Podcasts about deuterocanon

 How the Bible Was Formed E2 — The Hebrew Bible, or Old Testament, is a collection of 24 scrolls, passed down for generations, that tells the long, complicated story of ancient Israel. But who wrote these scrolls, and how did they come together in their final form? And how do we understand the claim that these books are the very voice of God? In this episode, Jon and Tim explore the formation of the Hebrew Bible and the crew who shaped its stories, poems, and laws into intricately designed literary works.CHAPTERSThe First Writing Mentioned in the Torah (2:56-13:01)Prophets as a Spirit-Led, Multigenerational Literary Community (13:01-36:30)Divine Inspiration in a Diverse, Literary Mosaic (36:30-1:03:20)OFFICIAL EPISODE TRANSCRIPTView this episode's official transcript.REFERENCED RESOURCESThe Lost World Series by John H. Walton and othersThe Lost World of Scripture: Ancient Literary Culture and Biblical Authority by John H. Walton and Brent SandyThe Shape of the Writings (Siphrut: Literature and Theology of the Hebrew Scriptures), edited by Julius Steinberg and Timothy J. StoneYou can view annotations for this episode—plus our entire library of videos, podcasts, articles, and classes—in the BibleProject app, available for Android and iOS.Check out Tim's extensive collection of recommended books here.SHOW MUSIC“StrollingThroughThePark ft. Goodiegumdrops” by Lofi Sunday“Radiance ft. solae” by Lofi SundayBibleProject theme song by TENTSSHOW CREDITSProduction of today's episode is by Lindsey Ponder, producer, and Cooper Peltz, managing producer. Tyler Bailey is our supervising engineer, and he also edited today's episode and provided the sound design and mix. JB Witty does our show notes, and Hannah Woo provides the annotations for our app. Our host and creative director is Jon Collins, and our lead scholar is Tim Mackie. Powered and distributed by Simplecast.

Is it possible for a pope to change or override the declarations of an ecumenical council? We explore the limits of papal authority, how councils and popes interact, and what Catholic tradition teaches about continuity and development in Church doctrine. Join The CA Live Club Newsletter: Click Here Invite our apologists to speak at your parish! Visit Catholicanswersspeakers.com Questions Covered:  03:37 – If the pope wanted to, could he modify the declaration of an ecumenical council? 11:23 – Did any early Jewish denomination accept the Deuterocanon? 15:06 – Why did God make us how he did? Why did he give us eyes, arms, etc.? 19:13 – Does the Church consider mortal sin to be objective or does it depend on the perspective of the individual? 28:46 – Where do popes get their names from? 38:14 – Why did God create hell? 44:33 – Why is it important to learn Church History? 47:13 – Is it sinful to lack a relationship with God and to lack knowledge of God? 50:49 – My friends found out that the priest who baptized them killed someone and they were informed by the diocese that their baptism was invalid. How is this possible?

How the Bible Was Formed E1 — If you've ever compared a Protestant Bible to a Catholic Bible, you may notice some additional books in the Catholic Bible, such as Tobit, Judith, 1 and 2 Maccabees, etc. These books, called the Deuterocanon by Catholics and the Apocrypha by Protestants, are Jewish Literature from the period after the Babylonian exile but before the time of Jesus. The Jewish people were back in the land, being ruled by Syria and other empires descended from Alexander the Great. As they read the Hebrew Bible, they created many new literary works, reflecting on stories in Scripture and what was happening in their own day. So how do we understand the status and value of these books when compared to the Hebrew Bible and New Testament? In this episode, Jon and Tim explore the background, history, and content of this Second-Temple Jewish literature.CHAPTERSMultiple Bibles on the Shelf (00:00-21:10)History of the Protestant Apocrypha (21:10-34:35)How Jesus and the Apostles Engaged With These Books (34:35-43:05)Why We're Talking About the Deuterocanon/Apocrypha (43:05-57:36)OFFICIAL EPISODE TRANSCRIPTView this episode's official transcript.REFERENCED RESOURCESThe Old Testament Pseudepigrapha by James H. CharlesworthOld Testament Pseudepigrapha: More Noncanonical Scriptures, edited by Richard Bauckham, James Davila, Alex PanayotovYou can view annotations for this episode—plus our entire library of videos, podcasts, articles, and classes—in the BibleProject app, available for Android and iOS.Check out Tim's extensive collection of recommended books here.SHOW MUSIC“Pure Joy ft. John Lee” by Lofi Sunday“Chillbop ft. Me & The Boys” by Lofi Sunday“Answered Prayers ft. PAINT WITH SOUND” by Lofi SundayBibleProject theme song by TENTSSHOW CREDITSProduction of today's episode is by Lindsey Ponder, producer, and Cooper Peltz, managing producer. Tyler Bailey is our supervising engineer, who edited today's episode and also provided the sound design and mix. JB Witty does our show notes, and Hannah Woo provides the annotations for our app. Our host and creative director is Jon Collins, and our lead scholar is Tim Mackie. Powered and distributed by Simplecast.

Questions Covered: 01:48 – What do you mean that it is ok to believe Adam and Eve are symbolic? 06:20 – What are the restrictions on Fridays? Does that include all animal products or just animal flesh? 10:22 – Why did God mandate Hosea to have relations with the prostitutes? 15:08 – Can we truly know if we are saved? 19:10 – I found a ring with the initials SMOTJ. I discovered it was the Sovereign Military Order of the Temple of Jerusalem. What is it and is it Catholic? 22:30 – How do I respond to the claim that there is no evidence that the Deuterocanon was not included in the original canon of the Old Testament? 29:04 – Once you discover the talents that God has given you, how do you use them to the best of your abilities? 30:52 – Is polygamy acceptable in an apocalyptic situation? 37:12 – Why don't Catholics baptize by immersion and in the name of Jesus? 43:40 – Do you have any speculation as to why the book Esther wasn’t found in the dead sea scrolls? 46:45 – When did the bread that Jesus had at the last supper turn into his body and blood? 50:17 – What are your thoughts on Dr Scott Hahn's theory and book on the Fourth Cup? 52:36 – Is the Church's definition of death, the separation of body and soul? Would Elijah resurrect a child in 1 Kings 17:17-24 back up this definition? …

Did the Jewish people and early Christians accept the Deuterocanon? Gary Michuta joins us.

Did the Jewish people and early Christians accept the Deuterocanon? Gary Michuta joins us.

Questions Covered: 03:49 – Can a person act out of anger, and it still be considered a mortal sin? 07:07 – Did Mary have birth pains? 18:07 – Is it necessary for us to do the sign of the cross before and after every prayer? 20:18 – Is there a version of the divine liturgy in the eastern rites that has been scrutinized like the Latin mass? Has the Easter rite had an experience like the current division between the Novus Ordo and Latin mass? 24:50 – Why doesn’t God just delete hell? 34:07 – Do we know Luther’s motivation for declaring the Deuterocanon non-canon? Why are there additional books that are not in Catholic bibles? 44:09 – Why choose to believe in an invisible reality instead of everything I've known in my life? 51:53 – Is life on earth the only life in the physical universe? …

Questions Covered: 04:20 – Did the Church ever teach that purgatory entailed retributive punishment? 13:17 – If the Apocrypha is scripture, why is it called the Deuterocanon? 19:45 – How concerned should I be for the salvation of our protestant brothers and sisters who don't baptize their kids? 25:02 – My granddaughter says she’s engaged to a woman. How should I approach this? 39:45 – Did Mary get additional confirmation that Jesus was God when she visited Elizabeth? 46:33 – If the Last Supper was the Passover meal, where does Jesus' saying to consume his blood come in? 50:13 – How close is the idea of Prima Scriptura to Church teaching? …

Questions Covered: 02:50 – A person wants to be baptized but has a family member who insists they were baptized as children, together (at the same time as they are twins). They do not have anyone living who would know and cannot locate records in places they guess it may have occurred. Do they take the steps toward baptism or assume they are? 04:50 – Is the Protestant Canon of Scripture materially sufficient for salvation? If yes, is the Deuterocanon unnecessary? If not, is there information in the Deuterocanon that is needed for salvation? 11:16 – Jimmy I think the biggest crisis in the Church today is the lack of belief in the Eucharist. I’d like to see you speak on the prefigurement of the Eucharist in the Old Testament and the fulfillment in the new. Also, I’d like to see a discussion on the real existence of hell and what many of the saints have said about it plus the testimonies of modern-day exorcists. Thanks. 18:38 – Why does St. Paul refer to levels of Heaven and what might that mean for Christians? Are the levels multiple steps to God? 22:58 – In Matthew 4 and Luke 4:8, why did Jesus tell Peter to “Get behind me Satan”? Why did he call him Satan? Or did he? Thanks, Jimmy! 28:35 – In your podcast episode where you went through the different possibilities of aliens, I didn't hear you mention the possibility of an alien race that is ahead of humanity in their salvation journey. What are your thoughts on an alien race that is on their New Earth equivalent? I would assume that alien abduction would be immoral and therefore such a race wouldn't abduct anyone. Would such a race be able to or even want to interact with humans? 33:18 – It would seem that Judas was the first to receive and leave communion in a state of mortal sin at the Last Supper. What might be the implications of Jesus knowing ahead of time that Judas would receive the morsel with murder in his heart? 42:00 – Why can't I baptize people with Beer since it's mostly water? Also, can I baptize with tears? 45:20 – My 15-year-old would like to know why God would choose a 13-year-old girl to be the mother of Jesus instead of a fully grown woman. 51:20 – Is it okay to lie in certain situations like if you were hiding Jews, in Germany during World War II? 53:23 – If I suffer Martyrdom with unconfessed sins, even a Mortal one, do I really go straight to heaven or will I still need to spend time in Purgatory? …

Roman Catholics include 7 additional books in their Bibles that Protestants reject as Scripture. Protestants call these books the "Apocrypha" (meaning "hidden") while Roman Catholics call them the "Deuterocanon" (meaning "second canon"). Should they be included in our Bibles or not? David and Nathan discuss several topics in part 2 including:• The Church Fathers• Jerome and the Vulgate• The Reformation• The Council of Trent• Concluding Thoughts

Roman Catholics include 7 additional books in their Bibles that Protestants reject as Scripture. Protestants call these books the "Apocrypha" (meaning "hidden") while Roman Catholics call them the "Deuterocanon" (meaning "second canon"). Should they be included in our Bibles or not? David and Nathan discuss several topics in part 1 including:• Why it matters• The time the apocrypha was written and cessation of the prophets• The Septuagint• Jesus and the apostles' view of these booksPart 2 will include discussion on:• The Church Fathers• Jerome and the Vulgate• The Reformation• The Council of Trent• Concluding Thoughts

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The Apostle Jude in the New Testament cites the Book of Enoch and the Assumption of Moses as "prophecy" and sacred history respectively. The author of Hebrews references the Ascension of Isaiah in chapter eleven's "hall of heroes." So... why aren't these 3 apocryphal works in the canon of Protestants or Catholics? How do we exclude them without being inconsistent? What was the way the early Christians settled this thorny question? What does it tell us about the true way to identify the canon of Scripture for Christians?Hooray! We've reached the END of our Deuterocanon Series. As part of our 2nd Bonus Episode we've decided to dive into why the 3 Apocryphal Books of The Book of Enoch, Assumption of Moses, and the Ascension of Isaiah are NOT in the canon even though they are cited in the New Testament by the inspired authors of Scripture.  The answer puts a nice bow on the series as a whole as we wrap up this "Summer Topic Special" on the Podcast. Get 15% Off TAN Books using code "TRUTH" at checkout: https://tanbooks.com/?rfsn=7031065.cf6efa1 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkz9M06qR_vjVS8k9oEkiSQInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/whatistruthpod/

Did the Jews believe that ALL prophecy, inspiration, and divine Scripture COMPLETELY CEASED to be produced for 500 years before Christ? Today, Jack and Nico DEBUNK a common "slam-dunk" argument against the idea that any Jews couldn't have accepted the 7 Deutercanonical books as inspired, because it was allegedly "written too late" during a time when Jews believed that all inspired Scripture had long since ceased to be written. This episode is a BONUS topic related to PART 1's discussion of Jewish History and Belief on this topic. We dive into more rabbinic sources that Protestant apologists use to establish the CESSATION OF PROPHECY theory. Get 15% Off TAN Books using code "TRUTH" at checkout: https://tanbooks.com/?rfsn=7031065.cf6efa1 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkz9M06qR_vjVS8k9oEkiSQInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/whatistruthpod/

Are there any places in the NT where a deuterocanonical book is cited, alluded to, or borrowed from?  What does it mean if a sacred writer uses or builds his theology off a deuterocanonical book? How do you identify that?  What do we make of the apocryphal texts that some passages of NT Scripture refer to that Catholics and Protestants agree are NOT in Scripture? Is being mentioned in the NT enough to prove inspiration? In this solo episode with Nico, you will get a break down of how the New Testament authors use and give evidence for the inspiration of the Deuterocanon. This is a CRUCIAL episode for any Bible-Alone Christians who want some God-breathed confirmations by trusted, already INSPIRED authors, who endorse many of the deuterocanonical books we've been discussing. If they trusted the deuterocanon's theology, why wouldn't you?Sit down with What Is Truth for a bible study you won't soon forget. Follow along in your Bible as you listen!  Get 15% Off TAN Books using code "TRUTH" at checkout: https://tanbooks.com/?rfsn=7031065.cf6efa1 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkz9M06qR_vjVS8k9oEkiSQInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/whatistruthpod/

The early Christians overwhelmingly SUPPORTED the DIVINE INSPIRATION of the Deuterocanon! So why did they LEAVE OUT those books from their "canon lists?" Why did so many of these ancient theologians put these books in special categories like "secondary rank," "read in the churches," or "ecclesiastical books"? What did these categories mean? How was their understanding of "canon" different from ours today? Does this "cancel" out their own testimonies in favor of divine inspiration from their other writings?In this episode (a continuation of last week's church history conversation), Jack and Nico break down the top 10 *infamous* "patristic canon lists" that Protestant apologists use to "prove" that early Christians denied an inspiration of the Deuterocanon. What is Truth is the only place you'll get the in-depth treatment of this subject!Special Credit to Gary Michuta's invaluable books Why Catholic Bibles are Bigger & The Case for the Deuterocanon, particularly the latter's appendix: "The Problem with Canon Lists." These were our primary sources in researching this episode, so if you liked the information presented here, go buy his books and show him some love!Get 15% Off TAN Books using code "TRUTH" at checkout: https://tanbooks.com/?rfsn=7031065.cf6efa1 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkz9M06qR_vjVS8k9oEkiSQInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/whatistruthpod/

Did the early Christians and Church Fathers believe the 7 Books of the Deuterocanon were inspired scripture? Did they confirm doctrine with these books?  How can we settle this?You might have guessed it from the title, but this is a CHURCH HISTORY episode of What is Truth. Today on the Pod, Jack and Nico break down the primary sources from the early church that are points of contention in settling the question "what did the early church consensus believe about the Deuterocanon?" SPOILER ALERT: It's decidedly, overwhelmingly pro-Deuterocanon.Hope you came ready to take some notes!Get 15% Off TAN Books using code "TRUTH" at checkout: https://tanbooks.com/?rfsn=7031065.cf6efa1 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkz9M06qR_vjVS8k9oEkiSQInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/whatistruthpod/

Did Jews always agree on what was inspired Scripture? Was that question settled by the time of Jesus? What Scriptural evidence gives us a clue to competing Jewish views? When and why did the Jewish canon of Scripture "close?" Who "closed it?"  Does it matter for Christians today? Today on the Pod, the What is Truth team breaks down the historical journey of how Jews got the the canon they use today, which Protestants today cite to confirm their shorter canon of the Old Testament. It's a long, winding road that features pharisee conspiracies, a false Messiah, a dark prophecy of Christ come true, and ends in a rabbinical decision after the Resurrection that henceforth set Catholics and Jews on different paths for their respective canons. This is the history lesson your pastor never told you!Get 15% Off TAN Books using code "TRUTH" at checkout: https://tanbooks.com/?rfsn=7031065.cf6efa1 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkz9M06qR_vjVS8k9oEkiSQInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/whatistruthpod/

Why do Catholics and Protestants have different numbers of Old Testament books? What are these extra seven books? What are they about? Are they inspired Scripture? How do we know? In this 20 minute introduction, Nico Silva drops down definitions and context needed to understand What Is Truth Pod's upcoming 3-Part Deuterocanon Series in the month of July. Jack and Nico spent this past year devouring biblical scholar Gary Machuta's two exhaustive and informative books "Why Catholic Bibles are Bigger" and "The Case for the Deuterocanon" to bring to the Pod a digested, long-form conversation explaining the three major aspects of this complicated Protestant-Catholic Debate. In this series we will focus on answering three major questions: 1.) Did the Jews leave Christianity a closed, complete canon of 24 books or something more complicated? 2.) Did the Early Church fathers always accept these 7 books as scripture? 3.) Does the New Testament point towards the inspiration of the deuterocanonical books?   Get excited to unpack this with us every Tuesday in July here on What is Truth.Get 15% Off TAN Books using code "TRUTH" at checkout: https://tanbooks.com/?rfsn=7031065.cf6efa1 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkz9M06qR_vjVS8k9oEkiSQInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/whatistruthpod/

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For Protestants of any background exploring Catholicism, the idea of a Bible with a bigger table of contents than they're used to can be a bewildering proposition. So why do Catholics have a different list of Old Testament books than Protestants do? And what are some good starting points for a Protestant who wants to get to know these books? Matt Swaim welcomes Gary Michuta, author of "Why Catholic Bibles are Bigger" and "The Case for the Deuterocanon" to unpack the differences between Protestant and Catholic Bibles, and the history behind how those differences came about. Gary Michuta's website: https://www.handsonapologetics.com Gary's YouTube channel, "Apocrypha Apocalypse": https://www.youtube.com/c/apocryphaapocalypse More episodes: https://www.chnetwork.org/presents Our Online Community: https://community.chnetwork.org Support our work: https://www.chnetwork.org/donate

The Hebrew Bible is not the same thing as the Imperial Christian Old Testament (though it's very similar to the protestant version), but there are many different ways people draw value from these books.The Torah is not the same thing as the Old Testament: it is the 5 books classically attributed to Moses. For some who adhere to an Abrahamic faith, the Torah is the only scripture; for others, the testimonies of prophets and historians are also invaluable.The Hebrew Bible is often called the Tanakh, which isn't a word, but an acronym  for Torah-Neviim-Ketuvim (Law, Prophets, and all the other writings). Calling it a bible is misleading; it's a library--a very small library of the greatest literature that defined a nation--a small Mediterranean nation that eventually influenced the entire world. To say that "the Bible" is the infallible word of God is to deny the obvious inconsistencies and material contradictions. To say that it is the complete word of God is to deny the obvious appeals to external authoritative texts. To say that it is the literal word of God is to deny the obvious editorial history and the skill of the genuine authors. We outline the various major textual traditions (the Greek Septuagint and the Hebrew Masoretic text), as well as the Samaritan Pentateuch, the Apocrypha (or Deuterocanon), and several pseudepigraphal writings. We look at rejected books that might hope to belong, and we cite books that were abridged into the biblical histories and have since been lost.All this and more...To witness Katie's first Bible Study (a mini-series), support us on PatreonYou can find our merch on SpreadshirtJoin the Community on DiscordLearn more great religion facts on Facebook and Instagram

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Questions Covered: 03:40 – Would you like to continue our Socratic dialogue on the argument from cosmology? 18:03 – Why do we have and need godparents for sacraments? 20:58 – Why do some translations have “blessed are you among women” in the story of the Annunciation but not in others? 24:06 – Can you compare the Catholic and Protestant understanding of 1 Corinth. 11? Was there both a feast and a liturgy? 32:00 – How do we talk to Protestants about the Deuterocanon? 41:34 – Why doesn’t the Church include the Didache and Clement’s letter to the Corinthians into the canon of scripture? 44:43 – What is sanctifying Grace? How do we get it? Did Jesus need it and how did He get it? 48:35 – Why did the translation change from “forgive us our debts” to “forgive us our trespasses?” 51:39 – Is it proper to take pictures of the Eucharist in the monstrance? …

What do Catholics believe about Scripture? Does the Catholic Church teach that the Bible is inerrant? What does it mean that the Bible is inspired? If Councils and Popes can also exercise infallibility, is there still room in Catholicism for Scripture to have a privileged role? How can we classify the different types of Bible difficulties and respond appropriately? Is the book of Tobit (and the rest of the Deuterocanon) afflicted with insuperable errors? Jimmy Akin joins us to discuss these questions and more. The Classical Theism Podcast aims to defend Catholic Christian ideas in conversation. With the help of various guests, I defend three pillars of the Catholic Christian worldview: (1) the God of classical theism exists, (2) Jesus is our Messiah and Lord, and (3) He founded the Catholic Church. We place a strong emphasis on the first pillar, defending classical theism, drawing upon the work of Thomistic philosopher Dr. Edward Feser and many others. John DeRosa www.classicaltheism.com/support   Check out my book One Less God Than You: How to Answer the Slogans, Cliches, and Fallacies that Atheists Use to Challenge Your Faith >> www.classicaltheism.com/newbook

We found among the Dead Sea Scrolls; an interesting find called the Apocrypha meaning the hidden books (Greek), some of the books have been in existence as long as 500 BC. These books in recent reference were omitted from the Bible which we as believers do not recognize—Book of Jubilees, Enoch, Baruk, and Ezra sometimes referred to as the Deuterocanon or second books. Join Pastor Gary and Elder JC Montgomery as they unravel their importance to the Bible and our need to study it in conjunction with it. They also list all the books in the Apocrypha. Don't forget to listen to our podcasts—Apple, Google, Soundcloud, Spotify, Stitcher, TuneIn, and now iHeart. Contact us at (850) 219-0091 or stonebhr@gmail.com.

Wrestling With the Saints In a discussion about praying to the dead, a Roman Catholic FB friend was critical of a Protestant FB friend. They went back and forth while I scooped popcorn into my mouth and enjoyed the show. Full contact theology is way more entertaining than MMA fights that inevitably become grappling on the floor, and you don't have to pay for cable. Real theological debate is more lively, like the old Big Time Wrestling that my cousins and I used to watch on Saturday mornings. The Roman Catholic guy went for the takedown: The Catholic [sic] Church endorses both prayer for the dead to get into heaven and to the righteous dead to make our case before God. I know this is anathema to you because it is not in your Bible. It used to be, but Luther kicked Maccabees out of the Protestant Bible and called it a nasty name --- Apocrypha--- thing about which there is doubt. It was part of scripture at the Time of Jesus. It appears to me that Luther did that because he disagreed with its teaching. Can a murderer get rid of the 7th commandment? No. So, I have Maccabees. You have Luther kicking it out. Not sure what else you have saying Maccabees is bad. I am confident we will find out who is right on the last day. At this point, I threw down my tub of popcorn with yellow grease, grabbed a folding chair, and jumped into the ring. For a moment I was back to my childhood with my aunts and cousins in a smoke-filled Akron Armory, watching men in tights pretend to fight each other to the roar of the drunken crowd. But I didn't fight dirty, unless telling the truth is considered out of bounds. I replied: 2 Maccabees is quoted in our Confessions three times, and is explicitly called "Scripture." Our confessions also quote the Book of Tobit (four times). The Apocrypha was published in all Lutheran Bibles until they began to speak English and bought Bibles from the Protestants. Russian Lutheran Bibles also include these books, and the Russian Lutherans refer to them as deuterocanonical. Moreover, the passage you are referring to (2 Macc 15:14) says that the dead pray - not that we pray to them. We Lutherans certainly confess that the dead pray for us (Apology 21:9). Our issue is that there is nothing in Scripture indicating that we are to pray to them or that they can even hear our prayers. The early church - and indeed the Roman Church until Trent - made a distinction between the Greek Old Testament books (which we call the Apocrypha, and which you call Deuterocanon) and the Hebrew - just as the early church (as do Lutherans) distinguish between the New Testament books known as the Antilegomena and the Homolegoumena. The early church did not draw doctrine solely from the witness of the Antilegomena or the Greek OT books (Apocrypha/Deuterocanon), whether from the Old or New Testaments, but required additional witness. It was only at the Council of Trent - which the papal church refused to call until after Luther's death - that the deuterocanonical books were received as equal witnesses to the rest of Scripture. And so it is the Lutherans whose treatment of Scripture aligns with the fathers, and it is Rome who changed and innovated. I get that we are in disagreement, but as Christians we are called to be honest in stating what our opponents believe. The great St. Thomas Aquinas is a stellar example of this kind of precision in argumentation. And then, after making an appeal to fight fair, I cracked him over the head with my chair, smashed his face into the turnbuckle, and held him down for the pin - but of course, the referee was distracted, and I only got a two-count. Some guy called “The Inquisitor” climbed into the ring, snuck up on me, and knocked me out cold. That's the last I remember. But my aunts and cousins thought it was a good show.

One of the objections that our Protestant friends give to the Deuterocanon, the 7 books that Catholic Bibles have and Protestants don't, is the cessation of prophecy. This is also known as the 400 years of silence between the time of Malachi and the New Testament. Gary walks us through to show the holes in this objection, and how the Deuterocanonical books show prophecy. He also discusses Jewish sources who also claim this. For more information about Gary visit his website www.handsonapologetics.com and listen to his daily Hands on Apologetics radio program Monday-Friday on Virgin Most Powerful Radio at 1pm EST.

One of the objections that our Protestant friends give to the Deuterocanon, the 7 books that Catholic Bibles have and Protestants don't, is the cessation of prophecy. This is also known as the 400 years of silence between the time of Malachi and the New Testament. Gary walks us through to show the holes in this objection, and how the Deuterocanonical books show prophecy. He also discusses Jewish sources who also claim this. For more information about Gary visit his website www.handsonapologetics.com and listen to his daily Hands on Apologetics radio program Monday-Friday on Virgin Most Powerful Radio at 1pm EST.

Is there prophecy is the Deuterocanon? These are the books that Protestants call Apocrypha. Gary Michuta joins me to go over some of the prophecies that appear to help us understand God in a deeper way. The ones mentioned were cross referenced in early Protestant Bibles.Gary is an expert on the subject and is an author of multiple books including Why Catholic Bibles Are Bigger, and The Case For The Deuterocanon. Check out Gary's awesome YouTube channel titled Apocrypha Apocalypse and visit his website at www.handsonapologetics.com.

Ben (our resident Catholic) discusses the seven books of the Deuterocanon (or Apocrypha), what they are, and why they are included in the Catholic Old Testament canon. N.B. While Ratio Christi at Texas A&M does not officially take a position on the canonical status of these books and many Protestants reject them, they nevertheless are […]

Ben (our resident Catholic) discusses the seven books of the Deuterocanon (or Apocrypha), what they are, and why they are included in the Catholic Old Testament canon. N.B. While Ratio Christi at Texas A&M does not officially take a position on the canonical status of these books and many Protestants reject them, they nevertheless are […]

 Today's episode I am honored to have to have Catholic speaker and apologist Gary Michuta on the program. He is the host of Hands on Apologetics which airs daily at 1:00pm EST on Virgin Most Powerful Radio. He is also the author of several books including "Why Catholic Bibles Are Bigger" and "The Case For The Deuterocanon". He also has a YouTube channel called "Apocrypha Apocalypse" where goes into various issues on the Deuterocanon.In today's episode we discuss what the Deuterocanon is and he answers some common objections about their canonicity. It is a very informative interview. We need to defend scripture and Gary gives us great reasons why these books belong and how the Catholic church has always included them.Subscribe to Gary's Youtube channel at https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCO-lc_oipf900w6792AiywA Also be sure to check out his radio program and website at handsonapologetics.com

Today's episode I am honored to have to have Catholic speaker and apologist Gary Michuta on the program. He is the host of Hands on Apologetics which airs daily at 1:00pm EST on Virgin Most Powerful Radio. He is also the author of several books including "Why Catholic Bibles Are Bigger" and "The Case For The Deuterocanon". He also has a YouTube channel called "Apocrypha Apocalypse" where goes into various issues on the Deuterocanon. In today's episode we discuss what the Deuterocanon is and he answers some common objections about their canonicity. It is a very informative interview. We need to defend scripture and Gary gives us great reasons why these books belong and how the Catholic church has always included them.Subscribe to Gary's Youtube channel at https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCO-lc_oipf900w6792AiywA Also be sure to check out his radio program and website at www.handsonapologetics.com

In this episode, my friend Tom Schniers and I give Catholic answers to some of your questions! We discuss the reason Protestant Bibles are smaller, the requirements for a Catholic wedding, and whether or not missing Mass is a mortal sin. Please let me know what you think in the comments! If you'd like for me to answer your question on an episode of the podcast, email me at coldbrews.catholictruths@gmail.com. -------------------------------- GIVING -------------------------------- Patreon (monthly giving): https://www.patreon.com/seanhussey On my website: https://seanhussey.org/donate -------------------------------- BOOKING/CONTACT -------------------------------- Book me to speak at your next event: https://seanhussey.org/booksean -------------------------------- LINKS -------------------------------- TRY HALLOW - 30 DAYS FREE: http://www.hallow.com/seanhussey Website: https://seanhussey.org Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seanhussey_3/ My Testimony:- https://youtu.be/DxywfVSlq2Y Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/sk/podcast/cold-brews-catholic-truths/id1479888908?l=sk -------------------------------- THEME SONG -------------------------------- Connor graciously gave permission to use this song file as the theme song for my podcast. Connor is a devout disciple of Jesus and an excellent musician. Please go check out his music! Song: Make a Way Artist: Connor Flanagan Album: Skyscrapers LINK: https://open.spotify.com/track/1WJr8eMTAxvRcRjqeMGE3I?si=eDREzKkxRxCQ_Z7i55hPkA~

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Second up in this 8-part series, Mike takes a closer look at some basic Catholic biblical interpretive principles and why they're so important. What is the Bible? What ISN'T it? How can we read it correctly? Do we only need the Bible, or is tradition important to consider? This and more Links/Resources: Dr. John Bergsma and Dr. Brant Pitre have recently released “A Catholic Introduction to the Bible: The Old Testament”, the first of a monumental 2-part series and a must have for your shelf! click here Gary Michuta continues to amass a great amount of work on the so-called “Deuterocanon”, the seven biblical books missing from most non-Catholic Bibles. Here's his newest text, “Case for the Deuterocanon”: click here Jeff Cavins' team over at Ascension Press has tons of incredible resources under the umbrella of the “Great Adventure” Bible and related study materials: click here Trent Horn's “Hard Sayings” takes a deep dive into some of the more challenging/disturbing passages of Scripture and he provides a wealth of interpretive keys: click here Catholic Church official documents on Scripture (MUST reads!) Providentissimus Deus (“On the Study of Holy Scripture”, Pope Leo XIII, 1893): click here Divino Afflante Spiritu (“On Promoting Biblical Studies”, Pope Pius XII, 1943): click here Dei Verbum (Dogmatic Constitution on Divine Revelation, Vatican II, 1965): click here For good measure, EVERYTHING CARDINAL JOSEPH RATZINGER (AKA POPE BENEDICT XVI) EVER WROTE!

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Compare a Catholic and a Protestant Bible and you'll notice that one is bigger than the other - the Catholic Bible includes seven more books from the Old Testament, called the Deuterocanon, than the other. Why were these books stripped from the non-Catholic Bibles? Why should they be there? What pieces of Catholic doctrine are missing when these books are removed? In this episode of The Catholic Mama podcast, Christine talks with Catholic apologist, author, and radio host Gary Michuta to answer these questions. (June 7, 2020)

Ever wonder why Catholic Bibles are bigger than Protestant Bibles? In this new episode of Pints with Aquinas, I interview a genuine expert on the history of the canon of Scripture, Gary Michuta. We talk about issues like: • What is the “Deuterocanon” and why do Protestants call it “apocrypha” • How did Martin Luther justify removing seven books from the Old Testament • Why St. Jerome rejected the Deuterocanon (and why you shouldn’t) • What impact did the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls have on this question of the canon of Scripture? • Are there any New Testament “proofs” for the Deuterocanon  SPONSORS  Hallow: https://hallow.onelink.me/Q25Y/80833e8 Covenant Eyes: https://www.covenanteyes.com/ (use promo code: mattfradd) LINKS Website: https://pintswithaquinas.com/ Merch: https://teespring.com/stores/matt-fradd FREE 21 Day Detox From Porn Course: https://www.strive21.com/ SOCIAL Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/mattfradd Twitter: https://twitter.com/mattfradd Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mattfradd MY BOOKS Does God Exist: https://www.amazon.com/Does-God-Exist-Socratic-Dialogue-ebook/dp/B081ZGYJW3/ref=sr_1_9?dchild=1&keywords=fradd&qid=1586377974&sr=8-9 Marian Consecration With Aquinas: https://www.amazon.com/Marian-Consecration-Aquinas-Growing-Closer-ebook/dp/B083XRQMTF/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=fradd&qid=1586379026&sr=8-4 The Porn Myth: https://www.ignatius.com/The-Porn-Myth-P1985.aspx  CONTACT Book me to speak: https://www.mattfradd.com/speakerrequestform Website - mattfradd.com  Facebook - facebook.com/mattfradd/  Twitter - twitter.com/mattfradd 

In this episode of The Cordial Catholic, I'm joined by Catholic apologist and author Gary Michuta to talk about how the Bible was put together and why modern Catholic Bibles are bigger than their Protestant counterparts? Did Catholics add books to the Bible? Did Protestants take books out? What exactly is the Apocrypha? How do we know which books belong in the first place and, really, what evidence is there that the books accepted by Catholics were the right ones? Gary and I did very deep into the Bible and, thanks to Gary, come away with some incredible insights. Gary is simple the foremost expert on the Canon of the Bible and has an absolute ton of information and insights to share in this jam-packed interview. For more from Gary visit his website and check out his books including, Why Catholic Bibles Are Bigger, on Amazon.To see my appearance on Gary's radio show, Hands On Apologetics, check it out on YouTube. And subscribe to his great show on any podcast platform.For more, visit The Cordial Catholic. Send your feedback to cordialcatholic@gmail.com. For more information about sponsoring the show, keeping this podcast going, and helping me to continue to deliver quality content please visit the Patreon page.  Even $1 or $2 a month can go a long way to helping make this podcast sustainable and will give you access to a special Patron-Only podcast featuring behind-the-scenes content and early access to upcoming material. If you can give $5/mo or more you'll also be entered into monthly draws for fantastic books hand-picked by me.If you'd like to give a one-time donation to The Cordial Catholic, you can visit the PayPal page.Thank you to those already supporting the show!Newsletter pre-roll. Producers Post-Roll: Stephen, Eli, Tom, Kelvin, Susan, and Eyram.Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/cordialcatholic)

Compare a Catholic and a Protestant Bible and you'll notice that one is bigger than the other - the Catholic Bible includes seven more books from the Old Testament, called the Deuterocanon, than the other. Why were these books stripped from the non-Catholic Bibles? Why should they be there? What pieces of Catholic doctrine are missing when these books are removed? In this episode of The Catholic Mama podcast, Christine talks with Catholic apologist, author, and radio host Gary Michuta to answer these questions. Have a question or topic for Christine and/or her husband Pat? Submit it at: https://forms.gle/s2xGLPVje8287jcp9 Like what you hear? Don't forget to subscribe and leave a nice review so you don't miss an episode, as well as help others discover The Catholic Mama. ---- Need help answering some basic questions about Christianity and Catholicism? Then be sure and grab The Catholic Mama's How to Talk to Your Kids about God, available for FREE at https://mailchi.mp/d54ae4162916/thecatholicmama.

In this episode Gary Michuta and I discuss the Deuterocanon.  Those are the books that appear in Catholic Bibles, but are missing from Protestant ones.  Gary gives some insight to why they deserve to be in the canon, when they were first disputed, and a couple tips we can all use to show that they are inspired.  Check out Gary's daily radio program titled Hands On Apologetics on Virgin Most Powerful radio.  His website handsonapologetics.com is full of great material to help defend your faith, and check out his books on garymichuta.com

I return to the lost and forgotten book of Sirach, the phenomenal book of the Deuterocanon. It shows us many facts regarding the continuity of the two testaments: These lost texts are full of prophetic announcements and superb practical wisdom. We will pick up where our last private chat ended around chapter 35 or so. For the full talk subscribe to JaysAnalysis at the Paypal or credit card links. Live at 6PM EST

Get out of the cistern and cut your nails, Theophiloi, because it's time for a brand new episode! Join us as we take on the extremely apocryphal book of Ahikar, Tobit's maybe nephew. This leads us to the biggest fight we've ever had on the show, which is about whether the Pharaoh's riddle contest is actually a riddle contest or not (it's not, but the eagle boys are pretty dope). Topics of discussion: A debate over the premise of the show that sends Chris's voice spiraling up about six octaves, Tu B'av, the Jewish calendar, a bit of self-promotion unrelated to Bible, Aesop who isn't real either, Deuterocanon and pseudepigrapha, the first of what we assume will be many mentions of Grand Admiral Thrawn, a number that constitutes "a lot of wives," all the numbers in the Bible, a pretty vindictive answer to a prayer, Ahikar's dubious teaching methods, drubbing, some low-hanging fruit, God vs. April, a truly bonkers level of animal cruelty, and Chris getting lightheaded from laughing at his own joke. It's a good one. If you enjoy the show, you can support us at: ko-fi.com/apocrypals

On December 6, 2017 and the Feast of Saint Nicholas, Dcn Mike Beauvais, in the first part of the show, was joined by Robert Rodgers of Mighty in the Land Ministries, who shared a captivating testimony of when his wife and four children were taken from him fourteen years ago. Robert Rodgers was in Waco this week to speak at an Advent reflection service at St. Jerome Catholic Church. In the second part of the show, Gary Michuta, author of Why Catholic Bibles are Bigger and The Case for the Deuterocanon, discussed the history of the Bible with Dcn Mike, specifically the controversies surrounding the Deuterocanon, which is a certain collection of books that have overtime been taken out of Protestant Bibles. The overarching themes of this conversation were the steadfast nature of the Catholic Church's Sacred Tradition, the inconsistencies of Martin Luther and other Protestants' positions regarding the books of the Bible, and the continuity between the Old Testament and New Testament that is achieved through the inclusion of the Deuterocanon. Enjoy the show, like RED-C Catholic Radio on Facebook, and follow us on Twitter at @REDCRadio. And remember, when choosing between the values of heaven and the values of earth, always round up!

On March 7, 2017, host Deacon Mike Beauvais interviewed author Gary Michuta about his book, The Case for the Deuterocanon. Enjoy the show, like RED-C Catholic Radio on Facebook, and follow us on Twitter at @REDCRadio. And remember, when choosing between the values of heaven and the values of earth, always round up!

Book of Enoch by RH Charles (Audio).  The Book of Enoch written prior to 300 BC, it is an ancient Jewish religious work, ascribed by tradition to Enoch, the great-grandfather of Noah, although modern scholars estimate the older sections (mainly in the Book of the Watchers) to date from about 300 BC, and the latest part (Book of Parables) probably to the first century BC Background on the Book of Enoch (wikipedia extract). Judaism: Although evidently widely knownduring the development of the Hebrew Bible canon,1 Enoch was excluded from both the formal canon of the Tanakh andthe typical canon of the Septuagint and therefore, also from the writings knowntoday as the Deuterocanon.One possible reasonfor Jewish rejection of the book might be the textual nature of several earlysections of the book that make use of material from the Torah; for example,1 En 1 is a midrash of Deuteronomy 33.The content, particularly detailed descriptions of fallen angels,would also be a reason for rejection from the Hebrew canon at thisperiod – as illustrated by the comments of Trypho the Jew when debatingwith Justin Martyr on this subject. Trypho:"The utterances of God are holy, but your expositions are merecontrivances, as is plain from what has been explained by you; nay, evenblasphemies, for you assert that angels sinned and revolted from God."(Dialogue 79)   Christianity: By the 4th century, the Book of Enochwas mostly excluded from Christian canons, and it is now regarded as scripture byonly the Ethiopian Orthodox Church and the Eritrean Orthodox Church.   References in the New Testament: Enoch is referred to as a historicalperson and prophet, and quoted, in Jude 1:14–15: And Enoch also, theseventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh withten thousands of his saints, To execute judgment upon all, and to convict all thatare ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodlycommitted, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spokenagainst him. Compare this with Enoch 1:9,translated from the Ethiopic (found also in Qumran scroll 4Q204=4QEnochc ar, col I16–18). And behold! Hecometh with ten thousands of His Saints To execute judgment upon all, And todestroy all the ungodly: And to convict all flesh Of all the works of theirungodliness which they have ungodly committed, And of all the hard things whichungodly sinners have spoken against Him. Compare this also with what may bethe original source of 1 En 1:9 in Deuteronomy 33:2: The Lord came fromSinai and dawned from Seir upon us; he shone forth from Mount Paran; he camefrom the ten thousands of Saints, with flaming fire at his right hand. Under the heading of canonicity, itis not enough to merely demonstrate that something is quoted. Instead, it isnecessary to demonstrate the nature of the quotation. In the case of theJude 14 quotation of 1 Enoch 1:9, it would be difficult to argue that Judedoes not quote Enoch as an historical prophet since he cites Enoch by name.However, there remains a question as to whether the author of Jude attributedthe quotation believing the source to be the historical Enoch before the floodor a midrash ofDeut 33:2–3. The Greek text might seem unusual in stating that "Enochthe Seventh from Adam" prophesied "to" (dative case)not "of" (genitive case) the men, however, this might indicate theGreek meaning “against them” - the dative τούτοις as a dativus incommodi(dative of disadvantage). Peter H. Davids points to Dead SeaScrolls evidence but leaves it open as to whether Jude viewed 1 Enoch ascanon, deuterocanon, or otherwise: "Did Jude, then, consider thisscripture to be like Genesis or Isaiah? Certainly he did consider it authoritative,a true word from God. We cannot tell whether he ranked it alongside otherprophetic books such as Isaiah and Jeremiah. What we do know is, first, thatother Jewish groups, most notably those living in Qumran near the Dead Sea,also used and valued 1 Enoch, but we do not find it grouped with thescriptural scrolls." The attribution "Enoch theSeventh from Adam" is apparently itself a section heading taken from1 Enoch (1 En 60:8, Jude 1:14a) and not from Genesis Also, it has been alleged that 1 Peter, (in 1Peter 3:19–20)and 2 Peter (in 2Peter 2:4–5)make reference to some Enochian material. Reception: The Book of Enoch was considered asscripture in the Epistle of Barnabas (16:4) and by many ofthe early Church Fathers, such as Athenagoras, Clement of Alexandria, Irenaeus and Tertullian, who wrotec. 200 that the Book of Enoch had been rejected by the Jews because itcontained prophecies pertaining to Christ.[29] However,later Fathers denied the canonicity of the book, and some even considered theEpistle of Jude uncanonical because it refers to an "apocryphal"work. 

How We Got Our Bible (Pt.6) This teaching focuses on the apocryphal books and asks the question, 'do they belong in the canon of Holy Scripture?'.  Apocrypha is the name given to the 15 additional books that appear in some Bible translations which contain Jewish religious literature.  If one was to pick up a KJV Bible today, one would turn the page from Malachi, past the page separating the Old and New Testaments, straight into the first chapter of Matthew’s Gospel.  However, in the original KJV Bible of 1611, one would have turned from Malachi to 1 Esdras!!  In fact, the Apocrypha was a part of the KJV for 274 years and was not removed until as late as 1885.  If one picks up a Roman Catholic Bible today, one will find that it consists not of 66 books but of 73 books which includes some apocryphal books known as the deuterocanonical books.  Do these books belong in our Bible and if not why not?  What about the great mass of so-called lost books claiming to be from Bible characters, known as the Pseudepigrapha, such as the Book of Enoch, the Book of Noah, The Acts of John, The Gospel of Thomas etc.  We shall set out in this teaching to answer these questions along with many more. Download notes (pdf)http://traffic.libsyn.com/bethesdashalom/3b_The_Canon_of_the_Bible_Pt2.pdf

SummaryThe Apocrypha, also called Deuterocanonical books by Catholics, are extra books included in the Roman Catholic Old Testament, but not part of the Protestant Old Testament. In this episode, I discuss the reasons I do not believe the Deuterocanonical books are Sacred Scripture. These writings give us historical information and are generally useful, but they are not to be used as Holy Scripture. The Roman Catholic Council of Trent in 1546 says they are Scripture. Do we have to believe the Roman Catholic Church just because they say so?ResourcesCatholic Answers - A "pro-Catholic" resource. They have a free version of the Catholic Encyclopedia which provided me with quotes from the Council of Trent and some definitions used in this episode.Apocrypha Debate - White vs. MichutaThe Old Testament and the Apocrypha - In depth article which includes additional information on this topic.My Friend's Podcasts“Andrew's Daily Five” - Music countdowns. A great way to discover music, both new and old!“Walk With the Word” - Learn to deepen your Bible study as you walk through the Bible verse by verse.MusicMusic by MichaelKobrin from Pixabay (Intro/Outro)Music by JuliusH from Pixabay (Sponsor/Commercial)