Podcast appearances and mentions of betty garrett

The celebration of March's Women's History Month continues as GGACP revisits Part 2 of a memorable two-part episode featuring veteran screen and stage actress Sally Struthers. In this episode, Sally regales Gilbert and Frank with entertaining backstage tales from “All in the Family,” “The Gilmore Girls” and the all-female production of Neil Simon's “The Odd Couple,” while sharing personal recollections of Joan Crawford, David Frost, Betty Garrett and idol and personal hero Ruth Gordon. Also, Burgess Meredith philosophizes, Katharine Hepburn paints a birthday card, Sally “gooses” Dennis the Menace and Mel Blanc shows off his vanity license plate. PLUS: Burt Mustin! “Harold and Maude”! “The Great Houdini”! The genius of Rupert Holmes! Colonel Potter goes to Russia! And Sally dates the King of Rock ‘n' Roll and…wait for it…Pat McCormick! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

EPISODE 52 - "BIG SCREEN TO SMALL SCREEN: CLASSIC CINEMA'S TV REMAKES." (052) - 09/09/2024 ** This episode is sponsored brought to you by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at betterhelp.com/BENEATH and get on your way to being your best self.” ** Sometimes, a classic film is primed for being turned into a successful television series — think “M*A*S*H*,” “Alice,” “In The Heat of the Night,” or “Peyton Place.” But this isn't always the case. There have been many classic films turned into TV shows with less-than-stellar results. Does anyone remember the “Casablanca" TV show on ABC with Starsky & Hutch star DAVID SOUL filling in for HUMPHREY BOGART? Don't worry, nobody else does either! This week, we take a look at a few of the TV series that were based on classic movies that didn't quite hit the mark. SHOW NOTES:  Sources: Television Series of the 1950s (2016), by Vincent Terrace; Encyclopedia of TV Shoes: 1925 - 2010 (2011), by Vincent Terrace; The Complete Directory To Prime Time Network TV Shows (1988), by Time Brooks and Earle F. Marsh; TCM.com; IMDBPro.com; Wikipedia.com; Movies Mentioned:  Operation Petticoat (1959), starring Cary Grant, Tony Curtis, Dina Merrill, and Arthur O'Connell; Halloween (1978), starring Jamie Lee Curtis and Donald Pleasence; Topper (1937), starring Cary Grant, Constance Bennett, Roland Young, and Billie Burke; How To Marry A Millionaire (1953), starring Marilyn Monroe and Jane Russell; The Third Man (1949), starring Joseph Cotten, Orson Welles, Trevor Howard, and Alida Valli; My Sister Eileen (1942), starring Rosalind Russell and Janet Blair; My Sister Eileen (1955), starring Janet Leigh, Betty Garrett, and Jack Lemmon; Please Don't Eat The Daisies (1960), starring Doris Day and David Niven; The Ghost and Mrs. Muir (1947), starring Gene Tierney and Rex Harrison; Casablanca (1942), staring Humphrey Bogart, Ingrid Bergman, Paul Henreid, Peter Lorre, and Sydney Greenstreet; --------------------------------- http://www.airwavemedia.com Please contact sales@advertisecast.com if you would like to advertise on our podcast. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

"Betty, dear, you've got to stop throwing yourself at men." Neptune's Daughter (1949) directed by Edward Buzzell and starring Esther Williams, Ricardo Montalbán, Red Skelton, Betty Garrett, Xavier Cugat and Theresa Harris Next Time: Island In The Sun (1957)

Gene Kelly and Frank Sinatra were both tremendous movie stars, but their names haven't come up very often in 11+ years of Have You Ever Seen. So after covering plenty of dark films in recent weeks, Ryan talks alone in this 589th episode about these singers and dancers in their light musical romp. It's glossy and the songs are mostly good, but this Kelly/Donen affair is also silly and easy to mock. The 2 handsome stars---along with Jules Munshin---share the screen with Betty Garrett, Ann Miller and Vera-Ellen. Garrett and Miller play a couple of fast women, who make it crystal clear just how into the guys they are while Kelly spends an entire day trying to romance the harder-to-get Vera-Ellen. And the things they all accomplish in 24 hours! So obsess about a woman you only know from a poster while you're on shore leave in New York as Ryan monologues about On The Town. Get your Sparkplug Coffee and also nab a onetime 20% discount from them by using our "HYES" promo code. The website is "sparkplug.coffee/hyes". Saying things to us can be achieved in a multitude of ways. Our email address is "haveyoueverseenpodcast@gmail.com" while on Twi-X we're @moviefiend51 and @bevellisellis. Same @ for her on Threads. And we always post our episodes on YouTube (@hyesellis or just type "Have You Ever Seen" into YouTube's search bar). Rate our shows, review the podcast, comment and of course subscribe on the 'Tube, but also on your podcast app.

“The thing I loved about the theater was ‘the puzzle'. And in television, it was a new puzzle every week. And I LOVED that.” – Mary Lou Belli, on the joy of directing.In a career spanning five decades, Emmy Award-winning director Mary Lou has directed episodes of Charles In Charge, Major Dad, The Hughleys, Girlfriends, Monk, The Game, Heart of Dixie, Devious Maids, Station 19, Black Lightening, NCIS: New Orleans, Sweet Magnolias and The Ms. Pat Show. She is the co-author of four books: Director's Tell the Story, The Sitcom Career Book, Acting For Young Actors and The NEW Sitcom Career Book.She has also opened doors for the next generation of women directors through diversity programs at ABC and CBS, and teaching and mentoring young directors through DGA, AFI, Women in Film, Film Fatale, Women in Media and Alliance of Women Directors. Ms. Belli reflects on her transition into directing, and how the landscape of opportunities has changed for women in Hollywood over the past four decades.THE CONVERSATIONSTARTING SMALL: After graduating college at Penn State, Mary Lou still “looked 14 years old” -- so she went to New York where she immediately got roles playing children on stage and in films.Domestic Life – learning about “perfection, refinement and improvement” with Steve Martin and Martin Mull.Teaching “Anne Shirley” (Megan Follows, Anne of Green Gables) how to drive on the back lot at Universal Studios!How Jack Riley – Mr. Carlin from The Bob Newhart Show – lit the fire that led to Mary Lou becoming a director.Getting her start as a director at Betty Garrett's Theater West in Los Angeles.Being mentored by Debbie Allen, Nancy Malone, Lee Shallat-Chemel, Linda Day, Joan Darling.MARY LOU IN CHARGE: Directing Ellen Travolta and Scott Baio on Charles in Charge.How identifying women as minorities opened up the playing field – and how affirmative action overwhelmingly helps open up career pathways.How being “the only woman in the room” leads to a lack of opportunity – but with MORE women in the room, generosity of opportunity follows.Running into CCH Pounder at Trader Joe's!So join Susan and Sharon – and Mary Lou – as they talk road trips, Estelle Getty, Sydney Pollack, Emmy nominations, “Don't Touch My Hair”, the joy of Scott Bakula – and the wisdom of passing out Xerox copies of your good reviews!AUDIOGRAPHYFind out more at her website, MaryLouBelli.com.Buy Mary Lou Belli's books at Bookshop.org.Watch The Ms. Pat Show on BET. On Amazon Video.Listen to Julia Louis-Dreyfus' podcast Wiser Than Me.SPECIAL PATREON-ONLY EPISODE! – Listen to a live watch-thru of Lifetime's Ladies of the 80's: A Diva's Christmas with Susan, Sharon, Melissa and 90's TV Baby Serita Fontanesi! Don't miss it on Patreon (Try it for FREE for 7 days!).CONNECTRead transcripts and more at 80sTVLadies.com.Sign up for the 80s TV Ladies mailing list.Follow 8TL on Facebook.Check out Instagram/80sTVLadies.Get ad-free episodes and exclusive videos on PATREON.Find more cool podcasts at our host sight, Weirding Way Media.LISTENER FEEDBACKSend us a message on our 8TL website:What 80s Ladies Directors should we have on the show?What show should we cover next on 80s TV Ladies?And let us know: Do you watch holiday movies? Where do you watch them? What are your favorites?Wishing you a wonderful holiday, Merry Christmas and a very Happy New Year!This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/5585115/advertisement

When I was first learning to speak some 20 years ago with the great Betty Garrett, she's got a fabulous reputation in the speaking world. She says, "I've got somebody I want you to meet." So I went to this networking event and I met Joel Zeff and I just became obsessed with him. I went to YouTube and I started looking at all his videos and he is one of the most entertaining speakers I have ever met.

I feel like I've had several lifetimes, the news lifetime, the speaking lifetime, and now podcasting and public relations lifetime. You meet these pivotal people in your life at each one of these crossroads and one of those people is Betty Garrett, she is with LST Speakers.

When Rhonda sets up Laverne & Shirley with a couple of high rollers, she notes that the men may expect "something" off the girls for treating them to a pricy dinner. While the date goes well, the girls start to worry that they 'have' to go further with their new fellas than they feel comfortable to. So they go to Laverne's stepmom Edna for some sage advice. What will they decide? Are the guys secretly Star Trek nerds?! On pod, we talk the way the show's trying to evolve past its old habits, while also touching on the greatness of Betty Garrett.

George Feltenstein joins the podcast to discuss three new Warner Archive Blu-rays releasing on March 14th.  First up is the drama  FLAMINGO ROAD (1949), starring the Joan Crawford, Zachary Scott, Sydney Greenstreet. Crawford is an ex-carnival dancer who marries a local businessman to get revenge on a corrupt political boss.  The Blu-ray includes a nice batch of extras, which George describes in detail.Next George reviews the 1949 Technicolor musical romantic comedy NEPTUNE'S DAUGHTER, starring the talented Esther Williams, Red Skelton, Ricardo Montalban, and Betty Garrett.  This film features the Academy Award-winning song “Baby, It's Cold Outside,” by Frank Lesser. The release also has a robust amount of extras, and we discuss them in detail.And third, we review the witty THE PRINCE AND THE SHOWGIRL (1957) starring Marilyn Monroe and Laurence Olivier, who also directed.  This British romantic comedy was the first film produced by Monroe's production company at Warner Bros.  This new Blu-ray release finally restores the film to the proper aspect ratio and with the new HD scan and audio clean-up, is a tremendous upgrade from all previous releases.Pre-order on Amazon:Flamingo Road Blu-rayNeptune's Daughter Blu-rayThe Prince and the Showgirl Blu-rayHorror Sucks Ashley and Carter think horror sucks... except sometimes it doesn't. Together they pore...Listen on: Apple Podcasts Spotify The Extras Facebook pageThe Extras Twitter Warner Archive & Warner Bros Catalog GroupOtaku Media produces podcasts, behind-the-scenes extras, and media that connect creatives with their fans and businesses with their consumers. Contact us today to see how we can work together to achieve your goals. www.otakumedia.tv

In our terrific tenth episode, we delve into the hallucinogenic possibilities of the most surreal movie genre of them all -- the musical! And as strange as the musical is, it was the most normie form of entertainment for a good chunk of the 20th Century, and is still capable of giving us the utter batshit weirdness of CATS from time to time. For our first film, we go back to the height of MGM and the technicolor musical for ON THE TOWN from 1949 where Gene Kelly, Frank Sinatra and Jules Munshin are a trio of horny sailors looking for love and destroying brontosaurus fossils while on 24-hour leave in New York City. Along the way, they meet Ann Miller as a beautiful woman scientist who's smitten with Munshin because he looks like a neanderthal; Betty Garrett as an aggressively amorous cabbie with a hankering for Frank; and Very-Ellen as "Miss Turnstiles," the object of Kelly's affections and the subject of the movie's dreamlike dance sequences. With satire that still lands and groundbreaking location cinematography, this one was a big hit with young stoners Cory & Philena. In our second feature, British director Ken Russell and Roger Daltry of The Who, fresh off their success in TOMMY, get even weirder with the rock opera for LISZTOMANIA (1975), an anachronism-heavy take on the life of Hungarian composer (1811-1886), a long-haired heartthrob who sent young women into fits of hysteria. Russell's obsessions with sex, paganism and Third Reich iconography are all on display here as this movie is chock full o' towering dicks, bare breasts and Nazi vampires. Plus we have the lead singer of The Who being enveloped by a mammoth vagina, Ringo Starr as the Pope, AND Nell Campbell from Rocky Horror Picture Show completing her mission to be in the weirdest musicals of 1975. And Rick Wakeman converted the music of Liszt into its prog rock synth score and plays Thor in a way you'll never see the thunder god portrayed in the MCU. Weed recs are definitely essential for this one. Both movies are currently streaming on HBOMax. I just checked and they're still there but watch 'em while you can before HBO is nothing but Ghost Adventures spinoffs. Sorry for some of the audio hiccups here. Weed recommendations are in the episode along with Bob Calhoun's special tribute to his friend "Judo" Gene LeBell, the legendary martial artist, pro wrestler and Hollywood stuntman. Hosts: Bob Calhoun, Cory Sklar, and Philena Franklin Producers: Bob Calhoun & Cory Sklar

Happy Birthday to Tatiana Riabouchinska, Betty Garrett, and Tai Jimenez! --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/dawn-davis-loring/support

We had a great conversation with Producer & Writer Lloyd J. Schwartz on The Chris & Sandy Show. We talked about so many things from his Classic Couples Counseling, his life growing up with his father Sherwood Schwartz, some about The Brady Bunch & Gilligans Island, he told some really amazing stories to a whole lot more!Lloyd J. Schwartz is the playwright. A man of all media, he wrote for the TV series Love, American Style; Alice; The Munsters Today; The A Team, The Love Boat, Baywatch and more. As an ABC network executive, he supervised production on Happy Days, Laverne and Shirley, What's Happening and Three's Company. With his father, TV legend Sherwood Schwartz, he co-created Harper Valley P.T.A. Lloyd also produced numerous iterations of the Brady Bunch and Gilligan's Island franchises (created by Sherwood) for feature films, television and stage. With his wife Barbara, Lloyd created the long-running Storybook Theatre at Theatre West. He has also had 34 produced plays.CLASSIC COUPLES COUNSELING OPENS APRIL 1 AT THEATRE WEST. THIS PRODUCTION HAS BROADWAY POTENTIAL TELEVISION WRITER/PRODUCER OF THE BRADY BUNCH & GILLIGANS ISLANDLLOYD SCHWARTZ IS THE WRITER/ BRAINCHILD BEHIND THIS PRODUCTIONSchwartz said “ I was intrigued with the idea of what would happen if the very troubled Shakespearean characters went to couples therapy. What would it be like if Hamlet and Ophelia sought help? Or Romeo and Juliet? Or MacBeth and Lady MacBeth? Or Othello and Desdemona? or Kate and Petruchio? Would it help? And I then started imagining if the therapist had her own problems which would make her patient's problems even worse. And it leads to a group therapy where they are all there, and whatever problems they have get even worse. CLASSIC COUPLES COUNSELING is a comedy that pokes fun at Shakespeare's most famous couples...a comedy about tragedies. Or as Shakespeare said in "A ;Midsummer's Night Dreram:" "Oh, what fools these mortals. be."Established in 1962, Theatre West is the oldest continually running professional theatre company in the city of Los Angeles. It is a membership collective of actors, playwrights, directors, and technicians. Theatre West's alumni members include Ray Bradbury, Beau Bridges, Richard Dreyfuss, Sally Field, Betty Garrett, Martin Landau, Lee Meriwether, Jack Nicholson, Carroll O'Connor, Sherwood Schwartz, Joyce Van Patton, and Paul Winfield. Theatre West has produced more than 300 plays and musicals. Of these plays, nearly 70% are original works developed in its workshops and many have led to Broadway, regional tours, and feature films including A Bronx Tale by Chazz Palminteri and A Very Brady Musical by Lloyd Schwartz and Hope Juber. Our season continues with Moose on the Loose by Dina Morrone in June 2022, and Storybook Theatre's Goldilocks and the Three Bears is running Saturday matinees until June 2022. Theatre West is supported in part by The Ahmanson Foundation, California Arts Council, Los Angeles Department of Cultural Affairs, Kaplan-Loring Foundation, and Peter Glenville Foundation.#BradyBunch #Gilligansisland #TVLegend

In this conclusion of a memorable two-part episode, veteran screen and stage actress Sally Struthers regales Gilbert and Frank with entertaining backstage tales from "All in the Family," "The Gilmore Girls" and the all-female production of Neil Simon's "The Odd Couple," while sharing personal recollections of Joan Crawford, David Frost, Betty Garrett, Liz Torres and her idol and hero Ruth Gordon. Also, Burgess Meredith philosophizes, Katharine Hepburn paints a birthday card, Sally "gooses" Dennis the Menace and Mel Blanc shows off his vanity license plate. PLUS: Burt Mustin! "Harold and Maude"! "The Great Houdini"! The genius of Rupert Holmes! Colonel Potter goes to Russia! And Sally dates the King of Rock 'n' Roll and...wait for it...Pat McCormick! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Broadway-bound songsmith Frank Loesser wrote “Baby It’s Cold Outside” as a call-and-response duet for he and his wife to perform at parties. Several years later, the tune made its way into a movie and soon took the Christmas canon by storm. But is it a “rapey” relic of a bygone era that should be buried permanently in the winter snow? Amna Khalid investigates.Happy New Year! In the warm and generous spirit of the holidays, we’re offering 30% off a subscription to Booksmart Studios until the end of the year. You’ll get extra written content and access to bonus segments and written transcripts like this one. More importantly, you’ll be championing all the work we do here. Become a member of Booksmart Studios today. Thank you for your support.* TRANSCRIPT *MAN: Thank you, thank you, thank you. Do we have any more requests?WOMAN: Baby, It's Cold Outside!MAN: I think we can make that happen. Who wants to take the duet?AMNA KHALID: In the new Netflix rom-com Love Hard, Josh volunteers to sing a duet with his girlfriend — his pretend girlfriend, actually — Natalie:JOSH: Natalie and I got this one, Dad.KHALID: The two are out caroling with his family in snowy Lake Placid.NATALIE: Over my cold, dead, lifeless body. I am not singing that — that is like the sexual assault theme song.KHALID: Natalie refuses at first to sing that Christmas song, because, you know, it's that song — the one in which a man is possibly pressuring a woman into spending the night. But Josh has an idea.JOSH: Look, this is what we’re gonna do, okay? You just do your part. I will change my lyrics so the song doesn't sound so, uh, rapey. NATALIE: Fine, let's just get this over with.JOSH: Dad, hit it. 🎶NATALIE: I really can’t stayJOSH: No problem, there’s the doorNATALIE: I’ve got to go awayJOSH: I hear you, say no moreNATALIE: This evening has beenJOSH: Totally consensualNATALIE: So very niceJOSH: I hope you get home safe tonightKHALID: It's become fashionable in recent years to alter the lyrics of Baby, It's Cold Outside to make them less “rapey,” as the character Josh put it. Others have pushed back, however. The song, they claim, is about a desirous woman battling not the unwanted advances of her date but the unsolicited judgment of society.🎶LYNN GARLAND: I really can't stayFRANK LOESSER: But Baby, it's cold outsideGARLAND: I've got to go awayLOESSER: But Baby, it's cold outsideGARLAND: This evening has been —LOESSER: Been hoping that you'd drop inGARLAND: So very niceLOESSER: I'll hold your hands, they're just like iceKHALID: I'm Amna Khalid. On this episode of Banished, The Bother with Baby.CHRIS WILLMAN: The song was written in 1944 as a song that Frank Loesser and his wife originally sang at a housewarming party.KHALID: Chris Willman is a longtime music journalist, currently at Variety.WILLMAN: Kind of like, the night’s about to end, we’re about to kick you out, and here’s a song about whether to stay or whether to go.KHALID: Wow, I would have loved to be at that party.WILLMAN: Oh, yeah. And apparently they performed it over a period of years to the point that, when it was licensed for a film in 1949, Frank Loesser’s wife resented it. She may have been joking, but she was resentful that it was no longer their private thing because they were such a hit on the party circuit with it.KHALID: The song existed in private for five years, sung only by Loesser and his wife Lynn Garland. The two made one of the very first recordings of the song, which we’re listening to now. 🎶LOESSER: Baby, make my conscious your guideGARLAND: I really can't stay LOESSER: Oh, Baby, don't hold outGARLAND AND LOESSER: Ah but it's cold outsideLOESSER/GARLAND in the clearKHALID: Baby was evocative of the holidays, it was redolent of cigarettes and booze and, yes, it was sexually suggestive.GARLAND: And it was our song.KHALID: That’s Lynn Garland from the documentary Heart and Soul: The Life and Music of Frank Loesser:GARLAND: And we became the most desired guests at parties from coast to coast. And we never failed to slam.KHALID: Garland recalled once that, "Parties were built around our being the closing act.”🎶LOESSER: I thrill when you touch my handGARLAND: But don't you see? LOESSER: How can you do this thing to me?KHALID: It was merely the opening act, however, for the song itself. Baby was such a sensation at private gatherings that Loesser worked it into his score for the 1949 movie Neptune's Daughter. This would be the first time anyone heard the song outside of someone’s living room.WILLMAN: And when it went public in 1949 it kind of exploded. Immediately, people started covering it. My favorite version of the song, by Johnny Mercer and Margaret Whiting. I think that was the biggest hit anyone had with it that year.🎶WHITING: I really can't stayMERCER:  But Baby, it's cold outsideWHITING: I've got to go awayMERCER: But Baby, it's cold outsideWHITING: This evening has beenMERCER: Been hoping that you'd drop inWHITING: So very niceMERCER: I'll hold your hands, they're just like iceKHALID: No fewer than 10 separate recordings were made in 1949 alone. Bing Crosby, Bob Hope, Doris Day, Dinah Shore. They all put their stamp on the song, but the version you’re probably most familiar with is the one that Chris Willman prefers. The one you hear on adult contemporary radio stations every December, when they switch over to an all holiday format. The classic recording by Johnny Mercer and Margaret Whiting.🎶WHITING: To break the spell MERCER: I'll take your hat, your hairs looks swellWHITING: I ought to say no, no, no sir MERCER: Mind if I move in closer?WILLMAN: I like it partly because it sounds like 1949. It really puts you in that era where these people are really playing out these roles. I think when people do modern versions it sounds kind of ridiculous because you don’t really buy it, that they have to go through this dance. It’s coming through the same radio where we hear all these incredibly sexually — not just suggestive but explicit songs — and so it’s hard to hear modern singers and still have that sense of reserve and that there are these restrictions on what they have to go through. And for some reason the sexual heat seems more intensified to me when it sounds like it’s happening in that era. Johnny Mercer sounds horny when he’s doing it.KHALID: Yeah!WILLMAN: And Margaret Whiting too. And then, you know, when you hear Willie Nelson and Norah Jones doing it, it’s just not the same.KHALID: And that’s precisely the question for many modern listeners of the song. It may be apparent that Mercer feels the “sexual heat” — but what about Margaret Whiting? Is she feeling it too? That all depends on how you choose to interpret the lyrics, or, in the case of Neptune’s Daughter, what you choose to see on the screen.🎶ESTHER WILLIAMS: I really can't stayRICARDO MONTALBAN: Baby, it's cold outsideWILLIAMS: I've got to go awayMONTALBAN: But Baby, it's cold outsideKHALID: In the 1949 movie, Ricardo Montalban repeatedly tugs at the arm of Esther Williams. He pulls her gently back onto the couch and even removes her hat and stole when she puts them on to leave. To 21st century sensibilities, this pas de deux can seem more predatory than playful. But that's not likely the way that audiences viewed it 70 plus years ago, when Baby won best original song at the 22nd Academy Awards.COLE PORTER: The winner is Frank Loser for “Baby It’s Cold Outside.” (Applause)KHALID: That was Cole Porter presenting Loesser with his one and only Oscar, for a song that stumbled from parlor to parlor on the party circuit, into the motion pictures and onto your Spotify holiday playlist. Or maybe you’ve deleted it from the playlist. Because it’s that song. Chris Willman.WILLMAN: And I never imagined it being controversial, in my naïvete. And then I remember going to an Aimee Mann Christmas show, sometime in the early 2000s I think. And she was having a dialogue onstage with a comedian, and they started talking about quote/unquote rapey the song was and why doesn’t anybody notice that — comically taking off on some of the more sort of, possibly predatorial aspects that people might pick up on in the song. And then all of a sudden in the late 2000s, this becomes a serious topic of debate. And that kind of shocked me, how seriously people were taking the idea that the song was quote-unquote “rapey.”REPORTER: A Bay-area radio station has now yanked the song from its airwaves.REPORTER: Well you won’t be hearing it on WDOK in Cleveland. The radio station’s decided to pull the song from their playlist.WOMAN: You know, it’s a sweet, flirty, fun holiday song.REPORTER: Is it a song about Christmas or creepy behavior? That’s the debate that has led radio station KOIT to ban a popular holiday tune from the airwaves.REPORTER: And you know what? It’s giving people yet another thing to disagree about.WILLMAN: Really in the late 2000s was when it reached peak controversy with radio stations suddenly banning it. The CBC said they were taking it off the air in Canada. There were stations in San Francisco and Denver and somewhere else that said we’re getting rid of the song. But certainly there were lots of serious essays being written too, from a feminist perspective, about how times have changed, people need to recognize that the song celebrates sexual coersion. And then there was the backlash to the backlash from people like me, saying: No, this song is not what you think it is or what you’ve come to believe it is. It’s actually very feminist, very sex-positive to use kind of a corny term.KHALID: According to Chris Willman and other fans of the song, it’s a mistake to interpret the song as if it were written today. Not only is that ahistorical, it’s simply incorrect. Simply put, the song doesn’t mean what many think it means.WILLMAN: People who read it as a date rape song would seize on things like What’s in this drink? As if the guy had placed a drug in her drink. Which is a very contemporary reading because nobody was talking about date rape drugs in 1949, and the, you know, real interpretation of the lyric is that it’s just a strong drink. But reading further into it, she’s trying to pass off the excuse for her own sexual desire onto these things like, “It must be the alcohol affecting me.” But she is the one saying maybe just a cigarette more or maybe half a drink more. It’s really about her putting up every excuse she can think of for why people might not think it was right that she spent the night. You know, one of the key lines to me is I ought to say no, no, no. She’s not saying I want to say no, no, no. It’s I ought to. Just in that word choice alone I think you understand where the song is coming from circa 1949, those expectations of society.🎶ELLA FITZGERALD: I really can't stayLOUIS JORDAN: But Baby, it's cold outsideFITZGERALD: I got to go awayJORDAN: But Baby, it's cold outsideKHALID: In the mid-1940s, the idea that a woman would desire casual sex was taboo. For her to say as much explicity would be deemed “prurient” by network censors, and so Loesser had no choice but to employ subtext. 🎶FITZGERALD: And father will be pacing the floorJORDAN: Listen to the fireplace roarKHALID: In the version you’re listening to now, also recorded in 1949, you hear Ella Fitzgerald chafing at the double standard, when her reputation as a Lady would be ruined if word got out that she stayed the night. Meanwhile, Louis Jordan is free to plead his case for a one-night stand.🎶BETTY CARTER: I really can't stay RAY CHARLES: Betty, it's cold outsideKHALID: Loesser uses musical counterpoint to underscore that Baby is more conversation than conquest. It’s a technique you may recall from his opening number to Guys and Dolls — but his mastery of it is evident in the brilliant 1961 recording of Baby by Ray Charles and Betty Carter. Here Carter emerges from the stifling hypocrisy of the 1950s onto the cusp of a more liberated decade. Both Charles and Carter are softly stepping onto each others’ toes as they negotiate their roles and desires.🎶CHARLES: Beautiful, please don’t hurry.CARTER: Well, maybe just a half a drink moreCHARLES: Why don’t you put some records on while I pour CARTER: The neighbors might thinkCHARLES: Betty, it’s bad out there CARTER: Say, what’s in this drink? CHARLES: No cabs to be had out thereKHALID: Carter is perhaps weary of having to pretend and — without her friends and family fretting and finger-wagging — might make known her own sexual appetite. That’s what Lady Gaga did when she and Joseph Gordon-Levitt gender swapped the parts back in 2013 on the Muppets Holiday Spectacular:🎶GORDON-LEVITT: I really can't stay GAGA:  But Baby, it's cold outsideGORDON-LEVITT: I've got to go away GAGA: But Baby, it's cold outsideGORDON-LEVITT: This evening has been GAGA: Been hoping that you'd drop inGORDON-LEVITT: So very nice GAGA: I'll hold your hands, they're just like iceKHALID: But Gaga wasn’t the first woman to bare her libido in the song.WILLMAN: The woman who helped popularize the song, Zooey Deschanel in Elf, she’s part of a duo called She & Him. They introduced it into their repertoire when they made a Christmas album (and they’re doing a tour this year) where they did a role reversal on the song. I think that’s alright. I mean, there’s a tradition of doing a role reversal with the song that goes back to the original movie, Neptune’s Daughter, where first you see Ricardo Montalban and Esther Williams doing it the way you know it. And then there’s a more comedic reprise where Red Skelton and I believe Betty Garrett do it and she’s virtually attacking him to the point that it almost seems really predatorial in that regard.🎶SKELTON: I really can't stay GARRETT:  But Baby it's cold outsideSKELTON: I've got to go away GARRETT: But Baby it's cold outsideSKELTON: This evening has been GARRETT: Been hoping that you'd drop inSKELTON: So very nice GARRETT: I'll hold your hands, they're just like iceWILLMAN: But then to hear Zooey Deschanel say that the only way they could do the song on their Christmas tour was to do the role reversal … made me kind of sad.KHALID: For those who find Baby creepy, a role reversal, it turns out, is not the only way to perform the song. I said at the beginning that it’s become fashionable in recent years to simply rewrite the song. In 2016, Lydia Liza and Josiah Lemanski performed their updated lyrics on the Minnesota radio station The Current.🎶LIZA: I really can't stayLEMANSKI: Baby I'm fine with thatLIZA: I've got to go away LEMANSKI: Baby I'm cool with thatLIZA: This evening has been LEMANSKI: Been hoping that you get home safeLIZA: So very nice LEMANSKI: I'm glad you had a real good timeLIZA: My mother will start to worry LEMANSKI: Call her so she knows you are comingLIZA: Father will be pacing the floor LEMANSKI: Better get your car a-hummingLIZA: So really I'd better scurry LEMANSKI: Take your time.LIZA: Should I use the front or back door?LEMANSKI: Which one are you pulling towards more?KHALID: The video of this performance has been viewed well over a million times on YouTube alone. And that romantic comedy Love Hard — the one in which Josh changes the lyrics to make them less “rapey” — that’s been showing up on lists of the year’s best Christmas movies.🎶NATALIE: Or maybe just a half a drink more.JOSH: Slow down, that’s quite a pour. NATALIE: The neighbors might think JOSH: Just my old friend Troy NATALIE: Say what's in this drink? JOSH: It’s just Lemon La CroixNATALIE: I wish I knew how JOSH: To take a hint? NATALIE: To break the spell JOSH: Do you know how to spell farewell? NATALIE: I ought to say no, no, no. JOSH: I’ll call you an Uber, they’re close. NATALIE: At least I can say I tried. JOSH: I feel like you’re not trying at all. NATALIE: I really can’t stay.JOSH: Well, maybe just go out. NATALIE: But Baby, it’s cold outside. JOSH: But Baby, just go outside. KHALID: Some of these rewritten versions are admittedly clever and funny, but I confessed to Chris Willman that the controversy took me quite by surprise.KHALID: And in part, I should say, it’s because of where I come from. You know, I come from Pakistan and I’ve grown up with Bollywood films — Bollywood films of the 70s and 80s — and, in that time period, any kind of explicit reference to sex or a sexual encounter or desire was, of course, not considered socially acceptable. Hence all these songs in Bollywood films. That’s their purpose, it’s to be suggestive. And this trope of one of them saying stay — usually the guy — and the girl saying No I must go because look at what the world will say if I stay is so commonplace in Bollywood. Have we gone to the other extreme where we’ve lost the sense of what constitutes romance and by overemphasizing the need for explicit consent and reading everything through that lens?WILLMAN: Well it’s funny, that comes up when people have done rewritten lyrics, where they’re emphasizing consent. And I think initially that was done  satirically, like at every turn the guy is saying, Well, yeah, maybe you should go … Get outta here, I’ll … sure, I’ll call Uber. And I thought that was a funny take on it, but then you see people seriously rewriting it. And first off the song is hilarious. Let’s just say that. It’s a comedic song. And when you’re gonna take the comedy out of it, along with the dance of seduction or agreement or whatever is happening and say, Would you sign this contract please? There’s not much of a song at that point. You know, it’s such a masterpiece, really, of songwriting — the way the rhyme scheme happens between the two different parts simultaneously back and forth, you know it’s very sophisticated as a duet. To take all that away and say that nothing is important about the rhymes, or the themes or the general tone of the song is really to lose the point.🎶“Baby, It’s Cold Outside” (1949) in DanishWILLMAN: You know, it holds such a unique place in the Christmas canon, even though it’s not a Christmas song, because it is flirty and racy and you just hear so much Christmas music that is not really about romance. Or if it is, it's extremely schmaltzy. To hear two people come on who are suddenly expressing real feelings in these very funny and literate lyrics, there’s nothing else on the radio like it. There’s nothing that funny or that sexy in the Christmas music canon, and so even the people that think they should be offended by it can’t bring themselves to get rid of it.KHALID: And that’s perhaps the song’s single greatest contradiction. Why hold onto it at all if we have to censor it? And yet there it is, year after year. More than 450 covers of the song and counting. Role reversals and rewrites and translations, including this Danish language recording that is among the very oldest, from 1949.If you liked what you heard today, help us spread the word and support our work at Booksmart Studios. Become a paying subscriber and you will get access to full interviews, bonus segments, written columns and more.Don’t forget to rate what you've heard here today on whichever platform you listen on and leave a comment so we know what you think. Our success here at Booksmart depends as much on you as on us.Banished is produced by Matthew Schwartz and Mike Vuolo. And I, as always, am Amna Khalid.CORRECTION: In an earlier version of this piece, the singer of the duet with Ray Charles was misidentified as Betty Page. The actual singer was Betty Carter. This is a public episode. If you’d like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit banished.substack.com/subscribe

Aujourd'hui, on se penche sur un de nos films préférés, Un jour à New York (On The Town), qui sera projeté lors de la première séance de notre cinema club le dimanche 3 octobre 2021 (plus d'info sur nos réseaux sociaux) ! Dans la première partie de l'épisode, on évoque la pièce de 1944 dont le film est adapté. Bernstein, Comden & Green, Kelly & Donen, Arthur Freed et la MGM, Frank Sinatra, Ann Miller, Betty Garrett… la crème de la crème de la comédie musicale est au rendez-vous dans cet épisode ! Plus d'info : https://allthatjazzpodcast.wordpress.com/2021/09/28/cinema-club-un-jour-a-new-york-on-the-town/

Let's head to prom! The WPMT premiere of “Best Foot Forward” is now live on YouTube, Facebook, Spotify and all major podcast platforms! This 1949 audio broadcast stars Betty Garrett, Eileen Wilson, Gordon MacRae, Jerome Cowan, Joe Kearns and (from the original 1941 Broadway cast) Gil Stratton Jr., and features hit songs “Three Men on a Date,” “Buckle Down, Winsocki,” “Ev'ry Time” and more! Happy listening!Edited by Remington CleveNew episodes every Tuesday at 1pm CT!

Founder of Garrett Speaker International, Betty Garrett, CMP, has been active in the meetings industry over four decades. She came to Texas from Louisiana with the burning desire to work for an airline and her dream came true when Braniff International hired her. Betty was able to transfer her skills from the airline to meeting planning at Young President’s Organization, the business travel department at Mary Kay Cosmetics and Meeting Professionals International (MPI). She developed relationships with the many professional speakers she hired for her programs, so it was a natural progression to start GSI. Working as a speaker bureau owner, Betty realized there was a gap between ordinary speakers and those wanting to take their speaking career to a higher level. She has implemented a new division within GSI to coaching speakers on how to “get bureau ready” and grow their business. These are tips, tools and techniques that will get the traction needed for bureaus and higher paying fees. Betty is also an author, consultant and speaker. When her husband was diagnosed with esophageal cancer, she knew she needed help and there was nothing on the market to assist the caregiver. She authored From Chaos to Control: A Survival Guide for the Cancer Caregiver, a how-to manual for caregivers tending to cancer patients. She also developed the Caregivers Companion to assist caregivers in staying organized with the appointments, treatments, medications, etc. Her website is www.caregiversforcancer.com. Betty is a leader in Meeting Professionals International, having served as chapter president, and was the recipient of the Marion Kershner Memorial Leadership Award by MPI. The National Speakers Association named her the Partner of the Year, plus recently received the Dallas Business Journal award for Women in Business.  http://www.garrettspeakers.com

Alan Jacobson gives "The Treatment" to Gene Kelly's 1949 classic musical, "On the Town," with Frank Sinatra, Gene Kelly, Betty Garrett, Ann Miller, Jules Munshin, and Vera-Ellen.

Old Hollywood REALNESS - Join Kathleen Noll and Philip Estrada as they gab, gush and recap the classic MGM musical "On The Town" (1949) starring Gene Kelly, Frank Sinatra, Jules Munshin, Vera-Ellen, Ann Miller and Betty Garrett. Gene Kelly, Frank Sinatra, and Jules Munshin star as three sailors who get twenty-four hours of shore leave and their misadventures lead to musical numbers, a high speed police chase and love. Turns out New York, New York IS a wonderful town.

Old Hollywood REALNESS is the podcast dedicated to celebrating all the glitz and glamour of the silver screen. Join Kathleen Noll and Philip Estrada as they gab, gush and recap the MGM musical "Neptune's Daughter" (1949) starring Esther Williams, Ricardo Moltalban, Betty Garrett and Red Skelton. Please be patient with us as we work out our sound issues.

Betty Garrett is a veteran CEO of 23 years’ experience with Garrett Speakers International where she is responsible for the daily operations, strategic planning and helping organizations grow their businesses with the RIGHT speaker. While her expertise is being the problem solver for her clients, Betty is also a consultant, author and speaker.

This week, those haphazard halfwits Gill and Roscoe are joined by writer, director, actor, artist and all-round renaissance man, Larry Blamire. Larry is the director of "Dark and Stormy Night" (2009), "The Lost Skeleton of Cadavra" (2001) and "Trail of the Screaming Forehead" (2007). In this interview, he talks about all aspects of filmmaking and writing, his experience of working with veteran actors like Daniel Roebuck, Bob Burns, James Karen and Betty Garrett, as well as his latest project "The Audio Adventure Book of Big Dan Frater Vol 1". This episode may contain traces of Paul Rudd. If Paul Rudd is ingested,please seek medical assistance. Website: www.BodaciousHorror.co.uk Facebook: www.facebook.com/BodaciousHorror Twitter: @BodaciousHorror and @GillRockatansky