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Conversations with figures shaping 21st century culture from Holly Herndon and Mat Dryhurst's studio in Berlin.

Mat Dryhurst, Holly Herndon


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    Myths and Machine Learning with Marianna Simnett

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 10, 2023 55:43


    In advance of the premiere of her new AI fueled gesamtkunstwerk “Gorgon”, the artist Marianna Simnett joins us to dive into mythology, mimicry and the saga of convincing tools to do what you want them to!“Gorgon” (commissioned by LAS) will take place at HAU Berlin from the 13-17th Septemberhttps://www.las-art.foundation/programme/gorgonFollow Marianna Simnett: https://www.instagram.com/mariannasimnett/Collect OGRESS on Foundation: https://foundation.app/collection/ogress 

    The floor is moving with Shawn Reynaldo

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 29, 2023 102:28


    Over the past two decades Shawn Reynaldo has operated in every corner of electronic music. His substack "First Floor", recently anthologized into his debut book, offers a refreshingly candid account of his feelings about the turbulent state of a culture in transition. We dive into some of the choice essays from his book, reflect on some major shifts of the last decade, and attempt a COVID post mortem.See Shawn on tour: https://thevinylfactory.com/news/first-floor-shawn-reynaldo/Buy and read First Floor Volume 1: https://velocitypress.uk/product/first-floor-volume-1/Sub to the  First Floor Substack: https://firstfloor.substack.com/Follow Shawn: https://twitter.com/ShawnReynaldo

    Demystifying AI training law with TechnoLlama

    Play Episode Listen Later May 22, 2023 49:03


    Everyone and their llama is talking about AI ethics and law, so we invited the high Llama Andres Guadamuz, an eminent researcher in AI and IP, to discuss the particularities and uncertainties of AI training law, in honor of his recent paper on the subject. It is an issue of our time. We make it fun. A Scanner Darkly: Copyright Infringement in Artificial Intelligence Inputs and Outputs: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4371204Follow Andres on twitter: https://twitter.com/technollama

    The Permaweird with Venkatesh Rao

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 28, 2023 53:44


    After some weeks of nativity bliss and medical drama we are back! A joy to invite Venkatesh Rao to take us down a number of his bunny trails, focussing initially on his great piece The Permaweird, the latest in his Great Weirding series. We discuss the tendency to call "crisis!", a generally ambient sense of weirdness, and how the latest developments in AI suggest that isn't slowing down anytime soonThe Permaweird: https://studio.ribbonfarm.com/p/the-permaweirdSubscribe to Ribbonfarm: https://studio.ribbonfarm.com/Follow Venkatesh on twitter: https://twitter.com/vgr 

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    Latent space exploration with Damien Roach aka patten

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 19, 2023 66:47


    We caught up with Damien Roach, aka patten, aka 555-5555, to discuss the need for new language to navigate the abstract implications of machine learning for our understanding of art, and the limitations of the modernist approach. We also eventually get around to discussing his beautiful new record "Mirage FM" created in part with Riffusion, a text-to-audio model.Follow Damien: https://twitter.com/patttten / https://www.instagram.com/pattttenBuy "Mirage FM": https://patttten.bandcamp.com/album/mirage-fm 

    Mental models and next gen AI tools with Cristóbal Valenzuela (Runway)

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 21, 2023 63:03


    Runway have been on an absolute tear of late offering new AI tools for their creative production suite, so we invited CEO Cristóbal Valenzuela to join us to discuss their approach, and how the mental models of artists and greater society may change in accordance with the shifts happening.     Try out Runway: https://runwayml.comFollow Runway: https://twitter.com/runwaymlFollow Cristóbal: https://twitter.com/c_valenzuelab 

    Air Age Blueprint, machine sentience and interspecies comms with K Allado-McDowell

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 6, 2023 81:11


    Hey everyone! We recently linked up with the inimitable K Allado McDowell as part of the "Death by Landscape" series at HKW Berlin to discuss their new book "Air Age Blueprint" with a live audience, out now on Ignota Books, as well as recent controversies around AI sentience, and K's own work exploring interspecies communication with machine learning.Lots more to come, hope you are warm and well.Order "Air Age Blueprint": https://ignota.org/products/air-age-blueprintCheck out the HKW: https://www.hkw.de/en/Cover art by Somnath Bhatt  

    Dadabots: Playing with fire❤️‍

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 10, 2023 105:44


    Over the moon to welcome titans of AI music Dadabots! We debate the coming obsolescence of human artists, their new open source AI music organization HarmonAI, and discuss what is being prototyped on the bleeding edge of AI sound generation. Follow Dadabots: https://twitter.com/dadabotsDadabots in the AI song contest: https://www.aisongcontest.com/the-2022-finalists 

    Synthetic 3ball and Semilla AI with Hexorcismos

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 31, 2022 94:08


    We catch up with Moisés Horta Valenzuela (Hexorcismos) to discuss his remarkable experiments with music and machine learning, and his upcoming software project Semilla that experiments with co-ownership of musician AI models shared for anyone to use. Just...the best.Listen to Hexorcismos: https://hexorcismos.bandcamp.com/Follow Hexorcismos: https://twitter.com/hexorcismosCheck out Semilla: https://semilla.ai/ 

    New economic kinks and Extitutional theory with Primavera De Filippi

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 30, 2022 76:07


    Primavera De Filippi of the French National Centre for Scientific Research (CNRS) and Harvard's Berkman Klein Center for Internet and Society joins us to discuss her economic experiments, her groundbreaking art project Plantoid, her novel concept on Extitutional theory, and her current thoughts on the state of crypto.Follow Primavera: https://twitter.com/yaoeo?lang=enAn Introduction to Extitutional Theory: https://cyber.harvard.edu/story/2021-01/introduction-extitutional-theoryRead Blockchain and the Law (cowritten with fellow pod guest Aaron Wright):https://www.hup.harvard.edu/catalog.php?isbn=9780674241596 

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    Covid space travel and AI rabbit holes with Andy Turner (Plaid) and Emma Catnip

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 23, 2022 74:17


    A great joy to host Andy Turner and Emma Catnip to discuss their work in celebration of the release of Plaid's latest album Feorm Falorx. We discuss their intergalactic space travel over the covid lockdown, our mutual rabbit-holing over the latest AI tools and techniques, and the situation for touring artists as they prepare to take the record on the road.Experience Feorm Falorx, the album and graphic novel: https://plaid.warp.net/See Plaid on tour soon: https://ra.co/dj/plaid/tour-datesFollow Andy Turner: https://twitter.com/chimpandyFollow Emma Catnip's work: https://linktr.ee/emmacatnip

    Other intelligences and prepping for utopia with James Bridle

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 10, 2022 64:20


    Hi everyone! Back in the saddle after an enforced little break prompted by a peculiar cluster of medical scare, pregnancy and founding a new organization. What a wild year.Thrilled to host James Bridle to discuss his recent book on ecologies of non-human intelligence "Ways of Being", animal sensing and co-operation, deliberative democracy, the singing origins of language, cybernetics, and a great deal more.  Few have such an encyclopedic and generous grasp of this field and it was a real treat. Have a sweet week

    Is A.I. good or bad for art? With The Culture Journalist

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 25, 2022 74:11


    Mat joined our friends Emilie & Andrea at The Culture Journalist to cover a brief history of the current wave of AI art, why artist replacement narratives can veer on the absurd, and the work we are doing launching our new organization Spawning. Read and subscribe to the Culture Journalist: https://theculturejournalist.substack.com/See if you feature in AI training models, and opt out or opt in: https://haveibeentrained.com/  

    Gamer Wagnerism and dog operas with David Kanaga

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 14, 2022 67:18


    A real joy to welcome one of our favorites David Kanaga, the composer and game designer behind Soft Valkyrie, a recent opera starring Stephen Fry and Attila Csihar, the dog opera O​ἶ​κ​o​ς​piel and more. We discuss gaming and modern composition and the fascinating villainy of Wagner.Listen to Soft Valkyrie: https://davidkanaga.bandcamp.com/album/soft-valkyrie-first-day-from-the-ring-of-the-nibelung-directors-cutFollow David: https://twitter.com/dkanagaPlay Oikospiel: http://www.oikospiel.com/David's music: https://davidkanaga.bandcamp.com/

    Post-Individualism, Metalabels and Web 3 with Yancey Strickler

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 27, 2022 87:46


    A joy to welcome Yancey Stickler to discuss his idea of Post-Individualism and his new project Metalabel. We also get into his prior work founding Kickstarter, its parallels to web 3, and new proposals to fund artistic scenes.Metalabel: https://www.metalabel.xyz/Follow Yancey: https://twitter.com/ystricklerRead Yancey's great blog: https://www.ystrickler.com/writing

    Co-creating new music economies with Tim Exile (Endlesss)

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 13, 2022 116:20


    Such a joy to have on virtuosic musician and instrument builder Tim Exile to discuss his collaborative online musical ecosystem Endlesss, the uneasy state of contemporary music, new folk traditions and what piqued his interest in web 3.Follow Tim: https://twitter.com/timexile Endlesss: https://endlesss.fm/Tim's music: https://warp.net/artists/91285-tim-exile/info 

    The state of streaming, crypto and perpetual musical nostalgia with David Turner (Penny Fractions)

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 31, 2022 95:12


    David Turner shares some of the most insightful and thorough analyses on the music industry through his Penny Fractions newsletter. We link up to discuss the current state of streaming, his skepticism about much of crypto, and his positive perspective on the regular recycling of the 20th century in popular culture.Sub to Penny Fractions: https://pennyfractions.ghost.io/Follow Penny Fractions: https://twitter.com/pennyfractions 

    Inhuman Intelligence with Anil Bawa-Cavia

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 18, 2022 121:58


    Anil is one of our favorite thinkers on AI. To celebrate the advent of Anil's debut book "Logiciel: Six Seminars on Computational Reason", we try and pick apart some high level concepts on reason and computation,  and discuss why recent deep learning breakthroughs may require a break from traditional conceptions of what we consider to be intelligence.Follow Anil: https://twitter.com/cavviaThe Inclosure of Reason: https://technosphere-magazine.hkw.de/p/The-Inclosure-of-Reason-ecTsvnENeC1GXtmgRNaMH9  

    Open Source AI and Stable Diffusion with Emad Mostaque

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 9, 2022 80:16


    A real pleasure to welcome Emad Mostaque to discuss the impending launch of Stable Diffusion, his comprehensive plans for open source AI infrastructure, the impending reconfiguration of how we create everything, and how artists might hope to adapt to it all. Stability.ai - https://stability.ai/Stable Diffusion Beta: https://stability.ai/beta-signup-formFollow Emad: https://twitter.com/EMostaque

    Future instruments and generative transcultural exchange with Hanoi Hantrakul

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 3, 2022 94:13


    Wonderful to catch up with DDSP co-author Hanoi Hantrakul, whose practice considers transcultural exchange using new technologies from machine learning to 3d printing. We discuss his contribution to the 2022 AI song contest, his VST plugin developed in his new role at Tik Tok, and the fascinating challenge of fair and generative ways to interact with deep cultural traditions in the context of AI.  Follow Hanoi: https://twitter.com/yaboihanoiVote in the AI Song Contest: https://www.aisongcontest.com/the-2022-finalistsTry Mawf: https://mawf.io/Try DDSP: https://magenta.tensorflow.org/ddsp-vst 

    Marina Abramović on the parallels between performance art and web 3

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 20, 2022 55:46


    We had a wonderfully funny chat with Marina Abramović on AI authorship and digital twins, the urgent need for heroism, and the parallels between performance art and web 3's attempts to value the immaterial.Marina Abramović's debut NFT project with Circa - The Hero 25FPS: https://circa.art/nft/Marina Abramović: Seven Easy Pieces: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Easy_PiecesMarina Abramović: The Life: https://www.serpentinegalleries.org/whats-on/marina-abramovic-life/ 

    Experiments in revaluing music with David Greenstein (Sound.xyz)

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 15, 2022 86:43


    We sit down with Sound.xyz founder David Greenstein to discuss the many different experiments and approaches happening to revalue music within the Ethereum ecosystem, touching on Spotify, TikTok and the traditional music industry in contrast.Full disclosure, we contributed a small sum to Sound's seed investment round. Follow David: https://twitter.com/dgreenstein1Follow Sound: https://twitter.com/soundxyz_ 

    Doomer Optimism and the Green Pill with Kevin Owocki

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 5, 2022 70:59


    Celebrating the release of his first book "Greenpilled: How Crypto Can Regenerate The World" we welcome Kevin Owocki to discuss regenerative crypto-economics, doomer optimism,  impact DAO's, public goods and crypto's relationship to the state .  Buy Greenpilled and take the pledge: https://greenpill.party/#bookSub to The Green Pill Podcast: https://availableon.com/greenpillFollow Kevin: https://twitter.com/owockiGitcoin: https://gitcoin.co/

    Building a Web 3 Sci-Fi Film Franchise with The Fringe

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 1, 2022 120:45


    Our favorite projects at the moment are finding ways to harness the generative potential of Discord communities to coordinate ambitious projects, and what THE FRINGE are building is remarkable.Already having created a bespoke successful Sci-Fi universe with their debut film PROSPECT, they are turning to Web 3 to build a more expansive, co-created and ultimately fair way to create movies. Really excited to share this one!THE FRINGE: https://fringedrifters.com/THE FRINGE White Paper: https://mirror.xyz/thefringe.eth/d4F3Xok4kOKHs8Dzbpan1A7XNtdTO3nBsEWcEGIhGecFollow THE FRINGE: https://twitter.com/fringedriftersPROSPECT: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prospect_(film)#:~:text=Prospect%20is%20a%202018%20American,in%20the%20moon's%20poisonous%20forest. 

    Cloud money and the Case for Cash with Brett Scott

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 22, 2022 95:29


    Wonderful to chat with Brett Scott in advance of his new book "Cloudmoney: Cash, Cards, Crypto and the War for Our Wallets" (Penguin) about the creeping incursions of cashlessness, the naivety of crypto and why cash is maybe worth keeping around!Follow Brett: https://twitter.com/SuitpossumPreorder "Cloudmoney": https://www.amazon.com/Cloudmoney-Cash-Cards-Crypto-Wallets-ebook/dp/B09HSBDLKGSub to Altered States of Monetary Consciousness: https://brettscott.substack.com/ 

    Headless Bands and Lore with Songcamp

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 2, 2022 107:57


    Excited to chat with one of the most exciting projects in the music and crypto field, Songcamp, and the world's first headless band, Chaos!Camp Chaos: https://www.chaos.build/Songcamp: https://songcamp.mirror.xyz/Follow Mark: https://twitter.com/markreditoFollow Matthew: https://twitter.com/matthewchaimFollow Songcamp: https://twitter.com/songcamp_Follow Chaos: https://twitter.com/headless_chaosLars Holdhus: http://www.larsholdhus.com/Matt Liston's 0xOmega: https://www.ccn.com/crypto-cult-augur-founder-creates-ethereum-based-religion-called-0x%CF%89/ 

    Genetic algorithms and limit experiences with Harm van den Dorpel

    Play Episode Listen Later May 31, 2022 81:06


    Welcoming crypto art legend and valued Interdependence subscriber Harm van den Dorpel on the podcast to discuss scarcity, genetic algorithms, managing expectations, limit experiences and his upcoming work, Markov's DreamFollow Harm: https://twitter.com/harmvddorpelCheck out Harm's Work and writing: https://harm.work/Check out Markov's Dream: https://harm.work/work/markovs-dreamChemsex Benelux / Indiscreet Units: https://benelux.chem.sex/ 

    Play Episode Listen Later May 17, 2022 67:50


    Celebrating the release of Debit's album "The Long Count", composed using machine learning tools trained on the worlds largest archive of Mayan wind instruments! We discuss the genesis of the project, working with the gorgeous grain of nascent AI instruments, ancestral technologies, travels through Mexico, the plague of musical conservatism, and the double edged sword of "world music".Buy "The Long Count": https://boomkat.com/products/the-long-count-16d8c6ef-30e1-4e6f-80fa-6957fd643e18Follow Debit: https://twitter.com/delibeat 

    Arguing cryptos case in music with the Money 4 Nothing podcast

    Play Episode Listen Later May 11, 2022 99:38


    Hi everyone!Something different this week. After listening to some great episodes pulling apart the Bandcamp Epic Games acquisition and showing some skepticism about Web 3, I approached Money 4 Nothing podcast to have a convivial discussion about crypto for a collaborative episode. We discuss common concerns and skepticisms, debate the motivations and significance of major labels in the space, ask if saving the 20th century music industry is worth it and a great deal moreI can really recommend checking out M4N at the links below!Money 4 Nothing: https://money4nothing.podbean.com/On Twitter: https://twitter.com/M4NpodcastOn Bandcamp and Epic Games: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/bandcamp-and-epic-games-get-hitched/id1514180523?i=1000554131793M4N with David Turner: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/web-3-bro-with-david-turner/id1514180523?i=1000550471345 

    Prepping for the metaverse with Sterling Crispin

    Play Episode Listen Later May 11, 2022 95:23


    We are happy to be back after Mat's COVID trip, discussing art prepping, Sterling's upcoming ArtBlocks piece, and his expert opinions on the state of ML, AR, VR and what is worth watching (and ignoring) about the impending metaverse.Sterling's upcoming ArtBlocks reveal: https://www.artblocks.io/project/279Sterling's art: http://www.sterlingcrispin.com/Sterling's great blog: https://sterlingcrispin.blogspot.com/Sterling's twitter: https://twitter.com/sterlingcrispin

    Making Web3 human legible, constructive speculation and the shock of the nude with Context

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 13, 2022 105:33


    Hey y'all, after many references to this project in previous episodes we are really happy to welcome Adam and Luke from Context!We discuss their efforts to make Web3 activity legible to humans, debate criticisms of the speculative nature of the Web3 art space, discuss the antecedent of drop culture, the shockwaves caused by making previously hidden financial activity transparent, and the potential for permissionless identities.Check out Context: Context.appFollow Luke: https://twitter.com/worm_emojiFollow Adam: https://twitter.com/adamludwin 

    Transitioning to Web 3 by building a research DAO with Cherie Hu (Water & Music)

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 6, 2022 93:22


    Hey everyone! This week we host the inimitable Cherie Hu to discuss the evolution of Water & Music into the first contributor led research DAO for the music industry, the changing definitions and focus of music & technology, Tik Tok and the politics (and occasional burden) of relatability. It was fun and revealing to work through the particularities and practicalities of making the jump into uncertain territory with Web 3 from a position in the more traditional music industry!Everyone should check out what Cherie is building with Water & Music: https://www.waterandmusic.com/Read the comprehensive $STREAM report: https://stream.waterandmusic.com/Follow Cherie: https://twitter.com/cheriehu42 

    Hyperstructures & the future of ZORA with Jacob.eth

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 10, 2022 114:11


    Jacob from ZORA runs us through his latest essay, Hyperstructures, and the future of ZORA protocol. We pull apart how permissionless protocols and cc0 projects are gathering significant momentum and what this might mean for the future of the internet and art making! We also dive down the rabbit hole of some pretty psychedelic NFT use cases. Super fun and enriching as ever. Hope you are all having a great week!Hyperstructures: https://jacob.energy/hyperstructures.htmlWhat is CryptoMedia: https://cryptomedia.wtf/Nouns DAO: https://nouns.wtf/The Congress: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Congress_(2013_film) 

    Permanently archiving music and its context with Nina

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 18, 2022 123:46


    A wonderful conversation with Jack Callahan, Eric Farber and Mike Pollard of Nina, who are building a protocol for permanent collections of music on the fast and affordable Solana Blockchain. Made all the more special that we come from similar experimental music scenes, we discuss the critical importance of establishing and archiving context for marginal musics, Myspace data loss and the revival of 00's era aesthetics, reanimating Scatman John, our our mutual appreciation of experimental composer Jeff Witscher, how protocol art is a more enduring framing than "NFT" art (equivalent to the LP as a medium), and our excitement and frustrations at both the rollout of Web 3 and its detractors. Nina Market: https://nina.market/Jeff Witscher: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_WitscherFlea label: https://newmusicindustrialcomplex.com/Julius Eastman: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_EastmanMyspace data loss: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/mar/18/myspace-loses-all-content-uploaded-before-2016   

    Stories told about technology, context as medium and reanimating dot-com companies with Simon Denny

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 10, 2022 61:05


    We invited artist Simon Denny over to our studio for the final podcast of the year to go deep on his practice, a commitment to exploring context as a medium, making crypto art and exhibitions before everyone cared, and Dotcom Seance, his wild new art project on Folia.A perfect guest to close out the year! We will be taking a break for the first week of January to focus on something big to be announced soon, and will also be doing an AMA in the early  new year - send over questions!Happy new year everyone and thank you

    Ethereum Energy Numbers are in! Moral calculations and web 3 critiques with Kyle McDonald

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 11, 2022 105:36


    Big one this week, artist and researcher Kyle McDonald did the gruelling work to calculate the energy and carbon cost of Ethereum, and we try to break down those numbers, calculate their relative impact, discuss critiques of web 3 and debate why they are mostly coming from where they are coming from.Ethereum Emissions: https://kylemcdonald.github.io/ethereum-emissions/Kyle's art: https://kylemcdonald.net/Follow Kyle: https://twitter.com/kcimcWho Pays Artists?: http://www.whopaysartists.com/People staring at computers: https://www.wired.com/2012/07/people-staring-at-computers/ 

    Choose your Illusion; financial precarity, meme stocks and disinfo with Ali Breland (Mother Jones)

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 29, 2021 61:00


    We had a long and wonderful chat with Ali after reading his "Who Goes Crypto?" piece on the increasing number of working people opting into investing money into the casino of crypto and meme stocks rather than adhere to crumbling narratives over how the economy works, and for whom. We also dive into an area of his expertise, online disinformation and it's political ramifications. Holly dips out half way through the discussion, she wasn't feeling great and we did not realise at the time she had contracted COVID. Fortunately all is well now, but that will explain the occasional coughing and spluttering.Thanks everyone, have a great week

    Unlocking a sustainable open source culture, public goods and other interdependencies with Scott Moore (Gitcoin)

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 17, 2021 101:14


    We've been wanting to have this conversation for some time! Scott Moore joins us to discuss Gitcoin's efforts to sustain open source developers, the emerging culture shock between late 20th century free software ideologies and new proposals to get developers paid (which parallels a lot of the culture shock happening in the art and music world rn), discuss the role crypto may play in funding and sustaining public goods, and deviate into why setting good precedent may be important in anticipation of rapid onset AI. We sound a little croaky for this episode and the next one because we had a bit of COVID in the house. All is good now thankfully. Stay safe out there everyone, and thanks

    Cooking, self sufficiency and design spaces with Deafbeef

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 9, 2021 75:58


    We had a wonderful friday night hang with artist Deafbeef, who has had a crazy year transitioning from full time blacksmithing to becoming a respected artist known for his on-chain audio visual experiments. After an intense year we try to go as far off script as is possible and just talk about art, satire, music making and cooking videos.Check out Deafbeef's work: https://www.deafbeef.com/Follow Deafbeef on Twitter:  https://twitter.com/_deafbeefStuff we discussedBrad Troemel's Athletic Aesthetics: https://thenewinquiry.com/athletic-aesthetics/Media Archaelogist Erkki Huhtamo: http://www.erkkihuhtamo.com/Folie à deux: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folie_%C3%A0_deuxEtoy Corp https://etoy.com/Frank Zappa at the PMRC hearing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgAF8Vu8G0w 

    Reputation economies and seeding DAOs with Jess Sloss of Seed Club

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 30, 2021 89:56


    Wonderful to welcome Jess from Seed club, who help web communities make the transition to member owned DAOs! Apply for Seed Club: https://seedclub.xyz/Follow Jess: https://twitter.com/thattallguy

    Slaying Moloch, starting the first crypto art registry, Bowie Bonds, Data markets and data unions with Ocean Protocol's Trent McConaghy

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 28, 2021 95:00


    Slaying Moloch, starting the first crypto art registry, Bowie Bonds, Data markets and data unions with Ocean Protocol's Trent McConaghyTrent has been very influential to our thinking. There are few people who can talk with such fluency on matters we care about, even better build compelling alternatives. In this we discuss how he and his wife Masha built the first crypto art registry, Ascribe, long before the concept of an NFT existed. We also discuss how his latest project Ocean Protocol proposes to hand us control of our data at the dawn of the next internet.  Follow Trent: https://twitter.com/trentmc0Trent's Blog: http://trent.st/blog/Ascribe: https://www.ascribe.io/Ocean Protocol: https://oceanprotocol.com/Swash: https://swashapp.io/ 

    The Cold War For Information Technology with former Director of Iskra Delta Janez Skrubej

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 27, 2021 78:02


     In conjunction with this years Ljubljana Biennial of Graphic Arts titled "Iskra Delta "curated by Tjaša Pogačar we interviewed Janez Skrubej, the author of "The Cold War For Information Technology: the Inside Story". Inside indeed, as Janez was the former CEO of Iskra Delta, a major contender on the world stage for not only personal computers, but also large scale networked IT systems. Based within Tito's Yugoslavia it was caught in the crosshairs in the cold war, working between the US, Soviet Union, China, and India, with each corresponding intelligence agency pushing their own agenda. Janez was the managing director during this time, and was personally paid visits by the presidents of the Soviet Union, China and India, as well as the CIA and KGB. Ultimately the conflicting interests overpowered the small IT company and it closed, leaving Europe without a major contender in the global IT race. It's a treat to speak to Janez about this extraordinary situation, and to imagine an alternative history where Iskra Delta might have had a fighting chance.Read The Cold War for Information Technology: The Inside Story: https://www.amazon.com/Cold-War-Information-Technology-Inside-ebook/dp/B00C1NWL2EFollow Janez Skrubej updates: http://sbpra.com/janezskrubej/We cannot wait to see this film! http://senca-studio.si/en/portfolio/sparks-in-time/Check out the Ljubljana Biennale of Graphic arts, with contributions by Other Internet, John Akomfrah, Simon Denny, Josh Citarella, us and more!: https://34.bienale.si/en/  

    Bringing the music industry on-chain with Bruno Guez (Revelator)

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 12, 2021 60:38


    Hi everyone!! We often have discussions on here about web 3 representing a real opportunity for the independent music industry, and Bruno Guez is an expert on how that might end up transpiring, from his time working as a label head, directing the Merlin Network and more recently in building Revelator.   Check out Revelator: https://revelator.com/Follow Bruno on Twitter: https://twitter.com/brunoguez?lang=en 

    Protocol Art Pioneer Rhea Myers (few)

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 5, 2021 90:36


    Rhea Myers conceptualised a new art world by curiously tinkering with new tools and seeing what art she could make with them. We catch up with her to reflect on the earliest days of crypto art, her experiments with the medium and their art historical roots in 60's conceptualism, the current state of the field, Loot frenzy and the recent arrival of the dragonslayers, and some areas she feels are yet unexplored.This was crazy fun.Follow Rhea on twitter: https://twitter.com/rheaplexRead and check out Rhea's Work: https://rhea.artConceptual Art, Cryptocurrency and Beyond: https://www.furtherfield.org/conceptual-art-cryptocurrency-and-beyond/Ethereum Art Market: https://rhea.art/ethereum-art-marketCertificate of Inauthenticity: https://rhea.art/certificate-of-inauthenticityTokens Equal Text: https://rhea.art/tokens-equal-textRhea's writing on Furtherfield: https://www.furtherfield.org/author/rhea-myers/Furtherfields (excellent) book Artists Rethinking the Blockchain: https://torquetorque.net/wp-content/uploads/ArtistsReThinkingTheBlockchain.pdfRhea's Gallery Kate Voss: https://www.katevassgalerie.com/Flow Blockchain:  https://www.onflow.org/Fingerprints DAO: https://www.fingerprintsdao.xyz/ 

    $5 grad schools, musical bodybuilding, Puerto Rico and crypto concerns with La Meme Young

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 22, 2021 72:45


    Thrilled to welcome artist, educator and meme master Max Alper (La Meme Young) to join us to discuss running an online art school, sound and meme pedagogy, musical body building and deliver an on the ground report of crypto excessiveness arriving in his new home of Puerto Rico.Learn music with La Meme Young: https://www.patreon.com/la_meme_youngFollow his incredible Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/la_meme_young/?hl=enBrian Ferneyhough - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8RTPYaWXj8Jason Eckardt - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrY1V2Q3iwINitro - Freight train - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGf5NxLQoEo 

    Emotional Capitalism, The Extreme Self and New Art Institutions with Shumon Basar

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 7, 2021 66:21


    Our first ever in person discussion this week with writer and curator Shumon Basar to discuss his new book with Douglas Coupland and Hans Ulrich Obrist, The Extreme Self, published in accompaniment with the exhibition "Age of You" most recently hosted at Jameel Art Centre, Dubai.We discuss a number of neologisms that appear in the book, not least Shumon's concept of  "Emotional Capitalism", the growing and alarming gulf between reality and the stories we have to comprehend it, and how art institutions might hope to keep up!Read The Extreme Self:Europe: https://doyoureadme.de/shop/culture-society/the-extreme-self?v=3a52f3c22ed6US: https://www.artbook.com/9783960989738.htmlDazed Interview: https://www.dazeddigital.com/life-culture/article/53342/1/extreme-self-age-douglas-coupland-shumon-basar-hans-ulrich-obrist-interviewWatch Shumon's Visual Essay "Season Ending (The Day Of Forever): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzAc8yRWGCo  

    Synthetic Media, iNFTs, collective characters and prompt engineering with Alethea AI

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 24, 2021 66:24


    Hey everyone,thanks again for your support! We have a great cast of people joining us over the next few weeks. In line with our recent emphasis on collective character development, we invited Arif Khan and Juliet Gardner of Alethea AI to discuss the incoming age of synthetic media, collectively and autonomously created characters, their concept of interactive NFTs and much moreCheck out Alethea AI: https://alethea.ai/Follow Arif: https://twitter.com/ArKhanFollow Juliet: https://twitter.com/cybersomeone

    Latent Visions, Promptism and the future of AI art with Adverb

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 17, 2021 62:22


    If you have spent any time online recently, you have no doubt seen an explosion of remarkable images generated from text with Latent Visions, VQGAN and CLIP. We spoke to Adverb, the creator of Latent Visions, about his project, Promptism, and where we see these applications developing in the next few years (or at this pace, months). Unmissable discussion with someone who has contributed so much to the field this year!Follow Adverb: https://twitter.com/advadnoun 

    Mercury Retrograde, financial & social capital and the new internet with Emily Segal

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 3, 2021 71:16


    Thrilled this week to invite artist and author Emily Segal, whose debut auto-fictional novel “Mercury Retrograde” tells the story of a young artists attempt to reconcile the abstract landscape of overfunded startups and the art world, set in New York between Occupy and the Trump Presidency. We discuss what can be learned from the post-internet era as we stand at the precipice of a new internet, the tensions created by the meeting between financial and social capital, what the hell an artist is anyway now?? and Emily's recent deep dive on funding new literature projects with web 3.Read Mercury Retrograde: https://delugebooks.com/products/mercury-retrogradeDeluge Books: https://delugebooks.com/$NOVEL on Mirror: https://emily.mirror.xyz/0AFENlMKv9amUC1OJIZY26udpISw_raXkoEcvelPvzgNemesis Global: https://nemesis.global/ 

    Daemon, DAO's and Cislunar Exploration with Daniel Suarez

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 27, 2021 99:36


    Hi everyone, this week we are thrilled to invite author and developer Daniel Suarez, whose self published science fiction book Daemon became a cult success for its hard science fiction depiction of a narrow AI preprogrammed to re-order the world after the death of it's game developer author. We discuss Daemon and it's follow up Freedom™, how those books inspired aspects of the formation of Ethereum, the importance of reframing narratives through art, and Daniel's more recent work, Delta-V, researching the economics of space exploration. This is a really fun one!Daniel Suarez: https://daniel-suarez.com/On twitter: https://twitter.com/itsdanielsuarez?lang=enDaemon: https://www.amazon.com/DAEMON-Daemon-Daniel-Suarez/dp/0451228731Freedom™: https://www.amazon.com/Freedom-TM-Daemon-Daniel-Suarez/dp/0451231899Delta-V: https://daniel-suarez.com/Delta-v_synopsis.html

    Approachable AI for music, model markets, new DAWs and Holly+ with Never Before Heard Sounds

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 14, 2021 94:13


    Super excited to share this one, on the advent of our collaboration for Holly+, we are joined by Chris Deaner and Yotam Mann of Never Before Heard Sounds, a brand new company releasing AI music tools, to discuss approachable AI tools for music making, the inevitable model economy, new approaches to DAWs and the Holly+ project more generally! Never Before Heard Sounds: https://heardsounds.com/Follow them on Twitter: https://twitter.com/HeardSoundsPlay with Holly+ (and share your results!): https://holly.plus/

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