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Julie and Corey are joined by Joe Tjosvold of Chezy based out of Fargo, ND to talk about digital media and specifically video content creation. The show starts with Julie and Corey talking about their learning process when creating video media and how they never tried to be perfect from the start. The plan was to adjust while they learned. After Joe joins, we learn about his video company and how he has created an affordable solution for small businesses to create video media. He talks about creating a sustainable model before the three discuss the value of video advertising. Joe leaves a tip at the end for anyone out there who is creating their own media. Check out Joe's work and connect with him via his website (www.chezy.com) Check out our latest course on time management: TIME B.O.M.B. (sb-pace.mykajabi.com/time-bomb) Follow our podcast on Instagram (@bizquik.podcast), and if you want to learn more about SB PACE, head on over to our website SBPACE.com. You can also find us on the following social media platforms: Facebook (SB PACE) Instagram (@sb.pace) LinkedIn (@sb-pace) Twitter (@sb_pace) YouTube (SB PACE) You can buy our book, Seriously? Now What?! A Small Business Guide to Disaster Preparedness, on Amazon. BizQuik is a Traxler-Harris production. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app

Primary ballots are in mailboxes now! Today friend of the show, former mayor of Seattle, and Executive Director of America Walks Mike McGinn joins Crystal on the show to discuss the front runners in the mayor's race, how candidates need to be making the case to the public in these remaining weeks before the primary, and the psychology and emotion that drives Seattle's voting decisions. And Mike delivers a fundamental election rule: Message quality multiplied by message delivery equals impact. As always, a full text transcript of the show is available below and at officialhacksandwonks.com. Find the host, Crystal Fincher on Twitter at @frinchfrii and find today's co-host, Mike McGinn, at @mayormcginn. More info is available at officialhacksandwonks.com.   Resources: “No incumbent in Seattle mayoral race, but candidates still running against City Hall” by Daniel Beekman: https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/no-incumbent-in-seattle-mayoral-race-but-candidates-still-running-against-city-hall/  “Poll shows many voters still undecided, Bruce Harrell leading race for Seattle mayor” by Daniel Beekman: https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/poll-shows-many-voters-still-undecided-bruce-harrell-leading-race-for-seattle-mayor/  “For the first time in years, there are 2 serious candidates for the King County executive” by David Guttman: https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/race-for-king-county-executive-pits-experienced-well-funded-candidates-against-each-other/  “Seattle's mayoral candidates have plans for homelessness, but they're staring at an uncertain future” by Scott Greenstone: https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/homeless/seattles-mayoral-candidates-have-plans-for-homelessness-but-theyre-staring-at-an-uncertain-future/  “The C Is for Crank: Correcting the Record on Compassion Seattle” by Erica C. Barnett: https://publicola.com/2021/07/13/the-c-is-for-crank-correcting-the-record-on-compassion-seattle/  Publicola Elections Coverage: https://publicola.com/category/elections/ South Seattle Emerald Elections Coverage: https://southseattleemerald.com/tag/2021-elections/ We the People Power Voter Guide: https://www.wethepeoplepower.org/voter-guide-2021   Primary Elections Endorsements: The Stranger: https://www.thestranger.com/news/2021/07/14/59065522/the-strangers-endorsements-for-the-august-3-2021-primary-election  The Seattle Times: https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/who-supports-who-in-seattle-elections-endorsements-roll-in-for-mayoral-council-races/  The Urbanist: https://www.theurbanist.org/2021/06/28/the-urbanists-2021-primary-endorsements/  350 Seattle Action: https://350seattleaction.org/2021-elections    Transcript: Crystal Fincher: [00:00:00] Welcome to Hacks & Wonks. I'm Crystal Fincher, and I'm a political consultant and your host. On this show, we talk with policy wonks and political hacks to gather insight into local politics and policy in Washington State through the lens of those doing the work with behind-the-scenes perspectives on what's happening, why it's happening and what you can do about it. Full transcripts and resources referenced in the show are always available at officialhacksandwonks.com and in our episode notes. Today, we're continuing our Friday almost-live shows where we review the news of the week with a co-host. Welcome back to the program, friend of the show and today's co-host: activist, community leader, former mayor of Seattle, and Executive Director of America Walks - and a fire Twitter follow also, the excellent Mike McGinn. Mike McGinn: [00:00:59] Yeah, you can find me on Twitter @mayormcginn. I just can't let go of that handle - it's just too good. But I'm really many years past it now, so thanks for having me on the show, Crystal. Crystal Fincher: [00:01:11] No, absolutely. But you know what, you're always there to provide context and an informed opinion - and it's usually insightful, and useful, and often spicy. We get spicy McGinn a lot of times, and I like it. Mike McGinn: [00:01:25] I'm not running for anything anymore so I'm just pure truthteller mode. No, 95% pure truthteller mode. I pull some punches. I do pull some punches still, Crystal. Crystal Fincher: [00:01:35] Well, what I want to talk about is - ballots should be in your hands today, tomorrow. If you're listening to this, ballots are arriving in Washington State for primary elections. So it's a big deal. We've seen a wave of endorsements be released from major political organizations, media organizations - both The Times and The Stranger. So it is now time to vote - a lot that we've been talking about, all the candidates that we have been talking about - now the rubber is hitting the road and communication plans are in full effect. Mailers are hitting mailboxes, commercials are on TV, digital ads are all over the place, so how are you seeing this race standing right now, Mike? Mike McGinn: [00:02:23] Mayor's race - I think at this point we're really down to three viable candidates - is where I would start. You can look at - fundraising numbers is one way to look at it, major endorsements is another. And Bruce Harrell has the Seattle Times and in early polling, he was what, at 17% or 18% or something like that, which is when you think about it, kind of low for an incumbent, somebody that the City knows. He's not incumbent in the office, but for being known. Lorena González has The Stranger endorsement and lots of labor endorsements, got a big IEC from labor coming out. The theme of her campaign is her personal resume primarily is what she's running on. But she has the drag of being from the City Council. I don't know whether it's 29 or 39 City councilmembers that have run for mayor, and only Norm Rice actually pulled it off. And he had the tailwind of the Rainbow Coalition from Jesse Jackson running for president. And when he announced that coalition, that was the following year from the Jesse Jackson race, and he just vaulted in. And also a very skilled elected official. I mean, "Mayor Nice"? Who gets that nickname, "Mayor Nice"? Crystal Fincher: [00:03:44] You didn't get that nickname? Mike McGinn: [00:03:51] [Laughter]. And the other thing is - when you look at it is the right track, wrong track numbers in the City have been off the charts on all of the polls that have come out to date. And so if you're associated with what's been going on, that's going to give you a headwind. I think that the third candidate in the race and full disclosure, I've endorsed Colleen Echohawk in the race. She's talking about the issue that people say is the most important one - homelessness - that comes out on top of almost every poll. That's the focus of her campaign. She organically raised a lot of money through vouchers - got there first, didn't have to hire people to collect them as opposed to the other candidates, and is the outsider. The other candidates in the race are credible and have been treated as credible, but I think at this stage when you look at the fundraising numbers and the endorsements, I think it's going to be very hard for Andrew Grant Houston or Jessyn Farrell or Casey Sixkiller to come out of this primary with where they stand right now - the combination of institutional endorsers, dollars, message and political base that they're bringing into it. Crystal Fincher: [00:05:10] So based on the polling that's come out, a number of people are looking at this as, okay, on the - conservative and progressive are different when used in Seattle than when used in outside of Seattle- Mike McGinn: [00:05:24] Let's use right lane, left lane. Crystal Fincher: [00:05:26] Right lane candidate being - looks like it's going to be Bruce Harrell, by polling and indications there, it appears to be that he is leading the right lane. And the left lane as you just talked about, it looks to be Lorena González, with potential Colleen Echohawk on her heels. How are both making the case that they can run against a right lane candidate and when? Mike McGinn: [00:05:59] Well, and that's interesting. Part of the reason I think Bruce - well, the right lane always consolidates more than the left lane. It's like that Will Roger's joke about, "I don't belong to any organized party. I'm a Democrat." So the left is never powerfully organized and the right tends to consolidate. The other right lane candidates didn't really take off. And the left lane candidates all have a little more juice in them. And actually, given that Jessyn decided to endorse the Compassion Seattle Initiative, I'm not sure what lane she's in at this point, but both. Crystal Fincher: [00:06:32] Well, and I think that's been a problem for her. Mike McGinn: [00:06:34] Yeah, I think that's been a problem for her because this is a year that unlike prior years in which you had the Chamber of Commerce uniting with the King County Labor Council to decide on a candidate - that's what they did with Durkan, that's what they did with Murray. We're now back to - that's what they did with Mallahan, as I think about it. Right, and I got some union support but the Labor Council and a lot more of the unions went with Mallahan because labor was for the tunnel. Labor was for the tunnel and I actually heard from service worker unions that ended up endorsing him and they said, "We're taking a risk, all of our brothers and sisters are mad at us for supporting you because they really want the tunnel." Crystal Fincher: [00:07:15] That tunnel. Mike McGinn: [00:07:17] Yeah, that tunnel. So even though I was clearly the candidate for transit and working people against what I believed was a corporate bureaucrat who was running in the right lane, they still went with him. You still see that happening in politics today. The construction unions still have a lot of influence. So do the firefighters - they're quite conservative. And the Labor Council. In this case, we don't have that - where the Labor Council and the Chamber are ordaining a leader. So we're seeing a business backing Bruce - they're consolidating behind Bruce. You're seeing labor consolidating behind Lorena, but you're not seeing all of the progressive left consolidating behind Lorena. You see it breaking up into more pieces there. So the argument as to, against Bruce, is insider versus outsider. And I think that's going to be a huge challenge for Lorena in the general - right track, wrong track numbers. It's about the mayor but it's also about the Council. I ran in 2013 and I wanted the electorate to say, "Well, if you see conflict between the mayor and Council, look at what people are advocating and pick the person on the right side. By the way, that's me." That was my argument. But if you're close to City Hall, you might be able to do that - but people who are further away, they paint everybody with the same broad brush and it can be hard to distinguish yourself. And I just think that when you look at the polling to date and how low Lorena's numbers have been for somebody who's run city-wide multiple times, it really suggests she still has to go out and get a lot of votes. You probably got to get to 25% or so to get out of the electorate. So she's got to get from wherever she's starting - a long way. Everybody does, and Bruce has a shorter path to get there, but everybody's got to go a long way and the question becomes, does Lorena have a ceiling because of the negativity towards the City Council? Crystal Fincher: [00:09:34] That's a really interesting question. I guess the variable that I'm also looking at in this is looking at candidates independently. It's always a different scenario than looking at them head-to-head with another candidate. Bruce, also being an insider, does that neutralize that whole insider argument? Really, and to be real, Colleen is a former head of the Downtown Seattle Association-ider. So it's not like she's a radical outsider. Mike McGinn: [00:10:03] I don't think she was the head of the Downtown Seattle Association. Crystal Fincher: [00:10:05] Was previously. Mike McGinn: [00:10:07] I think she was just on the Board, but maybe I'm wrong. Crystal Fincher: [00:10:09] On the Board, on the Board. Mike McGinn: [00:10:10] She was on the Board, right. But just for the record, that's a spot that's given to the Chief Seattle Club. They are automatically on it because they are downtown and the DSA wanted a homeless provider on their Board. Crystal Fincher: [00:10:22] Which is the case for a lot of different organizations. They have different spots there but also not known as a left-leaning organization at the same time. So looking at their policies and being associated with that from a policy standpoint does not quite paint the picture of an outsider in the way that a lot of people think of outsiders in terms of politics. A lot of people would view that as a more establishment qualification on the resume, but neither here nor there. I think the bigger point I was making is that - does the fact that Bruce was formerly a Seattle City Council member, briefly mayor also - does that negate an insider argument if both people are former Councilmembers within Seattle-elected government, or does that more even the playing field and get to more of an issue-based stuff, or does the insider versus outsider argument still carry? Mike McGinn: [00:11:22] I think that Bruce carries that baggage too. He's helped by the fact that he's been off the Council a couple of years, but he does carry that baggage too. There's no question about that. I think if the question is how would Lorena - if Bruce has consolidated the right lane and people are fighting for the left lane, the question becomes how would Lorena do against Bruce in a head-to-head and how would Colleen Echohawk do in a head-to-head? And I'll bet you, that in those types of heads, Colleen would do a lot better than Lorena. I would bet you that. But of course, we're only going to get to run one of these. That's the way it works. But if there were polling done, I bet you what those head-to-heads would show as well. Crystal Fincher: [00:12:10] Always an interesting conversation on if there was polling done. And one of the things that we both have browsers refreshing right now is that the Northwest Progressive Institute, NPI, is actually going to be releasing public polling in the Seattle City Council, the mayoral races, several Seattle races. So that's going to be interesting to see actual public polling come out. They anticipated it being near the end of this week. Let's see if that actually comes out today. It wouldn't surprise me if it wound up being early next week, but we certainly are keeping our eyes on it. Mike McGinn: [00:12:47] I also think you have to take a look at the messaging of the candidates. Bruce's messaging is, "I'm a decisive leader. I know how to get things done." That's also Lorena's messaging - "I'm a decisive leader, I know how to bring people together to get things done. And look at my resume, I'm a progressive." Colleen's message is, "I've dedicated my life to helping homeless people in Seattle, and I'm an expert on homelessness which is the most important issue in the city." And I think that the headwind that both Lorena and Bruce face in the general is that they're saying that they know how to get things done, but the public says, "Yeah, but you had your shot." And that's the biggest headwind that both of them will face in the general election. Crystal Fincher: [00:13:35] Yeah. I'm also curious to see how much attention is paid to their donors and what their donors say. Because one, I think - continuing issue that we have in Seattle elections is ignoring that, and then being surprised that candidates vote pretty consistently in line with where many of their donors are at. That does not mean that their votes are necessarily bought. It just may mean that, "Hey, people see someone who has values that they feel are similar, that they feel is representing them." Not necessarily that they're buying it but that they see kinship there. And it really is telling where corporate interests see their candidate, and where labor and progressive interests see their candidate. And looking at the overlap between where major donors to Ed Murray, major donors to Jenny Durkan - and then look to see where those are at in the current races - a lot of them with Bruce Harrell. So is what we're signing up for really different if the traditional backers, if the coalition of donors looked similar to a profile of prior coalitions of donors? I wish we paid more attention to that in Seattle politics. Mike McGinn: [00:14:58] I agree. And clearly the kind of the business side donor class is consolidating behind Bruce and they're going to have an independent expenditure for him. Labor is consolidating behind Lorena and they're going to have a big independent expenditure campaign for her. And it's hard to cross your base. It's hard to tell your base they're wrong. That's like an axiom of politics and you're absolutely right. It's not that it's pre-negotiated or bought, but it becomes hard. And we saw that in play with Lorena when the police contract came up and the King County Labor Council urged a Yes vote on the contract, Lorena voted Yes on the contract because that's what labor wanted at the time, and the Community Police Commission wanted a No vote on that. We saw it very recently with the vehicle license fee. A stakeholder group came forward and said 75% of the $20 vehicle license fund, like $7 million a year - real money, but not big money in infrastructure. And the climate advocates and the alternative transportation advocates asked for, so the Council respect that. And labor said, "No, put it into bridges." The laborers, the carpenters and the King County Labor Council went down and said, "Nope, take the money from walking, biking and transit, put it into a bond for bridge repair." And that's basically what Lorena did on that one as well. So you get the situation where the base, the people that pay for your elections - it gets hard to cross them on tough issues, on high profile issues. Crystal Fincher: [00:16:47] I would just ask that as people are voting, consider that. Consider where their base is and what their history is of voting in line or not in line with those considerations. And certainly I know a number of people who agree with Lorena on a number of issues and that issue for a lot of people is the most challenging one. It's like, "Oh, but that police contract vote." is a sticking point for a number of - particularly further left-leaning progressives and where they're having a challenge in there. But there's issues with that with every single candidate almost - although I did - someone referred to Andrew Grant Houston as - what did they call him - the Elizabeth Warren of the race because he has a plan for everything, like well thought out and well organized. But I would say, aside from him, most - just anecdotally, a lot of people are like, "I love this candidate except for major issue where there was a problematic vote or a problematic issue." Jessyn, it's Compassion Seattle. With Lorena, it's that police vote. People got stuck with Colleen on the initial indication of support for Compassion Seattle, which she later said she's not going to be voting for and she does not support. But that gave people a lot of pause. So there's a number of those with candidates. Mike McGinn: [00:18:16] And I think over on the progressive side, that's absolutely right, and there's a little bit of - kind of arguing over who's in fact the most progressive. Although I think we can say that all of them have very strong progressive credentials. You don't represent homeless downtown, or come from Lorena's background and she's done great things in other areas. But clearly, your point about labor is good. By the way, Bruce Harrell voted for that contract too. And Colleen asked for them to vote No. It's an interesting thing getting elected as I did in '09 without a lot of institutional endorsements. It meant that I actually had a lot more freedom of movement. Everybody was trying to figure out where I would land. At the same time, I also didn't have a whole cadre of people behind me who were looking to back me up and stand up for me when I got in. Crystal Fincher: [00:19:14] That is the thing. Mike McGinn: [00:19:15] It's an interesting mix. But it really did - people were really wondering when I got in, in 2010, well, where is he going to land? Because in the primary- Crystal Fincher: [00:19:25] I was one of those wondering in 2010 where you were going to land. Mike McGinn: [00:19:25] On the other hand, it gave me - it meant that I didn't - this is going to sound a little trite, but honestly, my biggest concern was responding to the voters because I had gone around the institutional endorsers for the most part to get to win. The Stranger endorsement was big, and I picked up some service worker unions and other individual endorsements but nothing like anybody else in the race did. So that makes a difference in governance as well as you pointed out. Crystal Fincher: [00:20:01] Yeah, absolutely. And to be clear, the City of Seattle races are not the only races happening. We have a number of races. One, King County Executive race where certainly the two front runners are Dow Constantine, the incumbent who's been there and certainly in a strong position, versus Senator Joe Nguyen. What's you're read on where that stands right now? Mike McGinn: [00:20:23] It's hard to say. I think that Dow, after 12 years in office, is going to be facing the same time for a change sentiment. But I think Joe has to make the case for change. I think if you look at - and Joe Nguyen has got a great progressive record in the legislature and you can hear his values when he speaks. Dow has to explain the Youth Jail, he has to explain the Mariners Skyboxes, he has to explain the bailout of the Convention Center. He's got to defend his record and explain why he is the agent of making things happen now after 12 years based on where things stand. So I think that's going to be a big challenge for him. I think that is somewhat of a lower profile race. It doesn't necessarily deserve to be a lower profile race. It just is - the mayor's race is going to use up a lot more of the media coverage than the County Exec race will. So Joe has to make the case. He's got to aggressively pursue the change argument and what his values were. But it can happen. Look at Girmay vs Larry Gossett - it can happen. People can make a decision that it's time for a change even if they're not particularly angry at the incumbent, but they just think that the incumbent isn't delivering to their expectations of what they want to see at that time. Crystal Fincher: [00:21:59] Yeah. This is going to be an interesting race to see, especially at the primary point. I think looking at the point where Joe Nguyen got into this Executive's race - before he got in, Dow, obviously incumbent not challenged by major Democratic candidate before that, was running away with all of the endorsements. After Joe declared, they've really split most of the endorsements. It has not been strong one way or the other. They've really been splitting a lot or just blocking each other's endorsements. There isn't enough for a consensus in a lot of places. So I think the insider, more activist, more involved, and people who pay attention to those stuff all the time - which is a small percentage of people - are indicating that they view this certainly as a race. It's a whole different thing than communicating with voters who don't pay attention across an entire county. That's a heavy lift, a really heavy lift. And so for me, the question is can Joe Nguyen communicate that same kind of thing that makes the insider race competitive county-wide before the primary? Certainly, they have a lot more time for the general, assuming he makes it through which he should. But man, that's a lot of communication to people who don't pay attention. Mike McGinn: [00:23:29] Who will be low information voters, right - which is why that kind of background, that insider or outsider thing takes on a larger influence in races like this. It comes in and they already have a frame for deciding the race. And what you were just talking about is something I call the "perception primary". Some people might call it the "money primary". But it's not just money - it's a perception and it's spread by the insiders. And the thing about the perception primary is that people can be entirely wrong, in the perception primary. And that's, I think, one of the things you're highlighting here. Again, I'll go back to my own experience. In 2009, Greg Nickels had almost all the major endorsements and a lot of money. And the idea that he was vulnerable was actually the reason that I could get in the race. Nobody else would get in the race. He couldn't be beat. So the perception primary was keeping people out of the race. They said, "Well, we can't win the perception primary. We can't even get out of the perception primary." So I think that's always a challenge for a candidate is - can you survive the perception primary and I barely did. I barely did, let's be really clear about that. But I did survive it, but then once you got into the actual primary, I took first place. So I think there's a thing that happens where we all get sucked into the perception of the race. So clearly, Joe has political insiders or the politicos, whatever you want to call them. People are like, "Yeah, Joe has got a shot." But now, he's got to take his case to the voters. That's a very perceptive observation. And the same thing is true - I'll circle back to the mayor's race. There was a whole lot, I was doing a whole lot of - same thing happened in my '09 race. Remember when Jan Drago, a longtime City Councilmember got in the race, it was almost literally a headline of "Now it's a real race". Well, her highest polling numbers were the day she got in. And the two highest vote getters in the primary were two people who had never been in office before, me and Mallahan. So that was a case where the perception primary was just way off. And mayor's race, there's been a perception primary but this is a remarkably wide open race, more wide open than I think we've ever seen in my time watching. Crystal Fincher: [00:25:57] It's pretty wide open. One thing that we talked about in terms of, hey, who appears to be leading here based on polling - the leading vote getter in polling is Undecided, really at this point- Mike McGinn: [00:26:10] By a lot. We are engaging in some of that perception primary stuff too by saying message, dollars, institutional support should lead to votes based on what we know. But we could be wrong - because the nature - yeah. The biggest leader right now is Undecided. So, once the paid media lands and once the media decides how they're going to frame up the race in the last few weeks - will really decide which candidates can propel a little bit and get to that finish line. Maybe they're starting in a different place to get to the finish line. I think two weeks before the ballots drop, I was polling 7% in the mayor's race, ended up at 28%. And Greg Nickels was polling at 22% and he ended up at 25%. So, he spent a lot of money, it just didn't move his numbers because he was in a context where he just couldn't. And I was. And in 2017, I said, "I'm going to do this again," and the exact opposite happened. I started with a higher number and I went down because these people heard about the other candidates and they wanted someone new. So, it really drove home to me just how important the context of the race is, not what the early polls show. It all happens when the money drops and when the voters start paying attention - what movement do you start seeing then? That really happens. Crystal Fincher: [00:27:48] Yeah. Now is when the race for real regular people begins. A lot of people realize that the race is happening once they get their ballot in the mail. It's like, "Oh, this is a thing." And usually along with their ballots, they're getting four mailers a day from here on out most of the time. So, it's going to be real interesting to see how effectively people can get their message across. And that's not an easy thing to do. It takes - you have to penetrate people's consciousness at multiple points, multiple times - in order to make a real impression. And so that takes - certainly a significant budget and just good message execution. Mike McGinn: [00:28:40] Well, good message too. That was part of the point I was making about '09. But I really learned it in 2007 when I worked on the - Roads and Transit campaign. So, to refresh people's memory, the legislature decided to - that a regional Roads and Transit ballot would go in front of the public in 2007. And it included money for light rail but it also included money for highway expansion. And the Sierra Club - we decided to fight it because we believed it was bad for global warming. And I think we got the Cascade Bicycle Club with us and no other institutional endorsers. A few elected officials joined us late. But it was all the elected officials, business, labor, most of the environmental groups supported the Roads and Transit ballot measure. They said it's the only chance to get light rail. They had $5 million to spend and the polling had them at like 56%. They ended up, I think, at 44% on election night. And we spent about $50,000. We had no money, but we had a really good message. And they spent $5 million, they didn't have a good message. So, here you go. I now feel like I'm in Marco Lowe's Politics class. It's a mathematical equation, it's really simple. It's Message x Message Delivery = Impact. And if your message is - it's the only math you have to know in this. If you got an awesome message and zero delivery, no impact. And if you got a billion dollars of delivery and your message is a zero, zero times a billion dollars is still zero impact. It's both. You got to have a good message. You got to deliver it. And now, we're going to find out who's got the message in these races that actually moves voters. Crystal Fincher: [00:30:40] Yeah. And a lot to learn from it and that will certainly inform how the message is developed in a general election. Certainly, your race - a number of races - have been instructive just for me personally in terms of how effective a message can be. But in a singular rallying issue, certainly you and transit- Mike McGinn: [00:31:02] Kshama and 15 in her race- Crystal Fincher: [00:31:06] Yeah. And Kshama was the other one - 15 Now. Mike McGinn: [00:31:10] 15 Now, yeah. And I think that- Crystal Fincher: [00:31:12] That was huge. That was very instructional for me. Mike McGinn: [00:31:15] I think that Bernie Sanders got into that first race against Hillary Clinton, thinking he was just going to be a message candidate. I mean somebody to carry this message and use the race as a way to distribute a message. And he discovered his message about the power of Wall Street and the power of billionaires was really powerful. And all of a sudden, he was in a real race. The reporters say he didn't think that was going to happen and maybe if he'd realized that sooner, he might have won that one. Because you want to race differently when you're trying to deliver a message and when you're trying to win. But it's another example of how someone can have tremendous amount of institutional support, but somebody can come in with a better message and lap 'em, or at least give them a good run. Crystal Fincher: [00:32:04] Well, Obama versus Hillary was message versus establishment. Mike McGinn: [00:32:08] Great example of that. And so it's not necessarily about experience, or resume. It's about what the voters are looking for right then in a candidate. And you can run a race that - it's the context that's going to decide it, ultimately, more than the candidates. Crystal Fincher: [00:32:33] Voting is an emotional decision. Voting is not a logical decision. And to your point, it really is about how you can connect, how your message and the vision that you're painting connects with voters. And if you can tap into what they're feeling, both their frustrations and their aspirations, that is the key. Like - "We don't have to be here. We can be in a better place. I can bridge that gap and get us there." Make that connection to the voters - that sticks. And helping to have, I think, in your case and Kshama's case and certainly looking nationally in Obama's case, but on a local level with a number of people, to be able to paint a very clear image of where you can go. You were very clear on your vision. Kshama was very clear on her vision, to the point like other people have no problem repeating and defining where you stand. And I actually think that's kind of the crux of where people have challenges with candidates. It's like, "Okay, explain the candidate to me." And if they have a hard problem doing that, that's a problem for the candidate. They need to be able to say, "Oh, Kshama is 15 Now candidate. Mike is the transit candidate." Mike McGinn: [00:33:56] The fact that I rode a bike actually delivered a lot of message. I was an environmentalist who cared about transit and walking and biking and alternatives. Those things really mattered. And if your supporters can't explain why you're running, you have a problem because so many votes are actually gained by your supporters carrying the message on your behalf. So, it's got to be really simple - people complain about sound bites and I understand, because they feel like it oversimplifies the issues, but the reality of somebody running for office or running an advocacy campaign is they have to be able to boil their message down and express it in a way that actually has impact and conveys meaning to people. It's a lot harder than it looks to do that. It's a lot harder and I think people don't fully appreciate the role that a few words can play in delivering a message that moves voters, or moves people to action in an advocacy campaign. I think of "Defund the Police", everybody is picking on Defund the Police - that it hurts Democrats, and it may well hurt Democrats. But that wasn't a message invented by Democrats to a bunch of people in swing districts. That was a message invented by activists to call attention to the role of policing America. And by that measure, it seemed like a whole lot of people were repeating their message. And again- Crystal Fincher: [00:35:38] A whole lot of people repeating the message functionally. In several areas, including here in Seattle, more movement both in rhetoric and in policy than we have seen in the past 20 to 30 years in most instances. And a clear delineation between action that is inconsequential and what is just rhetoric - like a reform conversation - versus Defund is a clear bright line of if we aren't addressing the resources involved with this, if we're just tinkering around the edges of maybe some trading and stuff, that that actually is not getting us where we need to go. Mike McGinn: [00:36:17] And I think that is just completely on point, Crystal. It came from a constituency that's been yelling for decades, if not longer, at not being heard. And somebody is now hearing the message and having to confront it and respond to it - the criticism that, "Well, it's not a perfect message and it might hurt somebody else over there," that's kind of a secondary concern to the activist who's been ignored already. Crystal Fincher: [00:36:45] 100%. 100%. Mike McGinn: [00:36:47] Now having said that, I've noticed that that's not a prominent phrase in this year's City Council or mayoral elections. Crystal Fincher: [00:36:57] No - no it's not. Mike McGinn: [00:36:58] But it served its purpose in the moment and now people have to move and find a different way to try to move the debate. And actually, I think that is- Crystal Fincher: [00:37:05] But it actually set the stage for the debate that we're having now - and determine the lanes and set the parameters. So now, there are discussions about what percentage of funding, how're we going to divert. And so it's not an explicitly Defund conversation - but starts with where are the resources, what are we doing with the actual funds, what are the budget numbers and items. And so kind of like talking about the bridge, or the tunnel - the tunnel, the tunnel, the tunnel was an issue that stood for a whole set of policies. Mike McGinn: [00:37:43] It stood for climate. It stood for using tax dollars wisely. It stood for equity - that transit was a better investment than highways. All of that was in play there. Boy, it kind of takes me to another topic I hesitate to bring it up, but there's a little bit of a test. This year is a test. Two years ago was a test too of where is the electorate right now on a lot of these things. The Compassion Seattle Initiative is an example of that. Now, it's written in such a way that people can see things in it that aren't there or not see things in it that are there. The vote is happening. It's become a little bit of a litmus test for left to right, but not completely. I saw former City Attorney Mark Sidran speaking up - I saw an article he was speaking up at a Belltown forum - saying you can't support Compassion Seattle, it's too lenient on the homeless. So, I think this why I'm laughing because there's such a swirl around this issue. But I think that's kind of one of the issues out here - is homelessness is clearly the most important issue in the city right now. That's what's showing up on the polls, and that's what people care about. But then you have to dig a layer deeper, what does that mean? What kind of city are we? Do we go to, "Yeah, so we need to build more housing," or do we get to, "We need to kick them off the streets and parks"? And that's the other thing that's kind of really very much in play this year. And the fact that Compassion Seattle is on the ballot and who's backing it - now that we see who's backing it, now that its contours become a little more clear - you can see that in a way it's designed to try to boost voter turnout of those who might vote for the right lane candidate. Crystal Fincher: [00:39:50] Absolutely. Mike McGinn: [00:39:50] That's what it feels like to me. This is a political ploy more than a reasoned solution. And we declared an emergency on these six years ago, for crying out loud, but we haven't really treated it like an emergency in that six years. It was just - and there's only so many task forces or government structures and emergency resolutions you can pass before the public goes, "Well, what the hell are you going to do?" And that's really a big issue. Is it a progressive response to homelessness or not a progressive response to homelessness? That's going to be a task for the Seattle electorate in the City this year. I know which side I come out on, and I hope the City comes out on the right side of that too. Crystal Fincher: [00:40:34] Yeah. I mean it is in reality. And Erica Barnett, in PubliCola, actually did a great piece this week on - what do its advocates say versus what does the text actually say? They're very different things. It is clearly not a progressive policy. It is clearly being, trying to be - it's dressed up in progressive clothing - from the name on down and what they're saying. So, it will be very interesting to see, but that's one of those where the simple messaging on that - the easiest way to message, the simplest way to message is very deceptive and it makes it seem like, "Hey, this is finally going to do something and take care of something and people who don't just want to see people swept. But hey, there's money for this and they're going to help." You can message all of that in a way that a lot of media organizations are carrying without question, and the text doesn't jive with what their messaging is. Mike McGinn: [00:41:38] I have a sense that the confusion about what it really means will hurt it in the same way that it hurts many initiatives. That initiatives always often suffer from the public response if it's not well thought out, it's not well-thought through, that the legislative process enables things to be a more nuanced approach. And I think that that is going to be a drag for the proponents of this getting it through, which is good, from my perspective. But even so, its level of popularity overall even without those negatives of we're not quite - maybe it's not built right, maybe it's got some bad provisions in it, maybe it's not well-thought through. I still think the level of support is going to be so high, even if it fails, that it kind of shows how fed up people are with no action from government on this issue. Crystal Fincher: [00:42:37] I agree with that. The issue is that people are so tired of this problem not being taken care of. It's been declared a crisis in overlapping jurisdictions - that it's been the top priority - and people have seen the issue get worse, not better. So, it is something. It's doing something, and some people I think are just willing to say, "Well, it's time to do something, and we've seen politicians dither for years. And so we have to do something." That is the challenge, I think the biggest challenge. Mike McGinn: [00:43:10] I don't know whether it passes or fails. Even though I was kind of leaning on it, I think it might fail, but I also think it might pass. Back then, maybe here's a close. Maybe we've reached the end. I think that that we have to do something kind of feeds back to the County Exec race we talked about, feeds back to the mayor's race - how that will affect people that were more in the position to do something and those that weren't. And even how it affects the race between Nikkita, Sara Nelson, and Brianna Thomas. Granted, none of them are incumbents but one worked for a City Councilmember and one is clearly the right lane and one is clearly the left lane. Crystal Fincher: [00:43:52] Technically, two have worked for City Councilmembers, but Brianna currently- Mike McGinn: [00:43:56] Oh that's true - Sara did for many years. I shouldn't say that, but Brianna more recently. Actually true - Sara worked for City Councilmembers for quite a long time and was working for Councilmember Conlin when I was mayor and we interacted with her quite a bit. So, yeah, I think that this overarching sense is something that's going to be feeding into all of the races and what's the power of that - given the specific people in the race and their personalities and their platforms and their supporters and their messaging - remains to be determined in each one. But I think it's a powerful driver in all of the races. Crystal Fincher: [00:44:32] Yeah, I agree with that. I think people are fed up and impatient at the moment. For what is the question - they are unhappy with where things are at. Most people do feel like things are on the wrong track for one reason or another. And so what to do with that is the question. Mike McGinn: [00:44:53] Never seen wrong track numbers this high, never seen them this high in my years of following it. It's really astounding numbers on the wrong track. Well, let's Crystal, you and me, we're trying to get the City on the right track in our own ways. And maybe not everybody agrees with our ways, but I'm for all the people out there fighting to make it get it back on the right track. So, maybe we'll lead back with everybody. Crystal Fincher: [00:45:21] Yeah, I'm with you. Getting things on the right track, taking action. I do think people have to - I do think people owe an explanation, who have been in power - an accounting of what they have done with that power. And I think that we are seeing in a lot of different places - certainly, with - Republicans are not hesitant to use whatever power they have and wield it in whatever way they can. I think a lot of frustration with Democrats is that a lot of people say, "Hey, you have the power to enact so much change and not much is happening," and feeling frustration with that. Certainly, that's not universal. Republican inaction is notorious. But people have to account for the power that they have. And I think people are like, "Dude, I'm electing you to use your power to do something." And I think people who can make the case that they will do something with the power that they have will fare well if they can communicate that effectively. Mike McGinn: [00:46:23] And I'm not running for office, so I'll say this. I think the voters too, have to hold themselves accountable as well. There's a little bit of, it's not easy to cut through all the rhetoric and the misrepresentations and all the rest. But ultimately, get out and vote this time - like we get the elected leaders sometimes that they get past us or they get in. And it's up to the voters to really hold them accountable. So, take your time. You don't have to take my word for who the right candidate is, or Crystal's, or any endorsers. Take your time to dig in and definitely take your time to vote. It's a low turnout election year. Sorry for just being - but it's a low turnout year. And what we know is people are calibrating their arguments and their policy positions based on who they think is going to vote this year. So, you get out there and you vote and upset the applecart a little bit. Maybe you can get some people in there who are more progressive. Crystal Fincher: [00:47:26] Yeah. And I think I said it in another show - vote your conscience. For me, I am a strong believer that in primary elections, a lot of people are like, "Well, am I throwing away my vote if I vote for someone who I feel is not in the lead?" And that's a whole host of people because right now, there's lots of talk about who's in the lead - although to be clear, Undecided voters are the plurality of voters right now. But vote for the candidate who you feel most closely matches your values because whether or not that candidate makes it through, that is a statement of values and that's a statement that all other candidates pay attention to. If X candidate that stands for a range of values doesn't make it through, but they're 15% of voters, especially in a general election where more than likely no candidate is going to be approaching 50%, probably not 40%, probably closer to 30%. They're going to have to put together a cohesive platform that can consolidate the other voters. And if they see that, "Oh, man, I am not going to get out of this without addressing climate. I'm not going to get out of this without meaningfully making sure people feel safe, without meaningfully addressing the issue of unhoused people on our streets." Make sure that they take notice of where you actually stand in terms of your values. And you don't have to compromise in a primary election. The choice in the general will be between two people and that's where you have to kind of look at, "Okay, what's the better choice, neither of them probably are going to be ideal on everything but the best choice." But vote your values now, please. Mike McGinn: [00:49:11] Let me put it this way - 90% of the elections, I'm with you. And boy, would I love some ranked-choice voting in a race like this. I would love to see ranked-choice voting in - so order the ones you want. So, you won'thave to worry about the strategic vote. But I think there are sometimes some races you want to vote for the person who you think stands the best chance of winning the general too. And I think this might be one of those as we talked about earlier. I think sometimes you have to look at that one too. And that certainly I think was a factor in getting Biden through the election. I think one of the reasons that the Black voter supported Biden so much, in addition to having a relationship with him and knowing where he stood, was also knowing they didn't want to take a chance on Trump. And they thought Biden had the best shot. Crystal Fincher: [00:50:03] And mistrust of other voters that they would vote progressively and not betray the vote that people might take if they voted their conscience. Yes, yeah. Mike McGinn: [00:50:13] Yeah, and so it's a tricky one. I wish strategic voting weren't a thing. I think there are sometimes when it is. And so that may be where we are this time too, but you can't and you shouldn't vote for somebody if you don't feel good that they're going to advance the causes you believe in at the end of the day. That's the thing that matters. So, do your homework, folks. Crystal Fincher: [00:50:38] Do your homework. We'll certainly include a lot of links - lots of organizations have endorsed - we'll include links from a variety of organizations - Times, Stranger, Urbanist, PubliCola, Transit RIders Union. There are a number of organizations and you can read through their rationale about why they made the decisions that they made. I find that helpful in sometimes trying to wade between which candidates I'm debating on. But please do that. We thank you so much for taking the time to listen to Hacks & Wonks on this Friday, July 16th, 2021. The producer of Hacks & Wonks is Lisl Stadler with assistance from Shannon Cheng. Our insightful co-host today was activist, former Seattle mayor, Mike McGinn. You can find Mike on Twitter @mayormcginn - that's M-C-G-I-N-N. You can find me on Twitter @finchfrii, spelled F-I-N-C-H-F-R-I-I. And now you can follow Hacks & Wonks on iTunes, Spotify, or wherever else you get your podcasts. Just type "Hacks and Wonks" into the search bar, be sure to subscribe to get the full versions of our Friday almost-live show and our mid-week show delivered to your podcast feed. You can also get the full transcript of this episode and links to the resources referenced in the show today at officialhacksandwonks.com and in the episode notes. Thanks for tuning in. We'll talk to you next time.

We have to thank a supporter/friend that we've yet to meet, Jerry, who sent us kind of a suggestion for this topic. On one of his daily walks, he took a picture of a plaque on the side of the Evergreen Theatre. It was commemorating the 1969 Miss Memphis Review pageant. Having not ever heard of this, we decided we'd investigate and thus it became our Pride Month episode. The Miss Memphis Review, which later came to be known as the Miss Gay Memphis, began as a protest to the city ordinance that banned crossdressing. But let's take a step back in time to talk about the aforementioned theatre location before we get to the pageant. The current Evergreen Theatre has gone through a few owners and name changes over the years. We'll start at the beginning, in 1927 (or 1928), the Ritz Theatre was built as a 900 seat movie theatre. It showed mainstream films and foreign films. It remained so until around 1955, when there was a fire and it was damaged. When rebuilt, it became known as the Memphis Guild Art Theatre. It was still showing foreign films but by the 60s, when Bill Kendall began running it, the shows became a little edgier.  The Guild Theatre showed what people would consider arthouse films. They were foreign films, LGBTQ films, and other films the city considered illegal “smut”. Kendall was known for bringing eccentric movies to his theatres, he had another theatre on Highland that had midnight showings of the most controversial films, actual gay films. The flamboyant cinephile was even indicted on several indecency charges, luckily they were eventually dropped.  Bill Kendall So who was William “Bill” Kendall? Well, we know he was born in Memphis and attended Southwestern College, which is now Rhodes. He was also a WWII veteran.   I can only imagine what it would be like to be a gay soldier during WWII. According to a Memphis Flyer article, he was unafraid to be loud and proud about being gay.  When Kendall managed the Guild, it became, as he called it, a safe space for self expression. Clearly, he was not afraid to show movies that were considered controversial. When he showed “I Spit on Your Grave”, it caused “one of the most hotly contested obscenity cases in Memphis.”  I've not ever seen that movie, so I looked up the plot to see what all the hubbub was about. That being said, look up the 1959 film, not the 70s film because that is a waaaay different story.  According to the TMC website this is the synopsis of the film...  Joe Grant is a vengeful light-skinned black man who leaves Memphis (MS) and moves to a small town in New Jersey after his brother is brutally lynched for attempting to marry a white woman. Joe's skin is so light that he is able to pass himself off as Caucasian and find work in a local bookstore. To get revenge on white society, Joe seduces a rich young white girl and then plots her death. At the same time, Joe discovers that the bookstore where he works is a front for an extortion ring. A short time passes and he finds himself falling in love with the girl. She too loves him until she learns that he is of African descent. Knowing this complicates matters (she is engaged to another man), but loving him just the same, she suggests they run away together to avoid the blackmailers. After Joe is beaten by the blackmailers, he decides this is a good idea and together the lovers flee. Back in town, the girls enraged fiance organizes a posse loudly claiming that Joe has abducted the girl and plans to rape her. Tragedy ensues just as the fugitive lovers are about to cross the Mason-Dixon Line. It doesn't seem too scandalous to me, but the 60s were a different time. So in an odd twist of events, the outcome of showing this movie did, however, put an end to Tennessee's obscenity law that had been in place for 106 years. Guess they didn't think it too scandalous either.  Ok, so back to the theatre and Mr. Kendall stirring up some “good trouble”.

We are at the dramatic, emotional summit! Jo's past comes to the forefront in a big way during the 64th minute of Twister, as she opines about her feelings to Bill. After Joe & Kelly discuss the film they move on to a viral TikTok video, talk about Helen Hunt's recent revelations about a Twister sequel, and finish with a video from a suburban Chicago, IL, USA, Ring video camera as a property is hit hard with an EFS tornado. ----------------------- JMNJR Radio: www.jmnjrradio.com/ Solid F2 Podcast: www.jmnjrradio.com/solidf2podcast/ Facebook: www.facebook.com/SolidF2Pod Twitter: @JMNJR_Radio | @SolidF2Pod | @CoachJoeMays Email: joe@solidf2pod.com or kelly@solidf2pod.com --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/solid-f2-podcast/message

We are at the dramatic, emotional summit! Jo's past comes to the forefront in a big way during the 64th minute of Twister, as she opines about her feelings to Bill. After Joe & Kelly discuss the film they move on to a viral TikTok video, talk about Helen Hunt's recent revelations about a Twister sequel, and finish with a video from a suburban Chicago, IL, USA, Ring video camera as a property is hit hard with an EFS tornado. ----------------------- JMNJR Radio: www.jmnjrradio.com/ Solid F2 Podcast: www.jmnjrradio.com/solidf2podcast/ Facebook: www.facebook.com/SolidF2Pod Twitter: @JMNJR_Radio | @SolidF2Pod | @CoachJoeMays Email: joe@solidf2pod.com or kelly@solidf2pod.com

On this brand new edition of Cubs On Tap, Cody, Joe, and Ron discussed the Cubs' 13-12 loss to the Reds. The guys vented their frustrations with the state of the team, discussed some thoughts on the future of this team, thought through some questions regarding 2021 being a "transition" year, and much more! After Joe hopped off, Ron and Cody finished up the episode by previewing Monday's game as the Cubs welcome the Dodgers to Wrigley Field. -- Cubs On Tap is presented by OnTapSportsNet.com and MANSCAPED. For 20% off and Free Shipping go to Manscaped.com and use the promo code ONTAP. -- Follow us on Twitter and Instagram! @CubbiesOnTap Panelists: @CodyOnTap | @joekilgallon | @LuceOnTap

After Joe's claims, last week, that his house is haunted, he managed to capture unexplainable footage and shares it with the boys to get their reaction. The boys also give their views on Seaspiracy and discuss the most degrading things they've done in the bedroom.Visit https://freetrade.io/wafflin for a FREE share worth up to £200.Visit https://StitchFix.co.uk/WAFFLIN for 20% off your order if you buy all 5 items from your fix!Go to www.beer52.com/Wafflin to claim your free case of 8 craft beers!

If you want to know one thing your coach thinks about your program, then Chuck can tell you. We are then joined by Joe Hamilton for his weekly visit as part of 'The Game Plan,' brought to us each week by Low T Nation. After Joe's visit, Chuck talks Texas A&M with Travis L Brown of The Eagle in Bryan-College Station, Texas.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Joe dedicates the first half of this week's show to his 102-year-old grandmother [who passed away this week]. He shares the Top 3 "life lessons" he learned from her, as well as 2 "health tips" she shared with him on her 100th birthday. After Joe's tribute to his grandmother, he answers 3 listener questions. Topics include: 1) What exercises does Joe recommend when a client can't even perform a BODYWEIGHT squat? 2) How/Why do newbie's increase their STRENGTH  before seeing any visible changes in SIZE? 3) If "flexing the spine under load" is dangerous, why do so many coaches teach a 'posterior pelvic tilt' when performing hip thrusts? *For Show Notes & Timestamps from this episode goto: www.IndustrialStrengthShow.com   *To become CPPS-certified [from home] goto: www.CPPScoaches.com/schedule   *To purchase DeFranco's Nutritional Supplements goto: www.DeFrancosNutrition.com  

Know anyone just beginning their financial journey? Well, gather them round your listening device because on today's show Symoné B. "Beez," author of Financial Starter Kit and co-host of the new podcast 4 Goats and a Mic, joins us. We'll walk you through the FIRST things you need to do to build a solid financial foundation. Plus, Symoné will share her story from start to finish: from finding herself sinking in credit card debt - a situation she promised herself she'd never be in - to cutting up her credit cards to retake control of her situation. But she didn't stop there, now Symoné is on a mission to help others gain financial independence and avoid the same pitfalls she encountered. We'll talk 101 financial strategies, what to do when your in over your head, and more. Hello DoorDash and AirBnB lovers! Are you getting FOMO (fear of missing out) from all of the flashy initial public offering (IPO) headlines? With seemingly every IPO followed up by the "look at how much money it made on Day 1" headlines, who wouldn't want to get the early bird special on the next one? There's only one problem about jumping on IPOs to make a killing in the stock market, and early DoorDash investors found that lesson out the hard way. After Joe and OG explain how these IPOs actually work, we'll jump on the line with Affinity Solutions CEO, Johnathan Silver to get some firsthand data on how consumer spending has changed this past year. Have you driven to work less and fixed up your home office? Maybe shopped for the holidays a little early? Jonathan just might describe YOU on today's show. And finally, we finish today's show with a note of good cheer. Tyler calls into the Haven Life line looking for advice on the best way he can help set up his future niece/nephew for college and beyond. Of course, we'll always save some time for Doug. Enjoy!

Ephesians 6:2-3 (NET) “Honor your father and mother,” which is the first commandment accompanied by a promise, namely, “that it may go well with you and that you will live a long time on the earth.” After Joe became a … Continued

On this Older and Wiser episode of High-Dere Ian and Joe celebrate a birthday with a brew and a bowl before getting up to the same ole conversation shenanigans they’re “famous” for.After Joe loses one entire side of a 15 minute conversation, the guys discuss age milestones and whether they feel “behind” their goals or not. Things they’re combatting ultimately by doing things like updating the ElfTree Media site, getting Small Business Certification, putting out new music…all while surrounded with an ever changing medical, social and political climate; a perfect storm fitting for a year such as 2020.They also talk about survival instinct, fight or flight and physical defense beliefs in a time where info analysis by members of QAnon reveals shocking truths and lies about the world around us on an almost daily basis. This terrifying whirlwind is also combatted by self-awareness and busying ourselves with work that should hopefully bring us "All Together Now”All this and more on a typical 2020 episode of High-Dere.Song Credits:Happy Birthday! - Jazzy Piano Arrangement by Jonny MayAll Together Now - By Literally Me Right Now© Elf Tree Publishing (ASCAP)

The crew calls in Joe Sheehan (JoeSheehan.com) to talk some baseball including why the Dodgers this year are one of the best teams he's seen in his lifetime, the expiration date for baseball's unwritten rules, the big change he'd make to improve the game & hitting philosophy up 3-0 in the count with a big lead.After Joe exits, the guys throw out a number of topics & just go like the good ol' days when you can get blasted in a bar.

After Joe cleans up after spewing beer out his nose, the team sits down and covers the news of the week, most notably the lawsuit of Epic Games vs Apple after apple removed Fortnite from the App store for Violations of contract. come listen to our takes on the situation, and share yours in the comments!  

Last week Jaremy discussed his workouts and how he was experiencing overtraining. This week Joe discusses his training recommendations for Jaremy. Check out the before and after and follow the conversation by tapping into the images below. Before - Jaremy's Workout (https://backcountryandbarbells.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/JDsTraining.jpg) After - Joe's Training Remix (https://backcountryandbarbells.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/JDs-Remix-.pdf) Why not also give the sessions a try! We'd also also love to remix your training!

Rice Athletic Director Joe Karlgaard’s podcast enters a new decade with the first edition of 2020. After Joe and JP Heath catch up on many of the milestones and achievements since our last edition, the focus turns to the new Owl Club board as new Owl Club President Gary Chiles talks about the efforts of the newly created board to support the Vision For Victory (11:50). As always, the podcast wraps up by answering questions submitted from Owl fans (21:44). If you’d like to submit a question or suggest an guest for a future episode, email us at riceathletics@rice.edu. Thanks for listening and GO OWLS!

After Joe’s character yells duel against Ben Franklin, shit gets real. While Ben Franklin gets tired of the patriots shit (Aka, Tim, the DM gets tired of our shit) an epic final battle happens with some lasting consequences. This… this episode wasn’t even supported to happen. This was basically us trolling Tim. Tim never saw this coming. Who is the real monster here? The players were the monsters. Who will win? Will Ben Franklin defeat the patriots after they betray him? Will they survive? Listen in to the final episode of the 4th of July special to find out! Just make sure you check out the website listed below for a new page that we needed to create!Also Tim’s Drunk ass gave us 10000xp. So that will level up our charters. Now he cant go back on that ruling. HAHAHAHAHAHACredits:Thank you to Jesus Gonzalez and Jon for their great work!Tim picked up the flute to play the anthem for the podcast… it did not go well…Credit Music: "Freaky Theme_longer" Used with permission By Jesus Gonzalez Site: theweatherdespots.wordpress.comThank you to Freesound.org for SFX used under Creative Commons 0 license unless otherwise listed. Please support the posters there as they are doing this out of the kindness of their hearts.And please visit us for updates and more at www.dcuhshow.com and look us up on facebook because we are lonely and need friends!Twitter:@DcuHshow#DCUH

After Joe and his onion ordeal, he challenges me to make a phone call. We also discuss Grimsby Live (Obviously) And the discussion of a potential new segment.

This week's show gets off to a rough start as Joe shares his recent cell phone (Sprint) problems with Cameron. This leads to a brief discussion about customer service, giving 100% at work...and pumping your own gas?!? After Joe's rant is out of the way, he and Cam get down to business! Together, they discuss how they can improve the out-dated, flawed football conditioning tests that have been around throughout their lifetime, i.e., half-gassers, 16 110's and the 300-yard shuttle. During this episode, you will get to be a "fly on the wall" as Joe & Cam discuss the latest research, time-motion analysis and their personal experiences training thousands of football players. By the end of the show they create new, easy-to-apply, position-specific football conditioning tests that coaches and trainers around the world can now implement!!   For Show Notes & Timestamps goto www.IndustrialStrengthShow.com

Is there ever a right time to quit your job? At what point do you give up on the current job and take a pay cut to climb a better ladder? On today's show we'll talk career prospects, life planning, income, and more during our headline segment. Helping us out with today's roundtable are our contributors: Mary Wheeler from the Know Debt No Problem podcast, Paula Pant from the Afford Anything podcast, and OG from our very own Stacking Benjamins show. Halfway through the show we'll take a little break from our discussion on jobs (or lack thereof), while Joe talks to Simeon Hyman of ProShares about the market's new exchange traded fund... PAWZ. We've discussed plenty of financial and investment strategies on the show, but this may be the first time we'll discuss a pet care inspired ETF. After Joe wraps up his conversation with Simeon we'll pivot back towards our contributors for our Magnify Money call. JC calls in today with some excited news: he's getting married soon! With marriage on the way, JC also has retirement on his mind. He's 27, and is thinking about playing catch-up with his investments. Is he a little crazy to think about maxing out their accounts despite their income levels? Thanks to MetPro for supporting Stacking Benjamins. Get a complimentary Metabolic Profiling assessment and a 30-minute consultation with a MetPro expert at metpro.co/sb. Thanks to AcreTrader for supporting Stacking Benjamins. Learn more at AcreTrader.com/sb.

Have you checked your credit lately? How does credit even work? Why do I have a low credit score? Today, Len Penzo, OG, and our special guest Gerri Detweiler tackle credit, credit cards, and hwo to best make your credit score your friend. Halfway through the show we'll take a break from our discussion while Joe talks to Carter Malloy from AcreTrader. When you think investments, does farmland come to mind? On today's fintech segment we'll talk to farmland a viable, attractive investment option. After Joe wraps things up with Carter, Doug will jump on the mic to deliver today's trivia question to our roundtable crew. Before the first transcontinental railroad was completed a coast to coast trip could easily cost $1000 or more. But how much did the trip cost after the railroad connected the two coastlines? Keep your answer in mind... but no cheating! Doug will give us the answer after the roundtable has a chance to get in their answers. After we declare a winner for our halftime gameshow, we'll answer a Magnify Money call from Andrew. Andrew and his family will be moving soon from their paid off condo into a townhome. Should the family use some of their emergency fund to pay down more cash on their townhome, or wait until their condo sells and use that money towards their new home? Looking for something deeper than what we give you on the show? Three days a week not enough? Subscribe to our weekly newsletter: The Stacker.

Joe kicks off this week's show with a quick recap of Saturday's coaching seminar with Jordan Syatt. After recognizing the incredible group of coaches & trainers that attended the seminar, Joe is reminded of the "other side" of the industry (which consists of frauds & scam artists). This leads to an epic rant regarding the recent situation involving "fitness influencer" Brittany Dawn. After Joe's rant, the second half of the show is dedicated to answering 2 training questions. These 2 questions include: Joe's 4-Minute Morning Mobility Routine and The Secret "Extra Workout" for Improving Vertical Jump Height.   For Show Notes & Timestamps goto www.IndustrialStrengthShow.com   To learn more about AMPED WARM-UP 3.0 goto www.Ampedwarmup.com/new

Drew talks about his new business venture, Keyhouse! After Joe introduced Procourse last week, this conversation continues the same dialogue on freelance work becoming something bigger. Keyhouse (http://keyhou.se) ProCourse (https://procourse.co)

This week's guest is famous for one pitch that changed his life forever. The pitch was a 92 mph, first pitch fastball to the back of the head on his major league debut with the Chicago Cubs. This unfortunate event gave Adam the record for being only one of two players in history to have an official at bat without ever taking the field. After seven years of continued hustle to get back to the major leagues, battling post-concussion symptoms and countless other injuries, he signed a one day contract with the Miami Marlins in 2012 to finish that at bat. Adam was an All-American at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill and was inducted into the National Jewish Sports Hall of Fame in 2014. Outside of baseball Adam founded the Health & Wellness Company Lurong Living and is author of the book “Get Up, The Art of Perseverance.” Adam's book should be a must read for any athlete who is dealt adversity, especially if they are struggling with post-concussion syndrome. I was first introduced to Adam's story through my buddy Joe who hired Adam to speak to the athletes at NJIT. After Joe's recommendation and reading Adam's book I knew I had to get him on the pod. I apologize in advance for dips in audio quality throughout this episode, but luckily Adam was kind enough to re-record the roughest parts. Below you will find a list of topics Adam and I cover throughout the interview: “If you play sports you are going to have setbacks.” Why baseball is a game of failure. The odds against baseball players reaching the major leagues. Goal setting principles. Weight room accident that kept him out of for the first time baseball and how Adam dealt with it. How your attitude can create opportunity. How to make fuel for your fire with the naysayers. Symptoms from the concussion suffered in Adam's first major league at bat (17 mis-diagnosis). Positional vertigo The different treatments that helped alleviate his symptoms. Epley Maneuver Dr. Barry Sieler – visual edge performance trainer Nutrition “I picked baseball, baseball didn’t pick me.” What is was like going through this injury in the early years of concussion awareness. How to make injury recover a game. How Adam's mental game got stronger after each setback. The importance of setting small goals along the injury recovery journey. The one at-bat campaign story. How pain can serve as a teacher. Why if you quit, you are no

This week's guest is famous for one pitch that changed his life forever.  The pitch was a 92 mph, first pitch fastball to the back of the head on his major league debut with the Chicago Cubs.  This unfortunate event gave Adam the record for being only one of two players in history to have an official at bat without ever taking the field.  After seven years of continued hustle to get back to the major leagues, battling post-concussion symptoms and countless other injuries, he signed a one day contract with the Miami Marlins in 2012 to finish that at bat.  Adam was an All-American at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill and was inducted into the National Jewish Sports Hall of Fame in 2014.  Outside of baseball Adam founded the Health & Wellness Company Lurong Living and is author of the book “Get Up, The Art of Perseverance.” Adam's book should be a must read for any athlete who is dealt adversity, especially if they are struggling with post-concussion syndrome. I was first introduced to Adam's story through my buddy Joe who hired Adam to speak to the athletes at NJIT.  After Joe's recommendation and reading Adam's book I knew I had to get him on the pod.   I apologize in advance for dips in audio quality throughout this episode, but luckily Adam was kind enough to re-record the roughest parts. Below you will find a list of topics Adam and I cover throughout the interview: “If you play sports you are going to have setbacks.” Why baseball is a game of failure. The odds against baseball players reaching the major leagues. Goal setting principles. Weight room accident that kept him out of for the first time baseball and how Adam dealt with it. How your attitude can create opportunity. How to make fuel for your fire with the naysayers. Symptoms from the concussion suffered in Adam's first major league at bat (17 mis-diagnosis). Positional vertigo The different treatments that helped alleviate his symptoms. Epley Maneuver Dr. Barry Sieler – visual edge performance trainer Nutrition “I picked baseball, baseball didn’t pick me.” What is was like going through this injury in the early years of concussion awareness. How to make injury recover a game. How Adam's mental game got stronger after each setback. The importance of setting small goals along the injury recovery journey. The one at-bat campaign story. How pain can serve as a teacher. Why if you quit, you are no help to anyone. Adam's transition to life after baseball and how Lurong Living helped this transition. The injury that gave Adam closure. Adam educate's us on deer antler supplements. Adam's latest project with Four Diamonds Sports. WHERE CAN YOU connect with Adam Greenberg? INSTAGRAM | TWITTER | FACEBOOK | LINKEDIN Where can you learn more about Lurong Living? Website | Facebook | Twitter | Instagram Download Episode 130 : iTunes | Stitcher 

After Joe's latest airline debacle, you'll really appreciate Brodee's Shower Thoughts. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Joe Apfelbaum truly embodies what Thrive LOUD is all about.  As the "Chief Energy Officer" of Ajax Union - he his highly MOJO-vated each and every day. After Joe's amazing original interview with Lou Diamond, the team at Thrive LOUD thought it would make for a fun 'minisode' to pluck out all of Joe's nuggets of wisdom from that episode.  This was no small task considering how many great things 'Average Joe to CEO' had to say. Enjoy this truly 'best of' minisode....

After Joe talks about how sick he’s been and some shameless shilling for Absolute Intense Wrestling, we dive into the second offering in the Soon to be Named Movie Club – Body Slam! What big name actor shows up for one day? What actor say the most offensive stuff? The answer may shock you! The post After Dark Episode 170: Soon to be Named Movie Club II – Body Slam appeared first on Longbox Heroes.

After Joe talks about how sick he’s been and some shameless shilling for Absolute Intense Wrestling, we dive into the second offering in the Soon to be Named Movie Club – Body Slam! What big name actor shows up for one day? What actor say the most offensive stuff? The answer may shock you! The post After Dark Episode 170: Soon to be Named Movie Club II – Body Slam appeared first on Longbox Heroes.

Lou-Ellen's father, Joe, was diagnosed with Alzheimer's, leaving her mother, Marilyn, to serve as primary caregiver – a role that left her financially, emotionally, and physically exhausted. And yet, Lou-Ellen's mother very effectively hid that exhaustion from her children. It wasn't until a trip to Florida to visit her parents did Lou-Ellen understand the toll that caregiving had taken and just how unsustainable the situation was. After Joe died, Marilyn developed vascular dementia and Lou-Ellen became the caregiver for her. It was by serving as primary caregiver for her mother that Lou-Ellen came to understand just how difficult caregiving can be and discovered a new-found appreciation for the depth of her mother's love and loyalty.

After Joe's back injury the team gets back into the studio to talk with comedian Dustin Chafin and discuss the upcoming Super Bowl. Check him out: https://www.facebook.com/ComedianDustinChafin/

Cecile develops telepathic abilities as a result of her pregnancy, combined with dormant dark matter in her cells, which Caitlin assures her should be temporary. In prison, Barry learns that Ratchet is innocent of a robbery-homicide that was actually committed by Sylbert Rundine fifteen years prior. Barry asks the team to look into the case. Rundine turns out to be a bus meta with the ability to shrink and enlarge objects, and he shrinks Cisco and Ralph while escaping. Harry's attempted cure backfires, and Caitlin determines that if they are not re-enlarged within a certain period of time, their bodies will explode. The team confronts Rundine at a warehouse, where Harry tricks him into re-enlarging Ralph and Cisco. Rundine is arrested, but refuses to confess to the earlier crime. Barry gathers that even if Ratchet went free, he would be as unhappy in the city as he is in prison; he wishes to live in a secluded Chinese village called Jiaju, but fears he will never get there. After Joe assures him that he will always do his best, Barry uses his speed to take Ratchet to Jiaju, where he can live out his dream. After discovering Barry is the Flash, the warden locks Barry in the prison's metahuman wing, intending to sell him to Amunet. Help make this show happen! Learn more at https://www.patreon.com/tvtalk (https://www.patreon.com/tvtalk)

After Joe read Ninja Selling, he immediately had his team reach out to Larry to be on the show. Larry is the author of his book on sales, as well as a real estate investor. If you haven’t read the book, you should. Listen to this episode for a good primer to Ninja Selling. If you enjoyed today’s episode remember to subscribe in iTunes and leave us a review!   Best Ever Tweet: “Listen very, very, carefully for pain or pleasure, and then offer a solution.” - Larry Kendall   Larry Kendall Background: -Founding partner of The Group, Inc., a real estate company that is owned equally by its sales associates and staff -Author of Ninja Selling and has engaged in the real estate business for over 40 years -Creator of Ninja Selling, a sales training system with over fifty thousand graduates in the US, Canada, and Spain -The Group has 190 sales associates and six offices in the Northern Colorado area -Business Person of the Year by Business World Magazine -Say hi to him at -Based in Fort Collins, Colorado -Best Ever Book: Man’s Search for Meaning     Made Possible Because of Our Best Ever Sponsors:Are you looking for a way to increase your overall profits by reducing your loan payments to the bank? offers a fix-and-flip loan program that ONLY charges interest on the funds that have been disbursed, which can result in thousands of dollars in savings.Before securing financing for your next fix-and-flip project, Best Ever Listeners you must download your free white paper at to find out how Patch of Land’s fix and flip program can positively impact your investment strategy and save you money.

We welcome Coach Joe Beer. Joe is in Devon, UK and has 25 years of coaching experience with  both time trials and triathlon. Joe is the author of  three books and hosts a regular multisport podcast, jbst.com. You can learn more by visiting his website, http://www.coachjoebeer.com/. Welcome back Coach Joe Beer! We had a very positive reaction to Joe’s first appearance when we chatted about the white paper on the jbst.com website which talked about Smarter Training and the importance of keeping the majority of your training rides at an “easy” level. You can check out episode #92 for more information on that. I like to take ideas from listeners and one suggestion that been requested and in fact re-requested is to chat about the relationship between triathlon and time trialists. I want to especially thank James Thomas for his most recent TT-tri podcast suggestion. After Joe’s first appearance I could not think of a better person to chat about this. Joe of course is a multi sport coach and in fact has himself completed five Ironman distance events. Follow Coach Joe on twitter @coachjoebeer Contact me at cyclingtimetrialpodcast@gmail.com or @markflorence11 on twitter. Thanks for downloading the show!

After Joe meets the love of his life at the local library, she is violently killed by an art obsessed immortal before she has the opportunity to say a single line of dialogue, forcing Amanda and Duncan to stage a daring heist to lure the murderous art snob into the open. The Rewatchers go deep into the weeds of some amazing IMDB descriptions (we're looking at you Xtreme Dinosaurs), jam out to the first blues performance by Jim Byrnes, and try to figure out why the immortal of the week roars like a T-rex.

He’s worked in sports management with the likes of Brett Favre, he bought and sold four businesses by the time he was 35, he’s done multiple M & As in his time as an investment banker, and now he’s a bestselling author (Networking is a Contact Sport, Moving the Needle), speaker and coach. He also loves the work of our recent guests Dean Niewolny and Lloyd Reeb over at the Halftime Institute. With that kind of background and experience you can probably guess, we were not exactly short of conversation! Listen to the show for some absolute gold advice about how to set yourself up for a fulfilling life after business, or read on for some of the highlights…  How did Joe get started? The 8th in line of 8 older brothers, a negative net worth of $50,000 and a love for manufacturing, Joe had no doubts he was destined to be an entrepreneur. He went to the library and built his own database of manufacturing companies, pre internet, with the goal of calling all the owners to see where they were at. Joe’s main goal was to find someone that would be willing to take on a hard working, ambitious young man that would be willing to sell their company over time. After finding his perfect situation Joe did just that… and then acquired 3 more manufacturing companies before selling! What happened when he first sold his companies? He sold his companies at a relatively young age because he had 4 little kids at home and was starting to realize that he should reprioritize some things in his life. After Joe sold he got to work on his bucket list, i.e. single-digit golf handicap, running the Boston marathon etc. But soon it just wasn’t cutting it. In his words: “I thought I’d either have to create a new list or go back to work, or I’m gonna die!” That’s how he ended up in sports management, specializing in acquiring companies on behalf of sports stars. What has he learnt from the people he’s worked with? Most people don’t have any idea how to pause, call the whistle, and look at the replay.  How can you go onto to a life afterwards of passion and purpose if you have not assessed how you have played the game so far?  Having intention in the second half is hardest part! What he noticed about people who succeeded in their second half: Anyone who has successfully transitioned into their second half has taken time to reflect and take a look at who they are and what they really want. In the first half, we are busy working to create a stable household and to provide for our family. Many people measure success on the things we can see, i.e. flash cars, big houses etc., and this is more the domain of the first half. In the second half it’s more about things we don’t see, like respect, dignity and serving others. In the second half it’s about finding a purpose and having a life vision. Joe’s advice on how to measure your life after business: If your life turned out really great, what metrics would you use? Not enough people really define what success means. They can easily assume they’re unsuccessful, or on the flip side, aim for something they assume will make them successful; but it could all end in tears if they haven’t focused on what success really means to them. The questions Joe asks himself at the end of each day: What’s the best thing that happened today? What did I do today to create my ideal day? What am I most grateful for? What’s one new thing I learned today? What did I do today to make X dollars for my family? What did I do today to allow God to work through me? What am I looking most forward to tomorrow? Wise words for the road: “We find things that burn inside of us, and I think we’v

On this Valentine's Day Joe and Brandi welcome Joy Beth Smith into their Bible Study to discuss being single in the church. After Joe messes up the intro they get to know Joy Beth for a little bit, then they discuss what each of their most feminine qualities are, of course they discuss romantic comedies including Hallmark Christmas movies, what it's like dating Christian guys, why it's so difficult finding a partner in this day and age, whether chemistry and/or shared intimacy are good indicators of whether someone will make a good partner, how much the church loves marriage, and of course Joe makes everything awkward. All this and very little else in this week's episode.    Intro 00:00 Fellowship 02:30 Ice Breakers 12:51 Let's Get Into The Meat 24:27

One this episode we discuss the City of Baltimore's attempt to ban Airsoft Replicas, the fact that there are no dragons in the trailer for JTAC's Op "Dragons Keep" and we make several attempts to discuss stolen Valor in Airsoft. After Joe and Beast share High School stories completely unrelated to Airsoft we finally get around to stolen Valor. Enjoy!

This week on NAGP Resurrection we discuss Nintendo's desire to make movies, which triggers a heated debate between Joe and Jumper Cables about the viability of an F-Zero film. After Joe fails horribly at trying to pronounce "Hideo Kojima" we discuss IGN continuing the legacy of Game Trailers by purchasing the company's assets, A new Kickstarter pee pee project, VR news out of Google IO, and then we ask just what “vagina bones” are. This week’s topic: Video game based films! Jumper Cables attempts to pitch his F-Zero film again, and then takes it a step further by pitching an Ecco the Dolphin movie! We finish off the show with recommendations and final thoughts. All over ya face. Opening: uc by Lately Kind of Yeah freemusicarchive.org/music/Lately_Kind_of_Yeah/ Closing: Come and Find Me - B Mix by Eric Skiff ericskiff.com/music/ Visit our website for more podcasting goodness! bit.ly/1lISxVl

Now that the entire HALLOWEEN franchise has been dismantled, Brett and Joe dive into something new and exciting — upcoming horror anthology SOUTHBOUND. Before that, Brett and Joe remember the late Gunnar Hansen, the original Leatherface who died this past week, and discuss the legacy and influence of the original TEXAS CHAIN SAW MASSACRE. After Joe has some harsh words for James Bond and learns the proper pronunciation of "Idris Elba" ("Airbus Elbow?"), he proclaims his love for Radio Silence as our hosts dive into SOUTHBOUND, which opens this February. A minor, general SPOILER ALERT here — this movie isn't out for several months. We do NOT go into any real spoiler-heavy discussion, but we do talk about the premises of each. You have been warned!

After Joe's loud protestations last week, we set aside some time for a proper Blade runner love in. We also got round to some Island specific film stories, failed to guess Joe's screen legend and started a conversation about weird cinema experiences.