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Journalist Frankie de la Cretaz joins us to talk women's sports and all things WNBA! We dig into player and WAG fashion, the visibility of queer families on and off the court, the truth about trans athletes, and mother-athletes past, present and future. Links:* Frankie De La Cretaz on Substack* Frankie's book, Hail Mary: The Rise and Fall of the National Women's Football League* Molly Dickens' the Maternal Stress Project* WNBA Documentaries 144 and The Power of the Dream* Basketball Wives* Angel Reese on Insta* Woxer * WNBA x Skims campaign* TBOY Wrestling* So You Think You Know A Lot About The Titanic by Janet Manley* Oh Mary!* No Taste Like Home * North of NorthIf you love the work we do on Mother Of It All, please consider becoming a paid subscriber, which you can do at motherofitall.substack.com. Paid subscribers get access to everything behind the paywall, like subscriber-only episodes, book reviews and more. If you subscribe at the founding member level, we'll send you one of our awesome tote bags. If you can't become a paid subscriber, that's OK! It's always free and helpful to follow, share, rate and review our show here and everywhere else you listen to podcasts you love. Thank you!* Visit our Bookshop storefront to find all the books we've mentioned here and in previous episodes. When you shop there, we get a small affiliate fee (yay, thank you!).* Visit motherofitall.com to send us ideas for a future episode or learn more about the show.* Follow the podcast on Instagram (@themotherofitall) or Bluesky (@motherofitallpod.bsky.social) This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit motherofitall.substack.com/subscribe

British author Helen Jukes joins us to talk about motherhood in the animal kingdom, and what human mothers can learn from mothers from other species. What is “natural” about motherhood, what is the true nature of motherhood across species? What can we learn by allowing ourselves to truly see and examine the many roles of the mother in nature? At one poetic and rigorous, Helen Jukes' beautiful new book, Mother / Animal, is an illuminating exploration of her own matrescence through the lens of motherhood in the animal world. Note: Helen's book is not available in the U.S. yet, so Blackwell's (a UK based bookseller) has made some signed copies of Mother / Animal by Helen Jukes available to our listeners via this link. LINKS: * Buy Mother/Animal* Follow Helen Jukes on Instagram* How To Catch A Mole by Marc Hamer * The Quickening by Elizabeth Rush* Revolutionary Mothering* Anne Helen Peterson essay on What Makes Women Clean * Amanda Hess on Mother of it AllIf you love the work we do on Mother Of It All, please consider becoming a paid subscriber, which you can do at motherofitall.substack.com. Paid subscribers get access to everything behind the paywall, like subscriber-only episodes, book reviews and more. If you subscribe at the founding member level, we'll send you one of our awesome tote bags. If you can't become a paid subscriber, that's OK! It's always free and helpful to follow, share, rate and review our show here and everywhere else you listen to podcasts you love. Thank you!* Visit our Bookshop storefront to find all the books we've mentioned here and in previous episodes. When you shop there, we get a small affiliate fee (yay, thank you!).* Visit motherofitall.com to send us ideas for a future episode or learn more about the show.* Follow the podcast on Instagram (@themotherofitall) or Bluesky (@motherofitallpod.bsky.social) This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit motherofitall.substack.com/subscribe

MAHA (or “Make America Healthy Again”) motherhood is a bit of a mindf*uck. What, one asks oneself, unites “crunchy” hippie-leaning momfluencers (like Rudy Jude & her wannabes) of the world with someone as spray-tanned Marjorie Taylor Green? One looks like a sentient carcinogen, and one looks like she's never even heard of food dye! So how do we understand their alliance under the umbrella of Making American Healthy Again? For many of us, there are some points of connection with these MAHA moms, which where this conversation gets juicy and frankly a little disconcerting. As Sara Petersen wrote, most moms probably would agree with the MAHA moms in that we prefer that our kids' treats came without red dye #6, a food dye associated with behavioral side effects. But, unlike a MAHA mom, we're proud to be up-to-date on our Covid boosters instead of guzzling raw milk and curing our own cancer with red light therapy (or something, tbh we couldn't bear to go too deep into that one). At the same time that motherhood taps us into our need to give and receive care, the conditions of modern millennial motherhood seem to have stoked a fear-driven and anxiety-ridden individualism. It's a confusing time, and it's getting more baffling by the minute. If MAHA mothers care so much about banning food additives like red dye, why have they aligned themselves with an administration that has effectively gutted the FDA? How did we get to a place where expertise is up for grabs and there is so much mistrust in our public health systems? Can we recover? OG motherhood writer and New York Times opinion columnist Jessica Grose joins us to talk through all this and more. LINKS:* Jessica Grose, The Kind of Moms Who Fall for ‘Make America Healthy Again' (New York Times, Oct 2024)* Screaming on the Inside by Jessica Grose* Sara Petersen: “MAHA Moms Are Wrong About Wellness”* Necessary Losses by Judith Viorst* Ariana Hendrix * Katie Beck On Child-Friendly City Design* Eloise Rickman on Children's Rights* Sprawl Is A Parenting Problem by Erin Sagan* Noah Wylie being hot again on The Pitt* John Early bitIf you love the work we do on Mother Of It All, please consider becoming a paid subscriber, which you can do at motherofitall.substack.com. Paid subscribers get access to everything behind the paywall, like subscriber-only episodes, book reviews and more. If you subscribe at the founding member level, we'll send you one of our awesome tote bags. If you can't become a paid subscriber, that's OK! It's always free and helpful to follow, share, rate and review our show here and everywhere else you listen to podcasts you love. Thank you!* Visit our Bookshop storefront to find all the books we've mentioned here and in previous episodes. When you shop there, we get a small affiliate fee (yay, thank you!).* Visit motherofitall.com to send us ideas for a future episode or learn more about the show.* Follow the podcast on Instagram (@themotherofitall) or Bluesky (@motherofitallpod.bsky.social) This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit motherofitall.substack.com/subscribe

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit motherofitall.substack.comSome people have told us that this podcast is for “literary mom nerds” and we're into that! So, today for our beloved die-hard paid subscribers we're leaning into that! (Please consider becoming one of those, if you aren't already!) We decided to make an episode about what we're reading and loving right now, and what's in our TBR piles. We're still in t…

New York Times critic at large Amanda Hess joins us to talk about the convergence of parenthood and technology. We dig in to everything from freebirthers to prenatal testing, and from “complicated” pregnancies to the many anxieties (and joys, too) of raising a child in a world where a $1600 Snoo has become a newborn must-have and corporations know about our pregnancies before our immediate families do. Hess's much anticipated memoir, Second Life: Having A Child In The Digital Age (which we both LOVED), is out May 6th. Links: * Prenatal Testing Offers Pregnant Women More Information Than Ever — But No Support To Deal With It (Romper) * Unfit Parent by Jessica Slice* Girl on Girl by Sophie Gilbert* Happiest Baby On The BlockIf you love the work we do on Mother Of It All, please consider becoming a paid subscriber, which you can do at motherofitall.substack.com. Paid subscribers get access to everything behind the paywall, like subscriber-only episodes and if you subscribe at the founding member level, we'll send you one of our awesome tote bags. If you can't become a paid subscriber, that's OK! It's always free and helpful to follow, share, rate and review our show here and everywhere else you listen to podcasts you love. Thank you!* Visit our Bookshop storefront to find all the books we've mentioned here and in previous episodes. When you shop there, we get a small affiliate fee (yay, thank you!). * Visit motherofitall.com to send us ideas for a future episode or learn more about the show.* Follow the podcast on Instagram (@themotherofitall) or Bluesky (@motherofitallpod.bsky.social) This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit motherofitall.substack.com/subscribe

We reunite with author and parent Jessica's Slice ahead of the release of her tremendous book, Unfit Parent: A Disabled Mother Challenges an Inaccessible World, to learn how her life with a second child has taught her to throw out the milestones and ask for help (even when it involves a dead possum!). Then, you get to listen to Sarah's initial interview with Jessica, which remains one of our all time favorites and touches on parenting perfectionism, disability justice, and parenting neurodivergent kids. Links:* Order Unfit Parent * Jessica's website and Substack newsletter:Jessica Slice writes about disability, poems, and waterfowl* Disability Visibility, edited by Alice Wong* Lucy Webster's The View From Down Here* Andrew Leland's The Country of the Blind: A Memoir at the End of Sight* We've Got This: Essays by Disabled Parents, edited by Eliza Hull This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit motherofitall.substack.com/subscribe

Debbie Reber, the host of the Tilt Parenting podcast, talks to us about what she's learned from having hundreds of conversations on raising differently-wired kids. We discuss independence versus self-determination, low-demand parenting, how to find your parenting integrity, and whether even having these conversations is a parenting privilege. Links:* Miranda is So Busy So Bored* The Woman Who Thought She Was a Planet and Other Stories by Vandana Singh* Our new Bookshop storefront!* Tilt Parenting Podcast* Differently Wired: A Parent's Guide to Raising an Atypical Child with Confidence and Hope* I Who Have Never Known Men* Jessica Slice's Unfit Parent* I Will Die on This Hill* Ross Greene's Explosive Child* Low-Demand Parenting* The Declarative Language Handbook* Dr. Gina Riley on Self-Determination Theory Culture recs:* The Traitors* Bather's Library Oakland* Lego Masters* How to Talk to Kids When The World Feels Like a Scary Place* Dr. Megan Anna Neff Neurodivergent Insights This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit motherofitall.substack.com/subscribe

“I remember the bizarre feeling of my baby kicking inside me while taking care of patients dying of COVID in the hospital.”Brett was a doctor in a small town when the pandemic hit, with a toddler at home and a baby on the way. In this episode, she and Miranda (who are childhood friends) talk through her experience as a parent, spouse, and physician during those intense years, and the way they continue to impact her and her family five years later. Also, we agree that a cold juice box actually does cure a lot of things, it's just a fact. Links: * Our pandemic parenting survey (you can still take it if you want to)* The first episode of our pandemic parenting surveyIf you love (or honestly even just like) the work that Sarah & Miranda do here on Mother Of It All, please consider becoming a paid subscriber. You support this work (thank you) and will get access to super special content like subscriber-only episodes and even very awesome tote bags for founding members. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit motherofitall.substack.com/subscribe

“Coming into parenthood for the second time, I knew a lot. And I think I had this vision of what I would do differently, and I was going to plug into the local mom's groups, or plug into the play dates and take the yoga classes with the kids and things like that. And it became not that. It became just very, very isolating.”Sarah talks to Marta, who had a fresh professional and parenting start planned, only to be hit with the pandemic. We discuss her desires to tend to her self now that her kids are a bit older, and to find the community she had wanted to build when shut-down struck. Links: * Our pandemic parenting survey (you can still take it if you want to)* The first episode of our pandemic parenting surveyIf you love (or honestly even just like) the work that Sarah & Miranda do here on Mother Of It All, please consider becoming a paid subscriber. You support this work (thank you) and will get access to super special content like subscriber-only episodes and even very awesome tote bags for founding members. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit motherofitall.substack.com/subscribe

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Sarah speaks with Arianne, who gave birth just days into the pandemic lockdown. They discuss how birth trauma and isolation led Arianne to doubt her attachment to her daughter, tricky family relationships, and how she's healed and found what they call “heart family.” Links: * Our pandemic parenting survey (you can still take it if you want to)* The first episode of our pandemic parenting surveyIf you love (or honestly even just like) the work that Sarah & Miranda do here on Mother Of It All, please consider becoming a paid subscriber. You support this work (thank you) and will get access to super special content like subscriber-only episodes and even very awesome tote bags for founding members. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit motherofitall.substack.com/subscribe

One of The Cut's parenting columnists and official friend-of-the-pod, Amil Niazi, joins us to talk about her recent essay on weaning her kids off YouTube. We've covered screen time, but this time we're talking about algorithmic content. Is the algorithm as unavoidable as it feels to many of us? Or is it worth it for parents to push back — even when it makes for some awkward moments with other families — and try to hold out as long as they can? If your kids are already hooked on YouTube, like Amil's were, is there a way to reign it in without a dreaded, endless household meltdown? And if you do manage to kick the algo out of your home, and come out as a non-YouTube family, is the grass really greener? Plus, Sarah and Miranda on “life's hack” (life's ONE hack), the very corporeal fascinations of switching to menstrual cups, first periods, and what it feels like to finally be deeply learning about our menstrual cycles in our 40s. * My Family's YouTube Ban by Amil Niazi (The Cut) * The Anxious Generation by Jonathan Haidt* If Books Could Kill review of The Anxious Generation* The Fun Cup* My Son's Favorite Toy Is A Tampon by Sarah (Scary Mommy)* Babeland * Period: The Real Story of Menstruation by Kate Clancy* 28-ish Days Later BBC Podcast * Second Life by Amanda Hess (episode coming soon!) * Teens, Social Media and Technology 2023 (Pew Research Report). “Roughly nine-in-ten teens say they use YouTube, making it the most widely used platform measured in our survey.”* Meta (Facebook & Instagram & WhatsApp parent company) is not going to moderate content anymore. If you like the work that we do here on Mother Of It All, please consider becoming a paid subscriber. You support this work (thank you!) and will get access to super special content like subscriber-only episodes and even very awesome tote bags for founding members. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit motherofitall.substack.com/subscribe

“I truly believe in the power of policy, and I have been like radicalized by that, since becoming a mom and living here.”Sarah chats with Ariana, a mom in Norway, about how it felt to be a fresh ex-pat when the world shut down. They discuss the overlap and many differences between parenting in the U.S. and Norway during covid, the impact that financial support makes, and how hard it can be to navigate new places at a time when people are holing up. Links: * Ariana wrote more about her pandemic experience on her Substack: What the pandemic taught me about parenting (and life) in Norway* Our pandemic parenting survey (you can still take it if you want to)* The first episode of our pandemic parenting surveyIf you love (or honestly even just like) the work that Sarah & Miranda do here on Mother Of It All, please consider becoming a paid subscriber. You support this work (thank you) and will get access to super special content like subscriber-only episodes and even very awesome tote bags for founding members. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit motherofitall.substack.com/subscribe

“Our foster daughter was doing virtual school. My partner was doing virtual school in the other room. My foster daughter couldn't really stay in virtual school unless I was right next to her, and I was often also on a video call with her social worker ,whose daughter was in virtual school. So it was just like, infinity schools in our house.”Ashleigh had recently quit her job to become a foster parent, and found herself intensively parenting almost 24/7 when Covid lockdowns began. Here, she and Miranda discuss what life was like then, and how those dense days continue to impact her perspective as a parent now. Links: * Our pandemic parenting survey (you can still take it if you want to)* The first episode of our pandemic parenting seriesIf you love (or honestly even just like) the work that Sarah & Miranda do here on Mother Of It All, please consider becoming a paid subscriber. You support this work (thank you) and will get access to super special content like subscriber-only episodes and even very awesome tote bags for founding members. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit motherofitall.substack.com/subscribe

“I had already formed an identity as a parent, which made it easier for me to make decisions in the best interest of my family and kids during that time without heightened fear of judgment. I continue to be grateful for that. If I had had my first child during Covid I know it would have been different.”As part of our pandemic parenting series, Christine, a parent in Brooklyn, joins Miranda to share her reflections on giving birth for the 4th time in 2020, as well as her observations as a teacher about how pandemic isolation impacted not so much child development but parental development.Links: * Our pandemic parenting survey (you can still take it if you want to)* The first episode of our pandemic parenting seriesIf you love (or honestly even just like) the work that Sarah & Miranda do here on Mother Of It All, please consider becoming a paid subscriber. You support this work (thank you) and will get access to super special content like subscriber-only episodes and even very awesome tote bags for founding members. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit motherofitall.substack.com/subscribe

About 500 parents poured their hearts out in the pandemic parenting survey that we sent out into the world last fall. We've been reading your words for a few months (THANK YOU) , and now, here we are in March of 2025. Somehow, it's been five years since the world shut down, and we're ready to talk through our own pandemic experiences, share some of our favorite quotes from those responses, and we're also so grateful to share some of the over-arching themes from your many, thoughtful survey responses.This episode also kicks off our pandemic parenting series: Through the month of March, every few days we'll share conversations with parents whose survey responses were particularly interesting or emblematic. Hey, we all parented hard through a global pandemic! So, that was pretty weird. A lot of us miss those slower days, while a lot of us absolutely do NOT. Some of us moved across the country. Some of us got divorced. We're still worried about our kids. We're still a little anxious. We learned everything can change overnight. We know our neighbors better. Any way you slice it, that time is still with us. Let's talk about it! * Our pandemic parenting survey (you can still take it if you want to)* America's Mothers Are in Crisis: Is anyone listening to them? Jessica Grose (New York Times)* Pandemic Oral History by Jon Mooallem (New York Times) * “Successes and Lessons Learned in Responding to the Needs of Pediatricians, Children, and Families During the COVID-19 Pandemic” American Academy of Pediatrics* “I'll Be First In Line To Vaccinate My Kids, But I'll Never Forget That We Were Last” Miranda (Romper) * Meaghan O'Connell rules* Every Mom I Know Is On Antidepressants (Romper)A lot of people who took our pandemic parenting survey thanked us for just asking how parenting through a global pandemic was, and giving them space to process it all. We really do want to hear about your pandemic experiences — feel free to share your own experiences in the anonymous survey (linked above) or in the comments below. If you love (or honestly even just like) the work that Sarah & Miranda do here on Mother Of It All, please consider becoming a paid subscriber. You support this work (thank you) and will get access to super special content like subscriber-only episodes and even very awesome tote bags for founding members. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit motherofitall.substack.com/subscribe

Sarah is joined by Garrett Bucks, founder of The Barnraisers Project and author of the The White Pages and The Right Kind of White, to talk about the movies of 2024 and what they say about gender, parenting, sex, and more. Find out which of the 24 and 39 movies Garrett and Sarah watched (respectively) are their best and worst. Also — why Dune is a boymom movie, why Garrett had to fast-forward The Substance, and why Challengers is this year's Mamma Mia. * Garrett's Letterboxd* Together (the Swedish one)* Richard Brody's review of The Brutalist* Richard Brody's review of Emilia Pérez* Lindy West's S**t Actually* Babygirl director on Death, Sex, and Money This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit motherofitall.substack.com/subscribe

The Double Shift's Katherine Goldstein joins Sarah and Miranda to talk about her creative solution to the problem that is American summer, why parents are set up to fail in finding summer care, and how to actively create the kind of community we need to build something better. Links:* The Incredible Things You Can Do Instead of Paying For American Summer Camp* How Other Countries Handle Summer with Kids* Katherine's How to Find Your People Club* Ezra Klein Show - Sabbath and the Art of Rest This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit motherofitall.substack.com/subscribe

We're continuing to focus on the experience of trans children and their parents this week with this reading of the exquisite essay As They Like It: Learning To Follow My Child's Lead, by the author, Nicole Graev Lipson. The piece — about gender in Shakespeare and Nicole's journey of watching her child let go of girlhood — was originally published in the Virginia Quarterly Review and then included in The Best American Essays, 2024, edited by Wesley Morris. It's also part of Nicole's upcoming collection, Mothers and Other Fictional Characters, which will be published on March 4th. Links:* Order Nicole's book Mothers and Other Fictional Characters* Read As They Like It: Learning To Follow My Child's Lead* Check out Nicole's book events and other great work This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit motherofitall.substack.com/subscribe

Today Marlo Mack, of the How To Be A Girl podcast, and her friend, “Kay,” join us to talk about their experiences of raising transgender kids in America today. We also dig into what families with transgender kids expect to be dealing with under Trump's second term, and how those of us with trans kids in our lives and hearts can step up and become more active allies in an increasingly unsafe landscape. Links:* Trump Is Trying to Make It Illegal to Help a Trans Child* Marlo's beautiful short cartoon about her daughter's transition* How to Be A Girl Podcast* Erin Reed's trans youth safety map* Marlo's memoir, How to be a Girl* Trans Support Signs and more * March 31st Trans Day of Visibility EventsCulture Recommendations:* Vera on BritBox* Morbid Podcast* Two Girls One Ghost* More of Marlo's author recommendations: * Julia Serano* Jan Morris* Janet Mock* Jennifer Finney BoylanAdditional links to support trans youth:* Trans Youth Equality Foundation Emergency Fund* Bay Area Rainbow Families Ally Kit* SFUSD's letter of support for trans kids (inspiring template for other districts)* Template for writing to healthcare institutions in support of trans care* How parents can support educators right now from Garrett Bucks* Claire Zulkey's fundraiser for the Trevor Project This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit motherofitall.substack.com/subscribe

Sarah and Miranda move through their own climate change cognitive dissonance with the help of Elizabeth Doerr, author of the Cramming for the Apocalypse project. We discuss how parenting lends itself to climate action, how facing the climate reality can actually make you less anxious, and how mothers can give prepper stereotypes a much-needed makeover. Links:* Scribente Maternum* Cramming for the Apocalypse* How Do You Plan For a Future That Might Not Exist? by Liz Plank “I miss my 2015 brain, the one unburdened by the weight of relentless catastrophes, and I miss my 2015 problems, those small, manageable worries that felt so monumental at the time. But more than that, I mourn the 2025 happiness I once allowed myself to envision, a life shimmering with possibility, untouched by the shadow of all we've lost. I grieve the future I was so certain would be mine, the life I thought I was building towards. I can't pinpoint the moment it slipped through my fingers, but I know it's gone. Most of all, I ache for the version of myself who believed in that future, who had the audacity to imagine a world that was bright and brimming with promise.What we're all feeling is grief. Not the tidy, private kind, but a vast, collective mourning that binds us together. We are grieving not just the world we've lost but the futures we were promised, the ones we dared to dream of and expected to inherit.”* What If We Get It Right? by Ayana Elizabeth Johnson and her Climate Action Venn Diagram* Kathryn Schulz's New Yorker article about the Cascadia Fault Earthquake* Ecopsychological Development and Maternal Ecodistress During Matrescence by Aurelie Athan* Twilight Greenaway's Substack, The Window, with regular climate news coverage* Donate to Baby2Baby's fire relief support * More links from Liz:* How to pack a go bag* Our Children's Trust* Families for Climate * Anya Kamenetz's Substack The Golden Hour* Liz Doerr and Brekke Wagoner's 10-week preparedness guide* Britt Wray's Generation Dread takes on climate grief head-on This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit motherofitall.substack.com/subscribe

Katie Beck is a Policy Fellow at the London School of Economics where she helps municipal leaders design more child-friendly cities. She joined us to chat about what child-friendly, care-centered city design really looks like, and who is doing it well. We talk about Bogota's revolutionary ‘care blocks,' what happened when Athens experimented with using a few parking spaces as a park instead, and how easy it really can be to make cities more child-friendly now. We dig into the ways that everybody benefits when cities are designed (or re-designed) with caregiver well-being in mind, and how we can advocate for care-centric urban policies and design in our own cities. * Links:* Witch podcast from BBC* Leslie Kern's Feminist City: Claiming Space in a Man-Made World* Bogota's Care Blocks: Creating Time for Caregivers: Care Blocks as pathways to social inclusion in Bogotá* More than 90% of the world's children breathe toxic air every day* The Bed Book by Sylvia Plath This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit motherofitall.substack.com/subscribe

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit motherofitall.substack.comSarah & Miranda kiss winter break goodbye with a chat about resolutions, witchy solstices, cyclical time, Pamela Adlon, school start times, time jelly, and more! This episode is for our beautiful *paid subscribers* (thank you!) and could also be called Winter Break: The Good, The Bad & The Either Way It's Almost Over. How are you all holding up out ther…

Author Mac Barnett and author and illustrator Jon Klassen join Sarah and Miranda to explain what makes a great picture book and why kids might be better readers than adults. Plus, preschoolers with hammers, Where the Wild Things Are is a true story, the sad blunting our “keenness” as we age, and why we still love our bullies. LINKS:* Looking at Picture Books * The Golden Spoon by Jessa Maxwell (Miranda's Bake Off mystery)* Rebecca by Daphne de Maurier* Shape Island on Apple TV* “How Does Santa Go Down The Chimney” by Mac Barnett & Jon Klassen * Reagan Iran Contra SNL Sketch* Jon & Mac on Margaret Wise Brown over on their substack, Looking at Picture Book* The Elephant and The Bad Baby* Eloise Rickman on Children's Rights* The Marginalian * “I'll Fix Anthony” by Judith Viorst* Mac and Jon on Wild Things* Children's book author Remy Charlip * Children's book author David Crews This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit motherofitall.substack.com/subscribe

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit motherofitall.substack.comIn this bonus episode, Sarah and Miranda talk the best parenting advice for kid explosions and their reactions to the new Nightbitch film. Also, Sarah offers a “Hannukah Surprise,” the Nightbitch theme song she's been working on for a year. Links:* Dan Siegel and the “Flipped Lid”

Poet and author Nancy Reddy joins us to discuss her forthcoming book, The Good Mother Myth: Unlearning Our Bad Ideas About How to Be a Good Mom (pre-order it now!). In it, Nancy explores the historical, cultural, and scientific roots of many of our modern ideas about ‘goodness' + motherhood, like attachment parenting. Spoiler alert: they're pretty sketchy. Links: * Take our survey about parents and the pandemic (thank you!)* The Good Mother Myth by Nancy Reddy* Nancy's piece in Slate on the Golden Hour* The Long Devotion: Poets Writing Motherhood* Jessica Valenti on Mother Tongue* The Texas OB-GYN Exodus (The New Yorker) * Marielle Heller Profile (The New Yorker)* Women Who Run With Wolves: Myths & Stories Of The Wild Woman Archetype by * 1996: The Year That Shook Hip-Hop* Pre-order The Good Mother Myth and join Nancy and Maggie Smith in February for a live conversation! This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit motherofitall.substack.com/subscribe

If any season is movie-watching season, it's now. When we knew we wanted to make a Christmas movie-focused episode, 2008's A Christmas Tale and 2005's The Family Stone sprang to mind right away: These are matriarch-centric Christmas movies that take the whole mom-at-Christmastime thing to the Nth degree. Each in their own way, they put the intense time we spend gathered together with our families of origin at the holidays under a microscope. So, what do The Family Stone and A Christmas Tale have in common? Just about everything, except that one is American and has Dermot Mulroney at his hottest(?) and the other is extremely French and involves a LOT of people smoking cigarettes non-stop. We get dig under the surface of these two films — both of which are centered around big families gathered at the holidays around powerful, complicated matriarchs — with our (new) friends Andie and Sabrina of the Pop Culture Moms podcast.Links: * A Christmas Tale* The Family Stone* Pop Culture Moms on Apple Podcasts, Instagram, and Spotify This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit motherofitall.substack.com/subscribe

Feminist writers Tracy Clark-Flory and Amanda Montei join Sarah and Miranda for Part 2 of our discussion on relationships between men and women (listen to Part 1 here). We talk about the post-election landscape of gender relations — including the rise in both misogynistic rhetoric interest in boycotting men. Is this a gender war or a war on women? Is feminism responsible for the young male Trump voter? What do men and women owe each other, and what do we do with the men in our lives? Links:* Sophie Kemp on Gen Z Men (LA Review of Books) * Jia Tolentino on the Gender Wars (The New Yorker) * The Warrior Mamas Who Elected Trump: Why Tradwife Ideology Continues To Matter (via In Pursuit of Clean Countertops) * Blue Marriage and The Terror of Divorce by Anne Helen Petersen * A feminist utopianism : Sophie Lewis argues against the 'fatalism' of both 4B and heteropessimism, and calls for a collective movement built on solidarity. (via TCF Emails ) * It's not the economy. It's the misogyny. (via Mad Woman) * The “Your Body My Choice” movement This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit motherofitall.substack.com/subscribe

In Part 1 of our jam-packed conversation with feminist writers Tracy Clark-Flory and Amanda Montei, Sarah and Miranda attempt to unpack why this has been such a big year for examining sex in hetero-marriage, the specter of patriarchy haunting all of our marital beds, and whether or not good sex is possible anymore in a hetero-marriage. Links:* Amanda Montei's “Can a Sexless Marriage Be a Happy One? Can a Sexless Marriage Be a Happy One?” in the New York Times Magazine* Liars by Sarah Manguso* All Fours by Miranda July* Tracy on The Endless Repetition of Heterosexuality* Want by Gillian Anderson* Anne Hathaway's The Idea Of You * Nicole Kidman's Babygirl* Ester Perel* Tracy Clark-Flory's fabulous newsletter, TCF Emails and her book, Want Me.* Amanda Montei's fabulous newsletter, Mad Woman, and her book, Touched Out. Culture Recs:* Lisa Taddeo's Three Women and the related television series* Brian Jordan Alvarez This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit motherofitall.substack.com/subscribe

Writer Janet Manley joins us to break down her recent piece, “Pity the Dadfluencers: Their content is for men, but their audience is all women.” We dig into all of our favorite -isms: sexism, feminism, social media-ism (just roll with it), parasocial relationships, plus Wild Robot, Nightbitch, and what the heck you're supposed to do with all those baby teeth. Links:* Chelsea Conaboy on The Wild Robot* Arnold of the Ducks* KAFKA'S BABY Janet's newsletter* The Real Sarah Miller by Sarah Miller* Laurie Stone's Everything is Personal* Attachments by Lucas Mann, and our interview with Lucas* Drawing Links by Edith Zimmerman* Looking at Picture Books by Mac Barnett and Jon Klassen* Loved and Missed by Susie Boyt This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit motherofitall.substack.com/subscribe

Sarah and Miranda are checking in the morning after the election on what's going through our minds, how we're thinking about motherhood and our kids, and whether it's too soon to do silver linings. With a special appearance from Nellie, three-year-old witch.Links:* Amanda Montei says “It's not the economy, it's misogyny.” * Witch podcast on BBC* Seven Year B***h is the today's soundtrack This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit motherofitall.substack.com/subscribe

Miranda and Sarah are joined by actor and comedian Lauren Lapkus and actor and filmmaker Nora Fiffer to talk about their tender, hilarious new film, Another Happy Day. We discuss the isolation and absurdity of early motherhood, taking care of care-takers at work, and why Hollywood should be just as saturated with postpartum movies as it is with World War II movies. Links:* Another Happy Day on Amazon and Apple* Is the Future of Movie Sets An Eight-Hour Work Day with Childcare?? in Variety* All Fours by Miranda July* The Creative Act by Rick Rubin This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit motherofitall.substack.com/subscribe

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit motherofitall.substack.com*This is a paid-subscriber only episode. To become a subscriber, click HERE and sign up for any level of paid membership. P.S. If you subscribe as a “founding member” we'll send you a snazzy Mother Of It All tote bag. Join us as we hash Halloween out. Do we believe in the Switch Witch? DIY costumes: Y/N? Should Halloween happen at school? Do we have to …

No one wants to think about school shootings. But nearly every day in our country, a gun is fired on a campus. Often, when that happens, entire student bodies are then traumatized by spending hours in lockdown. David Riedman of the K-12 school shooting database — an unparalleled collection of data about school shootings that has been used as a resource by publications like The Economist and New York Times, as well as organizations like the FBI— joins Sarah and Miranda to talk about the thing none of us want to talk about but that we absolutely must: American school's gun violence problem. Links: * David's Substack* David's Podcast* Robin Cogan* ​​https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/16/opinion/gabby-giffords-its-the-guns-its-always-the-guns.html* Violence Prevention Project* Everytown This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit motherofitall.substack.com/subscribe

What if we considered care to be a sacred practice? What if the everyday tasks of parenting were backtracked by the dramatic score of the British Baking Show? Elissa Strauss, author of When You Care: Unexpected Magic of Caring for Others joins Sarah and Miranda to mull over what it would mean to value care as a society and in our personal lives. We talk about trusting others with your children, why it's so fraught to admit you like being a parent, alloparents, the Hero's Journey, and kids singing Lean on Me. Plus, Elissa gives us some free couples therapy!Links* Elissa's Book, When You Care: The Unexpected Magic of Caring for Others* Elissa Strauss's Substack, Made with Care* Elissa's Slate Piece: It's a Weird Time to Be a Happy Mom* Economist Nancy Folbre* A Thousand and One Movie* The Care Justice Movement* Alloparenting * Rosalynn Carter* Sarah Blaffer HrdyCulture Recs* Young Sheldon* The Golden Spoon This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit motherofitall.substack.com/subscribe

Author and editor Kaitlyn Teer (you may know her as the editor of Joanna Goddard's Big Salad newsletter ) joins Sarah and Miranda to chat about how weirdly hard and wonderful it is to have hobbies as a mom, and the unique joy of being new (even bad!) at something. We get into such pressing questions as: What is “contaminated leisure time,” and how can we carve out ‘uncontaminated' time to explore who we are beyond work and caregiving? If modern motherhood is defined by a sense of pressure to optimize our every decision, what does it mean to chase ‘beginners mind,' uncertainty, and inefficient uses of time? Are our hobbies an expression of millennial economic dread, and an effort to detach our sense of self-regard from the capitalistic value systems that have left us in the lurch? Are we totally overthinking this? We also touch on: Kaitlyn's amazing hair, Doggy Land, and Sarah's recent swimming pool cannonball-ing achievements. Plus culture recs, moving as a mom (hard!), and more. This episode is sponsored by Freeya, a marketplace for free stuff. Links* Anne Helen Petersen on quality leisure time vs. ‘contaminated leisure time' * Follow Kaitlyn on Instagram* Kaitlyn Teer on Mountain Biking In New Motherhood* ‘Popsicles Can't Fix This New Heat', Kaitlyn Teer over at Electric Lit* Big Salad, Joanna Goddard's newsletter (edited by Kaitlyn!)* Digital Minimalism by Cal Newport* The Home Place: Memoirs of a Colored Man's Love Affair with Nature by J. Drew Lanham * Better Living Through Birding: Notes from a Black Man in the Natural World By Christian Cooper* Hike Clerb* Family-oriented family (brene brown pod— sarah can you add?)* Crayola Air-Dry Clay & how to make a clay flower frog* Doggy Lands affirmations* Madwoman by Chelsea Bieker * Skull King This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit motherofitall.substack.com/subscribe

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit motherofitall.substack.comSarah and Miranda check in on Miranda's daughter's very first day of big kid school (even though she claims she's “still little”), watch the just-dropped Nightbitch trailer in real time, discuss Sarah's impending move after 15 years in the same apartment, and talk hetero-exceptionalism and Sarah Manguso's “Liars,” family camp and “Get S**t Done Days.”Links:* Nightbitch Trailer* Necessary Losses by Judith Viorst* How to Manage Back to School Feelings by Sarah* Liars by Sarah Manguso* Tracy Clark-Floryon hetero-exceptionalism* Kathryn Jezer-Morton on affirmation culture in Brooding* Female Friends Spend Raucous Night Validating the S**t Out of Each Other in the Onion* Berenstain Bears Moving Day

We are thrilled to kick off season 2(!) with a bang in the form of a meaty, rich conversation with Eloise Rickman, author of It's Not Fair: Why It's Time For A Grown-Up Conversation About How Adults Treat Children. We hadn't thought about children's rights much before reading Eloise's book (have you?) and now it's all we want to think about. What are children's rights? How can we think about them in the context of parenting? What is adultism? Should kids vote? What even is a child and who gets to decide? Why hasn't the U.S. ratified the UN Convention on the Rights Of The Child? (anyone, anyone?) If it's our goal to respect the rights of our children at all times, how do we get our kids to go to bed?Also: Random TMI about Sarah & Miranda's exercise habits. Tune in, and share your thoughts below. Links: * It's Not Fair: Why It's Time For A Grown-Up Conversation About How Adults Treat Children. * The UN Convention on the Rights Of The Child* Download a poster of the CRC here This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit motherofitall.substack.com/subscribe

Sarah & Miranda shoot the breeze, talk about some back-to-school feelings, drop some hints about what we'll cover in season 2, and nerd out about THAT EPISODE of The Bear. We had so much fun with Phil Maciak on our Screen Time episode (our most-listened to episode, BTW! thanks for that, friends) that we had to bring him back to talk about *crunch crunch crunch* : the 39 minutes of prestige TV that we call “Ice Chips.”This episode of the podcast will spoil Season 3 of The Bear for you, but it will also cover “Napkins,” and “Fishes” quite extensively. In other words, you may want to catch up on The Bear and then listen. TL;DR: Donna Berzatto — discuss! Phil's Romper Q&A With Abby Elliott “It's Abby Elliot Who Makes It Real”Irish President Says Homework Should Be BannedAll About Love by bell hooksCulture recs: The Bear (FX)Slow Horses (Apple TV)Industry (HBO)Baskets (FX) Get full access to The Mother Of It All at motherofitall.substack.com/subscribe

It's summer, which means Sarah's rocking a 3-cone-per-day ice cream lifestyle, and Miranda is guzzling $1 slushies by the pool. And work is …. still kind of happening. The brilliant, hilarious of the Evil Witches newsletter (which you need to subscribe to, if you don't already) joins us to talk about the various joys and perils of summertime parenting and yes, of course, the perpetually fraught, exhausting question of the whole camp thing. Links: Summer Camp and Parenting Panics at The New YorkerSummer Child Care Is a Special Kind of Hell on The Cut“Feral Mom Summer” on RomperMelinda Wenner Moyer: “We Don't Need To Make The Most Of Summer” Get full access to The Mother Of It All at motherofitall.substack.com/subscribe

Canadian writer and The Cut columnist Niazi joins us to discuss what happens when an entire generation follows their dreams, whether our economic instability is real or imagined, and having children (even a third!) while fighting against upgrade culture. Also, we stan Better Things, and, what if it is all going to be okay?Links: * MOFITA summer book club* Should We Expect More From Dads? (and praise for Lucas Mann's Attachments) (Hua Hsu in The New Yorker)* Welcome To The Millennial Midlife Crisis (Amil Niazi in The Cut)* Will I Ever Retire? Millennials Wonder What's On The Other Side Of Middle Age (Amil Niazi in The Guardian)* What Are Children For? (Anastasia Berg in The Cut)* It's Weird Times To Be A Happy Mother (Elissa Strauss in Slate)* Follow Amil on X (formerly known as Twitter) here or her Substack Cry, BabyCulture recs: * Beach Read * Pucking Around* Nightbitch Get full access to The Mother Of It All at motherofitall.substack.com/subscribe

Sarah and Miranda are joined by , author of Boymom: Reimagining Boyhood in the Age of Impossible Masculinity to talk about how boys need more but get less, the boys who are dying to talk about their feelings, and the radical power of a board book about a boy and his bags. Plus, do we say “no” to toxic-masculinity media or just say “yes” to better things? And a special round of “Marry, F**k, Kill!” Links:* Sarah's piece in the Cut on cross-gender friendships* Boymom the book* Sarah's piece in Romper on Boymom* Ruth's Substack: I Blame SocietyCulture recs for boys:* Cool Runnings* Wednesday* Clive Board Books by Jessica Spanyol Get full access to The Mother Of It All at motherofitall.substack.com/subscribe

A juicy, earnestly silly over-think of Mamma Mia and Mamma Mia 2: Here We Go Again (Sarah's preferred Mamma Mia) in which Sarah's friend joins us with a spicy-hot take on the three (three!) dads of Mamma Mia. When Bucks is not thinking about the rich, layered texts that are Mamma Mia and Mamma Mia 2: Here We Go Again, he keeps busy doing Dad Stuff, as well as working as an anti-racist organizer and educator, and authoring the Substack Newsletter . If you like his take on Mamma Mia, you may also love his memoir, The Right Kind of White. Links:* Garrett's new memoir, The Right Kind of White* Garrett's great newsletter, , and his “Ten Movies, Ten Stories of Whiteness” series.* Actually good dad screen-recs:* Together (the Swedish one)* The Sandlot* Interstellar* Eighth Grade* How Bluey Made me a Better Dad* 's 4000 words on Whiteness and Dirty Dancing Get full access to The Mother Of It All at motherofitall.substack.com/subscribe

Sarah flew to Iceland, only to be immediately taken down by a stomach flu. Meanwhile, back at home a Covid-like virus knocked Miranda's family out for 14 days. So we called an emergency recording session of Mother Of It All just to vent about it all together. Why can't parents have nice things, like occasional vacations or a week or two without absolutely disgusting viruses? Is every virus we get now actually worse since Covid lockdown, or does it just feel that way? What ever happened to the normal cold? Like a nice, 3-5 day stuffy nose? When you s**t your pants on a plane but everyone's asleep, did it really happen? And is being sick in a hotel room by yourself the only “joy” left for parents?? Links:-Plane landed by diarrhea (true fact)-A quick guide to Norse Gods-Nose sprays are either sketchy or amazing-Miranda's doctor lady was right-Follow us on Substack! (Summer reading club is coming!) Get full access to The Mother Of It All at motherofitall.substack.com/subscribe

Sarah and Miranda host their first dad, cultural critic Phillip Maciak, and dig into screen time, shame, nostalgia, hugs, and multi-level marketing for second-graders. Links:Phil's book, Avidly Reads Screen TimePhil on InstagramPhil's review of Season 2 of the Bear in The New RepublicThe NOLA Pelicans' King Cake Baby mascotThe Anxious Generation by Jonathan HaidtStephanie Murray's thoughts in the Dispatch' thoughts in RomperMelinda Wenner Moyer's thoughts in 's The Art of Screen Time: How Your Family Can Balance Digital Media and Real LifeSky GuideJessica Grose on Screens in SchoolsThe Digital Wealth Divide in SchoolsPhil on Frog and Toad on Bluey as the Breaking Bad of family televisionCulture Recs:She-ra and the Princess of Power Hilda City of Ghosts Harriet the Spy Show Muppet Babies  with and Get full access to The Mother Of It All at motherofitall.substack.com/subscribe

Sarah and Miranda are joined by their moms, Bev and Linda, to talk about modern motherhood, what has and hasn't changed in a generation, “Folly Fridays,” and whether mothers ever truly get their flowers.Links:* Terry Brazelton* Lydia Kiesling's Golden State Get full access to The Mother Of It All at motherofitall.substack.com/subscribe

Sarah and Miranda talk to Lucy Jones, author of the book Matrescence, out May 7th, about how becoming a mother is truly a biopsychosocial evolution, how motherhood in nature is more often about chaos and violence than dyads and instincts, Kafka's Metamorphosis, and our favorite Bluey episodes.Links:Order Lucy's book, MatrescenceAlexandra Sacks' The Birth of a Mother in the NY TImesThe Quickening by Elizabeth RushNatality by Jennifer BanksPartum Gardens PortlandAndrea O'ReillySarah's favorite Bluey episode Get full access to The Mother Of It All at motherofitall.substack.com/subscribe

A little one-on-one time with Sarah and Miranda! A fun chit-chatty check-in about vasectomies, the third kid question, the weird pressure of turning 40, why Sarah "doesn't get" Hawaii, mole moms, hopping on the 'crone train, and calendar reminders gone wild. Plus, a big announcement! How To Catch A Mole by Marc HamerPoser by Claire DedererKrtek The Mole, Clementine, Psychic Sister

Columnist and sociologist Kathryn Jezer-Morton returns to give the inside scoop on her recent profile of Dr. Becky. Sarah, Miranda and KJM dive deep into what's great (and maybe no so great) about the advice Dr. Becky doles out, and Kathryn explains what ultimately surprised her most about spending time with Dr. Becky and the “Good Inside” parent community.  Links: KJM's NY Magazine Profile of Dr. Becky. More thoughts about the profile in her Cut column, Brooding. Dr. Becky on Instagram

Sarah and Miranda are joined by Rebecca Kronman, a licensed clinical social worker and co-founder of Plant Parenthood, a community that explores the intersection of psychedelics and the family. She talks about the importance of set and setting, the false dichotomy between healing and joy, and about how psychedelics help some parents heal intergenerational trauma and connect more easily with their children by tapping them into a more child-like perspective. Links: Rebecca Kronman of Plant Parenthood Miranda's feature on Mushroom Moms Sarah's Cut piece Moms Gone Wild Study: Your Brain on LSD Looks A Lot Like A Baby's Santo Daime Ismail L. Ali of MAPS Fireside Project Trip Support Hotline How To Change Your Mind by Michael Pollan  Global Psychedelic Society  Culture Recs: The Upstairs House by Julia Fine The Hidden Life of Pets show on Netlfix

LitHub contributing editor Janet Manley joins us to talk about the postpartum comedy with a horror twist that started it all, 2018's Tully. We discuss how the conversation around the postpartum period has changed in six years, what the New York Times got wrong about this film, and what we would go back and offer our postpartum selves. Links: Janet's newsletter, Kafka's Baby Janet's coverage of the movie here and here Stupid NYT review Better Vulture review Book Recs: Samantha Hunt's Mr. Splitfoot Rachel Yoder's Nightbitch Julia Fine's The Upstairs House