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Among many of those Nauvoo Saints who did not choose to follow Brigham Young and the Twelve Apostles into the mountains of Utah, there was an emerging hope that someone from the Smith family would step forward and begin a reorganization of the Church Joseph Smith Jr. had established. In 1851 a soft reorganization began and built up to that culminating moment of 1860 when the eldest son of Joseph and Emma Smith, Joseph Smith III, stepped forward at the age of 28 and was ordained president of what they referred to then as the Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, or RLDS Church. Over time their method of succession in their presidency developed upon a different set of criteria than that of their Utah-based cousins, as did many of their practices, policies, programs, and governing principles. In 2001 the name of the RLDS Church was changed to Community of Christ, and today this is the second largest branch of the Restoration movement.  In this episode of Church History Matters, Casey and Scott sit down with Andrew Bolton, a friend and member of the Community of Christ who served in their Council of Twelve Apostles from 2007 to 2016. Together we take a deep dive into the details of how succession works in this movement, while also considering some key similarities and differences between our two Restoration branches today. For show notes and transcript for this and other episodes go to https://doctrineandcovenantscentral.org/church-history-matters-podcast/   

Physical places have always played an important role in preserving history. Much more important for a church called to Christ's mission is how we integrate it into our lives, learn from it, and carry it forward by becoming the storytellers that keep it alive. In this episode of Cuppa Joe, Apostle Lach Mackay (also Director of Historic Sites and a direct descendent of Joseph Smith III) sits down with host Karin Peter, to share his own perspective on the recent sale of important historic properties.  He talks about how he is processing the news as well as talks about how he is finding hope for the future ... and how our history will continue to play a vital role in our identity going forward.  Download TranscriptThanks for listening to Project Zion Podcast!Follow us on Facebook and Instagram!Intro and Outro music used with permission: “For Everyone Born,” Community of Christ Sings #285. Music © 2006 Brian Mann, admin. General Board of Global Ministries t/a GBGMusik, 458 Ponce de Leon Avenue, Atlanta, GA 30308. copyright@umcmission.org “The Trees of the Field,” Community of Christ Sings # 645, Music © 1975 Stuart Dauerman, Lillenas Publishing Company (admin. Music Services). All music for this episode was performed by Dr. Jan Kraybill, and produced by Chad Godfrey. NOTE: The series that make up the Project Zion Podcast explore the unique spiritual and theological gifts Community of Christ offers for today's world. Although Project Zion Podcast is a Ministry of Community of Christ. The views and opinions expressed in this episode are those speaking and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of Community of Christ.

Referencias: - Artículo en el Tribune sobre la compra: https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2024/03/05/lds-church-buys-kirtland-temple/# - Carta de McLellin: McLellin to Joseph Smith III, July 1872; cited in Stan Larson and Samuel J. Passey (editors), The William E. McLellin Papers 1854-1880 (Salt Lake City, Utah: Signature Books, 2007), p. 493-494.

Listen to the TWiM Sisters' discussion on the female experience with garments by Become a TWiM Patron. This Week's Hosts: TWiM Sisters Link: Mailbag: MATT It's been a while since we recorded, and we did have some comments in the mailbag - there is one in particular we'd like to address quickly -  Some listeners disagreed with calling a death a little deal, I apologized offline for any pain we caused. MELISSA Should we give ourselves a name? What should we call ourselves? ChatGPT suggests, “The Beloved Brothers and Sisters” or “TWIM: Marvelous Siblings” Quick Clips: MATT (TEMPLES) St. George temple open house / Feather River California temple open house (more) / Saratoga Springs temple dedicated MELISSA A typical day in the life of an apostle MATT South Korea Supreme Court Justice is LDS MELISSA President Oaks turns 91 MATT Elder Soares speaks to missionaries in Brazil and speaks at Brazil conference MELISSA Church donates $44 million to end hunger Food donations in 6 countries MATT New study estimates that 1.4 million people attend LDS church services each week. That is about 20% of US church members. Famous Mormons: (MATT) Which 1980s/1990s child TV star is a member of the church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints? Jason Bateman Ricky Schroeder Kirk Cameron Big/Little/No Deal: MELISSA What President Freeman wishes for the Young Women of the Church MATT Supreme Court's neutral stance on religion creates more chaos than clarity MELISSA Researchers studying intersection between LGBT+, Mental Health, & Religion MATT The holiest places in the world MELISSA Man faces felony charges after stealing chicken nuggets from LDS church MATT Did Joseph Smith plagiarize the Sermon on the Mount? MELISSA What happens to your church digital information when you die? TWIM TAKES (MELISSA) Should I send my child to church with a cellphone? (Related article) Can we talk about Lori Vallow Daybell statements? TWIM sisters did this, but we would have a different take. Mormons Doing Goodly: (MATT) Frank Vandersloot and Melaleuca fund the largest firework show west of the Mississippi. This Week in Mormon History: (MATT) 35 years ago today - 1988 Mid-August 100 millionth endowment performed for the dead. 50 years ago today - Aug 15, 1973 From Leonard Arrington Elder Anderson came into my office for a few minutes this morning. He said that President [Heber J.] Grant told him that Joseph F. Smith told President Grant about an informal, friendly conversation he had in Independence with Joseph Smith III [RLDS President]. Joseph Smith III leaned over to President Smith and said, "You know, I wish I knew for sure which one of us is right," and President Joseph F. replied, "I thank the Lord that I do know which one is right." 85 years ago today - Aug 14, 1938 The first Deseret Industries store opens with its dual purposes of providing low-cost used items as well as employment for disabled and elderly persons. Orson H. Hewlett patterns this after Goodwill Industries.

In this episode, I chat with Dr. Bruce Worthen about his recent book Mormon Envoy: The Diplomatic Legacy of Dr. John Milton Bernhisel  (U. of Illinois Press). Worthen unfolds the little known contributions of Bernhisel, who as historian Matt Grow aptly quipped, seems to "have his fingerprints all over Mormon history during this period." We chat about the 1857 Utah War, Bernhisel's rags-to-riches education at the University of Pennsylvania and in New York City, his status as confidant to Joseph Smith, Emma Smith, Brigham Young, and Joseph Smith III, and much more. Join us to learn about the enigmatic man you've never heard of behind some of the most memorable events in early Mormon history.

Every 7th episode we take questions from our listenership. In this episode we ask our author and historian about his involvement with a daguerreotype (a photograph) of the Prophet Joseph Smith that was in the possession of the Prophet's wife Emma, and their eldest son Joseph Smith III.Those wishing to see the photograph can do so here: Photograph Found or on our website: GospelFeastBooks.com in the "Podcast" section.Those wishing a copy of the complete research on the Prophet's photograph can find it here.Ready for some meat after all the milk? The Gospel Feast Series is available here in 20+ volumes.It's time to Feast on the Word of God!

Greetings brothers and sisters! Welcome to the weekly MormonNewsRoundup where Al, John Hamer and Dives ruminate on the great and spacious beehive! Full Title Mar. 12, 2023 EP 50 - John Hamer co-hosts, Community of Christ President Veazy to step down, LDS missionary slang in the hot seat, and why paying tithing isn't just for Mormons! Connect with Dives and Al! www.MormonNewsRoundup.org kolob@mormonnewsroundup.org Voicemail Twitter YouTube Official Sponsor Music MormonMovieReviews Connect with John Hamer! YouTube Channel Website Lecture Library Support this Podcast Patreon News Articles Community of Christ Prophet-President to Retire MNRU Poll of the Week Why doesn't the COJCOLDS have a better prophetic leadership transition process? Because Brigham Young's uber-inspired transition process based on apostolic ordination date has been working so well Because Mormons never had anyone as handsome as Joseph Smith III at the helm Bottom like: Orson Hyde was a wicked and slothful servant Because white, zany, dementia-stricken geriatrics are unpredictable and fun! Because cisgender Utah born silver foxes appeal so well to generation z and millennials After Brigham Young transfigured into Joseph Smith in August 1844, there's no going back Scott Taylor: Why ‘dying testimonies' is just one reason to avoid missionary slang Article reception Are Mormons smart? Why an Anglican priest now lives the Word of Wisdom and feels it a privilege to pay tithing Huge Guests/Shows, Coming up World premiere of Sophronia: GA Patreon supporter and Special guest host next week Jonathan Streeter of TATAS later this month Jane Christie from 21st century Saints on deck Shoutout to Weird Alma for this episode's music. Thanks so much for ruminating with us on the great and spacious beehive! And remember, remember: No unhallowed hand can stop this podcast from progressing! #lds, #mormon, #exmormon, #postmormon,#religion, #news, #ldschurch, #comeuntochrist, #churchofjesuschrist, #churchofjesuschristoflatterdaysaints, #byu, #byui, #josephsmith, #comefollowme, #polygamy, #bookofmormon, #becauseofhim, #hearhim --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/mormonnewsroundup/support

Following the death of Joseph Smith, a succession crisis enveloped the Church. Several vied for leadership. While most people recognize Brigham Young and Joseph Smith III, there were several other leaders like Alpheus Cutler, Granville Hedrick, James Strang, and others who led movements still leading congregations today. Not only that, but others have broken off […]

On the latest episode of Mormon Book Reviews, John Hamer returns to discuss the 1844-1860 period of Church history. This was a very tumultous time in which many there were many claimants to succeed Joseph Smith. We discuss James Strang, William Bickerton and Joseph Smith III among others. The Mormon Reformation is discussed as well as the beginning of the formation of what would become the RLDS. I want to thank John for coming on and I look forward to having him come back on to tell us about the history of the RLDS/Community of Christ. Stay Tuned!PatreonBrigham Young American MosesJoseph Smith III Pragmatic ProphetWilliam Bickerton Forgotten Latter Day Prophet

On the latest episode of Mormon Book Reviews Steven Pynakker welcomes on Roger Launius who wrote the very important and definitive biography "Joseph Smith III: Pragmatic Prophet". Dr Launius, member of the Community of Christ, wrote his dissertation on Joseph Smith III and it was later published by University of Illinois Press. The book won the prestigious Evans Award for biography. This was a fascinating conversation and we cover topics like the early days of the formation of the RLDS , Emma Smith's denial of polygamy practiced by Joseph Smith, David Hyrum's mental breakdown, Race and the Priesthood, and the legacy Joseph left. We then change it up a bit and discuss his time as the chief historian of NASA where he took on Roswell and Fake Moon landing conspiracy theories. The conversation then turns to baseball and the biography he wrote "Charlie Finley: The Outrageous Story of Baseball's Super Showman". Did you know Finley was instrumental in the American League adopting the designated hitter rule? And that he tried to create the position of the designated runner and introduce orange baseballs to the game? I want to thank Roger for coming on and I look forward to having future conversations with him.Joseph Smith III: Pragmatic ProphetCharlie Finley bio

Come hear the diverging duet of two cousins, Joseph F. Smith and Joseph Smith III and how their paths mirrored and shaped two dominant Mormon sects.

Come hear the diverging duet of two cousins, Joseph F. Smith and Joseph Smith III and how their paths mirrored and shaped two dominant Mormon sects.

On the latest episode of Mormon Book Reviews we continue our "Show and Tell" series with Brent Ashworth. On this segment we discuss how Joseph and Emma Smith's Family Bible was found in 1970 and the process of how Brent was able to acquire it. This Bible has the handwriting of Joseph and Emma Smith as well as Joseph Smith III. It was very touching to see where Joseph Smith recorded the death of his brother Alvin and Joseph Smith III recorded his father's death. The discovery of this Bible was able to provide the names of the twin babies that Emma lost as well as a son that was unknown to history.Link to purchase Show and Tell by Traci McFarland Fieldsted

Joseph Smith III was a man of peace and a steady presence for a previously scattered remnant. This is the definitive biography of this remarkable man.Link to RLDS/Community of Christ and Restoration Branches: http://rldsbooks.blogspot.com/

Cuppa Joe is taking a look at the three wives of Joseph Smith III. In this episode, we are introduced to his third wife, Ada Clark. Host: Karin PeterGuest: Wendy Eaton 

Cuppa Joe is taking a look at the three wives of Joseph Smith III. In this episode, we are introduced to his second wife, Bertha Madison. Host: Karin PeterGuest: Wendy Eaton 

Cuppa Joe is taking a look at the three wives of Joseph Smith III. In this episode, we are introduced to his first wife, Emmeline Griswold, who tragically lost her life far sooner than expected. Host: Karin PeterGuest: Wendy Eaton

Project Zion Podcast is bring you follow up interviews with the presenters of the Historic Sites Foundation Summer Lecture Series. Today we have Lach Mackay to share about his lecture, "Life, Legacy and Lessons from Joseph Smith III."You can find Lach's original presentation here and be sure to keep an eye out for more episodes with the presenters from the Historic Sites Lecture Series coming soon! Host: Karin PeterGuest: Lach Mackay

When thinking about founders of the Reorganization, names like Joseph Smith III, Emma Smith, or William Marks often come to mind. Today, historian Mark Scherer introduces us to Jason Briggs, a key historical figure who laid important groundwork for the Reorganization. Mark discusses his mission trip to Salt Lake City as well as what eventually drove Briggs away from the RLDS Church. You can contact Mark with any questions about church history at his email: mark@markascherer.com

In this week’s episode we explore the cooperative movement of the Church. We also learn about a visit by Joseph Smith III to Utah Territory.

In this week's episode we explore the cooperative movement of the Church. We also learn about a visit by Joseph Smith III to Utah Territory.

On this episode, we dive into a strange occurrence in early 1844. By the last year of his ministry, Joseph Smith had designated half a dozen people to be his rightful successors in his absence or in the case of his death. But, in early 1844, it was finally time for Joseph Smith III (Jo 3.0) to receive his ordination as rightful heir to the Mormon mantle. We discuss when it happened, a bunch of other succession instructions (as well as when and why they were given), and finally discuss the text of the actual Jo 3.0 succession blessing which was “discovered” by Mark Hofmann in 1981. The letter was a forgery, but the RLDS still have the most solid ground for rightful succession. If you disagree, fight me in the comments about it! Links: Mormon Enigma by Linda King Newell and Valeen Tippetts Avery https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/596364.Mormon_Enigma Lecture on Faith #2 http://lecturesonfaith.com/2/ The Mormon Succession Crisis of 1844 by D. Michael Quinn https://byustudies.byu.edu/content/mormon-succession-crisis-1844 Joseph Smith III’s 1844 Blessing and the Mormons of Utah https://www.jstor.org/stable/pdf/43200687.pdf?refreqid=excelsior%3A80c45321eedd4ec0604851943c320570 Benjamin Franklin Johnson, My Life’s Review https://archive.org/stream/BenjaminFJohnsonMyLifesReview/Benjamin+F+Johnson+My+Lifes+Review_djvu.txt Hofmann audio tape Sunstone presentation https://www.sunstonemagazine.com/mark-hofmann-25-years-later/ Show links:                                                                                                                                                              Website http://nakedmormonismpodcast.com Twitter @NakedMormonism Facebook https://www.facebook.com/pages/Naked-Mormonism/370003839816311 Patreon http://patreon.com/nakedmormonism Music by Jason Comeau http://aloststateofmind.com/ Show Artwork http://weirdmormonshit.com/ Legal Counsel http://patorrez.com/

Joseph Smith III has a vision. Happily, it streamlines responsibilities within the church and nominates people to leadership positions. It's official canon... but not everyone believed so at the time.   All the Links Read along with us here Support the show on Patreon List of the Presiding Patriarchs Richard P Howard James Caffall Edmund C Briggs R.C. Evans Francis Sheehy Cornelius Butterworth John Rushton  

William Marks is called to the presidency. Joseph Smith III ceases to discriminate against "the Negro race" by instituting a separate but equal clause.    Listen to Marie's work wife point out the obvious racism by supporting the show at Patreon.com/MyBookofMormonPodcast   All the Links Emancipation Proclamation  William Marks Jim Tankersley interview on Pres. Buchanan  

Drink every time Bryce says "Different!" Joseph Smith III offers his leadership to the newly-founded RLDS church, and immediately differentiates himself from his father and particularly from Brigham Young. The initial revelation sets up a system of tithing. All The Links Read along with us here. Joseph Smith III acceptance speech is here. Support the show at Patreon.com/MyBookofMormonPodcast

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[paypal-donation] https://youtu.be/oxfm1l1Xae0 We're about ready to finish our conversation with John Hamer and Lachlan MacKay of the Community of Christ and do a Mormon Schisms Tour!  In this next conversation, we'll talk about how confusing it must have been to live following the death of Joseph Smith. John:  You might have a branch where at a certain point, you've heard Joseph Smith has been killed.  You are very sad.  Brighamite missionaries come through.  They say the Twelve are now in charge and things like that.  Everyone says, “Hey, now we got it.  We've read about that in the newspaper and this kind of thing.”  Then, a couple of months later, somebody from Voree comes with the Voree Herald and they explain how the Twelve are in apostasy, and this and that, and why all of the prophetic gifts that prove that Strang is the successor, and they are like, “Oh, we're Strangites now.” There isn't anything in particular that necessarily happens for the branch.  So like I say for the Hedrickites, they are one of five, maybe, of these branches that are in a cluster around Bloomington, Illinois.  I think probably at some point or another, they will have been affiliated with Strang, but at a certain point, maybe when he “affiliated,” whatever it even means.  Strangite missionaries will come through there, and that's one of the reasons why maybe they didn't gather and go west. We'll talk about the founding of the RLDS Church. John:  This is the origin of the Reorganization.  So the branches start to pray about it.  They fall back on individual personal revelations for the individual congregations, the pastors.  They start meeting together.  As they are thinking about it, William Smith has a church in the meantime and William Smith has been promoting the idea of lineal succession.  There has been, (I think I mentioned a while ago), there's the sense that Joseph Smith's posterity, somebody, one of his sons is going to be the successor or will emerge as the successor.  They start to regather these branches and the form a conference organization, which is a loose structure.  There's no corporate entity here still. So they pass resolutions together in conferences where they say they are going to wait for one of Joseph Smith's sons, probably Joseph Smith III to emerge to receive the prophetic calling and to accept that mantle.  So when that happens in 1860, he comes to a conference of the New Organization, what becomes the Reorganization and what becomes Community of Christ, then that becomes something that all these little branches start to get really excited about.  Fairly quickly, then that Reorganization draws from all the different tradition churches, including people who had gone west who are dissatisfied with what was going on under Brigham Young in Utah. It turns out that some other Mormon schismatic groups are contemporaries of Joseph Smith III.  John talks briefly about several of these churches, "There's more –ites; that's hardly an exhaustive group so I don't mean to be leaving anybody out.  They are very interesting."  He'll briefly discuss founding of the Hedrickites, Williamites, Josephites, Cutlerites, Whitmerites, and their relationship to the RLDS Church.  Lachlan MacKay will also tell when and why the Kirtland Temple changed from a bluish-gray color to the current white color it is today.  It's going to be a fun conversation. I hope you check out our Mormon Schisms Tour!

[paypal-donation] I'm excited to start 2018 two amazing guests: a Seventy and an Apostle of the Community of Christ: John Hamer and Lachlan MacKay. I'll let them introduce themselves. Lachlan:  Sure, [I'm] Lachlan MacKay, a member of the Council of Twelve in the Community of Christ.  I oversee the northeast field in the U.S. which is Michigan and basically Kirtland to Maine to Virginia.  I have functional assignments including Community of Christ Historic Sites.  I oversee historic sites and lead the church history and sacred story team. John: In terms of the history work that I do, I primarily have studied the broader Latter-day Saint tradition churches.  Like I say that would be all manner of –ites, so the Strangites,[1] especially but also Cutlerites[2] and Hendrickites[3] and everybody else, Josephites,[4] our tradition.  I'm a member of Community of Christ.  I serve as the pastor of the downtown Toronto congregation.  I've been called to be a Seventy.  I'm a Seventy-designate.  The ordination will happen in October.[5]  I am also a past president of the John Whitmer Historical Association (JWHA), which is essentially the other –ites, or the Community of Christ's version of the Mormon History Association (MHA), those kind of things. We'll be talking a little bit about LDS myths. GT:  One of my favorite blog posts was, it's been a decade now, the Top Myths about the Community of Christ for Mormons. John:  Oh yeah, the Top 10 myths, I don't remember exactly how it was, the top 10 Mormon myths about the Community of Christ or something like that.  That one we ended up doing a couple of podcasts with that. I think we did one on Mormon Expression that was on that same topic. One of the ones for the LDS Tradition, one of the blogs posts that gets the most traction is for whatever reason, sometime in your curriculum every spring you do the Milk & Strippings story.[6]  Then suddenly this essay that I've written that has been read more times is on the Milk & Strippings story because every May or something like that it comes up for some reason.  I don't know why. We will also talk about the construction of the Kirtland Temple.  (Don't forget to check out our previous discussion with Dr. Mark Staker and Dr. Richard Bennett!)  Check out our conversation! https://youtu.be/Agt2SKt9M6U [paypal donation]   [1] Because so many churches founded by Joseph Smith have similar names, sometimes it is easier to name the groups by their next founder.  For example, the Strangites have a similar name as the mainline LDS Church.  Their church is officially known with slightly different capitalization and punctuation as the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (vs. Latter-day Saints), and were founded by James Strang following an angelic visit.  We will talk more about them in a future episode. [2] Cutlerites were founded by Alpheus Cutler and are officially known as the Church of Jesus Christ. [3] Hedrickites were founded by Granville Hedrick and officially known as the Church of Christ or Church of Christ (Temple Lot.)  They are sometimes referred to as the Temple Lot Church.  We will discuss them in a future episode. [4] Josephites are better known as Community of Christ or RLDS Church.  The official name is the Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.  They are called Josephites after Joseph Smith III.  The Utah church is sometimes referred to as Brighamites, after Brigham Young. [5] John was ordained in October 2017. [6] The Milk Strippings story is a story in which the LDS Church claims that apostle Thomas B. Marsh was excommunicated for defending his wife.  As the story goes, his wife took extra milk for butter, known as “milk strippings.”  John wrote a post that there was more context to the story than is given in LDS Sunday School manuals.  See https://bycommonconsent.com/2009/07/01/the-milk-strippings-story-thomas-b-marsh-and-brigham-young/  

Joseph Smith III is a writer and a high school English teacher. He's also author of three nonfiction books that focus on his two favorite topics: The Church and Film. His first book, "The Psycho File," is a comprehensive guide to Alfred Hitchcock’s Classic Shock film. His second book, "Sex and Violence in the Bible," surveys Explicit Content in the Holy Book. It’s a squeamish topic a lot of Christians shy away from. In the book, Joe champions a frank and forthright approach. He’s shopping his new book, "Transparency: A Cure for Hypocrisy in the Modern Church," to a new publisher, and he’s finding that process to be a bit daunting. We talk about the changes in the publishing industry, and how difficult it is to place books with publishers today. We also discuss living in a small town, and the the importance of hometown newspaper, and its role in nurturing writers. We chat about the writing legacy, passed down from father to son, and how his own son has inherited the “writing gene.”

On this episode, we cover the major sprouts of Mormonism which sprang from the fertile religion Nauvoo soil. From the Strangites, to Whiteites, to Josephites, to Brighamites, to Godbeites, and back to Brighamites again, every major faction of Mormonism seems to have a highly polarized stance on polygamy. Politics plays it’s role as laws are passed in attempt to outlaw the twins of barbarism, slavery and polygamy, largely aimed at curtailing the religious overreach of the Mormon theocracy in Utah. This is part 3 in a multi-part series on the history of polygamy. Links: Opposition to Mormon Polygamy in Utah http://ilovehistory.utah.gov/time/stories/polygamy.html Morrill Anti-Bigamy Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morrill_Anti-Bigamy_Act James Strang http://www.strangstudies.org/James_Jesse_Strang/ Lyman Wight http://www.josephsmithpapers.org/person/lyman-wight https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyman_Wight Whiteite Polygamy https://digitalcommons.usu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1042&context=usupress_pubs Alpheus Cutler http://www.josephsmithpapers.org/person/alpheus-cutler http://ir.uiowa.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=10632&context=annals-of-iowa Joseph Smith III http://www.josephsmithjr.org/history/children/70-joseph-smith-iii https://www.dialoguejournal.com/wp-content/uploads/sbi/articles/Dialogue_V20N04_107.pdf Saints Herald 1860 archive http://www.latterdaytruth.org/pdf/100137.pdf Buchanan’s Blunder War of 1857-58 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utah_War Poland Act of 1874 http://www.famous-trials.com/mountainmeadows/933-the-poland-act James A. Garfield Inaugural Address 4 March 1881 http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=25823 Assassination of Garfield, trial of Charles Guiteau https://www.jstor.org/stable/1100203?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents George F. Edmunds https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_F._Edmunds Edmunds Anti-Polygamy Act 1882 http://www.u-s-history.com/pages/h734.html Grover Cleveland 8 Dec 1885 annual address http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?pid=29526 John Taylor https://www.lds.org/churchhistory/presidents/controllers/potcController.jsp?leader=3&topic=facts Wilford Woodruff http://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Woodruff,_Wilford https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilford_Woodruff 1890 Manifesto—Official Declaration 1 https://www.lds.org/scriptures/dc-testament/od/1 Supreme Court Ruling upholding Edmunds-Tucker Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late_Corp._of_the_Church_of_Jesus_Christ_of_Latter-Day_Saints_v._United_States Show Links: Website http://nakedmormonismpodcast.com Twitter @NakedMormonism Facebook https://www.facebook.com/pages/Naked-Mormonism/370003839816311 Patreon http://patreon.com/nakedmormonism Music by Jason Comeau http://aloststateofmind.com/ Show Artwork http://weirdmormonshit.com/ Legal Counsel http://patorrez.com/ Voicemail Line (864)Nake-dMo (625-3366)

[paypal-donation] In the LDS Church we believe in an orderly succession from Joseph Smith to Brigham Young.  In the Reorganized Church of course they don't accept Brigham as the prophet and instead accept Joseph Smith III.  What is the view of RLDS Succession Crisis? In this conversation with Jim Vun Cannon, a counselor in the First Presidency of the Remnant Church, we'll learn that 16 years after Joseph Smith was killed, the Reorganized Church was established. GT:  One of the things I want to talk a little bit about is the Succession Crisis.  As you know Joseph Smith, for those of my listeners who aren't super familiar with church history, Joseph Smith was killed in 1844 in the Carthage Jail.  As I understand it, and correct me if I'm wrong, I believe it was another 15 or so years before—Joseph Smith III was just a young boy.  He was probably about 14 or so? Jim:  Yeah, that's correct.  He was a young boy. GT:  So it took about 15 years or so before Joseph Smith III felt called of God and then the Reorganized Church started in 1860.  I believe it was April 6, 1860? Jim:  Actually that's an interesting point.  It actually started in 1852. GT:  Oh! Jim:  We actually had met together, a number of people during the Succession Crisis had come together.  They organized at the apostle level, so the Second Presidency level if you will.  They had the church until the prophet came forth, and so when young Joseph came, he felt compelled to come.  That's part of what he said, “I come by a power not of my own,” and he came to the church.  It was in April 6, 1860 and so forth.  Most people do look at that as the beginning, but honestly it was 1852, October of 1852 where they held the first general conference of the church at that point. Similarly, following the 1984 revelation where women got the priesthood on the RLDS Church, 16 years later the Remnant Church was begun.  We'll talk about similarities and differences between these two reorganizations, as well as talk about some priesthood differences between the LDS Church and the Remnant Church. Jim:  We have quorums of seventy that are underneath the Twelve, so seven quorums of Seventy is what we have.  Now we don't have seven quorums of Seventy, we only have one quorum. GT:  We only had that for a long time but now we've got six or seven I think.  Yeah seven is the maximum.  We've got that.  I don't believe all of our seven quorums have 70 in them.  They're half that I believe. Jim:  And if I understand correctly, your seventies are based on high priest, or are they based on elder? GT:  They are based on High Priest. Jim:  Ours are based on elder. GT:  Oh really? Jim:  Yes if you're based on an elder in the Melchizedek Priesthood, well obviously because your priesthood is an elder, you're set apart to be a seventy from the office of elder, not the office of high priest. GT:  Oh interesting.  I know it does seem very hierarchal in our church, and I don't believe that's the case in the Community of Christ and I'm not sure in your church as well.  Do you have adult members that are either Aaronic Priesthood or Melchizedek Priesthood holders?  Is that pretty typical? Jim:  Yes that is pretty typical.  We don't look at it as a progression.  We look at it as a calling.  It may be for instance you have a calling as a deacon all your life.  It doesn't mean you didn't magnify your call, it just means that that was what the Lord called you to do.  We have literally men who are 80-90 years old who are deacons, and also vice-versa.  We might have very young men who are elders or high priests, so there's no progression.  The way we look at it is wisdom and revelation is what's in our scriptures for that. Check out our conversation....  (Don't forget to check out part 1 and part 2!) [paypal-donation] https://youtu.be/hivi5IAdc-c  

[paypal-donation] I'm excited to announce an interview with a counselor in the First Presidency!  His name is Jim Vun Cannon, and he is a member of the Remnant Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, based in Independence, Missouri.  Never heard of him?  Well, here's a little introduction to their church.  (Later we'll discuss a Literal Descendant of Aaron!) Jim:  I would say where we started out was we left the C[ommunity] of C[hrist, which] was called the Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.  Of course I think you all know where that came from. We left that in [19]84.  There were a number of people who went out to Restoration branches.  At that point, people were looking up, can the church—because everyone believed that the church had to have structure and order to it. ... In 1999, a number of people started meeting together.  They were high priests and gathering other priesthood together to pray and to fast and to see what could be done.  What did the law actually allow? It turns out we found in some of the writings of Joseph Smith III, and some personal testimony and revelation that came forth, we could indeed have a church restored again, so that's what happened at that point. So the Remnant Church of Jesus Christ is essentially a breakoff of the RLDS Church, officially organized in the year 2000, under the direction of a new prophet, Frederick L. Larsen.  He is a matrilineal descendant of Joseph Smith, and the Remnant Church believes in lineal succession.  Jim said, "We are approximately 2700 members.  About 1200 of those members are here in the United States, and the rest of those are in foreign fields."  I met Jim in Idaho, as the church was holding a retreat for members in the Northwestern United States.  The most interesting thing I heard was this: Jim Vun Cannon:  Our Presiding Bishop actually is a literal descendant of Aaron. GT:  Oh really! Jim:  Yes.  Kevin Romer is actually.  Yes GT:  Ok.  Wow, that's interesting. Jim:  So yeah, that was new for us. GT:  Oh.  I would assume that he got that through the patriarch.  Is that how you declare lineage? Jim:  Yeah, typically the patriarchs will give you lineage.  In his particular case he had it from the patriarch and from the president of the church.  Both had testimonies of… GT interrupts:  Oh that he was a literal descendant? Jim:  literal descendant, yeah right. GT:  Ok, so the interesting thing, that doesn't happen very often in our church.  In fact I'm not aware of any. Jim:  This is the first I know of. GT:  Oh really! Jim:  Yeah, I don't know of any of our churches, yeah. GT:  Oh, wow.  That's interesting.  I know a bishop, and I don't know any bishop that would want to do this but if a bishop that is a literal descendant of Aaron, he does not need counselors, which when you're administering a ward, why would you not want to have counselors?  I don't know. Jim chuckles:  Yeah, he has counselors and he doesn't want to give them up.  I can appreciate that. GT:  Now is that a lifetime calling too, or is that just for a period of time? Jim:  We kind of look at that as a lifetime calling too, right now at this point.  It's really very new to us so we're just kind of learning that. In our next conversation we'll talk more about Jim's conversion to the Remnant Church.  Have you ever heard of the Remnant Church?  I want to thank media director Morgan Wigle for helping me arrange this interview.  Do you have any questions for Jim or Morgan? https://youtu.be/VCRt76z_7aw

Join Lindsay as she interviews two historians, John Hamer and Don Bradley about the Smith cousins, Joseph F. Smith and Joseph Smith III and how their public feud shaped 20th century polygamy. Links mentioned in this podcast: The Persistence of […]

Join Lindsay as she interviews two historians, John Hamer and Don Bradley about the Smith cousins, Joseph F. Smith and Joseph Smith III and how their public feud shaped 20th century polygamy. Links mentioned in this podcast: The Persistence of Polygamy, Volume II Joseph Smith III: Pragmatic Prophet book LDS Church President Gordon B. Hinckley’s […]

On this episode, we discuss the lovely Emma Hale, who later became Emma Hale Smith when she married Joe, and even later becomes Emma Hale Bidamon, much after Joe dies in his notorious gunfight. We find out what Joe's father in law thinks of Joe, as well as how it relates to his conviction for fraud. There's even an interview on Emma's deathbed, given by her son, Joseph Smith III, to close the episode out.

In Part 3, John Hamer talks about how Latter Day Saints living in the Midwest who continued to oppose polygamy were able to regroup and come together as the Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. These members included Joseph Smith Jr.’s immediate family. Joseph and Emma’s eldest surviving son, Joseph Smith III, led the RLDS Church as prophet for 54 years. Described by his biographer as a "pragmatic prophet," Joseph III was able to successfully weld diverse old Saints who had been Strangites, Cutlerites, Wightites, Whitermites, Rigdonites, Thompsonites, Brighamites, Morrisites, and more, into a Restoration tradition church that took the Kirtland era as its model. The fact that Joseph III grew up in the ruins of Nauvoo and had learned to live with his neighbors influenced the Reorganization’s strong peace tradition.