Industry Relations with Rob Hahn and Greg Robertson

In this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg reflect on a recent panel discussion hosted by the Orange County Association of REALTORS®. They discuss the incentives that drive agent and broker behavior, the value and vulnerabilities of the MLS in a post-settlement world, and the broader structural changes facing the real estate industry. The first half of the conversation also includes a candid exchange on trades as a career path and the shifting economic landscape for young adults. Key Takeaways   MLS Incentive Structures – A deep dive into how policy changes have affected the incentive for brokers to remain in the MLS, especially with the decline of enforceable compensation. Broker Power and Consolidation – Why the largest brokerages may now have more incentive to operate independently of the MLS and what that means for smaller firms. Agent-Level Impact – Rob and Greg question whether large-scale policy debates truly affect everyday agents and argue that most industry drama doesn't change the work agents do. Panel Highlights – Reflections on a live panel with James Dwiggins and Ed Zorn, including audience reactions and a question: “What would you do if you ran NAR?” Compensation and Enforcement Post-Settlement – Analysis of how buyer-agent compensation continues through informal agreements and social norms, despite changes to MLS rules. Trades and Career Advice – A wide-ranging discussion on whether young people should consider skilled trades as an alternative to traditional college paths. Connect with Rob and Greg Rob's Website  Greg's Website  Watch us on YouTube! Our Sponsors: Cotality  Notorious VIP The Giant Steps Job Board    Production and Editing Services by Sunbound Studios

In this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg recap the 2025 NAR Midyear Meetings in Washington, D.C., discussing key industry developments, MLS policy changes, and behind-the-scenes dynamics. Topics include the repeal of the commingling ban, updates to NAR's controversial 10-5 speech policy, and ongoing MLS consolidation. They also cover vendor presence, association politics, and speculation around leadership changes in CMLS.   Key Takeaways   Compass “Protest” at Midyear – Greg recounts organizing a publicity stunt in front of Compass's hotel to promote Tuesday.com  Repeal of Co-mingling Ban – Discussion on how NAR's removal of the commingling restriction could impact listing syndication and MLS relevance. 10-5 Policy Changes – Rob and Greg unpack the revision of NAR's hate speech rule, its political implications, and the proposal for a “conduct unbecoming” clause. MLS Consolidation – A growing theme from the meetings was consolidation, with T3 data showing Bright MLS now leading in subscriber count. CMLS Leadership Transition – With Denee Evans stepping down, the episode explores possible successors and whether CMLS and RESO should consider a merger. Policy Governance Shifts – Signs point to NAR possibly stepping back from MLS policy-making, sparking conversation about which organization might take that role. Vendor and Trade Show Insights – Observations about reduced vendor presence and the challenges for newer tech companies trying to break into the space. Affordability and Market Outlook – Brief discussion on macro issues like tariffs, political shifts, and whether the real estate market is moving toward a buyer's market. LInks Rally for the MLS (video) ZillowGate Van   Connect with Rob and Greg Rob's Website https://notoriousrob.substack.com/ Greg's Website https://www.vendoralley.com/about-2/ Watch us on YouTube Our Sponsors: Cotality https://www.cotality.com/ Notorious VIP https://notoriousrob.substack.com The Giant Steps Job Board https://vendoralley.jobboard.io/   Production and Editing Services by Sunbound Studios

In this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg run a thought experiment: What if we're entering a true buyer's market? They walk through ten major industry topics—from antitrust litigation to portals, AI, and MLS relevance—and analyze how each might shift if buyers suddenly gained the upper hand. Along the way, they debate policy, technology, and market psychology, drawing connections between historical trends and current market signals. Watch us on YouTube!   Links The U.S. Housing Market Has Nearly 500,000 More Sellers Than Buyers—the Most on Record. That Will Likely Cause Home Prices to Fall   Key Takeaways   Antitrust & Legal Landscape – Discussion of how a buyer's market might (or might not) affect current and future antitrust lawsuits in real estate. Government Regulation – Exploration of potential political reactions, including pressure on corporate landlords, affordability policy, or even renewed interest in rent control. Tech-Enabled Brokerages – Examination of whether brokerages like Redfin, Compass, and eXp gain or lose advantage when the market shifts toward buyers. iBuyers & Institutional Activity – Rob and Greg assess whether a buyer's market helps or hurts companies like Opendoor and investor-focused strategies. Portals & Exclusive Inventory – Deep dive into how platforms like Zillow and Homes.com may adapt, and whether exclusive listings could gain ground. AI & Automation – Consideration of how AI could enable cheaper, more scalable buyer representation services—and who might benefit. Consumer Trust – Debate over whether a buyer's market could rebuild trust in the industry or simply reduce agent count, leaving higher-quality professionals. DIY Real Estate – Why self-service homebuying remains unlikely to surge, even with market power shifting toward buyers. Industry Consolidation – Prediction that competitive pressure could drive further brokerage and vendor consolidation. MLS & Association Relevance – Analysis of whether MLSs become more or less important in a buyer's market, especially in the context of exclusives and policy enforcement. Connect with Rob and Greg Rob's Website https://notoriousrob.substack.com/ Greg's Website https://www.vendoralley.com/about-2/ Our Sponsors: Cotality https://www.cotality.com/ Notorious VIP https://notoriousrob.substack.com The Giant Steps Job Board https://vendoralley.jobboard.io/   Production and Editing Services by Sunbound Studios

In this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg analyze Zillow's recently released ZLAS policy language and debate whether it reflects a shift in Zillow's priorities. They discuss the implications of allowing broker direct feeds, the enforcement challenges around delayed marketing, and whether Zillow's current stance can still be considered “consumer first.” The conversation also explores how MLSs and major brokerages are interpreting ZLAS and how this policy intersects with Clear Cooperation rules and VOW/IDX frameworks. Watch us on YouTube!   Links Howard Hanna in open rebellion against Clear Cooperation Policy - https://www.inman.com/2025/05/23/howard-hanna-in-open-rebellion-against-clear-cooperation-policy/ Zillow's ZLAS: Make Zillow Great Again - https://substack.com/home/post/p-164029933 Hoby Hanna don't like the rules - https://www.vendoralley.com/2025/05/27/hoby-hanna-dont-like-the-rules/ Key Takeaways Zillow's ZLAS Policy Language – The official policy now allows listings to be submitted via MLS or broker syndication feeds, raising questions about enforcement and intent. Broker Compliance and Enforcement – Rob and Greg explore whether Zillow has the capacity or systems in place to enforce ZLAS, and how it compares to MLS-style rule enforcement. Direct Broker Feeds as a Loophole – The inclusion of broker syndication feeds in the policy language could enable firms like Compass to bypass ZLAS restrictions. VOW vs. IDX Access – Discussion on how Zillow's VOW-powered listing visibility may conflict with its public consumer-first messaging. Local MLS Rule Conflicts – ZLAS policy explicitly overrides local MLS or state-level rules that allow extended delayed marketing, creating potential legal and operational conflicts. Marketplace Power Shift – Zillow's self-enforced policy is viewed as a signal of its growing authority in the real estate ecosystem, independent of MLS governance. Connect with Rob and Greg Rob's Website https://notoriousrob.substack.com/ Greg's Website https://www.vendoralley.com/about-2/ Our Sponsors: Cotality https://www.cotality.com/ Notorious VIP https://notoriousrob.substack.com The Giant Steps Job Board https://vendoralley.jobboard.io/   Production and Editing Services by Sunbound Studios

In this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg explore the idea of the elusive “end-to-end platform” in real estate. Prompted by Lower's acquisition of Movoto, they revisit decades of efforts by portals and brokerages to deliver a seamless transaction experience—from search to closing. They examine why this model has struggled to take hold in residential real estate, compare it to consumer experiences like Amazon and Tesla, and consider whether the real estate agent has always been the true end-to-end solution.   Key Takeaways   Lower Acquires Movoto – Discussion of the strategic rationale behind a mortgage company acquiring a real estate portal. Why End-to-End Platforms Struggle – Analysis of why Zillow, Redfin, and others have failed to deliver a fully integrated homebuying experience. The Agent as Platform – Debate over whether real estate agents already fulfill the role of a true end-to-end solution for consumers. Lessons from Other Industries – Examples from Amazon, Tesla, and travel that highlight the differences in consumer expectations and loyalty. Professional End-to-End Platforms – Exploration of whether a consolidated platform for agents—covering lead gen through payment—could be built, and what it would require. Tech Stack Attempts – Review of efforts by companies like Lone Wolf, Inside Real Estate, and MoxiWorks to build comprehensive agent-facing platforms.   Connect with Rob and Greg Rob's Website https://notoriousrob.substack.com/ Greg's Website https://www.vendoralley.com/about-2/ Our Sponsors: Cotality https://www.cotality.com/ Notorious VIP https://notoriousrob.substack.com The Giant Steps Job Board https://vendoralley.jobboard.io/   Production and Editing Services by Sunbound Studios

In this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg examine CoStar's recent announcement that Homes.com will boost listings banned on Zillow. They discuss whether this strategy is aimed at consumers or brokers, and whether it signals a broader battle for power in the real estate portal space. They also explore the potential implications of a proposed Illinois bill that would require public listing access by law, and debate what government involvement could mean for MLSs, agents, and listing distribution.   Watch us on YouTube!   Links: Homes.com will 'boost' listings that are banned on Zillow: Florance Don't Bring a Knife to a Gun Fight   Key Takeaways   Homes.com vs. Zillow – Discussion of CoStar's strategy to position Homes.com as a portal that accepts listings excluded by Zillow and what it means for brokers. Do Consumers Use Multiple Portals? – Rob explores whether buyers actually use more than one or two listing sites, and what that means for listing visibility. Government Involvement in Listing Policy – Analysis of an Illinois bill proposing mandatory public access for listings and the role of Zillow and NAHREP in backing it. Public Utility Debate for MLSs – Exploration of whether MLSs could be redefined as public utilities under new regulations. Housing Affordability and Political Risks – Rob and Greg discuss how affordability pressures and political narratives could shift public perception of agents, landlords, and listing control. Shifting to a Buyer's Market – Discussion of early signs that certain areas are flipping to buyer-favorable conditions and how that could affect pocket listings and strategy.   Connect with Rob and Greg Rob's Website https://notoriousrob.substack.com/ Greg's Website https://www.vendoralley.com/about-2/ Our Sponsors: Cotality https://www.cotality.com/ Notorious VIP https://notoriousrob.substack.com The Giant Steps Job Board https://vendoralley.jobboard.io/   Production and Editing Services by Sunbound Studios 

In this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg discuss the broader cultural trend of returning to physical, human-centered experiences amid rapid advances in technology and AI. They explore topics ranging from Compass's decision to print physical listing books to the rise of tabletop gaming, and examine whether real estate's resistance to full automation is part of a wider pushback against digital efficiency.   Key Takeaways   Printed Listing Books – Compass's return to printed materials prompts a discussion about whether real estate is experiencing a retro shift. AI in Real Estate – Speculation on how AI could replace or supplement agents, and whether efficiency should be the ultimate goal in real estate transactions. Cultural Nostalgia and Physical Experiences – The potential link between societal burnout from digital life and renewed interest in human interaction and analog tools. Efficiency vs. Connection – Ongoing tension in the industry between embracing high-efficiency tech and preserving the emotional, human elements of real estate.   Links Chris Saaca on Tim Ferris talking about AI https://x.com/tferriss/status/1918030245359165944   https://stratechery.com/2025/an-interview-with-meta-ceo-mark-zuckerberg-about-ai-and-the-evolution-of-social-media/   An interview with Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg About AI and the Evolution of Social media https://stratechery.com/2025/an-interview-with-meta-ceo-mark-zuckerberg-about-ai-and-the-evolution-of-social-media/   Compass "reimagine" MLS books. https://www.vendoralley.com/2025/05/01/compass-reimagines-mls-books/   Companion (Movie) https://www.justwatch.com/us/movie/companion-2025   Toby Robertson's CIBACS business (Senior Project) https://www.cyclesentrystickers.com Critical Role https://critrole.com/   Connect with Rob and Greg Rob's Website https://notoriousrob.substack.com/ Greg's Website https://www.vendoralley.com/about-2/ Our Sponsors: Cotality https://www.cotality.com/ Notorious VIP https://notoriousrob.substack.com The Giant Steps Job Board https://vendoralley.jobboard.io/   Production and Editing Services by Sunbound Studios 

In this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg explore the evolving definition of an “open market” in real estate. They discuss how consumer expectations, technology shifts, and the dominance of platforms like Zillow are reshaping what it means for a listing to be considered publicly available. The conversation also covers the historical role of the MLS, comparisons to other industries, and whether the industry should rethink its terminology to focus on “fair marketplaces” instead of “open marketplaces.” Key Takeaways   Definition of Open Market – Rob and Greg discuss the historical and modern interpretations of what constitutes an open market for real estate listings. MLS vs. Portals – Analysis of how MLS participation historically defined an open market and how that has shifted with the rise of Zillow and other portals. Consumer Behavior and Technology – Exploration of how changes in consumer behavior and technology have influenced the industry's definition of market openness. Fair Market vs. Open Market – Debate over whether “fair marketplace” would be a more accurate and useful term moving forward. Risks of Portal Dominance – Discussion on the risks associated with defining the open market based on a single platform's dominance. Connect with Rob and Greg Rob's Website https://notoriousrob.substack.com/ Greg's Website https://www.vendoralley.com/about-2/ Our Sponsors: Cotality https://www.cotality.com/ Notorious VIP https://notoriousrob.substack.com The Giant Steps Job Board https://vendoralley.jobboard.io/   Production and Editing Services by Sunbound Studios 

In this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg examine how changes to MLS rules, especially around delayed marketing and the Clear Cooperation Policy (CCP), are impacting portals, broker strategies, vendors, and the broader real estate ecosystem. They also explore the implications of the Rocket-Redfin merger, challenges for MLS public-facing websites, and what the new data policy landscape means for technology providers.   Key Takeaways • Portal Impact of CCP Changes – Rob and Greg analyze how platforms like Zillow, Redfin, Realtor.com, and Homes.com are adapting to rule changes. • Delayed Marketing and Public Portals – Discussion of how CCP affects MLS public-facing websites, particularly HAR and UtahRealEstate.com. • Vendor Challenges with VOW Feeds – Vendors may need to shift from IDX to VOW feeds, which are more costly and complex to implement. • Rocket-Redfin Merger – Examination of how Rocket's acquisition of Redfin could reshape brokerage models and mortgage integration. • Enforcement Variability – Insights into how different MLSs may interpret and enforce delayed marketing and cooperation rules. • Broker Website Tech – Consideration of how IDX and VOW data will influence broker sites and lead generation strategies moving forward. Connect with Rob and Greg Rob's Website https://notoriousrob.substack.com/ Greg's Website https://www.vendoralley.com/about-2/ Our Sponsors: Cotality https://www.cotality.com/ Notorious VIP https://notoriousrob.substack.com The Giant Steps Job Board https://vendoralley.jobboard.io/   Production and Editing Services by Sunbound Studios sunboundstudios.com

In this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg react to Zillow's announcement that listings violating the Clear Cooperation Policy (CCP) will no longer be allowed on its platform. They discuss how this move could impact private exclusives, delayed marketing strategies, and the role of major brokerages like Compass and eXp. They also explore how this policy could affect MLS governance and whether Zillow's position signals a shift in industry power. Key Takeaways Zillow's CCP Policy Enforcement – Listings that violate CCP by being publicly marketed before entering the MLS will be banned from Zillow. Impact on Compass's Strategy – The change could limit Compass's three-phase marketing model and influence future iterations. eXp's Public Support – Zillow's announcement included backing from eXp, raising questions about why other brokerages didn't join. MLS Power and Governance – Discussion on how Zillow's move challenges the authority of MLSs that have their own coming soon policies. Consumer Impact and Transparency – Debate over how the policy affects sellers, buyers, and the perceived openness of the listing marketplace. Watch Us on YouTube  Connect with Rob and Greg:  Rob's Website Greg's Website   Our Sponsors: Cotality Notorious VIP The Giant Steps Job Board   Production and Editing Services by Sunbound Studios

In this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg analyze the latest developments in the Clear Cooperation Policy (CCP) and its impact on brokerages, MLSs, and the industry at large. They also discuss how exclusive inventory strategies are reshaping competition, the DOJ's scrutiny of MLS policies, and what these shifts could mean for agents and consumers moving forward.   Key Takeaways • Clear Cooperation Policy (CCP) Developments – Updates on how MLSs and brokerages are adjusting to changes in CCP and what's next. • Exclusive Inventory Strategies – How brokerages are leveraging private listings to gain a competitive edge. • DOJ's Focus on MLS Rules – The Department of Justice's position on CCP and how it could impact industry regulations. • Brokerage Competition and Market Power – The role of large firms in shaping listing practices and potential consequences for smaller brokers. • Future of the Real Estate Marketplace – What shifts in policy and competition could mean for agents, buyers, and sellers. Watch Us on YouTube  Links: The Business Case for Exclusive Inventory Now what Compass?   Connect with Rob and Greg:  Rob's Website Greg's Website   Our Sponsors: Cotality Notorious VIP The Giant Steps Job Board   Production and Editing Services by Sunbound Studios

In this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg break down the big news about the Clear Cooperation Policy (CCP) and what its potential changes could mean for the future of real estate. They discuss the DOJ's ongoing investigation into NAR, the evolving landscape of MLS policies, and how major brokerages are responding. With key shifts on the horizon, they explore what these developments mean for agents, brokers, and the industry at large.   Key Takeaways • Clear Cooperation Policy (CCP) Under Fire – What the latest updates mean for listing practices and market transparency. • DOJ vs. NAR – Ongoing legal scrutiny and potential implications for how real estate operates. • MLS Policy Changes – How the rules around listing distribution may evolve and what it means for competition. • Brokerage Adaptation – How leading firms are adjusting to the shifting regulatory and policy landscape. • Industry Power Shifts – The role of leadership changes and legal actions in reshaping the real estate ecosystem.   Resources Agents feel joy, rage, confusion over Clear Cooperation ruling   Watch Us on YouTube    Connect with Rob and Greg:  Rob's Website Greg's Website   Our Sponsors: Cotality Notorious VIP The Giant Steps Job Board   Production and Editing Services by Sunbound Studios

**This podcast was recorded the Friday BEFORE the announcement from NAR on CCP** In this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg dissect the latest drama surrounding NAR's Clear Cooperation Policy (CCP), the DOJ's stance on MLS rules, and the future of PropTech in a shifting real estate landscape. They analyze how recent DOJ statements are being interpreted (or misinterpreted), debate whether the MLS still holds power over large brokerages, and discuss the potential consequences of a fragmented listing system. Key Takeaways • DOJ's Footnote Controversy: Did the DOJ “call out” misleading claims about CCP, or is the industry reading too much into a footnote? • The Power Struggle Over MLS Data: Rob argues large brokerages are taking control over listing distribution, while Greg questions whether MLSs still provide enough value to keep them in check. • The PropTech Dilemma: What happens to tools like CMAs, reverse prospecting, and analytics when listings become fragmented across private networks? • Compass's Playbook: Is Compass leading the charge toward a new listing system, or just using exclusive listings as a leverage play? • Enforcement vs. Policy: Greg insists MLS rules work because agents police each other, while Rob questions whether large firms can simply ignore the rules with no real consequences. Watch Us on YouTube    Connect with Rob and Greg:  Rob's Website Greg's Website   Our Sponsors: CoreLogic Notorious VIP The Giant Steps Job Board   Production and Editing Services by Sunbound Studios

In this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg break down three major real estate bombshells—the rumored Compass acquisition of Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices (BHHS), the Redfin-Rocket merger, and the potential shake-up of NAR's Clear Cooperation Policy (CCP). They discuss whether Compass is actually in talks with BHHS or if this is just Wall Street speculation, how Redfin and Rocket could disrupt the brokerage model, and why NAR might be making CCP optional to dodge legal liability.  Key Takeaways • Compass x BHHS Rumors: Wall Street Journal reported that Compass was acquiring BHHS—but BHHS CEO Gino Blefari strongly denied it. So what's the truth? • The Redfin-Rocket Power Move: Why Rocket's mortgage empire could turn Redfin into Zillow's biggest competitor—and how Respa exemptions give them an edge. • NAR's CCP Shake-Up: Is NAR making CCP optional just to shift legal liability onto MLSs? Rob and Greg debate whether this is NAR's “race to irrelevance.” • Does Warren Buffett Want Out of Real Estate?: If BHHS is actually up for sale, what does that say about the future of traditional brokerages? • How the MLS Landscape Could Change: If MLSs get to decide CCP for themselves, will we see regional MLS battles over compliance and cooperation?   Be the first to see the new app, Tuesday! Register here   Watch Us on YouTube    Connect with Rob and Greg:  Rob's Website Greg's Website   Our Sponsors: CoreLogic Notorious VIP The Giant Steps Job Board   Production and Editing Services by Sunbound Studios

In this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg tackle three major industry shake-ups: Gary Keller selling a stake in Keller Williams, REX losing its lawsuit against NAR and Zillow, and the launch of a new NAR alternative, AREA, by Mauricio Umansky and Jason Haber. They debate what these moves mean for the future of real estate, the ongoing battle over commission structures, and whether the DOJ's real target is the MLS monopoly. If you're looking for sharp analysis with a side of sarcasm, this episode delivers.   Key Takeaways • Keller Williams Goes Private Equity: Gary Keller sells a stake to Stone Point Capital—what does this mean for KW's future and private equity's role in real estate? • The Death of REX?: REX loses its lawsuit against Zillow and NAR. Was this just a bad case, or is the DOJ preparing to take a bigger swing? • AREA's New MLS Policy: Mauricio Umansky and Jason Haber's new NAR alternative introduces a Clear Collaboration Policy—but is it just a repackaged CCP? • DOJ's Real Endgame: Rob argues that the Department of Justice doesn't care about commission lawsuits—it's after MLS monopolies. • The Free Market MLS Debate: Should agents have multiple MLS options? Greg and Rob debate the risks and rewards of breaking up the monopoly. Watch Us on YouTube        Connect with Rob and Greg:  Rob's Website Greg's Website   Our Sponsors: CoreLogic Notorious VIP The Giant Steps Job Board   Production and Editing Services by Sunbound Studios

In this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg dive into the controversy surrounding dual agency, private networks, and the MLS's role in protecting small brokers. They break down the industry's long-standing acceptance of brokerage-level dual agency while questioning why teams are getting a pass. Plus, they debate whether Compass's push to double-end deals is just standard brokerage strategy—or an attempt to reshape the industry. If you want unfiltered takes on where real estate is headed, this episode is for you.   Key Takeaways • Is Brokerage Dual Agency Bad? Rob argues that the industry has historically supported it—so why the sudden outrage? • The Compass Controversy: Greg and Rob discuss whether Compass is playing the same game as everyone else or trying to blow up the MLS for its own benefit. • The Team Dual Agency Dilemma: Should teams be held to a different standard? Rob questions why brokerages get a pass but teams don't. • MLS Protection for Small Brokers: Rob suggests the MLS has always been designed to protect smaller brokerages—should that continue? • The Future of Private Listings: If brokers create exclusive networks, will they face lawsuits—or is that just scare tactics? Watch Us on YouTube    Connect with Rob and Greg:  Rob's Website Greg's Website   Our Sponsors: CoreLogic Notorious VIP The Giant Steps Job Board   Production and Editing Services by Sunbound Studios

In this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg break down the latest in the ongoing battle over NAR's three-way agreement and how Phoenix Realtors' recent compromise with NAR might reshape the industry. They explore whether this is a true win for NAR or just the beginning of a major shift, debating the rise of the “Freedom Plan” and how it could spread across the country. With bold predictions, deep industry insights, and a fair amount of sarcasm, this episode is a must-listen for anyone keeping an eye on real estate governance.   Key Takeaways • Phoenix Realtors' “Compromise”: Did they cave to NAR, or did they find a way to rewrite the rules on their own terms? • The Freedom Plan vs. Realtor Membership: How the rebranded “Non-Member MLS Access” could be the start of a larger movement. • Will Other Associations Follow?: If Phoenix can do it, why wouldn't Scottsdale and other local associations jump on board? • State Associations' Next Move: Will Arizona Realtors create their own version of the Freedom Plan to retain members? • Is the Three-Way Agreement Dead?: Rob argues that this move could mark the beginning of the end for NAR's traditional membership structure   Inman News: NAR, Phoenix Realtors settle fight over MLS Choice   Watch Us on YouTube    Connect with Rob and Greg:  Rob's Website Greg's Website   Our Sponsors: CoreLogic Notorious VIP The Giant Steps Job Board   Production and Editing Services by Sunbound Studios

Overview In this special live episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg broadcast from the Virtual MLS Summit, where they tackle one of the biggest questions in real estate today: What does “cooperation” mean in a post-settlement world? They explore how the industry's shift away from compensation impacts the role of MLSs, debate the long-standing relationship between brokerages and associations, and challenge whether MLSs should truly be considered “broker cooperatives.” This episode is packed with bold insights, historical context, and plenty of Rob vs. Greg fireworks.   Key Takeaways • The Evolution of Cooperation: With compensation no longer tied to MLS participation, what does cooperation actually mean now? • MLS Governance and Broker Control: If MLSs are broker cooperatives, why are associations still making the rules? • The Fiduciary Duty Dilemma: Can cooperation exist when agents owe full fiduciary duties to their clients? • The Government's Potential Role: If the industry doesn't self-regulate effectively, will federal regulators step in and take over? • Lessons from Global Real Estate: Why other countries envy the U.S. MLS system—and what we risk losing if we dismantle it. Watch Us on YouTube    Connect with Rob and Greg:  Rob's Website Greg's Website   Our Sponsors: CoreLogic Notorious VIP The Giant Steps Job Board   Production and Editing Services by Sunbound Studios

In this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg dive into one of the most heated debates yet—was NAR's fight for survival a necessary battle, or did it do more harm than good? They analyze the fallout from the settlement, discuss the rise of leaders like Michelle Harrington who are ditching corporate-speak for real talk, and debate whether NAR should have surrendered years ago to avoid the lawsuits entirely.   Key Takeaways • Michelle Harrington's Blunt Truths: The First Team CEO calls the settlement “bulls***,” and Rob and Greg love her authenticity. • Corporate-Speak vs. Real Talk: Why real estate leaders should ditch the PR fluff and embrace straight-shooting communication. • The $2 Billion Club Controversy: Why independent brokerages feel abandoned and how the settlement exposed them to legal threats. • Should NAR Have Surrendered in 2018? Rob argues they could have avoided everything if they had just given in earlier. Greg pushes back. • Zombie Members or Hostages? Rob says NAR fought to protect dues from disengaged agents. Greg insists they were an opportunity, not a liability.   Inman story on FirstTeam CEO, Michelle Harrington; "A broker left out of NAR settlement gets candid: 'I'm still pissed'" Todd Carpenter's LinkedIn post on "Zombie members vs. Super members" Rob Substack, "Between Black Pill and White Pill"   Watch Us on YouTube    Connect with Rob and Greg:  Rob's Website Greg's Website   Our Sponsors: CoreLogic Notorious VIP The Giant Steps Job Board   Production and Editing Services by Sunbound Studios

In this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg recap Greg's recent MLS Reset conference and dive into key industry insights. They discuss governance reform, competition between MLSs, data sharing agreements, and bold ideas for innovation in the real estate world. From pitch battles for tech innovation to thought-provoking commentary on leadership, this episode offers plenty of takeaways for industry professionals. Key Takeaways • MLS Reset Conference Recap: Greg shares highlights, including impactful presentations by Brian Boero, Michael Wurzer, and Curt Beardsley, Ben Graboske, who challenged the industry to embrace optimism. • Governance Reform: Rob emphasizes the importance of reducing board sizes and increasing nimbleness • Data Sharing and Competition: Rob and Greg debate whether MLSs should compete on services, price, and tech while maintaining data-sharing agreements. • Source MLS Branding: A conversation on Michael Wurzer's Source MLS concept as a trusted, transparent data brand.   Watch Us on YouTube    Connect with Rob and Greg:  Rob's Website Greg's Website   Our Sponsors: CoreLogic Notorious VIP The Giant Steps Job Board   Production and Editing Services by Sunbound Studios

In this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg navigate the fallout from key legal decisions and the broader implications for the real estate industry. They analyze the Supreme Court's denial of NAR's cert petition, its potential effects on DOJ actions, and how shifting dynamics—such as commission lawsuits and housing market pressures—might reshape the landscape. The conversation also previews upcoming events and industry challenges that will define the next chapter of real estate.   Key Takeaways • Supreme Court Denies NAR's Petition: What this decision means for DOJ's antitrust investigations and future legal battles. • Commission Lawsuits Continue: Why the litigation isn't over and what could come next, including potential first-time homebuyer class actions. • DOJ's Goals: Rob and Greg speculate on what the Department of Justice ultimately wants for the real estate industry, including reducing transaction fees. • Housing Market Pressures: Rising costs, insurance challenges, and inventory shifts, including their impact on rentals and sales. • Upcoming Events: The MLS Reset Conference and the first-ever Industry Relations live stream scheduled for February 7th.   Watch Us on YouTube    Connect with Rob and Greg:  Rob's Website Greg's Website   Our Sponsors: CoreLogic Notorious VIP The Giant Steps Job Board   Production and Editing Services by Sunbound Studios

In this thought-provoking episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg explore the seismic changes shaking up the real estate world as Phoenix Realtors challenge the NAR three-way agreement. They delve into the implications of member-driven value propositions, whether NAR can reinvent itself, and the ongoing debate over what truly inspires and retains Realtor memberships. The conversation is a deep dive into the challenges and opportunities ahead for the industry. Key Takeaways • Phoenix Realtors' Bold Move: The Phoenix Association's MLS Choice Program creates a potential watershed moment, questioning the viability of NAR's three-way agreement. • Membership Value Propositions: Rob and Greg discuss the importance of offering concrete benefits to agents versus relying solely on advocacy or inspiration. • NAR's Leadership Challenge: Speculation on whether high-profile leadership, such as a celebrity figure, could transform NAR's narrative and mission. • The Future of Realtor Memberships: Exploring voluntary membership models and the need for NAR to rethink its approach to retaining and attracting agents. • Big Questions for 2025: What does it take for an agent to see NAR membership as a must-have in a post-Phoenix world?   Watch Us on YouTube    Connect with Rob and Greg:  Rob's Website Greg's Website   Our Sponsors: CoreLogic Notorious VIP The Giant Steps Job Board   Production and Editing Services by Sunbound Studios

In this final episode of the year, Rob and Greg deliver their predictions for 2025, exploring how the real estate industry will evolve. They tackle everything from transaction volumes and mortgage rates to the fate of MLSs and the potential unraveling of the three-way agreement. Along the way, they discuss societal trends, like the importance of community and the role associations can play in bringing people together, while reflecting on industry dynamics and the future of key players like Realtor.com and Compass.   Key Takeaways • Predictions for 2025: Rob and Greg forecast transaction numbers, mortgage rates, home prices, and the biggest M&A moves. • The Fate of MLSs: Discussion on whether MLSs will remain relevant or adapt to changing times. • Unraveling the Three-Way Agreement: The potential impact of associations like Phoenix breaking away from NAR. • The Importance of Community: Inspired by the book Bowling Alone and the documentary Join or Die, they discuss how associations can evolve to foster better connections. • Major Industry Moves: Speculation on Realtor.com's next big acquisition and predictions around mergers like Bright MLS and Stellar MLS.   Bowling Alone Book Join or Die Movie   Watch Us on YouTube    Connect with Rob and Greg:  Rob's Website Greg's Website   Our Sponsors: CoreLogic Notorious VIP The Giant Steps Job Board   Production and Editing Services by Sunbound Studios

In this Industry Relations episode, Rob and Greg reflect on the pivotal events of 2024, dubbing it “The Year of the Settlement.” They analyze the seismic shifts in real estate, including the impact of high-interest rates, low inventory, NAR's declining influence, and the ripple effects of major lawsuits. The duo also previews what these changes could mean for 2025 and beyond, setting the stage for a new era in real estate.   Key Takeaways • 2024: A Year of Change: Why the settlement and other industry events signal the dawn of Real Estate 3.0. • NAR's Decline: The fallout from scandals and lawsuits has shifted perceptions of NAR as an industry powerhouse. • Housing Market Woes: High-interest rates and inventory challenges persist, affecting transactions and industry morale. • The CCP Debate: Controversy surrounding Clear Cooperation Policy continues to evolve, with implications for the future of MLSs. • Compass's Moves: The acquisition of @properties and its strategy around private exclusives sparks debate.   Washington Post CCP Article   Watch Us on YouTube    Connect with Rob and Greg:  Rob's Website Greg's Website   Our Sponsors: CoreLogic Notorious VIP The Giant Steps Job Board   Production and Editing Services by Sunbound Studios

In this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg tackle the latest controversies surrounding NAR  and the recent investigative article from The New York Times. They debate the role of lobbying, explore accusations of corruption and financial mismanagement, and reflect on the broader challenges facing NAR's leadership and reputation. Key Takeaways • NAR and Lobbying Controversy: Discussion on how NAR funnels money to political groups through entities like the American Property Owners Alliance (APOA). • The “Woke vs. Conservative” Debate: Examining NAR's conflicting image as both progressive and a supporter of conservative causes. • Transparency Issues: Why NAR's approach to handling controversies feels “astroturfy” and the need for more open dialogue with members. • Organizing Homeowners: The untapped potential of grassroots homeowner advocacy and how it could reshape lobbying strategies. • PR Missteps: Criticism of NAR's traditional PR playbook and a call for leadership to adopt more authentic communication strategies.   Watch Us on YouTube    Connect with Rob and Greg:  Rob's Website Greg's Website   Our Sponsors: CoreLogic Notorious VIP The Giant Steps Job Board   Production and Editing Services by Sunbound Studios

Overview In this special episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg welcome economist and author Professor Bryan Caplan to discuss his latest book, Build Baby Build: The Science and Ethics of Housing Regulation. The trio dives into the housing crisis, exploring how deregulation could address affordability, inequality, and other societal issues. Bryan's insights challenge conventional thinking, offering bold solutions for the future of housing.   Key Takeaways • Core Argument: Bryan argues that excessive housing regulations have driven up costs, stifled innovation, and exacerbated inequality, advocating for widespread deregulation. • The 50% Reduction Claim: Deregulation could halve housing prices nationwide by enabling construction and reducing bureaucratic hurdles. • NIMBYism and Local Politics: Local resistance to development, often driven by fear and misinformation, remains a significant barrier to solving the housing crisis. • Economic and Social Benefits: Lower housing costs could address issues like inequality, mobility, and declining birth rates, while also improving quality of life. • Role of Realtors: Real estate professionals and associations could play a pivotal role in advocating for deregulation to increase housing supply and affordability.   Watch Us on YouTube   Check out Bryan's amazing graphic novel: Build Baby Build: The Science and Ethics of Housing Regulation   Connect with Rob and Greg:  Rob's Website Greg's Website   Our Sponsors: CoreLogic Notorious VIP The Giant Steps Job Board   Production and Editing Services by Sunbound Studios

Episode Summary: In this episode, Rob and Greg tackle the latest developments in the housing market and its broader implications for real estate professionals. From dissecting the DOJ's recent moves to exploring how transactions and home prices define market strength, the duo brings sharp insights and engaging commentary to these critical topics.   Discussion Highlights: • DOJ's Statement of Interest: What it means for buyer agreements and competition in the real estate market. • Market Metrics Debate: Rob questions whether housing market health should be based on transactions and sales volume rather than just home prices. • Affordability and Transactions: The ongoing challenges of affordability and declining transaction volumes in shaping the housing landscape. • Broker Challenges: Navigating regulatory uncertainties and adapting to evolving DOJ scrutiny. • Future Predictions: Speculating on the DOJ's next steps and potential impacts on real estate practices.   Key Takeaways: • The DOJ aims to promote competition, with specific attention on transparency and buyer agreements. • Home prices and transaction volumes tell different stories about market strength. • Brokers and agents face significant uncertainty as they adapt to legal and market changes. • The need for consumer awareness and transparency remains central to the evolving real estate industry.   Watch us on YouTube!   Connect with Rob and Greg:  Rob's Website Greg's Website   Our Sponsors:  CoreLogic Notorious VIP The Giant Steps Job Board   This podcast is produced by Sunbound Studios

Episode Summary: In this timely episode In this timely episode (recorded Monday, November 25), Rob and Greg dive deep into the DOJ's recent statement of interest in the Burnett settlement. They break down the key points raised, including the potential antitrust concerns surrounding the requirement for buyers to sign agreements before home tours and the broader implications for real estate brokers and agents.   The discussion highlights: • The DOJ's clarification that compliance with the NAR settlement does not shield brokers or agents from future antitrust actions. • Concerns about how the buyer agreement provision could stifle competition and negatively impact consumers. • Speculation on the DOJ's broader strategy and its potential impact on real estate practices, including commissions and agent-broker dynamics. • The challenges brokers face in navigating conflicting legal and regulatory signals.   Key Takeaways: • Brokers and agents must carefully navigate the evolving legal landscape, balancing compliance with the settlement and potential DOJ actions. • The DOJ's intervention signals its readiness to continue scrutinizing real estate practices, including beyond the terms of the settlement. • Transparency and adaptability will be critical for real estate professionals moving forward. Watch us on YouTube! Vendor Alley:  DOJ files eleventh hour statement of interest in Sitzer/Burnett Case Rob's Substack: A Look at the DOJ's Statement re: NAR Settlement   Connect with Rob and Greg:  Rob's Website Greg's Website   Our Sponsors:  CoreLogic Notorious VIP The Giant Steps Job Board   This podcast is produced by Sunbound Studios

In this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg dive into the latest developments in the real estate world, focusing on leadership, membership dynamics, and the challenges facing NAR in 2024. They engage in a spirited debate about leadership priorities, assessing Nykia Wright's tenure as CEO, and what it takes to steer an organization during turbulent times. Key Takeaways • Leadership Dynamics: A breakdown of the responsibilities and criticisms of Nykia Wright's first year as CEO of NAR. • Membership Retention: Insights into how NAR has managed to retain members despite controversies and lawsuits. • Strategic Decisions: Examining the impact of the $2 billion broker club's fallout and the decisions leading up to it. • Action vs. Inaction: Rob and Greg debate what constitutes effective leadership and the significance of visible actions vs. behind-the-scenes work. • Surveys & Communication: The role of member surveys and communication in understanding and addressing organizational challenges.   Watch Us on YouTube   Connect with Rob and Greg:  Rob's Website Greg's Website   Our Sponsors: CoreLogic Notorious VIP The Giant Steps Job Board   Production and Editing Services by Sunbound Studios

  Greg just landed back home from NAR Boston and Rob is curious to what insights he learned.  Greg's main insight is that he isn't as young as he once was. 1.  Election Impact on Real Estate: • Rob and Greg delve into the recent election results, exploring how potential changes in government could impact HUD and real estate policies. • Debate on the future leadership of HUD and the potential impacts on the industry. 2. National Association of Realtors (NAR) Conference Recap: • Greg shares insights from the recent NAR conference, touching on the atmosphere post-election and key sessions he attended. • Discussion about attendee sentiment, especially regarding political and economic concerns within the real estate industry. 3. MLS (Multiple Listing Service) & CCP Discussions: • The episode dives deep into the complexities of MLS structures, with Greg suggesting a “domino effect” that could lead to significant industry shifts if CCP (Clear Cooperation Policy) and co-mingling rules were altered. • Speculations on Zillow's role in the MLS space, its motivations, and how upcoming changes might benefit or challenge existing MLS structures. 4. NAR's Controversial Communication: • The hosts criticize NAR's handling of sensitive topics, including CCP discussions, arguing for more transparency and authenticity in its public communications. 5. MLS Independence and Potential Changes: • Rob and Greg discuss the possibility and challenges of MLS organizations operating independently of NAR. • Debate around whether separating from NAR could lead to more effective and regionally responsive MLS services. 6. Event Announcements: • Promotion of the upcoming “MLS Reset Conference” in Arizona (January 2025), organized by Greg and colleagues, aimed at exploring the future of MLS and real estate industry evolution and the Clariety25 Conference in February. Watch us on YouTube!   Operating Cash Flow for  REA Group (Australia) from Mike Deplete How much does U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development in the United States pay?     Connect with Rob and Greg:  Rob's Website Greg's Website   Our Sponsors:  CoreLogic Notorious VIP The Giant Steps Job Board   This podcast is produced by Sunbound Studios

Episode Overview Rob and Greg explore how the upcoming election could reshape the real estate industry, focusing on regulatory impacts, DOJ actions, and antitrust issues. They also discuss potential changes to industry practices and transparency in agent behavior. Key Topics 1. Election Predictions: • Friendly wager on election outcomes, with predictions on how results could shift real estate policies, especially through DOJ and FTC actions. 2. Antitrust Settlement and NAR Challenges: • Tanya Monestier's objections to the recent antitrust settlement, highlighting concerns over consumer confusion and potential loopholes that could benefit attorneys over consumers. 3. Future of Industry Regulation: • Speculation on how political shifts might influence NAR's regulatory environment and broker responsibilities. • The potential for new, transparent compensation practices led by industry figures like James Dwiggins. 4. Ethics and Agent Behavior: • Debate over real estate agent intentions, balancing consumer interests with profit motives, and the industry's response to Monestier's critiques. Key Takeaways • Election's Influence on Real Estate: Election outcomes may bring regulatory changes, with possible implications for NAR and antitrust enforcement. • Transparency and Trust in Agent Practices: Increased focus on clear buyer agreements and ethical practices to protect consumer trust. Watch Us on YouTube  Our Sponsors CoreLogic Notorious VIP The Giant Steps Job Board Production and editing services by: Sunbound Studios

Overview: Rob and Greg talk with Jack Miller, CEO of T360, about the recently released “Opportunity Report” and its significance for the real estate industry. The discussion focuses on how real estate leaders can navigate current challenges and seize opportunities in the face of regulatory changes, declining transaction volume, and industry consolidation.   Key Topics:   1. The Opportunity Report: • A newly released report from T360, available for free at theopportunityreport.com. • Provides a 100-page analysis of risks and opportunities in the real estate industry. • Includes insights from over 50 industry leaders on how to approach challenges in the current market. 2. The Role of the MLS: • Jack emphasizes the importance of the MLS as a marketing and data platform, even without mandatory compensation rules. • MLS consolidation is expected, with strong MLSs providing more value to their users. 3. Legal and Regulatory Pressures: • The real estate industry is under scrutiny from the DOJ and faces multiple lawsuits. • These challenges present an opportunity for brokerages and MLSs to innovate and improve transparency. 4. Future of Associations: • Jack discusses the potential for separating MLS and Realtor associations and restructuring governance. • Associations need to adapt and provide more value beyond just MLS access to remain relevant. 5. Opportunities in a Challenging Market: • Jack urges leaders to lean into change and view the current market as a chance to innovate and grow. • The report highlights that companies that embrace change during tough times can emerge stronger.   Watch us on YouTube!   Reach Out: Jack Miller on LinkedIN Download the Opportunity Report at theopportunityreport.com.     Connect with Rob and Greg:  Rob's Website Greg's Website   Our Sponsors:  CoreLogic Notorious VIP The Giant Steps Job Board   This podcast is produced by Sunbound Studios

In the latest episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg venture into a thought-provoking discussion about disaster preparedness and self-reliance. While they typically focus on real estate, this episode broadens the scope, offering practical insights on how to be ready for unexpected emergencies like natural disasters or social unrest.   Rob, who has fully embraced the prepper lifestyle, breaks down the importance of planning for short-term disasters, emphasizing the need for essential supplies like water, food, and basic medical skills. Rather than “bugging out” or fleeing, he encourages listeners to “bug in” — stay at home and rely on their community to survive. He also highlights the critical role of knowing your neighbors, as they can become your greatest resource in a crisis. This episode offers valuable advice on building self-sufficiency, from securing food and water to handling emergency situations and even touches on the significance of physical fitness during a crisis. Greg engages Rob with questions that bring out relatable and practical tips for urban and suburban listeners alike. Whether you're curious about survival strategies or just want to hear some down-to-earth insights on real-world preparedness, this episode is packed with useful takeaways.   Watch us on YouTube!   LifeStraw - Personal Water Filter for Hiking Children and teens are more liking to die from guns than anything else. Stop The Bleed Spam - Pack of 12 Surviveware First Aid Kit Israeli Battle Dressing Compression Bandage     Connect with Rob and Greg:  Rob's Website Greg's Website   Our Sponsors:  CoreLogic Notorious VIP The Giant Steps Job Board   This podcast is produced by Sunbound Studios

It seems everyone in the industry is still obsessed with CCP.  Rob and Greg are no different.  The show starts off with Rob giving Greg some advice on his upcoming client meetings, but quickly shifts to the recent back and forth about CCP.  Greg thinks that industry players like Compass CEO Robert Reffkin to stop spreading misinformation about MLS.  Rob says there is blame on both sides.  Things get interesting from there.   Watch us on YouTube!   Connect with Rob and Greg:  Rob's Website Greg's Website   Our Sponsors:  CoreLogic Notorious VIP The Giant Steps Job Board   This podcast is produced by Sunbound Studios

Many people don't know or understand NAR's PDAP.  PDAP stands for Participant Data Access Policy.  And PDAP is at the heart of today's episode. Rob and Greg dive deep into the topic of who actually owns MLS data. The answer, as it turns out, really depends on who you ask. But we're living in a new world where private MLS ownership is becoming a reality, and also what are those second order consquences?  Greg also catches up with Rob about Rob's meetings with brokers and their opinions on MLS data ownership—spoiler alert: they think they do. It's a thought-provoking discussion that may raise more questions than answers. Watch us on YouTube! Section 18. Right of Participant to MLS Data Feed of Listing Content (Policy Statement 8.3) Rob's latest Substack :  Why the Data Ownership Thing Worries Me South Park Human Centipede Episode   Connect with Rob and Greg:  Rob's Website Greg's Website   Our Sponsors:  CoreLogic Notorious VIP The Giant Steps Job Board   This podcast is produced by Sunbound Studios

After missing a recording last week (due to travel schedules) the boys are back with another jammed pack episode of Industry Relations.  In this week's episode Rob and Greg discuss recent Blueprint conference in Las Vegas, CMLS 2024 in Seattle and REColorado new subscriber agreement.  And they sprinkle a little CCP talking points just for good measure. Watch us on YouTube!   Pictures of Greg's sister, Pilar, winning her own award Pictures of Greg presenting at CMLS 2024 HousingWire post on REColorado acquisition Greg's take on Rob Reffkin's CMLS 2024 interview   Connect with Rob and Greg:  Rob's Website Greg's Website   Our Sponsors:  CoreLogic Notorious VIP The Giant Steps Job Board This podcast is produced by Sunbound Studios

On this episode of Industry Relations Rob and I discuss, for what seems to be the 17th time, the current rumors about the Clear Cooperation Policy. Rob recently posted on few thoughts on the subject and a few solutions to what seems to have the entire industry tied up in knots.  What we soon realize is that there are no easy answers. Watch us on YouTube! Connect with Rob and Greg:  Rob's Website Greg's Website Our Sponsors:  CoreLogic Notorious VIP The Giant Steps Job Board This podcast is produced by Sunbound Studios

Rob and Greg are back to their regularly scheduled broadcast!  The episode includes discussion on Landian, the new “a la carte” brokerage launched by Josh Sitzer, yes, that Sitzer.  Rob discusses his recent Sub Stack post on “Amara's Law and Real Estate” and how we shouldn't read too much in to how things are going with the NAR settlement.  The boys also discuss online dating, new business models, capitalism and agent count.  But somehow they bring it all together.  Watch us on You Tube!   Connect with Rob and Greg:  Rob's Website Greg's Website   Our Sponsors:  CoreLogic Notorious VIP The Giant Steps Job Board   This podcast is produced by Sunbound Studios

Greg joins Rob from Chicago where he was attending NAR's iOi Summit.  Greg gives his experience of being at the iOi Summit and discusses the pitch battle and his favorite new app, Tuesday, and its founder Cole Boyer who won "Crowd Favorite". They go on to discuss NAR's decision to appoint Nykia Wright as their new CEO and if experience in organized real estate or connections in Washington D.C. really matter.  As you can imgaine Greg and Rob have different opinions. They finish with discussing the ongoing rumors of the fate of Clear Cooperation Policy (CCP), a.k.a. "The Ocho".  It's a fun one! Watch us on YouTube!   Connect with Rob and Greg:  Rob's Website Greg's Website   Our Sponsors:  CoreLogic Notorious VIP The Giant Steps Job Board   This podcast is produced by Sunbound Studios

Rob and Greg teamed up with James Dwiggins and Keith Robinson from the Real Estate Insiders Unfiltered podcast during the recent Inman Connect Las Vegas event. From the complexities of forms and commission sharing, to the pros and cons of state association forms, the guys got into it.   They explored the potential for conspiracy charges in a post-settlement world and discussed the unintended consequences of recent MLS changes.   They also tackled determining property value without compensation data, the future of buyer agent compensation models, and how portals are shaping the market. Sharing valuable insights on agent responsiveness and the evolving landscape of mega teams and super agents.   Plus, how AI is transforming the search experience and the persistent challenge of housing affordability.   Follow Real Estate Insiders Unfiltered Podcast on Instagram - YouTube - Facebook - LinkedIn - TikTok. Visit us online at realestateinsidersunfiltered.com.   Listen to the Industry Relations Podcast across all podcast platforms! Find, buy and protect the homes you love with CoreLogic. Listen to the podcast on Apple Listen to the podcast on Stitcher Connect with Rob and Greg:  Rob's Website Greg's Website Our Sponsors:  Notorious VIP This podcast is produced by Two Brothers Creative 2024.

Are you up to date on the recent changes in MLS rules and buyer agency agreements? In this episode, Rob and Greg dive into the controversy surrounding these updates and discuss the ethical implications for agents. From forgery to enforcement, confusion to challenges, this conversation covers a lot of ground. They shed light on the need for a substantive approach to reform in the real estate industry, while addressing the loss of trust between practitioners and those making the rules. With potential compression of commissions and uncertainty about the future of the industry, transparency and strong leadership are more important than ever. Don't miss this insightful discussion on ethics and transparency in communication within the real estate world. Listen to the Industry Relations Podcast across all podcast platforms! Find, buy and protect the homes you love with CoreLogic.   Follow this link to subscribe to Industry Relations YouTube page Listen to the podcast on Apple Listen to the podcast on Spotify Connect with Rob and Greg:  Rob's Website Greg's Website Our Sponsors:  CoreLogic Notorious VIP This podcast is produced by Two Brothers Creative 2024.

Are you a real estate broker or agent grappling with the NAR settlement's requirement for written buyer agreements before showings? Rob and Greg dive deep into the controversy, debating the pros and cons of charging clients and exploring the potential consequences of non-compliance. They also discuss the evolving role of listing agents, the ethical dilemmas of dual agency, and the challenges of enforcing the new rules.  Link to Melissa from Twitter Listen to the Industry Relations Podcast, available on all podcast platforms! Find, buy and protect the homes you love with CoreLogic.   Follow this link to subscribe to Industry Relations YouTube page Listen to the podcast on Apple Listen to the podcast on Spotify Connect with Rob and Greg:  Rob's Website Greg's Website Our Sponsors:  CoreLogic Notorious VIP This podcast is produced by Two Brothers Creative 2024.

The August 17th deadline is almost here, and the industry is abuzz with talk of potential changes to MLSs and associations. Rob and Greg discuss the latest developments in the NAR settlement with the DOJ and its potential impact on compensation models, forms, and client relationships. With disruption looming, they delve into the hot topic of buyer agent commissions and agreements, as well as how to continue demonstrating value to clients in this ever-changing landscape.    Listen to the Industry Relations Podcast, available on all podcast platforms!   Find, buy and protect the homes you love with CoreLogic.   Follow this link to subscribe to Industry Relations YouTube page Listen to the podcast on Apple Listen to the podcast on Spotify Connect with Rob and Greg:  Rob's Website Greg's Website Our Sponsors:  CoreLogic Notorious VIP This podcast is produced by Two Brothers Creative 2024.

What happens when industry news is quiet? Industry soup. In this episode, Rob and Greg discuss various topics with an effort to draw parallels to real estate. From their weight loss strategies and detailed plan for a 60-day weight loss regimen to Tesla cars and the emotional connection people have with their vehicles. This conversation covers a lot.    Touching on simplicity in design and analog experiences in a tech-driven world. Rob and Greg explore the potential future of technology and the importance of human interaction in both real estate and tech companies.    Listen to the Industry Relations Podcast, available on all podcast platforms!   Find, buy and protect the homes you love with CoreLogic.   Follow this link to subscribe to Industry Relations YouTube page Listen to the podcast on Apple Listen to the podcast on Spotify Connect with Rob and Greg:  Rob's Website Greg's Website Our Sponsors:  CoreLogic Notorious VIP This podcast is produced by Two Brothers Creative 2024.

Are real estate forms truly consumer-friendly or are they just industry-driven? In this episode, Doug Miller and Wendy Gilch, Directors of CAARE (Consumer Advocates in American Real Estate), expose what they believe are the flaws in the current buyer agency agreements. From undisclosed dual agency to lack of cancellation clauses, these forms often prioritize the interests of industry competitors over consumers.    Rob, Greg, Doug and Wendy explore potential solutions such as creating consumer-friendly templates and implementing amendments. They dive into the complexities of fiduciary responsibility and touch on hot-button topics like compensation and collusion.    Plus, they address the importance of clear disclosure in real estate transactions, education for consumers, and informed consent. Don't miss this crucial conversation also covering NAR settlement, state forms vs eXp's form, unauthorized practice of law, referral fees, and negotiation tactics. Learn more about CAARE at caare.org.   Connect with Doug Miller on - LinkedIn. Connect with Wendy on - LinkedIn.   Listen to the Industry Relations Podcast, available on all podcast platforms!   Find, buy and protect the homes you love with CoreLogic.   Follow this link to subscribe to Industry Relations YouTube page Listen to the podcast on Apple Listen to the podcast on Spotify Connect with Rob and Greg:  Rob's Website Greg's Website Our Sponsors:  CoreLogic Notorious VIP This podcast is produced by Two Brothers Creative 2024.

The recent acquisition of REcolorado by private equity firm GI Partners has sent shockwaves through the real estate industry. In this episode, Rob and Greg discuss the history of MLS privatization and the tensions between associations and MLSs. They shine a light on the lack of member control and power dynamics within the industry, exposing important truths about data ownership.    This is a red pill moment for brokers and agents as they realize the potential risks and benefits of private equity ownership of MLSs. The duo also discuss the trend of decoupling and its potential impact on the MLS and realtor associations. Are realtor associations truly serving brokers and agents in their local communities? Is it time for them to consider their value proposition and even potentially sell off their MLS?    Listen to the Industry Relations Podcast, available on all podcast platforms!   Find, buy and protect the homes you love with CoreLogic.   Follow this link to subscribe to Industry Relations YouTube page Listen to the podcast on Apple Listen to the podcast on Spotify Connect with Rob and Greg:  Rob's Website Greg's Website Our Sponsors:  CoreLogic Notorious VIP This podcast is produced by Two Brothers Creative 2024.

Are you confused about the new MLS policy on commission disclosures and concessions? In this thought-provoking discussion, Rob and Greg dive into the challenges and potential solutions for agents and brokers. Learn about the ethical considerations involved in disclosing commissions to clients and renegotiating buyer agency agreements.    Plus, gain insights into the role of MLS in regulating concessions and why further education is crucial. Don't miss out on this must-watch conversation that seeks to shed light on a controversial topic.    Share your thoughts and join the conversation by leaving a comment! And let us know if you would like to see future episodes in a live stream format. #MLSpolicy #commissiondisclosures #concessions #ethicsinrealestate #education #livestream Listen to the Industry Relations Podcast, available on all podcast platforms!   Find, buy and protect the homes you love with CoreLogic.   Follow this link to subscribe to Industry Relations YouTube page Listen to the podcast on Apple Listen to the podcast on Spotify Connect with Rob and Greg:  Rob's Website Greg's Website Our Sponsors:  CoreLogic Notorious VIP This podcast is produced by Two Brothers Creative 2024.

Are you struggling to understand the NAR settlement agreement and its implications for real estate transactions? Joining us in this thought-provoking episode is Ed Zorn, VP & General Counsel for CRMLS. Rob, Greg, and Ed talk about the disconnect between NAR's understanding and other lawyers' interpretations, and what it means for brokers and agents. They dive into topics such as the risk of coordinated action, liability concerns, and the role of MLSs in enforcing rules.    They also discuss the concessions field in MLS listings and its potential impact on real estate transactions. This episode is packed with valuable insights on how to avoid potential pitfalls and stay compliant in this ever-changing landscape.   Listen to the Industry Relations Podcast, available on all podcast platforms!   Find, buy and protect the homes you love with CoreLogic.   Follow this link to subscribe to Industry Relations YouTube page Listen to the podcast on Apple Listen to the podcast on Spotify Connect with Rob and Greg:  Rob's Website Greg's Website Our Sponsors:  CoreLogic Notorious VIP This podcast is produced by Two Brothers Creative 2024.

You may have heard the recent statements made by Michael Ketchmark regarding the NAR settlement, but do you really understand the implications for offers of compensation?In this episode, Rob and Greg discuss the recent statements made by Michael Ketchmark regarding the NAR settlement. They analyze the settlement agreement and try to understand the implications for offers of compensation. They explore different interpretations of the agreement and the potential legal actions that could be taken.    They also address the introduction of concession fields in MLS listings and the possibility of offering compensation off the MLS. Don't miss out on this important conversation that highlights the need for clarity and communication from NAR to its members.   Listen to the Industry Relations Podcast, available on all podcast platforms!   Find, buy and protect the homes you love with CoreLogic.   Follow this link to subscribe to Industry Relations YouTube page Listen to the podcast on Apple Listen to the podcast on Spotify Connect with Rob and Greg:  Rob's Website Greg's Website Our Sponsors:  CoreLogic Notorious VIP This podcast is produced by Two Brothers Creative 2024.

Have you been keeping up with the latest updates in MLS policies? Rob and Greg break down the key details of Bright MLS's clear cooperation policy and NWMLS's decision not to remove compensation data from their system. But it doesn't stop there. They also dive into the potential legal consequences for fair housing violations and federal antitrust claims.   They also touch on the Department of Justice's involvement, implications for the industry, and potential risks for Northwest MLS and other players in the market.    Listen to the Industry Relations Podcast, available on all podcast platforms!   Find, buy and protect the homes you love with CoreLogic.   Follow this link to subscribe to Industry Relations YouTube page Listen to the podcast on Apple Listen to the podcast on Spotify Connect with Rob and Greg:  Rob's Website Greg's Website Our Sponsors:  CoreLogic Notorious VIP This podcast is produced by Two Brothers Creative 2024.

Are the rumors true? Is Bright MLS really going to drop the Clear Cooperation Policy (CCP)? Rob and Greg explore the potential implications of this decision, and speculate on the motivations behind it and its potential impact on NAR's authority over MLSs. They also talk about the importance of fair housing and transparency in listings, and how this decision could affect competition within the MLS industry. #BrightMLS #ClearCooperationPolicy #CCP #NAR #FairHousing #Transparency #Listings #Competition #Product #MandatoryRule   Listen to the Industry Relations Podcast, available on all podcast platforms!   Find, buy and protect the homes you love with CoreLogic.   Follow this link to subscribe to Industry Relations YouTube page Listen to the podcast on Apple Listen to the podcast on Spotify Connect with Rob and Greg:  Rob's Website Greg's Website Our Sponsors:  CoreLogic Notorious VIP This podcast is produced by Two Brothers Creative 2024.