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"There are two types of people in this world: Those who like Neil Diamond, and those who don't." - Dr. Bob Wiley, author of the renowned memoir Death Therapy. As Dr. Bob suggests, you can divide the world into two (hopefully unequal) parts. You'll find Bill and Frank on the bright side of the world where Neil Diamond is adored. This episode sees the return of Dan Ducroix, who fell in love with the music of Neil Diamond over 25 years ago, leading him for a brief period to emulate the 1970s style of the smouldering version of Neil. He may have abandoned the belt buckles and mutton chops, but not his love for the music of the Jewish Elvis. We celebrate the most ubiquitous (ubonkquitous?) of the Diamond catalogue: "Sweet Caroline." We discuss not only the history of the song, but also reflect on singalong culture and dangers of writing a song inspired by E.T. Thank you for listening! You can find us on Instagram, Facebook, and our website. You can email us at BandFGuiltFree@gmail.com, too. We'd love to hear from you. Please rate and review us wherever you listen, but more importantly - share our show with your friends! Our theme music is by the incredibly talented Ian McGlynn  

Welcome to the Five Song Mixtape! This week we discuss the mixtape titled “Beauties in the Breakdown” by Devin. You can find the playlist by following our account on Spotify @FiveSongMixtape or you can find us on Instagram @FiveSongMixtape. We would love to hear your thoughts on the playlist and please give us a rating via iTunes to help spread the word!“Beauties in the Breakdown” by Devin1. “Unchecked Fury” by Crave Death2. “Liar's Tongue” by Caged Existence3. “Hollowed by Affliction” by Dying Wish4. “Natural Selection” by Volatile Ways, Malevolence5. “Death Therapy” by Terminal Sleep Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

From the Death Therapy archives..... It would have been a crime not to add this little gem of 30 minutes into the Same Team catalog. Originally from the podcast Death Therapy, Danny and Jeremy share the same number 1 album of all time and talk about how magical that time was in their life. Enjoy! 

Welcome back to Analyze Scripts, where a psychiatrist and a therapist analyze what Hollywood gets right and wrong about mental health. Today, we analyze the psychoanalytic classic "What About Bob." Bill Murray and Richard Dreyfuss portray a larger than life characters allowing for a rich discussion about the therapist-patient relationship. We discuss everything from our diagnostic impressions to our critiques about Dr. Marvin's office decor and...bizarre family puppets?!? We hope you enjoy! Analyze Scripts Instagram Analyze Scripts TikTok Analyze Scripts YouTube Analyze Scripts Website [00:19] Dr. Katrina Furey: Hi. [00:20] Portia Pendleton: Welcome back for another episode of Analyze Scripts. Today we are going to be talking about about psychoanalytical classic movie, What About Bob? [00:30] Dr. Katrina Furey: Yes, we are. [00:31] Portia Pendleton: So, just a reminder, I'm Portia Pendleton. I'm a licensed clinical social worker, and. [00:36] Dr. Katrina Furey: I'm going to be speaking with Dr. Katrina Fury. I am a psychiatrist. And we're glad that you're back joining us, or if it's your first time, welcome. Yeah. So glad you're here. [00:47] Portia Pendleton: So we picked what about Bob? Because it's so rich with just characters and silly people and really a lot of questions around diagnostics. [00:59] Dr. Katrina Furey: Yes. And just the therapist patient relationship. [01:04] Portia Pendleton: I guess I would start with how I felt watching this movie. [01:08] Dr. Katrina Furey: Okay. [01:08] Portia Pendleton: Which was not good. I felt so anxious. I felt icky. I felt nervous. I felt like I did not feel good. I kept picturing somebody stalking me on the family vacation. [01:24] Dr. Katrina Furey: I know. [01:24] Portia Pendleton: And just driving me insane. The more the movie went on, the more I just felt like, this is, like, my worst nightmare happening. [01:34] Dr. Katrina Furey: I know. I wish I had a better understanding of how they came up with the concept for this movie, because I feel like you could analyze this movie in so many different levels. Like, on the really surface level, it's a movie about Kooky patient played by Bill Murray, which seemed like a perfect choice, growing really attached to a new psychiatrist really quickly and then following him on vacation, and all the hygiene, sudden sue. That's, like, level one. And then level two is sort of like the metaphor, I think, for what it feels like to be working with a patient who's really challenging and crosses boundaries. And then I was thinking, like, on a third meta level, is there something even more about us now, analyzing this dynamic between the analyst and his patient and then the patient becoming a therapist at the end? It got too overwhelming for me to make sense now. [02:33] Portia Pendleton: Totally. Yeah. I mean, where do you even want to start? What feels helpful to kind of get us going? [02:42] Dr. Katrina Furey: I think where I always want to start is analyzing the therapist's office. Okay. So I thought this was, like, a really classic therapy office in Manhattan. It looked like it was in a really nice high rise with the doorman, some sense of security. I think they were on, like, the 40th something floor, because we saw Bob walk up all those steps because he's afraid of elevators. Again, this movie came out in the 90s, so you can tell with the clothes, which I love. But this white man therapist had a female secretary who was dressed in kind of, like, 80s secretary clothes. And he had a nice big office, I think, with some nice big windows, a big old mahogany desk. And then what did you think about all his degrees on the wall? [03:34] Portia Pendleton: I thought, and you can maybe be a little bit insightful here as a psychiatrist, I thought it was like the perfect stereotypical psychiatry office. Right? Like there is a desk between a patient and the doctor. Because I think in the still a little bit more like Freudian maybe there's. [03:56] Dr. Katrina Furey: Like a couch or a chair. [03:57] Portia Pendleton: I'm still picturing the dark colors. Mahogany type stuff too. But I just think having a book having bookshelves with all of your books and then all of manuals and all that stuff and his degrees. [04:12] Dr. Katrina Furey: He had one of those big fancy rugs. Yes. Which I do have my office. Oh, my God. The bust of Freud. Yeah, he did have there was like behind the chairs underneath his wall of degrees was some sort of horizontal shelf and on it was glass. Again, I'm always like why it looks like almost like a little crystal goblet with little tiny crystal glasses like you might use to pour like after dinner drinks or something. I thought it was out of place but sort of spoke to his own feelings of self importance I think. But again I'm always like we don't have glasses, anything glass or breakable in. [04:53] Portia Pendleton: The office and you're not offering any patient a drink. And you might if you are in an office, a law firm, anything else type of thing. [05:05] Dr. Katrina Furey: Right. We might do like deals and sign the dotted line or something. In my training, even as a psychiatrist I hated that he talked to his patient behind his big old desk. My office is not set up that way. We were always trained not to have something in between you and the patient. That's just such like a nonverbal barrier. Quite literally and clearly dr. Leo Marvin, played by Richard Dreyfus, is Freudian because he named his son Sigmund and his daughter Anna and Sigmund Freud. And then Sigmund Freud's real daughter was named Anna Freud. So that was pretty funny. He has the Freudian bust which I thought was just really intense. And then the degrees too. I don't like when people display their own degrees. I think it could be off putting. I guess it goes both ways. I don't do that in an office where I see patients. I worry about that being off putting or making someone feel like uncomfortable or inferior. I feel like it's trying to communicate how smart you are. But why do you have to do it that way? [06:17] Portia Pendleton: I think it's also too like information that I might not want every single person to have. I think you can absolutely look people up and obviously there's so much information available now too. But maybe I don't want you knowing where I got my bachelor's. Maybe that's where my home state is. So I think again even just thinking about that I think more in maybe a presenter or like a lecturer. I think it's maybe something to right. [06:41] Dr. Katrina Furey: Like if you're on a zoom call for you're being interviewed by the news or something. He also had family pictures of remember Bob comes right in a patient like this will just zero in right away. So, again, that was like a big no no. And his book, Baby Steps, being, like, all over his own bookshelf, what do you think of that? [07:06] Portia Pendleton: So I laughed out loud when he was, like, pretending to find it. Let me peruse my bookshelf here and give you the book that I think would be so helpful. Oh, here it is. I wrote it. [07:18] Dr. Katrina Furey: I wrote it. It just came out and it's a big hit. [07:21] Portia Pendleton: And you owe me now, what, $30.29 95. I didn't even tell you I'm going. [07:27] Dr. Katrina Furey: To charge you for it. I know. This psychiatrist, again, I feel like is such a good character, and I hope psychiatrists aren't like this, but I think there might be some who sort of smell their own farts, as they say. [07:47] Portia Pendleton: Yeah, I mean, I think, too, the field, in my opinion, has come, like, a long, long way, and I think that's intentional and good. And I think psychiatry specifically has been more like, I'm the doctor. I'm in this position of power. And I think obviously we know that that's not helpful. So now you don't have the desk in between you. You are more accessible. You are still a caregiver, a helper, a healer and kind of taking on more of those identities than just like, in an ivory. Right, exactly. [08:18] Dr. Katrina Furey: Yeah. But what a perfect depiction of an egocentric psychiatrist. And I do have to say, as he's perusing his shelf, looking for his own book to give to Bob, you could tell he was really enjoying that, being able to give him his own book. And he was so excited that Good Morning America wants to interview him. I was like, oh, no. Am I Dr. Leo Marvin with this podcast? Because I'm really excited about it. And I was like, oh, no, I don't think so. I don't think so. Let's back up. [08:54] Portia Pendleton: Do you want to talk about the referral? [08:57] Dr. Katrina Furey: All day long we love talking about referral. So before we get into Dr. Marvin's office or before Bob gets into it, we see a colleague of his, give him a call to sort of talk about referring a patient to him. And I love that they pan to the colleague, like, frantically packing us stuff up, and he's like, I'm quitting the field. I'm leaving the country. I have to get out of here. [09:23] Portia Pendleton: Which sometimes I think we all feel like running away. [09:26] Dr. Katrina Furey: Yeah. [09:27] Portia Pendleton: But we don't. And we get supervision and self care and then we come back and hopefully. [09:32] Dr. Katrina Furey: You learn and have the support in the organization you work in to work with the patients. You feel like you have the capacity to help and not take on the ones who you're not equipped to help for whatever reason. Right, but so this colleague is trying to refer a patient to Dr. Marvin and really appeals to his narcissism by being like he really just needs a brilliant doctor. He knows what to do. And Dr Marvin, you see him sort of like that feels good and he feels so good and valued and he's like, yeah, you're right. I probably could help him. And I wrote down a couple of things that he said. He was like, always comes on time, always pays. Just things like that before he even gets into why is he in treatment to begin with? What were your thoughts? [10:29] Portia Pendleton: It's like he almost put everything out there. That is the positive spin of Bob's quote unquote issues. So he shows up every time because of course he does. He's probably 5 hours early because he wants to spend more time with you or making sure that he is paying. Because obviously that is a piece how we access care so he's not going to miss a payment and so on and so forth. But I think it also keeps you. [10:54] Dr. Katrina Furey: On the hook if he pays early. [10:55] Portia Pendleton: Right. [10:56] Dr. Katrina Furey: You're like indebted to him, right? He's got the power. [10:59] Portia Pendleton: And I think with referrals we tend to want those details. What kind of insurance do they have or do they come regularly? How do they schedule? Do they need an afternoon appointment or a day appointment? Those are questions that we might ask someone who's coming to us just so we can see if we're a good fit. [11:20] Dr. Katrina Furey: But what Dr marvin didn't ask is, why are you referring him out? And I think he didn't even think of it because he was so flattered and on such a high that this psychiatrist feels like he can't possibly help this patient. He needs someone brilliant and that's who he thought of. [11:37] Portia Pendleton: This was a takeaway for me and I was like, I think I need to tweak my questions a little bit. I'm going to ask some more. [11:46] Dr. Katrina Furey: Oh yeah, ask a little more background info details. Yeah. So we see that. I think the old psychiatrist even says like, I'm free once Dr. Marvin agrees to see him. And then we see Dr Marvin sort of phone conference again. Very ninety s out to his secretary. She steps away. Right? I know. I also hated that the secretary brought in the patient. I don't know, just so much. I don't like the way Dr Marvin does it. But anyway, he's like book him for brief telephone consultation after I return from vacation. And she's like, oh, he's your next patient. He's already here. And he's like, okay, I guess I'll see him because then I'm going to be gone for a month. And that's again for me like Therapist 101. Right? What were you going to say for you? [12:35] Portia Pendleton: I was going to say that exact same thing. You also don't spend ten minutes with someone again. Maybe that is a part of the theatrical piece. We don't have time to have an hour and a half session to watch. But he's with him so briefly gets all of this information is able to make all of these diagnoses and then I'm going to abandon you. [13:00] Dr. Katrina Furey: And I think that ten minute intro, I feel like, is more akin to. [13:06] Portia Pendleton: A screening phone call. [13:08] Dr. Katrina Furey: When someone new is coming to your practice and you spend, like, ten to 15 minutes on the phone with them, just talking, hearing what they're looking for, asking some of those questions, like insurance coverage, time of day, things. Like that. You sort of start to glean some information to figure out if you think you'll be able to help them, if you're a good fit or not. But yeah, it seemed like Dr. Marvin really quickly picked up on a lot of Bob's interpersonal issues. He walks right in and is like, can I call you Leo? Oh, that's your family. I'm going to get their names. Tell me about, like already you're like, oh, boundaries, boundaries, boundary. Like, this guy has really hard time with boundaries. Again, one day we'll have like a little jingle to play when we talk about boundaries, but again, to then still, after getting all of that, be like, okay, I'll see you in a month, right, and you're not going to have any trouble with this. [13:59] Portia Pendleton: But I did hear or I did pick up on, like he had a physician covering. That's good. If you're going away for an extended period of time and there's patients who need refills or just like a touch point, it's great to have a covering provider for you, right. [14:19] Dr. Katrina Furey: And that's standard of care. Again, I would have cautioned Dr. Marvin not to make the exception and squeeze him in and meet him before you're going away, maybe stick to the boundary of meeting with him when you get back. And if that's not going to work for him, then he would have found another provider in the interim. But again, I don't think Dr. Marvin is really thinking about that. His mind's on the Good Morning America interview. [14:44] Portia Pendleton: Vacation. [14:45] Dr. Katrina Furey: The vacation. And he just felt so good about himself when his colleague manipulated him to sort of dump this case on him. [14:53] Portia Pendleton: Yeah. So then we kind of are following Bob right back to his apartment. [14:58] Dr. Katrina Furey: He's taking baby steps. He took baby steps out the door. He comes back in the door, he walks all around his windows. You're just like, whoa. [15:05] Portia Pendleton: He gets in the elevator. I mean, funny. He screams. The camera kind of pans away, right? [15:16] Dr. Katrina Furey: We're back after another technical snafu. It's really hard to figure out batteries and podcast technology, but we are professionals, so we're going to jump right back in. I think we left off just talking about Bob very quickly attaching to Dr. Marvin and idealizing him. I would imagine in Bob's mind, he's now devaluing his former therapist and he sort of like, very quickly is healed, so to speak. He gets this book, Baby Steps, written by Dr. Marvin, handed to him by the very Dr. Marvin doesn't even read. [15:55] Portia Pendleton: It yet and is literally taking baby. [15:59] Dr. Katrina Furey: Steps literally taking baby steps to get out the door. Comes back in the door, takes baby steps around the office in an inappropriate manner, but then does get on the elevator, which he couldn't do coming in the door. Correct. So it's sort of this like, flight to wellness that is unbelievable. And in fact, it is unbelievable. Doesn't last long. Right. [16:20] Portia Pendleton: And we see Bob, like, checking his pulse on his way there multiple times. He seems to be like, repeating a mantra, having some sort of memory repetition prior to this appointment. [16:32] Dr. Katrina Furey: Right. [16:33] Portia Pendleton: I think he says, I feel good, I feel great, I feel wonderful, over and over and over again. [16:37] Dr. Katrina Furey: Right. And I thought it was interesting when he was walking to the appointment, repeating that to himself, they had another extra type character walk by who seemed to be having more like, paranoid thought processes going on. I thought that was an interesting juxtaposition. I also was shocked that Bob, it looked like he worked from home before. Working from home was a thing. Like he has his apartment with his fish, Gill. And then he was like, okay, bye, Gill, see you later. I'm going to work. And he sits at his desk and then punches in. And I wasn't sure what was up with that. [17:10] Portia Pendleton: Yeah. I don't know. I didn't catch that. I think it's just funny. Especially at that time, he's living in New York City with seemingly some sort of like a contamination phobia. Right. I don't know. And I think, again, they purposely show us it's like a dirty street. This man bumps into you. [17:28] Dr. Katrina Furey: He's using a handkerchief to touch everything. [17:30] Portia Pendleton: Yeah. [17:32] Dr. Katrina Furey: Right. I mean, that sounds like the ultimate exposure of all exposure to live in New York City and get through the day. I know. Diagnostically. What were you thinking as you were watching this? [17:45] Portia Pendleton: A lot of things. Yeah, definitely. Like some phobias, maybe some OCD in there. Obsessive compulsive disorder, panic symptoms. Kind of a panic disorder, I think, where maybe like, others seem to be curious is like kind of the bigger, though, overall overarching diagnosis. Is this a personality disorder? [18:08] Dr. Katrina Furey: Is this trauma? [18:10] Portia Pendleton: Yeah. What is going on here that is kind of anchoring all these other symptoms? [18:16] Dr. Katrina Furey: Right. Like, what's the base foundation of everything Bob's experiencing? [18:20] Portia Pendleton: Yeah. [18:20] Dr. Katrina Furey: He was really afraid of having Tourette's, remember? And he kept saying, like, well, if I fake it, then I don't have it. [18:25] Portia Pendleton: Right. [18:25] Dr. Katrina Furey: And even that I thought was really fascinating. Like, I could mull on that for a while. [18:33] Portia Pendleton: Seems like he has an ex partner, ex wife who he ended the relationship with because of a disagreement about Neil Diamond. [18:41] Dr. Katrina Furey: Right. And I love Dr. Marvin's analysis of that being like, oh, I see. So you left her because you don't like Neil Diamond. She didn't leave you for all of these other obvious reasons. Again, I thought that was a little early in the therapeutic relationship to point something out like that. But I think it served to, again, idealize him in Bob's eyes, which he probably enjoyed and sort of right away was sort of alluding to Bob's issues, I think, with abandonment, which we see by him taking such big steps to get to Dr. Marvin at Lake Winniposaki. [19:19] Portia Pendleton: Right. So what do you do? Are you seeing any kind of disorders with Dr. Leo? [19:28] Dr. Katrina Furey: Like, narcissism, for sure. I think he's just very classically a narcissist. I was really surprised he didn't wear a tweed coat at any point in this movie. I feel like psychiatrists are such a stereotype of them wearing, like, tweed coats with an old smoking pipe when he was preparing for the interview. Yeah, I was dying when he had the gun on the wall. [19:50] Portia Pendleton: In today's society, that would be a no go. Like you are. Please remove the gun from your mental health. [19:58] Dr. Katrina Furey: And then he settled on the bust of Freud I just couldn't. [20:01] Portia Pendleton: And make it with them. [20:04] Dr. Katrina Furey: And he made his family stand there and watch and chime in and like the weird puppets. [20:09] Portia Pendleton: Oh, my goodness. [20:10] Dr. Katrina Furey: The weird puppets. At first I thought that was just like, a weird decoration, but then he used it with his daughter. Oh, it was just weird. [20:17] Portia Pendleton: So his daughter Anna is played by Catherine I don't know how to say her last name. Erby Urbe. And she's in law and order. And I knew I recognized her. I mean, she was much younger movie, but I looked her up right after because I was like, where do I know her from? Where do I know her from? And then his wife, Faye. I feel like I know her from other things. I really liked her character. [20:40] Dr. Katrina Furey: Me too. [20:41] Portia Pendleton: I feel like it's almost like blissful ignorance or something. She was like, a good contradiction to her. [20:52] Dr. Katrina Furey: She was like an interesting combo between kind of seeming blissfully unaware, maybe even dim wooded. I hate to say it, but, like, in a sweet way to then sort of calling him out or pointing things out to him. But again, in a way that didn't seem like any of them were really listening to him when he was trying to say, like, this is inappropriate from it is. It totally is. Wildly, wildly. [21:20] Portia Pendleton: They felt bad for Bob, but they were like, oh, Bob needs this. And I was just like. [21:26] Dr. Katrina Furey: Leo was. [21:27] Portia Pendleton: Being, like, gaslit by his own family. [21:30] Dr. Katrina Furey: And then even by the psychiatric colleagues once he so we'll get there in a second. But in terms of diagnoses, I mean, I think to me this is a really, again, over the top comedic depiction of something like a cluster b personality disorder, like borderline personality disorder or something like that. I think we see a lot of the common, I guess, defense mechanisms that you often see with cases like this. Like the splitting we see a lot of splitting, which is kind of like what we're just talking about with his family, being able to convince all the family members that he's so good and he needs their help. But then Dr. Leo is seeing, like, oh, this is really inappropriate and making me uncomfortable, seeing things as either all good or all bad. That black or white thinking is really apparent in so many ways. [22:31] Portia Pendleton: I guess. [22:31] Dr. Katrina Furey: Should we talk a little bit about what is borderline personality disorder before we sort of dive in? Yeah. [22:37] Portia Pendleton: So so let me just say this before we do that, because I think this is almost like my big question about his diagnosis is, like, at times I was wondering if he was intentionally manipulating people or at other times it seemed like he had just, like, no idea self awareness. [23:00] Dr. Katrina Furey: But was that an act? Is that you're wondering? [23:02] Portia Pendleton: That's where I'm kind of on the fence of even just like to take someone who maybe has their own stuff narcissism and literally render them insane. Right. For lack of a better word. And I'm just like, that takes a big skill. [23:24] Dr. Katrina Furey: Yeah. [23:25] Portia Pendleton: And I'm just like, what is the skill again? Is it intentional? Is it not? Is it to get a need met? Or is it more like sociopathic? Right. So why don't you take us through some borderline traits? [23:36] Dr. Katrina Furey: Yeah, I think I always struggle to explain borderline personality traits or disorder to sort of like people not in the mental health field because I think it's complicated. But the way we think about in the field, personality disorders are persistent ways of relating to ourselves and other people in behaving and interacting with others that sort of become apparent. These patterns become apparent by early adulthood and persist. So these aren't maladaptive ways of coping that only come out when you're under severe distress or really depressed or having a psychotic episode or things like that. This is more like a pattern of relating to people that persist sort of in all your relationships and over the course of your life. So for borderline personality disorder in particular, it's defined as a pervasive pattern of instability in interpersonal relationships, self image and affects, which is like, the way people express their mood. So sort of like the way your face looks, the way how loud you're talking, if you're crying or not. That sort of thing. Along with market impulsivity beginning by early adulthood, present in a variety of contexts with five or more of the following symptoms frantic efforts to avoid real or imagined abandonment which don't include things like suicidal gestures or self injurious behavior like cutting. That's another diagnostic criteria. A pattern of unstable and intense interpersonal relationships characterized by alternating between extremes of idealization and devaluation. I saw that a lot with Bob really idealizing Dr. Marvin, like, to everyone around him. [25:25] Portia Pendleton: I didn't really see devaluation. [25:28] Dr. Katrina Furey: I guess I did when he briefly spoke of his old therapist, okay, he ran through he's had several. Sometimes when patients come to us and they've been in treatment with someone else for a while, there is this period of mourning or sort of comparing you to them, trying to get a feel for just get a feel for a new relationship. You don't often just like 100% dive in right away. That's sort of more in line with personality characteristics like this identity disturbance, unstable self image or sense of self impulsivity in at least two areas that are potentially self damaging, like spending sex, substance abuse, reckless driving or binge eating, recurrent suicidal behavior, gestures or threats, and or self injurious behaviors like cutting, affective instability. Again, that's like your emotional reaction. So sort of swinging really quickly from one pole of emotions like on the happiness positive side, to the negative pull of emotions like the sadness anger side. And oftentimes these mood swings are really intense, can have some sadness, irritability, anxiety, but they only last from like a few hours to a few days. So that's what's different about borderline personality disorder compared to things like bipolar disorder is those mood swings in bipolar disorder also go along with changes in your behavior, the way you think, the way you speak that last for much longer and don't so quickly turn on and off. And then the last couple of diagnostic criteria are chronic feelings of emptiness and inappropriate intense anger or difficulty controlling your anger, like with frequent verbal outbursts, recurrent physical altercations, and lastly, transient stress related paranoid thoughts or severe dissociative symptoms in the most severe cases. I don't think Bob displays all of these characteristics, but I think certainly this fear of abandonment is evident like right from the get go. It's interesting to me that he didn't feel abandoned by his old therapist. Maybe that's because he's so quickly attached. [27:41] Portia Pendleton: And idealized like he might have behind the scenes. [27:44] Dr. Katrina Furey: True. [27:45] Portia Pendleton: Until then, he was connected with to this new person. [27:48] Dr. Katrina Furey: I mean, the fact that he follows him to the lake, some might call that stalking. I always wonder why didn't Dr. Marvin call the police at some point and the whole faking his suicide to manipulate the poor woman who is covering the phone to give him the address. [28:07] Portia Pendleton: But like really clever. Really clever. [28:10] Dr. Katrina Furey: And then at the end, he even boosts her ego, right, by saying like, oh, Bob did say he loved I forget her name. He loved Loretta or whatever her name was. She was so nice. Can we he knows what to say to get you to do what he needs you to do for him. And again, that is manipulative. And we do see that in all sorts of different patients to get their needs met. [28:33] Portia Pendleton: Sure. I mean, I think why we typically don't diagnose any personality disorders really until we like to kind of wait until early, after 18 is because there's a lot of, you know, a lot of teen behavior. Is that our borderline symptoms. [28:49] Dr. Katrina Furey: Right. [28:50] Portia Pendleton: So, like, really having trouble regulating your emotions, difficulty with interpersonal relationships, impulsivity. [28:58] Dr. Katrina Furey: It's like, all of that has to. [28:59] Portia Pendleton: Do so much with your brain not being developed all the way. [29:01] Dr. Katrina Furey: Yeah. [29:02] Portia Pendleton: And learning. Right. All these things also really common to toddlers. Right. [29:06] Dr. Katrina Furey: This is like a toddler, but in an adult body. And you kind of think psychologically patients with personality traits like this are kind of psychologically stunted in that developmental phase. And why is a good question. Like most things, we think of it as a combo of genetics and environmental factors. But a lot of people with personality traits like this do have pretty significant trauma history, especially in childhood. I really wondered about Bob's history. I wish we had learned anything about it. [29:37] Portia Pendleton: Yeah. I'd like to know more about his relationship with his ex wife. How long were they together? What did their relationship look like? [29:45] Dr. Katrina Furey: And was it really, in his mind, the Neil Diamond thing? Like, did he idealize her until then? And then was like, oh, we can't come back from this. I could see that with Bob. [29:54] Portia Pendleton: And again, I'd say, not that there's true or false borderline but I think people can have traits at points of time or can demonstrate traits in extreme times of stress 100%. But this is all day, kind of every day in situations where the reaction that they're presenting with is inappropriate. Right. [30:19] Dr. Katrina Furey: I think that reminds me one time in my training, nancy McWilliams came and gave a big talk and she is a wonderful author. I don't know if you've read any of her work, but she writes a lot about personality development. And, like, in our first year of residency, we all read her book because it outlines all the different personality disorders and the common defense mechanisms you see with them really well. And I think we all felt a little relieved when she said something like, we all get a little borderline if we're under enough stress. I think everyone was like, oh, okay. Yeah, we do. But, yeah, a lot of other things can also look like this. Like trauma. I mean, a lot of people who have been traumatized or especially grow up in chaotic environments learn how to manipulate to survive and get what they want or have a really severe fear of abandonment. We can see these other things. And again, I don't think he met the full criteria. I was also wondering about, like, a dependent personality disorder. Someone who, again, feels so dependent on their therapist or their primary attachment figure and it's almost like their own self disappears if they're not around this person. Right. Yeah. [31:37] Portia Pendleton: I think that it's a good movie that many programs have you analyzed because I think it isn't super clear. So you can kind of take different ways of thinking about how he presents. [31:56] Dr. Katrina Furey: Eventually. Unfortunately, Bob does kind of drive his psychiatrist mad. I. Mean, he gets to the point where he like ties him up in the woods and wants to kill him. And I was like, Whoa, that's intense. But he also tries to drop him off at a psychiatric unit and like sign him in and the staff there were like, well, you know, we're going to have to agree with you. We're not just going to sign someone in. And he felt so confident they'd all see what he was seeing and then they didn't. [32:21] Portia Pendleton: I know, what a talent for splitting, right? [32:26] Dr. Katrina Furey: But I thought it was interesting when Dr. Marvin was there like totally aghast that he called him a narcissist and a sociopath rather than borderline or dependent personality. I thought that was interesting. Did you catch that or what do you think about that? [32:40] Portia Pendleton: I think it was almost like Dr. Marvin, I don't know, like wanting to make it as severe as it possibly right. Like and you know, again, I think Bob does demonstrate some traits right, of of a lot of things. So you know, I think Dr. Marvin was just like, what do you mean? Bob is in there holding court, making. [33:03] Dr. Katrina Furey: Everybody laugh, telling jokes with mental health focus that are like offensive. [33:09] Portia Pendleton: I think Marvin or Leo was just kind of like shocked and reached but. [33:14] Dr. Katrina Furey: Then it's also like as soon as Bob showed up at Lake Winnipesaki, no more treatment relationship. Like now it is over. It's over. Right. [33:26] Portia Pendleton: But he could see Dr. Marvin kind of started with a really firm boundary and then it's like Bob push and he pushed hard. That's a fact. It was very annoying. He was very pushy. He was very, well, if you just do this for me, I'll leave. And finally I think Leah was like, okay, sure, right. [33:50] Dr. Katrina Furey: And I think again, him being an older psychiatrist who's written a book, you think he's seasoned. He's been around the block. Again, I think goes to show that patients with personality traits like this can sort of manipulate and push even the most seasoned professional. Sure. And it is sort of like this boundary nudging over and over and over and you could tell there were points where Leo thought like, okay, fine, if I call you at four then you'll leave me alone. But I think that's a risk. And again, that's why boundaries are so important to maintain right from the get go, to not give that message like. [34:29] Portia Pendleton: Oh, I can get you, and picking up early on things that are red flag. I mean, red flag. [34:36] Dr. Katrina Furey: Can I call you Leo, Dr. Marvin like right away you're asking about your family or all of it was right away. And again, there wouldn't be a movie if Dr. Marvin had said, no, this isn't a good fit. But at any point he could have. [34:50] Portia Pendleton: What did you think about that couple I love they were such a fun addition in the diner who were really getting it they do not like, Dr. Marvin. [35:00] Dr. Katrina Furey: Sounds like he stole their dream house from them. And so this was finally like their. [35:04] Portia Pendleton: Payback from New York. [35:06] Dr. Katrina Furey: So this was finally their payback. But I did love how they dropped. [35:09] Portia Pendleton: Him off, but they were just like, hey, Dr. Marvin. [35:12] Dr. Katrina Furey: Oh, I know where he lives. [35:13] Portia Pendleton: I'll take you right there. They knew that that was inappropriate. They were like, Ha. [35:18] Dr. Katrina Furey: I thought that was a really funny detail. I loved when Dr. Marvin was trying to encourage Bob to pick a vacation from his series, and then he shows up the next day in his shirt. That's like, don't hassle me, I'm on vacation. Right? [35:36] Portia Pendleton: He almost takes things too literally at times, right. With the baby step. [35:41] Dr. Katrina Furey: It's so concrete, I guess. So primitive, right? [35:43] Portia Pendleton: Which then is like, so you makes me think, okay, so he really doesn't have the awareness, but then he does things and I'm like, whoa, what you're doing here? [35:51] Dr. Katrina Furey: Right? [35:53] Portia Pendleton: That's where I'm just kind of left confused on this presentation, right? [35:57] Dr. Katrina Furey: 100%. I thought it was really fascinating how they depicted Bob being able to connect with Leo's kids in a way that Leo couldn't. And I think there is this stereotype or joke, I guess, in the mental health field that maybe your kids will have that you'll always be analyzing them so then they won't open up to you. And they sort of depicted that in a funny way. But I think we're all kind of fearful of actually happening. [36:30] Portia Pendleton: Well, when he uses the puppet of the daughter oh, my gosh. In public. I know his daughter is older. I could see again, therapy. And we use dolls and that's something that I no longer do, but it was definitely useful. And that might thing that we would encourage a parent to do when they are a child inside their home, not in a public place. [36:57] Dr. Katrina Furey: When you're just having dolls in his pocket, right? Like, he's just carrying those dolls around, waiting, and they look like them. So creepy. [37:05] Portia Pendleton: It was just so weird. [37:06] Dr. Katrina Furey: Oh my God. Like, so creepy. Portia, if a weird, creepy doll ever shows up on your doorstep, it's from me. [37:15] Portia Pendleton: That's good to know because I would probably have some panic. Yeah, I'd have some panic around it. [37:20] Dr. Katrina Furey: But then that and when he brought Siggy, I couldn't get over his kid's name. It just was like, oh my God. And that's where his wife's so sweet, but you don't intervene and be like, this is too far. Now you're idealizing Freud. Like, this is where you are. But bringing his son out to teach him to dive, and he's like, this is so important to me. I have my big interview tomorrow. I have a lot to prepare, but I am carving out time for you. And you know, like, in his head he's thinking, so you better be grateful and dive. You better do it. [37:48] Portia Pendleton: And then you got pressure, right? I think the intention and maybe not, but the intention is like, I want you to know that this is important to me, but it's like the delivery made it really bad and seem like we got to get this done. I have all these other things that are more important, and you better perform. [38:07] Dr. Katrina Furey: The way I want you to. It's a very narcissistic thing to say. And that's when Bob helps him learn to dive. I was just like there were points like that where it was like, does Bob know what he's doing? And then the other scene for me was when his wife invites him for dinner and he keeps making all these moaning, oh, my God. [38:26] Portia Pendleton: Noises. I felt so uncomfortable. [38:28] Dr. Katrina Furey: I know about how good the food is, but then it's also kind of sexual. And he's, like, really complimenting his wife and he asks for more chicken and she gives him the breast piece. And that's where someone asks if Leo wants it. And he's like, no, that's okay. But there were just all these sexual innuendos, and it was like, is that where he knows what he's doing? He's really, like, getting one over. [38:53] Portia Pendleton: I also felt that or was maybe I didn't feel it. Maybe I was nervous that I was going to feel that with his daughter. [38:59] Dr. Katrina Furey: Yeah, right. [39:01] Portia Pendleton: She kicked him on the cheek. I just felt like there was a little flare of inappropriateness there besides yes, the boundary issue inappropriate, but there was like a little extra, too, of like, maybe some teenage daughter. [39:17] Dr. Katrina Furey: I felt so uncomfortable when he was wearing Leo's pajamas and in his son's room. I was like and then we learned that Siggy is like this deep soul who's so preoccupied with the purpose of life and we're all going to die and all these things, but yeah, gosh, I can't imagine what I'd feel like if a patient showed up on my family vacation. Yeah, not good. [39:45] Portia Pendleton: No, I mean and even on accident, like, I you know, and again, like, we are human. And like, if you practice within an hour radius of where you live, like, you're going to see people run into people, whether it's on a playground or at a grocery store or in some way at a doctor's office. And it just so many therapists joke about just put your hat on and go about your day. But also it's kind of like when you're little and you see your teacher. [40:13] Dr. Katrina Furey: Out, you're like you exist outside the. [40:15] Portia Pendleton: Confines of the class. [40:16] Dr. Katrina Furey: Exactly. You're a real person. What are you doing? [40:19] Portia Pendleton: And we do so I think if you saw a patient who did not follow you, if you saw a patient on vacation, you acknowledge it. If they do, maybe you're a little uncomfortable, but you get over it and don't do anything wildly inappropriate in public. [40:33] Dr. Katrina Furey: Right? Yeah, but if they just show up I'm realizing push. A lot of our early episodes are about stalking. I feel like we could analyze that in ourselves. [40:44] Portia Pendleton: I was feeling like he was stalking him. I mean, regardless of the need, regardless of how it relates to whatever diagnosis it feels like stalking. And stalking is scary. [40:57] Dr. Katrina Furey: It's scary. So again, I was like Liam Arbor again, there wouldn't be a movie if he got a protective order and things like that. And then at the end, when he. [41:07] Portia Pendleton: Marries oh, my gosh. And becomes a therapist oh, gosh. [41:11] Dr. Katrina Furey: And writes a book. Death Therapy. [41:14] Portia Pendleton: And Leo suits them. And Leo is just like right. Like a nonverbal brought to the wedding. [41:21] Dr. Katrina Furey: So, like catatonic, basically. [41:23] Portia Pendleton: And it's like, did bob? Is it possible? And I guess it is in the movies that one person can really drive you mad and disrupt your whole world sense of self, everything. [41:36] Dr. Katrina Furey: I know. [41:37] Portia Pendleton: And I guess in this movie it happened. [41:39] Dr. Katrina Furey: I know we talked a little bit. [41:43] Portia Pendleton: About some of the stuff in the office. Obviously, potentially getting a protective order. What are other steps maybe you would take that Dr. Marvin did not with Leah or Bob showing up on the vacation. [41:56] Dr. Katrina Furey: Oh, my God. I mean, for me, it wouldn't even get there because I don't think I'd take on, like, the whole referral phone call would go very differently. Oh, my God, you're showing up on vacation. I feel like I would call the police. That's what I would do. [42:11] Portia Pendleton: Yeah. [42:11] Dr. Katrina Furey: I'd be really scared. Yeah. Especially if my kids were there. Yeah. I don't think there's any coming back from that. I don't think there's any. And I thought, like, when he first called and pretended to be the sister again how did he know he had a sister? I don't know. Sometimes you just get a sister or brother. And I guess he was right. That, for me, would have been grounds to stop. I mean, there was a lot of grounds to stop. But that, for me, would have been that deception and lying. And I thought what Leo said to him actually was really sound like the therapeutic relationship is based in trust. If you lie to get to me, I can't trust you. But it just escalated him. [42:53] Portia Pendleton: It seemed like in the movie and it is a movie there was nothing that Leo could have done besides not take him on to kind of stop him. At that point. They had already kind of developed this relationship because he did say that. And I thought that was a really good way to put it. I think he was, again, like a firm initially. Firm initially. Firm initially. And then Bob kept pushing, pushing, pushing and then would get wanted. And then kind of learned that he learned how to manipulate Leo with his using his family kind of other tactics. [43:27] Dr. Katrina Furey: Right. And the suicide thing is also really striking, I thought. Again, it's a movie but someone calls him in the middle of the night to tell him he's committed suicide and he has like 1 second of feelings about it and then it's like I don't want to let it ruin my vacation. I feel like if that were to happen in real life you'd be distraught to hear something like that. But it's a movie. But again so I think all the more why it was so shocking when all of a sudden he was there and he just like gets off the bus and starts shouting his name with the fish. With the fish. I know. The fish I found really interesting as this attachment but then it went away. Right. [44:11] Portia Pendleton: He was a strong attachment only friend. Whatever he brings with him, he then takes care of. He then leaves at the house, he. [44:19] Dr. Katrina Furey: Comes back for it. [44:20] Portia Pendleton: But then after that we don't see. [44:22] Dr. Katrina Furey: It as much the fish anymore. [44:23] Portia Pendleton: And I'm wondering is that because he developed this attached he doesn't need the fish anymore? Now he's a whole new family, right? [44:29] Dr. Katrina Furey: I think so. I think in his mind he really does move on that quickly. Yeah, I think so. [44:37] Portia Pendleton: How did you feel watching the movie? [44:39] Dr. Katrina Furey: Nervous. [44:40] Portia Pendleton: Yeah, nervous. [44:41] Dr. Katrina Furey: I mean there are funny parts like Bill Murray's hilarious. All of the actors and actresses did a really good job in their roles. Like I thought it was an enjoyable movie. I think it's hard to watch as a psychiatrist. [44:53] Portia Pendleton: I agree. [44:54] Dr. Katrina Furey: I think it'd be just funny maybe if I was not in this field. But I think having interacted with patients who suffer from whether it's borderline personality disorder or some other trauma or I guess you could just call it interpersonal difficulties, it really did speak to the dynamics of that. And when you have someone who's really struggling on an impatient unit and the whole staff's riled up right, like half of them in a positive way, strong feelings of affection like the whole team when Bob's cracking jokes and then the other half in a negative way who are on the negative side of the split. So I think that was hard to watch but again, depicted in such an on the nose but right way and. [45:42] Portia Pendleton: I think that's where a patient can present very differently. [45:47] Dr. Katrina Furey: Right. [45:47] Portia Pendleton: So I think if a patient who has a personality disorder maybe specific to something like borderline presents to you and you are on their quote unquote good side, they are an entirely different patient. And I think you might not even know that there's all of this other stuff going on and sometimes all of a sudden it comes out and you're like wow, shocked. Or kind of rethinking the treatment plan, rethinking everything. But I think that just speaks to how pervasive it is. It's also not an act, it's who they are presenting to you and then something kind of might trigger them to. [46:22] Dr. Katrina Furey: Change the often like a feeling of rejection or fear of abandonment. Again, that's where having a really good quality group team is really important, I think, in treating patients with Bpd. Yeah. And things like DBT, like we've talked about, can be really helpful, but it's hard to do on your own. [46:42] Portia Pendleton: No, totally. And I think it's hard to have support and access good treatment for Bpd. I mean, I think we've talked about medications for it. It's really hard to treat in the sense that there's no pill that's going to make it better. There's medications that can help symptoms that, you know, and then it's a lot of work, and it's a really, really it is. [47:08] Dr. Katrina Furey: Because, again, it's not just again, you're totally right. Portia the medications. There isn't, like, one medicine for borderline personality disorder. Oftentimes you're providing medications to provide symptom relief, whether that's depression, anxiety, insomnia, it could be different things for different people. And then the therapy is what I really think is at the crux of the treatment. But you have to be in a stable enough place to do the therapy, and you have to feel a sense of trust, and that's really hard. A lot of patients with these traits have been really burned. They've either lived through really traumatic things, or they have had a hard time maintaining relationships. Right. [47:48] Portia Pendleton: Yeah. So it's not an easy disorder to experience, and it's not an easy disorder to treat. [47:55] Dr. Katrina Furey: Right. But there is treatment out there, and people do get better. And I have been impressed and happy to see more and more people talking about having this. I remember the football player from a couple of years ago. Yeah. Pete Davidson came out about it. Selena Gomez has talked about how helpful she found DBT. I don't think she's ever mentioned if she's been diagnosed with this or not. Again, she does not have to. That's her personal health information. But I think by just destigmatizing, it can be really helpful. And the woman, Marsha Linihan, who pioneered DBT, has been very open about having borderline personality disorder herself, I believe. So. Again, I find a lot of the professionals in the community who work with these patients have a personal or family connection, and they get it. That's kind of why they're invested in this type of work, so you can learn how to regulate and interact with people in a way that can lead to a more meaningful life. Unfortunately, that did not happen for Bob or Leo. [49:01] Portia Pendleton: Yeah. I felt, I think, very similarly to you. I really struggled to find any of it funny. I was, like, horrified. I was stressed. I was anxious. I felt empathy at the end a lot for Leo and just, like, his, I don't know, predicament. [49:23] Dr. Katrina Furey: So I've noticed every time I've watched this movie, I think I've seen it three times. I'm engaged at the beginning. As soon as he shows up at Winniposaki, I start cleaning or going on my phone. And then by the end, I'm always more on my phone than engaged. And now as we're talking about it. I think that just reflects how uncomfortable I feel that I'm having to disengage as it gets more and more intense. [49:46] Portia Pendleton: Yeah, I agree, because I think I was talking to my partner about the movie. He had seen it years and years ago and he was like, oh, it's so funny. And then he was coming in here and there watching clips of it and laughing, and I was just like stone face sitting there so uncomfortable. And I was like, that should never happen, and pointing all these things out. And he's enjoying the movie because it's ridiculous. It is, at the end of the day, a comedy. It's funny, it's silly, it's not supposed. [50:14] Dr. Katrina Furey: To be, but I think there's such a thread of truth to it that it's terrifying. Yeah, that was a good one. [50:24] Portia Pendleton: Yeah. I'm, like ready to watch something light hearted that's light and not going to make me kind of stay up at night. [50:32] Dr. Katrina Furey: There you go. Well, I think next time we're going to be talking about encanto and we'll have our very first guest host, one of my former colleagues from residency, Dr. Christina Aradondo. That's a little lighter. Hopefully it doesn't keep you up in. [50:48] Portia Pendleton: The it was a great movie. I'm excited for our listeners to hear that podcast. Our guest is really very highly intelligent, knowledgeable, and was really lovely to talk to. [50:59] Dr. Katrina Furey: She was. [51:00] Portia Pendleton: Yeah. [51:01] Dr. Katrina Furey: All right, guys. Well, like always, don't forget to rate, review, subscribe, and share with your friends and family near and far. And I guess we will see you next time. Yeah, thanks. [51:11] Portia Pendleton: Bye. [51:19] Dr. Katrina Furey: This podcast and its contents are a copyright of analyzed scripts, all rights reserved. Any redistribution or reproduction of part or all of the contents in any form is prohibited. Unless you want to share it with your friends and rate, review and subscribe, that's fine. All stories and characters discussed are fictional in nature. No identification with actual persons, living or deceased places, buildings, or products is intended or should be inferred. This podcast is for entertainment purposes only. 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Chapter 337 - "Science Fiction Is A Great Vehicle For Exploring Human Condition" ...as read by Jason Wisdom of Becoming the ArchetypeToday we welcome back, for the 5th time, Jason Wisdom from Becoming the Archetype and Death Therapy! Becoming The Archetype recently released Children of the Great Extinction on Solid State Records. It's their first new record in ten years and the first record with Jason on vocals since 2011's Celestial Completion. Jason and I chat about Georgia sports, Death Therapy moving away from the heavy music space, the return of Becoming the Archetype and the inspiration for the concept of Children of the Great Extinction. Both vinyl variants and the cd are sold out but you can snag a digital copy of Children of the Great Extinction at https://solidstate.merchnow.com/collections/becoming-the-archetypeChapter 337 Music:Becoming the Archetype - "The Dead World"Becoming the Archetype - "The Lost Colony"Becoming the Archetype - "The Hollow"Becoming the Archetype - "The Sacrament"---As The Story Grows links:​Help out at PatreonATSG WebsiteATSG Music and MerchJoin the Email ListATSG FacebookEmail: asthestorygrows@gmail.comYouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNuP0_JUpT6DoIhhbGlwEYA?view_as=subscriber 

Jason Wisdom is the front man, vocalist, and bassist for the band Becoming the Archetype as well as the band Death Therapy. He's an incredible musician, lover of metal, and super down to earth guy. Join us on this episode as discuss the new record from Becoming the Archetype, his love for obscure live Billy Joel recordings, and the simplicity he's found with this band Death Therapy. Jason Wisdom - Vocal, Bassist, Songwriter Social Media - @becomingthearchetype @deaththerapy Buy Becoming the Archetype on Vinyl: https://solidstate.merchnow.com/products/bta0ctgeae-lp Buy Death Therapy on Vinyl: https://toothandnailrecords.merchnow.com/products/dtthmcmard-lp?_pos=1&_psq=death+therap&_ss=e&_v=1.0 Artists we discuss in the show: Becoming the Archetype Death Therapy Jack White Garth Brooks MxPx Five Iron Frenzy OC Supertones Rage Against the Machine POD Linkin Park Project 86 Living Sacrifice Dream Theater Zao Symphony X King's X Royal Blood Death from Above 1979 Ghost Dirty Honey Andrew Peterson Classless Act Billy Joel MyFi Podcast Website - www.myfipodcast.com Social Media - @myfipodcast MyFi Stinger Music by Cure Audio @cureaudioco ©2022 MyFiPodcast

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Today we spend some time with Jason from Death Therapy to talk about our favorite new song "Tension" and find out who provided the climactic "woo!" We also try to wrap our heads around the potential European sausage wars, get details on the new Battlefield 2042, and learn about a beer brewed in the Stanley Cup.

Jason Wisdom of Death Therapy stops by to talk about his newly released singles from his upcoming album “Melancholy Machines.”  The Tooth and Nail genre-bending album will be released on June 4, 2021.  The songs “Tension” and “Familiar Shadows” from Jason, formally of Becoming the Archetype, are unique and bold offerings. Monday on Backstage With Mothership he will tell us more about the songs and the album.Support the show (https://www.solidrockradio.org/donate/)

Cullen and Mason chat with Jason Wisdom from Death Therapy. They chat about Death Therapy's new album, the state of the music industry, and much more.Check out our partner HM Magazine: hmmagazine.comFollow us on Instagram: instagram.com/theblacksheeppodcast

It’s no secret that we love Living Sacrifice here at Discography Discussion.  In the spirit of finding a reason to constantly bring up this band we decided to revisit them with a fresh set of ears.  Jon Beatty joins the podcast while delivering his own brand of hot takes.  This episode was recorded live on our twitch channel, and there will be more to come.  Strap in, make some popcorn, and get ready for us to tell you exactly why you should be listening to Living Sacrifice. #discussmetal #LivingSacrifice Join our Patreon: Discography Discussion on Patreon - http://bit.ly/discussmetalpatreonDiscography Discussion Podcast Homepage - http://bit.ly/DiscographyDiscussionSubscribe to RSS - https://podcast.discussmetal.com/feedBuy a Shirt on Teespring! - http://bit.ly/DDTeeSpringJoin the conversation on Discord - http://bit.ly/discussmetalDiscordFacebook - https://www.facebook.com/DiscographydiscussionTwitter - https://twitter.com/discussmetalInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/discography_discussion Listen to Discography Discussion on Spotify - http://bit.ly/discussmetalspotifyDiscography Discussion on Apple Podcasts/iTunes - http://bit.ly/discussmetalitunesDiscography Discussion on Google Play - http://bit.ly/discussmetalgoogleplayListen on Stitcher - http://bit.ly/discussmetalstitcherListen on iHeartRadio - http://bit.ly/DDiHeartRadioWatch/Listen on Youtube - http://bit.ly/discussmetalyoutubeListen on TuneIn - http://bit.ly/discussmetaltunein Questions? Comments? Suggestions? Submit a band request Here - http://bit.ly/DDBandSuggestionsEmail: danandjoeshow@gmail.comwww.discussmetal.com Album of the weekDan - The Burial “Lights and Perfections”Joe - Motorhead “March Or Die”Jon - Marilyn Manson “The Golden Age Of Grotesque” Media Mentioned In This Episode:Episode 164: Obituary - http://bit.ly/DDPodcast164Episode 039: Living Sacrifice featuring Jason Wisdom of Death Therapy - http://bit.ly/DDLivingSacrifice

After a couple of months off, we're back with our first interview of 2021. Lazarus Complex play an explosive combination of death metal and hardcore that even goes as far as peppering in some progressive metal influences to keep things fresh. The band is made up vocalist / lyricist / bassist Jake Schultheis and guitarist / drummer / bassist Joe Murphy and our based out of Massachusetts and New Jersey. Their latest single, "The Redeemer," caught my attention after I noticed Jason Wisdom of Death Therapy and Becoming the Archetype did guest vocals for the track. Being a big fan of Jason and his bands, I gave the song a listen and discovered there was more to this duo than just a special guest vocalist. They deliver a bludgeoning dose of extreme metal that fans of Impending Doom, early Embodyment, Whitechapel, and Thy Art is Murder will immediately latch on to. I had the opportunity to chat with both Jake and Joe from Lazarus Complex recently. Guess what we talked about? If you said movies, music, and more, then you would be correct. Who are there favorite music artists? What superheroes excite and inspire them? These questions and more are answered in the interview. You can get more info about Lazarus Complex on their official Facebook page. Be sure to visit www.moviesmusicmore.com for the latest entertainment news.

It's another unscripted, wholly organic episode of the show. Didn't get enough talk about Animal Crossing: New Horizons? Want to know what shows the hosts are currently watching? T'Challa again joins in and asks his uniquely thought-provoking questions. And just when you thought you'd heard it all, Barry provides a mental picture that LaToya can't erase. 

Death, you have no power here! Though there's plenty of pages left in the book of John, Jesus seems to be tempting fate by traveling into hostile territory and pulling off His most impressive miracle yet. In our discussion of Chapter 11, we discuss The Prince of Egypt, resurrection vs. resuscitation, the power behind Jesus' emotions, and more! As an added bonus, we have a small existential meltdown as a result of the revelation we have about an oft-overlooked detail about Doubting(?) Thomas. Enjoy! Reach out to us at podcast.crosstraining@gmail.com with any questions, comments, or suggestions of what you'd like to hear from us next. Also, you can join the discussion here: Facebook Instagram Twitter Thanks for listening!

We were honoured to have Jason Wisdom on our podcast last month. Join us for conversations on the latest Death Therapy EP & Dance Therapy: Pre Apocalyptic Cyber Funk For Late Stage Humanoids and his new hardcore / metalcore project called The Reversalist, as well as Jason's take on the good, the bad and the interesting trends of the Christian metal scene from the early 2000s until now! You'll hear some great stories involving many of your favorite metal and hardcore bands from the scene(both past and present), the process of recording the eponymous Becoming the Archetype album “Dichotomy” with Devin Townsend, and even a few fan-submitted questions as well. Track-list:1) Death Therapy – “Resist the Eclipse”2) The Reversalist – “Broken Crown”3) Death Therapy – “Terra Firma” (feat. Jack Daniels of War of Ages / Hope for the Dying)”

The Mosh Zone Episode #134. This week we chat with Jason of Death Therapy, ex-Becoming The Archetype about discovering his passion for guitar, being a man of faith, the imprint BTA made, reflecting on when faith metal bands were heavily involved in the scene, why we don't see many faith metal bands now, the bands discography, leaving BTA, Death Therapy being a 2 piece band, translating it into a live setting, the industry and much more!!

Atlanta native, Jason Wisdom of Death Therapy will join me Monday to talk about industrial groove metal, what the band is all about, the meaning behind the music, and a story or two. Support the show (https://www.solidrockradio.org/donate/)

Jason Wisdom is the bassist/vocalist for the progressive metal band Death Therapy on Solid State Records. Prior to forming Death Therapy, Jason was the lead vocalist for legendary technical death metal band Becoming The Archetype.  In this episode, Jason discusses the creative process, thinking outside the box, and his most recent release, "Dance Therapy Part I: Pre-Apocalyptic Cyber Funk For Late Stage Humanoids."   NOTE: In this episode, we reference Lifest 2020, which was set to take place in August 2020. It has since been postponed to July 2021 due to COVID-19.   Listen to Death Therapy: https://open.spotify.com/artist/2Prk8CqlCnhHCQ2nGK2kZo   Death Therapy Merch: https://merchnow.com/catalogs/death-therapy   Follow Death Therapy:   Twitter: https://twitter.com/myDeathTherapy   Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/deaththerapy/   Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/deaththerapy/   Thank you for listening to The American Arson Podcast. If you enjoyed this episode, please consider leaving a positive comment or review.  You can also access video episodes of the podcast on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/americanarson   Check out American Arson here:   Merch: https://facedown.merchnow.com/catalogs/American-Arson   Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/7cl9j0U54gBxbcGO7zXXs2   Apple Music: https://music.apple.com/us/artist/american-arson/893705582   Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/americanarson   Twitter: https://twitter.com/americanarson   Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/americanarson/   Website: https://www.americanarson.com/

Jason Wisdom of Death Therapy joins the podcast to talk about his new instrumental EP, the struggles of releasing music during a pandemic, the importance of social media, and video games! Don’t miss it! #discussmetal Check out all things Death Therapy at https://deaththerapy.bigcartel.com && https://www.facebook.com/deaththerapy Join our Patreon: Discography Discussion on Patreon - http://bit.ly/discussmetalpatreonDiscography Discussion Podcast Homepage - http://bit.ly/DiscographyDiscussionSubscribe to RSS - https://podcast.discussmetal.com/feedBuy a Shirt on Teespring! - http://bit.ly/DDTeeSpring Listen to Discography Discussion on Spotify - http://bit.ly/discussmetalspotifyDiscography Discussion on Apple Podcasts/iTunes - http://bit.ly/discussmetalitunesDiscography Discussion on Google Play - http://bit.ly/discussmetalgoogleplayListen on Stitcher - http://bit.ly/discussmetalstitcherListen on iHeartRadio - http://bit.ly/DDiHeartRadioWatch/Listen on Youtube - http://bit.ly/discussmetalyoutubeListen on TuneIn - http://bit.ly/discussmetaltunein Join the conversation on Discord - http://bit.ly/discussmetalDiscordFacebook - https://www.facebook.com/DiscographydiscussionTwitter - https://twitter.com/discussmetalInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/discography_discussionTumblr - https://danandjoeshow.tumblr.com Questions? Comments? Suggestions? Submit a band request Here - http://bit.ly/DDBandSuggestionsEmail: danandjoeshow@gmail.comwww.discussmetal.com

For years Jason Wisdom has been tearing up the Christian metal music scene. From his previous band Becoming the Archetype to his current band Death Therapy, Jason has toured the world and now brings some of his most interesting stories to our podcast. Tune in as Jason tells us about himself, his music, and what Taylor Swift song he would be based on his personality. This is an episode you do not want to miss! --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app

Chapter 195 - "Here's What Death Therapy Can Do Uniquely" ...as read by Jason Wisdom of Death TherapyJason joins the show for a fourth time to give an update on Death Therapy. Jason talks about the differences between Voices and The Storm Before The Calm, plus the two eps and book  he's currently working on. Support Jason's new endeavors - https://deaththerapy.bigcartel.com/ Jason's First Time on ATSG - https://www.asthestorygrows.com/episodes/e4b19f71Second - https://www.asthestorygrows.com/episodes/63e04c81Third - https://www.asthestorygrows.com/episodes/00c60c70----------Chapter 195 Music:Death Therapy - "My Defiance"Death Therapy - "It's Okay"Death Therapy - "The Belmont Family Curse (part 2)"Death Therapy - "Feels Like Fiction"Death Therapy - "The Instability of Proto Man"Death Therapy - "Darkening Counsel"---As The Story Grows links:​Help out at PatreonATSG WebsiteATSG Music and MerchJoin the Email ListATSG FacebookEmail: asthestorygrows@gmail.com 

Clinton and Nathan are joined by Terrisa Bukovinac of Pro-Life San Francisco to talk about her efforts to make the Democrat party more pro-life and to talk about David Daleiden and the legal issues he's been facing from his undercover sting operation against Planned Parenthood. The song at the end of the podcast is The Instability of Protoman, by Death Therapy. To purchase Death Therapy's music, you can use this link: https://solidstate.lnk.to/VOICES?fbclid=IwAR06Q9Y4JVLsskjtHWbFghY67e_Wh8CNzaqRtJQaSzCA3XSGldSpuwg1giA

Jason from Death Therapy stops by today to talk beards and Bill Murray movies! Also, find out why we are so excited for the G-Mail update and what movie is breaking records on Netflix.

Learn how making connections can help support artists. Plus learn about some worthwhile active crowdfunding campaigns in the world of faith-inspired music. ---------- SPOTLIGHT CAMPAIGN ----------- * Folk Hymnal Incarnation Songs vol 2 & Good News Songs - https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/951036069/tim-briggs-and-folk-hymnal-are-making-some-new-music ----------- OTHER CAMPAIGNS ----------- * Jeff Anderson - All Things New - https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/all-things-new-new-album-from-jeff-anderson * Brandyn Bettis - Victory - https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/brandynbettismusic/victoryworking-title-a-worship-album * Ghost Ship - To The End - https://www.ghostshipmusic.com/ * Death Therapy - https://www.gofundme.com/death-therapy-vehicle-repairs ----------------- CREDITS ----------------- * Host/Producer - Garret Godfrey * Executive Producer - Dave Trout * Other Folk Hymnal appearances: ~ https://artandfaithconversations.libsyn.com/season-4-ep3-modern-hymns-a-communal-album ~ https://www.voicesinmyheadpodcast.com/e/voices-in-my-head-podcast-episode-297-folk-hymnal-with-tim-briggs ~ https://utrmedia.org/podcasts/green-room-door-podcast * Theme music by Royalty Free Kings http://www.royaltyfreekings.com * Bumper music is "Announcement Groove" by https://seeds.churchonthemove.com/home * Twitter: https://twitter.com/goodpatron * Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/crowdfundingchristianmusic (c) 2019 UTR Media. All Rights Reserved. A 501(c)(3) non-profit ministry - more info at https://utrmedia.org

We all go through different seasons in life. Jason and Shawn breakdown how we can manage those changes. They share their top Star Wars characters in this weeks round 5. Let us know your top 5 Star Wars characters. News and Reviews (00:01-32:21) Jeremiah Bligen – Bleed (32:22-37:28) Round 5 Star Wars Characters (37:29-57:15) Reconcile […]

Host of ‘Scene Daddy Interviews,’ Ian Hates, speaks with musician Jason Wisdom of industrial groove metal band Death Therapy. In this episode, Jason discusses the new album ‘Voices’ released through Solid State Records, electronics in music, not having a guitarist in the band, and more.Listen to the full, exclusive interview

Some bands spend most of their career trying to carve out their fanbase by steadily building upon what made them a big hit in the first place. What do you do with a band like Becoming the Archetype? Dan and Joe spend the evening trying to figure out exactly who this band was for if not just for the band members themselves. #discussmetal #BecomingTheArchetype Join our Patreon: Discography Discussion on Patreon - http://bit.ly/discussmetalpatreonDiscography Discussion Podcast Homepage - http://bit.ly/DiscographyDiscussionSubscribe to RSS - http://feeds.feedburner.com/danandjoeshow Listen to Discography Discussion on Spotify - http://bit.ly/discussmetalspotifyDiscography Discussion on Apple Podcasts/iTunes - http://bit.ly/discussmetalitunesDiscography Discussion on Google Play - http://bit.ly/discussmetalgoogleplayListen on Stitcher - http://bit.ly/discussmetalstitcherWatch/Listen on Youtube - http://bit.ly/discussmetalyoutubeListen on TuneIn - http://bit.ly/discussmetaltunein Join the conversation on Discord - http://bit.ly/discussmetalDiscordFacebook - https://www.facebook.com/DiscographydiscussionTwitter - https://twitter.com/discussmetalTumblr - https://danandjoeshow.tumblr.com Questions? Comments? Suggestions? Email: danandjoeshow@gmail.comwww.discussmetal.com Media Mentioned In This Episode:Episode 039: Living Sacrifice featuring Jason Wisdom of Death Therapy - http://bit.ly/DDLivingSacrificeEpisode 068: Demon Hunter - http://bit.ly/DDDemonHunter Album of the weekDan - Demon Hunter “War” Joe - Five Iron Frezy “Five Iron Frenzy 2: Electric Boogaloo” Becoming The Archetype Episode Playlist: One Man Parade The Epigone The Great Fal Endure Mountain of Souls Artificial Immortality Path of the Beam Cardiac Rebellion The Planet Maker The Time Bender

Welcome to Episode 19 of Profiling Criminal Minds, where we find awkward departures, bad math, and Death Therapy (patent pending)! If you would like to read Count Vardulon's original reviews of each episode go to vardulon.com where you will find breakdowns of every episode of the show with additional material that focuses solely on the issue of profiling. The reviews are also available as a Kindle e-Book on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07LGGQ6P2 The Kindle version has exclusive material that is not available on the website.

Jason Wisdom of Death Therapy returns to the podcast this week. Jason and I discuss their new album "Voices". We also talk about streaming music, touring overseas and how they have added a keyboard player. Jason was great as always.I also talk about the future of the podcast.Robb Rivera gives his weekly Pick From The KitCONTACT:Email Talk Toomey Talk Toomey Facebook Talk Toomey Twitter STORE: Talk Toomey Flaming Pentagram Tee Talk Toomey Logo Tee DONATE: Patreon Paypal

Jason returns to the podcast to look at Death Therapy's brand new record Voices. Jason talks to Gabe in depth about the theme of the record, the collaborations, and the live show. Bonus Episode content, found exclusively on Patreon, includes a discussion of Anberlin's debut album AND our pick for album of the week! Support us on patreon at patreon.com/decentchristiantalk Visit us online at decentchristiantalk.com

For some reason, Ian and James have trouble speaking in this episode of Ian Hates Music, but it turns out they have a lot to speak about, like, what the fuck is going on in the scene?!?!?It’s like it’s war all of the time now.Get ready for your best weekly dose of metalcore, post-hardcore, metal, hardcore, electronicore, emo, screamo, rock, alternative, pop-punk, punk, easycore, deathcore, nu-metal, and really, all the core you could ever want!It's another FUCKING GREAT, FUCKING FREE (NSFW) episode of Ian Hates Music you say?!?! That's right! Ian and James talk your scene news from:Disrupt Festival, Static-X, and As I Lay Dying…And New Songs talk from:Bad Religion, Death Therapy, Above A Whisper, Saving Vice, Wind Walkers, Frank Carter & The Rattlesnakes, Awake At Last, The Molten Larva, Rammstein, In Her Own Words, and LIMBS!Add on album reviews from:A Wake in Providence - The Blvck Sun II The Blood Moon - Outerloop RecordsI Prevail - Trauma - Fearless RecordsWhitechapel - The Valley - Metal Blade RecordsLotus Eater - Social Hazard - Hopeless RecordsLow Dose - Low Dose - Brutal Panda RecordsHigh Rise - Endeavours - EP - Independent ReleaseA Blessing A Curse - Waste - Smartpunk RecordsBloodline - Better View - Stay Sick RecordingsPlus, stuff and/or things and maybe some more!Also, Ian has opened a Patreon to help with the costs of the many Ian Hates shows. If you have the means, please donate to keep the shows and quality going! Link below:Ian Hates PatreonAnd, Ian wants to put way more content on YouTube for everyone, so please use the link to subscribe so Ian can get a custom URL and you get even more great content:Ian Hates YouTubeDon't forget to support Ian Hates Music! Subscribe, rate, and share Ian Hates Music on iTunes, Stitcher, Google Play Music, SoundCloud, and any of your favorite podcast listening apps! Links below:Ian HatesSpotifyFacebookTwitterInstagramiTunesStitcherGoogle Play MusicSoundCloudAnd the link for Ty's Blog - Check it out!Ty Rock CityPlus Jackson has a YouTube as well - Check it out!Jackity - YouTubeAll sound bites or clips are exclusive property of their respective owners and are in no way affiliated with Ian Hates Podcast or its' sponsors. They are used here for entertainment purposes only. Enjoy!

Hopefully, not another crazy-long episode of Ian Hates Music…or is it…Get ready for your best weekly dose of metalcore, post-hardcore, metal, hardcore, electronicore, emo, screamo, rock, alternative, pop-punk, punk, easycore, deathcore, nu-metal, and really, all the core you could ever want!It's another FUCKING GREAT, FUCKING FREE (NSFW) episode of Ian Hates Music you say?!?! That's right! Ian and James talk your scene news from:Avenged Sevenfold (kinda), While She Sleeps, Randy Blythe and that shitty church, Scarlett O’Hara, and August Burns Red!And New Songs talk from:Defeater, Ringworm, Lowlife, Chokehold, Betraying the Martyrs, Good Tiger, Andy Black, Death Therapy, Heartist, and My Immortal Enemy! Add on album reviews from:Holding Absence - Holding Absence - SharpTone RecordsChildren of Bodom - Hexed - Nuclear Blast RecordsSeeYouSpaceCowboy - Songs For the Firing Squad - Pure Noise RecordsZebrahead - Brain Invaders - MFZB/Rude RecordsBlack Coast - Ill Minds Vol. 2 - EP - Primordial RecordsSavage After Midnight - 11:59 - EP - Red Music/Sony Music EntertainmentYouth Fountain - Letters to Our Former Selves - Pure Noise RecordsOur Last Night - Let Light Overcome - EP - Independent ReleasePlus, stuff and/or things and maybe some more!Also, Ian has opened a Patreon to help with the costs of the many Ian Hates shows. If you have the means, please donate to keep the shows and quality going! Link below:Ian Hates PatreonAnd, Ian wants to put way more content on YouTube for everyone, so please use the link to subscribe so Ian can get a custom URL and you get even more great content:Ian Hates YouTubeDon't forget to support Ian Hates Music! Subscribe, rate, and share Ian Hates Music on iTunes, Stitcher, Google Play Music, SoundCloud, and any of your favorite podcast listening apps! Links below:Ian HatesSpotifyFacebookTwitterInstagramiTunesStitcherGoogle Play MusicSoundCloudAnd the link for Ty's Blog - Check it out!Ty Rock CityPlus Jackson has a YouTube as well - Check it out!Jackity - YouTubeAll sound bites or clips are exclusive property of their respective owners and are in no way affiliated with Ian Hates Podcast or its' sponsors. They are used here for entertainment purposes only. Enjoy!

In this episode of The Campfire Conversationalist John And Matt talk about our conversation with Jason Wisdom from Death Therapy and Becoming The Archetype, they also talk about their favorite band and how the music trends over the 40 years have affected how some bands couldn’t make it over the years due to how fast the musical trends have changed. They also discuss Fallout 76 and talk about how John and Matt Met. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/campfiretalk/message

Death Therapy is the brain child of Jason Wisdom, who was previously the frontman of Becoming the Archetype. Death Therapy features more of an industrial electronic dark groove metal. Jason talked with us about Death Therapy's upcoming record. Glasslands is a group featuring former members of Beartooth, Icon for Hire, and Before Their Eyes. The band talks about how they got together and about their upcoming record! Don't miss our discussion about this week's flashback album of the week (Supertones' Chase the Sun) and our pick's for current album of the week exclusively in our Patreon bonus episode: https://www.patreon.com/decentchristiantalk

In this episode John and DreadMatt talk with their guest Jason Wisdom. We talk about his band Death Therapy and the band he was previously in Becoming The Archetype. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/campfiretalk/message

James makes his triumphant return to Ian Hates Music! It’s the second episode with James as co-host so the guys are still learning the rhythm of the new show, but that James guy’s got something…what do you want me to say? Just go listen already! It’s time for a fun episode!Get ready for your best weekly dose of metalcore, post-hardcore, metal, hardcore, electronicore, emo, screamo, rock, alternative, pop-punk, punk, easycore, deathcore, and really, all the core you could ever want!It's another FUCKING GREAT, FUCKING FREE (NSFW) episode of Ian Hates Music you say?!?! That's right! Ian and James talk your scene news from:Norma Jean, Michael Bohn, Northlane, The Ghost Inside, Silverstein, Bring Me The Horizon, Static-X, and From First To Last!And New Songs talk from:Reliance, Stuck Out, The Seafloor Cinema, Ocean Grove, Demon Hunter, Dealer, Like Ghosts, Youth Fountain, Alexisonfire, Spiritbox, No Home, Andy Black, Death Therapy, and Famous Last Words!Add on album reviews from:Crystal Lake - Helix - SharpTone RecordsMillencolin - SOS - Epitaph RecordsSmoke Signals - Letting Go - Independent ReleaseHappy Hour - Love Hurts - EP - Self-ReleasePlus, stuff and/or things and maybe some more!Also, Ian has opened a Patreon to help with the costs of the many Ian Hates shows. If you have the means, please donate to keep the shows and quality going! Link below:Ian Hates PatreonAnd, Ian wants to put way more content on YouTube for everyone, so please use the link to subscribe so Ian can get a custom URL and you get even more great content:Ian Hates YouTubeDon't forget to support Ian Hates Music! Subscribe, rate, and share Ian Hates Music on iTunes, Stitcher, Google Play Music, SoundCloud, and any of your favorite podcast listening apps! Links below:Ian HatesSpotifyFacebookTwitterInstagramiTunesStitcherGoogle Play MusicSoundCloudAnd the link for Ty's Blog - Check it out!Ty Rock CityPlus Jackson has a YouTube as well - Check it out!Jackity - YouTubeAll sound bites or clips are exclusive property of their respective owners and are in no way affiliated with Ian Hates Podcast or its' sponsors. They are used here for entertainment purposes only. Enjoy!

Gabe and Josiah talk with Death Therapy's Jason Wisdom about touring and about their record "The Storm before the Calm." Join our team on Patreon: patreon.com/decentchristiantalk Visit us at decentchristiantalk.com! Also available at Google Play for Android users!

Death Therapy’s Jason Wisdom talks with Gabe about the band’s new record “The Storm before the Calm”. Gabe also looks at the 20th anniversary of Supertones Strike Back as the DCT podcast flashback of the week. Visit our website: decentchristiantalk.com

You say you want a revolution?? With Mike busy in the real world, Jeremy and Danny discuss 3 vital topics. A neighborhood rises from the chains of bondage and revolution has begun! Jeremy tells his tale of two major events: a brutal, self inflicted survival trip and the long and winding road of church membership. Buckle up and bring the truth. Welcome back to Death Therapy!   Neighborhood Revolution!  Clayton Bigsby Skit Who Is America Skit  Twin Peaks Filmography Jeremy's Survival Trip Danny's post on quiet

Without their fearless leader, Jeremy and Danny navigate through heavy topics such as Minimalism, living with purpose and Facebook. Also in this fireside chat, the guys realize life without Mike is no life to live at all! Two Thirds of Death Therapy is in session! Enjoy! Jeremy's Blog Danny's Blog The Minimalists Everything That Remains book Day One App Moment App Empire of Illusion Book Delete Your Facebook!      

LET 2018 BEGIN WITH A MACHINE HEAD BLAST!! Robb Flynn of the mighty Machine Head is the guest this week. The General himself and I talk about the new album "Catharsis" and the nu album "The Burning Red". Robb also talks about taking Primer 55 on tour, his love or lost love of Star Wars and the Oakland Raiders moving to Las Vegas. Robb discusses the rap influence on Machine Head and we talk fondly of the late 90s and our silly hairdos. Robb Rivera of nonpoint makes his debut of "Robb's Pick From The Kit" on this episode with a Machine Head classic. CONTACT: Email Talk Toomey Talk Toomey Facebook Talk Toomey Twitter SPONSORS: PUCK HCKY STORE: Talk Toomey Merch Talk Toomey Logo Tee ADVERTISE: Advertisecast DONATE: Patreon Paypal

It's a full house for this episode of Discography Discussion, and the discussion is not for the faint of heart. Dan, Joe, Geoff, and Buddy become very vocal about everybody's favorite death metal band, Living Sacrifice. Also, we had some time to talk to Jason Wisdom of Death Therapy on a cold, late night. Jason, formerly of Becoming The Archetype, gave his own thoughts, and experiences with Living Sacrifice including a story of playing on stage with the band. Everyone is friends now, right? Find out on this episode of Discography Discussion. #discussmetal #LivingSacrifice #DoomhammerReturns #DeathTherapy #JasonWisdom Join our Patreon: Discography Discussion on Patreon - https://goo.gl/S7fVCcDiscography Discussion Podcast Homepage - https://goo.gl/hXMI33Subscribe to RSS - http://feeds.feedburner.com/danandjoeshowListen to Discography Discussion on iTunes - https://goo.gl/AzQ7vYDiscography Discussion on Google Play - https://goo.gl/d6czHIListen on Stitcher - https://goo.gl/j2eViHWatch/Listen on Youtube - https://goo.gl/rmJ8ksListen on TuneIn - https://goo.gl/lBs1wNFacebook - https://www.facebook.com/DiscographydiscussionTwitter - https://twitter.com/discussmetalTumblr - https://danandjoeshow.tumblr.comYoutube Live Stream - https://goo.gl/h7PuL2Google+ - https://goo.gl/WnyGvwQuestions? Comments? Suggestions? Email: danandjoeshow@gmail.comwww.discussmetal.com Media mentioned in this episode:"As the Story Grows" Bruce Fitzhugh of Living Sacrifice - http://www.asthestorygrows.com/670de3dfJason Wisdom and Death Therapy on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/deaththerapyLiving Sacrifice - Reject (featuring Jason Wisdom of Becoming The Archetype) https://youtu.be/XalGsJnRgl0 -Living Sacrifice PLAYLIST-ViolenceSecond DeathEnthronedIn the ShadowDepartureReborn EmpoweredSomething MoreRejectAltered LifeBurn the EndIgniteThe MartyrOverkill ExposureRules of EngagementScrewtape

Josh Todd of Buckcherry calls in this week to talk about his current solo tour with his band Josh Todd and The Conflict. We discuss the new album " Year of the Tiger". Josh also talks about growing up in southern California and going to early punk shows. Josh and Jon also rank the top 5 Pantera albums, talk about all the sexual misconduct scandals and discuss the passing of former Faith No More vocalist Chuck Mosley. Music on this episode from Josh Todd and The Conflict, Buckcherry, Pantera and One Hundred Thousand CONTACT: Email Talk Toomey Talk Toomey Facebook Talk Toomey Twitter SPONSORS: PUCK HCKY STORE: Talk Toomey Merch Talk Toomey Logo Tee ADVERTISE: Advertisecast DONATE: Patreon Paypal

Jeff Waters is the mastermind behind the great band Annihilator. Jeff joins the show this week to talk about their new album "For The Demented". Jeff and Josh also discuss the upcoming European tour with Testament and Death Angel. The guys also go over the many lineup changes with the band over the years. Chris Akin of The Classic Metal Show steps in this week for Jon Drake. Chris is on to talk about his new book "Cause and Effect: Motley Crue". Chris and Josh discuss the history of the Motley Crue '94 album, what was going on in each other's lives at the time and Chris' time working in a crematory. Gross. CONTACT: Email Talk Toomey Talk Toomey Facebook Talk Toomey Twitter SPONSORS: PUCK HCKY STORE: Talk Toomey Merch Talk Toomey Logo Tee ADVERTISE: Advertisecast DONATE: Patreon Paypal

Matt Heafy of Trivium returns to Talk Toomey: The Metal Nexus Podcast this week to discuss the new album "The Sin and The Sentence". Matt and Josh also talk about his preparedness for Hurricane Irma, his screaming technique used on the latest album and his love of gaming. Matt also talks about streaming and seeing that is the way of the future. Metallica is brought up once again, but this time they talk about Trivium's classic cover of Master Of Puppets. Josh and Jon also debate the merits of streaming versus buying physical copies. Does anyone even own a CD player anymore? Also on this episode, the guys talk about Big Dumb Face and Limp Bizkit. CONTACT: Email Talk Toomey Talk Toomey Facebook Talk Toomey Twitter SPONSORS: PUCK HCKY STORE: Talk Toomey Merch Talk Toomey Logo Tee ADVERTISE: Advertisecast DONATE: Patreon Paypal

One of the ambassadors of Metal, Jose Mangin sat down with Josh at the Louder Than Life Festival. The guys talked about meeting in the 90's, Jose interviewing James Hetfield, encountering Katy Perry and trade some Dimebag stories. WEBSITE: TalkToomeyPod.com CONTACT: Email Talk Toomey Talk Toomey Facebook Talk Toomey Twitter SPONSORS: PUCK HCKY STORE: Talk Toomey Merch Talk Toomey Logo Tee ADVERTISE: Advertisecast DONATE: Patreon Paypal

Shawn Drover of Act Of Defiance joins the show this week. Shawn and Josh talk about the new AoD album "Old Scars, New Wounds", playing golf and being a part of The Big 4 with Megadeth. Josh and Jon also talk about their top 3 perfect albums of all time. Music from Act Of Defiance, Megadeth, Queensryche and Machine Head WEBSITE: TalkToomeyPod.com CONTACT: Email Talk Toomey Talk Toomey Facebook Talk Toomey Twitter SPONSORS: PUCK HCKY STORE: Talk Toomey Merch Talk Toomey Logo Tee ADVERTISE: Advertisecast DONATE: Patreon Paypal

Jason Bakken of Cobras & Fire is back to discuss day two of the Louder Than Life festival. Josh and Bakko talk a little about each band. Music on this episode from Falling In Reverse, Incubus and For We Are Many. WEBSITE: TalkToomeyPod.com CONTACT: Email Talk Toomey Talk Toomey Facebook Talk Toomey Twitter SPONSORS: PUCK HCKY STORE: Talk Toomey Merch Talk Toomey Logo Tee ADVERTISE: Advertisecast DONATE: Patreon Paypal

Brock Lindow, the voice of 36 Crazyfists, joins the show this week to talk about the upcoming album "Lanterns". Brock talks about the inspiration behind the lyrics of the new record. Brock and Josh talk about his love of Alice in Chains and the how the Seattle Scene made it to Alaska. Brock, being the hockey lover he is, answers some questions about the Nashville Predators and their fans. He also reminisces about the Killswitch Engage tour from 2004. Josh and Jon talk about Jon's recent recording with Discography Discussion and Josh's recording with Bakko from Cobra's and Fire. They also discuss Gene Simmons wishing he could trademark air, Jon's love of Prince or lack thereof and XXXTentacion getting knocked out on stage. WEBSITE: TalkToomeyPod.com CONTACT: Email Talk Toomey Talk Toomey Facebook Talk Toomey Twitter SPONSORS: PUCK HCKY STORE: Talk Toomey Merch Talk Toomey Logo Tee ADVERTISE: Advertisecast DONATE: Patreon Paypal

Happy 2nd Birthday to the podcast. This week to celebrate we have John Connolly of Sevendust on to talk about his other venture "Projected". We talk about the writing process for both bands. John talks about his relationship with Dimebag and how Dime was fan of Sevendust. We discuss Projected releasing a double album in 2017 and if he is crazy. John also talks about his relationship with the Creed guys and touring with them and Metallica. We could not have asked for a better birthday guest. Jon Drake is out of commission this week after singing all Labor Day weekend, so I called in Mark Strigl of the Talking Metal podcast to fill his shoes. Mark and I discuss meeting at the Rock N Pod Expo in Nashville and the festivities. Mark and I also talk about local band festivals and the future of podcasting. You can check out Mark and Talking Metal at TalkingMetal.com WEBSITE: TalkToomeyPod.com CONTACT: Email Talk Toomey Talk Toomey Facebook Talk Toomey Twitter SPONSORS: PUCK HCKY STORE: Talk Toomey Merch Talk Toomey Logo Tee ADVERTISE: Advertisecast DONATE: Patreon Paypal

Opus and Rob Roy stopped by the Talk Toomey table at the Nashville Rock N Pod Expo. The guys talked about the latest Dead By Wednesday release, working with Dave Ellefson and touring with Raven. Opus also tells us about working with Jamey Jasta and his Hatewear clothing line. Josh, Rob and Opus trade Marc Rizzo tour stories to finish out the interview. WEBSITE: TalkToomeyPod.com CONTACT: Email Talk Toomey Talk Toomey Facebook Talk Toomey Twitter SPONSORS: PUCK HCKY STORE: Talk Toomey Merch Talk Toomey Logo Tee ADVERTISE: Advertisecast DONATE: Patreon Paypal

The mighty Steev Esquivel of Skinlab sits down with Toomey at the Nashville Rock N Pod Expo 2017. The guys discuss touring together many moons ago, the Skinlab album and how he hooked up with Dead By Wednesday. Steev lets us know what happened at Robb Flynn's 50th Birthday party. WEBSITE: TalkToomeyPod.com CONTACT: Email Talk Toomey Talk Toomey Facebook Talk Toomey Twitter SPONSORS: PUCK HCKY STORE: Talk Toomey Merch Talk Toomey Logo Tee ADVERTISE: Advertisecast DONATE: Patreon Paypal

Toby Wright and Josh sit down at the Nashville Rock N Pod Expo. In this bonus interview, Josh and Toby talk about the many albums that Toby has produced, mixed and engineered. The guys talk about his working with Sevendust, Korn, deftones, Biohazard, Fear Factory, Slayer, Soulfly and Taproot. Toby also weighs in on the "where is the bass on ...And Justice For All" question. WEBSITE: TalkToomeyPod.com CONTACT: Email Talk Toomey Talk Toomey Facebook Talk Toomey Twitter SPONSORS: PUCK HCKY STORE: Talk Toomey Merch Talk Toomey Logo Tee ADVERTISE: Advertisecast DONATE: Patreon Paypal

The legend himself, David Vincent joins the podcast this week. David and Josh talk about his current dive into the world of country music and his acceptance in a new circle of musicians. David discusses the origins of his country roots and teaming up with Danny B Harvey. David also talks about how he came to fill the shoes of Lemmy in Headcat. They also discuss David's new band I Am Morbid and his playing of the classic Morbid Angel catalog. Josh and Jon break down the Nashville Rock N Pod Expo 2017 and Josh gives his highlights of the expo. After the David Vincent interview, Josh and Jon discuss the new Master of Puppets box set that Metallica just introduced. Music on this episode from David Vincent, Metallica and Sepultura WEBSITE: TalkToomeyPod.com CONTACT: Email Talk Toomey Talk Toomey Facebook Talk Toomey Twitter SPONSORS: PUCK HCKY STORE: Talk Toomey Merch Talk Toomey Logo Tee ADVERTISE: Advertisecast DONATE: Patreon Paypal

George Lynch joins the podcast this week to talk about his new album "The Brotherhood", making music with Michael Sweet and talks about the Dokken live DVD/CD. Jon Drake takes the week off, so Chris Akin from The Classic Metal Show tries to fill his shoes. Chris and I talk about Ozzy playing during the eclipse, secondary market Misfits tickets, Pantera, CMStv, The Nashville Rock N Pod Expo and more. Also a great iTunes review and shout outs for sharing. WEBSITE: TalkToomeyPod.com CONTACT: Email Talk Toomey Talk Toomey Facebook Talk Toomey Twitter SPONSORS: PUCK HCKY STORE: Talk Toomey Merch Talk Toomey Logo Tee ADVERTISE: Advertisecast DONATE: Patreon Paypal Rock n Pod Expo GoFundMe

Friend of the show Jason T Smith returns this week to talk about the Chester Bennington Memorial Service items that ended up on eBay. Jason is a huge player in the eBay world and knows the inner working of the site. Jason and Jon also reminisce about Cleveland bands like Mushroomhead. Jason also gives us live show reports about Queen w/ Adam Lambert and Corey Feldman. Josh and Jon talk about their most bizarre shows they've seen and discuss Marty Friedman. Music on this episode from All That Remains, Mushroomhead and Sevendust WEBSITE: TalkToomeyPod.com CONTACT: Email Talk Toomey Talk Toomey Facebook Talk Toomey Twitter SPONSORS: PUCK HCKY STORE: Talk Toomey Merch Talk Toomey Logo Tee ADVERTISE: Advertisecast DONATE: Patreon Paypal Rock n Pod Expo GoFundMe

Welcome back to Death Therapy! Completing the finale of a 2 part podcast exploration, Mike, Jeremy and Danny fight the good fight of exhaustion and finish strong through numbers 5 to 1. The guys polish off their top 10 favorite films countdown with controversial picks and true to form off topic banter. Put the kids to bed, dim the lights and get ready for the final countdown!  Therapy is in session!

Jon Drake officially joins the show on this episode. Josh and Jon answer the question if Linkin Park should continue after the death of Chester. Tribute/ Cover bands are discussed. Playing shows in the Cleveland area and learning liquor laws in each state is a must do for up and coming bands. Music on this episode from Dimebag Darrell and Testament WEBSITE: TalkToomeyPod.com CONTACT: Email Talk Toomey Talk Toomey Facebook Talk Toomey Twitter SPONSORS: PUCK HCKY STORE: Talk Toomey Merch Talk Toomey Logo Tee ADVERTISE: Advertisecast DONATE: Patreon Paypal Rock n Pod Expo GoFundMe

Jon Drake of The Nerf Herder Council joins the show to discuss his love of Van Halen and my dislike of them. We move onto the greatness of Pantera and Megadeth. WEBSITE: TalkToomeyPod.com CONTACT: Email Talk Toomey Talk Toomey Facebook Talk Toomey Twitter SPONSORS: PUCK HCKY STORE: Talk Toomey Merch Talk Toomey Logo Tee ADVERTISE: Advertisecast DONATE: Patreon Paypal Rock n Pod Expo GoFundMe

In this marathon of a podcast, Chris Czynszak returns to Talk Toomey. Chris and I talk about his favorite subject, Kiss. We break down our top 8 Kiss members in makeup. We discuss the latest Rex Brown solo album and a Rex show that Chris recently was in attendance. Chris and I talk about the Rock N Pod Expo that will take place in Nashville on Aug 26th. We discuss our love of Nashville and the outpour of support for Toddzilla. This is by far my longest talk on the podcast and it was a blast to put together. Music on this episode from Kiss and Frehley's Comet. WEBSITE: TalkToomeyPod.com CONTACT: Email Talk Toomey Talk Toomey Facebook Talk Toomey Twitter SPONSORS: PUCK HCKY STORE: Talk Toomey Merch Talk Toomey Logo Tee ADVERTISE: Advertisecast DONATE: Patreon Paypal Rock n Pod Expo GoFundMe

Mitch Lafon returns to the podcast this week. Mitch and I discuss Kiss, late start times at rock shows and his move to the Jericho Network. Music from Kiss, Stone Sour and The Biters WEBSITE: TalkToomeyPod.com CONTACT: Email Talk Toomey Talk Toomey Facebook Talk Toomey Twitter SPONSORS: PUCK HCKY STORE: Talk Toomey Merch Talk Toomey Logo Tee ADVERTISE: Advertisecast DONATE: Patreon Paypal Rock n Pod Expo GoFundMe

James Morris returns this week to talk about the new album from Noncon. James and I discuss the ease people can get music and how it must be impossible for young bands to make a career out of music. James and I talk about the great Big Val and touring with Pantera. James talks about touring with the deftones and playing Ozzfest 97 with Metallica. We play a couple songs off the new Noncon release and I finish the episode out with some downset. WEBSITE: TalkToomeyPod.com CONTACT: Email Talk Toomey Talk Toomey Facebook Talk Toomey Twitter SPONSORS: PUCK HCKY STORE: Talk Toomey Merch Talk Toomey Logo Tee ADVERTISE: Advertisecast DONATE: Patreon Paypal Rock n Pod Expo GoFundMe

In this abbreviated episode of the podcast, I talk to the great Billy Milano of M.O.D. They have a great new album due out July 7th through Megaforce Records. Billy is wide open in this talk. The interview was cut short due to some technical difficulties. WEBSITE: TalkToomeyPod.com CONTACT: Email Talk Toomey Talk Toomey Facebook Talk Toomey Twitter SPONSORS: PUCK HCKY STORE: Talk Toomey Merch Talk Toomey Logo Tee ADVERTISE: Advertisecast DONATE: Patreon Paypal Rock n Pod Expo GoFundMe

From mischievous trampolines to the fall of America's golden age, we welcome you to Death Therapy. In our first episode, the guys introduce themselves and immediately dive in. Our topics range from the conception of our mysterious artwork, secret operation: Trump bumper sticker, and today's influence of cultural marxism. Grab yourself a warm cup of something and get cozy because its time to have a first of many chats.   Listener Feedback: deaththerapypodcast@gmail.com    

Travis Turner of the As The Story Grows podcast is the guest this week. Travis is one of my favorite podcasters in the game and it was time to have him on for his solo episode. Travis and I talk about his upbringing in music and having to hide metal albums from his parents. We discuss his early bands and opening for Biohazard. Travis talks about his journey in podcasting and his favorite guests that have turned into friendships. And last but not least, we talk about our podcast supergroup PODTERA!! I discuss the latest issues with Five Finger Death Punch, play my contribution to the latest Skribbal mixtape and some Megadeth. GUEST WEBSITE: As The Story Grows WEBSITE: TalkToomeyPod.com CONTACT: Email Talk Toomey Talk Toomey Facebook Talk Toomey Twitter SPONSORS: PUCK HCKY STORE: Talk Toomey Merch Talk Toomey Logo Tee ADVERTISE: Advertisecast DONATE: Patreon Paypal Rock n Pod Expo GoFundMe

Cody Perez of Amerakin Overdose joins the podcast this week. The outspoken and controversial vocalist talks about the latest news with AOD and their latest album. He lets us know how the collaboration with Waylon Reavis came together. Cody and I also discuss the struggle for up and coming bands and how we hate the system of clubs taking cuts of the merch. Cody lets us know if he still has issues with 36 Crazyfists drummer Kyle Baltus (hint....he doesn't). Cody also tells a story about seeing Primer 55 when he was teenager. WEBSITE: TalkToomeyPod.com CONTACT: Email Talk Toomey Talk Toomey Facebook Talk Toomey Twitter SPONSORS: PUCK HCKY STORE: Talk Toomey Merch Talk Toomey Logo Tee ADVERTISE: Advertisecast DONATE: Patreon Paypal Rock n Pod Expo GoFundMe

Donald Tardy joins the podcast this week to talk about Obituary's self titled album. We also talk about their current tour and John Tardy's voice. Don tells a story about watching Slayer play while talking with Nicko McBrain. Donald also talks about his time in Andrew W.K. and playing SNL. WEBSITE: TalkToomeyPod.com CONTACT: Email Talk Toomey Talk Toomey Facebook Talk Toomey Twitter SPONSORS: PUCK HCKY STORE: Talk Toomey Merch Talk Toomey Logo Tee ADVERTISE: Advertisecast DONATE: Patreon Paypal Rock n Pod Expo GoFundMe

Quick chat with Fozzy guitarist Billy Grey. We talk about the new Fozzy single, their current tour and plans for the remainder of the year. Billy also talks about the Cyberstar single "Floods". Music on this bonus clip from Fozzy and Cyberstar. WEBSITE: TalkToomeyPod.com CONTACT: Email Talk Toomey Talk Toomey Facebook Talk Toomey Twitter SPONSORS: PUCK HCKY STORE: Talk Toomey Merch Talk Toomey Logo Tee ADVERTISE: Advertisecast DONATE: Patreon Paypal Rock n Pod Expo GoFundMe

Mark Slaughter joins the podcast for the monumental 100th episode. Mark tells us about his new solo album "Halfway There" that is due out on May 26th. We talk about the mystery that is Vinnie Vincent. Mark talks about the difference between a Slaughter album and a Mark Slaughter solo album. He discusses his relationship with David Ellefson and the EMP Label Group. Mark also talks about living in Nashville and how much the city has changed in the last 20 years. In celebration of the 100th episode, I asked for listener voice mails. There are comments, questions and requests. Music from Spineshank, Ill Nino, 12v Negative Earth and more. WEBSITE: TalkToomeyPod.com CONTACT: Email Talk Toomey Talk Toomey Facebook Talk Toomey Twitter SPONSORS: PUCK HCKY STORE: Talk Toomey Merch Talk Toomey Logo Tee ADVERTISE: Advertisecast DONATE: Patreon Paypal Rock n Pod Expo GoFundMe

Wednesday 13 joins the show this week. We discuss his new album "Condolences" and the new direction of the band. Wednesday talks about playing in bands in the early 90s and what he thought about Marilyn Manson when he came out. the Murderdolls are brought up and he talks about Joey Jordison getting back behind the kit. We also get super nerdy and talk about collecting toys. He is a huge collector of 80s toys such as MOTU, G.I. Joe and more. CONTACT: Email Talk Toomey Talk Toomey Facebook Talk Toomey Twitter SPONSORS: PUCK HCKY STORE: Talk Toomey Merch Talk Toomey Logo Tee ADVERTISE: Advertisecast DONATE: Patreon Paypal Rock n Pod Expo GoFundMe

Fallon Bowman joins the podcast this week. Fallon and I dive deep into the history of Kittie. We discuss the start of the band, all the early tours and what it was like being in a touring band before the age of 18. Fallon tells a great story about Dimebag watching her play. She also tells of how Kittie paid for her college. All three members of the Roach Koach podcast also join me on this nu metal extravaganza. Lorin, Jenny and Matt come on to talk about the nu metal canon, what makes a great nu metal song and more. CONTACT: Email Talk Toomey Talk Toomey Facebook Talk Toomey Twitter SPONSORS: PUCK HCKY STORE: Talk Toomey Merch Talk Toomey Logo Tee ADVERTISE: Advertisecast DONATE: Patreon Paypal Rock n Pod Expo GoFundMe

Jason Wisdom of Death Therapy joins Ian on a brand new Ian Hates Music Conversation Edition! Jason Wisdom is Death Therapy, pretty much literally, so listen in to learn everything about the band and Jason himself.  This is a very interesting conversation and Jason is very open about what it was like for him to start Death Therapy, touring with a new band, his past in Becoming The Archetype, and so much more! Follow the links below to support Jason Wisdom and Death Therapy! Pick up some merch, the album 'The Storm Before The Calm', and go see Death Therapy on Tour! Death Therapy - Facebook Death Therapy - Twitter Jason Wisdom - Twitter Death Therapy - Instagram Death Therapy - Merch Much thanks to Jason Wisdom for coming on Ian Hates Music! It was great to go in depth into Death Therapy as well as religion, the music scene, and even The Dark Tower by Stephen King! Don't forget to support Ian Hates Music! Subscribe, rate, and share Ian Hates Music on iTunes, Stitcher, Google Play Music, and any of your favorite podcast listening apps! Now on SoundCloud! Links below: Ian Hates Facebook Twitter Instagram iTunes Stitcher Google Play Music SoundCloud All sound bites or clips are exclusive property of their respective owners and are in no way affiliated with Ian Hates Podcast or its' sponsors. They are used here for entertainment purposes only. Enjoy! Long days and pleasant nights.

My chat with Jason Wisdom, vocalist/bass player for Death Therapy (formerly of Becoming the Archetype). We go over the origins for the band name, what lead Jason to start up this more industrial style metal band. We also touch on Jason's love of early video games, specifically the music in them, and lyrical theme for the recently released Death Therapy album. Intro Songs: "Ambition" and "Chin Ups" by Chae Hawk Outro Song: "Everything Burns" by Death Therapy Links: Facebook: @deaththerapy, @jonsuntitledpodcast Twitter: @mydeaththerapy, @jonsuntitledpod Instagram: @deaththerapy, @jonsuntitledpodcast deaththerapymetal@bandcamp.com Email: Jonsuntitledpod@gmail.com

If you thought anything could keep Dan at bay for long, you were mistaken. Dan flies in kamikaze to let everyone know exactly what he thinks about Atomship, and Death Therapy. Keep your kids away from Ghost, if you can, and how do you pronounce "Opprobrium" anyway? If you enjoy this podcast, please become a patron. We greatly appreciate it.Discography Discussion on Patreon - https://goo.gl/S7fVCcDiscography Discussion Podcast Homepage - podcast.discussmetal.comSubscribe to RSS - http://feeds.feedburner.com/danandjoeshowListen to Discography Discussion on iTunes - https://goo.gl/AzQ7vYDiscography Discussion on Google Play - https://goo.gl/d6czHIListen on Stitcher - https://goo.gl/j2eViHWatch/Listen on Youtube - https://goo.gl/rmJ8ksListen on TuneIn - https://goo.gl/lBs1wNSocial LinksFacebook - https://www.facebook.com/DiscographydiscussionTwitter - https://twitter.com/discussmetalTumblr - https://danandjoeshow.tumblr.comYoutube Live Stream - https://goo.gl/h7PuL2Questions? Comments? Suggestions? Email: danandjoeshow@gmail.comwww.discussmetal.com

Wendy Dio joins the podcast this week to talk about the upcoming Ride For Ronnie. Wendy tells a great story about why Ronnie joined Black Sabbath. She talks fondly of Ronnie and his courting of her. Wendy also talks about the hologram and the future plans. Martin Bush is the second interview of the show. Martin talks about his band Hyborian, touring and more. GUEST LINKS:Ride For RonnieHyborian Facebook CONTACT: Email Talk Toomey Talk Toomey Facebook Talk Toomey Twitter SPONSORS: PUCK HCKY STORE: Talk Toomey Merch Talk Toomey Logo Tee ADVERTISE: Advertisecast DONATE: Patreon Paypal Rock n Pod Expo GoFundMe

The Doomhammer returns for a Discography Discussion double feature showcasing a band that only made one album, and a brand new band as we attempt to solve the riddle of one band/one album.  Can the ship land without crashing into the lie?  Find out right now on Discography Discussion. If you enjoy this podcast, please become a patron. We greatly appreciate it.Discography Discussion on Patreon - https://goo.gl/S7fVCcDiscography Discussion Podcast Homepage - podcast.discussmetal.comSubscribe to RSS - http://feeds.feedburner.com/danandjoeshowListen to Discography Discussion on iTunes - https://goo.gl/AzQ7vYDiscography Discussion on Google Play - https://goo.gl/d6czHIListen on Stitcher - https://goo.gl/j2eViHWatch/Listen on Youtube - https://goo.gl/rmJ8ksListen on TuneIn - https://goo.gl/lBs1wNSocial LinksFacebook - https://www.facebook.com/DiscographydiscussionTwitter - https://twitter.com/discussmetalTumblr - https://danandjoeshow.tumblr.comYoutube Live Stream - https://goo.gl/h7PuL2Questions? Comments? Suggestions? Email: danandjoeshow@gmail.comwww.discussmetal.com

John 5 joins the podcast this week. John 5 tells the story of his getting Gene and Ace to reunite at the Ace Frehley concert. John 5 and the guys talk about their love of Hee Haw. They talk about the frontman greatness of Rob Zombie. John discusses a lost DLR Band album and more. Chris Akin of The Classic Metal Show is on for a segment talking about band merch, White Zombie and porn. Skribbal sent in the great new addition to the Talk Toomey Podcast and that is the Talk Toomey Rap.....a must listen. Also to the local Louisville listeners, there is a nonpoint ticket giveaway. GUEST LINKS:John 5 FacebookClassic Metal Show Website CONTACT: Email Talk Toomey Talk Toomey Facebook Talk Toomey Twitter SPONSORS: PUCK HCKY STORE: Talk Toomey Merch Talk Toomey Logo Tee ADVERTISE: Advertisecast DONATE: Patreon Paypal Rock n Pod Expo GoFundMe

Jason Wisdom joins the podcast this week. Jason talks about his new project Death Therapy, wondering where these kids are that buy records and touring as a 2 piece band. The Talk Toomey cover of the week is Atreyu doing You Give Love a Bad Name ------------------------------------ GUEST LINKS:Death Therapy FacebookJason Wisdom on As The Story Grows CONTACT: Email Talk Toomey Talk Toomey Facebook Talk Toomey Twitter SPONSORS: PUCK HCKY STORE: Talk Toomey Merch Talk Toomey Logo Tee ADVERTISE: Advertisecast DONATE: Patreon Paypal Rock n Pod Expo GoFundMe

Former frontman for Becoming The Archetype, Jason Wisdom has changed the tone of metal with Death Therapy. It's groovy, it's industrial, and it has zero guitar. Jason explains about his new style and new album during our talk.

  Former frontman for Becoming The Archetype, Jason Wisdom has changed the tone of metal with Death Therapy. It's groovy, it’s industrial, and it has zero guitar. Jason explains about his new style and new album during our talk.

This discussion with Jack Hoey III is based on a documentary (see below) that proposes the possibility of an evil spirit (Kundalini) infiltrating the church and actually be mistaken as the third member of the trinity (Holy Spirit). Are some of the Christian leaders talked about in this video be actually rejoicing over movements of Hindu spirits? You make the call. W/ special appearance from an old guest, Jason Wisdom (from Death Therapy). Video discussion is based on: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfXmDkQiE2o

Chapter 93: "The Podcast Before The Calm..." ...as read by Jason Wisdom of Death Therapy, formerly of Becoming The Archetype (Recorded on Friday February 17th , 2017) Hopefully this will be the last time we hear from Jason Wisdom for a while, AMIRITE? Totally kidding. One of my loveliest friends comes back for a third time to do a track by track of his new Death Therapy album "The Storm Before The Calm"...out on Solid State on Feb 24th, 2017. Pre-order here: http://flyt.it/DeathTherapy Jason and I discuss everything from a man's walk with God, a lil' bit o' sports (sorry, Jeremy!) to video games. Stick around to the end because I have a special message from Seth Werkheiser. Death Therapy: https://www.facebook.com/deaththerapy/ Death Therapy Merch: https://deaththerapymetal.bandcamp.com/merch Seth's run for Women's Resources of Monroe County: https://www.gofundme.com/trail-run-for-womens-resources Chapter 93 Music: THANK YOU JASON AND SOLID STATE RECORDS! Thanks to them, you get to hear a little bit of the entire album. Until Then Self. Mind. Dead. The Lie Wake Me When I'm Dead Prodigal Slow Dance With Death Possessed Everything Burns Belmont Family Curse Part One (Night) Belmont Family Curse Part Two (Day) As The Story Grows links: Help out at Patreon Follow on Twitter See what we're doing at Lavirra Productions ATSG Website ATSG Music and Merch Leave some feedback at iTunes ATSG YouTube Channel Join the Email List ATSG Facebook Email: asthestorygrows@gmail.com

Chapter 81: "A Guarenteed Cure " ...as read by Jason Wisdom of Death Therapy Mr. Jason Wisdom, formerly of Becoming The Archetype, has moved on. Most folks join a new band or perhaps start a new one. Nope. Jason started a solo project. By himself. Nothing but bass. Decisions no longer fall on a group of people they fall on one...in a 99' Suburban...but NOT in red tank tops. We got some big news in here: Andrew Schwab of Project 86 is a guest vocalist on the upcoming album, Jason has signed Death Therapy with Solid State and the album should be coming out in February. There we go. You heard it here. Jason has gotten this thing off the ground and is now touring with Project 86. It's a honor that he let some cats out of some bags here. Thanks, buddy! Oh, there's also a never before heard demo of Becoming The Archetypes' "Epoch Of War" that was recorded in my house in 2006. No big deal. Wink. Chapter 81 Notes: DT Bandcamp: http://deaththerapymetal.bandcamp.com/ DT Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Death-Therapy-775868665844725/?hc_ref=PAGES_TIMELINE Listen to my first chapter with Jason from July 2015...Funniest. Tour. Story. Ever. http://www.asthestorygrows.com/episodes/14234-jason-wisdom-becoming-the-archetype-solamors Photo Credit: RJP Photography See the video of this podcast at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIAUCQ7PLUM Chapter 81 Music: Death Therapy: "Until Then" Death Therapy: "Slow Dance With Death" Becoming The Archetype: "Epoch Of War" (2006 demo from my home studio. Been sitting on this nugget for ten years.) Death Therapy: "Prodigal" As The Story Grows links: Help out at Patreon Follow on Twitter See what we're doing at Lavirra Productions ATSG Website ATSG Music and Merch Leave some feedback at iTunes ATSG YouTube Channel Join the Email List ATSG Facebook Email: asthestorygrows@gmail.com

The most influential of Christian music festivals, AudioFeed, is back with another incredible lineup of artists. The Antidote returns from the festival with a sampling of the hard music found at Audiofeed 2016 as we visit with Death Therapy, While Heroes Sleep, and music newcomer, Myelin Sheeth. Round 1 of 2.

The most influential of Christian music festivals, AudioFeed, is back with another incredible lineup of artists. The Antidote returns from the festival with a sampling of the hard music found at Audiofeed 2016 as we visit with Death Therapy, While Heroes Sleep, and music newcomer, Myelin Sheeth. Round 1 of 2.

In this episode we are joined by Jamie Kucinski. Jaime talks to us about Mpact Events and the upcoming Serpent Stomp festival in Tulsa. He goes a little over the acts Living Sacrifice, White Collar Sideshow, Broken Flesh, Death Therapy, Grave Robber, TD Benton, and what you can except from the festival in the future. We also talk about his new band Assailment, the Not So Silent Night event which will be on its 6th year this December, Killswitch Engage / Jesse Leach, some influences, the Tulsa music scene, faith in music, the charities MPact is involved with, and a lot more. We play a song from Serpent Stomp headliner Living Sacrifice and a great track from Grave Robber as well. Thank you for listening, and please share!

"Death Therapy" by Mike Donahue in the "Forgotten God" series on August 30, 2015 at New Life in Kearney, NE.