Podcast appearances and mentions of Jimmy Butler

Dubs OT with John Dickinson: Jimmy Butler's near triple double helps the Warriors get past the Pelicans without Steph.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Warriors get the win over the Pelicans 104-96, The Warriors welcome back Kevon Looney who is now on the Pelicans, The Warriors offensive and defensive adjustments, Gary Payton II and his impact on the game, Jimmy Butler controlling the floor, Podziemski scoring and more!

New Orleans Pelicans vs. Golden St Warriors NBA Pick Prediction by Tony T. Pelicans vs. Warriors Injuries Hawkins, Jones, Matkovic, Murray and Poole are out for New Orleans with Murphy questionable. Curry, Horford and Curry are out for GSW with Kuminga questionable. Payton is probable. Recent Box Score Key Stats Pelicans at Warriors 8:30PM ET—New Orleans fell to 3-16 following their 133-128 home defeat to Memphis. The Pelicans shot 50% with 42% from three. Jose Alvarado led off the bench with 24 points and five rebounds. Saddiq Bey chipped in with 18 points with ten rebounds. New Orleans allowed 54% shooting with 46% from three. Golden St fell to 10-10 after their 104-100 home defeat to Houston. The Warriors shot 43% with 28% from three. Jimmy Butler scored 21 points with five assists. Will Richards chipped in with 18 points with six rebounds. Golden St allowed 39% shooting with 28% from three.

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Send us a textIn this episode, I retell my conversation with Jared Truby one that I  lost to a recording error but the ideas, the flavors, and the lessons were too good to let disappear. So here it is: a narrative reconstruction of everything we discussed, from experimental ferments to Steph Curry's gravitational genius, from culture-building to trend-chasing, and the art of staying relevant in your craft.☕ Part 1 — The Cup That Started It AllJared talks about tasting every roast weekly, why relationships define Cat & Cloud, and the rise of “pink champagne” ferments reshaping flavor boundaries.

The Golden State Warriors blow out the Utah Jazz 134-117 behind Steph Curry, Jimmy Butler and Buddy Hield.On "Dubs Talk" Monte Poole and Dalton Johnson break down the much-needed victory before looking ahead to the tougher matchups ahead with the Houston Rockets and the Oklahoma City Thunder coming to town.(02:00) - Takeaways from the Warriors' blowout 134-117 win over the Utah Jazz(08:45) - Warriors understand the importance of home-court in playoffs, so they can't drop the easy ones(10:45) - Draymond Green is questionable vs. Rockets, Jonathan Kuminga is out, as both are trending in the right directions(11:30) - Clarity for Kuminga could be coming on multiple fronts(14:45) - Steve Kerr knows Warriors could use more size(24:15) - Buddy Hield's game against the Jazz was a huge lift for him(27:30) - Warriors are now 1-1 on this five-game homestand, but Houston and OKC are coming(30:00) - When fully healthy, who will be the Warriors starters? Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

The guys explore Pat Riley's legendary career, from his high school and college days to his NBA playing, coaching, and executive accomplishments, highlighting how he helped shape modern basketball. They discuss how his influence continues to resonate with the Miami Heat, a team now thriving on good vibes and team-first basketball. Joe says the Heat are better off without Jimmy Butler and calls him out for disrespecting Riley, emphasizing that the team's success reflects the culture Riley built

The guys break down the Miami Hurricanes' must-win matchup against Pitt, stressing that a big performance from Carson Beck is crucial as the Canes' run game continues to struggle. They shift to the Dolphins, highlighting a favorable stretch on the schedule and the importance of Achane and Waddle in the offense, while noting Tua's mistakes but reaffirming him as the best option to win games. AFC playoff implications are also discussed, including how the Steelers' fate could hinge on a future Dolphins game and the struggles of teams like the Jaguars and Chiefs. The hour wraps with a look at Pat Riley's legendary career, from his playing days to his impact as a coach and executive, while Joe calls out Jimmy Butler and says the Heat are better off without him, praising the team-first culture Riley established.

The guys dive into the Lane Kiffin sweepstakes and break down the latest College Football Playoff rankings, including Miami's path and why the Hurricanes must beat Pitt behind a big performance from Carson Beck. They mix in Thanksgiving food debates before shifting to Richmond Webb and Frank Gore headlining the NFL Hall of Fame finalists and revisiting the steroid-era controversies in baseball. The conversation turns to the Dolphins' favorable stretch, the Hurricanes' must-win keys, and Pat Riley's legendary impact on the Heat — with Joe saying Miami is better off without Jimmy Butler. Joe and Dave also examine quarterback needs across the NFL, preview the Thanksgiving matchups, and spotlight Matthew Stafford's MVP-caliber season. Brian Baldinger and Mike Florio join the show to preview Cowboys–Chiefs, discuss NFL drama, and weigh in on Miami's playoff stakes if the Canes get past Pitt.

The guys break down the Miami Heat's strong 12-6 start, including their dominant 8-1 record at home. Kel'el Ware is starting to click and catch fire, while Bam Adebayo embodies the Heat's workmanlike identity, saying “I'll outwork anybody.” They discuss why Jimmy Butler wouldn't fit in the current system, how the Eastern Conference is wide open, and the value of the team's homegrown talent driving Miami's success

The guys break down the Miami Heat's hot start, highlighting their 12-6 record and dominant 8-1 mark at home. Kel'el Ware is starting to click, Bam Adebayo continues to define the team's workmanlike identity, and the value of homegrown talent is front and center, with discussion on why Jimmy Butler wouldn't fit this system and how wide open the Eastern Conference is. Chris Perkins joins to analyze the Miami Dolphins, urging a full rebuild, stressing the urgency of re-signing De'Von Achane, and discussing the intricacies of the GM search, including whether to retain Tua Tagovailoa and Mike McDaniel or allow a new GM to bring in their own personnel.

Utah Jazz vs. Golden St Warriors NBA Pick Prediction by Tony T. Jazz vs. Warriors Injuries Niang is out for Utah. Horford, Kuminga and Melton are out for GSW with Green questionable. Recent Box Score Key Stats Jazz at Warriors 10PM ET— Utah is on a back-to-back after hosting the Lakers on Sunday. Golden St drops to 9-9 after their 127-123 home defeat to Portland. The Warriors shot 48% with 40% from three. Jimmy Butler scored 20 points with eight rebounds. Brandin Podziemski came off the bench with 20 points and three rebounds. GSW allowed 48% shooting with 36% from three.

The best conversations about the Heat this week from The Joe Rose Show, Tobin & Leroy, and Hochman, Crowder & Solana. Reacting to the Warriors coming to town to face the Heat, but neither Jimmy Butler nor Steph Curry playing

This week's best-of features Omar Kelly and Kyle Crabbs breaking down the Dolphins' win in Spain, the state of the team, and what the future could look like in Miami. Alex Donno joins to sort through the latest in college football and what needs to happen for the Hurricanes to make a push toward the College Football Playoff. Plus, Joe sounds off on Jimmy Butler, Steph Curry, and the growing trend of NBA stars sitting out games for load management

The best conversations about the Heat this week from The Joe Rose Show, Tobin & Leroy, and Hochman, Crowder & Solana. Reacting to the Warriors coming to town to face the Heat, but neither Jimmy Butler nor Steph Curry playing

The best conversations about the Heat this week from The Joe Rose Show, Tobin & Leroy, and Hochman, Crowder & Solana. Reacting to the Warriors coming to town to face the Heat, but neither Jimmy Butler nor Steph Curry playing

Warriors lose to the Trailblazers 127-123, the Warriors struggled with turnovers, rebounds and defensive stops, Steph Curry, Jimmy Butler and Brandin Podziemski lead the team in scoring, Trailblazers players locked in, Steve Kerr roster lineups and more!

Dirty Work Hour 2: Copes and D-Pop bring on two chefs from the Mauna Kea hotel to talk about the high-end cuisine offered at the resort. The guys review the Warriors' six-game road trip, including the 110-96 loss in Miami without Stephen Curry, Jimmy Butler and Draymond Green. They end the hour talking about Jonathan Kuminga's place in the Warriors' rotation and if they feel like Kuminga is a scapegoat.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Dirty Work Hour 2: Copes and D-Pop bring on two chefs from the Mauna Kea hotel to talk about the high-end cuisine offered at the resort. The guys review the Warriors' six-game road trip, including the 110-96 loss in Miami without Stephen Curry, Jimmy Butler and Draymond Green. They end the hour talking about Jonathan Kuminga's place in the Warriors' rotation and if they feel like Kuminga is a scapegoat.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Steiny is back so he and Guru through what they missed in Florida, the Warriors old vs. youth movement, what Jimmy Butler has brought to the table, preparing for Portland, and Brock Purdy's expectations for a Monday Night game against Carolina. Plus, Warriors legend Rick Barry joins the show at 11:00a!

Jimmy Butler dodges the entire Heat roster after his Warriors lost last night. Gino Torretta shares his take on the CFP committee ranking the Hurricanes at 13. A history lesson on why a football field is called “the Gridiron”.

In hour four, a shocking turn of events in the WQAM fantasy football league. Explaining why tomorrow's Heat game in Chicago is a must win. Is Jimmy Butler getting his jersey retired by the Miami Heat?

In hour one, Crowder's experience on ESPN's First Take today. Jimmy Butler leaves the court following the Heat win and ignores the entire Heat roster. Gino Torretta discusses the ACC's lack of respect from the College Football Playoff committee.

Solana rips Jimmy Butler for leaving the court following last night's final buzzer after the Heat beat the Warriors.

Hour 1 opens with Joe sounding off on Jimmy Butler and Stephen Curry sitting out against the Heat, blasting the NBA's load-management era and reminding listeners that Michael Jordan never would've done it. Joe says the Warriors essentially threw in the towel and then pivots to praising South Florida coaching giants Erik Spoelstra and Paul Maurice. We preview Bills–Texans on Thursday Night Football, including Gabe Davis stepping in as WR1 and rookie Keon Coleman being a healthy scratch for missing team meetings. The hour closes with Albert Breer's report tying Brandon Shore to the Dolphins' GM search, as Joe breaks down Shore's growing influence, the potential three-headed front office model, and why Miami must prioritize paying Devon Achane

Joe reacts to Jimmy Butler and Stephen Curry sitting out against the Heat, calling out the continued rise of NBA load management. He makes it clear he has zero sympathy for stars who regularly sit, especially in marquee games. Joe sounds off on how this trend hurts fans and the league's product, noting that Michael Jordan never load-managed and openly spoke out against the idea

On today's show, Joe dives into the NBA's load-management era, calling out Jimmy Butler and Steph Curry for sitting out against the Heat and reflecting on how Michael Jordan never played that way. We take a full look around South Florida sports with coaches Erik Spoelstra and Paul Maurice. Plus we highlight some standout performances from Dolphins' Devon Achane and Jordyn Brooks. Kim Bokamper joins live in studio to weigh in on the Dolphins' GM search and highlight key players, while Pete Prisco breaks down Miami's playoff outlook and calls Mike McDaniel's late-game decisions “coaching malpractice.” Joe and Bokamper also discuss whether the Dolphins can turn things around and make a late-season push, and Chef Andre joins to talk Patriots and his Catch and Cut restaurant. Plus, Hollywood's Headlines covers Cam Skattebo, load management, Bill Belichick, and more.

Tobin and Leroy are still not over Mike McDaniels decision to go for it on that 4th and 1 in Madrid, just enjoy the win and bye week guys! Last night Jimmy Butler made his “return” to Miami but did not play. The guys break down his irish goodbye and Bam's subtle shade. A caller needs answers to the Dolphins struggles at the start of the game, and Leroy is there to save the day.

We tip-off hour 3 with Tobin sharing his proof that he boo'd Jimmy Butler last night, too bad it was the quietest boo anyone has ever heard but we let the show pony off the hook. The gang tries to get Tobin to attempt the truth behind his snake story, nobody is buying what you're selling Tobs. We wrap things up with our favorite Thursday game Goosies or No Goosies; Leroy claims he “doesn't hate Aaron Rodgers” and Tobin lashes out.

The crew opens the day still worked up over Mike McDaniel's 4th-and-1 gamble in Madrid before shifting to Jimmy Butler's low-key Miami appearance and Bam's quiet jab, with Leroy stepping in to diagnose the Dolphins' slow starts. Tobin then goes on a full rant about Steve Kerr, recoils at a bizarre birthday message from Skip Bayless, and faces more disbelief over his infamous snake tale, all while Brittney jumps in with her Dancing With the Stars breakdown and the show reacts to fresh sound from Mahomes, Rodgers, and Spo. Hour three brings “evidence” of Tobin's barely-audible boo aimed at Jimmy Butler, more interrogation about his snake saga, and a spirited round of Goosies or No Goosies that sends him spiraling when Leroy insists he doesn't hate Aaron Rodgers. The show closes at peak chaos: Tobin celebrating Vice Night at Kaseya Center, Spo's thoughts on beating the Warriors, and a round of laughs at Leroy's expense after AI slander leaves him salty—all while the silly sauce hits maximum strength.

Willard and Dibs' full -- yet truncated -- show from Wednesday, November 19th ahead of Warriors vs. Heat from Miami. In Hour 1, Willard and Dibs react to the idea that the Warriors are punting on tonight's game in Miami, react to the news that Steph Curry, Jimmy Butler, and Draymond Green are out tonight, react to the 49ers signing kicker Matt Gay, and more. In Hour 2, Willard and Dibs chat with Greg Cosell of NFL Films about the 49ers win over the Cardinals, get ready for Warriors vs. Heat in Miami, and more.

"You know about that Kent Hrbek?" You're not going to believe this, but Mike Ryan is not happy about the College Football Playoff rankings that came out last night. Plus, Jimmy Butler played 38 minutes last night, so there's no chance he plays in Miami tonight, right? Also, Tony disputes Victor Wembanyama's ability to play first base, even though John Kruk did it at a high level back in the day. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In hour three, an update on Hoch visiting EPCOT today. Previewing tonight's Heat - Warriors matchup which will feature none of the Warriors best players. Plus, Chris Wittyngham previews Inter Miami's upcoming MLS Playoff game vs Cincinnati.

Hour 3 features an in-depth Dolphins check-in with Alain Poupart, who discusses the team leaning toward keeping Tua Tagovailoa next season, moving on from Chris Grier, and how a softening schedule could spark a late-season surge. Panthers head coach Paul Maurice joins to talk about the team's strong home performance, injury challenges, Matthew Tkachuk's timeline, and the impact of veterans like Brad Marchand. We also dive into Bum Wednesday, covering Cam Skattebo's surprising WWE adventure, the latest College Football Playoff Committee decisions, and chatter around Jimmy Butler ahead of tonight's Heat–Warriors matchup.

Hour 1 opens with a look at tonight's Heat–Warriors matchup, where both Jimmy Butler and Stephen Curry are questionable again in the latest example of the NBA's load-management era. Joe questions whether Jimmy even cares about facing his former team and breaks down how stars sitting out marquee games continues to frustrate paying fans. We also examine how father time has clearly caught up to the Warriors and what that means for Golden State moving forward. Then we shift to college football as the latest CFP rankings drop, breaking down the Miami Hurricanes' updated playoff chances and what their realistic path looks like

We preview tonight's Heat–Warriors matchup through the lens of the NBA's growing load-management era, with both Jimmy Butler and Stephen Curry questionable once again. Joe questions whether Jimmy even cares about facing his former team and dives into how often stars now sit out marquee games. The segment also looks at how father time has clearly caught the Warriors and what these frequent absences mean for fans, matchups, and the league's overall product

South Florida sports take center stage as we cover the latest in the NBA, NFL, and college football. We preview tonight's Heat–Warriors matchup amid the NBA's load-management era, with Jimmy Butler and Stephen Curry both questionable and the Warriors feeling the effects of Father Time. Joe breaks down the Miami Hurricanes' College Football Playoff chances, the growing trend of stars sitting out bowl games, and whether the CFP should expand. Dolphins insights include Alain Poupart on Tua Tagovailoa, the team's schedule, and offseason direction, while Panthers head coach Paul Maurice discusses injuries, home success, and veteran impact. Plus, Brian Baldinger joins to recap the Dolphins' win in Madrid, AFC playoff races, and NFL storylines, with a mix of wild headlines like Cam Skattebo's WWE adventure and Roger Federer's Hall of Fame induction.

Bum Wednesday covers all the wild and unexpected stories making headlines. We break down injured Giants RB Cam Skattebo's surprising WWE adventure, take a look at the latest College Football Playoff Committee decisions, and dive into the latest news and chatter around Jimmy Butler ahead of tonight's Heat/Warriors matchup.

While previewing tonight's Warriors vs Heat game Tobin & Leroy take a look back at the Jimmy Butler trade tot he Warriors. Someone is speaking a different tune they did 9 months ago. The question is now who did win this trade as both sides seem to have flourish from this trade.

On todays' Tobin & Leroy show, T&L discuss the Miami Heat who face the Golden State Warriors tonight at Kaseya Center. The Warriors played last night and lost to Orlando and is playing the last game of their road trip in Miami. There is a good chance that Jimmy Butler and Steph Curry won't paly tonight which upsets Tobin. He was upset with the Cavaliers last week when they did it and now he will be mad at the Warriors if Jimmy and Steph doesn't play. They also take a look back at the trade of Jimmy Butler to the Warriors and ask did the Heat win the trade as time has passed?. Tobin & Leroy discuss the latest College Football Playoff ranking has the University of Miami ranked 13th behind 9th ranked Notre Dame the ream they beat to start the season. Will the Committee screw Miami out of the playoffs or with two weeks left in the season everything will play itself out and if the U wins their last two games the will be in? We talk some NFL as the Dolphins are on their bye this week, but we find out who will be the starting QB for t he Cleveland Browns on Sunday vs the Raiders. We take a look What's in the Mix bag and play our favorite hump day game, Rats Off A Ship".

In the second hour of the show , Tobin & Leroy talk NFL news as the Browns named Shedeur Sanders as the starting QB vs the Raiders this Sunday. All season Shedeur has been a topic of discussion and now all the haters & Shedeur fans will see what he has this Sunday? Tobin & Leroy talk NBA as the Warriors are in town to face the Heart tonight and we are waiting to see of Jimmy Butler will play tonight? Will Jimmy get the same type of treatment that Lebron gets when he comes to Miami? Finally, we take a look at the "Mix Bag".

In the first hour of the show, Tobin & Leroy preview the Miami Heat vs Golden State Warriors matchup tonight at the Kaseya Center. The Warriors lost last night to the Orland Magic. Steph Curry and Jimmy Butler each scored 30 points but are expected to paly tonight. Tobin thinks is squirmy that the Warriors wouldn't play both Jimmy and Steph but the last time a team didn't play their stars the Heat lost to the Cavaliers last week. They also take a look back at the Butler for Wiggins trade and they wonder who has win the trade so far? Tobin & Leroy discuss the Miami Dolphins and Mike McDaniel and his comments he made to the media. Tobin gives coach a new nickname for his coaching style in 2025.

Joe dives into the growing tension between star athletes and accountability in today's sports landscape. With big names returning to lineups, he argues that role players shouldn't suddenly be shoved aside—especially when they've been carrying the load. Joe makes it clear he won't forgive Jimmy Butler anytime soon, saying he “truly doesn't care about Jimmy Butler,” and points to a larger trend: modern stars hate being publicly called out. From Jimmy to a disgruntled A.J. Brown in Philly, Joe breaks down how athletes now wield more power than ever—and how that dynamic is shifting locker rooms, rotations, and expectations across the league

We open Hour 1 with the Miami Heat's fast-paced resurgence and how Erik Spoelstra has stamped his identity on this group, refusing to use injuries as an excuse. The Panthers also stay hot with an 8–5 win despite a rough night for Bobrovsky, and we check in on the Hurricanes' playoff hopes and whether the ACC continues to be disrespected. We touch on kicker news with Matt Gay getting cut and Justin Tucker conversation picking up, plus a quick debate on the best trophy in sports. Then we wrap with Joe's take on the modern superstar: role players deserve minutes when stars return, today's athletes hate being publicly called out, and guys like Jimmy Butler and A.J. Brown show how much power stars now hold.

South Florida sports take center stage as we break down the Miami Dolphins' season outlook, including Kyle Crabbs' deep dive on the offensive line, critical in-game decisions like the fourth-and-goal call and OT strategy, and how Miami can realistically get back to .500 with upcoming matchups. We also cover the Miami Heat's fast-paced resurgence under Erik Spoelstra, the Panthers' big win despite Bobrovsky's struggles, and the Hurricanes' slim College Football Playoff hopes. Joe weighs in on superstar athletes' growing power, from Jimmy Butler to A.J. Brown, and what it means for role players and locker room dynamics. Hollywood's Headlines touches on Jake Paul vs. Anthony Joshua, Victor Wembanyama's injury, and a rare Shohei Ohtani trading card. The show wraps with NFL controversies, including Ja'Marr Chase's spitting incident and league discipline debates.

Is Jimmy Butler dodging his return to Miami? Tobin happens to think so…Leroy is sick of the load management in professional sports and thinks why people are getting hurt. Then Brittney has the rant of all rants as she gets heated talking about Jaelan Phillips and him seemingly forgetting where he came from. We played our favorite Tuesday game Damage is Done… Benstiller, friendly fire and more hate on Jaelan Phillips.

We kick things off with the Show Pony flexing on Ben Stiller after he had things to say after the last meeting between the Heat and Knicks, and Tobin wonders where the Twitter fingers are now. Tobin and Leroy break down Kel'el Ware's performance last night, and Tobin likes his new shiny toy in Simone Fontecchio as the gang gets into the Thanksgiving spirit with Leroy giving everyone a step-by-step breakdown of how to fry a turkey. Is Jimmy Butler dodging his return to Miami? Tobin happens to think so, while Leroy is sick of the load management in professional sports and thinks why people are getting hurt. Brittney has the rant of all rants as she gets heated talking about Jaelan Phillips and him seemingly forgetting where he came from, and we play our favorite Tuesday game Damage is Done with Benstiller, friendly fire and more hate on Jaelan Phillips. Leroy tries to convince Tobin and Brittney that Notre Dame deserves to be higher than the Canes in the College Football Playoff, but Tobin is neither impressed nor hearing it. The gang is then joined by Doug Plagens as he talks about how fun the back-to-back Stanley Cup runs have been to call, the teams struggles and hopes for a threepeat, and of course Leroy asks him all his pressing and ridiculous Hockey questions. The guys go through the slate of last night's games one more time as both the Heat and Cats get the job done, our listeners are never safe from Leroy food ASMR as he indulges in a plate of Gnocchi, and Tobin is pressured by Leroy and Jfig to prove his loyalty by booing when Jimmy Butler is announced tomorrow.

"You used to walk around the house and you'd have a load in your pants." The death of the penny is upon us, and Greg Cote is mourning. Also, the disrespect of spitting on another human being, the Draymond Green heckler, and, somehow, a debate of whether or not the fan who approached Jimmy Butler in his car to yell at him about his bet "crossed the line." Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Moses Moody scored a career-high 32 points in the Golden State Warriors' 124-106 win over the Pelicans in New Orleans. Bonta Hill and Monte Poole break down the Warriors' three-game win streak on "Dubs Talk" before being joined by University of Florida basketball coach Todd Golden to discuss his former player Will Richard. (02:30) - Steph Curry had a historic trip to San Antonio and the Pelicans did everything they could to slow him down(05:00) - Warriors role players stepped up in New Orleans(07:30) - Warriors get first three-game win streak of season behind Moses Moody's big first quarter(09:30) - Jimmy Butler has been perfect compliment to Steph over these last three games(11:30) - Draymond Green is back to playing all world defense(14:00) - Warriors role players are starting to figure out their places(15:15) - New Orleans Pelicans are in a tough place, but these are the wins Warriors need to stack(19:00) - Will Richard picks up his 4th NBA start(22:00) - Florida coach Todd Golden joins to talk Will Ricahard(28:00) - Will Richard already is making starts, but what does he need to improve on?(33:00) - How did being a four-year college player help easy him into the NBA  Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

"It's really a testament to how that skill does not translate to radio." The vibes around Jimmy Butler, Draymond Green and the Golden State Warriors are bad. The vibes around Andrew Wiggins, Norman Powell in the Heat are great. The vibes around Zaslow, Jer-Emmy, and the rest of the Shipping Container are ELECTRIC. Today's cast: Dan, Zaslow, Chris, Amin, Jeremy, and Mike. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices