Podcasts about b2b marketing

When AI feels like old news, the most remarkable storytellers don't just talk about it, they show you something you've never seen before.That's exactly what happens in Shell Game, the mind-bending podcast where journalist Evan Ratliff clones his voice and lets it interact with the world without anyone knowing it's not really him. In this episode, we explore the marketing lessons behind it with special guest Kelly Starman, Chief Marketing Officer at MasterControl.Together, we explore what B2B marketers can learn from leading with curiosity, making space for creative risk, and crafting weird, emotional stories that people can't help but talk about.About our guest, Kelly StarmanKelly Starman is a results-focused marketing executive with two decades of driving growth and leading high-performing teams. She has a strong track record in leading large-scale organizational change. Expertise in developing and implementing global go-to-market strategies in the healthcare and technology sectors, including positioning, branding & advertising, digital marketing, demand gen, and marketing automation. What B2B Companies Can Learn From Shell Game:Embrace the weird. Evan Ratliff's podcast stands out because it dares to be different. In B2B, weird isn't a liability—it's an asset. “So much of B2B marketing is just boring,” Kelly says. “I love the idea of being weird… tapping into that and being memorable makes for great marketing.” If your content doesn't break the pattern, it won't break through.Lead with curiosity. Shell Game works because it starts with a single, captivating question: what happens when you clone your own voice and let it speak for you? For Kelly, that spirit of experimentation is essential in modern marketing. “I have not had more fun in my career than I've had in the past six months,” she says. “It has been incredible to really step back and think about what is possible with all this new technology.” Curiosity isn't just a mindset, it's a strategy for discovering what's next before your competitors do.Curate, don't just create. In a world of AI overload, audiences don't want more content, they want better content. That's where curation comes in. “I think there's just so much out there that I find myself really turning to like individuals that I trust,” Kelly says. As marketers, “How do you add value for your customers… where do you go for that curated content to stay as current as you can?” Being a trusted curator builds loyalty in a noisy market.Quote“So much of B2B marketing is just boring... I love the idea of being weird. I usually say like, I want this to be really bold. I want this to be really breakthrough and attention-grabbing."Time Stamps[0:55] Meet Kelly Starman, Chief Marketing Officer at MasterControl[01:07] Why Shell Game?[02:53] The Role of CMO at MasterControl[04:33] What is Shell Game?[12:39] Breaking Down the Content in Shell Game[24:57] B2B Marketing Lessons from Shell Game[28:20] Super Accelerated Learning Techniques[41:28] Mastercontrol's Marketing Strategy[44:38] Measuring ROI Strategically[47:56] Final Thoughts and TakeawaysLinksConnect with Kelly on LinkedInLearn more about MasterControlAbout Remarkable!Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction and fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at CaspianStudios.com. In today's episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.

In this episode of Confessions of a B2B Entrepreneur, Jeff Rudner, host of 5 to 50: Financial Strategies for Growing Companies, interviews Tom Hunt, Founder and CEO of Fame, to reveal how he built a B2B podcast agency to £4M ARR without external funding. Tom shares lessons from 17 previous business attempts, emphasizing the critical role of financial discipline and the power of hyper-focus on core services. Discover his unique risk assessment framework, practical EOS implementation, and the vital role of culture in scaling. This episode delivers actionable strategies on cash flow, profitability, operational efficiency, and team incentives, demonstrating why doing less exceptionally well is the key to lasting growth.

If your LinkedIn feed looks like a museum of giant n8n screenshots and “comment to get the guide” posts…good. That means the playbook works—when you do it right. Paolo breaks down the exact framework his agency uses to turn LinkedIn into a repeatable inbound lead engine for B2B—especially SaaS, agencies, and info businesses.What You'll LearnLead magnet mechanics that still crush: how to pick the right asset (templates vs. guides), formats that perform (Notion docs, Miro boards, short scroll videos), and the “perceived value + curiosity + scarcity” combo.Hooks that make people click “See more”: trigger desire, fear, or curiosity in the first 3 lines.Pattern interrupts that boost reach: why oversized workflows, zoom-ins, and 10-second sped-up videos spike hover time and help the algo.Profile-as-landing-page: how to structure your headline, Featured section, and CTAs to funnel traffic without tanking post reach.Nurture after the comment: DM prompts that qualify intent, when to drop case studies, and how to avoid low-intent “free audit” traps.Where this shines: B2B SaaS, agencies, consultants/coaches—audiences that are active on LinkedIn and buy from content.Paolo's Playbook (Step-by-Step)Pick the problem (one ICP pain your offer solves).Choose the asset format based on buyer type:Done-for-you buyers → plug-and-play templates.Education/info buyers → guides/videos.Design the preview media to signal value and create curiosity:Notion table of contents screenshot, massive Miro flow, or a 10-sec scroll video.Write the post like this:3-line hook (desire/fear/curiosity).Promise + what's inside.CTA to comment (optionally “repost for priority”).Light scarcity (e.g., 48-hour window).Delivery & DMs:Send the asset, ask an easy reply (“Are you posting on LinkedIn yet?”).Qualify with 1–2 follow-ups, then make a clear offer with outcomes + timeline (+ guarantee if you have one).Nurture cadence (next 2–3 days):Day 1: Case study (story format: before → intervention → after; CTA to book).Day 2: Technical value post (lower engagement is fine; it nurtures).Add strongest case studies to Featured on your profile.Links without nuking reach:Push to profile/Featured or drop links in comments; edit the post later to add the link after it's cooked.Tactical NuggetsComments > Likes (weightier signal + more hover time).Avoid bot pods; if you coordinate engagement, keep it real accounts and relationships.For SaaS without a free trial, push to a free setup/usage guide that inherently requires the product.Use storytelling in case studies; people remember transformations, not dashboards.If you're running volume lead magnets, expect lower engagement on deep-dive posts—that's normal and still effective.Tools & Formats MentionedNotion (TOC screenshot as lead magnet preview)Miro (big workflow screenshots)n8n (automation diagrams that stop the scroll)Short scroll videos (10–15s, autoplay pattern interrupt)AI voice agent (optional MOFU experiment to educate and qualify at scale before handing off to a human)Who This Works Best ForB2B SaaS (often top performer)AgenciesConsultants/CoachesAny ICP that's active on LinkedIn and buys based on content/authoritySponsorTalent Fiber — Hire world-class global talent (engineers with 7+ years' experience, U.S. time zones, excellent English) at ~⅓ U.S. cost. They're an outsourced HR partner, handling compliance, payroll, and employee happiness—with a free replacement if it doesn't work out. Learn more: talentfiber.comConnect with PaoloLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/leadgenwiz/

#271 GTM Engineering | In this episode, Dave is joined by John Short, CEO of Compound Growth Marketing, along with Cammy Keiler, Justin Johnson, and Dan Guenet. Together, they break down the rise of GTM engineering, what it is, how it differs from RevOps, and why B2B teams are investing in it.Dave and the crew cover:The core difference between RevOps and GTM engineering (and why the latter is more focused on building than just integrating)Real GTM engineering use cases, from AI-powered sales tools to mid-funnel campaigns that go way beyond ebooksHow GTM engineers are driving higher revenue per employee and why this role should be one of your first five marketing hiresWhether you're hiring or just GTM-curious, you'll leave this episode with a clear definition of the role, real-world examples, and tactical ways GTM engineers drive impact.Timestamps(00:00) - – Intro (03:33) - – Why this topic resonated with 1,200+ registrants (05:48) - – What even is **GTM engineering? (08:03) - – GTM engineering vs. RevOps vs. Marketing Ops (11:18) - – How AI is driving this role forward (14:28) - – Real examples: ABM campaigns, mid-funnel tools, sales call analysis (19:38) - – Tools GTM engineers are using today (Clay, Unify, GPTs) (23:03) - – Role of GTM engineering in revenue per employee (27:18) - – How GTM engineers enable sales + reduce headcount (31:33) - – What Dan actually does all day as a GTM engineer (36:23) - – Custom GPTs for sales and marketing teams (39:38) - – What MCP servers are (and why they matter) (44:08) - – Claude, Gamma, and AI-powered content systems (46:53) - – Why this isn't just PLG (or ABM, or RevOps) (50:43) - – When to hire a GTM engineer (53:23) - – Big feelings about the role (and why they exist) (55:33) - – Closing thoughts + what to take away Send guest pitches and ideas to hi@exitfive.comJoin the Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterCheck out the Exit Five job board: https://jobs.exitfive.com/Become an Exit Five member: https://community.exitfive.com/checkout/exit-five-membership***Today's episode is brought to you by Walnut.Why are we pouring all this effort into marketing just to push buyers to a “request a demo” or “contact sales” button?Come on, today's buyers don't want to talk to sales right away. They want to explore your product themselves, see how it works, and understand its value before booking a meeting.That's where Walnut comes in.Walnut empowers marketers and GTM teams to create interactive, self-guided product experiences in minutes. Embed these experiences on your site, in emails, or anywhere in your funnel to let buyers engage on their terms, from awareness to close and beyond. That's the beauty of Walnut - you're getting a platform that your sales and CS colleagues can use to showcase the product too.And the best part? You get real intent data—see which features prospects love, where they drop off, and what's actually driving pipeline. Demo Qualified Leads are the new MQL.Over 500 companies, like Adobe and NetApp, use Walnut to drive 2-3x higher website conversion rates and 7 figures in pipeline on a yearly basis. So do you want to drive more leads, shorten sales cycles, and actually show your product instead of hiding it behind another typical B2B CTA? Go check out Walnut.io. And if you tell them Dave from Exit 5 sent you, they'll build out your first demo for free!

On this episode of Campaign Chemistry, Luz Corona speaks with Jonathan Adashek, the SVP of marketing and communications at IBM. They explore how IBM's 113 year-old legacy fuels innovation, why story “showing” is central to brand identity and how career growth often emerges from uncomfortable moments. From the launch of the “Let's Create” campaign to weaving AI into the marketing strategy, Adashek discusses leadership lessons, team dynamics and the future of B2B marketing with humility and clarity. AI Deciphered is back—live in New York City this November 13th.Join leaders from brands, agencies, and platforms for a future-focused conversation on how AI is transforming media, marketing, and the retail experience. Ready to future-proof your strategy? Secure your spot now at aidecipheredsummit.com. Use code POD at check out for $100 your ticket! campaignlive.com What we know about advertising, you should know about advertising. Start your 1-month FREE trial to Campaign US.

In this episode of Women in B2B Marketing, Jane Serra sits down with Shannon Howard, Director of Customer and Content Marketing at Intellum, to talk about the real work behind building lasting customer relationships that drive retention, advocacy, and long-term brand love.From her early days in B2C to leading customer marketing in SaaS, Shannon shares how she has learned to scale connection without losing the human touch. The conversation covers what customer marketing really owns (hint: it is not just case studies), how to enable internal teams to advocate alongside your customers, and the power of being relentlessly curious about the people you serve.Jane and Shannon get into:Why customer marketing is about more than just advocacy and what else belongs under its umbrellaHow to stay close to your customers even without a big team or budgetThe overlooked art of marketing internal programs like customer educationWhy reverse multithreading and relationship redundancy matter more than everApproaching customers for feedback in ways that feel natural, not transactionalTurning negative experiences into opportunities to create new advocatesThe value of surprising and delighting customers, including supporting causes they care aboutHow customer marketing can also play a big role in Customer Success enablementExpanding the definition of “customer” to include past, future, and even non-paying advocatesBuilding trust with customers by treating them like people, not just personasKey Links:Guest: Shannon Howard: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shannonlagassehoward/Host: Jane Serra: https://www.linkedin.com/in/janeserra/––Like WIB2BM? Show us some love with a rating or review. It helps us reach more women marketers ready to take the mic.

In this episode of The Long Game Podcast, Alex Burkett interviews Logan Freeman, Global Head of SEO at ManyChat. Together they explore the evolving landscape of SEO in the AI era, particularly the rise of GEO (Generative Engine Optimization) and how it's changing everything from keyword strategy to attribution modeling. Logan shares tactical approaches for optimizing content for LLMs (large language models), including using FAQ schemas, focusing on off-page visibility, and thinking like a product marketer. They discuss how brand mentions are now more powerful than backlinks, why traditional SEO tools fall short for GEO, and how Logan approaches measurement when attribution is nearly impossible. The episode also explores LLM perception, off-site trust-building, and creative ways SEOs can future-proof their strategies by merging content, digital PR, and productKey TakeawaysSEO vs. GEO: Traditional SEO focuses on keywords, while GEO requires optimizing for hyper-personalized, conversational queries used in LLMs.LLM Perception Is Real: How AI models “perceive” your brand based on off-site mentions can limit (or expand) your visibility in AI answers.Brand Mentions > Backlinks: In the world of AI search, brand visibility across trusted platforms outweighs classic SEO signals like links.SEO as Product Marketing: SEOs must deeply understand users and position content like a PMM would—focused on problems, personas, and differentiation.Dark Attribution Is Growing: Most traffic influenced by LLMs doesn't click through—making measurement harder and more reliant on referral glimpses and qualitative insights.Go Beyond On-Page Optimization: Embedding schema, FAQs, and latent questions can increase the odds of being cited in LLMs.Get Creative with PR: To influence LLM results, you may need broad digital and traditional PR campaigns that shift how your brand is referenced across the web.Show LinksVisit ManychatConnect with Logan Freedman on LinkedInConnect with Alex Birkett on LinkedIn and TwitterConnect with Omniscient Digital on LinkedIn or TwitterSome interviews you might enjoy and learn from:Actionable Tips and Secrets to SEO Strategy with Dan Shure (Evolving SEO)Building Competitive Marketing Content with Sam Chapman (Aprimo)How to Build the Right Data Workflow with Blake Burch (Shipyard)Data-Driven Thought Leadership with Alicia Johnston (Sprout Social)Purpose-Driven Leadership & Building a Content Team with Ty Magnin (UiPath)Also, check out our Kitchen Side series where we take you behind the scenes to see how the sausage is made at our agency:Blue Ocean vs Red Ocean SEOShould You Hire Writers or Subject Matter Experts?How Do Growth and Content Overlap?Connect with Omniscient Digital on social:Twitter: @beomniscientLinkedin: Be OmniscientListen to more episodes of The Long Game podcast here: https://beomniscient.com/podcast/

Tanya Thorson is a marketing strategist and consultant who has worked with major brands like L.L. Bean and Lands' End. She is the founder of StrategiX Consulting and the co-author her new book, Get Off Your (M)ass!: Introducing B2A Business-to-(A)nyone Marketing, Reimagined, a book she wrote with her husband. Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/DS1fWR7ODjo  Connect with Tanya Thorson: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tanyathorson/ Buy your copy of "Get Off Your (M)ass!: Introducing B2A Business-to-(A)nyone Marketing, Reimagined": https://www.amazon.com/Get-Off-Your-ass-Business/dp/B0FDPXXVWB 

In this week's episode of the B2B Marketing Podcast, David Rowlands, Head of Product, B2B Marketing spoke with Jake Bird, Director, JI Marketing to discuss the importance of AI readiness and strategy. They discuss why AI should be woven into your operations not treated as a side project and the risks of relying too heavily on sales bots or overlooking legal issues with AI-driven content. Plus, if you want to find out Jake's view on the future of AI in marketing, we recommend staying tuned until the very end of this week's episode.

Gratis AI LEAD MAGNET GENERATOR ➔ Lead Magnet erstellen in 20 Min, der verkauft: https://xhauer.com/ai-generator-pod Lead-Magnet Praxis-Vorlagen gratis? ➔ Hier laden: https://xhauer.com/downloads-podcast In dieser Folge erfährst du, wie wir mit einem gezielten AI-Leadmagneten in nur 9 Tagen über 500 Leads aus der B2B-Zielgruppe gesammelt haben – fernab von Whitepaper und teuren Werbekampagnen. Mit klaren Schritt-für-Schritt-Beispielen aus der Praxis bekommst du die fünf wichtigsten Erkenntnisse, wie euer Leadmagnet wirklich einschlägt, welche Fehler fast alle machen und wie du die LinkedIn Kommentar-gegen-Asset-Strategie samt konkreter Vorlage sofort für dich einsetzt.ERWÄHNTE FOLGEN:➔ https://youtu.be/N_-q3zV5JhA Wenn du neu auf meinem Kanal bist:Mein Name ist Michael Asshauer. Ich bin Gründer und Geschäftsführer von XHAUER. Mein Team und ich helfen jeden Tag Anbietern im komplexen und technischen B2B, ihre Pipeline mit guten Verkaufsgelegenheiten zu füllen. Durch eine systematische Kombination aus Performance- und Content-Marketing. Ganz ohne Bunte-Bildchen-Marketing, sondern datengetrieben nach dem Grundsatz “Do more of what works”.Ein paar Fakten für dich, wie ich hierher gekommen bin und welche Reise ich auf diesem Kanal dokumentiere:25 Jahre: Gründung meines ersten Technologie-Unternehmens Familonet25 Jahre: Abschluss meiner Studiengänge Volkswirtschaftslehre, Betriebswirtschaftslehre und International Business (Hamburg & Melbourne)28 Jahre: Ausgründung unserer B2B-Software-Entwicklungsagentur onbyrd 30 Jahre: Übernahme unserer Unternehmen durch den Daimler-Konzern (heute Mercedes-Benz Group AG)31 Jahre: Gründung meiner Business-Content-Plattform “Machen!”32 Jahre: Gründung meines Performance-Recruiting-Unternehmens Talentmagnet (und anschließender Verkauf)34 Jahre: Gründung unserer B2B-Marketing-Agentur & Beratung XHAUER, gemeinsam mit Paula.Heute: Paula, unser Team und ich sind auf dem Weg, eine der besten B2B-Agenturen & Beratungen weltweit aufzubauen.Auf diesem Kanal teile ich alle Erkenntnisse, Learnings und Best Practices aus Tausenden Kampagnen offen mit dir, sodass du sie für euer Marketing anwenden kannst.Für B2B-Marketing, das die Pipeline füllt.Dein Michael Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

#270 Strategy | Dave is joined by Holly Xiao, Head of B2B Marketing at HeyGen, an AI video generation platform that helps teams produce personalized, high-quality content, fast. Holly has led marketing at high-growth startups and now runs the enterprise GTM motion at HeyGen, where she blends strategy, creative execution, and AI-powered workflows to reach modern B2B buyers.Dave and Holly cover:The 4 channels her lean team is betting on to drive enterprise pipeline (and what's not working anymore)How B2B marketers are using AI video for event marketing, sales enablement, onboarding, and beyondWhy SEO is falling short and how HeyGen is shifting focus to webinars, events, and YouTube insteadIf you're figuring out how to use AI in your marketing or just trying to do more with less, this one's full of practical ideas to help you think differently about team structure, channels, and strategy.Timestamps(00:00) - – Intro (03:48) - – Holly's nonlinear path to marketing (06:48) - – Getting started in marketing ops (08:48) - – Why she joined an AI startup (10:48) - – How HeyGen's marketing org works (13:48) - – PLG vs SLG: Key differences (15:48) - – The 4 channels driving pipeline (17:48) - – What's working: Events + webinars (19:48) - – Booth strategy that stands out (24:23) - – Brand vs demand events (26:23) - – Building community and user events (27:53) - – SEO is declining. Now what? (30:23) - – Running marketing in 2-month sprints (33:23) - – Aligning product and marketing cadence (35:23) - – Her daily AI tools (36:53) - – ChatGPT vs Gemini workflows (38:23) - – Real AI video use cases (40:23) - – Personalized event promos with avatars (41:23) - – Support, training, and onboarding videos (42:23) - – Fortune telling and music videos?! (43:23) - – Why AI won't replace marketers Send guest pitches and ideas to hi@exitfive.comJoin the Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterCheck out the Exit Five job board: https://jobs.exitfive.com/Become an Exit Five member: https://community.exitfive.com/checkout/exit-five-membership***Today's episode is brought to you by Walnut.Why are we pouring all this effort into marketing just to push buyers to a “request a demo” or “contact sales” button?Come on, today's buyers don't want to talk to sales right away. They want to explore your product themselves, see how it works, and understand its value before booking a meeting.That's where Walnut comes in.Walnut empowers marketers and GTM teams to create interactive, self-guided product experiences in minutes. Embed these experiences on your site, in emails, or anywhere in your funnel to let buyers engage on their terms, from awareness to close and beyond. That's the beauty of Walnut - you're getting a platform that your sales and CS colleagues can use to showcase the product too.And the best part? You get real intent data—see which features prospects love, where they drop off, and what's actually driving pipeline. Demo Qualified Leads are the new MQL.Over 500 companies, like Adobe and NetApp, use Walnut to drive 2-3x higher website conversion rates and 7 figures in pipeline on a yearly basis. So do you want to drive more leads, shorten sales cycles, and actually show your product instead of hiding it behind another typical B2B CTA? Go check out Walnut.io. And if you tell them Dave from Exit 5 sent you, they'll build out your first demo for free!

When your audience thinks they already know your story, the boldest brands flip the script and earn their attention in the process. That's exactly what happens in Wicked, the smash-hit film adaptation that reimagines one of pop culture's most iconic villains. In this episode, we explore the marketing lessons behind it with special guest Allison MacLeod, Chief Marketing Officer & GM of US Education at Flywire.Together, we explore what B2B marketers can learn from reframing brand narratives, building fan-level community, and executing with bold, high-stakes detail that actually gets noticed.About our guest, Allison MacleodAllison Macleod currently serves as Chief Marketing Officer & Head of US Education at Flywire (Nasdaq: FLYW), a global payments enablement & software company. At Flywire, Allison leads global marketing and revenue operations, & US Education sales, relationship management & pre-sales. She played a key role in guiding Flywire to a successful IPO in May 2021.Allison brings nearly 20 years of experience with a background spanning marketing and revenue-focused roles. Prior to Flywire, she spent seven years at Rapid7 (Nasdaq: RPD), where she played a pivotal role in building and scaling demand generation, business development, and analytics. Before that, she held various digital and field-based positions at Forrester, including launching the marketing function in EMEA.Outside of work, Allison sits on the Board of Trustees of the Massachusetts Technology Leadership Council and serves as a strategic advisor to early-stage companies through F-Prime & Underscore VC.What B2B Companies Can Learn From Wicked:Reframe what they think they know. Wicked works because it flips a legacy story on its head. The same power lies in brand repositioning. “How do you really reframe what people think they know about you and your brand,” Allison says. Whether it's entering new markets or expanding product lines, your biggest unlock might come from telling your old story in a completely new way.Community is your flywheel. Wicked isn't just a show, it's a movement. Audiences don't just watch it, they live it. That level of advocacy isn't accidental. “How do you really cultivate that community, whether that's your clients, the advocacy, and make people… feel that deep passion for what you do,” Allison asks. In B2B, fandom might look like retention, referrals, or customer-led storytelling, but it starts with emotional connection.Be bold and unforgettable. Every production choice in Wicked is a masterclass in attention to detail. From the live vocals to the stunts, they took creative risks that resonated. “How do you be bold and unforgettable,” Allison says. The safest move in saturated categories? Standing out.Quote“I think that's sort of the lesson and the beauty in this, taking something that everyone already thought they knew, and they thought they knew the story… and completely reframing it. And I think that's where you just think of us as businesses, us as consumers… there's so much clutter. So the brands that stick out and do things differently, and even if it is trying the same channel but in a different way, there's so much power in that."Time Stamps[0:55] Meet Allison MacLeod, Chief Marketing Officer & GM of US Education at Flywire[01:05] Why Wicked?[02:29] The Role of CMO at Flywire[04:00] Breaking Down of Wicked[09:22] B2B Marketing Takeaways from Wicked[21:54] The Appeal of Villains and Taking Risks[23:37] The Power of Visual Design in Branding[24:54] Marketing Strategies for Global Brands[29:26] Flywire's Unique Differentiation Approach[40:03] Final Thoughts and TakeawaysLinksConnect with Allison on LinkedInLearn more about FlywireAbout Remarkable!Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction and fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at CaspianStudios.com. In today's episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.

AI-driven search (AISEO) is opening a new lane for brands in competitive categories. Joe Davies from FATJOE explains why branded mentions (not just links) are increasingly what LLMs use to decide recommendations—and how teams can systematically earn those mentions. We cover tactics like guest blogging at scale, context-seeding your USP across reviews/listicles, building deep product docs to feed LLMs, and using tier-two links to get your “influencer pages” ranking. Early data shows 2–3× higher conversion rates from AI-referred traffic because buyers arrive pre-educated and ready to act.What You'll LearnWhy AISEO rewards brand mentions and clear USPs more than classic link metrics.How AI-referred traffic converts 2–3× higher than traditional search.A repeatable process to seed your brand in listicles, reviews, and comparisons.How to “context-seed” your USP so LLMs recommend you for the right reason.Why deep help docs / knowledge bases make LLMs more confident recommending you.How to choose targets (DR + real traffic), then lift them with tier-two links.The state of AISEO observability (what to track, what's still immature).Tactical Playbook (Step-by-Step)Define your USP: the specific “best for ___” angle you want LLMs to repeat.Keyword map long-tail, bottom-funnel queries (e.g., “best X for Y,” “X vs Y,” “X alternatives,” “[product] review”).Prospect targets with credible traffic (DR is fine as a filter, but prioritize verified organic traffic).Commission content: secure guest posts/listicles and full reviews on those sites. Mix formats to look natural.Context-seed your USP in every placement (e.g., “Best for small teams,” “Most features,” “Best value”).Include competitors in listicles/reviews so the page is useful (LLMs prefer balanced sources).Boost with tier-two links (niche edits, syndication) to help these pages rank on pages 1–3.Expand surface area: Reddit answers, YouTube/tutorial mentions, and social chatter to reinforce brand salience.On-site foundation: build exhaustive docs—features, integrations, FAQs, facts sections—so LLMs can learn you deeply.Measure pragmatically: track referral traffic from AI surfaces and downstream conversions; current “AI visibility” tools are early.Resources & MentionsChatGPT Path (shows the searches/sources ChatGPT runs under the hood): https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/chatgpt-path/kiopibcjdnlpamdcdcnphaajccobkbanFATJOE — Brand Mentions Service: http://fatjoe.com/brand-mentionsFATJOE: https://fatjoe.com/Key TakeawaysAISEO is early but growing fast and already drives higher-intent traffic.Focus on being mentioned credibly across the open web; LLMs synthesize those signals.Listicles + reviews on high-trust, real-traffic sites are the current highest-leverage assets.Your docs are marketing now—LLMs read them and recommend accordingly.Don't abandon SEO; it remains the foundation that AI systems lean on.Chapters00:00 Cold open: AISEO's opportunity & why mentions matter03:45 Data: AI referrals converting 2–3× vs. classic SEO07:50 Who should prioritize AISEO (and who can wait)10:30 Tactics: listicles, reviews, and “context-seeding” your USP15:45 Tools & workflows; extension that reveals ChatGPT's queries19:45 Content ops: human vs. AI writing, plans, and clustering22:30 Build deep product docs to feed LLM understanding26:10 Ranking the influencer pages + tier-two links33:00 Observability today: what's useful, what isn't yet36:50 The next 5–10 years: AI + SEO, not AI vs. SEOGuestJoe DaviesX: https://x.com/fatjoedaviesLinkedIn: https://es.linkedin.com/in/joe-davies-seoWebsite: https://fatjoe.com/

#269 AI Search & SEO | In this episode, Dave is joined by Andrei Țiț, Head of Product Marketing at Ahrefs, a leading SEO tool trusted by marketers around the world. Andrei has been on the front lines of how AI is reshaping search and what that means for marketers trying to stay visible in an AI-first world.Dave and Andrei cover:Why branded search volume is now a top indicator of visibility in AI-generated results (and how to grow it)The new playbook for SEO in 2025, including what metrics to track beyond traffic and backlinksActionable tactics to get your brand mentioned by AI search tools like ChatGPT, Perplexity, and Google's AI OverviewsWhether you're a marketing leader or an SEO newbie, this episode will help you rethink your approach to content, attribution, and brand in the AI era.Timestamps(00:00) - – Intro (02:48) - – Why this was Exit Five's most-registered webinar ever (05:08) - – Meet Andrei from Ahrefs (06:48) - – Is SEO dead? Not quite, but it's harder than ever (08:28) - – AI traffic is growing fast (63% of sites already see it) (09:18) - – Why brand is your best SEO defense (11:48) - – How Google measures brand impact (keywords, mentions, clicks) (14:48) - – Calculating content ROI with traffic value (17:18) - – Why branded search volume predicts AI visibility (21:18) - – How to track brand mentions in ChatGPT, Perplexity & AI Overviews (24:18) - – AI traffic = fewer clicks, better leads (29:23) - – How to improve your visibility in AI-generated answers (36:23) - – Why backlinks matter less and PR matters more (43:23) - – New rules for writing content LLMs can surface (52:23) - – Final takeaways: metrics to watch and content to prioritize Send guest pitches and ideas to hi@exitfive.comJoin the Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterCheck out the Exit Five job board: https://jobs.exitfive.com/Become an Exit Five member: https://community.exitfive.com/checkout/exit-five-membership***Today's episode is brought to you by Walnut.Why are we pouring all this effort into marketing just to push buyers to a “request a demo” or “contact sales” button?Come on, today's buyers don't want to talk to sales right away. They want to explore your product themselves, see how it works, and understand its value before booking a meeting.That's where Walnut comes in.Walnut empowers marketers and GTM teams to create interactive, self-guided product experiences in minutes. Embed these experiences on your site, in emails, or anywhere in your funnel to let buyers engage on their terms, from awareness to close and beyond. That's the beauty of Walnut - you're getting a platform that your sales and CS colleagues can use to showcase the product too.And the best part? You get real intent data—see which features prospects love, where they drop off, and what's actually driving pipeline. Demo Qualified Leads are the new MQL.Over 500 companies, like Adobe and NetApp, use Walnut to drive 2-3x higher website conversion rates and 7 figures in pipeline on a yearly basis. So do you want to drive more leads, shorten sales cycles, and actually show your product instead of hiding it behind another typical B2B CTA? Go check out Walnut.io. And if you tell them Dave from Exit 5 sent you, they'll build out your first demo for free!

How To Optimize B2B Marketing Campaigns For ROIHave you ever tried to finish a round of golf as the sun goes down? It gets dark, you swing, but you can't really see where the hole is — you're just hitting into the dark. That's what many B2B brands are doing with their marketing: they're executing campaigns without clearly knowing where the target is or how to measure success.In this episode, I talk with Lori Turner Wilson, CEO of RedRover Sales & Marketing Strategy and author of The B2B Marketing Revolution. Lori shares her 12 Battles Framework, which gives companies a roadmap to bring clarity, focus, and measurable outcomes to their marketing.Together, we discuss how to:Use market research so you know exactly who you're targeting and why.Personalize your outreach to connect with prospects in meaningful ways.Integrate traditional channels like direct mail to complement digital campaigns and reach decision-makers effectively.Adopt authority marketing to position your brand as a trusted resource and help shorten the sales cycle.If you're serious about improving your marketing ROI, this conversation offers practical steps you can start implementing now — so you're no longer “hitting in the dark.”About Lori:Lori Turner Wilson is the CEO of RedRover Sales & Marketing Strategy and author of The B2B Marketing Revolution.URL - marketingresultsguaranteed.com/podcast -- use code "podcast" for special offersA quote from my book - "Defy the apathy the industry expects of you and declare, 'I deserve guaranteed marketing outcomes and anyone standing in my way will be lovingly removed.'" Timestamps:00:00 – Introduction: The Challenge of B2B Marketing00:35 – Meet Lori Turner Wilson: Author and CEO02:52 – The Importance of Market Research04:17 – ROI and Marketing Strategies07:33 – Diversification and Risk Mitigation09:29 – The Power of Direct Mail11:03 – Personalization in Marketing14:53 – The 12 Battles Framework22:30 – Authority Marketing and Giving Value24:31 – Conclusion and Final ThoughtsIf you found this conversation helpful, subscribe to the B2B Marketing Excellence podcast, leave a comment, and rank the show. Your feedback helps us continue sharing grounded, practical insights to help you succeed.

In this week's episode of the B2B Marketing Podcast, Kavita Singh, Head of Growth Solutions Content, B2B Marketing, spoke with Omne about the evolution of brand into a data growth engine. We were joined by Michael Gividen, CEO, Omne and Anna Massey, Strategy Director, Omne who chatted about everything from the fading relevance of persona marketing to the rise of more creative B2B strategies and the shifting role of influence in the modern B2B landscape. We also dive into what B2B marketers can learn from FMCG brands; plus, stick around for insights on the future of AI in marketing and much more. If you like this episode, check out previous episodes we did with Omne below: https://www.b2bmarketing.net/podcasts/fmcg-companies/ https://www.b2bmarketing.net/podcasts/omne-agency/

In this Kitchen Side episode of The Long Game Podcast, the Omniscient Digital team reflects on one key question: “What should we automate?” The discussion unfolds into a broader examination of agency culture, strategic thinking, and the nuanced costs of automation. They share personal experiments—from HARO email parsing to multi-agent PR systems—and debate the tradeoffs between saving time and losing essential context, mentorship, and learning. The team also explores how AI tools can be both empowering and distracting, and why automation shouldn't come at the expense of human development, team connection, or communication that builds trust. It's a thoughtful, candid look at what AI can't (and shouldn't) replace.Key TakeawaysAutomation Isn't All or Nothing: Not everything needs full automation—sometimes it's just about streamlining small, repeatable parts of a process.Human Touchpoints Still Matter: Automated communication can lack the warmth, accountability, and nuance of a genuine human message.AI Can Undermine Learning Opportunities: Over-automation risks removing hands-on work that builds junior talent and deep strategic expertise.Remote Culture Needs In-Person Balance: Offsites help rebuild alignment, context, and emotional connection that remote work alone can't deliver.Effort Signals Care: Taking the “harder” route—whether writing by hand or reviewing raw data—can demonstrate thoughtfulness and create deeper understanding.Small Talk Has Strategic Value: Informal conversation often reveals insights and context that structured meetings miss.AI Is Best as an Assistant, Not a Replacement: Tools like Fireflies or ChatGPT are useful for transcription and ideation, but real clarity comes from processing ideas manually.Show LinksConnect with David Khim on LinkedIn and TwitterConnect with Alex Birkett on LinkedIn and TwitterConnect with Allie Decker on LinkedIn and TwitterConnect with Omniscient Digital on LinkedIn or TwitterWhat is Kitchen Side?One big benefit of running an agency or working at one is you get to see the “kitchen side” of many different businesses; their revenue, their operations, their automations, and their culture.You understand how things look from the inside and how that differs from the outside.You understand how the sausage is made. As an agency ourselves, we're working both on growing our clients' businesses as well as our own. This podcast is one project, but we also blog, make videos, do sales, and have quite a robust portfolio of automations and hacks to run our business.We want to take you behind the curtain, to the kitchen side of our business, to witness our brainstorms, discussions, and internal dialogues behind the public works that we ship.Some interviews you might enjoy and learn from:Actionable Tips and Secrets to SEO Strategy with Dan Shure (Evolving SEO)Building Competitive Marketing Content with Sam Chapman (Aprimo)How to Build the Right Data Workflow with Blake Burch (Shipyard)Data-Driven Thought Leadership with Alicia Johnston (Sprout Social)Purpose-Driven Leadership & Building a Content Team with Ty Magnin (UiPath)Also, check out our Kitchen Side series where we take you behind the scenes to see how the sausage is made at our agency:Blue Ocean vs Red Ocean SEOShould You Hire Writers or Subject Matter Experts?How Do Growth and Content Overlap?Connect with Omniscient Digital on social:Twitter: @beomniscientLinkedin: Be OmniscientListen to more episodes of The Long Game podcast here: https://beomniscient.com/podcast/

** Originally published on May 8, 2024 **Katie Berg coined a phrase in this episode that stuck with me so much I literally made stickers: F*ck it Energy. It's about saying yes to big, scary opportunities, chasing fear instead of avoiding it, and putting yourself out there even when you're not sure you're ready.And honestly? I think we could all use a little more of that energy right now - which is why I'm bringing this one back from the archives. Katie's story of building Klue's Compete Network from scratch and carving her own path in marketing is just as powerful today as it was when we first recorded.Should I bring Katie back for a follow-up? DM me, comment, or leave a review to tell me what you'd love us to cover next. – Jane-----------In this episode of Women in B2B Marketing, host Jane Serra sits down with Katie Berg, VP of Marketing at Klue, to dive into how she turned a scrappy idea into one of the most innovative owned media plays in B2B: the Compete Network.From starting her career in events marketing and taking a bold leap to work in Zambia, to building Klue's media hub that now fuels their category leadership, Katie shares the real story of saying yes to big risks, chasing fear, and creating content that actually lands.Jane and Katie dig into:How the idea for the Compete Network was born (on a run!) and why it stuckThe scrappy steps Klue took to build a media hub before owned media was “a thing”What it really takes to launch and scale multiple shows under one brandWhy consistency and format matter as much as the content itselfLessons learned from producing four podcasts at once - and what Katie would do differentlyHow teasers and “movie-style” launches helped Klue's shows break throughThe future of B2B media hubsWhy attribution alone isn't enough - and how qualitative feedback can be a marketer's gold mineWhy women need more “f*** it energy” in content creationKey Links:Guest: Katie Berg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/katiepberg/Host: Jane Serra: https://www.linkedin.com/in/janeserra/––Like WIB2BM? Show us some love with a rating or review. It helps us reach more listeners.

When timeless advertising principles meet today's AI-saturated landscape, something surprising happens: the old rules still work.Especially when we're talking about the father of advertising himself, David Ogilvy. In this episode, we dive into his iconic book, Ogilvy on Advertising, with special guest Eric Williamson, CMO at CallMiner.Together, we explore what B2B marketers can learn from Ogilvy's approach: why specificity beats slogans, how research powers emotional storytelling, and why writing for humans is the real differentiator.About our guest, Eric WilliamsonAs CallMiner's Chief Marketing Officer, Eric oversees all global marketing functions from brand and events to demand generation. Eric's marketing team works very closely with channel and sales to drive pipeline and CallMiner's explosive growth. Eric has over 20 years of experience in both technology and consumer products marketing from both the vendor and agency side. Before joining CallMiner, Eric was VP Brand & Digital Marketing at Acquia — an open DXP platform built around Drupal — where he led brand, creative services, webops, editorial, and demand generation. Prior to Acquia, Eric was on the agency side of marketing working as SVP Digital & Social at MullenLowe, and before that as VP Digital Strategy at The Martin Agency. During his career Eric has worked with a variety of B2C and B2B brands including Google, Microsoft, Intel, GEICO, Walmart, P&G, Pizza Hut, Acura, Royal Caribbean, and Hyatt. He earned his undergraduate degree from Texas A&M University, and an MBA from The University of Texas at Dallas.What B2B Companies Can Learn From Ogilvy on Advertising:Start with the line, not the logo. Great B2B brands don't start with visuals, they start with voice. The sharpest creative begins on the page, not the mood board. “Copy first, research first, copy second, then worry about the visuals,” Eric says. In other words: write the line that earns attention before you pick the font.Write for humans. Most B2B copy dies in a sea of jargon. What buyers actually want is to feel seen. “It's really easy to fall into a place for a technology company to talk about your tech, talk about your features… and there's nothing emotional about that,” Eric says. The fix is to start by writing for humans. Emotion isn't a nice-to-have, it's your edge.Don't guess, ask. You don't need personas when you have real people. The best insights come from your customers, not your whiteboard. Eric says, “Just go talk to them…Why do they keep staying with you? What sort of thing that they worry about at night does this help solve for them?” The answers aren't in your funnel. They're in the field.Quote“ Write for humans because, ultimately, that's who you're selling to, that's who you're trying to influence. It's really understanding their emotions. What are their fears, what are their desires? Even in the B2B world, it's easy to forget that.”Time Stamps[0:55] Meet Eric Williamson, Chief Marketing Officer at CallMiner[00:58] Why Ogilvy On Advertising?[02:49] The Role of CMO at CallMiner[03:38] Origins of Ogilvy On Advertising[06:56] B2B Marketing Takeaways from Ogilvy on Advertising[21:29] Ogilvy's Predictions[37:23] CallMiner's Marketing Strategies[41:57] AI as a Solution[44:20] Advice for Marketing Leaders[45:38] Final Thoughts & TakeawaysLinksConnect with Eric on LinkedInLearn more about CallMinerAbout Remarkable!Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction and fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at CaspianStudios.com. In today's episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.

This AI SEO deep‑dive gets tactical. I sit down with Ilias Ismanalijev (aka @illyism) to map the real discovery journey happening inside AI search—what users actually prompt from problem‑aware to buyer‑ready—and how to influence results across models (GPT, O3, Claude, Perplexity). You'll learn how to surface the right phrases (not just keywords), make your pages AI‑readable, and win off‑page placements on the listicles and directories LLMs love to cite.What you'll learnThe 4 levels of AI search (no‑search → deep research) and how strategy changes at each.Prompt‑level intent mapping: info, comparison, executive/delegation, problem‑solving.How to spot AI‑generated queries in Google Search Console and build your tracking sheet.On‑page for LLMs: crawlability, structured content/markdown, alt text, and avoiding blockers (robots.txt, Next.js assets).Off‑page that moves rankings: listicle outreach, affiliate offers, directories (G2, Product Hunt), and Reddit/“parasite” opportunities.Why AI traffic is often more buyer‑ready—and how to target bottom‑of‑funnel prompts (e.g., “X vs Y,” “best X for Y,” pricing specifics).Chapters 0:00 Cold Open — What You'll Learn 1:22 Sponsor: TalentFiber 2:25 Meet Ilias & Why AI SEO Now 3:02 Who Benefits Beyond SaaS? 4:58 Research vs. E‑com Use Cases 6:20 Comparison‑Style Prompts IRL 8:59 Brands Doing It Well (Examples) 10:46 Why AI Traffic Is Buyer‑Ready 13:42 Benchmarking AI Search Visibility 16:38 Frameworks for AI Keyword Research 20:58 On‑Page for LLMs (Crawlability) 23:30 Finding AI Queries in Search Console 27:30 Regex + Long‑Query Filters 28:25 The 4 Levels of AI Search 32:17 Bottom‑of‑Funnel Prompts That Convert 34:06 Off‑Page: Listicles, Affiliates, Outreach 37:00 Reddit/Parasite SEO & Page One Sources 38:59 Mapping Sources w/ LinkDR 41:02 Pricing Pages & AI Page Inspector 44:34 Directories, Reviews & Digital PR 47:41 Should You Create AI‑Optimized Resource Pages? 48:38 Wrap‑Up & Where to Find IliasGuest Ilias Ismanalijev X: https://x.com/illyism LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/illyism Site: https://il.ly/Host Cody Schneider X: https://twitter.com/codyschneiderxx LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/codyxschneider Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/codyschneiderx YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@codyschneiderxSponsor This episode is brought to you by TalentFiber — hiring top offshore software engineers as an extension of your team (technical interviews, compliance, replacements, fast turnarounds). Learn more at talentfiber.com

#268 Solo Marketing | In this episode, Matt is joined by Sara Lattanzio, Head of Marketing at Stryber, a venture-building consultancy that helps corporates launch new startups. Sara runs the entire marketing function solo, from strategy and content to outbound and brand, and has built a powerful personal brand along the way with 40,000+ LinkedIn followers and partnerships with tools like Semrush.Matt and Sara cover:What it really looks like to run full-stack B2B marketing without a teamHow to scale content and campaigns using AI (while keeping your voice)Why outbound should roll up to marketing and how to build campaigns that aren't ignoredYou'll leave this episode with practical ideas for scaling content, running smarter outbound, and staying strategic, no matter your team size.Timestamps(00:00) - – Intro and Sara's role at Stryber (03:54) - – What full-stack marketing looks like for a solo marketer (05:44) - – Why generalist marketers are thriving right now (08:14) - – Using AI to speed up execution (without losing strategy) (10:04) - – How Sara manages freelancers and internal resources (12:19) - – Taking ownership of outbound as a marketer (14:34) - – Why cold outreach is failing and what works better (17:14) - – How she uses AI to write, edit, and shape short-form content (19:34) - – Voice note workflows and turning them into posts (21:34) - – Strategic planning and vertical-based positioning (27:55) - – The future of content marketing and newsletter cadence (31:50) - – Why people connect with creators more than brands (34:32) - – How Sara built a trusted, high-engagement personal brand (40:05) - – Turning sponsored content into actual demand (46:20) - – Final advice for solo marketers and closing thoughts Send guest pitches and ideas to hi@exitfive.comJoin the Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterCheck out the Exit Five job board: https://jobs.exitfive.com/Become an Exit Five member: https://community.exitfive.com/checkout/exit-five-membership***Today's episode is brought to you by Zuddl.We're halfway through 2025, and one thing's clear: events continue to be one of the highest performing marketing channels. Niche meetups, conferences, curated dinners, networking - you name it. Everyone's leaning in.Events are a core part of our playbook this year at Exit Five. So far, we've hosted two virtual sessions each month, one large virtual event, one in-person meetup, and we're deep in the weeds planning our Drive conference coming back to Vermont this September.Zuddl helps us run a smarter event strategy - from driving registrations, managing invites, automating comms, reminders, analytics, tracking. Their Salesforce integration also makes it simple to report on pipeline and revenue from events without pulling in ops.On top of that, the differentiator with Zuddl is how their team is insanely good at supporting us. They always go above and beyond for us - and that's how we've been able to keep the momentum going with 12+ events already this year, with plenty more to come.If events are part of your marketing strategy, you need to look at Zuddl to see how companies like Zillow, CrowdStrike, and Iterable are using the top event platform for Business events in 2025. Head over to zuddl.com/exitfive to learn more. 

Show Resources Join the LinkedIn Ads Fanatics community and get access to our 4 courses to take you from beginner to expert Rate/Review Contact us with any questions, suggestions, corrections! Summary Ever feel like you're wasting LinkedIn Ads budget reaching the wrong company sizes? In this episode of The LinkedIn Ads Show, host AJ Wilcox dives deep into one of the platform's most powerful — and misunderstood — targeting facets: company size. Learn how LinkedIn determines company size, the hidden pitfalls of inclusion vs. exclusion targeting, and why over half of LinkedIn's users may not be targetable by size at all. Whether you're going after SMBs or enterprises, you'll discover practical strategies (including a game-changing micro-segmentation tip) to make sure your ads reach the right audience — and avoid costly mistakes. Transcript For the full show transcript, see the show notes page here: Episode 163

When playbooks go stale and everyone's chasing the next big AI breakthrough, the standout B2B brands are doing something else entirely. They're building immersive worlds and inviting their audience in.That's exactly what happens in Silo, the hit Apple TV+ show, where attention to detail creates a gripping, lived-in universe. In this episode, we explore the marketing lessons behind it with special guest Karen Budell, Chief Strategy & Partnerships Officer at Totango.Together, we explore what B2B marketers can learn from crafting immersive brand worlds, creating standout brand visuals, and building trust through curiosity and community.About our guest, Karen BudellKaren Budell is the Chief Strategy & Partnerships Officer at Totango, the industry-leading customer revenue suite that turns AI-powered intelligence into customer-led growth. She previously served as the company's CMO, leading the marketing team responsible for brand and content, events, growth marketing, product marketing, and sales enablement. Budell is an active member of various CMO and GTM executive communities, including Pavilion, and serves on the G2 Executive Advisory Board. Budell previously held marketing leadership roles at SurveyMonkey, as Vice President, Brand Marketing, and Google.During her four years with Google, Budell led a team responsible for narratives and brand building for YouTube Ads and was instrumental in launching Google Marketing Platform. Having found success working with businesses of all sizes, both private and public, Budell's 20-plus year career in brand building and leadership has been fueled by her roots in journalism and a passion for storytelling through integrated, content-fueled campaigns.What B2B Companies Can Learn From Silo:Craft your world, don't just explain it. Silo hits because it's immersive. Every dusty set and muted tone pulls you deeper into its reality. That kind of worldbuilding isn't just for TV. “You need to create a unique world for your company, for your customers,” Karen says. In a sea of same-sounding content, your world is your edge and your responsibility.Curiosity is your competitive advantage. In Silo, curiosity is dangerous, but it's also how characters discover the truth. The same holds for marketers. “That is one of the most important traits of a good marketer… curiosity,” Karen says. It's not about having all the answers; it's about asking better questions and letting that inquiry shape your strategy.Emotion is in the details. Silo doesn't rely on big exposition; it builds feeling through design. You don't need to be told life underground is bleak. You feel it. “You feel claustrophobic as a viewer sitting at home watching this,” Karen says. “You feel like you're underground with them and yearning for a glimpse of what's outside.” In B2B, your content should do the same, evoke emotion through setting, tone, and texture, not just copy.Quote"We are in a great period of unlearning and relearning. I think that's what's exciting to me. Being curious. That's your superpower these days.”Time Stamps[0:55] Meet Karen Budell, Chief Strategy & Partnerships Officer at Totango[01:35] Why Silo?[03:17] Understanding Silo[07:51] B2B Marketing Lessons from Silo[22:34] The Power of Asking Questions[30:12] YouTube Strategy for B2B Brands[33:50] The Rise of Video Content[37:43] Totango's Brand & Content Strategies [39:12] Events and Experiences in Marketing[41:26] Final Thoughts and TakeawaysLinksConnect with Karen on LinkedInLearn more about TotangoAbout Remarkable!Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction and fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at CaspianStudios.com. In today's episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.

Episode Summary: In this packed episode, Lacey Miller joins Erin and Ken to demystify what it means to be a "Go-to-Market Engineer" in today's AI-fueled marketing landscape. She breaks down how she uses agentic AI workflows to build repeatable, high-output growth systems without the team bloat. If you've ever wondered how AI changes content strategy, brand building, or TikTok for B2B... this is your playbook.

#267 Product Marketing | Matt is joined by Jennifer Cannizzaro, VP of Product Marketing at Responsive and former marketing leader at Whoop and DocuSign. Jennifer brings deep experience in building strategic, insight-driven marketing teams at high-growth B2B companies and she's at the forefront of using AI to scale smarter, not just faster.Matt and Jennifer cover:How product marketing can become a company-wide growth lever through tighter GTM alignment, strategic planning, and better customer intelPractical ways her team is using AI to reduce content workload, cut freelancer spend, and increase speed-to-marketHow to coach marketers to use AI responsibly, and why curiosity and judgment matter more than everIt's a tactical, behind-the-scenes look at what high-impact product marketing really looks like in 2025, including strategy, systems, and AI.Timestamps(00:00) - – Intro (02:37) - – What product marketing owns today (06:24) - – Launch and learn vs launch and leave (07:34) - – How PMM drives company strategy (10:59) - – Aligning teams around growth levers (14:34) - – Gathering customer and market intel (18:39) - – Quick, AI-powered research tactics (20:19) - – Sharing insights across the org (25:00) - – Real examples of AI in use (28:20) - – Eliminating freelancer spend with AI (30:00) - – What to feed AI to get results (32:50) - – Coaching teams to use AI well (36:20) - – Weekly AI spotlights and team habits (38:35) - – Building a team-wide AI culture (42:05) - – Setting realistic AI expectations (45:50) - – Example prompts and experiments (48:07) - – The role of community and mentorship (54:20) - – Final thoughts and wrap-up Send guest pitches and ideas to hi@exitfive.comJoin the Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterCheck out the Exit Five job board: https://jobs.exitfive.com/Become an Exit Five member: https://community.exitfive.com/checkout/exit-five-membership***Today's episode is brought to you by Zuddl.We're halfway through 2025, and one thing's clear: events continue to be one of the highest performing marketing channels. Niche meetups, conferences, curated dinners, networking - you name it. Everyone's leaning in.Events are a core part of our playbook this year at Exit Five. So far, we've hosted two virtual sessions each month, one large virtual event, one in-person meetup, and we're deep in the weeds planning our Drive conference coming back to Vermont this September.Zuddl helps us run a smarter event strategy - from driving registrations, managing invites, automating comms, reminders, analytics, tracking. Their Salesforce integration also makes it simple to report on pipeline and revenue from events without pulling in ops.On top of that, the differentiator with Zuddl is how their team is insanely good at supporting us. They always go above and beyond for us - and that's how we've been able to keep the momentum going with 12+ events already this year, with plenty more to come.If events are part of your marketing strategy, you need to look at Zuddl to see how companies like Zillow, CrowdStrike, and Iterable are using the top event platform for Business events in 2025. Head over to zuddl.com/exitfive to learn more. 

In this episode of B2B Marketing Excellence, Donna Peterson breaks down the intimidating term “prompt engineering” and shows how it's simply a smarter, more consistent way to work—no tech degree required.Drawing from her experience with generative AI and recent insights from the Vanderbilt Prompt Engineering course, Donna shares practical ways to use prompts for repetitive marketing tasks like campaign planning and list recommendations. You'll hear how creating simple, reusable prompts not only saves time but also ensures your whole team is aligned—producing clear, professional results.You'll also learn:Why prompting is more about conversation than coding.How a well-written prompt becomes a shortcut you can use again and again.The difference between prompts and templates—and how to use both for better outcomes.At World Innovators, we focus on providing tools and strategies that make your work easier, your messaging clearer, and your outcomes more consistent. This episode offers practical examples to help you build confidence using AI in a way that's simple and effective.For a step-by-step walkthrough, refer to "Prompt Engineering Examples for Business Teams: 3 ChatGPT Prompt Templates to Boost Productivity" video on YouTube- https://youtu.be/FAlcjTx_xUo?si=uQv6-naLnQGIkn4S.Episode Timestamps:00:00 – Welcome & why the term “prompt engineering” can feel overwhelming00:38 – What prompting really is (and what it's not)01:33 – The early struggles: over-explaining and second-guessing03:02 – Aha moment from the Vanderbilt course04:47 – Using prompts to simplify and speed up repetitive tasks06:14 – Real-world example: Scheduling campaigns with one simple prompt10:22 – Understanding the difference between prompts and templates12:59 – Encouragement to just start talking to your AI assistantIf you found this episode helpful, subscribe to the World Innovators YouTube Channel for more practical ideas on B2B marketing and using AI tools effectively.Leave a review to help us spread the word about quality marketing that puts people first.If you need help building your prompt library or training your team, reach out directly to Donna at dpeterson@worldinnovators.com.

In this episode of Women in B2B Marketing, host Jane Serra chats with Shachar Oren, co-founder, CRO, and CMO at EX.CO—a rare triple-title leader with a journalist's storytelling soul and a sharp eye on revenue.Shachar's unconventional journey from writing film reviews to building a video-first adtech company is full of insight for any marketer navigating career pivots, cross-functional leadership, and the ever-blurry line between brand and revenue. She shares what it's really like owning both sales and marketing, how it's changed her approach as a CMO, and why she believes marketers need to stop undervaluing themselves.Jane and Shachar dig into:What it's like to lead both marketing and sales as a co-founderHow a background in journalism led Shachar into B2B tech and startup leadershipThe power of sitting in on sales calls - and how it transformed her team's approachWhy sales decks often fall short, and how to build enablement materials that sellers actually useWhat led EX.CO to eliminate webinars and double down on eventsHow offline tactics like in-person events and direct mail became their top growth channelsWhy marketers struggle to get internal credit - and how to start changing thatThe nuances of tying marketing roles to revenue goals and compensationWhat the lack of CMOs on corporate boards says about how marketing is perceivedHow reframing our own value as marketers can shift our influence inside the orgNavigating the balance between creativity, storytelling, and business outcomesBuilding community through thoughtful, hybrid campaigns that connect people online and offKey Links:Guest: Shachar Orren: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shacharo/Host: Jane Serra: https://www.linkedin.com/in/janeserra/Shachar's Article on Fast Company: https://www.fastcompany.com/91265760/numbers-and-narratives-the-strategic-advantage-of-uniting-the-cmo-and-cro-roles ––Like WIB2BM? Show us some love with a rating or review. It helps us reach more women marketers ready to take the mic.

We welcome back Joel Harrison, founder of B2B Marketing and a leading voice in the industry. Four years after his last appearance, Joel shares how B2B marketing has evolved – impacted by COVID, political tensions, AI, and tariffs. From the lasting power of podcasts to the shifting balance between brand and performance marketing, he explores the rise of human-centric strategies in B2B, the real impact of AI on MarTech, and why trust, influence, and advocacy are emerging as the new pillars of marketing success. About B2B Marketing B2B Marketing is the premier provider of insight and intelligence for marketers across all B2B sectors. Its Propolis community intelligence platform helps marketing teams become more effective and successful. The B2B Marketing Awards are the gold standard for excellence in B2B campaigns, while Ignite and the Global ABM Conference are among the most respected events on the B2B marketing calendar. B2B Marketing's offerings include an extensive content portfolio, such as the B2B Agencies Benchmarking Report, the B2B Marketing Podcast, and a suite of industry-focused training courses. About Joel Harrison Joel Harrison has spent over 20 years at the heart of the B2B marketing industry — as an editor, keynote speaker, ambassador, and evangelist — playing a pivotal role in shaping the dynamic sector we know today. Today, Joel focuses on podcasting, public speaking, advisory work, and his upcoming book on thought leadership. He co-founded B2B Marketing magazine in 2004, establishing key industry events and the Propolis community. He remains co-owner and director of B2B Marketing (www.b2bmarketing.net), though he is no longer operationally involved. Time Stamps 00:00:17 - Guest Introduction: Joel Harrison 00:00:44 - What Has Joel Been Doing Over the Last 4 Years? 00:02:54 - The Future of Podcasts 00:06:28 - Creating Valuable Conferences 00:08:40 - How Has the B2B Marketing Landscape Changed? 00:12:30 - Making B2B Marketing Less Boring 00:16:30 - The Impact of AI on the Marketing Stack 00:18:29 - The Rise of Influencer Marketing in B2B 00:24:20 - Best Marketing Advice and Career Tips Quotes “In the 22 years I've been doing this, I've never seen a period that even compares remotely.” Joel Harrison, founder of B2B Marketing “The only thing you can be certain about is uncertainty.” Joel Harrison, founder of B2B Marketing “B2B marketing has definitely got more human. And that's a good thing.” Joel Harrison, founder of B2B Marketing “AI isn't the reason to buy a platform. The platform should solve a specific job — AI is just part of how it does it.” Joel Harrison, founder of B2B Marketing “We can't really envisage what the midterm future looks like right now — we're just so early in the AI journey.” Joel Harrison, founder of B2B Marketing “It's not about being boring or not boring — it's about being human and relevant.” Joel Harrison, founder of B2B Marketing Follow Joel: Joel Harrison on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joelharrison/ B2B Marketing's website: https://www.b2bmarketing.net/ B2B Marketing on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/b2b-marketing/ Follow Mike: Mike Maynard on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikemaynard/ Napier website: https://www.napierb2b.com/ Napier LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/napier-partnership-limited/ If you enjoyed this episode, be sure to subscribe to our podcast for more discussions about the latest in Marketing B2B Tech and connect with us on social media to stay updated on upcoming episodes. We'd also appreciate it if you could leave us a review on your favourite podcast platform. Want more? Check out Napier's other podcast - The Marketing Automation Moment: https://podcasts.apple.com/ua/podcast/the-marketing-automation-moment-podcast/id1659211547

What happens when marketing stops being a support function and starts driving revenue?In this episode, Carlota Feliu, Head of Marketing at HP, shares how modern B2B marketing is evolving — closer to sales, closer to customers, and much closer to impact.Carlota unpacks the blurred line between ABM and demand gen, the real meaning of marketing-sales alignment, and how AI is (and isn't) changing how we work. If you're a marketing leader or aspiring to be one, this conversation is packed with hard-won insights from inside a global org navigating change.You'll learn:→ Why ABM and demand gen are two sides of the same strategy→ How marketing earns its seat at the revenue table→ What it takes to build real alignment between marketing and sales→ How AI can help solve problems without adding noise→ A simple framework (3Rs) to keep brand, relationships, and revenue in balance→ Advice for emerging marketing leaders in today's revenue-driven climate

When everyone's racing to launch big strategies, success takes more than smart tactics. It takes alignment, discipline, and deep cross-functional trust.That's how the heroes in Spidey and His Amazing Friends, the hit animated Marvel kids' show, defeat the villains. In this episode, we unpack marketing lessons from Spidey's universe with the help of our special guest Emily Ferdinando, CMO at Bugcrowd.Together, we explore what B2B marketers can learn from nailing ABM execution, building content grounded in community feedback, and turning shared goals into real, coordinated action.About our guest, Emily FerdinandoEmily Ferdinando is a go-to-market leader with a focus on pipeline and revenue growth. She brings 15 years of GTM leadership experience, specializing in optimizing operational processes and data-driven strategy. With a background in sales and operations, Emily brings a unique approach to Marketing focused on down-funnel impact and top-line growth. Emily joins Bugcrowd from Veracode where she most recently led the Growth Marketing organization. Her background includes leadership roles across the GTM engine, including Global Business Development, GTM Enablement, and Operational Strategy. While there, she led the team through multiple events and two successful exits. Emily lives in New Hampshire with her husband and two young children. She enjoys the outdoors and stretching her creative muscles through painting, fiction writing and guitar.What B2B Companies Can Learn From Spidey and His Amazing Friends:Alignment over silos. In one episode, Spidey, Ghosty, and Miles all chase Rhino with their own plans, each using their powers, none working together. The mission falls apart. “We can say we have the same goal all day, but if we're not aligned on how we get there… that's what it's gonna look like,” Emily says. In marketing and in superhero teams, the difference between success and disaster isn't talent, it's coordination.One-size-fits-all content fits no one. Spidey's world works because it's made for everyone. Each with different powers, personalities, backgrounds, and their own story. That same inclusive mindset should guide your content. “Many people did not fit squarely into one piece,” Emily says. “If we ran our strategy that way, they were missing exposure to a lot of content that was really relevant to them.” Real impact comes from serving the overlaps, not the edges.Simple stories stick. Spidey and His Amazing Friends makes complex ideas—like teamwork, trust, and problem-solving—land through bright colors and clear stakes. For marketers, that's the goal too. “Making internal assumptions without pressure testing with the people who are going to be receiving the output of your team, it's a huge miss,” Emily says. Whether you're leading kids or customers, never assume they're on board. Ask, listen, and build with them.Quote“Spidey and His Amazing Friends, they really teach you what actual in practice, collaboration is supposed to look like and not look like. And it's really as simple as…you step back. We all know what we're supposed to do. It's just really hard in practice sometimes, and sometimes you can learn from the kids' shows. You just step back and go, we know what to do, we just need to do it.”Time Stamps[0:55] Meet Emily Ferdinando, CMO at Bugcrowd[01:00] Why Spidey and His Amazing Friends?[02:20] The Role of a CMO at Bugcrowd[03:00] Origins of Spidey and His Amazing Friends[19:38] B2B Marketing Takeaways from Spidey and His Amazing Friends[29:21] Bugcrowd's ABM Launch[33:30] Repackaging Content for Better Engagement[40:13] Bugcrowd's Content Strategy and Community Engagement[47:20] Final Thoughts and TakeawaysLinksConnect with Emily on LinkedInLearn more about BugcrowdAbout Remarkable!Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction and fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at CaspianStudios.com. In today's episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.

Unlock the practical side of vibe coding and AI‑powered marketing automations with host Cody Schneider and guest CJ Zafir (CodeGuide.dev). If you've been flooded with posts about no‑code app builders but still wonder how people actually ship working products (and use them to drive revenue), this conversation is your blueprint.CJ breaks down:What “vibe coding” really means – from sophisticated AI‑assisted development in Cursor or Windsurf to chilled browser‑based tools like Replit, Bolt, V0, and Lovable.How to think like an AI‑native builder – using ChatGPT voice, Grok, and Perplexity to research, brainstorm, and up‑level your technical vocabulary.Writing a rock‑solid PRD that keeps LLMs from hallucinating and speeds up delivery.The best tool stack for different stages – quick MVPs, polished UIs, full‑stack production apps, and self‑hosted automations with N8N.Real‑world marketing automations – auto‑generating viral social content, indexing SEO pages, and replacing repetitive “social‑media‑manager” tasks.Idea‑validation playbook – from domain search to Google Trends, plus why you should build the “obvious” products competitors already prove people pay for.You'll leave with concrete tactics for:Scoping and documenting an app idea in minutes.Choosing the right AI coding tool for your skill level.Automating content‑creation and distribution loops.Turning small internal scripts into sellable SaaS.Timestamps(00:00) - Why vibe coding & AI‑marketing are everywhere  (00:32) - Meet CJ Zafir & the origin of CodeGuide.dev  (01:15) - Classic mistakes non‑technical builders make  (01:27) - Sponsor break – Talent Fiber  (03:00) - “Sophisticated” vs “chilled” vibe coding explained  (04:00) - 2024: English becomes the biggest coding language  (06:10) - Becoming AI‑native with ChatGPT voice, Grok & Perplexity  (10:30) - How CodeGuide.dev was born from a 37‑prompt automation  (14:00) - Tight PRDs: the antidote to LLM hallucinations  (18:00) - Tool ratings: Cursor, Windsurf, Replit, Bolt, V0 & Lovable  (23:30) - Real‑world marketing automations & agent workflows  (25:50) - Why the “social‑media manager” role may disappear  (28:00) - N8N, JSON & self‑hosting options (Render, Cloudflare, etc.)  (35:50) - Idea‑validation playbook: domains, trends & data‑backed bets  (42:20) - Final advice: build for today's pain, not tomorrow's hype SponsorThis episode is brought to you by Talent Fiber – your outsourced HR partner for sourcing and retaining top offshore developers. Skip the endless interviews and hire pre‑vetted engineers with benefits, progress tracking, and culture support baked in. Visit TalentFiber.com to scale your dev team today.Connect with Our GuestX (Twitter): https://x.com/cjzafirCodeGuide.dev: https://www.codeguide.dev/Connect with Your HostX (Twitter): https://twitter.com/codyschneiderxxLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/codyxschneiderInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/codyschneiderxYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@codyschneiderx

More AI chit chat in this eposide and Dave has a rant about fibre to the premises broadband not working very well, then working really well, then not working very well.

Today on the Social-Engineer Podcast: The Security Awareness Series, Chris is joined by Trent Waterhouse. Trent is the CMO of GlobalMeet, a leading virtual event technology company with a scalable, flexible, and secure hybrid event streaming platform built and supported by experienced event experts. Trent has a proven track record of driving growth and innovation with 35 years of expertise leveraging a field sales marketing model that aligns sales, marketing, and R&D to think like a customer, act like a partner, and measure success through customer satisfaction and net promoters. Built for growth, Trent's unique blend of technology understanding and B2B marketing skills have been proven to help companies grow revenue profitably, improve customer experiences, build new partnerships, and expand opportunity pipelines. [July 21, 2025]   00:00 - Intro 00:50 - Intro Links: -          Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/ -          Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/ -          Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/ -          Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/ -          Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb -          CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/ -          innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/                                                02:30 - Trent Waterhouse Intro 03:11 - Starting Out Pre-Video 04:53 - A Brave New World 08:07 - Going Public 10:21 - Rise of the DeepFakes 13:03 - Video Watermarking 15:23 - A Simple Warning Will Do 19:11 - Staying Up to Date 21:22 - Insider Threat 23:42 - Find Trent Waterhouse Online    -          Website: https://www.globalmeet.com/ -          Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/globalmeet/ -          LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/trentonwaterhouse/ 24:44 - Book Recommendations -          Pattern Breakers - Mike Maples, Jr, Peter Ziebelman 27:16 - Wrap Up & Outro -          www.social-engineer.com -          www.innocentlivesfoundation.org

#266 Marketing Leadership | In this episode, Matt is joined by Jess Cook, Head of Marketing at Vector, a platform pioneering the contact-based marketing category. Jess has spent her career building standout content strategies at B2B brands like LASSO and Fastly, and she recently made the jump from Head of Content to first-time Head of Marketing.Jess and Matt cover:How content marketers can transition into marketing leadership and what gaps to prepare forThe strategy behind building a brand that stands out in B2B (and why Vector leans into being “a little unhinged”)How Jess built her first marketing budget from scratch and sold it in using storytelling, not spreadsheetsYou'll walk away with tactical insights on running a modern B2B marketing org, from content and brand to budgeting and team structure.Timestamps(01:00) - – Jess's B2C roots at McDonald's and Kellogg (04:34) - – Jumping into B2B and growing through content (06:19) - – Why she moved from Head of Content to Head of Marketing (08:54) - – Hiring product marketing first (and why it matters) (13:04) - – How Vector built a bold B2B brand with personality (17:04) - – What Jess looked for in her first marketing hire (20:24) - – Building and pitching her first full marketing budget (25:49) - – Creating a 30/60/90 plan that actually drives buy-in (27:19) - – Category content, SEO, and early wins with AI (32:20) - – The podcast pivot: ditching “Funnel Cake” for something better (36:00) - – How she knew Vector was the right fit (39:40) - – Going all-in on YouTube and video-first strategy (43:50) - – Short-form content, brand building, and trust (46:20) - – Biggest lesson: balance long-term planning with quick wins (50:50) - – Leading with action and setting the tone as a new marketing leader (52:50) - – How Jess communicates vision and builds internal alignment (56:20) - – Wrap-up and final takeaways Send guest pitches and ideas to hi@exitfive.comJoin the Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterCheck out the Exit Five job board: https://jobs.exitfive.com/Become an Exit Five member: https://community.exitfive.com/checkout/exit-five-membership***Today's episode is brought to you by Zuddl.We're halfway through 2025, and one thing's clear: events continue to be one of the highest performing marketing channels. Niche meetups, conferences, curated dinners, networking - you name it. Everyone's leaning in.Events are a core part of our playbook this year at Exit Five. So far, we've hosted two virtual sessions each month, one large virtual event, one in-person meetup, and we're deep in the weeds planning our Drive conference coming back to Vermont this September.Zuddl helps us run a smarter event strategy - from driving registrations, managing invites, automating comms, reminders, analytics, tracking. Their Salesforce integration also makes it simple to report on pipeline and revenue from events without pulling in ops.On top of that, the differentiator with Zuddl is how their team is insanely good at supporting us. They always go above and beyond for us - and that's how we've been able to keep the momentum going with 12+ events already this year, with plenty more to come.If events are part of your marketing strategy, you need to look at Zuddl to see how companies like Zillow, CrowdStrike, and Iterable are using the top event platform for Business events in 2025. Head over to zuddl.com/exitfive to learn more. 

In an age of uncertainty, deepfakes and false promises, referrals stand out as a key marketing channel for B2B brands. Partner marketing is an effective strategy to grow new business and gain trust with your audience. James Stacey is the Principle Programme Marketing Manager at Red Hat, where he leads their partner marketing strategy as well as their AI and partnerships development. James takes us through the benefits of partner marketing, how it all works, the different kinds of partnerships, and how to create an ROI driven partner marketing programme that builds mutually beneficial relationships. 

When you're outgunned, under-resourced, and facing giants, success takes more than speed. It takes teamwork, message discipline, and relentless coordination.That's how the Rebel Alliance defeats the Galactic Empire, and it's how great B2B marketing teams win in the real world. In this episode, we unpack marketing lessons from the Star Wars saga with special guest Eric Herzog, CMO at Infinidat.Together, we explore what B2B marketers can learn from thinking like a startup, aligning cross-functional teams, and building content strategies that deliver across every touchpoint.About our guest, Eric HerzogEric Herzog is the Chief Marketing Officer at Infinidat. Prior to joining Infinidat, Herzog was CMO and VP of Global Storage Channels at IBM Storage Solutions. His executive leadership experience also includes: CMO and Senior VP of Alliances for all-flash storage provider Violin Memory, and Senior Vice President of Product Management and Product Marketing for EMC's Enterprise & Mid-range Systems Division.What B2B Companies Can Learn From Star Wars:Business is a team sport. Great marketing doesn't happen in silos. Whether you're a startup or a global enterprise, success depends on alignment across every function. Eric says, “In marketing, having all kinds of people running around with different functions is wrong. They all need to work together in what I call a completely vertically integrated marketing.” Your message, your content, your sales strategy. it all has to move as one.Message discipline wins hearts and minds. When you can't outspend the competition, out-message them. A clear, consistent story can be your greatest weapon. “You need to win the hearts of the minds of your customers, and your prospects, and your channel, and your sales team,” Eric says. If your message isn't aligned, neither is your market.Think like a startup (no matter your size). Speed, focus, and adaptability aren't just startup traits; they're must-haves for any marketing team. Eric explains, “ The most successful big companies in overall functions, as well as in their marketing function, try to act like a startup.” Whether you're leading a lean team or navigating a Fortune 500 org, it's that startup mindset that helps you outmaneuver slower, more bureaucratic competitors.Quote“Business is a team sport, and a subteam of marketing as part of the business is a team sport too. If you don't work as a team, the empire will crush you. You need to be like the Rebel Alliance and all work together.”Time Stamps[0:55] Meet Eric Herzog, CMO at Infinidat[01:08] Why Star Wars?[01:54] Role of CMO at Infinidat[03:03] Origins of Star Wars[08:52] B2B Marketing Takeaways from Star Wars[30:04] Infinidat's Content Strategy[33:39] Final Thoughts and TakeawaysLinksConnect with Eric on LinkedInLearn more about InfinidatAbout Remarkable!Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction and fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at CaspianStudios.com. In today's episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.

#265 Non-SaaS Marketing | In this episode, Matt sits down with Sandra Rand, a fractional head of marketing who works with early-stage, non-SaaS B2B companies. She's led marketing for PE-backed, self-funded, and services-based businesses, where big budgets and SaaS-style playbooks aren't the norm. She's also building the Non-SaaS Marketers subgroup inside Exit Five to support others facing the same challenges.Matt and Sandra cover:How non-SaaS teams drive growth without demos, PLG, or huge lead volumeWhy events, word of mouth, and referrals often outperform funnels in these orgsTactical ideas for gifting, partnerships, and pipeline-building on a lean budgetWhether you work in SaaS or not, you'll walk away with creative, scrappy strategies to build trust and drive results in B2B.Timestamps(00:00) - – Intro (03:04) - – Why Exit Five launched the Non-SaaS group (08:24) - – What makes non-SaaS marketing different (11:44) - – Budgets, sales cycles, and team structure (16:34) - – Why brand and trust matter more (18:44) - – Events > funnels in non-SaaS (28:40) - – How to build brand on a budget (34:10) - – Word-of-mouth and referral tactics (38:50) - – Gifting and relationship-driven growth (44:50) - – Scrappy, creative plays that actually work (50:20) - – What's next for the Non-SaaS community Send guest pitches and ideas to hi@exitfive.comJoin the Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterCheck out the Exit Five job board: https://jobs.exitfive.com/Become an Exit Five member: https://community.exitfive.com/checkout/exit-five-membership***Today's episode is brought to you by Zuddl.We're halfway through 2025, and one thing's clear: events continue to be one of the highest performing marketing channels. Niche meetups, conferences, curated dinners, networking - you name it. Everyone's leaning in.Events are a core part of our playbook this year at Exit Five. So far, we've hosted two virtual sessions each month, one large virtual event, one in-person meetup, and we're deep in the weeds planning our Drive conference coming back to Vermont this September.Zuddl helps us run a smarter event strategy - from driving registrations, managing invites, automating comms, reminders, analytics, tracking. Their Salesforce integration also makes it simple to report on pipeline and revenue from events without pulling in ops.On top of that, the differentiator with Zuddl is how their team is insanely good at supporting us. They always go above and beyond for us - and that's how we've been able to keep the momentum going with 12+ events already this year, with plenty more to come.If events are part of your marketing strategy, you need to look at Zuddl to see how companies like Zillow, CrowdStrike, and Iterable are using the top event platform for Business events in 2025. Head over to zuddl.com/exitfive to learn more. 

Great marketing doesn't start with a message; it starts with a mindset shift. If you want to make people feel something, you need more than a clever campaign. You need a story that invites them in and reflects something true.That's the magic of the “Assume That I Can” campaign, where simplicity meets significance, and storytelling sparks real cultural shift. In this episode, we unpack the power of that message with the help of our special guest, Mike Barton, VP of Corporate Communications and Content Marketing at AudioEye.Together, we explore what B2B marketers can learn from building accessible experiences, confronting audience assumptions, and crafting stories that create real connection.About our guest, Mike BartonMike is a marketing and communications leader dedicated to making the internet more accessible for all. As Vice President of Corporate Communication & Content Marketing at AudioEye, Mike leads marketing strategy, driving awareness and demand through blogs, social media, PR, video, and digital storytelling. Previously, at Adobe, he shaped content and executive messaging across Experience Cloud, Creative Cloud enterprise, and Document Cloud. With deep expertise in customer engagement and industry-specific storytelling, Mike excels at aligning business objectives with audience needs—crafting compelling narratives that resonate with C-suite leaders, end users, and decision-makers across industries.What B2B Companies Can Learn From “Assume That I Can” campaign:Start with the barrier, not the message. Before you talk about your product, talk about what's standing in the way. The best campaigns don't lead with features; they lead with mindset shifts. “If your audience already believed what you want them to believe, they'd be acting on it,” Mike explains. “What's the belief barrier that we need to identify and then either bring it down or address it?” Identify the roadblock first. Then your message has somewhere to go.Simplicity scales. Forget the fluff. The most effective campaigns are clear, precise, and emotionally resonant. Mike says, “The best ideas don't need paragraphs, they just need precision.” That's what made the “Assume That I Can” campaign so powerful: four words packed with meaning. Make your message easy to share and impossible to forget.Build stories people can see themselves in. If your marketing is talking at people, you've already lost them. Great content invites the audience into the story. Mike explains, “Connection and empathy really manifest when the person you're talking to sees themself in the story.” Whether it's about accessibility or enterprise software, lead with humanity. That's what makes people care.Quote*“ Data informs, but emotion transforms. And it's not that these are two mutually exclusive delivery mechanisms…it's really bringing data and emotion together. And as we saw in the “Assume That I Can” campaign, it was through the voice of somebody who had Down Syndrome. So we're constantly bringing in blind people or deaf people, or people who have mobility issues and letting them tell their story.”Time Stamps[0:55] Meet Mike Barton, VP, Corporate Communication & Content Marketing at AudioEye[01:13] Why the 'Assume That I Can' Campaign?[03:04] Mike's Role at Audio Eye[07:23] Breaking Down the 'Assume That I Can' Campaign[11:33] How to Make Your Content Accessible[15:13] B2B Marketing Takeaways from the Campaign[29:44] Addressing Belief Barriers in Marketing[31:58] Connecting Through Empathy and Storytelling[33:09] Marketing Strategy at Audio Eye[35:09] The Importance of Accessibility in Digital Experiences[36:02] Combining Data and Emotion for Impact[46:00] Final Thoughts and TakeawaysLinksConnect with Mike on LinkedInLearn more about AudioEyeAbout Remarkable!Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction and fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at CaspianStudios.com. In today's episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.

Join me as I chat with Yoann Pavy, the growth mastermind behind AI Apply and ex-Deliveroo & Depop head of growth.Timeline 00:00 – AI tooling's golden age (and why it's overwhelming) 00:31 – Introducing Yo, the “most gangster” consumer marketer I know 00:45 – What you'll learn: short‑form content, paid ads, automations 01:23 – Sponsor: Talent Fiber makes offshore hiring effortless 02:12 – Yo's creative AI spotlight: VO3 videos & gorilla vlogs 04:46 – Humans vs. AI avatars in paid videos (spoiler: humans still shine) 07:20 – Building your creator pyramid with Sideshift & Shortimize 10:00 – Automating code changes via “Jarvis” in Slack 14:38 – Scaling organic content: thousands of posts, not dozens 18:00 – Product‑channel fit: build the media first, product second 20:30 – Automating international growth: 20+ languages in weeks 24:00 – Filtering AI noise: focus on what's already working 27:15 – The biggest gap: corporate brands vs. startup agilityKey Points • AI creatives are exploding—VO3 videos hit millions of likes fast. • Human spontaneity still outperforms AI‑only videos—for now. • Slack‑based AI agents (“Jarvis”) deploy code, update copy, spin up PRs. • Automate localization: add new languages weekly without human translators. • Scale organic distribution by multiplying creators and formats. • Product‑first mindset flips: media channel drives features. • Startups win by sprinting on AI while corporates stall in red tape.Deep‑Dive SectionsCreative AI in Paid Ads Verdict:

#264 Async Work | In this episode, Dave is joined by Ashley Faus, Director of Lifecycle Marketing at Atlassian, and Dr. Molly Sands, Head of the Teamwork Lab at Atlassian. Ashley brings deep experience in cross-functional B2B marketing leadership, while Molly leads a team of behavioral scientists designing better ways for teams to collaborate. Together, they unpack how Atlassian has rethought marketing org structure, internal comms, and meetings to drive higher output with fewer syncs.Dave, Ashley, and Molly cover:The framework Atlassian uses to reduce meetings and communicate asynchronously (including how to structure updates that actually get read)How to balance transparency with clarity and avoid information overload across Slack, Loom, and ConfluenceTactical ways to structure team rituals, recurring meetings, and brainstorms to focus on output, not performative busyworkYou'll walk away knowing how to run a leaner, more effective marketing team (without drowning in Slack and Zoom).Timestamps(00:00) - – Intro (03:34) - – Why marketers showed up live: too many meetings, too little output (06:34) - – Meet the guests: Ashley Faus and Dr. Molly Sands from Atlassian (09:04) - – What “Team Anywhere” means at Atlassian (11:04) - – The difference between information sharing and real connection (13:34) - – Why marketing updates often fall flat internally (15:34) - – How to communicate clearly inside the org (and get your message read) (19:04) - – Structuring updates: topic, who it's for, action, context (22:04) - – When you need a meeting vs. when async works better (26:04) - – “Sparring” meetings: real-time collaboration between equals (28:34) - – What actually builds team connection (hint: not team happy hours) (32:50) - – Async tools Atlassian uses across marketing (35:20) - – Getting quiet team members to contribute in meetings (37:50) - – How Atlassian runs recurring team rituals without wasting time (41:50) - – Cross-functional alignment: structure, scorecards, and shared goals (44:50) - – Best practices for async tools like Loom and Confluence (47:50) - – Do brainstorming meetings even work? Here's when they do. (50:50) - – What to share with non-marketers (and what to skip) (53:50) - – Why creating focus is the most underrated leadership skill (55:50) - – Final takeaways from Ashley and Molly Send guest pitches and ideas to hi@exitfive.comJoin the Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterCheck out the Exit Five job board: https://jobs.exitfive.com/Become an Exit Five member: https://community.exitfive.com/checkout/exit-five-membership***Today's episode is brought to you by Zuddl.We're halfway through 2025, and one thing's clear: events continue to be one of the highest performing marketing channels. Niche meetups, conferences, curated dinners, networking - you name it. Everyone's leaning in.Events are a core part of our playbook this year at Exit Five. So far, we've hosted two virtual sessions each month, one large virtual event, one in-person meetup, and we're deep in the weeds planning our Drive conference coming back to Vermont this September.Zuddl helps us run a smarter event strategy - from driving registrations, managing invites, automating comms, reminders, analytics, tracking. Their Salesforce integration also makes it simple to report on pipeline and revenue from events without pulling in ops.On top of that, the differentiator with Zuddl is how their team is insanely good at supporting us. They always go above and beyond for us - and that's how we've been able to keep the momentum going with 12+ events already this year, with plenty more to come.If events are part of your marketing strategy, you need to look at Zuddl to see how companies like Zillow, CrowdStrike, and Iterable are using the top event platform for Business events in 2025. Head over to zuddl.com/exitfive to learn more. 

Marketing isn't just about pushing a product anymore. If you want to resonate, you need to think creatively, act authentically, and know when to take the spotlight off the brand and onto the people behind it.That's the magic of Jim Henson, where artistry meets innovation, and characters become cultural icons. In this episode, we tap into that enduring creative power with the help of our special guest, Adam Kranitz, Chief Marketing Officer at Resilio.Together, we explore what B2B marketers can learn from narrative consistency, egoless collaboration, and why it's time to stop making “content” and start telling stories that actually matter.About our guest, Adam KranitzAdam leads the marketing organization at Resilio, responsible for demand marketing, brand, and corporate communications. He is an experienced technology marketing leader with expertise in building and leading global marketing teams and strategies that grow revenue, increase product adoption, and build mindshare with competitive differentiation.Adam has led vision, strategy, and execution for all facets of B2B technology marketing, aligned with sales teams, for publicly traded technology firms, including Avid (NASDAQ: AVID) and Paychex (NASDAQ: PAYX), and SaaS start-ups, including CloudCheckr (acquired by NetApp) and LucidLink.Adam's customer-centric marketing approach has recently produced industry leadership recognition for his companies with a G2 Leader Report for Cloud File Storage and category leader in Cloud Management Wave report by Forrester Research.What B2B Companies Can Learn From Jim Henson Idea Man:Entertainment first, selling second. Jim Henson's early commercials didn't start with a coffee can—they started with chaos, characters, and charm. Adam puts it plainly: “Do we wanna beat people over the head with the technical benefits of the product, or do we wanna entertain and educate our prospects?” The goal isn't to pitch—it's to engage. Use storytelling to earn attention before you explain the value.Narrative consistency pays off. Kermit hasn't changed. Neither should your core brand story. “If we haven't landed our message and are consistently delivering it over time, through multiple channels… what have you created?” Adam asks. Like the Muppets, your brand needs to adapt across formats but stay true to character. A consistent voice builds trust—and keeps you top of mind.Let your experts do the talking. Your audience doesn't want to hear from the brand. They want to hear from the people behind it. “Nobody wants to see an AI talking head avatar… You've got smart people in your organization, it's your job as marketers to coach them up.” For Resilio, spotlighting their CTO, CPO, and CEO on LinkedIn unlocked real results. Empower your experts. That's who your buyers want to meet.Quote*“The best part of my job is when I get to get on a platform like this and do a video interview with one of our customers… and then they kind of unprompted will talk about how much they love Resilio… That magic moment where it clicked for them—that is just magic.”Time Stamps[0:55] Meet Adam Kranitz, Chief Marketing Officer at Resilio[00:56] Why Jim Henson Idea Man?[04:01] The Role of CMO at Resilio[05:31] Origins of Jim Henson Idea Man Documentary[13:07] The Creative Genius of Jim Henson[25:14] B2B Marketing Takeaways from Jim Henson[38:37] The Power of Serialized Content[42:49] The Importance of Video in Modern Marketing[52:59] Final Thoughts and TakeawaysLinksConnect with Adam on LinkedInLearn more about ResilioAbout Remarkable!Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction and fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at CaspianStudios.com. In today's episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.

In this episode, Adam Silverman — co-founder & CEO of Agent Ops — dives deep into what “AI agents” actually are, why observability matters, and the very real marketing & growth automations companies are shipping today. From social-listening bots that draft Reddit replies to multi-agent pipelines that rebalance seven-figure ad budgets in real time, Adam lays out a practical playbook for founders, heads of growth, and non-technical operators who want to move from hype to hands-on results.Guest socials• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamsil•

Databox is an easy-to-use Analytics Platform for growing businesses. We make it easy to centralize and view your entire company's marketing, sales, revenue, and product data in one place, so you always know how you're performing. Learn More About DataboxSubscribe to our newsletter for episode summaries, benchmark data, and moreIf you've ever had to defend your brand marketing budget – or wondered if it's even worth the investment – this episode is a must-listen. Peep Laja, CEO of Wynter, breaks down the practical realities and long-term impact of brand marketing. Peep uses data and research to explore why so many companies are stuck in the “sea of sameness,” how to measure (and justify) brand marketing ROI, and why building memory structures – not capturing clicks – is the real goal of B2B marketing.Plus, Peep shares the one brand marketing move most B2B companies get totally wrong – and what to do instead.What you'll learn:How to invest in brand marketing that drives resultsHow to invest in brand marketing that drives resultsWhy creating a sub-category is a smarter play than category creationHow to actually measure the impact of brand awarenessHow to educate your CFO on brand marketing budgets and timelinesWhy distinctiveness, not uniqueness, is the goal

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EPISODE SUMMARY Join scientist and mindset & high-performance coach Claudia Garbutt and marketing expert Lori Turner-Wilson, as they discuss the B2B marketing revolution.   In this episode, we talk about: - Guaranteeing marketing ROI - Finding the metrics that matter - Fighting learned helplessness   EPISODE NOTES Lori Turner-Wilson is disrupting the marketing agency industry by delivering guaranteed ROI. An international best-selling author in the U.S. and U.K. with The B2B Marketing Revolution, she's the powerhouse behind RedRover, one of the only full-service B2B marketing agencies in the U.S. guaranteeing client ROI.   Links:   marketingresultsguaranteed.com/podcast https://www.linkedin.com/company/redrover-company/  https://twitter.com/i/flow/login?redirect_after_login=%2Fredrovercompany https://www.facebook.com/RedRoverCompany/ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCz2YGG4C6bcHZYzuk1kR5ng https://www.instagram.com/redrovercompany/  https://www.linkedin.com/in/redrover/   ------------ Click this link to listen on your favorite podcast player and if you enjoy the show, please leave a rating & review: https://linktr.ee/wiredforsuccess ------------------   Music credit: Vittoro by Blue Dot Sessions (www.sessions.blue)   -----------------   Disclaimer: Podcast Episodes might contain sponsored content.      

Some of the best campaigns don't come from massive budgets or high-gloss production. They come from leaning into what feels real. Currys' Gen Z ads are a perfect example: low-fi, deadpan, and unexpectedly brilliant.In this episode, we're unpacking what made this retail campaign a breakout success with the help of our special guest David Hooker, Director of Brand at Printful and Printify.Together, they explore what B2B marketers can learn from embracing scrappy creativity, building brand affinity over awareness, and trusting that great content doesn't need to sell a product—it just needs to make people care.About our guest, David HookerDavid Hooker is the Director of Brand at Printify and Printful. He's an experienced Creative Director and Brand Manager. Built the Prezi Evangelism and Creative Services teams. Seasoned speaker, including TED-X Talk (see below). David built the Brand and PR function at TravelPerk, securing coverage in Wired, TechCrunch, Sky News, Al Jazeera, Financial Times, Business Insider, Handelsblatt, Süddeutsche Zeitung, and the BBC. He's currently helping empower entrepreneurs at Printify and Printful. What B2B Companies Can Learn From Currys' Gen Z ads:You don't need a big budget to make standout content. Some of the most impactful marketing doesn't come from a fancy studio—it comes from a phone camera, an employee, and a smart idea. David says, “You don't have to spend thousands and thousands of dollars to make really good, great content that works.” Don't wait for budget approvals. Focus on originality and execution.B2B still means you're selling to people. Behind every buying committee is a group of humans—ones who laugh, scroll, and crave connection just like everyone else. David says, “You are B2B, but that B is a population of people… you can create great quality content that brightens up people's day, that generates awareness and an affinity for your brand.” Lead with humanity, not just logic.Ignore the naysayers—go make something people love. Not every campaign needs to hit every KPI to be worth doing. Sometimes the boldest ideas face the most resistance—and deliver the most impact. David says, “I'm sure there was someone in the meeting room… who went, ‘How are they gonna know where our stores are?' But the naysayer was wrong. If you make really great quality content that people connect with, enjoy—it's going to do good things for your marketing.” Make the thing. Publish the thing. Let the audience prove it out.Quote*“ You don't have to spend thousands and thousands of dollars to make really great content that works. Investing in the content and the quality of the content always pays off… Your B2B, but that B is a population of people, right? You've got an ecosystem of decision makers, but they're all human beings at least for the moment…You can create great quality content that brightens up people's day, that generates awareness and an affinity for your brand, without spending a lot if you focus on the content itself.”Time Stamps[00:55] Meet David Hooker, Director of Brand at Printify and Printful[01:08] Why Currys' Gen Z ads?[02:35] The Origin Story of Printful and Printify[09:32] The Power of Merch[13:38] The Demand for Personalization[24:11] Understanding the Currys' Gen Z Ad Campaign[33:11] B2B Marketing Lessons from the Gen Z Currys' Ads[40:41] Authenticity in Advertising[52:21] Advice for Brand Leaders[54:26] Importance of Visual LiteracyLinksConnect with David on LinkedInLearn more about PrintifyLearn more about PrintfulAbout Remarkable!Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction and fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at CaspianStudios.com. In today's episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise.

Joe Mindak is a serial entrepreneur and the co-founder of Noladex, a community-driven B2B marketing tech platform designed to turn networking and referrals into real, trackable income. With a background spanning marketing, media, and craft beer, Joe has built and sold businesses across multiple industries—and knows firsthand how relationships and word of mouth drive sustainable growth. His latest venture is all about helping people and communities get paid for the value they already create through their networks. On this episode we talk about: – Joe's first dollar as a paperboy and how early hustles shaped his entrepreneurial mindset – The origin story of Nolodex and how Joe turned casual referrals into $85,000 in side income—then built a platform to help others do the same – How Nolodex enables networking groups, alumni associations, and communities to track, manage, and monetize B2B referrals – Why high-ticket affiliate marketing and referral deals can be a game-changer for anyone with a strong network – The importance of double opt-in introductions and the rules of effective networking – The difference between being a visionary and an operator—and why Joe always partners with strong operators to scale his ideas – Lessons from building and selling businesses in wildly different industries, from local magazines to craft beer to SaaS – Why entrepreneurship is best learned in the trenches, and the value of apprenticeships over traditional education – How to leverage existing relationships to create new income streams, especially in today's economic climate Top 3 Takeaways 1. Monetize What You Already Do: If you're already making introductions and referrals, you can turn that value into real income with the right system. 2. Network Smarter, Not Harder: Focus on high-value B2B referrals, track your deals, and use double opt-in intros to ensure everyone wins. 3. Bring in the Right People: You don't need to be good at everything—partner with operators and experts so you can focus on your strengths. Notable Quotes – “I made $85,000 in referral fees in 40 hours of work—just by connecting people I already knew.” – “If you're a good referral giver, why not get paid for the value you create?” – “Every conversation is an opportunity—someone always needs something. Just ask.” Connect with Joe Mindak: – Platform: https://www.nolodex.com/