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Check out my Substack Live conversation with Katherine Goldstein, author of How to Find Your People: A Guide to the Transformative Power of Community about the importance of finding or creating community.After watching the replay above, make sure you're following Katherine on Substack at The Double Shift.My upcoming book, Fired Up: How to Turn Your Spark Into a Flame and Come Alive at Any Age, is now available for preorder! This book is my guide to figuring out what lights you up and will show you how to live on fire every day. Click here to preorder and get locked into some incredible bonuses. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit shannonwatts.substack.com/subscribe
The Double Shift's Katherine Goldstein joins Sarah and Miranda to talk about her creative solution to the problem that is American summer, why parents are set up to fail in finding summer care, and how to actively create the kind of community we need to build something better. Links:* The Incredible Things You Can Do Instead of Paying For American Summer Camp* How Other Countries Handle Summer with Kids* Katherine's How to Find Your People Club* Ezra Klein Show - Sabbath and the Art of Rest This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit motherofitall.substack.com/subscribe
Spawned Parenting Podcast with Kristen and Liz of CoolMomPicks
A lot of moms are hitting a phase where our kids get older and we're wondering what the next chapter looks like for us. If you know you can be more fulfilled with your life but don't know where to start, you'll get so many helpful tips from my guest, award-winning journalist Katherine Goldstein She's the founder of The Double Shift, a fellow at The Better Life Lab at New America, and a fierce advocate for moms, families, and gender equity. Tune in to hear us discuss Katherine's popular HuffPost op-ed There's a Life Coach for Everything These Days, and describe the questions to ask yourself before a big pivot. She also has fantastic advice about how to decide whether you need a life coach, career coach, or mayyyybe just a good therapist and community of friends. ----- Support Our Awesome Sponsor: Phyla Skincare: If you struggle with acne or have kids who do, save 25% your first order with code COOLMOM on Phyla Phortify Probiotic Serum. (There's a reason Ryan Reynolds is an investor!) This is the breakthrough, science-backed, derm-recommended, probiotic acne serum that prevents breakouts, all without side effects or harsh chemicals like Accutane. Hard recommend! ----- Our Cool Picks of the Week include a fabulous book just for moms and another Substack community that's especially helpful for women over 40, whether you have kids or not. ---- Follow Spawned: Apple, Spotify, Amazon Find Katherine Goldstein: Website, Substack, Podcast Instagram, Find Liz Gumbinner: Instagram, Substack, Facebook, Threads Shownotes from today's episode: Cool Mom Pick Podcast Page Subscribe for cool picks each week right in your inbox: coolmompicks.com/subscribe/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
This episode we sat down with Katherine Goldstein, author of the Double Shift Newsletter, mom and journalist covering Caregivers in the Workplace. Ahead of Moms in MFG conference on June 13, Katherine talked about parenting, caregivers in America and advice that she has for other working moms. As a journalist, Katherine has researched ways to help caregivers in America and what we can do to transform the workplace.
Welcome to the audio version of The Double Shift newsletter, read by yours truly, Katherine Goldstein.Today's edition is about my big financial decision to switch newsletter platforms, and what it means to “start over.” I'm ready (with my face scrunched and my fingers crossed) to take the risk of asking my existing members to stick with me by taking a few extra steps to sign up again with their credit cards on Substack. I believe what I do is valuable. I want it to reach more people. I want to earn more money for it. If you are new to The Double Shift newsletter, some recent posts you may enjoy are my two-part series: The “Every Family for Themselves” Fight for Summer Camp & How to Make Summer Better for Everyone. Or check out Millennial Dads and The Caregiving Praise Conundrum, Your Working Conditions as A Parent Are Unacceptable, or How to Make Friends as An Adult. If you want more audio newsletters and want to be a part of our community, subscribe now and become a member of the Double Shift. If you have questions or need help with your podcast feed or membership, reach out to us at askthedoubleshift@gmail.com. You can get a one month free trial of The Double Shift newsletter on Substack by going to thedoubleshift.substack.com/listeners or click the button below. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit thedoubleshift.substack.com/subscribe
Katherine Goldstein is the Creator of The Double Shift, a newsletter and community that's a social change laboratory for moms. She is a journalist who writes about mothers, caregivers, and gender equity for the NYTimes, Harvard Business Review, TIME, WashPost, Vox, and more. Katherine is a 2023 care reporting fellow for the Better Lab at New America and a former Harvard Nieman Journalism fellow. She is also a corporate speaker and consultant for companies supporting caregivers. In this episode... Are you struggling to balance being a mother or working? Where can you get the support you deserve to thrive as a working mom or caregiver? Juggling work responsibilities while caring for children or other family members is a challenging experience. Trying to do it all can often lead to guilt or stress for many. Katherine Goldstein says that despite the challenges, it is possible to balance the demands of work as a mom. She shares her journey as a thriving working mom on a mission to make society and workplaces more equitable for moms and caregivers. In this episode of Reclaim Your Career, Jess Galica is joined by Katherine Goldstein, creator of The Double Shift, to discuss how to flourish as a working mom or caregiver. Katherine talks about her professional journey as a high-achieving working mom, how to deal with the caregiving crisis, and the future of caregiving.
Katherine Goldstein is a journalist who writes on mothers, caregivers and gender equity for The NYTimes, TIME, WashPost, Vox and more… while also raising 3 kids (including pandemic twins!). Hear why Katherine is ready to banish the phrase “working mom” and how her return to journalism after a difficult postpartum experience fueled her next career stage. PLUS Katherine is telling us about what it was like going into the podcast business totally cold and what her biggest struggles were when figuring it all out.
The guests on today's show are Eva Dienel and Christine Bader. Eva is a freelance writer, editor and communications consultant with 25 years of experience telling stories that matter. She is the founder of The Life I Want story telling project and Christine has been a contributor to it from 2019 to 2022. Christine is a TED and TEDX speaker, book author, was Amazon's former director of social responsibility and has been teaching students at multiple universities. How to connect with Eva & Christine: Eva Dienel: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eva-dienel-19a8a72/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/EvaDienel Christine Bader: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/christinebader/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/christinebader The Life I Want: https://www.thelifeiwant.co/ What we talked about on the show: 1:55 Where Eva & Christine are calling in from 4:16 Professional background - Eva 10:34 Professional background - Christine 19:08 The Life I Want 44:40 Message for business leaders/ HR leaders Additional resources that were mentioned on the show: Leslie Forde: https://www.linkedin.com/in/leslieforde/ Otter: https://withotter.com/journey Amy Henderson: https://www.amyhenderson.org/the_book Katherine Goldstein: https://www.thedoubleshift.com/ How to reach out to the host, Karin Tischler: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karin-tischler/
Gloria gets a lesson from journalist Katherine Goldstein about why she no longer uses the term “working mother.” Katherine, who is also the founder of The Double Shift newsletter, podcast, and community, explains why the phrase devalues caregiving, and how it creates an artificial barrier between mothers that prevents them from addressing their shared struggles and concerns. Then, Katherine makes the case for year-round public school and 8-hour school days, and debunks the myth that remote work will enable women to have it all. This podcast is presented by Neighborhood Villages, and is brought to you with generous support from Imaginable Futures, Care For All Children by the David and Laura Merage Foundation, and Spring Point Partners. Follow Katherine Goldstein on Twitter @KGeee and on Instagram @thedoubleshift. Subscribe to The Double Shift newsletter here. Katherine also speaks and consults about issues facing caregivers in the workplace. Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium. Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: https://lemonadamedia.com/sponsors/. Laugh, cry, be outraged, and hear solutions! Join our community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/nooneiscomingtosaveus. Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia. For additional resources, information, and a transcript of the episode, visit lemonadamedia.com.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Katherine Goldstein is a journalist and social activist. Her podcast the Double Shift challenged the status quo of motherhood in America. In this episode, she shares the challenges of being in the newsroom as a mother, but also what she has learned from interviewing successful change advocates. One key message is: don't do it alone. Download your free burnout guide on my website www.DrJacquelineKerr.com.
Regardless of your opinions over what we've endured over these past 2+ years, one thing we can all agree on is the fact that this global pandemic has had a profound impact on parents. Nicole Nalepa chats with award-winning journalist Katherine Goldstein who specializes on social and economic issues facing moms. She'll focus on the fallout mothers have been facing both at-home and at the workplace, explore the real challenges, who's hurting the most -- and how we can help each other out.---------------------------------------------SHOW NOTES:Host: Nicole Nalepa | @NicoleNalepaTVGuest: Katherine Goldstein Katherine now writes a weekly newsletter about the forces that shape family life in America, filled with reporting and storytelling: thedoubleshift.com/newsletter. She also just relaunched The Double Shift member community, which is a social change laboratory for moms: thedoubleshift.com/join.You can also follow Katherine on Twitter: @kgeee
We hear so much about Betty Friedan, and the Feminine Mystique. And the whole thing was women find power and fulfillment and identity outside of the home by working professionally. Right? The thing that that leaves out is when you go outside of the home, who’s in the home? Like that work never went away.Hello and welcome to Burnt Toast! This is the podcast where we talk about diet culture, fatphobia, parenting and health.Today I am chatting with Angela Garbes, author of Like a Mother and the brilliant new book Essential Labor. I am a huge fan of Angela’s. We’ve been sort of admiring one another from afar over the internet for several years now, and this is our first IRL conversation (Well, IRL+Zoom, if you will.) We talk a ton about her new book, which is about the social construction of modern motherhood and what we need to do to truly support mothers, but also all caregivers and care work. It’s a really fun and sort of surprisingly funny conversation for what’s a pretty heavy topic. I think you will get so much out of it and even more out of her book Essential Labor, which I really recommend you run right out and get. If you enjoy this episode, please subscribe, rate and review us in your podcast player! And subscribe to the Burnt Toast newsletter for episode transcripts, reported essays, and more.PS. The Burnt Toast Giving Circle is over $11,000! You are all amazing. We will be picking which state election to fund in the next few weeks, so stay tuned for details there. And if you’ve been thinking about joining, we still need you! Here’s the Burnt Toast episode where I announced it, ICYMI, and the link to donate.Episode 43 TranscriptVirginiaSo the new book is just incredible. How are you doing? How are you feeling? AngelaThank you for asking! I’m feeling so many things. I’m feeling tired. I hate to be the person that leads with “I’m tired,” but I feel like writing a book is is a frankly terrible process. I feel like my brain is still sort of recovering from that. And I was on kind of an accelerated timeline. I finished edits on the book in like December/January. And now it’s coming out. But I mean, I’m excited. I feel like I have been cooped up with these ideas and these thoughts for like, two years, and I am ready to like, be on the loose. COVID variants willing, I’m ready to go on tour and connect with people. I’m really desperate for that contact and conversation. So I feel really good. And I feel proud. I feel really proud of the book I’ve written. I’m trying to just hold on to that because amidst all the chaos that is going to happen, and hearing what other people think, I want to always remember how good I feel about this book and how that’s really the only thing that matters.[Virginia Note: So far, people think it’s amazing. Here’s Jia Tolentino and Sara Louise Petersen saying so, among others.]VirginiaYour book is very of the moment. Did the idea come out of the pandemic? Or was it something you’ve been thinking about, because it also ties so closely to your first book?AngelaThe secret history of this book is that I sold a second book right after my first book came out in 2018. It was a book of essays about the human body, like the body as a lens for how we move through the world and how we process the world. I was trying to write that book for two years, and it was due the summer of the pandemic. A couple of weeks into lockdown I contacted my editor and I was like, “There’s no way. There’s no way I can meet this deadline.” I’m a professional, like, I always get it done. And luckily, she was totally understanding because she was like, “I just told my husband, I think I have to quit my job.” So like everyone was going through this thing. So we pushed the deadline back several times. I used to co-host a podcast called The Double Shift with my friend, Katherine Goldstein. She invited me, during the pandemic, to cohost this with her because she wanted to continue to make the podcast during a time in which it felt almost impossible to do it and during a time in which we both felt mother’s voices, and the voices of caregivers, were both vitally important, but on the edge of being erased. And just consumed by domestic work. In September 2020, 865,000 women dropped out of the workforce in one month, because no one could be a caretaker, a virtual school proctor, and a professional worker at the same time. So I said, “women’s participation in the workforce is directly tied to their participation in public life. And what happens if women disappear for a year? Or more?”So, from that lighthearted thought, I had a wonderful editor who reached out to me and she was like, “Do you want to write about this? I want someone to write about it and I think you need to do it.” I had not been writing and I was scared to do it. But I basically put every bad thought I’d been having about disappearing, about feeling unsatisfied by domestic labor, about questioning ambition, about just everything, and I wrote this piece for The Cut that ended up going a little bit viral. Elizabeth Warren retweeted it—career highlight for me. And I realized I’ve been isolated and alone with my depression and my concerns, but I’m not alone. So many people are feeling this way now, as everyone’s trying to force us out of the pandemic. Which, facts to the contrary. These problems aren’t going away. Childcare, figuring it out on your own. Our society’s treatment of mothers and care work. We have not solved that problem. It is a longstanding problem that we have never properly reckoned with. So that’s a very long answer to how I wrote this book. The one nice thing about it is that there’s a lot about embodiment in this book. And while I was not unfortunately able to cannibalize everything from the first book, it did feel good because all of that research that I had done that I couldn’t figure out how to make it work. A lot of that research and some snippets of writing made it into this book. And it also made me feel like everything I’ve been doing has not been a waste of time.VirginiaYou give us this whole history of care work, tracing your family’s history. It helped me, and I think it will help a lot of people, put what happened in the pandemic into context. People with privilege were caught by surprise by how hard it is to live. Obviously, it was not news to the majority of people, but it helped me put in context, like, what is happening right now? And why is it so bad? Why is it happening in this way? So it absolutely transcends the pandemic because you’re explaining this much larger systemic issue and also looking ahead into where do we go from here with that.There is a snippet from the book I wanted to talk about in detail. Okay, so actually two little quotes I’m gonna read. You wrote: The pandemic revealed that this can happen to anyone. That work won’t save affluent white women, despite Betty Friedan’s theorizing. Ultimately, they cannot ever fully outsource domestic labor, it still comes down to them. And then later you wrote: It makes white women uncomfortable to think that they are no different from their hired help. What they chase and have been given is validation, acceptance, and success—but only on terms set by white men.I mean, Angela! So good! I read those, I underlined them, I came back and read them again. I was just flashing back to so many phone calls with editors. So many reporting trips. I remember being on a reporting trip when I was visibly pregnant with my second daughter, and feeling like I had to hide it and downplay it. This weird guy who worked for the Philadelphia Mayor was making comments about it. It was like a whole thing where I was like, I can’t be pregnant in this public space because it’s getting so weird for everybody.Angela I can’t be who I am. VirginiaThis is what my body’s doing right now and I have to do this work. There are these ways in which we are conditioned to downplay our kids, to downplay our responsibility to our kids, in order to seem professional and successful. For a lot of us, the pandemic is what made it impossible to maintain that lie. Like your editor, I was in the same boat of like, “Okay, I’m just not working for several months here.” I would love for you to unpack for us a little further why this is so specifically a problem of white feminism.Angela I mean, I want to start by saying that I’m really glad that you want to talk about this. As I was writing it, I was like, “This feels risky.” Do I want to call out white women? As a woman of color that felt and still feels a little bit risky. But this really gives me hope, because you know my joke is “some of my best friends are white women.” And I feel like there’s a reckoning that’s happening. I know that word has been overused in the last couple of years. But I think that people really want to understand what’s happening and why they feel so betrayed, and why so many white women felt and were righteously angry, you know? I want to harness that power which is why I want to keep talking about it. Mainstream feminism, which is white feminism, has always had a race problem, just like the United States. We have never fully acknowledged the history, right? Susan B. Anthony, a great suffragette, did not think that black women deserved to vote. Betty Friedan—and I shouldn’t have to say this, but these women contributed to society. I am not trying to take away, I’m not trying to come for them. VirginiaYou’re not canceling Susan B. Anthony. AngelaExactly. I just feel like these people were human. We hear so much about Betty Friedan and the Feminine Mystique. The whole thing was women finding power and fulfillment and identity outside of the home by working professionally. The thing that that leaves out is when you go outside of the home, who’s in the home? That work never went away. There’s a history of slavery in this country. We have a history of Black women working for free in the home and taking care of children and cooking and cleaning, black women as property. And so it was easy to slot women of color and Black women into these roles as domestic workers because they’d always been doing this labor. So, I just want to point out that women—and specifically affluent white women—were sold a bill of goods. I think Boomer women especially. I think a lot of white women now are reckoning with this. A lot of Boomer women were like, “I can have it all.” And that’s the huge lie that we’re still grappling with. Like, you cannot have it all. Even if you come close to it, someone will be like, “can you hide your pregnant body?” It’s very inconvenient that you are overflowing with life, right? Because white women are also oppressed, right? But there’s a better chance for white women to attain success or to fit in. You know, oppression sucks. The thing that marginalized communities and marginalized women and people of color understand is that this world wasn’t built for us. So success is sort of unattainable. At least, I’m speaking for myself now, this classic, shiny version of white feminist success is out of reach. I started self-identifying as a feminist when I was 12 years old. But nothing I read ever talked about my mother, who was an immigrant from the Philippines who worked and raised three kids. Marginalized people have a better understanding of who is left out of conversations. White women haven’t been challenged to imagine themselves in other people’s shoes. They’ve been encouraged to lean in. But to go back to history, when we think of feminism, we don’t think about Johnnie Tillmon or the National Welfare Rights Organization, who were contemporaries of Betty Friedan. Their work was organizing to make sure that women and families who received welfare, which was called aid for families with dependent children at the time, were able to access aid from the government. There was a time when women receiving that aid were subjected to impromptu searches of their home because the government thought that if they were giving them money, then they had the right to come in and make sure they weren’t sleeping with men. Because if men were in the picture, then they shouldn’t have any support. So the NWRO and Johnnie Tillmon were working in a multiracial coalition for poor people. And their analysis, when faced with the same scenario that Betty Friedan had, was that we should have a universal basic income. We should eliminate poverty and we should make life better for as many people as possible. And that’s also history that we don’t hear about. What white women are taught is white feminism, and actually, there is and has always been a much more inclusive feminism. The feminism of women of color, of marginalized people. It’s time for people to understand that and reckon with it and realize that it’s solidarity. I quote Sylvia Federici in the book: “All women are in a condition of servitude when it comes to the male world.”VirginiaThis distinction between Johnnie Tillmon and Betty Friedan is so important because it shows us that the answer was never to try to live on men’s terms. What you’re arguing for is that we need to reject that whole system. We need to do something really different. AngelaCare work is essential to life. It is the work that makes all other work possible. It’s mind boggling when you realize the extent to which we have tried to make care work invisible. The way we have devalued care work. You either do it as a labor of love as a woman or you outsource it to women of color and you pay them poverty wages. Domestic workers are three times as likely to live in poverty than workers in any other field. The median wage in America is close to $20. The median wage for domestic workers is $12. What I’m arguing is that, actually, the only work that matters as a human being is taking care of people. I was struggling with this in the pandemic with the “mask debate.” I’m at a loss. I don’t know how to convince people that they should care about other people if they don’t already have a sense of that. I think it’s a very human and innate and beautiful urge that we have to take care of each other. And I think our culture has beat it out of us. This culture of individual, of hustle and grinding, every man for themselves, I’m looking out for number one. It’s not working. The pandemic showed us that we can’t do it alone. What I’m arguing for is the visibility of care work, the absolute insistence on the importance of care and viewing care as labor that should be respected and valued, culturally and financially.VirginiaIt makes a ton of sense and is tricky to implement because you just keep coming up against the ways in which the systems don’t allow for it. Do you know what I mean? But I think holding that as the starting point and the goal feels critical to making any change.AngelaI do feel hopeful that we’re having a moment. I think it’s going to take longer than I thought. When we got the Biden administration, we were talking about paid leave. We had been experimenting with direct stimulus payments to people. There was, in the American Rescue Plan, the advanced Child Tax Credit which did lift a lot of families and children out of poverty—like four million of them for the brief time. Even though we have a Democratic leadership in Congress that died and the funding lapsed and so we’re backsliding. I definitely have felt really disappointed and disheartened by that. But the fact that we are talking about these things, the fact that we had those things, there are these glimmers of hope. I also just see, too, that maybe the government isn’t coming to save us, right? Like we’ve known that since the start of the pandemic. Certainly the Trump administration wasn’t going to come and save us. The Biden administration feels like a grave disappointment to me in this sense, too. But what I do see and what I always saw through the pandemic is that we take care of each other. We have pods. We have mutual aid societies. We have playdates, we have community fridges, we have little free libraries. I’ve seen a flourishing of that and that, again, is to me the most beautiful human thing of caring for each other. Maybe we don’t name that as such, but I want to spend some time naming that and acknowledging that and saying that that is how people survived. VirginiaI’m glad you brought that up because that was a big takeaway I had from the book. I would read a chapter, and I I would think, I am craving community so deeply. AngelaDidn’t you have COVID at the time?VirginiaOh right! I read it while I had COVID. I was like, why did I feel so alone? It was because I couldn’t leave my house. AngelaI think I was like, “Virginia! You don’t have to do that!” VirginiaNo, it was actually amazing to read it while I had COVID! I highly recommend it to anyone getting COVID now.AngelaWell I’m honored that I got to keep your company during this dark moment in your life.VirginiaIt was fantastic. Well, and because it was this moment where I was having to parent really intensively because the four of us were locked in our house together. So, it was a great book to be reading. I was like, I am really in this care work right now in a very intense way. I want to go back to the community thing in a minute, but this does remind me. One other thing I thought about as I was reading was that I often don’t like care work. I don’t enjoy it. I love my children—you know, standard disclaimer—but I don’t enjoy a lot of the minutia of negotiating with someone about socks or making a potty try happen. I’m not someone who was ever like, “I would love to be an early education teacher.” Maybe this is my white feminism coming up again, or maybe it’s just my being a heartless person who doesn’t like children enough. Or both. But I have fallen into this trap of no, no, my career still needs to matter so much. My motherhood is going to be a smaller part of my identity because I am not taking the pure pleasure in it that I thought it was supposed to. What I like about what you’re arguing for is: If we really value care work and elevate it, I think we can make it more pleasurable, right? Because it can be less isolating and draining. And it creates an opportunity where, if you don’t love it, it’s less awful that you’re outsourcing. You’re valuing who you’re outsourcing it to, right? It creates a more collaborative community approach towards it. AngelaThe thing that I feel when you say that is like, you shouldn’t have to choose. That’s the thing, you should not have to choose. I hate that. So many of us are left feeling bad or like, “Is it me? Am I heartless? And am I a bad feminist?” We internalize that and I just really want to press pause. Let’s back the drone camera up and be like, this is a systemic issue. We hate women. Our country hates women. It really hates women of color, and it doesn’t value care work. That’s not for you or me to solve individually. We can’t. I just want to point that out, too, because I think that’s a very familiar feeling that people have. I am someone who actually did take great pleasure in care work. Not all of it. Straight up, a lot of it is drudgery. So many fluids. Little silver corners torn off of fruit snack things are everywhere. That’s my thing these days. And also just the feeling that no matter what happens in life, it somehow always comes down to me, on my hands and knees, with a sponge. So, you know, care work is not great when that’s all you have to do, right? Which is what the pandemic showed us. Like, as someone who actually enjoys like a certain amount of care work, like loves to cook, is satisfied by sweeping, I felt like I saw the pleasure bleed out from it in the pandemic. It was really hard to enjoy the things that I used to enjoy. So I don’t expect everyone to be suddenly like, “Oh, I love doing care work and domestic labor.” But I’m talking about some of those physical pleasures of care and how satisfying it can be to care for yourself, too. Meaningful self care, taking care of your body, it feels so nice to give yourself a rest. And I just wanted to give people space and I wanted to give myself space to reimagine these things. If I’m going to be doing this care work, I can’t hate it. Life is so hard. If you do nothing else today but keep yourself alive and love on somebody else, you did a lot. That’s a really good day. VirginiaThis allowed me to take more pleasure in the parts I do enjoy. I do find it really rewarding and have sometimes felt embarrassed to admit I enjoy it, too. That’s the other piece.AngelaOh right. Because then you’d be like, “I’m a housewife.”I mean, I don’t like imaginative play with my children. I don’t want to play hide and seek. I don’t like to do the kitty cat game or meow. It’s just not really my thing. And I’m always like, “Oh, my husband’s more fun,” because he’s willing to do that stuff. But I have more patience to sit and read on the couch with them. The other thing is, young children are so different. My children are seven and four now and I feel like I’m emerging from a dark tunnel. VirginiaMy youngest is four, too, and it is a turning point.AngelaYeah. Thank f*****g god. Because it was really hard for a while there.VirginiaSo as I said, while reading your book is trapped in my house, I really missed community. But you know, I’ll be honest, even when I don’t have COVID, I’m an introverted person. We live in a fairly rural area in the Hudson Valley. We are part of a small town but we don’t even live down in the town. We live out in the woods. What advice do you have for us? Being a better part of our communities feels so fundamental to mothering as social change to valuing care work, but how do you start if you’re not naturally good at that?AngelaThat’s a great question because I think a lot of people feel challenged or like, I want to do something but I don’t know what. The first thing I would say is that small is great. I remember when you were in COVID, you had posted that a friend brought you groceries. So I think part of it is just that these little gestures actually do go a long way. If it’s safe to have a playdate, having a kid over to explore the woods by your house is very cool. Maybe it’s reaching out to someone you don’t know very well, maybe even a parent that you suspect you might not like that much, but just inviting them. Community doesn’t have to look any particular way. I think it is stepping outside yourself, feeling part of something bigger than yourself, and contributing to it in a hopefully positive way. If you’re in a position of privilege, one great thing to do is to be a community member who does not reap the benefit of community. Who is in fact the person who is giving, whether that is money, or time. It actually feels really good to care for somebody else and expect nothing in return. We always think community works in a reciprocal way. But maybe the effects are not immediate. This is my existential, philosophical answer. I think you can start small and simple. VirginiaI like focusing on small, it feels doable. Angela It’s the littlest things that are so meaningful and that make you feel like a human being and make you feel like part of something. We are not all made for the grand gesture. You know, like, I am not. I’m so grateful to activists who are in DC, not giving up, talking to people. That’s not my role. Those are not where my energies are best served. I used to think maybe that I was rationalizing and then I was really just lazy and not that good a person. VirginiaI do struggle with that. AngelaI think Everyone has a role to play and sometimes it takes some work to figure out exactly what that is.Meanwhile, you just started a fund through your newsletter to support democratic elections happening in states! I’m not blowing smoke up your ass. Like, that’s huge. And it’s really important and engaging your community.VirginiaI appreciate that. I do think, especially for us introverted types, online community can be much more doable. I also, of course, want to discuss your beautiful chapter “Mothering as Encouraging Appetites. I am quoted in this chapter, so full disclosure, I’m obviously biased to loving it.AngelaYour writing and your work is definitely a guiding force and spirit in the chapter. So thank you for your work.VirginiaThank you. Well, it’s a really powerful piece of writing. You’re talking about owning our appetites, coming to terms with our bodies, and how one of the most powerful things we can do as mothers is help cultivate that in our kids. You wrote about realizing you don’t take after your own mother physically. You wrote:I decided that being a little bit fat was the price I paid for always wanting seconds. I don’t know why I didn’t shrink myself, only allowed myself to expand both in size and in personality.I love this so much. This is my mission for my children, just not wanting them to shrink themselves. And realizing that if this is the body that you have that allows you to be a happy and fully present person, this is the right body.AngelaYeah, that’s a perfect body. VirginiaSo can you tell us a little more about how you arrived at that place? And how it informs how you’re parenting your daughters now around food and body?AngelaI’m not a stereotypical petite Filipino woman. I really struggled with that. I mean, now I look at pictures of myself in high school, and I’m like, I can’t believe I thought I was fat. But the message is so clear. Being thin and being white, that’s how people will recognize you as beautiful. I have struggled with my own self esteem issues with my own body acceptance and body issues. But I feel so grateful that diet culture didn’t interest me. I just really love eating. And I was like, I’m not gonna stop. I mean, part of it is that I really think like, to go back to something we were talking about earlier, I am just all about physical pleasure. And leisure. I love fudgy cheeses. I love really sour vinegar. I love spicy soup. I love chewy bread. I love all of these things and they make me so happy. And I’ve never been good at denying myself pleasure, which isn’t great in terms of impulse control as an adult sometimes. Definitely not in my 20s. But there was something in me, this spirit, that I’m so grateful to little baby Angela for. There was just this spirit that was like, “No. I’m not I’m not going to be crushed.” And so, and I don’t know how I did it. Honestly, like, I’m not sure what I did. So there’s part of me that’s like, I want this to be the same for my girls but I’m not sure how to replicate it.Part of it goes back to white feminism. I was just like, I’m never gonna fit in, so I might as I might as well just be me. And there’s something very freeing in that.VirginiaI wondered if that was a piece of it. I often find women in very small bodies who live very close to the ideal have large struggles, in terms of internal struggle, because it’s like they’re so close and they can’t get there. I mean, fat people are experiencing oppression for their fatness. That’s different. But I’m talking about the internal stuff. And it’s not to say that fat folks don’t also have those struggles, because we do. But I think that when you are like a 98% on a scale that is completely unrealistic, the extreme tactics to get there feel reasonable because you could get there. Whereas I think if you have a body type that is never going to be it, you have to reckon with that earlier in some way. AngelaThere is still a very dominant image of beauty in the United States. But I have this language now where I can say to my kids, like, “Being beautiful, it’s not like the most important thing. Because you decide what’s beautiful. And because it’s not the most important thing to be. The most important thing to be as a nice person, an empathetic person or a kind person.”We have a long way to go, but representationally they see more. They go to school with mixed race kids now. My girls are mixed race. You know, my daughter’s already talking about how I am Brown Filipina, Daddy is American White. My daughters looked at a picture of me from like 10, 12, 14 years ago, and they were like, “Mommy, you got fat.” And I was like, stay in it. Stay in it. You’ve been training for this, Angela. You’ve been training for this. And it was so hard, but I was like, “Yep, I got fat.” They weren’t weird in the moment. Fat to them is an adjective. And that’s all it is. The person who was making it hard was me! And I have tenderness for myself in that moment. But I felt like, oh, no, I’m doing a good job here. One of the things that I hear mothers committing to is like, I am going to continue to struggle with my body, but I want to do my best to not say disparaging things about my body in front of my children. Or to be honest with them about what’s hard about it. What do you do?Virginia I’ve had that same conversation of “Yep, I’m fat. That’s right. Fat bodies are great bodies.” And I definitely have had that same experience of like, “Oh, God, this is the moment that I have been preparing for. And also people ask me for advice on this and so I really better get it right now.”AngelaNo, totally, that’s a lot of pressure.VirginiaI better get a newsletter essay out of this. AngelaWriters are such traitors. When that was happening to me, I was laying on my bed and having that discussion with my girls like about how I’m fat. I’m trying not to cry, and I’m having all of these feelings. And this thing popped Into my mind. I was like, “Well, I’m gonna have to write about this.”VirginiaThanks, kids. Sorry that I do this with our conversations.The other piece of it that you were emphasizing: That being beautiful doesn’t matter that much, and that it needs to matter less—that we both need to broaden our definition of beauty and we need to care less about beauty. It’s hard to hold both of those together, but it’s really the crux of it. You had this line in the book which I really think you need to put on t-shirts: “Eating is a necessity. Being beautiful is not.” Thank you. That’s it.AngelaThat’s what it comes down to.VirginiaYou are allowed to reject this whole system that’s telling you your body isn’t good enough. You’re allowed to just say f**k it, and center your own pleasure and your own hunger. AngelaAnd you’re allowed to talk about how that is really hard sometimes. I’m contributing to the conversation and cultural change. But we can’t solve problems that we don’t talk about. And there’s so much shame and stigma around talking about bodies and how we feel about our own bodies. But yeah, like, 100% I just want to enjoy my life and my body. I could spend my whole life trying to make my body do a thing or I could just live my life in the body that I have. I take option two.VirginiaOption two sounds much easier and less stressful. And more fun, for sure. Butter For Your Burnt ToastAngelaI recommend falling in love with your friends. I just went away on a weekend. It was supposed to be a writing retreat with my friend, the novelist Lydia Kiesling. We became friends because we published our books around the same time, our first books, and our books were both about mothering, so naturally, we were lumped together. But we’ve never lived in the same city and I’ve met her just a couple of times, but I’ve always had this feeling like I think we would be friends. And then I was like, how would we ever figure out how to do that? And then, one of the things in the pandemic is, I’ve just been like, I don’t want to waste time. I want to see my friends, I want to spend time with them. I want to make the most of it. And I want to invest in this friendship. And so I invited her to go away on a weekend with me and we were gonna write. We had these adjacent little studio cabins, I would bring her coffee and a bagel with a fried egg. And then I would get into her bed and we watched “Love Is Blind” together. Like, speaking of physical pleasure, these are the things that we have been denied. And you know, I’m not saying, everyone go jump in bed with all of your friends. But thank God for vaccines, right? Like, that’s an option that is open to us again. I want to remind everyone that we can reawaken to things that are pleasurable and spending time being in the company of friends. What is better than friendship? There’s nothing better. Sex is great, but have you had a friend?VirginiaI did a weekend with my three best friends from when we were in our 20s. And now we live in all different places. We haven’t seen each other, obviously, in a whole pandemic. We did a weekend together last month. I came home feeling high. Like I was just like, I had long conversations with these women that I love so much. Oh, it was amazing.Angela It was like three days of one running conversation. VirginiaIt is such a good feeling. Well, that is a wonderful recommendation. Mine is also very pleasure related, because I felt like that was gonna be a theme in our conversation. I am recommending romance novels, specifically Talia Hibbert and Jasmine Guillory. I have just discovered both of them. Two Black novelists who write about Black characters. The women are usually in larger bodies, and they are really hot and there’s a lot of good sex in these books. They’re romances, so happy endings are guaranteed, but they’re fun and sexy and I haven’t read romance in years and years. My image of Harlequin romance was very like, skinny white lady and you know, big ripped brooding guy and there’s been a total evolution in the genre. There’s all these great feminist writers writing very sex positive, women-centered—like the woman always get taken care of first. Like, chapters ahead, often. She gets hers and then they get around to him much later on. It’s pretty great.Angela I love it! I feel like that’s all the stuff that were taught we don’t deserve. And to see it really front and center? It’s beautiful.Virginia They’re just delightful. And very heteronormative so disclaimer on that. If listeners know of good, queer romance novelists, drop them in comments, because I’m here for that too! I just want people to be having sex and loving their bodies. Well, Angela, thank you again, this was an amazing conversation. Tell people where they can find you and follow your work.AngelaThank you so much, Virginia. It was a little bit like falling in love. You can find me on my website and on Instagram.VirginiaAnd you all need to go and get Essential Labor. It is everywhere you get your books and required reading for Burnt Toast listeners. If you’d like to support the show, please subscribe for free in your podcast player or tell a friend about this episode.The Burnt Toast Podcast is produced and hosted by me, Virginia Sole-Smith. 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This week, Liz is so happy to be speaking (again!) with award-winning journalist and The Double Shift founder Katherine Goldstein, about her recent HuffPost article, There's a Coach for That. It lead Katherine to research the difference alllll the many kinds of coaches out there, and today she's explaining what different coaches do, who they can help, and whether what we really need is a good friend, or even a therapist. If you've been asking yourself, "What's next for me?" this is such a helpful conversation. // Thanks so much for listening, we appreciate you! Please take a moment to subscribe if you like our show. // Want to say hi? Find us on FB, Twitter, IG, Pinterest // Shownotes: CoolMomPicks.com. // Stay safe out there, friends and let's take care of each other.
Today, Bridget chats with Katherine Goldstein- Journalist, and Creator and Host of The Double Shift Podcast.Once Katherine became a mom, she became acutely aware of how society was failing mothers. She, like so many of us, fell victim to blaming ourselves rather than acknowledging that the challenges that mothers face are societal issues. But then Katherine channeled her journalist skills to “stop feeling guilty and start feeling mad”. Katherine is a passionate advocate for mothers. She uses her platform as a podcast host of the award winning Double Shift and as a writer to inspire other moms to advocate and take action. Links from Today's EpisodeNeighborSchools Blog - If you don't have time to listen to the whole episode, go check out the highlights on NeighborSchools' blogChamber of Mothers- The advocacy group that Katherine recommends. The Chamber of Mothers is a collective movement to focus America's priorities on mothers' rights. Their first goal is to secure federal paid family and medical leave.The Double Shift- Katherine's award winning podcastThe Double Shift Newsletter- The Double Shift is going on indefinite hiatus but stay up to date on their amazing work through this newsletterAmerican moms: let's stop feeling guilty and start getting mad- Katherine's article in the GuardianRapid Fire Responses:Mom Gear- Medella Freestyle Hands-free PumpWho to follow on IG- @babiesafter35Mom Hack- TickTick- Katherine's list app that she, her husband and her caregiver all use
Women with children have been working as long as there have been women, babies and work — but the phrase “working mother” is a modern description. This week we launch Season Four with a deep dive into its complicated history. Support Us Get The Breadwinners t-shirts, stickers and more! Episode Links Employment Characteristics of Families — 2020 Nation's Working Mothers Increase 800% Over Last 150 Years It's Time to Retire the Phrase “Working Mom” — by Katherine Goldstein and Jo Piazza A Blast From the Past: 10 Cringeworthy Ads From Past Issues of Working Mother The Working Mother as Role Model — by Anita Shreve The Triumph of the Working Mother — by Stephanie Coontz Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
In this holiday rerun, Farai Chideya brings back some of the best interviews of the year. First, Representative Lauren Underwood of Illinois on her personal and professional connection to the maternal health crisis, and what she thinks politicians can and should do about it. Author Carmen Maria Machado shares how her gay memoir found itself at the center of a controversy in a Texas school district over what to teach students. Educator Lydia X.Z. Brown explains their perspective working within and without institutions as an activist in the disability justice movement. On Sippin' the Political Tea, Farai discusses how moms are faring with their mental health during the Covid-19 pandemic, with the co-hosts of The Double Shift podcast, Angela Garbes and Katherine Goldstein.EPISODE RUNDOWN0:50 Representative Lauren Underwood on maternal health in the U.S.12:33 Author Carmen Maria Machado on the power of a moral panic18:38 Educator Lydia X.Z. Brown on embracing different ways of learning31:18 Sippin' the Political Tea: the co-hosts of The Double Shift come on to talk to Farai about the mental health of moms during the Covid-19 pandemic
Changing workplaces to make them substantially better for moms and caregivers is, in fact, possible. Inspired by our show on paid family leave back in 2019, we hear from some Double Shift listeners who fiercely advocated for -- and got -- better paid family leave at their companies. We are closer than ever before to getting federally funded paid leave for everyone. This is so important, but it's just one part of an ongoing movement. Today's episode offers encouragement, some playbook tactics, some real world examples, and something we all need right now -- hope. Subscribe to our newsletter: www.thedoubleshift.com/newsletter, and become a member to support our show. www.thedoubleshift.com/join. Listen to our episode from 2019, Paid Leave, We Can Do Better. Subscribe to our newsletter: www.thedoubleshift.com/newsletter, and become a member to support our show. www.thedoubleshift.com/join. Listen to our episode from 2019, Paid Leave, We Can Do Better. Information and Resources: “Where are the Mothers?” Read host Katherine Goldstein's original reporting about how the women at the New York Times improved their parental leave. Making the case for parental leave: “5 Ways to Explain the Urgent Need for Paid Family Leave.” “The Economic Benefits of Paid Parental Leave.” “Wal-Mart and Now Starbucks: Why More Big Companies are Offering Paid Family Leave.” Read The NYTimes Parenting Section's Guide to negotiating for parental leave: “How to Ask for Parental Leave When You're an Hourly Worker” “How Freelancing Parents Can Create Maternity or Paternity Leave.” “How to Ask for Maternity or Paternity Leave When Your Company Has No Policy.” Additional organizations that support family leave advocacy: Paid Leave US is a national advocacy organization aimed at getting national paid family leave by 2022. Check out their FAQ, templates for getting better workplace policies and a cost benefit analysis resource. A Better Balance has tons of resources on knowing your rights around family leave, pregnancy and more. National Domestic Workers Alliance has an online platform for paid leave for domestic workers. Get in touch with Erin Grau on LinkedIn, or email her at e@charterworks.com. Check out The Chamber of Mothers, and get involved. ---------- Thanks Kiwico.com: Get 50% off your first month of super cool, hands-on science, art and geography projects delivered to your door every month, plus FREE shipping on ANY crate line with code DOUBLESHIFT Listen to White Picket Fence Season 2, wherever you get your podcasts.
Changing workplaces to make them substantially better for moms and caregivers is, in fact, possible. Inspired by our show on paid family leave back in 2019, we hear from some Double Shift listeners who fiercely advocated for -- and got -- better paid family leave at their companies. We are closer than ever before to getting federally funded paid leave for everyone. This is so important, but it's just one part of an ongoing movement. Today's episode offers encouragement, some playbook tactics, some real world examples, and something we all need right now -- hope. Subscribe to our newsletter: http://www.thedoubleshift.com/newsletter (www.thedoubleshift.com/newsletter), and become a member to support our show. http://www.thedoubleshift.com/join (www.thedoubleshift.com/join). Listen to our episode from 2019, https://megaphone.link/DSPRD2455271552 (Paid Leave, We Can Do Better). Subscribe to our newsletter: http://www.thedoubleshift.com/newsletter (www.thedoubleshift.com/newsletter), and become a member to support our show. http://www.thedoubleshift.com/join (www.thedoubleshift.com/join). Listen to our episode from 2019, https://megaphone.link/DSPRD2455271552 (Paid Leave, We Can Do Better). Information and Resources: “https://niemanreports.org/articles/where-are-the-mothers/ (Where are the Mothers?)” Read host Katherine Goldstein's original reporting about how the women at the New York Times improved their parental leave. Making the case for parental leave: “https://www.maisonette.com/le_scoop/paid-family-leave (5 Ways to Explain the Urgent Need for Paid Family Leave.)” “https://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/01/upshot/the-economic-benefits-of-paid-parental-leave.html?_r=0 (The Economic Benefits of Paid Parental Leave.)” “https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/24/upshot/parental-leave-company-policy-salaried-hourly-gap.html (Wal-Mart and Now Starbucks: Why More Big Companies are Offering Paid Family Leave.)” Read The NYTimes Parenting Section's Guide to negotiating for parental leave: “https://parenting.nytimes.com/work-money/parental-leave-hourly-worker?te=1&nl=nyt-parenting&emc=edit_ptg_20190522 (How to Ask for Parental Leave When You're an Hourly Worker)” “https://parenting.nytimes.com/work-money/maternity-paternity-leave-parents-freelancers?te=1&nl=nyt-parenting&emc=edit_ptg_20190522 (How Freelancing Parents Can Create Maternity or Paternity Leave.)” “https://parenting.nytimes.com/work-money/maternity-paternity-leave-parents-freelancers?te=1&nl=nyt-parenting&emc=edit_ptg_20190522 (How to Ask for Maternity or Paternity Leave When Your Company Has No Policy.)” Additional organizations that support family leave advocacy: https://paidleave.us/ (Paid Leave US) is a national advocacy organization aimed at getting national paid family leave by 2022. https://paidleave.us/resources#workplace-policy (Check out) their FAQ, templates for getting better workplace policies and a cost benefit analysis resource. https://www.abetterbalance.org/ (A Better Balance) has tons of resources on knowing your rights around https://www.abetterbalance.org/resources/paid-family-leave/ (family leave), pregnancy and more. https://www.domesticworkers.org/ (National Domestic Workers Alliance) has an https://www.myalia.org/ (online platform for paid leave) for domestic workers. Get in touch with Erin Grau on https://www.linkedin.com/in/eringrau/ (LinkedIn), or email her at e@charterworks.com. Check out https://www.chamberofmothers.com/ (The Chamber of Mothers), and get involved. ----------
While other news outlets have “moved on'' from talking about how mad and burnt out moms are, we're just getting started. In part two of this intimate, in-the-moment audio diary series, host Katherine Goldstein shares her story of caring for newborn twins and a four-year-old as the coronavirus shut the world down around her. She's joined by co-host Angela Garbes to discuss the idea that mothers are the unacknowledged essential workers of the pandemic, what's changed in the year+ since the audio diaries were recorded, and what hasn't. Katherine and Angela also reflect how they both see collectively harnessing anger over what has happened in the last 19 months as crucial for finding a path forward. Newsweek: https://www.newsweek.com/2021/06/11/exclusive-pandemic-could-cost-typical-american-woman-nearly-600000-lifetime-income-1594655.html (Pandemic Could Cost Typical American Woman Nearly $600,000 in Lifetime Income) Check out https://www.instagram.com/thenapministry/ (The Nap Ministry) on Instagram. If you love the Double Shift Podcast, sign up for our newsletter,https://www.thedoubleshift.com/newsletter ( thedoubleshift.com/newsletter). Consider joining The Double Shift member community, which is a social change laboratory for moms. Learn more here at https://www.thedoubleshift.com/join (thedoubleshift.com/join).
While other news outlets have “moved on'' from talking about how mad and burnt out moms are, we're just getting started. In part two of this intimate, in-the-moment audio diary series, host Katherine Goldstein shares her story of caring for newborn twins and a four-year-old as the coronavirus shut the world down around her. She's joined by co-host Angela Garbes to discuss the idea that mothers are the unacknowledged essential workers of the pandemic, what's changed in the year+ since the audio diaries were recorded, and what hasn't. Katherine and Angela also reflect how they both see collectively harnessing anger over what has happened in the last 19 months as crucial for finding a path forward. Newsweek: Pandemic Could Cost Typical American Woman Nearly $600,000 in Lifetime Income Check out The Nap Ministry on Instagram. To support our work, become a member of The Double Shift. It starts at $5/mo. You get an ad-free feed, members-only hangouts and other great perks. Thanks to our Sponsors Home. Made: Listen to podcast about… home. And what happens when you open that door and step into a new world, whether that's a house, apartment or neighborhood. Kiwico.com: Get 50% off your first month of super cool, hands-on science, art and geography projects delivered to your door every month, plus FREE shipping on ANY crate line with code DOUBLESHIFT
Every mother has been touched by the pandemic and every mother has a story that deserves to be heard...including our own host, Katherine Goldstein. In this two-part series, Katherine shares her story of caring for newborn twins and a four-year-old as the coronavirus shut the world down around her. Through intimate, in-the-moment audio diaries, she strips away the tropes around self-sacrificing pandemic motherhood and lays bare the frustration, fear, uncertainty, and anger (so much anger) over how mothers, children, and caregivers have been abandoned in this crucial moment -- and have actually always been left to fend for themselves. A year and half later, we all know where this story is headed....but we don't yet know how it ends. To support our work, become a member of The Double Shift. It starts at $5/mo. Thanks to our Sponsors Home. Made: Listen to podcast about… home. And what happens when you open that door and step into a new world, whether that's a house, apartment or neighborhood. https://link.chtbl.com/homemade?sid=podcast.thedoubleshift Mercato.com: Order online and have your locally owned grocery stores delivered to your door, and save $20 off your first order with code DOUBLESHIFT. Kiwico.com: Get 50% off your first month of super cool, hands-on science, art and geography projects delivered to your door every month, plus FREE shipping on ANY crate line with code DOUBLESHIFT ----- Listen to Battle Tactics for your Sexist Workplace wherever you get your podcasts. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/battle-tactics-for-your-sexist-workplace/id1391206534
Every mother has been touched by the pandemic and every mother has a story that deserves to be heard...including our own host, Katherine Goldstein. In this two-part series, Katherine shares her story of caring for newborn twins and a four-year-old as the coronavirus shut the world down around her. Through intimate, in-the-moment audio diaries, she strips away the tropes around self-sacrificing pandemic motherhood and lays bare the frustration, fear, uncertainty, and anger (so much anger) over how mothers, children, and caregivers have been abandoned in this crucial moment -- and have actually always been left to fend for themselves. A year and half later, we all know where this story is headed....but we don't yet know how it ends. ---- If you love the Double Shift Podcast, sign up for our newsletter,https://www.thedoubleshift.com/newsletter ( thedoubleshift.com/newsletter). Consider joining The Double Shift member community, which is a social change laboratory for moms. Learn more here at https://www.thedoubleshift.com/join (thedoubleshift.com/join). ----- Listen to https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/battle-tactics-for-your-sexist-workplace/id1391206534 (Battle Tactics for your Sexist Workplace) wherever you get your podcasts. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/battle-tactics-for-your-sexist-workplace/id1391206534
In Part 1 of this series, hosts Katherine Goldstein and Angela Garbes shared their own mental health challenges over the past year. They definitely aren’t the only ones who have struggled -- and in this episode we hear directly from some listeners who’ve sent us voice memos about how they are also not OK. We share some of the most pressing issues we are hearing about with Dr. Amber Thornton, a clinical psychologist and a motherhood wellness consultant. We discuss moms’ needs coming last, challenges in accessing care, additional obstacles for women of color in getting mental health support, some realities around self medicating, and more. You can find out more about Dr Amber at Balanced Working Mama, and her podcast The Balanced Working Mama Podcast. https://www.balancedworkingmama.com/ & https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-balanced-working-mama-podcast/id1520168735 To become a member of The Double Shift go to thedoubleshift.com/join. It starts at $5/mo. If you are already a member and would like to up your contribution, sign in with your email address at: doubleshift.supportingcast.fm/account and hit the "change" button next to your email address, and select a different plan option. Resources: If you are needing mental health support, please check out the following organizations: Postpartum Progress https://postpartumprogress.com/ Postpartum Support International Hotline: 1-800-944-4773 (1-Spanish, 2- English) Edinburgh Postnatal Depression Scale (In English and Spanish) https://med.stanford.edu/content/dam/sm/ppc/documents/DBP/EDPS_text_added.pdf Motherhood Understood, https://www.motherhood-understood.com/resources which includes Mother’s Manual for Postpartum Mental Health, Cheat sheet to Medications, Cheat sheet to Partners, and other resources. SAMHSA’s (Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration) National Helpline is 1-800-662-HELP (4357). They also have a treatment locator. https://findtreatment.samhsa.gov/ National Suicide Prevention Hotline: 800-273-8255 Thanks to Our Sponsors: Listen to Home. Made. a podcast that explores the meaning of home and what it can teach us about ourselves and each other, wherever you get your pods. https://link.chtbl.com/homemade?sid=podcast.thedoubleshift 1 in 5: check out this new documentary podcast from Ascend at the Aspen Institute about student parents. https://1in5.simplecast.com/
In Part 1 of this series, hosts Katherine Goldstein and Angela Garbes shared their own mental health challenges over the past year. They definitely aren't the only ones who have struggled -- and in this episode we hear directly from some listeners who've sent us voice memos about how they are also not OK. We share some of the most pressing issues we are hearing about with Dr. Amber Thornton, a clinical psychologist and a motherhood wellness consultant. We discuss moms' needs coming last, challenges in accessing care, additional obstacles for women of color in getting mental health support, some realities around self medicating, and more. You can find out more about Dr Amber at https://www.balancedworkingmama.com/ (Balanced Working Mama), and her podcast https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-balanced-working-mama-podcast/id1520168735 (The Balanced Working Mama Podcast). https://www.balancedworkingmama.com/ & https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-balanced-working-mama-podcast/id1520168735 If you love the Double Shift Podcast, sign up for our newsletter,https://www.thedoubleshift.com/newsletter ( thedoubleshift.com/newsletter). Resources: If you are needing mental health support, please check out the following organizations: https://postpartumprogress.com/%20- (Postpartum Progress )https://postpartumprogress.com/ https://www.postpartum.net/get-help/ (Postpartum Support International Hotline): 1-800-944-4773 (1-Spanish, 2- English) https://med.stanford.edu/content/dam/sm/ppc/documents/DBP/EDPS_text_added.pdf (Edinburgh Postnatal Depression Scale (In English and Spanish)) https://med.stanford.edu/content/dam/sm/ppc/documents/DBP/EDPS_text_added.pdf https://www.motherhood-understood.com/resources (Motherhood Understood), https://www.motherhood-understood.com/resources which includes Mother's Manual for Postpartum Mental Health, Cheat sheet to Medications, Cheat sheet to Partners, and other resources. SAMHSA's (Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration) National Helpline is 1-800-662-HELP (4357). They also have https://findtreatment.samhsa.gov/ (a treatment locator.) https://findtreatment.samhsa.gov/ https://suicidepreventionlifeline.org/ (National Suicide Prevention Hotline): 800-273-8255 Membership: Consider joining The Double Shift member community, which is a social change laboratory for moms. Learn more here at https://www.thedoubleshift.com/join (thedoubleshift.com/join).
It’s time to get real about the impacts of the pandemic on motherhood. It’s not just homeschooling that’s taken a toll on us all, it’s as if motherhood has gone under a microscope and there’s no returning to normal. My guest Katherine Goldstein, host of the Double Shift Podcast, and I explore: Why it’s time to choose anger over guilt Who has to step up to intensive parenting Making motherhood political Why this isn’t our problem Whether women are leaving the workforce or are we forced out? Read my book, NOISE: A Manifesto Modernising Modernhood About my guest, Katherine Goldstein: Katherine Goldstein is the creator and host of The Double Shift Podcast a reported show the challenges the status quo of motherhood in America. An award-winning journalist, speaker, and media entrepreneur, Katherine is extensively quoted as an expert in issues facing working mothers in the NYTimes, Washington Post, The Atlantic, and on WNYC and NPR. A Harvard Nieman Fellow, ‘17, She runs Double Shift Productions as an independent journalism company out of Durham, N.C., where she lives with her husband, five-year-old, and twin babies. School for Mothers Website - School for Mothers Instagram
The twin economic and health crises have rollbacked gender equality in Canada and around the world. Women, particularly those with children, as well as those who are racialized, and/or low-income have come to bear the brunt of the global pandemic and recession. Today we have incredibly knowledgeable and distinguished experts to help us understand these issues. Ariane Hegewisch is the Program Director of Employment and Earnings at the Institute for Women’s Policy Research and a Scholar in Residence at American University. Dr. Marina Adshade is Assistant Professor of Teaching at the Vancouver School of Economics.Dr. Sarah Kaplan is Director, Institute for Gender and the Economy, Distinguished Professor of Gender & the Economy and Professor of Strategic Management at Rotman.Katherine Goldstein is an award-winning journalist and media entrepreneur. Katherine is the creator and host of the podcast The Double Shift. Produced by Mycala Gill, Chayce Perkins, and Erin Christensen
Today on the Dads with Daughters Podcast we spoke with Katherine Goldstein, the creator and host of The Double Shift Podcast. The Double Shift is a groundbreaking, reported podcast about a new generation of working mothers. I was introduced to Katherine after a tweet that she wrote talking about a study released about the number of women (over 800,000) leaving the workforce over the past few months. Today we talk about this, gender equity at home and in society and more. You can also follow along with Katherine on Twitter or on her website. I also mentioned Fathering Together's great new Dads for Gender Equity group, find out more today! If you've enjoyed today's episode of the Dads With Daughters podcast we invite you to check out the Fatherhood Insider. The Fatherhood Insider is the essential resource for any dad that wants to be the best dad that he can be. We know that no child comes with an instruction manual and most are figuring it out as they go along. The Fatherhood Insider is full of valuable resources and information that will up your game on fatherhood. Through our extensive course library, interactive forum, step-by-step roadmaps and more you will engage and learn with experts but more importantly with dads like you. So check it out today!
An award-winning journalist and media entrepreneur, Katherine Goldstein has been extensively quoted as an expert in issues facing working mothers in the NYTimes, Washington Post, The Atlantic, and on WNYC and NPR. She has a track record for conversation-setting work, such as the viral New York Times op-ed, “The Open Secret of Anti-Mom Bias in the Workplace,” “American Moms: Let’s Stop Feeling Guilty and Start Getting Mad” and “The Mothers of America Need a Bailout. This Could be the Answer.” Katherine joins Blessing Adesiyan, Founder and CEO of Mother Honestly and Villo, to discuss how moms (and themselves) are feeling currently and where things need to change for working mothers. Katherine also shares her "CareCorps" strategy directed as a large public policy solution to provide the nation with better child care strategies and learning opportunities which have arisen from the pandemic. Follow Katherine @katherinegoldstein and be sure to check out The Double Shift Podcast The Mother Honestly Podcast is brought to you in partnership with Pacira and Lincoln Fleet.
On the latest Facing the Future, I was joined by Concord Coalition Executive Director, Bob Bixby, Policy Director, Tori Gorman, economist Diane Lim and journalist and podcast host Katherine Goldstein. We discussed multiple-job holders in the labor force and their impact on the economy, with a focus on women and mothers in the workforce and how they are being affected by the pandemic.
Chase is joined on the show by Concord Coalition Executive Director Bob Bixby, Policy Director Tori Gorman, economist Diane Lim and journalist and podcast host Katherine Goldstein. They discuss multiple-job holders in the labor force and their impact on the economy, with a focus on women and mothers in the workforce and how they are being affected by the pandemic.
This entire year has been one huge change after another, forcing us all to take a deeper look at how we used to live and wonder what the future holds. Our stories this week explore how society is rapidly changing before our eyes.Dylan Heuer looks at how Covid-19 is affecting the way mothers balance work and life. An excerpt from HRN’s Queer the Table featuring Soleil Ho shows how assumptions about the audience for food writing and restaurant reviews are being upended. Alicia Qian ponders pumpkin spice and the implications that come with such “basic” trends. Armen Spendjian brings us a report on how UT Austin’s campus dining program has changed for the Fall semester. Further Listening/Reading:Listen to episode 15 of The Big Food Question: How can Growing Your Own Food Address Issues of Food Sovereignty and Access?Read more from Katherine Goldstein about bailing out American mothers here and anti-mom bias in the workplace here, plus listen to The Double Shift wherever you get your podcasts. Listen to episode 15 of Queer The Table - A New Kind of Restaurant Critic: Soleil HoPreorder Jaya Saxena’s new book, Crystal Clear: Reflections on Extraordinary Talismans for Everyday Life here.Listen to episode 87 of Meat and Three - School Lunch in the Age of Social DistancingKeep Meat and Three on the air: become an HRN Member today! Go to heritageradionetwork.org/donate. Meat and Threeis powered by Simplecast.
We continue tracking the ways the pandemic is impacting women’s lives and careers, and discuss how to not only manage the challenges but also shape a more equitable future. Guests: Kathleen McGinn and Katherine Goldstein.
As the number of child care slots shrink and the prospect of remote education grows, working parents are in crisis. In this episode, Katherine Goldstein, host of The Double Shift podcast about the lives of working mothers (and soon-to-be homeschool teacher to a kindergartener), makes the case for a national “CareCorps,” putting young adults to work supporting working families. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Spawned Parenting Podcast with Kristen and Liz of CoolMomPicks
We're so honored to welcome back The Double Shift podcaster, journalist and working mom expert Katherine Goldstein for an incredible conversation about one of the many troubling aspects of the Covid pandemic: its profound impact on working moms. We discuss the real challenges, who it's hurting most, how to rally for the help we all need, and what the long term impact of Covid could be on an entire generation of working mothers...if we don't start prioritizing childcare in America. Plus, she's got a great alternative to the "mommy war" shaming over parents' (decidedly limited) choices right now. // Thanks so much for listening and subscribing. You can discuss this episode with us in the Spawned FB community // Shownotes: CoolMomPicks.com // Many thanks to our fantastic sponsor, Breyers CarbSmart for helping us get through this hot summer at home
The Double Shift is still on hiatus, but while we dream big about Season 3, check out this new show from Planet Money creator, Adam Davidson, who sits down with people who’ve channeled their unique passions and interests into successful businesses. If you are missing the Double Shift, consider becoming a member! It starts at $5/mo. Right now, host Katherine Goldstein and Senior Producer Rachel McCarthy are having a series of unfiltered conversations about their lives with kids in the Covid era. To get access to this, as well as other exclusive content, go to thedoubleshift.com/join.
The guest for this episode is award-winning journalist and media entrepreneur, Katherine Goldstein. In 2017, she created and also hosts The Double Shift podcast, a show that uses storytelling to fundamentally transform how society sees mothers and how we see ourselves in order to achieve greater parity for women in all aspects of society. She’s also the creator of The F*ck Mom Guilt World Tour, which promotes and discusses themes from the show, with successful, sold out events in NYC, Durham, NC, and the Bay Area. Now in Season 2 of The Double Shift, the theme is “The Revolution Begins at Home” and includes six episodes tackling the personal side of working mothers, their home life. During our conversation, we talk about the conception of The Double Shift and some of the interesting subjects of Season 1, and her vision going into Season 2. She’s currently pregnant with TWINS so lets all congratulate her and she gets into what that means for her and the show in Season 2 of The Double Shift. A lot of good information about motherhood in this episode and you don’t even need to be a parent to get learn something from this interview. Download The Double Shift on your favorite app: fanlink.to/tds Follow Katherine Goldstein: Web: katherinegoldstein.com Twitter: twitter.com/KGeee Instagram: instagram.com/katherinegoldstein Follow The Double Shift: Web: thedoubleshift.com Linktree: linktr.ee/thedoubleshift Instagram: instagram.com/thedoubleshift Facebook: facebook.com/thedoubleshift SUBSCRIBE/RATE/REVIEW FRESH IS THE WORD: Please subscribe and rate/review on whatever platform you prefer to listen to podcasts. Here’s a listing of where Fresh is the Word streams: linktr.ee/freshisthewordpodcast or just search “Fresh is the Word”. THEME MUSIC Courtesy of Knox Money, Bang Belushi, and Foul Mouth. Support via Patreon For as little as $1 per month.The $3 per month tier gets you access to the Patreon-only episodes with my archived interview audio from past interviews outside of the podcasts: patreon.com/freshistheword Support via Paypal If you don’t want to do Patreon, you can donate via Paypal: PayPal.Me/kfreshistheword --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/freshistheword/message
This episode is brought to you by Everlane. Check out your personalized collection today at everlane.com/momanddad. On this week’s episode: Dan, Jamilah, and guest host Katherine Goldstein answer listener questions from a parent looking for ways to enjoy family visits and a neighbor who is worried for the kids next door who were left behind. For Slate Plus, what should you NOT say to someone expecting twins. Sign up for Slate Plus here. Recommendations: Jamilah recommends matching outfits with your kid. Katherine recommends Shrinky Dinks as a creative way to pass a few hours. Dan recommends That Was Awkward: The Art and Etiquette of the Awkward Hug from Emily Flake. Join us on Facebook and email us at momanddad@slate.com to tell us what you thought of today’s show and give us ideas for what we should talk about in future episodes. Got questions that you’d like us to answer? Call and leave us a message at 424-255-7833. Podcast produced by Rosemary Belson. Hosts Jamilah Lemieux is a writer, cultural critic, and communications strategist based in California. Dan Kois is an editor and writer at Slate. He’s the author of How to Be a Family and the co-author of The World Only Spins Forward. Katherine Goldstein is a journalist as well as the creator and host of The Double Shift, a reported, narrative podcast about a new generation of working mothers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
On this week’s episode: Dan, Jamilah, and guest host Katherine Goldstein answer listener questions from a parent looking for ways to enjoy family visits and a neighbor who is worried for the kids next door who were left behind. For Slate Plus, what should you NOT say to someone expecting twins. Sign up for Slate Plus here. Recommendations: Jamilah recommends matching outfits with your kid. Katherine recommends Shrinky Dinks as a creative way to pass a few hours. Dan recommends That Was Awkward: The Art and Etiquette of the Awkward Hug from Emily Flake. Join us on Facebook and email us at momanddad@slate.com to tell us what you thought of today’s show and give us ideas for what we should talk about in future episodes. Got questions that you’d like us to answer? Call and leave us a message at 424-255-7833. Podcast produced by Rosemary Belson. Hosts Jamilah Lemieux is a writer, cultural critic, and communications strategist based in California. Dan Kois is an editor and writer at Slate. He’s the author of How to Be a Family and the co-author of The World Only Spins Forward. Katherine Goldstein is a journalist as well as the creator and host of The Double Shift, a reported, narrative podcast about a new generation of working mothers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
This episode is brought to you by Everlane. Check out your personalized collection today at everlane.com/momanddad. On this week’s episode: Dan, Jamilah, and guest host Katherine Goldstein answer listener questions from a parent looking for ways to enjoy family visits and a neighbor who is worried for the kids next door who were left behind. For Slate Plus, what should you NOT say to someone expecting twins. Sign up for Slate Plus here. Recommendations: Jamilah recommends matching outfits with your kid. Katherine recommends Shrinky Dinks as a creative way to pass a few hours. Dan recommends That Was Awkward: The Art and Etiquette of the Awkward Hug from Emily Flake. Join us on Facebook and email us at momanddad@slate.com to tell us what you thought of today’s show and give us ideas for what we should talk about in future episodes. Got questions that you’d like us to answer? Call and leave us a message at 424-255-7833. Podcast produced by Rosemary Belson. Hosts Jamilah Lemieux is a writer, cultural critic, and communications strategist based in California. Dan Kois is an editor and writer at Slate. He’s the author of How to Be a Family and the co-author of The World Only Spins Forward. Katherine Goldstein is a journalist as well as the creator and host of The Double Shift, a reported, narrative podcast about a new generation of working mothers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Biz and Theresa wonder if and how our use of the internet in relation to parenting has changed. Looking up “rash” is never a good idea, but is looking up “dangers of social media” any better? However, we also find communities and support on the wild, wild web. In a time when isolation is a real experience for parents, the internet may be the village we need. Plus Biz is all a buzz, Theresa looks back, and we talk to Katherine Goldstein of The Double Shift podcast about working mothers. You can follow Katherine Goldstein on Twitter @KGeee. You can learn more about The Double Shift podcast and subscribe at TheDoubleShift.com. Season One is available now wherever you download podcasts. Check out Theresa's new book! It Feels Good To Be Yourself is available now wherever books are sold. Our book You're Doing A Great Job!: 100 Ways You're Winning at Parenting! is available wherever books are sold. Thank you to all our listeners who support the show as monthly members of MaximumFun.org. Our sponsors this week are Michelin and Mathnasium. Next time when you’re looking for new tires for the family car, consider Michelin Premier® All Season tires. Michelin, performance EVERY time! Go to Mathnasium.com/OBM today to learn more about their programs, or call 855-354-MATH. Share your genius and fail moments! Call 206-350-9485 Be sure to tell us at the top of your message whether you're leaving a genius moment, a fail, or a rant! Thanks!! Share a personal or commercial message on the show! Details at MaximumFun.org/Jumbotron. Subscribe to One Bad Mother in iTunes Join our mailing list Join the amazing community that is our private One Bad Mother Facebook group Follow One Bad Mother on Twitter Follow Biz on Twitter Follow Theresa on Twitter Like us on Facebook! Get a OBM tee, tank, baby shirt, or mug from the MaxFunStore You can suggest a topic or a guest for an upcoming show by sending an email to onebadmother@maximumfun.org. Show Music Opening theme: Summon the Rawk, Kevin MacLeod (http://incompetech.com) Ones and Zeros, Awesome, Beehive Sessions (http://awesomeinquotes.com, also avail on iTunes) Mom Song, Adira Amram, Hot Jams For Teens (http://adiraamram.com, avail on iTunes) Telephone, Awesome, Beehive Sessions (http://awesomeinquotes.com, also avail on iTunes) Closing music: Mama Blues, Cornbread Ted and the Butterbeans
The next generation of working mothers is not going to accept the status quo. Unpaid labor, the mental load, and harsh self-judgment could be a thing of the past. But only if we stop feeling guilty and start getting angry, says Katherine Goldstein, creator and host of The Double Shift podcast. We debated these issues and more with Hana Baba, of The Stoop podcast and KALW in this live audience taping from the Betabrand Podcast Theatre on the Bay Area Stop of the Fuck Mom Guilt World Tour. Plus! Lauren shares her 9/11 story. Support the production of Inflection Point with a monthly or one-time contribution! And when you’re done, come on over to The Inflection Point Society, our Facebook group of everyday activists who seek to make extraordinary change through small, daily actions. Subscribe to “Inflection Point” to get more stories of how women rise up right in your feed.
Join us to talk about an unexpected turn towards transition thanks to health problems and an untimely job loss. Katherine Goldstein, host of the podcast The Double Shift, shares her walk with transition and its early companion, failure. We explore the feelings of being alone in our failure and the surprises we meet along the way. A 12-minute power episode for another way to see ourselves and to learn about the power in reframing our narratives. Don't miss this one! If you like our podcast please take a moment to tell a friend or read more about my work at www.Novofemina.com. I'd love to hear from you! Find me on Twitter @LindaARossetti.
It’s commonly accepted at this point that the idea of leaning in is at best flawed, at worst myopic, harmful, and privileged AF. But when Jeannie and Eula explored the book Lean In further, they noticed something troubling. Leaning In is a tactic, much like the ones they suggest on the show. Double Shift host and journalist Katherine Goldstein loved* Lean In* at first. She even started her own Lean In Circle. Today, she sees its flaws clearly - but she also thinks many of us are too quick to gloss over why it was so important and ultimately helpful. She tells Eula and Jeannie why so many of us kind of needed Lean In, even when it hurt us more than it helped us. Love this podcast? Support KUOW Public Radio and BTSW by donating here: https://kuow.org/donate/btsw?utm_source=shownotes&utm_campaign=btswbonus
Welcome to a summer season episode swap featuring Katherine Goldstein of The Double Shift podcast. Earlier in the season, I shared my conversation with Katie Bethell, the founder of Paid Leave for the US--or PLUS, an advocacy group working to win paid leave for everyone--whether you need to care for yourself or others. While Katie and I were talking, another podcast that I follow, hosted by Katherine Goldstein, called “The Double Shift” about working mothers...also did a story--with a woman who decided that the paid leave policy at her workplace was good....but not good enough. I want you to hear what happened when she took matters into her own hands, and how the management team at the New York Times, where she worked, responded. But wait, there’s more! You’re invited to a live taping with me and Katherine Goldstein of The Double Shift when we appear together live in San Francisco August 15th as part of her “F*ck Mom-Guilt.... World Tour”. She will also be in Oakland, August 14th. Click here for tickets! Support the next season of Inflection Point with a tax deductible contribution, click here! *Thank you to our sponsors! * NATIVE Deodorant: 20% off your first purchase. Go to nativedeodorant.com and use promo code INFLECTION during checkout. Spotlyte: Spotlyte is your destination for curated, expert content helping you discover how beauty, skincare, and medical aesthetic treatments may fit into your routine.
While all mothers are constantly working on raising the next generation, moms who end up re-entering the workforce face difficult challenges. From accepting that being a stay-at-home mom may not be your thing to being discriminated in the workplace for being a mother, your career path gets complicated if and when you decide to have children. We are joined by the creator and host of the Double Shift Podcast, Katherine Goldstein which shares stories of current mothers in the workforce, along with Kathleen McGinn of Harvard Business School, who researches how gender and class impact work, home life, and negotiations.
Spawned Parenting Podcast with Kristen and Liz of CoolMomPicks
This week's guest on the Spawned parenting podcast is Katherine Goldstein, award-winning journalist and host of the brilliant new podcast, The Double Shift. Ever since her viral New York Times article about anti-mom bias at work went viral, she's been investigating, writing about, and advocating for changes to make the workplace more mom-friendly. Because when parents get the support and resources we need -- at work and at home -- everyone wins. Whether you work out of home or not, this is a fantastic episode to help us all lose the mom guilt and help make change instead. Yes! // Show notes on the Cool Mom Picks podcast page, or join the Spawned parenting community on Facebook to discuss. // If you love what we do, please consider leaving us a positive review on Apple Podcasts. It really helps support us. And thanks! -Kristen + Liz
The paid family leave situation in America is so bad, mothers are conditioned to think that we’re “lucky” to get ANY time off at all to care for a new baby or adopted child. Erin Grau was a New York Times employee who wasn’t satisfied with “good enough” parental leave. So, along with a determined group of women, she fought to make it better for everyone at her company. Additional interview with Claire Cain Miller, reporter for the Upshot at the New York Times. In addition to Erin, Rebecca Grossman-Cohen, Alex Hardiman, Christine Hung, and Alex MacCallum worked to improve the New York Times’ parental leave policy. Additional field production on this episode by Molly Nugent. Join: For bonus content on this episode, and access to a members-only community launching this summer, become a member of The Double Shift for $5/mo. Go to thedoubleshift.com/join Resources: “Where are the Mothers?” Read host Katherine Goldstein’s original reporting about how the women at the New York Times improved their parental leave. Making the case for parental leave with reporting from Claire Cain Miller: “The Economic Benefits of Paid Parental Leave.” “In Google’s Inner Circle, a Falling Number of Women.” “Wal-Mart and Now Starbucks: Why More Big Companies are Offering Paid Family Leave.” “With Paid Leave, Gates Foundation Says There Can Be Too Much of a Good Thing.” Read The NYTimes Parenting Section’s Guide to negotiating for parental leave: “How to Ask for Parental Leave When You’re an Hourly Worker” “How Freelancing Parents Can Create Maternity or Paternity Leave.” “How to Ask for Maternity or Paternity Leave When Your Company Has No Policy.” Making Motherhood Work: How Women Manage Careers and Caregiving, By Caitlyn Collins Additional organizations that support parental leave advocacy: Paid Leave US is a national advocacy organization aimed at getting national paid family leave by 2022. Check out their FAQ, templates for getting better workplace policies and a cost benefit analysis resource. A Better Balance has tons of resources on knowing your rights around family leave, pregnancy and more. National Domestic Workers Alliance has an online platform for paid leave for domestic workers. Thanks Takecareof.com: For 25% off your first month of personalized Care/of vitamins, use the code DoubleShift30. StoryWorth makes it easy and fun for your loved ones to share their stories, with weekly emailed story prompts go to Storyworth.com/DoubleShift for $20 off.
#115 — The Myths of Miscarriage, The Lean In Fallacy, and Mothers’ Rage What happens when you get pregnant as you are trying to launch a podcast about bias in the workplace against mothers? Why is the dominant cultural story about miscarriage and fertility trauma that if you end up with a kid, it's all okay? And who should you be looking for in a company when you're considering a new job? Today we get to hear from Katherine Goldstein, award winning journalist and host of the inimitable, brilliant new podcast: The Double Shift. Goldstein created The Double Shift to tell diverse, three dimensional, powerful stories of mothers as complete humans. At every turn she was forced to explain that, no, this is not a podcast about parenting. No, this podcast will not hit the single note of just how hard it is to be a working mother. This podcast will, finally, allow us all to see working mothers as people with their own stories, ambitions, and struggles beyond their children. Before podcasting, Goldstein spent several years researching bias and discrimination against mothers in the workplace. It seemed to her the deepest irony that she became pregnant while in immersed in the hectic world of pitching media companies and just how vulnerable that pregnancy made her professional ambitions feel. Her pregnancy ultimately ended in a miscarriage, and Goldstein goes deep here, talking about all of the ways we as a culture fail to understand and help parents process their grief and trauma around pregnancy loss. Today we also hear from Goldstein about: the blatant bias and discrimination against women in the workplace, why people in power love to push the myth of personal responsibility and “leaning in” to workers rather than deal with just how broken our working culture is, and why she feels uniquely positioned to tell diverse, meaningful stories of motherhood in order to highlight and shift just how marginalized mothers are in America. IN THIS EPISODE WE TALK ABOUT How Katherine navigated the experience of early pregnancy while shopping her podcast pilot to major media networks. Her experience with miscarriage and her desire to change how we speak about miscarriage and fertility struggles as a culture, moving away from the myth that if you end up with a child, everything worked out. She believes this edits out women whose experiences don’t end with a child from the whole conversation and forces women who’ve experienced real and meaningful trauma to act as though nothing happened. Goldstein’s decision to share her audio recordings of her pregnancy and miscarriage with The Double Shift audience as an episode in order to show just one of the three-dimensional, complex experiences that so many mothers have. The $2,500 bill Goldstein got from her insurance company to pay for the D&C procedure she needed to have after her miscarriage and her realization of just how harmful our entire healthcare system is to the working poor. Her biggest takeaways after spending a year reporting as a Nieman Fellow at Harvard on the open secret of anti-mother discrimination in American workplaces. How mothers, but not fathers, are punished for having children in their prime childbearing years and are never able to recover from the massive hit their earnings take as new mothers.
This episode comes to BTSW from the podcast The Doubleshift a podcast about working moms, hosted by Katherine Goldstein. Nydia Sanchez runs one of Las Vegas' only overnight, 24-hour child care centers, serving 108 kids. Many of her clients are single moms who work in casinos, and as waitresses, nurses and dancers. We visit to find out how Nydia keeps her business affordable and serves a group of moms that many bosses, and politicians, and other daycare owners just don’t think about.
This episode features Katherine Goldstein, host of The Double Shift, a podcast about the lives of mothers. Learn about how she got into the podcasting business, and how we all feel like there continue to be gaps (and opportunities) in the podcasting sphere when it comes to working motherhood. She shares with us her experiences as a relatively new parent finding her groove (her child is now 3), and her Friday evening ritual. In Q&A, we address an emotionally charged question about overwork and resentme
Author Amy Westervelt and host Katherine Goldstein discuss how we can recapture the revolutionary spirit of Mother’s Day... and why it’s time for us to put a dollar amount on all the invisible labor moms do to keep society and families running. Plus, we announce an awesome next step for The Double Shift... a membership program for listeners. To become a founding member of The Double Shift, go to thedoubleshift.com/join. It costs $5/mo and you’ll get extended, bonus content & a cool community launching this summer. To read Amy and Katherine’s essay on returning Mother’s Day to its revolutionary roots, click here. And check out our invisible labor calculator and to find out how much you should earn per year keeping your family (and society) running. Sponsors: ThirdLove: For 15% your first order, go to Thirdlove.com/doubleshift Myro: For 50% and to get started for just $5, go to mymyro.com/doubleshift and use promo code Doubleshift
Author Amy Westervelt and host Katherine Goldstein discuss how we can recapture the revolutionary spirit of Mother's Day and why it's time for us to put a dollar amount on all the invisible labor moms do to keep society and families running. https://www.thedoubleshift.com/calculator (The Invisible Labor Calculator,) created by Amy Westervelt, author of https://www.amazon.com/Forget-Having-All-America-Motherhood/dp/1580057861 (“Forget ‘Having It All': How America Messed Up Motherhood--and How to Fix It”) Want to gift a Double Shift Membership to a special mom in your life for Mother's Day? Go to https://doubleshift.supportingcast.fm/gifts (thedoubleshift.com/gifts.) If you love the Double Shift Podcast, sign up for our newsletter,https://www.thedoubleshift.com/newsletter ( thedoubleshift.com/newsletter). Consider joining The Double Shift member community, which is a social change laboratory for moms. Learn more here at https://www.thedoubleshift.com/join (thedoubleshift.com/join).
This is the third episode in our four-part series for National Infertility Awareness Week on #InfertilityUncovered. Why, in 2019, are American workplaces still so bad at dealing with issues around infertility? That is the question that Katherine Goldstein, reporter and host of the podcast The Double Shift, asks in her article for Slate titled, “IVF & The Office.” Katherine has been researching and writing about issues relating to women and the workplace for years now, and when she turned her attention to infertility and the workplace she found herself with more questions than answers. In this episode Katherine uncovers what she’s learned while researching her article, the advice she has for women, and what workplaces can do to address these shortcomings. Today’s host is Cassandra Pratt, VP of People at Progyny. Guests include: Katherine Goldstein, The Double Shift podcast For more information, visit Progyny's Podcast page: http://www.progyny.com/podcast and The Double Shift podcast: https://www.thedoubleshift.com To ask your HR/benefits team for a fertility benefit, visit progyny.com/talktohr to start the conversation. Have a question, comment, or want to share your story? Email us at thisisinfertility@progyny.com
We hear lots of stories about motherhood and parenting. But not very many about moms themselves—except for ones where they feel guilty and exhausted all the time. Journalist Katherine Goldstein wants to change that. She joins us to talk about what it’s really like to be a working mom—and how she’s challenging the world around her, not conforming to it. Katherine is a journalist whose work focuses on women, work, and parenting issues. She’s also the creator and host of a new podcast called The Double Shift—a show that explores the intricate lives of mothers who work. She joins us to share her own experience, and the amazing stories of working moms—from a 24-hour daycare provider in Las Vegas to a candidate who’s running for office with three small kids in tow. The conversation about working mothers is very dominated by mostly middle class, white collar, urban people in big cities… usually through a lens of a lot of privilege. And those concerns that are raised by that group are completely valid and need to be talked about, but those are only a very small slice of the experience. —Katherine Goldstein, journalist and host of The Double Shift We talk about: How Katherine went from print journalism to reporting via podcast, and how she developed The Double Shift Why “leaning in” doesn’t work as advertised for moms, and, well, lots of women Why men are essential in the work of protecting and supporting women and mothers Why angry moms make such great activists Links: Twitter The Double Shift podcast Elizabeth Warren’s universal child care plan, explained How Democrats Plan To Make Child Care More Affordable For Working Families Plus Sara gets showered with glitter at a Robyn show and there’s just still so much glitter everywhere Katel and Sara discuss how their friends and families are navigating child care, from the wildly varying ways it takes shape to how much it costs—and what universal child care could mean for American parents And a big fuck yeah to...poetry! More specifically, lovely poetry books (and more) from Small Press Distributors
In this episode Diana chats with Katherine Goldstein, journalist and host of the podcast "The Double Shift" about the challenges that working mothers face in the United States. Diana and Katherine discuss how becoming a mother affects a woman's earning ability anti-mom bias in the workplace what reentry to the workforce should look like for moms after childbirth Her podcast The Double Shift ... AND MORE! You can check out the Double Shift on Instagram. Don't forget to share the podcast with your friends, please leave a review and follow us on Instagram and Twitter! You can also follow P&P's host Diana on Instagram. Until next time... don't forget to keep the hope alive!
Gabriel Roth, Carvell Wallace, and Rebecca Lavoie are joined by Katherine Goldstein to talk about her brand new podcast The Double Shift, a show about working mothers. They also discuss a follow up email from last week's discussion about telling your kids about their biological parentage, plus as always: triumphs and fails and recommendations. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Gabriel Roth, Carvell Wallace, and Rebecca Lavoie are joined by Katherine Goldstein to talk about her brand new podcast The Double Shift, a show about working mothers. They also discuss a follow up email from last week's discussion about telling your kids about their biological parentage, plus as always: triumphs and fails and recommendations. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Carvell Wallace, Dan Kois, and Katherine Goldstein discuss calendar fails, the mundane unfairness of paying for daycare with a health care savings account, when to teach kids to clean up after themselves, and listener questions about dealing with a chauvinist grandpa and how and when to talk to your kids about a conspicuous confederate flag on the side of the interstate. This episode is brought to you by the following advertisers: CollegeBacker, the easiest way to save for your child's education. Go to collegebacker.com/momanddad and CollegeBacker will match your first contributions up to $10. Coffee and Crayons, a new back-to-school podcast from Target and Slate Studios. Listen wherever you get your podcasts. Mac and Mia, an online clothing subscription service your kid will love. Take $50 off your first order by going to macandmia.com/mom and using the promo code mom. Gobble, a meal prep service that brings meals that are ready to eat in 15 minutes right to your door. For $50 off your first box, go to gobble.com/momanddad. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Carvell Wallace, Dan Kois, and Katherine Goldstein discuss calendar fails, the mundane unfairness of paying for daycare with a health care savings account, when to teach kids to clean up after themselves, and listener questions about dealing with a chauvinist grandpa and how and when to talk to your kids about a conspicuous confederate flag on the side of the interstate. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Gabriel Roth, Rebecca Lavoie, and Carvell Wallace discuss the situation at the border, anti-mom bias in the workplace with Katherine Goldstein, how not to model vices for your kids, and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Gabriel Roth, Rebecca Lavoie, and Carvell Wallace discuss the situation at the border, anti-mom bias in the workplace with Katherine Goldstein, how not to model vices for your kids, and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Gabriel Roth, Rebecca Lavoie, and Katherine Goldstein discuss failed voice lessons, resigning yourself to chicken nuggets, dude time, what to do about sexist cartoons, how to cope with friends with bad parenting technique, plus recommendations and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Gabriel Roth, Rebecca Lavoie, and Katherine Goldstein discuss failed voice lessons, resigning yourself to chicken nuggets, dude time, what to do about sexist cartoons, how to cope with friends with bad parenting technique, plus recommendations and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Rebecca Lavoie, Carvell Wallace and Katherine Goldstein discuss a mostly successful binky-for-trains program, answer questions about a difficult divorce, and reading, plus more "Triumphs and Fails" and recommendations. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Rebecca Lavoie, Carvell Wallace and Katherine Goldstein discuss a mostly successful binky-for-trains program, answer questions about a difficult divorce, and reading, plus more "Triumphs and Fails" and recommendations. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Rebecca Lavoie and Katherine Goldstein explain Elf on the Shelf to Carvell Wallace, dealing with estranged parents and how to introduce them to your kids, whether following the rules too much is bad for kids, and the joy and sorrow of holiday traditions. Plus Triumphs and Fails and recommendations. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Rebecca Lavoie and Katherine Goldstein explain Elf on the Shelf to Carvell Wallace, dealing with estranged parents and how to introduce them to your kids, whether following the rules too much is bad for kids, and the joy and sorrow of holiday traditions. Plus Triumphs and Fails and recommendations. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Katherine Goldstein was on the fast track to a top leadership position in digital journalism, with senior roles at Huffington Post and Conde Nast before she was 30. Then she had a baby. I met Katherine when she was a Nieman Fellow at Harvard. Her groundbreaking work on Mothers in the Newsroom (where are they?) is must reading for the moment we're in, as is her thinking on sexual harassment in the news business. She'll tell us the story. Have a listen.
Gabriel Roth, Carvell Wallace, and Katherine Goldstein discuss the welfare state critique of To Give a Mouse a Cookie, children's negotiating skills, potty training, Shrinky Dinks, and more. Plus an interview with Lauren Brody, author of The Fifth Trimester about the complications of going back to work after having a baby, and a listener question about whether to get back on IVF again. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Gabriel Roth, Carvell Wallace, and Katherine Goldstein discuss the welfare state critique of To Give a Mouse a Cookie, children's negotiating skills, potty training, Shrinky Dinks, and more. Plus an interview with Lauren Brody, author of The Fifth Trimester about the complications of going back to work after having a baby, and a listener question about whether to get back on IVF again. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
This week's episode of Media Voices sees Esther speak to Nieman fellow Katherine Goldstein about what it will take to make journalism in the US friendlier to new mothers and maternity leave, following the publication of her article on the subject: http://niemanreports.org/articles/where-are-the-mothers/ In the news round-up we talk about digital success at the Guardian and NYT, the ongoing pivot to video and the successful crowdfunding project to keep Snopes alive. Peter and Chris throw Esther under the bus rather than admit they were wrong about the Guardian's membership scheme.
Annie Novak, Michael Grady Robertson & Katherine Goldstein stop by Cheap Date to talk about hot young farmers.