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On today's show I welcome Mark Malkoff to discuss the behind-the-scenes reality of hosting The Tonight Show. In Love Johnny Carson, Mark's research reveals a grueling early format where Johnny Carson performed two separate monologues across an hour-and-45-minute runtime. While the media frequently labeled Carson cold, our conversation highlights a shy, private man who still maintained a down-to-earth Midwestern sensibility—driving himself without security, signing his own fan mail, and masking immense personal tragedies from his audience. As a massive fan of Dick Cavett, I especially enjoyed discussing Cavett's time writing for Carson and how his conversational style pioneered the modern interview format. Great book, great chat!Thanks for listening.Kyler---Episode Links:Purchase Love Johnny CarsonMark's WebsiteThe Carson Podcast

I had the chance to speak with director and co-writer Catherine Hardwicke about her new film, Street Smart, which she penned alongside Nic Sheff (author of Tweak, the basis for the film Beautiful Boy). The film serves as an "Oliver Twist" style look at young creatives supporting each other through hard times in Venice Beach. Catherine shared the fascinating story of casting newcomer Isiah Hilt as Drex, a role they had written that mirrored Isiah's actual life as a Venice local. The production embraced a stark realism by shooting on the winter boardwalk, navigating the real-world grit of the location.Our conversation also highlighted the film's unique cast, which features a blend of fresh faces and recognizable names like Paris Jackson, Skeet Ulrich, and Sally Struthers—who won Catherine over with a hilariously enthusiastic costume audition. With a strong musical pulse that includes original tracks from both Tyson Ritter of the All American Rejects and Isiah himself, Street Smart brought its vibrant energy straight to a sold-out premiere at the Bentonville Film Festival. It was wonderful discussing Catherine's enduring passion for authentic storytelling, and you can keep up with the project's journey by following their Instagram at @streetsmart.movie. Thanks for listening!Kyler---Episode Links:IG: @streetsmart.movieStreet Smart trailer

I had the chance to sit down with professional skateboarder and actor Isiah Hilt to discuss his starring role in director Catherine Hardwicke's new film, Street Smart, following its premiere at the Bentonville Film Festival. Isiah plays Drex, a character that heavily draws from his own life story of growing up on his own around Venice Beach. He stepped into the role naturally, relying on his years of experience as a street performer to connect with the cast and handle the transition to the screen without letting the cameras phase him.Beyond acting, Isiah spends much of his time teaching local kids to skate, a passion we talked about during the episode. He shared his perspective on how the constant falling in skateboarding teaches kids not to have a healthy view of fear, a mindset that has shaped his own life. We also discussed his music, specifically "BETTER DAYS?"—a track from his EP LET ME VENT that plays over the film's closing credits and reflects his journey through tough times. It was great catching up with him just as the movie rolls out to audiences.Thanks for listening!Kyler---Episode Links:IG: @isiahhiltStreet Smart IG: @streetsmart.movieIsiah Hilt on SpotifySLD Interview with Catherine Hardwicke

In the latest episode of Salt Lake Dirt, Kyler welcomes back author Michael McKinley alongside his co-author and writing partner, Nancy Merritt Bell, to celebrate their novel The Glamour of Evil winning the prestigious Indie Gold Grand Prize. This thrilling Vatican espionage novel follows Maddie Lynch, a New York TV producer who unexpectedly gets drafted into a high-stakes world of global raw intelligence, missing Vatican millions, and historical secrets dating back to World War II. The duo dives into the fascinating inspiration behind the book—sparked by a quote from Nazi hunter Simon Wiesenthal about the Vatican having the best spy agency in the world—and shares details about the book's anticipated upcoming paperback, ebook, and audiobook release. Beyond the secrets of the Vatican, Michael and Nancy open up about their unique, tag-team collaborative process. They share how Nancy's dyslexia and background in dramaturgy act as a storytelling superpower, helping her visualize the "shapes" of a narrative to inject action, depth, and pacing into Michael's dialogue and prose. The couple also discusses an incredible new venture through their publishing company, BookGo: a brand-new, intensive annual writing workshop hosted at the University of Oxford, designed to give aspiring writers masterclasses and one-on-one mentorship in one of the world's most historic literary cities.Thanks for listening!---Episode Links:Purchase The Glamour of EvilBookGo.pubThe Oxford Writers Workshop - Aug. 14-20th, 2026

We are back with another episode of Salt Lake Dirt, featuring recurring guest artist and author Dmitry Samarov. In this conversation, we focus on independent publishing and the process of bringing public domain literature back to print. Dmitry shares the details of his recent artistic endeavors, including his illustrations for the new edition of Sherwood Anderson's Winesburg, Ohio and his upcoming release of William Faulkner's The Sound and the Fury. Our conversation also covers the changing landscape of indie publishing, the clarity that comes with stepping away from social media, and the unexpected revival of cassette tape culture. Plus, Dmitry introduces Krystle Ratticus new pulp-style memoir, Ornery Cuss. Head over to DmitrySamarov.com to read his weekly newsletter, view his artwork, and pre-order his latest books.Thanks for listening!Kyler---Episode Links:DmitrySamarov.comBooks from Maudlin HouseMoby Dick cassette tapePurchase Ornery Cuss

Filmmaker Ryan Dougall Talks Late-Night Comedy PilotIn our latest episode, I sat down with filmmaker Ryan Dougall to discuss his 44-minute comedy pilot, It's Getting Late with Owen Reed, screening at Dances With Films on June 27th. Described as "The Office meets The Larry Sanders Show" for the streaming era, this independent workplace comedy follows a dysfunctional crew behind a low-budget talk show. Driven by a fantastic ensemble cast the project pulls directly from Ryan's years in unscripted television to deliver big laughs and wonderfully eccentric, authentic characters.Check out the full interview to hear about Ryan's childhood bootleg VHS inspiration, and grab tickets to catch the screening at the TCL Chinese Theatre.Thanks for listening!Kyler---Episode Links:IG: @itsgettinglateofficialTikTok: @itsgettinglate.officialDWF Screening: Series Block 8 - Saturday June 27, 1:45pm

In our latest episode, I welcomed back author William Loving to talk about his new novel, Fells Point, which hit shelves on June 9th. Returning to his hometown of Baltimore, William has crafted a brilliant story about Danny Doyle, a middle-aged Orioles fan living on borrowed time who sets out on a localized bucket list to truly soak in his city. His journey leads him straight into a strange, unnamed historic dive bar where he enters a deeply compelling world that is part page-turning noir thriller and part meditation on loneliness, alienation, and the search for human connection. Drawing on his 30-year background as a newspaper journalist, William brings a sharp, direct, and propulsive pace to the book without any of the formulaic fluff. We had a blast discussing his writing process, the enduring legacy of classic 1940s film noir, and the incredible twist at the end of the novel that readers won't see coming. You can check out the full episode now, and be sure to pick up your copy of the book through William's local indie shop, Vroman's Pasadena, or by visiting williamloving-author.com. Thanks for listening!Kyler---Episode Links:WilliamLoving-AuthorPurchase Fells Point through your local bookstore

I recently chatted with author Darek Isaacs about his new novel, The Legendary Adventures of Doc Copper and the Mad Dash of Fire Face, published by Skyhorse Publishing. Drawing from his childhood summers spent living in Ohio, Isaacs infuses the story with high-octane dirt bike racing and dangerous adrenaline. He even shared the real-life inspiration behind the book's wild horse scenes—his own teenage "midnight runs" riding bareback on a cattle farm. The novel appeals to a broad spectrum of readers, from ages 12 to 75, by intentionally channeling the natural, rambunctious energy of youth into positive pursuits rather than squashing it. Written at a fast clip with section breaks instead of traditional chapters, the book cuts the downtime to keep the action constantly moving. It's a quick, gripping read that draws from his own travels through Mexico and Texas. Check out our full interview wherever you get podcasts.Thanks for listening!Kyler---PURCHASE: The Legendary Adventures of Doc Copper: And the Mad Dash of Fire Face

On the latest episode of Salt Lake Dirt, I sat down with playwright and author Richard Ploetz to talk about his beautiful new novel, South, recently released by Arcade Publishing. The book chronicles 30 years in the relationship of two main characters, Bert and Trudy, tracking their journey through the shifting chapters of their lives. Threaded together by edited versions of Richard's own real-life journal entries, South expertly captures the fluidity of time and the stark realization that, if we live long enough, we truly do inhabit several completely different lives over the course of our existence.Beyond the prose of the novel, Richard and I talked about his extensive background as a playwright and how his artistic worlds constantly feed into one another. He shared details about his upcoming play scheduled to run this November in the East Village. South is easily one of the most stunning books I've read in a long time. I highly recommend it. Thanks for listening!Kyler---Episode Links:Purchase SOUTHRichardPloetz.com

On today's episode Kyler sits down with Kate Luckinbill, the granddaughter of television royalty Desi Arnaz and Lucille Ball, and the daughter of Lucie Arnaz. As a partner at Desilu, Too, Kate works directly with her mother to protect, license, and strategically manage the incredible legacy left behind by her iconic grandparents. Kate shares hilarious behind-the-scenes stories from her childhood, growing up under a massive Hollywood shadow, and her heartwarming personal memories of spending afternoons with her "Nana."The conversation explores the brilliant, often underappreciated mind of Desi Arnaz—from his groundbreaking structural contributions to television to his introduction of Afro-Cuban rhythms to American music. Kate reflects on the family's effort to keep his history authentic, highlighting the recent re-release of his autobiography, A Book, and Lucy and Desi: The Love Letters. Thanks for listening!---Episode Links:Desilu, Too, LLCPurchase A Book by Desi ArnazFollow Kate on TikTok: @k8luckinbill

I had the immense honor of speaking with a guest I have admired for well over a decade: author, retired broadcaster, and advocate Jeff Bell. Discovering Jeff's groundbreaking books—his memoir Rewind, Replay, Repeat and his invaluable guide When in Doubt, Make Belief—profoundly shaped my own perspective on navigating life after my own OCD diagnosis. During our conversation, Jeff openly shared his powerful journey of navigating an elaborate "double life" while hosting a major radio program in the Bay Area, the terrifying vulnerability of sharing his diagnosis publicly in 2007, and the incredible, open-armed warmth he found within the mental health advocacy community. We discuss the core mechanics of OCD, discussing how the disorder fundamentally drives a grueling search for absolute certainty, and why learning to actively live in the gray area is the key to managing it. Using a brilliant swimming pool metaphor to illustrate the realities of Exposure and Response Prevention (ERP) therapy, Jeff highlighted that while sitting with your worst fears is undeniably hard work, the payoff of a reclaimed life is entirely worth it. Whether you are living with OCD yourself, supporting a loved one, or simply looking to understand the disorder beyond the common stereotypes, Jeff's insights on paying kindness forward are deeply inspiring. Check out the full episode and visit jeffbellonline.com to learn more about his incredible work and upcoming advocacy events. Thanks for listening!Kyler---Episode Links:Jeff Bell's WebsiteInformation on the 2026 IOCDF Conference in Seattle (July 9-12)

In today's episode Kyler sits down with Los Angeles singer-songwriter Bella Beau to explore the deeply visual qualities of her music. The literary podcast found a natural connection in her cinematic single "Mask of Flowers," which she notes is heavily inspired by her vivid dreams, the gothic styling of Tim Burton, and the dark themes of The Picture of Dorian Gray. The conversation highlights her early immersion in the L.A. music scene, where her childhood fascination with film composers like Danny Elfman eventually led her from opera camp to performing live sets. Her unique style seamlessly blends the languid delivery of classic jazz vocalists like Julie London with the bold art-pop styling of David Bowie. Make sure to listen to the end to hear the new single "Mask of Flowers," and keep up-to-date for upcoming singles by following her socials below.Thanks for listening!---Episode Links:BellaBeauMusic.comListen to Bella Beau on SpotifyInstagram: @bellabeaumusicTikTok: @bellabeaumusicYouTube: @bellabeaumusic

Kyler sits down with author Victoria Hetherington to discuss her timely new book, The Friend Machine: On the Trail of AI Companionship. Shifting from science fiction to real-world journalism, Hetherington explores the stories of people forming deep bonds with artificial minds to combat an "epidemic of loneliness". She emphasizes that artificial intimacy lacks the vital, real-world friction and intervention that only human relationships can provide. To hear the full interview, click here, look for The Friend Machine worldwide, and tune into Hetherington's companion CBC podcast series, Understood: Artificial Intimacy. Thanks for listening!---Episode Links:Purchase The Friend Machine: On the Trail of AI CompanionshipListen to Victoria's podcast Understood: Artificial IntimacyFollow Victoria on Instagram @vmhetherington

I sat down with filmmaker and producer Sophie Power following her trip to the Cannes Film Festival. We discussed her 11-minute experimental documentary short, Whatever A Son Will Always Sing. Bypassing the heavy-handed exposition of traditional documentaries, the film uses professional actors and a dreamscape visual approach to blend fiction with real-life interviews. Sophie spoke with 50 different women about the exact, pivotal moment they were forced to grow up, ultimately weaving together four universal narratives that explore everything from the discomfort of being under a microscope to the sudden awareness of danger that shatters childhood bliss. Her goal was to dismantle the shame that often shrouds these collective female experiences, offering a platform where they can be spoken loudly and frankly. Sophie's background spans from a lifelong obsession with human stories and visual art to working on high-profile archival projects. Before directing her own work, she lent her production and research talents to major documentary teams—including assisting Motto Pictures on a Sundance film about the iconic singer Selena Quintanilla-Perez, and serving as a production coordinator for the Stephen Hawking documentary Hawking: Can You Hear Me? Check out the full conversation, and stay updated on her upcoming festival circuit by following her on Instagram at @sophiefrpower. Thanks for listening.Kyler---Episode Links:SophiePower.infoInstagram: @sophiefrpowerMore interview at SaltLakeDirt.com

In the latest episode of Salt Lake Dirt, Kyler sits down with the team behind Working Girls Press to discuss their new anthology, I Hate My Job. Joining the conversation are press co-founders Molly Simmons and Emily Marie Passos Duffy, along with the book's editor, Adrie Rose. Born from a shared desire to publish uncensored, nuanced perspectives on the sex work industry, the independent press deliberately challenges mainstream publishing's obsession with tidy "redemption arcs". Instead, I Hate My Job offers a raw, highly collaborative look at labor under late-stage capitalism, pulling together pieces primarily written by current sex workers, many of whom are simultaneously navigating the worlds of higher education and academia. A central focus of the episode is the concept of "class drag," a term exploring how sex workers perform specific socioeconomic identities to navigate the modern economy. Listeners looking to grab a copy of I Hate My Job or check out their debut anthology, The Holy Hour, can find them directly at workinggirlspress.com. You can follow Adrie Rose's work on IG at @AdrieRising, and listen to her romance media podcast, Pages and Prejudice. Thanks for listening!---Episode Links:Working Girls PressPurchase I Hate My JobListen to more interviews at SALT LAKE DIRT.com

On the latest episode of Salt Lake Dirt, I sat down with author Perrin Pring to talk about her novel, Cash and Gravity, which releases on May 26th from Diversion Books. The story is set in a near future where six mega-corporations have essentially supplanted global governments. It follows Chevy Cole, a military grunt who unexpectedly ends up on the run with a stolen mobile fusion device that everyone is trying to track down. Perrin shared how the initial spark for the book came from a conversation with her husband during a long, remote drive through Nevada after days spent off the grid on the Green River. We also talked about how her career as a park ranger helps her bring a gritty, hands-on realism to the physical struggles her characters face. What I found especially interesting was hearing about her rewriting process and her willingness to take tough feedback. Influenced by her time in a low-residency MFA program and advice from author Todd Goldberg, Perrin actually swapped the genders of her main characters late in the process to find the right dynamic. We discussed the lore of her "Aces"—the elite, space-based super-soldiers who are treated like celebrity athletes in this corporate world—and how they contrast with characters who just want to stay off the grid. Perrin also pulled back the curtain on the business side of writing, from balancing a full-time job with creative deadlines to the grind of maintaining a social media platform. It was a great conversation about craft and the realities of the industry. Check out the episode, and you can find Perrin's weekly vignettes and reviews on Instagram and Substack. Thanks for listening!Kyler---Episode Links:Perrin's SubstackIG: @perrinpringauthorVisit SALT LAKE DIRT for more interviews

What happens when a mid-level drug dealer gets killed, instantly wakes up inside the body of a newborn baby with his adult consciousness completely intact, and decides to spend his childhood plotting revenge? That is the bizarre, hilarious, and strangely heartwarming premise behind Imagine My Surprise!, the latest novel by K.S. Haddock. Originally conceived all the way back in 2008 as a piece of auto-fiction—where he used his own name and those of his real-life friends—the manuscript sat on a shelf for nearly a decade after he hit a wall with the ending. It wasn't until a push from his current editor that Haddock stripped out the self-insert elements, locked down the structural arc, and finally brought the novel to the finish line. We talked a lot about the inherent comedy of the book's premise, particularly the scenes where the main character, Keenan, treats his daycare like a halfway house and slips out for middle-of-the-night tactical walks while he is still less than two feet tall. To make his revenge plot work before he's even old enough to get a driver's license, Keenan has to recruit an ally: an eccentric man named Stoli who hangs out behind a neighborhood 7-Eleven. It's an odd-couple dynamic born out of Haddock's own college years working shifts at a 7-Eleven.Beyond the page, Haddock utilized his background as a digital artist and art director to completely design the book's striking cover and interior layout himself. He also shared the fascinating process behind creating the audiobook, which he recorded over seven months out of a DIY tent setup in his garage alongside close friends and actors. We also touched on his personal background growing up in a musical family with Alabama roots, his early success getting published at twenty-five, and his current advocacy project, "Real Men Read," which aims to get more young men interested in reading for pleasure. Imagine My Surprise! is out now on Heresy Press, an imprint of Skyhorse Publishing, and is an incredibly satisfying read that pulls off a wild concept with absolute confidence. Thanks for listening!Kyler---Show Notes & Links:Official Website: Find everything about his projects and order shirts supporting literacy at kshaddock.com. Support Indie Books: K.S. Haddock is a big proponent of privately run independent bookshops. If you can, head down to your local brick-and-mortar store to pick up or request a physical copy! You can also order from independent stores on Bookshop.org.Audiobook: Check out the stylized narration by Chris Zegri and Lang Zerner on Audible.YouTube Channel for Imagine My Surprise!

On today's episode of Salt Lake Dirt, I am thrilled to welcome author, coach, and actor Jamie Rose to discuss her new book, Facing Madame X: The Tools for Women. Mixing memoir with practical tools, Jamie explores how to address everyday emotional pressures, cultivate life force, and step into forward momentum. We discuss the profound beauty of learning to embrace uncertainty and some of the practical exercises she uses to guide people forward. We talk about her original journal exercise called "Musing," which helps individuals figure out their next creative steps through action rather than overthinking. Jamie also opens up about her journey navigating a shifting relationship with her late mother, the realities of modern validation culture, and what it looks like to find compassion by understanding our family members' "Shadow Selves". You can pick up Facing Madame X: The Tools for Women wherever you find books, and follow Jamie on Instagram @jamierosehere. To explore her monthly coaching groups, seminars, and more of her work, be sure to visit Jamie Rose Coaching. Thanks for listening!Kyler---Episode Links:PURCHASE Facing Madame XJamieRoseCoaching.comIG: @jamierosehereSalt Lake Dirt

On this episode of Salt Lake Dirt, I had a great time chatting with Lauren C. Johnson about her novel, The West Façade.The story is set in 1348 Paris and follows the statues of Notre Dame. In the novel, they actually get one night of life every new moon, but they aren't supposed to interact with the human world at all. Things get complicated when the main character, Sainte Geneviève, tastes a piece of fruit left by a mourner. That one moment of human sensation basically changes everything for her, and she has to decide if she wants to stay a silent observer or actually try to live a human life.It was interesting hearing about where the idea started. Lauren was visiting Paris as a student over twenty years ago and found herself really drawn to how intense and "unforgiving" the statues looked. That feeling stuck with her for two decades before it finally turned into this book.We also got into some random, fun territory, like vintage My LIttle Pony toys, rescue doves, and how Bubo the mechanical owl from Clash of the Titans was a huge influence on her. Great chat, great book! Thanks for listening.Kyler

In this latest episode of Salt Lake Dirt, I was so happy to welcome filmmaker Michelle Bossy back to the show. Michelle is someone who stays incredibly busy—she's actually directed 20+ short films and two features at this point—so it's always a treat to catch up with her and see what she's been working on. This time around, we took a deep dive into two of her latest short films, "We Regret to Inform You" and "Exception(al)," both of which have been making some serious noise on the festival circuit. We started things off talking about "We Regret to Inform You," which was written by and stars Michelle's long-time friend, Zina Wilde. It's a 13-minute film that manages to be both funny and deeply moving, using a bit of magical realism to explore the universal pain of a bad breakup. Xena's script likens heartbreak to a terminal heart condition, where a bumbling health insurance operator, played wonderfully by Kai Lennox, calls to tell her it's her last day of life. It's a beautiful, textured piece of storytelling that really packs an emotional punch in a short amount of time. Then we went on to talk about "Exception(al)," which was written by and stars another massive talent, Molly Powers. This one was filmed right on the campus of Brooklyn College during the summer. Molly drew from her own personal experiences in film school to dramatize the feeling of being an outsider, often as the only woman or Asian American person in the room. It explores complex themes of representation and microaggressions in academia without ever feeling pitying. Michelle even shared a great behind-the-scenes story about having to scale a campus fence after the crew got locked in on the final day of shooting! Beyond the films, Michelle also gave us a look at her extensive work in theater. She's currently involved with a play about Bill Cosby written by Janine Nabers that's heading to Los Angeles this fall, and she's been touring the world with a production called "A Poem and a Mistake." If you want to keep up with what she's doing, you can find her on Instagram at @michellebossydirects or check out her feature film "Nobody's Home" on Apple.

On this episode of Salt Lake Dirt, I had the pleasure of talking with writer Jennifer Ostopovich. Based in Calgary, Canada, Jennifer shares her fascinating path from being an obsessive childhood reader to becoming a "pandemic writer". Despite being what she calls a "lousy student" who struggled with the sensory overload of traditional classrooms, she was reading adult novels by Stephen King and Clive Barker as early as second grade. Growing up in a rural trailer park without cable or a telephone, books became her primary window into the world, offering a connection to characters that television simply couldn't match. Our conversation touches on Jennifer's transition from writing a spy thriller during the lockdowns to finding her voice in the literary community online. She discusses her affinity for transgressive literature and her commitment to writing about uncomfortable topics like poverty and abuse—subjects often overlooked in more academic circles. We also talk about her short story "Guts," which explores the raw emotional landscape of childhood, and her unique piece "Albatross," which uses a parrot to sketch out the complexities of heartache and hope. Jennifer is also an editor for Hobart and runs an active book club on Twitter/X, where she continues to champion indie and transgressive authors. She is currently putting the finishing touches on a short story collection and has a novel ready for the right publisher. You can follow her work on Substack or connect with her on Twitter/X at @jrostopovich to join her upcoming book club discussions. Episode Links:Jennifer's websiteSubstackX: @jrostopovichFor more interviews visit Salt Lake Dirt.

⁠SLD MIXTAPE Special:⁠⁠Pain and Yearning with Leah Lawson⁠Musician ⁠Leah Lawson⁠ joined me for this episode of the Salt Lake Dirt Mixtape to talk about the themes of Pain and Yearning. We got into how music works as a "balm" or medicine for the human condition, helping people process complex emotions. We talked about the vulnerability of songwriting and how music that starts out as something personal often ends up being for everyone else. Leah mentioned she is a "lyrics-first" person when listening to a track, while I admitted I usually tune into the drums first. We also touched on finding new music, whether that's through word of mouth or falling down TikTok rabbit holes. ⁠Listen to the Full Playlist HERE⁠"In My Room" – Julia Wolfe"In Violet" - Searows"So What" – MUNA"Kill Her Freak Out" – Samia "Shutter Island" – Sasha Cee "Moon High" – Joshua Burnside "Nirvana" – Drew Danburry "Nobody" – Mitski Where to find Leah:Leah is online pretty much everywhere you stream music—⁠Spotify, ⁠⁠Bandcamp⁠, Apple Music, and Tidal. She's got a new record recorded that should be out late summer or early fall. ⁠LeahLawson.com⁠⁠IG: @llawson⁠

We are trying out a new format for some of our radio episodes on KPCR. I'll be inviting former guests back to the studio to act as guest DJs, curated around a specific theme for every episode. For those who want to listen on the go, these radio specials will now be available as a Spotify playlist.Episode 1: Heartbreak with Liv RylanMy first guest for this series is the incredible musician Liv Rylan. We decided to kick things off with a theme that is arguably the reason music was invented in the first place: Heartbreak.The Mixtape: "It Can't Be You" – Ash "You Are What You Love" – Jenny Lewis "Tough Act to Follow" – Maisie Peters "No Hard Feelings" – The Avett Brothers "17" – Keaton Henson Episode Links:Heartbreak with Liv Rylan playlistLivRylan.comListen to Liv on SpotifyIG: @livrylan

Ross Barkan's latest novel, Colossus, introduces us to Teddy Starr, a charismatic pastor and real estate mogul in small-town Michigan who embodies the quintessential American success story. Yet, beneath the polished veneer of his multimillion-dollar empire and "All-American" family life lies a calculated web of deception and a past he is actively outrunning. During our conversation, Ross noted that while Teddy is a man of God, he is equally a man of intense materialism, frequently justifying behavior—from his predatory business dealings in trailer parks to his secret personal life—that stands in direct opposition to his preached faith.What makes Colossus particularly gripping is the complex first-person narrative that forces the reader into Teddy's headspace. Barkan crafts a character who constantly justifies the objectively wrong, seducing the reader into his own internal logic. It is a compact, propulsive work that moves beyond typical contemporary trends to deliver a genuine, often unsettling persona. Ross described the writing process as a challenge in staying in character, much like an actor, to ensure the voice never breaks.Beyond the novel, we discussed Ross's work with the Metropolitan Review, a literary magazine he co-founded to provide a space for ambitious writing and democratic literary culture. The publication focuses on deep dives and reviews of new literature, often highlighting works that the larger conglomerate publishers might neglect. Whether you are interested in the shifting landscape of independent publishing or looking for a story that takes sharp, unexpected turns, this episode offers a deep dive into the craft of creating a character who thinks he is a "good guy" while harboring dark secrets.Thanks for listening!Kyler---Episode Links:PURCHASE ColossusRoss Barkan's SubstackThe Metropolitan ReviewVisit Salt Lake Dirt for more interviews

I recently sat down with author Victoria Hood to talk about her latest collection, Destroy Me, Desecrate My Bones. Victoria has a way of capturing the strange, often uncomfortable tensions of everyday life, and it was interesting to hear her talk about her "unapologetically weird" style and why she finds herself drawn to the "vibe" of a story—the mood and the setting—just as much as the plot itself. We also got into the realities of being a writer today, from the grind of submitting to literary journals to the importance of finding a community that supports your specific voice. Victoria shared some great insights into her creative process, including how she handles the "longing" that gives her book its title—the feeling of being in between places or identities. It was a very grounded, honest conversation about the work that goes into making art that doesn't always fit into a neat little box.Thanks for listening!Kyler---Episode Links:PURCHASE the bookPurchase on AmazonFollow Victoria on InstagramQueen City Scribes - InstagramVisit Salt Lake Dirt for more interviews

I had a great time talking with poet Dylan Krieger about her latest collection, No One Is Daddy. Dylan has such a sharp, singular voice, and we spent a lot of time talking about how she uses humor and linguistic play to navigate some pretty heavy themes like religious and patriarchal trauma. It was interesting to hear her perspective on the "Southern Gothic" identity and how growing up in a certain kind of environment shaped her need to push back against literal and figurative authority figures. She has a way of balancing high-level literary ideas with a raw, unpolished energy that fits right in with what we try to do here.We also talked about her creative process and how this book serves as a bit of a "divine comedy" that draws on her own family history and "auto-fictional" elements. Dylan isn't afraid to get a little heretical or uncomfortable, finding a weird kind of grace in the messy intersections of history and poetry. Whether you've followed her work since Giving Godhead or are just discovering her now, it was a really honest conversation with one of the most provocative minds writing today.Thanks for listening!Kyler---Episode Links:PURCHASE No One Is DaddyDylanKrieger.comIG: @dylanwkVisit SALT LAKE DIRT for more interviews

I recently had the chance to chat with author David Fishkind to talk about his new book, Don't Step Into My Office. I picked this book up about a month ago and it immediately grabbed me—it is exactly the kind of writing I dig, and I have a feeling a lot of you will feel the same way. David describes the book as a "maximalist" mix of neo-noir, murder mystery, and family dramedy. It follows a protagonist named Jacob Garlicker who stumbles into a murder on a beach in 2016 and then basically spends the next several years trying to forget it ever happened. We talked a lot about how the story bridges the gap between stylish, "affectless" fiction and a more driving, genre-heavy plot.One of the most interesting parts of our chat was David's honest take on the publishing world. After a rough experience a decade ago, he found a home at Arcade Publishing, which has quickly become one of my favorite publishers because they aren't afraid to put out incredible, unconventional books. We also dug into why it took five years between writing the first chapter and finishing the manuscript, a real-life time lapse that actually mirrors the timeline of the book itself. For the fellow book nerds listening, David dropped some heavy-hitting recommendations for the noir rabbit hole, citing names like Raymond Chandler, James Crumley, and Chester Himes as major influences on his style.If you want to grab a copy of the book, he suggests checking out Oblong Books—an independent shop in the Hudson Valley.Thanks for listening!Kyler---Episode Links:PURCHASE Don't Step Into My OfficePURCHASE through Oblong BooksDavid's Readlng List 2016-2025 (A Must!)Visit Salt Lake Dirt

I recently had the pleasure of sitting down with two of my favorite creators, Todd Hughes and Tim Kirk, for a special episode of Salt Lake Dirt. These two have such a unique history—they grew up together in California and have been collaborating on films since they were twelve years old. It was great to hear them reminisce about their early days shooting Super 8 shorts like Whopper, which surprisingly ended up being cited in a book on exploitation cinema decades later. Their chemistry is exactly what you'd expect from lifelong friends: full of hilarious stories, mutual respect, and a shared obsession with film history and indie culture.We spent a good chunk of time diving into the chaos they caused back in high school as editors of the Claremont High yearbook. Getting booed at their own graduation, they certainly left a mark. It was great to hear how those early years paved the way for their successful careers in documentaries and literature, leading all the way to the Cannes Film Festival. I'm convinced these two need to start their own podcast! Thanks for listening.Kyler---Episode Links:Todd's WebsiteTim's WebsiteTodd Hughes on Episode 86 of SLDTim Kirk on Episode 354 of SLDFor more on Salt Lake Dirt...

I've always loved reading as a way to step into another person's perspective, which is exactly why Natalie Davis's new memoir, Saying Yes: My Adventures in Polyamory, caught my eye. Natalie spent years writing legal briefs for the Department of Justice before pivoting to a much more vulnerable form of storytelling. What started as emails to a friend evolved into a decade-long chronicle of her transition from a traditional monogamous marriage into the world of consensual non-monogamy.We had a great conversation about the concept of "Relationship Anarchy"—the process of breaking down default social structures to intentionally rebuild them in a way that actually works for you. She's also doing important advocacy work regarding the legal stigmas that still surround non-monogamous families, who often lack basic workplace and housing protections.Great book, great chat! Thanks for listening.Kyler---Episode Links:PURCHASE Saying Yes: My Adventures in PolyamoryNatalie Davis AdventuresIG: @nataliedavisadventuresVisit SALT LAKE DIRT

Today I had the chance to sit down with V.N. Alexander to talk about her new novel, The Girlie Playhouse (Heresy Press 4.7.26) I completely devoured this book. It's a first-person account narrated by a dancer named Pixie, who is trying to make sense of her world and the memory of her mother. What really pulled me in wasn't just the setting of the cabaret, but the way Alexander handles the internal lives of these women. They aren't characters to feel sorry for; they are people with incredible agency who just happen to be working in a world that the rest of the public often treats like a caricature.One of the most fascinating parts of our conversation was learning that this book sat in a drawer for thirty years. Alexander wrote it decades ago, and hearing her talk about how the world has—and hasn't—changed since then was eye-opening. We got into the weeds on everything from the "culture clash" she felt moving from Texas to New York, to the way cell phones have completely killed the vibe of modern nightclubs. She even read a passage for us that perfectly captures that rare, meditative feeling of being completely lost in the moment while dancing.It's a great read, and our conversation touched on a lot more than just the plot. We talked about the obsessive nature of writing, her background in science, and why we're so quick to judge people based on their professions. It was one of those interviews where I felt like I really got to know the person behind the prose. Give the episode a listen to hear more about the "seven strippers" tabloid headline that inspired part of the plot and why she spent so much time crafting every single sentence.Thanks for listening!Kyler---Episode Links:VNAlexander.comPurchase The Girlie PlayhouseHeresy PressSalt Lake Dirt Links:SaltLakeDirt.comLinktree @saltlakedirt

Elle Nash - Episode 366Kyler sits down with author Elle Nash to discuss the practical side of maintaining a long-term writing career. Following the release of her most recent novel, Deliver Me, Elle shares her perspective on the creative process and the importance of pacing oneself to avoid hitting a wall. The conversation covers the realities of the publishing industry and the need to protect your mental energy while staying committed to the craft. Instead of focusing on the "hustle," they explore how to keep the work sustainable and why defining success on your own terms is essential for any artist. Thanks for listening!---Episode Links:ElleNash.netPurchase Deliver MeIG: @saderoticaSubstackPrevious SLD Episodes with Elle Nash:Episode 163 - Deliver MeEpisode 58 - Gag Reflex

In this episode of Salt Lake Dirt, Kyler reports from the 2026 Sundance Film Festival—the final year of the festival's historic run in Park City. Kyler sits down with actor and musician Aaron Conte to discuss his role in the episodic project The Screener, a series created by Jim Cummings and PJ McCabe that tackles the high-stakes world of white-collar crime and the protection of independent film. Beyond the new series, Aaron reflects on his roots in the 1990s New York music scene as a founding member of the band Nada Surf and shares how his background as a drummer eventually fueled his transition into acting.

On today's episode Kyler welcomes filmmaker Matthew Avant to discuss his compelling new documentary pilot, Roots and Relics. Inspired by his father's passion for history and a lifetime spent visiting historic sites, Matthew has created a show that focuses on the deep-seated stories behind family heirlooms. The conversation explores the project's origins, starting with Matthew's early days filming family interviews in 2001 and evolving into a series that uses unique artifacts as windows into the past.A central highlight of the discussion is the fascinating history of Blacktail Ranch, where Matthew filmed his pilot. He recounts the harrowing story of a 19th-century miner named Joe Baker, whose final words were discovered etched into a limestone rock after a grizzly bear attack—a "final text" from 1881 that now sits in a family museum alongside a 5-mile-deep cavern filled with 13,000-year-old artifacts. Beyond the history, Matthew shares insights into his creative process, working with host J.D. Hart, and his diverse background in sci-fi and horror filmmaking. Be sure to catch the screening of Roots and Relics at Dances with Films in New York City on Saturday, January 17th at 3:00 PM.---Episode Links:IG: @rootsandrelicstvMedia SavantDances with FilmsBlacktail Ranch

In this episode of Salt Lake Dirt, Kyler Bingham talks with award-winning biographer Carla Kaplan about her latest book, Troublemaker: The Fierce, Unruly Life of Jessica Mitford. Jessica Mitford, or "Decca," was a member of the famously eccentric British aristocracy who famously defected from her privileged upbringing to become a passionate Marxist and a legendary muckraking journalist in America. Kaplan discusses the fascinating and often dark history of the six Mitford sisters—whose lives spanned the political spectrum from Communism to Fascism—and how Decca used her "hold-your-sides funny" humor as a powerful tool for social activism. From her world-changing exposé of the funeral industry, The American Way of Death, to her tireless work against police brutality in Oakland, this conversation highlights how Mitford's relentless spirit and refusal to succumb to despair offer a vital roadmap for navigating the political tensions of the current moment.Thanks for listening!Episode Links:Purchase Troublemaker: The Fierce, Unruly Life of Jessica MitfordCarlaKaplan.com

In this episode of Salt Lake Dirt, Kyler Bingham sits down with actor and producer Shaun Wu to discuss his compelling new narrative pilot, Henry by the Hour, which is making its world premiere at Dances With Films in New York.Inspired by the real-world "rental family" services in Japan and the pervasive sense of modern isolation, Shaun explores the profound "beautiful sadness" of paid companionship. The series follows Henry, a professional "rental friend" who navigates the unique needs of his clients—ranging from a simple physical presence in a quiet room to playing the role of a boyfriend to satisfy family expectations.Thanks for listening!---Screening Information:If you are in New York City, catch the world premiere of Henry by the Hour:Date: January 17th 12:45 PMLocation: Regal Cinemas, Union Square 10Episode Links:Instagram: @shaunqwu & @henrybythehour

In this episode of Salt Lake Dirt, I'm joined by director Deborah Correa to discuss her new film, The War Between. Based on a story and novella by Ron Yungul, the film explores a lesser-known chapter of the American Civil War: the conflict within the Arizona Territory and New Mexico. Deborah shares the fascinating history behind the California Column, a volunteer force that pushed the Confederacy out of Southern California and Arizona, and discusses how the production achieved such striking authenticity by shooting on location in the exact areas where the historic Battle of Picacho Peak took place.We also dive into the logistics of pulling off an ambitious indie period piece on a 15-day shoot. Deborah highlights the importance of her collaborative team and the deep research that went into the film, including her commitment to working with Apache and Navajo consultants to ensure cultural reverence and accuracy.Thanks for listening!---The War Between is available now on Amazon, Fandango, and at thewarbetweenfilm.com

How does our awareness evolve, and what role does kindness play in that journey? Brian Joel Jolly (Evolving Awareness: Why Kindness Matters) joins Kyler to discuss consciousness and his unique take on the biblical creation story. It's a conversation about how we see the world, how we connect with one another, and why our perspective on "reality" changes everything. Great book, great chat!---Episode Links:Purchase Evolving AwarenessMakeLessNoise.com

Kyler welcomes back a long-time friend of the show, author Chip Jacobs. Chip is here to chat about his brand new novel, Later Days.The book is a personal one—it weaves together parts of Chip's own life and the moving story of his friend Tom, all set during their high school years.We dive deep into friendship, forgiveness, and how memory shapes us. Great book, great chat!Thanks for listening.---Episode Links:PURCHASE Later DaysChip's Website

This week, we sit down with filmmaker Joe D'Ovidio.Joe joins us to discuss his short film, A Drive at Dawn, which has been a strong presence on the festival circuit, including a run at the highly-regarded FilmQuest. Find Joe D'Ovidio on Instagram: @joe.dovidioThanks for listening!Kyler

Today on the show I welcome back Bruce Wagner. Bruce is one of my all-time favorite authors and he is here to talk about his latest novel AMPUTATION. "AMPUTATION is the first novel to be written about the inferno that obliterated two Los Angeles cities in January of 2025. Major characters are comedian Stephen Colbert; Karen Bass; a Timothée Chalamet stunt double; a fiercely pro-Palestinian heiress and her Zionist father; disgraced Grey's Anatomy writer Elisabeth Finch and a failed indie film producer—along with an assorted battalion of ordinary people, opportunists, and looters.A fable drenched in hyperrealism, AMPUTATION is a burnt jewel box showcasing Wagner's transcendent, scabrously poetic powers as he explores the lives (and deaths) of the fire victims, and the consequences of dereliction, delusion, incompetence—and impermanence." (Source: Arcade Publishing)"Thanks for listening!Kyler---Episode Links:Purchase AMPUTATIONBruceWagner.la---SLD Episodes with Bruce Wagner:Episode 273 - The Met Gala & Tales of Saints and SeekersEpisode 84 - ROAR: American MasterEpisode 53 - The Marvel Universe: Origin Stories

On this episode of Salt Lake Dirt, Kyler sits down with author and musician Daniel Gard'ner to talk about his novel, Desert Songs. Daniel shares how decades in the music industry led him to write this rock and roll L.A. noir, built around the characters Cash and Slim. It's a candid conversation about the reality of band dynamics, friendship, and the pressures of success—a fascinating look at the intersection of music, writing, and the artistic life. Great chat, great book! Thanks for listening.---Episode Links:Purchase Desert SongsFollow Daniel on Instagram

This week on Salt Lake Dirt, we welcome back the talented Gary Lippman to discuss his latest book, I Wish, Therefore I Am. In this episode, Kyler and Gary discuss the creative process behind the book, exploring the significance of titles and the role of wishes in our lives. Gary shares his insights on how he arrived at the catchy title and the unique structure of the book, which he affectionately refers to as his "kitchen sink book." Great book, great chat! Thanks for listening.---Episode Links:Visit Gary's WebsitePurchase I Wish, Therefore I AmPrevious Episodes with Gary:Episode 5Episode 74

This week on Salt Lake Dirt, we have the pleasure of welcoming Tim Kirk, author of the new novel, All His Damned Mother's Sons. In this episode, Kyler and Tim delve into the fascinating world of alternate history, exploring a timeline where Elvis Presley meets an untimely death during his military service in Germany. This pivotal moment sends shockwaves through the lives of four characters, particularly Billy Clover, who finds himself thrust into the limelight as the new Prince of Rock and Roll.Great book, great chat! Thanks for listening.---Episode Links:Visit Tim's WebsitePurchase All His Damned Mother's Sons

Salt Lake Dirt is wrapping up its coverage FilmQuest this week! FilmQuest is one of my favorite film festivals out there. Check it out!---2025 FilmQuestEpisode 353Film: The Waking CallGuest: Riccardo SurianoWatch the Trailer---On the Radio on 11/3/25KPCR 92.9FM Los GatosKMRT 101.9FM Santa CruzKVBE 91.9FM Portland, ORwww.kpcr.orgwww.saltlakedirt.com

This week on Salt Lake Dirt, we welcome back William Cooper to discuss his new novel, The Trial of Donald H. Rumsfeld. In this episode, Kyler and Will dive deep into the complex character of Rumsfeld, exploring the nuances of his personality and the historical context that shaped his decisions. Will shares how the events of September 11th sparked his interest in politics and led him to create a narrative that humanizes a figure often viewed as distant and unrelatable.As they discuss the book's themes, listeners will discover the intriguing concept of alternate history and how it allows for a fresh perspective on real-life figures. Will reveals his writing process, the challenges of portraying a controversial character, and the irony behind some of Rumsfeld's most famous quotes. This engaging conversation showcases the intricacies of human nature, the impact of ego on decision-making, and the lessons learned from history.---Episode Links:Visit Will's WebsiteSubscribe to Will's SubstackBooks and More with William Cooper---Previous Episodes with Will:Episode 305: A Quiet LifeEpisode 314: How America Works

Salt Lake Dirt is covering FilmQuest this week! FilmQuest is one of my favorite film festivals out there. ---2025 FilmQuestEpisode 351Film: Stomach ItGuest: Peter KlausnerIG: @stomachitfilmIG: @klausnerpeterLogline: While struggling to emotionally detach from the deceased, a crime scene cleaner believes a monstrous presence is toying with him.On the Radio on 11/17/25KPCR 92.9FM Los GatosKMRT 101.9FM Santa CruzKVBE 91.9FM Portland, ORwww.kpcr.orgwww.saltlakedirt.com

This week Kelly Cervantes joins me on Salt Lake Dirt. She is the author of the new memoir, The Luckiest: A Memoir of Love, Loss, Motherhood, and the Pursuit of Self. Kelly takes us on an emotional journey through her life, exploring the complexities of motherhood, the depths of grief, and the transformative power of love.Kelly shares the inspiration behind her memoir, which is beautifully structured around the metaphor of nesting dolls. She reflects on her experiences navigating the highs and lows of life, particularly the challenges faced when her daughter was diagnosed with epilepsy just as her husband achieved a career milestone. Kelly's vulnerability and honesty shine through as she discusses the importance of embracing all parts of oneself, including the painful chapters of life.We talk about themes of perfectionism and people-pleasing, as Kelly opens up about the pressures women face and the struggle to maintain a sense of self amidst societal expectations. With grace and insight, she encourages listeners to find compassion for their past selves and to recognize the beauty in their journeys.Thanks for listening!Kyler---Episode Links:PURCHASE The LuckiestVisit Kelly's WebsiteFollow Kelly on InstagramSubscribe to Kelly's SubstackCure EpilepsyUDNF.org

Salt Lake Dirt has been covering FilmQuest the past couple of weeks. FilmQuest is one of my favorite film festivals out there.  Enjoy these interviews!---2025 FilmQuestEpisode 349Film: The VanityGuest: Megan RosatiSYNOPSIS: In the near future, a young couple makes their living as influencers for a new social media platform: THE VANITY. But when THE VANITY upgrades to AI, the horrific visions it shows forces them to decide what matters most: their online following, or each other.IG: @thevanityfilmIG: @meganrosatimeganrosati.comOn the Radio on 11/3/25KPCR 92.9FM Los GatosKMRT 101.9FM Santa CruzKVBE 91.9FM Portland, ORwww.kpcr.orgwww.saltlakedirt.com

Today I welcome author Cairo Smith to discuss his new book, Scenebux. In this thought-provoking narrative, we follow Ben, a 25-year-old grappling with a quarter-life crisis in San Francisco as he embarks on a whirlwind adventure through a tech-driven world filled with eccentric characters and existential dilemmas.Cairo shares insights into his writing process, revealing how he meticulously crafted the plot and details that define Ben's journey. From his background in filmmaking to the unique blend of noir and picaresque storytelling, Cairo's passion for storytelling made for a fascinating episode. Thanks for listening!---Episode LinksVisit Cairo Smith's WebsitePurchase Scenebux on Amazon

Salt Lake Dirt is covering FilmQuest this week! FilmQuest is one of my favorite film festivals out there. 2025 FilmQuestEpisode 347Film: M.U.B. (Monster Under the Bed)Guest: Serena DykmanIG: @serena_dykmanwww.serenadykman.comSYNOPSIS: A one-night stand takes a surreal turn when a childhood Monster creeps from Under the Bed.---On the Radio on 11/3/25:KPCR 92.9FM Los GatosKMRT 101.9FM Santa CruzKVBE 91.9FM Portland, ORwww.kpcr.orgwww.saltlakedirt.com

This week on Salt Lake Dirt, we dive into the mind of author John Vines as he discusses his debut novel, The World is Angry. A geologist by career, John reveals how his passion for storytelling has led him to create a gripping psychological thriller that intertwines the lives of three friends with a chilling serial killer.Set against the backdrop of a haunting New Orleans, the story follows three protagonists as they confront their pasts while being pursued by a killer with a twisted rationale. As the narrative unfolds, the characters grapple with their own demons, leading to a suspenseful chase that keeps readers guessing who is truly hunting whom.John shares his writing process, from outlining chapters to the importance of setting aside dedicated time to write. He reflects on his inspirations, including the literary giants that have influenced his work, and discusses the balance between creativity and discipline in writing.Join us for an insightful conversation about the craft of writing. Thanks for listening!---Episode LinksInstagram: @johnvinesofficialPurchase The World is Angry on Amazon