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In our latest recap of the Life Time Grand Prix series, we're covering Chequamegon, the punchy, 40 mile mountain bike race in Northern Wisconsin. This year's event saw new riders at the front of the pack and drama in the sprint finishes. Payson talks to Velo reporter Betsy Welch to break down the men's race and Alexy Vermeulen's win. They discuss the 14-man sprint to the finish, the relief of a 40-mile race in the middle of a season dominated by 100+ mile events, and look at the current rider standings. They also look back at Gravel Nationals and look ahead to Gravel Worlds.Ellen Campbell joins the show to provide a first-person account of the women's race. She talks about the crowded course, the contentious jockeying for position, and the riders who stood out. Payson also digs into some of the riders' power files to provide some data analysis, and we hear from listeners who competed in the race. Instagram: @theadventurestache
Matej Mohorič has built his reputation on his grit, determination and pioneering descents. He was pedaling in the super tuck on his way to winning the U23 World Championship in 2013... and later used a new innovation - the dropper post - to his first monument win, securing the 2022 Milan San-Remo title. His interview in the aftermath of his third Tour de France victory this year, united a peloton in admiration. Few had the ability to express the challenges Matej had faced in professional cycling but every single pro understood the feelings he expressed. In this conversation with Bobby and Jens we catch up with Matej shortly before his family holiday! Bobby and Jens is a Shocked Giraffe production for Velo. This episode was produced and edited by Mark Payne . Remember to follow Bobby and Jens on social media Facebook https://www.facebook.com/people/Bobby-and-Jens/100093419004559/ Threads: https://threads.net/@bobbyandjens YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdm7tkA_shHCsL0o1sV8biElMZd8-2y-g Twitter: https://twitter.com/bobbyandjens Get the Outside Watch app to stream films and series wherever you go: https://outside.watch/ios https://outside.watch/android Follow Outside Watch for the latest and greatest: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/outsidewatch/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/outsidewatch/ Get unlimited access to articles, courses, premium films, series & more with Outside+ The one subscription to fuel all your adventures: https://outside.watch/Plus
A vitória do norte-americano Sepp Kuss era o final mais feliz para a Vuelta a España 2023. Aclamado por todos, Kuss fez valer sua competência, somada com um pouco de sorte de coincidir com uma equipe Jumbo monumental e com uma oportunidade única para vestir a camisa roja em Madri. Neste episódio, os três gregários se reunem para dar números finais ao terceiro e derradeiro evento de três semanas da temporada. Esse ano, todas as grandes voltas foram vencidas pela Jumbo-Visma, feito inédito no ciclismo masculino. Claro que isso também será destaque. E o Velo d'Or? Se já era complicado antes, como fica a eleição dos melhores do ano sem a presença do Sepp Kuss entre os 10 nominados? Vamos falar também das outras provas da semana. Teve a primeira vitória arco-íris de Mathieu Van der Poel e muita briga entre os velocistas. Philipsen, Merlier...o clube das 10 vitórias no ano está crescendo. Será que cabe mais gente? E o calendário não para. Essa semana tem os Campeonatos Europeus de Estrada. Quem vestirá a bela camisa azul-estrelada? Fique ligado. O RADIO é apresentado por Session Brasil (@sessionbrasil). We Make you Faster. Visite o site: http://www.sessionbrasil.com.brSiga a GREGARIO e acompanhe nossa cobertura diária da prova no Instagram: https://instabio.cc/gregariocyclingFique ligado também no nosso Clube Strava, com principais crônicas do ciclismo profissional produzidas pela Gregario e pela Rouleur: www.strava.com/clubs/GregarioCyclingClub✍️ Conhece a Rouleur? A revista de ciclismo mais legal do mundo agora é parceira da Gregario Cycling e temos um cupom para você. Use GREGARIO15 e assine a versão impressa ou online com desconto. Acesse: www.rouleur.ccThis podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Chartable - https://chartable.com/privacy
With four World Time Trial titles to his name Tony Martin sits atop the list of the sport's all time greats in the discipline - alongside his old adversary Fabian Cancellara. In this conversation with Bobby and Jens, Tony reveals the truth about how tough the pursuit for that level of greatness was. From sandpaper coated saddles, to bending his shoulders, to private jet flights to fix injuries quickly - few can question Tony's commitment to his craft. But now in retirement Tony is pairing up with fellow Bobby and Jens alumnus Marcel Kittel to provide safe bikes for children. We meet the man behind the impressive palmares and discover how life is treating him beyond cycling. You can find out more about Tony's new bike company here https://lion-bikes.com/ Bobby and Jens is a Shocked Giraffe production for Velo. This episode was produced and edited by Mark Payne . Remember to follow Bobby and Jens on social media Facebook https://www.facebook.com/people/Bobby-and-Jens/100093419004559/ Threads: https://threads.net/@bobbyandjens YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdm7tkA_shHCsL0o1sV8biElMZd8-2y-g Twitter: https://twitter.com/bobbyandjens Get the Outside Watch app to stream films and series wherever you go: https://outside.watch/ios https://outside.watch/android Follow Outside Watch for the latest and greatest: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/outsidewatch/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/outsidewatch/ Get unlimited access to articles, courses, premium films, series & more with Outside+ The one subscription to fuel all your adventures: https://outside.watch/Plus
Ser auténtico es creer que necesitamos cada día más de Jesús.
Nanci Trivellato is cofounder, with Wagner Alegretti, of the International Academy of Consciousness. She is author of Vibrational State and Energy Resonance: Self-Tuning to a Higher Level of Consciousness as well as Astral Projection, a Primer: Introduction to Out-of-Body Experience. Her website is https://www.nancitrivellato.com/ Here she describes her decades of work with conscious intention and … Continue reading "The Subtle Energy of Consciousness and the VELO technique with Nanci Trivellato"
Fresh from the Steamboat Gravel race Tiffany Cromwell joins Bobby and Jens to discuss how she manages a gravel calendar alongside her road campaign. A former winner of Omloop Het Nieuwsblad and two stages of the Giro Donne, Tiffany has become one of the biggest names in the gravel pack. In this conversation she guides cat 6 gravel rider Bobby through the finer points of competing at the pointy end on dirt roads. We also here about the race she's created with her boyfriend, Valterri Bottas and the lessons she thinks cycling can learn from F1. Plus, there's time to look to the future as she continues the delicate balance of competing into demanding disciplines, while preparing for a life beyond the saddle. Bobby and Jens is a Shocked Giraffe production for Velo. This episode was produced and edited by Mark Payne . Remember to follow Bobby and Jens on social media Facebook https://www.facebook.com/people/Bobby-and-Jens/100093419004559/ Threads: https://threads.net/@bobbyandjens YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdm7tkA_shHCsL0o1sV8biElMZd8-2y-g Twitter: https://twitter.com/bobbyandjens Get the Outside Watch app to stream films and series wherever you go: https://outside.watch/ios https://outside.watch/android Follow Outside Watch for the latest and greatest: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/outsidewatch/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/outsidewatch/ Get unlimited access to articles, courses, premium films, series & more with Outside+ The one subscription to fuel all your adventures: https://outside.watch/Plus
Nove etapas já ficaram pelo caminho e no primeiro dia de descanso da Vuelta a España 2023, fazemos um resumo do que aconteceu e a expectativa para a próxima semana. Com a disputa totalmente aberta, evento está sendo marcado por decisões precipitadas da organização em prol da segurança.O que está mais inseguro nessa Vuelta? O percurso ou a organização? Leandro Bittar e Alvaro Pacheco vão comentar as decisões da Unipublic de neutralizar as etapas e como isso diminuiu o ímpeto do pelotão. Voltando para a disputa, será que o fenômeno 'GC Kuss' termina na crono desta terça? O supergregário da Jumbo segue na liderança e terá seu teste de fogo para saber se está de fato na briga. Roglic, Remco e Vingegaard continuam muito próximos. Ayuso, Almeida, Mas...quem ainda está na briga? Na pauta também o anúncio dos candidatos ao Velo d'Or, o ciclismo feminino com a despedida da Annemiek Van Vleuten e os resultados da semana com Vinicius Rangel correngo na França e Nicolas Sessler no Tour of Britain. O Gregario Radio é um oferecimento de Session Brasil (@sessionbrasil). We Make you Faster. Visite o site: http://www.sessionbrasil.com.brSiga a GREGARIO e acompanhe nossa cobertura diária da prova no Instagram: https://instabio.cc/gregariocyclingFique ligado também no nosso Clube Strava, com as crônicas diárias da prova espanhola produzidas pela Rouleur: www.strava.com/clubs/GregarioCyclingClub✍️ Conhece a Rouleur? A revista de ciclismo mais legal do mundo agora é parceira da Gregario Cycling e temos um cupom para você. Use GREGARIO15 e assine a versão impressa ou online com desconto. Acesse: www.rouleur.ccThis podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Chartable - https://chartable.com/privacy
Professional cycling is a battlefield, it can be hard to stand out, harder still to survive. At the continental level it can be even tougher. Sponsorship issues and losing your best riders to the World Tour means bosses need to think outside the box in order to survive. Richard Pascoe certainly is a blue sky thinker - for the last five years Saint Piran have turned from a domestic club team into a powerhouse - dominating the podiums in the UK and giving the best track riders in Britain a shot at a road programme. We speak to Richard Pascoe about how his team is breaking the mould from keeping their jersey sponsor free, to their ambitious plans to become carbon neutral.. oh and how they plan to stop Wout Van Aert, Tom Pidcock and Co at the Tour of Britain. If you enjoyed this chat with Ricci - you can support their Tour of Britain campaign here https://www.saintpiranservicecourse.com/products/tour-of-britain-adopt-a-race Bobby and Jens is a Shocked Giraffe production for Velo. This episode was produced and edited by Mark Payne . Remember to follow Bobby and Jens on social media Facebook https://www.facebook.com/people/Bobby-and-Jens/100093419004559/ Threads: https://threads.net/@bobbyandjens YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdm7tkA_shHCsL0o1sV8biElMZd8-2y-g Twitter: https://twitter.com/bobbyandjens Get the Outside Watch app to stream films and series wherever you go: https://outside.watch/ios https://outside.watch/android Follow Outside Watch for the latest and greatest: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/outsidewatch/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/outsidewatch/ Get unlimited access to articles, courses, premium films, series & more with Outside+ The one subscription to fuel all your adventures: https://outside.watch/Plus
BEERS: Will had a classic two-beer-festival weekend in Rhode Island, hitting the Ocean State Brewers Festival and "Brew at the Zoo." He ran into BBB guest Nichole Pelletier, founder at Crooked Current Brewing Company in Pawtucket, who is slinging out some of Rhode Island's finest beer! Will tried Banana Split Brown Ale, a perfect complement to the rest of the Crooked Current portfolio. Meanwhile, Jake's western tour continues with a trip to San Diego. Jake goes through some of the rich craft beer history in SD, and chooses Weekend Vibes by Coronado Brewing Company, one of the OG's in Southern California. BUSINESS (27:09): Colleen Eyges was out to eat with her family when she realized their waitress looked sick...everyone's worst nightmare. But when she saw the waitress's Pedialyte and ginger ale in tow, Colleen's worries eased - the waitress was just hungover! Realizing there must be a better way to drink vodka, Colleen set out to create the brand that became Velo Vodka. We discuss how Velo was built and scaled throughout the Boston area and beyond, the issues with other spirit brands across the country, and what makes Velo unique. Colleen also imparts her lessons from 20+ years in the corporate world and jumping into an industry she didn't have direct experience in. BALLS: Football season is upon us in just a few short days. We discuss how we're feeling about the NFL season as a whole as a precursor to our Writers Room show next week. Is it the Chiefs' season to lose, and what needs to go wrong for them to slip away? We also discuss some favorites to win the NFC North and South, break down some big moves this offseason, and explore the Ravens as a possible sleeper to turn some heads. This episode is brought to you by DraftKings. The DraftKings Sportsbook – Boston's hometown Sportsbook is LIVE right here in Mass! Bet on all your favorite sports from the comfort of your own home. Don't bet with some out-of-town sportsbook, BET LOCAL with DraftKings! Plus, ALL new customers who sign up for DraftKings Sportsbook TODAY using code BBB will receive up to ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY DOLLARS in BONUS bets! Soon you'll be able to bet on money lines, spreads, props, and more with one of America's top-rated Sportsbooks – DraftKings Sportsbook!Download the DraftKings Sportsbook app NOW! Sign up with code BBB to get up to ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY DOLLARS in BONUS bets to use once mobile sports betting hits Massachusetts. Only at DraftKings Sportsbook with code BBB! We're proud to present Manscaped as our partner! What guy wouldn't want The Right Tools for The Job?! Head over to manscaped.com/house, or use the code HOUSE at checkout for 20% off AND free shipping on your order. Thanks for listening! Remember to hit the follow button on Spotify, and leave us a review on Apple Podcasts. Join the conversation on Twitter and Instagram. Check out house-enterprise.com for all of our content. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/beersbusinessandballs/support
Rob Hatch has been the voice of some of modern cycling's most incredible moments - Pogacar beating Roglic in the 2020 Tour de France finale; to the older Slovene's revenge in this year's Giro his words have become as memorable as the pictures that he married them to. But as Bobby and Jens learn, the role is far from straightforward. This eye opening conversation highlights the incredible lengths he goes to in order to prepare for a race, how he manages with remote broadcasts and the changes to his job as full day broadcasts become the norm. We get a full guide around his home studio, discover his route into the sport, why he loves the sport of cycling in the first place and how he kept broadcasting when tragedy hit the peloton. Bobby and Jens is a Shocked Giraffe production for Velo. This episode was produced and edited by Mark Payne . Remember to follow Bobby and Jens on social media Facebook https://facebook.com/profile.php?id=100093419004559… Instagram https://facebook.com/profile.php?id=100093419004559… Threads https://threads.net/@bobbyandjens YouTube https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdm7tkA_shHCsL0o1sV8biElMZd8-2y-g Twitter https://twitter.com/bobbyandjens
There was one story that dominated Leadville this year. Keegan Swenson smashed the course record by more than 15 minutes and finished nearly 25 minutes ahead of second place. On the women's side, Sofia Gómez Villafañe won a tight battle among the top five, followed closely by Ruth Winder. In our recap, Payson chats with Velo reporter Betsy Welch about how good both the men's and women's fields have gotten this year, and where Keegan's dominance leaves the rest of the racers. For a first-hand perspective on the women's race, we hear from Ellen Campbell, who came to Leadville this year hoping to top her 7th place result last year. She talks about the dynamics of the women's race, how they used Tobin Ortenblad's blistering lead-out to their advantage, and why pee breaks can make or break the race in the women's field. Lastly, Payson breaks down Keegan's power numbers to see just what it took to achieve such a stunning result. Check out Payson's new film "Crossing Tasmania" here: https://youtu.be/eqI-hKkUoKwInstagram: @theadventurestache
Last year Dan Martin released his autobiography 'Chased by Pandas' which shared his unfiltered view of his career. While many autobiographies focus on their career highlights - Dan made the decision to focus on his fears as a cyclist - from the juniors to retirement. He joined us to reflect on his career - looking back on his junior career, racing with his dad and winning the British junior nationals before moving to represent Ireland. He also lifts the lid on following his cousin Nico Roche and Uncle Stephen Roche 'in the family business' sharing a room with Daryl Impey with La Pomme Marseilles and his steps into the peloton with Garmin. Plus why Liege-Bastogne-Liege is his favourite race, how he's helping pro athletes now and how you can ride with Dan Bobby and Jens is a Shocked Giraffe prouction for Velo. This episode was produced by Mark Payne and edited by Kirk Warner.
Bobby and Jens spoke to Kevin Vermaerke just days after the "hardest ever world championship road race" in Glasgow to discuss why this wunderkind is getting American cycling fans excited. We discover how he killed the time during the protest on course, his thoughts of leading the race and what it's like to tackle a challenging course that was raced so aggressively. He lined up at the 2022 Tour de France as the second youngest rider on the start line, by the tame his second shot at La Grande Boucle came around... he was still the third youngest. Kevin shares his thoughts about growing up in USA cycling's youth programme and spending time as a teenager living in the nation of his father - Belgium. Winning Liege-Bastogne-Liege as an U23 rider for Axel Merckx team and we look ahead to his future as he reveals his plans for the future with DSM-Firmenich. Bobby and Jens is a Shocked Giraffe production for Velo. This episode was produced by Mark Payne and edited by Tim Mossa.
Filippo Ganna is utterly unique in the men's peloton. At the time of recording Filippo was just a week short of his 27th birthday yet he has a palmares that is remarkable in its breadth and scale - he's won six stages at the Giro d'Italia - including five straight time trial stages… and a mountainous breakaway. He's the reigning hour record holder, yet finished second at this years' Milan San Remo. He spoke to us just before winning his first week-long stage race at the Tour of Wallonie as he prepares for the Cycling Super World Championships in Glasgow and La Vuelta…. Where he'll be looking to add to his six track world titles and his two world time trial titles… and did we mention he's also a reigning Olympic champion? Filippo speaks to us of the brotherhood of cycling, his plans for the future in the sport and shares his thoughts about life on the road. Bobby and Jens is a Shocked Giraffe production for Velo. This episode was produced by Mark Payne and edited by Kirk Warner.
Matthew Riccitello might only be in his first year in cycling's World Tour, but he's already made a big impact. Few neo pros ride a Grand Tour in the first year… fewer still tackle the very first on the calendar…but that's exactly what Matthew Riccitello did in 2023. In this conversation he shares his personal journey to the sport of cycling - from the foot of Arizona's Mount Lemon, to Lux Racing, Hagen Berman Axeon and finally to the pro peloton with Israel-Premier Tech. He opens up about life on the road, his future goals and shares his own "pinch yourself moments" since entering the world of top level cycling. Bobby and Jens is a Shocked Giraffe production for Velo. This episode was produced by Mark Payne and edited by Tim Mossa.
Agradece a este podcast tantas horas de entretenimiento y disfruta de episodios exclusivos como éste. ¡Apóyale en iVoox! Extra-Órbita es un spin off de La órbita de Endor donde llevamos nuestro lema “Mucho más allá del simple frikismo” hasta sus últimas consecuencias. Dentro de Extra-Órbita el espacio TRAS EL VELO ahonda en cuestiones de misterio, ciencia insólita y conspiración. Hoy hablamos de encuentros extraños en carretera y de la posible explicación de algunos de ellos. Escucha el episodio completo en la app de iVoox, o descubre todo el catálogo de iVoox Originals
Zu Fuss zur Rheinquelle oder mit dem Velo dem Alpenrhein entlang: Jugendliche sind im Moment in Graubünden unterwegs. So sollen sie nachhaltige Mobilität und die Bedürfnisse der alpinen Lebensräume kennenlernen. Organisiert wird das Projekt vom Bundesamt für Raumentwicklung. Weitere Themen: * Erhöhung der Beiträge für die Schifffahrtsgesellschaft Untersee und Rhein: Thurgauer Gemeinden reagieren positiv. * Die Engadinerstrasse zwischen dem Unterengadin und Tirol wird gegen Felsstürze gesichert. * Sommerserie: Wir sind um 17:30 Uhr beim Training eines Fussballvereins.
The Cycling Legends Podcast [free version; no premium access]
In the final Tour Supplement, Chris, John and Gary pick over the bones of the final week of the 110th Tour de France. What a difference a week makes! The Cycling Legends Podcast is powered by Vive le Velo, premium cycles and accessories from the East Riding of Yorkshire. Check out the range at https://vivelevelo.cc Joining us on the public feed? Why not sign up for our premium content at https:www.cyclinglegendspodcast.com
There have been few better seasons in professional cycling than Demi Vollering's 2023. She's already won Strade Bianchi, Amstel Gold, Liège–Bastogne–Liège and the Vuelta a Burgos which all means she wears the Women's World Tour leader's jersey at her biggest objective of the season - The Tour de France Femmes. In this conversation with Bobby and Jens she reveals how her preparations are going as she looks to take on defending champion and her Dutch teammate Annemiek Van Vlueten. Demi also reveals her journey into the world of cycling and how she plans to pursue the rainbow bands at the World Championships in Glasgow. As the Tour de France Femmes gets under way.. There's also a chance to catch Bobby and Jens' assessment of the men's event - recorded before the dramatic finale - with updates from Jens' time on the motorbike for GCN and Eurosport and a first time visitor to the race Diaa Nour gives us his view from the roadside of cycling's crown jewel. Bobby and Jens is a Shocked Giraffe production for Velo. This episode was produced by Mark Payne and edited by Kirk Warner.
The third round of the Life Time Grand Prix is an Infamous gravel race in Southwest Utah with over 10,000 feet of climbing over a punchy 69-mile course. This year's race was defined by a distinct lack of drama, but it was still historic. Keegan Swenson became the first (and only) rider in the event's history to finish in under four hours, while Sofía Gómez Villafañe smashed the women's record by more than six minutes. Payson and Velo reporter Betsy Welch talk about these wins as well as some of the other noteworthy finishes. From Matt Beers to Paige Onweller, there were many riders who staked their claim on the leaderboard last week with breakout performances. One of the riders with an attention-grabbing race was Nathan Spratt, an Indiana native who started racing gravel in 2022 after years of racing on the road. He now lives in Utah and fits training alongside his engineering career. He joins Payson to talk about his sixth-place finish at Crusher, how he came to the Grand Prix, and what it's like to live, train, and work with his twin brother, Marc. Payson also breaks down the power files of some of the athletes, including Matt Beers and Haley Smith.Instagram: @theadventurestache
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Join Chris Sidwells, John Galloway and Gary Fairley for a roundup of the talking points from week 2 of Le Tour. Plus Chris catches up with Luke Edwards-Evans, writer, editor and - oh - UCI-accredited moto pilot. The Cycling Legends Podcast is powered by Vive le Velo, premium cycles and accessories from the East Riding of Yorkshire. Check out the range at https://vivelevelo.cc
Stuart O'Grady is a man comfortable in many environments. As a rider he won four Olympic medals - including gold in the Madison in 2004, on the road he tamed the cobbles of Paris Roubaix and won the first of his two Tour de France stages by outfoxing his breakaway companions on a mountainous stage. Now 'Stuey' is tasked with kicking off the World Tour as director of the Tour Down Under. He joins his former teammates to look to the future and reminisce over their treasured memories of life in the peloton. Bobby and Jens is a Shocked Giraffe production for Velo. This episode was produced by Mark Payne and edited by Kirk Warner. Check out this episode in video here https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdm7tkA_shHCsL0o1sV8biElMZd8-2y-g
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Tired, emotional and about to do the laundry run, Gary, Chris and John look back on a scintillating first week of this year's Tour de France. The Tour de France Supplement is delivered to you on the Cycling Legends public feed. For more features, interviews and chat, why not sign up to our Premium content at https://www.cyclinglegendspodcast.com/ The Cycling Legends Podcast is powered by Vive le Velo, performance cycles and accessories in the East Riding of Yorkshire. Check out the range at https://www.vivelevelo.cc/
Edvald Boasson Hagen has been one of the strongest riders in the peloton since he joined the world tour in 2008 with High Road. His surprise win at Gent-Wevelgem in 2009, stage win at the Giro, and powerful roleur style made him a key signing for the newly formed Team Sky in 2010. He won the team's first ever Tour de France stage, picking up two in 2011 and rode as a key domestique in part of both Bradley Wiggins and Chris Froome's Tour de France wins in 2012 and 2013 respectively. He's also added 10 Norwegian time trial titles, four road titles, a world championship silver medal, a third Tour de France stage win, a pair of wins each at the Tour of Britain and the Eneco Tour and three more GC wins at the Tour of Norway. Now Edvald has set his sights on stage hunting for Team TotalEnergies at this year's Tour de France. This episode of Bobby and Jens is a Shocked Giraffe production for Velo. This episode was produced by Mark Payne and edited by Kirk Warner.
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Chris Sidwells and John Galloway join Gary to preview the opening week of the 110th Tour de France. Excited? We are! The Cycling Legends Podcast is powered by Vive le Velo, performance cycles and accessories in the East Riding of Yorkshire. Check out the range at https://www.vivelevelo.cc/
Caleb Ewan has long been regarded as one of the most explosive sprinters in the peloton. He's earned picked up victories at some of the world's most prestigious races... including the two races regarded as the unofficial sprinters world championships on the Champs Elysees and Scheldeprijs. In this conversation he reveals to Bobby and Jens everything about the art of being a modern sprinter from finding the right line to the finish to surviving the mountains. Bobby and Jens is a Shocked Giraffe production for Velo.
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This episode of Bobby and Jens is dedicated to Gino Mäder, his family, friends and those that loved him. Full disclosure Adam Hansen was booked to talk about rider safety before the Tour de Suisse started, the day we sat down to record - team Bobby and Jens and Adam had just received news that Gino hadn't made it - and were still processing the horrific news regarding his accident. This episode is unlike any of the others we've made before - and hopefully there won't be another in the future. This conversation surrounds Adam's role in keeping riders safe, the obstacles still in his path and explores the role the CPA serves in ensuring rider wellbeing away from the bike. Bobby and Jens also reveal their own experiences with death in the peloton as they share how they dealt with tragedy on the bike. Bobby and Jens is a Shocked Giraffe production for Velo. This episode was produced by Mark Payne and edited by Kirk Warner. Check out a visualized version of this episode at youtube.com/@OutsideWatch
Ferien mit dem Velo sind beliebt. Was natürlich dazugehört: Velotaschen oder Saccochen, in denen man sein Reisegepäck mitführen kann. Wir sagen Ihnen, welche Taschen die richtigen für Sie sind und wie Sie diese optimal packen. Fahrradtaschen gibt es in den verschiedensten Ausführungen, und wenn wir wollen, können wir unseren Drahtesel von vorne bis hinten vollpacken. Allerdings hat das auch Auswirkungen auf den Fahrkomfort und auf unser Gleichgewicht. Verschiedene Taschen für verschiedene Bedürfnisse In der Velo-Mitte beeinflusst das Gepäck das Fahrverhalten am wenigstens Wenn wir unser Velo-Gepäck in der Mitte des Fahrrades deponieren, spüren wir das beim Fahren kaum. Daher sind Rahmentaschen, die man quasi zwischen den Beinen mittransportiert, ideal. Ein weiterer Vorteil: Rahmentaschen: Sie sind sehr gut befestigt. Daher kann man mit ihnen sehr gut auch Offroad fahren, ohne dass uns bei jedem Stein oder bei jeder Wurzel das Gepäck um die Ohren fliegt. Saccochen für den Gepäckträger: Da geht eine Menge rein Wer länger unterwegs ist und mehr Reisegepäck dabei hat, kauft am besten zusätzlich Taschen für den Gepäckträger Wichtig hier: Gerade wenn sie schwer beladen sind, sollte man sie nur paarweise verwenden – für ein gutes Gleichgewicht. Diverse Modelle sind auch mit Mitteltasche, die quer über den Gepäckträger liegt, erhältlich. Das gibt noch mehr Platz. Vorderradtaschen und Satteltaschen für das Kleine Wenn das noch immer nicht reicht, kann man sein Fahrrad zusätzlich mit Vorderradtaschen ausstatten. Auch hier sollte man die Taschen auf beiden Seiten anbringen. Ebenfalls erhältlich sind Satteltaschen, die unter dem Fahrradsitz angebracht werden. Achten Sie darauf, dass diese Tasche wirklich auch Platz hat – je nach Grösse. Je nach Modell sind sie beliebt für Bikepacking-Touren – also für Touren mit dem Mountainbike auf unebenem Gelände. Dies, weil sie gut und nah am Fahrrad befestigt sind. Lenkertasche: Für das wichtige auf der Tour Sie hat wenig Platz, bietet aber sofortigen Zugriff auf ihren Inhalt. Stellt man das Fahrrad ab, kann die Lenkertasche abgenommen und dank Tragegurt auch als Umhängetasche verwendet werden. Ein paar Pack-Tipps: * Grundsätzlich gilt: Für einen guten Schwerpunkt gehören schwere Gegenstände nach unten in der Tasche. * Schweres Gepäck kommt in die Rahmentasche oder in die Gepäckträgertaschen. * Schwer beladene Gepäckträgertaschen nur paarweise nutzen. * Vorderradtaschen sollte man nur mit leichten Gegenständen füllen und ausserdem immer paarweise – links und rechts vom Rad – anbringen. Sonst wird das Lenken mühsam. * Satteltaschen sollten auch nicht zu schwer beladen werden. Grössere Modelle füllt man zum Beispiel mit Regenjacke und -hose. So hat man sie schnell zur Hand, wenn man sie braucht. Kleinere Modelle sind ideal für Werkzeug und Ersatzschlauch. * In die Lenkradtasche kommen die wichtigen Gegenstände, auf die man schnell zugreifen muss: Portemonnaie, Strassenkarte und Handy beispielsweise. * Wir können unser Velo nicht grenzenlos bepacken. In der Bedienungsanleitung steht das maximale Gesamtgewicht – mit Fahrer und Gepäck. Oft ist auch auf dem Gepäckträger eingraviert, was dieser tragen kann. Halten Sie sich an diese Angaben, denn wenn Sie Ihr Fahrrad überladen, kann es sein, dass bei einem Vorfall die Versicherung nicht zahlt. Ein paar Kauf-Tipps: * Überlegen Sie sich als erstes, wieviel Platz ihr Gepäck benötigt und wieviel oder welche Taschen Sie dementsprechend benötigen. * Nicht jede Fahrradtasche passt auf jedes Velo. Klären Sie, ob die Grösse der Taschen geeignet ist und ob das Befestigungssystem der Tasche mit Ihrem Velo kompatibel ist. * Achten Sie darauf, dass Sie die Taschen einfach montieren und wieder wegnehmen können. * Prüfen Sie, ob die Taschen gut befestigt werden können – bei Gepäckträgertaschen zum Beispiel oben und unten. Ansonsten klappert es ordentlich. * Die Taschen sollten wasser- und staubdicht sein. Bei Saccochen mit Reissverschlüssen ist das schwierig. Da sollte zumindest eine separate Regenhülle im Lieferumfang sein. Die beste Dichtigkeit weisen Taschen auf, die zum Verschliessen von oben her aufgerollt werden.
Bobby and Jens are joined by Canadian hotshot Derek Gee. He spoke to Bobby and Jens days after the conclusion of his epic first grand tour - before he was rewarded with a well deserved contract extension by his team. After Derek finished 2nd on four Giro stages, 2nd in the Mountain classification, 2nd in the points he was the deserved winning of the race's most aggressive rider classification. We hear Derek's thoughts on the viral moments from his Giro - from the screaming Canadian fan to the mistake Jonathan Vaughters won't forget! Bobby and Jens is a Shocked Giraffe production for Velo. This episode of Bobby and Jens was produced by Mark Payne and edited by Kirk Warner.
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Die Schweiz ist bekannt für vieles, aber nicht unbedingt dafür, ein Land der Fahrradfahrer zu sein. Das soll sich ändern. Fahrradschnellwege sollen mehr Menschen dazu bringen, vom Auto aufs „Velo“ umzusteigen.
Darren Ware is currently the pitching coach at Walsh University in Ohio. Walsh is a Division 2 college baseball program. Darren explains the competition at the D2 level, how he coached his sons growing up (both now college pitchers) and combining old school + new school pitching techniques.Timestamps for Darren Ware [2:48] Agenda for the Summer [4:33] Things Coaches are looking for during Recruitment [8:41] The Importance of Height in Pitchers[11:32] Advice to parents whose kids want to play in D1[13:45] Coaching your kids [21:22] Analytics at the College Level[24:50] D2 from a Velocity StandPoint [29:32] Taking Chance on Players based on Velo [31:18] Development as a Coach [33:44] Question for other Coaches[41:41] Work Away Vs. Working In Follow Darren Ware on Twitter: @coachware17 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Unbound is always full of adversity, perseverance, and unexpected triumphs, and this year was no different. With plenty of inclement weather, mud, upsets, and drama, the race has reignited long-standing debates in gravel and elevated a few riders to a new level of prominence. In this recap episode, we hear from many of the riders who braved this year's uniquely challenging course. Payson chats with Velo reporter Betsy Welch about wheel sharing, whether the race organizers should have re-routed around the mud, and the surprises in the men's and women's fields. Payson is also joined by Carolin Schiff, this year's winner. She talks about how she went from the brink of retirement last year to winning the biggest gravel race in the world, the race drama she put to rest with her commanding victory, and the bike shop she owns in her hometown in Germany. Payson also digs into the power files of two riders at the front of the men's and women's races to get a more detailed look at how the events unfolded.Instagram: @theadventurestache
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Hoy, en los países islámicos, son muchas las mujeres que luchan por ampliar sus libertades. ¿Responde a la realidad la imagen de reprimidas y subyugadas que tenemos en Occidente de las musulmanas? ¿Ha sido siempre así? Como en casi todo, hay que mirar al pasado, contextualizar y matizar. Hemos preparado para ti este podcast narrativo documental donde descubrirás el fascinante mundo de la religión y cultura islámica, un podcast exclusivo sobre El Islam, de Mahoma al Siglo XXI. Suscríbete a MUY HISTORIA con un descuento del 50% usando el código especial para podcast - PODCAST1936 https://bit.ly/3Mz0ImV Comparte nuestro podcast en tus redes sociales, puedes realizar una valoración de 5 estrellas en Apple Podcast o Spotify. Dirección, locución y producción: Iván Patxi Gómez Gallego Contacto de publicidad en podcast: podcast@zinetmedia.es Gracias por escuchar nuestros 'Grandes Reportajes de Muy Historia'
It's raining in Emporia, Kansas and thousands of riders are about to head to the start line for this year's Unbound Gravel. Payson caught up with Velo reporter Betsy Welch to talk about the emerging variables to look out for in the race, including the weather, a new format for the women's start, a top contender lurking in the men's field, and spicy tactics. Plus, they take a stab at defining "gravel beef" and consider whether runners might have a leg up in this year's race. Instagram: @theadventurestache
She competed in ice hockey at collegiate level before transitioning into triathlon after narrowly missing out on the US Olympic team... and the changes have barely stopped since. Now an accomplished multisport star, she manages a complicated season of ultra long trail running alongside her gravel pursuits... She spoke to Bobby and Jens ahead of her biggest goal of the season - Unbound. Bobby and Jens is a Shocked Giraffe production for Velo. It was produced by Mark Payne and edited by Tim Mossa.
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À 27 ans, Sophie Planque et Jérémy Vaugeois sont partis pour un long voyage : traverser les Amériques à vélo de l'Alaska à la Patagonie. Soit 29 000 kilomètres qui débute aux portes de l'océan arctique, sur une portion de route célèbre : la Dalton Highway. Une piste de 666 kilomètres connue pour être l'une des routes les plus dangereuses au monde. Et bien que les premiers coups de pédales ont une odeur de liberté, leur rêve tourne rapidement au cauchemar. Abonnez-vous à notre newsletter pour ne louper aucun épisode ➡️ Retrouvez Les Baladeurs sur : Les Others Spotify Apple Podcasts Deezer YouTube Ausha En RSS
Leadville: The 100 Mile Mountain Bike Race Podcast, p/b Floyd's of Leadville
If you're ever at a Leadville Party and the energy starts to lag, you know with 100% certainty you can jumpstart the conversation by asking, "So what tires are the best for Leadville?" In reality, though, that question doesn't really make much sense until you understand the anatomy of tires: their composition and performance characteristics. That's what we aim to do in this show. To help us, we have recruited someone who has no brand loyalty or connection: Velo and Pinkbike Sr Tech Editor Troy Templin. Get ready for some Tire Talk! In our LFAQ section, we focus on another hotly-debated topic: weight. There's a temptation to get as thin as possible for the LT100, and it makes intuitive sense: there's a lot of climbing in this race, and the less you have to drag up to 12,500 feet, the better. But Hottie and Fatty have both tried the "get as skinny as possible" approach and have some different opinions. This is a practical episode you can definitely use for a better day on the course; don't miss it!
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Jack Fritz reacts to the Phillies beating the Blue Jays 8-4 on Tuesday night. Presented by Miller Lite. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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On this week's episode, Stephen Frothingham, Editor in Chief of Bicycle Retailer & Industry News at Outside, Inc, joins Randall to share his unique perspective on bicycle industry dynamics in general and the bike shop and OEM ecosystem in particular. Steve is an industry veteran who approaches his work with a warmth and curiosity we've long appreciated, and his reporting continues to serve as an influential resource for all of us who work in the space. Episdoe sponsor: Dynamic Cyclist (Promo code THEGRAVELRIDE for 15% off) Support the Podcast Join The Ridership Automated Transcription, please excuse the typos: [00:00:00] Craig Dalton: Hello, and welcome to the gravel ride podcast, where we go deep on the sport of gravel cycling through in-depth interviews with product designers, event organizers and athletes. Who are pioneering the sport I'm your host, Craig Dalton, a lifelong cyclist who discovered gravel cycling back in 2016 and made all the mistakes you don't need to make. I approach each episode as a beginner down, unlock all the knowledge you need to become a great gravel cyclist. This week on the podcast, I'm going to hand the microphone over to my co-host Randall Jacobs. Who's got Steven Frothingham editor and chief of bicycle retailer and industry news on the show to discuss his unique perspective on bicycle industry dynamics. The general bike shop and OEM ecosystem in particular, Steve is an industry veteran who approaches his work with warmth and curiosity that is so appreciated. His reporting continues to serve as an influential resource to everyone who works in the bicycle retail space. I think you'll get a lot out of this episode, learning a little bit more of the ins and outs of the industry as it all trickles down and has an effect. On us as riders. Before we jump in, I do need to thank this week. Sponsor, dynamic cyclist. The team over at dynamic cyclist has created a video library of stretching and strengthening techniques. Specifically designed around cyclists. The founders, cyclists themselves found a niche in developing this content as it didn't exist before their efforts. They've created hundreds and hundreds of different stretching routines to focus on different parts of the body that affect your performance as a cyclist. It's something for me that has become super important. I've been following the routine since around November last year, really specifically to work on lower back strengthening, but it found that I'm much more disciplined knowing that I've got these 15 to 20 minute episodes always available to me, both streaming from their website or also available from the app. I encourage you to give it a try. They've got a free one week trial, and if it works for you, They're offering gravel ride podcast listeners, a 15% discount off monthly or annual plans. It's quite affordable. I think it's less than a hundred dollars for an entire year's worth of programming. I expect like me I'll dip in and out of it with a heavier focus in the winter, but trying to stay on it, as I realized that stretching needs to be part of my routine. If I'm going to maintain my love and active cycling lifestyle, particularly on the gravel bike, where we all tend to get roughed up a bit. Use the code, the gravel ride to get that 15% off, just put it in the coupon code box@dynamiccyclists.com. When you check out, If that sounds like it's up your alley, I hope you give it a try again. They've got that free one week trial. So why the hell not. With that said, I'm going to hand the microphone off to my co-host Randall Jacobs. And jump right into this conversation with Steven Frothingham. [00:03:11] Randall: You're an old hand in the bike industry in the journalism space. Give us a little bit of background about that. [00:03:17] steve: , know, I started at Brain, I think I was the first editor hired back in think 92. And then I left and worked for the Associated Press twice and then came back into the bike industry to work for, be News for a few years. Uh, left them, went back to Brain, and then the company that owned Be News bought Brain. I ended up back in that same company again, which became outside. So it, yeah, it kind of feels like, uh, even though I don't work for ERs again, I feel like I'm back with the same crew. Uh, I literally was in the same, same desk, same office for a little while. So, uh, that, that seems to be, seems to be the pattern in my career here. [00:03:55] Randall: Just to clarify for our listeners, brain is bicycle retailer where you are currently, uh, editor-in-chief. Correct. [00:04:01] steve: Mm-hmm. [00:04:03] Randall: Tell us a little bit about the nature of that publication. So what role does it serve in the industry? [00:04:09] steve: well, when we started it in 92, you know, the full name is Bicycle Retailer and Industry News. And, uh, the, and was important back then because the, um, the other trade magazines, and believe it or not, there were three others back then were all print magazines. We were the fourth. Um, but they had this real focus on. Kind of this old school dealer thing, like, you know, we're gonna profile this retailer this month. We're gonna do a story on, know, uh, how to hire kids for the summer. We're gonna do a story about how to display your tires. Um, and we're not really gonna write about the industry, the supplier side. So we came along and we were bicycle retailer and industry news. And we used to kinda joke that what we're doing is reporting. We're telling the retailers what the, uh, suppliers are doing to them this month. Um, which is maybe a little bit too cynical, but we, we reported on what the industry was doing. We reported the news of what the supplier side was doing for the most part, which is what the retailers want to read. Um, most retailers, they might say that they'd like to read a story about how to merchandise their tires, but that's kind of broccoli. You know what they were, what really wanna, wanna have is the, uh, the steak and potatoes of, uh, finding out what one of their suppliers, uh, just bought another company or just went bankrupt or just switched factories in Taiwan or, or something like that. And that's the kinda stuff that the, uh, the other titles we're not doing back in the nineties, which is why, uh, this is gonna bring out the competitive bike racer jerk in me. But we, we put the other three out of business in three or four years, I think. Um, it wasn't very long before Brain was the only, uh, industry title in the US and, um, to some extent we're still doing the same thing. Obviously we've had to adapt to social media and the internet, which didn't exist when, when we started the magazine. But, um, we're still doing the same thing. We, we focus on news and, um, You know, we like to do some, we like to profile important retailers once in a while, but for the most part, uh, we still report on what the supplier side is doing with the knowledge that most of our readers are, uh, are retailers independent? [00:06:37] Randall: I actually hadn't appreciated that you were on the founding team for bicycle retailer. So can you share a little bit more about that and who else was involved and how that came to be? [00:06:47] steve: Well, I didn't have an investment unfortunately. Uh, I was, I think I was 22 years old or something, so I was just the first hired gun there. Uh, mark, who still writes for us, was the founding editor, uh, and a partner early on. There was another partner named Bill Sandler, who, uh, passed away quite a few years ago now. Uh, so Mark and Bill were, were really the founders um, Uh, I think they hired a, uh, an office lady named Kathy, and then they hired me. And, uh, that was kind of the start of the fun and, um, you know, and then the company went through various different ownerships, uh, some of which happened when, after I left, when I was, uh, outside the bike world for while. Uh, sometimes I forget it went through three or four different ownerships. Uh, when I came back it was owned by Nielsen of the famous Nielsen Ratings Nielsen, which, uh, owned, uh, trade shows including interbike. And, uh, we were actually operated by the National Bicycle Dealers Association, the nonprofit dealer trade group. Um, so we were owned by Nielsen, which was kind of renamed as Emerald Expositions. Uh, so I think my paycheck came from, now my paycheck came from the Mbda a you know, we went through quite a few years of being run by a very small nonprofit trade association. And then, and then it changed hands. Uh, M BDA a had some financial problems and, uh, we were not exactly helping things. So, uh, we got handed off to, uh, what was then called Pocket Outdoor Media, the company that owned Velo News. They owned Velo Press Draft, fleet Magazine. At that point, uh, Robin Thurston was a minority investor, I believe, in pocket outdoor media. And then, uh, you know, about a year or so after, uh, brain became part of that group, became the ceo, um, started raising money to buy a whole bunch of titles, which you've probably heard about, including Pink Bike Cycling Tips, um, some, uh, some bike events in Colorado. And then eventually the big purchase was raising the money to buy outside Magazine. And, um, company Pocket Outdoor Media was, I think, I think Robin had actually hired a marketing company to come up with a new name for Pocket Outdoor Media, because people thought Pocket Outdoor Media was a billboard company. Uh, and the sales reps didn't like that. Uh, so they were, you know, doing the marketing thing of, of bouncing all these ideas off the wall, coming, trying to come up with a new idea and a new name. And then after they bought Outside magazine, they're like, well, why don't we just, you know, renamed the company outside? we became outside, which things have been moving very quickly. It's, you know, it's a big change for me moving from for a very tiny, little underfunded non-profit trade association from bicycle shops N bda, to working for this multi billion dollar startup basically a tech company. Um, change. And that's why the, the time, you know, I mean, I think back it seems like, you know, a decade ago, but it's only been like two and half years. [00:10:23] Randall: So Robin Thurston is the current c e o of outside the group. And he previously founded is it, uh, map my. [00:10:31] steve: Map my ride, map my run my companies, sold to Under Armor. [00:10:35] Randall: I think that was like 160 million acquisition or something. I remember having this number offhand because it was part of my pitch deck for another company that I was trying to raise money for. It's like, oh here's a comparison point of this company that was acquired in the space. [00:10:50] steve: Yeah, I mean map where I was kind of ahead of the curve with doing some of the stuff that Strava's doing now, and uh, now and outside. We have Gaia, which is a, mapping app that's primarily used by hikers and skiers. And then trail Forks, which was developed by Pink Bike as a mapping app mostly for mountain bikers. [00:11:12] Randall: It's quite well regarded of, of seen in some of the forums. People are very keen on that particular application in the quality of the routes there [00:11:19] steve: are really good. They do have their niches. I use Gaia for backcountry skiing and it, it works really well. And it's, uh, uh, you know, we could go way down a rabbit hole, but you know, why I choose to use Gaia when I'm skiing and why I use trail forks when I'm mountain biking and why I use, don't know what else when I'm road biking. I don't know. But, you know, each has its own, uh, its own advantages in different spaces. So, yeah. Robin, made his fortune, I think, fair to say, selling that company to, uh, under Armour. And then he worked for Under Armour for a while. I think he was the Chief Technology Officer at Under Armor, uh, left and did some other stuff, and then eventually came back to this group. [00:12:02] Randall: So you started when you were 22, essentially first hire for bicycle retailer, this fledgling industry magazine with a particular point of view that resonated with dealers. What drew you to this particular space? You studied journalism in college. Were you an avid cyclist? [00:12:18] steve: Yeah. All that. Yeah. Uh, I was a cyclist. From day one, I started in B BMX when I was a little turd. Uh, I'm definitely, I'm totally of that age now where, you know, I'm 55 now and I go to the shows and I see these retro BMX bikes that some of the companies are doing. My light up, oh, there's that red that I wanted when I was, now I buy it. I've resisted so far, but yeah, I started in bmx. I did mountain bike races back in the eighties and road racing and, and, uh, and yeah, then I, I got a journalism degree and I did work completely outside the bike world for about 10 years, the Associated Press, covering presidential politics in New Hampshire where the presidential primary is a big deal. So that was really fun. I think I covered three or four primaries in New Hampshire. Plus the usual AP stuff of plane crashes and lost hikers and syrup and lost mooses and stuff like that. [00:13:18] Track 1: Standard, Northeast Fair. [00:13:19] steve: Yeah. Typical New Hampshire stuff. [00:13:21] Track 1: And remind me where you grew up. [00:13:24] steve: in New England. Uh, I was born just a little north of where you are in Salisbury, Massachusetts. And, uh, my family moved up into New Hampshire when I was a teenager. And then when I came back, when I worked for the Associated Press, I lived in Wolfborough, New Hampshire for about 10 years. [00:13:38] Track 1: So you and I when we chat tend to go off in various tangents so, where would you like to go? Or, or we can start with the email that you sent me yesterday about shaman cues. [00:13:49] steve: yeah. I could interview you on that. What do you know? [00:13:52] Track 1: Well, you're the one, the inside line. Yeah. You saw the press release. [00:13:56] steve: the inside line yet. You know, I'm just starting my research and I'm, I'm going to Taiwan next week, so hopefully I'll learn a lot more over there. But, it looks like a fairly significant development, this cues thing. I was sitting through a, I think it was an hour long video recording from Shaman about it yesterday. And, I got antsy halfway through and started calling people and emailing people, and, uh, video was moving too slowly. So like, I need some more need. I need to check in with some people around the industry here to see what they think. [00:14:27] Track 1: For those listening, shaman released a new, not just group set, but family of group sets on their kind of entry to entry, mid-level. And, it's significant for reasons that go beyond simply, here's some new parts. They have a reputation for using constantly varying standards and interfaces and pull ratios, which is the ratio of cable pull to, gear shifting. so how much cable pulls results in how much movement of the derailer constantly varying that, not just year to year, but from group to group in order to avoid cross compatibility with third party components and even within their own groups so that brands don't mix and match. Say you want a higher end quote unquote, set of levers connected to a lower injury derail because you don't see the value in the higher end derailer. Well, they preclude that by adjusting the pull ratios from group to group. And so what they've done with cues is make it such. The pull ratio is the same across all the groups, even with different speeds. And the thing that the major differentiator between the different levels is the number of years. the cog spacing in the back is the same. , and I think that that's quite significant. and it signals something too. I think it's very much in favor of riders. And it helps shops as well. I think it helps the industry more generally, but it's also indicative of a shift in the power dynamic in the bike industry. , in many ways is the new shaman, they're in the ascendant. They have, , a number of standards that they have put out there that have gotten adoption, that they have defended through patents and, in some cases, litigation and so I, I view it in the context of, innovation and competitiveness in the bike industry. [00:16:09] steve: Yeah, that makes sense. I think even Shaman used the word realistic, meaning that the new groups, they like to say that the technology that makes them special is in the cogs. Not in the chain. not so much in the crank set or the derailer. which allows mix and match so if somebody wants to spec a cassette, whether it's, Nine, 10 or 11 speed with a different crank, with a different chain, it'll still work okay, because there's nothing, it doesn't require any kind of special chain and the, the magic isn't in the chain. It's in the cassettes. So yeah, I think it's more realistic. I mean, obviously the development of this began before the pandemic and the part shortage that was through the pandemic. But, what happened in the pandemic with all these, new third party, fourth party parts coming up, getting a second look, people taking a second look at, whether it's micro shift or, uh, tetra breaks or whatever. Anything they can get. this really kind of seals the deal. This kind of tells you that, , For the next few years, we're probably gonna see more and more of these mixed groups, at least at the lower price. this is all below 1 0 5 on the road, below Dior, 12 speed or 11 speed on the mountain bike side. So everything that was cheaper than Dior and down on the mountain bike, everything that was cheaper than 1 0 5 is now queues [00:17:39] Randall: Which is to say en entry level to, uh, lower mid-level stuff, which is also good stuff. They have, clutch derails 11 speed. It does look to be quality components. [00:17:49] steve: Yep. [00:17:50] Track 1: Yeah. [00:17:50] steve: it's not the electric shifting, it's not the 12 speed. [00:17:52] Track 1: Oh, of course not. No. That, that stuff's still locked down. So, um, in fact, uh, [00:17:58] steve: is a di two group as part of this, as the, um, more, more for the mountain bike, E mountain bike group, there's a DI two. [00:18:06] Track 1: presumably sharing a battery, I haven't dived into that yet. Um, [00:18:11] steve: the one that has the uh, uh, the front freewheeling system and the antilock brakes that they launched at Eurobike last year. [00:18:18] Track 1: got it. [00:18:19] steve: Yeah. [00:18:20] Track 1: Yeah, it's, it's interesting. You, you'll, you may recall that in the past I was looking to, uh, create an open platform for bicycle electronics, and. And was trying to corral the support of that. Um, all those third parties that, that Taiwan vendor base that was shut out of the theam shaman duopoly. Um, I think, uh, probably a little bit before its time. Uh, certainly the, the appetite wasn't there for investments. Um, there was, there was interest, but not in, not any investment dollars coming in from the Taiwan side at that time. Uh, but since then we've seen, I mean, electronic is, well now you have a protocol that you can lock down and so you don't have to vary. It used to be that you vary pull ratios or some sort of mechanical, mechanical interface between components. Now you lock down the communication protocol and the power grid, and in that way you, you constrain interoperability between components from third parties. . Uh, and then you have a lot of patents around the grifter, which is, um, I would argue the, the center, the nexus of power in the bicycle industry, um, is arguably the road grifter, the road brake shift lever. And with it now, the, you know, the, the cas and, uh, you know, with electronic, the electronic protocol, power grid, things like that. Because if you control, you know, even if you just control all, you've patented every single way that you can make a lever swing, [00:19:47] steve: Right. [00:19:48] Track 1: and you know, and that, and then now you control this lever, well, that lever dictates that the caliper has to be from the same. Producer as well, because of safety reasons. You can't mix and match a caliper with a different hydraulic brake system. And then for the electronic, same deal, you know, it controls like you, you just have a closed protocol and nobody else can connect with that. And now you control the interfaces between the levers, the cas, the derails, um, and the bike itself. And now you can dictate, you know, we, we want this particular break interface. And so we see, you know, uh, flat mounts and so on. We see the new universal derail your hangar, uh, that STR introduced, which I haven't, I haven't gone deep on the patent yet, but I, I wonder, do you know if that precludes other companies from attaching a derailer in the same way if they, if they forego that universal hangar? [00:20:45] steve: No, I think Sharon's being pretty open with, with giving licenses to it, but I dunno about other third party. I mean, and at what point are we gonna have another, you know, swam shaman lawsuit, like from back in the eighties or nineties, whenever that was, that the bundling, you know? So at what point did the electronic, um, protocols become open source because of an antitrust law? The antitrust lawsuit? I think it's unlikely. Cause I don't know who would challenge 'em at this point. [00:21:18] Track 1: it's, uh, the bike co. [00:21:20] steve: you got something planned. [00:21:21] Track 1: Um, you know, we're, we're a tiny little blip on, on the grander, um, bike industry and, uh, you know, [00:21:29] steve: 1991. [00:21:30] Track 1: yeah. Well, so is it, is it true or, or answer this however you like? Um, I have, I wasn't around, um, for. At the time that that was happening. And so I get, I have second in hand information from people who were there or were adjacent to it. And then I have what I've read, but my understanding is, um, so was originally grip shift. Grip shift had a different way, uh, twisting the grip on a flat bar lever to shift a rear dera and Shao would try to preclude compatibility by again, changing the pull ratios so that Sam's grip shift wouldn't work with their deras. But then also by having these bundling deals where they go to a bike company, an o e m, uh, original equipment manufacturer. So in this case, like thesis is a, my company is an o e em specializes an no e em truck as no em, and would say, okay, you can buy these components individually, but if you buy the complete group set I e you don't buy's thing, then you get a 20% discount. I think is, is what it was. [00:22:35] steve: Could be. [00:22:36] Track 1: yeah, and there was an antitrust suit that STR filed against Shaman, um, and STR one. And as I understand it, that essentially funded Sam's early rise. That's the reason why we have STR in many ways. [00:22:51] steve: all. I mean, I think there's some other money behind [00:22:53] Track 1: Mm-hmm. [00:22:54] steve: uh, yeah, that's always been sort of the, uh, the, uh, the urban myth. I don't know the, the STR used that money to go out and, you know, buy all, all the things that they've bought. Rock shocks, true native, um, zip [00:23:11] Track 1: Mm-hmm. [00:23:12] steve: whatever. And, uh, sax, which nobody really remembers now, but that was a pretty significant purchase. Uhs, not Richard Sax the, uh, frame builder from Connecticut, but, uh, sax of Germany, which, uh, made all the internal hubs and also made derailers and stuff, [00:23:29] Track 1: And chains too. Right? Because I think. [00:23:31] steve: chains, um, became s chains, which became Ram chains. Um, [00:23:37] Track 1: are still made in Portugal, I believe. [00:23:39] steve: I think so, [00:23:40] Track 1: Yeah. [00:23:41] steve: so yeah, they, they acquired that factory. Haven't, you know, chain factory is no small thing. And, um, anyway, that's always been the, you know, um, the rumor Yeah. Is that they used that cash settlement or, or judgment from Shaman to fund those. Uh, I don't know how true that is. Like I said, I know that there is some other money behind Swam and there still is. Um, some of those companies that they bought were, uh, pretty distressed [00:24:12] Track 1: Mm-hmm. [00:24:13] steve: You know, rock Jocks had had an IPO that, uh, were living at the top of the world there for a couple years [00:24:19] Track 1: The mountain bike. The mountain bike. Boom. [00:24:22] steve: Yeah. And then that kind of crashed and that's about when, when into the Suspension Fork business. [00:24:28] Track 1: Yeah. [00:24:30] steve: So they've been pretty savvy about the, uh, the acquisitions they made Mo most of which were back, back in the nineties. Although, what have they bought recently? They bought, [00:24:40] Track 1: Hammerhead. [00:24:42] steve: hammerhead. [00:24:43] Track 1: Yeah. [00:24:44] steve: one. [00:24:44] Track 1: Yeah. [00:24:45] steve: Yeah. And, uh, and the Power Meter company. I don't, the power tab, which they kinda put [00:24:51] Track 1: cork. [00:24:52] steve: then, [00:24:52] Track 1: Cork, um, was power meters. Um, [00:24:55] steve: power Tap, which they bought from cs, [00:24:58] Track 1: oh, that's right. [00:24:59] steve: what was [00:25:00] Track 1: Uh, shocks. [00:25:02] steve: Jacquez [00:25:03] Track 1: Yeah. [00:25:04] steve: and uh, what was the other one I was gonna say they bought something else. Oh, time pedals. [00:25:14] Track 1: Hmm. So that really gives them, you know, a lot of different, um, components and IP that they can then, uh, interconnect through that. The access, uh, protocol, which is a closed, I believe, ZigBee based, um, protocol. Um, and so, you know, getting back to, you know, open versus closed standards and ecosystems and things like that, um, it seems to be the trend in the industry as, as always to, um, to have walled gardens. [00:25:41] steve: Yeah. And that's been fun. You know, it was fun to see when, when Hammerhead, was, had had some di I two integration that Shaman shut him down [00:25:53] Track 1: Yep. [00:25:54] steve: on after Bottom, which was, um, some pretty good industry gossip right there. Um, but yeah, I mean, everybody, it's been really fun speculating about what's gonna happen, you know, with RAM owning, uh, you know, the power meter company owning a pedal company, owning a, you know, power tap, which made, which used to make power meter pedals. Um, and then owning a, a head unit GPS company on top of that. And then, like you said, the whole integration with access and, uh, it's pretty fun. [00:26:26] Track 1: Yeah, it's the full stack in a way. I mean, [00:26:28] steve: them battling, you know, setting up this not only with Shaman, but with, with, uh, with Fox Factory also. [00:26:38] Track 1: I'm waiting to, for, it seems very natural that a next step for them would to be, would be to buy, say a, a company that makes home trainers or even a company that does training software that, um, they might not want to go direct head-to-head with Swift, cuz Wif has such a dominant position in that space and they don't want to alienate them or get shut off of that platform. But, um, it seems like a natural next step to get into this burgeoning home cycling, uh, space, which granted has. Tapered off a little bit since, you know, post pandemic, but I think is still, you're, you know, there's a whole, there's a whole range of cyclists who primarily ride at home and are doing competitions in virtual worlds, and I don't think that that's going to change as the technology gets better. [00:27:22] steve: Yeah. [00:27:24] Track 1: Yeah. [00:27:24] steve: Yeah, that would make sense. I'm sure there's been all sorts of conversations and there's been a couple brands that have come and gone, um, that, uh, you know, maybe, uh, ceramic has kind of hit its lip and said, no, we're, we're not gonna bid on that one. Or we're not gonna, we're not gonna overpay for that one. I don't know. But, you know, you can look at the, the number of indoor brands that have, uh, had financial problems in the last, uh, year and a half, and, uh, even once before that, that just disappeared. Um, have you seen a kinetic trainer on the market in a couple years? I. [00:28:02] Track 1: Yeah. So what else do you see happening in the bike industry? Um, so obviously parts shortages were the big story during the pandemic. Now we have, uh, parts being, you know, liquidated through various channels and presumably is that's going to accelerate, uh, post Taipei show coming up in, uh, in Taiwan in, uh, the end of March [00:28:25] steve: Yeah, I think so. I think there's still some, some shortages I hear on the road bike component side. I guess you'd know more about that than, than I would. Um, [00:28:34] Track 1: saying group sets or. [00:28:37] steve: yeah, and, and the bikes that those group sets. Hang on. You know, I think, um, know, if you talk to dealers, it's, uh, yeah, they have all the $900 mountain bikes. They can, they can eat, uh, or even I think the 1500, $1,900 bikes, but the, um, the mid to high price mountain bikes are, are a little bit harder to get. And I think also the, um, mid to high price road bikes are hard to get. And, um, and there's kind of a shortage of, there's kind of a dearth of, of. Of really affordable road bikes. [00:29:13] Track 1: Hmm. [00:29:14] steve: I think, uh, there's not a lot of groups there, you know, I mean, tram's got and then, you know, shaman hasn't been, had a real good road group, uh, below 1 0 5 for years. So, you know, it'd be interesting and see how cues affects, affects that. [00:29:34] Track 1: Well, and their, their transition to 12 speed too. Um, and they had a, a factory catch on fire just before the pandemic, right. [00:29:43] steve: Yeah. What was that? It was a, was it like an ANOT factory or something? I know they were making some real high end stuff. Like they were making like the xtr crank, you know, when, when Xtr went to 12 speed, I think they couldn't get a crank for it for like two years. Right. [00:29:59] Track 1: Hmm. [00:29:59] steve: they were like, relabeling, theor, xt cranks. people were pissed about and Uh, yeah, I don't know. It it's, yeah. Fires in the bike in factory fires in the bike industry. That's, that's been, uh, yeah, that's been a gossipy thing going back, you know, 50 years. I think you can get some old timers telling you about famous fires and how they couldn't get such and such for, for five years after that fire. And sometimes I wonder much of it's urban myth, you know, and people just blaming things on their inability to produce stuff. They blame it on a factory fire. Didn't you hear about that? Come on. Giant factory burned out last year. And uh, I think especially before the internet, who would check, you know, it's like, ah, I don't know. I heard that like the van sneaker factory burned down last year. Didn't you hear about that? That's why I can't get those van sneakers I've been looking for. before the internet it was pretty hard to look that up. Now it's a little bit easier, you know? [00:30:55] Randall: Now you've been, so I think probably both of us have been talking to a lot of dealers lately for different reasons. Um, with, with me, we've been building out our, our dealer network for our logo spiel program. Um, and I'm curious to hear, I'll share a little bit about what I've been hearing and I'm curious how that, um, relates to, you know, some of the things that you've been hearing from dealers. So some of the things I've heard is, um, well one, you have, uh, essentially you weren't able to get product for a long time. A lot of dealers over ordered or ordered the same thing from multiple sources, hoping to get it from somewhere, um, sooner rather than later. And then all of it got dumped on the, on dealers in the fall and over the winter at exactly the time when. you know, nothing is selling generally, it's, it's the, the doldrums of the, the bike, uh, selling season and cycling season in North America anyways. But then also, you know, people, uh, with, with the country opening up post covid, um, you know, the bike boom was, was coming to an end and it wasn't clear. You know, where things will, you know, how that will level off and how much lag there will be, where everyone who got a b wanted a bike, got a bike and you know, the, you know, at at what point and, and you know, the secondhand market will start coming down in price and that'll become more compelling. So how long will it take for this lag of, of certain types of components to work its way through the space? Um, and it's been interesting too, you see, um, an ex, am I right that there's an acceleration of the big brands buying shops? [00:32:27] steve: Uh, depends on what time scale you're looking at. I, you know, I don't, I think, um, I think that's slowed down in the last six months or, or nine months. There was a big acceleration, you know, in, in 21, especially, uh, I think it was 21 when, you know, track had been buying shops left and right. Uh, specialized had not. [00:32:50] Track 1: Yep. [00:32:51] steve: um, when Mike's bikes sold to, uh, to pawn in, I think, I wanna say that was 2021. [00:32:59] Track 1: Pawn being the owner of, uh, Cervelo Santa Cruz and a handful of other brands. And Mike Spikes being a big multi-store chain, mostly in, in the NorCal, um, you know, bay Area. Yeah, [00:33:12] steve: Yeah. And they were the, I think the single biggest specialized dealer in the country and one of the, or maybe the most important markets in the country, the [00:33:19] Track 1: I think, I think Eric's was their biggest, I think Mike's bikes was number two. [00:33:24] steve: could [00:33:24] Track 1: but certainly the Bay Area is huge and a lot of, um, you see a lot of. S works, you know, $15,000 bikes rolling around the Bay Area. [00:33:35] steve: Yeah. Yeah. There's a lot more of the high end stuff than, than Eric's sell, I'm sure. [00:33:40] Track 1: Yeah. [00:33:41] steve: Um, and it did, and it did kind of seem like Specialized had all their eggs in that basket. Um, they didn't have a lot of other dealers. It was just Eric. I mean, uh, Mike's just ruled the rot anyway, so Yeah. Specialized really woke up. Uh, that was, that was the wake up call for Mike Ard was, oh my God, we're, we're losing our distribution. Um, and it came on, they lost some other big dis uh, big retail distributions like, uh, um, ables in, in, uh, hill Abel down in Austin, Texas, which was a huge specialized dealer that Trek walked in and bought, um, all of a sudden specialized, lost its biggest dealer in Austin, Texas, which is another, you know, another one of the handful of very biggest markets in the country. [00:34:27] Track 1: And growing, growing rapidly with a lot of deep pocketed folks as well who tend to buy their, their high-end stuff. Yeah. [00:34:34] steve: So all of a sudden specialized, uh, said we've gotta get into buying shops. And, uh, they were running around buying a lot of shops. Um, I think they did not have the system set up that Trekk did for, uh, processing these shops once they had acquired 'em. Uh, so it was a little bit more chaotic, whereas I think Trekk had built up to it slowly and they had, you know, from what the stories I've heard of, you know, TREKK has these SWAT teams that come in when they buy a shop. You know, there's just woo uh, you know, 20, 20 people come down from Waterloo and, and fill up the hotel rooms and whatever town that they just bought the dealership in and just handle that transition. You know, they usually shut down for a week or so, pop up some new signs, change over the website, uh, make some people some offers, and, uh, and they're, you know, kick out all the other brands and, uh, they're up and running again in a couple weeks. And, um, They've got it down to a science now and uh, I don't think specialized ever quite got to that. It was more like, uh, yeah, okay, we bought you, um, keep running. We'll talk to you in a few months when we need something from you. Uh, that was some of the impression I got anyway. I think specialized also was overpaying for some of the shops from some of the stories I heard, but, um, but I think it all slowed down a lot last, last year, I think with the, um, you know, with the economy and I think, um, the cashflow for companies like Specialized Amtrak I think became harder. And there's been a handful of acquisitions in the last nine months, but it, it really slowed down a lot um, I haven't heard it very many recently. We don't hear about 'em all cuz both, both track and specialize. Uh, tend to be really quiet when they buy a, a shop or a chain of shops. Uh, but I haven't heard many rumors in the last three or four months. [00:36:26] Track 1: I've heard, granted, I don't know the, uh, the dates on these, but as I've been talking to dealers, I've heard about offers being made, but those offers may have been made, you know, six, nine months ago, a year ago or something like that. Um, but there's definitely been a lot of, um, a lot of conversations being had along those lines over the past year, year and a half or so. Um, and it's interesting, you know, there's this long standing conversation in the bike industry about, um, you know, the dynamic between, or the balance between, uh, direct to consumer sales over the internet, which is growing for obvious reasons. And the pivotal role that the bicycle shop, particularly independent shops play, um, as a hub for the cycling community. And how do you. You know, how do you maintain this critical bit of community infrastructure, um, in a, in a world where, you know, increasingly people can buy things very conveniently over the internet and have it delivered, um, you know, directly to them. Now there's, you know, service has for a long time, um, been the bread and butter of shops. And a lot of shops pre pandemic were at least telling me, um, that they, as much as they spent a lot of their money on having bikes on the floor, most of their income, most of their net profit was coming from, um, service and parts and accessories. Uh, which is in some ways, you know, supplemental to service. Cuz when you go in for maintenance, you're getting chains and, and other service parts. Um, but how do you, how do you see that evolving over time from your vantage point? [00:38:07] steve: It's been hard. I mean, uh, when you hear that, you think, well, why don't you do a service only place? And, [00:38:15] Track 1: of folks are [00:38:17] steve: a few folks are, I'm not finding a whole lot of great examples of people that have been raging successes doing that. Um, Uh, you know, the whole, the whole mobile service thing has been at best for the last two or three years. Um, you know, I know that, um, a few people that have gone that way in, um, in the Boulder area haven't been hugely successful. I think there might be a couple that are still running, but, um, the problem is that you just lose that volume. You know, whether you make a lot of money on a bike sale or not, it's still, you know, thousand, 2000, 3000, $5,000 bike sale. You know, for some shops in Boulders, I know you were and visited some of them, you know, they pretty regularly are selling 10,000 and [00:39:08] Track 1: sure. [00:39:09] steve: uh, bikes. And, you know, the profit margin on that not be huge. And you might say, well, why does that guy even, you know, still sell mo bikes? Um, he can make more money building a wheel or, you know, just charging someone a few hundred dollars to install a new campy group on a moot spring. Um, but he nee he needs that, that dollar volume, uh, from the bike sale to pay the rent. Um, so there, there haven't been as many examples of that as you would think. you know, going back five years, going back 20, 30 years, people have been talking about, well, hey, we make all our money in service. Why don't we just do service hasn't worked for many people. Um, I think people expect bike shops to have bikes and, uh, I think the bike shops need that, that volume to make it work. Um, you know, some shops have been, have found some supplemental income doing more different types of service, whether it's, you know, whether it's bike fits, whether it's click and collect fulfillment. Or, uh, doing warranty service. You know, I know I, I talked to a guy at Caba who does warranty service for one of the better known to consumer e-bike brands. And, uh, he makes a pretty significant, high margin chunk of money, uh, just from dealing with warranty service from people that buy these bikes online and then have, have whatever troubles and the, uh, the brand reimburses him, uh, pretty generously. [00:40:46] Track 1: Yeah. [00:40:47] steve: so there's all sorts of, uh, kind of ancillary things around the edges that people fill in, but that guy, he still sound a lot of bicycles. [00:40:55] Track 1: Mm-hmm. [00:40:56] steve: Uh, he still has a warehouse full of 'em, and, uh, um, [00:41:01] Track 1: as do a lot of people right now, especially as we, we were saying on the, on the more entry level, um, in particular, [00:41:09] steve: Yeah. So I don't know. I haven't seen, there's, there's examples here and there. Yeah. Of, of the people who are, who are focusing on the service or are looking into, you know, more of the showrooming, uh, fulfillment click and collect kind of models. And there, you know, there's a million different models as you know, [00:41:27] Track 1: Mm-hmm. Well and, and click and collect and, [00:41:31] steve: not, I'm not finding, but like wholesale, you know, all the bike shops going outta business and all of a sudden we have a whole bunch of just little fulfillment showrooms around. Um, is happening, but not on a huge scale, you know, I mean, what specializes do, I don't know how many of these fulfillment centers they have. Uh, that's one of the things they did up in Northern California where, um, after they lost Mikes was opening up these little fulfillment centers. They would just rent a warehouse space in the, you know, in the business park somewhere and hire a couple people to assemble bikes and give 'em a truck, and they would run around and deliver 'em. [00:42:10] Track 1: Oh, that wa that was basically, um, velo, fix's pitch to the OEMs in the day. Yeah. Uh, Veli fix, uh, being a van based service operator, [00:42:21] steve: Yeah. [00:42:21] Track 1: I know you know this [00:42:22] steve: to be doing a better job of that than, than maybe be, was, um, [00:42:29] Track 1: velo fix. I, [00:42:30] steve: model. [00:42:30] Track 1: yeah. I had spoken with Velix a couple of times, and not only could I not understand the value to us as an o e em as a brand, but I couldn't understand a, you know, they, they required a huge upfront and, uh, investment from their franchisees to not just buy a van but outfitted a particular way and have it beli, fixed, branded. Um, and then, you know, you're paying a, uh, I think an, um, it might have been an upfront fee and then a recurring fee, and then a percentage of your income. To this company and this company, uh, is supposed to drive business to your franchise, but really in a way, they're kind of intermediating you. And at the end of the day, you know, and the co I, I'm curious, what do you think about this? Um, I, I had always talked, uh, spoken to the van based folks that I knew and said like, you know, at the end of the day, your, your brand is yourself and the quality of service and your engagement with your local community. And, you know, there's no big, um, company, uh, I think can substitute for that. And I think the bike space is, is that might be more so the case than in other spaces. Like you have this particular mechanic, uh, because the difference between a good mechanic, a skilled mechanic, a mechanic who cares, uh, and, and does a good job, um, and is engaged in, in their community. The difference between that and. Somebody who doesn't, somebody who doesn't have the skills. Somebody who, you know, it could be the difference between a safe bike and an unsafe bike amongst other things. Yeah. Um, well, so another topic that you and I have touched on in the past is, uh, you. The supply chain and risks to the supply chain. Uh, I've seen a couple of articles, I believe in your publication, uh, talking about, um, the increasing concerns about exposure to, uh, growing hostilities between, uh, the US and China over, uh, Taiwan. And I'm curious, what have you been hearing, seeing, uh, with regards to, um, any sort of changes being made on the, uh, upstream for a lot of companies, um, both, um, OEMs who are sourcing in Asia, but then also say Taiwanese companies and so on, uh, who are producing, um, you know, what, what changes are you seeing? Are people, is that accelerating at all with the, uh, increasingly hostile rhetoric? [00:45:07] steve: Uh, yeah, but you know, slower than maybe I would've expected. Um, and that, you know, that might not be due to reluctance, but just the fact that it's, it's a hard task, um, [00:45:19] Track 1: Yeah. [00:45:20] steve: setting up a, a bike factory or, uh, in a new country and building the infrastructure around it, uh, to make that work, particularly during a pandemic. [00:45:30] Track 1: Yeah, yeah. [00:45:31] steve: so, you know, going back to stories I was writing two years ago, you know, I, I think I saw just recently that Velo Saddle opened their factory in Vietnam, I think it was, [00:45:44] Track 1: Makes sense. [00:45:45] steve: that they had been working on for like three years. Um, and then they just, they were ready to turn it on when the pandemic started, and then they just, um, sat on those plans for a couple years. But yeah, Velo moving outta Taiwan supplementing their Taiwan factory with uh, a Vietnam factory is a big deal. And, um, You know, and at Eurobike last year, I had a lot of talks with people about, them setting up different factories in Eastern Europe to serve the European market. Um, but, uh, you know, we just saw investing in a new factory in Taiwan, so, uh, there's not a, there's not a mess exodus yet, and I think people are, are finding it's, um, fairly hard to operate in some of these other countries. Cambodia, I think, turned out to be more of a challenge than some people thought. [00:46:44] Track 1: Sure [00:46:45] steve: Um, you know, there's stuff moving towards Malaysia and Singapore, I think. Um, [00:46:52] Track 1: in the. [00:46:53] steve: Vietnam has been up and down. They had more covid problems than, than some areas, I think. yeah, it's a very slow movement. I think, you know, um, you know, Trek hasn't broken ground on a giant new factory in, in Waterloo, as far as I know. Or, or, or in Mexico or in, uh, Bulgaria. You know, [00:47:16] Track 1: Well, that, that's a whole, I mean, it's a related conversation, um, and a whole other can of worms that we can crack open. Um, so one, you know, we, we have looked, um, at various times over the years at what it would take, um, both for us to do more production domestically, um, but then also, um, for more production to be done domestically in a general sense. And, uh, I'll give an example. Um, recently I was looking at, uh, you know, developing and sourcing a metal frame, either steel or titanium. Um, we'll, we'll stick with steel. It's an easier example. So, um, called, uh, a few different outfits and, uh, well one, there isn't really anyone who's mass producing steel frames in the US When I say mass producing, like doing, you know, thousand of units at a go. Um, with the exception of maybe Kent. [00:48:09] steve: Detroit. [00:48:11] Track 1: Uh, Detroit bikes [00:48:13] steve: Mm-hmm. [00:48:14] Track 1: they, and they're serving as a contract manufacturer? [00:48:17] steve: Mm-hmm. [00:48:20] Track 1: Might ask for an intro at some point. Um, [00:48:22] steve: That's Tony Kirklands, [00:48:24] Track 1: oh, okay. [00:48:25] steve: who bought, um, he and his partner bought time, [00:48:30] Track 1: Mm-hmm. [00:48:30] steve: is making carbon frames in Europe somewhere. Slovenia, [00:48:36] Track 1: Okay. [00:48:36] steve: of those European companies, [00:48:37] Track 1: Yeah, [00:48:38] steve: Um, and then that company car, it's called Cardinal Bicycle Works, I think, uh, also bought Detroit. Uh, they're, they claim to be the biggest steel frame maker in the US and uh, they're making stuff under their own. Name and they're doing a couple other contract [00:48:58] Track 1: that. [00:48:58] steve: some, they made some Schwinn Varsities a couple years ago. I mean, I think that was only a few hundred units or a or so. But they actually, they brought Backy made, made Detroit? [00:49:11] Track 1: Well, one of the, the things that's great to hear, and I'm gonna follow up on that, um, one of the things that kept coming up as I was having conversations here was there are essentially two primary, um, sources, uh, brands that are selling, uh, tube sets. Unless you're sourcing factory direct outta somewhere in Asia, uh, I think you have colo. You have, uh, what Columbus some in some Reynolds. And one of, one of them has been struggling with supply and both of them are, are quite expensive in the US vis-a-vis what you can get comparable tube sets for in Asia. And so when you combine those two factors of both more expensive raw stock and the fact that you can't, you don't know it's going to be available and you only have two supply, two primary suppliers versus if I want to make, uh, a frame somewhere in Asia, I have. Countless tube suppliers now don't necessarily want to use just any of them, but even the, the higher end ones, of which there may be a handful, they still have the, all these other factories kind of nipping at their heels. And that, you know, drives innovation. That drives, uh, you know, them to build this sort of, um, you know, production facilities that can handle scale, that are responsive. Uh, they know if they can't deliver on a tight timeframe for a reasonable price, that someone else is gonna develop that capacity to do so. Um, and that goes across every single thing that you could want to source for a bicycle, whether it's something like a carbon component you want to develop. You have any number of facilities where you could co-develop that, that component. And they'll even provide the engineering, in some cases, they'll latize the tooling over the, over the units, which is to say, like, spread the cost of the tooling over the units, the, the tooling costs. You know, my tooling costs for a frame is on the order of like 8,000 bucks a size. . Um, and I could have that built into the price if I do enough volume. That's, you know, you combine all of these factors and, you know, going back to the issue of, of Taiwan, yeah, it doesn't surprise me that you're not seeing moves and mass just because you have such deep and interconnected supply chains there. And even like when you get your goods quoted, they quote it, um, not out of the factory. They deliver it to your door. And that's just expected. And when they say they're gonna deliver it, generally they're pretty on time. Um, particularly, you know, the, the, the better vendors out there, the more professional ones, the velo, uh, you know, velo makes not just saddles, but bar tape and they do most of the high-end stuff in the industry. Uh, still there are a couple competitors, but, um, and it's because they just do such a great job. Um, and that efficiency. And, uh, another example, I was sourcing stems years ago. and I was like, oh, I'm, yeah. I lived in a, I lived in China for a number of years. Uh, I bet you I can find a better deal somewhere in China. I couldn't, Taiwan had better pricing on a superior product. Um, and it's because Taiwan had, um, invested in, you know, factories like, uh, jd, um, their trade name is Trans X. [00:52:15] steve: mm-hmm. [00:52:15] Track 1: they manufacture for any number of brands. They did all of our, uh, cockpit stuff, uh, for thesis, and they just have a very well run production facility in these huge forging machines and really high quality tooling. And they can just crank out high quality 3D forg stems all day with that high quality and without a, a huge, with a less and less human intervention in that process. Um, and, you know, do it at a price that makes it such that, you know, there's no point in going somewhere else. Um, because most of the cost is not associated with the labor. [00:52:52] steve: Yeah. [00:52:53] Track 1: Um, so yeah, that, that makes sense. It'll be interesting. Uh, you know, I'm, as you know, I did my, my graduate studies in US-China relations, and so it's a situation I've been following quite closely. Um, I guess, uh, if something does happen there, uh, the availability of bike parks, it will be the, the least of everybody's issues, [00:53:13] steve: Yeah. Yeah, that's a thing. I mean, there, there won't be many parts of the economy that won't be affected, um, if something happens there. But, um, bike industry will not be an exception, [00:53:24] Track 1: now, [00:53:25] steve: um, except for maybe on the service part. Right. Still, uh, we can still maybe [00:53:31] Track 1: secondhand stuff will be, um, the secondary market will be booming, [00:53:35] steve: Yeah. [00:53:35] Track 1: so, [00:53:36] steve: up now by your, uh, by your HP cassettes now. Yeah. [00:53:43] Track 1: well, so to, you know, to wrap up here, um, what do you see going forward, um, from, and, and very open-ended question, uh, what are you excited about from a technology standpoint? What are you seeing, um, in terms of, uh, you know, innovative business models or distribution models or, uh, just trends in the, in industry more generally. [00:54:10] steve: Well, there's one word that we haven't used so far in this call. You like, [00:54:16] Track 1: Sure. [00:54:17] steve: you know, there's still, there's still some growth there, I think. Um, [00:54:21] Track 1: What do those stats look like right now? [00:54:23] steve: it's not good stats. There aren't any, I don't know. You know, you can just read the T leaves and see that, you know, there's been some discounting and there. Um, even some of the low price brands that were scaring the hell out of everybody a year ago, um, are now blowing out prices, which is not good news, but still, um, kind of suggests that the, uh, the, uh, demand has, has slowed a little bit. [00:54:51] Track 1: Mm-hmm. [00:54:52] steve: but you know, it's exciting to see, uh, the growth and the cargo bikes, you know, um, you know, I know Specialized finally did their public launch of their globe. The Globe this week. [00:55:02] Track 1: Mm-hmm. [00:55:03] steve: launched the Ecar bike a month or two ago. I think. there's some others coming around. Turn seems to be kicking ass. Um, And, uh, not to mention rad power. Um, so, you know, that's, that's still exciting. There's still growth potential there. Uh, you know, I don't think you're gonna get to European numbers where, you know, like in the Netherlands where, I don't know, or 70% of the bikes sold, there are e-bikes. Now, you know, we're in the US it's probably 12% or something. I don't know. not gonna get there. I've been saying that for years, but, you know, even if we go from 12% to 18%, that's, uh, a lot of growth. And it's also, um, you know, a high average selling price of these things. You know, [00:55:53] Track 1: Mm-hmm. [00:55:53] steve: to talk about Kent selling $89, 20, 20 inch wheel bikes to Walmart. But when you're talking about somebody, you know, when you know the low price leader is selling bikes for 1400 bucks, uh, e-bikes. [00:56:07] Track 1: Yeah. [00:56:08] steve: You know, and then, you know, and, and specialized just brought out their, you know, their discounted, affordable e cargo bike, which I think starts at 2,500 bucks or something. It's a big, it's a big difference there. [00:56:20] Track 1: Well, [00:56:22] steve: so, you know, Turin is selling these, you know, these little electric mini band bikes, uh, you know, for three, four or $5,000 regularly then, then another thousand dollars in accessories on top of it. Um, so, uh, not to be too focused on the dollars and cents here, but I am, I am from a business magazine, [00:56:43] Track 1: Sure. Yeah. [00:56:44] steve: um, so yeah, there's exciting and, uh, you know, yeah, there's, there's, it's, it's fun to see the growth in the gravel bikes. and uh, and the activity around that, uh, the way the events are going and the competition is, is really interesting. Um, [00:57:05] Track 1: And the, and the community dynamics in the gravel space too, it seems to have remained a lot more accessible even as you have more elite level events and so on, showing, showing up. You still have, you know, lots of local events and it's a, it's a version of cycling that is, well, it's a very versatile machine and it gets you off the road. Which addresses, uh, the, the thing that comes up in survey after survey as the biggest limiter, uh, for people getting on bikes, which is fear of cars, you know, the safety concerns. [00:57:39] steve: yeah, yeah. And I'm not sure what I think about that. I think it is more accessible than, you know, old school, you know, USA cycling, road racing, um, I guess, uh, but you know, last night, I mean, for me, I don't have a whole lot of interest personally in doing a lot of the events. Maybe a couple a year, but, you know, mostly I, what I like about gravel writing is just being able to go out and explore and. Um, ride by myself or with a, a couple friends, but not necessarily pin a number on. Even if I do pin a number on, it's not really to raise, it's just, uh, you know, an excuse to ride with some people and have some rest areas where I can get free food along the way, [00:58:21] Track 1: Yeah. [00:58:22] steve: of having to fill up my water bottles in a creek somewhere. So, um, but I don't know. I went to a, I went to a big gravel race, um, last spring and. It, it didn't look very accessible to me. You know, I saw a lot of people pulling up in Sprinter vans with a couple, you know, $8,000 bikes on the back bumper and, you know, the carbon wheels and, you know, there was a nice dinner out and it was during Covid, so everybody was eating outside and they had the streets blocked off. We're all sitting out on the tables on the street. And, uh, it was, it was kind of fun. It reminded me of, you know, no racing from back in the day. But, uh, but then, but then, yeah, I'm looking around and I'm seeing a lot of pretty well-healed middle class [00:59:06] Track 1: Yep. [00:59:07] steve: people with nice cars and carbon bikes, with carbon wheels and a whole lot of money invested. And I'm like, I, [00:59:15] Track 1: Well, and [00:59:16] steve: accessibility of this. [00:59:17] Track 1: well, and, and yes, that absolutely exists. And that's a, that's a perfectly fine thing. Um, you know, there's, there's a place for everybody. I, I think what I'm referring to more is, well, one, what you're describing as like going out solo or with some friends and, you know, going out on the road, leaving from your back door and then going out on adventure and like experiencing your area from a different vantage point. Um, there's also kind of along those lines, uh, the bike packing phenomenon, which to some degree is a little bit like the s u V phenomenon, that people are buying bikes that they could go bike packing with, um, but not necessarily doing it, but you, but you see more and more of that people doing an overnight or a couple days or something. [00:59:57] steve: Mm. [00:59:58] Track 1: but then lots of just, uh, at least here in New England, I've been to a few very kind of small, intimate types of events. Maybe you have a, a couple hundred people show up and there's a, a, you know, a, a wood fired, um, uh, pizza oven going and, you know, local, uh, brewery supporting, and it's to support, uh, some local cause and maybe they have a podium. Um, but, but not really. It's like, that's not the point [01:00:26] steve: Yeah. Yeah, it's interesting. I think, uh, the whole, the way the competition goes, um, you know, I don't know how many people are interested in the, and even, uh, from a spectator point of view in the racers, I, I, a few people are, I mean, we [01:00:44] Track 1: It's, it's not, it's not super interesting [01:00:47] steve: right? I mean, I, I'm a nerd. I mean, I'll, I'll, man, I, last week was, I, I was watching Melan, I mean, not Melan. Perry Neese and Toreno Rko, you know, back to back every morning. I mean, I'm a total bike race nerd. I love it. You know, I did used to be the editor of T com, uh, and I couldn't even tell you who the top gravel racers are, you know, in the US and I don't know how many people care. I know, you know, we at outside@beonnews.com and cycling tips.com. We write a bit about that. Betsy Welch is doing a great job, but, I, I don't know how many, you know, I'm, I'm interested in doing gravel events. I'm interested in the gravel equipment. when I hear about an event, I think, oh, that might be nice to go to some year. I'd like to do that and see what it's like to ride in that part of the country on those kind of roads. Uh, but do I want to read, uh, a 2000 word interview with the guy that won the pro race? Uh, maybe not. I dunno. [01:01:55] Track 1: I'm, I'm with you. I think that the, um, the more interesting story is the, the story of your own experience of the events. You know, you go and you do something that is long and maybe has some technical sections, and you are, um, linking up with different groups along the way, unlike, say, a, a cross-country race. Um, so cross-country race, you tend to be, you know, it's a, it's a time trial in which you have some people in the way sometimes, um, and road, [01:02:20] steve: in the way. [01:02:21] Track 1: yeah. and then Ro [01:02:23] steve: usually the one that's in the way of some other people, but yeah. [01:02:26] Track 1: Yeah. Um, that, that was my discipline back in the day. Uh, but with gravel, you have, I mean, uh, I know quite a few people, myself included. At this point. I'm no longer. I no longer do these events to compete, I do it as a way of connecting with folks, like being out on a ride and you end up just, uh, linking up with different groups and having this kind of shared ordeal of slogging up that hill with a group or riding into the wind with another group and, you know, making friends along the way. And those are the types of dynamics that, you know, I have, I haven't done a ton of the, um, you know, the, the big, the big banner events for, you know, gravel series and so on. Uh, but those are the dynamics that I'm seeing at the, again, these more intimate, local types of events that I think when I talk about accessibility, that's, that's where, um, my heart is, you know, things that are much more about bringing people together and, and providing a shared experience, a platform for a shared experience that people, uh, find, um, meaningful and not just a competition. [01:03:28] steve: Yeah. And just from a, you know, from an event point of view, just the practicality of it now. I mean, we're, we're, we're losing paved roads where we can have a race. I mean, even just watching, watching the two races in Europe last week, how, how many of 'em they have to go through these damn traffic circles? I mean, the, the last 10 kilometers are scary now cause there's a, there's a traffic circle every five blocks. [01:03:51] Track 1: Yeah, [01:03:52] steve: uh, all these, you know, the road furniture is just getting worse and worse. And that's been happening in the for years. You know, there's all sorts that had to be canceled just because of all the development and the traffic and road designs make it impossible. The road there anymore. [01:04:08] Track 1: yeah, [01:04:09] steve: mogul Bismark circuit outside of Boulder is just unable now. Because of all the traffic circles [01:04:16] Track 1: yeah. Um, Boulder's a very, boulder's a very particular place. Um, you've been there for how many years now? [01:04:25] steve: Uh, about 15. [01:04:27] Track 1: Yeah, uh, I haven't been going there quite that long, but, um, I did do the whole kind of dirt bag, private tier pro thing at one point. Um, so got to ride at a bunch of different places and obviously for my work, I'm traveling a fair amount and the, um, the number of strong riders you have where you are is pretty outstanding. It's kind of hard to go out on a ride and not cross paths with some past or current national champion or Olympian. Um, and you also have, um, unique in the US is some of the best bike infrastructure anywhere. And that actually to maybe we close up the conversation with, um, you know, you had talked about how. you know, we could say modal share, uh, the share of, uh, trips taken by bike or the number of bikes being sold, um, not just for recreation, but for utility. You know, e-bikes primarily fall into a utility, uh, space with the exception of, you know, some performance mountain bikes and so on. But the, uh, you were saying how Europe has seen far more adoption. Uh, what do you see as the differences between the European and US markets and, you know, the, the things that would have to happen here, uh, to see greater adoption of bicycles as a modality for, you know, not just, uh, enthusiast riders, but recreation and, and, you know, more importantly as a, I