Podcast appearances and mentions of John Curran

John Curran, who leads the Senate Republican caucus, joins the program to talk about the Republican perspective on the recently passed budget.

In the latest episode of Illinois Lawmakers, host Jak Tichenor spoke with legislators about key issues at the Capitol. Discussions included reactions to Gov. JB Pritzker's budget proposal, mass transit reform, and the potential impacts from federal funding cuts to Medicaid and education. Other issues discussed include a proposed bill to ban cell phones in Illinois schools. Hosted by Jak Tichenor.GUESTS:Sen. John Curran, Senate Minority Leader (R-Downers Grove)Sen. Cristina Castro, Majority Caucus Whip (D-Elgin)Sen. Ram Villavalam, Majority Caucus Whip (D-Chicago)Peter Hancock, Statehouse Reporter, Capitol News Illinois ABOUT THE SHOW:“Illinois Lawmakers” is the longest-running television series offering continuing coverage of the Illinois General Assembly. Now in its 40th year of production, the series has found a new home with Capitol News Illinois. Learn more at capitolnewsillinois.com. Capitol News Illinois is a program of the Illinois Press Foundation.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/heartland-newsfeed-radio-network--2904397/support.

WMAL GUEST: 7:35 AM - INTERVIEW - JOHN CURRAN - is running for election for Lieutenant Governor of Virginia (Republican). WEBSITE: https://curranforvirginia.com/ JOHN CURRAN declared candidacy for the Republican primary scheduled on June 17, 2025. General Election: The primary will occur on June 17, 2025. The general election will occur on November 4, 2025. Where to find more about WMAL's morning show: Follow the Show Podcasts on Apple podcasts, Audible and Spotify. Follow WMAL's "O'Connor and Company" on X: @WMALDC, @LarryOConnor, @Jgunlock, @patricepinkfile, and @heatherhunterdc. Facebook: WMALDC and Larry O'Connor Instagram: WMALDC Show Website: https://www.wmal.com/oconnor-company/ How to listen live weekdays from 5 to 9 AM: https://www.wmal.com/listenlive/ Episode: Wednesday, March 19, 2025 / 7 AM Hour See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In the 7 AM Hour: Larry O’Connor and Julie Gunlock discussed: WMAL GUEST: 7:05 AM - INTERVIEW - STEPHANIE LUNDQUIST-ARORA - a mother in Fairfax County, Virginia, an author, and the Fairfax chapter leader of the Independent Women’s Network ‘A Is for Abortion’: Public high school teaches ABCs for Women’s History Month Chief Justice Roberts shames judicial impeachment talk, rebukes Trump stance WMAL GUEST: 7:35 AM - INTERVIEW - JOHN CURRAN - is running for election for Lieutenant Governor of Virginia (Republican). WEBSITE: https://curranforvirginia.com/ JOHN CURRAN declared candidacy for the Republican primary scheduled on June 17, 2025. General Election: The primary will occur on June 17, 2025. The general election will occur on November 4, 2025. ON FRIDAY: President Trump plans to prevent relocation of FBI headquarters from D.C. to Maryland ROBERT DYER: If Maryland loses FBI HQ, Gov. Wes Moore may have only himself to blame Where to find more about WMAL's morning show: Follow the Show Podcasts on Apple podcasts, Audible and Spotify. Follow WMAL's "O'Connor and Company" on X: @WMALDC, @LarryOConnor, @Jgunlock, @patricepinkfile, and @heatherhunterdc. Facebook: WMALDC and Larry O'Connor Instagram: WMALDC Show Website: https://www.wmal.com/oconnor-company/ How to listen live weekdays from 5 to 9 AM: https://www.wmal.com/listenlive/ Episode: Wednesday, March 19, 2025 / 7 AM Hour See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

2/10/2025 PODCAST Episodes #1796 - #1798 GUESTS: Sen. Bill DeSteph. Neil McCabe, John Curran, Peter Gillooly, Dave Brat, Sen. Doug Mastriano, Rep. John Mcguire, Paul Teller, Rabbi Yaakov Menken + YOUR CALLS! at 1-888-480-JOHN (5646) and GETTR Live! @jfradioshow #GodzillaOfTruth #TruckingTheTruth   Want more of today's show? Episode #1796 Will Judges Rule on U.S. Military Operations, Too?; RFK Jr. or Bust Episode #1797 Selfie Shapiro Lies on Campaign Trail; Does The Opposite Episode #1798 Netanyahu Came With A Wishlist & Trump Doubled It   https://johnfredericksradio.libsyn.com/

2/10/2025 PODCAST Episodes #1796 - #1798 GUESTS: Sen. Bill DeSteph. Neil McCabe, John Curran, Peter Gillooly, Dave Brat, Sen. Doug Mastriano, Rep. John Mcguire, Paul Teller, Rabbi Yaakov Menken + YOUR CALLS! at 1-888-480-JOHN (5646) and GETTR Live! @jfradioshow #GodzillaOfTruth #TruckingTheTruth   Want more of today's show? Episode #1796 Will Judges Rule on U.S. Military Operations, Too?; RFK Jr. or Bust Episode #1797 Selfie Shapiro Lies on Campaign Trail; Does The Opposite Episode #1798 Netanyahu Came With A Wishlist & Trump Doubled It   https://johnfredericksradio.libsyn.com/

2/10/2025 PODCAST Episodes #1796 - #1798 GUESTS: Sen. Bill DeSteph. Neil McCabe, John Curran, Peter Gillooly, Dave Brat, Sen. Doug Mastriano, Rep. John Mcguire, Paul Teller, Rabbi Yaakov Menken + YOUR CALLS! at 1-888-480-JOHN (5646) and GETTR Live! @jfradioshow #GodzillaOfTruth #TruckingTheTruth   Want more of today's show? Episode #1796 Will Judges Rule on U.S. Military Operations, Too?; RFK Jr. or Bust Episode #1797 Selfie Shapiro Lies on Campaign Trail; Does The Opposite Episode #1798 Netanyahu Came With A Wishlist & Trump Doubled It   https://johnfredericksradio.libsyn.com/

1/13/2025 PODCAST Episodes #1754 - #1756 GUESTS: Alfredo Ortiz, Dr. Ben Tapper, Sen. Doug Mastriano, Dave Brat, Matt Schlapp, John Curran, Paul Teller, Rabbi Yaakov Menken + YOUR CALLS! at 1-888-480-JOHN (5646) and GETTR Live! @jfradioshow #GodzillaOfTruth #TruckingTheTruth   Want more of today's show? Episode #1754 Trump Effect Drives Economic Expansion; Communists In LA Watch Their City Burn Episode #1755 CPAC Takes The Mantle In Populist Policy Thought Episode #1756 Free Our Hostages Of Face the Fire of Death   https://johnfredericksradio.libsyn.com/

1/13/2025 PODCAST Episodes #1754 - #1756 GUESTS: Alfredo Ortiz, Dr. Ben Tapper, Sen. Doug Mastriano, Dave Brat, Matt Schlapp, John Curran, Paul Teller, Rabbi Yaakov Menken + YOUR CALLS! at 1-888-480-JOHN (5646) and GETTR Live! @jfradioshow #GodzillaOfTruth #TruckingTheTruth   Want more of today's show? Episode #1754 Trump Effect Drives Economic Expansion; Communists In LA Watch Their City Burn Episode #1755 CPAC Takes The Mantle In Populist Policy Thought Episode #1756 Free Our Hostages Of Face the Fire of Death   https://johnfredericksradio.libsyn.com/

1/13/2025 PODCAST Episodes #1754 - #1756 GUESTS: Alfredo Ortiz, Dr. Ben Tapper, Sen. Doug Mastriano, Dave Brat, Matt Schlapp, John Curran, Paul Teller, Rabbi Yaakov Menken + YOUR CALLS! at 1-888-480-JOHN (5646) and GETTR Live! @jfradioshow #GodzillaOfTruth #TruckingTheTruth   Want more of today's show? Episode #1754 Trump Effect Drives Economic Expansion; Communists In LA Watch Their City Burn Episode #1755 CPAC Takes The Mantle In Populist Policy Thought Episode #1756 Free Our Hostages Of Face the Fire of Death   https://johnfredericksradio.libsyn.com/

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This week's episode comes selected by one of our sponsor tier patrons over at our Patreon! The 2017 festival season brought us Chappaquiddick, director John Curran's recounting of the titular incident where Senator Ted Kennedy was responsible in the accidental death of party secretary Mary Jo Kopechne. With Jason Clarke as Kennedy and Kate Mara … Continue reading "317 – Chappaquiddick (Patreon Selects)"

With the election of Republican Donald Trump as the 47th President, a spotlight has be put on Illinois with its future with Democratic Governor J.B Pritzker. WBBM Political Editor Craig Dellimore is joined by IL Senate Republican Leader John Curran to discuss Governor Pritzker's decisions, whether it is a good time to be a republican in IL with the budget problems & more.

Senate Republican Leader John Curran joined Springfield's Morning News Tuesday to preview the fall veto session and how Republicans can be relevant in Springfield.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

All aboard the Big Bus! One of the most moving experiences we've had in the city, the “Sunset Live Tour” by Big Bus Tours explores Chicago while the city's architecture, historical landmarks, and lake are draped in the velvety shade of golden hour.This tour takes tourists and locals on a 90-minute journey around the Chicago loop and surrounding neighborhoods. Atop their iconic red, double-decker buses, you'll see the city above even our CTA buses. We chat with John Curran, Senior Vice President & General Manager at Big Bus Tours, about the Sunset Live Tour and the company's traditional hop on & off experience. John shares some of the facts you'll learn on the tour, including that Lincoln Park used to be a huge cemetery and how there is a piece of burnt debris from the Great Chicago Fire you can visit. Highlights for us included driving down Lakeshore Drive with the wind in our hair and pulling over on Fullerton for a one of a kind view of the city.We end with rapid fire and learn John‘s favorite Chicago restauraunt/neighborhood, and he brings us to tears, describing the one person in the world he would want to take on a big bus tour.Sunset Live Tours run through October 19. They currently depart at 7:30 PM, but this time moves progressively earlier as the sun begins to set sooner.TICKETS/INFO: https://www.bigbustours.com/en/chicago/chicago-sunset-live-night-tour-ticketSOCIALS: https://www.instagram.com/bigbustours/?hl=en

Segment 1: Jane Oates, Senior Policy Advisor and recent President, WorkingNation, talks to Jon Hansen to break down today’s job report. What were the big takeaways from the data released today? Segment 2: John Curran, Senior Vice President & General Manager, Big Bus Tours, tells Jon about their bus tours around Chicago, how tourism in Chicago has […]

John Curran joins Caroline to read Christie's third novel, her first (sort of?) to appear as a green penguin. My new book, A Body Made of Glass: A History of Hypochondria, is out now. To find out more and get your copy, visit my website carolinecrampton.com/abodymadeofglass. Join the Shedunnit Book Club for two extra Shedunnit episodes a month plus access to the monthly reading discussions and community: shedunnitbookclub.com/join. A full list of titles in the Penguin series can be found at penguinfirsteditions.com. No major plot spoilers until you hear Caroline say we are "entering the spoiler zone", at 25:52. After that, expect full spoilers. Mentioned in this episode: — Murder on the Links by Agatha Christie — Agatha Christie's Secret Notebooks by John Curran — Murder in the Making by John Curran — The Big Four by Agatha Christie — Mystery of the Blue Train by Agatha Christie — The Murder of Roger Ackroyd by Agatha Christie — The Mysterious Affair at Styles by Agatha Christie — The Clocks by Agatha Christie — Third Girl by Agatha Christie — Hallowe'en Party by Agatha Christie — Seven Dials Mystery by Agatha Christie — An Autobiography by Agatha Christie — Sparkling Cyanide by Agatha Christie — Peril at End House by Agatha Christie — And Then There Were None by Agatha Christie — Crooked House by Agatha Christie — Poirot Investigates by Agatha Christie — The Secret Adversary by Agatha Christie — Murder on the Orient Express by Agatha Christie — The Man in the Brown Suit by Agatha Christie — The Mystery of the Yellow Room by Gaston Leroux — The Leavenworth Case by Anna Katharine Green — Why Didn't They Ask Evans? by Agatha Christie — Partners in Crime by Agatha Christie — Three Act Tragedy by Agatha Christie — The ABC Murders by Agatha Christie — Five Little Pigs by Agatha Christie — Dumb Witness by Agatha Christie — "How Does Your Garden Grow?" by Agatha Christie, collected in Poirot's Early Cases — "The Cornish Mystery" by Agatha Christie, collected in The Under Dog and Other Stories — The Hollow by Agatha Christie — The Unpleasantness at the Bellona Club by Dorothy L Sayers — The Thin Man by Dashiell Hammett — A Body Made of Glass by Caroline Crampton Related Shedunnit episodes: — The Unpleasantness at the Bellona Club (Green Penguin Book Club 1) — Death Under Par — Agatha the Adventuress NB: Links to Blackwell's are affiliate links, meaning that the podcast receives a small commission when you purchase a book there (the price remains the same for you). Blackwell's is a UK bookselling chain that ships internationally at no extra charge. To be the first to know about future developments with the podcast, sign up for the newsletter at shedunnitshow.com/newsletter. The podcast is on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram as @ShedunnitShow, and you can find it in all major podcast apps. Make sure you're subscribed so you don't miss the next episode. Click here to do that now in your app of choice. Find a full transcript of this episode at shedunnitshow.com/themurderonthelinkstranscript. Music by Audioblocks and Blue Dot Sessions. See shedunnitshow.com/musiccredits for more details. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Listen to this clip from Annie's conversation with Senator John Curran on the migrant crisis in Illinois.

In hour 2, Annie is joined by Tyrus to talk about squatters and DeSantis' new law against squatters. Later, Annie is joined by Senator John Curran who weighs in on the migrant crime in Illinois. They wrap up the hour discussing Trump's speech at Officer Diller's wake.

John Curran joins us to share his thoughts on the State of the State and budget address.

Office politics isn't something we choose to do – it's an inescapable part of working life. Our workplace rituals, friendships and the alliances we forge play a big part in how our careers pan out; so how can we make sure we're doing them right? Can we ever get ahead without our colleagues hating us? And why does it matter if we're late for meetings? Isabel Berwick is joined by John Curran, CEO and founder of organisational development consultancy JC & Associates, and FT deputy opinion editor, Miranda Green, to find out.Want more? Free links:Office politics is not optional: learn to play the game or you'll be its victimThe fraught politics of the office whiproundHow can I be more political and still be myself?Presented by Isabel Berwick, produced by Mischa Frankl-Duval, mixed by Simon Panayi. The executive producer is Manuela Saragosa. Cheryl Brumley is the FT's head of audio.Read a transcript of this episode on FT.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Illinois Senate Republican Leader, John Curran joins Megan talking about the op-ed that published this week saying that Gov. JB Pritzker has invited migrants to the state. 

Illinois Senate GOP Leader John Curran joins John Williams to talk about his Tribune Op-ed where he criticizes the way Governor Pritzker has handled the migrant crisis in Illinois.

Illinois Senate GOP Leader John Curran joins John Williams to talk about his Tribune Op-ed where he criticizes the way Governor Pritzker has handled the migrant crisis in Illinois.

Illinois Senate GOP Leader John Curran joins John Williams to talk about his Tribune Op-ed where he criticizes the way Governor Pritzker has handled the migrant crisis in Illinois.

John Curran joins Casey Scott and Dr. Matt Woolley to talk about how his experience with trying drugs and alcohol at an early age due to being heavily influenced by his father and older brother, as well as how his drug and alcohol use led him to be addicted to meth at 13 years old. John also opens up about being introduced to the prison system as a teenager, his struggles with being a parent suffering from addiction, and his attempts at staying sober while his world was spiraling down. Then John explains his mindset when he was at rock bottom and his attempt to end his life after trying to overdose on heroin.  Lastly, we dive into John’s recovery, the amazing work he’s doing with USARA, and what his recovery looks like now after years of addiction. Related Links: USARA: https://www.myusara.com/

Illinois Senate GOP Leader John Curran joins John Williams to talk about the end of cash bail and the steps he would like Illinois to adopt to close some of the gaps in the Pre-Trial Fairness Act. [audio https://serve.castfire.com/audio/4160360/4160360_2023-09-19-205200.128.mp3

Illinois Senate GOP Leader John Curran joins John Williams to talk about the end of cash bail and the steps he would like Illinois to adopt to close some of the gaps in the Pre-Trial Fairness Act. [audio https://serve.castfire.com/audio/4160360/4160360_2023-09-19-205200.128.mp3

Illinois Senate GOP Leader John Curran joins John Williams to talk about the end of cash bail and the steps he would like Illinois to adopt to close some of the gaps in the Pre-Trial Fairness Act. [audio https://serve.castfire.com/audio/4160360/4160360_2023-09-19-205200.128.mp3

Guest speaker, but familiar face, John Curran shares a message with us called Sharing what you Know!  Each of us can be intimidated with sharing our testimony or witnessing to other people about Jesus.  But your story matters, and God can use you to reach those around you, so do not keep silent and speak up to help those around you!  Enjoy the message!

After experience with a LiveView “anti-pattern”, Andy Glassman developed an “Async Pattern” for loading data into a LiveView. Andy shares the problem this helps solve and we discuss when it's a good fit. We also talk with Andy about the current state of “admin tools” in Elixir and he shares his feelings on the importance of building admin tools from the start in our projects. Show Notes online - http://podcast.thinkingelixir.com/160 (http://podcast.thinkingelixir.com/160) Elixir Community News - https://twitter.com/josevalim/status/1678411790361718786 (https://twitter.com/josevalim/status/1678411790361718786?utm_source=thinkingelixir&utm_medium=shownotes) – A new Livebook version should have been released with a new “Presentation View” feature - https://2023.elixirconf.com/presenters#speakers (https://2023.elixirconf.com/presenters#speakers?utm_source=thinkingelixir&utm_medium=shownotes) – List of speakers for ElixirConf US 2023 has been released along with their talk topics. - https://paraxial.io/blog/app-audit (https://paraxial.io/blog/app-audit?utm_source=thinkingelixir&utm_medium=shownotes) – Inspecting Elixir Dependencies at Runtime for Security - https://twitter.com/josevalim/status/1678536270664876033 (https://twitter.com/josevalim/status/1678536270664876033?utm_source=thinkingelixir&utm_medium=shownotes) – José Valim completed his live-coding work to load database results directly into Explorer dataframes with ADBC - https://github.com/elixir-explorer/explorer/pull/648 (https://github.com/elixir-explorer/explorer/pull/648?utm_source=thinkingelixir&utm_medium=shownotes) – ADBC work resulted in a PR - https://twitter.com/mitchhanberg/status/1676611642786820096 (https://twitter.com/mitchhanberg/status/1676611642786820096?utm_source=thinkingelixir&utm_medium=shownotes) – Mitch Hanberg announced the first public release of Next LS and an elixir-tools update. - https://www.elixir-tools.dev/news/introducing-next-ls-and-an-elixir-tools-update/ (https://www.elixir-tools.dev/news/introducing-next-ls-and-an-elixir-tools-update/?utm_source=thinkingelixir&utm_medium=shownotes) – To get started with Next LS, either install the “Elixir Tools” NeoVim extension or the “Elixir Tools” VSCode extension. - https://twitter.com/joao_lubien/status/1676983495476891648 (https://twitter.com/joao_lubien/status/1676983495476891648?utm_source=thinkingelixir&utm_medium=shownotes) – Lubien wrote a mix task to turn any Phoenix Site into a static site. - https://github.com/lubien/single-file-phoenix-static/blob/main/lib/mix/tasks/generate_static.ex (https://github.com/lubien/single-file-phoenix-static/blob/main/lib/mix/tasks/generate_static.ex?utm_source=thinkingelixir&utm_medium=shownotes) – Lubien's example mix task - https://tylerayoung.com/2023/07/08/hiring-elixir-devs/ (https://tylerayoung.com/2023/07/08/hiring-elixir-devs/?utm_source=thinkingelixir&utm_medium=shownotes) – Tyler Young wrote a blog post with tips for companies wanting to hire Elixir devs. - https://twitter.com/TylerAYoung/status/1677635466990874626 (https://twitter.com/TylerAYoung/status/1677635466990874626?utm_source=thinkingelixir&utm_medium=shownotes) – Tyler's Twitter thread - https://johnelmlabs.com/posts/magic-link-auth/ (https://johnelmlabs.com/posts/magic-link-auth/?utm_source=thinkingelixir&utm_medium=shownotes) – John Curran wrote up a nice guide for how to build the “magic link” feature into mix gen.auth generated code - https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10664-023-10343-6 (https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10664-023-10343-6?utm_source=thinkingelixir&utm_medium=shownotes) – Paper about Elixir was submitted to the Empirical Software Engineering journal titled “Understanding code smells in Elixir functional language” - https://twitter.com/peregrine/status/1676984142251081728 (https://twitter.com/peregrine/status/1676984142251081728?utm_source=thinkingelixir&utm_medium=shownotes) – Jason Stiebs wrote a post about how “Elixir Docs are Built Different” - https://fly.io/phoenix-files/elixir-docs-are-built-different/ (https://fly.io/phoenix-files/elixir-docs-are-built-different/?utm_source=thinkingelixir&utm_medium=shownotes) – Article that guides people on using the Elixir docs. Do you have some Elixir news to share? Tell us at @ThinkingElixir (https://twitter.com/ThinkingElixir) or email at show@thinkingelixir.com (mailto:show@thinkingelixir.com) Discussion Resources - https://blog.andyglassman.com/2023/06/phoenix-liveview-async-assign-pattern.html (https://blog.andyglassman.com/2023/06/phoenix-liveview-async-assign-pattern.html?utm_source=thinkingelixir&utm_medium=shownotes) – Phoenix Live View - Async Assigns - https://blog.andyglassman.com/2022/08/write-admin-tools-from-day-one.html (https://blog.andyglassman.com/2022/08/write-admin-tools-from-day-one.html?utm_source=thinkingelixir&utm_medium=shownotes) – Write Admin Tools From Day One - https://sway.dm/info/ (https://sway.dm/info/?utm_source=thinkingelixir&utm_medium=shownotes) - https://www.empex.co/new-york (https://www.empex.co/new-york?utm_source=thinkingelixir&utm_medium=shownotes) - https://github.com/aesmail/kaffy (https://github.com/aesmail/kaffy?utm_source=thinkingelixir&utm_medium=shownotes) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3c9kMmxeSA0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3c9kMmxeSA0?utm_source=thinkingelixir&utm_medium=shownotes) – Andy Glassman - Write Admin Tools from Day One (EMPEX) - https://github.com/pragdave/earmark (https://github.com/pragdave/earmark?utm_source=thinkingelixir&utm_medium=shownotes) - https://activeadmin.info/ (https://activeadmin.info/?utm_source=thinkingelixir&utm_medium=shownotes) - https://github.com/ash-project/ash_admin (https://github.com/ash-project/ash_admin?utm_source=thinkingelixir&utm_medium=shownotes) - https://www.postman.com/collection/ (https://www.postman.com/collection/?utm_source=thinkingelixir&utm_medium=shownotes) Guest Information - https://twitter.com/a_glassman (https://twitter.com/a_glassman?utm_source=thinkingelixir&utm_medium=shownotes) – on Twitter - https://github.com/aglassman/ (https://github.com/aglassman/?utm_source=thinkingelixir&utm_medium=shownotes) – on Github - https://blog.andyglassman.com/ (https://blog.andyglassman.com/?utm_source=thinkingelixir&utm_medium=shownotes) – Blog Find us online - Message the show - @ThinkingElixir (https://twitter.com/ThinkingElixir) - Message the show on Fediverse - @ThinkingElixir@genserver.social (https://genserver.social/ThinkingElixir) - Email the show - show@thinkingelixir.com (mailto:show@thinkingelixir.com) - Mark Ericksen - @brainlid (https://twitter.com/brainlid) - Mark Ericksen on Fediverse - @brainlid@genserver.social (https://genserver.social/brainlid) - David Bernheisel - @bernheisel (https://twitter.com/bernheisel) - David Bernheisel on Fediverse - @dbern@genserver.social (https://genserver.social/dbern) - Cade Ward - @cadebward (https://twitter.com/cadebward) - Cade Ward on Fediverse - @cadebward@genserver.social (https://genserver.social/cadebward)

Hear how anthropology helps you see your business through a fresh lens It was truly a privilege and a pleasure to interview Dr. John Curran on our podcast. We met by way of LinkedIn, and I knew I had to share his story. Dr. Curran is one of the pioneers of organizational anthropology. Now remember, I branded myself when I launched my business as a corporate anthropologist who helps companies change. At the time, I didn't realize there weren't any corporate anthropologists. I also quickly learned that people engaged me because they really needed to change, but they didn't know what I did, or why anthropology could be of value to their organization's strategy or business model or culture. Along the way, they learned, and then they began to see their business through fresh eyes. You will too. There is so much to learn from this brilliant anthropologist and thought leader. Enjoy, and please share. Watch and listen to our conversation here What is organizational anthropology? And how does it apply to organizations? Well, today you will learn. My guest Dr. John Curran combines his expertise in the social sciences and group dynamics with process consulting and executive and team coaching. We both share the same deep belief that anthropology can open doors for people to “see, feel and think” in new ways, in his case—as this relates to products and customer experiences. You will enjoy listening to us compare notes on our experiences, and how hard it is for people to actually see the same thing, even when they are standing next to each other. Anthropology's theory, method and tools are designed to help us step back and realize that there is no reality, only an illusion that we call our reality. It is through the stories we share, like the ones Dr. Curran discusses, that we can capture the minds and lives of others and help them change, hopefully for the better. To connect with Dr. Curran, you can find him on LinkedIn, Twitter, his website, JC & Associates, or send him an email at john@jcassociateslondon.com. To learn more about the power of anthropology in business Blog: Will You Adapt Or Die? How Cultural Anthropology Can Transform Your Business Strategy Podcast: Gillian Tett—Why Can A Little Anthropology Help You And Your Business Grow? Podcast: Rita Denny—Maybe You Need Anthropology To See Yourself In New Ways Additional resources for you My two award-winning books: Rethink: Smashing The Myths of Women in Business and On the Brink: A Fresh Lens to Take Your Business to New Heights Our website: Simon Associates Management Consultants Read the transcript of our podcast here Andi Simon: Welcome to On the Brink With Andi Simon. Hi, I'm Andi Simon. And as you know, when you come to listen to us, I'm your host and your guide. My job is to get you off the brink. What I want you to do is see things through a fresh lens. I want you to see, feel and think about it in new ways so that you can soar again. Often people come to us, our clients, or the clients in my book, On the Brink, come to us stuck or stalled. They couldn't see what was all around them. Individuals do the same as we coach them. The challenge is how can a little anthropology help you see yourself and your business through a fresh lens. I'm so honored today to have with us for an interview that I just think is so remarkable is Dr. John Curran. Let me tell you a little bit about why I'm so excited and then you will be as well. Listen carefully. Dr. Curran is one of the pioneers of organizational anthropology. Now remember, I named myself when I launched my business as a corporate anthropologist who helps companies change. At the time, I didn't realize that there weren't any corporate anthropologists, much less that people bought me because they really needed to change. What I did, they had no idea. So what I want you to listen to us talk about today is, what is anthropology and how does it apply to organizations. Dr. Curran combines his expertise in the social sciences and group dynamics, with process consulting, systemic executive and team coaching. See, we both sort of share the same kind of thing, and we research and work with senior leaders and their teams to develop dynamic collaboration for organizational cultures that connect their values with those of their employees and wider stakeholders. In short, John and I share a common world where we want to bring them the methods and tools of anthropology and that theory into organizations to help you do things better. And humans are complicated critters. They hire me to help them change and then put me in the closet, lock the door, please don't come out, “I hate change.” So it's really interesting. So a little bit more. Dr. Curran holds a PhD in social anthropology, formal training in organizational process consulting, executive coaching, systemic team coaching, a whole lot of stuff. He's an associate consultant at the Tavistock Institute of Human Relations, which I hope you will talk a little bit about. He's the owner of JC and Associates and a visiting scholar at the Royal College of Art in design anthropology. Now that we have so much good stuff to talk about today, it's going to be such fun. His clients have included Coca Cola, Hallmark, Novo Nordisk, now J&J. Oh, a lot of the top companies and everybody else who wants to come and hear him talk. John, thank you for joining me. It's been a pleasure to meet you. John Curran: Oh, it's absolutely wonderful to be on your podcast. And it's one of my go-to podcasts. I learn from it all the time as well. Andi Simon: Wonderful, then I will make sure that as I'm recording and bringing my guests that I'm your audience, it is interesting. John had a great article on how meetings are held. And I'll get to that toward the end. We all are frustrated within ineffectual, dysfunctional meetings. And he said, just look at the roles people are playing and how they're doing it. But let's talk about you. What has your journey been? Share with us? John Curran: Okay, it's actually a privilege to share because you don't really think about your journey much. And I knew you were going to ask me that question. So I did a little bit of thinking. And I guess I came into anthropology from a kind of indirect way. I think I became interested in culture, unknowingly. And my first ever real job was when I was playing, when I was 17, or 18. But my real job was probably when I was 20 years old. I failed all my exams at school, I was an undiagnosed dyslexic. So this idea of failing, it was, in that sense, you learned actually that you have to look in between the lines to survive. You have to hustle in a way, right? So what I did was, I got a job as a keynote or domestic staff at a data center for the homeless in central London in Victoria. And it was run by Catholic Irish nuns. I was actually working with a homeless guy. And it was kind of fun. Then I started really taking on board the dynamics of what's actually going on in France. It was a great kind of experience and journey. And in my early 20s, I started going to night school again and kind of got a diagnosis of dyslexia and got confidence back in me. And it was then that I kind of realized, well, I'm not going to be able to do statistics, I need something that I can use my brain and my creativity, and this thing called anthropology emerged. And I remember reading quickly an introduction, you know, first few pages and shutting it, going, Right, that's me, I've got it going. So I was very lucky. I went from Glasgow to the London School of Economics, which was the kind of founder of traditional British anthropology. And learned about Malinovski and all those great names. And it was while doing my undergrad that I started working to make a little bit of money as a care assistant on psychiatric wards in hospitals and psychiatric hospitals. And it was then I realized that there's my PhD, I'm going to do a PhD, I'm going to do it on the culture of psychiatric hospitals. And that's it. So I spent two years being a member of staff and actually working the shifts as the ultimate participant observation for two years, and understanding power dynamics between the different sections, all the way from the domestic staff, all the way up to the consultant psychiatrists and the policymakers, and how that was played out and fluid and unpredictable on a daily basis. So it was very much looking at the microcosms or the micro aspects of everyday culture, but making bigger theories around how policy and ideology and values and mission statements and actually how they actually do work out. So that was my kind of journey. I got my PhD and, and then it kind of developed from there. While I was writing my PhD, I got approached by Microsoft. This was completely outside my area. If I wanted to understand how people use mobile phones. That kind of led me for a few years into the world of innovation and the world of design and market research and advertising and branding. But I was always more interested in the aspects of organizational culture and group dynamics. And that's where I sit now. Andi Simon: Don't you love it? I'm going to share just a smidgen of my own background. And you'll know why, John, and I feel like we're part of the same tribe, because I discovered anthropology as an undergraduate. And I went, Oh that's me, just like you did. It was like an epiphany. And then I went to Columbia to get my last 18 credits in anthropology. I didn't have to transfer. I went to Penn State, and it was just the depths of Conrad Arensberg and Marvin Magadh. And still, I mean, Ernestine Friedl became my mentor. And it was like, how could you be the best in the world in a field that I just sort of became a religious believer in? I wasn't even sure what I was going to do with it. But it sort of was who I was, as opposed to what I was going to do. When I met my husband 56 years ago, he said, What do you want to be now that you've grown up? I said, Well, I can either be an attorney or an anthropologist. He said, be an anthropologist. He also said, I'll be here for you, which he is, but it was one of those supports. And I had no idea what it was going to be. But it's served us well, hasn't it? Wow. John Curran: Yeah. I really like what you said there about how it kind of becomes part of you. So you don't do anthropology for a specific career, right? You know, that's a no-no. And it made me think about when I was doing my PhD at Goldsmiths University, which is part of London University. I had to do some seminar teaching for young undergrads. And what I would do, I'd get them to spend a week, and they would have to go and travel on London buses, you know, the red double decker bus, but they would have to spend half the week only going on the top deck. And then the second half will be going on the bottom deck. Look at the cultural differences of the two, so you could go into symbolism of gender or masculinity upstairs. And looking at binary oppositions and I remember the feedback that they gave me was, We can't go anywhere now without looking at something logically. That's right. Andi Simon: And it only took that moment that you couldn't bring them to Samoa, but you could put them on a bus, normal, comfortable, and give them a job to look at it through a fresh lens to see what was actually going on. And that's when you say to people: humans are meaning makers, nothing exists out of context. And so the upstairs and the downstairs are two different contexts, same thing going on in a whole different fashion. You have had so many great experiences. Talk a little bit about how you got your PhD. John Curran: Both fed each other. When I was working mainly in innovation, I would be wanting to add agencies to help the planners design and think in a certain way, anthropologically. The planners in advertising were very much anthropologists to a certain extent. But also when you think about innovation around medicine, or, you know, diabetes, the anthropologist can go and read it, understand how people live, are living out their experiences, how they might take, for example, a medical device that they use in their everyday lives, but how in their everyday lives, it has a different symbolic meaning. It isn't just, it doesn't just have the use value of say, administering insulin, it isn't functional, it's also part of the body. And when you bring in these anthropological theories and observations, you were able to work that back into the organization, like a medical device company, or pharmaceutical company, and challenge how they perceive the products that they they use as a means of being able to design for the person, designing for culture, designing for emotions, and not designing just for function. Andi Simon: You know, it's interesting, I was at an EPA conference a number of years ago, and one of the panelists said: “Why can't we get our clients, the CEOs or the C-suite, to believe the research that we have done for them? They immediately deleted me. And I spent 10 years as an academic and then 20 years as an executive, helping banks and health care.” And what went through my mind, and I said it gently, was: They don't trust what you brought back because you haven't ever run the business. You're helping them see something from the outside. You saw it, but they don't trust that you really know what you're saying. And if they had taken them with you, maybe they would understand what your experiences are to people? Do they really understand what you brought back to them? Do they apply it? How do we communicate? Because this is all about transformation. John Curran: Exactly. Well, I think actually, Novo Nordisk, are a unique example, because they're the ones who have got fantastic anthropologists internally. They've done some great work around ethnography, it's very much part of their DNA. So probably a lot of their leaders will be going into the field as well or do go into the field. But if you think that by and large around companies, yes, this idea of when you do take execs into the field, it's life changing. They all of a sudden realize that their products or the services that they're offering customers, there's a whole different world. People appropriate brands, products, to fit into their lives, not the other way around. So then you've got another level, and then you start working well. If you're looking at the values of your company, how do they align with the values of your employees, but also your customers, and then all of a sudden, you've got these kinds of concentric circles moving out and out, and then all of a sudden, you've got the holistic picture, and you can start thinking holistically with execs. There's also another problem, which has been around for many years, but this idea of risk. And when you're coming back with just stories and insights based on theory, it's not an Excel spreadsheet, it hasn't got statistics, especially in a digitalized age with the world coming together. I think that's probably less of a stigma nowadays. But, it definitely was a massive barrier. How do we quantify this? You know, we could do a survey of 10,000 people globally, but you're going to only visit 20 people. I mean, that doesn't weigh up, right? So you have to, there has to be a lot of education, a lot of even training for execs. And the final area, which now does very much still exist, where this is what really put me back into the world of food dynamics and organizational culture, was silence. So if you're thinking that you're doing the best, most amazing piece of anthropological research around consumers, and you run the best workshop, and you've got whatever it is, everything's on, it's perfect. You're not taking into account that the people who you are serving are coming potentially from cultures, organizational cultures, that are siloed. So if you have engineers in the room, and you have marketeers in the room, and you have sales in the room, they are three different tribes. Different ways of thinking about what they need. They also need to protect their expertise, their identity, their subcultures, right? So if you enter this anthropology and we're going to revolutionize it, we're going to shock you, they will look at you and they will say, Oh, we can project back on to you, we're not playing ball. So then you have to work in a different way with them. And you have to respect the silo, to a certain extent. Andi Simon: The silo is there, and it's not going away. And if you've hired people because they're good engineers and good marketers and finance. You know, I was a bank executive. As you step back and you look, having conversations, even lunches with people, it was like, one was speaking Roman Latin, and the other was talking Greek and the words didn't have any meaning for the other, and you needed a dialectician who could move from one to the other and make it real. And as you try and make them now include the customer, who is a customer? And is it the buyer, or is it the user? And it's a complicated world. And having said that, though, corporate anthropologists, anthropologists in general, have had a far better time of it recently, over the last I'll say, five years or so, then earlier because we were academic misfits. I tried to hire someone from a university for a client and they said, no, we're just training them to be academicians. I said, wouldn't it be nice if they could help a business do better with their academic expertise? It was most interesting. But I do think that business, the fact that Intel had anthropologist Genevieve Bell there, Microsoft has them, the government uses them. I think there's a growing awareness that we don't know what we don't know. And design thinking has made ethnographic work extremely important, but it goes out and starts by observing. And you're doing design work as well. What kind of work are you doing with the design anthropology? John Curran: But the sort of design anthropology came about, again, out of the innovation, where I would be looking, and I'd be always very interested in. We could look at products and how people actually use products, as I've mentioned previously, but what I was, and I'm still very interested in, is the workplace. Some people say, anthropologists are designers by default. To some extent maybe. I think there was a lovely crossover there. Traditional anthropologists aren't really coming to a conclusion. They're leaving things hanging, where the designer needs to finish something. But what I will be doing is talking to the world of design and architecture as well, around what does a workplace actually mean and now the unknown, that we've got differences with hybrid work and post COVID. But you know, what's the symbolic goodness of space? And a wonderful example, actually, was when I wasn't a part of this. But when Lego started up their new headquarters in London, they used to have signs, which were little cardboard cutouts of VW camper vans, saying, Don't park here. Meaning, you must be on the move, don't make a place permanent in the workplace. Don't eat your food there. And people started rebelling against that. That kind of thinking. Well, actually, if I want to eat my granola at my desk, I should be allowed. I should be allowed to do it. And that's a really brilliant sign that you can think that you can design, affection that's going to enhance collaboration and well being and all these things. But if you've got a management system that is dysfunctional, it doesn't matter what type of sofa, how many table tennis tables you've got, or how much free beer is on Fridays, it doesn't work. So you have to actually think about what you're designing for the unconscious as much as the actual function as well. So that's what I try and put in the times. That's what I do. I think that's a key thing of anthropology: to take what is given as a norm…I use kind of a brutal thing…you get a sledgehammer and you dismantle that normality. And that's what the anthropologist does. You don't take anything for granted. And you're looking in between the lines. It's a classic thing if you read Shakespeare, or Hemingway, or you read, you know, Alice Walker, you're not reading the words, you're not reading the sentences, you are feeling an emotion and you're interpreting what's going on. So that's why the two of us could read the same novel and have a different interpretation. And that's anthropology as a kind of ethnographic text, ethnographic writing. It's interpretive. It's extremely powerful. Andi Simon: It is and it's also the secret of our success, isn't it. And so this is so interesting. So I made a note as I was thinking about this because Lego had an idea that really, maybe never they asked their folks about it, I'll make it up. And it didn't work the way they had anticipated. It always is interesting to me how a group of people, call it the senior folks, have an idea. And they forget that the folks who they are giving it to have no idea what they're telling them, what the story is, what the expectations are. They're not engaged in the design, and somehow they think it is going to percolate down. It doesn't work that way. And humans have stories in their minds. And we've learned from the neurosciences and cognitive sciences that you live your story. And you're usually the hero in it. So I noticed that you also have a background in the brain stuff. How do you weave together the neurosciences with the anthropology, because I tell people, you live your life with the heart, and the eyes, and then your brain gets in it. And you have a story here. It's trying to figure out what this is all seeing. What are your thoughts? John Curran: Well, that's a good point. And I think probably, I'm probably more with the brain around the kind of psychoanalysis, so that the neuroscience, of course, comes into that also, comes into culture. But I've always had an interest in the unconscious. You know, this is leaning on the likes of Freud, Klein, Jung, but then much more into groups, as well. So Winnicott and Dion as well, who I'm very, very influenced by and what I find really powerful. And this is especially around group dynamics as well, but not just with dynamics in organizations, but in life, is that coming together of the anthropology, with the psychoanalysis or what's been called systems psychodynamics, which is how the individual becomes part of a group, and how these kind of games and interactions that are largely based on the unconscious. Okay, so this is a really powerful thing. And mentally, Klein was very influenced, or influenced a lot by that way of thinking. So we've heard these terms: projection, transference, countertransference. And if you bring that into also the world of anthropology and vice versa, you can be looking at team dynamics in an organization. And I'm looking at the unconscious structuring of rituals of events, rituals of change, which was of power and authority. Those are the three ones I claim or the big metal ones, the other ones going on. Now, within those rituals can be things around gender, around misogyny, all these everyday issues are being played out as well. What we wear, the clothes where people sit around the table, all these types of things are unconscious, often unconscious, but they are forming cultural stories. The anthropologist Michael Jackson always talked about stories being the blood vessels of culture. We can't have culture unless we have stories. Those stories are communicated often unconsciously. And that's why I mean, I've trained, I've done the training, not the seven years training, but in group psychoanalysis. So that's also rarely the group itself becoming part of the culture. Andi Simon: Don't lose that thought. Let's emphasize it a little bit. Because this functional group is at war with itself because each of the people in the group haven't come to terms with a shared story. Each is carrying their own agendas. We hear those words, but there's something deeper than tactical practical stuff going on here. They really see themselves in a different fashion and that is very powerful. Now, how do we build there for better groups? Thoughts? John Curran: Yeah, well, I think that's a really good question. I like, in a way, starting with this idea that a group or let's say, a team, and we're talking about organizations, can always have an element of this functionality to it. Because that's kind of what I'm entering into, and that's what I expect. And that's kind of okay to a certain extent, but a group needs to focus on what we call the primary task. That's actually what we are trying to deliver. And then, if you've got silos within the group or between teams, that becomes harder, and then there might be defense mechanisms being played out or anxiety then creeps up beyond the psychoanalyst who kind of invented this spoke about the basic assumptions in groups. And that's often when things run on dependency, in other words, we'll do whatever the leader says, or we all admire that. Or, we're not gonna really have collaboration, or you have the things of fight or flight. We've heard this, but you know, I don't want that change to happen, it's going to threaten me and affect my professional identity. So, along the journey, you can have all these kinds of stakes in the ground of this functionality. And the way that I work with them and I'm passionate about this is, I'm kind of trying to sell it. It sounds like I'm selling myself here as the external consultant. But it's trying to empower teams to have this element of being reflective of themselves. And when I talk about empathy, I don't talk about empathy as a nice kind of word, how it's being played out. I don't even talk about empathy, walking in the shoes of other people. I think the first real thing about empathy is being empathetic to yourself, which means having the ability to challenge yourself and be honest about yourself. So if we were in a meeting, and I felt that you were being defensive or trying to derail my idea, I might not tell you that, but I walk away feeling something in my stomach. And the next meeting, I'm sure I'll bring that back into the meeting. So how are we about coaching? It's about the term psychological safety. How do you create psychological safety where challenges can happen? And there's one of my colleagues at the Tavistock Institute. Camilla, she talks about creating an environment that is psychologically safe enough, so not psychological safety, but psychological safe enough. What's beautiful about that concept is it's allowing for this functionality. It's allowing the people in a team to have different levels of what safety is. If you're a woman, if you're from a different race, if you're white, male, heterosexual, these different personas, or cultural toolkits you're bringing into that space. So psychologically safe enough. Think about creating a culture of reflection. Andi Simon: And the challenge is really important. Not easy. Do you have a case study where this has worked? Or you're working on one that you can share? John Curran: Yeah, I think that's great. I'm doing a lot of work with executive teams and they are highly pressured. They are highly pressured, they're all coming out of post COVID up there, and not just the exec teams, but the middle management and below are all feeling exhausted. Yet they need to think about the primary tasks. They all need to be facing the same way. A lot of the exec teams and senior management are having to create what this idea of hybrid working means. No one knows what it means, no one knows what the future will be right now, either. So what I will be experiencing is that there are tensions, but those tensions will not be exposed through team coaching or facilitation. There's a process that I use: we do qualitative, kind of semi structured ethnographic interviews with all the key people individually, and I'll bring that into the space. And then I reflect back what people have told me in confidential, but what people have told me, and then everyone feels uncomfortable, because they're experiencing uncomfortableness, or what they're experiencing is what they realize deep down is the truth. And then I've kind of got them, I've got them contained, and I could say, if this is you what you told me, now how are we going to work with it? And I can be the object of projection, so they can go, You're wrong, you're wrong, you're wrong. And this is great, carry on, you know, it's no problem here. But I'm also in that space, I'm being the anthropologist. I'm seeing the workshop setting as an ethnographic space. So I'm also decoding what rituals are happening, the fences and all that, even the uses of cultural artifacts, the flip chart, the who's gonna get up and do these…it's all data. Andi Simon: But it's also very challenging, isn't it? John Curran: It's not easy to do and you are dealing with human beings. And this is where it's very different from being an anthropologist in the world of say, innovation, where you go in and you're experiencing sensitive stuff, but you go out. I'm containing a group. And it can fly off the handle at any moment. And you could say something wrong that could spark. So it's challenging. And it's also draining. And you need the supervision structure below you. And that's how I use a lot of supervision, as though it's the therapeutic space. Andi Simon: I can keep going because I'm fascinated. Before we do wrap up, though, share a little bit about that newsletter with the article about meetings. I think it's practical, but very insightful about that. I'll give you the context. When I got into health care, 1520 people would come together routinely for a meeting. I was an ex-banker and an anthropologist, and I was sitting there trying to figure out, what we are doing here? There was no agenda, there was no takeaway. I didn't have any idea of my purpose, and nobody bothered to tell me either. But we met and when I dug into it, they said, Oh, that's what we do. Okay, we come together, it doesn't really tell me about meetings. John Curran: But I gave a talk and it's online. Actually, I'll send you the link as well, at the Tavistock Institute of Human Relations, and the Tavistock invented, what we know is organizational development. In 1947, I think so. And it creates this idea at the time that was being born out of the Second World War, about having to understand how teams work in the military. But coming out of the war, it was looking at issues around the coming together of the social sciences with psychoanalysis to understand how organizations work. So anthropology was there pretty much from day one. This is something that we need to really write about in the history of anthropology. But it's looking at the meetings. I gave the talk, and I hear so much about having too many meetings. And this was the name of the title in lots of the business journals, and the newspapers, the financials, lots of things about meetings as destroying everything, especially online and zoom. And I came, I flipped it as all anthropologists should do, is flip something and say, maybe this term “we have too many meetings here” is a defense mechanism. And what I started to do is look at the ethnography of meetings, and meetings that I sat in to realize, actually, they are communicating lots of other things beyond the primary tasks. So meetings should be there to make a decision or sharing information or resolving conflict. These are meetings traditionally before, but actually, I saw that actually, people would use meetings as a means of checking each other out. What are you wearing? But meetings are also there as a means of trying to drive change, but there is conflict that isn't being dealt with that exists within the meeting. So therefore, it's too fearful, we won't come to a decision. Okay, so we'll have another meeting. And we'll have another meeting. So meeting becomes an avoidance of conflict. So I was trying to show actually that meetings have so many different dynamics to them. And what I introduced was a model that I've created or tool called the Culture Empathy Map. And it's a step process that people, either consultants or anthropologists, can use, or it's something I train leaders to use. And that's how you decode the rituals by being the anthropologist in the meeting. What's actually going on? And how do I know to prepare for that? But also, how do I know to reflect afterwards, based on that? So it's called the Culture Empathy Map. And it's a tool not just for meetings, but also for workshops and group dynamics within organizations. Andi Simon: You're almost trying to make them see the world of this as an anthropologist might. And you need to step out and look in as if you weren't part of the meeting if you're going to really understand what's going on there. If not, you're going to be a participant in that game, as opposed to an observer of that game. As I said, good leaders sit and listen and watch for a while before they participate. Because you really don't know what's coming at you until you watch. But if you're ready to respond to everything, and get involved in it, then you really are going to be part of the problem, not necessarily a leader to take you out of it. It's an interesting thing. John Curran: That's so good about the idea of listening as well. Leaders need to listen to learn, not listen to respond. Once you've done the learning and you've done the reflection, then he will respond. That's a really good point. Andi Simon: Well, even as I'm listening to you and myself, the tendency on my part is to try and take what we're talking about and put it in the context of things that I've experienced. I'm trying to make it relevant in some fashion, reflecting, perhaps, but I'm going to urge our listeners to listen carefully to John telling you whether it's in a meeting or in your business or in your family life. Before you jump in and answer, wait, listen, because what you think you heard isn't really what they said nor what they meant. And so consequently, you have a lot of interesting things going on here in terms of the dynamics. So on that note, I do have to wrap us up, because as much as I love talking to you, it's such a pleasure. It's truly an honor, I'm having such fun. Thank you for joining me today. John Curran: Thank you so much. It's wonderful. It's an honor to be on your podcast. Andi Simon: John, if they want to reach you, where will they do that? John Curran: I'm on Twitter, at Dr. J. Curran, LinkedIn, I'm quite active on LinkedIn as well. My website is JC and Associates. And I've got a podcast called The Decoding Culture podcast. And there's also a newsletter called Decoding Culture. So those are the places you can find me, I'm out there somewhere. Andi Simon: I'll make sure that's all on the blogs, and people can find you even on the video at the back of it. Thank you for joining me today. For our listeners. I know you enjoy our conversations. Keep sending us great people to talk to. I found John on LinkedIn or a post of some kind. I went, Ah, let's do it. And he was so kind to come and join us. So now remember, my books are available at Amazon. Rethink: Smashing The Myths of Women in Business. And it's about 11 women who did just that talk about change. And On the Brink: A Fresh Lens to Take Your Business to New Heights with a little anthropology to help you see, feel and think in new ways is why On the Brink with Andi Simon emerged as a podcast. And I love doing this. So send me your thoughts at info@Andisimon.com and we'll get back to you right away. My new book comes out on September 26 and is called Women Mean Business. And it's the wisdom of 101 trailblazing women who are sharing with you their insights. They very much want to help elevate other women. And I must tell you as you read their wisdom, you go, “This is like a bible of all my best stuff.” None of them were profit driven. They want to help others. They build networks. Very interesting, culturally, listening to women from different industries talk about the lessons learned and how to share it. So I'll send you a copy as soon as it comes out. Take care now. Thank you all. Thanks for coming. Stay well, stay safe. Remember, turn your observations into innovations.

Illinois Senate GOP Leader John Curran joins John Williams to talk about the Illinois state budget that passed this week. Senator Curran highlights the budget's increase in education funding and the 5% raise for state legislators and voices concerns over the budget’s 11 billion dollar increase in spending.

Illinois Senate GOP Leader John Curran joins John Williams to talk about the Illinois state budget that passed this week. Senator Curran highlights the budget's increase in education funding and the 5% raise for state legislators and voices concerns over the budget’s 11 billion dollar increase in spending.

This week Johnboy provides four Irish lads that are all a bit off! The thug who used his head to break down doors! The one eyed man who successfully snuck into political and sporting events! The unofficial prison tour guide and "jail groupie!" The man who attacked cops and wrote poetry about it! Featuring Werner Squirts-Hog!!!!

On this day in the mob, September 6th 2003 Marcello Marshall Caifano passed away. The Chicago and Las Vegas gangster was involved in numerous high profile mafia hits. He was the protege of Paul The Waiter Rica and Sam MoMo Giancana. Follow your host John Curran as he takes you through the life and crimes of one of Chicagos most notorious hitmen. 

Born on This Day In The Mob September 3rd 1929 is Winter Hill Boston Gang leader Whitey Bulger. Bulger was the most ruthless and cunning gangsters in the history of Boston.  He committed dozens of murder while under the protection of the FBI! He was a long time secret informer diming out his underworld rivals to enhance his own power. He would eventually go on the run for 16 years before being caught and sent to prison where he suffered a brutal death.  Follow your host John Curran as he takes your through the life story of a gangster so wild even hollywood couldnt have wrote it better. 

On This Day in The Mob: August 17th 1981, Bonanno Crime Family Caporegime Dominick Sonny Black Napolitano is slain gangland style. One of the most powerful captains in the mafia at that time, will  forever be known as the man who brought Donnie Brasco aka Special Agent Joe Pistone into La Cosa Nostra. Sonny Black had one of the most gangster deaths in the history of the Mafia. Listen as host John Curran takes you through the rise and fall of one of the most powerful mafia captains in the history of the Bonanno crime family. 

On This Day In The Mob: August 16th 2018, Genovese crime family associate Fat Sal Delligatti is sentenced to 25 for conspiracy to commit murder in the aid of racketeering! In this episode John Curran your host takes you through the wild story of Fat Sal hiring gang members of the infamous Crips to murder a mob associate! How the hapless shooters were caught and the fate of Fat Sal!

On this day in the mob, August 15th 2018, Bonanno crime family caporegime, Ronald Giallanzo is sentenced to 14 years in prison for racketeering and extortion. Ronnie G was a feared and violent capo and in this episode your host John Curran takes your through his time terrorizing his territory of howard beach queens.

On This Day In The Mob: August 11th 1972, The infamous Neapolitan Noodle Murders took place. 50 years to the day two innocent men were gunned down in a horrible case of mistaken identity.  They were caught up in the tail end of the bloody and lengthy Gallo wars. Listen to todays episode to hear your host John Curran tell the story of one of the biggest Mafia f*ck ups of all time. 

On this day in the mob, August 9th 1939, Future Philadelphia mafia boss Joseph 'Uncle Joe' Ligambi is born. Your host John Curran delves into the life of the man many credit with bringing the Philadelphia La Cosa Nostra back from the dead.  Uncle Joe took a broken and warring family and turned it into a prosperous criminal enterprise.

On this day in the Mob, August 8th 2005, John Gotti Jr. is set to begin trial for Racketeering including the kidnapping and attempted murder of New York City radio host Curtis Sliwa. John Curran your host takes you through the wild events of this case as well as the testimony of 3 former Gambino soldiers including Mikey Scars DeLeonardo. We discuss the other  violent crimes Junior and his defendant's were charged with as well. 

On this day in the mob, August 5th 1993, The Philly Mafia is in all out war. The two Ciancaglini brothers, Joey and Mikey are on opposite sides of the war. On this very day 29 years ago a bloody broad daylight shootout would end with one of the brothers Chang dead. Follow host John Curran as he takes you through the events of one of the wildest moments in the Philadelphia Mob Civil War.--- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/this-day-in-the-mob/support

In todays episode of This Day in The Mob August 4th 1964, Colombo Mafia Captain and top echelon FBI informant, Greg Scarpa is dispatched by his FBI handlers to Mississippi to assist in recovering the bodies of 3 civil rights activists who were abducted by the local KKK. Your host John Curran, discusses how the man known as The Grim Reaper was able to extract certain information out of local klansmen that the FBI couldn't, eventually leading to the recovery of the bodies of the murdered activists. This may be our most wild episode to date so buckle up and enjoy the ride!--- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/this-day-in-the-mob/support

On this day in the mob, August 3rd 2015, the man known as the last true mob boss John "The Eagle" Riggi passed away. He served as the boss of the Decavalcante Crime Family in New Jersey for over 3 decades. John Curran your host discusses the interesting life and crimes of the gentleman gangster John Riggi.--- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/this-day-in-the-mob/support

Born on This Day In The Mob, July 31st, 1886 was creator of the five families and the founder of the modern day American Mafia, Salvatore Maranzano. On this episode host John Curran delves into the rise and fall of one of the sharpest minds in la cosa nostra. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/this-day-in-the-mob/support

On This Day In The Mob, July 30th 1975, the most influential and power labor leader in the country, James R. Hoffa disappears without a trace. 47 years later it is still the greatest unsolved mystery in American history. The headstrong and controversial union powerhouse, had numerous shady ties with organized crime. John Curran delves into Hoffa's connections with the Mafia as well as possible theories of his disappearance and murder. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/this-day-in-the-mob/support

On This Day In The Mob, July 28th 1980, John Favara, neighbor to notorious Gambino Crime Family Gangster John Gotti, disappears never to be seen again. Favara was the driver who accidentally hit and killed John's middle son Frankie at just 12 years old. Witnesses last saw Favara being beaten and thrown into a van and driven away. It would take years to find out the fate of John Favara. Listen to todays epsiode as John Curran your host, takes you through the event and the years following. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/this-day-in-the-mob/support