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What if God wasn't all-powerful? What if you already held a theology that the mainstream Church saw as heretical? What are Process Theology and Open and Relational Theology? Simon Cross and Thomas Oord join us for this episode to talk about a theology that, in a sense, rejects the images of God that don't make sense in the light of God's goodness. One part of that is seeing God as emotional, and not all-powerful. Jonty and Laura talk to them about their ideas about God, about dealing with people with abhorrent ideas and about the conference Simon and Thomas are contributing to in June 2025. We don't agree on everything, but we're surprised at how much we do agree on. You can get tickets to the conference The Uncontrolling Love of God here while stocks last. If you're interested in whether God is in control or not, and if you want to hear Laura getting increasingly uncomfortable with Jonty arguing with a guest, this one is for you.
Theologian Thomas Oord joins us again to explore a vision of God as radically loving but not omnipotent. We look at the implications of challenging this traditional notion of divine control and how it has reshaped Tom's understanding of creation, evolution, suffering, liberation, the nature of God's power and the potential for hope without guarantees. Throughout the conversation Tom reflects on how these ideas have shaped his life, including his recent experience of a heresy trial for his LGBTQI+ affirming stance. It's a fascinating conversation about faith, suffering, and the enduring nature of love. Following the interview Nomad hosts Joy Brooks and Tim Nash reflect on the conversation and ponder how Tom's understanding of a loving who can't control might shape their evolving faith. Interview starts at 12m 16s Books, quotes, links → The creation of Nomad's thoughtful, wonderfully ad-free content is entirely funded by our equally thoughtful, wonderful listeners. Supporting us gives access to Nomad's online communities through the Beloved Listener Lounge, Enneagram Lounge and Nomad Book Club - as well as bonus content like Nomad Contemplations, Nomad Devotionals and Nomad Revisited. If you'd like to join our lovely supporters head to our Patreon Page to donate and you may even be rewarded with a pen or Beloved Listener mug! If you're hoping to connect with others who are more local, you can also take a look at our Listener Map or join our Nomad Gathering Facebook page. Additionally, we share listener's stories on our blog, all with the hope of facilitating understanding, connection and supportive relationships.
This week we talk to Thomas Oord about the book he recently wrote with Tripp Fuller - "God After Deconstruction". Are you deconstructing? Rethinking your faith? Does it all feel like a giant mess in your head and heart? This convo will (I hope!) make you feel less alone. Enjoy! SHOW NOTES: THOMAS OORD: https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=THOMAS+OORD&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8 GOD AFTER DECONSTRUCTION: https://www.amazon.com/God-After-Deconstruction-Thomas-Oord/dp/195867026X MY BOOK: https://www.amazon.com/Emerging-Rubble-Stories-Shattered-Relationships/dp/B0C7T5TJD4/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2B051GGV2WCSI&keywords=glenn+siepert&qid=1700157759&sprefix=glenn+%2Caps%2C399&sr=8-1 WHAT IF PROJECT ART STUDIO: CURRENTLY DOWN, UPDATES ARE BEING MADE! SUPPORT THE SHOW: https://www.whatifproject.net/support SPECIAL MUSIC: baegel (Artist) / Bleu Cheese (Song Name) / courtesy of epidemicsound.com #spirituality #bible #christianity #deconstruction #theology
PART 3 of 4: Many Christians wonder how it is possible to be LGBTQ+ affirming in light of what most people assume to be a clear anti-Gay message in the bible. This episode wrestles with ROMANS 1, and the VICE LISTS in 1 Corinthians and 1 TIMOTHY. In this special 4-part series, Kelly examines how affirming Bible scholars view the 6 verses in the Bible that deal with same-sex relationships in the context of their time and place, and ask whether these really are sweeping prohibitions of all same-sex relationships, or are about specific issues in a certain time--including violence, idolatry, and religious difference--that may not apply to modern LGBTQ+ people and relationships. (TW: Sexual Assault, Rape, Incest, Slavery, Infanticide)Many thanks to Justin Lee, Colby Martin, Thomas Oord, and the Q Christian Fellowship, from whose scholarship we borrowed liberally! Justin Lee:https://geekyjustin.com/ Colby Martin:https://www.colbymartinonline.com/Thomas J. Oord:https://thomasjayoord.com/ Q Christian Fellowship:https://www.qchristian.org/ 1946: The Mistranslation that Shifted a Culturehttps://www.1946themovie.com/Also, remember to find us at Theology Beer Camp https://www.eventbrite.com/e/theology-camp-the-return-of-the-god-pods-tickets-824208298207And use our discount code RADICALHOBBIT to save $50 on tickets!
PART 4 of 4: Many Christians wonder how it is possible to be LGBTQ+ affirming in light of what most people assume to be a clear anti-Gay message in the bible. This episode summarizes all the verses we've studied so far, and weighs them against the larger backdrop of the Biblical principles of Love, Grace, and how we are called to treat others. Love doesn't necessarily mean accepting everything others do, and all though under the law of love, everything is permitted, not everything is beneficial--but love also desires more than just compelling others to do good. It desires their THRIVING. In this special 4-part series, Kelly examines how affirming Bible scholars view the 6 verses in the Bible that deal with same-sex relationships in the context of their time and place, and ask whether these really are sweeping prohibitions of all same-sex relationships, or are about specific issues in a certain time--including violence, idolatry, and religious difference--that may not apply to modern LGBTQ+ people and relationships. (TW: Sexual Assault, Rape, Incest, Slavery, Infanticide) Many thanks to Justin Lee, Colby Martin, Thomas Oord, and the Q Christian Fellowship, from whose scholarship we borrowed liberally! Justin Lee:https://geekyjustin.com/ Colby Martin:https://www.colbymartinonline.com/Thomas J. Oord:https://thomasjayoord.com/ Q Christian Fellowship:https://www.qchristian.org/ 1946: The Mistranslation that Shifted a Culturehttps://www.1946themovie.com/Also, remember to find us at Theology Beer Camp https://www.eventbrite.com/e/theology-camp-the-return-of-the-god-pods-tickets-824208298207And use our discount code RADICALHOBBIT to save $50 on tickets!
PART 1 of 4: Many Christians wonder how it is possible to be LGBTQ+ affirming in light of what most people assume to be a clear anti-Gay message in the bible. In this special 4-part series, Kelly examines how affirming Bible scholars view the 6 verses in the Bible that deal with same-sex relationships in the context of their time and place, and ask whether these really are sweeping prohibitions of all same-sex relationships, or are about specific issues in a certain time--including violence, idolatry, and religious difference--that may not apply to modern LGBTQ+ people and relationships. (TW: Sexual Assault, Rape, Incest, Slavery, Infanticide)Many thanks to Justin Lee, Colby Martin, Thomas Oord, and the Q Christian Fellowship, from whose scholarship we borrowed liberally! Justin Lee:https://geekyjustin.com/ Colby Martin:https://www.colbymartinonline.com/Thomas J. Oord:https://thomasjayoord.com/Q Christian Fellowship:https://www.qchristian.org/ 1946: The Mistranslation that Shifted a Culturehttps://www.1946themovie.com/Also, remember to find us at Theology Beer Camp https://www.eventbrite.com/e/theology-camp-the-return-of-the-god-pods-tickets-824208298207And use our discount code RADICALHOBBIT to save $50 on tickets!
PART 2 of 4: Many Christians wonder how it is possible to be LGBTQ+ affirming in light of what most people assume to be a clear anti-Gay message in the bible. This episode continues this exploration by taking on the story of Sodom, and investigating what are the "abominations" in the laws of Leviticus. In this special 4-part series, Kelly examines how affirming Bible scholars view the 6 verses in the Bible that deal with same-sex relationships in the context of their time and place, and ask whether these really are sweeping prohibitions of all same-sex relationships, or are about specific issues in a certain time--including violence, idolatry, and religious difference--that may not apply to modern LGBTQ+ people and relationships. (TW: Sexual Assault, Rape, Incest, Slavery, Infanticide) Many thanks to Justin Lee, Colby Martin, Thomas Oord, and the Q Christian Fellowship, from whose scholarship we borrowed liberally! Justin Lee:https://geekyjustin.com/ Colby Martin:https://www.colbymartinonline.com/Thomas J. Oord:https://thomasjayoord.com/ Q Christian Fellowship:https://www.qchristian.org/ 1946: The Mistranslation that Shifted a Culturehttps://www.1946themovie.com/Also, remember to find us at Theology Beer Camp https://www.eventbrite.com/e/theology-camp-the-return-of-the-god-pods-tickets-824208298207And use our discount code RADICALHOBBIT to save $50 on tickets!
George led us in two practices this morning: a centering prayer around love and to the table for the Eucharist. A DEFINITION OF LOVE "To love is to act intentionally, in sympathetic/empathetic response to God and others, to promote overall well-being. Possibilities for uniquely profound and redemptive acts of love become available as people unite in Christian community. Without being engaged in the practices and liturgies of the church, some expressions of love are simply not possible. " —Dr. Thomas Oord, The Nature of Love: A Theology
After comparing notes on Mother's Day, Ken and Betsey dive into Ken's most recent Substack. Bart Ehrman, a fellow graduate of Ken's Bible School, gave up his Christian faith over the problem of evil. He's not alone. Theologian Thomas Oord has written a book that addresses the problem. He proposes that we focus not on an Omnipotent (all-powerful) God but on a God of Love. Betsey shares her personal crisis of faith as she watched the Twin Towers fall on 9/11. Then they turn to the headlines: the scheduled Biden/Trump debates and the criminal trial in Manhattan. When Trump's Vice Presidential hopefuls showed up en masse for a press conference in which they parroted the former President's grievances word for word, the nation got a preview of things to come. Ken calls out Senator John Thune for his support of Kari Lake. Finally, Betsey shares her Sunday morning experience in a Progressive Episcopalian Church on the north shore of Chicago. SHOW NOTESBecome a Patron | Ken's Substack PageSupport the Show.
How do you re-engage with God after deconstruction? How do you get over some of those major hurdles--the violence, exclusion, injustice and other problems that make traditional theology hard to swallow? Thomas Oord--theologian, writer, professor, and director of the Center for Open and Relational Theology--talks with us about the book that he and Tripp Fuller just released, God After Deconstruction. Together, these innovative theological minds systematically address the top problems that people have with modern Christianity, and take on each of them head-on. Oord offers thoughtful responses to many of the burning issues that are driving people away from churches, and presents some of the concepts of Open and Relational Theology, which many are finding as a reasonable yet faithful way of encountering God all over again.
Today, Ken shares his most recent Substack post. You'll find the full text here.Amipotence over Omnipotence - Love over ControlA fellow graduate of the Moody Bible Institute, Dr. Bart Ehrman, when he explains why he is no longer a Christian, points to the problem of theodicy. After years of academic study of the Christian Bible, for Ehrman, it was the problem of evil that pushed him right over the line. Like me, you know the conundrum - how can a God of love and absolute power co-exist with pervasive, inescapable evil? There were plenty of reasons for Ehrman to turn away from his evangelical Christian faith - but theodicy did him in.Continue reading...Ken's Substack Page | Become a PatronSupport the Show.
Embark on a soul-stirring exploration with Leah as she ventures into the depths of theodicy, seeking to unravel the tangled threads of suffering and faith. Reflecting on poignant personal moments and insights gleaned from her studies, Leah guides listeners through four thought-provoking models that grapple with the age-old question: where is God in the midst of suffering? From the traditional notion of "God's Plan" to the contemporary perspectives of divine empathy and human agency, each model offers a unique lens through which to view life's complexities.Drawing from theological giants like John Calvin to contemporary thinkers like Thomas Oord, Leah navigates the intricacies of faith with grace and candor. Through poignant anecdotes and scholarly reflections, she invites listeners to ponder their own experiences of suffering and the ways in which they encounter the divine in the midst of life's storms.As Leah shares her own evolving journey through the maze of theodicy, she offers not answers, but an invitation to wrestle with the profound mysteries of existence. Ultimately, she reminds us of the enduring hope that threads through our tradition—a hope that one day, all tears will be wiped away, and a new order of peace and wholeness will dawn.Join Leah on this transformative exploration, and discover where your own path intersects with the eternal questions of faith, suffering, and redemption.Review Leah's notes here and listen to or watch the teaching below.
Dr. Peter Enns returns to the podcast to discuss his new book Curve-ball - When Your Faith Takes Turns You Never Saw Coming* or How I Stumbled and Tripped My Way to Finding a Bigger God. Pete admits it's the longest title in the history of publishing. The popular professor, author (see show notes for his many other books), and podcaster (The Bible for Normal People) drops his guard like never before sharing his spiritual and intellectual journey from his days as an aspiring baseball player to progressive Christian thinker. "Wrestling with God and Scripture is very old and completely normal. Actually, it's God-activated," he says. In reviewing the book, Ken and Pete talk about Noah, Jonah, and Jesus as archetypes in the struggle. Richard Rohr, David Bentley Hart, Thomas Oord and Rachel Held Evans get honorable mention as guides. Evolution is a major "curveball" for many Christians. Pete is especially interested in the chaos and "weirdness" of physics and quantum mechanics, all of which have opened Pete's mind and heart to a much bigger and more profound notion of God. While Pete avoids the clichéd use of the over-used and misappropriated descriptor, "deconstruction," he traces a normal, natural, and healthy evolution in our understanding of faith and our relationship to the God of the Universe. SHOW NOTESBecome a Patron: www.patreon.com/beachedwhitemaleSupport the show
Dr Thomas Oord joins us once more to discuss his views on Spiritual Gifts and to what extent we can have healthy disagreements with other believers around this topic! Joshua Noel and TJ (Tiberius Juan) Blackwell ask him all about the views around continuationism and cessationism, we discuss where we all stand personally, what we think qualifies as a "Spiritual Gift", and we discuss why it even matters!.What is the meaning of Continuationism? What does the cessationist believe? What branch of Christianity believes in speaking in tongues? Where in the Bible does it say not to speak in tongues? Does the Bible say you have to speak in tongues? What are the 20 spiritual gifts? What are the 9 spiritual gifts? What are the 12 spiritual gifts of God? How do I identify my spiritual gift? How many gifts of the Spirit are there? .In this episode, we will:Discuss what the Spiritual Gifts areExplain various views around the continuation of the giftsTalk about our personal experiencesRank which gifts we think are most important.Support the show on Captivate or on Patreon, or by purchasing a comfy T-Shirt in our shop!.Join in our conversations on our Discord Server and Facebook group!.Hear all of the AMP Network shows:https://anazao-ministries.captivate.fm.Listen to every episode in this series:https://player.captivate.fm/collection/4f2184c4-1b7d-48fc-9c81-15f0a0c2679c.Check out Dr Thomas Oord & Tripp Fuller's newest book:https://a.co/d/f5faCld.Listen to every episode of Systematic Geekology with TJ:https://player.captivate.fm/collection/f4c32709-d8ff-4cef-8dfd-5775275c3c5e.Check out Joshua's other show, "Dummy for Theology":https://player.captivate.fm/episode/1a27a558-5de8-4f4b-bdd0-7f104805a2efMentioned in this episode:Easily subscribe to our show wherever you listen!https://the-whole-church-podcast.captivate.fm/listenCheck out the other AMP Network shows!https://anazao-ministries.captivate.fm . https://open.spotify.com/show/725pdvTzkle0fDWK2sdxnD?si=e317918366e04338
Summary In this conversation, Tim Whitaker and Thomas Jay Oord discuss the book 'The Deconstruction of Christianity' by Alisa Childers and Tim Barnett. They explore themes such as the concept of objective truth, the ambiguity of scripture, the role of subjectivity in interpretation, the problem of selective objectivity, the complexity of biblical interpretation, the inconsistencies in fundamentalist Christian beliefs, reasons for deconstruction, the inadequate responses to deconstruction, the contradictions in the authors' arguments, the flawed application of a modernist lens, the need for a standard outside of scripture, and the logical conclusion of Jesus' divinity. This conversation explores the problematic arguments presented in the book 'Why I Still Believe' by Tim Barnett and J. P. Moreland. The hosts discuss the weak arguments for Jesus as God and the divinely inspired predictions attributed to him. They also critique the book's emphasis on unquestioning biblical authority and the role of humans in interpreting the Bible. The conversation delves into the fear of questioning authority and the difficulty of leaving a tribe or way of life. The hosts highlight the problematic labeling of deconstructors as "captured" and the either/or approach to love. Thomas Oord also discussed his upcoming book on deconstruction and offers a different perspective on the topic. Takeaways The concept of objective truth and the role of subjectivity in interpretation are crucial in understanding deconstruction. The ambiguity of scripture and the complexities of biblical interpretation challenge the idea of a singular, objective truth. The authors' arguments in 'The Deconstruction of Christianity' often lack consistency and fail to address the complexities and nuances of the issues they discuss. The need for a standard outside of scripture and the recognition of the fruit of beliefs are important considerations in evaluating the validity of certain theological claims. The conversation highlights the ongoing challenges and debates surrounding deconstruction and the search for certainty in matters of faith. The arguments presented in 'Why I Still Believe' for Jesus as God and the divinely inspired predictions attributed to him are weak and unconvincing. Questioning biblical authority does not equate to deconstructing it, and it is important to recognize the role of humans in interpreting the Bible. The fear of questioning authority and the difficulty of leaving a tribe or way of life can hinder the process of deconstruction. Love should not be reduced to standing for truth or empathy alone, but should aim for overall well-being and flourishing. There is a need for a book that offers guidance and support to friends and parents of deconstructors, helping them navigate the process with empathy and understanding. Check out our website for merch, educational materials, and how to join our community! If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here! Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals Subscribe On YouTube The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. On this channel, you'll see videos from our founder Tim Whitaker and our incredible guests as they react and respond biblically to topics such as Christian Nationalism, church hurt, terrible Christian movies, bad conservative Christian takes, and MUCH more! We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you've been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We've built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Dan looks at an argument in Thomas Jay Oord's new book: The Death of Omnipotence and Birth of Amipotence. If it's true that "To exist is to exert power," what if we claim that God exerts all power? It seems to lead to the following disjunct: either (1) we do not exist or (2) we are God. Dan thinks through some potential problems with this line of thought. YOU can join future Surprising God conversations at SurprisingGod.com! Episode 19 YouTube Channel: Surprising God Dan's books: Confident Humility The Training of KX12 Send Questions To: Surprising God on X: @SurprisingGodFacebook: SurprisingGod Dan on X: @thatdankent
Dr Thomas Oord, author of "The Death of Omnipotence and Birth of Amipotence", joins us again to discuss the omniscience of God. Joshua Noel asks Dr Oord about the differences of omnipotence and omniscience. They discuss their views of what God can and cannot know, then get into the nature of time and practical takeaways of this doctrine..What does the Bible mean by omnipotence? What is the problem with omnipotence? What is the theory of omnipotence? What is the paradox of God's omnipotence? What it means to be omniscience? What is the difference between omnipotent and omniscience? What are the 3 omnis of God? What is God's relationship with time? What is God's understanding of time? What does God say about the concept of time? .In this episode, we will:Explore the nature of God's knowledgeCompare omniscience and omnipotenceDeconstruct the construct of timeDiscuss the implications of God's inability to know the futureExplore Biblical support for and against God knowing the future.Support the show on Captivate or on Patreon, or by purchasing a comfy T-Shirt in our shop!.Join in our conversations on our Discord Server and Facebook group!.Hear every episode we have done with Dr Tom Oord so far:https://player.captivate.fm/collection/7908711e-0990-4e7c-b604-e5d4e6b1dba2.Check out Joshua's other show, "Dummy for Theology":https://player.captivate.fm/episode/1a27a558-5de8-4f4b-bdd0-7f104805a2ef.Find all of Dr Tom Oord's books:https://www.amazon.com/stores/Thomas-Jay-Oord/author/B001H6OGWE?ref=ap_rdr&store_ref=ap_rdr&isDramIntegrated=true&shoppingPortalEnabled=true.Check out the most recent episode of Systematic Geekology:https://player.captivate.fm/show/0d51c070-b021-4cf6-9cea-62294822562c/latest/Mentioned in this episode:Easily subscribe to our show wherever you listen!https://the-whole-church-podcast.captivate.fm/listenCheck out the other AMP Network shows!https://anazao-ministries.captivate.fm . https://open.spotify.com/show/725pdvTzkle0fDWK2sdxnD?si=e317918366e04338
In this episode, Justin and Matt speak with Thomas Jay Oord about his most recent book, "The Death of Omnipotence, and Birth of Amipotence" wherein Tom outlines many of the reasons why omnipotence is no longer credible or salvageable and wherein he offers an alternative view of divine power. We also discuss some of the challenges that have come along with being a more progressive voice in a conservative institution. Tom is a theologian, philosopher, and scholar of multidisciplinary studies. He's written or edited more than thirty books, and currently directs a doctoral program at Northwind Theological Seminary and the Center for Open and Relational Theology. Oord is known for his contributions to research on love, open and relational theology, science and religion, and freedom and relationships for transformation. Buy the book: https://www.amazon.com/Death-Omnipotence-Birth-Amipotence/dp/1948609916/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=2KZUR4SANGIS9&keywords=thomas+oord&qid=1701537026&sprefix=thomas+oord%2Caps%2C109&sr=8-1-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGY&psc=1 Tom's website: https://thomasjayoord.com/ Music for this episode: Linha de Passe, Bao +Venuz Beats + Styles Davis Love Always, Nu Alkemi Conversion, Broad Sky Nomad's Theme, Matt Baker
What is Jesus an empath? I was speaking on Hebrews four recently, and it struck me that the NIV translates one of the qualities about Jesus being that he can empathise with us. “Therefore, since we have a great high priest who has ascended into heaven, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold firmly to the faith we profess. For we do not have a high priest who is unable to empathise with our weaknesses, but we have one who has been tempted in every way, just as we are—yet he did not sin. Let us then approach God's throne of grace with confidence, so that we may receive mercy and find grace to help us in our time of need.” (Hebrews 4:14-16 NIV11-GK) (NRSV translates ‘empathise' as ‘sympathise') Is there much of a difference? There are technical differences, but I'm not sure whether the Greek makes those. Instead, for the writer to the Hebrews is getting across is the Jesus gets us, understands us, feels us. We see this so often in the gospels when the person he is speaking to is treated as if they are the only person in the world. There is another verse in Hebrews which uses the same word. “You suffered along with those in prison and joyfully accepted the confiscation of your property, because you knew that you yourselves had better and lasting possessions.” (Hebrews 10:34 NIV11) Jesus suffers with us. He feels us. He does not simply understand. Nor is he detached from our suffering like a professional counsellor or consultant. He is right in there, alongside and experiencing our suffering. That makes all the difference to our prayers. One of the wonderful things this tells us about Jesus is that he has the courage to enter into our pain. As Bernie Brown puts it in her book I thought it was just me, ‘Empathy requires that we practice ordinary courage, compassion and connection.' What is the essence of this sympathy/empathy? It is love. Thomas Oord in his book, The Science of Love defines love as “acting intentionally, in sympathetic response to others (including God), to promote overall well-being.” Do you trust when you pray that as you bring your pain to Jesus he empathises, he sympathises, he stands together with you. He is never distracted when you pray. He is fully attentive, fully engaged, and fully available to you. Please add your comments on this week's topic. We learn best when we learn in community. Do you have a question about teaching the Bible? Is it theological, technical, practical? Send me your questions or suggestions. Here's the email: [malcolm@malcolmcox.org](mailto:malcolm@malcolmcox.org). If you'd like a copy of my free eBook on spiritual disciplines, “How God grows His people”, sign up at my website: http://[www.malcolmcox.org](http://www.malcolmcox.org/). Please pass the link on, subscribe, leave a review. “Worship the LORD with gladness; come before him with joyful songs.” (Psalms 100:2 NIV11) God bless, Malcolm
David and Tom tell us about a author/speaker who will visit FCC Norman.
Tom Oord is back! Dr. Thomas Oord and his daughter Alexa compiled and edited a book called Why the Church of the Nazarene Should be Fully LGBTQ+ Affirming." We wanted to talk to them about the book because everyone in the church (not just the Church of the Nazarene) is talking about human sexuality and whether or not the church should be LGBTQ+ affirming. LGBTQ+ inclusion and affirmation is something that's really important to us, and we love making space to have these much-needed conversations with scholars and, more importantly, queer people in and around the church to keep moving this essential conversation forward.For more on this topic, check out our previous episodes from Season 2: LGBTQ, the Church, and Why We're Affirming, Heavy Burdens: Interview with Bridget Eileen Rivera (Part 1), Heavy Burdens: Interview with Bridget Eileen Rivera (Part 2), and LGBTQ Christians, Shame, and Love: Interview with Dawne Moon and Theresa Tobin. In this episode, we tasted Little Elliot, a blueberry session mead from Manic Meadery. Jump to 7:05 to skip the tasting.Cheers!Content note: this episode contains explicit discussion of sex and sexuality.=====To chat with us and Bridget Eileen Rivera on August 17, subscribe at the Pappy level at our Patreon.=====Want to support us?The best way is to subscribe to our Patreon. Annual memberships are available for a 10% discount.If you'd rather make a one-time donation, you can contribute through our PayPal. Other important info: Rate & review us on Apple & Spotify Tweet us at @PPWBPodcast, @robertkwhitaker, and @RandyKnie Follow & message us on Facebook & Instagram Watch & comment on YouTube Email us at pastorandphilosopher@gmail.com Cheers!
Dr. Peter Enns returns to the podcast to discuss his brand new book Curve-ball - When Your Faith Takes Turns You Never Saw Coming* or How I Stumbled and Tripped My Way to Finding a Bigger God. Pete admits it's the longest title in the history of publishing. The popular professor, author (see show notes for his many other books), and podcaster (The Bible for Normal People) drops his guard like never before sharing his spiritual and intellectual journey from his days as an aspiring baseball player to progressive Christian thinker. "Wrestling with God and Scripture is very old and completely normal. Actually, it's God-activated," he says. In reviewing the book, Ken and Pete talk about Noah, Jonah, and Jesus as archetypes in the struggle. Richard Rohr, David Bentley Hart, Thomas Oord and Rachel Held Evans get honorable mention as guides. Evolution is a major "curveball" for many Christians. Pete is especially interested in the chaos and "weirdness" of physics and quantum mechanics, all of which have opened Pete's mind and heart to a much bigger and more profound notion of God. While Pete avoids the clichéd use of the over-used and misappropriated descriptor, "deconstruction," he traces a normal, natural, and healthy evolution in our understanding of faith and our relationship to the God of the Universe. SHOW NOTESBecome a Patron: www.patreon.com/beachedwhitemaleSupport the show
Thomas Jay Oord is the Professor of Open and Relational Theology at Northwind Theological Seminary and the author of a number of books on love, and what this might mean when we talk about power and God.You can find out more about Thomas Oord and his works HERE.Has anything we make been interesting, useful or fruitful for you? You can support us by becoming a Fellow Traveller on our Patreon page HERE.
So does God know the end from the beginning? And if so, why would that God create souls that are going to burn in hell forever? Listen into Dr. Thomas Jay Oord says about Open and Relational Theology.
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Jordan and Brandon talk with Brian Orr about Evangelical Process Theology. They cover topics like what is evangelical process theology? When did this come on the scene? Why? Are there any denominations or confessional streams particularly susceptible to this? Why pick Thomas Oord as a key conversation partner? What are Oord's main contentions? Why is God essentially related in the way he thinks? Why is God's love understood in the way he explains it? What does essential kenosis mean? And more!Find out more from Brian Orr's BlogResources:1) A Classical Response to Relational Theism, Brian Orr 2) The Uncontrolling Love of God: An Open and Relational Account of Providence, Thomas Jay Oord3) God Can't: How to Believe in God and Love after Tragedy, Abuse, and Other Evils, Thomas Jay Oord4) A Christian Natural Theology, John B. Cobb5) Omnipotence and Other Theological Mistakes, Charles HartshorneSupport the show
Join Ilia Delio and Gabi Sloan on Hunger for Wholeness, (part two), of the interview with theologian, philosopher, award winning author, of 'Pluriform' Thomas Oord. In this episode we discuss:⁃ What is sin? How what does it mean for us and being radically unfinished?⁃ What does it mean for love to always hope?⁃ How is God changed by human love? ⁃ Pantheism vs. how God is present moment by moment ⁃ Who is Jesus in open and relational theology?⁃ How is love inherently free?Follow Thomas Oord's work on his website: http://thomasjayoord.comThomas Jay Oord is a theologian, philosopher, and scholar of multi-disciplinary studies. Oord is a best-selling and award-winning author, having written or edited more than twenty-five books. He directs a doctoral program at Northwind Theological Seminary and the Center for Open and Relational Theology. A twelve-time Faculty Award-winning professor, he teaches around the globe. Oord is known for his contributions to research on love, open and relational theology, science and religion, and the implications of freedom and relationships for transformation.A huge thank you to all of you who subscribe and support our show! This podcast is made possible by a grant from the The Fetzer Institute . We are very grateful for their support. Join our Patreon 'Hunger for Wholeness' Community for further background materials.Support the show
In this episode Ilia Delio and Gabi Sloan interview theologian, philosopher, and award-winning author of 'Pluriform Love.' Thomas Oord outlines the following:⁃ What is open and relational theology? ⁃ How does is God open and relational?⁃ Why have we boxed God into a non-relational framework?⁃ What is love in a culture where love is “all over the place”?⁃ Love as: friendship, self-sacrifice, romantic, care for nature, emotions, etc⁃ What is the relationship between love and social media? Follow Thomas Oord's work on his website: http://thomasjayoord.comThomas Jay Oord is a theologian, philosopher, and scholar of multi-disciplinary studies. Oord is a best-selling and award-winning author, having written or edited more than twenty-five books. He directs a doctoral program at Northwind Theological Seminary and the Center for Open and Relational Theology. A twelve-time Faculty Award-winning professor, he teaches around the globe. Oord is known for his contributions to research on love, open and relational theology, science and religion, and the implications of freedom and relationships for transformation.A huge thank you to all of you who subscribe and support our show! This podcast is made possible by a grant from the The Fetzer Institute . We are very grateful for their support. Join our our Patreon 'Hunger for Wholeness' Community for further background materials.Support the show
Many systematic theologians talk about God like they got God pegged while Isaiah says "God's thoughts and ways are higher than ours."While many claim things along the lines of "God won't bless your finances if you don't tithe before taxes," I'm still trying to process what it means for God to love me. What does that mean for all of us?This is an episode about God. If you're pursuing theology for a snapshot of God, give up the pursuit because God is too big for that. What we are left with:If God is all-loving, God can't be all-powerful because there is evil in the world.If God is all-powerful, God must not care or love creation because there is evil in the world.Many Christians still claim God to be both, all-loving and all-powerful (I'm one of them -- Joey).But while others, like Thomas Oord, actually try to make sense of this dichotomy, coming up with other possible explanations, he's pushed to the side as a heretic. Thomas Oord's new book Pluriform Love, unpacks a "Thomas Oord version" of open theology, which is a belief that supposes God not to be all-powerful.If this doctrine is true, how do we know we are "eternally safe" in heaven (where ever that is)?How do we reconcile God's wrath and eternal love with his eternal grace, love and redemption. So what the hell is going on out there and how does all this work? Does God have emotions? Why did God create us in the first place?We can only speculate. Enjoy these conversations? Check out the digital community version of Pastor With No Answers Podcast, only patrons have access to. Read about it HERE. Watch a quick video HERE. Join HERE. These perks may change your life.ANNOUNCEMENTS / LINKS4 Week ExperienceAttacking Christian Universalism with Sharon Putt (8/4 @ 8:30PM EST on our YouTube)Podcast Talkers/co-hosts on this episodeThomas Oord / Instagram / Book Joey Svendsen / Instagram / Twitter / FacebookPodcast Socials // PWNA Discussion Facebook Group / YouTubeThanks // Derek Minor for theme song and other music / Joel Hamilton and Joel Hamilton + friends for other music.e-mail the PWNA team here. Support the show
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Hey friends, our resident theologian (Thomas Oord!) is back on the show today to talk about his latest book, "Pluriform Love". Enjoy! SHOW NOTES: MY BOOK: https://www.amazon.com/Re-Thinking-Everything-Spiritual-Journey/dp/B09QNV8QX7/ref=sr_1_1?crid=V52CPQJD7N53&keywords=glenn+siepert+book&qid=1643323104&sprefix=glenn+siepert+book%2Caps%2C71&sr=8-1 PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/whatifproject BUY ME A COFFEE: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/whatifproject HERETIC SHOP: https://www.bonfire.com/store/the-heretic-shop/ THOMAS OORD: http://thomasjayoord.com ALL THE BOOKS: http://thomasjayoord.com/index.php/publications (SPECIAL MUSIC) YUNG CITIZEN: https://music.apple.com/us/artist/yung-citizen/945553400
How do Eschatology and Process Theology fit together? This week we try and answer that question by sitting down with Dr. Thomas Jay Oord. Dr. Oord is an expert on Process Theology, also known as Open and Relational Theology. Many days it feels as though the end of the world is upon us. This is even true for people across the proverbial aisle. Although for much different reasons. In this conversation we explore endings through a Process Theology lens. Will things get better? Will there be an ultimate ending? What is God's role, or lack thereof, in endings? Listen and find out what Dr. Oord and the Irencast team have to say about Eschatology and Process Theology. ANNOUNCEMENTS Sign Up for our Email list HERE and stay up to date on all things Irenicast! Send us Your questions, comments and/or encouragements for our upcoming 200th episode! You can reach out on all of our social media platforms Facebook, Twitter and Instagram Or better yet! Email us an audio clip to podcast@irenicast.com! Please include your name and what state or country you're from. RELEVANT LINKS From Our Conversation on Eschatology and Process Theology Dr. Oord's Latest Book: Pluriform Love: An Open and Relational Theology of Well-Being by Thomas Oord (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link) Dr. Oord's Book with Bonnie as co-editor: Partnering with God: Exploring Collaboration in Open and Relational Theology (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link) Church of the Nazarene (Evangelical Christian Denomination) Holiness Movement Cru (until 2011 known as Campus Crusade for Christ) (Interdenominational Christian parachurch organization) Late Great Planet Earth by Hal Lindsey Left Behind Lutheran Augustine of Hippo Alfred North Whitehead (English Mathematician and Philosopher) Charles Hartshorne (American philosopher) Matthew 16:24-26 NRSV (Take up cross to follow Jesus verse) ORTCon 2022 ORTLine 2022 MORE ON OUR GUEST THOMAS JAY OORD Thomas Jay Oord is a theologian, philosopher, and scholar of multi-disciplinary studies. Oord is a best-selling and award-winning author, having written or edited more than twenty-five books. He directs a doctoral program at Northwind Theological Seminary and the Center for Open and Relational Theology. A twelve-time Faculty Award-winning professor, he teaches around the globe. Oord is known for his contributions to research on love, open and relational theology, science and religion, and the implications of freedom and relationships for transformation. Check out his website at ThomasJayOord.com SUPPORT THE SHOW You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month. However, that does not mean that we do not have expense related to the show. If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options. PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3). MERCH - Irenicast has a merch store at Irenicast.com/Store. We are always developing more items so check out our current offerings. AMAZON - Next time you go to make a purchase on Amazon consider using our Amazon affiliate link. This will give us a small portion on everything you purchase. No additional cost will be passed on to you. IRENCAST HOSTS Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | bonnie@irenicast.com You can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC and haystackspodcast.com. Pastor Casey Martinez-Tinnin, MTS | co-host | casey@irenicast.com You can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | jeff@irenicast.com Follow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter. You can also listen to Jeff's other podcast Divine Cinema. Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | rajeev@irenicast.com You can connect with Rajeev at Parkside Community Church, Facebook, Twitter, Medium, LinkedIn, and Haystacks Podcast. ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION Join our progressive Christian conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links: Email Us at podcast@irenicast.com Follow Us on Twitter Like Us on Facebook Listen & Subscribe to Us on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Android, Spotify, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart Radio, Spreaker, Pandora and SoundCloud Speak to Us on our Feedback Page and the Post Evangelical Facebook Group See Us on Instagram Support Us on PayPal, Amazon or at our Store Love Us? CREDITS Intro and Outro music created by Mike Golin. This post may contain affiliate links. An Irenicon is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com
In this episode of the Parker's Pensées Podcast, I'm joined by Dr. Brian Orr to discuss his work on Thomas Oord's doctrine of creation. Oord posits that God created out of preexisting stuff and that God always had to have a creation alongside Himself or he wouldn't be able to be essentially loving. Check out more from Dr. Orr at readreflectwrite.com If you like this podcast, then support it on Patreon for $1, $3, or $5 a month. Any amount helps, and for $5 you get a Parker's Pensées sticker and instant access to all the episode as I record them instead of waiting for their release date. Check it out here: Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/parkers_pensees If you want to give a one-time gift, you can give at my Paypal: https://paypal.me/ParkersPensees?locale.x=en_US Check out my merchandise at my Teespring store: https://teespring.com/stores/parkers-penses-merch Check out my blog posts: https://parkersettecase.com/ Check out my Parker's Pensées YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYbTRurpFP5q4TpDD_P2JDA Check out my other YouTube channel on my frogs and turtles: https://www.youtube.com/c/ParkerSettecase Check me out on Twitter: https://twitter.com/trendsettercase Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/parkers_pensees/ Time Is Running by MusicLFiles Link: https://filmmusic.io/song/6203-time-is-running License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/parkers-pensees/support
How does our theology of God influence how we live in the world. In this episode I look at Thomas Oord's new book Open and Relational Theism and think about this helps us address climate change.
Keeping the alliteration theme going, Craig and Cody talk about the letter “O” on this episode! Opening with some, um… QUESTIONABLE (at best) beatboxing and a MUCH too deep of a dive into the anthropological implications of Disney's Pinocchio (although some profound things were definitely accidentally said), we moved quickly to our O topics for the day: OHTANI Like every other baseball fan (and an increasing number of non-baseball fans), we are ENTHRALLED with Shohei “Shotime” Ohtani. What he is achieving this season so far is unprecedented in the history of the game. This discussion was recorded prior to the All-Star Game, where Ohtani became the first player in MLB history to start in the mid-season classic as both a pitcher and a hitter. He is leading the majors in home runs AND pitching very well (one disastrous outing aside). We discuss: Preaching illustrations using Ohtani's ability to “be ready in season or out of season. Why self-labeled “purists” need to get over their disdain of the Babe Ruth comparisons and just enjoy what we are witnessing OLYMPICS Our discussion of comparing eras of sports led to a discussion on activist athletes in history, and competitors whose mere existence and life story inspired minorities and moved change forward. The Olympics have historically been a place where international politics have led to some dismal decisions—and this years Olympics are no different. We discuss: The Nigerian Olympic team being unable to field a 400 team because the JUDGES placed the cones wrong, leading to disqualifications of all competitors. Caster Semanya, and her lifetime ban from competing due to hormone levels beyond her control Two Nambian Olympic sprinters, Christine Mboma and Beatrice Masilingi were disqualified from competing in the 400 meter for the same reason as Caster—natural testosterone levels too high (though they CAN compete in the 200?) Sha'carri Richardson essentially being banned from the Olympic team for he use of marijuana. Brianna Rollins-McNeal and her HIGHLY questionable five-year ban for “tampering with medical records,” when she CORRECTED the medical records incorrect date that was listed (she adjusted the doctor's mistaken date of a procedure). We notice the common denominator in ALL of this: women of color being forced not to compete. OPEN & RELATIONAL THEOLOGY, OORD We share some insights on Dr. Thomas Oord's newest book Open & Relational Theology: An Introduction to Life-Changing Ideas (which features an endorsement from the All That's Holy Blue Collar Podcast. We give a basic overview of the book, with Cody sharing some of his favorite things about the book How open & relational theology is a perfect avenue to explore God during times of trauma and upheaval And of course a whole lot more! Follow and interact with The All That's Holy: Blue Collar Podcast on Facebook and Twitter Follow and buy music from At The Speed of Darkness on Bandcamp and Instagram.
“God's got this!” “Let go and let God.” “Everything will be okay in the end.” Despite being great bumper stickers, these sayings actually cause more theological problems than they solve. Today we're chatting with Dr. Thomas Jay Oord, an open and relational theologian, about what God can and can't do, what God does and does not know, and how we may have gotten God's nature wrong for centuries.Follow Dr. Oord on Instagram and on Twitter (@ThomasJayOord) and check out his new book, Open and Relational Theology: An Introduction to Life-Changing Ideas!If you enjoyed this episode, please leave us a rating and a review
Steve Bray, Steve Dawe, and Matt Lahey join Adam to talk about Thomas Oord's idea about God and healing. Is there a reason God doesn't heal everyone? Does God need our co-operation?
Steve Bray, Steve Dawe, and Matt Lahey join Adam to talk about Thomas Oord's idea about God and healing. Is there a reason God doesn't heal everyone? Does God need our co-operation?
Steve Bray, Steve Dawe, and David Drover join Adam to discuss the idea that God can't stop evil. In a response to Thomas Oord's book, God Can't, hear the guys discuss the problems with this view
Steve Bray, Steve Dawe, and David Drover join Adam to discuss the idea that God can't stop evil. In a response to Thomas Oord's book, God Can't, hear the guys discuss the problems with this view
In a time of skepticism concerning religious belief, let’s talk about God and Love. Is it true that there really is a loving God, but that God does not know the future in advance? Is it true that God cannot control what happens in the world, but that God can indeed lure or guide the world into well-being if the world responds? Is it true that God shares in the experiences of each and all, as a fellow sufferer who understands? Is it true that God is Love: not human love, but rather a cosmic love within us and beyond us, everywhere at once, flowing from a personal being, beyond specific location, who listens to us, hears our prayers, and cares for us and all creatures, all of the time? Thomas Oord answers “yes” to all of these questions. The author of many books on God and love, and a talented photographer as well, he is a key leader in the “open and relational theology” movement. We spend an hour with him talking about his life, his work, his ideas, and his hopes for the future.
Wer trotz allem weiter glauben möchte, muss einen Weg finden, Glauben zu rekonstruieren. Das erfordert viel Mut und immer wieder die Bereitschaft, Neues auszuprobieren und zu lernen. Aus seiner eigenen Blase und Geschichte herauszutreten und in Bewegung zu bleiben. Menschen einzuladen, die mit einem gemeinsam auf die Suche gehen. Ein wichtiger Gefährte auf dieser Reise ist für mich Jason Liesendahl, mit dem ich mein bisher lustiges Gespräch geführt habe. Wir haben über den Umgang mit der eigenen Geschichte und wie wir uns Gemeinde vorstellen gesprochen. Außerdem lernst du mehr über die Prozesstheologie, falls sie dir noch nicht bekannt ist. Wir hoffen, dass wir dich im Gespräch zum Nachdenken und vielleicht auch Schmunzeln bringen. Nützliche Links zur Episode und das Kleingedruckte: Mehr über Jason und seine Arbeit kannst du hier lesen: https://freestyleprojekt.de Auf Instagram ist Jason unter @ƒreestyleprojekt zu finden Wenn du dich in Prozesstheologie einlesen willst, empfiehlt Jason diese Bücher: Catherine Keller. Über das Geheimnis. Herder, 2013. Thomas Oord. Gottes Liebe zwingt nicht. SacraSage, 2020. Den Podcast findest du bei Instagram unter @strichpunkt.pod Musik: “Upbeat Corporate” by JP Bianchini Copyright: strich;punkt 2021
Does God need our prayers to help Him stop evil? If He can defeat evil without us, why doesn't he? Today's guests appear to have some concrete direction on making sense of the "problem of evil." But they go in two different directions. Oord proposes that God simply lacks the power to stop bad things from happening and needs our partnership to minimize the effects of evil. Chip believes that an all-powerful God has willfully given humanity dominion over this world and suggests that people possess a God-given duty of using the "weapon of prayer" to unleash God's power in order to stop evil. So, is God innately limited? Or is He self-limited? Both outlooks are a bit unnerving. Maybe, let's just stick with good old-fashion mystery. Thomas Oord appeared on episode 209 to discuss his book on Open Theology, "God Can't." Unique and intriguing territory is covered in this follow-up conversation, discussing his follow-up book, "Questions and Answers for God Can't."Thomas:http://thomasjayoord.com/ https://twitter.com/thomasjayoordChip:https://chipjudd.com/https://twitter.com/chipjuddInstagram account: www.instagram.com/PWNApodCurrent DonorSee: https://donorsee.com/pwnahelpsGet notifications each time we start raising money to get more information on our current opportunity to “save the day” for team humanity. Text PWNAd to 31010. Join us as a patron! https://www.patreon.com/pwnapodJoin the discussion: https://www.facebook.com/groups/PWNAtalkSocials:https://twitter.com/pwnapodhttps://twitter.com/joeysvendsenhttps://www.facebook.com/PWNApod CALL 507-403-PWNA (7962): Questions, Comments, Feedback, Pushback, frustration? Air it out on our voicemail and we may air it on an episode. E-mail PWNAcontact@gmail.com for correspondence Music courtesy of:http://www.derekminor.com/Executive Producer of PWNApod: Jared Svendsen Support the show
Can we participate in the process of creating surprising and unusual events? What are miracles? These are just a few of the questions we explore. A conversation with Thomas Oord, Andre and Mary-Anne Rabe.
Possibility can never be reduced to certainty. A conversation between Andre Rabe and Thomas Oord
Can perfection be more than an idealistic theory and become tangibly real? A conversation between Thomas Oord and Andre Rabe
Wonder what would happen if a Reformed theologian sat down with a Wesleyan/Open theologian to talk about their differences? Theologians Thomas Jay Oord and Oliver Crisp hash it out. Hosted by Sarey Martin Concepcion.What new insights concerning human nature may be discovered when theology and psychological science are brought together? This series was born out of our project called TheoPsych, an initiative that supports science-engaged theology to discover how psychological science could help serve our theological research. blueprint1543.org
Last week, we fostered a healthy debate between Dr. Chris Green and Dr. Thomas Oord about whether or not God knows the future. Welcome to Part 2, where we continue that discussion and dive into a few more topics: Does God need us? Can he prevent evil on his own? If he can't, how can we trust his promises? We are often provided a rigid perspective of faith that we must deconstruct and rebuild throughout our lives. Join us today as we take a look at seemingly contrasting ideas that, together, point to the ever-deepening love of God. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/everydaytheology/support
In this week's episode I sit down with my friend Thomas Oord to talk about his latest book, "God Can't: Q&A". We talk about prayer and miracles and what it looks like to pray to a God who can't. SHOW NOTES: Patreon What If Project Community What If Project STORE Thomas Oord Northwind Theological Seminary SPECIAL MUSIC: Before Jane (APPLE / SPOTIFY)
What a fantastic conversation. I hope you love it as much as I did.
Is love all you need? Larry explores how knowing more about the love of God opens new ways of living with freedom and caring. He draws from Dr. Thomas Oord's amazing work on the uncontrolling love of God to create paths for greater well-being in our daily life.
We're taking a break from our Women's Voices series this week to have an important conversation with Thomas Oord, theologian and author of the book, "God Can't". In this episode we talk about COVID-19 and the many memes floating around the Internet arguing that the pandemic is the latest installment of God's judgement against sin. SHOW NOTES: Patreon What If Project Community What If Project STORE Thomas Oord God Can't SPECIAL MUSIC - DJ KDOT - Apple Music - Spotify - Instagram
Thomas Oord (ThomasJayOord.com) wrote a book entitled “God Can’t.” It’s an articulate presentation of Open Theism, a belief that supposes for freewill to exist, the future is unknowable, even to God. So if God doesn’t know the future, this would mean limitations in his power which goes against what most believe about God. At the same time, this posture is more suitable to make sense of all the pain in this world. It goes like this: It’s not that God allows evil, but rather because He gave us freewill, He doesn’t know the evil we’ll do and thus can’t stop it. This is an intriguing discussion in which Jack Hoey and I try to make sense of this theology as well as poke holes in it. Although I do not hold this view, it’s certainly not as far-fetched as it may appear at first glance. Thomas Oord: www.thomasjayoord.com support this podcast: https://www.patreon.com/pwnapod follow this podcast: https://www.facebook.com/PWNApod/ join the discussion: https://www.facebook.com/groups/PWNAtalk/ follow joey on T and I: @joeysvendsen
It's part 4 of our series "Setting the Bible Free" and today we get to sit down with Thomas Oord. Thomas is a scholar, theologian, and author who was on the podcast earlier this year to talk about his more recent book, "God Can't". In today's episode he shares some thoughts about the Bible and takes some questions from our listeners as well. SHOW NOTES: Revelation (the document Thomas mentioned in the episode) Patreon What If Project SWAG What If Project Community God Can't Thomas Oord Special Music - Yung Citizen
Thomas Oord joins us to for a conversation about God's uncontrolling love. And if God's love is uncontrolling, it turns out there's a lot God can't do. Tons of implications so get into it! Thomas Jay Oord is a theologian, philosopher, and scholar of multi-disciplinary studies. Oord is a best-selling and award-winning author, having written or edited more than twenty-five books. A twelve-time Faculty Award winning professor, Oord teaches at institutions around the globe. A gifted speaker, Oord is known for his contributions to research on love, open and relational theology, science and religion, and the implications of freedom and relationships for transformation. http://thomasjayoord.com/ Get the book, "God Can't:How to Believe in God and Love after Tragedy, Abuse, and Other Evils" About the book: "Hurting people ask heart-felt questions about God and suffering. Some "answers" they receive appeal to mystery: “God’s ways are not our ways”. Some answers say God allows evil for a greater purpose. Some say evil is God's punishment. The usual answers fail. They don't support the truth God loves everyone all the time. God Can't gives a believable answer to why a good and powerful God doesn't prevent evil.Author Thomas Jay Oord says God’s love is inherently uncontrolling. God loves everyone and everything, so God can't control anyone or anything. This means God cannot prevent evil singlehandedly. God can’t stop evildoers, whether human, animal, organisms, or inanimate objects and forces.In God Can't, Oord gives a plausible reason why some are healed but many others are not. God always works to heal everyone, but sometimes our bodies, organisms, or other creatures do not cooperate with God's healing work. Or the conditions of creation are not right for the healing God wants to do. Some people think God causes or allows suffering to teach us lessons or build our character. God Can't disagrees. Oord says God squeezes good from the evil God didn’t want in the first place. God uses pain and suffering without willing or even allowing it.Most people think God can overcome evil singlehandedly. In God Can't, Oord says God needs cooperation for love to reign now and later. This leads to a better view of the afterlife he calls, “relentless love.” It rejects traditional ideas of heaven, hell, and annihilation. Relentless love holds to the possibility all creatures and all creation will respond to God’s love.God Can't is written in understandable language. Thomas Jay Oord's status as a world-renown theologian brings credibility to the book’s radical ideas. He explains these ideas through true stories, illustrations, and scripture. God Can't is for those who want answers to tragedy, abuse, and other evils that make sense!" Get all feedbacky with us:-Subscribe to Bros Bibles & Beer on Apple Podcasts-Rate and review us on Apple Podcasts!-https://www.facebook.com/brosbiblesbeer-https://twitter.com/brosbiblesbeer-https://www.brosbiblesbeer.com-Instagram: @brosbiblesbeer-Email: brosbiblesbeer@gmail.comBros Bibles & Beer is: Mr. Jeff Pearson, Mr Scott "the scoot" Hulbert & Mr. Zack KraterEdited by: Zack KraterFind us wherever fine podcasts are distributed. Oh, and tell a friend!Grace. Peace. Cheers!
Greg talks about making his book "God of the Possible," then offers his initial thoughts on Thomas Oord's book "God Can't." Episode 468 Send Questions To: Dan: @thatdankentTwitter: @reKnewOrg Facebook: ReKnew Email: askgregboyd@gmail.com Links: Greg's book:"Crucifixion of the Warrior God" Website: ReKnew.org
Better late than never! This week we dive into the beauty that is the diversity of the proto-orthodox church and my assertion that any claims of “orthodoxy” that are not situated in an active desire for the flourishing of dynamic and diverse expressions of the faith betray the beauty of the earliest Christian communities. In this episode we journey with the second century heretics Marcion and Tatian to discover why fidelity to Jesus means that we modern Christians should be willing to recognize diverse expressions of what it means to follow Jesus. Subscribe to Signposts! Want to stay up to date on all thins Exile Liturgy and #LessonsFromDeadGuys? Then click this link and come join me as we explore the wild paths as we explore the wild paths together! Book giveaway! Do you want a chance to receive Dr. Thomas Oord's latest book "God Can't" ??? Because I am giving a brand new copy away to a random Supporter of the show! You can support the show via Patreon and for as little as $1 a month and be entered into a chance to receive a free book every single month! And not to mention you get access to some cool perks while you are at it!Music provided by Alex Sugg, and songsforstory.comSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/ryancagle)
Today we talk to theologian and author Thomas Oord about his new book, "God Can't". If you've ever wondered WHY bad things happen, WHY bad things happen to good people, or WHERE God was when ________, AND if you're tired of the easy answers of "God has a plan" , "everything happens for a reason" , "God is sovereign and this tragedy is all part of His plan to make your mess His message" - this episode and book are for you. -- Thomas Oord God Can't Theologians And Philosophers Using Social Media The Sin of Certainty by Pete Enns Divine Echoes by Mark Karris
Burn your John Piper book collection, because Thomas Oord is here to reconfigure everything you've thought about God. In this episode Thomas chats about his newly released book, God Can't: How to Believe in God and Love After Abuse, Tragedy, and Other Evils. Guest Bio/Info: Thomas Oord is a theologian, philosopher, and scholar of multi-disciplinary studies. He is known for his contributions to research on love, open and relational theology, science and religion, and the implications of freedom and relationships for transformation. Oord is also an award-winning author, and he has written or edited more than twenty books, including his newly released book, God Can't: How to Believe in God and Love after Tragedy, Abuse, and Other Evils. Find Thomas here: thomasjayoord.com Twitter: @ThomasJayOord Instagram: thomasjayoord Facebook: facebook.com/thomas.oord Special music by Jamie Barnes: jamiebarnes.bandcamp.com Twitter: @jamiebarnes Get connected to Mason: masonmennenga.com Patreon: patreon.com/masonmennenga Twitter: @masonmennenga Facebook: facebook.com/mason.mennenga Instagram: masonmennenga
The second episode of 2019 is here! This week I am joined by our first returning guest Dr. Thomas J. Oord to talk about his forthcoming book "God Can't." In this book Thomas has ambitiously proposed a solution to the greatest theological/philosophical question to in human existence... If God is good then, why does evil exist in the world?It was such a joy to have Tom back on the show and I can not recommend his latest book enough. In this episode we push back against the traditional metaphysics of God's omnipotence. We talk about a better way to understand how God is "Almighty," the continued work of God beyond the grave, and how God heals via the cooperation of all of creation. God Can't will be available in all formats by the end of the month but will be ready for purchase on Amazon on the January 10th!You can connect with Tom and get his new book here:GodCant.comthomasjayoord.comTom's Facebook and TwitterSubscribe to Signposts! Want to stay up to date on all thins Exile Liturgy and #LessonsFromDeadGuys? Then click this link and come join me as we explore the wild paths as we explore the wild paths together! Support the Show! (We are 58% to our first goal!!!!)You can support the show via Patreon and get access to some cool perks while you are at it!Music provided by Alex Sugg, and songsforstory.comSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/ryancagle)
Professor Thomas Oord has spent years wrestling with the problem of evil. Why, if God is all powerful and all loving, is there so much evil in the world? This question has brought Thomas to the edge of his faith. In recent years, though, he has begun to consider a radical solution. Perhaps God can't stop evil? As shocking as this sounds, Thomas is careful to show how biblical this idea is, and just how much it looks like Jesus. Tune in for a mind bending episode! Interview begins at 11m 21s If you want more from Nomad, check out our website, and follow us on Facebook and twitter If you're looking for other people to share this journey with, then register on our Listener Map, and see if any other nomads are in your area. Nomad can only keep going because a small group of faithful listeners help us pay the bills. If you want to join them, you can make regular donations at Patreon or a one-off or regular donation through PayPal, the links to which you can find on our support page. As a thank you, you'll have access to Nomad Book Club, our online community The Beloved Listener Lounge, and Nomad Devotionals, where we're attempting to reconstruct worship through a creative mix of songs, music, readings, prayers and guest reflections.
God’s omniscience and omnipotence are such common doctrines, we forget there are sincere Christians who don't believe in either. Open theology teaches that true human freewill and God’s foreknowledge of the future is incompatible. Thomas Oord, leading theologian in this doctrine, explains the peace he has knowing that evil exists because God can’t stop it. We also listen to and dissect Joel Osteen's response to the whole "our doors were closed until you asked us to open them" fiasco. Links & Sponsors: badchristianmedia.com thebcclub.com emerymusic.com mattandtobyband.com MeUndies: meundies.com/BADCHRISTIAN Zip Recruiter: ziprecruiter.com/BADCHRISTIAN Indochino: indochino.com code BADCHRISTIAN
Theologian Thomas Oord walks John and Dan through his novel theory of providence, which highlights God’s noncoercive love. He’s also giving away a free audio copy of his book, The Uncontrolling Love of God. Follow this link and scroll down to the show notes to access the book: https://www.reconstructpodcast.com/podcast | For more information visit www.reconstructpodcast.com