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Morgan Housel is a partner at The Collaborative Fund, an investor and an author. Why is spending money well a skill most people never learn? In a world obsessed with saving, why does saying “it's okay to spend” still feel taboo? What can high performers teach us about investing not just money, but time, energy, and attention wisely? Expect to learn why it's important to talk about how to spend money well when learning about personal finance, why good financial ideas struggle to spread while bad ones travel effortlessly, what Morgan's definition of success is, how much modern dissatisfaction comes from comparing ourselves to people we don't actually want to be like, the real relationship between money and happiness with nuance, why it's so hard to find people who have managed to be wealthy, successful, happy and peaceful and much more… Sponsors: See discounts for all the products I use and recommend: ⁠https://chriswillx.com/deals⁠ Get a Free Sample Pack of LMNT's most popular flavours with your first purchase at https://drinklmnt.com/modernwisdom Get up to $350 off the Pod 5 at https://eightsleep.com/modernwisdom Get 35% off your first subscription on the best supplements from Momentous at https://livemomentous.com/modernwisdom New pricing since recording: Function is now just $365, plus get $25 off at https://functionhealth.com/modernwisdom Extra Stuff: Get my free reading list of 100 books to read before you die: ⁠https://chriswillx.com/books⁠ Try my productivity energy drink Neutonic: ⁠https://neutonic.com/modernwisdom⁠ Episodes You Might Enjoy: #577 - David Goggins - This Is How To Master Your Life: ⁠https://tinyurl.com/43hv6y59⁠ #712 - Dr Jordan Peterson - How To Destroy Your Negative Beliefs: ⁠https://tinyurl.com/2rtz7avf⁠ #700 - Dr Andrew Huberman - The Secret Tools To Hack Your Brain: ⁠https://tinyurl.com/3ccn5vkp⁠ - Get In Touch: Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/chriswillx⁠ Twitter: ⁠https://www.twitter.com/chriswillx⁠ YouTube: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/modernwisdompodcast⁠ Email: ⁠https://chriswillx.com/contact⁠ - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

¿La Bolsa de Valores de Caracas (BVC) subió un 170% en apenas cinco días?. Sí, ocurrió, pero antes de que salgas a "romper el cochinito" para invertir todos tus ahorros, es vital entender qué hay detrás de estos números.En este episodio de Tertulia y Dinero, Jose Miguel Farías y Jesús León desglosan la reciente efervescencia del mercado bursátil venezolano. ¿Estamos ante un cambio estructural o es simplemente el efecto de más bolívares persiguiendo los mismos activos de siempre?.Lo que aprenderás en este capítulo: El factor inflación: Cómo la distorsión monetaria convierte a la bolsa en un mecanismo de refugio más que de inversión a largo plazo. Shock político y narrativas: ¿Por qué un cambio de guion político dispara los precios en un mercado con tan poca profundidad?. La verdad sobre el ETF de Venezuela: Jose Miguel analiza el prospecto introducido ante la SEC y aclara si realmente este fondo comprará acciones en Caracas (Spoiler: no es lo que parece). Checklist para el inversionista: 5 preguntas que debes hacerte antes de comprar cualquier acción, en Venezuela o en el mundo. "Invertir en bolsa no es comprar un ticker, es comprar una empresa. Y en Venezuela, eso implica leer estados financieros y entender riesgos regulatorios".Libro recomendado: The Art of Spending Money (El arte de gastar dinero) de Morgan Housel, disponible con nuestros amigos de Mentes Curiosas.Análisis del ETF: El hilo de X (Twitter) de Jose Miguel Farías sobre el prospecto de la SEC.Ver hilo en X✉️ Gracias a nuestros aliados: Banplus: Web | Instagram Kontigo: Web | Instagram Mentes Curiosas: Web | InstagramNuestras redes:Instagram | TikTokSigue a los hosts: José Miguel Farías: IG | LI | X Asdrúbal Oliveros: IG | LI | X Jesus Leonett: IG | LI | X

Welcome back to Impact Theory with Tom Bilyeu. In this episode, Tom Bilyeu sits down for an intense, thought-provoking conversation with acclaimed author morgan Housel to dig into some of the most pressing economic challenges of our time. Together, they unravel the complexities around America's shifting role as the world's reserve currency, mounting national debt, the rise of China, and the real dangers lurking behind our housing and student loan crises. You'll hear Tom Bilyeu challenge conventional narratives about economic cycles, inflation, and what history teaches us about the rise and fall of empires. morgan Housel offers invaluable perspective—tempering alarmist fears with humility, historical insight, and a focus on what individuals can actually control in the face of profound uncertainty. This episode is for anyone trying to make sense of the headlines, curious about what “trouble” really looks like for the U.S. economy, and seeking wisdom on how to navigate the rocky waters ahead. From global trade wars and demographic shifts to personal finance strategies for turbulent times, Tom Bilyeu and morgan Housel leave no stone unturned. Get ready for grounded optimism, refreshing honesty, and practical takeaways you won't want to miss! What's up, everybody? It's Tom Bilyeu here: If you want my help... STARTING a business: join me here at ZERO TO FOUNDER:  https://tombilyeu.com/zero-to-founder?utm_campaign=Podcast%20Offer&utm_source=podca[%E2%80%A6]d%20end%20of%20show&utm_content=podcast%20ad%20end%20of%20show SCALING a business: see if you qualify here.:  https://tombilyeu.com/call Get my battle-tested strategies and insights delivered weekly to your inbox: sign up here.: https://tombilyeu.com/ ********************************************************************** If you're serious about leveling up your life, I urge you to check out my new podcast, Tom Bilyeu's Mindset Playbook —a goldmine of my most impactful episodes on mindset, business, and health. Trust me, your future self will thank you. ********************************************************************** FOLLOW TOM: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tombilyeu/ Tik Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@tombilyeu?lang=en Twitter: https://twitter.com/tombilyeu YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TomBilyeu Quince: Free shipping and 365-day returns at https://quince.com/impactpodHomeServe: Help protect your home systems – and your wallet – with HomeServe against covered repairs. Plans start at just $4.99 a month at https://homeserve.comShopify: Sign up for your one-dollar-per-month trial period at https://shopify.com/impact Incogni: Take your personal data back with Incogni! Use code IMPACT at the link below and get 60% off an annual plan: https://incogni.com/impact Sintra AI: 72% off with code IMPACT at https://sintra.ai/impact Huel: High-Protein Starter Kit 20% off for new customers at https://huel.com/impact code impact Bevel Health: Visit https://bevel.health/impact and use code IMPACT to get your first month free. Ketone IQ: Visit https://ketone.com/IMPACT for 30% OFF your subscription order Cape: 33% off your first 6 months with code IMPACT at https://cape.co/impact Plaud: Get 10% off with code TOM10 at https://plaud.ai/tom Pique: 20% off at https://piquelife.com/impact SOCIALSFollow morgan Housel:Website: https://www.morganhousel.com/Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/morganhouselLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/morganhouselInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/morganhousel/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this life update, Chalene and Bret share what turned into a full blown catastrophe after a major flood destroyed their California beach house. They walk through the reality of dealing with insurance delays, massive financial decisions, and why coastal properties come with a level of risk most homeowners never see coming. Along the way, the conversation shifts into a surprisingly grounding discussion about money mindset, stress, and how quickly plans and priorities can change. It is honest, sometimes darkly funny, and full of hard earned perspective on loss, gratitude, and not letting stuff define your future. Chalene and Bret also the road trip chaos that took place on their way to visit Chalene's parents.   

Welcome to Impact Theory with Tom Bilyeu. In today's episode, Tom sits down with Morgan Housel, bestselling author and expert on the psychology of money, for a candid and eye-opening discussion about the housing crisis and the far-reaching consequences it has on our society. Together, they dig deep into how housing affordability is at the heart of issues like declining marriage rates, mental health struggles, fertility crises, and even substance abuse. You'll hear Morgan lay out why buying a home is more than a financial milestone—it's a fundamental step into adulthood, community, and stability. Tom and Morgan also explore the cyclical nature of inequality throughout history, the role of inflation and debt in causing economic divides, and why current solutions to the housing shortage miss the mark. They challenge popular policies and talk about the real reasons why affordable homes are scarce—touching on everything from NIMBYism to regulatory capture—and what might need to change if we want to reverse trends that threaten generational prosperity. Whether you're worried about the future of the economy, curious about how political cycles influence policy, or just want practical advice for navigating today's financial uncertainty, this episode offers both sobering insights and a dose of hope. If you're ready for a thorough, nuanced conversation that connects headlines to everyday life, keep listening—this one's for you. What's up, everybody? It's Tom Bilyeu here: If you want my help... STARTING a business: join me here at ZERO TO FOUNDER:  https://tombilyeu.com/zero-to-founder?utm_campaign=Podcast%20Offer&utm_source=podca[%E2%80%A6]d%20end%20of%20show&utm_content=podcast%20ad%20end%20of%20show SCALING a business: see if you qualify here.:  https://tombilyeu.com/call Get my battle-tested strategies and insights delivered weekly to your inbox: sign up here.: https://tombilyeu.com/ ********************************************************************** If you're serious about leveling up your life, I urge you to check out my new podcast, Tom Bilyeu's Mindset Playbook —a goldmine of my most impactful episodes on mindset, business, and health. Trust me, your future self will thank you. ********************************************************************** FOLLOW TOM: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tombilyeu/ Tik Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@tombilyeu?lang=en Twitter: https://twitter.com/tombilyeu YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TomBilyeu Quince: Free shipping and 365-day returns at https://quince.com/impactpodHomeServe: Help protect your home systems – and your wallet – with HomeServe against covered repairs. Plans start at just $4.99 a month at https://homeserve.comShopify: Sign up for your one-dollar-per-month trial period at https://shopify.com/impact Incogni: Take your personal data back with Incogni! Use code IMPACT at the link below and get 60% off an annual plan: https://incogni.com/impact Sintra AI: 72% off with code IMPACT at https://sintra.ai/impact Huel: High-Protein Starter Kit 20% off for new customers at https://huel.com/impact code impact Bevel Health: Visit https://bevel.health/impact and use code IMPACT to get your first month free. Ketone IQ: Visit https://ketone.com/IMPACT for 30% OFF your subscription order Cape: 33% off your first 6 months with code IMPACT at https://cape.co/impact Plaud: Get 10% off with code TOM10 at https://plaud.ai/tom Pique: 20% off at https://piquelife.com/impact Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Gregg Lunceford, Managing Director at Mesirow Wealth Management and a retirement transition researcher, joins Lesley Logan to explore why retirement is about more than financial planning. He introduces the concept of the “third age”—a longer, undefined stage of life where identity, purpose, and structure matter just as much as money. Together, they discuss why work identity is so hard to release and how shaping your retirement identity early can make your next chapter feel intentional instead of uncertain. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:Why modern retirees now face a long “third age” requiring purpose beyond leisure.How work identity provides recognition, social connection, and daily structure.The difference between living as your “ought self” versus your “ideal self.”Why failing to plan identity often leads retirees to burn through money.Why creating a shared retirement vision helps guide future decisions together.Episode References/Links:Mesirow Wealth Management - https://www.mesirow.comGregg Lunceford on LinkedIn - https://beitpod.com/greggluncefordExit From Work by Gregg Lunceford - https://a.co/d/c84euxXThe Psychology of Money by Morgan Housel - https://a.co/d/feJq9lhGuest Bio:Gregg Lunceford has 32 years of experience in financial services. He is a Managing Director, Wealth Advisor in Mesirow Wealth Management and Vice Chair of the Mesirow DEI Council. He creates comprehensive financial planning strategies for individuals, families, organizations, athletes and business owners. He is the Investment Committee Chair for the American Heart Association, on the Board of Directors for the Juvenile Protective Association, an Advisory Board Member for the Nathan Manilow Sculpture Park at Governors State University and is an Advisory Board Member for the Quinlan School of Business at Loyola University. Gregg is also a frequent speaker on WGN radio's “Your Money Matters.” Gregg earned a B.A. from Loyola University, an MBA from Washington University, and a PhD from Case Western Reserve University where he conducted research on retirement. 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And once you start to figure out, I need to form a retirement identity and understand my ideal self. You start to self motivate and become excited about it.Lesley Logan 0:27  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 1:10  Okay, Be It babe. This conversation is really cool. It's really, really cool. It might you I'm going to introduce it in just a second, I'm going to introduce the guest, and it might be somebody like when you think about this, you yes, you do. Yes, you do. And I actually am really excited once I hit in on this, because Brad and I have already talked about this topic with each other, but I we've actually not dove into what retirement looks like, right? Like? What does it look like? Who are we, you know. And I think especially if you're an elder like me, you're like, I'm still trying to figure that out for my work stuff, but, but there's, there's an even bigger reason for us to think about it now, and Gregg Lunceford is going to explain that to us, and it's going to give you so much inspiration and a joy and excitement and possibility. And I can't think of a better be it till you see it, thing that be working on than what Greg is going to offer us up today. So here he is. Lesley Logan 2:04  All right, Be It babe, I'm really excited, because when I met this guest, I was like, hold on, this is very different. This is a whole different attitude to have about. Fine, we're going to talk money. And I know some of you want to, like, put your head in the sand and ostrich out, but we're gonna talk retirement. We're gonna talk about some really cool things, also just thought processes to have. We have an amazing guest, the first person ever make me think of this in a different way. Gregg Lunceford from Mesirow, is here to rock our world today. So Greg, tell everyone who you are and what you do.Gregg Lunceford 2:34  Hello, Lesley, thank you so much for the opportunity to be on your show. My name is Gregg Lunceford. I am a career professional in financial services. I work for a firm called Mesirow Financial in Chicago. We have locations across the country and some overseas. I am a wealth advisor. In addition to that, I am also an academic researcher, and my field of study is retirement transition. And so what I work with clients on is getting them, not only do you understand the financial part of retirement, but also the social, emotional components of making the transition and how it is unique to them, because the 21st Century retiree retirement transition is much different and way more dynamic than most people think, having watched others do it in the 20th century.Lesley Logan 3:21  This is so cool, because you're not, like, our, you know, our grandfather or father is like, like, financial planner, you are actually thinking, like, deep about the person. And that I find, I don't think I've known anyone who does that. Like, usually it's like, here are the numbers, here's your sheet. Let's put this in. How much money do you want to have and like, that's it, but you you've brought more personality to it and also more emotions to it. How did you get started in that? Gregg Lunceford 3:47  So I'll give you a little bit of a backstory. So as I mentioned, I've been in financial services for 33 years, and when the real estate bust occurred in 2008 I was working for another organization, and we were having people come in and very successful people, and they were set for life. They were being offered an exit package from their from their employer. They were leaving a lot of C suite roles, or maybe a little role below the C suite. And we were having meetings with them to prepare for retirement, and we would go through all the financial numbers and something still wasn't right. And what I was noticing was they were hesitant to make the retirement decision, even though the company was saying, look, we, giving you this excellent opportunity to exit early create cost savings for us. It'll create great financial opportunity for you, especially because we were in this period of time like unemployment was going above 11%, and so here's the opportunity to take this nest egg and be good, which was counter to what we were taught in our industry when I came in the industry that, you know exiting out was an economic choice, that once you hit a certain number, then you would go look for activit ies of leisure, because work can be depressing and daunting and stressful and all those kinds of things. And even when I was watching, you know, commercial ads from people in the industry and competitors, you know, you'll see something that goes, and I won't call the company, but they had a very successful campaign that said what's your retirement number? Yes. And this number will follow you down the street. Is this? You know, you walk from the door, do you remember that? And you look at your balance, it's like, if today's the day you just tell your boss, I can't stand you, and it's over with, right? And so this was very counter to what I was experiencing. And so I started to talk to some of the senior level people in my organization. I said, there's something going on here and and they said, well, it's probably because they're talking to us, and they're also shopping with other people to see who they which which company they want to work with. So go offer them a great discount, because it's probably all things equal, and it's just they're being sensitive about numbers, once again, making this an economic choice, so we would do that. And what I recognize is the sales cycle got even longer. And so I would go back to them. But I said, have you been looking at the trends for our sales cycle? And you would think that these would be quick, easy, easy sales, you know, because people supposed to be running out of the door, and they took longer. And so I said, there's something we don't understand about someone who is at this stage, and the feedback I got was, if it's something social emotional, there's nothing we can do about it. You know, if someone's afraid about running out of money, you can create an annuity product to take care of them for life. Somebody's worried about interest rates going up, you can create a product that deals with interest rate sensitivity, but nothing can deal with how a person feels. And I didn't accept that as an answer. I thought that was wrong, because the way I view it is, clients hire us, and they trust us, and we can do a better job the more we understand the client beyond just their finances, right? And I felt like there was a big problem here. So I basically said, you know, I want to go back to school and study this. And I negotiated for time to be in class, and I got it. And so I went to Case Western Reserve University. I got into a PhD program there, and I did four years of PhD study and lots of studies trying to figure out what are the social, emotional factors, as well as the financial factors that a person considers when making the retirement decision. And there were just tons of things that I learned in that process that I used to help my clients. Were happy to talk to you about that journey.Lesley Logan 7:37  Yeah, I'm excited to get in with that, because it's really funny as you talk about this, I like, my my family, right? My mom is two years from retirement, and she's got two homes, you know, in California that it, honestly, I was trying to get her to sell few years back because it would have been a great idea. And like, get a condo, be set for life. And we're like, showing her the numbers. We're like, look at this. This is a you, you can set yourself up to just be chill, and she is like, not listening, and I think it's because of the emotional attachment to these properties versus, like, the numbers. And so I can I get that right? Like, I get my my in laws could have retired years ago. I don't think that they know what to do if they don't have work things. And I don't even know that they love their work. I think they like what the what the work represents that they do during their day. So I do want to dive into this, because in being it till you see it like I'm hoping that every listener here gets to live to the age that they desire, like and we all are, as you mentioned, like that, the time that we're in people are living a much longer time, like retired at 65 and dying at 90. It's a long time to not have a J-O-B, right? So it would be really cool to chat with you, because like being it till we see it means including what we want to be. How do we want to be when we're older and not doing the thing we're doing? How do we want to be in retirement? So let's dive into that a little bit.Gregg Lunceford 9:06  Sure, so a couple things I want to cover off on. It was like one, how did we get here? And I think you've already touched on that. The fact is, we're living longer. And so if you are looking at a retirement maybe 50 years ago, when people really started to expire in their late 60s and their 70s. What occurred was you got to 65 and the system told you 65 is the number. Why does this arbitrary number was picked one day when they were trying to figure out Social Security, they said it was 65 is the number, right? And so you come out at that period of time, and you only have just a few healthy years in front of you, or at least you anticipate you only have a few healthy years. So what came out was this concept of a bucket list. So I am going to use these healthy years to travel, play all the golf I can, and have all this leisure that I can before I am too physically unable to do this or mentally unable to do this. And so couple things were wrong there, as it relates to our retirement 21st century. One, we're living longer, so you're going to be physically and mentally able to do something for a long period of time. So if you don't sort of set goals for yourself and see what you can be in the futurem you're going to get bored really, really quickly, and you're going to start to decline very quickly, simply because you're absent of certain things, purpose and drive and and goals and accomplishment. You know, it's more than just a couple rounds of golf that are going to make you happy. And so what I think people don't understand is we are now living in a period of time where it used to be you went from your youth to middle age and to old age. And so this transition from middle age to old age was about that 60 mark, right? And so people just basically said, I have no more control. The system is going to do what it does to me. I'm going to be booted out of my job. I'm going to be sent off to do leisure. I guess that means I play with my grandchildren or volunteer, and I'll just follow suit. And what happened is a lot of people found themselves doing things that weren't rewarding to them. Now we're in a new era, because we live longer. And what is present now is what is called, in academic terms, the Third Age. So you now go from early age to middle age to this Third Age, which is this undefined period, and today's retirees are the first people to go on this, and then you go on the old age, and the Third Age is this 20 year life bonus, where you get to define who and what you want to be. And think about it, you're wiser than you ever been. For most people, you have more financial resources than you ever had. You don't have a commitment to other people, meaning you've raised your children so you don't have to worry about them. Hopefully you're in a position where you don't have to care for aging loved ones, right? So this is a period of time where you can do anything and everything you always wanted to do. And people go, well, what didn't I have the opportunity to do whatever I wanted to do? Not quite, because remember when we were growing up, and those before us were growing up, we were kind of encouraged to do things that were socially acceptable. Rght? Lesley Logan 11:02  I agree. Gregg Lunceford 9:07  It wasn't until recent decades where someone says, I'm going to start a computer company out of my garage. I'm going to drop out of college and do something that's undefined and pioneer so the current generations, entering into into retirement, have never developed this proactive protein behavior the way maybe millennials and Generation Z has.Lesley Logan 12:54  I completely agree. Because, like, I, I mean, I feel very lucky that even though I was raised very much by, like, almost a Boomer and and a hippie like, I do have a career where I am doing whatever I want. I'm an elder millennial, so I have that, but I have friends who are just a few years older than me, and I don't think that they have a they don't have hobbies. If they have a hobby, it's going to the gym. You know what I mean? Like, it's like they don't really have things so outside of their work, it's like, what do you do for fun? Are you kidding? Like there's no and so I feel like what you're getting at is, like, no one has actually spent time thinking like, but what do I actually want? How can I dream about that, right? How can I make that so exciting that that I want to take a retirement package or that I'm excited to I have this I'm not just like, oh, let me go play golf three times a week. Like, what else? I have no purpose. I think it's really fascinating that that there is a good chunk of, like, I would say, probably over 45 who don't really, they're exploring it, but don't know. And how do you figure that out?Gregg Lunceford 13:59  So let me ask you a question. Lesley, what is your earliest memory? Or how about how old do you think you were when someone first asked you what you wanted to be when you grow up?Lesley Logan 14:09  I remember being in elementary school, and I'm sure it was asked of me earlier, because people have told me that I said something different earlier. But I remember in fourth grade, I had to, like, write a poem about who I was and what like, what did it feel like, and what did it sound like, and what did it look like. And I said, a judge, you guys, that should shock everyone.Gregg Lunceford 14:36  My point is so since age 10, someone has been helping you develop your work identity. So people were asking you at home or in your neighborhood or a church or wherever you socialize, what you're going to be then you're going to go to a middle school and you're at the high school and they're going to assign a counselor, going to start telling you to think about college or trade school or whatever it is. Is then you got to get into career. And then whatever career you get in, maybe you're assigned a mentor that's helping you understand or think about how to advance in that career. And then you get to this point where maybe you're like late 40s or 50s. And does anybody help you figure out what your identity will be after work. Lesley Logan 15:22  No, as you're saying this. Gregg Lunceford 15:24  You're on your own. You're on your own. And the only thing that was different here is when they put you into that position where you were felt forced into retirement, right? And then there was also a safety net there in the form of a pension that doesn't exist the way it once did, and there were other government safety nets that may not exist the way they once did before, when they put you there, you just said, okay, I'll accept it, because I'm only going to be around five years anyway. So let me work on this bucket list, but you never really thought about and I think people don't really dig into thinking about what the value of work is, beyond the financial resources it provides. So they get to the tail end of their career, and some people may not even think about it anyway, either. So career, because you've spent all this time having these conversations, you start developing this identity because your work, you become what your work is, right? And so, so a lot of people look at the economic resources it provides, but work also provides for us ways to get psychological success. Who doesn't like completing a task and getting recognition, and if you're in a good working environment, right? Everyone says, Let's applaud Lesley because she did this for the team which created this opportunity for the company, which created this value that she should be recognized for, right? So that that's very important, that gives you a reason to get out of bed, that gives you a reason to thrive, and that has some value when you walk out of the work environment. How do you replace that when you go into this third age? The second thing is, work provides socialization. No matter what you think about your work colleagues, if you like them, that's great. They give you somebody that you want to see every day, that you become personal friends with, that you grow with, that you learn to care about. If you hate them, they give you something to laugh about at the end of the day. You know what that idiot Bob did today again, right? That gives that gives you more than you think, right? And so work provides socialization. And then the third thing that work provides that we often overlook is structure in your day. What to do with your time, right? And so for a lot of people, when they don't have somewhere to go, something to do that makes them feel accomplished, and people to be around that they enjoy or either get some form of comical satisfaction from, they're lost when you put them out there on their own. And so what I learned and through my research is this transition for a lot of people, is the first career transition that they've made independently, and it is scary. Lesley Logan 18:08  Yeah. I mean, when you put all that together and I'm just like, going, wow, you know, people aren't it, one of the questions we've got on the pod is like, how do you make friends as a note when you move to a new place? It's like, I mean, for us, we work for ourselves. So, like, we didn't have a place to go to make, you know, so I, my husband and I have a different experience in, like, how to find socialization and structure to our day. And, you know, like we've had to make it happen. But for so many you know, my dad, he quit his he quit his security job. Yes, guys, my 72 year old father was a security guard, but he quit it because he got frustrated. Anyways, he is back working as a crosswalk guard because he's like, I'm bored. I have nothing to do, and I'm like, but dad, we could get a hobby. We could play these game like, all this stuff. And it's because he never, ever, ever in his whole life, did anyone ever encourage developing the skills outside of work.Gregg Lunceford 19:06  Developing a retirement identity, right, developing a retirement identity. And what also makes it hard is, you know, when you are developing a retirement identity, like I said, this is your first shot at personal freedom in life. Okay, when you're growing up, you had to do what your parents told you to do. Then you became an adult, and then you had all these set of responsibilities. And so you were doing what people told you you ought to do. You were really working on your art self. So if you're going to have a family, you ought to find a job that produces enough income, you know. So you didn't really think about ideally what you wanted to do. And what is really amazing to me is I've interviewed some highly successful people that do amazing things, and when I start talking to them about forming their ideal self, the stuff they come up with is so counter to what what and who they are. It is. Is amazing to me. So I get cancer surgery or successful attorneys or engineers to say I want to learn how to write mystery novels, or I want to start a rock band. And so what it points to me, and what it what comes out to me is these are probably things that they wanted to do in the 10, in their teens, in their early 20s, all along, but they couldn't do that because society told them these are not the things a person ought to do. You know, if they want stability in terms of income, if they want respect in their community, if they want you know, the structure that around it allows them to have a family and not have to worry about things. And so now you get to this third age, and I saw all off the table. You're wiser than you've ever been. You have more financial resources than you've ever had. You know, you have more personal freedom. Now you get to, really, for the first time, work on who your ideal self, not your ought self, who you want to be. And if you get it right, you're the only person you have to hold accountable. If you get it wrong, you're the only person you have to hold accountable. And so some people go, well, Greg, what does it have to do with money? I think people who don't take time to find this identity burn through a lot of money trying to find themselves. Right? And so, when I first started this journey, I was trying to find a cohort of individuals that had finished their career, achieved financial success and had 30 years ahead of them. And what were their behaviors, and where you consistently see this is with professional athletes, right? You're out of the game early. Right? You're in your 30s, and you're Tom Brady, you're 40, but that's the long game. But you're really out in your late 20s, your early 30s, you don't have financial concerns, right? And what is the behavior? And sometimes we demonize athletes for dysfunctional behavior after Hey, but all they're showing us is who we are going to be if we don't develop a retirement identity.Lesley Logan 22:09  Yes, Greg, you are 100% correct there. I think most people, think most people will say they don't know how to manage their money and and to your research and what we've been talking about here, it's not about managing money it's about they don't know who they are without their sport because they spent, for those people, they spent, literally, since they were a child in that sport and getting so many accolades, and then all of a sudden, no one cares. No one pays attention to them. For the most part, they're not going to be on TV like, that's it. And so I think it, I think you're spot on. It's not about the money responsibility, although they might need to learn some. It's about who, who are they now that they're not playing.Gregg Lunceford 22:50  Right and so then you go, well, this athlete just went broke because they put all this money in his business. Well, they're trying to get the same accolades in business they got in sports, right? They're trying to replace that identity that made them feel good, made them feel accomplished and some people are very successful at it. Those aren't. But my point is, there has to be a road map to get that yes, and it doesn't always have to be in business. It could be in your civic activities. It could be you learning to act, or you become in sport, but you have to first of all imagine who your ideal self is. And just like you were coached and you read and you trained to build that ought self, hopefully, for some people, a lot of people, the ought self is their ideal self, and they're usually entrepreneurs like you, where you that you know what, I'm not going to go to normal path. I'm going to carve a path for myself, and entrepreneurship gives me that freedom. But for a lot of people, they have to figure out now that I've satisfied all these obligations to other people and other things, who do I ideally want to be and then work at how do I get there? Because if you go in there blindly, you're just the same as that person out of that was in sports or any other industry, you're just trying to find this quick hit to replace all of these accolades or psychological successes you got. And you can blow up a lot of money doing that. So the well being comes from getting all of these components right, not just as we were taught in the 20th century, just making sure you don't run out of money. Lesley Logan 24:26  Gregg, this is insane. So okay, so I love all of this. And it's, it's, it's like, so aligned, because I'm always like, can't be you're not gonna get right the first time. Like, we have to ditch perfection, which, of course, in workplace, it's very honed. Like, check the box. Do it right. Do it right. So you have to talk to the boss about how you did it wrong. Like, get it right. Like, so of course, when you, when you retire, if you haven't been working on these things, you're you're going to be hard on you're going to take your ought self into your retirement. So I guess, like, first of all, I don't think that most financial retirement planners do any of these questions. So when, if, when people come to you talk retirement, are you like pulling are you like asking them what their ideal, what they want their ideal self to be? Do they even know how to find it? What questions do they have to ask themselves? Gregg Lunceford 25:13  Well, we do have. We have. We have a lot of conversation about, you know, not only can you financially afford it, we can put some numbers of software and come up with that answer pretty quickly, right? But we also have a conversation about, what do you think your lifestyle will be, and why do you think this is right for you? And what do you want to accomplish? And you know, some folks will come in and say, hey, I think I want to start a small business, right? And so we might talk about them, and they don't want they don't want work again in the way they want it, but they want something to do that is work on their own terms. So a lot of this is you changing the terms of what you're doing and because when we go, especially if we go to work for a corporation or some that's usually a unilateral contract, right? The person the institution is telling you, I'll give you X amount of dollars if you do this. And you say, but what if I did a little different? No, you don't get a choice in that. This is what you got to do, right? And what we're recognizing is we do have some power in that. We do have some power. I've seen a lot of people be successful in going back to their places of work and negotiating consulting contracts. And they basically said, you know, I don't want to do nine to five, but if you have a special project that you bring on, let's say you bring you on new software, whatever, and this is going to be a nine-month project, or it's going to be something you need few hours, you know, out of the week and but I get the summers off. I'm your person for doing that. And that's how they're able to get from their ought self into their ideal self, because the time that they're not there, they now start to figure out what their personal freedom, what they really like to do. So I think of one person now, he was very successful at this, but he also was confident enough talking to his employer, because he was the head of HR, so he knew he was a little bit more comfortable. But basically what he did was he got to this point, and he was ready to make this transition now, but he didn't know what he wanted to do. So he went to and he said, look, I'm the head of HR, I got 70 people reporting to me. I'm willing to give all of my direct reports to my successor. If you help me, let me help you identify my successor, and help me groom your successor. So his role became more of coach, manager, mentor, in this last couple of years, and that was three days a week. He said the other day a week. These are institutions, nonprofit institutions, that we, as an organization, support. I want one day to volunteer with one of them, and so now they get a free executive for one day a week. That was great for the company. Worked out well. He said, then the fifth day of the week, I just want a day off. I want to see if I really enjoy leisure. Everyone tells me I'm supposed to play all these rounds of golf and lay back and relax. Let me make sure that that's the right thing for me. So he has three days a week that he is engaging in what he traditionally knows in terms of what his identity is. He has one day a week to see if he wants to change his identity in his community through his volunteerism, and he has one day a week to figure out if I just want to exit all together. And the answer is, you can do one of the three of those. You can continue doing all of the three of those. What we have now is, if you shape them correctly, is we have what are called boundary-less careers. And so this is where I think, you know, we give Millennials a bad rap. We give millennials a bad rap because we always say, well, they like to do a gig economy. They don't stay anywhere 30 years. But what they're really engaging in is today's boundary-less career, where they define success for themselves, versus going down the traditional path, which says you can only be successful by going up the pyramid. For them is, you know what? I can be equally financially successful. I can gig here, gig there, and add it all together, or I can and get this personal freedom and know how to negotiate so that I'm spending more time, just as much time developing my ideal self as I'm developing my ought self.Lesley Logan 29:21  Oh my gosh, Gregg, you just like, I think you're the first person to ever give the millennials a compliment. But thank you. Constantly find myself defending, like, I'm like, what are we talking about? Like, we're not bad, we're we're a group that's how to really fight, like, figure things out. Because when we came into the world where we got a job, like, everything was so uncertain. You know, between 911 and between, that's when I went to college, and then I got out of college, and it was like the recession, like, there's not, there's not been an opportunity to have a certainty of a 30-year career. But I think what you're, what I'm, what I love about what your saying is, like, we've actually been spending our careers figuring out who we are, and like, spending time doing that. And I am obsessed with what the example of the guy you gave, because I think so many people can start playing with that right now. So many companies are looking to go to a four day work week, you know, like, so many places are looking to have like, Okay, you're in office for some days and you're at home for other days. Like, we can look at those opportunities as ways to figure out our retirement identity. Gregg Lunceford 30:22  Right. And a lot of us get stuck in this, oh, well, I work for this large corporation. They aren't flexible. There are a lot of small, medium sized companies that are in growth mode that that model works very well. That's what they can afford. And they need the institutional knowledge and the wisdom you got to be able to and this is where we go back to talking about boundary list careers. You got to think about all of the universe and parts of it you don't even know exist. This is where your personal curiosity has to kick in to get what you want. Lesley Logan 30:53  Yeah. Yeah. Okay, Gregg, so I feel like you are a unicorn though. Like, I really do feel like, because, I mean, obviously, what a cool company, that they're like, yeah, go, take four years to figure out this idea you have, and then, like.Gregg Lunceford 31:09  Well no, they weren't that cool. That's why I'm here. Lesley Logan 31:14  Okay, that's cool. Gregg Lunceford 31:15  I kind of, I took a lot of flack as I was doing this, and because people were going, we don't understand why you're doing thi, right, and you know, we don't really understand your need to do it. And there were a few key executives that said, you know, they were really supportive of me, but overall, it was, you know, I was sort of like I was trailblazing, and people were going, you you have a very good set of responsibilities here, that you could be highly successful. Why do you want to tinker with the mouse trap? And I said, I think this would make me a better advisor to my clients, if I, if I came to understand this now, back then, and, you know, there was no one talking about psychology. I'm a certified financial planner now, the CFP exam as of I think, like two, three years ago, 11% of the exam is psychology now. But I was, I was in a very uncomfortable space, but I believed I was right. So when you start talking about, you know, be it till you see it, right, I'd be, I was in a very uncomfortable space. And this is my book, Exit From Work, I write about it in my book, but I am glad I had the journey, because I feel as though I'm a better professional, and my clients appreciate it.Lesley Logan 32:21  Yeah. I mean, like, you know, years ago, I read the book Psychology of Money, right? I think that's what it's called, or maybe it's called profit, but I think that's money. And, like, I said, like, the type of person you have to be to get money is very different than the type of person you'd be to keep the money. And I was like, like, that's, by the way, that's, like, the thing I remember from the whole book, it's, but at any rate, I remember that sticking going, hold on a second. Like, we as people have to evolve, like, one on the getting, two on the keeping, and that goes kind of along with what you're saying. Like, you know, you have to understand the emotion psychology behind all of this. Because, yes, spreadsheets are great, but with AI, like, we don't need a bunch of people do a spreadsheet anymore. So there's that we need someone to help guide us to like, well, who is it like, where is this money going? What do you want to do with it? What like was also, what if, instead of like, okay, here comes our retirement age, what if it's like, oh my gosh, like, I can't even wait, or, actually, I'm going part time now, and my retirement is part time, and I'm doing all these other things. Like, that's so cool that you, I mean, you do that, it's not easy to be a trailblazer. It's not easy to be the only person talking about it, though. Gregg Lunceford 33:27  Right. It's rewarding in the end, and so, and I think a lot of people find it liberating, because if you got 20 years, you just really want to do what people tell you you ought to do. I mean, especially when you spent the first 60 doing that. And so really, what this third age is supposed to be. It's supposed to be the most dynamic part of your life, right? It is a way to course correct or either enhance something that's already gone well for you, versus a lot of people going to retirement, because that's what retirement was when it first started off, it was really this negotiation between management and labor, where, especially, we were in an industrial society. So labor was more physical, right now we're in a service economy, so it was really more cerebral. But back then, you know, they wanted a management wanted employees who could swing a hammer so many times a minute, and that was usually somebody under age 40, and this is where we start getting age protection laws, right. And anyone over 40 they wanted out of the workforce. So, you know, retirement didn't start off as this, oh, this is this great thing, and they're going to write me checks for the rest of my life. It didn't start off as that. It really started off as you were really making someone feel devalued because you you didn't have any and so we've gone along with this model. It wasn't until maybe, like the 19 late 70s or 1980s when we went into this global recession where people started getting offered these early retirement packages to come out of companies because globally, a lot of people, a lot of companies, had financial issues to deal with. And what they weren't expecting when they let this 55 year old go is that life expectancy was starting to go up, and so now this 55 year old is now living to 80, and they got the best end of the deal. And what is happening financially right now is people are looking at their parents and grandparents who got that deal, and they're going, I can never afford to do what they did, and not realizing that that was an anomaly. And so a lot of people, socially, emotionally, feel like they're failing, and they don't want to talk about retirement because they feel as though I'll never be able to do what the person did before me and therefore there must be something wrong with what I'm doing or what me and the reality is the game is changing, and so you actually have more personal freedom than they have. And just like they walked into a unique situation, you have to craft a unique situation for you that works.Lesley Logan 36:04  Yes, that, Gregg, this is, you're a historian. You're like a life coach and like the person we all need to be thinking about when it comes to like, because it doesn't matter how I mean, obviously we're told, like, the earlier you can start thinking about retirement, the better. But people don't want to do that, like I said the beginning of this. They want to put their head in the sand, like, I can't be my grandparents, so I'm just going to keep doing what I ought to do, and just and like, we'll deal with that later. We'll figure out the number later. But I think if we can, like, start thinking about it now, it really does allow us to curate the experience we have with work, but then also set ourselves up for that third age where we can have a really good time getting to know ourselves even deeper, and not not losing money along the way.Gregg Lunceford 36:51  That's correct, because in that third age, you may convert a hobby. So I have a friend who was in banking with me. He would always go take a week or two off every year and just go to Europe and backpack. He would stay at, you know, two three star hotels. He was like, I'm not there every day. And he would just go take the most amazing pictures he bring them back to the office. And we would go, Jim, you know, you should have an art show. And he was like, Nah, they're just hobbies or whatever. And he had a hard shell, and people started buying his art. And so, you know, now in retirement, you know his joy also produces income. And so he has defined work on his own terms. It doesn't even feel like work to him. And so what a lot of people who are looking at their parents and grandparents and then going, you know, they got this pension for life, and they don't offer pensions anymore, and they didn't get sandwiched. So they didn't have the burden, financial burden of raising kids and having to take care of parents. I'm stuck. I'll never be able to do that. There's something wrong you don't understand. You now have this 20 year life bonus, where you can learn to gig, you can learn to I often point to the show The Golden Girls. I don't know if the creators of the show knew what they were doing or they intentionally did this, but look at that model. I think that's the model a lot of people are going to have to go to. And I think you touched on this a little bit earlier. You start talking about your father and your in laws. And you know, we don't have kinship the way we once did, once small, we have smaller families, right? Two, geographically we disperse, right? And so what in this planning process of your ideal self, what you also have to learn how to do is to replace kinships with friendships. So that's what was going on in that in that Golden Girls house, you had Dorothy and her mother, Sophia, that had a kinship, but where they didn't have kinship, they replaced it with their roommates with Blanche and Betty (inaudible). And so now that you have this replacement of family that you trust and you get along with, now you got four people to split your rent with, so that makes the money go longer, right? Yeah, then you start talking about what went on every day. Well, sometimes they were doing volunteer work, and then they had to spin off where they bought a hotel. So they basically were doing their own version of a gig economy, right? They were engaging as much as they wanted to or not. Then they had socialization from each other. There was always something going on in that house, right? Yes. And so, right? And then they had things to create psychological success. So I don't know if the creators of the show recognized at the time, but to me, I looked at it as sort of foreshadowing what people have to create for themselves on their own with this life bonus, and it will help them both financially, as well as their mental and their mental well being. Lesley Logan 40:00  Gregg, yes. I mean, I joke with my friends who have kids. I'm like, I just want you to know that your kid is gonna have to take care of me because I don't have kids. But really, actually, I just need to find my Golden Girls, my husband. I just need to find a co op, a little commune of all of our friend all of our friends who don't have kids, we actually like what we're being with. And we could have a great little retirement home, maybe make it a BnB. This what I what I just I'm obsessed with, and why I got excited to have you on is, you know, oftentimes the Be It Till You See It podcast really talks about, like, what we can do right now, like, for right now, what we can do to be it till we see it tomorrow, or for the thing we want next year. Or there might be some stuff I have never thought of it as like, what can we be doing right now to be it till we see it for retirement in a way that we can choose, like we get the life is literally what we want, and the research you've done, the education you've had, and how you've literally seen it implemented in unique ways, because of all this work, is so cool. It makes me excited to actually, like, look into that future. Because, like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm not gonna look past 50, because I got things to do with my job, with the job that I created for myself. It's like, oh, hold on a second. What, like, what can I be playing with right now so that I know what I'm gonna do past 50, so that I have something to look forward to. So I'm excited about it. So, Gregg, what are you most excited about right now?Gregg Lunceford 41:20  I'm excited about I'm writing and researching and learning about the person I'm becoming. So and so I often joke with my clients, but I'm really not joking. They'll come back and they'll tell me some amazing experience they had, and I always tell them, leave me a list of notes so I know where to start when it comes to my time, and I say that jokingly, but it's something it is serious. What we all need to start to focus on right now is just like we had that career guidance counselor helping us and coaching us. And to that next thing, we need to start taking time to figure out that action plan for that next thing. And once you start to figure out I need to form a retirement identity and understand my ideal self, you start to self motivate and become excited about it. So what I really enjoy about what I've done through my work, whether it be here as an advisor or through my research, is that I'm helping people understand that they have a lot to be encouraged by, right? You're going to get 20 years to do whatever it is you want to do. And what I also want people to be understanding of. You don't have to leave the workforce if you're doing something awesome already. Just keep doing it. And if you want to modify that in some kind of way, figure out a plan, or figure out your terms and how to negotiate those terms. Say you can do that. Lesley Logan 42:51  Oh, I just like each answer. I just get more excited for people. I'm excited for myself. Like, I'm like, wow, this is so fun. We're gonna take a brief break and then find out where people can find you, follow you, work with you and your Be It Action Items. Lesley Logan 43:00  Okay, Gregg, where can they connect with you? You have a book, Exit From Work, but where, where can they go to chat with you, work with you like, get more ideas about their retirement identity?Gregg Lunceford 43:14  Sure, so I can be reached at mesirow.com so our website, M-E-S-I-R-O-W dot com, on that, if you put in my name in our search engine, Gregg Lunceford, you'll come up with my team web page. We'll have my bio, my contact information, also a list of all my publications. Also, if you're interested in my book, Exit From Work. This can be found on amazon.com, and I'm always encouraged by people who take time to drop me a note, or we didn't even go into I talked about the Golden Girls situation. We didn't even go into their academically based retirement communities. Now, basically, instead of dormitory you lived in when you were in your late teens and 20s, now people are going back to retire near where they went to school. So they now have, because we don't have these kinships, they're now bracing building friendships based on the fact that they're alumni, or they love the school and and so it's sort of like this, you were living in the Golden Girls subdivision, maybe. Lesley Logan 44:15  Oh, my God. Gregg Lunceford 44:15  So there are all kinds of things that are going on right now, and I just, I write about it in my book too. I just want people to learn about that so they don't feel as though they're confined to what they saw their parents do. Lesley Logan 44:27  Yeah, yeah. Oh my gosh, Brad, when you listen to this, we'll choose your school, because he went to music school, so we'll choose that one.Gregg Lunceford 44:37  He could, he could probably teach all the people I know they want to start a rock band. Lesley Logan 44:41  Yeah, yeah, yeah, him and his buddies. That could be their whole little they would love it. Okay, you've given us a lot, but I do want to dive into the bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted steps people can take to be it till they see it. What do you have for us?Gregg Lunceford 44:56  Okay, so what you first have to do is you have to create a vision. And if you have a partner, it is very important that that be a shared vision. The last thing we want to do is get to the end of our career and then have conflict with our partner. And a lot of that happens because most couples do not talk about retirement. They don't even know if the other partners is saving for retirement. Like 40% couples don't even talk about this. Don't even do the calculation to get past them. So so if you haven't even done the basics on that end, talking about this thing you aspire to be is very difficult because And so last thing you want to do is you both jump in it, and then you you're stuck and you're unhappy. So create a vision. If you have a partner, make sure that's a shared vision. And then start talking about goals. Engage someone like myself, who's a financial planning professional, to help you see how you can align your financial wherewithal with those goals. And then think differently. Think about being your best self at this stage, not being someone who society just said it's time for you to leave, because that's not the case. You have more value to offer a lot of people than you think.Lesley Logan 46:07  I do, I love that. This is an episode I really hope my in-laws actually listen to. I really am. I'm actually just really excited for even our our listeners who who are like, you know, they might be in there. They might be, like, 15, 20 years away from retirement, but, or even 10, but, like, we have a bunch of them, and I hope this helps them rethink that, because I think sometimes there's a fear to, oh, my God, you know. And you just said it like being the system has told them that they're done, but you're not done. And so I just you've given, like, so much excitement around this topic, and joy and possibility. So Gregg, thank you for being you. You all, how are you going to use these tips in your life? We want to know. Make sure you tell Gregg Lunceford your takeaways. I'm sure it will make his day. Share this with friend who needs to hear it, that friend who's like, so worried all the time, like, absolutely needs this. And you know what to do until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 47:01  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. 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Knowledge Project: Read the notes at at podcastnotes.org. Don't forget to subscribe for free to our newsletter, the top 10 ideas of the week, every Monday --------- Morgan Housel breaks down the exact framework he uses to build wealth, minimize financial stress, and buy freedom. While most financial advice focuses on how to get rich, Morgan explains why the skills needed to stay rich are completely different. You will learn why "boring" investing beats complex strategies, how to avoid the social traps that destroy wealth, and the specific equation for finding contentment. Morgan Housel is a partner at Collaborative Fund and the bestselling author of The Psychology of Money. Enjoy! ----- Approximate Timestamps: (00:00) Trailer/Introduction (00:58) What Drives You? (04:50) What Can Money Do For Us? (07:22) Happiness vs. Satisfaction (11:45) Becoming Financially Independent (14:40) Survival and Contrast (20:16) Ad Break (21:05) Investing: Can You Beat the Market? (22:32) When Is The Right Time To Buy a House? (26:45) Housing Affordability and Equity (28:39) Step by Step Investing (35:08) Eras of Life and Spending In Those Eras (43:50) Raising Kids With Money (48:46) Social Media: Expectations and Comparison (55:46) Lessons From the Vanderbilts (01:01:21) Learning From Others Spending Habits (01:07:51) Lessons From History: Depressions, Panics, Downturns (01:11:40) Net Worth in Cash (01:14:20) Passive Income and Financial Independence (01:25:58) Massive Success: Doing It All Again (01:32:27) What Should You Optimize For? (01:38:24) What Do You Splurge On? (01:40:38) What Can History Teach Us About Inflation? (01:47:46) Index Funds Allocation (01:53:36) What Is Success For You? ----- This episode of the Knowledge Project is for informational purposes only. The views and opinions expressed by Shane Parrish or our guests are solely their own. Nothing in this conversation should be considered investment advice, financial guidance, or a recommendation to buy or sell any security. Always do your own due diligence or consult with a qualified financial advisor before making investment decisions. It's time to listen and learn. ----- Psychology of Money: https://geni.us/my3K Morgan Housel X: https://x.com/morganhousel Website: https://www.morganhousel.com/ ----- Upgrade: Get a hand edited transcripts and ad free experiences along with my thoughts and reflections at the end of every conversation. Learn more @ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠fs.blog/membership⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ------ Newsletter: The Brain Food newsletter delivers actionable insights and thoughtful ideas every Sunday. It takes 5 minutes to read, and it's completely free. Learn more and sign up at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠fs.blog/newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠------ Follow Shane Parrish: X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/shaneparrish⁠ Insta: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/farnamstreet/⁠ LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/shane-parrish-050a2183/⁠ ------ Thank you to the sponsors for this episode: Granola AI, The AI notepad for people in back-to-back meetings: https://www.granola.ai/shane Check out the Granola Notes here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I came across a Wall Street Journal article about families making over $250,000, putting them in the top 10% of all household incomes in the country, who still don't feel wealthy. One family earning $350,000 (in the top 4%) owns two homes, has three kids in club sports, and can't shake the feeling that they're struggling. In this episode, I explore why modern life makes it so hard to feel like you have enough. How our standards of living have improved dramatically, but we've just created different problems. Why kids' activities drain families more than almost anything else. And how the real challenge, as Morgan Housel says, is getting the goalpost to stop moving. This week: Look back at where you started instead of comparing yourself to some moving horizon ahead. Check your household income against national percentiles. You might be surprised how far you've come. Connect with Paul Contact Paul here or schedule a time to meet with Paul here. For resources discussed in this episode, visit tammacapital.com/podcast. Follow Paul on LinkedIn and YouTube. And feel free to email Paul at pfenner@tammacapital.com with any feedback, questions, or ideas for future guests and topics. Resources Featured in This Episode: They're in the Top 10% of Earners. They Still Don't Feel Rich. Are You Living a Life Less Ordinary? The Gap and the Gain – Navigating Purpose

Today we are talking endurance.We breakdown the quote: “The trick in any field, from finance to careers to relationships is being able to survive the short-run problems. So you can stick around long enough to enjoy the long-term growth.” from Same as Ever by Morgan Housel's.Housel basically says the real trick is surviving the short-term problems long enough to benefit from the long-term ones. Which sounds obvious until you are in the middle of the short-term problems and losing your mind.In case you were wondering, the short-term problems never go away. They just change shape. Different job. Same stuff. New title. Same annoyances. Different company. Same human behavior.Endurance does not get nearly enough credit at work. Talent gets praised. Intelligence gets rewarded. Big ideas get airtime. But most careers are built by the people who can stay steady when things get boring, messy, repetitive, or just plain annoying.We talk about what endurance actually looks like in real life. Not grit as a poster on the wall, but the ability to compartmentalize, keep perspective, and not spiral every time something goes sideways. Showing up with energy even when you do not feel inspired. Doing the work in front of you instead of obsessing over everything else.We also get into effort. The stuff that takes no talent. Being prepared. Paying attention. Staying focused. Not quitting early just because something got hard or uncomfortable.If work feels heavy right now, if you are tired of the short-term problems and wondering when it gets easier, this one is a reminder that staying power matters.This is WORK. Underlined. Get full access to WORK at erikaayersbadan.substack.com/subscribe

Want the 4 money rules that changed Shaan's life? Get it here: https://clickhubspot.com/ugd Episode 787:  Sam Parr ( ⁠https://x.com/theSamParr⁠ ) and Shaan Puri ( ⁠https://x.com/ShaanVP⁠ ) talk to Morgan Housel ( https://x.com/morganhousel ) about the art of spending money.  Show Notes: (0:00) Intro (10:01) Don't cut your flowers (15:38) the 2 ways to use money (19:07) The freedom number (23:49) Koch brothers story (27:41) Performing for others (33:38) The Total Man list (41:59) the art of spending money (49:42) 10 years of money wisdom in 60 seconds — Links: • Morgan Housel books - https://www.morganhousel.com/  — Check Out Shaan's Stuff: • Shaan's weekly email - https://www.shaanpuri.com  • Visit https://www.somewhere.com/mfm to hire worldwide talent like Shaan and get $500 off for being an MFM listener. Hire developers, assistants, marketing pros, sales teams and more for 80% less than US equivalents. • Mercury - Need a bank for your company? Go check out Mercury (mercury.com). Shaan uses it for all of his companies! Mercury is a financial technology company, not an FDIC-insured bank. Banking services provided by Choice Financial Group, Column, N.A., and Evolve Bank & Trust, Members FDIC • I run all my newsletters on Beehiiv and you should too + we're giving away $10k to our favorite newsletter, check it out: beehiiv.com/mfm-challenge — Check Out Sam's Stuff: • Hampton - https://www.joinhampton.com/ • Ideation Bootcamp - https://www.ideationbootcamp.co/ • Copy That - https://copythat.com • Hampton Wealth Survey - https://joinhampton.com/wealth • Sam's List - http://samslist.co/ My First Million is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by HubSpot Media // Production by Arie Desormeaux // Editing by Ezra Bakker Trupiano

Morgan Housel breaks down the exact framework he uses to build wealth, minimize financial stress, and buy freedom. While most financial advice focuses on how to get rich, Morgan explains why the skills needed to stay rich are completely different. You will learn why "boring" investing beats complex strategies, how to avoid the social traps that destroy wealth, and the specific equation for finding contentment. Morgan Housel is a partner at Collaborative Fund and the bestselling author of The Psychology of Money. Enjoy! ----- Approximate Timestamps: (00:00) Trailer/Introduction (00:58) What Drives You? (04:50) What Can Money Do For Us? (07:22) Happiness vs. Satisfaction (11:45) Becoming Financially Independent (14:40) Survival and Contrast (20:16) Ad Break (21:05) Investing: Can You Beat the Market? (22:32) When Is The Right Time To Buy a House? (26:45) Housing Affordability and Equity (28:39) Step by Step Investing (35:08) Eras of Life and Spending In Those Eras (43:50) Raising Kids With Money (48:46) Social Media: Expectations and Comparison (55:46) Lessons From the Vanderbilts (01:01:21) Learning From Others Spending Habits (01:07:51) Lessons From History: Depressions, Panics, Downturns (01:11:40) Net Worth in Cash (01:14:20) Passive Income and Financial Independence (01:25:58) Massive Success: Doing It All Again (01:32: 27) What Should You Optimize For? (01:38:24) What Do You Splurge On? (01:40:38) What Can History Teach Us About Inflation? (01:47:46) Index Funds Allocation (01:53:36) What Is Success For You? ----- This episode of the Knowledge Project is for informational purposes only. The views and opinions expressed by Shane Parrish or our guests are solely their own. Nothing in this conversation should be considered investment advice, financial guidance, or a recommendation to buy or sell any security. Always do your own due diligence or consult with a qualified financial advisor before making investment decisions. It's time to listen and learn. ----- Psychology of Money: https://geni.us/my3K ----- Upgrade: Get a hand edited transcripts and ad free experiences along with my thoughts and reflections at the end of every conversation. Learn more @ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠fs.blog/membership⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ------ Newsletter: The Brain Food newsletter delivers actionable insights and thoughtful ideas every Sunday. It takes 5 minutes to read, and it's completely free. Learn more and sign up at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠fs.blog/newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠------ Follow Shane Parrish: X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/shaneparrish⁠ Insta: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/farnamstreet/⁠ LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/shane-parrish-050a2183/⁠ ------ Thank you to the sponsors for this episode: Granola AI, The AI notepad for people in back-to-back meetings: https://www.granola.ai/shane Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Are we actively watching the rise of the degenerate economy? What does it mean for our entrepreneurial behaviors? What does it mean for our portfolios? Does gambling your way to wealth make sense? And what types of trends will emerge and strengthen in 2026? Smart things look stupid for a while until they look smart. Dan and Jeff share their thoughts on the recent viral X article “The Prison of Financial Mediocrity” and their views on the “socially acceptable” risk of entrepreneurship as an escape from the 9-5. LINKS Bento will beat your current email bill — up to 70% off or $300 in credits (https://bentonow.com/tmba) “The Prison of Financial Mediocrity” Full Article (https://x.com/systematicls/status/2004900241745883205) The End of Jobs by Taylor Pearson (Dynamite Circle member!) (https://www.amazon.com/End-Jobs-Meaning-9-5-ebook/dp/B010L8SYRG) The Psychology of Money by Morgan Housel (https://www.amazon.com/dp/0857197681/) Same As Ever by Morgan Housel (https://www.amazon.com/Same-Ever-Guide-Never-Changes/dp/0593332709) The Courage to Be Disliked by Ichiro Kishimi et al (https://www.amazon.com/The-Courage-to-Be-Disliked-audiobook/dp/B07BRPW98K/) Meet lifestyle founders inside Dynamite Circle (https://dynamitecircle.com/) Hang out exclusively with 7+ figure founders in DC BLACK (https://dynamitecircle.com/dc-black) CHAPTERS (00:00:52) The Traditional Path is Closed (00:06:00) The Era of Long Degeneracy & Success Via Risk (00:10:49) Opportunity When the Game is Rigged Against You (00:20:27) The Socially Acceptable Lottery Ticket (00:25:47) Financial Nihilism and Betting on Change CONNECT: Dan@tropicalmba.com Ian@tropicalmba.com Past guests on TMBA include Cal Newport, David Heinemeier Hannson, Seth Godin, Ricardo Semler, Noah Kagan, Rob Walling, Jay Clouse, Einar Vollset, Sam Dogan, Gino Wickam, James Clear, Jodie Cook, Mark Webster, Steph Smith, Taylor Pearson, Justin Tan, Matt Gartland, Ayman Al-Abdullah, Lucy Bella. PLAYLIST: How to Actually Build Systems in Your Small Business ft. Layla Pomper (https://tropicalmba.com/episodes/how-to-build-systems) “The World Is Ending.” These 5 Businesses Are Still Making Millions (https://tropicalmba.com/episodes/the-world-is-ending-9jp7t) Why $120K From Your Biz Beats $150K at a Job (https://tropicalmba.com/episodes/balancing-wealth-freedom-mindset)

Over the past six months, participants of the Emerging Leaders Book Club met to explore three powerful titles: Greenlights by Matthew McConaughey, The Psychology of Money by Morgan Housel and The Obstacle Is the Way by Ryan Holiday. Three of the NJCPA members who led the book discussions — Matt Mojica, Brandon Ventura and Lexi Wilson — share why these books were chosen as well as the insights and “aha” moments that inspired them. Topics discussed:Why these three books were chosenCommon themes across the booksInsights that stood outBig-picture messagesHow insights from the books can be applied in your careerFuture of the book club Resources:Emerging Leaders meetings and eventsCareer Development Knowledge Hub

SummaryIn this episode of Money Monday, Benjamin Lee discusses key insights from Morgan Housel's book, 'The Psychology of Money.' He emphasizes the difference between getting wealthy and staying wealthy, highlighting the importance of a survival mindset in financial success. Benjamin shares practical advice on planning for uncertainty and the significance of having a margin of safety in financial decisions. The conversation encourages listeners to adopt a balanced approach to wealth management, combining optimism with a healthy dose of caution.TakeawaysThere's a difference between getting wealthy and staying wealthy.Staying wealthy requires a combination of frugality and paranoia.Money success can be summarized as survival.Planning is essential, but expect the unexpected.Room for error is crucial in financial planning.A barbell personality balances optimism and caution.Compounding works best when you can sustain good returns.Emergency funds are vital for financial stability.Financial plans should embrace uncertainty.Wealth management is about holding onto what you have.Chapters00:00 The Psychology of Money: An Introduction00:50 Getting Wealthy vs. Staying Wealthy03:44 The Survival Mindset in Finance07:29 Planning for Uncertainty and Margin of SafetyBlogs, Books, Newsletter: https://benjaminlee.bloghttps://biblebenjaminlee.comYoutube: https://youtube.com/@icandopodcast?si=U6AMkwyhNtBRJJRX

Dentists are taught to equate success with production, income, and constant growth. But many high-achieving practice owners still feel stressed, restless, or burned out. In this episode of The Lifestyle Practice Podcast, Dr. Derek Williams sits down with repeat guest Dr. Talon Davis to explore a better framework for wealth, ambition, and fulfillment through the lens of Morgan Housel's book The Art of Spending Money. They discuss how dentists often use money as a status scoreboard, why lifestyle inflation happens even when income rises, and how contentment can be engineered through intentional choices. You'll hear practical insights about financial mindset, goal-setting, and designing a dental career you don't need to escape. This episode is especially relevant for dental practice owners, associates considering ownership, and anyone looking for sustainable dental business growth without sacrificing mental health or family time. If you're questioning whether your next milestone will actually make you happier, this conversation will help you reframe success and build a lifestyle-driven dental practice with clarity. Connect with us: • Learn more about 1 on 1 coaching • Get access to TLP Academy • Subscribe to The Lifestyle Practice Podcast • Email Derek at derek@thelifestylepractice.com • Email Matt at matt@thelifestylepractice.com • Email Steve at steve@thelifestylepractice.com

SummaryIn this episode, Benjamin Lee discusses the key themes from 'The Psychology of Money' by Morgan Housel, focusing on the psychological aspects of money management, the evolution of work and retirement, and the importance of financial literacy. He emphasizes that many financial tools and concepts are relatively new, leading to a lack of experience in managing money effectively. The conversation highlights the need for a shift in mindset regarding money, saving, and spending, encouraging listeners to reflect on their own financial narratives and behaviors.TakeawaysMoney is often not how much we make, but what we do with it.The psychology of money plays a crucial role in financial decisions.Retirement as a concept is relatively new in history.Many people struggle with saving due to psychological barriers.Education and financial literacy are essential for better money management.Impulse shopping can lead to financial troubles.Understanding one's own money narrative is important.Work is a blessing and should be viewed positively.New financial tools can be overwhelming for many.Budgeting can help individuals realize they have enough money. Chapters00:00 Introduction to Money Psychology03:15 Historical Context of Work and Retirement06:12 Education and Financial Decisions09:33 The Psychology of Money Management

Morgan Housel es un columnista financiero y autor que analiza el comportamiento humano en cuestiones de economía y finanzas (ahorro e inversión). A ello ha dedicado sus dos bestsellers anteriores: La psicología del dinero y Lo que nunca cambia: 23 lecciones atemporales para nuestra vida personal y financiera. Su obra más reciente, El arte de gastar dinero, argumenta que el mayor retorno de una inversión es la tranquilidad, no la riqueza monetaria. Housel desafía la noción de gastar por estatus o imagen e invita a la introspección, utilizando el dinero como una herramienta para alcanzar la verdadera felicidad. Su obra se centra en desmantelar las trampas psicológicas—como la envidia y la inseguridad—que dictan nuestras decisiones y en redefinir la gestión financiera a través del autoconocimiento. A lo largo de esta sesión conversaremos con Marcos Álvarez y Domingo Soriano acerca de las ideas principales de El arte de gastar dinero, el nuevo libro de Morgan Housel. Domingo Soriano es uno de los periodistas de información económica más conocidos de España. Es licenciado en Derecho y ADE por la Universidad Carlos III de Madrid y número uno de su promoción del máster de periodismo de la Universidad San Pablo-CEU y El Mundo-Unidad Editorial. Presentador de programas tan populares como La pizarra de Domingo Soriano, Tu dinero nunca duerme y el «podcast» Economía para quedarte sin amigos, Domingo lleva más de una década escribiendo sobre economía en Libertad Digital, analizando medidas de política económica en esRadio y en tertulias de televisión, y enseñando economía a estudiantes de la Universidad Francisco Marroquín. Marcos Álvarez es responsable de comunicación de Más Dividendos y responsable de relación con inversores de Adarve Gestión de Activos. Estudió Ingeniería Técnica Industrial por la Universidad Politécnica de Madrid y es consultor SAP e inversor autodidacta. Lleva más de 15 años practicando y defendiendo la inversión racional a largo plazo, las finanzas, y las relaciones de confianza. Marcos es colaborador habitual en programas de divulgación financiera en radio, en prensa y en foros de inversión.

In this episode we conduct our annual portfolio reviews of our eight sample portfolios you can find at Portfolios | Risk Parity Radio, and compare them with commercial alternatives.  We discuss why factors beat geography, and explain how gold, bonds, and managed futures improved results and withdrawal durability.We also confront the real roadblock to a good retirement: underspending driven by identity and fear, which we heard about in 2025 from Bill Bengen, Michael Kitces and Carl Richards, Morgan Housel and David Bach, among others.Breathless Unedited AI-Bot Summary:The biggest retirement risk most prepared savers face isn't market volatility—it's not spending enough. We dig into why identity and fear keep people stuck in “I am a saver” mode, and how to break that habit with a portfolio built for higher, safer withdrawals. Then we open the books on eight sample portfolios and share what actually worked in 2025: factor-driven international exposure, a powerful year for gold, the yield curve's shift favoring intermediate bonds, and a split decision for managed futures where DBMF led.You'll hear how the Golden Butterfly and Golden Ratio outperformed classic 60/40 approaches by leaning on uncorrelated return drivers, and why DIY risk parity designs can match or beat commercial funds at lower cost. We walk through the conservative All Seasons mix, the diversified Risk Parity Ultimate, and two leverage case studies: one that shows how leverage without real diversification can disappoint, and another that demonstrates smart “return stacking” with OPTRA—combining modest leverage, gold, value tilts, and managed futures for equity-like returns with a steadier ride.Along the way, we connect portfolio choices to what matters most: turning savings into a life well-lived over the next decade. A candid listener story reminds us that time is finite, and that a better withdrawal rate is not a luxury—it's a plan for joy, relationships, and experiences now. If you've wondered whether your mix underuses factors, overlooks gold, or over-relies on 60/40 assumptions, this is your field guide to a sturdier, more generous retirement strategy.If this resonates, tap follow, share it with a friend who needs a nudge to spend confidently, and leave a quick review with your biggest portfolio question. Your next ten years will thank you.Support the show

One Yale economist certainly thinks so. But even if he's right, are economists any better? We find out, in this update of a 2022 episode. SOURCES:James Choi, professor of finance at the Yale School of Management.Morgan Housel, personal finance author and partner at the Collaborative Fund. RESOURCES:The Art of Spending Money: Simple Choices for a Richer Life, by Morgan Housel (2025).“Popular Personal Financial Advice versus the Professors,” by James J. Choi (Journal of Economic Perspectives, 2022).“Media Persuasion and Consumption: Evidence from the Dave Ramsey Show,” by Felix Chopra (SSRN, 2021).The Psychology of Money: Timeless Lessons on Wealth, Greed, and Happiness, by Morgan Housel (2020).“In Bogle Family, It's Either Passive or Aggressive,” by Liam Pleven (Wall Street Journal, 2013). EXTRAS: “Harold Pollack on Why Managing Your Money Is as Easy as Taking Out the Garbage,” by People I (Mostly) Admire (2021).“People Aren't Dumb. The World Is Hard,” by Freakonomics Radio (2018).“Everything You Always Wanted to Know About Money (But Were Afraid to Ask),” by Freakonomics Radio (2017).“The Stupidest Thing You Can Do With Your Money,” by Freakonomics Radio (2017). Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Cuando hablamos de dinero, casi nunca hablamos de lo que realmente está detrás: nuestras emociones, creencias, comparaciones y miedos. En este primer episodio de la miniserie, exploramos por qué el dinero no es solo números, sino una extensión de nuestra historia, nuestras expectativas y de la forma en la que tomamos decisiones.Inspiradas por los aprendizajes de The Psychology of Money, de Morgan Housel, reflexionamos sobre cómo dejar de vivir desde la prisa y empezar a elegir con calma, claridad y propósito.

This will likely be the last episode of 2025. I start with a car accident story, followed by another setback I had recently. Both incidents have me slowing down and reassessing how to navigate the day-to-day with limited mobility. It's been a frustrating finale to '25. But I'm hopeful 2026 is going to be lit like New Year's celebrations in Germany back before Islamic terrorists they imported caused them to cancel festivities.In this episode, I pick back up with Morgan Housel's The Art of Spending Money, keeping the focus broad and practical. The discussion centers on how money decisions are deeply emotional, how status-chasing erodes happiness, and why independence, flexibility, and peace of mind matter far more than looking rich.I also give an update in the best movie ever: Rob Reiner's death, Bernie Sanders' brand of progressivism, AI data centers, Epstein files release, and much more.

Listen in on a conversation around a practical approach to managing your wealth while finding meaning in life. Michelle Martin speaks with Craig Pearce publisher of "The Art of Spending Money " by Morgan Housel to take readers beyond the page. Why is this book especially relevant when prices of things around us seem to be increasing? Can one still make money by writing books? This is a conversation for both readers and aspiring authors, hoping to be picked up by renowned publishing houses.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

From fluctuation management to legacy building: Why pricing for raw material surges determines survival - and the brutal truth about loneliness, university-free success, and the discipline system that turns broken-home survivors into branded empire builders. In this explosive episode of Konnected Minds, Felix Afutu - founder of McPhilix plantain chips and Ghana's only branded plantain production company - dismantles the dangerous pricing fantasy keeping young African entrepreneurs trapped in customer-pleasing cycles while their businesses bleed money during raw material fluctuations. This isn't motivational business talk from Instagram gurus - it's a raw breakdown of why you must price with a 20% margin buffer that absorbs seasonal plantain price surges of 500-600% without destroying customer loyalty or business sustainability, why entrepreneurship in Ghana is a lonely journey that breaks you down before building you back stronger, and why the university dropout who survived broken homes, house boy discipline, and public rejection now runs a branded plantain empire while degree holders wait for perfect conditions that never come. Critical revelations include: • The pricing formula that saves businesses during raw material crises: build in 20% fluctuation room so when plantain prices surge, you lose expected profit but stay in business - then adjust gradually without shocking customers • Why raw material prices in Ghana fluctuate with dollar exchange rates - entrepreneurs who price based only on current costs go broke when prices jump 500% between seasons • The brutal truth about entrepreneurship in Ghana: it's lonely, it breaks you to make you, and if you're not passionate enough, you'll fail when the first major challenge hits • Why he's never been to university but speaks business like someone with a business degree - self-education, learning from successful CEOs, following their paths, speaking their language • The survivor mindset: raised fighting battles from infancy, never had "giving up" in his vocabulary - challenges break him down emotionally, but quitting has never been an option • Why he's not in business for money or enormous wealth - the goal is impact, legacy, creating something his offspring will be proud of • The platform rejection reality: people make you feel like you don't deserve success because you didn't go to university - "you want to raise it with a big voice, but you've never even passed a party" • The crying-in-your-room moments: when friends and people indirectly say you don't deserve the platform you've earned, when educated people question how a non-graduate is achieving what degree holders can't • The discipline foundation: raised under strict discipline systems that shaped his entire business approach - motivation fades, but discipline keeps you on the right path • The best advice that changed everything: uncle's warning about planning for the future after seeing his mother lose everything and watching friends disappear when the money ran out • The leadership transformation: used to be a very bad leader, read "How to Lead Without a Title" and learned how to be effective without relying on positional authority • The relationship rescue: struggling with friendships until reading "How People Think" revealed all the errors in how he related to others - understanding psychology changed everything • The confidence restoration: reading "The Psychology of Money" by Morgan Housel confirmed he was on the right path when self-doubt made him question if he was failing The conversation reaches its uncomfortable peak with a truth that destroys education-based success myths: this man never went to university, survived a broken home where feeding three square meals was a challenge, lived as a house boy under strict discipline, built Ghana's leading branded plantain company from a table top, and now gets told by educated people that he doesn't deserve the platform he's earned - because they went to university and still haven't achieved what a non-graduate built through passion, discipline, and survivor instincts. Meanwhile, degree holders wait for perfect conditions, blame lack of capital, and miss the brutal lesson: entrepreneurship in Ghana rewards those who price strategically for fluctuations, build discipline systems that survive breakdown moments, and create legacy instead of chasing wealth - not those who collect certificates and wait for opportunities that never come. Host: Derrick Abaitey IG: https://www.instagram.com/derrick.abaitey YT: https://www.youtube.com/@DerrickAbaitey Join Konnected Academy: https://konnectedacademy.com/ Recommended Books: • How to Lead Without a Title • How People Think • The Psychology of Money - Morgan Housel • Surrounded by Idiots #Podcast #businesspodcast #AfricanPodcast

Money, Happiness, and the Race You're Actually Running as a Clinic Owner Episode Overview In this episode, Danny shares his favorite book of the year — The Art of Spending Money by Morgan Housel — and why it hit so hard as a cash-based business owner. He breaks down how money, attention, and expectations shape your happiness, why comparison quietly wrecks clinic owners, and how to use your business as a vehicle for the life you actually want instead of letting it become your whole identity. Key Topics Covered Why money mindset is such a big problem in the PT profession Why Danny recommends Morgan Housel's books to clinic owners "May I Have Your Attention Please?" – how attention drives happiness The danger of comparing your clinic to someone else's revenue Context you never see behind other people's success "The Happiest People I Know" – business as vehicle vs. business as life Trading time for money vs. protecting what matters most Lifestyle creep and constantly moving the goalposts Defining the race you're running and saying no on purpose Why "no thank you" money is real wealth Book Recommendation: The Art of Spending Money Danny highlights The Art of Spending Money by Morgan Housel as his favorite book of the year and a perfect follow-up to Housel's earlier book, The Psychology of Money. While the title sounds like a pure finance book, Danny and his wife both felt it's really about: How you make decisions around money How those decisions impact your happiness and contentment How self-awareness around money affects your quality of life For clinic owners, it's especially relevant because you're: Charging for your own services Paying staff and managing payroll Using money as a tool for growth, security, and freedom Attention, Comparison, and Feeling Miserable Danny breaks down a section from the book called "May I Have Your Attention Please?", which focuses on how your attention influences your happiness. Example: Your clinic is doing ~$500k a year. You're profitable, love your niche, and like your team and culture. Then you meet another owner doing $2M a year. If you put all your attention on that comparison, you go from proud to deflated in seconds: "I'm behind." "I must be doing something wrong." But you have no idea: What advantages they had going in (investors, family help, safety nets) What trade-offs they made (health, marriage, time with kids) Whether they'd actually trade lives with you If they're at $2M but wrecked their health and relationships, while you're at $500k with strong health and a solid home life, who's really winning? It depends on your values. The point: if you want to stay miserable, keep comparing yourself to everyone else. Business as Vehicle vs. Business as Your Whole Life Danny then shifts to another section: "The Happiest People I Know." The big idea: Your business should be the vehicle that supports the life you want. Most owners accidentally let the business become their life. He gives a simple comparison: Owner A: Works 60 hours/week, makes $300k. Owner B: Works 30 hours/week, makes $200k. Neither is right or wrong. It depends on your season of life and what you value more: extra money or extra time. Questions to ask: Do I want the extra $100k badly enough to trade 30 more hours a week? What am I saying "no" to when I say "yes" to more growth? Is this growth actually changing my life in a meaningful way? Lifestyle Creep and Moving the Goalposts Danny explains how success usually comes with two hidden traps: Lifestyle creep: As you earn more, your spending grows to match. Constantly moving the goalposts: Every time you hit one target, you immediately raise the bar. Result: you feel like you always have to keep saying yes to more growth, more risk, and more time in the business just to sustain a lifestyle you drifted into. Instead, he challenges clinic owners to: Define a clear income and lifestyle goal on purpose. Live below that level even as income grows. Build "no thank you" money – enough margin to say no to opportunities that don't fit. Run Your Own Race Danny uses a running analogy he often shares with PT Biz clients: If you're running a 10K and someone else is running a marathon, your paces and training look different. You can't compare your numbers and expect them to match. In business: Some owners just want one great clinic that they keep for decades. Others want a multi-location platform they eventually sell. Neither is better. But if you don't know which race you're running, you'll: Say yes to things that pull you away from what matters most. End up living a life you never intentionally chose. Big Takeaways Money is a tool, not a scoreboard. Your attention determines how happy or miserable you feel about your progress. Success without alignment can feel like a trap. Define your race, your goals, and your trade-offs on purpose. Real wealth is the ability to say "no" and still be fine. Free Resources from PT Biz PT Biz Part-Time to Full-Time 5-Day Challenge: Get crystal clear on how much you need to replace, how many patients you need to see, and what to charge so you can go full time in your practice. physicaltherapybiz.com/challenge Book a Free Discovery Call: Talk with a PT Biz advisor about your clinic, your goals, and the race you actually want to run. Book your discovery call Try Clair, the AI Scribe for PTs: Offload documentation so you can focus on patients and protect your time. meetclair.ai Connect with PT Biz Official Website Podcast: PT Entrepreneur Podcast

I'm wrestling with a question that's been on my mind lately: Have we given money a job it simply can't do? There is a complicated relationship between money and our emotions, and how we sometimes hope numbers and bank balances will take away our fear or anxiety, even though those are emotions, not equations. Inspired by Carl Richards' book "Your Money," I talk about how our financial lives and our feelings are tangled together, especially for those of us in the thick of parenting, where there's never really an "off season." With insights from thought leaders like Morgan Housel, I explore the challenge of defining your goals and finding what "enough" really means, even as the goalposts keep moving. If you've ever wondered why having more money doesn't quite silence your worries or how your money beliefs shape your life, you're not alone. Connect with Paul Contact Paul here or schedule a time to meet with Paul here. For resources discussed in this episode, visit tammacapital.com/podcast. Follow Paul on LinkedIn and YouTube. And feel free to email Paul at pfenner@tammacapital.com with any feedback, questions, or ideas for future guests and topics. Resources Featured in This Episode: Just Wait: Fuel for Financial and Emotional Anxiety Understanding and Managing Anxiety: Practical Steps for a Balanced Life Building Healthy Habits: Overcoming Fear and Anxiety Through Tiny Changes

t's the 50th week of the year, which means it's time once again for the Besties—a celebration of the episodes that educated, amused, and enriched us most in 2025. David highlights ten standout episodes from this year, revisiting the ideas, stories, and lessons that lingered long after the microphones were off. And all of the voices behind those moments return for brief cameos, reflecting on the year that was and looking ahead to what comes next. From Authors in August and a Market Cap Game Show world championship, to character, community, games, and the many ways listeners took concrete steps toward financial freedom, this episode captures the breadth of what Rule Breaker Investing aims to be: thoughtful, optimistic, playful, and practical. A year in review — not ranked, just remembered. Companies mentioned: VKTX Sign up for The Motley Fool's Breakfast News here: ⁠www.fool.com/breakfastnews⁠ Order David's Rule Breaker Investing book here: ⁠https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1804091219/ Host: David GardnerGuests: Andy Cross, Chris Hill, Emily Flippen, Morgan Housel, Randi Zuckerberg, Rick Engdahl, Sam Horn, Sem Verbeek, Shirzad ChamineProducer: Bart Shannon Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Kiersten here. This week's episode is a solo one, and it's inspired by a book I just finished called The Art of Spending Money by Morgan Housel. If you're familiar with The Psychology of Money, you already know Morgan's style: short chapters, clean sentences, and big ideas. This new book is about spending but not the kind most people are struggling with.In this episode, I unpack:Who this book is really forTwo core takeaways that stuck: the psychology of contrast and the sustainability of contentmentA personal reflection on second Christmases, cultural context, and spending through the lens of joyA nuanced breakdown of how happiness is framed in the book and why that definition isn't one-size-fits-allI wouldn't call this a summary per se, it's a review with a little reflection, a little pushback, and hopefully a fresh lens for whatever season you're in.Hit play and let me know what you think. Connect with Julien and Kiersten on our website, Instagram, Twitter, and YouTube.Join our email list to get updates from us, opportunities for discounts, freebies and a quick rundown on the relevant financial and career news impacting your life. Get our book Cashing Out: Win the Wealth Game by Walking Away, named 2023 best overall book about investing by Business Insider and one of the best personal finance books by ForbesIf you would like to learn more about investing, check out our newest class, Making Money Grow

你是否覺得買了想要的東西後，興奮感只能維持一下下？為什麼很多億萬富翁反而比普通人更不快樂？本集深入解讀暢銷書《金錢心理學》作者 Morgan Housel 的最新力作《金錢的藝術》(The Art of Spending Money)。我將揭露一個違背常理的真相：真正的財富不是你賺了多少，而是你如何控制你的慾望。透過「快樂 = 現實 - 期望」這條公式，你將學會如何停止玩註定會輸的「地位遊戲」，擺脫金錢焦慮，找回對生活的掌控權。時間戳章節00:00 為什麼你買越多越空虛？地位遊戲的陷阱01:23 Morgan Housel 新書《金錢的藝術》核心介紹03:14 激光矯視的故事：當期望毀了現實06:44 你是在用錢，還是錢在用你？10:45 榮格心理學：幸福的 5 大真實要素16:40 窮人思維 vs 富人思維？不同背景下的金錢觀22:25 慾望跑步機：為什麼我們永遠不滿足？24:50 核心公式：快樂 = 現實 - 期望27:20 兩個航海者的故事：為自己活 vs 為別人活

This week's solo episode I pick back up with Morgan Housel's The Art of Spending Money. As I read through it, the book continues to prove how much of our relationship with money is shaped by our upbringing and expectations. I discuss why contentment matters as much as income, why comparison is not only the thief of joy but can be poisonous, and how money buys freedom only when you stop letting others' opinions steer your choices.I also dig into the bigger themes Housel raises around happiness, independence, and the quiet traps people fall into when they chase status instead of meaning. It's a reminder that good money decisions start in your head long before they show up in your bank account.Also this week's biggest political and financial stories – from Venezuela tensions and US military moves to IQ data, poverty studies, S&P dominance, housing costs, global investing trends, consumer stats, America's shifting cultural landscape, and much more.

Geld uitgeven is een kunst, als we Morgan Housel mogen geloven. Eentje die slechts weinigen beheersen. In zijn nieuwe boek The Art of Spending Money legt de schrijver uit hoe je ervoor zorgt dat je de baas wordt over je geld, in plaats van andersom. Pim en Milou delen de lessen die hen het meest aanspreken. In gesprek over onafhankelijkheid, het minimaliseren van toekomstige spijt, en is het leven nu kort of juist lang?! Wat in ieder geval duidelijk is: personal finance is meer personal, dan finance. Verder een bescheiden kerstoproepje en op zijn pad naar een meer geconcentreerd portfolio, deed Pim ook nog wat transacties… ► Uitgebreide show notes en achtergrondinformatie: https://jongbeleggendepodcast.nl/208-geld-voor-nu-of-voor-later ► Word Vriend: https://portfoliodividendtracker.com ► Updates via Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jongbeleggen ► Mijn volledige portfolio: https://app.portfoliodividendtracker.com/p/jongbeleggen 1) We maken gebruik van programmatic advertising, wat inhoudt dat we geen invloed hebben op de spots die in de podcast worden afgespeeld. Dit is vergelijkbaar met tv, YouTube, radio en de krant, uiteraard met uitzondering van de advertenties die we zelf hebben ingesproken. 2) Deze podcast is 100% expertise-vrij en alleen geschikt voor amusementsdoeleinden. De inhoud mag niet worden beschouwd als financieel advies. ► Voor boekhoudtips én een extra lange gratis proefperiode, ga naar moneybird.nl/jongbeleggen. ► Ga naar Incogni.com/JongBeleggen voor 60% korting. ► Geef jezelf 3 tellen en bij twijfel klik weg. Deze aflevering is in samenwerking met De Rijksoverheid. Kijk voor meer informatie over online oplichting op laatjenietinterneppen.nl.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Después de su exitoso libro “La psicología del dinero”, Morgan Housel explica en esta obra cómo las pequeñas decisiones son la base para una vida más rica y por qué el mayor retorno que se debe buscar en una inversión no es más dinero, sino tranquilidad. Housel Housel recomienda, por ejemplo, quitar las capas de la personalidad para descubrir qué es lo que verdaderamente conduce a una persona a gastar desaforadamente o, por el contrario, a desarrollar un miedo tan grande a gastar dinero que no lo hace, aunque pudiera. Dale play y descubre más.

Destripamos "El arte de gastar dinero: Pequeñas decisiones para una vida más rica", el último libro de Morgan Housel. Esta semana, en Economía Para Quedarte Sin Amigos, destripamos "El arte de gastar dinero. Pequeñas decisiones para una vida más rica", el último libro de Morgan Housel.

Here's something nobody tells you: knowing how to make money is easy compared to knowing how to spend it well. Morgan Housel, bestselling author and one of the sharpest minds in personal finance, is back in the basement with Joe Saul-Sehy, OG, and Neighbor Doug to tackle the question most financial advice completely ignores: why do we spend the way we do, and how can we get better at it? This isn't about budgeting apps or cutting lattes. It's about understanding the psychology underneath every swipe of your card. Morgan shares stories from his early days working valet for the ultra-wealthy—the spending patterns he observed, the misery he witnessed, and the lessons that changed how he thinks about money forever. Turns out, having more money doesn't automatically make you better at spending it. In fact, it often makes you worse. The conversation digs into what actually creates happiness (spoiler: it's not more stuff), why contentment matters more than your net worth, and how true financial independence isn't about the size of your portfolio—it's about the freedom to make choices that align with your actual values. Morgan also breaks down what Warren Buffett's retirement announcement reveals about staying grounded while building wealth, and why comedians might understand money better than most economists. Plus: Doug takes a trivia detour to a surprisingly risqué national park (because of course), and the crew wraps with binge-worthy recommendations for your next couch night. If you're tired of chasing more and ready to figure out what enough actually looks like, this episode is required listening. What You'll Walk Away With: • Why spending money well is a psychological skill, not a math problem—and how to develop it • What Morgan learned about wealth and misery from parking cars for millionaires in their driveways • The hidden drivers behind your financial decisions (and how to spot them before they derail you) • Why contentment—not consumption—is the real key to long-term happiness • What true financial independence actually means (hint: it's not a number in your bank account) • How Warren Buffett's approach to retirement reveals timeless principles about money and legacy • Simple guiding principles to help you spend smarter and live calmer This Episode Is For You If: • You've hit financial goals but still don't feel satisfied • You're tired of spending money on things that don't actually make you happier • You want to understand why you make the money decisions you do (even the questionable ones) • You're curious what actually separates people who enjoy their money from people who just have it • You believe there's more to financial success than just accumulating more Before You Hit Play, Think About This: What's one purchase you made that brought way more joy than its price tag would suggest—and can you figure out why? That's the kind of spending Morgan's talking about. Drop your answer in the comments—the basement wants to hear what actually brought you happiness. FULL SHOW NOTES: https://www.stackingbenjamins.com/the-art-of-spending-money-with-morgan-housel-1769/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In this solo episode, I share highlights from The Art of Spending Money by Morgan Housel. I talk about getting what you want vs. what you need, how money shapes our independence, and why the book hit me at the right time. I also get into how our upbringing, culture, and past struggles influence our every financial decision. One of my favorite quotes from the book is: "Personal finance is more personal than finance."I also discuss why admiration rarely comes from material things, and how understanding someone's background can make their behavior [with money] make sense. The ultimate goal is this: Spend money in ways that reflect who you are, not who you're trying to impress.There's also an update from "the best movie ever." Political leaks and immigration failures, civil–conflict warnings, media fraud, the Seditious Six, Afghan vetting disasters, political polarization, and much more.

In this special episode, we sit down with Chris Hill, former host and executive producer of Motley Fool Money and one of the most recognized voices in investing. Over his 25-year career at The Motley Fool, Chris co-created five shows about money and investing, hosted more than 3,500 episodes, and interviewed some of the biggest names in business and finance—including Malcolm Gladwell, Michael Lewis, Dan Pink, Becky Quick, and Mark Cuban.Chris is also the narrator of Morgan Housel's international bestseller The Psychology of Money and its New York Times best-selling follow-up Same As Ever. His audiobook narration of The Psychology of Money reached #1 on Audible's Nonfiction bestseller list in 2023.Join us as Chris shares insights from decades of experience, his approach to simplifying investing for beginners, and his thoughts on building financial confidence for retirement. Whether you're just starting your investment journey or preparing for life after work, this episode delivers practical wisdom and inspiration.Timestamps:00:00 – Intro03:03 – Chris Hill's Journey to The Motley Fool08:07 – Money Unplugged Podcast: The Mission, Memorable Moments, & Core Audience18:04 – Simplifying Investing: Chris Hill's Approach20:56 – Investing Recommendations for TRS Members26:04 – Most Common Investing Mistakes Influenced by Fear28:27 – Chris Hill's ETF Choices: Buy, Add To, & Hold Forever31:56 – Making Investment Decisions: The “Circle of Competence”35:18 – Chris Hill's Three Stock Choices: Buy Now & Hold Forever40:19 – Why Consumers Should Read Morgan Housel's “The Art of Spending Money” 44:45 – Finding the Balance: Being Financially Prudent vs. Splurging51:11 – Last Words & Finding Money Unplugged53:57 – OutroAre you about to retire? If you haven't had the chance to meet with us one-on-one in a virtual or in-person format, and are within 2 years of retirement eligibility, be sure to log in to your TRS account online and register for a session today! Are you new to TRS or in the middle of your career? Be sure to designate your beneficiaries as soon as possible in your TRS online account. We want to hear from our members! Please email the show for topic inquiries, questions and comments! Contact us at ⁠⁠⁠⁠podcast@trsga.com⁠⁠⁠⁠. Host: Everett Crockett Guest: Chris Hill, Host of Money Unplugged, Former Host & Executive Producer of Motley Fool PodcastFor more information visit: ⁠⁠⁠⁠www.trsga.com⁠⁠⁠⁠ Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/trsgeorgia⁠⁠⁠⁠ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@trsgeorgiaInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/trsgeorgia/#RetirementPlanning #PensionPodcasts #RetirementThis podcast is for information purposes only and should not be considered financial, legal, or tax advice. The views and opinions expressed are those of the speakers and may not reflect the views of the Teachers Retirement System of Georgia.

Morgan Housel explains why real wealth isn't about what you buy but about what you appreciate. Then BU's Lawrence Kotlikoff offers practical financial tips.

This episode discusses the complexity of Love. The Good Read for this episode is Same as Ever: A Guide to What Never Changes by Morgan HouseEvery investment plan under the sun is, at best, an informed speculation of what may happen in the future, based on a systematic extrapolation from the known past.Same as Ever reverses the process, inviting us to identify the many things that never, ever change.With his usual elan, Morgan Housel presents a master class on optimizing risk, seizing opportunity, and living your best life. Through a sequence of engaging stories and pithy examples, he shows how we can use our newfound grasp of the unchanging to see around corners, not by squinting harder through the uncertain landscape of the future, but by looking backwards, being more broad-sighted, and focusing instead on what is permanently true.   By doing so, we may better anticipate the big stuff, and achieve the greatest success, not merely financial comforts, but most importantly, a life well lived.What's Popping in Vell's World includes How to Help Jamaica Rebuild After Hurricane Melissa, When Your Government Goes Offline: What the 2025 U.S. Government Shutdown Means for Black America, RunDisney Wine & Dine Half Marathon Weekend, and more.Follow on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ @VellsWorldPodcast.Email vellsworldpodcast@ldmonger.com with any comments, questions, or concerns you want to mention in our upcoming episodes. To sponsor an episode, send us an email. Don't forget to subscribe, tell a friend, and follow us on all social media platforms.

In this special episode of Office Hours, Scott Galloway brings back Morgan Housel to answer your questions on “enough,” financial independence, and the art of spending. They discuss why our money goals keep moving, how to know when you can slow down, and why saving is really about buying independence, not things. Morgan also explains why holding extra cash can be a smart emotional hedge, while Scott shares how he spends today and what he wishes he'd known earlier. Morgan's latest book, The Art of Spending Money: Simple Choices for a Richer Life, is out now. Want to be featured in a future episode? Send a voice recording to officehours@profgmedia.com, or drop your question in the r/ScottGalloway subreddit. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Discover all of the podcasts in our network, search for specific episodes, get the Optimal Living Daily workbook, and learn more at: OLDPodcast.com. Episode 3349: Jesse Cramer unpacks the underestimated power of "room for error" as a life and investing strategy, drawing insights from Morgan Housel, Charlie Munger, and Howard Marks. Instead of chasing peak performance, Cramer advocates for avoiding disaster, building resilience, and prioritizing consistency, especially when stress can derail even the best-laid plans. Read along with the original article(s) here: https://bestinterest.blog/room-for-error/ Quotes to ponder: "In investing and in life, prioritize avoidance of terrible situations." "Room for error lets you stick around long enough to let the odds of benefiting from a low-probability outcome fall in your favor." "Invest! Harness the power of humanity's economic engine and compound returns." Episode references: The Power of Inversion: https://fs.blog/inversion/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this special episode of Office Hours, Scott brings on Morgan Housel, bestselling author of The Psychology of Money, to take your questions on love, parenting, and financial independence. They discuss how income gaps affect relationships, the moral gray zone of college admissions consulting, and why the best investment you can make in your 20s isn't in stocks — it's in habits. Morgan's latest book, The Art of Spending Money: Simple Choices for a Richer Life, is out now. Want to be featured in a future episode? Send a voice recording to officehours@profgmedia.com, or drop your question in the r/ScottGalloway subreddit. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

We are discussing Morgan Housel's new book, The Art of Spending Money, and exploring the psychological and practical challenges of how we spend money to maximize happiness and utility. We dive into the core concepts of the book, contrasting the typical financial focus on accumulation with the crucial art of mindful spending. We discuss how our individual life experiences deeply influence our money stories, leading to the insight that "all behavior makes sense with enough information." The discussion includes a debate on whether spending is driven by genuine utility or simply the desire to impress others, and the powerful role of managing expectations as a key to increasing contentment and wealth. Get the full show notes, show references, and more information here:

"The best use of money is a tool to leverage who you are, but never to define who you are."—Morgan Housel, author of The Art of Spending Money If you ever want to know what a culture values, what a country values, look at their tax laws. I will never forget the wisdom shared by Martin Ginsberg, a tax attorney and the husband of Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, on how a country's subsidies reveal the guiding values of its populace through tax breaks or credits. I share this because, simply because it is the law, but that doesn't mean it needs to be the law that guides your life principles. Similarly, we see titles for the Richest person under 30, or a list of the world's billionaires on the cover of countless magazines each year, and again, they wouldn't create the list and place it on the cover if it didn't sell. Yet again, the bustling culture projected in the media supports the culture they need to stay in business or to remain in office. This doesn't answer the question of what it means to live a fulfilling life—a life of contentment. I start with this point because it would be understandable to mistakenly think that having more money, having the latest trend of décor, clothing, [fill in the blank for the latest trend of anything seen or discussed on social media, television, publications, etc.] is the path to a better life. But the truth is, there is no concrete formula, and your most successful approach to financial freedom, once you have learned the basics of money management, will be unique to your life journey and the lifestyle that nourishes you. And there in lies the art of spending money. As we know there are countless books on financial guidance, and having read many of them over the decades, there are constant contradictions, alongside worthwhile bits of wisdom and expertise. Often in the same book. In today's episode/post, I am going to be pulling quotes from a recent book that was published, The Art of Spending Money by Morgan Housel, however, this books falls into that category I just mentioned. And my approach to extrapolating useful insights follows his own advice, have a strong filter. We'll talk about that more later the final point on this list, but essentially, apply critical thinking skills to any book you read, bringing to the table your previous experience and knowledge, so you can know with clarity what is worth grabbing and applying to your life and what is not. Overarchingly, Housel offers an abundance of wisdom, much of which aligns with living a life of contentment, and that is why I wanted to bring you this list of how to finesse the art of spending. "Money itself doesn't buy happiness, but it can help you find independence and purpose—both key ingredients for a happier life if you cultivate them." —Morgan Housel How we choose to spend our money is personal, it is something we must make with an independent mind that is wise in knowing when we don't know something about our finances and to find experts in the fields we need to better understand. With sound money management skills – budgeting, savings, retirement – topics that have each been discussed at length in the many posts found in TSLL's Money Archived posts, we can now explore how to best spend our money to live the life that supports, nourishes and brings us peace of mind. Let's explore 13 ways to do just that.   ~Find the Show Notes for this episode on The Simply Luxurious Life blog - https://thesimplyluxuriouslife.com/podcast413 

Go to www.LearningLeader.com for full show notes This is brought to you by Insight Global. If you need to hire one person, hire a team of people, or transform your business through Talent or Technical Services, Insight Global's team of 30,000 people around the world has the hustle and grit to deliver. My guest: James Clear is the author of one of the most influential books of our generation, Atomic Habits. He's sold over 25 million copies worldwide and has helped millions of people transform their lives through the power of small changes. We brought the podcast to the campus of Ohio University, where we recorded live in front of 250 of the most impressive college students I've ever met. Notes: I loved the Morgan Housel moment - It was cool to see James' reaction to it (you can watch it on YouTube.com/RyanHawk). Morgan said, "I have absolutely not a single cell of envy for him. Because he is the nicest guy you will ever meet. You will not meet a nicer human than James Clear. You will not meet someone as successful as he is and as humble as he is. He is a saint in my life. And because of that, I adore every bit of this guy, so I cannot envy him. I am just inspired by his success, full stop." We should all strive to be that for the people in our lives. Your WHO - "Every opportunity in life comes through a person. Relationships are usually the most important thing. If you want to achieve more, there is a relationship that can unlock better results. If you want to make a meaningful contribution, helping others is a great way to do it. If you sim Willpower – 'People with tremendous self-control aren't that different from those who struggle. They're simply better at structuring their lives in a way that doesn't require heroic willpower.' It's not about determination, it's about design. That's liberating. Fall in Love with the Process - "When you fall in love with the process rather than the product, you don't have to wait to give yourself permission to be happy. You can be satisfied anytime your system is running. And a system can be successful in many different forms, not just the one you first envision." Make It Obvious, Easy, Attractive, Satisfying - The four laws of behavior change: make good habits obvious and bad habits invisible, make good habits easy and bad habits difficult, make good habits attractive and bad habits unattractive, make good habits satisfying and bad habits unsatisfying. Use the Two-Minute Rule - Scale any habit down to something that takes two minutes or less. Want to read more? Read one page. Want to run a marathon? Put on your running shoes. The goal is to master showing up and make the entry point as easy as possible. Standardize Before You Optimize - You can't improve a habit that doesn't exist. Master the art of showing up before worrying about optimization. Build consistency first, then work on increasing the dose or improving performance. Track Your Habits Visually - I use a paper clip strategy: start each day with 120 paper clips in one jar, move one to another jar each time I complete a writing session. Visual tracking provides clear evidence of progress and makes the habit satisfying. Habits Need to Match Your Personality - There's no one-size-fits-all approach. Morning people and night owls need different strategies. Work with your natural tendencies, not against them. Choose habits and contexts that align with who you already are. Create Commitment Devices - Make bad habits difficult through commitment devices. I had my assistant change my social media passwords every Monday and only give them back on Fridays. This eliminated mindless scrolling during my productive work hours. Focus on Systems, Not Goals - Winners and losers have the same goals. The difference is their systems. Goals are about the results you want to achieve; systems are about the processes that lead to those results. Fall in love with the process, not the outcome. Build Habits That Align With Your Desired Identity - I wanted to be a writer, so I wrote every Monday and Thursday for years. Eventually, I had proof. I couldn't deny I was a writer because of the body of work I'd created. Your habits are how you embody your identity. The Plateau of Latent Potential - We expect progress to be linear, but it's not. Habits often appear to make no difference until you cross a critical threshold. You need to persist long enough to get through the plateau and break through to the other side. Reduce Friction for Good Habits - I want to work out more, so I lay out my workout clothes the night before. When I wake up, they're the first thing I see. The easier you make the habit, the more likely you are to do it. Increase Friction for Bad Habits - Want to watch less TV? Unplug it after each use and put the remote in another room. The added friction makes the bad habit less appealing and gives you a moment to make a better choice. Automate Good Decisions - Technology can lock in good behavior. I set up automatic transfers to my investment account. Once the system is in place, the good behavior happens without requiring willpower or decision-making energy. Student Questions  On Building Habits in College - The mess of college is actually useful because you're forced to figure out who you are. Use this time to experiment with different habits and see what sticks. You have more flexibility now than you will later in life. On Breaking Bad Habits - Trying to eliminate a bad habit without replacing it with something else is really hard. The more sustainable approach is habit substitution. If you want to stop scrolling social media, replace it with reading for five minutes instead. On Staying Consistent - Never miss twice. Missing once is an accident; missing twice is the start of a new habit. Elite performers aren't consistent because they're more disciplined—they have better strategies for getting back on track quickly when life happens. On Finding Your Purpose - I think the idea of finding your purpose is misleading. You don't find your purpose; you build it through the habits you practice daily. Your life is essentially a collection of your habits, so if you want a different life, build different habits. On Overcoming Setbacks - After my accident, I had to redefine what success looked like. Sometimes progress means recovering what you lost rather than reaching new heights. Focus on what you can control today rather than what you wish you could control. On Reading and Learning - I read across many disciplines because insights often come from connecting ideas from different fields. Read widely, take notes, and revisit those notes regularly. The goal isn't to finish books—it's to find ideas that change how you think. On Building a Writing Practice - I published twice per week for years before anything took off. Most people overestimate what they can accomplish in one year and underestimate what they can accomplish in ten years. Show up consistently and let time do the heavy lifting. Reflection Questions Are you focused on achieving goals or building systems? What's one process you could improve this week that would make your desired outcomes more likely? What's one habit you want to build? Can you make it so easy that you can't say no—something that takes two minutes or less? How can you design your environment to make this habit obvious and attractive? Which of your current habits align with the identity you want to build? What small votes can you cast today through your actions to prove to yourself who you want to become? Former Episodes Referenced #529 - James Clear - Becoming an Optimist, Creating Your System, & Setting Up Your Future Self #655 - Morgan Housel - The Simple Formula For Happiness, Betting on Others, & Gaining Independence & Purpose #594 - Charles Duhigg - Becoming a Super Communicator #470 - Daniel Coyle - Building Your Culture, Solving Hard Problems, & Winning The Learning Contest #428 - James Clear - Asking Better Questions, Taking Action, & Doing A+ Work Episode Timestamps: 02:20 High Praise from Morgan Housel  04:08 Winning the St. Gallen Symposium & James' College Experience 07:00 The Strategy Behind Writing Atomic Habits  13:58 Designing Your Environment for Success  31:05 The Art of Building Genuine Relationships  39:00 Clarifying Your Thoughts Through Writing  40:11 Applying Atomic Habits to Leadership  41:04 Mental Performance Techniques from a Navy SEAL  43:31 Balancing Success and Personal Life  47:56 The Importance of Reflection and Review  51:10 Adapting Habits in Different Environments 55:19 Habits for Short-Term Goals vs Long-Term Goals  01:04:27 Using Feedback for Habit Building  01:07:55 Internal Dialogue While Building Habits 01:13:28 The Influence of Others on Forming Your Habits 01:17:01 EOPC

What makes the U.S. consumer and investor unique? Are we biologically programmed to be dissatisfied? Should you want your kids to be poor? Morgan Housel answers those questions and provides insights from his latest book, The Art of Spending. Also in this episode: -International stocks have notched a 30% gain so far this year-The Fed cut rates but dampened expectations for December-The job market is always in flux, as demonstrated by a slew of recent layoffs-The most tax-efficient way to give to charities may be donating appreciated shares of stock Host: Robert BrokampGuest: Morgan HouselEngineer: Bart Shannon  Disclosure: Advertisements are sponsored content and provided for informational purposes only. The Motley Fool and its affiliates (collectively, “TMF”) do not endorse, recommend, or verify the accuracy or completeness of the statements made within advertisements. TMF is not involved in the offer, sale, or solicitation of any securities advertised herein and makes no representations regarding the suitability, or risks associated with any investment opportunity presented. Investors should conduct their own due diligence and consult with legal, tax, and financial advisors before making any investment decisions. TMF assumes no responsibility for any losses or damages arising from this advertisement. We're committed to transparency: All personal opinions in advertisements from Fools are their own. The product advertised in this episode was loaned to TMF and was returned after a test period or the product advertised in this episode was purchased by TMF. Advertiser has paid for the sponsorship of this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On this episode of Animal Spirits: Talk Your Book, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Michael Batnick⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Ben Carlson⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ are joined by Morgan Housel, author of “The Art of Spending Money,” to discuss: Lambos, tipping, travel, spending your money with a purpose and his new book. This episode is brought to you by VanEck. Learn more about the VanEck Rare Earth and Strategic Metals ETF: http://vaneck.com/REMXCompound Find complete show notes on our blogs... Ben Carlson's ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠A Wealth of Common Sense⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Michael Batnick's ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Irrelevant Investor⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Feel free to shoot us an email at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠animalspirits@thecompoundnews.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ with any feedback, questions, recommendations, or ideas for future topics of conversation. Check out the latest in financial blogger fashion at The Compound shop: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://idontshop.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Investing involves the risk of loss. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be or regarded as personalized investment advice or relied upon for investment decisions. Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson are employees of Ritholtz Wealth Management and may maintain positions in the securities discussed in this video. All opinions expressed by them are solely their own opinion and do not reflect the opinion of Ritholtz Wealth Management. See our disclosures here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://ritholtzwealth.com/podcast-youtube-disclosures/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ The Compound Media, Incorporated, an affiliate of ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Ritholtz Wealth Management⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, receives payment from various entities for advertisements in affiliated podcasts, blogs and emails. Inclusion of such advertisements does not constitute or imply endorsement, sponsorship or recommendation thereof, or any affiliation therewith, by the Content Creator or by Ritholtz Wealth Management or any of its employees. For additional advertisement disclaimers see here ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://ritholtzwealth.com/advertising-disclaimers⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Morgan Housel is a partner at Collaborative Fund, blogger about behavior and money, and author of The Psychology of Money. The book has sold 4.5 million copies since its release three and a half years ago and already ranks in the top five best-selling books about finance. Morgan recently published his second book, Same As Ever: A Guide to What Never Changes. Our conversation starts with what happened since his last appearance on the show just before the release of The Psychology of Money. We then turn to his latest magnum opus and discuss some of its themes and stories across storytelling, expectations, compounding, risk, incentives, and people. Morgan's wisdom, humility, and passion for his work come out in spades. He also happens to be a wonderful person and dear friend. Learn More Follow Ted on Twitter at @tseides or LinkedIn Subscribe to the mailing list Access Transcript with Premium Membership   Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant (⁠https://thepodcastconsultant.com⁠)

Morgan Housel is a bestselling author, partner at Collaborative Fund, and Board member of Markel. Morgan's work focuses on the intersection of human behavior and financial decision making. His first book, The Psychology of Money, has sold 10 million copies since releasing five years ago and is already one of the best-selling investment books of all time. His second, Same as Ever, explores human behaviors that never change, and is rapidly approaching 1 million copies sold. Our conversation discusses Morgan's latest work, The Art of Spending Money: Simple Choices for a Richer Life. I wanted to get him back on the show to share his thoughts on a subject that affects us all. But I wasn't expecting to have my mind turning on how Morgan's insights about envy, aspiration, and contentment also apply to the assessment of money managers and corporate executives. His recently released book is another tour de force, and I suspect, once again, will soon hit the best seller list. From our sponsor, Morningstar Embrace the global language of investment data Learn More Follow Ted on Twitter at @tseides or LinkedIn Subscribe to the mailing list Access Transcript with Premium Membership   Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant (⁠https://thepodcastconsultant.com⁠)

On today's episode, Clay is joined by Morgan Housel to discuss his newest book, The Art of Spending Money — Simple Choices for a Richer Life.  Morgan Housel is a partner at The Collaborative Fund. He's the New York Times Bestselling author of The Psychology of Money and Same As Ever. His books have sold over 8 million copies and have been translated into more than 50 languages. He also serves on the board of directors at Markel. IN THIS EPISODE YOU'LL LEARN: 00:00 - Intro 02:04 - The intersection of money and happiness 06:08 - Why Buffett's inner scorecard can empower us to use money as a tool instead of letting money use us 20:40 - Why the happiest people we know are oftentimes the most content 28:40 - Why chasing status is a game you'll never be able to win 30:34 - Dopamine's role in how we spend our money 35:27 - Why not all of our big spending decisions need to be run through a spreadsheet 38:06 - The shocking story of how the Vanderbilts lost billions of dollars due to social debt 46:46 - Why Morgan highly prioritizes spending money on independence And so much more! Disclaimer: Slight discrepancies in the timestamps may occur due to podcast platform differences. BOOKS AND RESOURCES Join the exclusive ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TIP Mastermind Community⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to engage in meaningful stock investing discussions with Stig, Clay, Kyle, and the other community members. Morgan's new book: The Art of Spending Money. Morgan's other books: Same as Ever and The Psychology of Money. Morgan's Podcast. Related Episode: TIP351: The Psychology of Money w/ Morgan Housel. Related Episode: TIP602: Same as Ever w/ Morgan Housel. Follow Morgan on X. Follow Clay on ⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠ & ⁠⁠X⁠⁠. Related ⁠⁠books⁠⁠ mentioned in the podcast. Ad-free episodes on our ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Premium Feed⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. NEW TO THE SHOW? Get smarter about valuing businesses in just a few minutes each week through our newsletter, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Intrinsic Value Newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Check out our ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠We Study Billionaires Starter Packs⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Follow our official social media accounts: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠X (Twitter)⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TikTok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Browse through all our episodes (complete with transcripts) ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Try our tool for picking stock winners and managing our portfolios: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TIP Finance Tool⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Enjoy exclusive perks from our ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠favorite Apps and Services⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Learn how to better start, manage, and grow your business with the ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠best business podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. SPONSORS Support our free podcast by supporting our ⁠⁠⁠sponsors⁠⁠⁠: Simple Mining⁠ ⁠Human Rights Foundation⁠ ⁠Kubera⁠ ⁠HardBlock⁠ ⁠LinkedIn Talent Solutions⁠ ⁠Unchained⁠ ⁠Vanta⁠ ⁠Shopify⁠ ⁠NetSuite⁠ ⁠Onramp⁠ ⁠Public.com⁠ ⁠Abundant Mines⁠ ⁠Horizon Support our show by becoming a premium member! ⁠⁠https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm

A Note from JamesI'm such a fan of this guy. I loved The Psychology of Money — it felt like he was writing directly about me. I've made a lot of money, lost it all, made it again, lost it again. Over and over. And Morgan gets it.His new book, The Art of Spending Money, hits even deeper. It's not just about being rich; it's about freedom, simplicity, and contentment — the real returns of life. Every word of this conversation is a reminder that money is never about money. It's about independence.Episode DescriptionIn this episode, James sits down with bestselling author Morgan Housel (The Psychology of Money, Same as Ever, The Art of Spending Money) to explore how wealth, happiness, and identity intersect.They talk about why most people spend money to impress strangers who aren't even paying attention, why saving isn't “delayed gratification,” and why independence is the ultimate luxury.Housel and Altucher go beyond finance — into psychology, meaning, and what happens when your identity gets tied up in your success. This is one of the most personal and useful conversations you'll hear about money this year.What You'll LearnWhy the goal of money isn't happiness — it's contentment.How to “purchase independence” instead of possessions.The hidden trap of social signaling and lifestyle inflation.How to build a healthy “psychology of money” that lasts through boom and bust.Why compounding memories might be more valuable than compounding interest.Timestamped Chapters[02:00] “Saving is purchasing independence.”[02:29] Happiness vs. contentment — why wealth brings fewer bad days, not more good ones.[03:00] A Note from James: how Morgan's books mirror his own financial rollercoaster.[04:01] The social trap of spending for admiration.[05:19] Why signaling is universal — and why we overestimate who's watching.[06:29] The three skills of money: making, keeping, and growing it.[07:02] Saving as joy, not sacrifice: how independence is pleasure in the present.[09:08] Why wealth means fewer bad days, not more good ones.[10:00] The quest for the simple life — why simplicity equals freedom.[11:04] James's minimalist experiment: life with one backpack.[12:00] The billionaire's regret — Harvey Firestone and the mansion paradox.[14:15] The psychology of downgrades and why people can't go back.[15:40] Who are you trying to impress? The six people who actually matter.[17:21] Money as a tool vs. money as a scoreboard.[18:35] Why the desire for status falls when you find meaning elsewhere.[21:30] The fear of losing freedom — and how it drives bad decisions.[23:00] Even billionaires worry about losing it all — why fear never goes away.[25:11] Are we wired to worry about money? Nature vs. nurture in financial behavior.[27:39] Envy as outsourced thinking — how jealousy hijacks your decisions.[30:00] The five-minute rule: happiness never lasts, contentment does.[32:00] Saving in your 20s — when it matters and when it doesn't.[33:51] The habits that stick: why early saving teaches independence.[35:29] Why the best memories come when you have the least money.[37:07] Scarcity, gratitude, and why effort creates value.[38:35] Wiping the slate clean: how to escape identity traps.[40:00] Retirement, identity loss, and why former athletes struggle.[42:25] “Keep your identity small.” — lessons from Paul Graham and Tim Ferriss.[45:00] When obsession fuels creation — how James moves between identities.[49:22] Sticking with one thing vs. exploring many — the range paradox.[51:25] The barbell of wisdom: compounding stability vs. compounding experiences.[53:27] The compounding of memories — why they may outlast wealth.[55:15] Simplicity, location, and the emotional geography of memory.Additional Resources

How you walk doesn't just reflect your mood — it can actually shape it. Research shows that adjusting your stride can boost happiness, and even a short walk outside could be the smartest thing you do today. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/10/141015143259.htm When it comes to spending money, one-size-fits-all advice doesn't work. Should you spend on experiences? Travel? Things? The truth is, the way money makes you happy depends on you. Joining me to explore this is Morgan Housel, partner at The Collaborative Fund, award-winning journalist, and author of The Art of Spending Money: Simple Choices for a Richer Life (https://amzn.to/4gxSGrd). He reveals how your spending choices can bring real joy — or quietly sabotage your happiness. History is full of stories we've all been told — and many of them are flat-out wrong. Did slaves build the pyramids? Was Pong the first video game? Were people in the Middle Ages dirty and unwashed? Not even close. My guest, Jo Hedwig Teeuwisse — better known as The Fake History Hunter — has been debunking false historical “facts” for more than 20 years. She's the author of Fake History: 101 Things that Never Happened (https://amzn.to/46tN7FC), and she's here to set the record straight. And finally, what's the real cost of a little white lie? You might think small lies are harmless, but science shows even tiny untruths can damage your health and relationships. I'll explain why honesty really is the best policy. https://research.nd.edu/news/32485-study-telling-fewer-lies-linked-to-better-health-relationships/ PLEASE SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS!!! INDEED: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to get your jobs more visibility at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://Indeed.com/SOMETHING⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ right now! DELL: Your new Dell PC with Intel Core Ultra helps you handle a lot when your holiday to-dos get to be…a lot. Upgrade today by visiting⁠⁠⁠ https://Dell.com/Deals⁠⁠⁠ QUINCE: Layer up this fall with pieces that feel as good as they look! Go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://Quince.com/sysk⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ for free shipping on your order and 365 day returns! SHOPIFY: Shopify is the commerce platform for millions of businesses around the world! To start selling today, sign up for your $1 per month trial at⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://Shopify.com/sysk⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices