:43 But I think that’s a really interesting angle to take with it: by actually doing the work and getting the answers to the questions. You’re absolutely right. You’re out of excuses. To be fair, that’s a lot of what the AI kit is meant to do: to get rid of the excuses, but not so much the excuses if we can’t do it, but those barriers to why you don’t think you can move forward. So, if your leadership team is saying, “we have to do this now,” this kit has all the tools that you need to help you do this now. But in the example that you’re giving, Chris, of, “I have this thing, I don’t know how to use it, it must not be the right thing.” Let me go ahead and get something else that’s shinier and promises to solve the problem. Katie Robbert – 22:29 Well, now you’re spending money, so why not go back to your point: do the Deep Research, figure out, “can I solve the problem with what I have?” The answer might still be no. Then at least you’ve said, “okay, I’ve tried, I’ve done my due diligence, now I can move on and find something that does solve the problem.” I do like that way of thinking about it: it takes away the excuses. Christopher S. Penn – 22:52 Yeah, it takes away excuses. That’s uncomfortable. Particularly if there are some people—it’s not none of us, but some people—who use that as a way to just not do work. Katie Robbert – 23:05 You know who you are. Christopher S. Penn – 23:07 You know who you are. You’re not listening to this podcast because. Katie Robbert – 23:10 Only motivated people—they don’t know who they are. They think they’re doing a lot of work. Yes, but that’s a topic for another day. But that’s exactly it. There’s a lot of just spinning and spinning and spinning. And there’s this—I don’t know exactly what to call it—perception, that the faster you’re spinning, the more productive you are. Christopher S. Penn – 23:32 That’s. The more busy you are, the more meetings you attend, the more important you are. No, that’s just. Katie Robbert – 23:38 Nope, that is actually not how that works. But, yeah, no, I think that’s an interesting way to think about it, because we started this episode and I was skeptical of why are you doing it this way? But now talking it through, I’m like, “oh, that does make sense.” It does. It takes away the excuses of, “I can’t do it” or “I don’t have what I need to do it.” And the answer is, “yeah, you do.” Christopher S. Penn – 24:04 Yep. Yeah, we do. These tools make it easier than ever to have a plan, because I know there are some people, and outside of my area’s expertise, I’m one of these people. I just want to be told what to do. Okay, you’re telling me to go bake some bread. I don’t know how to do that. Just tell me the steps to give me a recipe so I can follow it so I don’t screw it up and waste materials or waste time. Yeah. Now once I had, “okay, if I something I want to do,” then I do it. If it’s something I don’t want to do, then now I’m out of excuses. Katie Robbert – 24:40 I don’t know. I mean, for those of you listening, you couldn’t see the look on my face when Chris said, “I just want to be told what to do.” I was like, “since when?” Outside of. Christopher S. Penn – 24:50 “My area of expertise” is the key phrase there. Katie Robbert – 24:56 I sort of. I call that my alpha and beta brain. So, at work, I have the alpha brain where I’m in charge. I set the course, and I’m the one who does the telling. But then there are those instances, when I go volunteer at the shelter, I shut off my alpha brain, and I’m like, “just tell me what to do.” This is not my. I am just here to help to sandwich, too. So, I totally understand that. I’m mostly just picking on you because it’s fun. Christopher S. Penn – 25:21 And it’s Monday morning. Katie Robbert – 25:23 All right, sort of wrapping up. It sounds like there’s a really good use case for using Deep Research on the technology you already have. Here’s the thing. You may not have a specific problem right now, but it’s probably not the worst idea to take a look at your tech stack and do some Deep Research reports on all of your different tools. Be like, “what does this do?” “Here’s our overall sales and marketing goals, here’s our overall business goals, and here’s the technology we have.” “Does it match up? Is there a big gap?” “What are we missing?” That’s not a bad exercise to do, especially as you think about now that we’re past the halfway point of the year. People are already thinking about annual planning for 2026. That’s a good exercise to do. Christopher S. Penn – 26:12 It is. Maybe we should do that on a future live stream. Let’s audit, for example, our Modic marketing automation software. We use it. I know, for example, the campaign section with the little flow builder. We don’t use that at all. And I know there’s value in there. It’s that feature in HubSpot’s, an extra $800 a month. We have it for free in Modic, and we don’t use it. So, I think maybe some of us. Katie Robbert – 26:37 Have asked that it be used multiple times. Christopher S. Penn – 26:42 So now, let’s make a manual for a specific campaign using what we know to do that so we can do that on an upcoming live stream. Katie Robbert – 26:52 Okay. All right. If you’ve got some—I said okay, cool. Christopher S. Penn – 26:58 If you’ve got some use cases for Deep Research or for building manuals on demand that you have found work well for you, drop by our free slacker. Go to Trust Insights AI analytics for marketers, where you and over 4,000 other marketers are asking and answering each other’s questions every day about analytics, data science, and AI. Wherever it is you watch or listen to the show, if there’s a challenge you’d rather have it on. Instead, go to Trust Insights AI TI Podcast where you can find us in all the places great podcasts are served. Thanks for tuning in. I’ll talk to you on the next one. Katie Robbert – 27:32 Want to know more about Trust Insights? Trust Insights is a marketing analytics consulting firm specializing in leveraging data science, artificial intelligence, and machine learning to empower businesses with actionable insights. Founded in 2017 by Katie Robbert and Christopher S. Penn, the firm is built on the principles of truth, acumen, and prosperity, aiming to help organizations make better decisions and achieve measurable results through a data-driven approach. Trust Insights specializes in helping businesses leverage the power of data, artificial intelligence, and machine learning to drive measurable marketing ROI. Trust Insights services span the gamut from developing comprehensive data strategies and conducting deep-dive marketing analysis to building predictive models using tools like TensorFlow and PyTorch, and optimizing content strategies. Katie Robbert – 28:25 Trust Insights also offers expert guidance on social media analytics, marketing technology (MarTech) selection and implementation, and high-level strategic consulting encompassing emerging generative AI technologies like ChatGPT, Google Gemini, Anthropic Claude, DALL-E, Midjourney, Stable Diffusion, and Meta Llama. Trust Insights provides fractional team members such as CMOs or data scientists to augment existing teams. Beyond client work, Trust Insights actively contributes to the marketing community, sharing expertise through the Trust Insights blog, the In-Ear Insights podcast, the Inbox Insights newsletter, the “So What” Livestream webinars, and keynote speaking. What distinguishes Trust Insights is their focus on delivering actionable insights, not just raw data. Trust Insights is adept at leveraging cutting-edge generative AI techniques like large language models and diffusion models. Yet they excel at exploring and explaining complex concepts clearly through compelling narratives and visualizations. Katie Robbert – 29:31 Data Storytelling—this commitment to clarity and accessibility extends to Trust Insights’ educational resources, which empower marketers to become more data-driven. Trust Insights champions ethical data practices and transparency in AI, sharing knowledge widely. Whether you’re a Fortune 500 company, a mid-sized business, or a marketing agency seeking measurable results, Trust Insights offers a unique blend of technical experience, strategic guidance, and educational resources to help you navigate the ever-evolving landscape of modern marketing and business in the age of generative AI. 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Want our 10 Vibe Code Prompts? Get it here: https://clickhubspot.com/aeh Ep. 345 Is “vibe coding” the most addictive and important new skill for marketers in 2025? Kieran dives into how any marketer can quickly build lightweight tools and apps using AI and no-code platforms like ChatGPT, Perplexity Labs, and Replit. Learn more on defining your ICP (ideal customer profile) in record time, generating powerful code-powered lead magnets, and why building product demos and interactive experiences is now the ultimate way to attract and convert your audience. Mentions ChatGPT https://chatgpt.com/ Perplexity https://www.perplexity.ai/ Replit https://replit.com/ Lovable https://lovable.dev/ Jason Lemkin https://x.com/jasonlk Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt We're creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you're facing at work or in your business. To understand your biggest challenges we've put together a survey and we'd love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research Resource [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip We're on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg  Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod  Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don't forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934   If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar   Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat  ‘Marketing Against The Grain' is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.

This week, join Peter and Chris as they deep dive into the third track off Freek Show by Twiztid, "We Don't Die." Sit back and listen as they dissect the lyrics and content of the track and its other versions, discuss different eras in the Juggalo World, talk about famous doctors in wrestling, and tackle important topics like the Power Of Love and Huey Lewis!      TIME STAMPS! 0:00:00 (Start)    0:12:24 (Spooky Movie Reviews)     0:21:12 (Tale of the Tape)    0:39:26 (Lyrical Deep Dive)    1:11:03 (Different Versions/Remix)    1:22:00 (Wrapping Up)      The LinkTree can be found at https://linktr.ee/juggalorwd. Otherwise here are all of our links -  Twitter/X: @JuggaloRWD  IG: @JuggaloRWD  Facebook: @JuggaloRWD  TikTok: @JuggaloRWD  Threads: @JuggaloRWD  BlueSky: @JuggaloRWD  The website is www.JuggaloRewind.com.  Join us on the ICPWWE Discord and talk to other listeners and podcast hosts about Psychopathic Records, ICP, Twiztid and random juggalo nonsense.  Email us at juggalorwd@gmail.com or call/text us at (810) 666-1570.      Additional music provided by Steve O of the IRTD. Voiceover work provided by Christmas. The Rewind is forever powered by the 20x20 Apparel.   All music played is owned by the respective publishers and copywrite holders and is reproduced for review purposes only under fair use. Thank you to Majik Ninja Entertainment for allowing us to bring this podcast to all of the juggalos worldwide. #ForTheJuggaloCulture

Comments and No Mas: We the CommentBack Kings and we highlight some recent YouTube comments. We also have an update on the "No Mas" situation and find that the beef with Mary Ellen Trainor might be deeper than we thought. Corey Characters Interview: Corey sits in with Gentry Thomas, who seems to know how to properly handle Corey and keep his attitude in check. Corey's Twitter: Corey's Birthday Bash is coming up, do we have to go? Also Corey defends Hooking Up, Jared Leto Joker Girlfriend is only 26 and more! COREY FELDMAN!, SHOW STOPPER!, LET'S JUST TALK!, DON CHEADLE!, BOOGIE NIGHTS!, JIM AND THEM IS POP CULTURE!, YOU KNOW THAT!, FELDDOGSUMMER!, THIS IS A COREY FELDMAN SHOW!, REAL ONES!, NMAN!, VIDEO!, STAY COOL!, EVIL NICK!, MID NICK!, GOOD NICK!, GET SUCKED!, JIMMY!, WOLF PACK!, YOUTUBE MEMBERS STREAM!, COREY FELDMAN'S BIRTHDAY!, 25K SUBSCRIBERS!, MUSIC VIDEO PACT!, CHARACTERS!, CHACHING!, COMMENT OF THE WEEK!, HISTORY!, 18 YEARS!, ICP!, MIRACLES!, NO MAS!, GOONIES HOUSE!, MARY ELLEN TRAINOR!, NO SEQUEL FOR HER!, MOST ETHICAL AI!, SCREAMO ASCENSION MILLENIUM!, GENTRY THOMAS!, THE BEATLES!, INSPIRED!, SAME STORIES!, COREY'S ANGELS!, SKIPPED!, MICHAEL JACKSON!, BB KING!, WEIRD AI YANKOVIC!, WOKE GROK!, GERK!, QUIT SMOKING!, HEART SURGEON!, 30 YEARS!, RECOVERY!, EARPODS!, AIRPODS!, BIRTHDAY BASH!, SECURITY!, CONCERT!, EAT YOUR VEGETABLES!, FUN FOR EVERYONE ELSE!, YOUNG!, AGE!, HOOKING UP!, POST CREDITS!, DOUCHEBAGS!, BIOPIC!  You can find the videos from this episode at our Discord RIGHT HERE!

Jim and Them Wedding Bells: We get a call from Kody that is legit calling from his Wedding Night, a NEW milestone! Quiet Place Monsters: Jim faces an emotional crisis as he imagines the Quiet Place aliens arriving and having to sacrifice his Yorkie, Caesar. Palette Cleansers: We got some nice calls, we check in on Dank Demoss and the dough covered in flies. THE BEAR!, FUCK YOU, WATCH THIS!, DEFTONES!, MY OWN SUMMER (SHOVE IT)!, 871 PART 2!, BABY DICK!, JUNETEENTH!, RUNNING THE BOARDS!, CLIPS!, TAKE A PISS!, LUSCIOUS LIPS!, KODY!, SEVEJAX!, CALL IN!, WEDDING DAY!, RELATIONSHIP!, 2013!, PAUSE!, AYO!, CEREMONY TYPE!, ELOPED!, FAMILY GET TOGETHER!, CANADA!, WEDDING SONG!, THE KILLERS!, WEDDING TOAST!, 9/11 BOYS!, JAKE!, BRIAN!, KODY AND BRITNEY!, CHARLIE!, BURGER WOLF!, P-52S!, PATRICK!, CHARLIE!, WASTE OF TIME!, FRIENDSHIP ARC!, SHOW BIBLE!, FORBIDDEN FRUIT!, WORK HUSBAND!, MAX MURDER!, EMOTIONAL!, QUIET PLACE!, ALIENS!, YORKIE!, STREAMATHON!, RAP OFF!, EROK!, EFFORT!, EMBRYO WATER!, THE WATER IS FINE!, WARM!, WOMB!, GEN X PODCAST!, COREY GOFUNDME!, VIOLENT J!, ICP!, ANDY LOWE!, SYDNEY!, DANK DEMOSS!, FAT!, SUED LYFT!, UBER!, PLAN B!, NUTTING IN ME!, KFC!, POPEYES!, SIT ON A FIRECRACKER!, FIREWORKS!, TERRY!, FLIES!, BEES!, DOUGH!, JUICE!, WHEELCHAIR!, JAUNDICE!, TIKTOK WEIRDOS!, IN ON THE BIT!, JESUS LOVES YOU!, FUCKED UP!  You can find the videos from this episode at our Discord RIGHT HERE!

Industrial expansion has left an indelible mark on our natural world, fundamentally altering landscapes and ecosystems for the sake of material progress and modern convenience. This transformation has created an environmental challenge of unprecedented scale. In today's show, we'll connect the dots between the raw materials that make up our planet and the industrial forces visually altering our contemporary landscape in a chat with a photographer who's documented these profound global changes firsthand for the past 50 years. Applying visual principals rooted in abstract expressionist painting, Edward Burtynsky has explored a wide range of photographic tools in his image making—from large format film to high-res digital cameras mounted to the most sophisticated of drones. Included among our many discussion topics are his distinctive approach to translating a 3-D landscape to the flat plane of a photograph; his various methods for capturing aerials using either a helicopter, fixed wing aircraft, or various types of drones; and the early business epiphany that led him to open a photo lab as an income stream, rather than work as a camera for hire. As Burtynsky shares during our chat, about the connection between nature and industry: “You know, materials are an incredibly key part of modern society. And yet we need to go to sources in nature, where these materials are found. And I'm just reconnecting a reality that we still live in a material world, and our cities are built of molecules that came from somewhere, and I'm taking you to those places that are vast and huge.” Guest: Edward Burtynsky Episode Timeline: 2:58: Burtynsky's early interest in abstract expressionist painting combined with the magic and rituals of composing images with a large format camera 5:28: Planning for aerial views, the shift from using a minerals map in the past to Google Earth today, plus Burtynsky's shooting preferences between a helicopter and a drone and shooting open air. 10:22: Burtynsky's approach to translating a 3-D landscape to the flat plane of a photograph. 17:17: The planning and research behind Burtynsky's work vs the need to pivot in the field. 19:45: Adapting to technology over a 50-year career, and how it's shaped Burtynsky's process—from large format film to high end digital on a drone. 23:16: Episode Break 23:59: Burtynsky talks about permissions to access mines and industrial sites and how this has changed over time. 31:44: A wrong turn on the highway in 1981 and the photos that led Burtynsky to an epiphany about human-altered landscapes.  35:48: Burtynsky talks about forming his photo lab Toronto Image Works as a ballast to provide income in printing for other photographers while pursuing personal fine art photo projects. 43:38: Burtynsky's retrospective exhibit at the ICP in New York, his thoughts about the future of technology, plus recent collaborations with a young artist working in Artificial Intelligence.   Guest Bio:  Edward Burtynsky has spent more than 40 years bearing witness to the impact human industry on our planet. Regarded as one of the world's most accomplished contemporary photographers, Burtynsky's work is included in the collections of more than 80 museums worldwide and featured in major exhibitions around the globe. Born in St. Catharines, Ontario in 1955, Burtynsky's early exposure to a nearby General Motors plant and ships navigating the Welland Canal in his hometown captured his imagination, helping to formulate his ideas about the scale of human creation he would later capture in photographs. These images explore the collective impact we as a species have on the surface of this planet. A select list of Burtynsky's many distinctions include the inaugural TED Prize, the title of Officer of the Order of Canada, the International Center of Photography's Infinity Award for Art, a Royal Photographic Society Honorary Fellowship, and the World Photography Organization's Outstanding Contribution to Photography Award. Burtynsky currently holds nine honorary doctorate degrees, and in addition to his work in photography, he was a key production figure in the award-winning documentary film trilogy Manufactured Landscapes, Watermark, and ANTHROPOCENE: The Human Epoch. All three films continue to play in festivals around the world. Stay Connected: Website Instagram Facebook YouTube Linktree    - Host: Derek Fahsbender  Senior Creative Producer: Jill Waterman Senior Technical Producer: Mike Weinstein Executive Producer: Richard Stevens