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Send us Fan MailOn this episode of the Hockey Cards Gongshow podcast, we start with Get To Know Your Hockey Hall of Famers, taking a look at the life, playing career, and hobby market of Hockey Hall of Famer Dave Keon (14:15).Next, we continue our 2026-27 hockey hobby preview: 5 Tips To Surviving a More Expensive Hobby (57:23).In hobby news, Beckett goes dark for more than a week, and the Blackhawks name Connor Bedard Captain (1:27:43).Jeremy Lee joins the show to talk about the rise in big, iconic card sales with IP autos and whether or not we can or should have trust in the authenticity of these signatures (1:34:34).In new product releases, the 2026-27 Upper Deck Series One Young Guns checklist has been leaked and we take a look at the updated new product release calendar (2:22:31).We then wrap up the show by sharing some of our recent personal pickups (2:32:36).Our Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/HockeyCardsGongshowPartners & SponsorsThe Upper Deck Company - https://www.UpperDeck.comGongshow Breaks - https://www.GongshowBreaks.comGongshow Reloaded - https://www.GongshowReloaded.comHockeyChecklists.com - https://www.hockeychecklists.comSlab Sharks Consignment - https://slabsharksusa.comSlab Sharks is now accepting U.S. submissions!GP Sports Cards - https://gpsportcards.com/Total Sports Cards - https://totalsportcards.comSign up for Market Movers - https://www.marketmoversapp.com/Follow Hockey Cards Gongshow on social mediaInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/hockey_cards_gongshow/TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@hockey_cards_gongshowFacebook - https://www.facebook.com/HockeyCardsGongshowTwitter - https://twitter.com/HCGongshowThe Hockey Cards Gongshow podcast is a production of Dollar Box Ventures LLC
Use $20 for free on your first auction win with the code "ballcard" at registration. prstn.co/4e1Ek1J Follow Us https://linktr.ee/theballcardshow CHAPTERS 00:32 - Intro 01:48 - GCCF Recap 07:14 - Dalen - Droppin Knowledge 09:13 - PC Show and Tell 12:01 - Shop Talk 14:24 - Upcoming Schedule 16:15 - PTN Announcement 16:55 - Jeremy Lee In this episode, Jeremy Lee of @SportsCardsLive joins the podcast to share experience and wisdom around collecting with intention. This hobby is bigger than any one experience and Jeremy explains why! Take Hobby Spectrum Assessment - www.hobbyspectrum.com Dalen - @JunkWaxVintage Keith- @theneuhartcards The Ballcard Show - Jason Otero & Gary LeMaster Business Inquiries: ballcardshow@gmail.com
What is a sports card actually worth? Jeremy Lee, David Chase, Chris HOJ and the very wordy Josh Adams finish the night by digging deeper into one of the hobby's most deceptively complicated questions: how do we determine value when buying and selling cards? The conversation begins with more insight into Card Ladder and the effort to maintain the integrity of sales data. Chris explains why the goal isn't simply to fix individual questionable sales, but to identify the underlying systems that allowed a problem to occur and improve those systems for the future. From there, the discussion turns to something every collector encounters: the difference between a reported comp and the actual economics of a transaction. A marketplace may report the final price paid for a card, but that number doesn't necessarily reflect what the seller received after commissions and fees. It also doesn't capture everything the buyer may have spent on sales tax, shipping, financing or other transaction costs. Jeremy shares how financing part of a major card purchase pushed his actual cost basis well beyond the publicly reported sale price. So which number represents the card's true value? Jeremy revisits a question he and Chris discussed years ago: why should the buyer have all the power in determining value? For highly liquid cards, recent comps may provide an obvious answer. But with truly scarce cards, shouldn't the owner's willingness to part with the card matter just as much as what a buyer is willing to pay? And as David points out, value can also depend on how long a seller is willing to wait for the right buyer to arrive. The panel also returns to vintage non-sports and the possibility that rising prices could eventually send a large supply of previously raw cards into PSA. How dramatically could populations change once cheaper grading tiers become available, and how long will collectors have to wait before the true supply becomes visible? Then, as tends to happen four hours into Sports Cards Live, things get a little less serious. Is chess a sport? What about poker, darts, billiards, professional wrestling, auto racing and competitive eating? Does something have to involve physical exertion to qualify as a sport, and is being an athlete necessarily the same thing as participating in a sport? Plus, Josh Adams names the 1990s card he'd most like to see consigned to 90s Auctions, and the panel puts the finishing touches on a four-hour-and-15-minute edition of Sports Cards Live. Subscribe to Sports Cards Live on YouTube and wherever you listen to podcasts. Take the Hobby Spectrum Assessment and learn more at thehobbyspectrum.com. Discover cards across multiple auction platforms with AuctionWire at auctionwire.ai and use promo code SCL for 60 days free. Check out Card Ladder for sports card sales history, market data and research. And pick up Jeremy Lee's book, Pops and Comps: Truths, Insights, and Psychology Behind the Numbers That Drive the Sports Card Market, available on Amazon. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
How much should you actually trust the comps you're using to buy and sell sports cards? Jeremy Lee, David Chase, Joe Poirot, Chris HOJ and Josh Adams dive deep into one of the most important issues in today's data-driven hobby: understanding what the numbers actually mean before allowing them to influence your decisions. The conversation begins with a viewer claiming there are too many fake sales appearing on Card Ladder. Chris explains how Card Ladder handles potentially unpaid, staged or otherwise questionable transactions, why sales initially appear as they happen, how marketplaces subsequently provide information about unpaid items, and what collectors should actually take from the green verification check marks appearing beside certain sales. But even a verified sale doesn't answer every question. Was it truly an arm's-length transaction? Was the card an unusually strong or weak example for the grade? Was there something about the seller, provenance or bidding that made the result unusual? That leads into a detailed discussion about Card Ladder Value and one of its most misunderstood characteristics. How can a lower-grade card have a higher estimated value than a higher-grade example? Chris explains the methodology behind CL Value, why each card and grade is treated independently, how the applicable market index is used to adjust an older sale, and why Card Ladder deliberately avoids creating a black-box algorithm that simply assumes a higher grade must always be worth more. Eye appeal makes the problem even more complicated, particularly with vintage cards where two examples carrying the exact same numerical grade can command dramatically different prices. David calls attention to the hobby's “dummy tax,” the price collectors and dealers can pay when they use data without understanding it. Jeremy also raises the opposite danger: knowledgeable buyers or sellers potentially weaponizing a valuation tool against someone who doesn't understand how the number was generated. Throughout the discussion, Chris returns to one central principle: don't outsource your judgment. A comp, an estimated value, a green check mark, an asking price and a current auction are all pieces of information, but none should replace your own research and understanding of the card. Plus, the group discusses stale comps, half grades, confidence levels, market manipulation around The National, why older sales may become more trustworthy with time, and whether there could ever be a truly “perfect” sports card valuation tool. Subscribe to Sports Cards Live on YouTube and wherever you listen to podcasts. Take the Hobby Spectrum Assessment and learn more at thehobbyspectrum.com. Discover cards across multiple auction platforms with AuctionWire at auctionwire.ai and use promo code SCL for 60 days free. Check out Card Ladder for sports card sales history, market data and research. And pick up Jeremy Lee's book, Pops and Comps: Truths, Insights, and Psychology Behind the Numbers That Drive the Sports Card Market, available on Amazon. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
How big is the Shohei Ohtani effect on the sports card hobby? Jeremy Lee, David Chase, Joe Poirot, Chris HOJ and Josh Adams dig into a phenomenon that may extend far beyond Ohtani's own cards. Chris reveals that the monthly dollar volume being spent on Ohtani is now on par with or even exceeding Michael Jordan, traditionally the biggest name in the Card Ladder database. But what happens to all that money after an Ohtani card sells? The panel explores how enormous gains on Ohtani cards can inject fresh capital back into the hobby as sellers redeploy their profits into other players, sports and eras. Ohtani's pursuit of baseball immortality can also lead collectors backward through history to Babe Ruth, Barry Bonds and other all-time greats, creating a potential ripple effect throughout the market. Then comes a provocative question: if manufacturers can put an Ohtani Logoman autograph into a new product and potentially create a seven-figure card almost on demand, should collectors be concerned? David questions what scarcity means when manufacturers can continue producing new one-of-ones, patches and premium Ohtani cards year after year, while Jeremy asks whether some of the traditional rules used to analyze the sports card market still apply. The conversation returns to the possibility of an MLB work stoppage. Could a lockout reduce demand while simultaneously increasing supply and become a catalyst for a market correction? Would modern baseball take the biggest hit, or could the absence of daily baseball storylines also reduce interest in vintage legends who benefit indirectly from today's stars and their accomplishments? Vintage non-sports isn't necessarily safe either. David explains why the recent explosion in prices could eventually unleash a wave of previously ungraded cards once lower-cost grading tiers become available, potentially changing population reports dramatically. Finally, the panel tackles two monster basketball cards: the LeBron James and Kobe Bryant Exquisite Dual Logoman autograph versus Cooper Flagg's Debut Patch Autograph. Which sells for more, and what does the fact that we're even comparing them tell us about today's sports card market? Plus, can we ever truly know whether a massive public sale represents an arm's-length transaction, and how much verification should the hobby expect before treating it as a legitimate comp? Subscribe to Sports Cards Live on YouTube and wherever you listen to podcasts. Take the Hobby Spectrum Assessment and learn more at thehobbyspectrum.com. Discover cards across multiple auction platforms with AuctionWire at auctionwire.ai and use promo code SCL for 60 days free. Check out Card Ladder for sports card sales history, market data and research. And pick up Jeremy Lee's book, Pops and Comps: Truths, Insights, and Psychology Behind the Numbers That Drive the Sports Card Market, available on Amazon. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
If the sports card market eventually turns, will every card get hit equally? Jeremy Lee is joined by David Chase, Joe Poirot, Chris HOJ and Josh Adams for a wide-ranging hobby roundtable about what the next market cycle could actually look like and whether collectors are better prepared for it this time. The panel debates whether the hobby has really gotten smarter since the last major downturn or whether there is simply more money in the market today. If collectors suddenly need liquidity, do they sell their best and most valuable cards first because one transaction can raise the necessary cash, or do they protect those cards and work from the bottom of their collections instead? That leads to one of the biggest questions of the episode: high supply versus scarcity. Could cards with enormous populations face significantly more downside if sellers flood the market, while scarce cards, low-numbered issues, one-of-ones and important vintage cards prove more resilient because demand only has to compete for a limited number of available copies? The conversation also turns to the return of football, basketball and hockey. After an unusually hot summer for retired players, vintage cards and 1990s issues, what happens when current athletes begin generating daily headlines again? Does hobby attention shift back toward active players, and could that create buying opportunities elsewhere? The group also discusses whether there is even such a thing as a hobby offseason anymore. Collectors are connected to auctions, marketplaces and their watchlists 24 hours a day, seven days a week. Does it still matter what night an auction ends, or has technology permanently changed collector behavior? Plus, David wonders whether the traditional November and December buying opportunity will return this year, Chris looks at historical fourth-quarter market performance, the panel considers how a potential baseball work stoppage could affect modern baseball cards, and Joe explains why rising prices have him returning to one of the simplest collecting principles of all: finding cards with great aesthetics and character. Subscribe to Sports Cards Live on YouTube and wherever you listen to podcasts. Take the Hobby Spectrum Assessment and learn more at thehobbyspectrum.com. Discover cards across multiple auction platforms with AuctionWire at auctionwire.ai and use promo code SCL for 60 days free. Check out Card Ladder for sports card sales history, market data and research. And pick up Jeremy Lee's book, Pops and Comps: Truths, Insights, and Psychology Behind the Numbers That Drive the Sports Card Market, available on Amazon. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
What does the explosion of card shows tell us about the health and future of the hobby? Steve Menzie, owner and operator of the Sport Card Expo and co-operator of the legendary Strongsville Sports Collectors Convention, joins Jeremy Lee and David Chase for an inside look at the card show business and just how dramatically it has changed over the past decade. Card shows aren't simply places to buy and sell anymore. They've become social gatherings, entertainment experiences and an important place where online hobby relationships become real-world friendships. Steve discusses the growth he's witnessed, the influx of younger collectors and families, and why fans who may initially come for autographs or other attractions are increasingly becoming card collectors themselves. They also tackle the massive growth of TCG at shows and whether sports cards and TCG should be separated, the challenge of curating the right mix of dealers and inventory, and why buying has become as important as selling for many vendors. Then David puts Steve on the spot with ideas borrowed from Comic Cons and other major fan events. Why can't card shows offer better food, easier access to water, more places to sit, carpeted floors and a smoother entry experience? Steve explains which improvements promoters can actually control, which ones venues make surprisingly difficult, and where he believes card shows still need to level up. Security is becoming another major concern. With increasingly valuable cards and large amounts of cash changing hands, Steve discusses theft, counterfeit currency, parking-lot safety, increased police presence and mandatory collector insurance for dealers at his shows. Plus, we get an update on the future of Strongsville, why maintaining its vintage identity matters so much, and the search for the right long-term home for one of the hobby's most beloved vintage shows. And we find out what happens when a longtime card-show promoter becomes a collector himself, as Steve shares the vintage baseball cards that have pulled him deeper into the hobby. Subscribe to Sports Cards Live on YouTube and wherever you listen to podcasts. Take the Hobby Spectrum Assessment and learn more at thehobbyspectrum.com. Discover cards across multiple auction platforms with AuctionWire at auctionwire.ai and use promo code SCL for 60 days free. Check out Card Ladder for sports card sales history, market data and research. And pick up Jeremy Lee's book, Pops and Comps: Truths, Insights, and Psychology Behind the Numbers That Drive the Sports Card Market, available on Amazon. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
The sports card market is running hot, cards are hitting prices many collectors never imagined, and suddenly a new question is creeping into the conversation: should we be getting nervous? Jeremy Lee and David Chase discuss the psychology of collecting and investing during a rapidly rising market. When a card you love is suddenly worth many times what you paid for it, when does the money become more meaningful than the card? Do you take profits, build up cash reserves and prepare for the next downturn, or hold onto the cards you bought because you genuinely wanted to own them in the first place? They also examine the difference between healthy appreciation and outright market madness, whether increased supply from collectors taking profits could contribute to the next correction, and why selling a card at today's inflated price only to buy another card at today's inflated price may not accomplish much at all. What happens when your favorite collecting lane simply becomes too expensive? Jeremy and David discuss moving between collecting lanes, buying what you actually love, the difference between collecting and investing, and why adaptability may be one of the most important traits a collector can have. The conversation eventually turns to an even bigger question: are we simply experiencing another hobby bubble, or have sports cards and collectibles reached a new level of cultural relevance that could permanently expand the market? Plus, David reports directly from the massive Front Row Card Show in Pasadena, where 770 tables, strong attendance, active buying and positive dealer sentiment offered a real-time look at the current strength of the hobby. Subscribe to Sports Cards Live on YouTube and wherever you listen to podcasts. Take the Hobby Spectrum Assessment and learn more at thehobbyspectrum.com. Discover cards across multiple auction platforms with AuctionWire at auctionwire.ai and use promo code SCL for 60 days free. Check out Card Ladder for sports card sales history, market data and research. And pick up Jeremy Lee's book, Pops and Comps: Truths, Insights, and Psychology Behind the Numbers That Drive the Sports Card Market, available on Amazon. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Dr. Beckett returns with a “Pushback 2.0” episode responding to discussions from Jeremy Lee's Sports Card Live, offering added context from his experience. He argues grading isn't haphazard contrasting PSA's whole-grade approach with BGS subgrades and pristine/black label concepts. He traces modern grading standards back to early-1970s word-based definitions he helped synthesize, noting evolving interpretations around issues like pinholes and qualifiers. Beckett addresses card manipulation and restoration, distinguishing minor cleaning from more severe practices like bathing to alter size and trimming. He also discusses risks for financially sophisticated but hobby-inexperienced “new money,” warns against overreliance on low population reports, defends a disciplined 401(k) borrowing example, and agrees modern prices and production are too high and could face correction. 00:58 Pushback on Grading 05:30 Origins of Standards 06:57 Pinholes and Damage 09:03 Card Doctoring Debate 12:01 New Money vs Veterans 14:24 Low Pop Misreads 15:57 401k Discipline Story 17:27 Prices and Overproduction
How do you decide where your collection ends when there are seemingly endless things you could collect? Jeremy Lee, David Chase, Joe Poirot and Joshua Adams wrap up Sports Cards Live with a conversation about the collecting rabbit hole and whether having boundaries actually makes the hobby more enjoyable. Sports cards are only the beginning. Mickey Mouse, Superman, Batman, The Beatles, Bob Dylan, Muhammad Ali, Marilyn Monroe, historical figures, musicians, movie stars and fictional characters can all become entirely new collecting lanes. At some point, does having so many possibilities become mentally exhausting? The guys discuss nostalgia, personal connections and what actually compels us to add something to our collections. Does there need to be a deep emotional connection, or can appreciating the cultural and historical significance of a person or character be enough? Jeremy then shares a perfect example of buying purely because you love the card: a beautiful 1933 John Player & Sons Don Quixote card he had never seen before. He knew virtually nothing about the card, didn't check the comps and still threw in a bid. Why? Because he loved it. Sometimes the worst-case scenario is simply that you paid $100 for a card you love. The conversation also turns to whether hockey cards still have significant room to grow. Despite the explosion occurring across many parts of the hobby, cards like the Wayne Gretzky rookie in many grades haven't experienced the same dramatic movement. Rather than calling hockey "undervalued," Jeremy explains why he prefers another word: potential. Could greater interest in hockey, particularly in the United States, eventually bring substantially more demand into hockey cards? And could hockey simply be another collecting category whose moment hasn't arrived yet? Check out The Hobby Spectrum:thehobbyspectrum.com Discover cards across the hobby with Auction Wire:auctionwire.aiUse code SCL for 30 days free. Research your cards with Card Ladder:Use promo code SCL Pick up a copy of Pops and Comps: Truths, Insights, and Psychology Behind the Numbers That Drive the Sports Card Market by Jeremy Lee on Amazon. Subscribe to Sports Cards Live on YouTube and wherever you listen to podcasts, and follow Jeremy on Instagram @jlee_sportscardslive. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Have you ever seen a card, known almost nothing about it, and wanted to buy it anyway? Joshua Adams joins Jeremy Lee, David Chase and Joe Poirot for a conversation about one of the most enjoyable parts of collecting: discovering something completely new. Jeremy explains how an Isaiah Thomas Superfractor he had never seen before got him thinking about buying cards before knowing the checklist, the population, the comps or even much about the set itself. Joe admits he's frequently bought first and figured out exactly what he purchased later, while David explains why his move into non-sports cards has him doing the same thing with cards of The Beatles, Elvis Presley, Muhammad Ali, Marilyn Monroe and others. Sometimes the card is cool enough that you simply want it. The guys also debate whether you need to actually be a fan of an athlete to collect their cards. Can you appreciate a great card of a player you have no emotional connection to? Do you need to justify what you collect at all? Then they dig into the extraordinary number of seven-figure card sales happening right now. Four million-dollar cards sold through Heritage in a single night, including a T206 Honus Wagner, a 1952 Topps Mickey Mantle and a Michael Jordan buyback autograph. Add the $1.28 million Macklin Celebrini sale and several other recent results, and August alone has produced an incredible run of million-dollar transactions. Is this simply a hot market, or are we watching the upper end of the hobby enter an entirely different era? Finally, the conversation comes back to discovery and why stumbling into an entirely new collecting lane, whether it's Mickey Mouse, memorabilia cards, vintage non-sports or something you've walked past for years without noticing, can be one of the best parts of the hobby. Check out The Hobby Spectrum:thehobbyspectrum.com Discover cards across the hobby with Auction Wire:auctionwire.aiUse code SCL for 30 days free. Research your cards with Card Ladder:Use promo code SCL Pick up a copy of Pops and Comps: Truths, Insights, and Psychology Behind the Numbers That Drive the Sports Card Market by Jeremy Lee on Amazon. Subscribe to Sports Cards Live on YouTube and wherever you listen to podcasts, and follow Jeremy on Instagram @jlee_sportscardslive. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
EPISODE 390 - Clark plugs a couple of shows he'll be at in-perosn coming up including ARC World coming up in Sept. 12. He also mentions that he appeared on Sports Cards Live with Jeremy Lee recently.Then Clark introduces Dave (@wolfheartscards) to talk about the state of the soccer card market now that the World Cup is over. He also mentions his big trade involving two GOAT players. And in the rapid fire section, Dave answers questions like who is currently underrated right now, ranking some of the top English soccer players, and more! --------------------------CONNECT WITH US!Instagram: @cardstothemoon | @fivecardguys (Clark) | @yntegritysportscards (Hyung) | @tradeyouatrecess (John)Website: https://fivecardguys.com/podcastDaily Auctions (w/ affiliate links): https://fivecardguys.com/dailyauctionsIf you have any questions about the hobby that you would like addressed, email us at hello@fivecardguys.com or DM us on Instagram at @cardstothemoon or @fivecardguys.
What goes through your mind when you're bidding more than $1 million on a hockey card? Jason Koonce joins Jeremy Lee and David Chase after revealing that he was the underbidder on the Macklin Celebrini Gold Outburst 1/1 that sold for approximately $1.28 million. Jason explains why he was willing to spend seven figures on a player only two years into his NHL career, where he originally wanted to be on the card, how a bidding war pushed him far beyond that number, and the moment he finally decided to stop. It leads to a fascinating discussion about collecting versus investing, taking calculated risks on young athletes and whether there's additional enjoyment in owning a major card of a player whose entire career is still ahead of him. Would Jason have been watching every Celebrini game if he'd won it? Absolutely. Joe Poirot then joins the conversation as the guys debate the risk and reward of collecting active players versus waiting until their careers are established. Is there value in having some skin in the game and experiencing the ride, even when you know the investment could go badly? Finally, Jeremy introduces another question: Do you trust yourself more than you trust the market? Using his recent Barry Sanders Exquisite nameplate patch purchase as an example, Jeremy explains why sometimes decades of collecting experience tell you that a card is worth more than the market currently says it is. Are you willing to ignore the last comp, trust your own judgment and pay what you believe a card is worth? Check out The Hobby Spectrum:thehobbyspectrum.com Discover cards across the hobby with Auction Wire:auctionwire.aiUse code SCL for 30 days free. Research your cards with Card Ladder:Use promo code SCL Pick up a copy of Pops and Comps: Truths, Insights, and Psychology Behind the Numbers That Drive the Sports Card Market by Jeremy Lee on Amazon. Subscribe to Sports Cards Live on YouTube and wherever you listen to podcasts, and follow Jeremy on Instagram @jlee_sportscardslive. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
When does sharing your passion for a card become "pumping" it? Jeremy Lee and David Chase tackle one of the hobby's favorite accusations: that anyone publicly talking about cards they love must be pumping them. Is there a meaningful difference between genuinely sharing your enthusiasm and deliberately creating hype because you're planning to sell? They discuss how collectors influence and inspire one another, why discovering new collecting lanes is part of the fun, and why being accused of pumping isn't going to stop them from talking about cards they're excited about. The conversation then turns to MBA and eye appeal. Should MBA disclose cards that were submitted but didn't receive a sticker? Does charging based on card value create a potential conflict of interest? Is MBA primarily a tool for flippers, or does it provide real value to collectors looking for exceptional examples within a grade? Jeremy also explains why he would rather trust his own eye than pay a premium for someone else's eye appeal assessment. Finally, what exactly is a "money grab," and why has making money become such a dirty phrase in the hobby? They dig into flipping, dealers, auction houses and the distinction between buying a card to collect versus buying it with the intention of selling it. Check out The Hobby Spectrum:thehobbyspectrum.com Discover cards across the hobby with Auction Wire:auctionwire.aiUse code SCL for 30 days free. Research your cards with Card Ladder:Use promo code SCL Pick up a copy of Pops and Comps: Truths, Insights, and Psychology Behind the Numbers That Drive the Sports Card Market by Jeremy Lee on Amazon. Subscribe to Sports Cards Live on YouTube and wherever you listen to podcasts, and follow Jeremy on Instagram @jlee_sportscardslive. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
The non-sports card market has gone absolutely nuclear. Jeremy Lee and David Chase dig into the explosion in vintage Mickey Mouse, Disney, Marvel and other non-sports cards, including the stunning rise of the 1931 Wills Mickey Mouse card and just how quickly collectors are being priced out of cards that were attainable only weeks ago. Is this simply hype and FOMO spreading into another corner of the hobby, or are collectors beginning to recognize something much bigger? Jeremy and David discuss the enormous cultural reach of characters like Mickey Mouse, Superman and Spider-Man, and an intriguing question about long-term collectibility: fictional characters can continually be reinvented for new generations, while legendary athletes like Mickey Mantle, Willie Mays and Babe Ruth cannot. They also look at whether rising sports-card prices are actually helping drive collectors toward non-sports, what happens when population reports eventually increase, why comps are changing so quickly, and whether the current frenzy is sustainable or due for a pullback. And perhaps most importantly, this isn't only a non-sports boom. Prices are moving aggressively across the hobby. Check out The Hobby Spectrum:thehobbyspectrum.com Discover cards across the hobby with Auction Wire:auctionwire.aiUse code SCL for 30 days free. Research your cards with Card Ladder:Use promo code SCL Pick up a copy of Pops and Comps: Truths, Insights, and Psychology Behind the Numbers That Drive the Sports Card Market by Jeremy Lee on Amazon. Subscribe to Sports Cards Live on YouTube and wherever you listen to podcasts, and follow Jeremy on Instagram @jlee_sportscardslive. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Joe Poirot is back from his very first National, and after a couple of weeks to process the experience, he joins Jeremy Lee to break down what surprised him, what overwhelmed him, how the show changed his collecting eye and, of course, what he brought home. We take a look at Joe's National pickups, including everything from modern game-used pieces to beautiful pre-war cardboard, culminating in a pair of major vintage additions that might officially put the old “Beater Joe” nickname to rest. That leads us into a bigger conversation about vintage, eye appeal, buying the card instead of the grade, and an interesting question: with so much money pouring into other areas of the hobby, have collectors actually lost sight of just how important Babe Ruth is? And then Mother Nature decides to become part of Sports Cards Live. A massive Calgary thunderstorm knocks Jeremy completely offline in the middle of the livestream, leaving Joe unexpectedly in charge of the show while Jeremy tries to get his internet, modem and computer back from the dead. Another night of cards, collecting and completely unscripted Sports Cards Live. Check out The Hobby Spectrum at thehobbyspectrum.com and take the assessment to discover where you fit in the hobby. Try AuctionWire at auctionwire.ai and use promo code SCL to receive two free months. Check out Card Ladder and use promo code SCL. Buy Pops and Comps: Truths, Insights, and Psychology Behind the Numbers That Drive the Sports Card Market, available now on Amazon. And, as always, subscribe to Sports Cards Live on YouTube, turn on notifications, and if you enjoy the podcast, follow, rate and review Sports Cards Live on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you listen. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
EPISODE 388 - Clark hosts a short Friday episode giving a heads up on a few things he's working on or been involved with. One of them is being a guest on Jeremy Lee's popular Sports Card Live YouTube channel.He happened to be a past guest on the pod as well.Locally, Clark will also be setting up at ARC Homecoming event in the Greater Toronto Area where he plans to hvae hobby discussions with guests as well as some buying and selling of cards.And he teases another fun regular Tuesday episode coming up with Will and Roy. --------------------------CONNECT WITH US!Instagram: @cardstothemoon | @fivecardguys (Clark) | @yntegritysportscards (Hyung) | @tradeyouatrecess (John)Website: https://fivecardguys.com/podcastDaily Auctions (w/ affiliate links): https://fivecardguys.com/dailyauctionsIf you have any questions about the hobby that you would like addressed, email us at hello@fivecardguys.com or DM us on Instagram at @cardstothemoon or @fivecardguys.
What does "rare" actually mean in the sports card hobby anymore? A Michael Jordan Molten Metal Fusion Titanium numbered to just 40 copies reportedly sells privately for nearly $1 million, sparking a fascinating debate. To an ultra-modern collector accustomed to cards numbered to 10, 5 or even one-of-ones, is /40 really rare? To a 90s collector, /40 can be extraordinarily rare. And to a vintage collector, rarity may have an entirely different meaning. Chris McGill of Card Ladder brings the question to the Sports Cards Live panel and we go deep. We discuss manufactured scarcity versus organic rarity, print runs versus actual surviving populations, how often a card actually becomes available, and the enormous difference between a card being technically rare and being truly scarce. We also explore the importance of substitutes. There may only be 40 copies of one particular Michael Jordan card, but how many other desirable Jordan cards exist from that same season? Compare that to vintage icons where collectors may have far fewer alternatives. Then we add condition and eye appeal to the equation. Can an otherwise common card become effectively rare simply because exceptionally attractive copies almost never surface? Joe Poirot explains why owning a one-of-one has changed his entire perspective on rarity, while Jeff Hart, David Chase, Joshua Adams and Jeremy Lee bring their own collecting philosophies into the debate. Then we make it personal: What is the one card you simply wouldn't sell? From a Roberto Clemente rookie purchased as a teenager to an in-person Luka Doncic autograph tied to a special memory, a playing-era autographed Bill Russell rookie and Jeremy's Superman, Babe Ruth and Joe DiMaggio cards, everyone has a different reason why certain pieces become irreplaceable. Plus, we discuss the psychology of "not-for-sale" prices, Michael Jordan cards reaching astonishing new levels, whether collectors should actually WANT card prices to fall, and why sometimes loving the card matters more than loving the money. Featuring Jeremy Lee, Joe Poirot, David Chase, Jeff Hart, Chris McGill and Joshua Adams.
Why does a card sit relatively unnoticed for years and then suddenly explode? And more importantly, can you spot it before everybody else does? In Part 3 of our Sports Cards Live conversation, Jeff Hart joins Jeremy Lee and David Chase to explore the idea of a card having its "moment." Sometimes it's an influencer bringing attention to something overlooked. Sometimes it's a record sale. Sometimes collectors get priced out of one card and start looking for the next logical alternative. And sometimes a sleeping giant simply reaches the critical mass required for the hobby to finally notice it. We get into the cards and categories we believe could still be hiding in plain sight. Jeremy explains why he recently bought the 1977 Star Wars Princess Leia, why he believes vintage Exquisite football featuring all-time greats like Peyton Manning and Barry Sanders may be dramatically underappreciated compared to basketball, and how getting priced out of one card can lead collectors toward the next opportunity. David takes the same approach to Larry Doby, Satchel Paige, Sandy Koufax and Roberto Clemente, and explains why he believes Diego Maradona may be lagging behind the other giants of soccer collecting. We also discuss the rise of 1935 Mickey Mouse and 1940 Superman, Jackie Robinson and the growing importance of eye appeal, the role of social media and influential collectors, and whether it's actually possible to identify these hobby movements before the masses arrive. Then Chris McGill and Josh Adams join the panel and we return to the National pricing debate from a different perspective. Are collectors complaining about high prices actually a healthy sign? Why do collectors hold tighter when markets are rising? And when a truly rare card finally becomes available, does the last comp even matter? Ultimately, it leads to a very simple question: Do you like the cards more than you like the money? Featuring Jeremy Lee, David Chase, Jeff Hart, Chris McGill and Joshua Adams.
What happens when you discover a vintage card you believe has been overlooked, buy it, and then one of the biggest voices in collectibles suddenly calls out the exact same thing? In Part 2 of our post-National Sports Cards Live conversation, Jeremy Lee, Joe Poirot and David Chase are joined by Leighton Sheldon of Just Collect and Auction Wire for a deeper look at pricing, buying and negotiating at the 2026 National. Leighton gives us the dealer's perspective on the "overpriced National" debate and explains what he saw from both sides of the table. We dig into the difference between commodity cards and genuinely scarce cards, when comps matter, when they don't tell the whole story, paying premiums for exceptional eye appeal, and why building rapport can make a real difference when trying to get a deal done. Then things take an unexpected turn. Jeremy reveals the 1935 Mickey Mouse card he had identified months earlier as a new personal grail, along with an extremely scarce O-Pee-Chee variation he discovered through Auction Wire. David had also started buying cards from the set at the National. Then, almost immediately afterward, a video surfaced of Gary Vaynerchuk specifically calling out 1935 Mickey Mouse and 1940 Superman as vintage fictional cards he believes have significant potential. Within days, available examples began disappearing and asking prices jumped dramatically. Coincidence? The Gary Vee effect? Or an overlooked segment of vintage collecting finally starting to get attention? We also get the incredible story behind Leighton's 1948 Leaf Hal Newhouser deal with David, discuss why relationships still matter in the hobby, and look at how tools like Auction Wire are changing the way collectors discover cards they might otherwise never find. Featuring Jeremy Lee, Joe Poirot, David Chase and Leighton Sheldon.
Was the 2026 National really overpriced, or were collectors simply experiencing the realities of a rising sports card market? In Part 1 of our post-National Sports Cards Live conversation, Jeremy Lee is joined by Joe Poirot and David Chase to break down what they actually saw on the show floor. Were dealers asking too much? Were there still deals to be found? And how much does your approach to a dealer affect the price you're ultimately able to negotiate? We get into comps, "not for sale" pricing, why dealers may be reluctant to sell at the last recorded sale, and the lost art of actually talking to people before asking, "What's your best price?" We also discuss the enormous demand for grading at the National, PSA and Beckett being overwhelmed, whether collectors should simply wait to submit their cards, and the growing fascination with MBA stickers and fourth-party card assessment. Plus, some National stories, the aftermath of a marathon week in Chicago, and plenty of interaction with the Sports Cards Live community. Featuring Jeremy Lee, Joe Poirot and David Chase.
Dr. Beckett recaps his week at the 2026 National Sports Collectors Convention in Chicago, describing the event as maximally crowded, the biggest National ever, with long lines and high energy. He details his buying-focused approach centered on dollar boxes, especially with the Singles Club, noting which days and times produced the best finds and how dealer markdowns shaped his strategy. Beckett shares highlights including a YouTube content creator gathering, meetings (notably with COMC's Tim Getsch), traditional hobby dinners, and Jeremy Lee's well-produced Shark Tank presentation where Dr. Beckett gave brief remarks paying tribute to deceased National co-founder Mike Berkus. He discusses skipping trade nights, signing autographs without charging, losing his voice from the crowd, travel/packing tactics, and returning home tired but enthusiastic about next year's National and the hobby's continued momentum. 01:48 Staying Fueled and Ready 02:28 Wednesday Arrival Plan 02:51 Singles Club Routine 05:52 Best Times to Buy 06:53 YouTube Creator Meetup 08:07 Friday Meetings and OG Dinner 09:48 Saturday Shark Tank Event 12:04 Sunday Deals and Awkward Checkout 13:15 Autographs and Show Observations 15:05 Packing and Card Plans
The tools required to build a product have become available to everyone.That does not mean every product needs to exist.Scott Lock, CEO of InfernoRed Technology, joins Brett to discuss the growth of hobby tech and what separates an idea from something collectors will use.They also preview Enter the Inferno, a pitch event created by Sports Cards Live and InfernoRed Technology for The National. Hobby founders will present their ideas to Scott, Ed Snyder, Jeremy Lee, and Dr. James Beckett on the main stage.The conversation covers collector engagement, founder conviction, product demand, AI, and why the next hobby platform should offer more than another way to check comps.Enter the Inferno takes place Saturday at 3 p.m. on the main stage at The National.Check out the awesome software that InfernoRed Technology can build for you.Get your free copy of Collecting For Keeps: Finding Meaning In A Hobby Built On HypeStart your 7 day free trial of Stacking Slabs Patreon TodaySign up for Hobby Jobs and The Weekly Rip for freeFollow Stacking Slabs: | Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Tiktok ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★
Jeremy Lee asked me a question on his show- after I said that Fanatics wants to make the hobby better. He asked what that meant- and for who?- SO let's discuss that- and answer the question: Is Fanatics the Bad Guy?
The conversation comes full circle. In the final chapter of this Sports Cards Live discussion, Jeremy Lee, David Chase, Joe Poirot, and Josh Adams reflect on the broader implications of the reconstructed T206 Honus Wagner and what it may mean for the future of sports card collecting. The panel discusses whether restoration will become more accepted, how collectors should think about exceptions, where personal collecting philosophies differ from hobby standards, and why context matters when evaluating altered or restored cards. The episode also includes a fun conversation about LeBron James, player legacies, and whether changing teams affects a superstar's long-term collectibility. In this episode: Has the hobby reached a tipping point on restoration? Can collectors make exceptions for iconic cards? Personal collecting rules vs. hobby standards Does intent matter when a card is altered? Could the FrankenWagner change collecting forever? LeBron James, team loyalty, and hobby legacy Final thoughts from the panel Looking ahead to The National Thank you for listening to Sports Cards Live. If you enjoyed this episode, please help us grow the hobby by supporting the show:
Has the hobby crossed a line, or opened the door to something entirely new? The debate over the reconstructed T206 Honus Wagner continues as Jeremy Lee, David Chase, Josh Adams, and Joe Poirot explore the bigger implications of the now-famous "FrankenWagner." Could this become the template for future restorations? Did CGC make the right call? What should the card actually be called? And perhaps the biggest question of all: if you had the money, would you buy it? The conversation expands well beyond one card and examines what this means for grading companies, restoration standards, collector confidence, and the future of vintage sports cards. In this episode: Did CGC make the right decision? Is the FrankenWagner changing the hobby? What should the label actually say? Would you buy this card over an authentic Wagner? Could this become the new standard for restoration? The cheapest path to owning a T206 Wagner? Where should grading companies draw the line? The panel debates the future of restoration Whether you're fascinated by restoration, passionate about vintage cards, or simply curious where the hobby is headed, this is a discussion you won't want to miss. Please support the show!
The conversation about the reconstructed T206 Honus Wagner takes an unexpected turn. What begins as a debate over one controversial card quickly becomes a broader discussion about grading company transparency, authentication standards, and whether collectors are receiving enough information to make informed buying decisions. Jeremy Lee is joined by David Chase, Joe Poirot, and Josh Adams as they debate whether the famous "FrankenWagner" should really be considered authentic, restored, rebuilt, or something entirely different. More importantly, they ask whether grading companies owe collectors far more transparency than they're currently providing. In this episode: The FrankenWagner debate continues Should grading companies disclose more information? Why "Authentic" may not be enough QR codes, restoration reports, and collector transparency Are grading companies following their own standards? Restoration vs. reconstruction Can collectors truly trust the label? The future of grading and authentication This conversation goes beyond one famous card and explores what collectors should reasonably expect from the companies entrusted to authenticate the hobby's most valuable collectibles. Please support the show!
Some cards are important. Others become hobby history. Jeremy Lee is joined by Leighton Sheldon to examine two extraordinary vintage cards headed to auction: one of the few known signed 1948 Leaf Jackie Robinson rookie cards and a remarkable signed 1952 Bowman Mickey Mantle with an incredible backstory. The conversation explores rarity, provenance, auction estimates, and why these types of discoveries continue to captivate collectors decades after the cards were produced. Later in the episode, Leighton surprises the Sports Cards Live community with a generous National giveaway before Josh Adams joins the discussion to talk National anticipation and the excitement surrounding some of the hobby's biggest upcoming auctions. Topics include: One of the hobby's rarest signed Jackie Robinson cards The remarkable signed 1952 Bowman Mickey Mantle Why provenance matters Estimating the final auction prices National Sports Collectors Convention excitement Leighton Sheldon's $250 National giveaway Josh Adams joins the conversation The cards everyone will be watching this summer Thank you for listening to Sports Cards Live, your hobby headquarters for news, interviews, auctions, and thoughtful conversations about sports cards and memorabilia. Please support the show! ✅ Follow the podcast so you never miss an episode. ⭐ If you enjoy the show, leave a 5-star rating and review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify.
Has sports card restoration reached a turning point? Jeremy Lee is joined by Leighton Sheldon to examine one of the most controversial cards the hobby has seen in years: the reconstructed T206 Honus Wagner, commonly referred to as the "FrankenWagner." The discussion explores whether this remarkable piece should be viewed as restoration, recreation, fabrication, or something entirely new. They also debate how grading companies should classify reconstructed cards, whether this card's famous story adds to its value, and what precedent it could set for the future of vintage collecting. Topics include: The reconstructed T206 Honus Wagner Restoration vs. recreation Is the "FrankenWagner" still an authentic card? The Tommy Leach background controversy CGC's "Authentic Restored" designation Could this create a dangerous precedent? Where does restoration end? Predicting the final auction price Whether you agree or disagree, this conversation asks one of the biggest philosophical questions facing today's hobby. Thank you for listening to Sports Cards Live. Please support the show: ✅ Follow the podcast so you never miss an episode. ⭐ Leave a 5-star rating and review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. It helps more collectors discover the show.
The hobby's biggest controversy just got even bigger. Jeremy Lee opens the episode with David Chase, discussing National budgeting, the summer auction season, Michael Jordan's renewed partnership with Upper Deck, and the latest hobby headlines before welcoming investigative journalist Darren Rovell for an in-depth conversation about one of the most controversial stories in recent hobby history. Together they unpack the former Collectible fractional assets now being sold through Heritage Auctions, the legal authority behind the sales, the ethical questions surrounding the proceeds, what this means for former investors, and why the story is far from over. In this episode: Heritage's controversial fractional asset auctions Who really owns these collectibles? Can former investors recover their money? Legal rights vs. ethical responsibility Why another major auction house reportedly passed Michael Jordan's new Upper Deck Legacy Partner agreement National buying strategies and managing the hobby budget Whether you're a collector, investor, dealer, or simply passionate about the hobby, this is one conversation you won't want to miss. Please support the show!
The conversation doesn't end when the auction begins. Jeremy Lee, David Chase, Joe Poirot, Josh Adams, and Robert Rothenberg wrap up this episode with a discussion about one of the hobby's most talked-about developing stories: the controversy surrounding assets formerly held by Collectible and their appearance in an upcoming Heritage Auctions sale. The panel explores the responsibilities of auction houses, the challenges surrounding ownership and collector confidence, and why transparency matters as the hobby navigates increasingly complex situations. The discussion also revisits restored cards, whether grading companies should encapsulate them with full disclosure, and how collectors should approach cards that have been repaired or conserved. The episode closes with a preview of next week's Sports Cards Live, where Jeremy will continue investigating the Collectible situation with guests who have firsthand knowledge of the story. If you enjoy the episode, please subscribe, leave a rating and review on your favorite podcast platform, and share it with a fellow collector. It really helps more collectors discover the show. Watch Sports Cards Live on YouTube for the full video experience, and follow Jeremy Lee on Fanatics Collect for exclusive live shows, including The Hunt and weekly auction watch parties. Fanatics Collect referral link:https://fanaticscollect.onelink.me/xx0N/iyiniif4 Thank you for listening, and remember... Sports cards is a lifestyle. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Every collector's journey eventually changes. Jeremy Lee, Joe Poirot, Josh Adams, and Robert Rothenberg discuss what it's like to experience an entire hobby market cycle, from the explosive boom of 2020 through the correction that followed and into today's evolving market. Robert shares how he re-entered the hobby chasing the next superstar before eventually finding his passion in T206 cards, rare backs, and long-term collecting goals. Along the way, the panel discusses grading philosophy, the value of raw versus graded cards, why buying the card instead of the grade still matters, and how experience changes the way collectors deploy their hobby dollars. The conversation closes with an interesting look at set collecting, why it isn't as common as it once was, and whether modern collectors have shifted toward curating personal collections instead of completing checklists. If you enjoy the episode, please subscribe, leave a rating and review on your favorite podcast platform, and share it with a fellow collector. It really helps more collectors discover the show. Watch Sports Cards Live on YouTube for the full video experience, and follow Jeremy Lee on Fanatics Collect for exclusive live shows, including The Hunt and weekly auction watch parties. Fanatics Collect referral link:https://fanaticscollect.onelink.me/xx0N/iyiniif4 Thank you for listening, and remember... Sports cards is a lifestyle. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
What actually makes a sports card beautiful? Jeremy Lee is joined by Robert Rothenberg, Josh Adams, and Joe Poirot for a fascinating conversation that challenges one of the hobby's most accepted beliefs: is centering really the most important part of eye appeal? The panel debates whether sharp corners, registration, color, focus, or centering should carry the most weight when evaluating vintage cards, why collectors often value different qualities, and how those preferences shape the way they build their collections. The conversation then shifts to the grading industry as the panel explores whether Fanatics could eventually enter the grading business, which company might make the most sense as an acquisition target, and what another serious competitor could mean for collectors while PSA continues to dominate the market. If you enjoy the episode, please subscribe, leave a rating and review on your favorite podcast platform, and share it with a fellow collector. It really helps more collectors discover the show. Watch Sports Cards Live on YouTube for the full video experience, and follow Jeremy Lee on Fanatics Collect for exclusive live shows, including The Hunt and weekly auction watch parties. Fanatics Collect referral link:https://fanaticscollect.onelink.me/xx0N/iyiniif4 Thank you for listening, and remember... Sports cards is a lifestyle. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
What is a sports card really worth? Jeremy Lee is joined by David Chase, Robert Rothenberg, Joe Poirot, and Leighton Sheldon for a wide-ranging discussion that begins with PSA's grading guarantee and quickly expands into some of the hobby's biggest unanswered questions. How should collectors interpret comparable sales when buyers and sellers often pay vastly different amounts after premiums, taxes, shipping, and fees? Is "missing out" on a grail card actually a bigger force than fear of missing out? Could future technology eventually detect card restoration that today's grading companies miss? And if that happens, what does it mean for the hobby? The panel also explores collecting philosophy, scarcity, the pursuit of grail cards, and whether collectors would choose more money or more time if it meant enjoying the hobby differently. If you enjoy the episode, please subscribe, leave a rating and review on your favorite podcast platform, and share it with a fellow collector. It really helps more collectors discover the show. Watch Sports Cards Live on YouTube for the full video experience, and follow Jeremy Lee on Fanatics Collect for exclusive live shows, including The Hunt and weekly auction watch parties. Fanatics Collect referral link:https://fanaticscollect.onelink.me/xx0N/iyiniif4 Thank you for listening, and remember... Sports cards is a lifestyle. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Is the hobby quietly changing its mind about card restoration? Jeremy Lee, David Chase, and special guest Robert Rothenberg continue one of the most important conversations in today's hobby by examining real-world examples of restored vintage cards, including dramatic before-and-after transformations that have collectors questioning where conservation ends and alteration begins. The discussion explores surprising reactions from experienced collectors and dealers, whether restoration is becoming widely accepted, why grading companies may struggle to detect certain treatments, and what all of this means for buyers trying to build trustworthy collections. If the hobby's standards are evolving, what does that mean for the future of grading, collecting, and confidence in the marketplace? If you enjoy the episode, please subscribe, leave a rating and review on your favorite podcast platform, and share it with a fellow collector. It really helps more collectors discover the show. Watch Sports Cards Live on YouTube for the full video experience, and follow Jeremy Lee on Fanatics Collect for exclusive live shows, including The Hunt and weekly auction watch parties. Fanatics Collect referral link:https://fanaticscollect.onelink.me/xx0N/iyiniif4 Thank you for listening, and remember... Sports cards is a lifestyle. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
The hobby's biggest ethical debate may just be getting started. Jeremy Lee and David Chase dive into one of the most polarizing topics in sports cards today: restoration, conservation, cleaning, and where the line should actually be drawn. Is removing scrapbook residue acceptable? Does soaking a card fundamentally alter it? Is restoration becoming normalized, and if so, what does that mean for grading, authenticity, and collector trust? The discussion explores whether today's hobby is shifting toward accepting card conservation, how disclosure factors into the equation, whether PSA and other grading companies can realistically detect every restored card, and why this conversation could shape the future of vintage collecting. Whether you're a vintage purist, modern collector, dealer, or grader, this is a conversation every collector should hear. If you enjoy the episode, please subscribe, leave a rating and review on your favorite podcast platform, and share it with a fellow collector. It really helps more collectors discover the show. Watch Sports Cards Live on YouTube for the full video experience, and follow Jeremy Lee on Fanatics Collect for exclusive live shows, including The Hunt and weekly auction watch parties. Fanatics Collect referral link:https://fanaticscollect.onelink.me/xx0N/iyiniif4 Thank you for listening, and remember... Sports cards is a lifestyle. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
As the world becomes increasingly digital, what happens to physical collectibles? Jeremy Lee and Chris Hoge close out the show with a wide-ranging discussion about the future of sports cards, exploring why tangible collectibles may become even more meaningful in an increasingly virtual world. The conversation examines everything from digital collectibles and NFTs to the psychology of collecting, the importance of card shows, and why face-to-face interactions remain one of the hobby's greatest strengths. Jeremy shares a theory that physical collectibles could become even more desirable as everyday life continues moving toward digital experiences, while Chris expands on why authenticity, community, and human connection remain at the heart of the hobby. If you enjoy conversations that go beyond the cards themselves and explore why we collect in the first place, subscribe and join us every week. Watch Sports Cards Live every Saturday night, The Hangover every Wednesday, The Hunt on Fanatics Collect, Vintage Spotlight, and our Weekly & Premier Auction Ending Watch Parties. Join Fanatics Collect to watch exclusive Collect Originals content, enter giveaways, and follow Sports Cards Live:https://fanaticscollect.onelink.me/xx0N/iyiniif4 Take the Hobby Spectrum assessment to discover what type of collector you are:https://thehobbyspectrum.com Grab your copy of Pops & Comps:https://www.amazon.com/POPS-COMPS-Insights-Psychology-Numbers/dp/1069808903 If you enjoyed this episode, please subscribe, like the video, and leave a comment below. Do you think physical sports cards become more valuable as our world becomes increasingly digital, or will digital collectibles eventually take over? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Has PSA's submission pause unintentionally created an entirely new market? Jeremy Lee, Chris HOJ, and Chad Hawk explore one of the most thought-provoking ideas to emerge from the grading discussion: could the hobby be witnessing the rise of the "soft slab"? With grading companies facing unprecedented demand, the panel discusses whether intermediate services like GCC, Beckett's former Raw Card Review, and other condition assessment products could become a permanent part of the hobby landscape rather than simply filling a temporary gap. The conversation examines how innovation often begins during periods of disruption, why competition ultimately benefits collectors, and whether a new category of grading services could thrive alongside traditional encapsulation. If you enjoy discussions about where the hobby is headed, subscribe and join us every week as we explore the ideas shaping the future of sports cards. Watch Sports Cards Live every Saturday night, The Hangover every Wednesday, The Hunt on Fanatics Collect, Vintage Spotlight, and our Weekly & Premier Auction Ending Watch Parties. Join Fanatics Collect to watch exclusive Collect Originals content, enter giveaways, and follow Sports Cards Live:https://fanaticscollect.onelink.me/xx0N/iyiniif4 Take the Hobby Spectrum assessment to discover what type of collector you are:https://thehobbyspectrum.com Grab your copy of Pops & Comps:https://www.amazon.com/POPS-COMPS-Insights-Psychology-Numbers/dp/1069808903 If you enjoyed this episode, subscribe, like the video, and join the conversation below. Do you think the hobby has room for a permanent "soft slab" category, or will traditional grading always dominate? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Where is the line between preserving a card and altering it? Jeremy Lee, Chris Hoge, and Chad Hawk tackle one of the hobby's most controversial topics after watching a video that demonstrates the restoration of a valuable LeBron James rookie card. Is restoration simply conservation, or does it fundamentally change what collectors are buying? The conversation expands into the growing challenge of detecting sophisticated alterations, whether restoration could ever become accepted in sports cards the way it has in other collectibles, and how population reports, scarcity, and collector confidence could all be affected if restored cards became commonplace. The panel also discusses counterfeit cards, grading transparency, the importance of experienced authenticators, and why innovation will continue to shape the future of the hobby. If you enjoy thoughtful hobby discussions that challenge conventional thinking, subscribe and join us every week. Watch Sports Cards Live every Saturday night, The Hangover every Wednesday, The Hunt on Fanatics Collect, Vintage Spotlight, and our Weekly & Premier Auction Ending Watch Parties. Join Fanatics Collect to watch exclusive Collect Originals content, enter giveaways, and follow Sports Cards Live:https://fanaticscollect.onelink.me/xx0N/iyiniif4 Take the Hobby Spectrum assessment to discover what type of collector you are:https://thehobbyspectrum.com Grab your copy of Pops & Comps:https://www.amazon.com/POPS-COMPS-Insights-Psychology-Numbers/dp/1069808903 If you enjoyed this discussion, subscribe, like the video, and leave a comment below. We'd love to hear your opinion: Should restoration ever become acceptable in sports cards, or should the hobby continue drawing a hard line? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Can sports card grading evolve without completely reinventing the hobby? Jeremy Lee and David Chase continue their conversation with Chad Hawk, founder of GCC and former executive at Certified Collectibles Group, exploring whether the industry needs an entirely new approach to condition assessment. The discussion dives into the limits of traditional grading, the promise and challenges of AI, why TAG has struggled to gain widespread acceptance in sports cards despite its consistency, and how GCC hopes to create a lower-cost solution that helps collectors, dealers, and grading companies alike. Chad explains why GCC intentionally avoids assigning fixed numerical grades, instead focusing on condition ranges that keep the emphasis on the card rather than the label. The panel also answers tough questions from the live audience about authentication, guarantees, resale value, and whether collectors will embrace a different model. If you enjoy conversations about where the hobby is headed, subscribe and join us every week for honest, thoughtful discussions with hobby leaders and innovators. Watch Sports Cards Live every Saturday night, The Hangover every Wednesday, The Hunt on Fanatics Collect, Vintage Spotlight, and our Weekly & Premier Auction Ending Watch Parties. Join Fanatics Collect to watch exclusive Collect Originals content, enter giveaways, and follow Sports Cards Live:https://fanaticscollect.onelink.me/xx0N/iyiniif4 Take the Hobby Spectrum assessment to discover what type of collector you are:https://thehobbyspectrum.com Grab your copy of Pops & Comps:https://www.amazon.com/POPS-COMPS-Insights-Psychology-Numbers/dp/1069808903 If you enjoyed the discussion, please subscribe, like the video, and leave a comment. We'd love to hear your thoughts: Does the hobby need a new approach to grading, or should today's grading companies simply improve what already exists? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
PSA has paused several of its most popular submission tiers, and the ripple effects are being felt across the hobby. Jeremy Lee and David Chase welcome Chad Hawk, founder of GCC and former executive with over two decades of experience at Certified Collectibles Group (CCG), to discuss what this moment means for collectors, dealers, grading companies, and the future of authentication. The conversation explores the challenges of scaling a grading company while maintaining consistency, whether grading mistakes are inevitable, how acceptable error rates should be measured, and whether artificial intelligence can eventually remove subjectivity from the grading process. They also examine a controversial PSA 10 that appeared to have significant damage, discussing what likely happened, why public perception matters, and whether grading companies should also be selling cards through their own marketplaces. If you enjoy thoughtful conversations about grading, authentication, and the future of the hobby, subscribe and join us every week. Watch Sports Cards Live every Saturday night, The Hangover every Wednesday, The Hunt on Fanatics Collect, Vintage Spotlight, and our Weekly & Premier Auction Ending Watch Parties. Join Fanatics Collect using my affiliate link below to watch exclusive Collect Originals content, enter giveaways, and follow Sports Cards Live:https://fanaticscollect.onelink.me/xx0N/iyiniif4 Take the Hobby Spectrum assessment to discover what type of collector you are:https://thehobbyspectrum.com Grab your copy of Pops & Comps:https://www.amazon.com/POPS-COMPS-Insights-Psychology-Numbers/dp/1069808903 Subscribe, like, comment, and let us know: What level of grading error is acceptable, if any? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Can you really tell someone else how they should enjoy the hobby? This episode begins with a conversation that goes far beyond sports cards. Jeremy Lee and David Chase react to viewer feedback from last week's show and explore one of collecting's biggest philosophical questions: should collectors be concerned with how other people spend their money? The discussion covers funding purchases by selling cards, whether "true collectors" even exist, financial responsibility in the hobby, and why so many opinions may simply be projections of our own collecting experiences. Jeremy also shares details about his upcoming interview with one of the hobby's most recognizable breakers, Joe Hollywood, and discusses why he wanted the conversation to happen before the audience weighed in. If you enjoy thoughtful hobby conversations that go beyond prices and hype, be sure to subscribe and join us every week. Watch Sports Cards Live every Saturday night, The Hangover every Wednesday, The Hunt on Fanatics Collect, Vintage Spotlight, and our Weekly & Premier Auction Ending Watch Parties. Join Fanatics Collect using my affiliate link below to watch exclusive Collect Originals content, enter giveaways, and follow Sports Cards Live: https://fanaticscollect.onelink.me/xx0N/iyiniif4 Take the Hobby Spectrum assessment to discover what type of collector you are:https://thehobbyspectrum.com Grab your copy of Pops & Comps:https://www.amazon.com/POPS-COMPS-Insights-Psychology-Numbers/dp/1069808903 Subscribe, like, comment, and share your thoughts below. We'd love to hear where you stand on these hobby debates. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
The final segment of this special Sports Cards Live discussion brings the art collector versus investor debate to its conclusion as the panel explores what gives cards meaning beyond their price tags. Chris McGill, Joe Poirot, David Novak, Joshua Adams, and Jeremy Lee dive into the emotional, historical, and personal factors that shape collecting decisions and why some cards become far more significant than their market value suggests. Topics include: • Collecting as art versus collecting as investment• Why context matters when evaluating cards• Understanding a card's place within hobby history• Researching players, sets, and card significance• Emotional attachment and collecting satisfaction• Ownership as part of the reward• One-of-one cards and exclusivity• Illiquidity, rarity, and collector psychology• Whether a grail card reduces the desire for accumulation• The role of knowledge, storytelling, and hobby education The episode wraps with reflections on collecting, community, and what truly drives hobby passion, along with final thoughts from first-time Sports Cards Live guest David Novak. Featuring Jeremy Lee, Chris McGill, Joe Poirot, Joshua Adams, David Novak, and a special appearance by David Chase. Sports Cards Live is proudly supported by Just Collect, Auction Wire, Mint Ink, Front Row Card Show, Mr. Minty, Kronozio, Collector Investor Auctions, Upper Deck, Sport Card Expo, Card Ladder, COMC, and Inferno Red Technology. Links & Resources • The Hobby Spectrum: https://thehobbyspectrum.com• Pops & Comps on Amazon• Fanatics Collect Affiliate Link • Share this episode with a fellow collector Sports cards is a lifestyle. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
The conversation gets deeper as David Novak joins Jeremy Lee and David Chase for a spirited discussion about sports cards as investments, generational attitudes toward risk, and whether collectors should view cardboard as part of a broader financial strategy. David shares his perspective on why some millennials are more willing to take calculated risks with their investment portfolios, sparking an engaging debate on retirement accounts, diversification, risk tolerance, and the role sports cards can play alongside traditional investments. Topics include: • Are sports cards legitimate investments?• Millennials and risk-taking behavior• Using hobby knowledge as an investment advantage• 401(k)s, retirement planning, and alternative assets• Why some collectors prefer blue-chip cards over prospecting• Vintage versus ultra-modern investing• The dangers of chasing hype• Mahomes, Ohtani, Trout, Judge, LeBron, Crosby, and long-term collectability• Bubbles within the hobby market• Why experience and time horizon matter Jeremy, David Novak, and David Chase bring different perspectives to one of the hobby's most debated topics: whether sports cards belong in an investment portfolio and, if so, how. Links & Resources • The Hobby Spectrum: https://thehobbyspectrum.com • Pops & Comps on Amazon • Fanatics Collect Affiliate Link • Share this episode with a fellow collector Sports cards is a lifestyle. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Dr. Beckett recaps episodes 1526–1549 and revisits key themes: defining cash grabs, GOAT's, iconic cards, and then hobby pushbacks on eye appeal, grading consistency, and market manipulation. Dr. Beckett summarizes trips to the Toronto Sports Expo and the Watters Creek show, as well as episodes on lifelong reading/learning and probability/statistics, and the start of his annual father/son episodes with Jeremy Lee and his father Harvey. 00:27 Cash Grabs Debate 02:21 GOAT Meaning Unpacked 03:37 What Makes Cards Iconic 06:14 Ramblings With Rich 06:27 Toronto Show Recap 06:57 BB Card Hall of Fame Voting 07:56 Learning and Hobby Skills 10:56 Oh YAAS Advisory Update 12:07 Show Safety and Hobby Hotline 13:06 Fixing Grading Ideas
Dr. Beckett hosts a Father's Day podcast with Jeremy Lee of Sports Cards Live and his father, Harvey, discussing Jeremy's record-setting purchase of a 1914 Cracker Jack Shoeless Joe Jackson card, why it felt emotional but was later validated by other buyers, and the role of due diligence, intuition, and luck. They explore common beginner mistakes, especially collecting in isolation, and emphasize learning through community, podcasts, and longitudinal, multi-variable thinking. Jeremy explains he has no remorse consolidating over 330 cards to fund the grail, and frames mistakes as “tuition,” noting his book Pops and Comps aims to reduce costly errors. Dr. Beckett advises beginners to “wait” before big buys and to buy with “weight” by acquiring larger lots to spread risk, while also addressing impulsivity, market volatility, risk tolerance, and hobby addiction support via Collectors MD. 00:30 Shoeless Joe Record Buy 01:27 Trusting Your Gut 02:22 Beginner Mistakes 03:47 Long Term Thinking 04:48 Consolidation No Regrets 05:24 Mistakes as Tuition 07:27 Wait and Weight Rule 08:49 Rookies and Risk Balance 10:55 Action Now vs Patience 11:38 Addiction and Self Control 12:58 Hobby Spectrum Types
Welcome NoOffseason.com Family! We are so happy to have you with us to help you make money flipping sports cards using Data Driven Sports Card Investing.On today's show we have a special guest co-host - Jeremy Lee of Sports Cards Live, one of the top entrepreneurs and content creators in the hobby. You can find Jeremy on YouTube at SportsCardsLive and Instagram at jlee_sportscardslive … Author of Pops and Comps on Amazon.We discuss…One of his latest creations - The Hobby SpectrumHobby Greed - A Huge Problem?Fanatics vs. eBay2026 Fanatics Fest - Are you attending? Why? Why Not?Hobby Content Creation Strategy - The Good, The Bad, The UglyInternational Sports Card Market
Dr. Beckett welcomes guests Jeremy Lee (Sport Cards Live) and his father, Harvey. They reflect on sharing the hobby at events like the Toronto Sports Expo, emphasizing community, diplomacy, and how Jeremy's approach mirrors Harvey's service mindset. Harvey describes supporting Jeremy's shift from accountancy into the hobby despite initial trepidation, while Jeremy explains his growth from content creator to publisher and collaborator came from impulsive ideas rather than a master plan. They compare being Canadian versus American in medicine and the hobby, highlighting technology's global reach and currency impacts. The conversation closes with insights on market hype vs. long-term value, pricing signals, and common buyer mistakes driven by emotion, bias, and risk tolerance. 01:16 Hobby Time with Dad 02:17 Rotary and Community Lessons 04:52 Apple and the Tree 05:43 Pops and Comps 08:58 Building Without a Plan 12:38 Canada and a Global Hobby 16:05 Value vs Hype 16:44 Pricing and Market Signals 17:59 Buyer Mistakes and Bias
What does it look like to build a career in the sports card industry?In the debut episode of Hobby Jobs, Brett McGrath shares the vision behind the platform and why the hobby needs a dedicated place for operators, builders, and aspiring professionals.This episode explores the shift from hobby to industry and why the biggest opportunities often start as repeated friction, not business plans. Brett breaks down the signals coming from companies like PSA, eBay, GameStop, and Card Collector 2 and explains what they reveal about where the hobby is headed.Topics include:• Why Hobby Jobs was created• The growing demand for skilled professionals in the hobby• How to identify opportunity before everyone else sees it• Why proximity is a competitive advantage• Lessons from Jeremy Lee and Sports Cards Live• What hiring trends reveal about the future of the industry• Why content, trust, and systems matter more than everIf you're building in the hobby, looking to break into the industry, or trying to understand where the next wave of opportunity is forming, this episode is for you.Sign up for Hobby Jobs and The Weekly Rip for freeGet exclusive content, promote your cards, and connect with other collectors who listen to the pod today by joining the Patreon: Join Stacking Slabs Podcast PatreonFollow Stacking Slabs: | Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Tiktok ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★
Jeremy Lee has become one of the most trusted voices in sports card media.But before Sports Cards Live became a Saturday night destination for collectors, Jeremy was balancing a career in finance while building relationships, studying the hobby, and creating content because he loved the cards.In this conversation, Jeremy shares the full story behind Sports Cards Live, the growth of his auction coverage content, and the mindset shift that helped him turn hobby passion into full-time work.We also discuss: Why relationships became the foundation of his business The pressure and uncertainty of becoming a full-time creator What consistency has taught him about community The evolution of hobby media and trust The creation of Hobby Spectrum Why Pops and Comps became a 400-page passion project The role psychology plays in collecting and market behavior This episode is for anyone thinking about building something in the hobby.Collectors. Creators. Operators.Jeremy opens up about all of it.Sign up for Hobby Jobs and The Weekly Rip for freeA special thank you to eBay for sponsoring Passion to Profession. The biggest and best marketplace to buy your next favorite trading card.Get exclusive content, promote your cards, and connect with other collectors who listen to the pod today by joining the Patreon: Join Stacking Slabs Podcast PatreonFollow Stacking Slabs: | Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Tiktok ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★