How I Write

I interviewed Robert Macfarlane, a writer who has mastered the art of nature writing. What makes him fascinating isn't just that he writes beautifully about landscapes, but how he thinks about language itself. We talked about why he rewrites first sentences hundreds of times, what happens when entire languages die forever, why AI makes all writing sound the same, and how to build a stronger feel for using vivid and rich language. If you want to write more powerfully and develop your distinctive voice, this conversation will show you how to do that. Enjoy! Hey! I'm David Perell and I'm a writer, teacher, and podcaster. I believe writing online is one of the biggest opportunities in the world today. For the first time in human history, everybody can freely share their ideas with a global audience. I seek to help as many people publish their writing online as possible. Follow me Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-i-write/id1700171470 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DavidPerellChannel X: https://x.com/david_perell Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I interviewed Paul Harding, who won the Pulitzer Prize for Fiction for his very first novel Tinkers. Unlike most novelists, he's not really interested in plots, and only halfway interested in characters. So what is he interested in? He's focused on describing the wonders and mysteries of life, teaching us how to see, hear, and feel more vividly, and how to translate those sensations onto the page. Hey! I'm David Perell and I'm a writer, teacher, and podcaster. I believe writing online is one of the biggest opportunities in the world today. For the first time in human history, everybody can freely share their ideas with a global audience. I seek to help as many people publish their writing online as possible. Follow me Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-i-write/id1700171470 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DavidPerellChannel X: https://x.com/david_perell Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I'm here at Harvard in the office of Steven Pinker. He's written nine books and spent his life studying language, cognition, and writing. In this interview, we started with the practical: the rules of writing. But what makes him unique is that he's been thinking about AI since the 1980s. So if you're interested in doing great non-fiction writing in the age of LLMs, this interview is for you. Hey! I'm David Perell and I'm a writer, teacher, and podcaster. I believe writing online is one of the biggest opportunities in the world today. For the first time in human history, everybody can freely share their ideas with a global audience. I seek to help as many people publish their writing online as possible. Follow me Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-i-write/id1700171470 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DavidPerellChannel X: https://x.com/david_perell Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ezra Klein is one of the internet's most influential journalists. He co-founded Vox in 2014, and it was there he really pioneered this new era of online journalism. Remember those Vox explainer videos that were so popular? As I've recorded this, he's got the #1 book on the New York Times bestseller list. We talked about the state of media, why pieces need to be longer not shorter, how he reads to understand the world, and why he's skeptical that AI will ever change the craft of deep and meaningful journalism. Hey! I'm David Perell and I'm a writer, teacher, and podcaster. I believe writing online is one of the biggest opportunities in the world today. For the first time in human history, everybody can freely share their ideas with a global audience. I seek to help as many people publish their writing online as possible. Follow me Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-i-write/id1700171470 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DavidPerellChannel X: https://x.com/david_perell Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dune. Forrest Gump. Benjamin Button. Eric Roth wrote all of them. He's been nominated for seven Oscars and won Best Adapted Screenplay for Forrest Gump. I got the chance to ask him about how you find a deeper theme in a story, what a writer can do to really move people, and what it's actually like working with people like David Fincher, Steven Spielberg, and Martin Scorsese. Eric Roth is one of the greatest screenwriters of our time, hope you enjoy this one. Hey! I'm David Perell and I'm a writer, teacher, and podcaster. I believe writing online is one of the biggest opportunities in the world today. For the first time in human history, everybody can freely share their ideas with a global audience. I seek to help as many people publish their writing online as possible. Follow me Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-i-write/id1700171470 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DavidPerellChannel X: https://x.com/david_perell Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Michael Jamin has been writing Hollywood sitcoms for 28 years on shows like King of the Hill and Beavis and Butt-Head. Unlike most comedy writers, he's not focused on punchlines, he's more focused on building rich characters, developing deep storylines, and layering the comedy on top. But how do you do that? That's what this episode is all about. Enjoy! Hey! I'm David Perell and I'm a writer, teacher, and podcaster. I believe writing online is one of the biggest opportunities in the world today. For the first time in human history, everybody can freely share their ideas with a global audience. I seek to help as many people publish their writing online as possible. Follow me Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-i-write/id1700171470 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DavidPerellChannel X: https://x.com/david_perell Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dean Koontz has written over 100 books and sold more than 500 million copies, making him one of the best-selling authors of all time. I visited Dean at his home and personal library to understand what truly sets him apart. Unlike most mass-market writers, Dean is obsessed with the craft. He doesn't just write stories, he truly lives for the beauty of the English language. We talked about why he stopped outlining his novels and how to build characters that feel alive. But honestly, this conversation goes way deeper than just writing. I think you're going to love it. Enjoy! Hey! I'm David Perell and I'm a writer, teacher, and podcaster. I believe writing online is one of the biggest opportunities in the world today. For the first time in human history, everybody can freely share their ideas with a global audience. I seek to help as many people publish their writing online as possible. Follow me Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-i-write/id1700171470 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DavidPerellChannel X: https://x.com/david_perell Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The world isn't made of atoms, it's made of stories. I've never heard anyone speak so deeply about interviewing. Johann Hari has written four books, and for each one he travels the globe to record hundreds of conversations. In this episode, he'll explain exactly how he does it, sharing stories of getting up close and personal with homeless people in Vegas and a crack dealer in New York. In the end you'll hear a wild story of the apple in Vietnam that almost killed him. Enjoy! Hey! I'm David Perell and I'm a writer, teacher, and podcaster. I believe writing online is one of the biggest opportunities in the world today. For the first time in human history, everybody can freely share their ideas with a global audience. I seek to help as many people publish their writing online as possible. Follow me Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-i-write/id1700171470 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DavidPerellChannel X: https://x.com/david_perell Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Will Storr has written 7 books and he's basically a scientist for storytelling. Now you might be thinking: Do we really need another storytelling guy? But Will is different. That's because he doesn't just talk about plot or the hero's journey, he focuses on character. Great stories don't start with plot… they start with people. The best part? By the time you're done with the episode, you'll have the tools to be a better storyteller in your next conversation.   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Architect Michael Dean breaks down the hidden patterns behind the great essays of our time. In this video, we go over his 27-point framework that makes up every world class piece of writing and how he uses the same system to analyze the Guggenheim and Apple Store. We also talk about what skills will still matter as AI continues to improve and why learning to write might be more important than ever. Enjoy! A few links: Join the Essay Architecture beta: https://essayarchitecture.com/ Follow Michael Dean on Substack: https://michaeldean.site/ Hey! I'm David Perell and I'm a writer, teacher, and podcaster. I believe writing online is one of the biggest opportunities in the world today. For the first time in human history, everybody can freely share their ideas with a global audience. I seek to help as many people publish their writing online as possible. Follow me Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-i-write/id1700171470 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DavidPerellChannel X: https://x.com/david_perell Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The old communications playbook is dead: Political and company narratives used to be controlled by publicists and journalists. But now, founders can Go Direct. The question is… how? How do you spread a message in this new world? Lulu Cheng Meservey has worked with companies like Substack, Anduril, and Activision Blizzard, and this is her tell-all about how to build your own platform, build your own audience, and shape your own narrative. 00:00:00 Intro 00:00:32 Why you should go direct 00:03:23 Opinions became decentralized 00:09:36 Coaching founders to go direct 00:15:20 Laying out your comms strategy 00:17:51 Crafting a message that sticks 00:22:57 Should founders use AI to write? 00:27:01 Tapping into the cultural sixth sense 00:32:13 Say what no one else will 00:35:20 Why AI can't fake emotion 00:41:23 The power of the right messenger 00:47:31 Borrowing tactics from elections 00:55:12 Apple vs. crypto cults 01:02:38 What to do when launching 01:07:06 Stop making narcissistic announcements 01:09:55 Why slogans actually work 01:14:29 CrowdStrike's tone problem Hey! I'm David Perell and I'm a writer, teacher, and podcaster. I believe writing online is one of the biggest opportunities in the world today. For the first time in human history, everybody can freely share their ideas with a global audience. I seek to help as many people publish their writing online as possible. Follow me Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-i-write/id1700171470 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DavidPerellChannel X: https://x.com/david_perell Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Get my free PDF on using LLM's for writer's + my in-depth prompts: https://perell.com/ai AI has triggered an existential crisis for me. In this episode, I share my thoughts on standing out as a writer with AI and how I use it everyday. This is one of the most in-depth looks at what it means to be a writer in 2025. Hey! I'm David Perell and I'm a writer, teacher, and podcaster. I believe writing online is one of the biggest opportunities in the world today. For the first time in human history, everybody can freely share their ideas with a global audience. I seek to help as many people publish their writing online as possible. Follow me Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-i-write/id1700171470 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2DjMSboniFAeGA8v9NpoPv YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DavidPerellChannel X: https://x.com/david_perell Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, I sit down with YouTube storytelling master Johnny Harris to discover how he creates his videos. Johnny Harris has proven he can make pretty much anything go viral, from breakfast and lottery tickets to bread-making and extra virgin olive oil. We look at his entire creative process, breaking down exactly what makes his storytelling so addicting to watch. We cover the complete workflow: writing, drafting, editing, visual composition, and sound design. By the end of this video, you'll walk away with practical tools to become a better visual storyteller yourself. Enjoy! Get 60 days free Readwise Reader at https://readwise.io/davidperell/ 00:00:00 Intro 00:00:35 The Video Process 00:09:18 How to Research for a Documentary 00:10:10 The Marketing for a Video 00:13:15 Scripted vs Unscripted Content 00:15:18 The only app I use to read articles [Readwise Reader] 00:16:44 Full Breakdown of Johnny Harris' 4M View Mormon Video 00:45:34 Balancing Personal Passion vs Views 00:50:27 Every Story is a Promise 00:51:47 Highlighting Paradoxes in Human Stories 00:58:56 The "There's More Going On" Approach 01:03:20 Vox vs Independent YouTube 01:04:26 Pillars of YouTube Writing 01:05:27 Dealing with the Details in Complex Stories 01:07:19 The Art of Surprising Viewers 01:11:33 Learning from The Economist 01:18:11 Human Stories 01:21:05 Craftsmanship in the AI Age 01:24:02 How Would Johnny Harris Teach a University Class Johnny Harris https://www.youtube.com/@johnnyharris https://www.patreon.com/johnnyharris https://www.instagram.com/johnny.harris/ I also made a website that helps you learn from the best writing of all-time: https://writingexamples.com/ Hey! I'm David Perell and I'm a writer, teacher, and podcaster. I believe writing online is one of the biggest opportunities in the world today. For the first time in human history, everybody can freely share their ideas with a global audience. I seek to help as many people publish their writing online as possible. Follow me Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-i-write/id1700171470 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2DjMSboniFAeGA8v9NpoPv X: https://x.com/david_perell Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Tyler Cowen, an economist and writer, talks with me about how AI is changing writing and research. He explains a practical approach to using AI tools while maintaining your own voice. He explains the ways he incorporates LLMs into his daily work. We talk about how people will be writing fewer books in the future and how he believes truly human writing will stand out among AI-generated content. Enjoy! Redeem your free week of Lex at https://lex.page/perell 0:00 Intro 1:00 How Tyler Cowen uses AI everyday 6:06 Hallucinations are rapidly declining now 9:28 Writing authentically with AI 11:34 AI for critiquing your work 17:29 Future of decentralized AI networks 20:34 How and why DeepSeek 22:21 How AI changes writing 24:04 Why there will be less books in an AI era 26:34 Video content will rise 28:17 Start Writing with AI [LEX AD] 29:18 AI Writing a personal biography 30:46 How you can tactically learning about AI 37:12 How AI can help you visualize information 38:31 Creating the perfect AI prompt 42:10 AI's impact in the classroom 46:56 Studying The Bible with AI 49:11 Secrets 50:10 Why social networks are more important now 51:48 Mastering AI prompting 53:58 Mentoring young people 54:49 Would you invest 4 years in a PhD 59:59 Perplexity replaces Google 01:01:09 The different AI tools, explained 01:05:43 The potential of large context windows 01:08:11 AI usage inside companies I also made a website that helps you learn from the best writing of all-time: https://writingexamples.com/ Hey! I'm David Perell and I'm a writer, teacher, and podcaster. I believe writing online is one of the biggest opportunities in the world today. For the first time in human history, everybody can freely share their ideas with a global audience. I seek to help as many people publish their writing online as possible. Follow me  Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-i-write/id1700171470  Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2DjMSboniFAeGA8v9NpoPv  X: https://x.com/david_perell Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dana Gioia is a poet, former Chairman of the NEA, and one of America's most insightful writers on the craft of poetry and prose. This is the deepest conversation I've ever had about writing. Dana breaks down the writing process from his first drafts to revision, and shares practical wisdom about finding your voice and creating work that lasts. His straightforward approach makes writing less intimidating and more accessible to anyone who loves language. Enjoy! Get 60 days free Readwise Reader at https://readwise.io/davidperell/ 0:00 First Drafts 7:52 The Power of Saying No 11:48 Objectivity in Writing 18:05 Learning from Writers 21:29 Daily Writing Routine 28:30 Poetry Analysis: Catullus 29:05 Production vs Consumption 36:07 Opera as Poetic Drama 43:47 Finding Your Voice 46:09 Personal vs Universal Writing 52:17 Breaking into Publishing 57:01 Writing Through Grief 1:05:21 Emotional Directness 1:10:16 Teaching Poetry 1:14:30 Poetry in Education 1:20:48 Unifying Literary Works 1:23:15 Patience in Writing 1:26:17 Improving Your Poetry 1:30:48 The Art of Description 1:34:34 Reading to Write Better 1:38:08 Creating a Masterpiece 1:45:08 Book Writing Process 1:47:45 The Art of Revision 1:48:45 Peer Feedback 1:55:47 The only app I use to read articles [Readwise Reader] 1:57:11 Anatomy of a Poem 2:02:29 Writing with Gratitude 2:08:00 Corporate World Lessons 2:16:40 Writing in Digital Culture 2:24:30 Poetry and Magic 2:28:55 Being a Catholic Writer 2:36:17 Catholic Literary Culture 2:37:40 Biblical Language in Poetry 2:39:51 Commonplace Books 2:45:24 Literary Influences 2:51:38 Cheever on Death 2:53:11 Tarantino vs. Tolkien 2:54:54 Tolstoy vs. Dostoevsky 2:55:47 The Modern Novel 3:01:18 Characters in Opera 3:09:06 Understanding Your Genre Dana Gioia https://danagioia.com I also made a website that helps you learn from the best writing of all-time: https://writingexamples.com/ Hey! I'm David Perell and I'm a writer, teacher, and podcaster. I believe writing online is one of the biggest opportunities in the world today. For the first time in human history, everybody can freely share their ideas with a global audience. I seek to help as many people publish their writing online as possible. Follow me Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-i-write/id1700171470 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2DjMSboniFAeGA8v9NpoPv X: https://x.com/david_perell Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ward Farnsworth is a law professor and former dean at the University of Texas School of Law who has written popular books about clear thinking, language, and philosophy. His books include Classical English Style and works on rhetoric and legal writing. He's a genius at making complex ideas simple and useful for everyday life. Enjoy! Get 60 days free Readwise Reader at https://readwise.io/davidperell/ TIMESTAMPS 00:00:00 Intro 00:04:53 Example 1 (King James Bible) 00:07:09 Example 2 (Winston Churchill) 00:11:45 Example 3 (Winston Churchill) 00:15:19 Example 4 (King James Bible) 00:18:18 Example 5 (Abraham Lincoln) 00:22:57 Example 6 (Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.) 00:26:40 Classical English Rhetoric 00:27:40 Example 7 (Abraham Lincoln) 00:29:59 Example 8 (Abraham Lincoln) 00:31:48 The only app I use to read articles [Readwise Reader] 00:33:15 Example 9 (Winston Churchill) 00:35:53 Example 10 (Lloyd Bentsen) 00:38:34 Example 11 (JFK) 00:42:00 Example 12 (Abraham Lincoln) 00:43:40 Example 13 (Henry Fielding - Tom Jones) 00:45:32 Example 14 (King James Bible) 00:47:42 The 3 Techniques, explained 00:52:24 Practical advice for everyone 00:56:08 The ideal writing curriculum WARD FARNSWORTH http://wardfarnsworth.com/ I also made a website that helps you learn from the best writing of all-time: https://writingexamples.com/ Hey! I'm David Perell and I'm a writer, teacher, and podcaster. I believe writing online is one of the biggest opportunities in the world today. For the first time in human history, everybody can freely share their ideas with a global audience. I seek to help as many people publish their writing online as possible. FOLLOW ME YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DavidPerellChannel Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-i-write/id1700171470 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2DjMSboniFAeGA8v9NpoPv X: https://x.com/david_perell Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Alex Hormozi has written two killer business books that have sold more than 1M copies. His writing has gotten him to 9M followers across social media. This is the first interview where he breaks down his writing system. Get 60 days free Readwise Reader at https://readwise.io/davidperell/ I also made a website that helps you learn from the best writing of all-time: https://writingexamples.com/ TIMESTAMPS 00:00:00 Intro 00:00:20 Hormozi's cave 00:05:35 Discovery process 00:12:32 Fix problems using MECE 00:13:43 Marketing “$100M Leads” 00:20:55 Writing for YouTube vs Books 00:27:13 The pain is the pitch 00:31:37 Break down the world into frameworks 00:34:09 10x more effort = 1000x results 00:38:24 Understanding the table of contents 00:49:27 The only app I use to read articles [Readwise Reader] 00:50:53 How to think about your audience 00:54:22 The #1 creator mistake 00:57:58 The business of Hormozi's books 01:02:04 The love for writing as a kid 01:04:34 Hormozi's ideal university writing class ALEX HORMOZI https://www.youtube.com/@AlexHormozi https://www.instagram.com/hormozi/ https://x.com/alexhormozi/ https://acquisition.com FOLLOW ME YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DavidPerellChannel Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-i-write/id1700171470 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2DjMSboniFAeGA8v9NpoPv X: https://x.com/david_perell Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, I share my very favorite clips from world-class experts I interviewed last year. Their combined 171 years of writing experience is tightly packed into this 90-minute video. Enjoy! I also made a website that helps you learn from the best writing of all-time: https://writingexamples.com/ Hey! I'm David Perell and I'm a writer, teacher, and podcaster. I believe writing online is one of the biggest opportunities in the world today. For the first time in human history, everybody can freely share their ideas with a global audience. I seek to help as many people publish their writing online as possible. Follow me Website: https://writeofpassage.com/how-i-write Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-i-write/id1700171470 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2DjMSboniFAeGA8v9NpoPv X: https://x.com/david_perell Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

How do you know the difference between a banger journal entry and the foundation of a memoir? If you've ever asked yourself this question, then this conversation is for you.Tucker is a memoir guru, having sold 5 million copies of his own memoir (“I Hope They Serve Beer in Hell”) and millions more of ghostwritten memoirs (for names like Tiffany Haddish and David Goggins). All of Tucker's expertise can be dwindled down to three words: tell the truth. But it's not as easy as it sounds.In this episode, you'll learn everything it takes to write a bestselling memoir: how to tell a great story, how to infuse your work with humor, how to turn your suffering into art, and how to make sure you're ready to write a memoir in the first place. Most importantly, you'll learn how to tell the unencumbered truth — the right way. Website: https://www.tuckermax.com/ Twitter: @TuckerMax Website: https://writeofpassage.com/how-i-write YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DavidPerellChannel/videos Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-i-write/id1700171470 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2DjMSboniFAeGA8v9NpoPv Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Richard is the Pulitzer Prize-winning author of The Overstory, one of the most praised novels of the decade. His writing absolutely explodes with life. But perhaps Richard's most impressive skill is his character development. And we're not talking about the stodgy character arc you learned in English class. Richard shares 40+ years and 14 novels worth of insight on how to write characters that readers can't get out of their head.  This episode is a deep dive into the psychoanalytical complexities of character: drama and tension, thinking and feeling, motivation and suspense. Plus, we dive into the three different types of character-driven drama: People against People, People against Themselves, and People against the Environment.  In a nutshell, this episode is a novel-writing masterclass that you don't want to miss.  SPEAKER LINKS:  Website: https://www.richardpowers.net/ Books: https://www.richardpowers.net/category/novel/ New Novel “Playground”: https://a.co/d/g9nzmbO WRITE OF PASSAGE:  Want to learn more about the final class for Write of Passage? Click here: https://writeofpassage.com/ PODCAST LINKS:  Website: https://writeofpassage.com/how-i-write YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DavidPerellChannel/videos Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-i-write/id1700171470 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2DjMSboniFAeGA8v9NpoPv Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You know him as the CEO of OpenAI — but did you know that Sam Altman is an avid writer?  As one of today's most successful entrepreneurs, Sam champions the tremendous value of writing: how it clarifies your thinking, expands your ideas, and levels-up your life in every sense, both personally and professionally. Plus, he has a love for the creative. (Have you ever met someone who can recite Percy Bysshe Shelley poems from memory? Well, Sam can.)  In this episode, we discuss how Sam uses ChatGPT in his daily life; how LLMs are changing the future of writing; what it means to be a novelist in the age of technology; and Sam's best-learned writing lessons from Paul Graham. If you want to learn how the king of ChatGPT writes, this episode is for you.  SPEAKER LINKS:  Website: https://openai.com/ Blog: https://blog.samaltman.com/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/sama WRITE OF PASSAGE:  Want to learn more about the final class for Write of Passage? Click here: https://writeofpassage.com/ PODCAST LINKS:  Website: https://writeofpassage.school/how-i-write/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DavidPerellChannel/videos Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-i-write/id1700171470 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2DjMSboniFAeGA8v9NpoPv Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Robert went from being “a drunk, failed screenwriter” to writing seven bestsellers with millions of copies sold. Entrepreneurs, politicians, and hip-hop artists like 50 Cent all love his work. His secret ingredient? Storytelling. In Robert's eyes, story is a form of seduction. So, welcome to 76-minutes of seductive storytelling advice. You'll learn how to write stories that have timeless resonance, swapping cute and clever for crisp and clear. You'll dive deep into style, themes, research, and revision. And you'll hear all the nitty-gritty details that make a story sell.  And his books have flown off the shelves. 48 Laws of Power has sold millions of copies, and is as popular today as it was when it came out 25 years ago.  If you want behind-the-scenes storytelling advice from a seasoned bestselling author, this episode is for you.  SPEAKER LINKS:  Website: https://powerseductionandwar.com/ Twitter: https://x.com/RobertGreene Book: https://www.amazon.com/stores/Robert-Greene/author/B001IGV3IS YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/RobertGreeneOfficial WRITE OF PASSAGE:  Want to learn more about the next class for Write of Passage? Click here: https://writeofpassage.com/ PODCAST LINKS:  Website: https://writeofpassage.com/how-i-write YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DavidPerellChannel/videos Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-i-write/id1700171470 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2DjMSboniFAeGA8v9NpoPv Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to 74-minutes of storytelling strategy that's better than all of your English classes combined. Nick is a journalist who has written for The New York Times and Vanity Fair. He's a screenwriter, an author, a murder mystery enthusiast. In other words, he knows how to push a story through a brick wall. And he's going to show you how you can, too.  This episode is the ultimate storytelling toolkit. Cliffhangers. Tension. Dialogue. Character. Motifs. You'll learn it all.  And here's the thing: if you can tell great stories, then you will succeed in life. Stories make up our entire world — from a politician's speech to the back of a cereal box to a dinner party with friends. Good storytellers always have the upper hand. So, if you want to tell fast-paced and dizzying stories, this episode is for you.  SPEAKER LINKS:  Website: https://www.nickbilton.com/ Books: https://www.amazon.com/stores/Nick-Bilton/author/B003UP0RIM Vanity Fair: https://www.vanityfair.com/contributor/nick-bilton Twitter: https://twitter.com/nickbilton Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nickbilton WRITE OF PASSAGE:  Want to learn more about the next class for Write of Passage? Click here: https://writeofpassage.com/ PODCAST LINKS:  Website: https://writeofpassage.com/how-i-write YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DavidPerellChannel/videos Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-i-write/id1700171470 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2DjMSboniFAeGA8v9NpoPv Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“I'll never forget the first patient whom I ever saw die.” Sheesh, what an opening line, right? Peter has an outstanding resume: he's a medical surgeon, a Stanford grad, and a longevity expert with 25+ years of industry experience — not to mention, a published author who has sold over two million copies of his book, Outlive.  In a nutshell, Peter is a prime example of what can happen when you share your expertise through writing. And he's going to help you get started.  In this episode, you'll learn how Peter wrote his first book — frameworks, strategies, how he packages industry expertise in a way that's digestible for the masses — and how you can, too. If you've been burning to turn your expertise into a bestseller, this episode is for you. SPEAKER LINKS:  Website: https://peterattiamd.com/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@PeterAttiaMD Twitter: https://x.com/PeterAttiaMD Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/peterattiamd Newsletter: https://peterattiamd.com/newsletter Book: https://a.co/d/57euBtR WRITE OF PASSAGE:  Want to learn more about the next class for Write of Passage? Become a better writer in just five weeks. Click here: https://writeofpassage.com/ PODCAST LINKS:  Website: https://writeofpassage.com/how-i-write YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DavidPerellChannel/videos Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-i-write/id1700171470 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2DjMSboniFAeGA8v9NpoPv Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What if writing a newsletter could pay your rent? Well, it can. And today, you're going to learn how. Ben Thompson makes millions of dollars a year with his writing. He's the OG of subscription-based newsletter writers. Maybe that's your dream, too, but you're plagued by questions like: “What should I write about?” “What's my business model?” “How do I make my first dollar online?” We're so glad you asked; because Ben has the answers. In this episode, you'll learn his exact playbook for how to monetize your writing — not just for right now, but also for the future.  Ben's blog, Stratechery, is the OG of subscription-based newsletters and actually inspired the creation of Substack. If you've ever wondered what a day-in-the-life of someone who makes millions of dollars writing looks like, now's your chance.  SPEAKER LINKS:  Website & Newsletter: https://stratechery.com/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/benthompson WRITE OF PASSAGE:  Want to learn more about the next class for Write of Passage? Click here: https://writeofpassage.com/ PODCAST LINKS:  Website: https://writeofpassage.com/how-i-write YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DavidPerellChannel/videos Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-i-write/id1700171470 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2DjMSboniFAeGA8v9NpoPv Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ever thought to yourself, “I would love to write a memoir someday”?  Then you're in the right place. Rob has an exceptional story — from foster care to Yale, from a troubled childhood to a best-selling memoir called Troubled — and in this episode, he demystifies the memoir-writing process just for you.   We cover questions like: Which stories are worthy of sharing? How do you pace the narrative? How do you excavate difficult memories? How do you balance the emotional highs with the lows? Buckle up, and get ready to learn how to write a gripping memoir. SPEAKER LINKS:  Newsletter: https://www.robkhenderson.com/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/robkhenderson Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/robkhenderson/ Book: https://www.amazon.com/Troubled-Memoir-Foster-Family-Social/dp/1982168536 WRITE OF PASSAGE:  Want to learn more about the next class for Write of Passage? Click here: https://writeofpassage.com/ PODCAST LINKS:  Website: https://writeofpassage.com/how-i-write YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DavidPerellChannel/videos Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-i-write/id1700171470 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2DjMSboniFAeGA8v9NpoPv Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Your success as a writer boils down to your style. And today, you're going to learn how to master the two different types of style — minimalism vs. maximalism — from the style-king himself: The Cultural Tutor.  Minimalism is clear, concise, and direct. It distills an idea. Maximalism captures the texture, the nuance, the beauty of life. It creates an environment for your reader to inhabit. Style is a spectrum. And the sweet spot of memorable writing comes from the tension of competing forces — concision and beauty; Simplicity and texture; minimalism and maximalism.  If you want to develop a distinct and unforgettable style, then this episode is for you. WRITE OF PASSAGE:  Website: https://culturaltutor.com/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/culturaltutor WRITING EXAMPLES: Sign up and learn from the best writing of all time: https://www.writingexamples.com WRITE OF PASSAGE:  Want to learn more about the next class for Write of Passage? Click here: https://writeofpassage.com/ PODCAST LINKS:  Website: https://writeofpassage.com/how-i-write YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DavidPerellChannel/videos Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-i-write/id1700171470 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2DjMSboniFAeGA8v9NpoPv Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What do Katy Perry, Charles Dickens, and the Bible all have in common? They're responsible for some of the most famous lines in history. And in this episode, you'll find out why.  Mark, an author and mad scientist of language, reveals the secret sauce to memorable writing: rhetorical devices. Chiasmus. Anaphora. Antithesis. Synecdoche.  Writing today (i.e. texting and Tweeting) is concise and hyper-minimal — which is fine, if you're writing the instruction manual for a new dishwasher. But the most memorable works of writing lean into the beauty of words. It's not about using overly purple prose. It's about using rhetorical formulas to create unforgettable lines, to shape ideas that stick in your reader's brain.  If you want to write something that sticks in your reader's brain — a book, a poem, a speech — then this episode is for you. SPEAKER LINKS:  Twitter: https://x.com/inkyfool Blog: https://blog.inkyfool.com/ Books: https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B005Z05REO WRITE OF PASSAGE:  Want to learn more about the next class Write of Passage? Click here: https://writeofpassage.com/ PODCAST LINKS:  Website: https://writeofpassage.com/how-i-write YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DavidPerellChannel/videos Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-i-write/id1700171470 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2DjMSboniFAeGA8v9NpoPv Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Harry is a master copywriter — and that's not hyperbole. With Marketing Examples, he's taught over 100,000 people how to write copy that rips. And guess what? You're next.  Copywriting is the wrapper of success for every company. It's the difference between Snickers, the bestselling chocolate bar in the world (“You're not you when you're hungry”) and a chocolate bar that looked and tasted just like Snickers, but went out of business in 2006. (Ever had a Fuse bar? Yeah, neither have we.)  Good copywriting burns into your brain, seeps into your guts. And in this episode, you're going to learn how to write it.  Harry and David get down-and-dirty with the most important principles of copywriting. You'll learn “The Three Rules” of good copy. You'll compare ads that worked with ads that didn't. You'll get an inside look into how Harry writes his copy, down to his favorite software and tea of choice.  If you want to grow your marketing skills, this is your Harry-sent solution. Come learn the art of masterful copywriting.  SPEAKER LINKS:  Website: https://marketingexamples.com/ Newsletter: https://marketingexamples.com/newsletter Twitter: https://twitter.com/harrydry Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/marketing_examples/ LinkedIn: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/harrydry WRITE OF PASSAGE:  Want to learn more about the next class for Write of Passage? Click here: https://writeofpassage.com/ PODCAST LINKS:  Website: https://writeofpassage.com/how-i-write YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DavidPerellChannel/videos Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-i-write/id1700171470 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2DjMSboniFAeGA8v9NpoPv Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Scott is a cocktail of crass humor, brutal honesty, and millionaire advice. He spent ten years wanting to write a book, and when he finally did, everything he learned could be summed up into two words: Be fearless.  So buckle up — because today, you're going to learn how to write fearlessly.  In this episode, we break down the nitty-gritty mechanics of fearless writing: how to create intimacy with your reader, how to craft a narrative, how to share bold opinions, how to use humor as a weapon, and most importantly, how to write from conversation. (This is one of our favorite concepts we teach in Write of Passage. Your best ideas don't come from typing; they come from talking.)  Put simply, Scott is the king of strong opinions, loosely held. And that's why his writing resonates. If you want to be bold and fearless in your writing, then this episode is for you. SPEAKER LINKS:  Newsletter: https://www.profgalloway.com/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/profgalloway Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/profgalloway Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/profgalloway YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/TheProfGShow-ScottGalloway Books: https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B001KCK57K WRITE OF PASSAGE:  Want to learn more about the next class Write of Passage? Click here: https://writeofpassage.com/ PODCAST LINKS:  Website: https://writeofpassage.com/how-i-write YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DavidPerellChannel/videos Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-i-write/id1700171470 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2DjMSboniFAeGA8v9NpoPv Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Two words: Storytelling. Masterclass.  Yeah, yeah, we know — “become a better storyteller” is probably the most basic writing advice out there. But this episode is far from basic. It's all about the storytelling advice you actually need that you didn't get in school. Once upon a time, Nat wrote online SEO blogs: simple, generic, and kind of boring. What he really wanted was to write a memoir: something narrative, beautiful, and exciting. But his storytelling skills didn't match his vision. So, for two years, Nat disappeared into a cave to master the art of storytelling. He emerged with Crypto Confidential, a captivating memoir that Grammarly hates and readers love. And in this episode, he reveals the not-so-basic tactics he learned as a self-made storyteller.  Want to write stories that people actually read? This episode is for you. SPEAKER LINKS:  Website: https://www.nateliason.com/ Twitter: https://x.com/nateliason Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nat_eliason TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@nateliason Newsletter: https://substack.com/@nateliason Book: https://a.co/d/7axrA8F WRITE OF PASSAGE:  Want to learn more about the next class Write of Passage? Click here: https://writeofpassage.com/ PODCAST LINKS:  Website: https://writeofpassage.com/how-i-write YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DavidPerellChannel/videos Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-i-write/id1700171470 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2DjMSboniFAeGA8v9NpoPv Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sign Up for "Writing Examples" and Learn From The Best Writing of All Time: https://www.writingexamples.com Ryan Holiday is one of the world's most prolific writers. He's published sixteen books, written a daily email newsletter every day for the past eight years, has 1.7 million YouTube subscribers, and runs his own creative agency. (Reciting that list is difficult enough to remember, let alone accomplishing all of those things). This conversation will get you off your butt as a writer. It's 78-minutes of learning how to generate creative inertia for yourself — because that's where Ryan thrives. He's a no-BS writer.  And by “no BS,” I mean: no coddling or making excuses for himself. He just does the work.  Generating that kind of momentum is exactly what fires me up, and exactly what I teach at Write of Passage. If you're feeling called to write, you should join one of our programs. I'm telling you: Write of Passage will light a fire inside of you. I recently heard a story about Ryan that sums him up in a nutshell. His editor called to congratulate him on hitting the #3 spot on the New York Times Bestseller list. His book had only been out for a week. I don't know about you, but I would be camped out by the phone, biting my nails while I waited for that call.  But Ryan? Ryan was heads-down writing, halfway done with his next book. And today, you'll learn exactly how he generates that level of momentum. SPEAKER LINKS:  Website: https://ryanholiday.net/ Twitter: https://x.com/RyanHoliday Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ryanholiday Newsletter: https://ryanholiday.net/reading-list/ Books: https://ryanholiday.net/books-courses/ WRITE OF PASSAGE:  Want to learn more about the next class at Write of Passage? https://writeofpassage.com/weekly PODCAST LINKS:  Website: https://writeofpassage.com/how-i-write YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DavidPerellChannel/videos Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-i-write/id1700171470 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2DjMSboniFAeGA8v9NpoPv Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jerry Seinfeld taught me more about writing than all my English teachers combined. People forget that comedians aren't just jokesters — they're writers. And with 10 Emmy Awards, 3 Golden Globes, and a TV show that's generated over three billion in revenue, it's safe to say that Jerry Seinfeld is a dang good one.  In this episode, I share the top ten writing lessons I've learned from Jerry Seinfeld over the years. You'll learn five lessons on getting your work done, and five lessons on making your work great. And buckle up. After 50 years of refining his jokes on stage, Jerry deals out spiky writing advice like cards in a casino. If you're ready to become a writer who stands out from the masses, then you're in the right place. Happy listening. WRITING EXAMPLES:  Sign Up for "Writing Examples" and Learn From The Best Writing of All Time: https://www.writingexamples.com/ JERRY SEINFELD LINKS:  Website: https://jerryseinfeld.com/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/jerryseinfeld Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jerryseinfeld Article: https://www.newyorker.com/culture/the-new-yorker-interview/the-scholar-of-comedy PODCAST LINKS:  Website: https://writeofpassage.com/how-i-write YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DavidPerellChannel/videos Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-i-write/id1700171470 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2DjMSboniFAeGA8v9NpoPv Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You may know Ted as a music historian, and the go-to expert on jazz. Or, you may know him as The Honest Broker on Substack. Either way, he's the most erudite guest this show has ever seen. Ted gives a masterclass on the state of our culture at large. What's up with our obsession with minimalism? Why do we value speed over beauty? Do we even realize that we're distracting ourselves into oblivion? And, of course, what does this mean for us as writers? This episode zooms out to look at where we've been, where we are, and where we're going. It's an upheaval of mediocrity, a call-to-arms for the pursuit of excellence. If you've been wanting to reclaim the magic, the beauty, and the awe-struck wonder of the written word, this episode is for you. WRITE OF PASSAGE: Want to learn more about the next class Write of Passage? https://writeofpassage.com/ SPEAKER LINKS: Website: https://www.tedgioia.com/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/tedgioia Newsletter: https://www.honest-broker.com/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTuRY58GauTM6wHA3_PPWRw Books: https://www.amazon.com/stores/Ted-Gioia/author/B001ITVXZS PODCAST LINKS:  Website: https://writeofpassage.com/how-i-write YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DavidPerellChannel/videos Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-i-write/id1700171470 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2DjMSboniFAeGA8v9NpoPv Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Get ready to swap everything you know about business-writing for an unconventional approach that actually works.  Basecamp CEO Jason Fried is one of the world's most successful software entrepreneurs. And he's unique for the way he challenges the tenets of Silicon Valley startups.  He's bold like Bezos, but relaxed like Buffett. He cares less about “rising-and-grinding” and more about an honest 40-hour work week. He never white-knuckles his ideas, but shares them freely with the world. As a result, he's transformed how Internet businesses are being built.  And it all starts with — you guessed it — getting his best ideas on the page.  His founder letters stand out (and they're his favorite thing to write). Whenever he announces a new product, he releases a letter that does three things: builds a devoted fanbase, ramps up excitement, and sheds light on the purpose behind his products. And in this episode, you'll learn exactly how he does it.  You'll learn specific business-writing techniques: from storytelling to structure to word choice. You'll learn how to find your flow, make writing easier, and use writing to start doing things in the world.  SPEAKER LINKS:  Website: https://world.hey.com/jason Twitter: https://x.com/jasonfried Medium: https://medium.com/@jasonfried Books: https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B002MQ13PQ WRITE OF PASSAGE:  Want to learn more about the next class Write of Passage? Click here: https://writeofpassage.com/ PODCAST LINKS:  Website: https://writeofpassage.com/how-i-write YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DavidPerellChannel/videos Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-i-write/id1700171470 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2DjMSboniFAeGA8v9NpoPv Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

From frustrated middle school teacher to Chief Evangelist at Synthesis School. From 46 email subscribers to 165,000. From hating writing to publishing her first book with a major publishing house: The Learning Game.  What made all of this possible for Ana Fabrega?  She unlearned how to write.  In this episode, Ana shares the seven writing principles you should unlearn if you want to fall in love with writing again and reach people with your ideas. Like Ana, your best ideas could have the power to impact hundreds, if not thousands, of people. You just need to share them in a way that resonates.  If you're ready to start making an impact with your ideas, then come learn writing for the modern age.  SPEAKER LINKS:  Website: https://afabrega.com/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/anafabrega11 Book: https://a.co/d/afR9lkc Newsletter: https://afabrega.com/newsletter Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/msfab_learninglab/ WRITE OF PASSAGE:  Want to learn more about the next class Write of Passage? Click here: https://writeofpassage.com/ PODCAST LINKS:  Website: https://writeofpassage.com/how-i-write YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DavidPerellChannel/videos Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-i-write/id1700171470 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2DjMSboniFAeGA8v9NpoPv Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This is business writing like you've never seen it before.  Sam Corcos is the founder of a $300 million company called Levels. He's built a culture of intellectual rigor by hiring excellent writers and giving them time to think on paper. But don't get it twisted — a successful “writing-first work culture” is far more than grammatically correct Slack messages and the occasional memo.  “95% of people would not be happy working in the culture that we've built. And the 5% who would be have been looking for this their entire lives.” – Sam In this episode, we go deep (and I mean, deep) into what makes business writing work. Sam reveals how to use writing to: Create strategic memos Solve specific problems Make better decisions And work twice as fast.  If you're interested in learning how to use writing to scale businesses, this one's for you.  SPEAKER LINKS:  Website: http://corcos.io/ Company: https://www.levelshealth.com/ X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/samcorcos Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/samcorcos WRITE OF PASSAGE:  Want to learn more about the next class Write of Passage? Click here: https://writeofpassage.com/ PODCAST LINKS:  Website: https://writeofpassage.com/how-i-write YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DavidPerellChannel/videos Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-i-write/id1700171470 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2DjMSboniFAeGA8v9NpoPv Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“I'm not writing for you.”  This was Paul's response to a scathing critique that came early in his writing career. Since then, Paul's book, The Pathless Path, has sold over 50,000 copies and has spurred thousands of writers to forge their own path forward — scathing critiques and all.  Writing isn't about building the biggest readership possible. It's about connecting with the readers who care. It's about broadcasting a signal for the kinds of people you want to attract. And in this episode, you'll learn how to find these people.  Paul shares his story from corporate cog to free-spirited wanderer, from blogger to author, from intellectual loner to leader of a thousands-strong community. Flow. Space. Surprise. The joy of finding out. These are just a few phrases Paul uses to describe how he writes.  So, what about you? Who are you writing for? If you're ready to write with a heart on fire and find the people who care, this episode is for you.  SPEAKER LINKS: Website: https://pmillerd.com Twitter:  https://x.com/p_millerd Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/pathlesspaul Substack: https://substack.com/@paulmillerd Linkedin:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/paulmillerd/ Book: https://amzn.to/4aBxEUZ  WRITE OF PASSAGE:  Want to learn more about the next class Write of Passage? https://writeofpassage.com PODCAST LINKS:  Website: https://writeofpassage.com/how-i-write YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DavidPerellChannel/videos Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-i-write/id1700171470 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2DjMSboniFAeGA8v9NpoPv Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

There is an intrinsic interestingness inside of you. But, you're probably suppressing it. Welcome to 96-minutes of learning how to use your interestingness to stand out online.  Speaking of standing out, Steph Smith: Hosts a16z, a top five technology podcast Taught herself to code and launched multiple websites that hit #1 on Product Hunt Sold over $220k in her book launch for Doing Content Right Grew The Hustle's Trends product to millions And led HubSpot's Creator Program. (Safe to say that she knows what she's talking about.) And now, Steph reveals everything she's learned about creating unforgettable work on the Internet.  Millions of people mirror what you do — your job, hobbies, routines — but how you do it is another story. Come learn how to follow your compass of interestingness and stand out online. SPEAKER LINKS:  Website: https://stephsmith.io/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/stephsmithio Blog: https://blog.stephsmith.io/ Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stephaniesmith93 WRITE OF PASSAGE:  Want to learn more about the next class Write of Passage? Click here: https://writeofpassage.com PODCAST LINKS:  Website: https://writeofpassage.school/how-i-write/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DavidPerellChannel/videos Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-i-write/id1700171470 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2DjMSboniFAeGA8v9NpoPv Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Writing is thinking, which means it's like lighter fluid for business growth.  Brie has played major roles at writing-rich companies like Stripe, and her expertise on writing-first culture is now used by giants like Amazon and Basecamp.  As she says: “Reality has a surprising amount of detail.” Writing illuminates all the interesting details worth pursuing. And as a result, companies who prioritize writing operate with impressive speed, intention, and rigor.  In this episode, Brie shares years of hard-won wisdom to expose how great writing sets companies apart. She explores the balance of writing vs. taking action; she breaks down the editing process better than a modern-day Maxwell Perkins; and she sheds light on the secret to great writing: your zone of obsession.  If you want to learn how to do the best writing of your life, and grow your company while you're at it, this episode is for you.  SPEAKER LINKS:  Website: https://www.briewolfson.com/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/zebriez Stripe Press: https://press.stripe.com/ WRITE OF PASSAGE:  Want to learn more about the next class Write of Passage? Click here: https://writeofpassage.com/ PODCAST LINKS:  Website: https://writeofpassage.com/how-i-write YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DavidPerellChannel/videos Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-i-write/id1700171470 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2DjMSboniFAeGA8v9NpoPv Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Paul Graham is one of the most successful writers and entrepreneurs in Silicon Valley. Sure, he sold a company to Yahoo and co-founded Y Combinator, which has created hundreds of billions of dollars in value. But more than that, Paul is a renowned essayist and his thoughts on what makes good writing are worth paying attention to. So, how has writing led to Paul Graham's success? I've deconstructed 11 of his best lessons and we're going to go through them one by one. Ultimately, you'll learn the writing secrets behind this mega-successful investor, how he engages and delights his audience, and how you can, too. Also, if you listen until the end, I have an unreleased goodie in here about what Sam Altman learned from Paul Graham. And I'm not going to share that anywhere else. LINKS FOR PAUL GRAHAM:  Website: https://www.paulgraham.com/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/paulg Book: https://www.paulgraham.com/books.html WRITE OF PASSAGE:  Want to learn more about the next class Write of Passage? Click here: https://writeofpassage.com/ PODCAST LINKS:  Website: https://writeofpassage.com/how-i-write YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DavidPerellChannel/videos Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-i-write/id1700171470 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2DjMSboniFAeGA8v9NpoPv Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Neil writes about all the icky, taboo things you're not supposed to say out loud. As the author of ten New York Times Bestselling books, he's built his career on getting celebrities like Rick Rubin, Kevin Hart, and Jenna Jameson to open up in a way that most writers are too afraid to do.  But don't get it twisted — “being vulnerable” doesn't mean “word-vomit your deepest, darkest secrets to the world.” It means sharing who you truly are in a way that's interesting to other people.  In this episode, Neil reveals how to be vulnerable in your work, the right way. He breaks down story structures that hook your reader. He reveals how to cultivate your life to support your writing. And he shows you how to say things in public that most people would be too scared to share with their closest friends.  If you're scared of sharing your work in public, this episode is for you. Come learn how to synthesize your vulnerability in a way that resonates with other people. SPEAKER LINKS:  Website: https://www.neilstrauss.com/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/neilstrauss Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/neil_strauss Books: https://www.amazon.com/Neil-Strauss/e/B001H6NT1I WRITE OF PASSAGE:  Want to learn more about the next class Write of Passage? Click here: https://writeofpassage.com/enroll PODCAST LINKS:  Website: https://writeofpassage.school/how-i-write/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DavidPerellChannel/videos Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-i-write/id1700171470 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2DjMSboniFAeGA8v9NpoPv Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Every year, 25 million people download Shaan's podcast. Sure, he's a brilliant entrepreneur, investor, and writer, but there's one skill in particular that keeps Shaan's audience coming back for more: storytelling.  And not the kind of storytelling that feels like an IQ contest. (I know you know what I mean.) Shaan tells stories that burst with aliveness, that make readers laugh out loud with joy or fall silent with understanding. And as a result, he's built more than just a following; he's built a fandom.  In this episode, Shaan reveals every framework he knows for telling stories so well they make your reader go, “Wait, how did they do that?”. And I mean, every framework. You won't find this in the ole' self-help aisle. Plus, he shows you exactly how to do it. We deconstruct everything from popular movies to business origin stories to viral Twitter threads.  Stories are the #1 way to grab readers' attention, get them to like you, and ultimately, turn them into fans. And this episode is a masterclass on how to do it. WRITE OF PASSAGE:  Website & Newsletter: https://www.shaanpuri.com/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/ShaanVP Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shaanpuri WRITE OF PASSAGE:  Want to learn more about the next class Write of Passage? Click here: https://writeofpassage.com/ PODCAST LINKS:  Website: https://writeofpassage.school/how-i-write/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DavidPerellChannel/videos Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-i-write/id1700171470 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2DjMSboniFAeGA8v9NpoPv Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Perhaps the best-kept secret of any writer is the ability to find inspiration in unconventional places. And that's Michael Mauboussin in a nutshell. Investing, business, reading, writing, luck, skill — name a topic he's passionate about, and he's found a way to make money from it in his writing.  How? By subverting “The Curse of Knowledge.”  With his decades-long career on Wall Street, you'd think that reading Michael's work would be like trying to learn Latin on the fly. But the opposite is true.  “I put my arm around the reader, and we gaze off into the world and say, “Let's talk about what we see. Let's make this concrete and interesting.”  No stuffy professionalism. No robotic jargon. While many of us writers see the ignorance of a reader as a handicap, Michael sees it as an opportunity. And as a result, he's become a billboard for how to build a career around who you truly are and what you're actually interested in.  In this episode, you'll learn how to do the same. Come learn tactical writing and life instruction from one of Wall Street's best and brightest.  SPEAKER LINKS:  Website: https://www.michaelmauboussin.com/ Books: https://www.michaelmauboussin.com/books Twitter: https://twitter.com/mjmauboussin WRITE OF PASSAGE:  Want to learn more about the next class Write of Passage? Click here: https://take.writeofpassage.school/writing-sprints PODCAST LINKS:  Website: https://writeofpassage.school/how-i-write/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DavidPerellChannel/videos Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-i-write/id1700171470 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2DjMSboniFAeGA8v9NpoPv Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Packy McCormick is proof that writing online can attract real-world opportunities you never dreamed of. He went from 20 Substack subscribers to a $40 million venture fund — and he's still growing. In this episode, we dive into the three main “how's” of Packy's growth. First, he has a distinct, unforgettable style. His business-meets-memes newsletter, Not Boring, has amassed 220,000+ subscribers because his “funny finance guy” flair gives him an edge. Not to mention, it all started when he took the first-ever cohort of Write of Passage. (I may be biased, but seriously, that's when it started.) Next, Packy shares his domain expertise. He sees writing and investing as the perfect one-two punch. His goal? Share what he knows, and make a behind-the-scenes world accessible to the average audience. And finally, Packy adds value to his readers. Relentlessly. Not by telling them what to think, but by trying to change the way they think. In a world filled with Beta content — cheap entertainment that disappears in 24 hours — Packy creates Alpha content — quality work that has long-term relevance. Style. Expertise. Value. This is just a sneak-peek into our conversation. If you want to find your distinctiveness in a modern digital world, this episode is for you. SPEAKER LINKS: Website: https://www.packym.com/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/packyM Newsletter: https://www.notboring.co/ WRITE OF PASSAGE: Want to learn more about the next class Write of Passage? https://writeofpassage.com/ PODCAST LINKS: Website: https://writeofpassage.school/how-i-write/ Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-i-write/id1700171470 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2DjMSboniFAeGA8v9NpoPv YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DavidPerellChannel/videos Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Want to build influence with great ideas and simple writing? Look no further than Howard Marks.  Most smart people use big words and plastic jargon to reinforce the barrier between themselves and “the common folk.” Howard, on the other hand, breaks down this barrier, and that's why his ideas are so influential (and why he's Warren Buffett's favorite author).  Ironically enough, simple writing is the hardest to master. Einstein once said that there are four types of intelligence: “bright, brilliant, genius, and simple.” In this episode, you'll hear how Howard turns decades of investment expertise into clear, simple language.  You'll learn:  Why high-quality work is more important than ever How discovering your unique point of view is crucial if you want your ideas to make an impact Howard's four tenets for high-quality writing: clarity, humor, interesting topics, and challenging your reader.  Ultimately, you'll learn how this billionaire investor shares his ideas in a way that engages and delights his audience, and how you can, too. SPEAKER LINKS:  Website: https://www.oaktreecapital.com/about/leadership/bio/howard-marks Twitter: https://twitter.com/howardmarksbook Books: https://www.amazon.com/Howard-Marks/e/B004LE5B00 WRITE OF PASSAGE:  Want to learn more about the next class Write of Passage? Click here: https://take.writeofpassage.school/writing-sprints PODCAST LINKS:  Website: https://writeofpassage.school/how-i-write/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DavidPerellChannel/videos Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-i-write/id1700171470 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2DjMSboniFAeGA8v9NpoPv Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Amor Towles is our modern day F. Scott Fitzgerald. Sure, he's a critically acclaimed, award-winning novelist (ever heard of “A Gentleman in Moscow”?) but not because he's cracked the publishing algorithm. Rather than scheming how many books he can sell or how many critics he can impress, his #1 goal is to fulfill his covenant with his reader. “They've invested in my art, and I owe it to them.” Towles' work oozes sensory detail and psychological richness. While most writers would describe writing as “creative” or “free-spirited,” he describes it as “accurate” and “careful.” Every sentence he writes serves a larger truth. In this episode, Towles gives one of the most detailed breakdowns of his writing process that we've had so far on How I Write.  You'll learn the step-by-step process for how Towles drafts each novel; specifically, how outlining your work can free up your creative, poetic side. You'll learn how to write descriptively — without bogging down your reader in indulgent details. You'll learn how to master craft through repetition; how to approach your first draft versus your second; how to influence your writing with reading; and how to create art that serves a broader purpose.  Ultimately, you'll learn how to tell exceptional stories from one of today's most exceptional storytellers. SPEAKER LINKS:  Website: https://www.amortowles.com/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/amortowles Books: https://www.amazon.com/stores/Amor-Towles/author/B004MW8MG6 WRITE OF PASSAGE:  Want to learn more about the next class Write of Passage? Click here: https://take.writeofpassage.school/writing-sprints PODCAST LINKS:  Website: https://writeofpassage.school/how-i-write/ Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-i-write/id1700171470 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2DjMSboniFAeGA8v9NpoPv YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DavidPerellChannel/videos ABOUT THE HOST:  I'm David Perell and I'm a writer, teacher, and podcaster. I believe writing online is one of the biggest opportunities in the world today. For the first time in human history, everybody can freely share their ideas with a global audience. I seek to help as many people publish their writing online as possible. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Steven Johnson has studied LLM technology for over 35 years. His consensus? Large Language models and human creativity aren't at odds. They're at their best when they work in harmony. Johnson has written thirteen books, many of which explore how tools and technologies expand what humans are capable of and transform societies. He created NotebookLM to help writers use AI to supplement their creative process — not to replace their thinking, but to amplify it.  In this episode, you'll learn how to capture ideas without friction, how to seamlessly structure your work, how to leverage the element of surprise, and how to turn sheer information into unique insight — all while using AI, of course.  Ultimately, you'll soak up Johnson's 35 years of expertise and come away with actionable steps to make your writing process faster and your insights more surprising. SPEAKER LINKS:  Website: https://stevenberlinjohnson.com/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/stevenbjohnson Book: https://www.amazon.com/Steven-Johnson/e/B000APC0M6 WRITE OF PASSAGE:  Want to learn more about the next class Write of Passage? Click here: https://take.writeofpassage.school/writing-sprints PODCAST LINKS:  Website: https://writeofpassage.school/how-i-write/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DavidPerellChannel/videos Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-i-write/id1700171470 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2DjMSboniFAeGA8v9NpoPv Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Chris Dixon is the perfect example of how learning in public can catapult you to success. Come learn how he went from writer to owner, and how you can, too. SPEAKER LINKS: Website: https://cdixon.org/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/cdixon Blog: https://cdixon.substack.com/subscribe Book: https://www.amazon.com/Read-Write-Own-Building-Internet/dp/0593731387 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCoAeFr1JnlHwQ1ex7WlWi-g WRITE OF PASSAGE: Want to learn more about the next class Write of Passage? https://take.writeofpassage.school/writing-sprints PODCAST LINKS: Website: https://writeofpassage.school/how-i-write/ Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-i-write/id1700171470 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2DjMSboniFAeGA8v9NpoPv YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DavidPerellChannel/videos Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It's the start of 2024 and to celebrate I thought I'd run through some of the best lessons I've picked up over the last 12 months. This past year has had over 20 episodes produced so there was a lot to choose from but I ended up settling on 8 insights from some of my favorite conversations both inside and outside of the podcast. Expect to learn how Tim Ferriss sets an extremely high/low quality bar, why Marc Andreessen uses a barbell approach to consume information, Kevin Kelly's reason to be the only (not the best), how Riva Tez paints with words, why The Cultural Tutor won't read anything from the past 50 years, how Tyler Cowen brings joy to his work, my thoughts on artificial intelligence, and much more… WRITE OF PASSAGE: Want to learn more about the next class Write of Passage? https://take.writeofpassage.school/writing-sprints PODCAST LINKS: Website: https://writeofpassage.school/how-i-write/ Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-i-write/id1700171470 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2DjMSboniFAeGA8v9NpoPv YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DavidPerellChannel/videos Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Tiago grew up reading in Barnes and Noble — up to six hours at a time! Now, his bestselling book, Building a Second Brain, is the perfect combination of his favorite genres: self-development, business, and tech. Come learn how Tiago has helped thousands of people unlock their creative potential.  SPEAKER LINKS:  Website: https://fortelabs.com/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TiagoForte Twitter: https://twitter.com/fortelabs Blog: https://fortelabs.com/blog/ Book: https://www.buildingasecondbrain.com/book WRITE OF PASSAGE:  Want to learn more about the next class Write of Passage? Click here: https://take.writeofpassage.school/writing-sprints PODCAST LINKS:  Website: https://writeofpassage.school/how-i-write/ Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-i-write/id1700171470 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2DjMSboniFAeGA8v9NpoPv YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DavidPerellChannel/videos Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices