That Black Couple Podcast

In this anniversary episode of That Black Couple, Jenn and Darren celebrate 19 years of marriage and 22 years of being together. They dive into the dynamics of their non-traditional relationship, discussing their unique identities as a monogamous person and a polyamorous person. The couple shares insights on communication, the importance of understanding one's own needs, and how to navigate love and relationships outside of societal norms. Join them as they reflect on their journey and provide valuable tips for anyone interested in exploring polyamory.

In this episode of That Black Couple Podcast, Jenn and Daren dive into the thought-provoking concept of the Black Legacy Model, inspired by a viral TikTok series. They explore the four pillars that define this model: income, labor, community and family investment, and career flexibility. The couple reflects on how these ideas resonate with their own 19-year journey of partnership, emphasizing the importance of mutual respect and teamwork in relationships. As they unpack each pillar, Jenn and Daren discuss the challenges faced by Black couples in a society that often imposes traditional norms that don't serve them. They candidly share their experiences of navigating gender roles, pooling resources, and the significance of supporting each other's individual growth. They challenge listeners to rethink conventional relationship dynamics and embrace a more collaborative approach. Join them for a rich conversation that not only highlights the realities of Black relationships but also offers insights into building a legacy rooted in love, partnership, and community.

In the second part of the season 8 opener, Jenn and Daren dive deep into the complexities of their relationship journey, revealing the pivotal moments that shaped their love story. They reflect on the early days of their romance, starting from their college years. The conversation takes a candid turn as they discuss the challenges they faced from family disapproval, particularly from Daren's father, who went to great lengths to deter their union. The couple reflects on their scrappy beginnings in Chicago, where they learned to rely on each other and build a future despite the odds. As they recount their experiences, Jenn and Daren emphasize the importance of choosing oneself and the power of true partnership. They share how their journey led them to create a life plan filled with dreams and aspirations, from starting a family to navigating career changes. They also share the struggles of parenthood, career shifts, and the societal expectations placed on them as a couple. Through it all, Jenn and Daren highlight how their commitment to each other's growth has been a cornerstone of their relationship, allowing them to thrive together in a world that often tries to pull them apart.

In this 2-part episode, Jenn and Daren kick off Season 8 of That Black Couple Podcast with their first-ever video episode, allowing listeners to finally see their dynamic personalities in action. Join them for a heartfelt and humorous exploration of love, friendship, and the origins of That Black Couple. They reflect on their journey together, starting from their fateful meeting in the chicken line at the University of Southern California in 2002. They share the story of how they became best friends, navigating the challenges of college life while forming a deep bond. From trust falls to late-night video game sessions, they recount the moments that solidified their connection. They candidly discuss the complexities of their relationship, including the initial confusion and miscommunication that almost derailed their budding romance. Jenn and Daren emphasize the importance of authenticity in their relationship and how their shared experiences shaped them into the couple they are today. They tease the upcoming episodes that will delve deeper into their life together, including their move across the country and the adventures of parenting. Socials: Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/coloredconvosmedia www.ThatBlackCouple.com Email: ThatBLKCouple@gmail.com YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ColoredConvosMedia FB: www.facebook.com/ThatBlackCouple Threads: www.Threads.com/ThatBlkCouple Instagram: www.instagram.com/thatblkcouple Apple Podcasts: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/id1284072220?mt=2 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2M7GIQlWxG05gGq0bpBwma?si=xSkjzK0BRJW51rjyl3DWvw Pandora: https://www.pandora.com/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/PC:1000149014 Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/That-Black-Couple-Podcast/dp/B0C12M7Q34/ SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/thatblackcouple Podcast Summary: This is an accidentally funny podcast about being Black, Queer, Polyamourous, and Creative in an Anti-Black world. Our goal is to create a space for Black millennials to discuss and embody adult life on their own terms. We aren't beholden to “traditional” gender or parenting roles, queerness is fluid and present in the ways we show up in our relationships and in the world, and we want to build community with other Black folx who are trying to figure this ish out.

In this episode, Jenn and Daren celebrate the milestone of reaching 2025 with an untraditional year-in-review format, reflecting on the tumultuous events of 2024. They kick things off by sharing their personal and podcasting achievements, including Jenn's book launches and their feature in The Huffington Post. In The Conversation, they delve into the podcast's performance over the past year, highlighting the most listened-to episodes that resonated with their audience, such as discussions on Black lesbian visibility and the complexities of polyamory. They emphasize the importance of choosing oneself in a challenging world and how their experiences and insights can empower listeners. In The Reflection, Jenn and Daren look ahead to the future of the podcast, announcing exciting changes including the transition to a video format and the launch of the new podcast "We Published, Beloved!", focused on supporting Black and queer authors. They express their commitment to exploring themes of queer identity, parenting, and the realities of being Black in America today, inviting their listeners to join them on this journey of growth and exploration. Socials: Substack: https://coloredconvosmedia.substack.com/ www.ThatBlackCouple.com Email: ThatBLKCouple@gmail.com FB: www.facebook.com/ThatBlackCouple Threads: www.Threads.com/ThatBlkCouple Instagram: www.instagram.com/thatblkcouple Apple Podcasts: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/id1284072220?mt=2 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2M7GIQlWxG05gGq0bpBwma?si=xSkjzK0BRJW51rjyl3DWvw Pandora: https://www.pandora.com/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/PC:1000149014 Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/That-Black-Couple-Podcast/dp/B0C12M7Q34/ SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/thatblackcouple Podcast Summary: This is an accidentally funny podcast about the realities of Blackness and adult life. We do “adult” differently. We are That Black Couple. Our goal is to create a space for Black millennials to discuss and embody adult life on their own terms. We aren't beholden to “traditional” gender or parenting roles, queerness is fluid and present in the ways we show up in our relationships and in the world, and we want to build community with other 30-something Black folx who are trying to figure this ish out.

In this episode, Jenn and Daren tackle the myths and realities of holiday traditions, questioning the authenticity and significance of these celebrations. As they reflect on the end of 2024, they discuss the societal pressures surrounding holidays and the myths that shape our understanding of them. In The Conversation, they delve into the notion of identity-making and the role holidays play in it. They challenge the conventional narratives around holidays like Christmas and Thanksgiving, emphasizing the importance of authenticity over societal expectations. Through personal anecdotes, they highlight how their family has redefined holiday celebrations to align with their values, focusing on genuine connections rather than obligatory traditions. In The Reflection, Jenn and Daren explore the broader implications of myth-making, touching on topics such as Disney's corporate practices and the cultural impact of sports fandoms. They urge listeners to critically examine the myths they subscribe to and consider the power dynamics behind them. By questioning the status quo, they advocate for a more intentional and meaningful approach to identity and tradition. Socials: Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/coloredconvosmedia www.ThatBlackCouple.com Email: ThatBLKCouple@gmail.com FB: www.facebook.com/ThatBlackCouple Threads: www.Threads.com/ThatBlkCouple Instagram: www.instagram.com/thatblkcouple Apple Podcasts: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/id1284072220?mt=2 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2M7GIQlWxG05gGq0bpBwma?si=xSkjzK0BRJW51rjyl3DWvw Pandora: https://www.pandora.com/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/PC:1000149014 Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/That-Black-Couple-Podcast/dp/B0C12M7Q34/ SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/thatblackcouple Podcast Summary: This is an accidentally funny podcast about the realities of Blackness and adult life. We do “adult” differently. We are That Black Couple. Our goal is to create a space for Black millennials to discuss and embody adult life on their own terms. We aren't beholden to “traditional” gender or parenting roles, queerness is fluid and present in the ways we show up in our relationships and in the world, and we want to build community with other 30-something Black folx who are trying to figure this ish out.

In this episode, Jenn and Daren dive into the heart of Blackness in the American South, exploring its cultural richness, historical complexities, and the unique qualities that make it a cornerstone of Black identity in the U.S. They begin by sharing their personal experiences and revelations about the South, particularly through the lens of climate change and its impact on Southern communities. Jenn recounts her recent travels and the profound connection she felt to the land and its people, while Daren reflects on the resilience of the South in the face of historical and present-day challenges. In The Conversation, they pay homage to the South's enduring spirit, acknowledging both its struggles and its triumphs. They discuss the legacy of slavery, anti-literacy laws, and the systemic barriers that have shaped the region. Still, they also celebrate the South as a cradle of Black culture and activism, home to influential figures and movements that have left an indelible mark on history. In The Reflection, Jenn and Daren turn their attention to the culinary treasures of the South, using the metaphor of "salt grits versus sugar grits" to illustrate the diversity and depth of Southern cuisine. They share their appreciation for the flavors and traditions that are unique to the region, emphasizing the importance of preserving these cultural touchstones amidst the pressures of gentrification and modernization. Socials: Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/coloredconvosmedia www.ThatBlackCouple.com Email: ThatBLKCouple@gmail.com FB: www.facebook.com/ThatBlackCouple Threads: www.Threads.com/ThatBlkCouple Instagram: www.instagram.com/thatblkcouple Apple Podcasts: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/id1284072220?mt=2 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2M7GIQlWxG05gGq0bpBwma?si=xSkjzK0BRJW51rjyl3DWvw Pandora: https://www.pandora.com/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/PC:1000149014 Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/That-Black-Couple-Podcast/dp/B0C12M7Q34/ SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/thatblackcouple Podcast Summary: This is an accidentally funny podcast about the realities of Blackness and adult life. We do “adult” differently. We are That Black Couple. Our goal is to create a space for Black millennials to discuss and embody adult life on their own terms. We aren't beholden to “traditional” gender or parenting roles, queerness is fluid and present in the ways we show up in our relationships and in the world, and we want to build community with other 30-something Black folx who are trying to figure this ish out.

In this episode, inspired by Aaliyah Sheffield's song "Earth is Ghetto," Jenn and Daren dive into the chaotic reality of today's world, including the resurgence of COVID-19 and the unsettling political landscape post-election. They begin by candidly discuss their recent experiences with COVID-19 and the importance of remaining vigilant as the pandemic persists. Jenn shares her meticulous efforts to avoid the virus during her book tour, highlighting the stark contrast between her precautions and the general public's lax attitude. They emphasize the need for continued awareness and protection, as hospitals remain strained and the virus continues to pose a threat. In The Conversation, they delve into the implications of the recent election results, particularly the alarming Project 2025. Jenn and Daren express their concerns over the project's draconian measures, including attacks on reproductive rights, the dismantling of federal agencies, and the targeting of LGBTQ+ communities. They stress the importance of understanding these policies' potential impacts and preparing for the challenges ahead. In the Reflection, they offer practical advice for listeners to fortify themselves and their communities. From stocking up on essential supplies to engaging in local organizing efforts, Jenn and Daren encourage proactive measures to navigate the uncertain future. They underscore the power of knowledge and community action in combating the systemic issues that threaten marginalized communities. Socials: Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/coloredconvosmedia www.ThatBlackCouple.com Email: ThatBLKCouple@gmail.com FB: www.facebook.com/ThatBlackCouple Instagram: www.instagram.com/thatblkcouple Apple Podcasts: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/id1284072220?mt=2 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2M7GIQlWxG05gGq0bpBwma?si=xSkjzK0BRJW51rjyl3DWvw Pandora: https://www.pandora.com/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/PC:1000149014 Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/That-Black-Couple-Podcast/dp/B0C12M7Q34/ SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/thatblackcouple Podcast Summary: This is an accidentally funny podcast about the realities of Blackness and adult life. We do “adult” differently. We are That Black Couple. Our goal is to create a space for Black millennials to discuss and embody adult life on their own terms. We aren't beholden to “traditional” gender or parenting roles, queerness is fluid and present in the ways we show up in our relationships and in the world, and we want to build community with other 30-something Black folx who are trying to figure this ish out.

In this episode, Jenn and Daren return after a brief hiatus due to a bout with COVID-19 to discuss the aftermath of the recent election results. This episode dives deep into the implications of the election, focusing on the role of Black women and the voting patterns that led to the unexpected outcome. In The Conversation, they analyze the election results, highlighting the phenomenon of split-ticket voting, where voters supported Democratic issues like abortion rights but still voted for Trump. Jenn and Daren also explore the concept of the "glass cliff," where women, particularly Black women, are set up to fail in high-stakes situations. In the Reflection, they delve into the broader implications of Trump's re-election, including the potential cabinet appointments and policy changes that could arise. They stress the importance of recognizing the influence of white voters, particularly white women, in determining election outcomes. Jenn and Daren call for a shift in focus towards understanding and addressing the voting behaviors of white Americans in future elections. Socials: Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/coloredconvosmedia www.ThatBlackCouple.com Email: ThatBLKCouple@gmail.com FB: www.facebook.com/ThatBlackCouple Twitter: www.twitter.com/ThatBlkCouple Instagram: www.instagram.com/thatblkcouple Apple Podcasts: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/id1284072220?mt=2 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2M7GIQlWxG05gGq0bpBwma?si=xSkjzK0BRJW51rjyl3DWvw Pandora: https://www.pandora.com/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/PC:1000149014 Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/That-Black-Couple-Podcast/dp/B0C12M7Q34/ SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/thatblackcouple Podcast Summary: This is an accidentally funny podcast about the realities of Blackness and adult life. We do “adult” differently. We are That Black Couple. Our goal is to create a space for Black millennials to discuss and embody adult life on their own terms. We aren't beholden to “traditional” gender or parenting roles, queerness is fluid and present in the ways we show up in our relationships and in the world, and we want to build community with other 30-something Black folx who are trying to figure this ish out.

In this episode, Jenn and Daren dive into the rich and often overlooked topic of ancestor appreciation. Throughout the episode, Jenn and Daren emphasize the importance of acknowledging and honoring one's ancestors. They share personal anecdotes and practices, such as setting up altars and engaging in rituals that connect them to their ancestral roots. They argue that these practices are not only meaningful but also essential for a holistic understanding of self and community. The episode begins with Jenn sharing their experiences with organized religion, highlighting the transition from a strict Christian upbringing to a more nuanced understanding of spirituality that includes ancestor veneration. Daren adds his perspective, discussing the importance of finding what is real and true for oneself in the realm of faith and belief. In the Conversation, they delve into recent statistics about religious affiliation in the U.S., revealing that a significant number of Americans now identify as religiously unaffiliated. They discuss the implications of this trend, particularly among younger generations and LGBTQ individuals, who often leave organized religion due to its failure to meet their spiritual and ethical needs. In the Reflection, they discuss the broader implications of these trends, questioning the relevance of traditional religious institutions in modern society. They encourage listeners to explore alternative spiritual practices that resonate with their personal experiences and beliefs, suggesting that a focus on ancestor appreciation can provide a powerful and grounding sense of identity and purpose. Reference Material * New Survey Shows ‘Religiously Unaffiliated' Is Fastest Growing Religious Category - https://www.prri.org/press-release/new-survey-shows-religiously-unaffiliated-is-fastest-growing-religious-category/ * Religious ‘Nones' in America: Who They Are and What They Believe - https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2024/01/24/religious-nones-in-america-who-they-are-and-what-they-believe/ Socials: Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/coloredconvosmedia www.ThatBlackCouple.com Email: ThatBLKCouple@gmail.com FB: www.facebook.com/ThatBlackCouple Twitter: www.twitter.com/ThatBlkCouple Instagram: www.instagram.com/thatblkcouple Apple Podcasts: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/id1284072220?mt=2 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2M7GIQlWxG05gGq0bpBwma?si=xSkjzK0BRJW51rjyl3DWvw Pandora: https://www.pandora.com/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/PC:1000149014 Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/That-Black-Couple-Podcast/dp/B0C12M7Q34/ SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/thatblackcouple Podcast Summary: This is an accidentally funny podcast about the realities of Blackness and adult life. We do “adult” differently. We are That Black Couple. Our goal is to create a space for Black millennials to discuss and embody adult life on their own terms. We aren't beholden to “traditional” gender or parenting roles, queerness is fluid and present in the ways we show up in our relationships and in the world, and we want to build community with other 30-something Black folx who are trying to figure this ish out.

In this episode, Jenn and Daren dive into the critical issue of food insecurity and the concept of food as medicine. The episode opens with Jenn and Daren sharing their personal relationships with food, shaped by their diverse upbringings. Jenn discusses their upbringing in a food desert and the impact of generational food insecurity on their family. Daren, on the other hand, talks about his childhood in Southern California, where despite having access to food, his choices were often influenced by convenience and taste rather than nutrition. In the Conversation, they delve into the definitions and implications of food deserts and food insecurity. Daren provides a detailed breakdown of the USDA's criteria for food deserts, highlighting the alarming statistics of food insecurity in America. They discuss the severe impact of food deserts on Black and Hispanic communities, particularly single-mother households in the South. The conversation then shifts to the psychological and physical effects of food insecurity, emphasizing the importance of building a healthy relationship with food. Jenn and Daren share their personal journeys of overcoming unhealthy food habits and the significance of teaching their children about nutritious eating. In the Reflection segment, they explore the resurgence of Black farm workers and care workers reconnecting with the land. They highlight the inspiring work of Tanya Denise Fields and other community farm initiatives that challenge stereotypes about Black people's relationship with nature. They discuss the therapeutic benefits of gardening and the importance of reclaiming land and agricultural practices as a form of medicine and empowerment. Reference Material * Tanya Denise Fields and the Black Feminist Project: https://www.theblackfeministproject.org/ * Food for People: Insights to Combat Food Insecurity: https://convoyofhope.org/articles/food-for-people/#:~:text=Food%20Insecurity%20in%20America%202024&text=According%20to%20its%20latest%20research,urban%20and%20rural%20communities%20alike * USDA Key Statistics & Graphics: https://www.ers.usda.gov/topics/food-nutrition-assistance/food-security-in-the-u-s/key-statistics-graphics/ * USDA Economic Research Service: https://www.ers.usda.gov/data-products/food-access-research-atlas/documentation/#:~:text=Using%20this%20measure%2C%20an%20estimated,miles%20from%20the%20nearest%20supermarket * A $300 billion opportunity: Serving the emerging Black American consumer: https://www.mckinsey.com/featured-insights/diversity-and-inclusion/a-300-billion-dollar-opportunity-serving-the-emerging-black-american-consumer Socials: Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/coloredconvosmedia www.ThatBlackCouple.com Email: ThatBLKCouple@gmail.com FB: www.facebook.com/ThatBlackCouple Twitter: www.twitter.com/ThatBlkCouple Instagram: www.instagram.com/thatblkcouple Apple Podcasts: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/id1284072220?mt=2 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2M7GIQlWxG05gGq0bpBwma?si=xSkjzK0BRJW51rjyl3DWvw Pandora: https://www.pandora.com/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/PC:1000149014 Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/That-Black-Couple-Podcast/dp/B0C12M7Q34/ SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/thatblackcouple Podcast Summary: This is an accidentally funny podcast about the realities of Blackness and adult life. We do “adult” differently. We are That Black Couple. Our goal is to create a space for Black millennials to discuss and embody adult life on their own terms. We aren't beholden to “traditional” gender or parenting roles, queerness is fluid and present in the ways we show up in our relationships and in the world, and we want to build community with other 30-something Black folx who are trying to figure this ish out.

In this episode, Jenn and Daren bring the heat with a rundown of recent events and topics they've missed while Jenn was away celebrating their 40th birthday. The episode kicks off with a discussion on COVID-19, highlighting the resurgence of cases and the importance of continuing to take precautions. Jenn shares her observations from her travels, noting the disappointing lack of mask usage and the general complacency around the virus. Daren emphasizes the need for updated vaccinations and the importance of maintaining safety measures as we head into flu season. In the next segment, they dive into the political landscape, focusing on Vice President Kamala Harris's run for president. They discuss the challenges she faces, reflect on the significance of her candidacy, dissect the complexities of supporting a political figure who embodies both progress and problematic policies. The conversation then shifts to the controversy surrounding Rachel Ray Gunn's breakdancing performance at the Olympics, unpacking how the “Rachel Dolezal of breakdancing” has impacted the perception of breakdancing as a sport. To close out the conversation, they tackle the heavy topic of Diddy's legal troubles, discussing the allegations of abuse and the broader implications for the music industry. They highlight the importance of recognizing and addressing abuse, even in powerful figures, and the need for justice for survivors. They close things out discussing the merits and pitfalls of Netflix movies "The Deliverance" and "Rebel Ridge," sharing why Aaron Pierre is our next Black action hero but someone might need to check in on Glenn Close. Reference Material: * Summer COVID surge shows we may have to return to 2020 pandemic measures - https://thehill.com/opinion/healthcare/4850579-covid-19-summer-surge-2024/amp/ * How Raygun made it to the Olympics and divided breaking world - https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4gl34v4r98o * Sean ‘Diddy' Combs jailed by judge after sex trafficking indictment https://apnews.com/article/sean-diddy-combs-arrested-court-5d570cab4625ca5f9dd16dfd7df4437c * Danity Kane's Dawn Richard Sues Sean ‘Diddy' Combs for Sexual Battery and Assault https://variety.com/2024/music/news/sean-diddy-combs-dawn-richard-sued-sexual-battery-assault-1236140939/ * Conservatives Are Melting Down Over Megan Thee Stallion's ‘Hotties for Harris' Performance - https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/megan-thee-stallion-harris-rally-conservative-reactions-1235071528/ Socials: Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/coloredconvosmedia www.ThatBlackCouple.com Email: ThatBLKCouple@gmail.com FB: www.facebook.com/ThatBlackCouple Twitter: www.twitter.com/ThatBlkCouple Instagram: www.instagram.com/thatblkcouple Apple Podcasts: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/id1284072220?mt=2 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2M7GIQlWxG05gGq0bpBwma?si=xSkjzK0BRJW51rjyl3DWvw Pandora: https://www.pandora.com/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/PC:1000149014 Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/That-Black-Couple-Podcast/dp/B0C12M7Q34/ SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/thatblackcouple Podcast Summary: This is an accidentally funny podcast about the realities of Blackness and adult life. We do “adult” differently. We are That Black Couple. Our goal is to create a space for Black millennials to discuss and embody adult life on their own terms. We aren't beholden to “traditional” gender or parenting roles, queerness is fluid and present in the ways we show up in our relationships and in the world, and we want to build community with other 30-something Black folx who are trying to figure this ish out.

In this episode, Jenn and Daren tackle the contentious topic of "Experts Over Influencers and Content Creators." With a mix of humor and candidness, they explore the distinctions between true expertise and the rise of social media personalities. The episode opens with Jenn and Daren discussing the importance of understanding the difference between experts, content creators, and influencers, especially with the Presidential election on the horizon. They highlight the necessity of rigorous training and peer review in establishing true expertise. Jenn and Daren stress the importance of community, training, and practice in developing genuine knowledge, which can't be replaced by social media popularity. In the second segment, Daren shares a fascinating case study involving Terrence Howard and Neil deGrasse Tyson. Howard's controversial claim that "one times one equals two" and Neil deGrasse Tyson's vicious “peer review” underscores the importance of peer review and accountability in maintaining the integrity of knowledge. Jenn references Amanda Seales and the “Origin” movie as examples of people professing to be experts without the accountability that is required to prove that their knowledge has any merit. The episode concludes with a reflection on how to engage appropriately with content on social media. Jenn and Daren discuss the importance of citation ethics and community accountability, encouraging listeners to dig deeper into sources and recognize the difference between entertainment and substantive knowledge. Reference Material: Neil deGrasse Tyson's Response to Terrence Howard - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uLi1I3G2N4 Socials: Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/coloredconvosmedia www.ThatBlackCouple.com Email: ThatBLKCouple@gmail.com FB: www.facebook.com/ThatBlackCouple Twitter: www.twitter.com/ThatBlkCouple Instagram: www.instagram.com/thatblkcouple Apple Podcasts: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/id1284072220?mt=2 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2M7GIQlWxG05gGq0bpBwma?si=xSkjzK0BRJW51rjyl3DWvw Pandora: https://www.pandora.com/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/PC:1000149014 Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/That-Black-Couple-Podcast/dp/B0C12M7Q34/ SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/thatblackcouple Podcast Summary: This is an accidentally funny podcast about the realities of Blackness and adult life. We do “adult” differently. We are That Black Couple. Our goal is to create a space for Black millennials to discuss and embody adult life on their own terms. We aren't beholden to “traditional” gender or parenting roles, queerness is fluid and present in the ways we show up in our relationships and in the world, and we want to build community with other 30-something Black folx who are trying to figure this ish out.

In this episode, Jenn and Daren launch the seventh season by diving into the nuanced topic of boundaries versus walls. They discuss their personal journeys and the importance of setting healthy boundaries in various aspects of life, from relationships to social media to work environments. The episode begins with Jenn sharing insights from Nedra Tawwab's book "Set Boundaries, Find Peace," highlighting the importance of setting boundaries not just with others but also with oneself. They discuss the challenges of maintaining boundaries in relationships, especially when faced with repeated violations. Daren brings up his own experiences with setting boundaries, particularly with family, and the importance of maintaining those boundaries even when it feels difficult. In the Conversation, they explore the difference between boundaries and walls, emphasizing that boundaries are about mutual respect and clear communication, while walls are defensive mechanisms that can hinder healthy relationships. Throughout the episode, Jenn and Daren provide practical examples of how to set and enforce boundaries in various domains, including social media and work environments. They also discuss the importance of recognizing when someone is unable to respect your boundaries and the need to sometimes walk away from those relationships. In the Reflection, Jenn and Daren highlight the importance of knowing oneself and the role of healing in building healthy boundaries. They encourage listeners to examine their own walls and boundaries, offering insights from their personal experiences and research. Reference Material: * Psychology Today: Boundaries - https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/basics/boundaries * “Set Boundaries, Find Peace” by Nedra Tawwab - https://amzn.to/4cz0IMQ “The Body Keeps the Score” by Bessel van der Kolk - https://amzn.to/3X8CSDo * “My Grandmother's Hands” by Resmaa Menakem - https://amzn.to/3yT3oqQ Socials: Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/coloredconvosmedia www.ThatBlackCouple.com Email: ThatBLKCouple@gmail.com FB: www.facebook.com/ThatBlackCouple Twitter: www.twitter.com/ThatBlkCouple Instagram: www.instagram.com/thatblkcouple iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/id1284072220?mt=2 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2M7GIQlWxG05gGq0bpBwma?si=xSkjzK0BRJW51rjyl3DWvw Pandora: https://www.pandora.com/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/PC:1000149014 Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/That-Black-Couple-Podcast/dp/B0C12M7Q34/ SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/thatblackcouple Podcast Summary: This is an accidentally funny podcast about the realities of Blackness and adult life. We do “adult” differently. We are That Black Couple. Our goal is to create a space for Black millennials to discuss and embody adult life on their own terms. We aren't beholden to “traditional” gender or parenting roles, queerness is fluid and present in the ways we show up in our relationships and in the world, and we want to build community with other 30-something Black folx who are trying to figure this ish out.

In this episode, Jenn and Daren delve into the significance of Black lesbian visibility during Pride Month. With a mix of humor and heartfelt reflection, they explore the resurgence of Black lesbian representation in media and society, emphasizing why it matters now more than ever. The episode kicks off with Jenn and Daren sharing their excitement for Pride celebrations. In the first segment, they discuss the current wave of Black lesbian visibility, highlighting notable figures like Tracy Chapman, Meshell Ndegeocello, and the cast of "Hoochie Daddies." They express their joy in seeing diverse representations of Black lesbians in media and the positive impact it has on the community. In the second segment, they contrast the experiences of white lesbians in entertainment, such as Ellen DeGeneres and Kristen Stewart, with those of Black lesbians like Raven Symoné and Lena Waithe. They discuss the unique challenges Black lesbians face and the systemic barriers that hinder their visibility and success. The episode concludes with a reflection on the importance of Pride Month, especially in the current socio-political climate. Jenn and Daren emphasize the roots of Pride as a rebellion led by Black and brown queer and trans individuals and the need to honor that legacy by continuing to fight for visibility and rights. Reference Material: * Yes Magazine - Going Outside for Pride - https://www.yesmagazine.org/article/going-outside-for-pride * 'Hunger Games' star Amandla Stenberg: 'Yep, I'm gay, not bi or pan' - https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/2018/06/18/amandla-stenberg-yep-im-gay-not-bi-pan/712154002 * Stonewall Riots: A Documentary History - https://www.stonewallhistory.com * Hoochie Daddies - https://www.hoochiedaddies.com Socials: www.ThatBlackCouple.com FB: www.facebook.com/ThatBlackCouple Twitter: www.twitter.com/ThatBlkCouple Instagram: www.instagram.com/thatblkcouple Apple Podcasts: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/id1284072220?mt=2 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2M7GIQlWxG05gGq0bpBwma?si=xSkjzK0BRJW51rjyl3DWvw Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/That-Black-Couple-Podcast/dp/B0C12M7Q34/ Pandora: https://www.pandora.com/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/PC:1000149014 SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/thatblackcouple Email: ThatBLKCouple@gmail.com Podcast Summary: This is an accidentally funny podcast about the realities of Blackness and adult life. We do “adult” differently. We are That Black Couple. Our goal is to create a space for Black millennials to discuss and embody adult life on their own terms. We aren't beholden to “traditional” gender or parenting roles, queerness is fluid and present in the ways we show up in our relationships and in the world, and we want to build community with other 30-something Black folx who are trying to figure this ish out.

In this episode, Jenn and Daren dive deep into the exploitation of Black labor, drawing from their personal experiences working for Disney. They shed light on the harsh realities faced by Disney workers, particularly Black employees, and discuss the broader implications of these labor practices within the context of American capitalism. The episode begins with Jenn and Daren discussing the recent viral video of Disney characters unionizing and the importance of labor unions in protecting workers' rights. They then share anecdotes from the time they each spent at Disney, revealing the less-than-magical side of the company including the exploitation of part-time workers, overt racism and anti-Blackness. In the second segment, Jenn and Daren broaden the conversation to include the systemic issues that Black workers face across various industries. They cite statistics from the Bureau of Labor Statistics and the Brookings Institute to illustrate the disparities in employment and pay for Black workers, and discuss the additional challenges faced by Black women and men in the workplace. The episode concludes with a reflection on the importance of mental health and work-life balance, particularly for Black workers navigating hostile work environments. Jenn shares her personal journey from STEM to academia and the pressures she faced, while Daren emphasizes the need for self-care and ethical work practices. Reference Material: https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/08/31/black-workers-views-and-experiences-in-the-us-labor-force-stand-out-in-key-ways/#:~:text=Black%20Americans%20make%20up%20large,time%20and%20are%20self%2Demployed https://www.pewresearch.org/science/2022/04/07/black-americans-views-of-education-and-professional-opportunities-in-science-technology-engineering-and-math/ https://www.epi.org/indicators/state-unemployment-race-ethnicity/ https://www.brookings.edu/articles/why-are-employment-rates-so-low-among-black-men/ S1E5 - The Erasure of Black Women's Work - https://soundcloud.com/thatblackcouple/episode-5-the-erasure-of-black-womens-work Rutgers doctoral student gives birth on same day she defends dissertation - https://abc7ny.com/post/rutgers-doctoral-student-goes-into-early-labor-gives-birth-on-same-day-she-defends-dissertation-from-hospital/14780220/ Why I will no longer use my unpaid labor to discuss race in America with white people - https://watercoolerconvos.com/2017/09/10/will-no-longer-use-unpaid-labor-discuss-race-america-white-people/ On Nnedi Okorafor and when Hollywood values our work but erases our names - https://watercoolerconvos.com/2017/09/14/nnedi-okorafor-erasure/ www.ThatBlackCouple.com FB: www.facebook.com/ThatBlackCouple Twitter: www.twitter.com/ThatBlkCouple Instagram: www.instagram.com/thatblkcouple iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/id1284072220?mt=2 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2M7GIQlWxG05gGq0bpBwma?si=xSkjzK0BRJW51rjyl3DWvw Stitcher: www.stitcher.com/podcast/that-black-couple Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/That-Black-Couple-Podcast/dp/B0C12M7Q34/ Pandora: https://www.pandora.com/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/PC:1000149014 SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/thatblackcouple Google Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cDovL2ZlZWRzLnNvdW5kY2xvdWQuY29tL3VzZXJzL3NvdW5kY2xvdWQ6dXNlcnM6Mjc2MDExMzcwL3NvdW5kcy5yc3M Email: ThatBLKCouple@gmail.com Podcast Summary: This is an accidentally funny podcast about the realities of Blackness and adult life. We do “adult” differently. We are That Black Couple. Our goal is to create a space for Black millennials to discuss and embody adult life on their own terms. We aren't beholden to “traditional” gender or parenting roles, queerness is fluid and present in the ways we show up in our relationships and in the world, and we want to build community with other 30-something Black folx who are trying to figure this ish out.

In this episode, Jenn and Daren delve into the harrowing topic of domestic violence and physical abuse, focusing on the entertainment and music industries where violence against women, especially Black women, is rampant. They urge listeners to take care of themselves and provide resources for victims and survivors of abuse at the end of the episode. The conversation begins with the recent allegations against Diddy and the leaked video of his violent behavior towards Cassie. Jenn and Daren dissect Diddy's non-apology and the broader implications of such public displays of violence. Then, they cover the disturbing case of DJ Akademiks, who has been accused of heinous acts of abuse and has threatened to expose others in the industry. The conversation extends to other known abusers in the entertainment industry, stressing the need for accountability and support for victims. In the third segment, Jenn and Daren highlight the toxic culture that enables abusers to thrive, emphasizing the importance of believing victims and holding abusers accountable. It will take the community of people around abusers speaking up to break the cycle of harm. If you or someone you know is experiencing domestic violence, please contact the National Domestic Violence Hotline at 1-800-799-7233. You can also text the word "BEGIN" to 88788. For sexual assault resources, contact the National Sexual Assault Hotline at 1-800-656-HOPE (4673). These resources are available 24/7 and are 100% confidential. Reference Material: * National Domestic Violence Hotline - https://www.thehotline.org/ * RAINN: Rape, Abuse & Incest National Network - https://www.rainn.org/ * What Happens to Famous Black Men Following Domestic Violence and Sexual Assault Allegations? - https://www.theroot.com/what-happens-to-famous-black-men-following-domestic-vio-1851293287 * S6E5 - Recognizing Sexual Assault Awareness Month - https://soundcloud.com/thatblackcouple/s6e5-recognizing-sexual-assault-awareness-month * Franchesca Ramsey (@chescaleigh) “Let's make a narcissist's apology from scratch” - https://www.instagram.com/chescaleigh/reel/C7M6NazyGvg/?hl=en * Dr. Jessica Taylor (@DrJessTaylor)FAMOUS MAN ABUSING WOMEN Script - https://x.com/DrJessTaylor/status/1792254495130341604?s=19 www.ThatBlackCouple.com FB: www.facebook.com/ThatBlackCouple Twitter: www.twitter.com/ThatBlkCouple Instagram: www.instagram.com/thatblkcouple Apple Podcasts: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/id1284072220?mt=2 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2M7GIQlWxG05gGq0bpBwma?si=xSkjzK0BRJW51rjyl3DWvw Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/That-Black-Couple-Podcast/dp/B0C12M7Q34/ Pandora: https://www.pandora.com/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/PC:1000149014 SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/thatblackcouple Email: ThatBLKCouple@gmail.com Podcast Summary: This is an accidentally funny podcast about the realities of Blackness and adult life. We do “adult” differently. We are That Black Couple. Our goal is to create a space for Black millennials to discuss and embody adult life on their own terms. We aren't beholden to “traditional” gender or parenting roles, queerness is fluid and present in the ways we show up in our relationships and in the world, and we want to build community with other 30-something Black folx who are trying to figure this ish out.

In this episode, Jenn and Daren ask the questions “what qualifies as rest” and "what does it take for rest to qualify as resistance?” In the second segment, Jenn and Daren discuss the sleep deficit that Black people face and how the quality of their sleep is far poorer than others. With that in mind, they outline how rest can take the form of resistance and what types of activities are included under the umbrella of rest. Jenn then does a deep dive into the concept of "deviance as resistance" and why we can't take books like “Rest Is Resistance” at face value. We have to do the reading and do the work for our rest to not be solely a selfish act. In the third segment, Jenn and Daren share some tools that make rest resistance. They also encourage everyone to be intentional and thoughtful about the type of rest they need and how they are going to get it. Reference Material: * S2E20 - Black Sleep Matters - https://soundcloud.com/thatblackcouple/thatblackcouple-ep-20-black-sleep-matters * https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/do-black-americans-get-less-sleep-than-white-americans#overview * Rest Is Resistance: A Manifesto by Tricia Hersey - https://amzn.to/3VdIHOM www.ThatBlackCouple.com FB: www.facebook.com/ThatBlackCouple Twitter: www.twitter.com/ThatBlkCouple Instagram: www.instagram.com/thatblkcouple iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/id1284072220?mt=2 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2M7GIQlWxG05gGq0bpBwma?si=xSkjzK0BRJW51rjyl3DWvw Stitcher: www.stitcher.com/podcast/that-black-couple Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/That-Black-Couple-Podcast/dp/B0C12M7Q34/ Pandora: https://www.pandora.com/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/PC:1000149014 SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/thatblackcouple Google Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cDovL2ZlZWRzLnNvdW5kY2xvdWQuY29tL3VzZXJzL3NvdW5kY2xvdWQ6dXNlcnM6Mjc2MDExMzcwL3NvdW5kcy5yc3M Email: ThatBLKCouple@gmail.com Podcast Summary: This is an accidentally funny podcast about the realities of Blackness and adult life. We do “adult” differently. We are That Black Couple. Our goal is to create a space for Black millennials to discuss and embody adult life on their own terms. We aren't beholden to “traditional” gender or parenting roles, queerness is fluid and present in the ways we show up in our relationships and in the world, and we want to build community with other 30-something Black folx who are trying to figure this ish out.

In this episode, Jenn and Daren bring to light April as Autism Acceptance Month by highlighting the unique experience of being Black and neurodivergent, focusing specifically on autism. In the first segment, Jenn shares her own experience of being a Black neurodivergent person and conversations she has had online with Black autistic people around their difficulties in understanding social cues. Daren highlights the importance of including a young Black lesbian woman named Journey on the Netflix show “Love on the Spectrum.” In the second segment, Daren foregrounds the conversation in the history of the autism diagnosis, defining the spectrum of autistic disorders (ASD) and how non-white people have been largely diagnosed later (or not at all) in comparison to white people.Jenn focuses on the real challenges Black autistic people face throughout their lives and in every area of society, including institutional dangers. In the third segment, Jenn and Daren offer resources and support networks that people can take advantage of including organizations like The Color of Autism Foundation and social media platforms like Dr. Sam (_simplysr on TikTok). Reference Material: * CDC: Signs and Symptoms of Autism Spectrum Disorder - https://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/autism/signs.html#:~:text=Autism%20spectrum%20disorder%20(ASD)%20is,%2C%20 moving%2C%20 or%20 paying%20 attention * Why Do Black Children With Autism Get Diagnosed Late? - https://childmind.org/article/why-do-black-children-with-autism-get-diagnosed-late/ * Autism now more common among Black, Hispanic kids in US - https://apnews.com/article/how-common-is-autism-e38179682e2759b0aff9c017bf7ebf61 * Healthline: For Neurodivergent Black Adults, What's in a Diagnosis? Nia's Story - https://www.healthline.com/health/adhd/nias-adhd-autism-story * TIME: Black, Disabled and at Risk: The Overlooked Problem of Police Violence Against Americans with Disabilities - https://time.com/5857438/police-violence-black-disabled/ * The Color of Autism Foundation - https://thecolorofautism.org/ * The HollyRod Foundation - https://hollyrod.org/ Autism Society Screening & Diagnosis for BIPOC Communities - https://autismsociety.org/february-resources-black-history-month-screening-diagnosis-for-bipoc-communities/ * Dr. Sam (_simplysr on TikTok) https://www.tiktok.com/@_simplysr * S5E7 - Black Mental Health Check-In - https://soundcloud.com/thatblackcouple/s5e7-black-mental-health-check-in * S4E10 - Mental Health Awareness Month Debrief - https://soundcloud.com/thatblackcouple/thatblackcouple-season-4-episode-10-mental-health-awareness-month-debrief www.ThatBlackCouple.com FB: www.facebook.com/ThatBlackCouple Twitter: www.twitter.com/ThatBlkCouple Instagram: www.instagram.com/thatblkcouple iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/id1284072220?mt=2 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2M7GIQlWxG05gGq0bpBwma?si=xSkjzK0BRJW51rjyl3DWvw Stitcher: www.stitcher.com/podcast/that-black-couple Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/That-Black-Couple-Podcast/dp/B0C12M7Q34/ Pandora: https://www.pandora.com/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/PC:1000149014 SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/thatblackcouple Google Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cDovL2ZlZWRzLnNvdW5kY2xvdWQuY29tL3VzZXJzL3NvdW5kY2xvdWQ6dXNlcnM6Mjc2MDExMzcwL3NvdW5kcy5yc3M Email: ThatBLKCouple@gmail.com Podcast Summary: This is an accidentally funny podcast about the realities of Blackness and adult life. We do “adult” differently. We are That Black Couple. Our goal is to create a space for Black millennials to discuss and embody adult life on their own terms. We aren't beholden to “traditional” gender or parenting roles, queerness is fluid and present in the ways we show up in our relationships and in the world, and we want to build community with other 30-something Black folx who are trying to figure this ish out.

In this episode, Jenn and Daren highlight Sexual Assault and Prevention Month. In the first segment, Jenn shares how sexual assault is an unavoidable part of her Black Politics course, and Daren shares his experience watching the “Quiet On Set” documentary that exposes the mistreatment and abuse of child actors at Nickelodeon during the 1990's. In the second segment, Jenn and Daren dive deeper into this topic, explaining what constitutes sexual assault or harrassment. Daren shares troubling statistics about sexual assault and the pair talk about how the state and government are not setup to appropriately support and protect the most vulnerable of us. And it is no surprise when the current 2 candidates for U.S. President are known abusers. In the end, we all have a responsibility to hold each other accountable for abusing or harassing behavior. In the third segment, Jenn and Daren discuss their personal experiences with sexual assault and harrassment. For Daren, he shared how this is a continual problem he faces as an asexual man, and Jenn shares how her most recent relationship ended due to her partner's friend assaulting her and her partner not properly protecting them or addressing the issue. If you or someone you know experienced sexual assault and is seeking resources, contact the National Sexual Assault Hotline at 1-800-656-HOPE (4673) or rainn.org. Reference Material: * National Sexual Violence Resource Center (NSVRC) - https://www.nsvrc.org/statistics * Fast Facts: Preventing Sexual Violence - ttps://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/sexualviolence/fastfact.html * The Not Rape Epidemic (Latoya Peterson) - https://deadwildroses.com/2014/03/19/the-not-rape-epidemic-latoya-peterson/ Hood Feminism: Notes from the Women That a Movement Forgot Hardcover (Mikki Kendall) - https://amzn.to/4cTXd5b www.ThatBlackCouple.com Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/coloredconvosmedia FB: www.facebook.com/ThatBlackCouple Twitter: www.twitter.com/ThatBlkCouple Instagram: www.instagram.com/thatblkcouple iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/id1284072220?mt=2 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2M7GIQlWxG05gGq0bpBwma?si=xSkjzK0BRJW51rjyl3DWvw Stitcher: www.stitcher.com/podcast/that-black-couple Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/That-Black-Couple-Podcast/dp/B0C12M7Q34/ Pandora: https://www.pandora.com/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/PC:1000149014 SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/thatblackcouple Google Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cDovL2ZlZWRzLnNvdW5kY2xvdWQuY29tL3VzZXJzL3NvdW5kY2xvdWQ6dXNlcnM6Mjc2MDExMzcwL3NvdW5kcy5yc3M Email: ThatBLKCouple@gmail.com Podcast Summary: This is an accidentally funny podcast about the realities of Blackness and adult life. We do “adult” differently. We are That Black Couple. Our goal is to create a space for Black millennials to discuss and embody adult life on their own terms. We aren't beholden to “traditional” gender or parenting roles, queerness is fluid and present in the ways we show up in our relationships and in the world, and we want to build community with other 30-something Black folx who are trying to figure this ish out.

In this Rundown episode, Jenn and Daren get caught up on recent pop culture news. They start off talking about how apt it is that during Sexual Assault Awareness and Prevention Month, it appears that accused abusers like Sea “Diddy” Combs and Russell Simmons are being held accountable. While they are not advocates of the carceral system of punishment, they are fully behind restorative justice, and accountability is a cornerstone of that. In the second segment, Jenn and Daren give updates on the political landscape, from Joe Biden's star-studded fundraiser to Candice Owens getting fired from Daily Wire to the collapse of the Francis Scott Key Bridge. In each instance, they highlight how politically misguided the country is at the moment. At a time where literal genocides are happening, a flashy fundraiser at Radio City Music Hall might look a bit tone deaf. Candice Owens has been a blight for the Black community for years, but her finding her way to Black media after being fired shows the media's willingness to platform anybody or anything that will draw eyeballs, ears, or clicks. And when the Francis Scott Key bridge collapsed, conservative voices focused on trying to blame it on failed immigration policies or DEI, instead of mourning the loss of life and advocating for its restoration. In the third segment, Jenn and Daren reflect on the space Shaun King and Amanda Seales take up in our culture.Shaun King has been accused of being a grifter for years, and his conversion to Islam to stand “in solidarity” with Palestinians feels like more of the same. And after Amanda Seales complained about articles pointing out that she might be getting iced out Black Hollywood because people might not enjoy working with her, it is time for folks to look at themselves in the mirror and take accountability for their actions. Everything can't be someone else's fault. Sometimes you create your own problems. Reference Material: S2E26 - Why We Aren't Rooting For Everybody Black - https://soundcloud.com/thatblackcouple/thatblackcouple-ep-26-why-we-arent-rooting-for-everybody-black S1E8 - Harvey Weinstein and Gaslighting as Culture - https://soundcloud.com/thatblackcouple/thatblackcouple-ep-8-harvey-weinstein-and-gaslighting-as-culture Op-Ed: It's Time To Admit That Being Liked Is More Important Than Being Good At Your Job - https://www.essence.com/news/money-career/amanda-seales-competence-likability-career/ Amanda Seales is not a victim of anything but her own hubris - https://thegrio.com/2024/04/02/amanda-seales-is-not-a-victim-of-anything-but-her-own-hubris/ www.ThatBlackCouple.com FB: www.facebook.com/ThatBlackCouple Twitter: www.twitter.com/ThatBlkCouple Instagram: www.instagram.com/thatblkcouple iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/id1284072220?mt=2 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2M7GIQlWxG05gGq0bpBwma?si=xSkjzK0BRJW51rjyl3DWvw Stitcher: www.stitcher.com/podcast/that-black-couple Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/That-Black-Couple-Podcast/dp/B0C12M7Q34/ Pandora: https://www.pandora.com/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/PC:1000149014 SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/thatblackcouple Google Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cDovL2ZlZWRzLnNvdW5kY2xvdWQuY29tL3VzZXJzL3NvdW5kY2xvdWQ6dXNlcnM6Mjc2MDExMzcwL3NvdW5kcy5yc3M Email: ThatBLKCouple@gmail.com Podcast Summary: This is an accidentally funny podcast about the realities of Blackness and adult life. We do “adult” differently. We are That Black Couple. Our goal is to create a space for Black millennials to discuss and embody adult life on their own terms. We aren't beholden to “traditional” gender or parenting roles, queerness is fluid and present in the ways we show up in our relationships and in the world, and we want to build community with other 30-something Black folx who are trying to figure this ish out.

In this “Where Have You Been?” episode, Jenn and Daren let everyone know where they have been for the last few weeks. They start things off by talking about their recent spot in Huffington Post Black Voices series “Black Love on Our Terms,” in which they share how their relationship works and how others can use their model to find love on their own terms. They follow that up with an account of Jenn's hospital stay and the challenges of being a Black woman in the care of modern day doctors. In the second segment, Jenn and Daren detail how Jenn's book tour has progressed in support of her book “Black Women Taught Us.” This isn't your regular book signing, as their events start with a practitioner grounding the space and build a conversation not just about “Black Women Taught Us,” but about the centering and honoring of Black women. In the third segment, Jenn and Daren focus on Women's History Month, but championing the Black women we come into contact with everyday. In “Black Women Taught Us,” Jenn models this behavior by putting the personal people in their life who have shaped who they are in conversation with more well-known names whose contributions are largely overlooked or taken for granted. Jenn and Daren encourage everyone to celebrate all the women in their lives in this same way, recognizing the role they play in keeping us alive and safe. Reference Material: * The Dynamics Of This Relationship Will Expand Your Definition Of Black Love - https://www.huffpost.com/entry/that-black-couple-jenn-daren-jackson_n_65ce9b22e4b043f1c0aa8cea * Black Women Taught Us by Jenn M. Jackson - amzn.to/48e8iKH www.ThatBlackCouple.com FB: www.facebook.com/ThatBlackCouple Twitter: www.twitter.com/ThatBlkCouple Instagram: www.instagram.com/thatblkcouple iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/id1284072220?mt=2 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2M7GIQlWxG05gGq0bpBwma?si=xSkjzK0BRJW51rjyl3DWvw Stitcher: www.stitcher.com/podcast/that-black-couple Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/That-Black-Couple-Podcast/dp/B0C12M7Q34/ Pandora: https://www.pandora.com/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/PC:1000149014 SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/thatblackcouple Google Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cDovL2ZlZWRzLnNvdW5kY2xvdWQuY29tL3VzZXJzL3NvdW5kY2xvdWQ6dXNlcnM6Mjc2MDExMzcwL3NvdW5kcy5yc3M Email: ThatBLKCouple@gmail.com Podcast Summary: This is an accidentally funny podcast about the realities of Blackness and adult life. We do “adult” differently. We are That Black Couple. Our goal is to create a space for Black millennials to discuss and embody adult life on their own terms. We aren't beholden to “traditional” gender or parenting roles, queerness is fluid and present in the ways we show up in our relationships and in the world, and we want to build community with other 30-something Black folx who are trying to figure this ish out.

In this rundown episode, Jenn and Daren catch up on important happenings from the last few weeks. In the first segment, they recap the high points of Megan Thee Stallion's “HISS” and Nicki Minaj's failure of a response “Big Foot.” In the second segment, Jenn and Daren highlight the wins Black folx took home from the 2024 Grammys and Oscars, celebrating the achievements of artists such as Victoria Monet, Coco Jones, and Samara Joy. In turn they question the status of a music industry where Killa Mike wins top rap honors and Jay-Z is awarded a Dr. Dre Global Impact award. On the film side, they lament an industry still awarding Black women for playing mammies (Da'Vine Joy Randolph from “The Holdovers”), finding a home for “I Don't Unbend My Elbows Barbie” (aka Issa Rae), and allowing Tyler Perry to continue making movies like Tyler Perry's “Mea Culpa.” In the third segment, they close things out on a positive note, spotlighting a recent $100M award granted to Spelman College and a donation made in the name of supporting Black college students from Lloyd & Janice Dong. www.ThatBlackCouple.com FB: www.facebook.com/ThatBlackCouple Twitter: www.twitter.com/ThatBlkCouple Instagram: www.instagram.com/thatblkcouple iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/id1284072220?mt=2 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2M7GIQlWxG05gGq0bpBwma?si=xSkjzK0BRJW51rjyl3DWvw Stitcher: www.stitcher.com/podcast/that-black-couple Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/That-Black-Couple-Podcast/dp/B0C12M7Q34/ Pandora: https://www.pandora.com/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/PC:1000149014 SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/thatblackcouple Google Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cDovL2ZlZWRzLnNvdW5kY2xvdWQuY29tL3VzZXJzL3NvdW5kY2xvdWQ6dXNlcnM6Mjc2MDExMzcwL3NvdW5kcy5yc3M Email: ThatBLKCouple@gmail.com Podcast Summary: This is an accidentally funny podcast about the realities of Blackness and adult life. We do “adult” differently. We are That Black Couple. Our goal is to create a space for Black millennials to discuss and embody adult life on their own terms. We aren't beholden to “traditional” gender or parenting roles, queerness is fluid and present in the ways we show up in our relationships and in the world, and we want to build community with other 30-something Black folx who are trying to figure this ish out.

In this episode, Jenn and Daren welcome everyone into the new year with an update on everything that is going on with them. Since the end of the last season, Jenn's book "Black Women Taught Us" is available for purchase, Daren had eye surgery, and they have released people who couldn't respect boundaries. They urge everyone listening to radically choose themselves in 2024 and see how much better life is on that side. They also look forward to everything that they are setting out to accomplish in 2024. This includes the continuation of their popular writing programs, engaging with listeners more, sharing who is working on the team behind the scenes, and the launch of their literary magazine WaterCooler Literary. Reference Material: * Black Women Taught Us by Jenn M. Jackson - https://amzn.to/48e8iKH www.ThatBlackCouple.com FB: www.facebook.com/ThatBlackCouple Twitter: www.twitter.com/ThatBlkCouple Instagram: www.instagram.com/thatblkcouple iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/id1284072220?mt=2 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2M7GIQlWxG05gGq0bpBwma?si=xSkjzK0BRJW51rjyl3DWvw Stitcher: www.stitcher.com/podcast/that-black-couple Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/That-Black-Couple-Podcast/dp/B0C12M7Q34/ Pandora: https://www.pandora.com/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/PC:1000149014 SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/thatblackcouple Google Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cDovL2ZlZWRzLnNvdW5kY2xvdWQuY29tL3VzZXJzL3NvdW5kY2xvdWQ6dXNlcnM6Mjc2MDExMzcwL3NvdW5kcy5yc3M Email: ThatBLKCouple@gmail.com Podcast Summary: This is an accidentally funny podcast about the realities of Blackness and adult life. We do “adult” differently. We are That Black Couple. Our goal is to create a space for Black millennials to discuss and embody adult life on their own terms. We aren't beholden to “traditional” gender or parenting roles, queerness is fluid and present in the ways we show up in our relationships and in the world, and we want to build community with other 30-something Black folx who are trying to figure this ish out.

In this second part of their holiday themed episode, Jenn and Daren talk about the importance of chosen family, and not just for queer communities. With Jenn's partner Jamelle as a guest, they share how they celebrated the holiday season together as a poly family. In survey after survey, it shows that people, especially younger generations, are increasingly dreading going to family events. And some of the prime reasons for this are ideological differences and offensive lines of questioning. If the point of family holiday gatherings is togetherness, why do over half of Gen-Zers report having a heated argument at them? The trio share the circumstances of them having to “release people” and how fulfilling alternative celebrations have been in their lives. Moving away from traditional family and traditional structures can be difficult, but they stress how much better it was to center their own joy and happiness. It also creates an opportunity to honor the traditions that are meaningful and to build new ones. They close things out by looking ahead and choosing a word that describes how they are moving forward into 2024. Reference Material: PREORDER Black Women Taught Us: An Intimate History of Black Feminism by Jenn M. Jackson PhD - https://amzn.to/3N5m4Yg Set Boundaries, Find Peace, The Set Boundaries Workbook 2 Books Collection Set By Nedra Glover Tawwab - https://amzn.to/47Frf9U What ‘Chosen Family' Means — and How to Build Your Own - https://www.healthline.com/health/relationships/chosen-family More than 1 in 3 Gen Zers are choosing friends over family this holiday season - https://fortune.com/well/2023/12/13/1-in-3-gen-z-friends-family-holiday-season-avoid-drama-key/amp/ Survey: Nearly 85% of Americans avoid family over the holidays - https://www.usatoday.com/money/blueprint/travel-insurance/holiday-traditions/ 5 Unexpected Insights About People Who Celebrate Friendsgiving - https://civicscience.com/5-Unexpected-Insights-About-People-Who-Celebrate-Friendsgiving www.ThatBlackCouple.com FB: www.facebook.com/ThatBlackCouple Twitter: www.twitter.com/ThatBlkCouple Instagram: www.instagram.com/thatblkcouple iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/id1284072220?mt=2 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2M7GIQlWxG05gGq0bpBwma?si=xSkjzK0BRJW51rjyl3DWvw Stitcher: www.stitcher.com/podcast/that-black-couple Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/That-Black-Couple-Podcast/dp/B0C12M7Q34/ Pandora: https://www.pandora.com/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/PC:1000149014 SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/thatblackcouple Google Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cDovL2ZlZWRzLnNvdW5kY2xvdWQuY29tL3VzZXJzL3NvdW5kY2xvdWQ6dXNlcnM6Mjc2MDExMzcwL3NvdW5kcy5yc3M Email: ThatBLKCouple@gmail.com Podcast Summary: This is an accidentally funny podcast about the realities of Blackness and adult life. We do “adult” differently. We are That Black Couple. Our goal is to create a space for Black millennials to discuss and embody adult life on their own terms. We aren't beholden to “traditional” gender or parenting roles, queerness is fluid and present in the ways we show up in our relationships and in the world, and we want to build community with other 30-something Black folx who are trying to figure this ish out.

In this holiday themed episode, Jenn and Daren talk about how celebrating the holidays in a non-traditional way can sometimes be the way that best serves you. The queer community has a legacy of chosen families, building families not based on blood but based on the community that loves and supports you. For much of their lives, Jenn and Daren operated under the traditional framework that you celebrate the holidays with your family, even if that family was full of people that mistreated you, made you uncomfortable, or were generally not fun to be around. But once they chose to celebrate the holidays with the people they built a community with the other 364 days of the year, the entire experience became much more enjoyable. This is a symptom of the broader importance of boundary setting. People in your family are not due any special form of treatment. If they cross, disrespect, or outright ignore your boundaries, they are not worthy of your time, energy, or presence. If they loved you and were showing up the right way, they would either support your decision to not take part in an event that violated your boundaries or make the effort to make the space somewhere that accommodated your needs. Reference Material: PREORDER Black Women Taught Us: An Intimate History of Black Feminism by Jenn M. Jackson PhD - https://amzn.to/3N5m4Yg Set Boundaries, Find Peace, The Set Boundaries Workbook 2 Books Collection Set By Nedra Glover Tawwab - https://amzn.to/47Frf9U What ‘Chosen Family' Means — and How to Build Your Own - https://www.healthline.com/health/relationships/chosen-family www.ThatBlackCouple.com FB: www.facebook.com/ThatBlackCouple Twitter: www.twitter.com/ThatBlkCouple Instagram: www.instagram.com/thatblkcouple iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/id1284072220?mt=2 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2M7GIQlWxG05gGq0bpBwma?si=xSkjzK0BRJW51rjyl3DWvw Stitcher: www.stitcher.com/podcast/that-black-couple Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/That-Black-Couple-Podcast/dp/B0C12M7Q34/ Pandora: https://www.pandora.com/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/PC:1000149014 SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/thatblackcouple Google Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cDovL2ZlZWRzLnNvdW5kY2xvdWQuY29tL3VzZXJzL3NvdW5kY2xvdWQ6dXNlcnM6Mjc2MDExMzcwL3NvdW5kcy5yc3M Email: ThatBLKCouple@gmail.com Podcast Summary: This is an accidentally funny podcast about the realities of Blackness and adult life. We do “adult” differently. We are That Black Couple. Our goal is to create a space for Black millennials to discuss and embody adult life on their own terms. We aren't beholden to “traditional” gender or parenting roles, queerness is fluid and present in the ways we show up in our relationships and in the world, and we want to build community with other 30-something Black folx who are trying to figure this ish out.

In this queer themed episode, Jenn and Daren celebrate LGBT History Month and Asexuality Awareness Week by marking the importance of “self-naming” and the power of being able to define yourself for yourself outside of society's rules and standards. They talk about vulnerable queer youth and how self-naming can be a source of empowerment for them, and furthermore, how acceptance from their family and friends can lead to healthier life outcomes. From there, they discuss the difference between “coming out and “welcoming in” and the challenge of overcoming guilt and shame around your own identity. They close out the episode with a discussion of pronouns, why people choose different pronouns, and why using someone's chosen pronouns is an act of seeing and respecting someone as they would like to be seen and respected. It's basic human decency and respect. Reference Material: * The Trevor Project 2022 National Survey on LGBTQ Youth Mental Health - https://www.thetrevorproject.org/survey-2022/ * Williams Institute at UCLA School of Law: New estimates show 300,000 youth ages 13-17 identify as transgender in the US - https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/press/transgender-estimate-press-release/ * New HRC Data Reveals Over Half of Transgender Youth Ages 13-17 Could Soon Face Barriers to Life-Saving, Medically Necessary Gender Affirming Care - https://www.hrc.org/press-releases/new-hrc-data-reveals-over-half-of-transgender-youth-ages-13-17-could-soon-face-barriers-to-life-saving-medically-necessary-gender-affirming-care www.ThatBlackCouple.com FB: www.facebook.com/ThatBlackCouple Twitter: www.twitter.com/ThatBlkCouple Instagram: www.instagram.com/thatblkcouple iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/id1284072220?mt=2 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2M7GIQlWxG05gGq0bpBwma?si=xSkjzK0BRJW51rjyl3DWvw Stitcher: www.stitcher.com/podcast/that-black-couple Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/That-Black-Couple-Podcast/dp/B0C12M7Q34/ Pandora: https://www.pandora.com/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/PC:1000149014 SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/thatblackcouple Google Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cDovL2ZlZWRzLnNvdW5kY2xvdWQuY29tL3VzZXJzL3NvdW5kY2xvdWQ6dXNlcnM6Mjc2MDExMzcwL3NvdW5kcy5yc3M Email: ThatBLKCouple@gmail.com Podcast Summary: This is an accidentally funny podcast about the realities of Blackness and adult life. We do “adult” differently. We are That Black Couple. Our goal is to create a space for Black millennials to discuss and embody adult life on their own terms. We aren't beholden to “traditional” gender or parenting roles, queerness is fluid and present in the ways we show up in our relationships and in the world, and we want to build community with other 30-something Black folx who are trying to figure this ish out.

In this episode, Jenn and Daren mark World Mental Health Day (October 10) with a much needed mental health check-in. As the season changes, temperatures drop, and the state of the world is constantly changing, it is important that we check-in with ourselves and with each other to make sure that we are each OK. They emphasize how the trauma of going through the COVID-19 pandemic has impacted marginalized communities especially in relationship with work. As employment has risen steeply we must keep in mind that 46% of U.S. workers who receive paid time off from their employer take less time than they are offered and Black workers are almost twice as likely than White workers to say that they take less time off for fear of losing their job. We need to change our way of thinking around taking time off. It is a necessity. Do it for your mental health. Reference Material: Black, Hispanic Americans are Overrepresented in Essential Jobs - https://publichealth.uic.edu/news-stories/black-hispanic-americans-are-overrepresented-in-essential-jobs/ Black and Hispanic workers are much less likely to be able to telework - https://www.epi.org/blog/black-and-hispanic-workers-are-much-less-likely-to-be-able-to-work-from-home/ Paycheck or caring for family? Without paid leave, people of color often must make the ‘impossible choice' - https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2021/03/19/paid-leave-shortfall-during-covid-means-job-pay-losses/4730902001/ An unemployment rate milestone for Black Americans - https://www.axios.com/2023/05/05/unemployment-rate-milestone-black-americans Pandemic Shifts in Black Employment and Wages - https://www.whitehouse.gov/cea/written-materials/2022/08/24/pandemic-shifts-in-black-employment-and-wages/ More than 4 in 10 U.S. workers don't take all their paid time off - https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/08/10/more-than-4-in-10-u-s-workers-dont-take-all-their-paid-time-off/ About EDMR Therapy - https://www.emdria.org/about-emdr-therapy/ www.ThatBlackCouple.com FB: www.facebook.com/ThatBlackCouple Twitter: www.twitter.com/ThatBlkCouple Instagram: www.instagram.com/thatblkcouple iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/id1284072220?mt=2 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2M7GIQlWxG05gGq0bpBwma?si=xSkjzK0BRJW51rjyl3DWvw Stitcher: www.stitcher.com/podcast/that-black-couple Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/That-Black-Couple-Podcast/dp/B0C12M7Q34/ Pandora: https://www.pandora.com/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/PC:1000149014 SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/thatblackcouple Google Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cDovL2ZlZWRzLnNvdW5kY2xvdWQuY29tL3VzZXJzL3NvdW5kY2xvdWQ6dXNlcnM6Mjc2MDExMzcwL3NvdW5kcy5yc3M Email: ThatBLKCouple@gmail.com Podcast Summary: This is an accidentally funny podcast about the realities of Blackness and adult life. We do “adult” differently. We are That Black Couple. Our goal is to create a space for Black millennials to discuss and embody adult life on their own terms. We aren't beholden to “traditional” gender or parenting roles, queerness is fluid and present in the ways we show up in our relationships and in the world, and we want to build community with other 30-something Black folx who are trying to figure this ish out.

In this rundown of topical matters, Jenn and Daren celebrate the sheer brilliance of Black women. They start with using Drake's recent conflict with Halle Berry as an example of how not to treat Black women. Next is a walkthrough or recent major wins for Black women, ranging from the global economic impact Beyonce's Renaissance tour to the enduring legacy of Black women athletes dominating their fields. They close out their acknowledgement of Black women by celebrating Virgo Season (#virgoszn) and announcing the availability of pre-orders for Jenn's book “Black Women Taught Us”. Pre-order “Black Women Taught Us” - https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/673883/black-women-taught-us-by-jenn-m-jackson-phd/ “Black Women Taught Us” GoodReads Giveaway - https://www.goodreads.com/giveaway/show/375960-black-women-taught-us-an-intimate-history-of-black-feminism www.ThatBlackCouple.com FB: www.facebook.com/ThatBlackCouple Twitter: www.twitter.com/ThatBlkCouple Instagram: www.instagram.com/thatblkcouple iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/id1284072220?mt=2 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2M7GIQlWxG05gGq0bpBwma?si=xSkjzK0BRJW51rjyl3DWvw Stitcher: www.stitcher.com/podcast/that-black-couple SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/thatblackcouple Google Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cDovL2ZlZWRzLnNvdW5kY2xvdWQuY29tL3VzZXJzL3NvdW5kY2xvdWQ6dXNlcnM6Mjc2MDExMzcwL3NvdW5kcy5yc3M Email: ThatBLKCouple@gmail.com Podcast Summary: This is an accidentally funny podcast about the realities of Blackness and adult life. We do “adult” differently. We are That Black Couple. Our goal is to create a space for Black millennials to discuss and embody adult life on their own terms. We aren't beholden to “traditional” gender or parenting roles, queerness is fluid and present in the ways we show up in our relationships and in the world, and we want to build community with other 30-something Black folx who are trying to figure this ish out.

In the first segment, Jenn and Daren celebrate September (Virgo Season) and update everyone on where they have been. They also explain how important literacy is and how comic books play a part in not just bringing young people to reading but also helping minority and queer readers see themselves reflected in print. In the second segment, they discuss the benefits of reading and how gaps in learning can persist from childhood through to adulthood. Daren also gives insight into the current publishing industry and how imperative it is to create opportunities for non-white people to find their place within that industry. In the third segment, Jenn and Daren reflect on the books that turned them into avid readers and why the book bans happening across the country are so problematic. This underscores why it is imperative for us to write our own stories and record our own history. www.ThatBlackCouple.com FB: www.facebook.com/ThatBlackCouple Twitter: www.twitter.com/ThatBlkCouple Instagram: www.instagram.com/thatblkcouple iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/id1284072220?mt=2 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2M7GIQlWxG05gGq0bpBwma?si=xSkjzK0BRJW51rjyl3DWvw Stitcher: www.stitcher.com/podcast/that-black-couple SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/thatblackcouple Google Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cDovL2ZlZWRzLnNvdW5kY2xvdWQuY29tL3VzZXJzL3NvdW5kY2xvdWQ6dXNlcnM6Mjc2MDExMzcwL3NvdW5kcy5yc3M Email: ThatBLKCouple@gmail.com Podcast Summary: This is an accidentally funny podcast about the realities of Blackness and adult life. We do “adult” differently. We are That Black Couple. Our goal is to create a space for Black millennials to discuss and embody adult life on their own terms. We aren't beholden to “traditional” gender or parenting roles, queerness is fluid and present in the ways we show up in our relationships and in the world, and we want to build community with other 30-something Black folx who are trying to figure this ish out.

In this episode spotlighting Black August, Jenn and Daren talk through the legacy of the Black radical tradition, from the Haitian Revolution to today. In the first segment, Jenn and Daren discuss the limited amount of Black history that they were taught in their youth and how that history tended to skew towards elements that support capitalism. But as Black liberation movements have grown in prominence, so too have radical models of possibility. In the second segment, they share the legacy of Black Panther George Jackson and the genesis of Black August as well as the linkages to the Haitian Revolution and the International Day for the Remembrance of the Slave Trade and its Abolition. In the third segment, Daren explains why it is so important to teach children about Black radical tradition especially in the face of conservative efforts to erase the very concepts of race, gender, and sexuality from classrooms. Jenn remarks on interactions with her students and how the internet age has made this information so much more accessible to them, and how their level of knowledge at such a young age gives us hope for the future. Reference Material: * Black August Uplifted as Alternative Black History Month - https://www.usnews.com/news/us/articles/2022-08-25/black-august-uplifted-as-alternative-black-history-month * Study, fast, train, fight: The roots of Black August - https://www.liberationschool.org/study-fast-train-fight-the-roots-of-black-august/ * unesco: International Day for the Remembrance of the Slave Trade and its Abolition - https://www.unesco.org/en/days/slave-trade-remembrance www.ThatBlackCouple.com FB: www.facebook.com/ThatBlackCouple Twitter: www.twitter.com/ThatBlkCouple Instagram: www.instagram.com/thatblkcouple iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/id1284072220?mt=2 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2M7GIQlWxG05gGq0bpBwma?si=xSkjzK0BRJW51rjyl3DWvw Stitcher: www.stitcher.com/podcast/that-black-couple Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/That-Black-Couple-Podcast/dp/B0C12M7Q34/ Pandora: https://www.pandora.com/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/PC:1000149014 SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/thatblackcouple Google Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cDovL2ZlZWRzLnNvdW5kY2xvdWQuY29tL3VzZXJzL3NvdW5kY2xvdWQ6dXNlcnM6Mjc2MDExMzcwL3NvdW5kcy5yc3M Email: ThatBLKCouple@gmail.com Podcast Summary: This is an accidentally funny podcast about the realities of Blackness and adult life. We do “adult” differently. We are That Black Couple. Our goal is to create a space for Black millennials to discuss and embody adult life on their own terms. We aren't beholden to “traditional” gender or parenting roles, queerness is fluid and present in the ways we show up in our relationships and in the world, and we want to build community with other 30-something Black folx who are trying to figure this ish out.

In this episode, Jenn and Daren reflect on 3 expressions of Blackness that brought them joy this week: the 50th anniversary Hip-Hop, the reality show “Hoochie Daddies,” and Montgomery Riverfront Beat-down.They opine on the beauty of Black solidarity and folding chairs, share how Hip-Hop has been a triumph and how it has let us down, and explain why “Hoochie Daddies” is the must-watch lesbian/stud reality show of the year. It has truly been Black August. Reference Material: * Mid-Year 2022: Hip-Hop's Still the Top Genre But Latin & World Music Are Making Gains - https://www.billboard.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/july-19-2022-billboard-bulletin-1.pdf * Music Genre Market Share Midyear 2023: Catalog Drives Rock Surge as R&B/Hip-Hop Slides - https://www.billboard.com/pro/music-genre-market-share-midyear-us-2023-report/ * @HipHopNumbers, Apr 3, 2022 - https://twitter.com/HipHopNumbers/status/1510537031319191562?s=20 www.ThatBlackCouple.com FB: www.facebook.com/ThatBlackCouple Twitter: www.twitter.com/ThatBlkCouple Instagram: www.instagram.com/thatblkcouple iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/id1284072220?mt=2 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2M7GIQlWxG05gGq0bpBwma?si=xSkjzK0BRJW51rjyl3DWvw Stitcher: www.stitcher.com/podcast/that-black-couple Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/That-Black-Couple-Podcast/dp/B0C12M7Q34/ Pandora: https://www.pandora.com/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/PC:1000149014 SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/thatblackcouple Google Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cDovL2ZlZWRzLnNvdW5kY2xvdWQuY29tL3VzZXJzL3NvdW5kY2xvdWQ6dXNlcnM6Mjc2MDExMzcwL3NvdW5kcy5yc3M Email: ThatBLKCouple@gmail.com Podcast Summary: This is an accidentally funny podcast about the realities of Blackness and adult life. We do “adult” differently. We are That Black Couple. Our goal is to create a space for Black millennials to discuss and embody adult life on their own terms. We aren't beholden to “traditional” gender or parenting roles, queerness is fluid and present in the ways we show up in our relationships and in the world, and we want to build community with other 30-something Black folx who are trying to figure this ish out.

In this episode, Jenn and Daren meditate on the ways that our own experiences with disability policing dovetails with other forms of anti-Black policing in society. We expand the conversation about Disability Pride Month to have a conversation about how our intersectional identities should be considered especially when we discuss our disabilities. We close the episode reflecting on the risks associated with public movement and public Blackness. www.ThatBlackCouple.com FB: www.facebook.com/ThatBlackCouple Twitter: www.twitter.com/ThatBlkCouple Instagram: www.instagram.com/thatblkcouple iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/id1284072220?mt=2 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2M7GIQlWxG05gGq0bpBwma?si=xSkjzK0BRJW51rjyl3DWvw Stitcher: www.stitcher.com/podcast/that-black-couple Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/That-Black-Couple-Podcast/dp/B0C12M7Q34/ Pandora: https://www.pandora.com/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/PC:1000149014 SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/thatblackcouple Google Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cDovL2ZlZWRzLnNvdW5kY2xvdWQuY29tL3VzZXJzL3NvdW5kY2xvdWQ6dXNlcnM6Mjc2MDExMzcwL3NvdW5kcy5yc3M Email: ThatBLKCouple@gmail.com Podcast Summary: This is an accidentally funny podcast about the realities of Blackness and adult life. We do “adult” differently. We are That Black Couple. Our goal is to create a space for Black millennials to discuss and embody adult life on their own terms. We aren't beholden to “traditional” gender or parenting roles, queerness is fluid and present in the ways we show up in our relationships and in the world, and we want to build community with other 30-something Black folx who are trying to figure this ish out.

In the opening episode for season 5, Jenn and Daren focus on the laundry list of obstacles that are facing marginalized people and why it is that much more important to support Black creatives in these times. From Supreme Curt decisions legalizing discrimination and striking down affirmative action to book bans and the proliferation of DEI(&A) initiatives, the troubles of the world can work together to stifle and sometimes snuff out our creative efforts. But sometimes just having one cheerleading in your corner can be the support you need to keep the creative juices flowing. Honor your creativity, honor your gifts, and live in your truth. www.ThatBlackCouple.com FB: www.facebook.com/ThatBlackCouple Twitter: www.twitter.com/ThatBlkCouple Instagram: www.instagram.com/thatblkcouple iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/id1284072220?mt=2 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2M7GIQlWxG05gGq0bpBwma?si=xSkjzK0BRJW51rjyl3DWvw Stitcher: www.stitcher.com/podcast/that-black-couple Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/That-Black-Couple-Podcast/dp/B0C12M7Q34/ Pandora: https://www.pandora.com/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/PC:1000149014 SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/thatblackcouple Google Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cDovL2ZlZWRzLnNvdW5kY2xvdWQuY29tL3VzZXJzL3NvdW5kY2xvdWQ6dXNlcnM6Mjc2MDExMzcwL3NvdW5kcy5yc3M Email: ThatBLKCouple@gmail.com Podcast Summary: This is an accidentally funny podcast about the realities of Blackness and adult life. We do “adult” differently. We are That Black Couple. Our goal is to create a space for Black millennials to discuss and embody adult life on their own terms. We aren't beholden to “traditional” gender or parenting roles, queerness is fluid and present in the ways we show up in our relationships and in the world, and we want to build community with other 30-something Black folx who are trying to figure this ish out.

To close out May/Mental Health Awareness Month, Jenn and Daren recap how the month went for them and just how much they focused on their own mental health. A typically busy month for most people due to annual celebrations like the end of school years and Mother's Day, it is a partiularly busy month for them as they also celebrate Daren's birthday and graduation. Practical tips included in this episode include the importance of technology boundaries at work, taking vacation days, and delegating or asking for help with tasks. Too often, we try to manage everything on our own when their are people and systems that can lighten the load. www.ThatBlackCouple.com FB: www.facebook.com/ThatBlackCouple Twitter: www.twitter.com/ThatBlkCouple Instagram: www.instagram.com/thatblkcouple iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/id1284072220?mt=2 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2M7GIQlWxG05gGq0bpBwma?si=xSkjzK0BRJW51rjyl3DWvw Stitcher: www.stitcher.com/podcast/that-black-couple Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/That-Black-Couple-Podcast/dp/B0C12M7Q34/ Pandora: https://www.pandora.com/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/PC:1000149014 SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/thatblackcouple Google Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cDovL2ZlZWRzLnNvdW5kY2xvdWQuY29tL3VzZXJzL3NvdW5kY2xvdWQ6dXNlcnM6Mjc2MDExMzcwL3NvdW5kcy5yc3M Email: ThatBLKCouple@gmail.com Podcast Summary: This is an accidentally funny podcast about the realities of Blackness and adult life. We do “adult” differently. We are That Black Couple. Our goal is to create a space for Black millennials to discuss and embody adult life on their own terms. We aren't beholden to “traditional” gender or parenting roles, queerness is fluid and present in the ways we show up in our relationships and in the world, and we want to build community with other 30-something Black folx who are trying to figure this ish out.

Jenn and Daren take a different approach to Mental Health Awareness month in this episode, talking about the self care habits that have worked for them personally instead of focusing on how poor mental health can lead to negative outcomes. In this conversational format, Jenn and Daren ask each other questions about their own self care journeys and provide interesting insights around what has worked for them, what has not worked for them, and understanding what a self care journey is all about. Topics discussed include mediation, gym memberships, trial and error with therapy, travel, and getting grounded in nature. With any self care practice, the most important thing to keep in mind is that the solution has to work for you. You can't just take advice from others, and what works for you today might not be what works for you tomorrow. www.ThatBlackCouple.com FB: www.facebook.com/ThatBlackCouple Twitter: www.twitter.com/ThatBlkCouple Instagram: www.instagram.com/thatblkcouple iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/id1284072220?mt=2 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2M7GIQlWxG05gGq0bpBwma?si=xSkjzK0BRJW51rjyl3DWvw Stitcher: www.stitcher.com/podcast/that-black-couple Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/That-Black-Couple-Podcast/dp/B0C12M7Q34/ Pandora: https://www.pandora.com/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/PC:1000149014 SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/thatblackcouple Google Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cDovL2ZlZWRzLnNvdW5kY2xvdWQuY29tL3VzZXJzL3NvdW5kY2xvdWQ6dXNlcnM6Mjc2MDExMzcwL3NvdW5kcy5yc3M Email: ThatBLKCouple@gmail.com Podcast Summary: This is an accidentally funny podcast about the realities of Blackness and adult life. We do “adult” differently. We are That Black Couple. Our goal is to create a space for Black millennials to discuss and embody adult life on their own terms. We aren't beholden to “traditional” gender or parenting roles, queerness is fluid and present in the ways we show up in our relationships and in the world, and we want to build community with other 30-something Black folx who are trying to figure this ish out.

Jenn and Daren highlight the dangers of burnout and how this can have heightened impacts for marginalized communities in this 4/20 themed episode. While many people think that sleeping in over the weekend can cure their burnout, the side effects of burnout can extend for anywhere from one year to ten years. This is why it is so important to prioritize self-care today. Within this conversation, they discuss the recent work of Tricia Hersey (Rest is Resistance) and Dr. Arline T Geronimus (Weathering). They also make a case for the decriminalization of marijuana and justice for those currently incarcerated for weed-related offenses while pointing out how beneficial marijuana can be for mental health. The main takeaway from this episode is how important it is to figure out what your best mental health care plan is and to exercise it without shame. Reference Material: * Rest Is Resistance: A Manifesto by Tricia Hersey - https://amzn.to/3Lvp7Yk * Weathering: The Extraordinary Stress of Ordinary Life in an Unjust Society by Dr. Arline T Geronimus - https://amzn.to/3Lvpjqw * How to Recover From Burnout With 14 Exercises & Treatments - https://positivepsychology.com/how-to-recover-burnout/#duration * Burnout Prevention and Treatment - https://www.helpguide.org/articles/stress/burnout-prevention-and-recovery.htm www.ThatBlackCouple.com FB: www.facebook.com/ThatBlackCouple Twitter: www.twitter.com/ThatBlkCouple Instagram: www.instagram.com/thatblkcouple iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/id1284072220?mt=2 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2M7GIQlWxG05gGq0bpBwma?si=xSkjzK0BRJW51rjyl3DWvw Stitcher: www.stitcher.com/podcast/that-black-couple SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/thatblackcouple Google Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cDovL2ZlZWRzLnNvdW5kY2xvdWQuY29tL3VzZXJzL3NvdW5kY2xvdWQ6dXNlcnM6Mjc2MDExMzcwL3NvdW5kcy5yc3M Email: ThatBLKCouple@gmail.com Podcast Summary: This is an accidentally funny podcast about the realities of Blackness and adult life. We do “adult” differently. We are That Black Couple. Our goal is to create a space for Black millennials to discuss and embody adult life on their own terms. We aren't beholden to “traditional” gender or parenting roles, queerness is fluid and present in the ways we show up in our relationships and in the world, and we want to build community with other 30-something Black folx who are trying to figure this ish out.

Jenn and Daren tribute Black writers in this episode for National Poetry Month. They start by highlighting Black poets that every reader should have on their pull list including Nate Marshall, Claudia Rankine, and Donika Kelly. Daren then dives into hard facts and figures related to how white-dominated the writing and publishing industry is, and how that can bring about specific challenges for Black writers. They share how difficult it can be to find people within the industry that understand your work, to find support for your art, and to find confidence in your own voice. In the end, Jenn and Daren share the personal struggles they have faced as writers and express how perfection can be the enemy of your writing success. Black Poets You Should Be Reading: Nate Marshall - Wild Hundreds https://amzn.to/3ZQwheT Claudia Rankine - Citizen https://amzn.to/43e5UCG Warsan Shire - Bless the Daughter Raised by a Voice in Her Head: Poems https://amzn.to/3ZWnPup Terrance Hayes - American Sonnets for My Past and Future Assassin https://amzn.to/3m3peBS Jericho Brown - The Tradition https://amzn.to/3MkMiXa Donika Kelly - Bestiary https://amzn.to/3ZJDixR Danez Smith - Don't Call Us Dead https://amzn.to/3m3oL2A Morgan Parker - Magical Negro https://amzn.to/3UbZH5O Reference Material: NYT: Just How White Is the Book Industry? https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/12/11/opinion/culture/diversity-publishing-industry.html www.ThatBlackCouple.com FB: www.facebook.com/ThatBlackCouple Twitter: www.twitter.com/ThatBlkCouple Instagram: www.instagram.com/thatblkcouple iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/id1284072220?mt=2 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2M7GIQlWxG05gGq0bpBwma?si=xSkjzK0BRJW51rjyl3DWvw Stitcher: www.stitcher.com/podcast/that-black-couple SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/thatblackcouple Google Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cDovL2ZlZWRzLnNvdW5kY2xvdWQuY29tL3VzZXJzL3NvdW5kY2xvdWQ6dXNlcnM6Mjc2MDExMzcwL3NvdW5kcy5yc3M Email: ThatBLKCouple@gmail.com Podcast Summary: This is an accidentally funny podcast about the realities of Blackness and adult life. We do “adult” differently. We are That Black Couple. Our goal is to create a space for Black millennials to discuss and embody adult life on their own terms. We aren't beholden to “traditional” gender or parenting roles, queerness is fluid and present in the ways we show up in our relationships and in the world, and we want to build community with other 30-something Black folx who are trying to figure this ish out.

In this rundown episode, Jenn and Daren laugh and chat their way through the current events stuck on their minds. First, they pay homage and mourn the loss of fan favorite actor Lance Reddick and comment on how we are losing Black men at younger ages. Check on your Black man friend today. Then they run through a collection of topics from the looming ban of TikTok to the “Hotep Olympics” of Byron Allen, Tyler Perry, and Diddy trying to buy BET to the cinematic experience that is “Swarm.” They close things out by highlighting the Transgender Day of Visibility (March 31) and explaining why everyday should be Transgender Visibility Day. Reference Material: * "An unforgettable talent": The cast and crew of "The Wire" reflect on the legacy of Lance Reddick - https://www.salon.com/2023/03/24/an-unforgettable-talent-the-cast-and-crew-of-the-wire-reflect-on-the-legacy-of-lance-reddick/ * The U.S. is threatening to ban TikTok? Good luck - https://www.npr.org/2023/03/22/1165375400/tiktok-ban-app-us-china-bytedance-biden-security * Diddy Joins Bidding War For BET - https://www.vibe.com/news/business/diddy-bet-bidding-war-tyler-perry-byron-allen-1234742284/ * Donald Glover's New Show, ‘Swarm,' Is Designed to Make Headlines - https://www.theringer.com/tv/2023/3/17/23632204/donald-glover-swarm-review-dominique-fishback-chloe-bailey www.ThatBlackCouple.com FB: www.facebook.com/ThatBlackCouple Twitter: www.twitter.com/ThatBlkCouple Instagram: www.instagram.com/thatblkcouple iTunes: itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/that-…d1284072220?mt=2 Spotify: open.spotify.com/show/2M7GIQlWxG0…0BRJW51rjyl3DWvw Stitcher: www.stitcher.com/podcast/that-black-couple SoundCloud: @thatblackcouple Google Podcasts: podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cDovL2…L3NvdW5kcy5yc3M Email: ThatBLKCouple@gmail.com Podcast Summary: This is an accidentally funny podcast about the realities of Blackness and adult life. We do “adult” differently. We are That Black Couple. Our goal is to create a space for Black millennials to discuss and embody adult life on their own terms. We aren't beholden to “traditional” gender or parenting roles, queerness is fluid and present in the ways we show up in our relationships and in the world, and we want to build community with other 30-something Black folx who are trying to figure this ish out.

In this Womens History Month episode, Jenn and Daren discuss the high-profile threats to transgender people and why this is even more reason to spotlight them during month. Recent comments from Republicans at the CPAC conference and from famed writer Alice Walker prove how important it is for us to always center and elevate the experiences of all Black trans people. Jenn shares the work of Marsha P. Johnson and how modern Pride celebrations are rooted in her work. To close things out, Jenn and Daren highlight the achievements of trans activists like Janet Mock, Raquel Willis, CeCe McDonald and L'leret Jazell Ailith. Reference Material: CPAC Speaker's Trans Comments About ‘Eradication' Sound Downright Genocidal - https://www.huffpost.com/entry/cpac-trans-kids-eradicated-transgender-michael-knowles_n_64038d23e4b0c78bb7430b1c The Color Purple Author Alice Walker Defends J.K. Rowling's Transphobia - https://www.out.com/news/jk-rowling-alice-walker www.ThatBlackCouple.com FB: www.facebook.com/ThatBlackCouple Twitter: www.twitter.com/ThatBlkCouple Instagram: www.instagram.com/thatblkcouple iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/id1284072220?mt=2 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2M7GIQlWxG05gGq0bpBwma?si=xSkjzK0BRJW51rjyl3DWvw Stitcher: www.stitcher.com/podcast/that-black-couple SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/thatblackcouple Google Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cDovL2ZlZWRzLnNvdW5kY2xvdWQuY29tL3VzZXJzL3NvdW5kY2xvdWQ6dXNlcnM6Mjc2MDExMzcwL3NvdW5kcy5yc3M Email: ThatBLKCouple@gmail.com Podcast Summary: This is an accidentally funny podcast about the realities of Blackness and adult life. We do “adult” differently. We are That Black Couple. Our goal is to create a space for Black millennials to discuss and embody adult life on their own terms. We aren't beholden to “traditional” gender or parenting roles, queerness is fluid and present in the ways we show up in our relationships and in the world, and we want to build community with other 30-something Black folx who are trying to figure this ish out.

In the first segment, Jenn and Daren explain how attacks on Critical Race Theory (CRT) and "Look What I Can Do" culture can hinder Black Excellence. In the second segment, they discuss how Black folx endorsing damaging messaging and white women acting as stand-ins for diversity are perfect examples of how gatekeeping holds us back and why we need to get back to supporting each other. In the third segment, Jenn and Daren reflect on how limiting our own imagination and succumbing to imposter syndrome can sometimes be the most sinister barrier to our own Black Excellence. www.ThatBlackCouple.com FB: www.facebook.com/ThatBlackCouple Twitter: www.twitter.com/ThatBlkCouple Instagram: www.instagram.com/thatblkcouple iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/id1284072220?mt=2 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2M7GIQlWxG05gGq0bpBwma?si=xSkjzK0BRJW51rjyl3DWvw Stitcher: www.stitcher.com/podcast/that-black-couple SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/thatblackcouple Google Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cDovL2ZlZWRzLnNvdW5kY2xvdWQuY29tL3VzZXJzL3NvdW5kY2xvdWQ6dXNlcnM6Mjc2MDExMzcwL3NvdW5kcy5yc3M Email: ThatBLKCouple@gmail.com Podcast Summary: This is an accidentally funny podcast about the realities of Blackness and adult life. We do “adult” differently. We are That Black Couple. Our goal is to create a space for Black millennials to discuss and embody adult life on their own terms. We aren't beholden to “traditional” gender or parenting roles, queerness is fluid and present in the ways we show up in our relationships and in the world, and we want to build community with other 30-something Black folx who are trying to figure this ish out.

In this Black History Month episode honoring the legacy of Black creatives, Jenn and Daren share some of their favorite Black creatives from the old school, contemporary times, and present day. In the first segment, Jenn and Daren talk about the legendary and super Black contributions of Ma Rainey and Henry Ossawa Tanner. In the second segment, they share why the works of Audre Lorde and August Wilson are so important to the culture. In the third segment, Jenn and Daren share their pride in how Black youth like Samara Joy and Zara Wade are carrying the torch for Black creativity into the future. Reference Material: * The first African American celebrity artist - https://smarthistory.org/seeing-america-2/henry-ossawa-tanner-sa-periods/ * August Wilson: The Man Behind The Legacy - https://www.centertheatregroup.org/programs/students/learn-about-theatre/august-wilson-monologue-competition/august-wilson-biography/ * George C. Wolfe Says Ma Rainey's Black Bottom Is Still Relevant to Today's America - https://www.them.us/story/george-c-wolfe-ma-raineys-black-bottom-netflix-interview * The Audre Lorde Project - https://alp.org/about/audre * Samara Joy won Best New Artist at the 2023 Grammys. Here's how she got there. - https://www.cbsnews.com/news/samara-joy-jazz-vocalist-best-new-artist-2023-grammys/ * Dwyane Wade Is Standing Up For His Trans Daughter. His Ex-Wife Doesn't Approve - https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/dwyane-wade-trans-daughter-name-change-1234623869/ www.ThatBlackCouple.com FB: www.facebook.com/ThatBlackCouple Twitter: www.twitter.com/ThatBlkCouple Instagram: www.instagram.com/thatblkcouple Apple Podcasts: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/id1284072220?mt=2 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2M7GIQlWxG05gGq0bpBwma?si=xSkjzK0BRJW51rjyl3DWvw Stitcher: www.stitcher.com/podcast/that-black-couple SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/thatblackcouple Google Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cDovL2ZlZWRzLnNvdW5kY2xvdWQuY29tL3VzZXJzL3NvdW5kY2xvdWQ6dXNlcnM6Mjc2MDExMzcwL3NvdW5kcy5yc3M Email: ThatBLKCouple@gmail.com Podcast Summary: This is an accidentally funny podcast about the realities of Blackness and adult life. We do “adult” differently. We are That Black Couple. Our goal is to create a space for Black millennials to discuss and embody adult life on their own terms. We aren't beholden to “traditional” gender or parenting roles, queerness is fluid and present in the ways we show up in our relationships and in the world, and we want to build community with other 30-something Black folx who are trying to figure this ish out.

In the first segment, Jenn and Daren explain that they like to watch bad movies, but “You People” is not the enjoyable kind of bad movie. In the second segment, they give a quick synopsis of the movie and discuss a litany of issues that this movie has, including implicit racism, gross misrepresentations of Los Angeles, and simple lazy writing. In the third segment, Jenn and Daren expand on this film's sins including their portrayal is Muslims, diverse instances of misogyny, and centering a white savior in a film about interracial dating. www.ThatBlackCouple.com FB: www.facebook.com/ThatBlackCouple Twitter: www.twitter.com/ThatBlkCouple Instagram: www.instagram.com/thatblkcouple iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/id1284072220?mt=2 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2M7GIQlWxG05gGq0bpBwma?si=xSkjzK0BRJW51rjyl3DWvw Stitcher: www.stitcher.com/podcast/that-black-couple SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/thatblackcouple Google Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cDovL2ZlZWRzLnNvdW5kY2xvdWQuY29tL3VzZXJzL3NvdW5kY2xvdWQ6dXNlcnM6Mjc2MDExMzcwL3NvdW5kcy5yc3M Email: ThatBLKCouple@gmail.com Podcast Summary: This is an accidentally funny podcast about the realities of Blackness and adult life. We do “adult” differently. We are That Black Couple. Our goal is to create a space for Black millennials to discuss and embody adult life on their own terms. We aren't beholden to “traditional” gender or parenting roles, queerness is fluid and present in the ways we show up in our relationships and in the world, and we want to build community with other 30-something Black folx who are trying to figure this ish out.

In the first segment, Jenn and Daren highlight Jenn's recent talk on polyamory and the breakthrough nominations for the The 95th Academy Awards (2023). In the second segment, they discuss how corny white conservative s are showing up in the news, from trying to legislate away drag queens to Florida's war on “wokeness.” In the third segment, Jenn and Daren reflect on the upcoming Black History Month and the perks that Patreon subscribers will get during the month. Reference Material: #ThatBlackCouple Ep 14 - The Oscars Episode - https://soundcloud.com/thatblackcouple/thatblackcouple-ep-14-the-oscars-episode This Year's Oscars Broke the Record for Most Asian Acting Nominees in One Year - https://collider.com/oscar-nominations-2023-asian-nominees/ Drag Shows Are the Next Target for Republican Lawmakers - https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-01-10/drag-shows-are-the-next-target-for-republican-lawmakers Florida's Anti-Woke Laws Deny Existence of Systemic Racism - https://www.yesmagazine.org/social-justice/2023/01/23/desantis-florida-woke-laws-racial-injustice Florida's AP African American studies ban should raise alarm elsewhere, lawmaker says - https://www.npr.org/2023/01/23/1150716064/florida-ap-african-american-studies www.ThatBlackCouple.com FB: www.facebook.com/ThatBlackCouple Twitter: www.twitter.com/ThatBlkCouple Instagram: www.instagram.com/thatblkcouple iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/id1284072220?mt=2 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2M7GIQlWxG05gGq0bpBwma?si=xSkjzK0BRJW51rjyl3DWvw Stitcher: www.stitcher.com/podcast/that-black-couple SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/thatblackcouple Google Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cDovL2ZlZWRzLnNvdW5kY2xvdWQuY29tL3VzZXJzL3NvdW5kY2xvdWQ6dXNlcnM6Mjc2MDExMzcwL3NvdW5kcy5yc3M Email: ThatBLKCouple@gmail.com Podcast Summary: This is an accidentally funny podcast about the realities of Blackness and adult life. We do “adult” differently. We are That Black Couple. Our goal is to create a space for Black millennials to discuss and embody adult life on their own terms. We aren't beholden to “traditional” gender or parenting roles, queerness is fluid and present in the ways we show up in our relationships and in the world, and we want to build community with other 30-something Black folx who are trying to figure this ish out.

Jenn and Daren open season 4 of That Black Couple exploring what the political futures of Black folx looks like. In the first segment, Jenn and Daren share their feelings about recent political developments like the "Red Wave" that wasn't and the historic and embarrassing vote for the Speaker of the House. In the second segment, they discuss the importance of the youth vote, abortion protection, and weed legalization in predicting where we are heading politically. They also talk through notable Black and queer candidate wins and set expectations around just how much progress their wins represent. In the third segment, Jenn and Daren explain why young voters are leading the charge for change, how the Movement for Black Lives influenced that change, and how Black culture making has always been a force for revolution. Reference Material: Kevin McCarthy is elected House speaker after 15 votes and days of negotiations - https://www.npr.org/2023/01/06/1147470516/kevin-mccarthy-speaker-of-the-house-vote Researchers say 2022 election had second highest young voter turnout in last 30 years - https://thehill.com/changing-america/respect/diversity-inclusion/3730922-researchers-say-2022-election-had-second-highest-young-voter-turnout-in-last-30-years/ Voters deliver ringing endorsement of abortion rights on midterm ballot initiatives across the US - https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/09/politics/abortion-rights-2022-midterms/index.html Recreational marijuana legalized in 2 states, rejected in 3 in 2022 election referendums - https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/recreational-marijuana-legalized-states-rejected/story?id=92683852 'No ceiling you can't break': The LGBTQ midterm 2022 candidates who had historic wins - https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2022/11/09/lgbtq-midterm-2022-candidates-history-wins-firsts/8313445001/ www.ThatBlackCouple.com FB: www.facebook.com/ThatBlackCouple Twitter: www.twitter.com/ThatBlkCouple Instagram: www.instagram.com/thatblkcouple iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/id1284072220?mt=2 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2M7GIQlWxG05gGq0bpBwma?si=xSkjzK0BRJW51rjyl3DWvw Stitcher: www.stitcher.com/podcast/that-black-couple SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/thatblackcouple Google Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cDovL2ZlZWRzLnNvdW5kY2xvdWQuY29tL3VzZXJzL3NvdW5kY2xvdWQ6dXNlcnM6Mjc2MDExMzcwL3NvdW5kcy5yc3M Email: ThatBLKCouple@gmail.com Podcast Summary: This is an accidentally funny podcast about the realities of Blackness and adult life. We do “adult” differently. We are That Black Couple. Our goal is to create a space for Black millennials to discuss and embody adult life on their own terms. We aren't beholden to “traditional” gender or parenting roles, queerness is fluid and present in the ways we show up in our relationships and in the world, and we want to build community with other 30-something Black folx who are trying to figure this ish out.

In the first segment, Jenn and Daren reflect on the most important things they learned in 2022, including not to overthink things and that you are enough all by yourself. In the second segment, they discuss the things they will be taking with them into 2023, from having more confidence and self-assurance to clarity around wants, goals, and personal and professional boundaries. In the third segment, Jenn and Daren share what they are hopeful about for 2023, most importantly the new projects they have coming from Colored Convos Media, Jenn's new book Black Women Taught Us, and Daren making a return to social media. Top 5 Episodes from 2022: * Ep 35 - Petty Politics: Rihanna, Kanye, and Ukraine - https://soundcloud.com/thatblackcouple/thatblackcouple-ep-35-petty-politics-rihanna-kanye-and-ukraine * Ep 34 - The Black Futures Episode: How To Move as a Healing Black Person in 2022 - https://soundcloud.com/thatblackcouple/thatblackcouple-ep-34-the-black-futures-episode-how-to-move-as-a-healing-black-person-in-2022 * Ep 40: Summer of Black Renaissance - https://soundcloud.com/thatblackcouple/thatblackcouple-ep-40-summer-of-black-renaissance * Ep 36 - Black Women and the Downside of Being the First - https://soundcloud.com/thatblackcouple/thatblackcouple-ep-36-black-women-and-the-downside-of-being-the-first * Ep 38: Black Queer Pride - https://soundcloud.com/thatblackcouple/thatblackcouple-ep-39-black-queer-pride www.ThatBlackCouple.com FB: www.facebook.com/ThatBlackCouple Twitter: www.twitter.com/ThatBlkCouple Instagram: www.instagram.com/thatblkcouple iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/id1284072220?mt=2 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2M7GIQlWxG05gGq0bpBwma?si=xSkjzK0BRJW51rjyl3DWvw Stitcher: www.stitcher.com/podcast/that-black-couple SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/thatblackcouple Google Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cDovL2ZlZWRzLnNvdW5kY2xvdWQuY29tL3VzZXJzL3NvdW5kY2xvdWQ6dXNlcnM6Mjc2MDExMzcwL3NvdW5kcy5yc3M Email: ThatBLKCouple@gmail.com Podcast Summary: This is an accidentally funny podcast about the realities of Blackness and adult life. We do “adult” differently. We are That Black Couple. Our goal is to create a space for Black millennials to discuss and embody adult life on their own terms. We aren't beholden to “traditional” gender or parenting roles, queerness is fluid and present in the ways we show up in our relationships and in the world, and we want to build community with other 30-something Black folx who are trying to figure this ish out.

In the first segment, Jenn and Daren mourn the loss of Stephen “tWitch” Boss, other recent celebrity losses, and how so many people in society don't understand that the personas celebrities put forth are not the entirety of who they are. In the second segment, they discuss the rising rates of suicide in the Black community and do a deep dive on what work needs to be done around Black masculinity and vulnerability for them to be able to thrive in a world structured for their destruction. In the third segment, Jenn reflects on how important it is to be expansive with the concept of self care for ourselves and Daren challenges all of the Black men out there to be courageous in taking care of themselves. Articles for Reference: * Suicide Prevention Resource Center Black Populations - https://www.sprc.org/scope/racial-ethnic-disparities/black-populations * The Black Gender Gap: A Commentary on Intimacy and Identity Issues of Black College Women - http://tpcjournal.nbcc.org/the-black-gender-gap-a-commentary-on-intimacy-and-identity-issues-of-black-college-women/ * The biggest threat facing middle-aged men isn't smoking or obesity. It's loneliness. - https://www.bostonglobe.com/magazine/2017/03/09/the-biggest-threat-facing-middle-age-men-isn-smoking-obesity-loneliness/k6saC9FnnHQCUbf5mJ8okL/story.html * Men Have No Friends and Women Bear the Burden - https://www.harpersbazaar.com/culture/features/a27259689/toxic-masculinity-male-friendships-emotional-labor-men-rely-on-women/ www.ThatBlackCouple.com FB: www.facebook.com/ThatBlackCouple Twitter: www.twitter.com/ThatBlkCouple Instagram: www.instagram.com/thatblkcouple iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/id1284072220?mt=2 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2M7GIQlWxG05gGq0bpBwma?si=xSkjzK0BRJW51rjyl3DWvw Stitcher: www.stitcher.com/podcast/that-black-couple SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/thatblackcouple Google Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cDovL2ZlZWRzLnNvdW5kY2xvdWQuY29tL3VzZXJzL3NvdW5kY2xvdWQ6dXNlcnM6Mjc2MDExMzcwL3NvdW5kcy5yc3M Email: ThatBLKCouple@gmail.com Podcast Summary: This is an accidentally funny podcast about the realities of Blackness and adult life. We do “adult” differently. We are That Black Couple. Our goal is to create a space for Black millennials to discuss and embody adult life on their own terms. We aren't beholden to “traditional” gender or parenting roles, queerness is fluid and present in the ways we show up in our relationships and in the world, and we want to build community with other 30-something Black folx who are trying to figure this ish out.

In the first segment, Jenn and Daren detail the problem with centering pain in Black narratives and how white people struggle to understand Black characters without pain as an entry point. In the second segment, Jenn and Daren rave about the brilliance of “The Woman King”, Lashana Lynch, the film's costuming department, and John Boyega's twist out. They also explain how the film deftly tells a story about the slave trade without centering Black pain. In the third segment, Daren lists the reasons we should all be excited about “Black Panther: Wakanda Forever” while Jenn points out the difficulty of having problematic actors, like Letitia Wright, cast in the movies we want to support. www.ThatBlackCouple.com FB: www.facebook.com/ThatBlackCouple Twitter: www.twitter.com/ThatBlkCouple Instagram: www.instagram.com/thatblkcouple iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/id1284072220?mt=2 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2M7GIQlWxG05gGq0bpBwma?si=xSkjzK0BRJW51rjyl3DWvw Stitcher: www.stitcher.com/podcast/that-black-couple SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/thatblackcouple Google Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cDovL2ZlZWRzLnNvdW5kY2xvdWQuY29tL3VzZXJzL3NvdW5kY2xvdWQ6dXNlcnM6Mjc2MDExMzcwL3NvdW5kcy5yc3M Email: ThatBLKCouple@gmail.com Podcast Summary: This is an accidentally funny podcast about the realities of Blackness and adult life. We do “adult” differently. We are That Black Couple. Our goal is to create a space for Black millennials to discuss and embody adult life on their own terms. We aren't beholden to “traditional” gender or parenting roles, queerness is fluid and present in the ways we show up in our relationships and in the world, and we want to build community with other 30-something Black folx who are trying to figure this ish out.

In the first segment, Jenn and Daren explain where they have been for the last month and detail the initiatives you should tap into like the Black Feminist Book Club and thri upcoming Author Series. In the second segment, Daren asks “Who really cares about the Queen?” and Jenn talks through why we are not obligated to mourn her loss. In the third segment, Jenn and Daren outline why it's time for us to stop handling Kanye West with kid gloves and lament how compelled and conflicted they feel about Kim Kardashian looking like the hero in their marriage. www.ThatBlackCouple.com FB: www.facebook.com/ThatBlackCouple Twitter: www.twitter.com/ThatBlkCouple Instagram: www.instagram.com/thatblkcouple iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/id1284072220?mt=2 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2M7GIQlWxG05gGq0bpBwma?si=xSkjzK0BRJW51rjyl3DWvw Stitcher: www.stitcher.com/podcast/that-black-couple SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/thatblackcouple Google Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cDovL2ZlZWRzLnNvdW5kY2xvdWQuY29tL3VzZXJzL3NvdW5kY2xvdWQ6dXNlcnM6Mjc2MDExMzcwL3NvdW5kcy5yc3M Email: ThatBLKCouple@gmail.com Podcast Summary: This is an accidentally funny podcast about the realities of Blackness and adult life. We do “adult” differently. We are That Black Couple. Our goal is to create a space for Black millennials to discuss and embody adult life on their own terms. We aren't beholden to “traditional” gender or parenting roles, queerness is fluid and present in the ways we show up in our relationships and in the world, and we want to build community with other 30-something Black folx who are trying to figure this ish out.

In the first segment, Jenn and Daren speak about the brilliance of Jordan Peele's NOPE and Beyoncé's Renaissance and how we should all be putting respect on the names of artists that elevate artistry. In the second segment, Jenn and Daren talk through Britney Griner's current situation and how it speaks volumes about the disparities in professional sports pay and the particular peril that Black queer women face. In the third segment, Daren mounts the loss of Bill Russell and Nichelle Nichols and spotlights the special place that each of these legends hold in Black History. Reference Material: Kelis Speaks Out About Being Sampled on Beyoncé's ‘Renaissance' Album https://www.complex.com/music/kelis-speaks-out-being-sampled-on-beyonce-renaissance-album Brittney Griner's story shows again, how America continues to fail Black women - https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/aug/15/brittney-griner-america-black-women-russia The Legacy of Bill Russell Is Bigger Than Basketball - https://www.ebony.com/entertainment-culture/the-legacy-of-bill-russell-is-bigger-than-basketball/ The Legendary Legacy of Nichelle Nicholls - https://www.startrek.com/news/the-legendary-legacy-of-nichelle-nicholschols www.ThatBlackCouple.com FB: www.facebook.com/ThatBlackCouple Twitter: www.twitter.com/ThatBlkCouple Instagram: www.instagram.com/thatblkcouple iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/id1284072220?mt=2 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2M7GIQlWxG05gGq0bpBwma?si=xSkjzK0BRJW51rjyl3DWvw Stitcher: www.stitcher.com/podcast/that-black-couple SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/thatblackcouple Google Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cDovL2ZlZWRzLnNvdW5kY2xvdWQuY29tL3VzZXJzL3NvdW5kY2xvdWQ6dXNlcnM6Mjc2MDExMzcwL3NvdW5kcy5yc3M Email: ThatBLKCouple@gmail.com Podcast Summary: This is an accidentally funny podcast about the realities of Blackness and adult life. We do “adult” differently. We are That Black Couple. Our goal is to create a space for Black millennials to discuss and embody adult life on their own terms. We aren't beholden to “traditional” gender or parenting roles, queerness is fluid and present in the ways we show up in our relationships and in the world, and we want to build community with other 30-something Black folx who are trying to figure this ish out.

In the first segment, Jenn and Daren discuss how Kendrick Lamar's "Family Time" exposes the complexities of "daddy issues". In the second segment, Daren lays out the stats around fatherhood and single motherhood in America, and Jenn makes it plain how imperative it is that children seek therapy to deal with their daddy issues and that we focus on the particular issues single mothers and daughters face. In the third segment, Jenn and Daren reflect on how the alignment of Juneteenth and Father's Day brought about difficult conversations about freedom and liberation in light of how many daddy issues stem from the institution of slavery. Reference Material: * The Extent of Fatherlessness - https://fathers.com/statistics-and-research/the-extent-of-fatherlessness/ * Single Mother Statistics - https://singlemotherguide.com/single-mother-statistics/ * Census Bureau: Higher Percentage of Black Children Live with Single Mothers - https://afro.com/census-bureau-higher-percentage-black-children-live-single-mothers/ * 20 Statistics on Fatherless Homes and the Importance of Dads - https://moderngentlemen.net/statistics-on-fatherless-homes/ * 12 facts faced by kids who grow up with daddy issues - https://outvoices.us/amp/12-facts-faced-by-kids-who-grow-up-with-daddy-issues-and-how-to-avoid-them-2655397465 * Is There Real Psychology Behind Daddy Issues? - https://www.verywellmind.com/is-there-real-psychology-behind-daddy-issues-5190477 www.ThatBlackCouple.com FB: www.facebook.com/ThatBlackCouple Twitter: www.twitter.com/ThatBlkCouple Instagram: www.instagram.com/thatblkcouple Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/id1284072220?mt=2 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2M7GIQlWxG05gGq0bpBwma?si=xSkjzK0BRJW51rjyl3DWvw&nd=1 Stitcher: www.stitcher.com/podcast/that-black-couple SoundCloud: @thatblackcouple Google Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy5zb3VuZGNsb3VkLmNvbS91c2Vycy9zb3VuZGNsb3VkOnVzZXJzOjI3NjAxMTM3MC9zb3VuZHMucnNz Email: ThatBLKCouple@gmail.com Podcast Summary: This is an accidentally funny podcast about the realities of Blackness and adult life. We do “adult” differently. We are That Black Couple. Our goal is to create a space for Black millennials to discuss and embody adult life on their own terms. We aren't beholden to “traditional” gender or parenting roles, queerness is fluid and present in the ways we show up in our relationships and in the world, and we want to build community with other 30-something Black folx who are trying to figure this ish out.