Podcast appearances and mentions of Ryan Ferguson

San Diego-based band No Knife released their sophomore album Hit Man Dreams in 1997 during the peak era of underground emo and post-grunge indie rock. The album marked a pivotal moment in their evolution thanks to the intricate guitar work by Mitch Wilson and Ryan Ferguson, who blend angular post-hardcore riffs with melodic indie rock sensibility. Tracks like "Your Albatross" and the title track showcase the band's knack for crafting dynamic compositions that shift seamlessly between tension and release. Producer Mark Trombino dials in their sound to perfection, highlighting the two-guitar attack and melodic vocals that define their style. While the band isn't as well know as many of their former pre-00s emo and post-hardcore contemporaries, Hit Man Dreams and the pair of album that follow suggest a serious reconsideration.   Songs In This Episode I Intro - Roped In - Lock On 13:30 - Your Albatross 21:34 - Charades 30:25 - Median Outro - Jackboots   Support the podcast, join the DMO UNION at Patreon. Listen to the episode archive at DigMeOutPodcast.com.

San Diego-based band No Knife released their sophomore album Hit Man Dreams in 1997 during the peak era of underground emo and post-grunge indie rock. The album marked a pivotal moment in their evolution thanks to the intricate guitar work by Mitch Wilson and Ryan Ferguson, who blend angular post-hardcore riffs with melodic indie rock sensibility. Tracks like "Your Albatross" and the title track showcase the band's knack for crafting dynamic compositions that shift seamlessly between tension and release. Producer Mark Trombino dials in their sound to perfection, highlighting the two-guitar attack and melodic vocals that define their style. While the band isn't as well know as many of their former pre-00s emo and post-hardcore contemporaries, Hit Man Dreams and the pair of album that follow suggest a serious reconsideration.   Songs In This Episode I Intro - Roped In - Lock On 13:30 - Your Albatross 21:34 - Charades 30:25 - Median Outro - Jackboots   Support the podcast, join the DMO UNION at Patreon. Listen to the episode archive at DigMeOutPodcast.com.

November 5th: Ryan Ferguson's Conviction Vacated (2013) You never know what the tipping point will be to earn an arrest and whether or not that thing will be valid and true. On November 5th 2013 a man's life changed forever in a case that saw strange circumstances that led to an arrest. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_W._Ferguson, https://www.columbiatribune.com/story/news/local/2022/03/15/charles-erickson-parole-january-2023-murder-kent-heitholt-ryan-ferguson/7053910001/, https://www.komu.com/news/midmissourinews/charles-erickson-released-from-prison-after-serving-nearly-20-years-for-kent-heitholt-murder/article_26c2f4aa-9034-11ed-b341-9bdec775b490.html, http://www.freecharleserickson.org/casesummary.html, https://krcgtv.com/news/local/charles-erickson-out-of-prison-on-parole-serving-18-years-for-murder-of-kent-heitholt-ryan-ferguson, https://www.ky3.com/2023/01/10/man-convicted-columbia-sport-editors-death-2001-out-prison-parole/, https://abc17news.com/news/crime/2022/03/15/erickson-convicted-in-columbia-murder-to-be-paroled-in-january/, https://www.crimemuseum.org/crime-library/famous-prisons-incarceration/ryan-ferguson/, https://allthatsinteresting.com/ryan-ferguson Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today's talk: SPORTS (college football playoffs and 50-50 club). Ryan comes on to talk new iPhone. KWAYI: BATS. Comments. SURVIVOR TALK My Website. Patreon

In honor of Father's Day we decided to throw one of our many True Crime and Chill episodes on the main feed for those of you who aren't currently in the crime family! We watched and reviewed the documentary Dream Killer way way back in 2021. This is the case of Ryan Ferguson who was wrongfully convicted of murder and his father's relentless effort to free him! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today's talk: Ryan comes on and we talk Subway, griddle burgers, outdoor tv's. KWAYI: Woods Room. Comments Ryan's Website My Website. Patreon

Today's talk: A call is made to Ryan Ferguson to discuss the 50 hour Slam and his song of the day event. KWAYI: OG College Football People. Comments. My Website. Patreon

Fasten your shoe laces (and bolt your table to the floor if you're prone to flipping them), because Rebekah is taking us around the world, but mostly to Missouri for this “rule breaking” and triumphant story.Ryan Ferguson is not merely an author, podcast host, and former Amazing Race 3rd Place winner; he is also an exoneree whose remarkable story captured national attention. While his appearances on two reality shows garnered recognition, it was the events of 2003 that truly thrust him into the spotlight.Oh, and the Holderness Family makes an appearance in the story.Melissa gave the following clues for next episode:TowelsTraitorTipsHere's what the hosts are watching as of today's episode:Melissa: Curb Your Enthusiasm, MAXRebekah: Farmer Wants a Wife, HuluFollow us on social media! We are @criminalityshow on IG/FB + Twitter, but mostly just IG. TikTok @criminalitypodcasktiktokYou can say hi and tell us what you're watching: criminalityshow@gmail.comEnjoy the show? Please rate/review then share with a friend because loving REALITY isn't a CRIME! https://pod.link/criminalityCheck out our website and new holiday MERCH: https://www.criminalityshow.com/criminality-shopSources:CBShttps://www.cbsnews.com/news/ryan-fergusons-fight-for-freedom/ABChttps://abcnews.go.com/US/murder-convict-freed-case-unravels/story?id=20207994Entertainment Weeklyhttps://ew.com/tv/the-amazing-race-season-33-cast/https://www.komu.com/news/liveblog-ryan-fergusons-release/article_bc8d1463-e583-54db-972c-b1ae9fb28172.htmlMid Missouri newshttps://www.komu.com/news/midmissourinews/Chuck-erickson-released-from-prison-after-serving-nearly-20-years-for-kent-heitholt-murder/article_26c2f4aa-9034-11ed-b341-9bdec775b490.htmlKOMU.comhttps://www.komu.com/news/liveblog-ryan-fergusons-release/article_bc8d1463-e583-54db-972c-b1ae9fb28172.htmlDream/Killer DocumentaryAmazing Race YouTubehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a76HmSuUGbAHolderness Family YouTubehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kjoUjOHjPISee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Fasten your shoe laces (and bolt your table to the floor if you're prone to flipping them), because Rebekah is taking us around the world, but mostly to Missouri for this “rule breaking” and triumphant story. Ryan Ferguson is not merely an author, podcast host, and former Amazing Race 3rd Place winner; he is also an exoneree whose remarkable story captured national attention. While his appearances on two reality shows garnered recognition, it was the events of 2003 that truly thrust him into the spotlight. Oh, and the Holderness Family makes an appearance in the story. Melissa gave the following clues for next episode: Towels Traitor Tips Here's what the hosts are watching as of today's episode: Melissa: Curb Your Enthusiasm, MAX Rebekah: Farmer Wants a Wife, Hulu Follow us on social media! We are @criminalityshow on IG/FB + Twitter, but mostly just IG. TikTok @criminalitypodcasktiktok You can say hi and tell us what you're watching: criminalityshow@gmail.com Enjoy the show? Please rate/review then share with a friend because loving REALITY isn't a CRIME! https://pod.link/criminality Check out our website and new holiday MERCH: https://www.criminalityshow.com/criminality-shop Sources: CBS https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ryan-fergusons-fight-for-freedom/ ABC https://abcnews.go.com/US/murder-convict-freed-case-unravels/story?id=20207994 Entertainment Weekly https://ew.com/tv/the-amazing-race-season-33-cast/ https://www.komu.com/news/liveblog-ryan-fergusons-release/article_bc8d1463-e583-54db-972c-b1ae9fb28172.html Mid Missouri news https://www.komu.com/news/midmissourinews/Chuck-erickson-released-from-prison-after-serving-nearly-20-years-for-kent-heitholt-murder/article_26c2f4aa-9034-11ed-b341-9bdec775b490.html KOMU.com https://www.komu.com/news/liveblog-ryan-fergusons-release/article_bc8d1463-e583-54db-972c-b1ae9fb28172.html Dream/Killer Documentary Amazing Race YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a76HmSuUGbA    Holderness Family YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kjoUjOHjPI Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Erin continues her chat with former homicide detective Gary Jubelin. Erin describes giving her home address to the “BTK” serial killer Dennis Rader, the difficulty of connecting serial killings, and the ripple effect one murder can have on multiple people. Erin also opens up about her coverage of Ryan Ferguson's wrongful conviction and her take on the media in the criminal justice system. This episode is a special presentation of I Catch Killers with Gary Jubelin. Available wherever you get your podcasts.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Have you ever watched the Amazing Race? Did you ever think we could get a story from the show? No? Well, think again! We learn about the shocking death of the "Gentle Giant" Kent Heitholt from our True Crime gal, Ashley! She goes into the accusations and schemes surrounding the arrest of Ryan Ferguson in relation to Kent's death, and the aftermath. Then, our history gal, Jessica, dips her toes into the true crime world as she talks about a very dangerous cult led by one Adolfo Constanzo. We learn of some interesting practices, as well as some terrible outcomes. So, come on in...we're waiting... Want more of us "lovely ladies"? Well now you can get more of us on our Patreon! Subscribe https://patreon.com/HistoriesandMysteries

Brittany and Heather present some cases that involve false confessions; specifically the false confessions that led to the wrongful convictions of Ryan Ferguson and John Purvis. Grad a drink and prepare yourself for these wild and frustrating stories.

In November 2001, Columbia, Missouri, a sports editor was strangeled and beaten in the carpark of his workplace. With little forensic evidence and no leads, the case went cold – until 2 years later, when a teenager claimed responsibility for the crime and, in the process, implicated one of his friends. Both were subsequently imprisoned for murder – but had the right men been convicted, or had there been a miscarriage of justice? This is what happens when a prosecutor will do whatever it takes to win, regardless of the cost. This is the case of Ryan Ferguson.

Erin Moriarity from CBS News is here to discuss one of the most infuriating and fascinating cases I have ever heard, the curious case of Crosley Green.  About Crosley (quoted from Crowell.com, ): On September 5, 1990, an all-white jury convicted Mr. Green of the first-degree murder of Charles “Chip” Flynn, Jr., a 22-year-old man in Titusville, Fla., and sentenced him to death. Mr. Green was convicted on the testimony of a single eyewitness, the victim's ex-girlfriend, who identified Mr. Green as the perpetrator. In 2009, Crowell won Mr. Green's release from death row, and he was resentenced to life in prison. On July 20, 2018, Crowell secured a critical victory in the case when a federal court in Orlando, Fla., granted Mr. Green's petition for habeas corpus and ordered that he be released or provided a new trial. "The court found that Mr. Green's constitutional rights were violated when Brevard County, Fla., prosecutors withheld witness interview notes that said the first two responding law enforcement officers told the prosecutor that they concluded the victim's ex-girlfriend—not Mr. Green—committed the crime. But the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals reversed Mr. Green's victory, ruling that prosecutors did not need to disclose material exculpatory evidence to defense counsel because it would not have been admissible at trial. "It's a fight for freedom, and the fight isn't over until freedom is achieved,” said partner Keith Harrison. “We intend to approach Governor DeSantis and the parole board. We hope to have a conversation about why Mr. Green deserves to be free. We know Governor DeSantis is a law and order governor who is passionate about justice. We believe he will see that Crosley deserves to be free.” (all legal appeals have been exhausted)  About Erin (quoted from CBSNews.com): Erin Moriarty, a CBS News journalist for three decades, has been a correspondent on "48 Hours" since 1990. In addition to reporting for "48 Hours," Moriarty's work is featured on all CBS News broadcasts and platforms, including "CBS Sunday Morning," "CBS Mornings" and the CBS News Streaming Network.   Moriarty is also the host of the true-crime podcast, "My Life of Crime." At CBS News, Moriarty has covered some of the biggest crime and justice stories of our time, including the wrongful conviction of Ryan Ferguson, the death of JonBenet Ramsey, the ongoing story of millionaire Robert Durst, and the controversial case of Brooke Skylar Richardson, a young Ohio woman tried – and acquitted – for murdering her newborn baby. Follow Erin on social media: https://twitter.com/EFMoriarty https://www.instagram.com/erinfm/ https://www.facebook.com/erinmoriartycbs Follow the show on social media, subscribe to the podcast, learn more about the case, contact us, and learn more about the show here: https://www.flowcode.com/page/wheelwithit    --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/wheelwithit/message

Andrew Jenks (Billion Dollar Babies: The True Story of the Cabbage Patch Kids) hangs with Mike and Mary Jane for a deep dive into his prolific career as an award-winning documentarian and podcaster. He shares how he got his start at 18 when he moved into a retirement home, capturing the most interesting parts of his subjects' lives, why a great editor is like a top chef, and his upcoming dream projects. Plus, Mike and MJ make a deal to open their mail and let their emotions flow! FOLLOW / LEAVE A ⭐️ REVIEW / TELL YOUR STORY Music by Jesse Case Weed + Grub IG Weed + Grub YT Andrew Jenks IG SF Sketchfest Tickets XyliDENT - use code WEEDANDGRUB25 for 25% off Check out TSUMo Snacks - get a free sample! BOTW: Mark Acomb, Raoul Bhaneja, Ryan Ferguson  

Del 2 av fallet Ryan Ferguson och Chuck Ericson.Ett mord sker halloweennatten 2001. En sportredaktör mördas på väg hem efter ett nattskift. 2,5 år senare grips två misstänkta gärningsmän och snart döms de båda för mordet. Men är det verkligen rätt personer man gripit? Ord står mot ord. En säger att de mördade journalisten, den andra att de är oskyldiga. Så vad är sanningen och vem är det egentligen som ljuger?I del två är det dags att gå igenom alla konstiga detaljer, för det är mycket här som inte stämmer.Fall: Ryan Ferguson & Chuck EricsonLänk Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/spoktimmen Musik”Nikol S. & Symphonic band – The shadows of horror (symphonic song)” av Nikol S. (Luna sounds)https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/legalcode KontaktInstagram: @spoktimmen@linnkarolina@jennyborg91 Facebook: Spöktimmen Mail: spoktimmenpodcast@gmail.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Ryan:”Det suger om det måste gå till rättegång. Jag gjorde ingenting och jag tänker inte erkänna något jag inte gjort. Det finns inget annat jag kan göra åt det” Chuck:”Jag är 100% säker på att jag och Ryan Ferguson utförde det här brottet” Ryan:”Jag vet inte vad i helvete han pratar om – jag vet inte om han ljuger eller om han var där. Du säger att han var där, okej, han var där. Men jag var inte där”Ett mord – två gärningsmän. Ord står mot ord. En säger att de mördade journalisten, den andra att de är oskyldiga. Så vad är sanningen och vem är det egentligen som ljuger?Det sista avsnittet för säsongen behövde vi dela upp i två delar då det blev så långt. Del ett släpps här nu och del två kommer på fredag.Fall: Ryan Ferguson & Chuck EricsonLänk Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/spoktimmen KontaktInstagram: @spoktimmen@linnkarolina@jennyborg91 Facebook: Spöktimmen Mail: spoktimmenpodcast@gmail.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

On the night of Halloween, 2001, Kent Heitholt, was murdered. A witness was able to create a composite sketch with police and in late 2003, the Columbia Tribune ran an article on the murder and included the composite sketch. A young man named Charles Erickson saw that sketch and thought he recognized the person. He thought it looked a lot like himself. The problem was, Charles could not remember the night of Halloween 2001. He'd blacked out, and all he knew was that he'd been at a bar near the crime scene. Charles became obsessed with this case, convinced that he was involved in the murder. And if he was involved, then so was the guy that had given him a ride home that night: his friend, Ryan Ferguson. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this interview edition of the Daily Job Hunt, we're speaking with Ryan Ferguson. Ryan has helped hundreds of young professionals launch their careers without college, directed a boot camp at Praxis, and has documented his world travels and experiences in The World Wanderers podcast. Taken from the Supercharge Your Career In a Sh*t Economy event. Want to launch a marketing career, fast? Check out Skillbank. Use code CAREERHACKERS for 20% off tuition. https://bit.ly/3S3vQu8 Get The Daily Job Hunt sent to your inbox every day as well as the sign-up bonuses at https://careerhackers.com/djh/ Can't get enough? Get private video podcasts, private coaching, and private newsletters with Career Hackers bonus content https://careerhackers.com/#/portal/ Want to change your life in 10 weeks? Relaunch into a lucrative and meaningful career in tech with Coding Temple. Use code CareerHackers for up to $500 off tuition. Learn more at https://bit.ly/3dHOHwr In this episode: What it means to be your own credential and how that has been applied in Ryan's life The 30 day blog challenge and how it can help people build a portfolio and a sense of creativity as a habit Building a brand that is intentional and in congruence with the value that you can actually create Showcasing your skills in a marketable way that lets employers know what you've been working on Tips for younger or more inexperienced people trying to break into the creative mindset How easy it is to make yourself stand out from the crowd Guest Links: Praxis: https://discoverpraxis.com/ The World Wanderers Podcast: https://www.theworldwanderers.com/

When Charles (Chuck) Erickson began having vivid dreams regarding an unsolved murder in his hometown- Chuck and his friend Ryan Ferguson would find out just how quickly dreams can turn into literal nightmares. Join Lisa, Matt, and Jules as we breakdown the case where one mans dream landed two friends in the center of the justice system. This case has us debating, and asking all of you, the most important question- Were They There? Special thanks to the producers of todays show, your support means the world! : Michael and Carolyn Y. Matt M.  *Please note all opinions in the show are our own and solely in regards to the specific case we are discussing in this episode* We made a one stop shop for all the Eye for an Eye links our listeners might want to check out whether its where to listen, our merch shop, all of our socials, our email, or ways to support the show, we'd love for you to visit the link below!  https://msha.ke/eyeforeyepod/ Tired of Ads? Want to support our show? Please consider supporting Eye for an Eye with as little as $1 a month via patreon.com/eyeforeyepod Enjoy today's show? Don't forget to rate (those 5 stars are waiting to be clicked), review, subscribe and tell your friends!  Want in on the discussion?Join us on our Facebook page or group, Instagram @eyeforeyepod, twitter @eyeforeyepod or shoot us an email at eyeforeyepod@gmail.com and let us know your thoughts- does the punishment fit the crime? __ Cover Art Created by: Rachel Gregorino, dollbambino@gmail.com Music: GarageBand Mix made by Lisa  __ Sources: http://www.freecharleserickson.org/Witnesses.html https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uVoOg9dwlxM https://www.columbiatribune.com/story/news/local/2021/10/18/kent-heitholt-murdered-20-years-ago-tribune-investigation-trial/8450130002/ https://fox2now.com/news/true-crime/the-2004-murder-of-a-missouri-sports-reporter-and-the-man-who-lost-his-20s/ https://www.the-sun.com/entertainment/4407956/who-is-ryan-ferguson/ https://allthatsinteresting.com/ryan-ferguson https://www.crimemuseum.org/crime-library/famous-prisons-incarceration/ryan-ferguson/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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In 2005, 20-year-old Ryan Ferguson was convicted and sentenced to 40 years in prison for a crime he did not commit, causing his father, Bill, to embark on a 10-year campaign to prove Ryan's innocence. Today we feature Ryan's case as we begin Season 3 of the American Justice Podcast! We hope you enjoy the new format and the cases we'll be brining you in the future. YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/AmericanJusticePodcast Where to Listen: Apple - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/american-justice-podcast/id1442874178 Stitcher - https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/american-justice/s1e1-brandon-woodruff-case-overview Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/5y7UVzvchLxJYbrceVTbvX Online - www.AmericanJusticePodcast.com If you would like to get in touch with us, you can do so in any of the following ways: https://www.facebook.com/americanjusticepodcast https://www.instagram.com/americanjusticepodcast/ https://www.twitter.com/ajusticepodcast https://www.americanjusticepodcast.com Voicemail: (972) 942-0444 Email: info@americanjusticepodcast.com You can reach the hosts here - Scott Poggensee Email - Scott@AtuAProductions.com www.facebook.com/scott.poggensee www.twitter.com/moonscare1 C. Derick Miller www.cderickmiller.com https://www.facebook.com/howlgrowlsnarl https://twitter.com/howlgrowlsnarl https://www.instagram.com/howlgrowlsn/ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCylWekMVEiop3uAPi1MAQ_w https://howlgrowlsnarl.podbean.com/ https://open.spotify.com/user/chadandnez?si=BICZNwedTBCSsdtz90PTNg

This week Danielle and Kristine learn how to survive being falsely accused of a crime, and the hysterical Todd Glass joins us to talk about one of the many times his parents refused to believe him.Episode 29 Show NotesIn this week's episode, Danielle schools Kristine and the audience on avoiding doing time if you ever find yourself being falsely accused of a crime.Danielle shares the riveting story of Amazing Race contestant Ryan Ferguson who spent years behind bars after a wrongful murder conviction.Our guest, comedian Todd Glass (The Todd Glass Show, Ten Year Old Tom) stops by and shares a hilarious tale from his early days on the road.Subscribe to our podcast: https://www.podhowtosurvive.com/ Follow us: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/podhowtosurvive/Twitter: https://twitter.com/podhowtosurvive Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/podhowtosurvive Check out our merch! https://my-store-c409df-2.creator-spring.com/See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In this episode Robin again joins me for another passion case of his previously covered on the trail went cold (his original description and sources are below). Robin takes me through all the twists and turns of a case that clearly illustrates just how many ways the system can get it wrong and the difficulty one faces in righting those wrongs. Support the show: Patreon.com/julesandashleyNovember 1, 2001. Columbia, Missouri. Kent Heitholt, a 48-year old sports editor for the Columbia Daily Tribune, is severely beaten and strangled to death in their parking lot. Two-and-a-half years later, investigators are led towards a young suspect named Charles Erickson, who has told people he had vivid dreams of himself and his friend, Ryan Ferguson, murdering Kent after leaving a nearby bar that night. After Charles confesses to the crime, both he and Ryan are charged with Kent's murder and Charles' testimony helps convict Ryan and send him to prison for 40 years. However, after Charles and another key witness recant their testimony, Ryan's conviction is vacated and he is released from prison in 2013. Even though many feel that Charles is also innocent of the crime, he continues to remain incarcerated. If Ryan Ferguson and Charles Erickson did not murder Kent Heitholt, then who did? Additional Reading:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_W._Fergusonhttps://www.law.umich.edu/special/exoneration/Pages/casedetail.aspx?caseid=4304http://www.freecharleserickson.org/index.html

Ryan Ferguson is a world traveler and the co-host of The World Wanderers Podcast.After having visited 6 continents and 45 countries, he has gained perspective on life and culture. Today he comes on the podcast to talk about his experiences and the lessons he's learned. If you're like me, you've always thought about traveling, but there are things that get in the way -- fear, money, time, commitment, etc. Ryan eased my racing thoughts throughout this conversation and recommends travel for everyone. I hope you enjoy the episode!Follow me on Instagram: @micaela_inbloom Twitter: @micaela_inbloom Find more information about each episode at micaelarichmond.com/inbloompodcast/

Do you worry about being convicted of a crime you didn't commit? You might after this week's episode! First, Anna goes over the various ways you can be implicated in a crime you didn't commit, and Benton tells the tale of the murder of Riley Fox, whose murder would only by solved by the intervention of defense attorney, Kathleen Zellner. Then, Anna relays the case of Ryan Ferguson, who was convicted on no more than the details of a dream. Finally, the two settle in for a classic case of Cold Case Files, profiling the exoneration of Ronnie Bullock.Our TV doc this week is the pilot episode of Cold Case Files Classic: Story 4, the exoneration of Ronnie Bullock.

“Amazing Race” Season 33 contestant Ryan Ferguson spent nearly 10 years in prison after being wrongfully convicted of a 2001 murder in his hometown of Columbia, Missouri.  Ryan was a 17-year-old high-school student at the time of the murder he was wrongfully accused of murder and was sentenced to 40 years imprisonment. On November 1, 2001, Kent Heitholt, sports editor for the Columbia (Missouri) Daily Tribune was murdered  in the newspaper's parking lot around 2:10 am.  Two years later, a young man named Charles Erickson began publicly sharing recurring dreams that he and his former classmate Ryan Ferguson were involved. What followed was viewed by many as a series of finger-pointing, confusing confessions, questionable police work, awkward eye witnesses and a prosecution team hell-bent on solving the case. The result: Ryan Ferguson was sentenced to 40 years in prison based almost exclusively on “eye witness” accounts from teenage dreamer Erickson and Tribune janitor Jerry Trump who, at trial, miraculously gained the ability to positively identify Erickson and Ferguson. Both witnesses later recanted their testimony, claiming that police and prosecuting attorney Kevin Crane, now a circuit court judge, had coerced them to lie.  The 2005 conviction was vacated on November 5, 2013, by the Western District of the Missouri Court of Appeals, and Ferguson was released on the evening of November 12 after spending nearly a decade in prison. He won $11 million in a civil suit against Missouri police. A documentary entitled “dream/killer” chronicles the story of how Ryan's father, Bill Ferguson, embarked on a 10-year campaign to prove Ryan's innocence. Ryan's podcast, PRISON COUNTS, can be found wherever you get your podcasts. JONES.SHOW is a weekly podcast featuring host Randall Kenneth Jones (author, speaker & creative communications consultant) and Susan C. Bennett (the original voice of Siri). JONES.SHOW is produced and edited by Kevin Randall Jones. Ryan Ferguson Online: Prison Counts Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/prison-counts/id1602931878 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lifeafterten  Twitter: https://twitter.com/lifeafterten Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/FreedRyanFerguson  JONES.SHOW Online:    Join us in the Jones.Show Lounge on Facebook. Twitter (Randy): https://twitter.com/randallkjones  Instagram (Randy): https://www.instagram.com/randallkennethjones/ Facebook (Randy): https://www.facebook.com/mindzoo/ Web:  RandallKennethJones.com Follow Randy on Clubhouse Twitter (Susan): https://twitter.com/SiriouslySusan Instagram (Susan): https://www.instagram.com/siriouslysusan/ Facebook (Susan): https://www.facebook.com/siriouslysusan/ Web: SusanCBennett.com Follow Susan on Clubhouse LinkedIn (Kevin): https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevin-randall-jones/  Web: KevinRandallJones.com  www.Jones.Show

Ryan Ferguson is wrongfully convicted of a murder his so called partner in crime Chuck confesses too. The only thing is Chuck dreamt up the whole thing!  Bill Ferguson, Ryan's dad,  takes on the American judicial system  to free his son from prison. 

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Arrested for something someone saw in their dreams, Ryan Ferguson hoped justice would prevail in court. He wasn't prepared to face a corrupt system, fabricated evidence, and a prosecutor who seemed willing to do anything to win. It would take an army to right some of the wrongs, but an innocent man remains in jail and a killer is still on the loose. Please consider supporting the companies that support us! -Subscribe today to Love Murder on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you listen to podcasts - Ready to give your brain some TLC? Download Best Fiends FREE today on the App Store or Google Play -Get 10% off your first month at betterhelp.com/SINISTER. Join the over 1,000,000 people who have taken charge of their mental health with the help of an experienced professional -Allform is offering twenty percent off all orders for our listeners at Allform.com/CREEPY dot com slash creepy -Get 25% off Fabulous Premium by going to thefab.co/CREEPY  -Go to NativeDeo.com/SINISTER, or use promo code CREEPY at checkout, and get 25% off your first order -Go to GoodChop.com/CREEPY100 and use code CREEPY100 to get $100 off your first 3 boxes Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Arrested for something someone saw in their dreams, Ryan Ferguson hoped justice would prevail in court. He wasn't prepared to face a corrupt system, fabricated evidence, and a prosecutor who seemed willing to do anything to win. It would take an army to right some of the wrongs, but an innocent man remains in jail and a killer is still on the loose. Please consider supporting the companies that support us! -Subscribe today to Love Murder on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you listen to podcasts - Ready to give your brain some TLC? Download Best Fiends FREE today on the App Store or Google Play -Get 10% off your first month at betterhelp.com/SINISTER. Join the over 1,000,000 people who have taken charge of their mental health with the help of an experienced professional -Allform is offering twenty percent off all orders for our listeners at Allform.com/CREEPY dot com slash creepy -Get 25% off Fabulous Premium by going to thefab.co/CREEPY  -Go to NativeDeo.com/SINISTER, or use promo code CREEPY at checkout, and get 25% off your first order -Go to GoodChop.com/CREEPY100 and use code CREEPY100 to get $100 off your first 3 boxes Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

A college town is shocked by the heinous and violent murder of one of the city's most beloved journalists. For two years, the case was cold until an unlikely pair of suspects emerged. The only problem? There was no evidence linking either of them to the crime. Still, one of them confessed leading to a years-long battle for justice. Please consider supporting the companies that support us! -Visit www.smartassandsass.com and use code CREEPY for 15% off your first subscription and shop orders -Helix is offering up to $200 off all mattress orders AND two free pillows for our listeners at Helixsleep.com/creepy -Visit hiyahealth.com/CREEPY or enter code CREEPY at checkout for 50% off your first order -Visit publicgoods.com/CREEPY or use code CREEPY at checkout for $15 off your first purchase -Go to JustThriveHealth.com and use code CREEPY at checkout for 15% off your order -Get your FREE LMNT Sample Pack at DrinkLMNT.com/CREEPY - This deal is not available on their regular website! -Visit parade.com/CREEPY and use code CREEPY to get 20% off your order Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

A college town is shocked by the heinous and violent murder of one of the city's most beloved journalists. For two years, the case was cold until an unlikely pair of suspects emerged. The only problem? There was no evidence linking either of them to the crime. Still, one of them confessed leading to a years-long battle for justice. Please consider supporting the companies that support us! -Visit www.smartassandsass.com and use code CREEPY for 15% off your first subscription and shop orders -Helix is offering up to $200 off all mattress orders AND two free pillows for our listeners at Helixsleep.com/creepy -Visit hiyahealth.com/CREEPY or enter code CREEPY at checkout for 50% off your first order -Visit publicgoods.com/CREEPY or use code CREEPY at checkout for $15 off your first purchase -Go to JustThriveHealth.com and use code CREEPY at checkout for 15% off your order -Get your FREE LMNT Sample Pack at DrinkLMNT.com/CREEPY - This deal is not available on their regular website! -Visit parade.com/CREEPY and use code CREEPY to get 20% off your order Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This weeks castaway is Ryan Ferguson. He shares his favourite songs along with telling us about his life. We also discuss his epiphany moment when he saw the light and became a Yankees fan.

Welcome to Prison Counts! This episode is a quick introduction to your hosts Ryan Ferguson and David Dowling. Both having spent time in prison, (one innocent, the other guilty), they became friends while in a maximum security prison and this is their podcast to expose what it's really like to be arrested, tried, convicted, and ultimately sent to prison in America. 

Ryan Ferguson is a long-time personal friend and friend of the show. His success as a sales rep led to another successful venture in sales management. Ryan is a master at being true to himself. He knows what has made him successful and he sticks to it. You will hear his "oh shucks" demeanor sprinkled throughout this podcast. This is his amazing style that is naturally part of his persona and he leans into it beautifully.Some of the points shared in this podcast:Finding the right mentorBe in the place of action (finding a job in the hospital cafeteria)Get your foot in the door until you get your shotAlways show thanksBe genuinely interested in the prospect/clientHave a great accountability partnerHow to motivate your team... Ryan is naturally curious and constantly caring. He asks questions because he actually wants to find the answers. We would love to have you on the podcast. Please reach out to us and share a story with us. We look forward to having you part of our conversation!Mike@thesellingpodcast.comScott@thesellingpodcast.com

In 2001, Kent Heitholt was murdered. He was the first victim in this awful case. Shortly after, two teens would be convicted of his murder over a dream. Ryan Ferguson would continue to spend 10 years in prison for a crime he had never committed and his father along with Kathleen Zellner would have to fight for his innocence. Buckle up and sit tight, this case is a shit show of epic proportions. If you are interested in starting your own podcast we highly recommend Buzzsprout! It's easy to use and keeps all your podcasts in one place. Click the link below to get started and help us out!https://www.buzzsprout.com/?referrer_id=1789618Check us out on social media!Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/obscuriositypodFacebook:https://www.facebook.com/ObscuriosityPodcastTikTok:https://www.tiktok.com/@obscuriositypodcastContact us at:ObscuriosityPodcast@gmail.comSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/obscuriositypodcast)

Ryan Ferguson shares why schedules and routines are bad for his mental health. This is part 2 of 2. Episode 1990: [Part 2] Why Schedules and Routines are Bad For My Mental Health by Ryan Ferguson on the Downfalls of Progress Ryan Ferguson is a writer, author, blogger and journalist. His work has been published by the Guardian, BBC Sport and Liverpool Echo, while he has also appeared on talkSPORT, BBC Radio Merseyside and Radio City Talk. Ryan has been featured by MLB.com and the New York Post. He is the published author of two books. The original post is located here: https://ryanferguson.co.uk/blogs/mental-health/why-schedules-and-routines-are-bad-for-my-mental-health  Thanks to medically backed fitness, Fit Forever members are feeling improvements in their posture, flexibility, strength, and joint health within one week. Sign up today at FitForever.com, and use code OLD for $10 off at checkout. Please Rate & Review the Show!  Visit Me Online at OLDPodcast.com and in The O.L.D. Facebook Group  Join the Ol' Family to get your Free Gifts and join our online community: OLDPodcast.com/group   Interested in advertising on the show? Visit https://www.advertisecast.com/OptimalLivingDaily Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ryan Ferguson shares why schedules and routines are bad for his mental health. This is part 2 of 2. Episode 1990: [Part 2] Why Schedules and Routines are Bad For My Mental Health by Ryan Ferguson on the Downfalls of Progress Ryan Ferguson is a writer, author, blogger and journalist. His work has been published by the Guardian, BBC Sport and Liverpool Echo, while he has also appeared on talkSPORT, BBC Radio Merseyside and Radio City Talk. Ryan has been featured by MLB.com and the New York Post. He is the published author of two books. The original post is located here: https://ryanferguson.co.uk/blogs/mental-health/why-schedules-and-routines-are-bad-for-my-mental-health  Thanks to medically backed fitness, Fit Forever members are feeling improvements in their posture, flexibility, strength, and joint health within one week. Sign up today at FitForever.com, and use code OLD for $10 off at checkout. Please Rate & Review the Show!  Visit Me Online at OLDPodcast.com and in The O.L.D. Facebook Group  Join the Ol' Family to get your Free Gifts and join our online community: OLDPodcast.com/group   Interested in advertising on the show? Visit https://www.advertisecast.com/OptimalLivingDaily Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ryan Ferguson shares why schedules and routines are bad for his mental health. This is part 1 of 2. Episode 1989: [Part 1] Why Schedules and Routines are Bad For My Mental Health by Ryan Ferguson on the Downfalls of Progress Ryan Ferguson is a writer, author, blogger and journalist. His work has been published by the Guardian, BBC Sport and Liverpool Echo, while he has also appeared on talkSPORT, BBC Radio Merseyside and Radio City Talk. Ryan has been featured by MLB.com and the New York Post. He is the published author of two books. The original post is located here: https://ryanferguson.co.uk/blogs/mental-health/why-schedules-and-routines-are-bad-for-my-mental-health   Visit Me Online at OLDPodcast.com Interested in advertising on the show? Visit https://www.advertisecast.com/OptimalLivingDaily Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ryan Ferguson shares why schedules and routines are bad for his mental health. This is part 1 of 2. Episode 1989: [Part 1] Why Schedules and Routines are Bad For My Mental Health by Ryan Ferguson on the Downfalls of Progress Ryan Ferguson is a writer, author, blogger and journalist. His work has been published by the Guardian, BBC Sport and Liverpool Echo, while he has also appeared on talkSPORT, BBC Radio Merseyside and Radio City Talk. Ryan has been featured by MLB.com and the New York Post. He is the published author of two books. The original post is located here: https://ryanferguson.co.uk/blogs/mental-health/why-schedules-and-routines-are-bad-for-my-mental-health   Visit Me Online at OLDPodcast.com Interested in advertising on the show? Visit https://www.advertisecast.com/OptimalLivingDaily Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

For more than 50 years, Gordon Lightfoot has written and recorded some of the most beautiful and thoughtful songs ever created. We catch up with the man who Bob Dylan calls his mentor to discuss his 50+ years in the business about his career and why changes to the music business excite, rather than frighten, him.

Thanks for listening! Follow us on instagram @themurderdiariespod or email us at themurderdiariespod@gmail.com Buy us a coffee and support the show! https://www.buymeacoffee.com/mdiariespod Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/themurderdiariespod?fan_landing=true) Music Used: Walking with the Dead by Maia Wynne Link: https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Maiah_Wynne/Live_at_KBOO_for_A_Popcalypse_11012017 License: https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/4.0/

I'm going to be honest. Ryan Ferguson and Amanda Kingsmith don't look like your typical “rebels” when you first meet them or hear their very kind Canadian voices on their podcast, but, as you will hear in my interview with them, Ryan and Amanda have learned how to defy the conventional life that was set out for them in small-town Canada again and again in their nine years of traveling the world together—despite having no idea where it would take them. They followed the life manual to a tee, graduating from college and getting the type of jobs that college degrees were made for—until they found they couldn't anymore and decided to write their own rules, while also learning how to travel successfully as a couple. This is their story—and I think you're going to love it.

This week Amanda and Mariel briefly discuss the Ryan Ferguson case and the corrupt prosecutor, Kevin Crane. Mariel shares some thoughts on Ted Bundy. Then Amanda discusses the cruel death of 10-year-old Emani Moss, followed by the story of husband killer Wendi Andriano by Mariel. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/the-women-of-death-row/support

n a 2004 story in the Arkansas Times, Vicki Hutcheson said about the trip to the esbat: “Every word of it was a lie.”  Lie or not, her testimony played no role in the Echols/Baldwin case and was not crucial to the conviction of Misskelley.  Jurors there were largely convinced by the confession, particularly where Misskelley described chasing down Michael. Some jurors told reporters that the occult trappings were not particularly convincing and were ultimately irrelevant to reaching a guilty verdict.  Though she later claimed coercion,  police interviews indicated Vicki was eager to play a starring role in the investigation, perhaps with hopes of collecting a reward. As Bray described her role in his notes on a June 2, 1993, interview: “She said she was trying to play detective because she had heard Damien was involved in devil worship and she thought it might be connected to the murders.” In 2004, Hutcheson told the Arkansas Times that she only testified as instructed by the West Memphis PD, under a threat that she would have her child taken from her and that she could be implicated in the murders.  There was no evidence of a police threat.   She testified in 1994 that “West Memphis knew nothing” about her plan to “play detective” when she set up   meetings with Echols. “I decided that on my own. Those boys I loved, and I wanted their killers caught.” As for the $30,000 reward, “it had nothing to do with it.” She did receive help from law enforcement in checking out occult books from the library, in an effort to impress Echols, and in setting up a recording device under her bed. Police said the resulting tapes were of such poor quality as to be of no use; she claimed to hear high-quality recordings.   She testified she never met John Fogleman until a month or two before the trial.    Her statements were filled with largely unsolicited and unschooled details about interactions with Misskelley and Echols.    Aaron considered Michael and Christopher his best friends, dating from when he lived on East Barton.  According to his mother, “those were his only friends.” In a May 28, 1993, interview with Ridge and Sudbury, she described picking up Aaron after school on May 5:  “I was waiting in where the teachers park on the side of Weaver Elementary, and watching for Aaron. It was approximately 15 after 3, and Michael Moore came to one side of my truck and Christopher Byers to the other and Aaron you know close to them … and they were telling me Ms. Vicki there's a Cub Scout thing tonight, and Aaron  needs to go, and Michael's father is their troop leader and  … Michael was really incessant upon Aaron going, and uh, they just keep saying there's a Cub Scout thing. Ms. Vicki … he has to go, he has to go. And I said no this is Wednesday night. Cub Scouts are tomorrow Thursday night and they just kept on. Finally you know, they got it through he wasn't going to go, because I just thought they wanted to go and play, and um, he said well then can Aaron just come to my house, and you can pick him up in two hours. Which I had done frequently so he had assumed I would do it then, and I just said no because I had some errand to ran. Aaron did not go. … I went home.” She went to the grocery about 5:30 and stopped somewhere to eat, with Aaron in tow. “He was never alone.”  They got home “probably about eight or so.”  Among her errands, she would tell prosecutors, was going to the liquor store to purchase two bottles of Evan Williams whiskey for Jessie Misskelley Jr. and Dennis Carter, who were both underage. His mother's story on May 28 contradicted any stories Aaron told about his trip to Robin Hood that afternoon. She gave a different version of Aaron's activities for May 5 on June 2, abruptly becoming unable to account for him that afternoon while he was nominally under the care of a babysitter. The June 2 version gave Aaron time to go to the woods.   On May 6, after discovering his friends were missing, she pulled Aaron out of school and took him over to the Moore house. She said, “Todd asked Aaron if he might know did Chris or Michael say anything  to him, to the effect where they might be. He said no, there, you know you can tell when your child is lying and it was like he knew something was up. And uh, he said after we had left the Moores coming out of their door he told me Mama let's to go the club house. We need to go to the club house.” She had been to the site before,  the “clubhouse” being boards nailed up in a tree.  She was not able to get there because the entry at the dead end of McCauley was cordoned off by police.  The question persists as to whether there was a “clubhouse.” Jessie Misskelley in one confession mentioned the “clubhouse” and then corrected himself, saying he had been thinking of a clubhouse near Highland.  Aaron gave little description of the clubhouse, which he repeatedly mentioned. It may have been formed largely by imagination —- whether by the boys or just Aaron.  Boys commonly stake out territory as “clubhouses,” treehouses  and “forts”  in play. Old boards at the scene could have been part of the “clubhouse.” “Aaron told me that um he and Michael and Chris visit their club house every day and they rode their bikes and they were spying on 5 men and ah I asked him who they were and he said I don't know Mom who they were I just you know we just spying on em. I said why would you be spying on 5 men, you know? And he said well they were there every day so we would watch them. I said what made you interested in them. He said because they paint themselves and they have dragon shirts and they talk in Spanish. And I say, Aaron, they talk in Spanish how do you know that's Spanish? I mean, you don't know Spanish. He said well I don't understand what they're saying, and they sing bad things, and I said like what kind of bad things. My father being a preacher, Aaron has been in my church quite often, you know, and … “He said they sing about the Devil, and, you know, that we love the Devil and um he said, I think that they love the Devil more than God, Mom. And I told him … why didn't y'all leave why didn't you come home, were you scared? They said no we hid. They couldn't see us. … I said so y'all went there every day.  He said we went there every day but wouldn't go on Friday. And I told him why how do you know Friday? And he said, well because that's the day before the weekend, you know, the last day of school and I know that it was Friday and they didn't come. And ah, I said okay what happened? What did they do? And he said well when they first saw them you know they sat around a fire in a circle by this tree … they did this like several times and then they'd sing a song and they'd … dance around the tree. Then he told me that these 5 men took their clothes off. And I said Aaron you know that they took their clothes off, why didn't you leave? And he said because we were scared. And they were scared, I guess, of getting caught then and ah he said Michael kept telling him that it was an Indian thing they were supposed to do and Chris said no they're getting ready to have sex. And I told Aaron, Aaron doesn't know about sex and we talked about it and all the books that you've seen um he said that they had their peters in each other's butts and said they watched. … And I just got into detail with him. With the sex thing. … “I know he's telling the truth.” Vicki added: “Jessie Misskelley had told Aaron that um the boys killer had been found. And ah Aaron was ecstatic over it. He was very happy…. “He later found that that wasn't true … “… What's really weird is that he said you know exactly that it was a Satanistic group, namely the Dragons.” She also related that she had heard third-hand that Robert Burks — actually Robert Burch — had told a teen girl that he had killed the boys and would kill the girl if she talked.  Burch, whose name came up repeatedly in the investigation, talked to police and offered no alibi, but there was nothing but rumor and an acquaintance with Baldwin and Misskelley linking him to the case.  Vicki also named some of Damien's friends in the Satan worshippers:  Shawn “Spider” Webb, “Burks,” “Snake,”  “Jason, some little boy named Jason, I don't know his name he lives in Lakeshore,” and Misskelley.   “There's a guy he calls Lucy but everyone else calls Lucifer. … He's an older guy he's, he's probably closer to my age, thirty. … I haven't really been real up close with him you know I've seen him in a car, um, he's got brownish hair and he does have a big nose. … I believe he had glasses on.”  She said Lucifer drove an old beaten-up car “like an Impala or Caprice. … It looked like ah primer color. You know like they were gonna paint it.” The mysterious “Lucifer” popped up again and again in descriptions of the cult in Lakeshore, with varying characteristics, though consistently described as older than the teens.  In her May 28 interview, Vicki described how, shortly after the killings, she sent Aaron out of town for eight days to stay with her sister, meanwhile talking to people about the case, including “a Little Jessie, Jessie Misskelley, lives down the street from me and you know that I was really close to him … because he was always around. He doesn't go to school or anything.  He like help you mow the lawn and stuff and I'd gotten really close with him. He made mention after this came out that um he had saw Chris Byers over by the Beacon that morning on the morning that you know they were found and that Chris was in a pink shirt and even picked him out in the paper to me … that was odd for him to say something like that so … I just keep talking with Jessie cause ah Jessie's I means not a bad kid but you know you don't know who people know. So I just kept talking to Jessie about stuff and Jessie told me about a friend of his named Damien and this friend drank blood and stuff. He just keep going on and on on about how weird he was and stuff. So by the way you know the stuff that we knew the public knew that was coming out in the paper and stuff I just thought how they were killed was odd but you know maybe it was like a devil worshipping thing or you know something just hit me that might be it and I thought that this kid doing this you know maybe he knew something or  …. or maybe Jessie knew something so um Jessie had told me that Damien hang out at Lakeshore and so I went out of my way, you know, to try to go around Lakeshore and, you know, people around there and I told Jessie I had seen Damien and he asked me how did I know it was Damien? And I said that there was a little boy Adam who's a friend of mine's little boy … and he had …  pointed him out to me and … he said well you know he's kinda weird. I said no, I think he's hot. I really want to go out with him. Can you fix me up with him? And you know he was real surprised but he said yeah, if you want to go out with him I'll fix you up with him and he did.” So Hutcheson thought that “maybe Jessie knew something” based on strange things he had said and the fact that Misskelley was fascinated with Echols' weird practices and beliefs, such as drinking blood.   Jessie fixed up Vicki and Damien.  It didn't take much persuasion;  Misskelley drove Hutcheson's pickup over to Baldwin's home, told Echols that he knew a women who wanted to meet him and Echols went along for the ride.  Eventually Echols would show up at her trailer about six times, apparently never spending much time, according to Hutcheson.  She told police that she was not attracted to Echols and found him frightening.  She said they never had sex.  Based on her retraction statements years later, Echols actually showed up just once for a very brief, awkward visit.  Hutcheson told Ridge: “He came to my house, the very first time I met him. … We talked about um lots of different stuff. He's not real real talkative. You you kinda have to pull things out of him but he uh keep telling me about the boys murders and how he had been he said… questioned. He always said that I was accused for 8 hours I was accused of killing those 3 little boys and … I just acted like it was no big deal. … And I said well you know why would they pick you in West Memphis you know? There are bookoo's of people. Why would they just pick you out?  And he just looked at me I mean just really weird. And said because I'm evil. … “He called me um he told me that he would like to see me again and stuff like this and ah I said okay. So you know he just kept coming over and he never really um gave me times or when I'm coming but he would just drop in. … “And uh in the meantime communicating with Officer Bray I had gotten some Satanic books and witch books and all this and we were sitting on my couch and I had laid them out where he could see them right close to my table. He said, you know he picked one up, and asked me what I was doing. I got out a Cosmopolitan, and in the back there was a wicka  thing that you write to, and you can become a witch or go to witch school or something like that. Anyway I told him not to worry you know this is what I'm wanting to be and he just looked at me really weird and he said you don't have to go like that. You don't have to go there to do that. … “No.  It would all come in time is what he said. It'll happen in time. … “The next day after he finds out that I'm wanting to go do this he told me and asked me did I want to go to esbat. I didn't know what esbat was. I looked it up in the book and found out that it was a meeting and I thought immediately yeah this is where I want to go. I want to see what's going on. … “Then he took me, he picked me up and he took me in a red Escort. He drove us to Turrell, and ah ….” She said Misskelley went along for the ride to Turrell, a small poor community of about 800 residents about 12 miles north of Marion.  The Wapanocca National Wildlife Refuge, centered around Lake Wapanocca, is adjacent to the township.  The esbat location sometimes is referred to as Turrell-Twist or Twist, the name of a small farm-based community at the Crittenden-Cross county line.  Misskelley told officers on June 3 that Damien drove a red car owned by Jack Echols. Among the many criticisms t about the esbat story are  a) Damien didn't drive and b) Damien didn't have access to a red car.  It seems unlikely that Misskelley mentioned the red car just to corroborate  Hutcheson's story.   Hutcheson described the trip “… He um took us to —- I'm not really familiar, I'm from Springdale, so I'm not familiar with this area even — but Turrell. I was really lost. … “… I do know where kinda where he went you know we turned off and hit a dirt road and about by some kind of water and in woods in a field and by the time we had gotten there … it was dark. Um, it was quite a drive. … “And we went out, got out of the car and … it was just really dark especially out you know in the woods. It was just dark and I was scared a little bit in fact but we held hands just like you would hold my hand and keep trying to comfort me. He knew I was scared. … “… He told me it would be okay you know not to be scared, don't worried and ah Jessie went to the crowd. Then you could see there was  a crowd of kids.” There were about 10, none over age 18, with faces painted black. “… What you could see of their bodies without … their clothes you know was painted their  … arms were painted, you know, they had on jeans …. “They stood around and it seemed like they were just talking and stuff and Damien and I stood back away from them.  We never went to the crowd.” A teen she knew, Shawn Webb, stepped away to talk with them.  “… When he got close enough to me I could tell who he was. He talked with Damien um you know just what's up you know just bull crap and then walked back over and then these kids took their clothes off and began touching each other and I knew what was going to happen ….  “I looked at Damien and said I want to leave … He said okay. … Jessie stayed. … “After he brought me home we went into my house and you know just sat there and talked and stuff and he never made comment about it or anything. It was like it never even happened. … He went, he left, and went home.” She said this occurred on Wednesday, May 19. “… He called me on Thursday and he told me about this girl being pregnant … and you know he's going to have to take care of her or make her think he's that you know he's faithful to her. … And so ah the word has gotten out that I was seeing him because I'm a you know an older woman and … everything so he said we're going to have to kinda cool it and keep it down … and so I kinda thought well God I've ruined it, you know, she's ruined it for me and I'm not going to be able to see him anymore. I thought he'd just quit calling. … “But he called all the time wanting me know you know what men are at my house. … And I do have a boyfriend that I see all the time and ah so he you know is there quite often.  “… My house was really quiet … this last Wednesday. Nobody came over or anything. Jim came over after he got off work and it was about 1:30 when he got off and we just sat and talked on the couch and watched a movie. It was about 3:30 and we heard this big when I mean it sounded really horrible, it scared me to death. And ah so Jim got up, he and I both got up and went to my door and we looked out front underneath um my window where I keep plants. I have like a really thick board that's been nailed up and has some bolts underneath it and this thing was broke completely in half. … No one was around. … I asked Damien. He called me last night. I asked him um what did you do Wednesday night, hung out. I said you didn't come to my house did you? He said I know you were there with Jim, that's all that matters and that's it. That was the end of it.” Ridge asked, “Did he say he was jealous of that?” Vicki replied, “Are you kidding, I mean you could tell that he's mad. … He was very calm but aggravated is what I would call it.” In a June 2 interview, Hutcheson repeated much of her story to Bray and said someone the night before had been looking into her windows.   She left 15-year-old roommate Christy Anderson babysitting Aaron while she went to Kroger. When she returned around 11 p.m., a 15-year-old friend visiting the trailer said she had seen someone looking into the living room window.  Aaron reported someone had been looking into his bedroom window and had pulled on a wire leading into the bedroom hard enough to pull a console from under the bed.  Apparently no one called the police, and no suspect was found.  The incident was similar to incidents in which Echols was seen stalking children and young girls.   The night before he was arrested,  Misskelley spent the night at the Hutcheson trailer, reportedly sleeping on the couch, because she was concerned about a prowler.  Echols stopped talking to Vicki after May 28, when the FBI supposedly came out and took photos of his trailer.  She had planned a party for Saturday, May 29, inviting Echols, Misskelley and Robert Burch. When nobody showed up, she phoned Echols around 8 or 9 p.m.  He told her he had something important to do. When she asked if she could come along, he said no.   She tried to talk him again on June 1 around 7:30 p..m.  Echols' sister Michelle told her Damien had gone to bed.  Bray noted: “Vicki says she is scared now.” Hutcheson took a polygraph test June 2.  No deception was indicated when she said that she had not met Echols prior to three weeks before, that she had not told Aaron what to tell police, that she had no foreknowledge of the murders and that no one told her they were involved in the killings.  A decade after the trial, on June 24, 2004,  Hutcheson gave a sworn statement to the Misskelley defense team in which she claimed that Don Bray and Jerry Driver persuaded her that Echols was guilty.   She described her initial meeting with Echols as a fiasco, describing him as a normal teen.  Vicki claimed that the tapes of their conversation were of good quality but worked against the case the police were hoping to build.    She claimed Ridge suggested that, if she could not deliver evidence against Echols, she could be seen as the vital link between the killers and their victims, that she could be implicated in the homicide. “And they also told me it would be a shame if I lost Aaron over this whole thing.”  She claimed Ridge schooled her over 12-and-a-half hours on a made-up story about the esbat trip.  “And then I just started making up stuff as I went because I didn't know what else to do and I did.” After their first meeting, she claimed she talked to Echols just once, when she called him and he said he was under FBI surveillance.  On the day of her court appearance, “I was kind of high. I couldn't even stand up. I even had somebody go get me some more pills.” She  had taken four Prozac, at least 13 Valium and four pain pills prior to testifying.   She had been taking Prozac, Valium and a sleeping medication, Trazodene, during May,  all from the East Arkansas Mental Health Center, as well as pain pills from Melissa Byers, Christopher's mother, and downers from another friend. She was seeing a therapist and a psychiatrist.  She said she was bipolar, had been diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia and had post-traumatic stress syndrome.   At the time of the trial, her part-time job as a bartender at the Ramada Inn allowed her to drink “as much as I wanted.  I should say that when I left I felt pretty good every night.” In 1994, after the trials were over, she told defense investigators that she drank a bottle of Wild Turkey whiskey prior to the trip to the esbat and could not recall the circumstances or who accompanied her, only that she awoke the next morning lying on her front lawn. The drinking bout was spurred by a disagreement with her boyfriend.  She claimed Misskelley stayed overnight at her home, armed with a gun, because Mark Byers “was always bothering us.”  Hutcheson said she became a methamphetamine addict while working at a strip club prior to going to prison around 1995.  In 2004, she said she had recently gotten off meth.  The timeline on harassment by Byers in May 1993 seemed to make little sense as her role in the case wasn't public knowledge then.  In 2004, she said “We kept it quiet until Ron Lax's big mouth and he opened up that whole can of worms you know. And everybody found out they had talked to Aaron and then they found out about me and all that deal.”   She said Byers wanted to talk with Aaron “by himself with him to McDonald's.” She refused. She complained Byers started buying Aaron gifts and brought a Christmas tree to their house. She would see “someone,”  “a really tall, big person” hanging around her back porch. “And I just knew it was Mark. I just had a feeling it was Mark.”  At the time she was telling the story, she and her son were on board with Byers being an “alternative suspect.” She said Misskelley was familiar with Michael through Michael's friendship with Aaron.  Vicki appeared  for a Baldwin Rule 37 hearing  on Aug. 14, 2009, and answered a few questions. Then the court, the prosecutors and her attorneys conferred on whether contradicting her testimony from 1994 would be perjury, finally determining that she could be open to prosecution. There was no offer of immunity. She did not testify. While the Hutchesons provided a crucial link to the solution of the case through their friendship with Misskelley,  Vicki's “investigation” yielded little of worth —- Echols was an acknowledged witch so she would have provided “proof” only of what was already known if she had testified. He made no self-incriminating statements to her.  As for Aaron,  childish fantasies aside,  he provided a seemingly plausible link between the killers and their victims.  Whether there was a pre-arranged meeting between the killers and their victims remains an open question.

“The Trail Went Cold” is taking a break this week after a busy summer of live shows and conventions! In place of a brand new episode, please enjoy this Patreon-exclusive bonus episode from last year covering the case of Kent Heitholt. Robin covered this same case at the Ottawa Podcast Festival in August 2019. November 1, 2001. Columbia, Missouri. Kent Heitholt, a 48-year old sports editor for the Columbia Daily Tribune, is severely beaten and strangled to death in their parking lot. Two-and-a-half years later, investigators are led towards a young suspect named Charles Erickson, who has told people he had vivid dreams of himself and his friend, Ryan Ferguson, murdering Kent after leaving a nearby bar that night. After Charles confesses to the crime, both he and Ryan are charged with Kent's murder and Charles' testimony helps convict Ryan and send him to prison for 40 years. However, after Charles and another key witness recant their testimony, Ryan's conviction is vacated and he is released from prison in 2013. Even though many feel that Charles is also innocent of the crime, he continues to remain incarcerated. If Ryan Ferguson and Charles Erickson did not murder Kent Heitholt, then who did? On this month's bonus Patreon episode, we explore one of the most infamous wrongful conviction cases in recent memory which has yet to find a definitive resolution.  Additional Reading: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_W._Ferguson https://www.law.umich.edu/special/exoneration/Pages/casedetail.aspx?caseid=4304 http://www.freecharleserickson.org/index.html “The Trail Went Cold” is on Patreon! Visit www.patreon.com/thetrailwentcold to become a patron and gain access to our exclusive bonus content. The Trail Went Cold is produced and edited by Magill Foote. All music is composed by Vince Nitro.

In November of 2001, the murder of local sports news writer, Kent Heitholt, rattled the town of Columbia, Missouri. It would be rocked again 3 years later when teenagers Ryan Ferguson and Charles Erickson were arrested for Kent's murder; even though they were both innocent. This just one of many harrowing tales of how easy it is for another person to implicate you for a crime you didn't commit.  To learn more about wrongful convictions go to the Innocence Project (US) to learn more and donate, as well as these other organizations that work their asses off for people who have been wrongfully convicted: Innocence Texas Wrongful Conviction Day Inside Justice  Prison Fellowship  The Innocence Network  Injustice Everywhere Like Kent Heitholt's FB Group : Justice4Kent  Like Charles Erickson's FB Group: FreeCharlesErickson  Follow Charles on Twitter: @FreeCharlesE Check out Chuck's Website Like Ryan Ferguson's FB Group: FreeRyanFerguson  Follow Ryan on Twitter: @lifeafterten Website: thesistersgrimmpodcast.com Twitter: twitter.com/sistersgrimmpod/ Facebook: facebook.com/thesistersgrimmpodcast Instagram: @thesistersgrimmpodcast Follow Morgan & Holly on Instagram @morgandfreeburg and @hollycheeseburger and on Twitter at @morganafreeburg and @hollycheeseburg          

On The Case With Paula Zahn returns for its 16th (!) season, and Dan Patrick Brady returns to the podcast for a reminiscence of...well, how we used to use the show as a sleep aid. Assessing the show's coverage of the 1989 Roundy/Gray case in Idaho Falls, we complain about inaccurate auto re-enactments; marvel at the piddling insurance payouts that murderers are motivated by; and theorize that Paula Zahn has never been in the same room as her interview subjects. (We are NOT crackpots.) Later, we talk about 48 HRS's take on the Ryan Ferguson case, and whether, in light of many recent documentaries on false confessions and vacated convictions, it's more relevant than ever. And could someone figure out who DID kill Kent Heitholt, maybe? All this and stupid spouse tricks on the latest The Blotter Presents. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices