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In this episode of the Higher Ed Pulse Podcast, Mallory chats with Andy Shearouse, Assistant Director of the EDGE Center at Augustana College, during the 2024 HighEdWeb conference. Andy dives into the concept of "intrapreneurship" and how individuals within institutions can foster innovation and drive meaningful change from the inside. Through personal experiences and insightful examples, Andy explains how anyone can become a difference-maker on campus by adopting an entrepreneurial mindset and identifying opportunities for improvement.Key TakeawaysIntrapreneurship encourages staff to channel entrepreneurial energy internally, driving change within an organization.The best innovations often come from those closest to daily processes, like student services or campus operations.Developing an "entrepreneurial mindset" involves problem-first thinking, self-confidence, and a willingness to seek small, impactful wins.Higher education institutions can benefit significantly from empowering staff to identify inefficiencies and implement creative solutions.What is Intrapreneurship, and Why Does It Matter in Higher Education?Intrapreneurship is the practice of fostering entrepreneurial innovation within an existing organization. Andy Shearouse highlights the importance of encouraging faculty and staff to think like entrepreneurs, focusing on improving internal processes and services. This mindset differs from traditional entrepreneurship by emphasizing change from within, allowing institutions to become more adaptable and student-centered. For example, Andy discusses how colleges that quickly addressed the growing demand for mental health services were able to stay ahead of student needs and become more supportive environments.How Can Intrapreneurship Solve Campus-Wide Problems?Andy shared several real-world examples of intrapreneurship at work. One standout case involved transforming the course add/drop process at Augustana College from a cumbersome paper-based system to an efficient online solution. The initiative was driven by the Career Development Office, which recognized the inefficiencies students and staff faced. This change significantly improved the student experience, highlighting how even small departments can spearhead major improvements that benefit the entire campus community.What Traits Make a Successful Intrapreneur?The entrepreneurial mindset is key to becoming an intrapreneur. Andy outlines six traits of successful entrepreneurs, with the top two being: saying "yes, I can" when presented with a challenge and focusing on solving problems, not just pushing products. Intrapreneurs are proactive, identifying gaps and inefficiencies in their organizations and working creatively to address them. They don't need to overhaul entire systems overnight but instead look for small wins that snowball into broader, lasting changes. This problem-solving mindset is what empowers intrapreneurs to reshape their institutions incrementally.If you're intrigued by the idea of sparking change at your institution, you won't want to miss the full episode. Listen now to discover more examples of how intrapreneurship can drive innovation in higher education! - - - -Connect With Our Co-Hosts:Mallory Willsea https://www.linkedin.com/in/mallorywillsea/https://twitter.com/mallorywillseaSeth Odell https://www.linkedin.com/in/sethodell/https://twitter.com/sethodellAbout The Enrollify Podcast Network:The Higher Ed Pulse is a part of the Enrollify Podcast Network. If you like this podcast, chances are you'll like other Enrollify shows too! Some of our favorites include Generation AI and Confessions of a Higher Education Social Media Manager.Enrollify is made possible by Element451 — the next-generation AI student engagement platform helping institutions create meaningful and personalized interactions with students. Learn more at element451.com.Element451 is hosting the AI Engage Summit on Oct 29 and 30Register now for this free, virtual event.The future of higher ed is being redefined by the transformative power of AI. The AI Engage Summit brings together higher ed leaders, innovators, and many of your favorite Enrollify creators to explore AI's impact on student engagement, enrollment marketing, and institutional success. Experience firsthand how AI is improving content personalization at scale, impacting strategic decision-making, and intuitively automating the mundane tasks that consume our time. The schedule is packed with real examples and case studies, so you leave knowing how to harness AI to drive meaningful change at your institution. Whether you're looking to enhance student outcomes, optimize enrollment marketing, or simply stay ahead of the curve, the AI Engage Summit is your gateway to the next level of higher education innovation. Registration is free, save your spot today.

EVENT DESCRIPTION: Mandatory national service (also called compulsory service) is a requirement that people serve in the military or complete other works of public service for one or two years. The U.S. military draft, created during the Civil War, is one type of mandatory national service. The U.S. has had an all-volunteer military since 1973 when President Nixon ended the draft following the extremely controversial Vietnam War which provoked huge public protests against both the war and the draft. Public opinion is about evenly split among all Americans about mandatory national service. Young adults, who would be required to complete such service, are 39% for and 57% against. The panelists, from the S.J. Quinney College of Law, have all served their countries in the military during periods of national conflict and have diverse views about mandatory national service. Audience members will be polled about their views. PANELISTS: Amos N. Guiora Amos N. Guiora is Professor of Law at the S.J. Quinney College of Law, the University of Utah. He is a Distinguished Fellow at The Consortium for the Research and Study of Holocaust and the Law at Chicago-Kent College of Law, and a Distinguished Fellow and Counselor at the International Center for Conflict Resolution, Katz School of Business, University of Pittsburgh. Guiora is a retired Lt. Col. In the Israel Defense Forces where he served in the Judge Advocate General Corps. James Holbrook James Holbrook is a Clinical Professor of Law Emeritus who taught negotiation, mediation, and arbitration at the S.J. Quinney College of Law at the University of Utah. In 1969 he served in combat in Vietnam with the 9th Infantry Division for which service he received the Army Commendation Medal for Valor and a Bronze Star. He is an advisor to the University's Veterans Support Center and is the Manager of Special Projects in the law school's Career Development Office. Leah Bench Leah Bench is a first-year law student at the S.J. Quinney College of Law. She served in the United States Air Force as a Munitions Specialist for four years during which time she received numerous awards and an early promotion. In 2015 she deployed to Guam in the Pacific Theater to support B-52 aircraft. In 2020 she received a Master of Legal Studies degree from the College of Law and is now pursuing a legal career in military law and public policy for veteran support. Mike Meszaros Mike Meszaros is a 2L at the S.J. Quinney College of Law. He graduated from West Point where he earned a Bachelor of Science degree in military history with a focus on the U.S. Army's modernization and the transition to the all-volunteer force following the Vietnam War. He was an infantry officer in the Army for nine years during which he served as the Brigade Battle Captain in Nangahar Province in Afghanistan. MODERATOR: Dean Elizabeth Kronk Warner For questions about this event email events@law.utah.edu. This episode was originally broadcast and recorded on November 09, 2022

While gaining legal knowledge is first and foremost the focus of law students, it's also vital students have the right strategies in place to help them gain employment when they graduate. In this podcast, host Tara Mead talks with Eden Mandrell, assistant dean of Widener Law Commonwealth's Career Development Office, who discusses her role in helping current students and alumni in their job search and beyond Episode Transcript (PDF)     Music Credit: LeChuckz

On Episode 33 of ‘Real World Talks' the ladies of the Career Development Office spoke to Gisela Moreno, Human Resources Professional of Indian Creek Country Club. Gisela discussed her transition from working in Food & Beverage to a career in human resources. Not many people know where to start when they see a future in human resources, but Gisela does and she shares that with us! She also shares the things she does & learn to stay on top of her role, what impresses her when hiring, what she looks forward to this year and what she cannot live without!Starring: Lourdes Torres, Katherine Martin and Nathalie St Remy Produced by: Nathalie St Remy

Want tips to catch a recruiter's eye or how to create a strong social media brand? Keep reading!On Episode 32 of ‘Real World Talks' the ladies of the Career Development Office spoke to Jeff Hickman, Manager of Disney College & International Recruitment, The Walt Disney Company. We love Disney and so does Jeff! Jeff discussed the holidays, his career journey, the reasons why he works for such a dynamic & diverse team and his favorite characters. He also shared the best career advice, tips to catch a recruiter's eye, interview skills and how to create a strong social media brand. Jeff is very passionate about his role and it was a very informative episode! Starring: Lourdes Torres, Katherine Martin and Nathalie St Remy Produced by: Nathalie St Remy

On this week's episode of ‘Real World Talks' the ladies of the Career Development Office spoke to Amanda Bussey, Sales Recruiting Manager of E&J Gallo Winery and Ramsay Hyatt, Business Development Manager of Fine Wine & Spirits of E&J Gallo Winery. They discussed the attributes they look for in a candidate, different career paths within the beverage industry,  its future and personal obstacles they have conquered. The conversation then dives right into some fun questions about the holidays, popular wine within E& J Gallo and what they would do if they won the lotto! This episode is definitely for those who are interested in a career path in the beverage industry! Episode 29Starring: Lourdes Torres, Katherine Martin and Nathalie St RemyProduced by: Nathalie St Remy

In this episode, host Suraj sits down for virtual one-on-one interviews with John Branch, clinical assistant professor of business administration and co-director of Yaffe Digital Media Initiative; and Heather Byrne, director of the Career Development Office at the Ross School of Business. They discuss how the shift to a virtual environment has changed business school, and what’s likely to happen in the future -- including after the pandemic ultimately ends.  We'd love to hear from you! Send us an email at WeekendPod@umich.edu or leave a review on your podcast app of choice to let us know what you think of the show. Watch for new episodes every other week.Working for the Weekend is brought to you by the University of Michigan Ross School of Business.Episode Host/Producer: Suraj Kandukuri.Guests: John Branch, Heather Byrne.Editing: Jonah Brockman.Executive Producers: Suraj Kandukuri and Bob Needham.Copyright 2020 - University of Michigan

In this episode, host Suraj sits down for virtual one-on-one interviews with John Branch, clinical assistant professor of business administration and co-director of Yaffe Digital Media Initiative; and Heather Byrne, director of the Career Development Office at the Ross School of Business. They discuss how the shift to a virtual environment has changed business school, and what’s likely to happen in the future -- including after the pandemic ultimately ends.  We'd love to hear from you! Send us an email at WeekendPod@umich.edu or leave a review on your podcast app of choice to let us know what you think of the show. Watch for new episodes every other week.Working for the Weekend is brought to you by the University of Michigan Ross School of Business.Episode Host/Producer: Suraj Kandukuri.Guests: John Branch, Heather Byrne.Editing: Jonah Brockman.Executive Producers: Suraj Kandukuri and Bob Needham.Copyright 2020 - University of Michigan

What's the job outlook like this year for MBAs? How has the pandemic changed the market? What's recruiting like in the virtual world? In this special bonus episode, co-hosts Katie and Jeff interview Heather Byrne, executive director of the Career Development Office at Michigan Ross, on these topics and much more. And for more on careers and Ross, check out our next full episode, taking on the subject of career pivots.---Business Beyond Usual is brought to you by the Ross School of Business at the University of Michigan.Episode Hosts: Jeff Church, Katie Coleman.Guest: Heather Byrne.Executive Producers: Jeff Church, Katie Coleman, and Bob Needham.Copyright 2020 - University of Michigan

What does it mean to survive vs thrive? Are you chasing gold stars or gold coins? When did you claim to be an artist? Do you procrastinate to do your dishes, or are you a control freak who cleans every plate as soon as you finish eating? AND, the four most important questions you must ask yourself before starting a new arts business if you have less than $10 in your bank account. It's story time! We invite your inner child for a play date with one of the world's best artist coaches, Michelle I. Gomez to meet her inner child. Learn how her inner child influenced her journey from Artist < Artpreneur < Coach, learn the real reason why she went six figures in debt to art school, AND listen as she spills the tea about the interaction with the Career Development Office that lead her to fulfill her purpose here at The New MFA, so YOU can do what you love (without having to go six figures in debt to do so).Also, cancel that grad school application, and check out the world's best artist coaches in our directory at www.thenewmfa.biz!

Derek Cook of the Midland law firm Lynch, Chappel and Alsup is our guest today. We talk about taking care of yourself, practicing law in West Texas, and the early days of practicing law in a COVID-19 world.Early COVID response (recorded March 19)At-risk people work from homeJury trials cancelled; non essential hearings postponedPublic events slowedLow/dropping oil price is also a factor with their clientsMediation/depo/etc. going on a case by caseMidland/West Texas PracticeDerek grew up in Wichita Falls; undergrad in DFW; law school at Baylor; thought he would wind up in Dallas or Fort WorthHe came out during the low point for new lawyer hiring after the '08 recessionEven though he was on law review and had good grades, it was hard to find a jobBaylor's Career Development Office sent out notice for this great Midland firm, and it was a great opportunity that, once he sold his wife on it, was the right fitLitigation that pretty much all ties back to oil/gasCollectionroyalty paymentsleasesindividuals and entity clientsMore camaraderie here than in most places; you're going to see opposing counsel again, and probably soon!So everyone works well together, including the judgesMidland is a sophisticated practice with institutional oil/gas clients with significant commercial litigationTheir firm has 25 lawyers with groups that do all the major practice areas; other firms have 10-40 lawyers (won't find that in the other West Texas cities)Advice to young lawyers and what they are looking for when they hire in their firmCritical to take care of yourselfTLAP and State Bar/local Bars are doing great workRecent study: 25%-35% of lawyers are prone to problem drinkingCommunicate with someone about what's going on with youTheir firm is a modified sink/swim model with young associatesSo they try to hire people who have a propensity for the specific section they are hiring forLooking for people who can get up to speed on their own, figure out the issues, put in the effort, and shortly get to a point where they need little/to no partner oversightWhat in your experience demonstrates an interest and/or aptitude for the specific job/practice area you are applying toInterview is a huge part of the process, because they are really looking as much/more for fit than just credentialsAlso love to see some type of Midland or West Texas connectionLooking for people who want to be there for an extended period of time; not just a year or two and move on or move back to a large cityDon't have to commit to an entire career at the firm; but showing just a strong interest in oil/gas and related complex work, that can be enough and will make the firm confident you could be a long-term fitWork/Life BalanceRecently the firm has moved to laptops with remote access so attorneys are able to work from home / the roadHowever, oil/gas legal work is still driven mostly by more senior lawyers (60+) who aren't as comfortable with lawyers working from home, so it's been a longer transition periodRealistically, much of what lawyers do can be done remotely, and he thinks the move in that direction will happenRapid FireMost important trait/characteristic in associate: go getterKey habit: responsiveness (generally return calls/emails within 24 hours)App/tool: Google Chrome Remote DesktopFavorite Social Distancing Activity: checking toilet paper stashFavorite Legal Movie: The Verdict; Idiocracy (courtroom scene)

In this episode, host Jeff talks with guests Nick, Cameron, Bridget, and Carlos about their background, their goals, and their experiences navigating the recruiting process. They cover resources available for recruiting at Ross, working with the Career Development Office, the value of Ross’ FACT career support groups, the power of the University of Michigan network, and lots of tips to make the recruiting process a success.Have thoughts about topics we should cover or just want to get in touch? Send us an email at bbupodcast@umich.edu.---Business Beyond Usual is brought to you by the Ross School of Business at the University of Michigan.Episode Host: Jeff ChurchGuests: Nick Campbell, Cameron Charman, Bridget Manning, Carlos PerezExecutive Producers: Adam Fasher, Andres Fuentes-Afflick, and Bob NeedhamProducers: Jason Rock, Stephanie Simpson, Saba Alemnew, Katie Coleman, Jeff Church, Alexander Perrin, Patricio Rivera, and Joshua TrogerAudio Engineer: Jonah BrockmanCopyright 2020 - University of Michigan

Chef Clay Conley has worked his way around the kitchen since he started washing dishes as a teenager. Raised on 30 acres in rural Maine, in a 19th century home heated only by wood fire, Conley’s childhood was defined by chopping wood, tending to farm animals and a garden, and planting a 1000-tree orchard, which instilled his love of fresh, seasonal ingredients and the full-flavored, wood fired dishes that have become his signature as a chef.Conley moved to Boston after college to work for Todd English, ultimately serving as the celebrity chef’s Director of Culinary Operations, overseeing 18 restaurants around the world. Upon his return to South Florida, Conley received accolades for his tenure as Executive Chef at Azul in the Mandarin Oriental Miami before relocating to Palm Beach to open his first chef-helmed venture –Buccan – in 2011. The modern American restaurant, which continues to be one of the island’s toughest reservations, focuses on complex yet balanced small plates, and is credited with revolutionizing the Palm Beach dining scene. Chef-driven cuisine in a sophisticated, relaxed atmosphere was a new phenomenon on the tony island, and Conley followed Buccan’s success with Imoto (“little sister”), a Japanese/Asian concept next door inspired by his time living in Tokyo. In 2016, Conley opened Grato, a neighborhood Italian concept West Palm Beach, which features a wood-burning oven, grill and rotisserie. He is currently working on a new venture, Chateau Miami, to open winter 2020.Five-time nominee for a James Beard Award as a “Best Chef in America: South,” Conley and his restaurants have been recognized in national and international publications including New York Times, Wall Street Journal, Travel + Leisure, NY Post, Robb Report, Conde Nast Traveler, Miami Herald, Complot, Boston Globe, Fodor’s and USA Today. Buccan has been praised by Forbes as one of the best restaurants in Palm Beach and has received “Best Restaurant” honors from all area publications. Clay has also cooked on Emeril’s Florida, featured on both the Food Network and Cooking Channel, PBS’s The Victory Garden, The Today Show and Fox and Friends.---------------------------------------Chef Zach Bell, a four-time James Beard Award finalist for Best Chef: South, spent his formative years in New York working alongside Chef Andrew Carmellini with culinary legend Daniel Boulud. A Florida native, Bell returned to Palm Beach in 2003 to open Boulud’s first venture outside New York City, the award-winning Café Boulud, and later opened Boulud’s Miami restaurant. In 2011, Bell joined Delray Beach’s exclusive Addison Reserve Country Club, the #7th ranked private club in America, as Executive Chef. At Addison Reserve, Bell oversaw seven separate dining venues, as well as all private dining and special events for the club.In 2019, Bell joined friend and colleague Chef Clay Conley and his acclaimed Palm Beach County-based restaurant group to oversee culinary operations for Buccan, Grato, Imoto and the Buccan Sandwich Shop. Alongside his extensive fine dining experience, Bell boasts unparalleled knowledge of restaurant operations – from developing comprehensive training programs to overseeing all aspects of day-to-day management. Bell’s passion for recognizing and training talented chefs began while studying at Johnson & Wales and working in their Career Development Office. He brings this unique and highly valued expertise to the company as they expand and explore new opportunities for growth.

Damian is an Executive Coach and a Career CoachDamian was the Director of the Career Development Office at the University of Michigan Ross School of Business, a top-10 ranked MBA program (#10 according to US News in 2019). Damian has been doing executive search and coaching for his entire career and in 2018 started DGZ Coaching. This guy is the real deal! Damian recently added Gallup-certified Strengths Coach to his list of impressive credentials and that’s what he’s going to talk to us about today. Damian is going to teach us how to talk about your strengths in a job search and we’ll draw extensively on his CliftonStrengths experience during this conversation.

It’s no surprise that, during a recession, the legal job market tightens and legal employment is harder to find. Big Law firms that once snapped up students and law school graduates are laying-off lawyers, reducing associate class size or deferring the start dates for students with accepted job offers. Legal employers are changing the ways they recruit lawyers and the way they do business. Meanwhile, the tough times are steering more applicants to law school. What does this mean to currently enrolled law students, law school applicants and freshly-minted law school graduates? We interviewed law school deans of admission, financial aid and career services, the Executive Director at NALP and the writer for the Wall Street Journal who covers notable trends in the legal market for the business community, to get their advice on what can be done to navigate one’s career and application during these challenging times. Guests include: Jason Wu Trujillo, Senior Assistant Dean for Admissions and Financial Aid, The University of Virginia Law School Johann Lee, Assistant Dean of Admissions and Financial Aid, Northwestern University Law School Kevin Donovan, Senior Assistant Dean for Career Services, The University of Virginia Law School Carole Montgomery, Director of the Career Development Office at The George Washington University Law School Jim Leipold, Executive Director at NALP, National Association for Law Placement Ashby Jones, The Law Blog at the Wall Street Journal

Y'all, we finished finals. We survived the first and worst semester of our lives (so far). We've got a month long break ahead of us so we decided to talk to our good friend Tony in the Career Development Office to see what we should do about getting a summer job (yikes) and for general advice moving forward. So proud of all our Breaches out there for making it this far. Be on the lookout for a ~special~ episode coming to you soon this holiday season. As always, reach out to us on social media @badbreaches and email with your questions or ideas at badbreaches@gmail.com. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/badbreaches/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/badbreaches/support

This episode, recorded in September 2018, is the final installment of a three-part series featuring Eden Mandrell, Director of the Career Development Office at Widener Law Commonwealth in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. In this episode, Eden and Host Julie Sheldon discuss internships and externships for law students.  Mentioned in this Episode: Career Development and Job Search Tools Widener Law Commonwealth Externships Symplicity Job Bank     Music Credit: LeChuckz

This episode, recorded in September 2018, is the second in a three-part series featuring Eden Mandrell, Director of the Career Development Office at Widener Law Commonwealth in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. In this episode, Eden and Host Julie Sheldon discuss tips for resumes and cover letters for law students and recent alumni.  The final installment in the series will be a discussion about and internships and externships.  Mentioned in this Episode: Career Development and Job Search Tools     Music Credit: LeChuckz

In this episode, I am excited to have Gina Alexandris on to talk about life in and beyond law practice and managing transitions. For over 20 years, Gina has been inspiring and supporting individuals and organizations to strategically define their hopes and achieve their goals. She is an adult educator, coach, public speaker, life-long learner, law school administrator, and former practicing lawyer. Gina is passionate about personal and professional development, diversity and inclusion, and developing strong relationships and networks. She is a proud Greek-Canadian soccer mom living with her family in Toronto. Topics Covered What the legal education life looks like (even beyond the law practice), how she discovered that litigation wasn't right for her, and what about it wasn't suited to whom she is. Dealing with an identity crisis in law, managing transitions at any point in your career, and what that journey looked like for her. What to do with that nagging feeling we can feel when we are pulled in different directions. Emotional intelligence for lawyers, and how we sometimes need to back away from our logic-thinking brain to listen to our inner voice.     Questions? Comments? Email Jeena! hello@jeenacho.com. You can also connect with Jeena on Twitter: @Jeena_Cho For more information, visit: jeenacho.com Order The Anxious Lawyer book — Available in hardcover, Kindle and Audible Find Your Ease: Retreat for Lawyers I'm creating a retreat that will provide a perfect gift of relaxation and rejuvenation with an intimate group of lawyers. Interested? Please complete this form: https://jeena3.typeform.com/to/VXfIXq MINDFUL PAUSE: Bite-Sized Practices for Cultivating More Joy and Focus 31-day program. Spend just 6 minutes every day to practice mindfulness and meditation. Decrease stress/anxiety, increase focus and concentration. Interested? http://jeenacho.com/mindful-pause/ Transcript Gina Alexandris: [00:00:06] I think being open and and seeing where things leads you right. So you go down one or it might not be the exact door but another one might have opened during that conversation that you want to explore. Intro: [00:00:18] Welcome to The Resilient Lawyer podcast. In this podcast, we have meaningful, in-depth conversations with lawyers, entrepreneurs and change agents. We offer tools and strategies for creating a more joyful and satisfying life. And now your host, Jeena Cho. Jeena Cho: [00:00:40] Hello my friends thanks for being with me for another episode of The Resilient Lawyer podcast, I am so glad to have you here. In this episode I am so happy to have Gina Alexandris. She has been inspiring and supporting individuals and organizations to strategically define their hopes and achieve their goals. She is an adult educator coach public speaker a lifelong learner law school administrator and former practicing lawyer Jeena as passionate about personal and professional development diversity and inclusion in developing strong relationships and networks. She is a proud Greek Canadian soccer mom living with her family in Toronto. And in this episode we're going to Chad about law practice and beyond law practice and that she had a little bit about managing transitions I know a lot of Jeena. There have been sending e-mails about managing and changing careers and different you know changes that we go through and especially as we kind of shift from summer to fall I think it's a lovely time to kind of take a pause and reflect on your life and consider all of these big or small transitions. So I'm thrilled to have Jeena before we get into the interview if you haven't listened to the last bonus episode go back and check it out. I shared a 6 minute guided meditation practice to let go of stress and anxiety. It's a preview for my course mindful pause so often I hear from lawyers that they know they should practice my Pilas but they just don't have the time. And I always tell lawyers start with just six minutes or point one hour of all the hours she'd dedicate to your client's work and others don't you deserve to have at least point one hour to yourself mindful pauses designed for lawyers like you to fit into your head schedule. Think of it like taking your daily vitamins to boost your well-being. Head on over to Jeena Cho dot com to learn more or check it out and the shell notes. And with that here's Gina. Gina, welcome to the show. Gina Alexandris: [00:02:38] Thank you Jeena. It is a delight to be here. I love the the mindful pause and the concept of taking just to point one out of your day for yourself. Well-deserved so thank you very much for having me. Jeena Cho: [00:02:48] Thank you. So let's start by having you give us this 30 second introduction of who you are and what you deal. Gina Alexandris: [00:02:54] Absolutely absolutely. And so what I wanted to say to that is that I started off in the practice of law and I did civil litigation and family law for about four years and then realized during that time that something about that just wasn't what I was hoping it would be. And I was looking for other options. And before law school I'd always thought I would go into teaching. What I found as a possibility was to set up are my alma maters Osgoode Hall Law School here in Canada. Career Development Office and so I transition from the practice of law to moving into the law school setting didn't know how long I would be there for. But over the last several years I have been at Osgoode as the starting person for career services. I worked with students Asma as the assistant dean of student services. I've transitioned to one of the other law schools in Toronto the youth of where we had an internationally trained Boyer's program that I began and after some time transition to the Ryerson University where I'm at now where we had a new program that again that I helped to develop Karbalaa practice program. And so I've been in legal education for a lot longer than I was in practice for a buddy here I worked in government again doing the education for lawyers so I've I've certainly been on the side of a practice in various ways for a long time now. Jeena Cho: [00:04:20] So you know it's something that you said is something that I often hear as you know you start your law practice and you have a certain idea of what it's going to be like. And I think it's really hard to know especially doing something like litigation what it's actually like to do litigation day in and day out without actually having done it. And law school is often up or preparatory Skoff actually every year the ins and outs of what that's actually like. So when you said you know just something about litigation wasn't right for me. Can you talk a little bit more about that. How did you know that it wasn't right for you and what about who was just not suited to who you are. Gina Alexandris: [00:05:01] Great question. And I get that over the years by many students and even junior lawyers new lawyers who are finding themselves sort that kind of question. And it's it's also one of the reasons why I think I love the fact that we're starting this new law school here in Rodgerson because trying to get that experience in early on is important. But you don't know until you do it. And I think that's that's really critical too to know. I went to law school and I hear this all the time I read it in personal statements for applicants to law schools. I went into law school. So I wanted to help people. I wanted to help people solve their problem the solutions. And I've been involved in my parents. I'm a child of immigrants and they've been involved in a litigation matter and I didn't like how they experience that process. And that was the resolve for me that I was going to go to law school and do something about that so that others like my parents would never have to deal with that again. So those are the transition from thinking I'd go into teaching to going into law and in practice I really loved meeting with the kid with the. So [00:06:03] I really loved listening to them and hearing what their problems were and trying to find the legal solutions to it. I'm a natural talker and so I enjoyed the preparation for court and you know appearing in court and actually making arguments in favor of my client. The part that I didn't like and it sort of yes it's part of civil litigation and family for sure is that conflict. And while there are a host of lawyers who are practicing who are trying to build their practices and family law and in civil litigation in a less confrontational way nevertheless our current system still still requires that. And for me it just wasn't part of how I wanted to be as a as a person. And I found myself at odds with that. So you know what I thought OK what if I transition to something more solicitor based. I really like the concept of litigation. And for me I don't think I'd want to do more solicitor based work whether it's contract drafting or Wills and the statesetc. and I just found that when I was able to find something within legal Ed it was really I had those aha moments right this is where I really belong. I was able to marry what I really had a passion for with the substance and the materials that I had spent you know learning in law school. Jeena Cho: [00:07:28] You know it is so once you sort of realize hey you know I sort of ended up on a path that isn't suited for me. I know for myself and also just having worked with lawyers over the years that that often comes with a tremendous sense of guilt or even some sort of feeling of failure or you know this feeling like oh I don't know what to do now. You know like the wind that I had so much time preparing or is just not right for me. [00:07:59] So what do I do. They go through cause I think as lawyers we identify so much of who we are what we do. So we as kind of go through some sort of an identity crisis. She goes through with that. And if he did how did you manage it. Gina Alexandris: [00:08:13] Oh boy did I ever. And you know it's interesting because you seek out so and as I said before a child of immigrants I didn't have a lot of role models if any in the legal profession to start with right so that itself is something that I always try and give back to people as much as possible. But nevertheless for me when I decide to go to law school I can tell you the family was proud. Right. They were having a daughter not only go to university but off to law school and then become a lawyer and people whether you know what a lawyer does or not you have this idea that you know what a lawyer does. [00:08:47] Right. And so for me that identity was very strong and very much a part of who I was. And so I spent about four years in practice and of course early on I would hear my supervisors or my senior lawyers saying it's all part of a learning curve. You just have to get over those first four or five years. And I thought OK. So if something miraculously changed after four or five years I wasn't feeling like there was a change. And so in my fourth year I did seek the support of a career counselor a career coach. And I remember her saying at one point when we were chatting and she said something about oh well do you have fun in your work. And I paused. I gave her a strange look and she said to me what's wrong I said Do you remember what I said that I do actually I'm a lawyer and she said yes. And if you can't have fun being a lawyer then maybe we need to look at something else. And so that sort of moment was was a turning point for me. I realized I wanted to find something that I really truly enjoyed doing and if not 70s you know not all the time and then the most part of my working days. And for me I have to tell you when I made the decision and found an opportunity to leave the practice and go into the legal education area the biggest my biggest worry and a huge huge huge weight on my shoulders was how do I tell my father. Here is a man who had you know third grade education back in Greece came to Canada. Building a life for his family so proud of his daughter that you know was a lawyer. How am I going to tell him for me. That conversation was one that I was so nervous about having and Jeena. I remember having him over to the house for dinner and after dinner anxiously cussing said Daddy not that I want to tell you about. I'm going to change jobs new looked and said OK and he said and I said I'm not going to be a lawyer anymore and that those words just saying those words were excruciating to me and he looked at me and he paused and he said are you going to be happy. [00:10:55] And I kind of went I think so it's a good. I hope you are in and tell me about where you're going to work. And I thought well what I worry about all this time around ain't no. But yet it was that identity and that sense of oh I have to keep doing this because everybody thinks I should and I'm carrying it for whoever else you know I'm carrying for was a huge weight. And over the years I realize nobody really is going to. That doesn't matter. That doesn't matter. Jeena Cho: [00:11:22] Right. And even if even if for some reason Ito they were to have some sort of negative reaction. It's also sort of like well that's their reaction and you can't be responsible for other people's reactions. Absolutely. Gina Alexandris: [00:11:36] No absolutely. And reminding myself of that was critical as well. Jeena Cho: [00:11:40] Yeah yeah well yeah I mean it's so funny listening to your story is so much like mine. And when I told my parents are not going well I mean I still practice a little bit but you know and I basically said I have a law is no longer going to be my primary focus and I'm going to teach mindfulness meditation to other lawyers. They just look at me like it's not a race because it's also sort of like a made up job in a way. Gina Alexandris: [00:12:08] Well think about it back then this was over 20 years ago the career development office where I started the creative element opposite our law school and so our colleagues and friends in theU.S. men are you know appreciate that but we didn't have career officers career services offices in Canada back in back about 20 years ago and so I was set to start that. And so figuring out how to describe what I do to people you know my colleagues my friends what's a career development officer career services person what do they do every day. You know over the years I've just found ways to explain what I do and if I have to say I'm a lawyer that's not practicing I do that too right. Jeena Cho: [00:12:47] Yeah. Yeah. And like not having that hail of being a lawyer is surprisingly high. It's one of sort of like the big hurdles that I often have to work with my coaching clients. It's like well like I just like having that title it's need it's clear people understand what that means. It's not like you know if say like oh I help people do at her know I guess career transition or career coach isn't such an unusual job title anymore. [00:13:15] But yet you know. So I think it's it's kind of fine to not have sort of a traditional job title anymore I can put an interesting spin on it. So it's going to go back to your story. How did you go from that sort of recognizing that OK I'm not going to be a lawyer anymore. Finding your way into what you're doing now. What was that journey like. Gina Alexandris: [00:13:38] Oh wow. I find it in retrospect. There are so many similarities. And you know when you look back you can see oh yeah that's not that much of a surprise in fact. So as I said earlier I had always had an interest in teaching. I didn't know what that meant if it was going to be in primary school. High school university but but in education some way shape or form. So when the first opportunity to start the career office came I thought great because I'll be able to help people. And remember that's why I kind of wanted to go to law school. I liked what my career coach had done and I think being able to help guide people in that context was was important and it was in an educational environment again. And my alma mater where I felt really comfortable and and happy to be back. So that was for a couple of years and then at that point the role of Assistant Dean of Student Services came up. We'd had a bit of transition at the school there had been three different people in four years in that role and I thought you know the next person who gets that role might be there for a long time. So I even though I was only in the career office for a couple of years I thought let me put my hat in the ring. Who knows. I'm taking a chance at this point and I did and I got the role. And I was thrilled. And in fact I was the one who was in the role for the next nine years. It was really incredible. It stretched me because I had never really before dealt with administrative work from from a schools perspective. So dealing with the admissions dealing with programs and records dealing with the career office and our financial aid it was it was incredible. And when people would say OK but you're dealing with the same issues year in year out my comment would be twofold. First of all schools make changes regularly. And secondly every year you've got a new group of students with their new with their own interests passions goals challenges. And so it was it was not boring at all being in that kind of environment for those years. But at some point I thought what happens next. Where do I. What do I do next. I was sort of itching for some kind of change in talking about transitions right. There was an opportunity at our at another school in Toronto to start a program for internationally trained lawyers to help them develop skills and build networks. When they're new to the province into the country and wanted to transition to be lawyers in the country and for me that was important for a number of reasons primarily. Again the immigrant experience from my parents perspective is one that I carry with me Jeena and I don't know if you know you or other members of the audience can appreciate it but knowing what my parents have gone through are not necessarily in a context of a professional degree accreditation but just that immigrant experience that as different as it is for people it's also very similar. And I wanted to be able to build something to help support at least a member of some members of that community. Those who were who had legal backgrounds. But what I found was I also liked the entrepreneurial spirit and what I mean by that is you know I kind of like starting things from scratch. I started the career office I started that and I realized by the time I came here to Ryerson that I really do like and I think I'm pretty decent at starting you know looking at the needs looking at the program development requirements and then putting together a team putting together the resources putting together the program and being able to then deliver for a group of people. There's a third role that I had that I have right now is a new program here at Ryerson that well I guess we're five years in I'll still say do that again we started with two people you know four people sharing two offices very little in terms of you know phone space and whatnot and have a great project that's and beneficial to over a thousand you know new or almost new lawyers in the province. And so and we're working on sort of a new law school here at the at the university so that new the ability to create something always within the context for me at least for now in law has been really really invigorating. Jeena Cho: [00:18:12] And so I want to switch gears just a little bit. Kind of staying with that whole career transition and maybe you can offer some tips or suggestions or advice for the listeners out there that are perhaps also struggling with that feeling of like this past this area that I've been to hanging by this thing that I've been doing for such a long time. I went to law school for and now I have student loan data. And on and on and on is no longer right for me and I think once you start to kind of tune in to that voice inside it doesn't just vanish. Gina Alexandris: [00:18:45] Louder. Jeena Cho: [00:18:46] Yeah that's right. I thought oh no we're not having this conversation. And I told myself I was being on grateful that you know I should be happy doing exactly what I wanted to do that I was spoiled. And how dare I not enjoy this. I work so hard to do it. So when someone starts to hear that voice you know what let's say the next three steps that they should consider taking so let's start with the very first step what's that. The first thing is you start to do if they start to get that nagging feeling inside. Gina Alexandris: [00:19:19] Well I think you hit on when you said pause and honor the voice it's telling you something. And and I think we need to spend spend some time and be able to actually give that voice. And I think what holds us back from doing so is fear. What if I really don't like this and I have to make a change. And you know all those other sabotage you know saboteur kind of thinking that you just mentioned the guilt the failure the whether it's embarrassment or the debt that you've got. So we don't want to take that you know take the cap off the box because who knows what will come from it. And I think if it's there it's unlikely to go away just to take some time to honor it doesn't mean they have to go one way or the other. But just let it let it play out the end here. The second thing that I would say is then to really do some reflection on values what's important and I think when I started doing that for myself and when I do that with students or others that I come in contact with who have that voice in them think about what's important to you. [00:20:34] Now why are you doing this. I said earlier and I think I've set a all times I want to help people. Now is a value that was important to me the immigrant experience diversity. Those are things that are really important to me and what you start looking at is you know are you able to honor those values in the place that you are now. And sometimes a shift as simple as perhaps it's another employer perhaps it's an area of law. Perhaps it's the type of organization that you're working in but still practicing the same thing. Those might be the types of changes that are relevant for an individual. And other times it might be leaving the practice right. It doesn't have to be all of that. It could be any part of that as you're thinking about what changes might be more reflective of the values that you bring a third element I think is when you're listening and I'm torn between two third options so might be a third it's either what it could do to the third the one element is don't be afraid to talk to people. I think we sometimes are too much in our heads. Yeah and lawyers have that uncanny ability to try and analyze everything and solve every problem on their own. Their mind where it louder and louder and louder right at the end. [00:22:11] And sometimes that can be really that alone can can be anxiety provoking and you start questioning and doubting everything. So talking to somebody find a trusted person that you can just chat with you don't have to tell the world you know. But if you want tweeted out and get some feedback that works for people for others just being able to find a trusted whether it's a friend a mentor a supervisor a coach you know an advisor in any way just to talk through that. I think that's really important because sometimes in our own heads and our own minds the issue becomes greater than what it might be. But at other times we just want another perspective. Right. So. [00:22:56] So that would be one and I think the fourth I want to say is I don't know about you but when I started thinking about this and talking about things all of a sudden we're almost like you know the phrase I don't remember who initiated it and who said it first but once you start asking about some of the world's big Sakti of the universe speaks about you guys. And then opportunities started you know coming up that I had never even heard about. I've never even considered before because you're open and I think being open to it as scary as change can be. Being open to those possibilities is very important because then you seem to notice them even more so around Jeena raid ha. Jeena Cho: [00:23:43] And you know the other thing I think I love that point about talking to other people because often I do find that lawyers want to sort of figure out which they should do next in their own head but without gathering data. Right. And it makes its make a life change like Akridge Idzik. You need a lot of data like what. [00:24:02] You know if you're thinking like OK maybe I want to shift to being on HRT purchase and well what does that world look like on a day to day basis. You're not going to be able to figure that out in your head without gathering data. But because say find out lawyers are sort of hesitant because they think well what if I do talk to this person that's in a charro maybe even you know talk to someone that loves law to move into a china and find out that's not right for me and I'm like That's great. Gina Alexandris: [00:24:27] If they start eliminating. Jeena Cho: [00:24:30] They think of getting out of bad binary way of thinking as you know seeing everything as success or failure and seeing things as gathering data and that you know eliminating things and adding things and playing around and only seeing your life as a collaborator away you could run different experiments and see what works and really getting out of that you know that that world of failure which I think is so ingrained then says lawyers. Gina Alexandris: [00:24:57] You know it's interesting because one of the things that both for this program and as a as we're sort of moving forward with with a future law school I also wanted to see what is out there currently in legal education that includes creativity and its title. And I have to tell you I did some research and I didn't come up with a whole law so it made me realize when we talk about lawyers and I just said we're data driven. It's important to us but we're also solving problems and to be able to solve problems. And this is where you know the resiliency that you talk about so often is so critical when you're looking to solve problems and come up with creative solutions and understand deeply and deeper what is happening around you. Tippett We need to use the creative parts of your mind and we don't explore that as much and tap into that as much thriftily education and sometimes in practice you know creativity is what you do when you go to an art night or when you're dancing or when you're whatever else. That's also what we do when we come up with solutions for our clients on a day to day basis. Jeena Cho: [00:26:05] Yeah yeah I think it's her nurturing it and that side of you. And I had the exact same experience I used it I started working with a career coach and the first thing she asked me was like What do you do for fun. What do you do that as no other function except to give you that sense of joy. And I looked at her like what he says like fine. [00:26:27] I don't even understand that word like a bad TV. As a girl why would I do that. Like why would I create art. It has nothing to do with my work. It doesn't help me write motions issues like oh but it does it help your brain to wire and think in a different way and if you think about it like we often get our best idea is doing something completely unrelated and sitting there staring at our screen trying to figure things out. Now you have those aha moments when you're going on a long walk or when you're painting or when you're just lost and doing some other activity that you hinted at isn't like. Let me sit down and get this out. Gina Alexandris: [00:27:05] Absolutely. No it's silvery tunes so that's why I think you know that creative and part of gathering information is and is being creative about you know who are you going to speak with so you don't necessarily I often push people and say all right who would be the person that you never thought you would need to thought or would be able to reach out to. How can you actually tap in and speak to them and learn what they have to say or how about if you find somebody that's doing something really you know sort of out of the ordinary in your mind and ask them about it ask them how they got there what they're doing. And it it really throws people out of their comfort zone sometimes. And that's exactly why I encourage them to keep doing that. Get out of your comfort zone meet with people who are in real different areas potentially as well as people who are close to what you do. But don't you know don't limit yourself to the information to the data that you have because I think if we do limit ourselves and to some degree that that might be what we're doing you know through our three years of university of law school we sort of limit who we talk to and what options we consider for a variety of reasons. And then we get out there we think Oh now it's Friday. Keep that broad perspective. Jeena Cho: [00:28:23] Yeah. Yeah it reminds me of Kalimba who said one of those like Zen Masters said. He said that in the beginner's mind that there. There are endless possibilities but in the mind of an expert there if you say think when it comes to something like career transition I almost feel like you just sort of lost everything that you think you know about career transition and really have a Pucho with that sense of almost like childlike curiosity because you're sort of like starting from scratch in many ways and you want to sort of explore all the different opportunities and possibilities and you can't do that if you're going into it with like the mind of the expert. Gina Alexandris: [00:29:07] Absolutely. Now I think being open and and seeing where things leads you right. So you go down one or it might not be the exact door but another one might have opened during that conversation that you want to explore. And and again not being afraid to explore those doors sometimes we fear or what if I really really like it and and and then what do I leave this comfort that I have right now for that discomfort of something brand new not in my you know when I thing I would never be able to go into rocket science right or into so many other things. But that I would at least want to find out what they do. There might be something related to it. Never would I have thought here's an example. When I was at that the first at Osgoode in my first trial there were no programs for internationally educated lawyers. Each school had a small element or component but never during those years would I have thought that there'd be an opportunity to start a program for specifically for internationally educated lawyers. And in addition if you had asked me or anybody else several years back I'm in the city of Toronto if I wanted to be in legal education. There were two schools that I would be working at as either at or that whole school year diversity or at the University of Toronto. But lo and behold within a period of you know five to 10 years the third University in Toronto Ryerson University has all this changed its well and is looking very much of interest to the legal community and is doing something that wasn't there several years back. Technology is giving us that as well. Things that you haven't dissipated might be possible now become possible so limiting ourselves I think is and that's one of the I think of those four things that we talked about being open listening to what others say exploring really really listening to your own voice and your own values I think is critical. And just taking some chances sometimes too. Jeena Cho: [00:31:12] Hmm well I think that's a perfect place to wrap things out. Jeena before I let you go I have one final question for you. The name of this podcast is called The Resilient Lawyer. What does it mean to be The Resilient Lawyer to you. Gina Alexandris: [00:31:25] I think being a resilient lawyer would include being kind to ourselves being compassionate and knowing that we'll be able to bounce back and that things have a way of working out as long as we're kind and caring to ourselves first and foremost. Jeena Cho: [00:31:44] Jeena thank you so much for your time and for sharing your wisdom with the audience I really appreciate it. Gina Alexandris: [00:31:50] It's been a pleasure. Thank you so much and my regards to all who are listening. Thank you. Closing: [00:31:58] Thanks for joining us on The Resilient Lawyer podcast. If you've enjoyed the show please tell a friend. It's really the best way to grow the show to leave us a review on iTunes. Search for The Resilient Lawyer and give us your honest feedback. It goes a long way to help with our visibility when you do that. So we really appreciate it. As always we'd love to hear from you. 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This episode is the first in a three-part series featuring Eden Mandrell, Director of the Career Development Office at Widener Law Commonwealth in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. In this episode they discuss networking and professionalism for law students and recent alumni.  Upcoming episodes in this series will include discussions about resume building and internships and externships.  Mentioned in this Episode: Pennsylvania Bar Association Law Student Membership Dauphin County Bar Association Career Development and Job Search Tools     Music Credit: LeChuckz    

Host Julie Massing interviews Widener Law Commonwealth's Director of Career Development Karen Durkin. This interview covers several topics including the services offered by the Career Development Office for current students and alumni and tips for job seekers. For more information about Widener Law Commonwealth's podcast, visit commonwealthlaw.widener.edu/podcast.           Music Credit: LeChuckz

Darren speaks with Ivan Kerbel of Practice MBA about what applicants need to know about MBA career strategy. A Wharton MBA himself, Ivan headed Yale SOM’s Career Development Office and was also a Associate Director at Wharton’s MBA Career Office. There are few people worldwide who have Ivan’s know-how about MBA career strategy – listen on for the inside scoop! Questions, links and more at: http://www.touchmba.com/mba-careers-uncovered-ivan-kerbel/

Darren speaks with Ivan Kerbel of Practice MBA about what applicants need to know about MBA career strategy. A Wharton MBA himself, Ivan headed Yale SOM's Career Development Office and was also a Associate Director at Wharton's MBA Career Office. There are few people worldwide who have Ivan's know-how about MBA career strategy – listen on for the inside scoop! Questions, links and more at: http://www.touchmba.com/mba-careers-uncovered-ivan-kerbel/

We covered a wide range of admissions-related topics during our recent Yale SOM Q&A. Thank you to Bruce DelMonico, Director of Admissions at Yale SOM, for an excellent conversation! You can read the whole Yale Q&A transcript or listen to the full audio clip online. (You can also catch previous Q&As for other top programs on our MBA transcript page.) Here is some helpful advice for career changers from the Yale SOM Q&A: Linda Abraham: The next few questions are about career change: “How does Yale view career switchers? Does Yale provide opportunities to make that transition? Does it have a wide alumni network in high tech?” Bruce DelMonico: I’ll talk a little about career switchers generally... there are two aspects to it. One is the admissions component, which I know more intimately, and then there are the resources at Yale and the opportunity once you are on campus to make that switch. Many times people do choose to get the two-year full-time MBA specifically because they are switching careers, and they want and need that additional time to make that transition. Because if you are doing a part-time or a one-year program, you just don’t have the space to make the switch as effectively, and you need that additional year, you need some internship, to really make that transition. So it’s not uncommon for people to use a program like ours as a career pivot to make a switch. We are used to seeing that and we are comfortable with that, both on the admissions side and programmatically once students actually get into the program and begin the program... ...And in terms of opportunities to make that transition, we have a full-service Career Development Office that has a range of activities throughout the year to help students understand their opportunities, prepare for their opportunities, and then really design and execute their career search. And a lot of times, it involves a transition to something different than what they thought they were going to transition into when they applied. Linda Abraham: I think probably one key element would be transferable skills and knowledge. Bruce DelMonico: That is exactly right. And a lot of times it’s not really a matter of gaining those skills and knowledge because you have it, but helping recruiters and potential employers understand that you have those skills, that you’ve been able to acquire them in your past experience. But also to the extent that you haven’t been able to in your past work experience, have you been proactive about building your skills set in other ways in terms of your activities, in terms of your professional associations? View the full Yale SOM Q&A transcript or listen to the MP3 recording of the event now and check out our Yale SOM MBA essay tips. For more advice on applying to b-school as a career switcher, please view our on-demand webinar, MBA: Catalyst for Career Change. Accepted.com ~ Helping You Write Your Best

Christopher Teague, Associate Director of Suffolk Law's Career Development Office, discusses programming initiatives for Suffolk Law students and alumni.