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What a privilege it is to introduce to you Debbie Mirza! She is best-selling author of the book "The Covert Passive Aggressive Narcissist," one of the first books I ever read that opened my eyes to the nightmare that I was living. This book is an amazing resource for gaining awareness and understanding of covert narcissism. Her second book "Worthy of Love' presents a gentle and restorative path to healing after narcissistic abuse. Debbie is a beautiful testimony that healing is possible and thriving is obtainable. Debbie has such a gentle and tender heart for survivors of narcissistic abuse. Her gentle spirit and empowering strength are so encouraging and inspiring. She shows us all that it is possible to stand up for and protect yourself and yet maintain that kind and compassionate self that we all desire to be. To learn more about Debbie's work, visit www.debbiemirza.com June 1 is World Narcissistic Abuse Awareness Day. In honor of that day, for the entire month of June, I am offering all individual sessions with at a discounted rate of $99 per hour. We can meet once or we can meet as many times as you want. If you would like to take advantage of this offer, shoot me an email at renee@cnglifecoaching.com I also want to take a quick moment and remind you that my next round of group sessions is beginning on May 31. I only have a few spots left in these groups. You can choose between Tuesday mornings or Saturday mornings. Each group runs for 6 weeks. We meet for 2 hours on Zoom each week. You receive handouts and worksheets each week. Each group consists of 10 group members, who just like you are struggling through a relationship with a covert narcissist. It is incredibly empowering to work in a group setting where you receive so much validation for the pain, confusion and doubt that you are experiencing. If you want one of these few spots remaining, please do not hesitate to contact me. These groups will fill up.

In this episode, Emily chats with Debbie Mirza, a restorative coach, speaker, and author of 'The Covert Passive Aggressive Narcissist.' that has helped survivors understand and heal from traumatic relationships. Emily and Debbie discuss Debbie's journey of uncovering covert narcissism in a romantic relationship, the nuances of hidden abuse, ways to recognize and protect oneself from such toxic relationships, and so much more! If you are interested in learning more about CALIBRATE, head to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.wmnup.co/resources⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠! Tune in now! IF YOU ENJOY THE PODCAST… We would love for you to subscribe, rate, and review it on Apple Podcasts! This helps more people find the show and give it a listen. Thank you in advance :) WMNûp IN YOUR BUSINESS + LEADERSHIP:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠www.wmnup.co/momentum⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - Join us and become part of the 12% in this 12 month mastermind⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠www.wmnup.co/intensive⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - Join us for Q1 for the 90-Day Intensive⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠www.wmnup.co/membership⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - Join us inside the THE COMMUNITY by WMNûp ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.wmnup.co⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - Download the FREE Evolutionary Leadership Masterclass today to start your WMNûp journey. CONNECT WITH EMILY: Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠instagram.com/emilycasselofficial⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram.com/wmnup⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.wmnup.co⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ CONNECT WITH ​DEBBIE: Instagram:​ https://www.instagram.com/debbiemirza_author/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y%3D Website:​ https://www.debbiemirza.com

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Today Dr. C interviews author Debbie Mirza on her book, The Passive Aggressive Covert Narcissist. She describes what this pattern consists of, and the two of them discuss ways to stay out of their unique manipulations. To learn more about Debbie, visit her website at https://www.debbiemirza.com/. If you are interested in online therapy, Dr. Carter has a sponsor who can assist. Go to our sponsor https://betterhelp.com/drcarter for 10% off your first month of therapy with BetterHelp and get matched with a therapist who will listen and help. Listen to Dr. C's POPULAR PODCAST at https://anchor.fm/dr-les-carter. It also is available on Google, Apple, Spotify, and Amazon. Sign up for Dr. Carter's course: Ready, Set, Connect https://courses.survivingnarcissism.tv/courses/ready-set-connect Get 20% off when you use the coupon code: rsc20youtube Dr. Les Carter is a best selling author and therapist who has semi-retired to Waco, TX. For 40+ years he maintained a counseling practice in Dallas, conducting more than 65,000 therapy sessions and many workshops and seminars. He specializes in anger management and narcissistic personality disorder. Join the Team Healthy community HERE: https://survivingnarcissism.tv/subscribe/ Check out videos, articles, quizzes, and more at our website: https://survivingnarcissism.tv You can follow Surviving Narcissism on: Twitter: @SNarcissism101 Instagram: @survivingnarcissism101 Facebook: @survivingnarcissism101 Dr. Carter has two other courses that you may find to be useful: Free to Be: Reclaim & rediscover your uniqueness https://survivingnarcissism.tv/free-to-be-course/ This Is Me: Setting boundaries with the controllers in your life https://survivingnarcissism.tv/this-is-me Dr. Carter's personal website: http://drlescarter.com/ Dr. Carter's other YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/drlescarter Bookstore: https://survivingnarcissism.tv/books-on-narcissism-surviving-narcissism/

Why did I put up with this for so long?? How is that possible? I never even saw it! Are you kidding me? In the words of Debbie Mirza in her book Worthy of Love, “You were chosen to play a role you didn't even know you auditioned for." What role have you been playing? Maybe multiple roles. Where did you learn to play them? As kids growing up, we learned a way of interacting with our world. For me, I learned to put everyone else before me, that their feelings mattered and mine did not. And I truly took this to heart. This set the perfect stage for me to partner with a covert narcissist.    

It is such an honor to have Debbie Mirza on my podcast. She has been a huge part of my own healing journey, and I want to make her part of yours too. She has so much to offer to victims of covert narcissistic abuse.   Debbie is the author of the International Best-selling Book titled, The Covert Passive Aggressive Narcissist. She has also written Worthy of Love and The Safest Place Possible. She is a Restorative Coach, working with people who have experienced CN. Working with men and women on this healing journey.   Her work can be found at debbiemirza.com. We will be recording several episodes together, so stay tuned for more valuable information to come.

It is such an honor to have Debbie Mirza on my podcast. She has been a huge part of my own healing journey, and I want to make her part of yours too. She has so much to offer to victims of covert narcissistic abuse.   Debbie is the author of the International Best-selling Book titled, The Covert Passive Aggressive Narcissist. She has also written Worthy of Love and The Safest Place Possible. She is a Restorative Coach, working with people who have experienced CN. Working with men and women on this healing journey.   Her work can be found at debbiemirza.com. We will be recording several episodes together, so stay tuned for more valuable information to come.

It is such an honor to have Debbie Mirza on my podcast. She has been a huge part of my own healing journey, and I want to make her part of yours too. She has so much to offer to victims of covert narcissistic abuse.   Debbie is the author of the International Best-selling Book titled, The Covert Passive Aggressive Narcissist. She has also written Worthy of Love and The Safest Place Possible. She is a Restorative Coach, working with people who have experienced CN. Working with men and women on this healing journey.   Her work can be found at debbiemirza.com. We will be recording several episodes together, so stay tuned for more valuable information to come.

Since we are in mental awareness month, I thought about approaching this exact topic here on the channel. Normally I wouldn't approach such high and dense topics since I only feel like I generalize a lot, even if the information comes from literature, articles, reviews, institutions, and international organizations that deal with the issue. We explored what does Mental Health mean for us (as I asked you), some definitions of the most commonly used terms (such as anxiety, gaslighting), some trends in mental health awareness between 1993 and 2023 (30 years), and some applicable methods on how to make our day better if we feel down or in a bad mood. Before I go, here's the most common definition I could find about Mental health, as defined in the field of psychology: "Mental health refers to a person's emotional, psychological, and social well-being. It encompasses how individuals think, feel, and behave, and it influences how they handle stress, relate to others, and make choices." I hope this episodes lives up to the expectations! Thank you all for being understanding and empathic

Does your spouse or partner constantly criticize you, sulk, take credit for your ideas, display incongruent words and actions, exhibit silent rage, and withhold praise and recognition? If so, you may be in a relationship with a #covert passive-aggressive #narcissist. In this episode author Debbie Mirza shares her personal story, helps listeners identify #covertnarcissism and ways to heal. To learn more about Debbie, purchase her books and discover helpful, healing resources visit ⁠www.debbiemirza.com⁠

Unveiling the Truth Beneath the Confusion and Evolving. Join Debbie and Lorraine as they discuss the emotional impact covert passive aggressive narcissist create. Recovering from these crazy making relationships requires good information and Debbie empathically explains some insights into the recovery process. Narcissistic abuse and any type of toxic relationship affects us mentally, emotionally, physically, and psychologically. Part of the problem is none of it makes a lot of sense so confusion reigns. An inner judgement takes hold and it morphs into harmful self-beliefs causes many to experience low self-esteem, a feeling of hopelessness and crippling self-doubt. They feel shattered, confused, depressed, anxious, and overwhelmed with emotions. Symptoms of complex PTSD are common, as well as many types of chronic illness. These relationships can bring us to the depths of despair. Good information and knowing others have healed is Empowering! Healing after narcissistic abuse is possible, Debbie's book and insights during the podcast are comforting and inspiring. Fascinating conversation and personally love Debbie's answer to the Podcast Question of "What does humanity need to acknowledge and understand for us to evolve?" Text version of Debbie's answer @ lorrainenilon.com.au - Podcast Debbie Mirza show notes. Video version of Debbie's answer on: https://youtu.be/3XyFjtycrho Debbie's Book: The Covert Passive Aggressive Narcissist https://geni.us/covertnarcissist (amazon) Connect with Debbie Website: https://www.debbiemirza.com Lorraine's website: lorrainenilon.com.au Check out Gems of Wisdom from DEBBIE - Use them as journal prompts, contemplation points or conversation starters. https://www.facebook.com/LorraineNilon A special WORDS OF WISDOM form for reviews - https://form.jotform.com/Insight.../words-of-wisdom-reviews- Thought-Provoking videos and Flip the Book - https://youtube.com/@lorrainenilon Book a personal session with Lorraine https://calendly.com/lorrainenilon/60min Support the show- https://www.buymeacoffee.com/LorraineNilon Music by Joystock - https://www.joystock.org

Most people think of narcissists as obnoxious and self-absorbed. They're flashy, loud and charismatic. And it's obvious that they're looking out for #1. But a covert narcissist is much harder to identify. They are generally well-liked and well-respected by others. And the way they manipulate their partner is much more subtle and difficult to recognize. So, how do you know if you're in a relationship with a covert narcissist? Is there anything you can do to make the divorce process more manageable? Debbie Mirza is a speaker, singer/songwriter and restorative coach with expertise in helping people heal from covert narcissistic abuse. Debbie is also the bestselling author of The Covert Passive Aggressive Narcissist: Recognizing the Traits and Finding Healing After Hidden Emotional and Psychological Abuse, Worthy of Love: A Gentle and Restorative Path to Healing After Narcissistic Abuse and The Safest Place Possible: A Guide to Healing and Transformation. On this episode of Divorce Dialogues, Debbie joins Katherine to discuss what differentiates an overt narcissist from a covert one, explaining why it's challenging to recognize a lack of empathy in your marriage to a covert narcissist. Debbie walks us through the three phases of a relationship with a covert narcissist, describing how a covert narcissist cuts off their partner during the discard phase and makes divorce particularly brutal. Listen in for Debbie's insight on choosing an attorney who understands narcissism and learn how to protect yourself and your children through divorce from a covert narcissist. Topics Covered What it means to be diagnosed with narcissistic personality disorder What differentiates an overt narcissist from a covert narcissist Why it's challenging to recognize a lack of empathy in a covert narcissist Debbie's advice for someone divorcing a covert narcissist The type of person a covert narcissist targets for a relationship How a covert narcissist's words and actions don't match How a covert narcissist uses their partner as an energy supply The 3 phases of a relationship with a covert narcissist 1. Love bombing 2. Demeaning and devaluing 3. Discard What to look for in an attorney when divorcing a covert narcissist Protecting yourself and your children in divorce from a covert narcissist Connect with Debbie Mirza Debbie's Website: https://www.debbiemirza.com/ Debbie on Twitter: https://twitter.com/debmirza Debbie on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/debbiemirzacoaching Debbie on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/debbiemirza_author/ Debbie on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@debbiemirza1744 Connect with Katherine Miller The Center for Understanding Conflict: http://understandinginconflict.org/ Miller Law Group: https://westchesterfamilylaw.com/ Katherine on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/kemiller1 The New Yorker's Guide to Collaborative Divorce by Katherine Miller: https://www.amazon.com/New-Yorkers-Guide-Collaborative-Divorce/dp/0692496246 Email: katherine@miller-law.com Call (914) 738-7765 Resources DSM-5 Criteria for Narcissistic Personality Disorder: https://www.mind-diagnostics.org/blog/narcissistic-personality/narcissistic-personality-disorder-dsm-5-criteria-and-treatment-option The Covert Passive Aggressive Narcissist: Recognizing the Traits and Finding Healing After Hidden Emotional and Psychological Abuse by Debbie Mirza: https://www.amazon.com/Covert-Passive-Aggressive-Narcissist-Recognizing-Psychological/dp/099862134X/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr= Worthy of Love: A Gentle and Restorative Path to Healing After Narcissistic Abuse by Debbie Mirza: https://www.amazon.com/Worthy-Love-Restorative-Narcissistic-Narcissism/dp/0998621382/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1637933306&sr=8-1 The Safest Place Possible: A Guide to Healing and Transformation by Debbie Mirza: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0998621307/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i1

Episode: 25 Title: Covert Narcissist Parents   Date: October 4th Greetings to you! Welcome to my podcast journal where I share my awakening from my narcissist induced nightmare!  Hornswoggled means “to trick or deceive (someone)” and ohhh let me tell you, I have definitely been Hornswoggled and by someone so close to me, for at least the past 20 years. My Mom.  I have decided to share my experience to offer support to others who are going through the same thing my family is. The content I have found surrounding Narcissistic abuse by professionals and fellow survivors has brought me so much comfort in knowing we are not alone.  This Podcast is meant to share my experience, information I have found helpful and the sources so you can check it out on your own,  and share my feelings as I unpack this huge blow, as well as share content that has helped me find answers. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/hornswoggled/message

Cindy continues to share personal insights from her psychotherapy sessions. Cindy talks about her personal struggles with codependency, self-worth, self-acceptance, boundaries, control issues and her subconscious need to be valued. She also goes into great length about being a “parentified child” where she had to become the parent as a young child. In addition to sharing traumatic and personal stories as a young girl, Cindy quotes from many classic self-help books such as “Codependent No More” by Melody Beattie, “Complex PTSD: From Surviving to Thriving” by Pete Walker, “The Covert Passive Aggressive Narcissist” by Debbie Mirza and “Adult Children of Emotionally Immature Parents” by Lindsay C. Gibson, PsyD. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app

What a privilege it is to introduce to you Debbie Mirza! She is best-selling author of the book "The Covert Passive Aggressive Narcissist," one of the first books I ever read that opened my eyes to the nightmare that I was living. This book is an amazing resource for gaining awareness and understanding of covert narcissism. Her second book "Worthy of Love' presents a gentle and restorative path to healing after narcissistic abuse. Debbie is a beautiful testimony that healing is possible and thriving is obtainable. She is currently working on her 3rd and potentially final book in this mini-series. I look forward to reading that book as soon as it is available. Debbie has such a gentle and tender heart for survivors of narcissistic abuse. Her gentle spirit and empowering strength are so encouraging and inspiring. She shows us all that it is possible to stand up for and protect yourself and yet maintain that kind and compassionate self that we all desire to be. To learn more about Debbie's work, visit www.debbiemirza.com June 1 is World Narcissistic Abuse Awareness Day. In honor of that day, for the entire month of June, I am offering all individual sessions with at a discounted rate of $99 per hour. We can meet once or we can meet as many times as you want. If you would like to take advantage of this offer, shoot me an email at renee@cnglifecoaching.com I also want to take a quick moment and remind you that my next round of group sessions is beginning on May 31. I only have a few spots left in these groups. You can choose between Tuesday mornings or Saturday mornings. Each group runs for 6 weeks. We meet for 2 hours on Zoom each week. You receive handouts and worksheets each week. Each group consists of 10 group members, who just like you are struggling through a relationship with a covert narcissist. It is incredibly empowering to work in a group setting where you receive so much validation for the pain, confusion and doubt that you are experiencing. If you want one of these few spots remaining, please do not hesitate to contact me. These groups will fill up. renee@covertnarcissism.com or renee@cnglifecoaching.com --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/covertnarcissism/support

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On this episode of Melody and Friends, Melody speaks with author and speaker Debbie Mirza about covert passive aggressive narcissists and why they can be so difficult to detect in a relationship. Debbie shares her story of being married to a covert narcissist for almost 22 years and talks about her own healing as she went through a time of isolation. She and Melody discuss the signs to look for in someone who may be a covert narcissist, their different methods of manipulating their victims and what you can do to escape that relationship and begin your journey of healing and restoration. Our listeners can get in contact with Debbie and purchase her books including The Covert Passive Aggressive Narcissist on her website, debbiemirza.com Who is Debbie Mirza? Debbie is a best-selling author who is passionate about helping people heal after narcissistic abuse. She has personally experienced decades of covert narcissistic abuse and has a wealth of understanding on this topic stemming from her own life experience, education, and research. Debbie has been interviewed on several podcasts and online conferences. She has deep empathy for those who have dealt with this damaging form of narcissism.  She has created online courses to help with the healing process, one specifically on parenting when your ex is a covert narcissist, and one with helpful tips for starting your own in person support group. During her own healing, she went through a time of much isolation where she spent a lot of time in nature and at home taking care of her wounded heart. It was during this time that she wrote and recorded songs that would bring her and others calm, love, and tenderness. Things We Talked about in This Episode Debbie's experience with finding out her husband was a covert passive aggressive narcissist.  What it's like living with someone who has CPAN and how to identify some of the traits (well liked, well respected, but they are very chameleon-like). The differences between an overt and a covert narcissist. When you're with a covert narcissist there's always a question of “who are you really?”  How covert narcissists use silent rage rather than overt yelling and anger. The three stages a victim goes through in a relationship with a covert narcissist. Cover Narcissists ability to sabotage important days and them offering to “settle”.   Traits that are common in individuals that are missing from covert narcissists What gaslighting actually is in a relationship and what that looks like with covert narcissists How to escape those relationships and begin healing after that abuse.

Today I talk to Debbie Mirza about covert narcissism. Toxic relationships are devastating to our mental health, and trauma bonding often occurs. Narcissistic abuse can be very subtle, so knowing how to spot it is key. We explore how it shows up differently than traditional narcissism. How to spot it and avoid these toxic people and the red flags. We also explore how to heal from dating a narcissist.

Debbie Mirza is an author, coach, and singer/songwriter.  Her most recent book is The Covert Passive Aggressive Narcissist: Recognizing the Traits and Finding Healing after Hidden Emotional and Psychological Abuse. She is currently working on her third book that will focus exclusively on healing after covert emotional and psychological abuse. All her books are available on Amazon.Find more of Debbie at https://www.debbiemirza.com/About Sarahhttps://sarahkramsey.com/about-sarah/​Join the FREE FB group Finding Love and Success After a Toxic Relationshiphttps://www.facebook.com/groups/lovea​...Before trying Sarah K Ramsey's programs her clients were super embarrassed because on the outside these women appeared to have it all.  However, these women had a secret...they still felt mentally chained down by their toxic partner or parent.Most women think talk therapy is the only way to heal!  Unfortunately, these women waste years trying to figure out how codependency works, or rehashing their past in an office week after week trying to pick apart their childhoods.  But, Sarah's clients aren't “most people.”  They know overachievers aren't just looking to talk about their problem, they are looking for an action plan to SOLVE their problems!Check out this FREE presentation where Sarah reveals how she does it!https://joinnow.live/s/Es9tIC​Check out what others have said about Sarah.https://sarahkramsey.com/programs/​Contact Sarahhttps://sarahkramsey.com/contact/

Has your relationship with your partner or spouse changed so dramatically you don't even recognize it anymore? Is your partner or spouse depleting you and you just don't understand why? Has anyone suggested your partner or spouse may be a narcissist and you rejected that idea? Debbie Mirza, the bestselling author of The Covert Passive Aggressive Narcissist, joins Sisters Cracking Up and pulls back the curtain on the most insidious and toxic form of narcissism. 

Broadcaster, John Offord chats to Debbie Mirza, author of The Covert Passive Aggressive Narcissist and Linda Barnes, Admin for the Healing After Experiencing Covert Passive-Aggressive Narcissism Facebook Group about the differences between overt and covert narcissism. You can read more here www.debbiemirza.com --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/differentminds/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/differentminds/support

In this episode, Cindy Khoo takes on a listener question: Do Covert Narcissists Hurt You on Purpose or is it Subconscious? She breaks down the important difference between harm that's inflicted on purpose vs. by accident. Also addressed are the habitual motivations of the covert narcissist and how to deal. The answer to the question is more complicated than you think and may surprise you! Mentioned in this episode: "The Covert Passive Aggressive Narcissist" by Debbie Mirza

In this episode, Cindy Khoo takes on a listener question: Do Covert Narcissists Hurt You on Purpose or is it Subconscious? She breaks down the important difference between harm that's inflicted on purpose vs. by accident. Also addressed are the habitual motivations of the covert narcissist and how to deal. The answer to the question is more complicated than you think and may surprise you! Mentioned in this episode: "The Covert Passive Aggressive Narcissist" by Debbie Mirza

Broadcaster, John Offord chats to Debbie Mirza, author of The Covert Passive Aggressive Narcissist and Dr Robin Rise, a clinical psychologist about covert narcissism. After listening to the podcast, you can take a free quiz that will help you know if you are dealing with a covert narcissist on www.debbiemirza.com --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/differentminds/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/differentminds/support

Elle Russ chats with Debbie Mirza - a restorative coach, author, and singer/songwriter. She is the author of the best-selling book, The Covert Passive Aggressive Narcissist: Recognizing the Traits and Finding Healing After Hidden Emotional and Psychological Abuse, which has helped thousands of people around the world understand the most hidden and insidious form of narcissism that is currently affecting millions of people without them realizing what they are dealing with, and The Safest Place Possible: A Guide to Healing and Transformation, a book about the power of self-love to heal the mind, body. This book includes some of Debbie’s personal story of healing, as well as 21 practical, gentle exercises of self-love. As a coach, Debbie helps people recognize the truth of what they have experienced, and come back to their genuine magnificence, after being in relationships with covert narcissists. She offers supportive online courses as well as guided meditations and calming music to help with the healing process. Learn more about Debbie’s books, music, online courses, coaching, and guided meditations at DebbieMirza.com

Debbie Mirza is the author of Covert Passive Aggressive Narcissist and Safest Place Possible and is also a Restorative Coach. In this episode she joins us to talk about her new audio version of your Covert Passive Aggressive Narcissist book and to announce a new healing course that is releasing the same day as this podcast. Show Notes Debbie Mirza is the author of Covert Passive Aggressive Narcissist and is helping shed knowledge on a subject that is just now starting to get the attention it deserves. Debbie is a deeply spiritual person and felt she was drawn to write this book to help others struggling with covert narcissistic abuse. She is also a singer and a restorative coach. Links to find out more! YouTube Channel - Debbie Mirza Website - http://www.debbiemirza.com Book - The Covert Passive Aggressive Narcissist Book - The Safest Place Possible Workbook - The Safest Place Possible WorkBook Online Course - Healing and Clarity after Narcissistic Abuse Table of Contents Debbie Mirza - Author & Restorative Coach 00:32 - Debbie was kind enough to join us today to talk about her new book and talk about her journey through recovering from covert narcissistic abuse. Covert Passive Aggressive Narcissist Audio Book 01:03 - We discuss Debbie’s new audio version of her Covert Passive Aggressive Narcissist Audio Book Safest Place Possible 04:18 - Debbie talks about her first book, The Safest Place Possible, and how it came about. The Role Therapists Play 11:14 - Debbie and Duane discuss the role therapists play in narcissistic abuse recovery and how there is a lack of training and awareness of this problem in the professional community. Debbie Announces her new course 20:04 - Debbie announces and talks about her new course “Healing and Clarity”. End of Show Wrap Up 44:19 - End of show Wrap Up

In this episode Debbie Mirza, author of The Passive-Aggressive Covert Narcissist, and I are talking about covert narcissists and what it’s like to be in a relationship with one. You’ll finally understand why the covert narcissist in your life doesn’t seem like the description of the classic narcissist. You’ll find out about the traits of covert narcissists and how these types can be more dangerous than the overt ones.You’ll also learn some tips for recognizing when you’re dealing with a covert narcissist.www.InnerIntegration.comThe Journey: A Roadmap for Self-healing After Narcissistic AbuseBetterHelp — Get matched with a local therapist in your area who specializes in trauma & abuseSupport the show (https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=YGDXDNNER2C46)

Ever felt like your intimate friend is sabotaging you? They might be a covert narcissist… Debbie Mirza is the author of a hot new book, The Covert Passive Aggressive Narcissist: Recognizing the Traits and Finding Healing After Hidden Emotional and Psychological Abuse. Join us as Debbie describes how narcissists work and how to recover from...

Debbie Mirza is the author of Covert Passive Aggressive Narcissist and is helping shed knowledge on a subject that is just now starting to get the attention it deserves. Debbie is a deeply spiritual person and felt she was drawn to write this book to help others struggling with covert narcissistic abuse. She is also a singer and a restorative coach. Links to find out more! YouTube Channel - [Debbie Mirza] Website - [http://www.debbiemirza.com] Book - [The Covert Passive Aggressive Narcissist] Table of Contents Introduction to Debbie Mirza 00:20 - Debbie was kind enough to join us today to talk about her new book and talk about her journey through recovering from covert narcissistic abuse. The Covert Passive Aggressive Narcissist - The Book 01:34 - Debbie talks about her new book “[The Covert Passive Aggressive Narcissist]” which was release in January 2018. Since the release of her book her eyes are being opened to the impact covert passive aggressive narcissists are having all around the world. In one example she shares a story from one of her readers who credits her book with helping to save her life. Validation is so important and it is critical when trying to recover from the aftermath of a covert narcissistic relationship. After a really bad episode of PTSD when she had retreated into her room the idea and title of the book materialized almost as if in a dream. She took that fierceness that was growing inside of her and focused that energy to write this book. Debbie recalled how she was unable to find a book like this when she was recovering so she decided to fill that gap. Writing the book was a daunting process and initially she was worried what her narcissist and their “flying monkeys” would say or do about it. But she took that fear and changed her directing to focus on the readers of the book and she kept them in her mind and that gave her so much love and care for them. During the course of writing this book she interviewed hundreds of people to get their experience. The incredible journey 11:36 - Debbie dives into the incredible journey that was the research phase of the book. The interviews included people all over the world. One of the amazing things she was surprised to learn is how everyone’s experiences and stories were so similar. It didn’t matter if you were in the United States or on the other side of the world the emotional trauma and the way the narcissist acted were the same. In the early days of both our recoveries information just wasn’t really available to the level that was really necessary for the community. Books and resources were either clinical without real in-depth knowledge of the level and severity of the abuse. When Debbie’s book “The Covert Passive Aggressive Narcissist” was released there really wasn’t another book like it. Validation is important to initially understand 14:27 - Debbie and Duane talk about the critical importance of validation when trying to heal from narcissistic abuse. The experience is so unreal that it is difficult for the target of the abuse to really understand and believe what they are experiencing is real. Couple this with the fact that most people, who haven’t experienced it, are in no position to provide heal emotional support for the target and tend to make things worse. They also discuss the importance of self-validation and how it is critical to learn how to NOT require the validation of other people. The biggest “take away” from the last six months 14:50 - Debbie talks about her continued growth and journey over the last six months since releasing her book. A side effect from the research and writing the book was dredging up old memories and experiences that really took a toll on her healthy. During the research she pulled out her old journals she wrote throughout the course of her life. The details in those journals brought back those memories and feelings and helped her realize she was remembering things differently that they obviously occurred. Debbie realized just how truly unhappy and alone she felt when in the midst of these toxic relationships. She documented these feelings but incorrectly placed the cause with other aspects of her life such as diet, work, job, anything other than the true source of her emotional and physical distress. The importance of what is not there 18:32 - One of the major epiphanies Debbie had when going through this is how we tend to focus on what “is” there instead of what is missing and isn’t there in the relationship. Very often during these toxic relationships we are not focusing on what they aren’t offering. For instance she had a handful of very serious medical emergencies and instead of getting love and attention as you would expect from someone that truly cares about you she instead was greeted with distain and the abscesses of love and compassion. We often don’t look at the simple truth that when someone truly cares they would be devastated if they thought they would lose us to a medical emergency. She also talks about how this is even more complicated with a covert narcissist because they can put on a show for people so they “think” they are really caring and loving when in fact they are the opposite. Outsiders see this facade and think we must be very “lucky” to have this person in our lives, but they don’t see the monster behind the curtain. How this impacted her health 21:09 - This journey into self reflection and the source of the trauma all took a toll on her body and she developed high blood pressure. This really upped all her energy and made just daily activities really difficult. She tried many different things from medication and diet without success in reducing her high blood pressure. She ultimately was introduced to the work of [Dr. Joe Dispenza’s work and his new book “Becoming Super Natural”] and it changed her life. Dr. Dispenza is very scientific and does an excellent job of explaining the effects of trauma on the human body. This information helped her understand how powerful fear, anxiety, helplessness and how with time that becomes our “default state”. The effect is that it keeps our bodies in an unhealthy “mode” and it takes active steps to break that cycle. She realized she had to change her emotional state to retrain her body that “we are going a different way now”. The other thing that really helped her in this was the importance of both meditation and guided meditation. This was very important to help her change her emotional state to focus on gratitude, joy and love which had a really positive effect on her life. This process is teaching your body a new way and for her the results are that she is completely off the blood pressure medication and she is feeling much better. The importance of retreats for emotional healing 27:44 - Debbie talks about her exciting new direction where she is planning to announce the creation of healing retreats to help people in their recovery process. She is a big believer in retreats because they enable you to get away from your “life”, take a break, get out in nature, and be among a group of safe and supportive people who truly understand you. These retreats will empower people with new tools they will be able to take back home with them to help them transform their lives. The first retreats will be in her home state of Colorado but she plans to create more exotic and exclusive retreats that will be hosted in an island off the coast of Spain. The result is taking “no contact” to an entirely different level and enabling you to truly focus on your own personal growth and healing. The healing process will profoundly change your live in a very positive way. Debbie further discusses how this has been such an eye opening experience and how you really learn that you can can have and gain a truly genuine and peaceful life. She also talks about the tremendously positive impact her own mother had on her life and she credits her love and guidance in helping her to have the strength to write this book. I needed to experience this to make the book possible 35:30 - Debbie tells the story of a conversation she had with a dear friend she has known since the 7th grade. Her friend was commenting on how she was sorry for her that she had to go through so much hardship and pain throughout her life. That conversation helped Debbie realize that the experience was needed to give her the knowledge, perspective, and strength to be able to heal and ultimately write this book. Without this knowledge she wouldn’t have the experience to truly help people understand their own personal experience and trauma and ultimately heal. She also reflects that even though this has been a tremendously painful process she would go through this again because she’s seen the positive impact it has had on her readers and viewers of her YouTube channel. Ultimately, she reflects, when we help each other we help to make this a better place! When things become crystal clear 41:46 - Everything starts to change once you begin to really see what is going on and things become crystal clear. When you are able to see through toxic covert narcissistic behavior that you weren’t able to before you no longer have self doubts about your experience. Even with this personal growth Debbie continues to be a target of so much rage from her narcissist and their flying monkeys. One common phenomenon when narcissists is they get worse as they get older. Even with this Debbie is getting stronger in dealing with these situations and people. The “gift” in all of this is that she cares less and less what people think about her. She is starting to do things that are “right for her” instead of worrying what people will think. As you heal, she reflects, you get to a place in your life where you can live life feeling joy and allowing your protagonist to “have their own journey”. She also brings up the point again that when you can “self-validate” you aren’t worried about what other people think about you and it gives you strength. As a result of this growth she is learning to trust her self more and more every single day. One reality that we all wake up with when healing from this is there really are a lot of toxic people in the world. Debbie acknowledges she has a bit of a “[Pollyanna Syndrome]” and it has skewed her world view in a positive light. When that realization first comes crushing down it can have a profound impact on your life. As a result she spent a bit of time where she didn’t leave her house much because she didn’t want to interact with people. This retreat from the world allowed her to escape and just focus on her own recovery. Fortunately most of her work can be done from home so it didn’t negatively impact her life. This entire experience has helped her make different life decisions. She has reprioritized her life and she is actively seeking out more peaceful situations for her life. Her focus now is to stay away from larger cities and stay near nature. She also discusses how with the newfound knowledge you don’t loose yourself but you gain knowledge and strength to recognize toxic people. It is important to gain this skill because it enables you to avoid or remove these people from your life. Throughout this journey she’s recognized and learned who she really is. She says, “You become pretty invisible when you know who you are and you no longer need validation from other people.” You also learn who are the really good people in your life, who you must interact with and who ultimately you can just remove from your life. Find a local Meetup Group 53:41 - One of the things that Debbie really recommends for people starting their recovery is to seek out a local in-person support group. These meet-up groups can really help you through the process. She used to lead a meet-up group in the Denver Colorado area that she’s since handed over to [Tracy Malone]. If you have the strength it can be incredibly helpful to meet and hear real stories of other survivors. This really helped her and opened her eyes. Being in a safe place with people who truly understand what you’ve been through is an incredibly healing experience. She further comments how it is so hard to see the reality when you are on an island and isolated from others who understand. Most of the time the unfortunate reality is the people in our lives do not have the experience to really be helpful when we are struggling. Debbie recommends, if a local meet-up group isn’t available, to seek out resources online such as livestreams and Facebook groups. It is just important to find validation for your experiences. Thank you and more information on how to find Debbie 56:05 - We wrap up the show with Debbie Mirza and she talks about her online social media presents and where you can find out more about what she’s doing.

Tracy Malone is the founder of the Narcissist Abuse Support website and the Tracy A Malone YouTube channel. She is a survivor of a lifetime of unknown narcissistic abuse from her family of origin as well as relationships and marriages in her adulthood. During her path of healing she developed the Narcissist Abuse Support website as a resource for survivors with over 1000 free listings available sorted state by state. Links to find out more! YouTube Channel - https://www.youtube.com/tracyamalone Website - https://narcissistabusesupport.com/ FaceBook - https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=188681268196044&ref=br_rs Tracy's Story - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Od60naaSumI&list=PLjF1_YLC3SX4d35qCd_MIe4XBL_yXazWA Table of Contents Introduction to Tracy A Malone 00:00:16 - Tracy Malone is a narcissistic abuse survivor who has taken her experience and turned it into multiple resources to help others going through similar experiences. She has a background in marketing and website design and has used those skills to create her YouTube channel Tracy A Malone, her Narcissist Abuse Support website https://narcissistabusesupport.com, and a Podcast. Angie Atkinson did an interview with her and “the other women” in their her relationship to highlight their story. How we met over a year ago 00:02:53 - A little over a year ago I was looking for help with my website and I found Tracy on Twitter talking about narcissistic abuse but her site was a web marketing business. So I reached out to her not realizing she had her own channel and around the same time she just did an interview on Angie Atkinson’s channel. The start of her journey to collect this information 00:03:38 - When Tracy learned about narcissistic abuse about two and half years ago she went looking for information and couldn’t find resources. She found information that every state has but it wasn’t easily accessible for the individual looking for support. She did find a therapist that validated her experience but she wanted to consolidate that information and put it in one place to help people. So many survivors just do not know where to turn for good information. Tracy also talks about her hyper vigilant experience and turning into a “detective” to try and figure out what was going on. In her area the only resource she found was a therapist that was $800 a week, most people can’t afford that and the free resources really work. She also talks about how emotional, financial and sexual abuse are how they are also included in the domestic violence umbrella. It’s the actions you have to focus on 00:11:00 - Tracy talks about her experience within the domestic violence community and how you really have to focus on the actions of the abuser. Throwing terms around like “narcissist” can actually hinder your ability to get support and to be believed. Tracy is working closely with the domestic violence support community to learn more about the resources and the way professionals, to include law enforcement, approach these complex situations. Still working on herself to improve her live 00:14:10 - Tracy discusses her self improvement path and how she is still working on herself. She talks about how when you open up this “can of worms” and start learning about all of this and about issues you were holding on to but that were buried. We talk about how our past is how we end up in these toxic relationships in the first place. Working on your self, although a lot of work, gives us a tremendous “payoff’ with a better life and removing the toxic from our lives. Tracy’s Narcissist Setup 00:16:27 - Tracy quickly dives in to her story of how her narcissist set her up and had her arrested for domestic violence. This was the lowest point in her life and was worse than her divorce from her husband that she thought was the worst thing she had ever experienced. This experience caused her to look in to herself and really take that step to start learning about her life and how she got here. She also talks about how a lot of people get stuck learning about their abuser and do not take the next step to learn about themselves. Tracy talks about how if you do not address the cause of how you pulled these toxic people into your life you will do it again. When you work on yourself you learn to set boundaries and take care of your own issues like codependency or being a people pleaser. What Tracy is most proud of with the site 00:18:21 - Tracy talks about all the people she’s met in this arena that are helping and doing great things in the community. She is using her platform to teach people other modalities of helping people to get better. In this she’s partnered with others to create two courses on her site that are available right now. One is focused on getting out of the Post Traumatic Stress Disorder where triggers are negatively effecting your life. The second course is focused on getting rid of the anger and the forgiveness piece of the healing process. She is also working on a boundary course based off what she has been teaching in her meet up groups in her local area. Local meet-up groups 00:20:09 - Tracy talks about her local meet-up groups. When she originally was looking for a support group there wasn’t one in her area. She was used to the “meet-up” group that she had used for other interests like the Wordpress group she was a member of. So she just started one on meetup.com and it quickly grew with people signing up to join. Within the first week there were 17 people signed up and on the first meeting they had 10 people. Tracy also talks about different areas you can use as space for the meeting. Before starting her first meeting she reached out to all the different narcissistic abuse recovery meet-up groups for advice. Tracy has noticed that in her meet-up group the people effected are different. Sometimes it’s all children of narcissist other times it’s half and half with divorce. A lot of people drive a couple of hours to attend the meeting. Hosting Special Guests at the Meet-ups 00:25:17 - Tracy has also worked with various leaders in the narcissistic abuse recovery community to be guest speakers at the local meet ups. [Dr. Karyl McBride] was one such guest who has written “Will I ever Be Good Enough” and “Will I Ever Be Free of You?” To talk to the members of the group. When you are questioning if you should go to a meet-up 00:25:51 - Tracy talks about the going to a meeting that might be a few hours a way. She recommends that you do it, even if once. Plus if you go and see how one is run then it will give you ideas on how to create your own support meet-up group in your local area. She also talks about how you don’t have to be a therapist or even a YouTuber to create a meet-up group in your area. We also talk about how the community of targeted people are generally really good empathic people. Tracy has a list of the current narcissistic abuse recovery meet-up groups which sadly only includes ones in the United States. The website also has a therapist directory 00:30:12 - Tracy has also created a directory of other resources to include therapists from all over the world. Once a month she updates the list to keep the things current. The resources include the state provide services, blog post written by over 150 contributors, and books. Helping you setup your own meet-up group 00:32:19 - Tracy is will to help others who are interested in setting up their own local groups. If you are interested in setting up your own group you can email Tracy and she will provide you help! Tracy is working to influencers into her meetings 00:33:13 - During her meeting she’s also bringing other influencers in via remote Zoom meetings. A few weeks prior to the recording of this podcast she was able to bring [Ross Rosenberg] into the meet up. He created a presentation and recorded it for the audience. It was a combination of Q&A and a presentation. As of the time of this podcast/show notes the video of this session has not been posted. What is the next step in her journey 00:36:09 - Tracy talks about the next step in her journey and what she is planning to do for her community. Her next goal is to find ways to create funding to provide more services to her local and online community. She hopes to be able to provide a more robust service to help people who are struggling with this type of abuse. Tracy talks about as she works with the domestic violence community she’s getting a bigger picture view of the problem and ways she could further help. Tracy and Duane talk about the balance of doing this “part time” and growing these community into a self sustaining endeavor. Parental Alienation and the local college 00:38:32 - Tracy recently met with a professor from her local area college that is working on gathering hard data concerning parental alienation. She has also given a TEDx talk concerning her findings her team and all the research. This professor is working on a peer reviewed paper in an effort to have parental alienation classified as domestic violence. Change is starting to occur and the awareness and data is helping to modify the way parental alienation is looked at within the family court system and public services. Tracy brings the conversation back around about why it is so important with the meet-ups to have people who understand what you are going through. It is so difficult when outsiders just can’t comprehend your personal experience. You can find [Tracy interview with Professor Jennifer Harman] from the University of Colorado. New quiz to help people identify what stage they are in 00:43:55 - Tracy and her team have developed a new quiz on the [www.narcissistabusesupport.com] site help people determine where they are at in the process. This then funnels them into the correct stage of information to help them the most in their healing process. The link for the [Stage of Recovery Quiz]! Free Drawing for one of Tracy’s Courses 00:45:38 - Tracy offers a free drawing for one lucky listen for either “Getting over the Anger” or the “PTSD Trigger Course”. To enter this drawing leave a comment on the post for the show notes of the podcast and say “#IWantToHeal” and one week after this show publishes I will pick one user at random to get one of the courses. End of show wrap-up 00:46:46 - End of show wrap-up and a teaser for next week’s episode with Debbie Mirza the author of The Covert Passive Aggressive Narcissist