Podcast appearances and mentions of Lindy West

This week, Meagan is processing last week's spectacular Seattle Mariners loss to the ToronTOE Blue Jays. Thank you to all our listeners who attended Meagan's pity party, gifting her nothing but kindness. We also got an incredible write-in from friend of the show Cailin!! Thank you for your corroborating evidence that Meagan was among the Most Insp.! And if you're former coach Brian, we're waiting on you to write in, you coward, we KNOW you're listening!!!!! We're standing by our phone waiting for your call (703) 829-0003.And on deck (baseball term) is Lindy's Rebuilding Year! And many people may be wondering: why Lindy look more demolished? Why worse? It's actually quite simple. It's because she is adopting the NBA calendar year, of course! Yes, LRY might have started in January 2025, but it ends in June 2026, actually!!!! One year = two years, DUH. We're also treated to an impromptu update on

Look, it's okay. You'll be able to sleep just fine. Sure, witches can be scary but keep two things in mind: witches are pretend so they can't hurt you and some list-making analytical thinking is a great way to doze off to some shuteye that is guaranteed toad, broomstick, and cackle-free. SwC returning guest Lindy West teams up with Meagan Hatcher-Mays to do the honors. The two of them host the podcast Text Me Back Podcast. Find out if the witches at the beginning of Macbeth outrank Dianne Wiest and Stockard Channing in Practical Magic. Do Erivo and Grande defeat Strega Nona? You'll have to tune in and find out, obviously. As one famous melting witch once said, what a world, what a world.Listen to Text Me Back! wherever fine pods are cast. Subscribe to Meagan's Substack Swamp Person by going to swampperson.substack.com. Learn more about Lindy and her writings by visiting her website, www.LindyWest.net.Hey Sleepy Heads, is there anyone whose voice you'd like to drift off to, or do you have suggestions on things we could do to aid your slumber?Email us at: sleepwithcelebs@maximumfun.org.Follow the Show on:Instagram @sleepwcelebsBluesky @sleepwithcelebsTikTok @SleepWithCelebsJohn is on Bluesky @JohnMoeJohn's acclaimed, best-selling memoir, The Hilarious World of Depression, is now available in paperback._________________________________________________________________________Join | Maximum FunIf you like one or more shows on MaxFun, and you value independent artists being able to do their thing, you're the perfect person to become a MaxFun monthly member.

Did you hear what they were talking about on Text Me Back this week??They spent 45 minutes on bloody diarrhea, 45 minutes on obscure Seattle mascots, and an hour and half on walking downhill!!And in our tidings…Lindy gives us the latest on Barry, who is fine, probably! Pre-order Adult Braces now! Most of those dollars will go to Barry's $4500 vet bill!!!! And in other news, the rumor is that Meagan's hat had nothing to do with the Seattle Mariners losing the ALCS??? Or is she SOLELY responsible for their loss? Write in at deartextmeback@gmail.com. And if you can go back in time and call in, PLEASE let Meagan know the results of games 5, 6, and 7 so she can begin her healing process

We asked, and you jingle-jangled our dang phone off the hook. Thank you to all our beautiful jingle horses who called and texted in to tell us that you too exist within Lindy's Mandela mind. But the mystery continues…we, we MUST find the original Wee Sing Christmas. Is it in Lindy's piano bench? Is it in her OTHER piano bench??? Only one way to find out (looking inside both benches). And special shoutout to Robert aka OUR ANGEL for calling in with a special German rendition of Jingle Bells!!!! We bleeped your location out of respect for you, king! And in our Tidings this week, Lindy is back on her rodent beat (new rat just dropped!) and Meagan bears her beautiful Seattle Mariners-related psychosis. Do YOU want to help the Mariners win the World Series FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER? Subscribe to our Patreon https://www.patreon.com/TextMeBackPodAnd lastly, we bring to you a cherished segment Two Minutes Hate. Fellas…did you know that there is a whole profession out there working to make your awkward shirts look right? It is a craftsperson known as…a “tailor” and it's all very above board. Would you like to support the only remaining best friend podcast? You can do this in many ways. Subscribe to our newsletter (free!), become a Patron, and BUY OUR CUTE-ASS MERCH!NEVER LISTENED TO THE POD BEFORE? HERE IS YOUR STARTER KIT TO BEING BFFS WITH US!Listen to Part 1 of our Jingle Bells Lost Verse Mystery in Lindy and Meagan Están en La BibliotecaTune into our Pledge Drive Lives on Youtube! https://tinyurl.com/BBLs-for-BBWs-PLAYLISTMeet Kevin in: Lindy and Meagan Need to Talk About KevinLearn why they keep saying BBW in Lindy and Meagan Are Officially BBWsDiscover the Kayak Dad Lore in: It's Our First Episode!WE NEED OUR ACCOLADES! It helps people find the show.⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ (5 stars only please) on Spotify⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ (5 stars only please) on Apple PodcastsGive us Rave Reviews and Accolades on Apple Podcasts! REAL LIFE EXAMPLE:“Sizzling Hot! Love listening to these two besties be silly, creative and have fun together. The music and jingles go HARD.”PUGSNPIZZA IT'S ALL FOR YOU BABY!!!STUFF TO CHECK OUT:The Roches xmas album!If you must…subscribe to the hot new Jenny Slate podcast I Need You GuysCheck out our MERCH so we can make MORE merch!! (Patrons get a discount, so check u s out at patreon.com/textmebackpod)Pre-Order Lindy's book!!!! Adult BracesMeagan's Super Secular Spectacular Xmas playlistNEWSLETTER ME BACK (A FREE WAY TO SUPPORT THE SHOW!)Listen Ad-Free by joining our $12 Patreon tier Freakaconda!Check out the Text Me Back Venmo!!!Check out Meagan's latest installment of SWAMP PERSONSubscribe to Lindy's newsletter butt news!Join our Discord! We're obsessed with these people.⋆｡°✩⋆｡°✩⋆｡°✩⋆｡°If you like this episode and want us to keep making the show forever, please subscribe to our Patreon. This podcast will always be free, but we need your help to produce it -- and if you support our Patreon, you'll get all kinds of goodies in addition to the show itself! Learn more about the different tiers and rewards here: https://www.patreon.com/TextMeBackPodAlso! Please keep in touch with us! You can text OR CALL us at the Best Friend Party Phone: (703) 829-0003.We're on Instagram at @textmebackpod!You can email us at deartextmeback@gmail.com!WE WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU SO BAD!⋆｡°✩⋆｡°✩⋆｡°✩⋆｡°TEXT ME BACK is a production of Lindy West and Meagan Hatcher-Mays, proud members of the BFF Network. Our senior producer is Meagan Hatcher-Mays. Our other senior producer is Lindy West. Our show is produced by Alli Slice.Our music is by Chief Ahamefule J. Oluo. Diana Bowen is our video and creative advisor. Our digital strategist is Chance Nichols.You can also follow the podcast on Instagram and TikTok @textmebackpod. And for even more bestie content, follow Lindy and Meagan on Instagram at @thelindywest and @importantmeagan!⋆｡°✩⋆｡°✩⋆｡°✩⋆｡°See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Welcome to Text Me Back Podcast: A FILM Podcast!!!Somehow no spoilers, but we are talking about Paul Thomas Anderson's One Battle After Another. Have you seen??? This is what our Discord was made for…just SAYinnnng. You're one little Patreon subscription away from your people over at https://www.patreon.com/TextMeBackPod.Besides being ~film critics~ we are also debunking the Mandela Effect so we're basically WOMEN IN STEM TOO!!! Did Lindy alienate you by tearing down possibly your only hope that there are parallel universes you could potentially slip into at any moment? Do YOU remember Lindy's weird-ass lyric??? We know it's spooky season, but let us talk about this Christmas song real quick, okay? Don't worry, later in the ep we talk about Jeepers Creepers in Meagan's Tiktok Digest (call to our Jingleheimers and Kingleheimers!) so you'll get your scary fix. Mara from Tiktok…we're praying for u.Plus, we're taking a long overdue check-in with Lindy's Rebuilding Year! Don't forget to pre-order Lindy's book Adult Braces and personally affirm her brain function! And we're THRILLED to report a new segment dropping: Meagan's Journey

As an avid reader, I'm always seeking that next great book. The one that allows me to see myself and the world more clearly, comforts me when I'm lost, or inspires me to move through my day differently. This series is my opportunity to pass these remarkable books onto you, as readers of A Mind of Her Own, both for your own enjoyment and also, as a self-serving shout-out to the universe to send me more amazing, life-changing reads. I'm excited to hear what you think, and I'm so glad you're here!Life-Changing Reads: A Series1. Let Your Life Speak: Listening for the Voice of Vocation, by Parker Palmer“Vocation does not come from willfulness. It comes from listening…vocation does not mean a goal that I pursue. It means a calling that I hear.”I read this book when I was feeling lost, searching for a life that aligned with my values and desires, and doubting myself at every step. I kept hearing this call to write, to create, but I thought it was something I should do in my “non-work” time, because it wasn't a serious activity for a physician. Parker's discussion of his own struggle to find his true vocation, through an altruistic but ultimately unsustainable career path, was a fundamental guide on my journey.2. Quiet: The Power of Introverts in a World that Can't Stop Talking, by Susan Cain“So when introverts assume the observer role, as when they write novels, or contemplate unified field theory—or fall quiet at dinner parties—they're not demonstrating a failure of will or a lack of energy. They're simple doing what they're constitutionally suited for.”I listened to this book in the car, sitting in LA traffic, during my psychiatry residency. I still remember the feeling of hearing these words, suggesting my tendency to prefer listening to talking, observing to acting, thinking to doing was not because I was lazy, overly shy or antisocial. It was what I was “constitutionally suited for.” This was a revelation.Here I am now, writing books, listening as a psychiatrist and podcast host, and taking time to think about life's great mysteries. Thank you, Susan, for your beautiful writing.3. The Good Life: Lessons From the World's Longest Scientific Study of Happiness, by Robert Waldinger, MD and Marc Schulz, PhD“Do I matter? Some of us have lived the majority of our lives and find ourselves looking back, others have most of our lives in front of us and are looking forward. For all of us, regardless of age, it helps to remember that this question of mattering, of leaving something for future generations and of being part of something bigger than ourselves, is not just about our personal achievements—it's about what we mean to other people. And it's never too late to start now and leave a mark.”This book, by the directors of the Harvard Study of Adult Development, is a powerful summary of the lives of two generations of individuals from the same families for over 80 years. It's remarkable to read their quotes as they navigate joy, loss, struggles and successes over the years. The reason I've found it so important to read and reread is its powerful reminder of the importance of our relationships in creating happiness. Not money. Not fame. Not a perfect body. Not prizes or rings or medals. It's all about the love and connection we have in our lives.Today, as I try to navigate the overwhelmingly stressful news and constant churn of social media, it grounds me in my day-to-day life to reflect on those in my closest orbit. How can I connect with them today? How do I show my love and interest in ways both silly and sincere? Even if I've been feeling disconnected, I trust that it is never too late to leave my own mark in their lives and remember the joy of having them in mine.4. How Do You Feel? One Doctor's Search for Humanity in Medicine, by Jessi Gold, MD, MS“Sometimes, the heaviest emotional burden is to bear witness or to hold space for someone else's story. To do my job well and be someone whom people can trust, I need to care. I need to be truly empathetic. I need to be raw and available.”This beautiful book, by Jessi Gold, describes so many aspects of my experience as a psychiatrist. She writes about the unique emotional toll of meeting with patients during some of their darkest moments, as they are working to overcome trauma, abuse, loss or grave illnesses. Reading this was incredibly validating. In the past, when I had finished my clinical week, I would look back and wonder, “Why can't I do more? Why didn't I see more patients? There is so much need.”Dr. Gold's book helped me to be self-compassionate, recognizing I could only be truly present if I also took care of myself. This is a message I now try to pass along to the psychiatry residents I teach. We are human, and we have limits. Thank you, Jessi, for generously sharing your life with us. Your work is so important.Listen to Dr. Gold on The Reflective Mind Podcast at https://amindofherown.substack.com/p/speaking-the-quiet-part-out-loud?r=1wdz1l5. Finding Meaning in the Second Half of Life: How to Finally, Really Grow Up by James Hollis, Ph.D.“To engage with the summons of our souls is to step into the deepest ocean, uncertain whether we will be able to swim to some new, distant shore. And yet, until we have consented to swim beyond the familiar lights of the port left behind, we will never arrive at a newer shore.”This stunning book, by Dr. James Hollis, a Jungian scholar and prolific writer, shares his own story of midlife depression and his decision to leave the familiar to seek training in Zurich and become a Jungian analyst. He writes beautifully about his struggle to identify his own path with the guidance of Jung's theory of individuation, defined as “the lifelong project of becoming more nearly the whole person we were meant to be.” I read and re-read this book as I was struggling with my own path to meaning in midlife, and I found such comfort in his powerful belief that we all can tap into what we already know: the person we are most meant to be.You can listen to his beautiful description of his path here: https://amindofherown.substack.com/p/a-nameless-longing-when-your-soul?r=1wdz1l6. Shrill, by Lindy West (I also highly recommend the Hulu series by the same name, starring Aidy Bryant )“I am my body. When my body gets smaller, it is still me. When my body gets bigger, it is still me. There is not a thin woman inside me, awaiting excavation. I am one piece.”Thinking back on my training during medical school and beyond, I can summarize any lecture about body size with one phrase: overweight equals unhealthy. This repeated conflation means I now must consciously uncouple one from the other in my clinical work, stepping back from the broad and imprecise shorthand to consider how they are, and are not, actually related.Lindy West's book helped me significantly as I was trying to shift my thinking on this topic. Her frank depiction of life in her larger body was at times heartbreaking (especially in the doctor's office), frequently humorous (with chapter titles like “Are you there, Margaret? It's me, a person who is not a complete freak.”) and overall a powerful motivator for change. I think all health care providers should read it at least once.If this resonates, check out my interview with Dr. Mara Gordon all about the size-inclusive healthcare revolution. https://amindofherown.substack.com/p/the-size-inclusive-healthcare-revolution?utm_source=publication-search7. Words Are My Matter: Writings on Life and Books by Ursula K. Le Guin“Fiction offers the best means of understanding people different from oneself, short of experience. Actually, fiction can be lots better than experience, because it's a manageable size, it's comprehensible, while experience just steamrollers over you and you understand what happened decades later, if ever.”I grew up in a very small town in North Dakota, just a few miles from the South Dakota border. I didn't recognize the enormity of the sky above my childhood home until I returned as an adult, head tipped back, staring upward in awe. I grew up there with a loving family and a surrounding community willing to cheer me on in events from basketball games to theater performances, but I always felt a bit out of place. Reading became my reassurance that the world was as big as the sky overhead, and I would eventually find my own path. Books also helped me recognize the importance of placing myself in another's shoes, virtual empathy-building machines that taught me about those whose lives were so incredibly different from my own.This book of Ursula K. Le Guin's essays, poems and book reviews reveals a grounded, opinionated, brilliant woman who decided to create entire worlds with stunning clarity, illuminating the challenges existing in our own. Readers and writers alike will not be sorry for taking a moment to absorb her work.If this interests you, please feel free to listen to my short essay, Books are Empathy Machines.8. Intimations by Zadie Smith“Talking to yourself can be useful. And writing means being overheard.”This book by Zadie Smith, a collection of six essays, was published in 2020, and provides a glimpse into the author's life during the early months of the Covid-19 virus. I've long been an admirer of her fiction, but this series allowed a much more intimate window into her wandering mind, trying to comprehend her place in a society turned inside out with uncertainty and fear.What does it mean to be an artist when people are being categorized as “essential workers?” Is loyalty to a place something that can outlast a feeling of unique vulnerability? How can writing provide an outlet for survival when the world is so fraught? There was comfort in her struggle to understand and in her feeling of disorientation, which I certainly shared. I emerged from her writing feeling more hopeful and far less alone.If this essay resonated, please feel free to check out this podcast episode Hope is the Best Antidote for Demoralization with Dr. James L. Griffith, MD9. Flow: The Psychology of Optimal Experience by Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi“We grow up believing that what counts most in our lives is that which will occur in the future…[however] since what we experience is reality, as far as we are concerned, we can transform reality to the extent that we influence what happens in consciousness and thus free ourselves from the threats and blandishments of the outside world.”My summary: We are always living for tomorrow, while life only happens right now, in our moment-by-moment experience, which we have the power to shape through our attention.You have likely heard of the concept of Flow, described by Dr. Csikszentmihalyi (here is a googled pronunciation: chik sent mee hai ee) as an optimal experience when a “person's body or mind is stretched to its limits in a voluntary effort to accomplish something difficult and worthwhile.” It is often referred to as being in a “flow state,” so immersed in a particular task that you lose track of time and are able to concentrate in a prolonged and highly satisfying way. He refers to our attention our “psychic energy.” Where we give our attention is quite literally how we experience our lives. This has never been more relevant, each of us tasked with creating our own protective filters from the onslaught of demands on our limited—because we're human—attention spans.This book is a revelation, with insights about the very nature of consciousness, what it means to be happy, and how we can infuse our lives with more pleasure. Flow can emerge in a wide variety of settings, whether it's while listening to or creating music, engaging in satisfying sex or consuming delicious foods. It may also occur when we are working on a challenging problem at the office, pushing past a confusing but compelling problem in school, or out solving problems in the world beyond. I've learned so much from his writing, and have absorbed his ideas which influence many of my own.If the concept of a flow and the quest for a meaningful life is of interest, check out my interview, “What Lights You Up?' with Dr. Jordan Grumet, palliative care physician and writer.10. Ambiguous Loss: Learning to Live with Unresolved Grief by Pauline Boss“In the case of ambiguous loss…complicated grieving can be a normal reaction to a complicated situation—the endless searching of a battlefield by the mother of a missing soldier; a stepchild's angry outbursts when his biological parent is totally excluded; a wife's depression and withdrawal because her husband has suffered a brain injury and is no longer himself.”I've found ambiguous loss to be such a powerful and surprisingly common experience in my psychiatry practice. This idea describes the unique suffering caused by uncertainty or a lack of resolution regarding a missing loved one. This could be psychological absence of someone still in our presence, such as when our loved one is struggling with dementia or severe mental illness, or the physical absence of those we still keep very much present in our psychological lives, including missing persons with unknown whereabouts.After first reading Ambiguous Loss, I reached out to Dr. Pauline Boss, now in her 90s, to thank her for her work and speak with her about this extremely helpful framework, which had a profound effect on me. She shared the origins of the research into this topic, begun with the families of pilots declared missing in action in Vietnam and Cambodia while she was at the Center of Prisoner of War Studies in the U.S. Naval Health Research Institute in San Diego. She spoke about interviewing the wives of these missing pilots and the intense pain caused by the ambiguity surrounding their husbands' whereabouts. This ongoing, often unresolvable grief can lead to depression, isolation, and ongoing family disruption, even generations later. By giving a name to this phenomenon, however, Pauline Boss has helped countless families begin to heal from the unimaginable and move forward into a more hopeful future.11. Can't We Talk About Something More Pleasant? A Memoir by Roz Chast“After my father died, I noticed that all the things that had driven me bats about him—his chronic worrying, his incessant chitchat, his almost suspect inability to deal with anything mechanical—now seemed trivial. The only emotion that remained was one of deep affection and gratitude that he was my dad.”This is the first graphic novel on my list, but it certainly won't be the last. I've been a fan of Roz Chast for a long time, with her quirky but poignant New Yorker cartoons. This powerful memoir highlights something I've found particularly helpful in my work and personal life: difficult truths are much more palatable if we can pair them with humor. My family has always taken this approach, particularly my father, coping with some truly heartbreaking cases in the hospital with an off-color joke about bowel movements around the family dinner table. Humor is also considered one of the most mature psychological defense mechanisms we use to cope with stress or loss in our lives, so way to go, Dad!Roz shares with us a uniquely painful time in her life, as her parents age well into their 90s, experiencing the indignities of increasingly frail bodies and waning independence. She writes with brave candor about the exhausting and expensive path an adult child must walk when her parents can no longer care for themselves, and her conflicted feelings as she watches them slowly fade. Her cartoons throughout provide much-needed moments of levity, as well as a beautiful tribute to the lives of these important people. If you or a loved one is going through this painful, but common, journey, this book could provide some true comfort, and maybe even a laugh or two.12. Congratulations, By the Way: Some Thoughts on Kindness by George Saunders“Be a good and proactive and even somewhat desperate patient on your own behalf—seek out the most efficacious, anti-selfishness medicines, energetically, for the rest of your life. Find out what makes you kinder, what opens you up and brings out the most loving, generous, and unafraid version of you—and go after those things as if nothing else matters.Because, actually, nothing else does.”These words are part of a lovely convocation address George Saunders delivered to the graduating students of Syracuse University, where he is a professor of creative writing. Understandably, it resonated far beyond the campus, and speaks a truly important message for today's world.I should admit, I have a soft spot for George Saunders. I imagine I'm not alone in this. I saw him speak at a New Yorker Festival event several years ago and he did not disappoint: sharp as a tack while also being thoughtful and extremely humble. In addition, he was super funny, which made sense because he's the author of one of the most hilarious short stories I've ever read. In “Pastoralia,” two employees are assigned to a caveman diorama in a fading fun park. One of them, who takes his role incredibly seriously, frequently pretends to scan the horizon for large game and refuses to speak to his cave mate, using only grunts and body language to communicate. The other employee, a chain-smoking, mint-eating mother of a struggling adult child seems to be trying to just get through the day, breaking every rule of proper performance, much to her cave mate's dismay. The story is simply sublime.My dear friend, John, who trained with me in psychiatry residency and became one of my dearest friends, introduced me to this story, along with other memorable cultural experiences such as the show “Broad City” and referring to the bathroom as the “wazzer.” He died in 2020 after a battle with brain cancer, but his legacy lives on, especially in my plan to someday turn “Pastoralia” into a musical (his idea). After all, what better way to honor his memory? Miss you John, but thank you for all you taught me.Thanks for reading A Mind of Her Own! Subscribe for free to receive new posts and hear about upcoming episodes & book events.Find Dr. Reid on Instagram: @jenreidmd and LinkedInYou can also preorder her upcoming book, Guilt Free!Also check out Dr. Reid's regular contributions to Psychology Today: Think Like a Shrink.Seeking a mental health provider? 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Welcome to Indulgence Gospel After Dark!We are Corinne Fay and Virginia Sole-Smith. These episodes are usually just for our Extra Butter membership tier — but today we're releasing this one to the whole list. So enjoy! (And if you love it, go paid so you don't miss the next one!) Episode 212 TranscriptCorinneToday is a family meeting episode. We're catching up on summer breaks, back to school, and a whole bunch of diet culture news stories that we've been wanting to discuss with you all.VirginiaWe're also remembering how to make a podcast, because we haven't recorded together in like six weeks. And it didn't start off great. But I think we're ready to go now.CorinneSomeone definitely said, “What day is it?”VirginiaIt's hard coming out of summer mode. I don't know if you feel that because you don't have kids, during back to school, but it is a culture shift.CorinneI don't think I feel the back to school thing as much, but I'm still in Maine, and it's actively fall. It's actively getting cold, and I'm just like, what is happening? I feel this pressure to do something, but I'm not sure what? Hibernate?Virginia“Should I buy a notebook? Should I be wearing fleece? I could go either way.” I don't know. It's weird. It is the start of fall. So we are moving into fall mindset. But like, don't rush me, you know? The dahlias bloom till first frost. That's my summer.CorinneSummer is so brief.VirginiaI'm having a lot of clothing feelings right now. I am not in a good place getting dressed, and it is for sure weather related, shoulder season-related. I'm in my annual conundrum of when do the Birkenstocks go away? When must our toes be covered for polite society? Am I showing arms? I just I don't even know how to get dressed. I hate all my clothes. Everything's terrible.CorinneI think this is part of what I'm feeling. I don't have enough warm clothes and I also don't want to buy another pair of sweatpants.VirginiaAnd you're traveling. So you're like, “I have warm clothes at home.” Didn't bring them because you didn't understand, even though you grew up in Maine and should remember that fall starts quite early there.CorinneI need to get it tattooed on my body. Bring a sweater, bring sweatpants.VirginiaWell, to be fair for this Maine trip, you were really focused on your sister's wedding. You had your nephew. You've had a lot going on.CorinneI was very focused on August, and really not thinking about September.VirginiaWill we even exist after? I mean, that's how it always is when you're gearing up for a big event, the post-event doesn't exist.And I don't know if you do the thing where you're like, well, I can deal with that after the big event. And then suddenly it's after the big event. You're like, well, now there's 47 things I need to deal with.CorinneI absolutely do that. Now I'm like, wait. How and when do I get back to New Mexico? Am I going back to New Mexico ever? In which case maybe I do need to buy sweatpants?VirginiaIt's so hard. Even without a wedding —I feel like all summer, because I have pretty skeleton childcare and I'm wanting to take time off, and it's a privilege that our job allows some flexibility like that, so when I get requests to, like, do a podcast, do a special thing. I'm like, “Talk to me in September. I can't do it this summer. Summer mode Virginia can't do anything extra!” And now I've just spent the week saying no to lots of things, because September me can't do it either. That was folly. I should have just said no the first time!That's one of those life lessons I'm always relearning that's really funny. If it's not an instant yes, it's a no. And I so often fall into the trap of it's not an instant yes, so let me kick that can down the curb a little bit, and then then I feel ruder because they come back and I'm like, no, I'm sorry. Actually, we were never going to do that.CorinneAs someone who's been on the other side of that where, like, I'll reach out to someone for the Style Questionnaire, and they'll be like, “Oh, can you ask me in two months?” And then when I reach out in two months, and they're like, “No.”VirginiaTotally. I'm on the other side of it all the time when we're booking podcast guests. So I'm completely aware of how shitty it feels. So I have a resolution. Summer Virginia just has to say no to things and not push it to Fall Virginia. Everyone hold me accountable next summer, because I'm so sorry to everybody I've said no to this week, but September is a real intense parenting month. There are just a lot of moving parts.I get 62 emails a day from the school. The middle school just announced back to school night will be tomorrow. They told us yesterday! One cool thing is, my older kid is in seventh grade now, so I no longer have to scramble for babysitters, which is a real achievement unlocked. Although she's going to realize at some point that she should increase her rates with me.CorinneOh, you pay her!VirginiaFor stuff where I'm going to be out of the house and need her to put her sister to bed. It's one thing, if I'm like, “I'm going to the store, you guys don't want to come.” Fine. You can doodle around at home. And it's not even really babysitting. She's going to ignore her the whole time. But I'm going to be out from 6 to 8pm tomorrow night. I need her to actually make sure her younger sibling gets in pajamas and brushes teeth and, moves towards bed. I'm not expecting them to be in bed when I get home, but I would like them to not be nowhere close.CorinneThat's really sweet.VirginiaPlus we have some big stuff in the works for both Burnt Toast and Big Undies, which we cannot discuss just yet. Yes, I am actively teasing it for you all.CorinneYou're going to bring that up now?! I feel like we should mention it at the end.VirginiaI think we can mention it whenever we feel like? I think they're probably like, “Why are they both doing reader surveys? What's going on?” And we can't say yet, but there's something going on, and it's also requiring a lot of our time and attention.CorinneWe're really busy. But I think it's going to be really good, and everyone's going to love it.VirginiaIn the meantime, though: What are we wearing? Real talk, what are we wearing to get through this weird it's not summer, it's not fall, it's some hybrid state. Are you still wearing open toed shoes? Sandals?CorinneNo, I'm not.VirginiaOkay. Should I stop, too?CorinneI mean, I'm only not because I'm cold. It depends on if you're cold. I also think now is kind of the perfect time for socks with sandals.VirginiaMost of my sandals are something between my toes style. CorinneOh, I was thinking, like, socks with Birkenstocks.VirginiaAh! I do have some of the two strap Birkenstocks, and I don't tend to wear them a lot in summer. Maybe I should experiment!CorinneI feel like, when you wear socks with the two strap Birkenstocks, they become really cozy.VirginiaI don't wear them a lot in summer because I don't have particularly wide feet, and they're a little wide on me. But the sock would solve for that! And they would be cozy… all right, I'm going to experiment with this, as part of my shoulder season style.CorinneI'm still figuring out my fall must haves, which is one of my favorite topics. Although I will say I feel like this year I've seen a lot of people posting like, “I don't want to hear about back to school, or I don't want to hear about fall fashion.”VirginiaI have terrible news for people about this podcast. CorinneI feel it's very light hearted. It could be literally anything like, who cares? We are entering fall, so…VirginiaTime is passing.CorinneI am getting cold. I do want to put on socks with my sandals and sweatshirts.VirginiaTrigger warning for anyone who is not available for a fall fashion conversation.CorinneMaybe by the time this comes out, people will be ready.I know this is like florals for spring, but I'm feeling for fall… brown pants.VirginiaWait, what? You're blowing my mind? You've been feeling brown for a little while. CorinneBrown has been ramping up. I'm wearing brown pants right now.VirginiaIs it one of your colors, as a true spring?CorinneWell, I do think there are definitely some camels. And I think brown is preferable to black. So I'm thinking brown pants instead of black pants.VirginiaOh, I don't even know what I'm thinking about pants. I'm thinking frustration with pants. I have my one pair of jeans that I reliably wear. I think I need to order another pair in case they stop making them. I'm at a scarcity mindset point with those Gap jeans. I mean, they aren't going to stop making them. They've had them for years, but I just feel like I need an insurance policy.CorinneDo you fit other Gap pants, or just the jeans?VirginiaI only buy that one pair of jeans. I mean, I generally try not to shop at the Gap because they do not have a plus size section.CorinneBut they do have some really cute stuff.VirginiaIt's gross though! Make it bigger.CorinneIf it fits you, maybe you should buy it.VirginiaCorinne is like, “Or counterpoint, don't take a stand.”CorinneI'm always sending links to my straight-size sister for stuff at the Gap that I think she should buy.VirginiaThey do have some really cute stuff, but it infuriates me that Old Navy can make plus sizes, and Gap cannot, and Banana Republic really cannot. It's just like, hello, class system, capitalism. It's so revolting.CorinneOh, my God. Do you know what else I'm feeling outraged about? I went thrift shopping here a couple weeks ago, and I found some vintage Land's End that was in sizes that they don't make anymore.VirginiaWow, that's rude.CorinneIt was a 4X! So they used to be way more 26/28 or 28/30. So they also, at some point, kind of cut back.VirginiaThey do, at least legitimately have a section called plus size, though.CorinneThey do, but it clearly used to be bigger.VirginiaNo, no, no. I'm not saying it's great. I am wearing my favorite joggers a lot, because I think I'm really resisting the shift back to hard pants.CorinneHow do you feel about trousers, like a pleated trouser kind of pant?VirginiaIs that comfortable for working from home? A pleated trouser?CorinneWell, I feel like they're comfortable because they're kind of baggy but narrower at the bottom, you know?VirginiaI do love a tapered ankle. I also unpaused my Nuuly. And I did get a blue corduroy pair of pants from them that it hasn't been quite cold enough to wear because shoulder seasons. Corduroy, to me is like a real like we are fully in cold weather fabric. And when it's 50 in the morning, but 75 by lunchtime, am I going to be hot in corduroys? I guess I should just start wearing them and see.CorinneAre they jeans style? VirginiaThey're slightly cropped so that's another reason to wear them now, while I can still have bare ankles. They're slightly cropped and slightly flared, and they're like a royal blue corduroy.They're Pilcro, which is an Anthropologie brand and I know we feel gross about Anthropologie. But when it comes to pants, I think Corinne is saying we can't have moral stances because pants are so hard to find. Other things, yes.CorinneIt's just hard.VirginiaI'm not excited about clothes right now. I want to feel more excited. Maybe I need to think about what my fall must haves are. Maybe I need to make a pin board or something.CorinneI think that's a good idea. Is there anything you're feeling excited about? I remember the last episode you were talking about those Imbodhi pants.VirginiaOh yeah. They've really become lounge around the house pants, and they're great, but they're very thin. Imbodhi feels like a brand you could not wear once it gets cold.Although, the jumpsuit I have from them in periwinkle—which does feel like a very summery color to me—I also got black. And over the summer it felt a little too black jumpsuit. It felt like too formal or something. But I've been enjoying it as a transition piece. I am still wearing it with sandals. I think it would look cute with maybe my Veja sneakers, though, and then layering over my denim shirt from Universal Standard, like open over it.I'm glad we're talking about this, because that's what I'm going to wear to back to school night tomorrow night, which is a high pressure dressing occasion.CorinneI can see that.VirginiaYou don't want to look like you tried too hard, but you also don't want to look like you came in pajamas. Lots of yoga moms, a lot of pressure. Okay, I'm going to wear that black jumpsuit. I'm glad we talked about that. That's been a good transition piece.CorinneYeah, okay, well, speaking of transitions, I want to ask you about something else. Are you familiar with the Bechdel Test?VirginiaYes.CorinneDon't you think we should have a Bechdel test for anti-fatness? And/or diets? Like, does this piece of culture have a fat character who's not the bad guy, or on a weight loss journey, or being bullied for their size?VirginiaOohhh… OK, so what would our terms be? They can't be the fat villain.CorinneWell, I feel like there's one list for anti fatness, and one would be a piece of culture or whatever that doesn't discuss dieting or weight loss. And I don't know if it should all be one under one Bechdel test umbrella, or if it should be two different tests.VirginiaI feel like it's related. Wait, I need to look up the actual Bechdel Test criteria.CorinneIt's like, does the movie have two female characters talking about something other than a man.VirginiaThe work must feature at least two women.They must talk to each other. And their conversation must be about something other than a man.I was just watching Your Friends and Neighbors, that new John Hamm show about super rich people stealing from each other, and it's very entertaining, but it fails the Bechdel test so dramatically. It's got Amanda Peet in it! She's so smart and funny, and all she does is talk about her ex husband and how much she loves him. And I'm just like, fail, fail, fail. Anyway, okay, I love this idea.CorinneSo it's like, does it have a fat character?VirginiaWait, I think it should have more than one fat character.CorinneThat bar is too high. I feel like we have to be able to name something that passes the test. And what are we calling the test? The Burnt Toast Test?VirginiaWe can workshop names in the comments.CorinneWe need a famous fat person to name it after, maybe.VirginiaWell, I guess Allison Bechdel named it after herself. So it could be the Fay test, because you did this. The Corinne Fay test.CorinneOh, God.So it has to have one fat character, they have to talk about something other than weight loss, and they can't be the villain.VirginiaI would like them not to be the sidekick, too. I think it's a central fat character.CorinneCan we name anything that passes?VirginiaShrill by Lindy West. And Too Much. Well, Lena Dunham doesn't totally pass the Bechdel Test, but she passes the fat test.CorinneSee, it gets very complicated. This is intersectionality!VirginiaWe strive for an intersectional world where the shows pass all the tests. This is such an interesting topic. I love this.CorinneI was also thinking about it because on my drive out, I read two of these Vera Stanhope mysteries. Have you read any of these?VirginiaI have not.CorinneThe main detective woman is fat, and I feel like it' mostly fine. Like, 90% of the time they're just talking about her, she's fat, and she's sloppy. She's a sloppy fat person. And then, like, occasionally, there'll be like, a sentence or two where I'm like, Ooh, I didn't like that.VirginiaIt's so deflating when you have something that's seeming good, and then it takes a turn on you real fast.CorinneSo would that pass the the fat Bechdel Test? Or whatever? Probably would.VirginiaBecause it's as good as we can get.CorinneShe's the main character and not talking about dieting, really.VirginiaYeah, wait, so where does it fall apart for you?CorinneI should have brought an example, but I feel like occasionally there will be narration about her, and it's suddenly like, “her body was disgusting,” you know? VirginiaOh God! I was thinking she maybe lumbered, or she sat heavily, or something. And you're like—CorinneYes. She sat heavily, that kind of thing. And I'm like, okay, sure.But occasionally there's just a twinge where I'm like, oh, you do kind of hate fat people.VirginiaI would then like that author to read Laura Lippman's work. Because Laura Lippman—regular Burnt Toasty! Hi, Laura!—has been doing such good work as a thin author to really work on her fat representation. And I just read Murder Takes a Vacation, which is one of Laura's most recent novels, and it's such a good read. Her protagonist, Mrs. Blossom, I believe was previously a side character in other novels who now has her own book. And the way she writes about body stuff in there is like… Laura's been doing the work. She's been really doing the work. It for sure, passes the Fay Fat Test.CorinneThat's awesome.VirginiaSo everyone check that out. And I would like Ann Cleeves to be reading Laura Lippman.Should we talk about airplanes? Are you in a safe space to talk about airplane feelings?CorinneSure. Yes.VirginiaCorinne was just quoted in The Washington Post, which is very exciting, alongside Tigress Osborne, friend of the show, Executive Director of NAAFA, about how Southwest Airlines is changing their passenger of size policy. Do you want to brief us on what's happening there?CorinneSo Southwest has had a policy in which a “customer of size,” meaning a person who doesn't fit between two plane arm rests, can book two seats and be refunded for the second seat. Or you could show up at the airport day of, and ask for two seats. And not have to pay up front and then be refunded.And in the past couple of months, this policy has somehow gotten really wobbly. I've heard all these anecdotal stories about people showing up at the airport and having Southwest tell them, “You're not going to be able to do this anymore.” Like, don't expect to show up and be able to book a second seat. You need to do it in advance. Blah, blah, blah.Now Southwest has come out and said they're changing the policy. They're also implementing assigned seating, which they didn't used to have. So going forward, you are going to have to book two seats in advance, and you will only be refunded if there are empty seats on the plane. Which, when are there ever empty seats?VirginiaThere are never empty seats on the plane? Never happens.I don't understand, because you needed two seats before, you still need two seats. So why does it matter whether there's an empty seat or not? My brain breaks trying to follow the logic.CorinneI think the logic says like they could have sold the second seat to someone else.VirginiaBut then they're not selling seats that work for people who are paying money to be there. Like, they're taking your money, but if you can't fit on the plane, then they just took your money. It's so shady,CorinneAnd people who don't need a whole seat don't pay less.VirginiaOver the age of two, your children do not get discounts for the fact that, they are using a third of a seat. You pay the same price for a child. CorinneYep. It's really sad, and it's making life harder and sadder for a lot of people.VirginiaI'm curious if another airline will step up on this. I think NAAFA has been doing a good job of making noise about this. I think people are putting pressure on them. It will be interesting if someone else realizes this is like a marketing opportunity.CorinneI think, they absolutely will not.VirginiaWell, I'm not naive enough to think someone would do it just because it's the right thing to do. But I'm hoping maybe one of Southwest's direct competitors would realize it's an opportunity.CorinneBut I think that Southwest previously was the that airline. I think they were using that to their advantage, and now I think they've just been like, “It's not worth it.” I think Alaska has the same policy where you can book two seats, and then if there is an empty seat, they'll refund it.VirginiaWell that's great because Alaska flies so many places, people need to go.CorinneWell, if you're in the if you're in the part of the country where I live, they do! But.VirginiaOh! That's good to know.CorinneI think they're more on a competition level with Southwest versus like United or something, right? I don't think United or Delta even has a customer of size policy.VirginiaThey've never cared.CorinneThere's no way to even book a second ticket for yourself, even if you want to just straight up pay for it.VirginiaIt leaves you the option of figuring out if you can afford business class to have a bigger seat. And that makes flying so much more expensive.CorinneRight? And it's also just like, does business class fit everyone? Probably not.VirginiaWell, we're mad about that, but I did, like seeing you in the Washington Post article saying smart things. So thank you. Thanks your advocacy.Let's see what else has been going on… The Guardian had this interesting piece, which I'm quoted in a little bit, by Andrea Javor. She's articulating something I've seen a few people starting to talk about, which is the experience of being on Ozempic and not losing weight from it.And I think this is an interesting kind of under the radar piece of the whole GLP1s discourse. Some folks are non-responders, whether because they stay on a lower dose by choice, and it improves their numbers, but they don't really lose weight, or some folks just don't really lose weight on it. Her piece really articulates her feelings of shame and failure that this thing that's supposed to be a silver bullet didn't work for her.CorinneWhen I started reading the piece, I was extremely confused, because the the author has diabetes, but type one diabetes, and these drugs don't help with type one diabetes. She eventually goes on it, just for weight loss. So what it didn't work for was weight loss, And I think it actually may have ended up helping with her, like A1C, and stuff. I agree that it does a good job of looking at the feelings that come along with that. And I do think, this does happen, and it's not being talked about as as much as it's happening probably.VirginiaIt feels important to highlight it in this moment where we have Serena Williams talking, about her husband's telehealth company and promoting her use of GLP1s. And we had a great chat on Substack chat about the whole Serena Williams of it all. So I won't rehash that whole discourse here. I also think that's a conversation where I want to hear from Black women. Chrissy King wrote an incredible piece. I also really appreciated the conversation that Sam Sanders, Zach Stafford and Saeed Jones had on Vibe Check about it. So, I don't need to get into Serena's personal choices. But it does mean, we have another huge, very admired celebrity pushing into the conversation again to say, “This is this magic trick. This is the thing I was always looking for. It finally worked for me” And we are all vulnerable to that messaging. So it's important to read stories like this one and understand oh, it really doesn't actually work for everybody. Setting aside whether we think people should be pursuing weight loss, this isn't necessarily going to be guaranteed, amazing results. CorinneAnother interesting article that I thought maybe would want to mention is the the one in The Cut about ARFID.VirginiaThis was a great cover story in New York Magazine. The headline is The Monster at the Dinner Table, and it's basically just encapsulating that ARFID has really been on the rise in recent years, and I think a lot of that is just because now we know what it is and we can diagnose it.But it did include a pretty interesting discussion of what causes kids to lose the instinct to eat, what things get in the way of it. Like, it can be trauma, it can be a feature of autism. It can be a choking experience, all sorts of different things.CorinneARFID is one of those conditions that I feel like I barely knew about before TikTok, and then I've just seen so much stuff about it on Tiktok.VirginiaIt only became a diagnosis in 2013, so it's very, very new. My kiddo would have been diagnosed with it, if it was more fully in the vernacular at that point, but it wasn't. So we were just told it was a “pediatric feeding disorder” type of thing. But it was very vague.I think it's great it's getting more attention. Both for kids and adults. It can be such a source of anxiety and shame for parents. It is so much work. It is very difficult, and it's harder than it should be because of diet culture, because of all the pressure put on parents to feed our kids certain ways. The backlash against ultraprocessed foods is really not helping anyone navigate ARFID. I can't underscore that enough, really not helping. No one needs to feel shame about your kid living on chicken nuggets or frozen burritos or whatever it is.CorinneThe amount of stigma against people who eat certain ways is nuts.VirginiaIt's nuts and it's sad.CorinneYeah it's socially isolating.VirginiaIt is harder to share, right? It's very socially isolating, and it's sad for the people around them. Anytime you're navigating eating together with someone with food restrictions, it does create barriers and extra work and more you have to navigate.But if we didn't have that layer of stigma over it, where it's like, it's probably the mom's fault, if only they like more whole foods at home, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Like, if we didn't have all of that, you could focus just on the logistics are hard enough. You don't need the shame.So many sad topics. Airlines are terrible. Virginia doesn't have any clothes to wear. ARFID is sad. Do we have anything to bring it up?CorinneWell, our exciting news? VirginiaOh, right! We are working on some very fun things.It is exciting to think about new directions that Burnt Toast and Big Undies are going in. So stay tuned. Don't worry, it's not a reality TV show.ButterVirginiaOkay, my Butter is adjacent to the wardrobe frustration conversation. Which is: I have started cutting the collars off a lot of my shirts.To back up: Last month, I'm on vacation in Cape Cod with my sister, and she comes down looking extremely cute. She's wearing a graphic tee tucked into a long maxi skirt. And I was like, “This whole thing is delightful. What's happening here?” And she was like, “Well, this shirt was actually too small for me, but I realized if I just cut the collar off it, it opened up the neck enough that then the shirt, the whole shirt fit better.” And she could still wear this cute shirt. And she said she got the idea from watching Somebody Somewhere, because Bridgett Everett cuts the collars off all her shirts.CorinneOh yes! That was my signature look when I was 18. A Hanes T-shirt with the collar cut off.VirginiaI'm dressing like 18-year-old Corinne, and I'm here for it! But I've realized, frequently a place that something doesn't fit me is my neck. I've talked about feelings about chins and necks. I have many complicated feelings about chins and necks. This is one place where my fatness sits. So the shirt might otherwise fit okay, but it doesn't fit my neck, and then it feels tight and it's a miserable feeling. So at the end of our trip, I wanted to buy a Cape Cod sweatshirt, because there were some really cute sweatshirts. But they were not size inclusive. So I was like, can I make this extra large work? And it was a little small, but I cut the collar off, and now it's okay.And then I did it with my old Harris Walz T-shirt from the election. It was a cute stripe. I just really liked the stripe. And I was like, Oh, I could still wear this if I get the collar off it. And a couple other things. I've just been, like, cutting collars off shirts that are uncomfortable. I'm into it!CorinneI think that's a great Butter. I'm into any kind of clothes modification that will make you wear stuff that you wouldn't otherwise wear.VirginiaIt was a good solution for a couple of things in my closet that I did like, but I was not reaching for. And now I'll use them again. And the key I figured out, because I experimented with a couple ways to cut it, is really just cut right along the seam of the sewed on collar. You might think that's going to not open it up enough, but it will stretch once you start wearing it. you could always cut more if you needed to, but that seems to have done it for me.CorinneOkay, well, I want to recommend a recipe, and I feel like I possibly mentioned this before. I'm staying with my mom, and we've been making this recipe from the New York Times called stuffed zucchini, and it's a really good recipe for if you have a surplus of zucchini, which a lot of people do this time of year. You kind of scoop out the middle of a zucchini and then mix some of that together with, like, sausage, tomatoes, basil, and then put it back in the zucchini and bake it with, like, some crispy breadcrumbs, and it's so good. I can literally, eat a whole zucchini in one sitting. Highly recommend.VirginiaThat sounds amazing. All right. Well, that makes me a little more excited about the season.CorinneYeah, it is a very good time of year for eating. We should have talked more about food maybe?VirginiaThat is a good point. Our tomatoes in the garden are going gangbusters. I've made some great sauces. I'm having a lot of cheese and tomato sandwiches. toasted and not toasted. Delightful.Well, this was a good family meeting catch up. I think we've covered a lot of ground. I'm excited to hear what folks are feeling about their dressing issues, and airlines, all the stuff we got into today.The Burnt Toast Podcast is produced and hosted by Virginia Sole-Smith (follow me on Instagram) and Corinne Fay, who runs @SellTradePlus, and Big Undies—subscribe for 20% off!The Burnt Toast logo is by Deanna Lowe.Our theme music is by Farideh.Tommy Harron is our audio engineer.Thanks for listening and for supporting anti-diet, body liberation journalism!. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit virginiasolesmith.substack.com/subscribe

In this bonus episode, Weight For It host, Ronald Young Jr. joins the hosts of Text Me Back (Lindy West and Meagan Hatcher-Mays) for a discussion about the Netflix docuseries Fit For TV: The Reality of the Biggest Loser.   It certainly was a docuseries...yikesSupport Text me Back  on Patreon and check out their YouTube channel as wellJoin us in Boston for our live conversation with Katie Sturino of Mega Babe on October 30th.  Tickets available now!Weight For It will return soon...

This week we have something delicious for our BBLs. We're doing one big round juicy segment with our angel/tormentor Big Ron aka Ronald Young Jr.!!!!The topic? The Biggest Loser documentary Fit for TV. Which brings us to...

We're so excited to have the incredible hosts of Text Me Back and real life best friends, Lindy West & Meagan Hatcher-Mays, on the pod with us this week. We wade in a whole new territory with a vampire story. And then a classic disembodied voice mystery! Plus, we have a listener story from Lindsey about a visit from some benevolent ancestors. Please send us your own true paranormal experiences in either a voice memo or e-mail to funnyfeelingpod@gmail.com.  SpectreVision Radio is a bespoke podcast network at the intersection between the arts and the uncanny, featuring a tapestry of shows exploring creativity, the esoteric, and the unknown. We're a community for creators and fans vibrating around common curiosities, shared interests and persistent passions. ⁠⁠spectrevisionradio.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What's up, Gaylords?? (← texas reference)This week, Lindy and Meagan hit the dusty trails again with their tiny influencer mics. That's right. These two BBWs take BBW flights to Dallas, Texas for Podcast Movement, the only movement. And where else would they rest their gorgeous heads but at THE Gaylord Texan? The place where the DALLAS COWBOY CHEERLEADERS live??So we're networking, we're being networked at, we're eating chicken, we're eating pickles. A-plot? No spoilers, but it involves a zip line. Plus, Lindy's SECRET b-plot/MYSTERY!!!

You won't believe who we have on the podcast today. She's a Phillies fan and a Gritty stan

Hi besties! This week Lindy and Meagan are here with Tidings (vole/shrew updates), Two Minutes Hate (featuring a special guest and piping hot takes on a certain astrophysicist), and SO MUCH MORE (aka we already forgot what we talked about!).One thing we cannot forget, however…the dangerous influence of publicly spent white lady tears. White ladies…you be careful with that shit mmkay? Meagan is on edge, in awe, and low-key traumatized, sweeties. Write in with your own white lady tears stories by leaving us a voicemail at (703) 829-0003! And we leave you with yet another dope beat to step to, and we're calling it: what the hell is going on with the moon??? It's a mystery only one podcast is solving (googling) and it's happening right here, baby. Tell us more moon conspiracies by emailing us deartextmeback@gmail.com.NEVER LISTENED TO THE POD BEFORE? HERE IS YOUR STARTER KIT TO BEING BFFS WITH US!Missed our Connor Blades intro? Listen to: Lindy and Meagan Alienate Bestie Guesties Liz Feldman and Jessi KleinListen to our moon zip code debacle in Lindy and Meagan Tell State Secrets (we think this is moon zip code? Listeners write in!)Meet Kevin in: Lindy and Meagan Need to Talk About KevinLearn why they keep saying BBW in Lindy and Meagan Are Officially BBWsDiscover the Kayak Dad Lore in: It's Our First Episode!WE NEED OUR ACCOLADES! It helps people find the show.⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ (5 stars only please) on Spotify⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ (5 stars only please) on Apple PodcastsGive us Rave Reviews and Accolades on Apple Podcasts! REAL LIFE EXAMPLE: “#1 segment jingles.”ANDREA.LOVES.HIKING WE LITERALLY COULD NOT AGREE MORESTUFF TO CHECK OUT:Check us out on Bechdel Cast!Check us out on Glamorous Trash!Check us out on Forever 35!NEWSLETTER ME BACK (A FREE WAY TO SUPPORT THE SHOW!)Listen Ad-Free by joining our $12 Patreon tier Freakaconda!Check out the Text Me Back Venmo!!!Check out Meagan's latest installment of SWAMP PERSONSubscribe to Lindy's newsletter butt news!Join our Discord! We're obsessed with these people.Check out our MERCH so we can make MORE merch!! (Patrons get a discount, so check us out at patreon.com/textmebackpod)⋆｡°✩⋆｡°✩⋆｡°✩⋆｡°If you like this episode and want us to keep making the show forever, please subscribe to our Patreon. This podcast will always be free, but we need your help to produce it -- and if you support our Patreon, you'll get all kinds of goodies in addition to the show itself! Learn more about the different tiers and rewards here: https://www.patreon.com/TextMeBackPodAlso! Please keep in touch with us! You can text OR CALL us at the Best Friend Party Phone: (703) 829-0003.We're on Instagram at @textmebackpod!You can email us at deartextmeback@gmail.com!WE WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU SO BAD!⋆｡°✩⋆｡°✩⋆｡°✩⋆｡°TEXT ME BACK is a production of Lindy West and Meagan Hatcher-Mays, proud members of the BFF Network. Our senior producer is Meagan Hatcher-Mays. Our other senior producer is Lindy West. Our show is produced by Alli Slice.Our music is by Chief Ahamefule J. Oluo. Diana Bowen is our video and creative advisor. Our digital strategist is Chance Nichols.You can also follow the podcast on Instagram and TikTok @textmebackpod. And for even more bestie content, follow Lindy and Meagan on Instagram at @thelindywest and @importantmeagan!⋆｡°✩⋆｡°✩⋆｡°✩⋆｡°See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

We're back, sweeties! Can you believe? Lindy is dying to know: how ARE you??This week we are joined by new best friends Liz Feldman and Jessi Klein! We're here to titillate, entertain, and alienate these two (of the famed Here to Make Friends podcast). You know Dead to Me. You know Big Mouth. You're gonna be obsessed with these two, but WE GOT HERE FIRST SO BACK OFF.But first, it has been a minute and so we must TIDE!!! Lindy comes with vole tidings with major updates/plot twists. And we sneak in a mini Whatcha Watchin' under the tidings banner too! Are you obsessed with Task Master? Tell us your every thought, bruvs! (703) 829-0003!Feel free to join our discord (via the Patreon) to talk to us about glomming, maintaining friendship, and how you make real friends! Is it poop transplant? We're thinking it must be poop transplant. Speaking of! We earnestly would like to know: if you got a poop transplant from your bestie, what trait/skill/personality disorder would YOU hope to get from them? We think that would be nice to know. Email us at deartextmeback@gmail.com.NEVER LISTENED TO THE POD BEFORE? HERE IS YOUR STARTER KIT TO BEING BFFS WITH US!Meet Kevin in: Lindy and Meagan Need to Talk About KevinLearn why they keep saying BBW in Lindy and Meagan Are Officially BBWsDiscover the Kayak Dad Lore in: It's Our First Episode!WE NEED OUR ACCOLADES! It helps people find the show.⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ (5 stars only please) on Spotify⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ (5 stars only please) on Apple PodcastsGive us Rave Reviews and Accolades on Apple Podcasts! REAL LIFE EXAMPLE:“The first thing I look for on Thursdays is this podcast. From two seriously funny people who speak from the heart and are not looking for anyone's approval. A friend sent me this pod because it reminded her of our friendship where we laughed non-stop through tribulations and good times. If your soul needs a warm hug, head to Text me back.”ALLISONBY **YOU'RE** THE FIRST THING WE LOOK FOR EVERY THURSDAY

This week we are coming to you live (kinda) with the Seattle stop of our recent tour, with guests Lindy West and Sir Mix-a-Lot! Lindy talks about her successful throuple, Mix shares stories of his laser cutter and his neighbor Igor, and more! They give advice to an audience member trying to overcome the Seattle freeze, react to a few secrets, and help another audience member find love in the game of dating (not at all The Dating Game). Submit your deepest secrets to the Endless Honeymoon Secrets Hotline: (213) 222-8608 and ask Natasha and Moshe for relationship advice: endlesshoneymoonpod@gmail.com. SPONSORS: http://wayfair.com/ http://www.functionhealth.com/HONEYMOONArya.fyi (use code HONEYMOON)http://tempomeals.com/honeymoon See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In our inaugural Viral Article Hall of Fame episode, Chelsea welcomes "Text Me Back!" hosts Lindy West and Meagan Hatcher-Mays to dig into one of the wildest viral articles of all time: Vanity Fair's How Sarma Melngailis, Queen of Vegan Cuisine, Became a Runaway Fugitive. They recap the story that inspired the Netflix doc "Bad Vegan," unpack revelations from Sarma's self-published memoir, and explain how Alec Baldwin is somehow involved. Plus: clapbacks at body-shamers and the infamous pizza order that led to Sarma's arrest. A content warning: This episode contains discussions of sexual abuse, abortion, and body image. Take care while listening and find helpful resources here. Join the cookie community: Become a member of the Patreon Follow Chelsea: Instagram @chelseadevantez Show Notes: Pre-Order Lindy's new book “Adult Braces” How Sarma Melngailis, Queen of Vegan Cuisine, Became a Runaway Fugitive (Vanity Fair) Bad Vegan (Netflix) Bad Vegan, Part Two? (Grub Street) Where to find our guests, Lindy West and Meagan Hatcher-Mays : Listen to the Text Me Back! Podcast Lindy's Instagram Meagan's Instagram Text Me Back Instagram Support Text Me Back on Patreon *** Glamorous Trash is all about going high and low at the same time— Glam and Trash. We recap and book club celebrity memoirs, deconstruct pop culture, and sometimes, we cry! If you've ever referenced Mariah Carey in therapy... then this is the podcast for you. Thank you to our sponsors: Thrive Causemetics - Get 20% off your first order at thrivecausemetics.com/glamorous Everyplate - Get a special offer of only $1.99 a meal at everyplate.com/podcast and use code GLAMOROUS199 Libro.fm - Click here to get 2 audiobooks for the price of 1 with your first month of membership using code TRASH. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

You guysssssss, guess whaaaaat?? We're basically back! We are thrilled to share the long lost Popeye segment recorded in a special tin can! Forget everything you THOUGHT you knew about Popeye the Sailor Man! Lindy is bringing justice to a long-forgotten character who is ACTUALLY the reason that little freak is so strong.We also share a mysterious file titled SPIDERS that Lindy and Meagan too are hearing for the first time! Spider-fearing vegans sound off in the comments but be nice because remember we do not like PETA but we DO like you so long as you're nice to us!!!!But before we get into that…a mini bonus tiding we're calling VOLE PATROL. What shall we name this slow little guy???This episode is sponsored by Magic Mind! Get 60% off the Magic Mind offer here: https://magicmind.com/textmemm or by using the code TEXTME60 upon checkout. #magicmind #mentalwealth #mentalperformanceNEXT WEEK WE'LL BE BACK FOR REAL FOR REAL! CAN YOU EVEN BELIEVE IT??? NEVER LISTENED TO THE POD BEFORE? HERE IS YOUR STARTER KIT TO BEING BFFS WITH US!Meet Kevin in: Lindy and Meagan Need to Talk About KevinLearn why they keep saying BBW in Lindy and Meagan Are Officially BBWsDiscover the Kayak Dad Lore in: It's Our First Episode!WE NEED OUR ACCOLADES! It helps people find the show.⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ (5 stars only please) on Spotify⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ (5 stars only please) on Apple PodcastsGive us Rave Reviews and Accolades on Apple Podcasts! REAL LIFE EXAMPLE:“Told my best friend - often makes me laugh so hard i can't see and/or feel physically ill. can't risk taking a drink of water while show is on. XOXOXO”RAINYAPT WE NEVER DRINK WATER JUST FOR THIS REASON - BE SAFE OUT THERE!!!!STUFF TO CHECK OUT:This episode is sponsored by Magic Mind! Get 60% off the Magic Mind offer here: https://magicmind.com/textmemm or by using the code TEXTME60 upon checkout. #magicmind #mentalwealth #mentalperformanceNEWSLETTER ME BACK (A FREE WAY TO SUPPORT THE SHOW!)Listen Ad-Free by joining our $12 Patreon tier Freakaconda!Check out the Text Me Back Venmo!!!Check out Meagan's latest installment of SWAMP PERSONSubscribe to Lindy's newsletter butt news!Join our Discord! We're obsessed with these people.Check out our MERCH so we can make MORE merch!! (Patrons get a discount, so check us out at patreon.com/textmebackpod)⋆｡°✩⋆｡°✩⋆｡°✩⋆｡°If you like this episode and want us to keep making the show forever, please subscribe to our Patreon. This podcast will always be free, but we need your help to produce it -- and if you support our Patreon, you'll get all kinds of goodies in addition to the show itself! Learn more about the different tiers and rewards here: https://www.patreon.com/TextMeBackPodAlso! Please keep in touch with us! You can text OR CALL us at the Best Friend Party Phone: (703) 829-0003.We're on Instagram at @textmebackpod!You can email us at deartextmeback@gmail.com!WE WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU SO BAD!⋆｡°✩⋆｡°✩⋆｡°✩⋆｡°TEXT ME BACK is a production of Lindy West and Meagan Hatcher-Mays, proud members of the BFF Network. Our senior producer is Meagan Hatcher-Mays. Our other senior producer is Lindy West. Our show is produced by Alli Slice.Our music is by Chief Ahamefule J. Oluo. Diana Bowen is our video and creative advisor. Our digital strategist is Chance Nichols.You can also follow the podcast on Instagram and TikTok @textmebackpod. And for even more bestie content, follow Lindy and Meagan on Instagram at @thelindywest and @importantmeagan!⋆｡°✩⋆｡°✩⋆｡°✩⋆｡°See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Another perfectly timely conversation with pop cultural commentary that remains at the top of everyone's minds!!!!This week we resurface a Patreon Exclusive and bring it to the masses. Comedian Guy Branum, BEST friend of the show, sat down with Text Me Back co-host Lindy West for a TMB Patreon Exclusive conversation about the Netflix hit series BABY REINDEER. These geniuses explore VITAL questions such as: Is it good for the fats? Is it good for the gays? What is the duty of art? Is it always bad to do drugs and have sex at a gay club or is it sometimes very fun? Would Lindy be more successful if she had her brain but the abs of Jillian Michaels? Or Jillian Michaels's brain but the abs of an actual reindeer? ALL THIS AND MORE IN THIS EXCLUSIVE FIRESIDE FAT/CHAT! WE ARE STILL ON BREAK FOR A COUPLE MORE WEEKS but we hope you enjoyed this little treat. Another quiet week in the news, we're sure! CEO who?NEVER LISTENED TO THE POD BEFORE? HERE IS YOUR STARTER KIT TO BEING BFFS WITH US!Check out our other ep with Guy: Lindy and Meagan Demand Hollywood Secrets from Guy Branum (Live!)Meet Kevin in: Lindy and Meagan Need to Talk About KevinLearn why they keep saying BBW in Lindy and Meagan Are Officially BBWsDiscover the Kayak Dad Lore in: It's Our First Episode!WE NEED OUR ACCOLADES! It helps people find the show.⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ (5 stars only please) on Spotify⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ (5 stars only please) on Apple PodcastsGive us Rave Reviews and Accolades on Apple Podcasts! REAL LIFE EXAMPLE:“The first thing I look for on Thursdays is this podcast. From two seriously funny people who speak from the heart and are not looking for anyone's approval. A friend sent me this pod because it reminded her of our friendship where we laughed non-stop through tribulations and good times. If your soul needs a warm hug, head to Text me back.”ALLISONBY YOURS IS THE ONLY APPROVAL WE NEED!!!!!STUFF TO CHECK OUT:Follow Guy, duh! Check out the full vid of this convo on Youtube: https://youtu.be/wVRr_JcMeiYNEWSLETTER ME BACK (A FREE WAY TO SUPPORT THE SHOW!)Listen Ad-Free by joining our $12 Patreon tier Freakaconda!Check out the Text Me Back Venmo!!!Check out Meagan's latest installment of SWAMP PERSONSubscribe to Lindy's newsletter butt news!Join our Discord! We're obsessed with these people.Check out our MERCH so we can make MORE merch!! (Patrons get a discount, so check us out at patreon.com/textmebackpod)⋆｡°✩⋆｡°✩⋆｡°✩⋆｡°If you like this episode and want us to keep making the show forever, please subscribe to our Patreon. This podcast will always be free, but we need your help to produce it -- and if you support our Patreon, you'll get all kinds of goodies in addition to the show itself! Learn more about the different tiers and rewards here: https://www.patreon.com/TextMeBackPodAlso! Please keep in touch with us! You can text OR CALL us at the Best Friend Party Phone: (703) 829-0003.We're on Instagram at @textmebackpod!You can email us at deartextmeback@gmail.com!WE WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU SO BAD!⋆｡°✩⋆｡°✩⋆｡°✩⋆｡°TEXT ME BACK is a production of Lindy West and Meagan Hatcher-Mays, proud members of the BFF Network. Our senior producer is Meagan Hatcher-Mays. Our other senior producer is Lindy West. Our show is produced by Alli Slice.Our music is by Chief Ahamefule J. Oluo. Diana Bowen is our video and creative advisor. Our digital strategist is Chance Nichols.You can also follow the podcast on Instagram and TikTok @textmebackpod. And for even more bestie content, follow Lindy and Meagan on Instagram at @thelindywest and @importantmeagan!⋆｡°✩⋆｡°✩⋆｡°✩⋆｡°See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Bestselling author Lindy West and her best friend, democracy policy expert Meagan Hatcher-Mays, join Doree and Elise to tell us about Text Me Back, their show about making your favorite people laugh. Along the way they also discuss the life changing magic of hydrating with electrolytes, their summer plans involving hot Doritos at the beach and doing as little as possible, and a super cute moment where they both hype each other up as only best friends can. To leave a voicemail or text for a future episode, reach Doree & Elise at 781-591-0390. You can also email the podcast at forever35podcast@gmail.com.Visit forever35podcast.com for links to everything they mention on the show or visit shopmyshelf.us/forever35.Follow the podcast on Instagram (@Forever35Podcast) and sign up for the newsletter at forever35podcast.com/newsletter. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

We're awake, we're awake! That's right, Lindy and Meagan are WIDE AWAKE and here to share a super special previously-only-found-on-Patreon episode from our After Dark series! And this week (aka many months ago) we're talking about Britbox, baby.BUT FIRST, we have to talk about Whatch We're Readin'! Thank you to our lovely Discord/Patreon participants for sending us the “where to start with Terry Prachett” starter kit. We want to know what you're reading! Join the chat already patreon.com/TextMeBackPod.And that brings us across the pond to brih-ish telly, Meagan bravely admits to watching 14 seasons of Death in Paradise, and Lindy tries to explain how a show called Bargain Hunt is actually queer canon. PLEASE call in with your thoughts and recommendations for more British slop, bruvs! Text OR CALL us at the Best Friend Party Phone: (703) 829-0003.And last but(t) not least…toilet plume theory. We need more evidence, and we regret to invite you to email us your thoughts at deartextmeback@gmail.com!WE ARE STILL ON BREAK FOR A COUPLE MORE WEEKS but we hope you enjoyed this little treat. We're pretty sure nothing major could be happening in the news, so we hope this was respite from your easeful stress-free boredom.NEVER LISTENED TO THE POD BEFORE? HERE IS YOUR STARTER KIT TO BEING BFFS WITH US!Meet Kevin in: Lindy and Meagan Need to Talk About KevinLearn why they keep saying BBW in Lindy and Meagan Are Officially BBWsDiscover the Kayak Dad Lore in: It's Our First Episode!WE NEED OUR ACCOLADES! It helps people find the show.⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ (5 stars only please) on Spotify⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ (5 stars only please) on Apple PodcastsGive us Rave Reviews and Accolades on Apple Podcasts! REAL LIFE EXAMPLE:“Lindy, our famous PNW Norwegian and writer, and Meagan, notes Swamp Person and Kayak Dad frustrater, get together every week to share Normal News, talk about how we can fix her, and give you reasons to text your friends.”KRISTENARNTZEN TEXT US ANY TIME BESTIESTUFF TO CHECK OUT:“Matriarch,” by Tina Knowles The “Tiffany Aching” series by Terry Pratchett Death in Paradise on Brit Box NEWSLETTER ME BACK (A FREE WAY TO SUPPORT THE SHOW!)Listen Ad-Free by joining our $12 Patreon tier Freakaconda!Check out the Text Me Back Venmo!!!Check out Meagan's latest installment of SWAMP PERSONSubscribe to Lindy's newsletter butt news!Join our Discord! We're obsessed with these people.Check out our MERCH so we can make MORE merch!! (Patrons get a discount, so check us out at patreon.com/textmebackpod)⋆｡°✩⋆｡°✩⋆｡°✩⋆｡°If you like this episode and want us to keep making the show forever, please subscribe to our Patreon. This podcast will always be free, but we need your help to produce it -- and if you support our Patreon, you'll get all kinds of goodies in addition to the show itself! Learn more about the different tiers and rewards here: https://www.patreon.com/TextMeBackPodAlso! Please keep in touch with us! You can text OR CALL us at the Best Friend Party Phone: (703) 829-0003.We're on Instagram at @textmebackpod!You can email us at deartextmeback@gmail.com!WE WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU SO BAD!⋆｡°✩⋆｡°✩⋆｡°✩⋆｡°TEXT ME BACK is a production of Lindy West and Meagan Hatcher-Mays, proud members of the BFF Network. Our senior producer is Meagan Hatcher-Mays. Our other senior producer is Lindy West. Our show is produced by Alli Slice.Our music is by Chief Ahamefule J. Oluo. Diana Bowen is our video and creative advisor. Our digital strategist is Chance Nichols.You can also follow the podcast on Instagram and TikTok @textmebackpod. And for even more bestie content, follow Lindy and Meagan on Instagram at @thelindywest and @importantmeagan!⋆｡°✩⋆｡°✩⋆｡°✩⋆｡°See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Okay faithful listeners!! DON'T PANIC but this is the last episode before our summer break! We hope you too are preserving your sanity in whatever way you can. But don't worry! We will still be doing podcast stuff like guesting on other pods, recording with a few fabulous guests for Text Me Back, releasing our free newsletter NEWSLETTER ME BACK, and god forbid taking a few big long naps. And we'll also give you a few fun things in the feed to make sure you don't ghost our asses for good. Our first segment we're calling RrrATS! And it's all about Lindy's dream haircut–you'll never guess what the main feature of her new ‘do is. Want to see it visually? Check out our Instagram at @textmebackpod and don't forget that we now have full length vids on the Youtube! Thanks to our amazing Patrons who made that possible!Next, we have a segment you all know and love called CRAZY LADY LIVIN' IN A BAG. Lindy breaks down why she doesn't like it when people ask her how Meagan is doing. How is she DOING? REALLY BAD!!!!!!! How is the book coming along? It's FINE. We're technically alive?? If you listen to the podcast, you're as caught up as we are!We then calm down and turn to a Whatcha Watchin'! The answer won't surprise you: not one but TWO Titan Submersible docs. Scroll down and follow our links to our previous Titan Submersible convos

First up, Amy Klobuchar…did our BBW invite get lost in the mail? Did we bump our heads and forget that we were honored attendees?? Ames??????But headlining this episode is a BRAND NEW *I CAN FIX HER* JINGLE!! Thank you listener Krista!!! We simply had to share it and therefore are reporting on that which is fixing us. Namely wax strips and a certain piece of non-religious literature sent by an anonymous Tom ;)Next, our values are up for grabs–is the short stubby screw worm a snake? Call in with your thoughts (703) 829-0003 or vote in the Spotify poll! Plus, a conspiracy/mystery we want your thoughts on. “New Drivers” are grifting our asses??? We don't believe you! You can't ALL be new here, we won't stand for it! You're gonna start getting cut off from those stickers AND cut off in traffic, sweeties. Prepare yourselves

This week, we're happy to report that Hat Girl Summer continues with some incredible reporting from the Grace Jones concert that Meagan attended. HAT. She made friends with all the sapphics and twinks so sometimes life is still good??? BTW happy pride, listeners! If you're reading this you're officially a little GAY (complimentary!!!!!!!!!!!)And from there, we get into some classic Pre-Taped Call-In show news where we break down news that is still definitely relevant and the most important thing going on right now!!! What could happen between two Thursdays in 2025? Sidenote: to bridge that eternal gap we launched a FREE newsletter: NEWSLETTER ME BACK. But for real, remember when we were reading bitchy social posts flying between the literal USA president and the actual richest person on the earth? Wasn't that a sweet and tender time? Sorry it's been roughly 1000000 years since this happened but we simply MUST talk about Elon, Trump, Epstein accusations, and sooo much more. Guysss don't fight in front of Kayne and JD!! BTW did you know that the Chancellor of Germany kicked this thing off?? Ooooo Friedrich Merz, you messy-ass Regina George! Meow! And what do you think–is Lindy allowed to add one (1) Tr*mp phrase “verrrrry rich” to the media board? Vote on Spotify, or let us know on the Discord over at patreon.com/textmebackpod.NEVER LISTENED TO THE POD BEFORE? HERE IS YOUR STARTER KIT TO BEING BFFS WITH US!Meet Kevin in: Lindy and Meagan Need to Talk About KevinLearn why they keep saying BBW in Lindy and Meagan Are Officially BBWsDiscover the Kayak Dad Lore in: It's Our First Episode!WE NEED OUR ACCOLADES! It helps people find the show.⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ (5 stars only please) on Spotify⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ (5 stars only please) on Apple PodcastsGive us Rave Reviews and Accolades on Apple Podcasts! REAL LIFE EXAMPLE OF A BAD REVIEW–BBLS UNITE TO HELP US RECOVER FROM THIS 1 STAR:“Let's just ramble for ten minutes and have the audacity to call it a podcast. Oh, but first we'll have you listen to our sponsors before we even begin the show.”SELEBRATE (Mike Cernovich dat u?) JOIN OUR $12 PATREON TIER FOR AD FREE EPISODES ;)STUFF TO CHECK OUT:NEWSLETTER ME BACK (A FREE WAY TO SUPPORT THE SHOW!)New $12 tier is live! Hop on over to Patreon to check out our new name

This week, Lindy wears a hat!!!!It's Hat Girl Summer, and Lindy is patient zero. We know that could be the whole episode, BUT we have business to discuss. We have landed on a name for our $12 Patreon tier. Hint: It's NOT Big Beautiful Listeners, but you miiiight just see BBL designated to something else in the near future. We love love loved hearing from you all on the Patreon. Never stop pitching us names and your weird little ideas over at patreon.com/textmebackpod!Next on the docket, we have a Whatcha Watchin' where Meagan shares her thoughts on Mission Impossible: Final Reckoning. Spoiler: it f*ckin' ROCKS. Tell us your Tom Cruise trivia and MI thoughts via the BFF Party Phone at (703) 829-0003. Strangely, Lindy categorizes yet another worm under the Normal News category instead of Snake of the Week??? What is she trying to say???? Notes app apology in progress?And finally, it's Segment Pubes, where Lindy and Meagan process the eldritch horror that is Elon Musk stepping down from his unelected ketamine-drenched government puppet master role. It's just another week with your BBLs and BBWs. Sign up for the newsletter, subscribe to the Patreon, tell us how you're processing everything in the world, and always remember: hat.NEVER LISTENED TO THE POD BEFORE? HERE IS YOUR STARTER KIT TO BEING BFFS WITH US!Revisit the first appearance of Dr. Freek Vonk and Freekaconda in Lindy and Meagan have Died of DysenteryMeet Kevin in: Lindy and Meagan Need to Talk About KevinLearn why they keep saying BBW in Lindy and Meagan Are Officially BBWsDiscover the Kayak Dad Lore in: It's Our First Episode!WE NEED OUR ACCOLADES! It helps people find the show.⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ (5 stars only please) on Spotify⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ (5 stars only please) on Apple PodcastsGive us Rave Reviews and Accolades on Apple Podcasts! REAL LIFE EXAMPLE:“Inspiring, silly, so good! Thanks Meagan and Lindy. Best podcast ever.”SHMADS23 **YOU'RE** THE BEST PODCAST EVER!!!!STUFF TO CHECK OUT:NEWSLETTER ME BACK (A FREE WAY TO SUPPORT THE SHOW!)New $12 tier is live! Hop on over to Patreon to check out our new name

Important Mormon intel. A correction re: our innate sense of rhythm. The FaT ShoT DruG (that isn't working). A new installment of Liam Neeson, Help! Lindy has been TAKEN by a Toxic Man: Debit Card Edition. Plus, our buried headline: Meagan's Wikifeet. Apparently, Meagan has a robust and active page all to herself, leading Meagan to book the first flight available to space with Gayle and the gang to escape this reality. In space, no one can see your feet. And fan favorite segment I Can Fix Her is back! Here are our picks of the week!Carnation instant BreakfastMilk FrotherInternational Delight spray cold foamSpecial shoutout to listener Hannah! Thank you for sharing your insights into the Mormon Sealing Ceremony! If we could, we'd seal to you right now (non-evil category). Unfortunately, we might want to shoot our shot with that rich Mormon lady and apparently we can only seal to one person

We would like to humbly announce that we are ✨ready ✨ to accept that Golden Globe for Podcasting despite them not being particularly interested!!! We won't let that stop us

Ayyy no Nazi Pope! We'll never put ketchup on a hot dog again!We're on a new beat today called RELIGION

This week, Lindy is dying :/ Bye girl!!!But the show must go on! So this week we are releasing a very special episode. An abridged semi-exclusive limited release Very Special Episode previously only heard on our Patreon! That's right. It's 2 Shrill 2 Furious: Portland Drift—our rewatch series of Shrill. Specifically, we're talking about the Pool Party episode written by the incredible Samantha Irby. And you're gonna lose it, but we are joined by NONE OTHER than Sam Irby HERSELF.We're talking about fangirling over Mary Cherry aka Leslie Grossman, jokes that were tragically cut, witches that didn't make the final ep, lines that were all improv, and everything else we could remember about this (don't mind if we say) honestly iconic episode.And because we are sneaky little snakes we cut half the content and are reposting the FULL thing on our Patreon as a bid for your wallets! Join us for as little as $1/mo, or as extravagantly as $12/mo. We promise it's worth it. Hop over there to about Advil lady, crepe truck, Brazilian cheese balls, floormates: Manifest, big boy chair, and earnest thoughts

We have so many new delights to share with you. First off, we're GORGEOUS?? Lindy washes her bangs and Meagan is absolutely slathered in rouge. Tune into our socials to see the evidence of this glow-up/looks-maxxing, and let us know if it's worth all the effort @textmebackpod on IG. And we also share a BFF endorsement/reunion story that means everything to us!! This is your invitation to send every episode of Text Me Back to your bestie.Plus, there are some major updates to our Whatcha Watchin'. Lindy is on a new beat called Baldur's Gate 3, and her reporting doesn't even make Meagan reach for her dissociation goggles! We stan Toadus with (or without) any shape of peen ✨. Meanwhile, Meagan brings on the sultry magic of icon Luther Vandross. We are GOING TO GINO'S for dinner.Did YOU give us the famous butter bell or hand-crafted mugs? We want to hear from you (again)! You're too good to us!!! Write to us at deartextmebackpod@gmail.com or call the BFF Party Phone (703) 829-0003 to tell us who the heck you are, you perfect angels! And if YOU want to get Lindy and Meagan on a Greyhound from New York to LA, here's how: if we get 50 new Patreon subscribers this week, we'll friggin do it! www.patreon.com/textmebackpod.NEVER LISTENED TO THE POD BEFORE? HERE IS YOUR STARTER KIT TO BEING BFFS WITH US!Listen to all about Lindy's famous radio personality grandpa in The Killer Comes for Lindy's GrandpaLearn about Meagan's pickle journey starting here in Lindy and Meagan are even better BBWs in 2025I Can Fix Her Segment: Butter Bell edition in Lindy and Meagan Have the Normal Number of OrgansMeet RFK's brain worm, Janine, in Lindy and Meagan Agree: RFK Jr.'s Brain Worm Is NOT a Girls' Girl!Meet Kevin in: Lindy and Meagan Need to Talk About KevinLearn why they keep saying BBW in Lindy and Meagan Are Officially BBWsDiscover the Kayak Dad Lore in: It's Our First Episode!WE NEED OUR ACCOLADES! It helps people find the show.⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ (5 stars only please) on Spotify⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ (5 stars only please) on Apple PodcastsGive us Rave Reviews and Accolades on Apple Podcasts! REAL LIFE EXAMPLE:“My favorite podcast!”MSPERSIMMON YOU ARE A CLEAR AND CONCISE QUEEN AND WE THANK YOU FOR THAT. STUFF TO CHECK OUT:Baldur's Gate 3Luther Vandross: Never Too Much documentary trailerLuther absolutely wrecking Whitney Houston, Stevie Wonder, and Dionne Warwick in their rendition of That's What Friends Are ForCheck out our ongoing Text Me Biki!Check out the Text Me Back Venmo!!!Check out Meagan's latest installment of SWAMP PERSONSubscribe to Lindy's newsletter butt news!Join our Discord! We're obsessed with these people.Check out our MERCH so we can make MORE merch!! (Patrons get a discount, so check us out at patreon.com/textmebackpod)⋆｡°✩⋆｡°✩⋆｡°✩⋆｡°If you like this episode and want us to keep making the show forever, please subscribe to our Patreon. This podcast will always be free, but we need your help to produce it -- and if you support our Patreon, you'll get all kinds of goodies in addition to the show itself! Learn more about the different tiers and rewards here: https://www.patreon.com/TextMeBackPodAlso! Please keep in touch with us! You can text OR CALL us at the Best Friend Party Phone: (703) 829-0003.We're on Instagram at @textmebackpod!You can email us at deartextmeback@gmail.com!WE WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU SO BAD!⋆｡°✩⋆｡°✩⋆｡°✩⋆｡°TEXT ME BACK is a production of Lindy West and Meagan Hatcher-Mays, proud members of the BFF Network. Our senior producer is Meagan Hatcher-Mays. Our other senior producer is Lindy West. Our show is supported by COPILOT Collective and produced by Alli Slice.Our music is by Chief Ahamefule J. Oluo. Diana Bowen is our video and creative advisor. Our digital strategist is Chance Nichols.You can also follow the podcast on Instagram and TikTok @textmebackpod. And for even more bestie content, follow Lindy and Meagan on Instagram at @thelindywest and @importantmeagan!Special thanks as always to our perfect angels: Jeannie Yandel, Brandi Fullwood, and Isolde Raftery.⋆｡°✩⋆｡°✩⋆｡°✩⋆｡°See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Lords: * Jenni * Rebecca * https://toots.ravenoak.dev/@rebecca * Weft Magazine: https://www.weftmagazine.com/ Topics: * Getting emotionally ambushed by a children's toy piano * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8g8fzwmnw8M * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvhdHkugIPE * All the non-art things you have to do to get external validation about your art * Explaining where owls come from * The Witches are Coming (excerpt) by Lindy West * https://playingintheworldgame.com/2021/11/15/the-witches-are-coming-by-lindy-west/ * Ask Me About Loom(s in video games) * Festive gazelles, vampire christmas, and the rest of the christmas card project: https://ravel.me/ggggbbybby/swc * What's a gamp? https://ravel.me/ggggbbybby/js2cawg * In case you need comfy fingering in your life: https://www.knitpicks.com/yarn/comfy-fingering/c/5420197 * The ravelry forum where we play old-lady Minecraft: https://www.ravelry.com/discuss/warped-weavers Microtopics: * Weft: for weavers! * The Weft Zone. * A two and a half foot piano with five notes on it. * Are you the width of your arm? * Pushing a button to increase your team's number. * A white paper about how to not get a divorce when you go to burning man together. * Teaching kids all the animal names, even the ones they'll never encounter, like how we used to teach kids all the state capitals even for the states they'll never visit. * A bird with polka dot wings that could fly over the sea, and John Legend sings about it. * Expecting your child to eventually go through every age. * Now that your kid is 40, he can clean the poop from his own balls. * The umbilical cord being connected to weird meat inside your body. * Kidney bean figures connected by glowing blue lines in the astral plane. * Being paid to stay at home and solve puzzles on you computer. (And go to Zoom meetings.) * All the non-art things you need to do to get your art out there. * The Loom on Loom Island. * Exhibiting at Maker Fair and explaining how a loom works 50,000 times. * Happy last year's birthday! I made you something and it took me this long to finish it. * Getting a fanbase who has a parasocial relationship with you and having to pretend not to be a crotchety asshole. * What it takes to run a personal Mastodon instance. * Getting a call from the school and they're like "your instance isn't federating with the other instances, we need you to come pick it up." * Explaining to a six year old about sexual reproduction, DNA, mutations, and speciation so you can explain where owls come from. * Explaining to your baby that talking is when an organ vibrates in your throat that makes the air vibrate, but he doesn't know what air is, he thinks there's an ether. * What music you can play with the pentatonic scale. * Poko the cockatiel sitting Totoro. * The intern at the mobile factory who spent an afternoon downloading a hundred bootleg MIDIs so that the mobile plays. * Tooting the bad cone inside the house. * The person who would be playing the trumpet in your relationship. * Seeing someone knitting incorrectly in a TV show. * Patching better jokes into the hat DLC. * Using a sequence of transpilers to get your code from point A to point B. * People who make game engines wanting your to touch the engine as much as possible. * Wanting to declare a global variable and the developers say you can't do that but they point you to the bespoke language feature that does the same thing as global variables but in a much more complicated way. * Playing the Frog Fractions text adventure with a gamepad. * Funny looking pirates who are secretly advertisements. * Kidney beans, swans, and other delicious things. * Learning a song from a dye pot that turns things green. * A piano guitar that you just press on. * Showing your husband the Wikipedia page that proves that you hobby exists and he's like "anybody can edit Wikipedia." * Making a sculpture of the Eiffel tower without looking at any references and it ends up just being a letter A with the word "Paris" written nearby. * A coked-up knitting machine. * Spring has sprung so sprang your sprang. * Heddles and treadles and gamps. * Some of your best Comfy Fingering, please. * Basic Sour. * Smelling things in your mouth. * Getting tired of sucking your baby's snot through a tube and getting an electric appropriate. * Starting up Morrowind and being immediately presented with a guy who has a bad case of Bethesda Face. * The thirteen games that have looms in them. * The looms in Assassin's Creed being kind of historically accurate because Ubisoft's whole thing is being kind of historically accurate. * Subscribing to a service that periodically sends you different swatches of cloth so you can disassemble them and figure out how they're woven. * Festive Gazelles. * Happy Vampire Christmas! * Forum drama on Ravelry that ends up with the web designer no longer being allowed to talk directly to customers. * Creative mode for Minecraft except for a bunch of old ladies. * If you lose your bird bone just wait for another bird to hit your window. * Magazines as extremely slow podcasts. * Updating your gender and getting rid of your loser middle name while you're at it.

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Hello faithful Text Me Backolytes and welcome new listeners (we're sorry in advance to newbies! You could not have chosen a more wild starting place, but you'll catch on fast!). Today Lindy and Meagan kick off with a humble but necessary installment of Department of Corrections: Peter Edition. Apparently one of these colonizing yahoos from last week did, in fact, step foot in Washington State–but don't worry, we've decided to make that one a bonus Q so you can still graduate 8th grade. But the question remains: WHICH Peter from last week is the lucky boy to bless this mess? Tune in to find out.Then it's straight into Dog Thoughts, where we learn that Barry is a secret alpha?? You been listening to Joe Rogan, Bar???? Apparently, our gentle copper king does toxic male behavior at a public gathering and no amount of bully sticks–with or without Lindy's signature flavoring–can calm him down. Meanwhile, back at the Pennsylvanian Dutch Farm that is Meagan's condo, Kevin screams at ghosts in the living room. The vibes are unwell.And finally, the most Normalest News: Dire wolves have a moment in the sun before the reality of the situation is understood (GMO wolves are a little less cool to market than Dire Wolves so we don't NOT get it, but girl we need healthcare so can we focus, or????). And to round out our Normal News segment, Meagan brings us intel that people are body-shaming a mascot. SO NORMAL. Ellie the Elephant, we love you and you owe us NOTHING besides several headstands, fierce braid swings, and a liberal twerking of that ass on that court.And our 95%ers are in for a treat at the end where Lindy offers an unsolicited rotation of impersonations!!!!! You literally do not have to stick around and we're flummoxed every time you do!NEVER LISTENED TO THE POD BEFORE? HERE IS YOUR STARTER KIT TO BEING BFFS WITH US!Learn what they ACTUALLY put in bully sticks in Lindy and Meagan Start a Wikifeet Retirement Plan! Revisit the first appearance of Dr. Freek Vonk and Freekaconda in Lindy and Meagan have Died of DysenteryMeet Kevin in: Lindy and Meagan Need to Talk About KevinLearn why they keep saying BBW in Lindy and Meagan Are Officially BBWsDiscover the Kayak Dad Lore in: It's Our First Episode!WE NEED OUR ACCOLADES! It helps people find the show.⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ (5 stars only please) on Spotify⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ (5 stars only please) on Apple PodcastsGive us Rave Reviews and Accolades on Apple Podcasts! REAL LIFE EXAMPLE:“This show is a delight and so hilarious. As someone who used to live in both Seattle and DC, I love that Meagan and Lindy make me miss both places.”FANNTASTIC15 THIS PLACE ISN'T THE SAME WITHOUT YOU COME HOME TO US!STUFF TO CHECK OUT:Lindy's conservation BFF Paul Rosolie on IGBlood-drinking Anti-anti-aging guy storyEllie the Elephant response vid @bigellieliberty Check out Meagan's latest installment of SWAMP PERSONSubscribe to Lindy's newsletter butt news!Join our Discord! We're obsessed with these people.Check out our MERCH so we can make MORE merch!! (Patrons get a discount, so check us out at patreon.com/textmebackpod)Go see our Czar of Sound Force Ahamefule J. Oluo at Madame Lou's on Thursday 4/17!⋆｡°✩⋆｡°✩⋆｡°✩⋆｡°If you like this episode and want us to keep making the show forever, please subscribe to our Patreon. This podcast will always be free, but we need your help to produce it -- and if you support our Patreon, you'll get all kinds of goodies in addition to the show itself! Learn more about the different tiers and rewards here: https://www.patreon.com/TextMeBackPodAlso! Please keep in touch with us! You can text OR CALL us at the Best Friend Party Phone: (703) 829-0003.We're on Instagram at @textmebackpod!You can email us at deartextmeback@gmail.com!WE WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU SO BAD!⋆｡°✩⋆｡°✩⋆｡°✩⋆｡°TEXT ME BACK is a production of Lindy West and Meagan Hatcher-Mays, proud members of the BFF Network. Our senior producer is Meagan Hatcher-Mays. Our other senior producer is Lindy West. Our show is supported by COPILOT Collective and produced by Alli Slice.Our music is by Chief Ahamefule J. Oluo. Diana Bowen is our video and creative advisor. Our digital strategist is Chance Nichols.You can also follow the podcast on Instagram and TikTok @textmebackpod. And for even more bestie content, follow Lindy and Meagan on Instagram at @thelindywest and @importantmeagan!Special thanks as always to our perfect angels: Jeannie Yandel, Brandi Fullwood, and Isolde Raftery.⋆｡°✩⋆｡°✩⋆｡°✩⋆｡°See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

If you thought Lindy's train adventure was an unhinged delight YOU ARE IN FOR A TREAT. This week it's Meagan who hits the dusty trail on a trek from Washington, (District of Columbia) to Washington (State). Meagan bravely Dale Coopers her whole ass off with that tiny influencer mic. Along the way she endures a mid-flight beef with her evil auntie doppelganger, being bullied by her brother, and a fight for her life over a Caesar salad.And not to brag but some pretty good stuff happens along the way too. Meagan learns what the youth are into (Fortnite). We get to hear from iconic BFFs Ingrid and Ella and learn the true meaning of lifelong friendship (matching outfits). And Lindy and Meagan solve a decades-old mystery of The Killer on the Burke Gilman trail (hello, young man

This week, Lindy and Meagan submit a heartfelt notes app apology. We are so sorry to all the snakes and worms and devoted listeners out there. To help mend some of these shattered fences, we bring you not just one…but THREE Snakes of the Week

Who is better: Nicolas Cage or John Travolta? Text Me Back co-hosts Lindy West and Meagan Hatcher-Mays return for this live debate from On Air Fest! Lindy argues that Cage has much more range on-screen and is far less controversial off-screen. Meagan (who used to run a John Travolta hate page on MySpace) points out that Travolta is a triple threat: Oscar-nominated actor, dancer, and singer with four top-40 hits. How will Ronald Young Jr. rule? And will the live audience agree? Follow Lindy @thelindywest on Instagram and Meagan @importantmeagan on Instagram. Keep up with Ronald Young Jr. @OhitsBIGRON on X and Instagram. And stay up to date with us @LemonadaMedia on X, Facebook, and Instagram. For a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this and every other Lemonada show, go to lemonadamedia.com/sponsors. Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our shows and get bonus content. Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Lindy is running on the fumes of borrowed youth, and Meagan is one (1) glass of wine deep. This is the opposite of a Magic Mind episode where we're cool collected cucumbers and we're calling it Tipsy Back Podcast!Lindy brings tidings from the So True Hype House, where Lindy desperately tries to impress her young comedy crushes, starts a group chat she may or may not be kicked out of, and endures a self-imposed spiral of rarely-seen proportions. Next…we asked and you delivered, friends! Ghost grandpas, sweaty side-hugging men offering some armchair psychiatry, and the CREEPIEST sandbar cult man we've ever heard of

Mike & Jess B Davies of the Femme On Collective joins Mike to talk about smutty romantasy, abroad weddings and getting out of a “reading rut”! In more detail, the duo's conversation starts with Jess' involvement in the Femme On Collective, before delving into their love of reading and processing hard times & grief. They then discuss “Romantasy”, including ACOTAR & Fourth Wing and Jess “Being In Her Thirsties” with her podcasts Literature For Life (Femme On) and The Romantasy Coven and reading ruts. Towards the end, Jess asks Mike about his Vegas wedding with Megan and they discuss the benefits of abroad weddings! This is the perfect conversation for any avid readers, or people who want to get back into reading, and anyone interested by non-traditional weddings! Instagram: @Jess_BDavies (www.instagram.com/jess_bdavies) - Jess' “Bang Average Blog”: https://bangaverageblog.substack.com Femme On: http://femmeon.show & @FemmeOnCollective (Instagram) Romantasy Coven: https://romantasycoven.transistor.fm & @TheRomantasyCoven (Instagram) Jess' podcast appearances: ADHD Cast: https://pod.fo/e/226f22 (March) & https://pod.fo/e/232403 (April) Where I'm From: Jess (81): youtube.com/watch?v=4YlnEVTRpHg & Mike (80): youtube.com/watch?v=kl-E9a-6XIo&t=670s Books mentioned; A Court Of Thorns And Roses by Sarah J. Maas, Fourth Wing (Empyrean series) by Rebecca Yarros, Still Life by Sarah Winman, Shrill by Lindy West, Life Of An MP by Jess Phillips, One Dark Window by Rachel Gillig and A Psalm Of The Wind-Built by Becky Chambers. Mike also mentions Babel by R.F. Kuang and his conversation about God with Tonya & BZ in ep 188 of GCC: https://pod.fo/e/16bf58 Jess also mentions the podcast Tell Me Something Messy by Brandon Kyle Goodman. If you want to support the show, get bonus content every week and get early access to episodes, support on Patreon: www.patreon.com/GenuineChitChat  The last episode of GCC was a double movie review special, the week prior was a talk about Canada and summer camp with Alex and the week before was another addition to the Clone Wars Legacy Project! Mike appeared on Spider-Dan & The Secret Bores for their top 5 small cast movies, listen here: https://pod.fo/e/289237  Mike also appeared on Spider-Dan's pod with Megan, talking Princess Diana in Spencer: https://pod.fo/e/2916c6  Find all of Mike's social media & other links at https://linktr.ee/GenuineChitChat Please review/rate, subscribe and share – it helps the show out an incredible amount! Intro by Tony (A.R.) Farina: www.arfarina.com and outro by BZ The Voice www.bzthevoice.com

Welcome to another classic episode of Text Me Back, where Lindy and Meagan, two self-appointed kings, tackle the most pressing issues of our time. See agenda below:FIRST AGENDA ITEM: Buggies. Meagan bullies a neighbor by sending another round of live bugs to a stranger's building. And friends…there is potentially a third round of bugs en route. The only real downside is that this is accidental bullying and Meagan may have to leave the D.C. area :/NEXT UP: We're checking in on Lindy's Rebuilding Year! Wikifeet Update: We Don't Feel Safe!!! And to the person who uploaded 72 photos of Lindy's feet…thank you? We think?? Either way the score has CHANGED. Tune in to see what Lindy's rating is now! Are you a Wikifeet growth hacker? Tell us your top tips by texting or calling the Best Friend Party Phone: (703) 829-0003.AND AFTER THE BREAK: Normal News. Bioluminescent pig butt worms and reptile smuggling. Need we say more? We're gonna say more. Thank you to everyone sending in Normal News–never stop DMing us @textmebackpod.Plus, a correction on last week's Sir Topham Hatt / George Carlin conspiracy (we regret the error), a heartfelt thank you to MagicMind for keeping Lindy off coffee, and an urgent item for cougars to weigh in: Would Lindy jogging in the woods activate your predatory instincts? Email us at deartextmeback@gmail.com.This episode is brought to you by Magic Mind!!! We're happy wakey girls with the help of these little juiceys!!!!!!!! Get your Magic Mind subscription here: https://magicmind.com/textmebackYou get up to 48% off with our code: TEXTMEBACK20NEVER LISTENED TO THE POD BEFORE? HERE IS YOUR STARTER KIT TO BEING BFFS WITH US!Check out Part 1 of Lindy's Wikifeet arc: Lindy and Meagan Start a Wikifeet Retirement PlanRevisit the first appearance of Dr. Freek Vonk and Freekaconda in Lindy and Meagan have Died of DystentaryOr even better, catch our first-ever drop of the Freek Vonk song in Lindy and Meagan Get DraftedMeet Kevin in: Lindy and Meagan Need to Talk About KevinLearn why they keep saying BBW in Lindy and Meagan Are Officially BBWsDiscover the Kayak Dad Lore in: It's Our First Episode!WE NEED OUR ACCOLADES! It helps people find the show.⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ (5 stars only please) on Spotify⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ (5 stars only please) on Apple PodcastsGive us Rave Reviews and Accolades on Apple Podcasts! REAL LIFE EXAMPLE:“Current events have put me off a lot of my normal pods but never Text Me Back! They are deftly weaving between the absolute chaos of the current administration and unbridled goofiness and that's exactly what I need right now. So funny!!”TAIT25 WE ARE DEFTLY WEAVING ALL OVER YOU!!!

This week we continue a-milkin' that New York cow! Um, excuse us? We are walking here. Meagan and Lindy make a brave break from their cozy hotel room into the NYC winter night to watch Drag Race at a local bar/mystery tent and meet THE Thorgy Thor camping out in there! Somebody go back in time, call our elder care facility, and tell them to bring us a knit blanket! Have you ever experienced a winter chill? DM us Y/N @textmebackpodAnd next, we add a sexy twist to our age-old Segment P.U.B.E.S. This week we're calling it Segment P.U.B.E.S.: Crazy Lady Living in a Bag. Two guesses as to who the crazy ladies are. Won't you join us in our bag? Tbh we get a little real here because it's BAD out there, and the badness is all by design. (Check out Meagan's latest installment of SWAMP PERSON for more thoughts on “What are you allowed to be mad about?”)And ultimately we're gonna have to make room for more crazy ladies in our bag. We'll shove aside the orange peels, used tissues, old receipts, and empty hand sanitizer bottles to welcome in anyone who wants to fight alongside us for something better–and we're going to do our best to give them one of our crumbled cookies to welcome them in. If we're gonna turn the tides of fascism, it'll be with the help of misguided voters AND at least one annoying guy with a rinky-dink sign. We wanna know what you're mad about and what you're doing to resist! Email us at deartextmeback@gmail.com.Finally, a plea to the Text Me Backolytes: bring back the ghosts! Lindy and Meagan demand more supernatural content, and the listeners must deliver. Call in with your spookiest ghost encounters (or just a story about a scary man in a car, that counts too). Leave us a voicemail at (703) 829-0003.NEVER LISTENED TO THE POD BEFORE? HERE IS YOUR STARTER KIT TO BEING BFFS WITH US!Check out last week's train episode Lindy and Meagan Choo Choo Choose Chaos! Ad-free extended version (featuring Meagan and The Wizard!) on our Patreon! patreon.com/textmebackpodMeet Kevin in: Lindy and Meagan Need to Talk About KevinLearn why they keep saying BBW in Lindy and Meagan Are Officially BBWsDiscover the Kayak Dad Lore in: It's Our First Episode!PIG DNA EPISODEGlass brain/Pig brain moment references this episode Lindy and Meagan Corner the Zombie Pig DemographicWE NEED OUR ACCOLADES! It helps people find the show.⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ (5 stars only please) on Spotify⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ (5 stars only please) on Apple PodcastsGive us Rave Reviews and Accolades on Apple Podcasts! REAL LIFE EXAMPLE:“I feel like I'm listening to my friends when I'm listening. Found them from their extremely hilarious guest spot on Normal Gossip and was hooked. Never have I laughed so hard at a podcast. Highly recommend the field reporting episode with Lindy on the train, or any of the episodes where they talk about LOTR. Keep em coming!”RGG530 WE ARE GOSSIPING ABOUT HOW MUCH WE LOVE YOU RN!!STUFF TO CHECK OUT:“Being annoyed is the price of community”Check out Meagan's latest installment of SWAMP PERSON for more thoughts on “What are you allowed to be mad about?”Subscribe to Lindy's newsletter butt news!Join our Discord! We're obsessed with these people.Check out our MERCH so we can make MORE merch!! (Patrons get a discount, so check us out at patreon.com/textmebackpod)⋆｡°✩⋆｡°✩⋆｡°✩⋆｡°If you like this episode and want us to keep making the show forever, please subscribe to our Patreon. This podcast will always be free, but we need your help to produce it -- and if you support our Patreon, you'll get all kinds of goodies in addition to the show itself! Learn more about the different tiers and rewards here: https://www.patreon.com/TextMeBackPodAlso! Please keep in touch with us! You can text OR CALL us at the Best Friend Party Phone: (703) 829-0003.We're on Instagram at @textmebackpod!You can email us at deartextmeback@gmail.com!WE WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU SO BAD!⋆｡°✩⋆｡°✩⋆｡°✩⋆｡°TEXT ME BACK is a production of Lindy West and Meagan Hatcher-Mays, proud members of the BFF Network. Our senior producer is Meagan Hatcher-Mays. Our other senior producer is Lindy West. Our show is supported by COPILOT Collective and produced by Alli Slice.Our music is by Chief Ahamefule J. Oluo. Diana Bowen is our video and creative advisor. Our digital strategist is Chance Nichols.You can also follow the podcast on Instagram and TikTok @textmebackpod. And for even more bestie content, follow Lindy and Meagan on Instagram at @thelindywest and @importantmeagan!Special thanks as always to our perfect angels: Jeannie Yandel, Brandi Fullwood, and Isolde Raftery.⋆｡°✩⋆｡°✩⋆｡°✩⋆｡°See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Unearthed from their On Air Fest goodie bags, Lindy and Meagan discover little teensy influencer microphones! And if you know how jazzed one host in particular gets about the media board, you can guess what this means–absolute unhinged chaos aka a cross country FIELD TRIP!

Today, Lindy and Meagan are recording this episode in their most natural state: lying down.That's right–these two sleepy gals are broadcasting from a very fancy Big Fig mattress at On Air Fest in Brooklyn, NYC aka DA BIG APPLE. And they're not alone! They're in bed with the biggest grifter in the biz, a legendary podcast king and professional menace…Ronald Young Jr. Big Ron gives us the scoop on New York's hottest restaurants (a sexy little local joint~Aplé-beis~), gives us many a glad tiding, and tells us Watch-him Watchin! Are you watching Lady Matlock??? Tell us your thoughts!!! BFF Party Line: (703) 829-0003.If you'd like to keep Meagan licensed to practice law in New York, DONATE $400 TO OUR PATREON patreon.com/textmebackpodDo we really have to watch Beast Games, Suits, or Succession?

Deep-cut audio lore, chaotic jingles, and possibly altering the course of America—just another exceedingly normal episode of Text Me Back.

Ass oil, Dongexploder, and The Puppies! If those words and phrases make sense to you, you've been perusing the Text Me Back Biki and are OBSESSED with us! This week, these two supermodels do the impossible: record a podcast. Lindy goes absolutely feral on the mediaboard, testing the limits of both podcasting and her friendship with Meagan. Meagan has an important mouth update. Lindy is discriminated against AND/OR is herself the perpetrator? Tell us what you think happened in that coffee shop at deartextmeback@gmail.com! And then when you're done with that, contact the EEOC immediately!And last but not least, we have an incredible addition to the friend-canon for our listeners. To help break it down, we also have our first contributor segment with our Czar of Sound Force, Ahamefule J. Oluo!!! WE NEED OUR ACCOLADES! It helps people find the show.⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ (5 stars only please) on Spotify⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ (5 stars only please) on Apple PodcastsGive us Rave Reviews and Accolades on Apple Podcasts! REAL LIFE EXAMPLE:“The best NBA and Doritos couture podcast you'll find! Adore this show and its brilliant, hilarious BBW hosts!”COUTURE YOU SAY? PAINTING NAILS EMOJI!! AGAVE77 WE LOVE YOU MWAHSTUFF TO CHECK OUT:ORTHODOTSDo your deep-dive into The PuppiesText Me BikiSubscribe to Lindy's newsletter butt news, and sign up for her Master Class, How to Be Funny When You're Sad!Join our Discord! We're obsessed with these people.ON AIR FEST! Brooklyn Feb 19-21! Use POP40 for 40% off and come see us!!!Check out our MERCH so we can make MORE merch!! (Patrons get a discount, so check us out at patreon.com/textmebackpod)Check out Meagan's new newsletter, SWAMP PERSON! ⋆｡°✩⋆｡°✩⋆｡°✩⋆｡°If you like this episode and want us to keep making the show forever, please subscribe to our Patreon. This podcast will always be free, but we need your help to produce it -- and if you support our Patreon, you'll get all kinds of goodies in addition to the show itself! Learn more about the different tiers and rewards here: https://www.patreon.com/TextMeBackPodAlso! Please keep in touch with us! You can text OR CALL us at the Best Friend Party Phone: (703) 829-0003.We're on Instagram at @textmebackpod!You can email us at deartextmeback@gmail.com!WE WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU SO BAD!⋆｡°✩⋆｡°✩⋆｡°✩⋆｡°TEXT ME BACK is a production of Lindy West and Meagan Hatcher-Mays, proud members of the BFF Network. Our senior producer is Meagan Hatcher-Mays. Our other senior producer is Lindy West. Our show is supported by COPILOT Collective and produced by Alli Slice.Our music is by Chief Ahamefule J. Oluo. Diana Bowen is our video and creative advisor. Our digital strategist is Chance Nichols.You can also follow the podcast on Instagram and TikTok @textmebackpod. And for even more bestie content, follow Lindy and Meagan on Instagram at @thelindywest and @importantmeagan!Special thanks as always to our perfect angels: Jeannie Yandel, Brandi Fullwood, and Isolde Raftery.⋆｡°✩⋆｡°✩⋆｡°✩⋆｡°See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Lots of news to get into today! First up, we start off with DOG THOUGHTS that includes an absolutely iconic voicemail from a very good husband listener named Gerald. Yes, Gerald, this time we ARE talking about you! If YOU want to tell us more about bull penis use-cases, call the Best Friend Party Phone at (703) 829-0003. And we have a new segment: The Reddit Report! What on Eru's green Middle Earth is friggin HAPPENING around here??? Is it so hard to all agree that literal Nazis are bad and don't belong in our Hobbitty little lives? Don't let them make it normal, precious! What are your favorite NON-Nazi subreddits?? Email us at deartextmeback@gmail.com!And last but not least: We check in on Lindy's Rebuilding Year, which has had some exciting new developments (feet pics

This week we welcome Rafil Kroll-Zaidi, our in-house private eye and bear oil enthusiast, who gives us some pretty hot gossip in this week's Segment P.U.B.E.S. We're learning who these dangerous yahoos are stocking Trump's cabinet, and this week's featured player is:-An alumnus from America's most expensive clown college, Princeton*-A geography novice and a military fangirl-A former Fox & Friends host-A bona fide dick-shooterThat's right, it's P.U.B.E of the week Peter Hegseth! Good luck, girl! We're so scared of you!But that's not all! We talk about idling (bad), Lindy's lil tumble in the shower (funny), the Year of the Snake (good?), and the segment that just won't quit: Xmas Addendum! If you thought LAST week was too late for an xmas addendum, then you better buckle up buddy! Because we have yet another breaking xmas addendum and you won't even begin to guess what the item in question is this week (unless you follow us or Samantha Irby on Instagram). WE NEED OUR ACCOLADES! It helps people find the show.⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ (5 stars only please) on Spotify⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ (5 stars only please) on Apple PodcastsGive us Rave Reviews and Accolades on Apple Podcasts! REAL LIFE EXAMPLE:“I love this podcast. It's like time traveling to High School without actually having to be in high school. The stories, inside jokes and insights are splendid. And they make me laugh until my eyes water every week.”THANK YOU BOOOKISHSARA77! YOU ARE OUR FAVORITE BUT DON'T TELL ANYONE ELSE, K?STUFF TO CHECK OUT:Check out Rafil's piece on dirty stinky idling cars! Link to Lindy's fave ramen and empathy station in NYC Marufuku East VillageText Me BikiAny non-evil social media platforms on your radar? Email us at deartextmebackpod@gmail.comSubscribe to Lindy's newsletter butt news, and sign up for her Master Class, How to Be Funny When You're Sad!Join our Discord! We're obsessed with these people.ON AIR FEST! Brooklyn Feb 19-21! Use POP40 for 40% off and come see us!!!Check out our MERCH so we can make MORE merch!! (Patrons get a discount, so check us out at patreon.com/textmebackpod)Check out Meagan's new newsletter, SWAMP PERSON! *PRINCETON DUNK IS A SIMPSON'S REFERENCE DON'T COME FOR US IF YOU'RE A GOOD AND NICE PRINCETON GRAD LIKE RAFIL⋆｡°✩⋆｡°✩⋆｡°✩⋆｡°If you like this episode and want us to keep making the show forever, please subscribe to our Patreon. This podcast will always be free, but we need your help to produce it -- and if you support our Patreon, you'll get all kinds of goodies in addition to the show itself! Learn more about the different tiers and rewards here: https://www.patreon.com/TextMeBackPodAlso! Please keep in touch with us! You can text OR CALL us at the Best Friend Party Phone: (703) 829-0003.We're on Instagram at @textmebackpod!You can email us at deartextmeback@gmail.com!WE WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU SO BAD!⋆｡°✩⋆｡°✩⋆｡°✩⋆｡°TEXT ME BACK is a production of Lindy West and Meagan Hatcher-Mays, proud members of the BFF Network. Our senior producer is Meagan Hatcher-Mays. Our other senior producer is Lindy West. Our show is supported by COPILOT Collective and produced by Alli Slice.Our music is by Chief Ahamefule J. Oluo. Diana Bowen is our video and creative advisor. Our digital strategist is Chance Nichols.You can also follow the podcast on Instagram and TikTok @textmebackpod. And for even more bestie content, follow Lindy and Meagan on Instagram at @thelindywest and @importantmeagan!Special thanks as always to our perfect angels: Jeannie Yandel, Brandi Fullwood, and Isolde Raftery.⋆｡°✩⋆｡°✩⋆｡°✩⋆｡°See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.