Podcast appearances and mentions of bobby chesney

Why is the Supreme Court making some of its most impactful decisions behind closed doors? In this episode, Robin Frazer Clark and Lester Tate welcome Professor Stephen Vladeck, author of the bestselling book The Shadow Docket, to discuss the rise of stealth rulings by the U.S. Supreme Court. Learn why unsigned and unexplained decisions—affecting everything from immigration to abortion—are becoming more common and why every American should be paying attention.

From August 12, 2020: President Trump recently issued executive orders aimed at banning TikTok and WeChat from operating in the United States. To discuss the sanction, Bobby Chesney sat down with Dr. Sheena Chestnut Greitens, an associate professor at the LBJ School of Public Affairs at the University of Texas at Austin and a faculty affiliate with the Strauss Center for International Security and Law and the Clements Center for National Security at UT; and Dr. Ronald Deibert, a professor of political science and the founder and director of The Citizen Lab at the University of Toronto's Munk School of Global Affairs and Public Policy. In addition to the executive orders concerning TikTok and WeChat, they also discussed the larger U.S.-China relationship and the role of technology competition in that space.To receive ad-free podcasts, become a Lawfare Material Supporter at www.patreon.com/lawfare. You can also support Lawfare by making a one-time donation at https://givebutter.com/c/trumptrials.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

From September 28, 2020: It's been a wild few weeks with President Trump threatening to shut WeChat and TikTok out of the U.S. market and rip them out of the app stores. There have been lawsuits, a preliminary injunction—and a sudden deal to purchase TikTok and moot the issue out. To chew it all over, Benjamin Wittes spoke with Lawfare co-founder Bobby Chesney, a professor at the University of Texas at Austin Law School, and Jordan Schneider, the voice behind the podcast ChinaTalk. They talked about how we got here, whether the threat from these companies is real or whether this is more Trump nonsense, and whether the deal to save TikTok will actually work.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

From January 6, 2020: On Friday, the Lawfare Podcast hosted a conversation on the wide-ranging policy implications of the U.S. strike that killed Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps' leader Qassem Soleimani and Abu Mahdi al-Mohandes, deputy commander of Iraq's quasi-official Popular Mobilization Forces and leader of the Iraqi militia and PMF Keta'ib Hezbollah.Today's special edition episode leaves the policy debate behind to zero-in on the law behind the strike. Law of war and international law experts Scott R. Anderson, Bobby Chesney, Jack Goldsmith, Ashley Deeks and Samuel Moyn join Benjamin Wittes to discuss the domestic and international law surrounding the strike, how the administration might legally justify it, what the president might do next and how Congress might respond.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Delaware State’s Stan Waterman. Donal Ware talks with Delaware State head men’s basketball coach Stan Waterman about the Delaware State program which is in first place in the MEAC and about the upcoming game against UMES. He also talks NFL playoffs, and about the 2024 HBCU football schedule. Download or listen.

FBS lacking HBCU coaches. Donal Ware talks about the hiring of former Florida A&M head football coach Willie Simmons at Duke and why more coaches with HBCU ties are not hired as coordinators or head coaches at FBS schools. Download or listen.

FBS lacking HBCU coaches. Donal Ware talks about the hiring of former Florida A&M head football coach Willie Simmons at Duke and why more coaches with HBCU ties are not hired as coordinators or head coaches at FBS schools. Download or listen.

Delaware State’s Stan Waterman. Donal Ware talks with Delaware State head men’s basketball coach Stan Waterman about the Delaware State program which is in first place in the MEAC and about the upcoming game against UMES. He also talks NFL playoffs, and about the 2024 HBCU football schedule. Download or listen.

From August 12, 2020: President Trump recently issued executive orders aimed at banning TikTok and WeChat from operating in the United States. To discuss the sanction, Bobby Chesney sat down with Dr. Sheena Chestnut Greitens, an associate professor at the LBJ School of Public Affairs at the University of Texas at Austin and a faculty affiliate with the Strauss Center for International Security and Law and the Clements Center for National Security at UT; and Dr. Ronald Deibert, a professor of political science and the founder and director of The Citizen Lab at the University of Toronto's Munk School of Global Affairs and Public Policy. In addition to the executive orders concerning TikTok and WeChat, they also discussed the larger U.S.-China relationship and the role of technology competition in that space.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

If you are interested in a detailed and careful explanation of the charges at issue in United States v. Trump (the recent indictment of the former president in relation to his effort to overturn the results of the election), the way that the alleged facts related to those offenses, and the relatives strengths and weaknesses of the most likely defenses...well, this is the show for you.  Though co-hosts Steve Vladeck and Bobby Chesney originally planned to discuss an array of topics in addition to reviewing the latest indictment of the former president, they ended up spending the entire hour on this one.

Well, it's been about a month, so it's good we are finally back with a fresh episode!  Tune in as hosts Steve Vladeck and Bobby Chesney kick the tires on: The New York Times story (per Charlie Savage) on the Biden Administration's October '22 revised policy guidance on kill/capture operations outside areas of active hostilities Touching base with the will-it-ever-end (no) Nashiri litigation The National Guard, federal court-martial jurisdiction for members not in federal service, and the Fifth Circuit Missouri v. Biden: a stunning injunction (and 155-page underlying memo) limiting the ability of a slew of federal government leaders to work with social media platforms on content moderation And, of course, no shortage of frivolity!  If you are not down with the frivolity, you definitely want to skip the first six minutes.  Well, maybe a lot more than that... :)

Today's episode focuses on the indictment in United States v. Donald Trump and Waltine Nauta, S.D. Fla. (23-80101-CR).  Co-hosts Steve Vladeck and Bobby Chesney walk you through the factual allegations, the crimes charged, the areas where tricky evidence questions might arise, the process for selecting the presiding judge, and the prospects for an array of things including: recusal; a Presidential Records Act defense; a I-declassified-this-stuff defense; a pre-verdict Rule 29 motion for judgment of acquittal; and a trial occurring around the time of the election.  Buckle up and tune in!

And we're back, with co-hosts Steve Vladeck and Bobby Chesney breaking down the latest national security law news along with much else.  This week the spotlight is on the D.C. Circuit's en banc decision in al Hela, which grapples with the applicability of the Fifth Amendment Due Process Clause (in both its procedural and substantive aspects) to GTMO detainees.  We've also got an update on the Badilla contractor immunity case (in which Steve plays a role as counsel to the plaintiffs), some Shadow Docket developments, and notes on the prosecutorial aspects of Cold War II.

What's this, a one-week turnaround between shows?  Will wonders never cease? In a throwback to the days of this being a weekly show, your co-hosts Bobby Chesney and Steve Vladeck are back on a quick turnaround in order to debate and discuss: A new seditious conspiracy conviction arising out of Jan. 6 A New York State "material support" prosecution (State v. el Faisal) Various SCOTUS updates Any classified documents that we might have found when cleaning up the ol' office The shocking arrest of the former FBI Special Agent in Charge of the Counterintelligence Division at FBI's NY Field Office on IEEPA (and other) charges relating to secret work for a Russian oligarch....oof. And, as always, some frivolity.

Holiday edition!  Tune in as co-hosts Steve Vladeck and Bobby Chesney discuss the rapid demise of the attempt by Donald Trump's lawyers to use Executive Privilege in relation to the classified documents found at Mar a Lago, the arrival in the US of a former Libyan intelligence officer charged with a key role in the horrific bombing of Pan Am 103 in 1988, the arrival in the US of a Mauritanian man charged with several terrorist attacks in Mali, the arrival in the US of erstwhile crypto exchange entrepreneur Sam Bankman-Fried to face charges stemming from that total dumpster fire.  And, naturally, an indefensible number of detours, digressions, and other forays into frivolity!

From September 23, 2020: Bobby Chesney sat down with former Secretary of Homeland Security Jeh Johnson and Texas Congressman Chip Roy as part of the 2020 Texas Tribune Festival. They discussed Portland, DHS, domestic violence, and even the shortage of civil discourse in our society.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Recently, Charlie Savage of the New York Times reported that the Biden administration had finalized a new policy governing drone strikes used in counterterrorism operations outside war zones. The policy tightens up rules established under the Trump administration—which themselves replaced an earlier guidance set out by President Obama. President Biden's policy is the latest effort to calibrate America's use of force in a 21st-century conflict outside the traditional battlefield.To talk through Charlie's reporting, Lawfare senior editor Quinta Jurecic sat down with him and Lawfare cofounder Bobby Chesney, who has closely observed this area of U.S. law and policy. They discussed how U.S. counterterrorism operations have changed in recent years, how Biden's approach compares to the Obama and Trump policies before it, and the significance of these changes for U.S. counterterrorism going forward. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hello, and welcome back to the National Security Law Podcast, with co-hosts Bobby Chesney and Steve Vladeck! In this episode, we dig into the latest filings in the Mar-a-Lago classified documents/presidential records litigation, emphasizing the mounting reasons to believe that the first charges we might see in relation to all of this will involve not the underlying questions about unlawful retention of presidential records or national defense information, but "investigative offenses" such as obstruction of justice.  We also touch on "Nashiri Day," explaining what that anniversary signifies, as well as a bit on the recent airstrikes conducted by US forces in Syria--against weapons bunkers associated with an Iran-backed group that had earlier launched rockets at a US facility in Syria.

Bobby Chesney is the Dean of the University of Texas School of Law and at the time of our interview, he served as Director of the Strauss Center for International Security and Law – the center who made this podcast possible! On this episode Alex and Bobby define and discuss deep fakes and the philosophical ponderings of what happens when you cannot trust what you see online. We also dive more deeply into the legal implications of disinformation and various attempts to regulate that may impact our first amendment rights. Bobby's scholarship focuses on U.S. national security policies and institutions, encompassing both domestic and international law issues. He's written open-source academic text books on cyber security policy and law as well as intelligence and national security as it dovetails with surveillance and covert action. He is a veritable fount of knowledge and has also focused research around deep fakes, a specific area of disinformation, with Danielle Citron of UVA. Be sure to check out his writing for Lawfare Blog, as well as the National Security Law Podcast. He's on Twitter @bobbychesney.

On this episode, Alex speaks with the illustrious and engaging Christopher C. Krebs. Krebs is an American attorney who served as first Director of the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) in the U.S. Department of Homeland Security from November 2018 to November 2020. In November 2020, President Donald Trump fired Krebs via Tweet for refuting Trump's claims of election fraud in the presidential election. Shortly after this, Mr. Krebs penned an op-ed for The Washington Post in which he asserted himself: “Trump fired me for saying this, but I'll say it again - the election wasn't rigged.” We talk about what the government can and cannot do to bolster security, and how some matters of national security can be threats from within. We are big fans of Krebs and appreciate his service working on security for our country -- at CISA and beyond with his new consulting agency, Krebs Stamos Group, co-founded with former Facebook Chief Security Officer, Alex Stamos. We will also now steal his joke about how CISA loves security so much, they include the word twice in their agency's name. Thank you, Chris! :) This interview took place on March 10, 2022, before Krebs spoke publicly in conversation with Bobby Chesney at the Strauss Center for International Security and Law, as part of their ongoing Brumley Speaker Series.

And we're back, with yet another interminable window of extemporaneous frivolity at the front end of what otherwise is a somewhat serious show about the latest national security law developments and debates (seriously). Listen up as co-hosts Steve Vladeck and Bobby Chesney discuss Russia's denial of combatant immunity to foreign fighters in Ukraine (including some Americans), how this pertains to mercenary status, how it compares to US policies on al Qaeda and Taliban fighters, how this in turn relates to the Abd al-Hadi al-Iraqi plea deal at GTMO, how speaking of GTMO they transferred Gul to Afghanistan, and hey speaking of the Global War on Terrorism (GWOT) there was a capture operation in Syria that seems like it was led by US SOF but who knows who now holds the detainee let alone what legal framework applies and hey maybe it was France because it seems like they've got their own Le GWOT going in the Sahel to include drone strikes taking out several dozen guys on motorcycles plus they also had a capture operation, and [...catching my breath...] meanwhile Steve lost a case about court-appointed prosecutors but maybe that's not the last word because that dissent made some good points.  [EXHALE]

Disinformation and Propaganda 101. On this episode we get critical historical and background information on this subject through discussion with Bryan Jones – a technology entrepreneur, executive and adjunct professor at the University of Texas School of Law. He currently teaches a course called Propaganda, Deception & Manipulation in the Technology Era where he traces the evolution of information warfare, from the 1700s to current day. Central to a lot of Bryan's work is the intersection of democracy and technology. In our conversation we touch on the differences between propaganda and disinformation campaigns, plus the psychology behind how they work and how they became central to modern day political discussions. Bryan also talks about social media and algorithmic optimization to facilitate and accelerate the reach and impact. “A Lot of Good People Told Me” is a podcast exploring the effects of disinformation on the American public. This first season is the culmination of Lyndon Baines Johnson School of Public Affairs graduate Alex Rose's Brumley NextGEN fellowship through the Strauss Center for International Security and Law at the University of Texas at Austin. This policy project explores issues at the intersection of cyber security, journalism and world affairs. On the podcast, Rose interviews experts like Bobby Chesney, Renée DiResta, Christopher Krebs and more to uncover how disinformation and propaganda is disseminated through technology and how it has come to shape our lives. On one episode she speaks with Dr. Scott Debb, a cyber psychologist who illuminates concepts like doomscrolling, confirmation bias and group think. She looks at the decline in trust in public institutions and how disinformation may be responsible. While looking at the security implications, she is also searching for viable policy solutions we can take out into the world to combat the detrimental effects of disinformation while protecting our right to freedom of speech, protected under the first amendment. The music featured on the podcast is composed by Alex Dupree, who also edited every episode and served as a crucial production partner. For more information please visit www.alexrosebb.com or www.strausscenter.org. You can also follow us on instagram @alotofgoodpeopletoldme. Thank you so much to the Strauss Center for helping to bring this project to life. And thank you for listening and engaging with this topic.

Francisco last week at the Rivest-Shamir-Adleman (RSA) conference.  We summarize what they said and offer our views of why they said it. Bobby Chesney, returning to the podcast after a long absence, helps us assess Russian warnings that the U.S. should expect  a “military clash” if it conducts cyberattacks against Russian critical infrastructure. Bobby, joined by Michael Ellis sees this as a routine Russian PR response to U.S. Cyber Command and Director, Paul M. Nakasone's talk about doing offensive operations in support of Ukraine. Bobby also notes the FBI analysis of the NetWalker ransomware gang, an analysis made possible by seizure of the gang's back office computer system in Bulgaria. The unfortunate headline summary of the FBI's work was a claim that “just one fourth of all NetWalker ransomware victims reported incidents to law enforcement.” Since many of the victims were outside the United States and would have had little reason to report to the Bureau, this statistic undercounts private-public cooperation. But it may, I suggest, reflect the Bureau's increasing sensitivity about its long-term role in cybersecurity.   Michael notes that complaints about a dearth of private sector incident reporting is one of the themes from the government's RSA appearances. A Department of Homeland Security Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) executive also complained about a lack of ransomware incident reporting, a strange complaint considering that CISA can solve much of the problem by publishing the reporting rule that Congress authorized last year.  In a more promising vein, two intelligence officials underlined the need for intel agencies to share security data more effectively with the private sector. Michael sees that as the one positive note in an otherwise downbeat cybersecurity report from Avril Haines, Director of National Intelligence. And David Kris points to a similar theme offered by National Security Agency official Rob Joyce who believes that sharing of (lightly laundered) classified data is increasing, made easier by the sophistication and cooperation of the cybersecurity industry.  Michael and I are taking with a grain of salt the New York Times' claim that Russia's use of U.S. technology in its weapons has become a vulnerability due to U.S. export controls.  We think it may take months to know whether those controls are really hurting Russia's weapons production.   Bobby explains why the Department of Justice (DOJ) was much happier to offer a “policy” of not prosecuting good-faith security research under the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act instead of trying to draft a statutory exemption. Of course, the DOJ policy doesn't protect researchers from civil lawsuits, so Leonard Bailey of DOJ may yet find himself forced to look for a statutory fix. (If it were me, I'd be tempted to dump the civil remedy altogether.)   Michael, Bobby, and I dig into the ways in which smartphones have transformed both the war and, perhaps, the law of war in Ukraine. I end up with a little more understanding of why Russian troops who've been flagged as artillery targets in a special Ukrainian government phone app might view every bicyclist who rides by as a legitimate target. Finally, David, Bobby and I dig into a Forbes story, clearly meant to be an expose, about the United States government's use of the All Writs Act to monitor years of travel reservations made by an indicted Russian hacker until he finally headed to a country from which he could be extradited.

Francisco last week at the Rivest-Shamir-Adleman (RSA) conference.  We summarize what they said and offer our views of why they said it. Bobby Chesney, returning to the podcast after a long absence, helps us assess Russian warnings that the U.S. should expect  a “military clash” if it conducts cyberattacks against Russian critical infrastructure. Bobby, joined by Michael Ellis sees this as a routine Russian PR response to U.S. Cyber Command and Director, Paul M. Nakasone's talk about doing offensive operations in support of Ukraine. Bobby also notes the FBI analysis of the NetWalker ransomware gang, an analysis made possible by seizure of the gang's back office computer system in Bulgaria. The unfortunate headline summary of the FBI's work was a claim that “just one fourth of all NetWalker ransomware victims reported incidents to law enforcement.” Since many of the victims were outside the United States and would have had little reason to report to the Bureau, this statistic undercounts private-public cooperation. But it may, I suggest, reflect the Bureau's increasing sensitivity about its long-term role in cybersecurity.   Michael notes that complaints about a dearth of private sector incident reporting is one of the themes from the government's RSA appearances. A Department of Homeland Security Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) executive also complained about a lack of ransomware incident reporting, a strange complaint considering that CISA can solve much of the problem by publishing the reporting rule that Congress authorized last year.  In a more promising vein, two intelligence officials underlined the need for intel agencies to share security data more effectively with the private sector. Michael sees that as the one positive note in an otherwise downbeat cybersecurity report from Avril Haines, Director of National Intelligence. And David Kris points to a similar theme offered by National Security Agency official Rob Joyce who believes that sharing of (lightly laundered) classified data is increasing, made easier by the sophistication and cooperation of the cybersecurity industry.  Michael and I are taking with a grain of salt the New York Times' claim that Russia's use of U.S. technology in its weapons has become a vulnerability due to U.S. export controls.  We think it may take months to know whether those controls are really hurting Russia's weapons production.   Bobby explains why the Department of Justice (DOJ) was much happier to offer a “policy” of not prosecuting good-faith security research under the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act instead of trying to draft a statutory exemption. Of course, the DOJ policy doesn't protect researchers from civil lawsuits, so Leonard Bailey of DOJ may yet find himself forced to look for a statutory fix. (If it were me, I'd be tempted to dump the civil remedy altogether.)   Michael, Bobby, and I dig into the ways in which smartphones have transformed both the war and, perhaps, the law of war in Ukraine. I end up with a little more understanding of why Russian troops who've been flagged as artillery targets in a special Ukrainian government phone app might view every bicyclist who rides by as a legitimate target. Finally, David, Bobby and I dig into a Forbes story, clearly meant to be an expose, about the United States government's use of the All Writs Act to monitor years of travel reservations made by an indicted Russian hacker until he finally headed to a country from which he could be extradited.

“A Lot of Good People Told Me” is a podcast exploring the effects of disinformation on the American public. This introductory episode will define "disinformation" and lay the groundwork for the exploration and information-gathering we'll dive into this season. This first season of "A Lot of Good People Told Me" is the culmination of Lyndon Baines Johnson School of Public Affairs graduate Alex Rose's Brumley NextGEN fellowship through the Strauss Center for International Security and Law at the University of Texas at Austin. This policy project explores issues at the intersection of cyber security, journalism and world affairs. On the podcast, Rose interviews experts like Bobby Chesney, Renée DiResta, Christopher Krebs and more to uncover how disinformation and propaganda is disseminated through technology and how it has come to shape our lives. On one episode she speaks with Dr. Scott Debb, a cyber psychologist who illuminates concepts like doomscrolling, confirmation bias and group think. She looks at the decline in trust in public institutions and how disinformation may be responsible. While looking at the security implications, she is also searching for viable policy solutions we can take out into the world to combat the detrimental effects of disinformation while protecting our right to freedom of speech, protected under the first amendment. The music featured on the podcast is composed by Alex Dupree, who also edited every episode and served as a crucial production partner. For more information please visit www.alexrosebb.com or www.strausscenter.org. You can also follow us on instagram @alotofgoodpeopletoldme. Thank you so much to the Strauss Center for helping to bring this project to life. And thank you for listening and engaging with this topic.

And...we're back, and in less than a month, remarkably!  Tune in as co-hosts Steve Vladeck and Bobby Chesney discuss (1) the latest seditious conspiracy indictment arising out of January 6th, (2) the Navarro contempt of Congress charge, (3) the latest developments in the lawsuits challenging the Texas and Florida social media content-moderation laws, and (4) enforcement of Commerce Department licensing rules designed to prevent certain US-made aircraft from being taken to Russia (or Belarus) and the way this resulted in what ultimately will be a $400m loss for Roman Abramovich.  That, plus more aimless Mets and Star Wars chit-chat than any reasonable person possible could want....

Some of y'all were wondering if the show was done-for now that co-host Bobby Chesney has been named the next dean of the University of Texas School of Law.  But as it turns out, the main impact of that on the show probably will be no more and no less than to take the level of preparation that he and co-host Steve Vladeck put into things to new lows! All of which is a long-winded way of saying: we're back with a fresh episode, this time focused on (1) discussion of the leak(s) associated with the Supreme Court's Dobbs case and (2) a review of what a war-crimes analysis might entail as applied to operation Russia's GRU conducted to shut down Ukraine's grid during the period after the occupation of Crimea but before the outbreak of the current invasion! Ok, there's also a preposterously detailed discussion (in the form of a song-to-song competition) of the relative merits of various Indigo Girls albums.  Seriously?  Seriously.

Ok, ok, it's been a full month since the last episode.  But good things come to those who wait!  We are back, and hope you'll tune in as co-hosts Bobby Chesney and Steve Vladeck discuss the latest in national security legal news, including: The questions associated with neutrality and co-belligerency (and especially "qualified neutrality") in relation to US and allied support to Ukraine in the Ukraine-Russia War The Supreme Court's decision to grant a stay in Lloyd Austin v. U.S. Navy SEALS 1-26, in relation to a district court order (based on the Religious Freedom Restoration Act) barring the Navy from enforcing its policy precluding deployment of personnel who refuse COVID vaccination) Another GTMO detainee (Hassan bin Attash of Yemen) cleared for release A guilty verdict against an Islamic State member (a formerly-British citizen who was part of the quartet known as "the Beatles") charged with involvement in the horrific abuse of captives And, yes, lots and lots of crowing over the early-season success of the Mets, along with other frivolity!

This week on the podcast Bobby Chesney, James Baker Chair at the University of Texas School of Law, and co-founder of the awesome Lawfare.com blog and co-host of the National Security Law podcast, joins us for a discussion on all things cyber legal policy and regulations - and it is fun! We chat about the recent Viasat satellite hack that served dual-purposes for military application and disruption of industries (for example, impacting wind turbines!). He also shares perspective on cyber versus kinetic attacks, space wars, space law vs maritime law parallels and the geography of cyber. Want to learn more about cyber law and policy? Check out Chesney's free eCasebook on Cybersecurity Law, Policy, and Institutions here: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3547103 Bobby Chesney, James Baker Chair in Rule of Law and World Affairs at UT Austin Bobby Chesney holds the James Baker Chair and also serves as the Associate Dean for Academic Affairs at the University of Texas School of Law. In addition, he is the Director of the Robert S. Strauss Center for International Security and Law, a university-wide research unit bridging across disciplines to improve understanding of international security issues. Professor Chesney is a co-founder and contributor to www.lawfareblog.com, the leading source for analysis, commentary, and news relating to law and national security. He also co-hosts the National Security Law Podcast and contributes to the National Security Law Lectures series (which he co-founded with Matt Waxman). In 2021, Professor Chesney was appointed to the Cybersecurity Advisory Committee for the U.S. government's Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency. For links and resources discussed in this episode, please visit our show notes at https://www.forcepoint.com/govpodcast/e178

What a treat we have for you this week!  Assistant Attorney General Matt Olsen, head of DOJ's National Security Division, sits down with co-hosts Bobby Chesney and Steve Vladeck to talk about a wide range of NSD-related topics: the origins of NSD the Section 702 sunset next year indictments against Russian hackers sanctions enforcement focusing on China's commercial espionage and transnational repression the continuing international terrorism threat the growing domestic terrorism threat

Prior to the invasion of Ukraine, Russian cyber and information operations boasted a fearsome reputation. Surprisingly, Russian cyber operations don't seem to have played a major role in the invasion, and Ukrainian information operations have routinely bested often-clumsy Russian efforts. As Christopher Krebs, former director of the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency, explains in this week's Horns of a Dilemma, the Russian invasion was preceded by cyber attacks, but a combination of skilled response by the Ukrainian government and adroit sharing of intelligence by the United States and western partners has blunted the effectiveness of Russian cyber and information operations. Krebs points out that despite the stymied Russian cyber and information campaign (and partly because of its lack of success) this is a very dangerous time in the world of cyber security and information warfare. This conversation was recorded at the University of Texas, Austin, where Krebs spoke on March 10 as part of the Brumley Fellows program at the Strauss Center. The conversation was hosted by Bobby Chesney, director of the Strauss Center.

Former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld is remembered for many things, among them his iconic observation that, "There are known knowns--there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns--that is to say, we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns, the ones we don't know we don't know." The ongoing Russian invasion of Ukraine is full of reminders of the importance of understanding what we know, recognizing what we don't know, and being open to the idea that there is likely more we don't yet know. In order to help make sense of it, the Clements Center for National Security, Asia Policy Program, LBJ School of Public Affairs, Strauss Center for International Security and Law, Intelligence Studies Project, and Center for Russian, East European and Eurasian Studies at the University of Texas, Austin hosted "War in Ukraine: An Expert Panel Discussion" on Wednesday, March 2. The experts included Will Inboden, executive director of the Clements Center (and editor-in-chief of TNSR); Bobby Chesney, director of the Strauss Center; Jeremi Suri, Mack Brown Distinguished Chair for Leadership in Global Affairs at the University of Texas, Austin; Sheena Greitens, founding director of the Asia Policy Program; Stephen Slick, director of the Intelligence Studies Project; Alexandra Sukalo, postdoctoral fellow at the Clements Center; and, Zoltán Fehér, predoctoral fellow at the Clements Center, and a former Hungarian diplomat. This discussion is essential listening for a better understanding of the ongoing aggressive war being waged by Russia and its implications for international security.

Cyber security presents a particular challenge because, in addition to the rapidly changing threat environment and enormous potential attack surface, no single person or organizaiton has authority over all of the players whose cooperation is necessary to keep public and private networks and information secure. In this week's Horns of a Dilemma, Bobby Chesney, director of the Strauss Center at the University of Texas, Austin, speaks with Brandon Wales, executive director of the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA). Wales' job is to ensure effective collaboration in cyber security efforts. In this discussion, he highlights the authorities available to CISA and discusses responses to several recent vulnerabilities. This discussion was held as part of the "Cyber 9/12 Challenge" conducted by the Strauss Center at the University of Texas, Austin.

On this episode of the Arbiters of Truth series, Evelyn Douek and Quinta Jurecic spoke with law professors Bobby Chesney and Danielle Citron about deep fakes—that is, artificial audio and video that can be used to depict a person doing or saying something that they never did or said. They talked about the paper that Bobby and Danielle wrote in 2018 about how deep fakes pose a looming challenge for privacy, democracy, and national security. And with recently circulated, doctored video of Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi and presidential candidate Joe Biden, they talked about how the issue hasn't gone away, as well as the distinction between deep fakes and other less sophisticated forms of editing. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

TikTok has rapidly become one of the most popular apps for teenagers across the world for dancing, lip-syncing and sharing details about their lives. But if you cast your mind back to last year—specifically, August 2020—you may recall that the app's future in the United States suddenly fell into doubt. The Trump administration began arguing that the app's ownership by the Chinese company ByteDance raised problems of national security for the United States. ByteDance was ordered to divest from TikTok, and the app, along with the popular China-based chat app WeChat, faced U.S. sanctions.But you might have noticed that your teenager is still making TikTok videos. And President Biden issued his own executive order last week revoking Trump's sanctions. So, what on earth is happening?On this week's episode of our Arbiters of Truth series on our online information ecosystem, Evelyn Douek and Quinta Jurecic spoke to Bobby Chesney, Lawfare co-founder and Charles I. Francis Professor in Law at the University of Texas School of Law, about what's happened to TikTok over the past year. Bobby brought us up to speed with the Trump administration's offensive on TikTok, why the app has survived so far and why TikTok shouldn't breathe easy just yet about Biden's executive order. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

We are back, and even though one of us apparently cannot work this new tech called a "calendar," we're excited to bring a shorter-than-usual episode without having a whole month go by! Tune in as co-hosts Steve Vladeck and Bobby Chesney discuss and debate: The Biden Administration's change of position on the availability of coerced statements for use in pre-trial proceedings in military commissions The news of the capture, repatriation to the United States, and federal court prosecution of a woman from Kansas who apparently had traveled to Syria to take up arms on behalf of ISIS--and the questions this raises about how long she was held pre-transfer, and in whose custody Civil suits against private military contractors, the varied legal obstacles they face, and updates on some current lawsuits in which Steve is involved--and interesting questions they raise, such as the precise scope of the "combat activities" limitation All that, plus a grab-bag of frivolity including the new Netflix movie based on Robert Harris's Munich book, and of course NFL sportsball happenings!

From July 28, 2020: For a while, there have been large numbers of alleged former Islamic State state fighters and affiliates detained by the Iraqi government and by autonomous authorities in Syria. The fate of these detainees—and the more than 60,000 people in refugee affiliated with the men who live in refugee camps in the region—remains a pressing national security issue for countries in the region, as well as the United States and its Western allies. To talk about the situation, Jacob Schulz spoke with Bobby Chesney, Lawfare co-founder and professor of law at the University of Texas; Vera Mironova, a research fellow at Harvard and, among other things, author of a recent Lawfare post on trials of Islamic State fighters in Iraq; and Leah West, a lecturer at the Norman Paterson School of International Affairs at Carleton University and a fellow at the McCain Institute. They talked about how the trials have gone in Iraq and Syria; how the U.S., Canada and European countries have responded to the situation; and what lessons can be drawn from U.S. experiences with post-9/11 detention and trials of suspected terrorists.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Seeing as how 2022 is well underway, it's probably about time we produced a new episode!  Tune in for co-hosts Steve Vladeck and Bobby Chesney as they discuss and debate: The various international and domestic law questions that might arise in that Russia (further) invades Ukraine The oral argument in Thompson v. Trump (especially the presidential immunity question) The who-owns-the-privilege question in Trump v. Thompson (not a typo) The seditious conspiracy indictment against Oath Keepers leaders What federal statutes have to say about a scenario in which the President might confer authority on a private armed group to "enforce" the law Believe it or not, a judicial change in a military commission More GTMO detainees approved (by Periodic Review Board) for transfer out (though no one actually seems to be leaving) All that plus the usual frivolity, this time featuring the classic combination of (1) Jim Carrey films and (2) NFL playoffs.

From October 15, 2019: A couple of weeks ago, Lawfare and the Strauss Center for International Security and Law sponsored a series of panels at the Texas Tribune Festival. For this episode, we bring you the audio of our Tribfest event on domestic terrorism—what it is, how we define it, how we outlaw it, and what more we can do about it.David Priess sat down with Bobby Chesney, Lawfare co-founder and professor at the University of Texas School of Law, and former U.S. government officials Lisa Monaco, Mary McCord, and Nick Rasmussen.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Welcome to our official Holiday Office Party, where we mainly just hope things will go smoother than they did for the good people of Nakatomi Corporation in 1988! In this episode, co-hosts Steve Vladeck and Bobby Chesney discuss: The state of the criminal contempt of Congress proceedings against Steve Bannon and Mark Meadows The D.C. Circuit's ruling refusing to assert post-presidential decision-making authority to Donald Trump in relation to the records of his presidency held by NARA The SCOTUS cert. grant in Torres (does Congress under its power to raise and support the armed forces have authority to abrogate state sovereign immunity) The SCOTUS cert. denial in Begani The 10th Circuit's ruling in Muhtorov (upholding the Section 702 FISA framework against various challenges) Passage of the NDAA for Fiscal Year '22 All that, plus book recommendations for your holiday shopping convenience, and a Q&A regarding the works of the great Mo Willems (you know: Pigeon, Elephant and Piggie, and Knuffle Bunny).

From February 28, 2015: On Thursday of this week, Lawfare's Benjamin Wittes and Bobby Chesney, along with General Jack Keane, appeared before the House Armed Services Committee to provide “Outside Perspectives on the President's Proposed Authorization for the Use of Military Force Against the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant.”The hearing grappled with a number of difficult and vitally necessary questions: What exactly does "enduring ground combat operations" mean? Should the AUMF sunset after three years? And, does a new AUMF accomplish anything if it is not tied to the existing authorities present in the 2001 AUMF? The discussion delved deeply into the President's proposed AUMF, its merits and its flaws, and how those failings can be addressed.Note: The Podcast has been edited for length and content; only the most relevant parts of the discussion are included.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

More than 11 years ago. Bobby Chesney, Jack Goldsmith and Ben started a national security law blog called Lawfare. Focused, almost exclusively on issues related to the US government's reaction to 9/11 and the reactions to those government policies and the legal justifications for them in its early days, Lawfare was largely unknown to the general public outside of national security lawyers inside the U S government Lawfare didn't even have a podcast.Jack and Ben joined me to talk through these origins of Lawfare, it's intimate connection to 9/11 and its aftermath, and the importance of analyzing these issues at the intersection of national security, law, and policy.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

This week on the National Security Law Podcast, we mark 20 years since the 9/11 attacks.  Tune in as co-hosts Steve Vladeck and Bobby Chesney share their views on the major legal developments unleashed by that awful day, in a broad retrospective on the era.

From August 4, 2018: Technologies that distort representations of reality, like audio, photo and video editing software, are nothing new, but what happens when these technologies are paired with artificial intelligence to produce hyper-realistic media of things that never happened? This new phenomenon, called "deep fakes," poses significant problems for lawyers, policymakers, and technologists.On July 19, Klon Kitchen, senior fellow for technology and national security at the Heritage Foundation, moderated a panel with Bobby Chesney of the University of Texas at Austin Law School, Danielle Citron of the University of Maryland Carey School of Law, and Chris Bregler, a senior computer scientist and AI manager at Google. They talked about how deep fakes work, why they don't fit into the current legal and policy thinking, and about how policy, technology and the law can begin to combat them.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

We're back with another round of discussion and debate featuring co-hosts Steve Vladeck and Bobby Chesney, working through the latest national security law developments. Tune in for: The end of the decade-long run of General Mark Martins as Chief Prosecutor at GTMO The interagency debate within the Biden Administration regarding whether to concede that the Due Process Clause applies to GTMO detainees (either in the habeas context or more broadly), in connection with the al-Hela litigation currently pending before the en banc D.C. Circuit Interstate deployments (without federalization) of state national guard forces, and the state-level separation-of-powers issues arguably raised by private funding of NG activities OLC's opinion on the removal power New life for the US effort to extradite Julian Assange from the UK Donald Trump attempting to invoke the First Amendment as the basis for a civil action challenging the actions of (private) social-media companies Brief notes on the parallel between the so-far-unsuccessful efforts to deter both attacks on US forces in Iraq and ransomware attacks emanating from Russia And as always, there's much frivolity both at the start and the finish!

In this episode of Horns of a Dilemma, Nicole Perlroth, author of This is How the Word Ends: The Cyber Weapons Arms Race, sits down with Bobby Chesney, director of the Strauss Center, to discuss the increasing complexity and sophistication of attacks on U.S infrastructure and the challenges presented in defending against cyber attacks.

Wollte man den Titel dieser Episode etwas gelehrter ausdrücken könnte man vielleicht sagen: Das Fenster der vermittelten Authentizität, das das 20. Jahrhundert geprägt hat, schließt sich gerade. Und es schließt sich in bemerkenswertem Tempo. Bitte die Referenzen unten ansehen: dort finden sich alle in der Episode genannten Bilder. Vor Ende des 19. Jahrhunderts gab es keine Mittel technischer Reproduktion der »Wirklichkeit«, also weder Photographie, noch Film noch Tonaufnahmen. Diese analogen Reproduktionstechniken haben einen interessanten »Sweetspot«: sie sind schnell, billig und effektiv genug um die Welt mit Abbildungen von Ereignissen über weite Strecken zu versorgen, aber unflexibel genug, dass Manipulation und Fälschung verhältnismässig aufwändig sind. So haben wir im 20. Jahrhundert natürlich Fälschungen gesehen, aber diese waren im Vergleich zu den authentischen Medien vergleichsweise selten. Robert Capa, Death of a loylist soldier (Spanischer Bürgerkrieg) Im Augenblick entstehen technische aber extrem einfach zugängliche technische Mittel (Software, Smartphones), die glaubwürdige Manipulationen oder Fabrikationen beliebiger Medien für Jedermann ermöglichen – auch Deep Fakes genannt. In dieser Episode bespreche ich den geschichtlichen Hintergrund der technischen Innovationen, wie wesentliche Information vor dem 20. Jahrhundert vermittelt wurde – auch am Beispiel der Schlachtenmalerei – und wo wir uns heute hinbewegen. Ich zeige, wie analoge Medien gefälscht wurden, warum dies aber nur ein vergleichsweise kleines Problem war. Dann diskutiere ich, was Deep Fakes eigentlich manipulieren und was Authentizität in der vermittelten Abbildung der Welt für uns bedeutet? Wie werden wir (bald) damit umgehen, wenn jeder 14 Jährige auf der ganzen Welt: eine Podcast-Episode erstellen kann, in der vermeintlich Joe Rogan mit Donald Trump oder Barack Obama spricht; ein YouTube Video, wo ein bekannter Journalist die Bundeskanzlerin interviewt; einen Film, in dem Tom Cruise mit Marilyn Monroe gemeinsam auf dem Motorrad fährt; oder ein unappetitliches Video anfertigt und online stellt oder über Plattformen teilt, dass eine Klassenkameradin in einer pornographischen Situation zeigt? All diese Medien werden kaum oder gar nicht von echten Aufnahmen unterscheidbar sein und all diese Medien werden, wie gesagt, mit äußerst geringen Sachkenntnissen und ubiquitär verfügbaren Computern hergestellt werden können. Können wir diese Entwicklung noch verhindern? Die Effekte eingrenzen? Können wir das Vertrauen in vermittelte Realität wieder zurückgewinnen, sollte es einmal durch einen Tsunami an solchen Deep Fakes zerstört worden sein? Referenzen Andere Episoden Episode 4 und Episode 5: Was will Technologie? Episode 30: (Techno-)Optimismus – ein Gespräch mit Tim Pritlove Episode 40: Software Nachhaltigkeit, ein Gespräch mit Philipp Reisinger Episode 15: Innovation oder Fortschritt? Fachliche Referenzen (an)sichten Blog: The Closing Window auf Mediated Authenticity Stalin und Photo-Manipulationen Die sowjetische Flagge am Berliner Reichstag 1945 Robert Capa, der fallende Soldat: Philipp Blom, Der taumelnde Kontinent, dtv (2011) Bobby Chesney, Danielle Citron, Deep Fakes: A Looming Challenge for Privacy, Democracy, and National Security (2019) Pedro J. Colombo, Der Photograph von Mauthausen, Tahoe books (2021) Zu Deep Fakes: keine konkrete Referenz, weil sich hier alles so schnell bewegt. Eine Internet Suche zum Stichwort »Deep Fake« bringt zahlreiche Beispiele (Obama, Trump, Fake Porn, Joe Rogan) The Guardian, European MPs targeted by Deep Fake Video Calls Imitating Russian Opposition (2021)

TikTok has rapidly become one of the most popular apps for teenagers across the world for dancing, lip-syncing and sharing details about their lives. But if you cast your mind back to last year—specifically, August 2020—you may recall that the app's future in the United States suddenly fell into doubt. The Trump administration began arguing that the app's ownership by the Chinese company ByteDance raised problems of national security for the United States. ByteDance was ordered to divest from TikTok, and the app, along with the popular China-based chat app WeChat, faced U.S. sanctions.But you might have noticed that your teenager is still making TikTok videos. And President Biden issued his own executive order last week revoking Trump's sanctions. So, what on earth is happening?On this week's episode of our Arbiters of Truth series on our online information ecosystem, Evelyn Douek and Quinta Jurecic spoke to Bobby Chesney, Lawfare co-founder and Charles I. Francis Professor in Law at the University of Texas School of Law, about what's happened to TikTok over the past year. Bobby brought us up to speed with the Trump administration's offensive on TikTok, why the app has survived so far and why TikTok shouldn't breathe easy just yet about Biden's executive order. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Hello from Austin! We're back with a new episode!  Tune in as your co-hosts Professor Steve Vladeck and Bobby Chesney discuss and debate: SCOTUS narrows the scope of the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act in Van Buren SCOTUS grants cert. in Fazaga, adding to the sense that the October '21 Term will be unprecedented for its engagement with state secrets privilege and FISA issues The Biden Administration withdraws IEEPA sanctions against TikTok and WeChat...for now, at least! GTMO closure trial-balloon?  About that NBC News story that mentions a possible desire to put the long-term military detainees in a Supermax prison rather than a military facility Over-the-horizon uses of force in Afghanistan post-withdrawal: so, will that be subject to the PPG as a use of force outside a zone of active hostilities? Leak-hunt subpoenas: we've got subpoenas concerning the communications of journalists...and Members of Congress...and the White House Counsel. Where are the legal and policy redlines in such cases? Mike Flynn, Larabee, and the idea of recalling separated servicemembers in order to subject them to court-martial proceedings (based on post-separation conduct) Also, did we mention the Mets are in first place?  Join the MLB-themed frivolity as we ramble about teams and players doing surprisingly well and surprisingly not-so-well!

President Biden has issued an executive order on cybersecurity. Bobby Chesney, one of the founders of Lawfare and a professor at the University of Texas Law School, and Trey Herr of the Atlantic Council, analyzed the significant document in depth for Lawfare, and they joined Benjamin Wittes on Lawfare Live to discuss the order and take questions from a live audience. They talked about what the executive order covers, what it doesn't cover, what it can be expected to do beyond the realm of government contracting, why it left out all matters related to ransomware and what the president needs Congress's help to do. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.