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Wretched Radio
WHY ‘KING OF KINGS' MISSES THE MARK ON TRUE CHRISTIANITY

Wretched Radio

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 10, 2025 54:59


Segment 1 • Animated movie produced by Joel Osteen raises concerns. • "King of Kings" draws from Charles Dickens' theology, which emphasizes works righteousness. • Christianity shouldn't be reduced to a to-do list, especially in media. Segment 2 • New film based on Charles Dickens' theology, produced by Joel Osteen. • Dickens was influenced by Unitarianism, rejecting the Doctrine of the Trinity and Original Sin. • "The Life of Our Lord" highlights Dickens' moralistic view, not the gospel of grace. Segment 3 • Which story is most agitating? ◦ A professor launches a course called "The Queer Bible." ◦ Euthanasia in the Netherlands on the rise. ◦ Persecution of Christians in Nigeria. ◦ Flu vaccine paradox: higher risk of flu among vaccinated. ◦ Leftists justifying violence against Trump. Segment 4 • More shocking stories from today's culture: ◦ Men competing in female sports tournaments. ◦ Liberal women disowning straight children. ◦ Australian Christians potentially jailed for praying for LGBT individuals. ◦ Scientific claims about animal communication showing signs of complex thought. ___ Preorder the new book, Lies My Therapist Told Me, by Fortis Institute Fellow Dr. Greg Gifford now! https://www.harpercollins.com/pages/liesmytherapisttoldme ___ Thanks for listening! Wretched Radio would not be possible without the financial support of our Gospel Partners. If you would like to support Wretched Radio we would be extremely grateful. VISIT https://fortisinstitute.org/donate/ If you are already a Gospel Partner we couldn't be more thankful for you if we tried!

Out of Bounds with Bo Bounds
4-8-25 SEC Insider Hit: The Florida Gators are your National Champions, yet again. Plus, Jackson's taking shots at Joel Osteen.

Out of Bounds with Bo Bounds

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 8, 2025 25:57


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Apologetics Profile
Episode 283: The Occult Roots of the Prosperity Gospel with Dr. Richard Howe [Part 2]

Apologetics Profile

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 7, 2025 48:35


Word-faith teachers claim that faith is a kind of power or force that we can utilize to our advantage to help us prosper physically, financially, and spiritually. This week philosopher and apologist Dr. Richard G. Howe will continue to unpack the problematic doctrines and practices of the word-faith prosperity heresy and give us sound, biblical insights as to how we can prevent and counter-act these false teachings.  Dr. Richard G. Howe is a writer as well as a public speaker and debater in churches, conferences, and university campuses on issues concerning Christian apologetics and philosophy. He is Norman L. Geisler Chair of Christian Apologetics at Southern Evangelical Seminary in Charlotte, North Carolina where he also serves as Professor of Philosophy and Apologetics and as the Provost. Dr. Howe is Past President of the International Society of Christian Apologetics.Related Links: Here are some of our related 4-page Profiles on the Word Faith Movement, popular Prosperity Gospel preachers, the occult and New Age / Mind Science religions: Watchman Fellowship Profile on the Word Faith Movement by Dr. Robert M. Bowman: www.watchman.org/WordFaith Watchman Fellowship Profile on the Benny Hinn by Justin Peters: www.watchman.org/Hinn Watchman Fellowship Profile on the Joel Osteen by Dr. Robert M. Bowman: www.watchman.org/Osteen Watchman Fellowship Profile on the Joyce Meyer by Tim Martin: www.watchman.org/Meyer Watchman Fellowship Profile on The Occult by James Walker: www.watchman.org/TheOccult Watchman Fellowship Profile on The Secret by James Walker: www.watchman.org/TheSecret Watchman Fellowship Profile on Christian Science by Craig Branch: www.watchman.org/ChristianScience Watchman Fellowship Profile on Unity School of Christianity by Rick Branch: www.watchman.org/Unity Watchman Fellowship Profile on Witchcraft / Wicca by Dr. Brady Blevins: www.watchman.org/Wicca Watchman Fellowship's Profile on Spiritual Abuse Recovery Workbook by David Henke: www.watchman.org/SA Additional ResourcesFREE: We are also offering a subscription to our 4-page bimonthly Profiles here: www.watchman.org/FreePROFILE NOTEBOOK: Order the complete collection of Watchman Fellowship Profiles (around 700 pages -- from Astrology to Zen Buddhism) in either printed or PDF formats here: www.watchman.org/NotebookSUPPORT: Help us create more content like this. Make a tax-deductible donation here: www.watchman.org/GiveApologetics Profile is a ministry of Watchman Fellowship For more information, visit www.watchman.org © Watchman Fellowship, Inc.

Pastor Michael Fernandes
Keys to Protection & Favour | सुरक्षा और अनुग्रह की कुंजी

Pastor Michael Fernandes

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 7, 2025 42:26


The message reveals two essential keys to protection and favor: proper leadership and genuine relationships. Through the story of Laish in Judges 18, it demonstrates how lack of leadership and connections left people vulnerable to attack. True keys to protection and favor come through submitting to godly leadership, which provides direction and covering, while building authentic relationships ensures spiritual support and growth. The message emphasizes that receiving divine protection and favor requires maintaining these two elements, as leadership without relationships becomes dictatorship, while relationships without leadership lack guidance. All these questions were answered just as Perry Stone, Jonathan Cahn, John Hagee, Jentezen Franklin, Benny Hinn, Chris Oyaklihome, Steven Furtick, Joel Osteen, Joseph Prince, Joyce Meyer, Paul Dhinakaran, Samuel Patta, Ezekiah Francis, Johnson Varghese, Paul Thangiah, Mohan C Lazarus, TD Jakes and others. 01.) Why did the people of Laish get attacked?02.) What are the two primary things a leader provides?03.) Is Jesus your leader?04.) What happens when there's no leader in a place?05.) What's the difference between leadership and dictatorship?06.) How do social media connections differ from real relationships?07.) What's the first thing the devil attacks?08.) What price must be paid for relationships?09.) Why do many Christians struggle today?10.) What makes rules become either law or grace?

Pastor Michael Fernandes
Tuning into the Divine Frequency - I | दिव्य आवृत्ति से जुड़ना - I

Pastor Michael Fernandes

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 5, 2025 46:30


The message explores how believers can tune into the divine frequency through spiritual connection with God. Just as whales communicate in frequencies only they understand, God speaks in spiritual frequencies that require believers to move beyond physical hearing. Tuning into the divine frequency demands quieting one's spirit and spending time alone with God, similar to how scientists immerse themselves in whale environments to understand their communication. The key to tuning into the divine frequency is transitioning from physical to spiritual awareness. Like Moses, Paul, and John, believers must step away from distractions to clearly receive divine frequencies and hear God's voice.All these questions were answered just as Perry Stone, Jonathan Cahn, John Hagee, Jentezen Franklin, Benny Hinn, Chris Oyaklihome, Steven Furtick, Joel Osteen, Joseph Prince, Joyce Meyer, Paul Dhinakaran, Samuel Patta, Ezekiah Francis, Johnson Varghese, Paul Thangiah, Mohan C Lazarus, TD Jakes and others. 1. How does God communicate with people?2. Why can some people understand God's messages while others cannot?3. What language does God speak?4. How can believers tune into God's frequency?5. Why are many Christians frustrated in their spiritual life?6. What prevents people from hearing God's voice?7. Why did God call spiritual leaders to isolated places?8. How will only some people hear the trumpet during the rapture?9. Why is being 'in the spirit' essential for worship?10 How can believers get direction for important life decisions?

Pastor Michael Fernandes
Tuning into the Divine Frequency - II | दिव्य आवृत्ति से जुड़ना - II

Pastor Michael Fernandes

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 5, 2025 50:50


Pastor Michael teaches how tuning into the Divine frequency requires focused attention to God's voice. He emphasizes that many hear but don't truly listen, comparing it to airport noise that residents tune out. To effectively tune into the Divine frequency, believers must walk in the Spirit, manifesting the nine fruits including love, joy, and self-control. The key to tuning into the Divine frequency is allowing God's love to flow within, as it enables clearer spiritual reception. Those who maintain this Divine frequency connection become lovers of God who receive intimate divine direction.All these questions were answered just as Perry Stone, Jonathan Cahn, John Hagee, Jentezen Franklin, Benny Hinn, Chris Oyaklihome, Steven Furtick, Joel Osteen, Joseph Prince, TD Jakes and others. 1. How can you differentiate between merely hearing and actually listening to God's voice?2. What is the first key to hearing God's voice?3. Why does God speak to some people and not others?4. How do you know you're walking in the Spirit?5. Why is faithfulness more important than talent in ministry?6. How does the love of God get activated in believers?7. What happens when God's love grows cold in a believer?8. How is the fruit of self-control developed?9. Why do some people hear God's voice as just thunder while others hear it as His voice?10. What's the relationship between walking in the Spirit and hearing God's voice?

Pastor Michael Fernandes
Receive the Anointing of Speed that Breaks Delay | विलंब को समाप्त करनेवाली गति का अभिषेक प्राप्त करें

Pastor Michael Fernandes

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 5, 2025 34:24


The message emphasizes receiving the anointing of speed that breaks delay through sustained prayer and Word immersion. Using examples like Aaron's rod and Nehemiah's wall-building, the teaching demonstrates how the anointing of speed breaks delay supernaturally. When believers soak in God's presence, the anointing of speed accelerates their breakthroughs. The message highlights that this anointing of speed that breaks delay defies natural limitations, as seen in Jesus's disciples' boat experience. Through the anointing of speed, God can restore lost years and break every delay, leading to supernatural acceleration in every area of life.All these questions were answered just as Perry Stone, Jonathan Cahn, John Hagee, Jentezen Franklin, Benny Hinn, Chris Oyaklihome, Steven Furtick, Joel Osteen, Joseph Prince, Joyce Meyer, Paul Dhinakaran, Samuel Patta, Ezekiah Francis, Johnson Varghese, Paul Thangiah, Mohan C Lazarus, TD Jakes and others. 1. What defines us in the Kingdom of God?2. How does the anointing of speed manifest?3. What is the primary way to receive the anointing of speed?4. Can God restore lost time?5. How important is knowing God's Word in receiving supernatural acceleration?6. What happened to Aaron's rod in the presence of God?7. How quickly can God's acceleration work?8. What role does God's presence play in acceleration?9. Is there biblical evidence for rapid completion of major projects?10. What practical step was given for activating this anointing?

The Miracle Channel Podcast
It's Already Defeated | Joel Osteen

The Miracle Channel Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 2, 2025 26:06


In this episode, Joel Osteen shares how what you're up against has already been defeated. Because you belong to God, nothing can keep you from His promises. Donate here to support outreaches that are sharing the truth about Jesus to Canada! Visit our website to discover new resources that will help you grow closer to Jesus every day. Connect with us on social media: YouTube | Instagram | Facebook | TikTok Follow Joel Osteen: Facebook | Instagram | Podcast | YouTube

Jay's Analysis
Pt 1 - Megachurch MADNESS Pt 1!: Paula White, Joel Osteen, Billy Graham, Kenneth Copeland!

Jay's Analysis

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 31, 2025 123:45


Today we cover mega church evangelical madness once again, noting the history, influences and absurdities of the odd Americanist movement, as well as its large scale fraudulent scammers. Send Superchats at any time here: https://streamlabs.com/jaydyer/tip Get started with Bitcoin here: https://www.swanbitcoin.com/jaydyer/ The New Philosophy Course is here: https://marketplace.autonomyagora.com/philosophy101 Set up recurring Choq subscription with the discount code JAY44LIFE for 44% off now https://choq.com Lore coffee is here: https://www.patristicfaith.com/coffee/ Orders for the Red Book are here: https://jaysanalysis.com/product/the-red-book-essays-on-theology-philosophy-new-jay-dyer-book/ Subscribe to my site here: https://jaysanalysis.com/membership-account/membership-levels/ Follow me on R0kfin here: https://rokfin.com/jaydyer Music by Amid the Ruins 1453 Join this channel to get access to perks: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnt7Iy8GlmdPwy_Tzyx93bA/joinBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/jay-sanalysis--1423846/support.

Jay's Analysis
Pt 2 -Megachurch MADNESS Pt 1!: Paula White, Joel Osteen, Billy Graham, Kenneth Copeland!

Jay's Analysis

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 31, 2025 110:23


Today we cover mega church evangelical madness once again, noting the history, influences and absurdities of the odd Americanist movement, as well as its large scale fraudulent scammers. Send Superchats at any time here: https://streamlabs.com/jaydyer/tip Get started with Bitcoin here: https://www.swanbitcoin.com/jaydyer/ The New Philosophy Course is here: https://marketplace.autonomyagora.com/philosophy101 Set up recurring Choq subscription with the discount code JAY44LIFE for 44% off now https://choq.com Lore coffee is here: https://www.patristicfaith.com/coffee/ Orders for the Red Book are here: https://jaysanalysis.com/product/the-red-book-essays-on-theology-philosophy-new-jay-dyer-book/ Subscribe to my site here: https://jaysanalysis.com/membership-account/membership-levels/ Follow me on R0kfin here: https://rokfin.com/jaydyer Music by Amid the Ruins 1453 Join this channel to get access to perks: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnt7Iy8GlmdPwy_Tzyx93bA/joinBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/jay-sanalysis--1423846/support.

Apologetics Profile
Episode 282: The Occult Roots of the Prosperity Gospel with Dr. Richard Howe [Part 1]

Apologetics Profile

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 31, 2025 38:25


The word-faith prosperity gospel is not really the Gospel at all. Much of the heretical theology and practice within the word-faith movement comes from much older and long-standing occult beliefs and practice. This week and next on Apologetics Profile, we'll be featuring president of Watchman Fellowship James K. Walker's conversation with Dr. Richard Howe about the occult influences in the doctrines of highly popular word-faith teachers such as Kenneth Hagin, Kenneth Copeland, Benny Hinn and Joyce Meyer.Dr. Richard G. Howe is a writer as well as a public speaker and debater in churches, conferences, and university campuses on issues concerning Christian apologetics and philosophy. He is Norman L. Geisler Chair of Christian Apologetics at Southern Evangelical Seminary in Charlotte, North Carolina where he also serves as Professor of Philosophy and Apologetics and as the Provost. Dr. Howe is Past President of the International Society of Christian Apologetics.Related Links: Here are some of our related 4-page Profiles on the Word Faith Movement, popular Prosperity Gospel preachers, the occult and New Age / Mind Science religions: Watchman Fellowship Profile on the Word Faith Movement by Dr. Robert M. Bowman: www.watchman.org/WordFaith Watchman Fellowship Profile on the Benny Hinn by Justin Peters: www.watchman.org/Hinn Watchman Fellowship Profile on the Joel Osteen by Dr. Robert M. Bowman: www.watchman.org/Osteen Watchman Fellowship Profile on the Joyce Meyer by Tim Martin: www.watchman.org/Meyer Watchman Fellowship Profile on The Occult by James Walker: www.watchman.org/TheOccult Watchman Fellowship Profile on The Secret by James Walker: www.watchman.org/TheSecret Watchman Fellowship Profile on Christian Science by Craig Branch: www.watchman.org/ChristianScience Watchman Fellowship Profile on Unity School of Christianity by Rick Branch: www.watchman.org/Unity Watchman Fellowship Profile on Witchcraft / Wicca by Dr. Brady Blevins: www.watchman.org/Wicca Watchman Fellowship's Profile on Spiritual Abuse Recovery Workbook by David Henke: www.watchman.org/SA Additional ResourcesFREE: We are also offering a subscription to our 4-page bimonthly Profiles here: www.watchman.org/FreePROFILE NOTEBOOK: Order the complete collection of Watchman Fellowship Profiles (around 700 pages -- from Astrology to Zen Buddhism) in either printed or PDF formats here: www.watchman.org/NotebookSUPPORT: Help us create more content like this. Make a tax-deductible donation here: www.watchman.org/GiveApologetics Profile is a ministry of Watchman Fellowship For more information, visit www.watchman.org © Watchman Fellowship, Inc.

Pastor Michael Fernandes
Why 50% of Christians Will Miss the Rapture - II | क्यों 50% मसीह रैप्चर से चूक जाएंगे - II

Pastor Michael Fernandes

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 31, 2025 40:08


In this sermon Why 50% of Christians Will Miss the Rapture? Pastor Michael urges listeners to stay spiritually alert, engage in "midnight prayers", and be prepared for Christ's sudden return to avoid being among the 50% of Christians who will allegedly miss the Rapture and be left behind.All these questions were answered just as Perry Stone, Jonathan Cahn, John Hagee, Jentezen Franklin, Benny Hinn, Chris Oyaklihome, Steven Furtick, Joel Osteen and others.1. The Bridegroom is Coming, Are You Ready?2. Delay Does Not Mean Denial!3. The Midnight Cry: Deliverance or Judgment?4. Spiritual Slumber is Dangerous!5. A Global Wake-Up Call is Coming!6. The Time is Short—Be Ready!7. The Rapture Will Happen When Least Expected!

No Trash, Just Truth! - Proverbs 9:10 Ministries
Episode 288 - Discerning those Sweet Little Lies - Faith in Action Part 12

No Trash, Just Truth! - Proverbs 9:10 Ministries

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 24, 2025 40:39


Send us a text"Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies." These aren't just song lyrics, they are the fondest wish of those who have no desire or discernment for Truth.  Why do millions of professing Christians follow false teachers? Why are they so willing and eager to believe their lies when the Truth is right in front of their eyes in Scripture? Why do millions of people listen to Joel Osteen, Steven Furtick, Joyce Myers, and so many others thinking they are getting Biblical teaching? Paul tells us why!Thanks for tuning in! Be sure to check out everything Proverbs 9:10 on our website, www.proverbs910ministries.com! You can also follow us on Facebook, Instagram, Rumble, YouTube, Twitter, Truth Social, and Gettr!

Pastor Michael Fernandes
Growing Your Business with Christian Principles -1 | मसीह सिद्धांतों के साथ अपना व्यवसाय बढ़ाना -१

Pastor Michael Fernandes

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 21, 2025 52:45


In this sermon Pastor Michael emphasizes three key strategies i.e seeking God's guidance through prayer before making business decisions, operating with integrity and honesty while openly advertising these values, and providing exceptional service by adopting a servant's attitude. He further encourages entrepreneurs to apply these Christian principles in growing their business through customer feedback and continuous improvement. Whether starting small or expanding, these Christian principles in business can transform ordinary ventures into extraordinary ones. Growing Your Business with Christian Principles demonstrates that success comes through divine wisdom, honest practices, and service excellence.All these questions were answered just as Warren Buffet, Brian Tracy, Perry Stone, Jonathan Cahn, John Hagee, Jentezen Franklin, Benny Hinn, Chris Oyaklihome, Steven Furtick, Joel Osteen and others.• How should Christian businesspeople seek guidance for their business decisions? • What role does prayer play in making business decisions and hiring staff? • How important is integrity and honesty in business, and how should it be demonstrated? • Why is it beneficial to advertise one's integrity and honesty in business? • How can businesspeople effectively use customer testimonials and personal stories? • What is the importance of providing excellent customer service in business? • How can businesses improve their level of service? • Why is listening to customer feedback crucial for business success? • How can implementing biblical principles lead to business growth? • What practical steps can business people take to align their businesses with God's plans and purposes?

Satan Is My Superhero
Pastors Behaving Badly

Satan Is My Superhero

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 17, 2025 16:37


In this episode we avoid the most violent depraved and abusive things pastors make the headlines for every day, because this is a comedy show. Instead we will concentrate on their light hearted misogyny.Special guest star appearances include Pastor R.C. Sproul Jr, The Impact Team, Ashley Madison, Tennessee pastor, Greg Locke, Witches, National Secular Society, Office of the Scottish Charity Regulator, Pastor Donald Clough, Moray Coast Baptist Church, Megan Manson, MINNESOTA, Journey Church, Kenosha, Wisconsin, Guest Experience Pastor, Gabriel Mills, Douglas Wilson, Christian Nationalist, Sean Moon, Rod of Iron Ministries, Sun Myung Moon, Moonies, Hak Ja Han, Joel Osteen, Babylon,   #666 #SketchComedy #Sketch #Comedy #Sketch Comedy #Atheist #Science #History #Atheism #Antitheist #ConspiracyTheory #Conspiracy #Conspiracies #Sceptical #Scepticism #Mythology #Religion #Devil #Satan #Satanism #Satanist #Skeptic #Debunk #Illuminati #Podcast #funny #sketch #skit #comedy #comedyshow #comedyskits #HeavyMetal #weird #leftist #SatanIsMySuperhero 

Messy Can't Stop Her
They Labelled You Negatively. Now what?

Messy Can't Stop Her

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 13, 2025 18:32


Send JKO a Text MessageMany of us live under negative labels, sometimes even believing them. Drawing inspiration from notable figures this episode challenges you to reject false labels and stand firm in the truth of who you are. If you have you ever been misunderstood, labeled unfairly, and even treated differently because of it, this episode is for you. Nuggets of wisdom in this episodePeople's opinions do not define you.Do not waste your energy trying to change perceptions. Believe and declare what God says about you, not the negative labels of others.Join the Messy Can't Stop Her Sisterhood at https://www.facebook.com/groups/3204395256540448/If you would love to share your story on the #MessyCantStopHer podcast, click here to let me know. Thank you so much for listening. Music Credit: https://indiefy.me/wanted-carter

Pastor Michael Fernandes
How to Seek God in a Crisis? | संकट में परमेश्वर की खोज कैसे करें?

Pastor Michael Fernandes

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 12, 2025 24:55


This sermon outlines four key steps for facing tribulations. Even righteous people experience trials, but knowing how to seek God in a crisis is crucial. The first step in seeking God during a crisis is repentance, going deeper in faith. Second, cultivate God's presence, especially in times of crisis. Third, seek a prophetic word from God when facing a crisis. Finally, pray persistently. The message emphasizes that seeking God in a crisis through prayer yields results, as God responds to those who earnestly seek Him during difficult times.All these questions were answered just as Perry Stone, Jonathan Cahn, John Hagee, Jentezen Franklin, Benny Hinn, Chris Oyaklihome, Steven Furtick, Joel Osteen, Joseph Prince, Joyce Meyer, Paul Dhinakaran, Samuel Patta, Ezekiah Francis, Johnson Varghese, Paul Thangiah, Mohan C Lazarus, TD Jakes and others. 1. Why do righteous people face tribulations? 2. How should a believer respond when facing a crisis? 3. What does tearing clothes and wearing sackcloth symbolize in a spiritual context? 4. Why is it important to go to the house of the Lord during difficult times? 5. What is the significance of seeking a prophetic word during a crisis? 6. How important is prayer when facing challenges? 7. What is the difference between general Bible promises and a personal "Rhema" word? 8. How can repentance deepen one's relationship with God? 9. Why is it crucial to cultivate God's presence, especially during trials? 10. What role does perseverance in prayer play in overcoming crises?

The Miracle Channel Podcast
Take Care of Yourself | Joel Otsteen

The Miracle Channel Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 7, 2025 26:37


In this episode, Joel Osteen shares how making self-care a priority equips you to fully embrace everything God has for you. Sign up for the Miracle Channel eNewsletter for a new ebook and Scripture declarations each month, plus updates on the ministry! Visit our website to discover new resources that will help you grow closer to Jesus every day. Connect with us on social media: YouTube | Instagram | Facebook | TikTok Follow Joel Osteen: Facebook | Instagram | Podcast | YouTube

To Every Man An Answer
To Every Man an Answer 3/3/2025

To Every Man An Answer

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 3, 2025 56:19


8:00 - Daniel 12:11, what time is this talking about? / 16:15 - Was David an illegitimate child as seen in 'House of David'? / 23:42 - Why do ministries not like Joel Osteen or Joyce Meyer? / 35:08 - Praise report for Pastor Parker. / 45:40 - What is the gift of discernment? / 49:10 - James 5:14, who is this healing for? / 52:58 - Isaiah 4:1, what is this about?

40 Days for Life Podcast
Friends, Dirty Dancing and Joel Osteen, Oh My!--PODCAST Season 10, Episode 7

40 Days for Life Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 18, 2025 83:27


Television, music, and movies can tell you a lot about a society…and pop culture hasn't exactly put our society's best foot forward. On this episode of The 40 Days for Life Podcast, we reveal 10 pop culture phenomena that ruined the world.

The Miracle Channel Podcast
Keep Believing For Your Loved Ones | Joel Osteen

The Miracle Channel Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 10, 2025 25:17


In this episode, Joel Osteen shares the best way to help others is to simply love them. Just as God has shown us grace and mercy, He calls us to do the same to those around us. Visit our website to discover new resources that will help you grow closer to Jesus every day. Connect with us on social media: YouTube | Instagram | Facebook | TikTok  Follow Joel Osteen: Facebook | Instagram | Podcast | YouTube

Mark Brown Podcast
How To Discipline Your Mind

Mark Brown Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 3, 2025 53:30


In this powerful sermon, Bishop Mark Brown from Texas shares how to train and discipline your mind for success. The mind is the key to either overcoming life's challenges or settling for less than what God has planned for us. You have to release the thoughts first. Then God removes what has held you back. Afterwards He restores and redeems our life. So we may know what is the good, acceptable, and perfect will of God. As Jesus said, "I have come that you may have life and have it more abundantly." When we embrace God's way of thinking, we open the door to true success and fulfillment. Don't miss this life-transforming message from Bishop Mark Brown—click here to listen now!

The Best of the Bible Answer Man Broadcast
Q&A: The Bride of Christ, Jacob Wrestling With God, and Searching for the Kingdom of God

The Best of the Bible Answer Man Broadcast

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 31, 2025 28:01


On today's Bible Answer Man broadcast (01/31/25), Hank answers the following questions:Does the Bible distinguish between the body of Christ and the bride of Christ, and how does the 144,000 fit into that? Bill - Belleville, KS (0:44)I heard angels were very powerful. Is it true that Jacob wrestled with an angel and Jacob held the angel until the angel blessed him? Michael - Memphis, TN (4:53)I agree with you about Joyce Meyer, TD Jakes, and Joel Osteen; however, I know people who joined their churches and their lives improved. Can you clarify? Michael - Memphis, TN (7:00)What do you mean when you say God is transcendent and breaks time and space? Marvin - Omaha, NE (15:11)How do you search for the kingdom of God? Loretta - Surrey, BC (17:21)What will happen to atheists when Jesus returns? Loretta - Surrey, BC (19:25)I am committed to tithing. I don't have a home church because I'm a truck driver. Where should I send my tithe? Peter - Belgrade, MO (21:02)

Mind-Blowing Happiness Podcast
"Mastering Your Money Mindset" with Life and Business Coach, Tracey Watts Cirino

Mind-Blowing Happiness Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 31, 2025 45:04


Welcome to the Mind-Blowing Happiness Podcast! Each month we speak to inspiring and empowering guests to help you rediscover your authenticity, realign with your values, and walk in your purpose for a juicier, more joyful life.In this episode, Trish talks to Life and Business Coach, Tracey Watts Cirino about her journey from being a hairstylist and salon owner to becoming a business coach and the mindset shifts along the way.Learn more about Tracey Watts Cirino's work:https://traceywattscirino.com/Get your free gift from Tracey here! https://www.beyondcommoncoaching.com/7layersLearn more about Trish Ahjel Roberts' coaching, books, workshops, and keynote talks at https://TrishAhjelRoberts.com. Click "Membership" and register to join our free community.Follow @TrishAhjelRoberts on IG, FB, TikTok, LinkedIn, and YouTubeep60/s5/ep6

MZNOW with Michael Zavala
Best of MZ – 1.28.25

MZNOW with Michael Zavala

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 28, 2025 31:22


Michael changes a tire for the first time (2015). Plus, the show plays another round of Does This Make You Feel Old? (2016) Then later, Joel Osteen calls the show to talk about how he's planning on helping flood victims (2017). Get more show at MZNOW

NLKBM Sound Biblical Doctrine Hour
Discerning The Times and The Seasons [1 Thessalonians 5:1-11]

NLKBM Sound Biblical Doctrine Hour

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 22, 2025 37:02


Matthew 24:42-44, Matthew 24-50-51, Ephesians 5:1, Ephesians 5:6-17, 1 John 2:18-19. 1 John 4:1

The Miracle Channel Podcast
Trusting When You Don't Understand | Joel Otsteen

The Miracle Channel Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 15, 2025 24:55


In this episode, Joel Osteen reminds you that even when life doesn't make sense, God is still at work. Trust that He is orchestrating everything for your ultimate good. Donate here to support outreaches that are sharing the truth about Jesus to Canada! Connect with us on social media: YouTube | Instagram | Facebook | TikTok Follow Joel Osteen: Facebook | Instagram | Podcast | YouTube  

Gospel Spice
How a pernicious false doctrine is invading our churches and theology | with Melissa Dougherty

Gospel Spice

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 14, 2025 49:34


We live in an era dominated by subjective morality and individualized spirituality. How do we provide biblical, God-honoring responses? Stephanie sits down with Christian apologist and popular YouTuber Melissa Dougherty, who utilizes theological insights alongside her deeply personal experiences to dismantle the seductive façade of the New Thought movement. She describes this philosophy as “a stealthy message of encouragement to live your truth, seek happiness, find your identity through sexual freedom, and think your desires into existence. Often with the name of Jesus attached as an endorsement.” GIWEAWAY COMING UP! In our February newsletter, we will give away THREE copies of "Happy Lies" in partnership with Melissa and her publisher, Zondervan. We will also give 3 copies of our next January book interview (airing January 28, episode 376). So make sure to be signed up to our newsletter for a chance to win. Sign up here: https://www.gospelspice.com/signup In her groundbreaking debut, Happy Lies: How a Movement You (Probably) Never Heard Of Shaped Our Self-Obsessed World, Melissa Dougherty, an ex-New Thought follower herself, deconstructs the myths propagated by secular self-empowerment and affirmation movements. She explains how New Thought concepts like toxic affirmation and the “Law of Attraction” intersect with the prosperity gospel. She highlights how New Thought influences are subtly embedded in progressive Christianity and the gender identity crisis, and even how this movement is foundational to the weakened theology used in “Seeker-friendly” churches. Dougherty urges her audience to reflect deeply on these beliefs, encouraging them to discern contemporary culture's pervasive lies and to seek a more authentic understanding of the gospel. With clarity and a touch of compassionate snark, Melissa examines New Thought's appealing yet distorted spirituality. She warns of its pervasive impact on modern theology, emphasizing how the movement's focus on self-authority and personal experience often overshadows the biblical narrative. New Thought ideology subtly infiltrates contemporary Christian thought, presenting a false gospel that masquerades as a more open-minded, tolerant, and loving interpretation of Jesus and the Bible. Melissa recounts her epiphany during a hiatus from seminary, where her extensive readings unveiled a distinction between "New Thought" and "New Age." Despite their overlaps, these movements stand alone in intent and belief structures. Her desire to educate and spark dialogue about New Thought arose from the absence of evangelical discourse on the topic, with only a handful of scholars like Craig Hazen touching on it. Determined to spotlight this under-discussed issue, she writes a book laden with historical contexts, practical definitions, and a respectful yet critical analysis of New Thought within a Christian framework. Melissa describes New Thought as a metaphysical reinterpretation of Christianity, where the Scriptures are sometimes twisted into allegorical tales akin to self-help doctrines. Melissa coined the term "metamistagorical," combining metaphysical, mystical, and allegorical elements, to describe New Thought. She reflects on how figures like Oprah Winfrey and Joel Osteen intermingle Christian identification with mystical attributes to create a semblance of spiritual alignment. Melissa stresses that while New Thought is frequently confused with New Age philosophies, it poses a unique threat to believers: “New Thought ideas will deceive Christians before New Age ideas ever will. […] You've probably adopted some of its teachings, and you don't even realize it.” Unlike New Age's openly mystical practices, New Thought often acts as a metaphysical Christianity, making its influence sneakier and more deceptive. Dougherty concludes with a heartfelt prayer for her readers: “I hope you can't unsee [New Thought]. I hope it stirs something within you, something refusing to be ignored. Now, go tell others. Tell them the Joyful Truth so they don't fall for Happy Lies. ” In Happy Lies, highly regarded Christian apologist and ex-New Ager Melissa Dougherty . . . Tackles the frustrations surrounding the rise of pop spirituality and “self-actualization,” even within Christianity Exposes the deceptions of New Thought—a movement centered on positive thinking, mental healing, self-worship, and spiritual empowerment Counters subjective, “me”-focused platitudes with objective truths that dispel spiritual confusion and bring peace to anxious minds Provides practical methods to uproot the subtle, mystical, and insidious spiritual beliefs that dilute the core message of Christianity Clarifies how to recognize the misleading spiritual practices infiltrating modern Christianity and reject them to embrace the beauty of an authentic Christian life MORE ABOUT “HAPPY LIES” In this groundbreaking book, popular apologist Melissa Dougherty helps us understand how our society got to be so toxically subjective, why endless positivity is inherently destructive, and how we can live with faithful truth and genuine love in these self-obsessed times. Have you ever wondered how we ended up in a world where personal feelings could become the authority for reality? Or why so many of us are on a relentless pursuit for happiness yet somehow feel more exhausted and sadder than ever? You're not alone. Melissa deftly traces the roots of today's social chaos back to a little-known (but very influential) 1800s philosophy known as New Thought. A former follower of its teachings, Melissa provides clarity and compassion mixed with a dash of loving snark as she exposes New Thought's deceptions and its many concerning tendrils within the church and our "self-help" culture. You'll be shocked, grieved, and encouraged as you learn: How you can experience true freedom, hope, and peace instead of the world's counterfeits How an anti-God ideology so easily hijacked Christian-sounding ideas Why thinking positively is entirely different from the unbiblical and burdensome "positive thought" movement Why fake "authenticity" short-circuits real redemption How understanding the New Thought mindset can help us share our faith more effectively Uncover a dangerous ideology that nearly everyone has met, yet few of us can name, in order to better understand our culture and joyfully live faithful to the gospel that is so much better than our world's Happy Lies. MEET MELISSA DOUGHERTY Melissa Dougherty is a Christian apologist best known for her YouTube channel with over 285,000 subscribers and counting. Her videos, which primarily cover New Age and New Thought, have been viewed over 18 million times. Melissa is highly regarded and connected in the apologetics community. She has had numerous influential guests on her YouTube channel and is a frequent guest on the YouTube videos and podcasts of popular thinkers as well. Melissa has a bachelor's degree in religious studies from Southern Evangelical Seminary, where she's also pursuing her master's degree in religious studies. Melissa is married with two daughters and lives in New Mexico. You will find her on her YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@MelissaDougherty  We invite you to check out the first episode of each of our series, and decide which one you will want to start with. Go to gospelspice.com for more, and go especially to gospelspice.com/podcast to enjoy our guests! Interested in our blog? Click here: gospelspice.com/blog Identity in the battle | Ephesians https://www.podcastics.com/episode/74762/link/ Centering on Christ | The Tabernacle experience https://www.podcastics.com/episode/94182/link/ Shades of Red | Against human oppression https://www.podcastics.com/episode/115017/link/ God's glory, our delight  https://www.podcastics.com/episode/126051/link/   Support us on Gospel Spice, PayPal and Venmo!

Oprah’s SuperSoul Conversations
Super Soul Special: Joel Osteen: The Two Powerful Words That Can Change Your Life

Oprah’s SuperSoul Conversations

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 1, 2025 33:49


Original Air Date: August 10, 2017  Learn how to manifest the life you want with two simple words. Pastor Joel Osteen, one of America's most influential religious leaders, discusses personal success, the power behind the words we speak and how each of us can make a difference. Oprah says Pastor Osteen changed the way she speaks power into her life. 

Bowl After Bowl
Episode 360 ★ New Year's Eve

Bowl After Bowl

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 1, 2025 168:23


VALUE FOR VALUE Thank you to the Bowl After Bowl Episode Producers: harvhat, ChadF, Anonymous Fountain User, makeheroism, marykateultra, Boolysteed, Piranesi, HeyCitizen, cbrooklyn, HeyCitizens#1Fan, Dame Black Loca TUNE IN for Bowls With Buds SUNDAY JANUARY 5th ft. hzrd149 and StevenB after No Agenda around 4:20 pm Central Play games at Hyperspaceout Intro/Outro: The Electro Collective - How Far Away ON CHAIN, OFF CHAIN, COCAINE, SHITSTAIN Raspiblitz update featuring AlbyHub Fountain Rewind Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals blocks enforcement of US Corporate Transparency Act TOP THREE 33 Man, 33, threatened to release sarin gas during Joel Osteen's Christmas Eve service, cops say (The Independent) Ukrainian marine and journalist Roman Borshch brought back to Ukraine after 33 months in Russian captivity (Ukrainska Pravda) Mozambique police commander says 33 dead, 1,500 escaped in Maputo prison riot  (CNN) BEHIND THE CURTAIN DEA fails to release annual report with weed arrests, seizure data (NORML) More than 35,000 scientific papers on marijuana published over the past 10 years (NORML) Marc Fogel designated as "wrongfully detained" in Russia, US government says (CBS) Tennessee hemp businesses win $735k settlement over illegal seizures (Tennessee Lookout) METAL MOMENT DuhLaurien brings the DeMu metal band Denim Cobra withSovereigns of the Air. Send jobs karma to RevCyberTrucker and follow along with his shenanigans on the Fediverse at SirRevCyberTrucker@revcybertrucker.com FIRST TIME I EVER… Bowlers called in to discuss the First Time THEY Ever stayed up until midnight on New Year's Eve. Next week, we want to hear about the First Time YOU Ever… FUCK IT, DUDE. LET'S GO BOWLING! Santa Claus marries 14 couples day before Christmas (FOX) Trapped cat rescued from inside Wyoming chimney (UPI) Texas teen allegedly killed rival competitor's show goat in act of jealousy (CBS) 'Stressed' Amazon delivery driver dumps 80 packages in wooded area (FOX) Rare gold coin worth thousands of dollars found in Napa Salvation Army kettle (The Community Voice) Maryland man arrested after pouring whiskey in holy water at Christmas Eve mass (FOX) Scientists develop lickable VR lollipop device allowing you to taste foods through TV (EBNW) Fisherman finds Lego shark lost in ocean in 1997 (UPI) 'Snake' that prompted Massachusetts police response was fake (UPI) Missing dog returns home, rings doorbell nine days later (WDSU) Join us SUNDAY at 4:20 pm for Bowls With Buds ft. StevenB and hzrd149

Crime Alert with Nancy Grace
Crime Alert 1PM 12.31.24| Christmas Eve Chemical Weapon Threat at Joel Osteen's Houston Megachurch

Crime Alert with Nancy Grace

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 31, 2024 5:36 Transcription Available


Joel Osteen's Houston megachurch faces a terrifying threat on Christmas Eve as a man allegedly claims he would release poisonous gas during a packed service. Victims of history’s largest Ponzi scheme are finally recovering nearly all their losses. The U.S. Department of Justice announcing the final payout from the Madoff Victim Fund. Drew Nelson reports.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Successful
DISCIPLINE YOUR MIND - Best Motivational Speech

Successful

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 29, 2024 23:54


Speakers: Steve Jobs, Steve Harvey, Jocko Willink, Oscar Isaac, Kevin Hart, Elon Musk, Will Smith, Tyrese Gibson, Tim Grover, Chadwick Boseman, David Goggins, Denzel Washington, TD Jakes, Oprah Winfrey, Chadd Wright, Will Smith, Eric Thomas, Les Brown, Kobbe Briant, Jeremy Anderson, Prince Ea, Joel Osteen, Les Brown, Denzel Washington, Inky Johnson, Ed Mylett, Grant Cardone, Simon Sinek, John C. Maxwell, Rick Rigsby, Mark Cuban, Kyle Cease, Kunal Nayyar, Joe Dispenza.

Holmberg's Morning Sickness
BEST OF HMS PODCASTS - FRIDAY - December 27, 2024 - Not Buying The Story Of Joel Osteen Finding 600k In His Church's Walls - December 2021

Holmberg's Morning Sickness

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 27, 2024 25:01


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Holmberg's Morning Sickness - Arizona
BEST OF HMS PODCASTS - FRIDAY - December 27, 2024 - Not Buying The Story Of Joel Osteen Finding 600k In His Church's Walls - December 2021

Holmberg's Morning Sickness - Arizona

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 27, 2024 25:01


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The Miracle Channel Podcast
Thank God Before the Promise | Joel Osteen

The Miracle Channel Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 20, 2024 24:44


In this episode, Joel Osteen encourages you to believe that when you pray, God sets miracles in motion. Trust that what He has promised is already on its way! Sign up for our streaming service, Corco+ to stream thousands of titles of entertainment, documentaries, and teaching from your favourite pastors! Connect with us on social media: YouTube | Instagram | Facebook | TikTok Follow Joel Osteen: Facebook | Instagram | Podcast | YouTube

The Good Fight Radio Show
Netflix & Joel Osteen's Mary

The Good Fight Radio Show

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 17, 2024 29:50


On this past broadcast from 12/12/24 we discuss the new Netflix feature film Mary, which has as one of its executive producers, Joel Osteen. In this review we will bring to light some of the issues we see with this film in light of holy scripture. Full Video Version Here: Netflix & Joel Osteen's Mary Follow Good Fight Ministries on: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/goodfightministries Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/goodfightministries Twitter/X: https://www.twitter.com/goodfightmin TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@goodfightministries We're on Rumble! https://rumble.com/GoodFightMinistries Support Us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/goodfight

Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey
Ep 1112 | Joel Osteen's ‘Mary' Movie Gets the Gospel Wrong

Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 10, 2024 67:21


Today, we're discussing the sad news of a shooting at a Christian school in California, where two kindergartners were injured but are in stable condition now, praise God. And in a strange turn, it seems as though the shooter targeted the school as revenge for the violence in Gaza? Of course, the mainstream media largely ignored this story, to absolutely nobody's surprise. We also cover the tragic death of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson and the bizarre social media trend of sexualizing the alleged shooter. Finally, we talk about the awful new "Mary" film on Netflix and its fundamental misunderstandings of the gospel. But perhaps we shouldn't be too surprised by that; after all, prosperity gospel preacher Joel Osteen is the film's executive producer. Watch the latest episode of Relatable At Home, "The Theology of Hospitality" featuring Abby Kuykendall exclusively on BlazeTV: https://get.blazetv.com/allie/ Buy Allie's new book, "Toxic Empathy: How Progressives Exploit Christian Compassion": https://a.co/d/4COtBxy --- Timecodes: (03:59) Two kindergartners shot in CA (24:01) United Healthcare CEO killed  (38:28) Taylor Lorenz celebrates UHC CEO's death (48:33) “Mary” film on Netflix ---   Today's Sponsors: Seven Weeks - Experience the best coffee while supporting the pro-life movement with Seven Weeks Coffee; use code ALLIE at https://www.sevenweekscoffee.com to save up to 25% and help save lives. Good Ranchers — Go to GoodRanchers.com and use code ALLIE at checkout to claim your free give and get $25 off your order. Hillsdale College — Hillsdale College is offering more than 40 free online courses they offer on History, Economics, Politics, Philosophy, and more, including their free course on Charles Dickens' A Christmas Carol, all available for FREE. Go to https://hillsdale.edu/relatable to enroll. Pre-Born — Will you help rescue babies' lives? Donate by calling #250 & say keyword 'BABY' or go to Preborn.com/ALLIE. Jase Medical — Go to Jase.com and enter code “ALLIE” at checkout for a discount on your order. --- Links: Roman's GiveSendGo https://www.givesendgo.com/Romanandarmani?utm_source=sharelink&utm_medium=copy_link&utm_campaign=Romanandarmani Elias's GoFundMe https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-eliass-family-during-this-crisis?attribution_id=sl:f7[…]man_sharesheet_dash&utm_medium=customer&utm_source=copy_link ---   Buy Allie's book, You're Not Enough (& That's Okay): Escaping the Toxic Culture of Self-Love: https://alliebethstuckey.com/book Relatable merchandise – use promo code 'ALLIE10' for a discount: https://shop.blazemedia.com/collections/allie-stuckey Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Move Happy Movement
Love Never Fails by Erin Nicole

Move Happy Movement

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 7, 2024 106:00


Listen, take notes, and join us tonight at Joel Osteen's Lakewood Church in Houston Texas. Parents please preview episode for graphic violent content. Love can be scary sometimes. Fear is not of the Father. 

Comedy Dynamics Daily
D'Lai and Joel Osteen Think This Is A Dangerous Place

Comedy Dynamics Daily

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 3, 2024 5:00


Listen to the full album of Keep Your Distance Vol. 5! YouTube: https://bit.ly/3ymp1to Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/ComedyDynamics Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/ComedyDynamics TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@comedydynamics Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/ComedyDynamics Website: http://www.comedydynamics.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Miracle Channel Podcast
Develop a Healthy Self-Image | Joel Osteen

The Miracle Channel Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 22, 2024 25:21


In this episode, Joel Osteen reveals how God's dream for your life is bigger than you can ever imagine. You'll learn how to get rid of negative mindsets that are holding you back, so you can start living your best life! Donate here to share the truth about Jesus across Canada! Connect with us on social media: YouTube | Instagram | Facebook | TikTok Follow Joel Osteen: Facebook | Instagram | Podcast | YouTube

Transfigured
Sam Ewing - From Oneness Pentecostalism to Reformed

Transfigured

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 9, 2024 89:03


Sam Ewing is the host of  @FromWhomAllBlessingsFlow  . He comes on the channel to tell his story of spiritual growth from growing up Oneness Pentecostal, to delving into the works of Karl Ratzinger (Pope Benedict XVI), his involvement in TLC, to exploring reformed churches in western Michigan. We mention Paul Vanderklay (  @PaulVanderKlay  ) , David Gresham, Lee Strobel, Josh McDowell, Soren Kierkegaard, Dietrich Bonhoeffer, CS Lewis, Joel Osteen, Gavin Ortlund (  @TruthUnites  ), Constantine the Great, John Calvin, Martin Luther, Theodosius the Great, Jacob Faturechi (  @faturechi  ), Jordan Peterson, John Van Donk, Alister McGrath, and many more.

The Miracle Channel Podcast
Don't Believe The Lies | Joel Osteen

The Miracle Channel Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 30, 2024 24:28


In this episode, Joel Osteen shares that no matter how convincing the lies of the enemy are, when you know God's Word and who you are in Him, you won't fall for the lies. Click here to watch Created to Thrive, a fundraising event held on October 17th! Donate here to support outreaches that are sharing the truth about Jesus to Canada! Connect with us on social media: YouTube | Instagram | Facebook | TikTok Follow Joel Osteen: Facebook | Instagram | Podcast | YouTube

Shake the Dust
How Christians Can Help End Homelessness with Kevin Nye

Shake the Dust

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 25, 2024 64:09


Today, Jonathan and Sy speak with author and housing advocate Kevin Nye about the Church and homelessness. We get into:-        The ineffective housing policies Christians often promote-        The bad theology behind those policies-        A run-in Kevin had with institutional resistance to his view that governments shouldn't criminalize homelessness-        How churches can get things right in ministries to unhoused people-        Plus, hear our thoughts on the interview,-        A discussion of how we are resisting the negative ways the election is trying to shape us mentally and spiritually-        And our thoughts on all the discourse around Ta-Nehisi Coates' controversial new bookMentioned in the episode:-        Kevin's article on Christians mistakenly rejecting housing-first policies-        Josiah Haken's book, Neighbors with No Doors-        Kevin's article on Christianity Today's coverage of homelessness-        His article in RNS about a Supreme Court case on unhoused people's constitutional rights-        His book, Grace Can Lead Us Home: A Christian Call to End Homelessness-        His Substack, Who Is My Neighbor?-        Ta-Nehisi Coates' new book, The Message-        Our newsletter with links to a couple of Coates' interviewsCredits-            Follow KTF Press on Facebook, Instagram, and Threads. Subscribe to get our bonus episodes and other benefits at KTFPress.com.-        Follow host Jonathan Walton on Facebook Instagram, and Threads.-        Follow host Sy Hoekstra on Mastodon.-        Our theme song is “Citizens” by Jon Guerra – listen to the whole song on Spotify.-        Our podcast art is by Robyn Burgess – follow her and see her other work on Instagram.-        Editing by Multitude Productions-        Transcripts by Joyce Ambale and Sy Hoekstra.-        Production by Sy Hoekstra and our incredible subscribersTranscript[An acoustic guitar softly plays six notes in a major scale, the first three ascending and the last three descending, with a keyboard pad playing the tonic in the background. Both fade out as Jonathan Walton says “This is a KTF Press podcast.”]Kevin Nye: If you're an average middle class American Christian and you want to become wealthy, have a private jet, a mansion, here's your spiritual steps. Get closer to Jesus, you'll be rewarded with physical wealth. Well, if that's true, the opposite of that would be true, which is that if you are in deep dire poverty, it must mean that you're that much farther from Jesus.[The song “Citizens” by Jon Guerra fades in. Lyrics: “I need to know there is justice/ That it will roll in abundance/ And that you're building a city/ Where we arrive as immigrants/ And you call us citizens/ And you welcome us as children home.” The song fades out.]Intro and HousekeepingJonathan Walton: Welcome to Shake the Dust, seeking Jesus, confronting injustice. I'm Jonathan Walton.Sy Hoekstra: And I am Sy Hoekstra, today is gonna be a great one for you. We have a conversation that we're gonna have before we get into our interview, kind of about the election. A little bit of a catch up, since this is actually going to be our last show before the presidential election, which now that I say it into a microphone, is a little bit scary [laughter]. We're gonna be having a conversation today with author, theologian and housing activist Kevin Nye. I've been looking forward to this one for a long time. Basically, the church is extremely involved in housing policy in America, and we are often going about it the wrong way, and that's often because of a lot of bad theology and some falsehoods that we believe about unhoused people, and so Kevin will help us get deep into that.He's a great resource and a great person to talk about it with, as well as some of the more systemic issues of why we have such an entrenched way of thinking about unhoused people. You'll be able to hear Jonathan and my thoughts about the interview afterwards, and we will get into our segment Which Tab Is Still Open, where we go a little bit deeper into one of the recommendations from our newsletter. This week we're talking all about Ta-Nehisi Coates and his new book, The Message and some of the discussions that have been happening around it. Also, one quick note. My voice might sound a little groggy, because about 12 hours ago, I was at game one of the American League Championship Series [laughter] and I screamed my face off.Is that a wise thing for a podcaster to do before recording? Maybe not, but I trust that you all will forgive me [laughs].Jonathan Walton: Yes, and for the uninitiated, we're talking about baseball [laughs].Sy Hoekstra: Yes, that's a good point. American League Championship Series, that's a baseball series [laughter].Jonathan Walton: But before we get into all that, please friends, remember to go to KTFPress.com and become a paid subscriber to support this show and everything we do here at KTF Press. We've been creating media that centers personal and informed discussions on faith, politics and culture, and that helps you seek Jesus and confront injustice. You've been listening for a while or the first time, you need to know we're resisting the idols of the American church by elevating marginalized voices and taking the entirety of Jesus' gospel more seriously than those who narrow it to sin and salvation. The two of us have [laughs] a lot of experience doing this, have been practicing this in community for a while, and as Maya Angelou would say, we're always practicing Christianity.So if you wanna do that, you could do that with us. We'd love for you to become a paid subscriber. You get all the bonus episodes of this show, access to our monthly subscriber Zoom chats, and you can comment on posts and more. So again, go to KTFPress.com to join us and become a paid subscriber.Sy Hoekstra: A couple of quick announcements before we get into everything. In two weeks there will not be an episode. That's just a couple days after the election. We're gonna let things settle a little bit.Jonathan Walton: Hopefully so.Sy Hoekstra: I mean, hopefully settle a little bit before [laughter] we have our sort of clean, edited podcast discussion about the election. However, we are going to do something a little bit different the day after the election. So that'll be Wednesday, November 6th at 1 pm. We are going to be having a Substack live conversation. So that means basically, if you have the Substack app, you will be able to watch us just have a live conversation about the election, what happened the night before, what we're thinking, how we can move forward faithfully now that the voting is done, and all of the potential chaos that comes after that. If you don't have the app, you can download it on the App Store or the Google Play Store. Anybody who's on our email list will get an email notification or a push notification from the app when we start.So if you're not on our email list, go to KTFPress.com and sign up. Even just the free email list, you'll get that notification. The email will have a link to download the app if you don't have it. So Substack live Wednesday, November 6th, at 1 pm to talk about the election. A little bit more raw, unfiltered, that sort of thing [laughter]. And then we'll have a finale episode, we'll announce the date later once we have that set. You'll be able to comment in the chat of the Substack live, so you can put your comments and your questions there. So come prepared to dialog a little bit. We're excited to try this new feature that Substack has rolled out. Also our next Zoom chat for subscribers will be this upcoming Tuesday, October 29th at 1 pm.So if you want to join in on that, please become a paid subscriber. If you already are a paid subscriber, then the link to register for that is in your email already. Go back to your emails from us and check for it, submit your questions. We have had some really great conversations at the four or five of these that we've done so far, and we look forward to another one this Tuesday.How Has the Election Been Shaping Us? And How Are We Resisting?Sy Hoekstra: Alright Jonathan, before the interview, we're gonna start off with an election question that will kind of let us give some of our final thoughts going into actual voting day. This is a question that you came up with, and I like it a lot, actually. Jonathan, how has this election been trying to shape you and how have you been resisting it?Jonathan Walton: Yeah. I think just hanging out in this space of formation, like we're impacted by things around us, and it's literally making us into new people or different kinds of people. I have an injury in my hip, and it's like, I ran marathons and did lots of sports and work, and so my hip is shaped differently because of the pressure that I put on it.Our Political Culture Tries to Instill Fear, but Jesus Doesn'tJonathan Walton: And so I think that culture is trying to shape me into an anxious, fearful person, because violent crime can be down in the United States, but my fears about my daughter getting older and going to the train, I'm terrified.Sy Hoekstra: Really?Jonathan Walton: Oh yeah. It's terrible. It's terrible.Sy Hoekstra: Interesting.Jonathan Walton: People are like, “Oh yeah, my kid walked to the train,” I'm like, clutch my pearls.Sy Hoekstra: [laughs] Oh, you're one of those New York City parents.Jonathan Walton: Yeah. And some of its familiarity, I never did that. That just wasn't my reality. I think it's more that than all of the fears that people have. It's just unfamiliar to me. And so I think that the Democrats would love for me to fear the apocalypse, and the Republicans would love for me to fear the apocalypse [laughter].Sy Hoekstra: Different apocalypses.Jonathan Walton: Yeah, different apocalyptic visions for the state of this country and the world. And that is a very effective fundraising tactic. It's a very effective way to get people out to vote, because having people be motivated by fear rather than love is better for the prince of the power of the air. It's better for the wills within us that are not submitted to God and trusting him for our well being and the well being of those around us, and leaning into that. And so I think that I want to reject the gospel of self reliance. I want to reject the gospel that I have to control everything and hold it all close and accumulate more and protect that which I accumulate, like all that I got. I just have to say no to that, because I don't wanna be afraid all the time and then make all the people around me more afraid. I don't think Jesus made people afraid.He made demons afraid, but off the top of my head, I cannot… like Judas wasn't even afraid of Jesus. The fear and reverence of the Lord and all of those kinds of things where the angels and the Father say, “Don't be afraid,” Jesus speaking to people did not instill fear in them. I don't think I need to be motivated or driven or attracted or tempted towards fear about anything.Sy Hoekstra: I mean, there are people who seemed kind of afraid of him, but they were all powerful and largely oppressive people.Jonathan Walton: [laughs] That's true.Sy Hoekstra: Herod seemed pretty afraid of Jesus [laughs].Jonathan Walton: Herod was terrified. Yeah, that's true. I don't think that Jesus' goal in conversation dialog was for someone to be afraid.Sy Hoekstra: Yeah, that's correct.Jonathan Walton: And then for them to be compelled to follow him because they were scared. Like that… it is literally the opposite of a fire and brimstone call to faith. It's not congruent with the Christ of scripture.Resisting Cynicism by Choosing Where to Place Our HopeJonathan Walton: So what about you? How do you think our current political [laughs] realities, would love for you to be in the world?Sy Hoekstra: It feels like they would love for me to be a cynic. I don't know, someone who's just a real downer. Because I would say, if you'd asked this eight years ago, I would have said they would want me to be depressed. Because at that time, Trump just felt so dark and foreboding in a way that was deeply sad to me. Not exactly scary, but just really, really depressing. I think now I'm actually thinking more about the Democrats when I say that, because as we are recording, the Biden administration has said some very tentative things about a maybe possible weapons embargo if some undefined humanitarian crisis in Gaza is not vetted in the next month. So we'll see how that works out over the next week and a half until this publishes.But basically, up until now, it's kind of been you've got to toe the party line. You got to be effectively totally pro Israel to be in line with the Biden administration and also with the Harris campaign. That could lose them Michigan maybe or whatever, but ultimately coming out for a ceasefire or something else they must have done the calculus is gonna lose them more.Jonathan Walton: Right.Sy Hoekstra: The reason that that makes me cynical is just so much in politics, it's just about that. It's just about, are you gonna get elected or not? I think Jonathan, and I've been convinced for a long time, it is pretty impossible to be a politician and follow Jesus, because if you follow Jesus you're not gonna be a politician anymore [laughter]. Because the whole point is you got to get reelected, and you got to do whatever it takes to do that. You've got to change your mind on issues, you've got to spend money, you've got to be a hypocrite. Doesn't matter, you've just got to get reelected. There are probably certain scenarios, like certain places that you could be elected and have integrity for smaller offices than the President [laughs], that would lead me to some amount of cynicism about the whole system and despair if my faith was in the system. If I was looking to who the next president is to determine my hope for the world.And it's kind of a cheesy Christian thing maybe to say, but my hope is in Jesus. But I think it's actually, even honestly, if your hope was not in Jesus, if it was just in something other than what's happening in our current politics, that's a very powerful thing. You know what I mean? It is a very powerful thing to genuinely have your emotional steadiness in something other than whatever's happening in politics. And for me, that's Jesus. But you know, so that's where I'm trying to sit, and that's why I'm trying to resist the way that the election is trying to make me a cynic.Can Christians Be Politicians Faithfully?Sy Hoekstra: You keep taking breaths like you have something that you wanna say immediately [laughs] [unclear 00:11:14].Jonathan Walton: I'm thinking, if I heard you right you were like, you believe it may be impossible to follow Jesus and be a politician?Sy Hoekstra: Yeah.Jonathan Walton: And I was thinking about that because I think it's like, we would have to define follower of Jesus and define politician.Sy Hoekstra: Sure.Jonathan Walton: But it's interesting to me that it is impossible to be a servant of empire and follow Jesus. Like it's possible, because Jesus calls them out to be a non-Christian religious person. It is possible for Cornelius to be in the military and be faithful to God.Sy Hoekstra: I see what you're saying.Jonathan Walton: Yeah, but what you're getting at is the incoherence of that reality that we try to assert. So for example, I think it's possible to be a Christian politician. It is impossible to make politics Christian.Sy Hoekstra: Yeah. And if you want to be a Christian politician, you're gonna have to recognize that your job is going to be constantly, ceaselessly trying to pull you away from Jesus [laughs].Jonathan Walton: Yeah. It is impossible to follow Jesus and be a politician, if a politician is what you are trying to be.Sy Hoekstra: Yeah. I got you.Jonathan Walton: It is possible to follow Jesus and hold elected office, you know what I mean? But there are some people whose complete identity, which is what you're talking about, “I'm only here to get reelected. I wanna accumulate power, I wanna do that,” like it is impossible to be a politician.Sy Hoekstra: I think it's a little bit harder than that though, because it's not just about your identity if you're a politician, your job is to get reelected. That's what everyone is looking for you to do. That's what your party's looking for you to do, all people who work for you, obviously, that's what they're looking for you to do [laughter].Jonathan Walton: Right.Sy Hoekstra: Literally, if you don't get reelected, you can't do the job anymore. So it's like it is an integral part of the job description itself. It's not even just an issue of where your identity lies. You know what I mean?Jonathan Walton: That's true. Listen, if you're listening to this, I would love to hear what you think.Sy Hoekstra: Yeah.Jonathan Walton: Love to hear what you think. Unfortunately, the philosophical argument, the dominoes could start to fall around lots of professions. It's interesting. We're probably gonna talk about this as a subscriber chat now. So there we go [laughter].Sy Hoekstra: There we go.Jonathan Walton: Cool.Sy Hoekstra: Cool. Thanks for that little brief discussion as we go into the voting booths, which is in like a week and a half from when you're listening to this, if it's the day it comes out. And as we continue to behave politically after the voting happens, which I hope everyone listening to this show is doing [laughs], let's try and be shrewd. Innocent and shrewd, right?Jonathan Walton: Yes.Sy Hoekstra: That's what Jesus wants us to be.Jonathan Walton: [laughs].Sy Hoekstra: And let's continue to think hard about that. I appreciate that discussion. Let's try to find a way to continue it. We are gonna get into our interview now before we come back and talk about our thoughts on the interview and some stuff about Ta-Nehisi Coates [laughter] in Which Tab Is Still Open.Interview with Kevin NyeOur guest today, as I said, is Kevin Nye. He is a writer and advocate working to end homelessness through engaging best practices. He has written on the intersections of homelessness and faith for Religion News Service, Sojourners, Red Letter Christians and more. He has presented at national conferences on the topic of homelessness. His first book released in August of 2022 and it was called Grace Can Lead Us Home: A Christian Call to End Homelessness. Kevin currently lives with his wife and son in Minneapolis, Minnesota, where he works as the housing director for an organization addressing youth homelessness.Jonathan Walton: Let's get into our interview.[The intro piano music from “Citizens” by Jon Guerra plays briefly and then fades out.]Sy Hoekstra: Kevin Nye, thank you so much for joining us on Shake the Dust today.Kevin Nye: Absolutely. It's a pleasure to be here.The Effective ‘Housing-First' Policies Evangelicals Often RejectSy Hoekstra: You and I met about a year ago at the Evolving Faith conference, just after you had published what I thought was a really great article for Sojourners about kind of the difference between treatment-first housing policy and housing-first housing policy, which can, they can sound a bit wonky to people. But you talked about how it's a really important distinction, and how a lot of times Christians are making the wrong choice in choosing the treatment-first policy and favoring those types of policies. And so because I think this distinction will actually help us get at a lot of underlying kind of spiritual and theological issues when it comes to housing policy, can you tell us what these two different approaches are and why you think a lot of conservative Christians are picking the wrong one?Kevin Nye: Absolutely. So the treatment-first methodology, it's kind of the one that we've been using for almost 100 years in response to homelessness, but it also sort of infects a lot of our thinking about many different things. And it essentially says that if you are in poverty, if you are in homelessness, that you have to sort of prove your worthiness of getting out of that. So if you are experiencing homelessness, we know that ultimately the destination that you're hoping for is to be in housing of some kind, an apartment, a house, what have you. But that in order to get there under the treatment-first model, it suggests that you have to sort of check a bunch of boxes. And those boxes have looked different, according to the program, and according to the time that it's been implemented, but they usually include some level of sobriety.So if drugs or alcohol are part of your life, they have to stop. If you struggle with your mental health or even your physical health, that you have to ascribe to a particular treatment plan, and demonstrate your willingness to do that and to stay on it to then achieve whatever objective is set for you by some institution, which often is a shelter or a government program or a Christian institution, like a Rescue Mission. And then depending on which avenue you're going or which institution is involved, that can include a lot of other more arbitrary types of rules, like that if you demonstrate your worthiness or your dedication by applying for a certain number of jobs per week, or attaining employment first, or attending Bible study every day at the Rescue Mission. There's sort of all of these expectations to demonstrate that you are sort of good enough, worthy enough to invest in with this long-term opportunity.That is opposed to the housing-first idea, which we've known and understood for closer to like 30 years and have been studying and practicing ever since, which suggests that rather than do or accomplish all of these things to prove that you deserve housing, housing being sort of the end destination, we lead with the housing because we recognize that housing is the stabilizing force that makes so many of those other things possible. And then we don't just plop you in housing and say, “Good luck,” but we put you in housing and then ask you, “Okay, now, what do you wanna work on?” Now that you have this baseline of stability, of safety, a literal home base, what's next? Let's tackle it together. Now that you can get a good night's sleep. Now that you can charge your phone in an outlet overnight.Now that your documents and your medications are safe. Now that you can buy food to store it in a fridge, rather than go to whatever dinner is available for free for you across the community, or save up enough to get fast food just to fill your belly. All these things that we sort of take for granted that a home with four walls, a roof and a door provide for us are those things that we actually need to be successful. One's ability to stabilize a physical or mental health condition is really difficult if you don't have a safe place to go every night, like where you can store your medication safely, where you can eat a healthy diet, where you can have a normal routine. And even something like drug use and alcohol use, we understand are things that are responsive to a chaotic situation.That if you are living on the streets every day, you are more likely to seek out the soothing effects [laughs] of alcohol, the numbing effects of substances, or the energizing effects of other types of substances, in order to try to get things done that you need to get done. But that even folks who are deep in the throes of those kind of problematic relationships with drugs and alcohol do so much better with housing-first, rather than saying, “Hey, you need to fix all of these things before we even help you feel safe and stable.”Sy Hoekstra: It also strikes me all three of our mutual friend, Josiah Haken, wrote a book where he talked about kind of myths about homelessness. And one of them was the myth that, basically, homeless people are dangerous.Kevin Nye: Yeah.Sy Hoekstra: And he was like, the real reality of being homeless is that you're actually in more danger than everybody else constantly. You are the one who's the most likely to be the victim who's most likely gonna be robbed, have your stuff taken. And that stuff that's on you, like you said, is all your documents [laughs], it's all of your medicines that you need to remain in your sound mind or whatever. And just having a place to not be worried about that as much feels like an enormous burden lifted off people too, in addition to all the other enormous burdens lifted off people that you just mentioned.Kevin Nye: Absolutely. Yeah, Josiah is great, and his book is really good, too. Neighbors with No Doors, for your listeners to go check that one out.Sy Hoekstra: Yeah, yeah for sure.Christianity Today, and Why the Church Doesn't Address Homelessness WellJonathan Walton: This is something that I'm very passionate about. Like Sy said, I've known Josiah for years. I spent a good part of my formative young adult years on the streets with friends. And so a few months ago, you wrote a post on your Substack about an article of yours that Christianity Today was like, “Yep,” and then said, “No.”Kevin Nye: Yeah.Jonathan Walton: [laughs] So can you tell us about that story, why you decided to go public, and the difference between knowledge and opposition. Because I think some people that are listening to this might think, “Oh, well, if we just know better, then we'll do better.” And I don't think that's true. So could you tell us about your journey writing, then having it get rejected, and then that difference between knowledge about something and opposition. Could you break that down?Kevin Nye: Sure. Yeah, the Christianity Today thing was interesting. When you're a writer on a particular topic and that topic sort of starts to get national attention, which is what was happening, at the time there was a Supreme Court case that was gonna be heard, since then has been heard, Johnson versus Grants Pass, Oregon.Sy Hoekstra: Right.Kevin Nye: We could talk forever about that, but essentially, whether or not municipalities have the right to criminalize homelessness was sort of being decided at the national level. And I wanted to write something about the faith perspective of that. And I have my own Substack and outlets where I can do that, but I thought that this being such a national issue, and my take on it wasn't particularly edgy or controversial. It was just, “Hey, maybe we shouldn't criminalize poor people for being poor.” [laughter]Jonathan Walton: Maybe. Let's try that.Kevin Nye: I thought that that was something… and actually part of what I was writing was not, “Hey, this is what I think.” It was, “Hey, this is what a bunch of churches and faith groups are thinking.” And part of my article was actually about how churches were rallying to support unhoused people in this case and writing into the Supreme Court. So it was almost like, it's kind of pro-church [laughs]. And so I thought given all of that, this would be a pretty good pitch for Christianity Today who is a more conservative publication who I hadn't published with before. I'm more likely to publish with Sojourners, which is less obviously conservative or Religious News Service, which is a little bit more like they're reporting news about religion, not religious news.Sy Hoekstra: Yeah.Kevin Nye: But I thought this was the right pitch for CT. They had expressed interest in me writing for them before, and it was just about finding the right thing, and I thought this one was it. So I sent it in, and I got a really good response. They agreed. They said, “Hey, this seems like the one. We definitely wanna work with you on it.” And I was pretty upfront from the beginning about what my stance on it was. And they seemed willing along the way, and even a couple times in the process, I just said, “Hey, I just wanna be super clear, this is where I'm going with it. It may be a little different than what you guys are used to publishing on homelessness,” and I just kept getting thumbs up along the way until it was time, essentially to publish it.I had sent it in, it had gotten the final edit, and they had said, “Hey, we're probably gonna publish this on Friday.” And then two hours later, I got an email that just said, “Hey, hold that thought. Just came from a meeting. We might be going in a different direction.” And then I didn't hear anything for 24 hours, and then it was, “Yeah, we are going in a different direction for our coverage.”Jonathan Walton: But did they pay you for it?Kevin Nye: They did. They paid me a kill fee, which…Sy Hoekstra: Which is not the whole thing.Kevin Nye: Yeah. And part of me was like, I wanna be like, “I don't want your money,” [laughter] but then I was like, “I'll take your money and I'll use it for something good.”Jonathan Walton: I can deposit this. Yeah. Right [laughs].Kevin Nye: Yeah. And so I ended up just then sending it to Religion News Service, and said, “Hey, sorry that this is coming late.” Because the deadline was that the Supreme Court was hearing it that week, and so it was sort of a timely piece. And I sent it over there, said, “Hey, I'm sorry this is such short notice, but do you guys want this because another publication didn't want it?” And they ran it. I sat on that for a while deciding whether or not I wanted to say anything about it, because I never want to, I don't wanna stir up trouble just for the sake of trouble. And I don't wanna trash this publication for no reason, even though they've given us some pretty good reasons over the years.Sy Hoekstra: [laughs].Kevin Nye: But I was like, I don't wanna pick a fight just to pick a fight. And part of that is a professional consideration. As a writer I have the potential to burn a bridge there. So I just sort of said, I'm gonna wait to see what they meant by our coverage is going in a different direction, because it does imply they're gonna publish something, right?Sy Hoekstra: Right.Kevin Nye: And for all I know it could have meant, “Hey, we actually got someone really, super, more qualified than you to write this.” Or, “One of the lawyers who's on the case wanted to write something for us.” And I'd be like, “Well, yeah, of course.” I suspected that wasn't what it meant, [laughs] but I'm gonna withhold judgment, at least publicly for a bit [laughter]. And so I sat on it, and then a couple months later, the Supreme Court ruling came out. So it was supposed to publish when they heard it, and then they had a couple months to deliver a ruling. They delivered a ruling, and Christianity Today had still not published anything, not even about homelessness, period. And so then I thought, “Okay, the ruling just happened.” It also came out the same day that they ruled on presidential immunity.Jonathan Walton: Yes.Kevin Nye: So it was like, okay, there's a lot of competing things to talk about right now so I'm gonna give them a week, two weeks, to see if they put out anything. And then when they didn't, that's when I sort of decided that I wanted to write about not being published, and again, not personal, but write about the fact that nothing was being published about this when it is such a significant ruling about what I would argue is one of the top five most significant issues on everybody's mind, which is housing and homelessness. And sort of how that feeds an ignorance and a lack of Christian conversation about this topic. And again, it wasn't, “How dare they not publish me.” It was sort of like, “How could they not publish anything, especially when they had something to publish, and they chose not to?”Jonathan Walton: Why do you think they killed it and didn't write about it?Kevin Nye: My guess is that ultimately, there is a pretty powerful voice that is Christian and institutionalized in the form of the Gospel Rescue Mission. And those who have supported it have worked in it, worked around it, worked adjacent to it, that does genuinely believe that we should make homelessness harder so that A, either people stop choosing it, which is ludicrous, but more so B, will drive people into institutional settings, like shelters, like Christian shelters, where evangelism can happen, sort of Christian teaching can happen. And the reason I believe that is because there was only one faith perspective that wrote into the Supreme Court in favor of criminalizing, and it was the Grants Pass Gospel Rescue Mission.Criminalizing Homelessness to Force People into Religious SheltersAnd they actually wrote in that publicly available letter that they felt that since it had been ruled at a lower court that they couldn't criminalize, the numbers at their shelter had been declining. Now they failed to mention that this happened at the same time as COVID, and might be another reason that people didn't wanna come into a public shared space type of shelter setting, but that because the city could not use criminalization to compel people into the Rescue Mission, that people were not getting services that they needed. But if you dig into the Gospel Rescue Mission over there, which I did extensively, you learn that they have some of the most egregious rules and expectations of people, and have a very poor reputation among the unhoused community there for how they treat people.And so what then truly is at stake here is in a town like Grants Pass where the only shelter is a Gospel Rescue Mission, can the government criminalize homelessness and force people into a religious setting where they are being taught against their will Christianity in the form of chapel and required Bible studies on a daily basis? And now I don't think Christianity Today thinks that we should institutionalize all unhoused people and scream the Bible at them, but I think that Christianity Today is reluctant to anger the voices who are pretty large and hold a lot of power that defend that institution.The theology behind Misguided Christian Housing ProgramsSy Hoekstra: Can we get a little bit at what some of the reasons are underneath all this stuff? I mean, aside from the [laughs] opportunity to evangelize, forcing people into your program to evangelize them, because that's just your whole end goal as a Christian or whatever, is to convert people, and so the means by which you convert them doesn't matter. Which is, I'm putting it that way because I'm just kind of processing that, because it's gross. It's in line with manipulating people into Christianity by scaring them about hell.Kevin Nye: Yeah.Sy Hoekstra: Like why not just scare them about prison or anything else?Jonathan Walton: Yeah, right. I'll put you outside.Sy Hoekstra: Yeah, exactly [laughs]. But I wonder what other… you've dug into the theology of this, you've dug into people's reasoning for supporting this kind of programming and the powers that be supporting this kind of programming. What are the other motivations, theological reasons that you see behind treating vulnerable people this way?Kevin Nye: Yeah. Well, I mean, the way I framed it obviously, is sort of the most insidious version of it, but I think that most folks who… I mean, especially your frontline workers in a place that, genuinely believe that Jesus is the solution to homelessness. That people who are experiencing homelessness are doing so because of a personal failure, a moral failure, and that if they commit their lives to Jesus, that that will allow them to leave behind the life that led them into the situation that they're in and propel them towards a new life. That's the nice way of understanding what's happening, which I genuinely believe a lot of folks in these settings are operating it from that more positive version.Even what you described as scaring people with hell to get people to accept Jesus, I know people that are in my family who they genuinely believe that the people that they love and care about are gonna go to hell if they don't. And there is this motivation that, again, because they have this belief that is toxic, that the way… if you are committed to that belief, to then address this problem can be very problematic. My experience by and large, has not been that people who experience homelessness are not religious or are not even committed Christians.Sy Hoekstra: Seriously.Jonathan Walton: Exactly.Sy Hoekstra: Right.Kevin Nye: And on top of that, an informed understanding of what causes homelessness is not moral personal failure, but very measurable and understandable social issues like the cost of housing, like our mental health systems, like the stagnation of wages, so that housing is more expensive and people aren't making any more money. So one plus one equals two, fewer people can access housing.Sy Hoekstra: Yeah, there's so much to say there, but things I wanna highlight, you're basically saying that Jesus is the answer to homelessness, allows you to avoid asking systemic questions, allows you to avoid talking about systems that need to change. It also kind of turns Jesus into something that he never said that he was. He never said he was the answer to homelessness. He also never even said, “If you state a belief in me and read the Bible and pray and x, y and z, then you will automatically start making significantly better moral decisions.”Kevin Nye: Yeah.Sy Hoekstra: That's not even true about Jesus. He also didn't say, “If you believe in me, all of a sudden you won't be addicted to meth,” or whatever. You know what I mean?Kevin Nye: Right.Sy Hoekstra: None of this is true. There's a real powerful underlying fundamentalist current in that perspective. In a just don't worry about the politics, don't worry about basically any real earthly concerns, just Jesus, everything else will fall in line after that.Kevin Nye: Yeah, and it's, I think a lot about how it's just an extension of prosperity gospel. That it's the same idea that says if you're an average middle-class American Christian, and you want to become wealthy, have a private jet, a mansion, here's your spiritual steps. Get closer to Jesus, you'll be rewarded with physical wealth. Well, if that's true, the opposite of that would be true, which is that if you are in deep, dire poverty, it must mean that you're that much farther from Jesus.Sy Hoekstra: Yeah.Jonathan Walton: Right.Kevin Nye: And I think even people who would reject the Joel Osteen prosperity rich end of that gospel, still believe a lot of that same stuff, but on the poverty end.Jonathan Walton: Yeah.Sy Hoekstra: Yeah. That's so true.Jonathan Walton: The connection for me happens, is yes, the prosperity gospel, but then also the plantation spirituality.Kevin Nye: Yeah.Jonathan Walton: The people who are rich are obedient, the people who are poor are disobedient. And what disobedient people actually need is supervision and discipline.Sy Hoekstra: Yeah.Kevin Nye: Yes.Jonathan Walton: And so the housing-first, the entire mentality that you are flipping over is saying you don't actually have to be good or better or on the right side of things to receive, which is the opposite of the plantation, which is the opposite of Capitalism, which is the opposite…Sy Hoekstra: You might even call it grace, Jonathan [laughter].Jonathan Walton: I mean, I was gonna get to the title of the book at the end, but like…[laughs].Kevin Nye: And not even just to receive, but to receive in a way that allows freedom and choice. Because that is one of the biggest differences between these two models. And I think, a lot of why it's we need to hold housing back until we've programmed into a person what they should be acting like and being like then we give them housing, because once they have housing, they're free to make their own decisions, and we're afraid of what that looks like. Versus that housing-first model that, baked into housing-first is choice and options and autonomy. And even in the process of getting into housing, it's not just, “Hey, here's the apartment that you get,” although that is how a lot of systems end up working, just because of scarcity of housing.But in a good housing-first model it's, “Here's all the types of housing that are accessible to you. These ones are subsidized this way, these ones are this way. This is in this part of town, this one is connected to these types of services. What works for you?” And then after that choice comes more choices like, “Hey, what's the thing that you wanna work on first?” Which is the treatment-first model says, you got to get sober before you do anything else. And that is just not true. I think that's a big piece of it too, is how much the treatment-first system allows us, whether we're government or religious, to exert social control over people.Jonathan Walton: All that to say, there are people and systems and structures, institutions in place that keep this ideology enforced.Kevin Nye: Yes.Jonathan Walton: It is moving forward. Something, harking back, we had an interview with Lisa Sharon Harper, who I believe you know.Kevin Nye: Yeah.Jonathan Walton: And one of the things she said was, the hope is in the work. As we do the work, we will find hope, because we're close and we see progress, we build relationships, that's the fruit of being in the work. And so as people are, what we were just talking about, these institutions, these individuals are reluctant to this evidence-based policy actually being rolled out in the church, where do you see good work being done inside and outside of the church, where you can find that intersection of hope and work?Kevin Nye: Yeah.Jonathan Walton: As people do start to say yes to Matthew 25.Kevin Nye: I mean, I think that my… so my book came out two years ago now, and when I wrote it, I sort of hoped that it would be revelatory for people. That a lot of Christians would be like, “Oh, this is new information. This is a new way of looking at it.” And there was a good amount of that. But what really surprised me, and gave me a lot of hope, was how much response I got that said, “Yes, this is what we over here already believe, and we've been doing.”Sy Hoekstra: Oh.Kevin Nye: Sometimes like, “We didn't know it had a name. We didn't know there were other people thinking and talking about this.” And so in those two years, as I've gotten to travel around and do some speaking and stuff like that, I've gotten to see and hear about a bunch of programs, churches that are merging this sort of faith-based and evidence-based. And, yeah, it's just been, it's filled me with a ton of hope. And where they're, I think the next growth is for them to get organized together, because right now the Rescue Missions are organized. They have a centralized network, and so they can speak together with one voice in opposition to these best practices.But there's not sort of a focal point or a voice box for all these other ones that are doing, like you said, the hope is in the work, they're doing it in their small, local ways, but don't have a collective together to speak to each other and on behalf of one another and on behalf of the things that they believe in. And so that's part of the project I'm working on right now. My next book project is to sort of give voice and awareness to a lot of these ideas that are being implemented in different places that people don't really know about outside of those local communities, and sort of name what is working and why, and hopefully inspire responses from faith communities and individuals that align with best practices and align with their faith.Jonathan Walton: One, I wanna dive into your book, because I actually haven't read it yet, so I'm looking forward to grabbing it. And I'm glad to hear that you have another one. What would you say is the bridge from the one you wrote to this one?Kevin Nye: A lot of different things, but to make it very black and white, it's the first book is about how to think differently about homelessness, and this book is about how you actually go and do that, and how those change beliefs get worked out in things as nitty gritty as program design.Jonathan Walton: Yes.Sy Hoekstra: Totally.Kevin Nye: Without being boring, hopefully.Sy Hoekstra: [laughs] That's great. Where can people find you or your work?Kevin Nye: So I'm on most social media. I'm not too hard to find there, but my handle is a little different everywhere you go. The best sort of landing spot is my Substack. So that's Kevinmnye.substack.com. And so any new thing that I'm writing, whether it's there or I publish with Sojourners, or I'm speaking somewhere, I always put that out in my newsletter there. And hopefully as some more news comes out about this new book project, I'll be able to make announcements about that there.Sy Hoekstra: That's awesome. We will definitely link to that. Kevin Nye, we so much appreciate having you on the show today. Thank you so much for being here.Kevin Nye: Yeah, absolutely. It was a blast.[The intro piano music from “Citizens” by Jon Guerra plays briefly and then fades out.]Our Thoughts after the InterviewSy Hoekstra: Jonathan, I loved that conversation. Tell me what you are thinking about coming out of it.The Church Is Actively Contributing to the Problem of HomelessnessJonathan Walton: There's a lot. I think that the thing that frustrates me the most, and I think this is true about a lot of just injustices that I'm thinking about right now, is that the church is actively contributing to the continuing…Sy Hoekstra: To the problem.Jonathan Walton: Yeah. When we're literally supposed to not do that. Like, the whole Grants Pass amicus brief, I'm just like, “Really guys?” That takes energy. That takes effort, that takes meetings, that takes emails, takes drafts. It takes time to do that. You can't just like, “Hey, I'm gonna write an amicus brief,” and just submit it. There's an effort that goes into sustaining injustice, and that to me I think is concerning and exhausting.Societies with Colonial Roots Won't Provide “Unearned” BenefitsJonathan Walton: The other thing I think about is, I mean, I would say White American folk religion, talk about a plantation mentality, but it even stretches into addressing injustice. I was having a conversation with Maya yesterday.Sy Hoekstra: Your seven-year-old.Jonathan Walton: Yes. No, she's eight. She's eight.Sy Hoekstra: Oh. I forgot.Jonathan Walton: Yeah. But we were talking about the difference between fairness and justice. And she said, “Baba, is it better to give someone what they need or give someone what they ask for?”Sy Hoekstra: You have the deepest child [laughter].Jonathan Walton: She literally asked me that. And I was like, “Ooh.”Sy Hoekstra: Does Maya wanna be on this podcast [laughter]?Jonathan Walton: No, but she was reading a book. I have a discussion or something at school, and this is what she asked me. So I started talking about the vineyard. I said, “Maya, who gets to decide what is needed? Who are the different people?” And she goes, “Well, someone outside is deciding.” And I was like, “Oh, okay, well, then let's go read the story about Jesus in the vineyard.” Like the kingdom of God is like a vineyard.Sy Hoekstra: You're talking about the parable where he pays all the workers the same, no matter how long they worked, and the ones who worked the longest get angry [laughs].Jonathan Walton: Exactly. And then we went and read… she had only read the first half of the parable about the two sons. She hadn't read the second half. So then we talked about the similarities between the father who runs out to meet the prodigal son, and then how the person in charge gets to decide how grace or resources or whatever are distributed. And I was like, it would seem to me that that person gets to define what is just and what is fair, and what is equitable. And we didn't get to talk about power, but that was ultimately what I was thinking about.Sy Hoekstra: Yeah.Jonathan Walton: And I don't know how to explain it to an eight year old. But she said everybody should get what they need. But she's like, “How can we do that?” And I said, “Maya, that right there is the fundamental question that we try to put together.” There are people who think and believe and will work tooth and nail for people not to get what they don't think they deserve. “I don't think that person deserves a home. I don't think that person deserves to live where I live. I think they should, quote- unquote, wait in line,” if we're talking about immigration. “I played by the rules. Don't pay off that debt. I worked at a job…” We're constantly doing that. There's a Hawaiian activist, her name escapes me right now, but she said, “You got to remember you live in a colony.”Like the United States is a colony. That's what it is. Another Peruvian scholar is like, coloniality is a real thing. And so in a colony, you cannot have people get things that they quote- unquote, didn't work for. The kingdom of God should literally break the brains of imperialists, which it does [laughs], because it just, it blows up everything. So all that to say, I hope, and we'll pray and will work in the influence that I have to say, “Hey, can we do what Kevin was talking about, like housing-first, resources first, hugs first, communication first?” All that.For Evangelicals, Grace Is Not TangibleSy Hoekstra: Yeah, totally. I had kind of similar thoughts. I was gonna talk about how the moralism underlying all of the policy, like the treatment-first policy like, “You have to earn this, and we are suspicious of you, and we have all these stereotypes going in that we're just not going to question and we're gonna follow. And until you prove yourself worthy of our generosity, we're not gonna give it to you.” And so it's sort of like, we can talk about grace and generosity and all of that all day long, but we're not gonna put our money where our mouth is, especially not government money [laughs].Jonathan Walton: Yeah. Right, exactly.Sy Hoekstra: That's kind of the other side of the coin of the coin of what you were talking about, which is so there's this lack of grace generosity, but I think yours is actually a step further, which is if you're denying grace and generosity, you're going to have to take active steps to reinforce the frankly, evil way of doing things [laughs].Jonathan Walton: Yeah.Sy Hoekstra: And that's the amicus briefs and everything else. What I was just saying, that kind of moralism, it really is connected to the more fundamentalist side of evangelicalism about how, basically, grace is a spiritual thing. It's not a tangible thing. It's not a material thing. It's not something you practice outside of forgiving someone for wronging you. It's not something you do with your money and your resources. It just doesn't really have any business in the public square, or in public policy, which is not a distinction the Bible draws.Jonathan Walton: Right.Sy Hoekstra: The best you can argue is maybe it's a distinction that under your theology you think the Bible implies. It's definitely not explicit [laughter]. You can look at Leviticus, where there are so so many different provisions where God is requiring people to use the fruits of their own labor to provide for the poor in their neighborhood, and not in particularly efficient ways [laughter]. And Jesus is obviously, or John the Baptist is telling people, “If you have two coats, give one away.” There's the spirit, the direction where everything's going with the kingdom of God is so opposed to that way of thinking, in my view, that it's incredibly frustrating that we have to… Kevin, in particular. I'm frustrated for him, for advocates, and then for most of all, for the actual people who aren't getting housing, who are literally out on the streets. Some of them are freezing to death or starving to death because of our insistence on this moralism.Jonathan Walton: Right. The fundamental thing is at the end of the day, moralism is an argument that you need to earn the stuff, like you were just saying. And then it's like, I'm gonna create an entire ecosystem that justifies your poverty and my comfort.Christians Should Actively Invite Unhoused People into Our NeighborhoodsSy Hoekstra: My other thought was around markets, and a lot of how some of the intractability of housing policy is that so many people just have decided that when you put out public housing or low income housing somewhere, that that lowers the value of the property around it.Jonathan Walton: Yes.Sy Hoekstra: Which is by economists, the way they speak, it's an inevitability. It's just the way things are, and it can't be changed. But that is ultimately because the potential buyers of that property are bigots toward poor people [laughter].Jonathan Walton: Yeah. No, it's true. Right.Sy Hoekstra: It's such widespread, systemic bigotry that it changes the value of homes and buildings and land. And that's a choice. It is a choice that I will grant you most societies have made [laughs]. Like most societies, rich people want to cordon themselves off from everybody else and to use their money to try and escape the things about this world that are difficult and make us sad and uncomfortable and hurt. But that doesn't mean that it's not still a choice for which God absolutely holds us accountable. Go and read Amos, or whatever [laughter]. There's no question, it does not make God happy, and that we have a different way to go. But what we would need is something that seems kind of impossible at the moment, which is a… you've heard of a NIMBY?Jonathan Walton: Yes.Sy Hoekstra: NIMBY people, like Not In My Back Yard. So that means, “Don't put that new methadone clinic, don't put that new housing project anywhere near me.” We would need a YIMBY movement.Jonathan Walton: Yes.Sy Hoekstra: You actually have to have people who say, “Yes. I want poor people around. I want people who are trying to recover from drugs around. I want people who have mental health issues around. Because of my positive value for human life and communal flourishing.” And that truly feels impossible to me. I don't think it is, again, I think it's a choice. And one thing that I'm trying to do, I have narrow influence in the world. One person over whom I have a lot of influence is my two year old. I walk around New York City with her all the time. I take her to daycare, other places. And I'm trying to make a point that, we're not going to be afraid of the person who's having the mental health crisis, because the actual reality is, in that mental health crisis, they are in more danger than we are. They are the ones at risk, we are not.Most of them are not violent. A lot of us want to be violent towards them. Aka Jordan Neely, who was killed on the subway because he was having a mental health crisis, and people were sufficiently afraid of him. And so if I'm on the subway platform with my daughter and someone's having a mental health crisis, and they're not that far away from us, and people will move away from that person because they're afraid, I will stay there. And that has never been a problem, not once. You can tell me that that's dangerous or risky, and I don't care, because I know you're wrong, and I'm going to teach the person that I have the ability to teach that you're wrong [laughs]. And we're gonna stay there, and we're gonna be completely fine. I've been here for 16 years now. I've lived in New York City, and I've been around people having, I've worked with even my clients as a lawyer.These are not alien, weird people having scary freakouts to me. These are real people, who by the way, are fully conscious when they're having their mental health crises, and they can see everyone walking away from them, and they know how afraid everybody is of them, and that affects them deeply.Jonathan Walton: Yeah.Sy Hoekstra: And I'm not gonna be part of it. I will be the yes in my backyard person, even if nobody else is. There are other people who are. I'm not saying it's me against the world, but that is something that we need to insist on it.Jonathan Walton: Yeah, and honestly I think that ties literally perfectly into Which Tab Is Still Open.Which Tab Is Still Open? — Ta-Nehisi CoatesSy Hoekstra: Oh, yeah. Let's get into it. So this is Which Tab Is Still Open. This is the segment where we dive a little bit deeper into one of the recommendations from our newsletter, which you can get by joining the free mailing list at KTFPress.com. You'll get resources articles, podcasts, books, everything, recommendations from Jonathan and I on ways to grow in your discipleship and in your political education. So go to KTFPress.com, sign up for that free mailing list. Jonathan, we're talking about Ta-Nehisi Coates today. Why don't you tell us what we're talking about exactly?Jonathan Walton: Yes. So Ta-Nehisi Coates has a new book, it's called The Message. A very significant portion of it is about his trip to Israel and Palestine, occupied West Bank, Hebron, places like that. Some important points he makes are that when you see how Palestinians are treated up close, it's not really that hard to see it as apartheid or Jim Crow or any other exploitative, discriminatory system that has been set up. And he took a trip to the Holocaust Museum in Jerusalem, and found it profoundly moving as well, but just couldn't shake that the lesson Zionists took from the Holocaust was that, “We have to obtain our own power at all costs to prevent this from happening again.” He's had some really fascinating media appearances while promoting the book that we'll link to in the show notes.One of them, you mentioned the newsletter, was a great interview with The Daily Show. The interview that instigated a lot of this fervor and dialog and will probably help him sell a lot of books, which he's also said [laughter], was with CBS because he was basically ambushed by Tony Dokoupil, and was called an extremist in asking him pretty nonsensical questions for people who are against genocide, totally normal for people who are for Zionism. And the question he asked that many people ask is, “Does Israel have the right to exist?” And it's a rhetorical question, which Ta-Nehisi Coates actually answered when he said that countries don't have the right to exist, they exist by power. Just that turn was really great.But about the interview, there was controversy, because it came out that the interviewer went around CBS's editorial process and just went off on his own without telling anybody what he was doing. So Sy, what are your thoughts?The Power of Clarity and Focus in Prophetic Truth-TellingSy Hoekstra: I am so happy that Ta-Nehisi Coates is back writing nonfiction [laughter]. That's my main and primary thought. Everything he wrote in the 2010s is very formative for a lot of my thinking. I just love his approach to writing and journalism. He said many times he just, he writes to learn. He really appreciates the power of writing, and he has an incredible amount of moral clarity, a really impressive inability of everyone who's trying to distract him, to distract him. Like he's very focused. Like that question that you just brought up was a good example of it. Somebody says, “Does Israel have the right to exist?” He says, “Israel exists. States don't have the right to exist, they just do. They establish themselves with power. And now I'm gonna talk about, because Israel does exist, how does it exist, and why is that a problem?”It's just, I'm going to acknowledge your question. I'm going to say very quickly why it doesn't make any sense, and then I'm gonna get back to the point that matters [laughs].Jonathan Walton: Yes.Sy Hoekstra: And that is something I want to emulate in the way that I go about my writing and my commentary and all that. I mean, those are kind of my… [laughs] I'm not sure I have a lot of substantive thoughts about what you just said, I'm just happy he's back. He took a long path down the fiction road and was writing comic books and all kinds of other stuff, which is also very cool. And he also did that because he was like, “That's the challenge for me as a writer right now. I've never done this. I'm a little bit scared of it. I think being nervous is good as a writer. And I'm gonna go do this thing that makes me sort of uncomfortable, instead of just continuing to churn out bestsellers about whatever.” You know what I mean?Jonathan Walton: [laughter]. Right. Let me go and be challenged. Right right right.Sy Hoekstra: Yeah, which I really respect that too, even though it means there were several years where I didn't get his commentary on stuff that I would have appreciated [laughter]. That's what I have been thinking as I've been watching him. But how about you, and you said you were gonna connect it back to what we were talking about before?Jonathan Walton: Yes. So one, amen, I'm glad he's writing nonfiction as well.Sy Hoekstra: [laughs].Jonathan Walton: It's really powerful to me what truth telling does. He is stewarding a platform. He is leveraging his voice. He is doing what I would hope followers of Jesus would do in the ways that we can and the lives that we live every day. You're leveraging your platform with your daughter. You are her biggest influence. You and Gabrielle. The stewardship of his power and platform to elevate and center the most marginalized voice in the media landscape over the last 65 years, people from the Middle East. That we say the Middle East, because we're the center of the world.Sy Hoekstra: [laughs].Jonathan Walton: And so that reality comes from… I've listened to so many interviews. I listened to his one with The Daily Show, MSNBC, Zeteo with Mehdi Hassan. I listened to the one with Trevor Noah. I'm gonna listen to the one for Democracy Now!, I'm gonna listen to the one with The Gray Area, because I need to be reminded every day that there are people willing and able to say the hard things, not be distracted or dissuaded from what they're trying to say, and be willing to communicate that they would risk their own injury. He said, “It doesn't matter what someone else has done to me or how evil someone is, we should not kill them.” Over and over again. There is no world where it's, “Oh, it's complex. Oh, it's complicated.”No, no, no, it's not. It's not complicated. It becomes complicated if you don't think about it. Everything's complicated if we don't think about it. But if you actually sit down and think about what it would mean to be Palestinian and what it would mean to be a Jewish person post Holocaust, post multiple pogroms, I would love for us to arrive at the point where we're like, “I don't want to perpetuate that against anyone else, because it was perpetrated against me,” which is love your neighbor as yourself.Sy Hoekstra: Yeah.Jonathan Walton: Which he's not a follower of Jesus, but where we have instead landed is where he is willing to wrestle, he talked about this with Trevor Noah, he would hope that he would not become someone who would commit acts of violence to keep acts of violence from happening to him. That, I think is a rub. Like Nat Turner's rebellion and what happened on October the seventh when the quote- unquote, Hamas escaped. Even the words we use to describe the attack that happened, it literally is described like a breakout a lot of the times, in Zionist literature and communication. All of these things frame the Lebanese, or frame now the Iranians as not people. And what Ta-Nehisi Coates is trying to do is actually say they are people.And that gets back to what you're talking about with, yes in my backyard. This is a person. Jordan Neely is a person. The person on the street having the mental health crisis, the person who's going through a messy divorce and doesn't have anywhere to go, the folks that are unemployed or bust up here from Texas, these are individuals made in the image of God, who do not deserve harm. That is the thing that draws me back to Coates' interviews, because he's not avoiding the hard questions, but what he is doing is communicating a truth that the people asking hard questions don't like. We are no better than the person that we're shooting or bombing or killing. We're just not. And so why are we doing that to someone who is literally just like us?And so I will keep watching, I will keep listening, keep reading. I hope that there is a shift happening. I'm not optimistic. I'm grateful for him and driving the conversation, because it feels something has broken through that I hope continues, because that was a conversation on CBS Morning Show. That was a conversation on progressive, liberal, conservative. Like people are talking about the book, even if you're critiquing it, you got to talk about it. I'm glad that that's happening, and I hope that this is taking the trajectory of what happened in South Africa, that's the best case scenario.Sy Hoekstra: Yeah.Jonathan Walton: It's not the best case scenario, but politically in the limits that we have, it's the best case scenario.Sy Hoekstra: Yeah. And I think he thinks that way. Like when he talks about the power of writing, he's not talking about the power of my book to end the war, he's talking about the power of my book to influence some people who so

Not Another Baptist Podcast
Episode 440: Episode 365: We Quit

Not Another Baptist Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 18, 2024 19:32


Kyle and Matt started this thing as the Astros were in route to their first World Series* and have recorded an episode every Friday since (except for one in June 2024), but that comes to an end today after 365 episodes since October 2017. Thanks for tuning in!

The David Knight Show
Thr 17Oct24 David Knight UNABRIDGED - How FEMA Steals as Mainstream Makes FEMA the "Victims"

The David Knight Show

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 17, 2024 179:07


Mainstream media portrays FEMA as victim, in danger from furious hurricane survivors but never asks WHY the REAL victims are so angry.  Here's one man's experience that shows why and shows that FEMA and MSM are lyingLala exposed and humiliated on FOX in Bret Baier interviewTrump's evolution from Democrat candidate to Reform candidate to Republican(2:00) FEMA: Villain or Victim? Media says victim, survivors say villainAnother establishment media story that doesn't hold together portrays survivors as vigilante villainsThis man, who lost his own, offered to help with his business.  FEMA is hiding supplies there to be thrown away and now EVICTING him from his business!WHY is FEMA confiscating volunteer aid and destroying it?FEMA is part of the bipartisan UNIPARTY leviathan state, corrupt for decades(28:08) The Evolution of TrumpIn 1999 Trump ran as a Hillary DEMOCRAT on universal healthcare and wealth confiscation from the upper 1%, proposing the largest tax increase in history.  He wanted Oprah as his VPAfter a couple of months he moves to REFORM party and then drops outMusk throws in for Trump with $75MWhy did Dinesh D'Souza go to jail for $25,000 contribution but Musk can contribute $75,000,000?In 1999 Trump was all about eliminating the deficit.  Now he's offering one-off favors from the tax code, the latest being tax-deductible auto loans.  Who does THAT benefit the most?  Are we already seeing Musk's "investment" bearing fruit?(57:17) Follow the Campaign MoneyHow much did Biden get from BigPharma?  How did Trump get?Who has more billionaire donors — Trump or Lala?How much did Hillary raise in 2016?  How much of it did she spend?  What about Trump?(1:00:20) Trump promises to end sanctuary cities for illegalsHOW does he propose to do it?How do the leftists run sanctuary cities in Texas?What about Tx vs Feds on the border — Operation Lonestar — currently in the courts?How much did Biden get from BigPharma?  How did Trump get?What's more important, even on the border issue: federal or state & local elections?(1:06:20) WATCH: Lala Harris' first REAL interview — she CAN'T HANDLE HARDBALLIs she with Biden or "turning the page"?Does she know even how many their stand down at the border has let in? Does she care?Did she lie about Biden's mental capacity?  Is she STILL lying?A panicked Lala campaign team called halt to the interview(1:20:41) First UK conviction ever for "thought crime" — against a ChristianYou won't believe how much the government spent to convict someone over praying silentlyNo jail, yet, but over $11,000 penalty(1:29:22) UK University puts "trigger warning" on Chaucer's Canterbury Tales because it talks about the "Christian faith".  That's how offensive Christ  is to the "academics" (1:34:02) INTERVIEW All Time High Global Debt (and Gold) Tony Arterburn, DavidKnight.goldGold hits ATH (All Time High) this morning and again during interviewRemember a few months ago when those bullish on gold were predicting $2,700 by Jan 2025?  Today is a couple dollars shy of thatGlobal debt is soaring to ATH (All Time High)Expectation of war, inflation, and unrest at ATHWhen will silver explode?(2:02:19) Listener correspondence (2:04:12) Democrats don't want to talk about LATE term abortions — and neither do GOP!How many states allow full term abortions?  How many viable babies were murdered last year?You've heard about polls supporting abortion?  Do you know how PUSH POLLS work?  Look at the radically different answers based on how the poll is wordedWalz's prohibition of Christian counseling or conversion for children — unless you're converting them to the idea they're in the wrong body and need to be mutilatedTrannies in the military getting operations are also getting cancer(2:17:31) Lala the Vicious, False Prosecutor as DA & State Attorney GeneralMan falsely convicted by Lala (who got $13 MILLION in compensation) wants an apologyWhy doesn't the GOP use her persecution of abortion for baby parts whistleblower against both her and abortion?Eric Adams, scandal-ridden Mayor of NYC, is attacked by public NOT for corruption, but for NOT taking sides with Mets vs Yankees.  A metaphor for the tribalism we see in Presidential electionInauguration construction has already started — 3 MONTHS IN ADVANCE — for the inauguration since they expect troubleMAGA media, incorporated is already stoking their audience for another Jan6 if Trump doesn't win(2:29:43) EV's are underwater — financially that isThe value of used EVs has dropped so quickly that owners are underwater on their loans by an ASTOUNDING average amountFRAUD that the federal government doesn't care about — remember what they did with VW over "emissions" fraud?  EV range is only HALF, on average, what is advertisedChina is deliberating flooding the market off lithium batteries to drive competitors out.  So why is the Pentagon pushing to expand the NC lithium mine?  Hint: it's NOT for battery powered tanks(2:40:49) Listener live comments (2:52:18) Netflix and Joel Osteen are doing a Christmas Nativity movie.  "The Great Hannibal Lecter" will be playing HerodIf you would like to support the show and our family please consider subscribing monthly here: SubscribeStar https://www.subscribestar.com/the-david-knight-showOr you can send a donation throughMail: David Knight POB 994 Kodak, TN 37764Zelle: @DavidKnightShow@protonmail.comCash App at: $davidknightshowBTC to: bc1qkuec29hkuye4xse9unh7nptvu3y9qmv24vanh7Money should have intrinsic value AND transactional privacy: Go to DavidKnight.gold for great deals on physical gold/silverFor 10% off Gerald Celente's prescient Trends Journal, go to TrendsJournal.com and enter the code KNIGHTBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-david-knight-show--2653468/support.

The REAL David Knight Show
Thr 17Oct24 David Knight UNABRIDGED - How FEMA Steals as Mainstream Makes FEMA the "Victims"

The REAL David Knight Show

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 17, 2024 179:07


Mainstream media portrays FEMA as victim, in danger from furious hurricane survivors but never asks WHY the REAL victims are so angry.  Here's one man's experience that shows why and shows that FEMA and MSM are lyingLala exposed and humiliated on FOX in Bret Baier interviewTrump's evolution from Democrat candidate to Reform candidate to Republican(2:00) FEMA: Villain or Victim? Media says victim, survivors say villainAnother establishment media story that doesn't hold together portrays survivors as vigilante villainsThis man, who lost his own, offered to help with his business.  FEMA is hiding supplies there to be thrown away and now EVICTING him from his business!WHY is FEMA confiscating volunteer aid and destroying it?FEMA is part of the bipartisan UNIPARTY leviathan state, corrupt for decades(28:08) The Evolution of TrumpIn 1999 Trump ran as a Hillary DEMOCRAT on universal healthcare and wealth confiscation from the upper 1%, proposing the largest tax increase in history.  He wanted Oprah as his VPAfter a couple of months he moves to REFORM party and then drops outMusk throws in for Trump with $75MWhy did Dinesh D'Souza go to jail for $25,000 contribution but Musk can contribute $75,000,000?In 1999 Trump was all about eliminating the deficit.  Now he's offering one-off favors from the tax code, the latest being tax-deductible auto loans.  Who does THAT benefit the most?  Are we already seeing Musk's "investment" bearing fruit?(57:17) Follow the Campaign MoneyHow much did Biden get from BigPharma?  How did Trump get?Who has more billionaire donors — Trump or Lala?How much did Hillary raise in 2016?  How much of it did she spend?  What about Trump?(1:00:20) Trump promises to end sanctuary cities for illegalsHOW does he propose to do it?How do the leftists run sanctuary cities in Texas?What about Tx vs Feds on the border — Operation Lonestar — currently in the courts?How much did Biden get from BigPharma?  How did Trump get?What's more important, even on the border issue: federal or state & local elections?(1:06:20) WATCH: Lala Harris' first REAL interview — she CAN'T HANDLE HARDBALLIs she with Biden or "turning the page"?Does she know even how many their stand down at the border has let in? Does she care?Did she lie about Biden's mental capacity?  Is she STILL lying?A panicked Lala campaign team called halt to the interview(1:20:41) First UK conviction ever for "thought crime" — against a ChristianYou won't believe how much the government spent to convict someone over praying silentlyNo jail, yet, but over $11,000 penalty(1:29:22) UK University puts "trigger warning" on Chaucer's Canterbury Tales because it talks about the "Christian faith".  That's how offensive Christ  is to the "academics" (1:34:02) INTERVIEW All Time High Global Debt (and Gold) Tony Arterburn, DavidKnight.goldGold hits ATH (All Time High) this morning and again during interviewRemember a few months ago when those bullish on gold were predicting $2,700 by Jan 2025?  Today is a couple dollars shy of thatGlobal debt is soaring to ATH (All Time High)Expectation of war, inflation, and unrest at ATHWhen will silver explode?(2:02:19) Listener correspondence (2:04:12) Democrats don't want to talk about LATE term abortions — and neither do GOP!How many states allow full term abortions?  How many viable babies were murdered last year?You've heard about polls supporting abortion?  Do you know how PUSH POLLS work?  Look at the radically different answers based on how the poll is wordedWalz's prohibition of Christian counseling or conversion for children — unless you're converting them to the idea they're in the wrong body and need to be mutilatedTrannies in the military getting operations are also getting cancer(2:17:31) Lala the Vicious, False Prosecutor as DA & State Attorney GeneralMan falsely convicted by Lala (who got $13 MILLION in compensation) wants an apologyWhy doesn't the GOP use her persecution of abortion for baby parts whistleblower against both her and abortion?Eric Adams, scandal-ridden Mayor of NYC, is attacked by public NOT for corruption, but for NOT taking sides with Mets vs Yankees.  A metaphor for the tribalism we see in Presidential electionInauguration construction has already started — 3 MONTHS IN ADVANCE — for the inauguration since they expect troubleMAGA media, incorporated is already stoking their audience for another Jan6 if Trump doesn't win(2:29:43) EV's are underwater — financially that isThe value of used EVs has dropped so quickly that owners are underwater on their loans by an ASTOUNDING average amountFRAUD that the federal government doesn't care about — remember what they did with VW over "emissions" fraud?  EV range is only HALF, on average, what is advertisedChina is deliberating flooding the market off lithium batteries to drive competitors out.  So why is the Pentagon pushing to expand the NC lithium mine?  Hint: it's NOT for battery powered tanks(2:40:49) Listener live comments (2:52:18) Netflix and Joel Osteen are doing a Christmas Nativity movie.  "The Great Hannibal Lecter" will be playing HerodIf you would like to support the show and our family please consider subscribing monthly here: SubscribeStar https://www.subscribestar.com/the-david-knight-showOr you can send a donation throughMail: David Knight POB 994 Kodak, TN 37764Zelle: @DavidKnightShow@protonmail.comCash App at: $davidknightshowBTC to: bc1qkuec29hkuye4xse9unh7nptvu3y9qmv24vanh7Money should have intrinsic value AND transactional privacy: Go to DavidKnight.gold for great deals on physical gold/silverFor 10% off Gerald Celente's prescient Trends Journal, go to TrendsJournal.com and enter the code KNIGHTBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-real-david-knight-show--5282736/support.

THE ED MYLETT SHOW
Unlock Your Potential And Do Impossible Things

THE ED MYLETT SHOW

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 20, 2024 79:22


Get ready for an episode that's all about breaking barriers and achieving the impossible! In this throwback mashup, you'll learn the principles and strategies that have propelled some of the most successful individuals to the top of their fields including: Stephen Scoggins shares how to develop unwavering tenacity and resilience, revealing the personal strategies that helped him overcome monumental challenges. Trevor Moawad provides revolutionary approaches to maximizing performance and achieving peak mental state, insights that can be applied across any industry. Joel Osteen brings his wisdom on creating a culture of excellence and leadership that inspires action and loyalty, sharing the true essence of positive thinking and faith. Plus, I'm sharing my personal journey, revealing how strategic thinking and emotional mastery have been key to my success. This episode is packed with hard-hitting truths, strategies for exponential growth, and the mindset shifts necessary to elevate your game. I'm setting the stage for you to revolutionize your approach to challenges, rethink your potential, and recalibrate your goals. This is your crash course in achieving the extraordinary! Follow The Ed Mylett Show: Apple Podcasts: http://apple.co/edmylettshow Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19TdDBlFkqh7uevYO0jFSW?si=d4ce5631a961441e YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@EdMylettShow Or Wherever, you listen! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Oprah’s SuperSoul Conversations
Super Soul Special: Oprah Winfrey: The Climb

Oprah’s SuperSoul Conversations

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 5, 2024 23:41


Original Air Date: May 26, 2021Oprah says, “I have always thought a mountain is a magnificent metaphor for life. From a distance, the ascent looks clear and smooth, but once you actually set out for the summit, you discover unexpected valleys and precarious ridges along the way. If your internal compass isn't set to keep climbing, every stumble will give you an excuse to turn back. Over the years, there have been many times when I've found myself climbing a steep, rocky road and there have been setbacks which threatened to overwhelm me or stop me in my tracks. But I've learned to keep going and to tell myself, ‘This too shall pass, and I will be better for it.' In this Super Soul podcast, Oprah sits down with such legendary spiritual teachers and thought leaders as: Eckhart Tolle, Stephen Colbert, President Joe Biden (VP at the time), Father Richard Rohr, Kristen and Rob Bell, Alanis Morissette, Cheryl Strayed, Paul Williams, Tracey Jackson, Glennon Doyle, Tracy McMillan, Cindy Crawford, Jon Bon Jovi and Joel Osteen. They discuss how they made their way up their own mountains, and what kept them going, no matter how steep the climb. A similar path is waiting for you. Interviews with these talented writers, speakers and thought leaders are excerpted from her Emmy Award-winning show Super Soul Sunday. You can also find this compilation and other insightful conversations, in Oprah's best-selling book The Path Made Clear. Want more podcasts from OWN? Visit https://bit.ly/OWNPods  You can also watch Oprah's Super Soul, The Oprah Winfrey Show and more of your favorite OWN shows on your TV! Visit https://bit.ly/find_OWN