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Ep. 166: Basketball shaped the CEO at the helm of the global leader in real-time continuous glucose monitoring for people with diabetes. Kevin's days coaching have taught him the value of teamwork– lessons he applies to his 8,300 Dexcom employees that go to work to accomplish the mission of empowering people to take control of their health. Our BONUS RESOURCE for this episode includes fill-in-the-blank notes and reflection questions. Click here to download the bonus resource. Looking for a speaker for your next event? From more than 30 years of interviewing and studying the greatest winners of all time. Don offers these live and virtual presentations built to inspire your team towards personal and professional greatness. Special thanks to Tommaso Martone and Samantha Clark for making this episode possible.
Chewy's growth depends on how much we love our furry friends. (00:21) Bill Barker and Deidre Woollard discuss: - The power of Chewy's auto-ship service. - If Chewy's growth is too dependent on macro trends. - What factors could lead to a Dollar General turnaround. (21:38) Mary Long talks with Dexcom CEO Kevin Sayer about the impact of weight-loss drugs on diabetes care. Companies discussed: DXCM, DG, CHWY, DLTR, AMZN, WMT Claim your dividend report here: www.fool.com/dividends Host: Deidre Woollard Guests: Kevin Sayer, Mary Long, Bill Barker Producer: Ricky Mulvey Engineers: Rick Engdahl, Dan Boyd Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
The leader of one of the largest medical technology companies in the world, Kevin Sayer is the CEO of Dexcom, a business with a market cap of $47 billion. Kevin joins Adam to share his journey and his best lessons and advice. Kevin and Adam discuss a wide range of topics: leadership, mentorship, building winning teams and cultures, innovation, and much more.
It's In the News, a look at the top stories from the diabetes community from the last seven days. This week: Cost Plus pharmacy starts putting out feelers about insulin, asking people to take part in a pilot program, EO Flow looks at the US market for their new patch pump, quite a few new studies about type 2 diabetes drugs, a study about slowing down type 1 in kids and much more! Learn more about the T1D exchange and drive research that matters! www.t1dexchange.org/stacey Check out Stacey's books! Join the Diabetes Connections Facebook Group! Sign up for our newsletter here Episode Transcription Below (or coming soon!) Please visit our Sponsors & Partners - they help make the show possible! *Learn more about OMNIPOD* *Learn more about AFREZZA* *Learn more about DEXCOM* Hello and welcome to Diabetes Connections In the News! I'm Stacey Simms and these are the top diabetes stories and headlines of the past seven days. XX In the news is brought to you by The T1D Exchange - Help drive research that matters. XX Possible new player in the US Patch pump business. EO Flow has submitted a 510(k) application to the FDA for its EOPatch wearable, disposable insulin pump. EO Flow is based in California and has launched the pump in South Korea. The company also has FDA breakthrough device designation on an integrated artificial pancreas. The website says EOPancreas is a wearable disposable artificial pancreas system that integrates a continuous glucose sensor and an insulin pump in one small wearable module and autonomously controls insulin infusion. They're looking for a US partner for the pump and hope to launch in 2024. http://www.eoflow.com/eng/eopatch/eopatch_010100.html https://www.drugdeliverybusiness.com/eoflow-submits-insulin-patch-pump-fda-clearance/ XX Your time in range before getting a COVID vaccine may predict your body's response. This was a small study, 25 patients with type 1 who received two doses of a COVID vaccine. Researchers followed the group two weeks before before and six months after the shots. Main outcome measures: The primary exposure and outcome measures were pre-vaccination glucose control, and antibody response after vaccination, respectively. Patients meeting the recommended pre-vaccination glucose targets of TIR (≥70%) and TAR (≤25%), developed stronger neutralizing antibody titres (p < 0.0001 and p = 0.008, respectively), regardless of HbA1c. highlighting a role for well-controlled blood glucose in vaccination efficacy. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36611249/ XX New study in kids with type 1 seems to show that the drug golimumab – brand name Simponi – can help preserve beta cell function. This is the Tiger study which included people ages 6 to 21 years old with T1D and given either the drug or a placebo for 52 weeks the off the drug for another year. The group taking the drug used less insulin and had a higher c peptide level in the time after the medication stopped, indicating that there was a difference. https://diabetesjournals.org/care/article-abstract/doi/10.2337/dc22-0908/148228/Two-Year-Follow-up-From-the-T1GER-Study-Continued?redirectedFrom=fulltext XX New study confirming what a lot of you already know, Metformin failure in people with type 2 diabetes is very common, particularly among those with high A1c levels at the time of diagnosis. An analysis of electronic health record data for more than 22,000 patients starting metformin at three US clinical sites found that over 40% experienced metformin failure. This was defined as either failure to achieve or maintain A1c less than 7% within 18 months or the use of additional glucose-lowering medications. "These results call into question the ubiquitous use of metformin as the first-line therapy and suggest a more individualized approach may be needed to optimize therapy," they add in their article published online in the Journal of Clinical Endocrinology and Metabolism. The investigators identified a total of 22,047 metformin initiators from three clinical primary care sites: the University of Mississippi's Jackson centers, which serves a mostly African American population, the Mountain Park Health Center in Arizona, a seven-clinic federally qualified community health center in Phoenix that serves a mostly Latino population, and the Rochester Epidemiology Project, which includes the Mayo Clinic and serves a primarily White population. https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/986994 XX The FDA has approved a label update for semaglutide that allows the drug to be used in addition to diet and exercise as a first-line option to improve glycemic control in adults with type 2 diabetes. The brand name here is Wegovy. With its initial FDA approval in 2019, semaglutide became the first and only glucagon-like peptide-1 (GLP-1) analog in pill form. https://www.pharmacytimes.com/view/fda-approves-label-update-for-semaglutide-allowing-use-as-first-line-option-for-adults-with-type-2-diabetes XX Merk says it's diabetes drugs Januvia and Janumet have become contaminated with a potential carcinogen.. and it can resolve the problem by the end of the year. The company submitted a report to the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and other regulators. The impurity arose mostly during storage, as well as during manufacturing, Bloomberg News said. The FDA said in August certain samples of sitagliptin, a compound in Merck's diabetes drugs Januvia and Janumet, were contaminated with a possible carcinogen. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-01-17/merck-mrk-ready-to-remove-cancer-linked-chemical-from-diabetes-drugs-in-2023 XX Researchers studying new methods for improving blood sugar control in type 2 diabetes have discovered an old class of antipsychotic drugs may offer clues to a novel kind of treatment for hyperglycemia. While the researchers propose the old drugs could be directly repurposed to treat diabetes, they could also be slightly modified to more specifically target blood sugar control. The class of drugs, known as (DPBPs), were developed back in the 1960s and are still used today. The researchers say they “They all improve blood sugar control by preventing the muscle from burning ketones as a fuel source.” Because the DPBP drugs are already approved medicines the researchers hope to quickly move to proof-of-principal human trials. This would establish whether these preclinical findings are reproducible in human patients. The new study was published in the journal Diabetes. https://newatlas.com/medical/old-antipsychotic-drugs-new-class-diabetes-treatment/ XX Another study showing an AID system works well for people with type 2. Scientists from University of Cambridge set up a small study, no surprise, the closed loop system did a lot better than standard injection therapy – people stayed in target range 66-percent of the time versus 32-percent with shots. That was an additional 8 hours a day of time in range. https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/type-2-diabetes-artificial-pancreas-may-soon-be-an-option XX Dexcom gives us a little more information about the G7. I interviewed Kevin Sayer for this week's long format interview and he says the G7 will launch in the US during this first quarter.. so by the end of March. He also gave a more pessimistic view for interoperability with Tandem and Omnipod than we've heard – with Tandem end of summer early fall and Omnipod 5 next year. It's up to those companies, not Dexcom. XX T1D Exchange XX On the podcast next week.. how are those new year's resolutions going? If you haven't kept them up, maybe you tried to do too much at once? Nutritionist Ben Tzeel joins me to talk about how to get back on track. I mentioned last week's episode with Dexcom CEO Kevin Sayer. We talk about the G7 launch and lots more, including their plans for the type 2 community and moving into “health” That's In the News for this week.. if you like it, please share it! Thanks for joining me! See you back here soon.
Data this week suggest India is about to pass China as the world's most populous country. (0:25) Bill Mann discusses: - Procter & Gamble bumping up against the limits of its pricing powers - Why China still has a demand problem - How companies in the U.S. are moving some operations from China to Vietnam and India (11:25) Sanmeet Deo talks with Dexcom CEO Kevin Sayer about his company's work in continuous glucose monitors and a major shift affecting the future of healthcare. Stocks discussed: PG, CMG, AAPL, SBUX, DXCM Host: Chris Hill Guest: Bill Mann, Sanmeet Deo, Kevin Sayer Producer: Ricky Mulvey Engineers: Rick Engdahl, Tim Sparks
Dexcom CEO Kevin Sayer joins Stacey from the American Diabetes Association's Scientific Sessions with new G7 information, a response to Abbott's Libre 3 approval, addressing rumors about acquiring another diabetes company and a lot more. This podcast is not intended as medical advice. If you have those kinds of questions, please contact your health care provider. Check out Stacey's book: The World's Worst Diabetes Mom! Join the Diabetes Connections Facebook Group! Sign up for our newsletter here ----- Use this link to get one free download and one free month of Audible, available to Diabetes Connections listeners! ----- Episode Transcription Below (or coming soon!) Please visit our Sponsors & Partners - they help make the show possible! *Click here to learn more about OMNIPOD* *Click here to learn more about AFREZZA* *Click here to learn more about DEXCOM*
Got a few minutes? Get caught up on the top diabetes stories and headlines of the past week. The FDA approves Abbott's Freestyle Libre, Dexcom addresses reports it may buy Insulet, Ozempic becomes a TikTok trend, Diabetes Scholarships for college and more! Check out Stacey's book: The World's Worst Diabetes Mom! Join the Diabetes Connections Facebook Group! Sign up for our newsletter here ----- Use this link to get one free download and one free month of Audible, available to Diabetes Connections listeners! ----- Episode Transcription Below (or coming soon!) Please visit our Sponsors & Partners - they help make the show possible! *Click here to learn more about OMNIPOD* *Click here to learn more about AFREZZA* *Click here to learn more about DEXCOM* Hello and welcome to Diabetes Connections In the News! I'm Stacey Simms and these are the top diabetes stories and headlines of the past seven days. we go live on social media first and then All sources linked up at diabetes dash connections dot com when this airs as a podcast. XX In the news is brought to you by T1D Exchange! T1D Exchange is a nonprofit organization dedicated to improving outcomes for the entire T1D population. https://t1dexchange.org/stacey/ XX Our top story, FreeStye Libre 3 gets FDA approval. This is a 14 -day CGM, Abbot says it's smaller and thinner, about the size of two pennies stacked up. Abbott also claims Libre 3 is the most accurate 14-day CGM based on new results. It's worth noting that there isn't another 14-day CGM on the market.. Dexcom is ten days and the upcoming G7 seems to have similar accuracy. However, Libre is less expensive and they say there will be no price increase for this new model. Libre has had iCGM designation since the Libre 2 – but the FDA says it's still not allowed for use with automated insulin delivery systems. I've asked to speak with Abbott and we'll find out more about why that is and what the company plans to do if it can't integrate with insulin pumps in the US. XX Meanwhile, Dexcom pushes back on talk that it was interested in acquiring Insulet. Here's part of the quote: It is generally our policy not to comment on rumors or speculation, however, in light of recent sustained media and market speculation as well as the upcoming American Diabetes Association conference, we wish to confirm that Dexcom is not in active discussions regarding a merger transaction at this time. We do not intend to comment further on this topic and we assume no obligation to make any further announcement or disclosure should circumstances change." I'm set to talk to Dexcom's CEO at ADA and I'll definitely ask him about this, even though they say they won't comment further. I do think it's interesting they use the word “merger” and not also “acquisition” – but the stock market seems to believe them. Dexcom went up on the news. XX New information could link environmental pollution to type 1. New study from Norway says even low concentrations of such pollutants can result in cells producing less insulin. New cases in Norway have doubled in children and teens since the 1970s. This study also included samples from American kids. Overall, the researchers found a larger proportion of those with type 1 diabetes these pollutants in their blood. They also found when mice were exposed to the pollutants, insulin production went down. https://www.news-medical.net/news/20220530/Environmental-pollutants-may-be-the-reason-behind-development-of-type-1-diabetes.aspx XX Whey protein may be the next big thing for people with type 2. Drinking a pre-made shot before meals with a low dose of whey protein seems to help better control blood glucose levels. In this study, people went about their daily lives with no changes but the whey drink. Then they spent a week with no whey, all while wearing a CGM. On average, people had two hours additional per day of normal blood sugar levels compared to the week they skipped the protein drink. The researchers believe the whey slows down food in the digestive system and also stimulate hormones than help keep glucose from rising. This was a small study, but you can bet you'll be hearing a lot more follow up.. it's a simple and promising treatment. https://scitechdaily.com/just-a-small-amount-of-protein-supplement-helps-control-type-2-diabetes/ XX At least at one hospital, the pandemic showed the telemedicine and CGM use can make a big difference in kids with type 1. For the study published in BMC Pediatrics, these researchers used data from Children's Medical Center Dallas . While the number of office visits among patients decreased during the pandemic, there was no effect on disease management in this group – both glucose control and hospitalization rates were unchanged. However, the results highlighted existing disparities among patients in minority and low-income demographics. Both before and during the pandemic, Black and Hispanic patients and those without commercial insurance had worse glucose control and higher hospitalization rates. There was however a dramatic increase in CGM use by patients without commercial insurance, likely because it was then that CGM was offered to Medicaid recipients in Texas. The researchers believe the increased use of continuous glucose monitoring along with the successful implementation of telemedicine greatly contributed to preventing worse outcomes in this patient population. https://www.news-medical.net/news/20220531/Telemedicine-continuous-glucose-monitoring-helped-attenuate-COVID-19-impact-on-children-with-Type-1-diabetes.aspx XX Heads up if you take Ozempic, might want to get that prescription squared away and filled.. a quote - “unexpected increase in consumer demand” seems to have come because of a Tik Tok trend. TikTok users have been documenting their weight loss using the hashtag #ozempic, even though it's not approved for that use, only for treatment of type 2. This seems to be more of an issue in Australia and the UK. https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/may/31/shortage-of-diabetes-medication-ozempic-after-tiktok-users-promote-drug-for-weight-loss XX Right back to the news in a moment but first we've got a new sponsor. As I mentioned, The T1D Exchange Registry is an online research study, designed to harness the power of individuals with type 1 diabetes. It's a research study conducted online over time, designed to foster innovation and improve the lives of people with T1D. Personal information remains confidential and participation is fully voluntary. Once enrolled, participants will complete annual surveys and have the opportunity to sign up for other studies on specific topics related to T1D. By sharing opinions, experiences and data, patients can help advance meaningful T1D treatment, care and policy Sign up at T1DExchange.org slash Stacey (that's S-T-A-C-E-Y). XX ADA Scientific Sessions kicks off today and continues through the weekend. I have a virtual press pass and I'm sure next week's newscast will be chock full of newly released studies. My email is already full of the previews and I wish all my friends traveling to the first in person scientific sessions since I believe 2019 a safe trip. XX Congrats to the newest class of Diabetes Scholars! Beyond Type 1's program awarded over 50 scholarships to students living with Type 1 diabetes in 2022. At over $166,000 these scholarships are made possible by individual donors and partner organizations. New this year, the Lilly Diabetes Thom Scher Policy plus advocacy scholarship. Thom was the CEO of Beyond Type 1 until his sudden death last year. The Scholarship in his name is for a student with a strong background in type 1 diabetes policy and advocacy. 100% of scholarship funds donated by individuals or partners are awarded to recipients, with Beyond Type 1 absorbing all operational costs associated with the program. https://diabetesscholars.org/class-of-2022/ XX On this week's long format episode, you'll hear about Savannah Johnson's Type 1 Way Ticket. Next week, Dexcom CEO Kevin Sayer from ADA. Listen wherever you get your podcasts That's In the News for this week.. if you like it, please share it! Thanks for joining me! See you back here soon.
This week we'll focus on a few of the exciting companies in the diabetes space. Associate Editor Sean Whooley first tracks down Dexcom CEO Kevin Sayer, who discusses the company's next-generation G7 continuous glucose monitor, which is awaiting FDA approval. Then, Sean speaks with Bigfoot Biomedical CEO Jeffrey Brewer to learn more about what he calls “a transformational attempt” to simplify CGMs with an all-in-one platform with a smart insulin pen cap. Finally, Sean interviews Senseonics CMO Dr. Francine Kaufman about the company's Eversense 180-day CGM, which just received FDA approval. Chris Newmarker brings his Newsmakers of the week including Amazon, Thermo Fisher, HeartFlow, Abbott, Cooper Company and Cook Medical. This episode was sponsored by Accumold. Subscribe to this podcast on major podcast channels.
This week, Dexcom CEO Kevin Sayer spoke to the JP Morgan Healthcare Conference about the G7 and beyond. We talk about information from that presentation and get to as many of your questions as time allows. This interview took place on Tuesday Jan 11 and much of what we discussed isn't FDA approved. Dexcom presentation info here Club1921 info here Our usual disclaimer: Dexcom is a sponsor of this podcast, but they don't dictate content and they don't tell me what to ask their executives. Recent Dexcom episodes: CTO Jake Leach talks about Garmin, Dexcom One & more CEO Kevin Sayer talks about G7, Direct to Watch, Adhesive and more CEO Kevin Sayer talks about Dexcom in Hospital, G7, VA program and more Check out Stacey's book: The World's Worst Diabetes Mom! Join the Diabetes Connections Facebook Group! Sign up for our newsletter here ----- Use this link to get one free download and one free month of Audible, available to Diabetes Connections listeners! ----- Episode Transcription Below Stacey Simms 0:00 Diabetes Connections is brought to you by Dexcom. Take control of your diabetes and live life to the fullest with Dexcom and by Club 1921. Where Diabetes Connections are made This is Diabetes Connections with Stacey Simms. Welcome to another week of the show. You know I'm always so glad to have you here. We aim to educate and inspire about diabetes with a focus on people who use insulin. And I'm talking with Dexcom CEO this week, it's Kevin Sayer, he is back to check in with us again. And in the interest of getting this episode out to you as soon as I could. It might sound a little different right here at the beginning. But Dexcom episodes are always so high interest that it really merits a quick turnaround. I didn't want to sit on this interview for a week. So here's the setup. Dexcom CEO Kevin Sayer gave a presentation to the JP Morgan healthcare conference, if you're listening as this episode goes live, that was just Monday of this week, January 10, the interview you're about to hear took place on Tuesday, January 11. My usual disclaimer Dexcom is a sponsor of this podcast, but they don't dictate content and they don't tell me what to ask their executives. I asked the Diabetes Connections podcast Facebook group for questions. And Whoa, boy, did you have a lot as always not a surprise. And I really appreciate you sending those in, I got to as many as I could, while also trying to include what the folks at Dexcom had really asked me to bring up there are some topics that they wanted Kevin to make sure to address. And I think we do a pretty good job of trying to reach a balance here. Kevin, welcome and Happy New Year, Kevin Sayer 1:46 and Happy New Year to you. Stacey Simms 1:48 Thank you. Well, this seems to have started out in pretty happy way on the headline, just from this week. Dexcom CEO touts unprecedented performance of G7 in clinical trial. This is after your talk at the annual JP Morgan healthcare conference. Tell me a little bit about that unprecedented performance data. Kevin Sayer 2:08 I'm happy to. And I just have to qualify it by saying no, I can't send it to all your listeners at the end of the call yet. We're still waiting for approval in Europe. And we have filed this with the FDA, I'm going to take you back a little bit, we made a decision when we were going through the G7 development process that we wanted to answer that performed better than G6. And all of our scientists looked at us and they go oh, really, you're sure because this is really good. And so we spent a lot of time new algorithms and new manufacturing techniques, there's a lot of things in G7 that make it different. We also wanted to validate that performance with a study that was so large, nobody could refute it. So as you look at the data that I presented at the conference yesterday, over 300 patients 39,000 Match pairs all across since one ranges and on the I CGM standard side, but with the 5% 95% lower bound, and even the absolute points, you can see we are well within all of the iCGM standards, which are very technical and actually are a very good measure of how a sensor actually performs in reality. And they were very thoughtful in developing these standards to try and pick the centers that don't work to put you statistically in a bind to whereby if you really aren't performing in the low range or wherever, you're not going to get that iCGM designation. We're very comfortably there. And the overall MARD in the study, Stacey is eight point, you know I it's in the low eight for adults and pediatrics. And if you start looking at the data, we gather the data sets in three periods, you know, days one and two, the middle days, four, or five and six, and the last days nine and 10. It's pretty low, I think it's below 10. In the first group a day, the first days, which are always a little bit higher, traditionally in our centers than the other days. But in those middle and end days, it's it's near seven, and strips for six. I mean, we have done something that I've been in this business for since 1994. I didn't think we'd ever do this when I started. As far as being this good. This is really, really good data. And we're going to continue to deliver the experience to our customers that they demand from us. So as you can as you think about an iCGM that's driving an automated insulin delivery system. And not only is the performance great, the user where it's 60% smaller, it's a 30 minute warm up. It's a new app. From our perspective, we've got a lot of the clarity data, your listeners will know about clarity. We've got a lot of your clarity data right on the app. There's new alarm configurations. Stacey Simms 4:48 I'm gonna just jump in with a couple of quick clarifications before we go on. You mentioned a number of there that went by quickly I apologize when you talked about the 300 people in this trial 39,000 match what I missed that one Kevin Sayer 5:00 matched pairs. That's where you compare the CGM value to the blood glucose value from the laboratory instrument. So the way our studies work is literally we draw blood samples from the individuals in the study at intervals, and then we actually match the CGM data to that laboratory blood instrument. So 39,000 points from these 300 people in this study were matched. Got it? Stacey Simms 5:27 And you mentioned the MARD mean absolute relative difference. Most of you, as you listen are very familiar with this, the lower the better for CGM G6, I, my understanding was G6 was in the low nines. This is 8.1 for peds. 8.2 for adults, as I'm reading it, that's right. I know you can't tell me I'll ask you anyway, why? What made the difference here? Is it sighs is it algorithm? Do you have anything you can point to? Or is that a trade secret Kevin Sayer 5:49 it's combination, I think the algorithm has been the most, the algorithm changes were really extensive here. And, you know, we always have manufacturing processes to get better, the way we build the G7 centers different in every step of the way. Literally, our G6 manufacturing processes go away and the G7 ones take over the summer, we're a little similar on the actual sensor wire itself, and that manufacturing, but everything else is different. We just think it it's smaller, it's a lot shorter than G6 was. And so it is it's going to be a completely different experience for everybody. Stacey Simms 6:28 So to go back to what you were talking about, before I jumped in there, you were starting to talk about alarms, is there something different for the alarm, Kevin Sayer 6:35 the app is different. And so access to them, and, and just how you use them, if we try to get to be more consumer, thoughtful, as we configured the alarms, we'll see how everybody loves him. It'll be interesting. The alarms are one of the things we get the most comments on when we launch a product initially, we try and please everyone, but we never please everyone. And then you get you know, the agency at one time. I don't know if your call. I think one of our other discussions, we had to make the mute override not work on the low end. Boy, we got a lot of people mad at us about that one. So we've tried to comply with what our users want, and also comply with what the FDA has asked us to do. But I think users will find the alarm experience. Good as well. I like I think it's just gonna be a home run. Yeah, well, I Stacey Simms 7:24 mean, my son would be happy if an alarm never made a noise again. And I know other people who put like it to alarm every time there's any movement. So I hear where you're coming from, can you give any insight into the G7 app in terms of what the differences that we may see as users? And I guess especially one of the questions I always get is about follow any changes of significance coming that you can share follows Kevin Sayer 7:47 on a separate software track. And so the G7 system, the app is just we tried to get more data in the app itself, versus what we have with G6. So a lot of the clarity data, or at least summary query data is sitting there right in your app. And that will be i we think people will like that just to see how they're doing over time you got your time in range data for, you know, three 714, you know, a month, 90 days, see how you're doing time in range wise and the app is other than that it's relatively similar. The startup is different and you know, in the interface is going to be different. I think over time, what you'll see with us is that app is now going to get more sophisticated, we changed the entire software platform for G7 and started over again, and we developed a software platform, we can now really change and add on to a lot easier than we could in the past. And so we're hoping to have more frequent software releases. But we've also learned that CGM is not like Battlestar Galactica game, a game where you want to get a new release every two weeks to fire everybody up. We can't do a release every two weeks, because people depend on this for their, you know, for their lives. And if you do too frequent releases, and you botch a release, you do some wrong, you remember what happened, if we ever make a mistake on the software, the data side, we can't do that. But we do want to add more features more quickly in this platform will enable us to do that. I think one of the things you'll see going forward on the software side, we really want to automate a lot of the tech support features. We've added some, you know, you can get FAQs right from the app now with respect to your sensor, but there are other things we think we can do tech support wise in the app that will you know, reduce everybody's burden. Nobody likes making a phone call and nobody likes picking up the phone. And when we have a sensor fail, and we do have sensors fail, it just doesn't make any sense that you have to call us if we've got data on a phone, it'd be much easier. For example, if we could diagnose that failure right on the app and go through a very quick process to why but where you could get one. I can't give a timeframe when all those things are going to come but the platform is robust enough that over time, we can add features like that. One of the other nice things about G7, since it's fully disposable, you know, every sensor has its own unique serial number. Whereas with G6, that same transmitters used with three months' worth of sensors. So it will be, it will be fun to be able to follow things like that and see how the sensors go through the channel where everybody gets attract things of that nature. So what we're really looking forward to the change in our business that G7 affords us. Stacey Simms 10:28 As usual, I have listener questions, I'm going to try to not repeat because you've been really accessible in the last year, we've talked to a couple of folks from Dexcom, besides yourself. So as you listen, if I didn't get to your question, or if you have a question, good chance, we actually answered it in the last year, year and a half. But given let me ask you about compression lows, because that's one of the things we had talked about, about testing the G7. Any update on that in these trials, if you lay on it, you know, circulation slows, and you can get a false reading any better with the G7 Kevin Sayer 10:54 part of the clinical study is in the compression, because you're pretty much sitting in a chair with a needle in your arm drawing blood. So I'm sorry, we can't really test that we'll learn more about compression when it gets in the field. My hope is that it isn't as much but I can't promise that because I don't know, we're not enough people. I think there are ways over time where we can manage compression better, I'm not going to get into all the science on the phone, believe it or not, I do spend a lot of time with the engineers on this specific issue. Because I have it happened to me from time to time too. So I will call them up say Hey, can we do X, Y or Z? And I think there are some some answers, but I can't give them away because I don't want to give away the playbook. So let's let's just see what we can do overtime on that one. Stacey Simms 11:42 Okay. All right. But you know, the next clinical trial just have them lean against the side of their bed. Kevin Sayer 11:46 We will we'll have to do well. Diffic very scientific. Stacey Simms 11:50 Another question came up, and I think I'm gonna knock wood. I think we've been very lucky on this. It's about new iOS launches from Apple. And I'll read the question and it'll tell you, briefly our experience. This person said Dexcom is part of the Apple Developer Network developers have access to new release such as iOS months before launch, why does Dexcom lag behind Apple iOS launches by months in terms of quote, approved use. And our experience, frankly, is that we have not had any issues Benny and I both have, we just got but as a 13. Plus, we both had very old phones. And we have a latest software and no glitches for us. But that's not everyone's experience, can you talk a little bit about that, Kevin Sayer 12:30 we do get the iOS versions in advance, and we do our best to comply with them, I would I would tell you that it isn't as simple as it's made out to be. And the iOS version that's launched isn't always exactly what we've worked on as they as they make tweaks, not big ones. But you also test for everything that you know about the new iOS versions, and sometimes are things that you don't know, that are in there that come back and may affect the app later on, which is why we delay a little bit, we try and go through every bit of testing that you can imagine. And I'll be honest with your users, Apple's made iOS changes, because of us, we have called up and said, Look, you got to do XY and Z here we have a problem. And they're very good to work with, they've not been difficult at all, you know, when you think about iOS and Android operating system and all the things that they impact. And it's very hard not to impact somebody adversely when you do a new iOS launch. And you know, the perfect example with us is the home you'd override journey that I brought up earlier. In the beginning, I believe the only app that can overcome the mute override within iOS is authorized manna in the beginning was Apple's alarm clock, but other people would go around it with their apps was a medical device, we can't do a go around, we have to make sure what we do is in compliance and known so they work with us very well to make sure we could do what the FDA wanted with respect to the mute button. And the same thing with Android on that, and that was a very difficult exercise. So if there's a delay, it's because we're taking time to see what might have been put into iOS that would change our app. And it just one more thing that will stop. new operating systems are often designed to minimize power usage to extend battery life. Oftentimes, minimizing power usage affects an app that has to be running continuously. And those are the types of battles that we fight are things that we have to make sure we test as a new iOS minimizes power usage. Just does that turn us off? Does it does that stop Dexcom? And we've had, we've discovered things of that nature where it could affect our app. So there you go. Long answers. All right. Stacey Simms 14:44 No, no, that's great. And you mentioned you've asked iOS you've asked Apple to make changes. I assume the alarm was one any others that you can share. Kevin Sayer 14:52 I know that nothing I could share. Nothing major that I like you said they're very cognizant of the Dexcom community there we are. You know, we're we're a very large part of the iOS, you know, we're pretty, it's pretty vocal group when it comes to iOS, Stacey Simms 15:06 pretty vocal group period, the whole community. Alright, we say that with love. So another question came from my group, which was about Sugarmate. This is a, I would describe it as a third party app that uses the Dexcom information. And now the real time API to display and and act on data in its own way, my understanding is that Tandem owns Sugarmate, just from way of background here. And you know, Dexcom owns a little bit of Tandem. So there's a relationship there. Can you speak a little bit about data sources, but the bottom line question here was using Sugarmate and the situation to ask you, does Dexcom feel like they own the patient data? Or do the patients still own their data, even when going through the Dexcom web API's, we believe Kevin Sayer 15:49 the patient's own their data, not us, let me rephrase that we believe the patient's control the use of their data, we are the stewards of that data sitting on our servers. And so we have a responsibility to maintain it and to keep it but where that data goes and where that data is used. We do believe, particularly if it's identified data, that the patient absolutely has complete control over that there's vector sugar made, it's interesting, it was not using API's before it was a like many and non authorized use of the data to display it in a different format that people quite candidly, mess, like better than looking at the Dexcom app. And that's fine. That's why we built the live API's, we made a server change to upgrade our server platform, again, more capacity, more safety, more redundancy. It's a project that's been going on for years. And we've come to the end of that project this year. And when doing so there were some technical issues with Sugarmate, they very quickly switched over to the live API's. And now this is an authorized use of the data based on platform and data pipes that we built. So we're willing to share the data with people when they want it. I think that's an attitude of Dexcom. That changed very much over the years, when we first started, we had a hard time with that concept. Because we worked so hard to invent this technology and gather this data, why would we share it with anybody and say, See, you remember the early days and Nightscout, they were mad at us, we were mad at that. Now, we're not mad at anybody anymore. I think it's important that the data sharing be structured and be used for good purposes. But you know, all in all, it's a, it's a good use of the data that we have, because these are still Dexcom customers. If you want to, you're still buying sensors and using them. It's not a bad thing. Stacey Simms 17:35 Let me ask you a question about the sensors. And this came up in the fall. I've seen it less since but it's still out there. And I don't know if this is something you can answer. But it seems that we have not received this. But it seems that some customers are getting the G6 sensors, the inserters brand new in the original packaging, but a new label on it that says this product meets shelf-life extension requirements. I'm your people I reached out to them in the fall, they told me the stickers, oh, you know, it's all legit. There are updated expiration dates. But I'm curious why this is happening. And you know, what is the shelf life of the G6, Kevin Sayer 18:10 I can tell you exactly what's going on, you do shelf-life testing for product as selling your product will last. And over the course of our product lifecycle, you trying to extend that shelf life through more testing to make sure the product still works for the same amount of time period, if you manufactured product with 12 months shelf life, and then extend that shelf life to 18 months. And it's still the same product and still same manufacturing process rather than unbox it, put it in a new box or throw it away, we put a sticker on the outside because it's same products been tested, it's been proven that it works for 18 months, that's not a problem. That doesn't mean that it's 18 months old, we never have inventory that sits around that long to my knowledge, but we do extend shelf lives, it's important for us to do that, with respect to the distribution channel, particularly as we go to the pharmacy, you know, in the drugstore and and our distributors, the longer they have, you know that they can keep product, the better. We don't want people throwing product away if they don't have to. So all that means is we've extended our testing and shown that the product still works for a longer period of time and wanted to to label the product accordingly. That's all Stacey Simms 19:17 Yeah, I think because it came at a time when there is nervousness just in general not just in diabetes about supply chain and, you know, scarcity concerns. It just seemed unexpected, if that makes sense. Kevin Sayer 19:30 Well I one of the reasons to extend life is in fact supply chain we don't have inventory issues with G6 you know G6 is a very very well running process right now and still, you know, the premier sensor on the market. In fact, we launched a G6 derivation product in Europe, these past three months called Dexcom. One a it's a cash pay product sold on the E commerce platform in four European countries say See now and it's a lower price and geographies. But we did a feature that we took away, share and follow. We're not connecting any devices. It's it's a simpler technology. And again, we have d six supply to be able to go and do things like that. And we are planning to have G7 capacity to do similar things. We are not shooting small on either front will have capacity on both sides. And, you know, listeners on a supply chain perspective, we have been extremely diligent with respect to components for our products. And right now we see things very good today. We my operations team has just been outstanding on this front. So knock on wood, no, no Dexcom problems today. Stacey Simms 20:40 All right, two more questions for you. As always, we're going to run out of time. And as you're listening, I would refer you again, we did have a conversation about Dexcom. One in a previous show. So I will link that up. This one is more of I've asked this, you answered it, but I still continue to get questions to please ask you please make sure when GS seven comes out that Medicare is taken care of? Kevin Sayer 21:00 Well, that is a great question. And I think we've learned from our mistakes in the past. So we will when we get G7 done, what we will do is we will file with CMS to get G7 reimbursement. That's a process that I've heard anecdotally takes three to six months. So if we can get it done in three months, we can't file with CMS until it's approved. But we'll file after approval, and then we'll go and it is our plans to have capacity for all of our US users. When we go it is not that Medicare delay for G6 was one of the most emotionally gut-wrenching things I've dealt with here, because you can't imagine how many emails I got. But we didn't have capacity, and we didn't have everything ready. We've learned from our mistakes. And we'll hopefully be ready to go to everybody. That's our plan right now. Stacey Simms 21:49 That's great. Okay, and my last question is, and I hate doing this to you, but I'm doing it anyways, look into the chapter, we're gonna look, we're gonna come at it sideways, because I did have one listeners and ask him what's planned for the g8? And I said, Come on, let's let him get the G7. Oh, you know what? I'm happy? You can answer that. Let's go for it? Kevin Sayer 22:07 Well, well, I'll give you two because we did lose some time in the beginning because my computer wasn't functioning properly. As we look to the future, we want performance to continue to be better. And then we ask ourselves, but we're getting to the point where as you get to an eight, Mar D, we're getting close to finger six, I don't know how much more of a gap there's going to be, as we look to the future, and even G7 derivatives, we want to go to a longer life, we want to go to 15 days rather than 10. We'll be running studies doing that over the next couple of years. We've got a couple of plans there. We're always looking to upgrade the electronics, and how much better electronics, you know, I know one of your bigger user complaints is connectivity and loss of data, how do we improve that experience for our customers to make that better over time? Because we can always be better. And phones change faster than medical devices? So what why do we put there, we're looking at ways how we can help the environment for future product launches again, and changes in the next platforms, G6 has a lot more materials than G7 does as far as just raw plastic. So how do we make an impact there? On the cost side, there's some form factor things that are pretty far out there that we look at that I won't go into that are really, really fun. We'll see if we had done that. And if they're feasible from a cost of manufacturing perspective, but again, we're now very much focused on customer preference, rather than can't we make this work well enough, you know, in my early days here, it's Can we can we just get this thing working well enough to whereby people can rely on it. Whereas now it's one of those features that are going to make it a more engaging experience. And the last one will be software and analytics and things like that, as I look out over time, do we end up with analytics to whereby we can offer our users a menu of choices on the software side to whereby they can get more if you want Dexcom when don't want to connect or talk to anybody? You can have that if you want something that literally literally analyzes every glucose measurement that you take and does something scientifically. How do you get there, I think there's a number of experiences we can develop over time for future product generations without changing the form factor. So I don't see any slowdown in investment on the r&d side. And on the product side, G6 is the best product out there now and G7 will just be better in every way. And then we just keep going from there. Stacey Simms 24:27 And I appreciate you answering that. Thank you. So if you keep going from there, this is the sideways kind of question I wanted to ask. Okay, go ahead. Okay. A couple of days ago, Abbott announced the idea of what they're calling Lingo, which is bio wearables that will track not only glucose, but ketones and lactate and alcohol. And they say these are not medical devices. You know, this is for people who want to be you know, ultra-marathoners and things like that. We're already seeing sensors used in that way right now. Any plans to do something like this? Kevin Sayer 24:56 You know what our electronics platform for G7 We could put any, if we could develop a sensor wire with membranes and analytes and such for to measure something else, it would fit right into G7. And we design G7. With that in mind, we have advanced technology work going on with the other analytes. But it's still an advanced technology phase, we have to answer a couple of questions. First, have we done all we're supposed to do on the glucose side? Before we run there, and we got a lot to do right now, Stacy, you've heard me talk on this call. And so we need to get done what we started, we need to get G7 launched, we need to scale it up and manufacture it in the 10s. And ultimately, hundreds of millions of products as we stand up a factory in Malaysia and get our Arizona facility built out even more. So we've got to get that work done. The second piece, I'm going to answer this in three pieces. The second piece is what is the commercial opportunity for each of those things. They did announce this line of sensors, but they're all individual sensors. So I've worn a lactate sensor, I'll be completely honest with you from the lab and seeing what it does to my workouts and it's very cool, I can see which workout is better than another one. But I'm not ultra-marathoner, I probably wouldn't change my life. But it was very interesting to look at. There are other scientific uses of black data, particularly in a hospital setting. But what is the market for those, and so we're gonna kind of take an approach, we'll continue to develop the science and if Abbott wants to go develop a market, I am happy to follow this time rather than create it, like we've done with glucose. The third piece of this is there are a lot of biosensors out there. Now, you have your Apple Watch, and Apple is continuing to gather more and more data or ranks, whoop bands, Fitbits, they're advertised on television all the time, I would love to incorporate data from these other sensing technologies into into Dexcom. And vice versa, share our data with those people, particularly as you head down the health and wellness path. And let's get some other people's sensors into our platform. In all honesty, if Abbott's really good at sensing these other things, we'll take that data on our platform and analyze it to if they want to, I guarantee you, that probably isn't gonna, gonna happen. But we would, you know, let's be open about this. We're going to get our glucose work done to because we've not seen an opportunity that exceeds this. Stacey Simms 27:13 Got it? Excellent. Well, thank you so much for answering that it really is so interesting to watch and to see if, as you say, if any of this really, really makes a difference commercially, if people do want to adopt it widely. You know, I think the jury's still out, so we shall follow. Kevin Sayer 27:26 Hey, thanks for having me again. Stacey Simms 27:27 Thank you so much. Have a great day. You're listening to Diabetes Connections with Stacey Simms. More information at the episode homepage, diabetes, Dash connections.com. I'll have the transcription up as soon as I can. But again, quick turnaround on this episode. Thank you so much, again, for sending in the questions. Obviously, I didn't get to all of them. And if you're not in the Facebook group, that's generally where I asked for questions for this kind of thing. It's Diabetes Connections of the group. I'll link it up in the show notes. As always, I know not everybody's on Facebook, please feel free to always email me if you email me now about Dexcom. I'll save those questions until the next time we talk to them. It's Stacey at diabetes connections.com. Again, it's in the show notes and it's on the website. But I get it not everybody is on Facebook these days. To that point, at the very beginning of the show, in that little sponsor tease before things even begin, I mentioned club 1921. So let me tell you a little bit more might be an update for some of you. Maybe some of you are hearing about this for the very first time. Briefly, club 1921 is a website. It's a project I've been working on for a long time. And it is a place where anyone with any type of diabetes can find events anywhere in the United States. We are in beta right now. I invite you to go to the website club 1920 one.com. Until around, check it out. Let me know what you think we've immediately identified we went into beta, late last fall several things mostly about the signup that need to be fixed, those could be fixed by the time you log in, my guess is closer to the end of January. There's a little bit of confusion there. I'll explain in a moment. But other than that, it's pretty well set. The idea here is that instead of a Google Calendar or something like that, this would be a website where you go, you sign up, you tell us what kind of events you're looking for, and then you never have to come back, we'll email you automatically. When events that meet your criteria are edit, very easy. So you pick your type of diabetes, you pick your location, you pick which type of events you want, you pick your age, I mean, you can just say I want everything in every category you can kind of go through, but whatever you pick, and you can change those if you want to come back and change your filters, but whatever you pick, we will email you when those events are added. If you want to add events. There are two types of events you can add one we're very creatively calling events. This is your JDRF walk. This is your friends for life conference. This is your hospital education for people with type two. It's an event by an organization a was a staff an event where they expect lots of people or it's regularly scheduled, or there's a fee, that kind of thing. The other kind of events we're calling Hangouts. These are my favorite types of events. I love what we're calling Hangouts. This is your mom, coffee, your kid play date at a playground, you know, you're going out to a bar, post COVID, with your adult friends with type one, hang outs are not put on by an established organization. They're put on by people like you and me, we don't have a staff, we just want to meet people in our area. When you're adding those. That's where a lot of the confusion came up in the registration process. Because if you want to add events or Hangouts, you actually have to sign up in a different way. So I'm going to talk more about that as the weeks go on. We're fixing that part of the website. But if you try to sign up and you see some confusion, it may be because you are trying to add an event or a Hangout. If you want to just sign up to learn about the events and Hangouts, it should be pretty simple. But if it's not, if you have any questions, any suggestions, please let me know. Email me Stacey at diabetes connections.com. Pretty soon you'll email me Stacey at Club 1920 one.com You're going to be hearing a lot more about this because I'm so excited about it. Yes, I know, we might not have a lot of events this year, that's fine. We're going to have events, eventually, in the diabetes space. Again, we're gonna have lots of events, and social media, Facebook, even things like Eventbrite are a terrible way to get the word out about them. And it shouldn't be work to find them, you should be able to just raise your hand and say, I want to know about this stuff. And it should automatically come to you. And that's what I'm hoping to do here. Okay, back to our regular schedule with the podcast. We will have our Wednesday in the news that's live at 430. Eastern on Wednesday on YouTube and Facebook, and then 445 on Instagram. And then that turns into an audio podcast episode for Fridays. And hopefully next week, we're back to Tuesday and Friday. And we won't do any of this nonsense of pushing episodes around. But I do appreciate your patience. Again, I didn't want you to wait a week for this interview. All right, thank you as always to my editor, the very flexible and understanding John Bukenas from audio editing solutions. And thank you so much for listening. I'm Stacey Simms. I'll see you back here in just a couple of days until then, be kind to yourself. Diabetes Connections is a production of Stacey Simms media. All rights reserved. All wrongs avenged
In this week's podcast, Medtech Insight editors Marion Webb and Reed Miller discuss the latest news from the American Diabetes Association conference as well as an interview with Dexcom CEO Kevin Sayer about the company's strategy in the blood glucose measurement market. The archive of Device Week and the rest of Informa Pharma Intelligence's podcasts are available on the Informa Pharma Intelligence channel on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, SoundCloud and TuneIn - and also now on Spotify Podcasts - and via smart speakers if one of these platforms has been set up as your default podcast provider. Articles discussed in this podcast: Dexcom, Abbott File Dueling Lawsuits On Diabetes Management Technology Exec Chat: Dexcom Continues To Evolve Blood Glucose Measurement Market ADA 2021: Encouraging Trial Data On CGMs, Insulin Pens, Digital Solutions, And More Needles Are Out, Future Tech Is In, For Blood Glucose Measurement Market Intel: Glucose Monitor Market Set To Explode As Patients Access Better Devices
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Click here for iPhone Click here for Android Episode Transcription below Stacey Simms 0:00 Diabetes Connections is brought to you by Dario health. Manage your blood glucose levels increase your possibilities by Gvoke Hypopen the first premixed autoinjector for very low blood sugar, and by Dexcom help make knowledge your superpower with the Dexcom g six continuous glucose monitoring system. This is Diabetes Connections with Stacey Simms. This week, a Dexcom update from the company's CEO. As usual, we have a long list of questions from you covering everything from adhesives to watches to more about the upcoming G7. Kevin Sayer 0:41 And the goal is to simplify CGM for everybody across the board. What I often say is everything you love about G6, you'll love more about G7. The size is so small, you don't really recognize it's on your body. It's really a great profile a little bigger than a nickel Stacey Simms 0:56 CEO Kevin Sayer will also share details about how they're preparing for the G7 rollout once it's approved, as well as details about Medicare and use but their pump partners. This podcast is not intended as medical advice. If you have those kinds of questions, contact your health care provider. Welcome to another week of the show, always so glad to have you here. You know, we aim to educate and inspire about diabetes with a focus on people who use insulin. I'm your host, Stacey Simms, my son Benny was diagnosed back in 2006. Just before he turned two he is now 16 and a half my husband lives with type two diabetes, I do not have diabetes, but I have a background in broadcasting. And that is how you get the podcast. My usual disclaimer, whenever we have them on Dexcom is a sponsor of this show, you will hear their commercial later on. It's because we love the products. But when we have people from Dexcom on as guests to give you information, they don't tell me what to ask or what to say outside of that commercial. And I just want to take a minute to say I very much appreciate Kevin Sayer and others from Dexcom being so accessible over the years, you know, they don't always answer my questions, but at least they come on and address them and listen to them. There are a lot of companies that are very reluctant to even do that who won't come on the show. And that's really unfortunate because you as you listen, and you know the diabetes community overall, I'm very much entitled to speak to these people and to these companies. So I will keep pushing nicely, but I'll keep pushing, I promise quick heads up there will likely be no longer format episode like this one next week. I'm still gonna do the in the news episodes that I have added live on Facebook and then turning them into podcast episodes. But I am as you listen, if you're listening as this episode is going live, I met friends for life. I'm at the conference. They're having it again. I'm so excited. It's the first diabetes conference I have attended since February. No, since the first week of March of 2020. I went to a JDRF conference in Wilmington, just as COVID was beginning it was very weird. If you did anything any kind of public event in March of 2020. You remember that? But I'm back. They're back friends for life. And I really don't want to rush out an episode. But if anything exciting or you know breaking news happens or I'm able to record something and put it out I will but just a heads up likely no episode next week. Alright, and this week, not much of an introduction needed. Kevin Sayer is the CEO of Dexcom. And this interview focuses on some of what came out of the recent Ada scientific sessions and att D conferences. But mostly I share your concerns and your questions. We've covered a lot of these issues before, I don't ask a lot of follow up about things that in my opinion, you can easily Google up as usual, I had limited time with Sarah, who was doing back to back interviews. So if you have a specific question or if things went by very quickly, definitely jump into the Facebook group. You can comment on the post with this episode. We have some amazing members who will answer your questions Who will show you where to find the information. It's likely a previous episode, but we have people in clinical trials with people who were in on a lot of the investor calls they listened they take notes, they're fantastic. So if you haven't joined Diabetes Connections, the group on Facebook I highly recommend it. my interview with Kevin stay here in just a moment but first Diabetes Connections is brought to buy Gvoke Hypopen and you know low blood sugar feels horrible. You can get shaky or sweaty or even feel like you're gonna pass out. There are lots of symptoms and they can be different for everyone. I am so glad we have a different option to treat very low blood sugar Gvoke Hypopen is the first auto injector to treat very low blood sugar Gvoke Hypopen is pre mixed and ready to go with no visible needle. Before Gvoke people needed to go through a lot of steps to get glucagon treatments ready to be used. And this made emergency situations even more challenging and stressful. This is so much better and I'm grateful we have it on hand. Find out more go to Diabetes connections.com and click on the Gvoke logo Gvoke shouldn't be used in patients with pheochromocytoma or insulinoma visit Gvoke glucagon dot comm slash risk. Kevin Thank you so Much for jumping on with me another busy time for you as so many presentations, lots of studies, lots of news, lots of upcoming and anticipated news. So I appreciate you spending some time with me and my listeners. Oh, thank you for having me. It's always fun. Let's set the table a little bit here. We are following up on the ATTD conference and you are in the midst Dexcom as we're speaking of ADA, this is all still virtual though, right? Kevin Sayer 5:25 It's all still virtual. Yeah, I was looking was hopeful earlier this year, it might be in person, but not yet, probably not till next year. Stacey Simms 5:33 Well, as we look through the news that is coming out of both of these conferences, I could just start out by saying it's kind of I'm not sure victory lap is the right phrase here. But it does seem that almost every study is basically Kevin CGM works, it's good. It helps we get better outcomes from it. So let me just give you a moment to talk about some of that. Because there were so many we can't really touch on all those studies. Kevin Sayer 5:58 There are so many studies, and it's good for a number of different groups as well. You've got all the automated insulin delivery studies, and other the Medtronic product all these other studies are powered by Dexcom. You've got stuff in the UK, France, Insulet Tandem in the US, there's a lot of good news on the automated insulin delivery system front. And all these works are powered by Dexcom G6 right now, you've got studies that we presented at att last week, or that were presented by physicians that were very well aware of the mobile study, which was for patients with type two diabetes who are on basal insulin only. You know, when you start a study like that, it's kind of a risk, because you asked yourself the question, what happens if it doesn't work? Well, it works. And what we learned is these patients, even though they're not making a decision every four or five, six hours, because for eating, they are making decisions about what they eat, and what they do and how they exercise when they can see data. And they can see the effects of what goes on in their lives. And their timing range goes up significantly, if they can see what their time and range is, you know, they've been operating in the dark, and people would argue that they don't need it all the time, like I do. And so that study, we think is just really good and will be the basis, hopefully someday for getting CGM coverage for that group of patients. And so we'll push on that one. There was another study we had last week, or at ATD. Early in the month, published in Belgium, where a coalition of diabetes gurus I guess over there's best icon, it's really all the leaders in the Belgian diabetes community took a bunch of intermittent CGM users and put them on Dexcom G6 for an extended period of time. And then we've looked to see what happened. And what we saw is on real time CGM, the patients are better in every category, every single category, time and range, hyper hypo, you name it, they did better. So we really did validate the Dexcom equation over competitors with that study. And we think it's very important. I realize real time CGM, it is important, it is important to data be accessible. And the alerts are something that you can use. There are other studies being presented by other people in the type two who are reading Kaiser's got a study where they show patients do well on doulas got several studies, they're across the board. And the evidence is building for these other markets. But it starts at the beginning, obviously with automated hands on delivery and, and we work our way down. But we've had information presented across the board showing the utility of Dexcom. And if you've been to this study 10 this meeting 10 years ago, like I was when I first started here, my literally my first month was my first Dexcom ada, nobody even knew who we were. And those who did said yeah, products not real great. So times have changed pretty dramatically. Stacey Simms 8:41 Do you remember what what that first study that was presented at ADA or ATTD? which one it was that you were there for 10 years ago? I'm curious that back in the day, Kevin Sayer 8:50 yeah. First study, we didn't even present studies. Back then we, I will tell you the most important study we did, we did a study in where we first got ADA recognition, we did a study with our G4 system against a competitor in Europe. And we got a bunch of recognition there. And then the next study that really got us a lot of recognition in Ada meeting was our diamond study where we show the people on multiple daily injections. If they went to CGM, they would get much better results. What it was hard for me to learn is you don't say I want to do a study like this and get it done in a week. It takes a couple of years to accumulate all the proper data, process it develop all the subsets and everything. And so my patience has been has been level set with respect to studies like this. And there's multiple studies going on in the field that will be present over the next several years. Stacey Simms 9:44 All right. Well, that's a really good segue to moving ahead, because, as you know, my listeners are very interested in this technology. And the slide that probably got the most attention in our groups was one that was presented at ATTD about introducing the Dexcom G7, showing all of the features of this. So let me I'm not going to go through all of them, obviously. And you and I've talked about this many times before, but faster warm up. It's smaller, simple application all in one. This is all still part of the plan, as we had talked about before. Yes. Okay. Kevin Sayer 10:20 Yeah. And, you know, we started working on the G7 before G6 was even in clinical trials. The G7 is a project we've envisioned for a long time, verily, actually was Google Health before then, verily was a partner with us in designing this product, and we working out for quite some time. And the goal is to simplify CGM for everybody across the board, what I often say is everything you love about G6, you'll love more about G7, the size is so small, you don't really recognize that it's on your body, it's really a great profile a little bigger than a nickel. It we're running this study with arm and abdomen indications. And while patients were in wherever they want, we're going to show you that it can be worn wherever you want. And I think that's a big deal that we go ahead and do the work to do that. The faster warmup is kind of mind blowing when you put a g7 up and then you look after you pair it. And then you look and say you only got 25 minutes left, it's like, oh, wow, I don't have to do the two hour countdown. You know the accuracy and performance that Jake presented. ATTD shows that we're not, we're not ever going to go easier on the performance side and say good enough, we always push ourselves to offer something that will keep people save and confident with what they have. The app is completely new, we'll build things into the app over time, like automated, the frequently asked questions feature we have now but we're just gonna keep making it better. Some of the features of our clarity system will ultimately be in the app. So you'll get more information. When you go to it and look at it out of the get go. You know, we'll get it approved. It'll be a while before our partners have integrated their systems. But we're working with Insulet and Tandem already on G7 integration, I it'll be able to talk to multiple devices at the same time. Its manufacturing cost, ultimately will be less expensive. It's been designed for an automated process. And we've got fully automated lines up and running to assemble the G7 sensors we have in fairness to have automated G6 lines up and running now to but we've got special transmitter lines and center lines and different those kinds of things. It is going to be a really the most advanced CGM ever Stacey Simms 12:25 Well, you've touched on a couple of listener questions already in that testing alternate sites, including arms integration with the systems that are already using G6, so I don't want to spend a lot of time going in depth on things that you've mentioned. But in the slide it said direct to watch capability. Right back to Kevin clarifying what was meant in that slide. But first Diabetes Connections is brought to you by Dario Health and bottom line you need a plan of action with diabetes. We've been lucky that Benny's endo has helped us with that and that he understands the plan has to change as Benny gets older, you want the kind of support to take your diabetes management to the next level with Dario. Their published Studies demonstrate high impact results for active users like improved in range percentage within three months reduction of a1cwithin three months and a 58% decrease in occurrences of severe hypoglycemic events, try Dario's diabetes success plan and make a difference in your diabetes management. Go to my daario.com forward slash diabetes dash connections for more proven results and for information about the plan. Now back to Kevin Sayer, answering my question about what the company means when it says the Dexcom g7 has director watch capability. Kevin Sayer 13:44 capability. Yeah, it won't go there first pass. But we had to have different electronics and a different radio set to go director Watson what we have in G6. And it's easier to get us to change and is to get Apple changed or to change their watch. And so as we were doing the g7 system, we did contemplate that. So it is configured to do so I do not believe it's in the first release. But it will be not long after that. We'll have a direct watch capability. And we know people really want to watch presents interesting problems. And we can all sit and say we want that. But you have to charge your watch every day or at least every 36 hours. Where are you getting your alerts if you're direct to watch and it's on the charger. And you're in different parts of your house. There's complexity sit a watch that go far beyond just direct to connect. And particularly with the FDA who've used the alerts in the alarms. I think connectivity is so important that we had to make sure we do it right. So we'll work on that and get it wired appropriately. But I look I know what something I would want If I were a user. So I we continue to push for it. Stacey Simms 14:44 Just to follow up on that. When you say it won't be in the first iteration of it. But you know, it'll it'll be it's capable. It'll come that it kind of implies that you figured out what to do with the alerts and alarms when someone hangs it up to charge. Kevin Sayer 14:56 I don't know what they have figured out. I just know they're addressing it. All right. I have to plead the fifth, I just as I've asked that question, they said, Well, here's a problem. How are you going to deal with that? I said, Well, you guys don't have to tell me. They'll come up with the right answer I Stacey Simms 15:09 So I'm sure they will, but to say direct to watch capability, there's a little parentheses that says when we figure it out, oh, wait, I know we're working on but Kevin Sayer 15:17 okay. But Stacy, we couldn't even go direct watch before with the electronics. We couldn't go direct to watch with a G6 transmitter, the g7 electronics stack and configuration is such that it can go direct to the watch, we could not watch G6. Stacey Simms 15:32 Okay. Many more questions. My listeners are very, of course interested in the adhesive changes is the G6, two G7 change. I know you're addressing this in your testing, we've got emails from people who are in different trials for adhesive and reactions and things like that. And I have lots of questions people say it's getting better other people say it's getting worse. Anecdotally, it's very difficult, obviously, for me to now talk to you a little bit about those changes and how it's improving. Kevin Sayer 15:58 Well, we've tested numerous adhesives before we landed on the adhesive we we selected for g7, one of the reasons we kept the product life down to 10 days is to make sure we have enough adhesive to get to that 10 days, we'll be putting the overpass in every box. So if somebody wants an overpass, they don't have to call us. So everybody should be thrilled with that one. And it's quite easy to use, we're hopeful that there's no allergy. With G7, somebody's always gonna have a reaction does just physiology, but we're working with new tapes for G6 already, where it will hopefully have something the things that cause a lot of the allergic reaction in G6, we've eliminated from the G7 manufacturing process. So we're hopeful that a lot of this stuff goes away on its own, we'll monitor it very quickly. But we've already got four or five other g7 adhesives in test in addition to the ones that we're going to launch with, to make sure we can create better options in the future if we need to. So you know, stay tuned on that one, we are comfortable. As I sit here, we will not have the same level of reaction that would have at G6 when we change it. But yeah, we won't know till we're out there. Yeah. Stacey Simms 17:10 And you mentioned the 10 day were and part of that being you for adhesive. But my understanding is that the idea is for 14 day wear for Dexcom. She said eventually, Kevin Sayer 17:19 eventually, eventually not again, that first pass or get it approved with 10 day data, very important to us is that we provide our customers with the experience they paid for and they signed up for. And we've looked at competitors reliability data, how many make it out to 14 days, or how many make it seven days if they only have seven, and we look at, it's one of the key management indicators, we monitor how many of our sensors are making it out to 10 days, and we've set a pretty high bar for how we want our system to work. And while we could have lost a longer lasting product, we wouldn't have hit the percentages with the configuration that we have. And so we said, OK, 10 days is enough. Our patient base is fine with 10 days as long as we deliver on the 10 days that we promise. And we'll get into longer live trials literally as soon as we're done with these and hopefully move it over. Because that does cost us a lot less and give us more pricing flexibility over time for the various groups. But for now we'll go 10 days, mainly, so we have more reliability. That's the biggest reason. Stacey Simms 18:22 I have a few more G7 questions, but they're about pricing and accessibility, why? Kevin Sayer 18:26 You know what I can I can answer most, okay, because we can't really go address pricing until it's approved. Right. And we have as we put our G6 contracts in here together over the past couple of years done so in anticipation of a g7 product to whereby, for example, for Medicare, it's a fixed charge per month. And for many of our insurance contracts, it's resembling more that type of business arrangement, we're hopeful that we can transition to g7 very quickly. But we will have to go to all your payers and get G7 covered before they'll pay for it. We're hopeful that'll be a quick process. But in the meantime, G6 is a great product and people will be able to use it, I can't give you a timeframe as to how long it'll take will have to go to CMS will have to go to all the Medicaid groups as well, what we're trying to avoid. And let me repeat what I don't want to deal with is one of the things I dealt with with the G6 for a long time, we didn't have enough inventory of production capacity to get it to every group. So the Medicare population was stuck with G five for quite some times those emails were not good. We want to make sure it's equal access when we can get it in the channel for everybody. And we're trying to build that type of capacity. Stacey Simms 19:34 A couple of what if questions, just kind of looking down the road JDRF recently announced that they are looking for and this is the very beginning. So as you listen or as you're watching, this is not in the works yet. This is a call for research that they are looking for a CGM that could also measure ketones, and I haven't seen any companies step up yet publicly to say yes, we're working on that we'd like to be part of that is that Anything that Dexcom is thinking of doing. Kevin Sayer 20:02 We've explored this for quite some time long before the JDRF initiative. And the question I keep asking, is continuous ketone measurement important that we know that for the pediatric world that if you measure ketones continuously, you might predict dangerous decay moment before it happens. But at what cost to the system? And is there a cost benefit associated with this? So we're setting all those things? We're in the learning phases, we think we have a platform that can do that. But we've got to decide do you sacrifice glucose accuracy? If you throw a ketone sensor on there? There's a lot of answers. We don't have yet. But we're in the early phases. And we've talked with JDRF and others about it, is there a better way to measure ketones that might be easier and less expensive? I don't know. We've looked at several other analytes to go with our system over time. And I think in the future, that'll be some but that's not coming from us for at least three years, if not longer. Stacey Simms 20:57 You've looked at other analyze satellites, tell me about what else has been looked at just for free? No. Kevin Sayer 21:03 Well, I won't go into all of them. I certainly look at lactate from a stress level. And for physical fitness, for example, there are a lot of athletes, you'd like us to produce a lactate sensor to whereby they can measure the progress of the physical fitness. There's also used for lactate in the hospital environment with we think with respect to predicting things sepsis over time, but those are you know, that's one of them. And we've looked at a few others and fail, I won't go into all those. We've looked at some that may be promising. What we find from time to time is Yeah, what we'd love to measure but we can't is insulin on our wire. There are any way we could measure insulin in addition to glucose, wouldn't that be awesome? We know exactly how much insulin you have on board. And we know exactly Well, we can't we we've not been successful at that one that would require a different technology than what we have. So we look at all of them. And over time, we think we'll have some some good stuff there. But not for a while. Stacey Simms 22:00 Um, you know, you mentioned hospitalizations. And last year we talked about the CGM program in hospitals. I forgive me I, there were so many studies at ADA and ATTD. I don't know if this was presented. But let me ask a general, how is it going? Are hospitals adopting and adapting to you are Kevin Sayer 22:16 they are adopting and adapting is harder than adopting? Yeah. Because, you know, this is a device that was designed for your listeners. And for you. It wasn't designed as a device that was designed to be used in a hospital room with all of the cybersecurity and connectivity issues of a hospital. Where do we send the information? How do we get it there. And and so we've got to solve the workflow issue to make this meaningful in the hospital environment. Over time, what we have learned is our technology is more than good enough to go there. And that the places particularly where you have an endocrinologist very heavily involved in treating the diabetes patients in the hospital rather than a cardiologist or somebody else, when there's an endocrinologist involved, we can go very quickly, they can learn some of the hospitals would take an approach, let's put this on everybody. Others would only take an approach. Let's put this on severe cases. So there have been different protocols used. But by and large, the response to CGM in the hospital has been very, very good. And we think it is a great market for us over time, we got to work on the proper configuration for workflow. I mean, one of the best examples, how do you get the data to the medical record? Because everything in the hospital goes to the medical record? How do we make that seamless? We haven't figured that out yet. And that'd be important for all of our users even outside the hospital. Imagine how much easier would be to go to your doctor and have your Dexcom date already sitting in the medical record when you get there? We're not there yet. But we're having a lot of good discussions on that front. Stacey Simms 23:42 One of the topics that's been kind of in the community recently, and I don't think it's so much Dexcom. But I want to ask you, anyway, is this issue of and you mentioned, athletes who want to measure certain things of people without diabetes, using Flash glucose monitoring, or continuous glucose monitoring? I'm curious is that a market that Dexcom is looking to pursue? I mean, the g7 is smaller, it's lighter. And you know that I'm asking this because we've talked many times before, people who use insulin, are very much afraid of not being able to afford being left behind if many, many, many people who may not use it in the same way, started adopting these products. Kevin Sayer 24:19 Let me address that in a couple of steps. Let's talk about the use case. First. There are people a lot of people using Dexcom, who do not have diabetes as a health and wellness tool. And there are a number of apps that are being developed that require glucose information to level set your nutrition now possibly type two diabetes or pre diabetes, but there are groups and some groups with some very interesting ideas as to how to change your diet based on glucose data to make you healthier. We were used many years ago on the biggest loser with every patient that came in the door and the one of the production people I don't remember which one might have been the physician came to me and said you need Yeah, the diabetes business you can make a lot For many weight loss fall, we're not getting out of the diabetes business, that's where we are and where we stay. One of the things we've contemplated with g7 is the fact that we're going to go to more people. And we're going to go to more people than just the type one population, we plan on having capacity to build over 200 million sensors, before the end of 23 200 million sensors, you can be more than enough for the intensive insulin using community. And as far as cost will cost comes down, if we can sell that much in volume. Now, Stacey Simms 25:30 you're in the American healthcare system. Kevin, you know, this is not a market based device, we don't, I'm more, I'm more felt like, I'm sorry, Kevin Sayer 25:39 let me keep going. At the end of the day, as you look at what somebody pays for taking care of themselves with delivering insulin and powering insulin pump, that's a very complex task that requires a lot of customer service and support. If somebody is only losing weight, that's a different problem we're trying to solve, or if somebody is trying to titrate a type two drug, that's a different problem, I think we can find a way to make everybody happy, I don't think we're gonna disappoint anybody. And we planned this company and built this company to make sure that we have capacity to do all this, it's, you know, it is, one would look at me, I mean, we're gonna spend over a billion dollars on these factories over the next two, three years here. This is not a simple endeavor, it is a large investment. And this technology first goes to the community that we serve. Now worldwide, we have to expand worldwide, but get it to the group in the US as well. After that, we'll go the other places, but we're going to have more than enough capacity to do that. In fact, one might question if I'm insane, or we're insane to create so much capacity and the 200 million, quite candidly, the wave design the g7 lines, if we need to sample at a factory, we can do it very quickly. So this is a, this is a long term play for us. We believe this technology be beneficial to a number of people. And so if we can get if we can get all these sensors out there and all these uses, I think it'll be it'll benefit your audience while it'll detract from Stacey Simms 27:00 I know, we're going to run out of time. I've got two more questions. You've mentioned, Kevin Sayer 27:03 you got them all give you time for two questions. Let's finish. Alright, here's what you want. Stacey Simms 27:09 You mentioned already, lots of different apps are being developed not all diabetes. You know, a couple years ago, Dexcom announced the availability of the API, you know, developers can get data through third party apps. I'm curious, is there anything going on maybe behind the scenes? Or are you doing anything further to kind of foster more innovation in the early stage, like the development of other companies? Or is that a thing of Kevin Sayer 27:30 the past? No, I'll give you two things that we're doing. Number one, we have a live API use where you can have a live display of the data that's on file with the agency right now, it'll eventually get approved. So you'll be able to run the Dexcom app, did it go the cloud comes straight down to another one. I think that is a very good use of the technology. And it shows our willingness to work with others. So that is a good use. One of the other things we have coming, then we'll see where it goes. Our intended use case in the beginning was with major healthcare systems. But we have another app that we've shown pictures of it's an app inside an app. So let's say for example, you go to scripts here in San Diego, pick scripts, and scripts has their own healthcare app. And they also want to be the center of your diabetes care, particularly for type two diabetes, and they might have you wearing a sensor for something other than isn't delivering, we've developed an app that can reside inside another app, to whereby you can have your scripts experience, but you can touch an icon and you go to a Dexcom experience. And it, it's an app that resides inside the app and for security, we're able to keep others out that app inside the app concept is nothing we've done to commit to others, to give them an opportunity to use Dexcom technology in a different way. And yet preserving create their own experiences. We're very cognizant of the fact that we can't solve every problem, and there might be better experiences. And we can create. Okay, got time for one more. Stacey Simms 28:54 All right, last question. And it's more of a request. But the question is when you can This is from a couple of listeners, when you start rolling out the g7. any consideration for including and this may be an insurance question to one extra sensor a year. So three and a month? Kevin Sayer 29:10 What a wonderful question. And let me tell you something, we spend an inordinate amount of time analyzing sensor failure and returns and those types of things. We have run models that say if we give everybody if we just gave everybody x more sensors a year, we could avoid all the phone calls and all of the issues and all that stuff. We analyze this warranty policy all the time. And I think what you'll see with with G7 will have better tools, my hope someday just for your users, I would love to just diagnosis in the app in general, to whereby if your sensor fails, we know when we say your sensor failed, tap on this icon to get a new one. The flip side of that is we have a business to run and we can't do all free centers. So if it comes to the time if you buy 12 months for the sensors, and pay for 12 months for the center's let's make sure you get 12 months where the US If that means we ship you a free one because one failed, that's fine. But we're still, you know, we found one patient in another country, I won't say which one, they got 48 free sensors and purchased all of three, because they spent all this time. Those are the far exceptions from the rule, people will just want care. And so we are doing everything we can to come up with better policies to make it easier for you. because quite honestly, those phone calls cost us way more money. And they cause you guys frustration, we are going to make this better over time. That's a promise I can make. And let's talk about it. In a future conversation. I'll tell you some of the things we've done. All right, Stacey Simms 30:36 well hold up for a baker's dozen one of these days. But Kevin, thank you so much. You're always very accessible and on there really do appreciate your time. You're listening to Diabetes Connections with Stacey Simms. Lots more information at Diabetes connections.com. If you haven't seen it yet, a while back Dexcom sent me what they call a sizzle reel of their G7 what it looks like. So I'll put that video in the show notes as well. We have a YouTube channel. I don't put a lot of extra stuff there. But things like that Dexcom video, and the in the news, you can watch it if you'd prefer, I always put that on YouTube. And all these episodes are there as well, although they're mostly just the audio, but a lot of people listen, watch, they listen that way on YouTube. So that'll be linked up in the show notes. And I realized I haven't mentioned it on the show yet. But you know, this time of year getting your Dexcom or getting any gear to stick can be difficult lots of wet and sweat in the summer. And I've created a guide, seven top tips to get your diabetes gear to stick in the hot summer. Over the years, we've tried so many things. Benny has had a pump since he was two. He's had a Dexcom since he was nine. So a lot of you know trial and error. And this guide is available absolutely free. So I will put a link in the show notes. If you get the newsletter, you may have already seen it. But just in case you don't. And the show notes are always at Diabetes connections.com. Every episode has its own homepage with a transcription started that in 2020. And we are working our way back. If you're listening on a podcast app, there are shownotes there but in case you have problems with links or whatever, you can always go to the episode homepage. And as I mentioned, Diabetes Connections is brought to you by Dexcom. It is hard to remember what things were like before we started using the Dexcom I just had when he was nine, right. But he had diabetes for seven years before we started using it. And I guess I haven't really forgotten what that was like. But it's just so different. Now, when he was a toddler, we were doing something like 10 finger sticks a day. And even when he got older, we still did at least six to eight every day more when he wasn't feeling well or when something was off. But with each iteration of Dexcom we have done fewer and fewer sticks. The latest generation the Dexcom gs six eliminates finger sticks for calibration and diabetes treatment decisions. Just thinking about Benny's little worn out fingertips makes me so glad that Dexcom has helped us come so far. It's an incredible tool. And then his fingertips are healthy and smooth, which I never thought would happen when he was in preschool. If your glucose alerts and readings from the G6 do not match symptoms or expectations, use a blood glucose meter to make diabetes treatment decisions. learn more, go to Diabetes connections.com and click on the Dexcom logo. As I mentioned at the top of the show, I am at friends for life right now as you're listening. If you're listening as this goes live on the day that it goes out there, I'm traveling to friends for life, and I'll be here for the week. If you're not familiar. This is the largest family diabetes conference in the country. It takes place every July in beautiful Orlando, it's so hot, but it's a great time it's on the Disney World property. I don't usually go to the parks if my kids aren't coming. They they're not coming with me this year. So I doubt I will be going into a Disney park. But it's a fabulous conference. And I just want to let you know I'm doing a new presentation. I'm working up some new stuff. I'm very excited about it. And this one is called reframe your diabetes parent brain. And I gotta tell you, I am really sick and tired of seeing people berate themselves and talk about mom fail and tell themselves how terrible they are as parents. So this is going to be a session where we talk about the mistakes we've made. But then I want to help people reframe them so that they see what they've learned. You know, my whole philosophy is you mess up and you learn. And that's what this is all about. So I'm really excited to try it out. We're like overwhelmed. I don't know. You know, I think so many diabetes parents are so wrapped up in perfect now that they feel like if they go above 120 or 150 that they failed their children. So, gosh, I feel really passionate about it. And we're going to try that. And then for the fall, I've been getting a lot of questions about sending kids to camp, and I've gotten more and more of these over the years. You know, how do I send my type one kid to regular sleepaway camp. So I'm working on a presentation about that because fall, August, September is when a lot of people sign their kids up for next summer. So as you listen if you were affiliated with a group that does meetups or zoom calls, or in person And conferences, let me know I would love to speak to you and start these dialogues and help you really help your kids thrive with type one. We're not done. We're far from done right, Benny 16. But you know, he's a confident and happy kid. So knock wood. Where's all my wood to knock? I say all the superstitious stuff, right? I mean, I don't kid you know how superstitious I am. But I really hope that I can help other parents. You know, the idea here is not that you don't worry. The idea here is that you do it anyway. All right. Thank you so much for joining me. Thank you, as always to my editor John Bukenas from audio editing solutions. I will see you back here in a couple days for the in the news episode, but again, no long format episode, the following. Alright, I'm Stacey Simms until then, be kind to yourself. Benny 35:49 Diabetes Connections is a production of Stacey Simms Media. All rights reserved. All wrongs avenged
Dexcom CEO Kevin Sayer is here to share where Dexcom is at and answer your questions. We'll chat about Dexcom G7, Apple Watch, Adhesive and more. Show notes for people who are Bold with Insulin Find out more about the Dexcom CGM Get a FREE Omnipod Demo today Learn about Touched By Type 1 Gvoke Glucagon the only Pre-Mixed glucagon CONTOUR NEXT ONE smart meter and CONTOUR DIABETES app Add your voice to the T1DExchange The Juicebox Podcast is a free show, but if you'd like to support my work directly, you can 'Buy me a cup of coffee' at buymeacoffee.com/juicebox - Thank you! A full list of our sponsors How to listen, disclaimer and more Apple Podcasts> Subscribe to the podcast today! The podcast is available on Spotify, Google Play, iHeartRadioRadio Public, Amazon Music and all Android devices The show is now available as an Alexa skill. My type 1 diabetes parenting blog Arden's Day Listen to the Juicebox Podcast online Read my award winning memoir: Life Is Short, Laundry Is Eternal: Confessions of a Stay-At-Home Dad Follow Scott on Social Media @ArdensDay @JuiceboxPodcast Disclaimer - Nothing you hear on the Juicebox Podcast or read on Arden's Day is intended as medical advice. You should always consult a physician before making changes to your health plan. If the podcast has helped you to live better with type 1 please tell someone else how to find the show and consider leaving a rating and review on iTunes. Thank you! Arden's Day and The Juicebox Podcast are not charitable organizations.
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Digging deeper into recent news from and about Dexcom. Stacey talks to Chief Technology Officer Jake Leach about the news that competitor Abbott has received approval for it's Libre 2 CGM. What does that mean for the marketplace? She also asks Jake about G6 sensor issues, data gathering and more. Check out Stacey's new book: The World's Worst Diabetes Mom! Dexcom statement on data and privacy: Patient safety is a top priority at Dexcom, and we design our products to be as safe and secure as possible, as the data that comes into our system from CGM devices is extremely important for patients and physicians in understanding and improving diabetes management. Dexcom works with government agencies, industry partners and security researchers to apply current best security practices for medical devices to help ensure the integrity and availability of our systems. 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Click here for iPhone Click here for Android Episode Transcription: Stacey Simms 0:00 Diabetes Connections is brought to you by One Drop created for people with diabetes by people who have diabetes and by Dexcom take control of your diabetes and live life to the fullest with Dexcom. Announcer 0:16 This is Diabetes Connections with Stacey Simms. Stacey Simms 0:22 Welcome to a bonus episode of Diabetes Connections. So glad to have you along as always. A bit of an unusual situation this week in the very last episode, and hopefully you've heard it. I spoke to Dexcom CEO Kevin Sayer. we taped that episode before the ADA conference actually took place. You know, the time shifting nature of podcasting. we taped these interviews ahead of time and then a couple of days or a week later, generally, the interviews air. A a couple of days after taping that interview, the FDA approved Abbott's Libre2 and this is a different CGM is able to continue transmit glucose data every minute. And users can now set the system to send alarms when their glucose is too high or too low. And previously, you had to scan the sensor in order to get any kind of glucose reads. So that is a big change, and frankly, more direct competition to Dexcom. I have reached out to Abbott in the hopes of learning more and asking them any questions that you may have Dexcom though, immediately reached back out to me and asked if we wanted to talk more about CGM and how they stack up in the marketplace. Now, I am not going to pass up the opportunity to ask more of your questions. And that's why we have sort of a Dexcom double feature this week. My usual disclaimer Dexcom as you have heard, and longtime listeners know Dexcom is a sponsor of this show. That means they pay me to have a commercial in the show. That sponsorship gets them a commercial, it does not get them any kind of approval over content. And so what does that mean? It means I don't send them all the questions. I have of time, we don't plan out what we're going to say. I hope you know, as you've listened that I don't hold back on questions and criticism from them. But we do have that relationship. And it's really important that you you know it right because we were doing news interviews here. And this interview is with Dexcom CTO, Jake Leach. I will link up more information at the episode homepage. And as always, there is a transcript. So here is my interview with Dexcom’s chief technical officer. Jake, thank you for jumping on and spending some time with me and my listeners. We always appreciate learning more about what's going on at Dexcom. So thank you. Jake Leach 2:36 It's a pleasure to be here. Stacey. Thanks for having me. Stacey Simms 2:38 Absolutely. So I just talked to Kevin Sayer. We did kind of a high level, you know what's new, what's next? How are things going? Talking about the G7? It he's of changes that have happened to the G6 COVID delays, that sort of thing. My listeners had a bunch of questions as this is the backdrop of course of the Libre news that came out Abbott's Libre 2 have got approval for use of the United States. The number one question that my listeners had was, can they talk about the price difference? I don't know if that's a CTO level question. Jake Leach 3:11 Yeah, as much as you know, I'm involved in it. We basically, when we think about the cost of the product, the most important thing to be thinking about is making sure people have access to it. So insurance coverage, we feel really good about the fact that 98% of the private insurance companies do cover the product, as well as Medicare started covers it. And in states, many Medicaid systems do also cover the product as insurance. That's where we focus our time is really on on that. And we very few of our customers actually pay cash for the product. The vast majority of everybody gets it through insurance coverage. Stacey Simms 3:48 When I look at the Libre, and full disclosure here, my husband has type two diabetes and he uses the Libre and Benny my son has used the Dexcom since 2013. Now, wow, yeah, it's funny to think about how much time has gone by. But one of the things I look at with the G7 coming and the you know, the bit that we know about it is that it will be much more like the Libre in terms of the sensor and transmitter in one. Can you speak to that in terms of the G7 in terms of size, insertion, that sort of thing? Jake Leach 4:25 Yeah, so the G7 is, as you pointed out as an integrated sensor all in one, so it's the wearable device that goes on the body includes both the sensor, the transmitter, as well as the electronics inside the wearable that are both monitoring the center and then taking that signal and sending it via Bluetooth to the different integrated display devices whether that's a mobile phone, so a smartphone with an app on it, Android or iOS, or a insulin pump for automated insulin delivery systems. Other display devices, we have our receiver that is our proprietary handheld, some people really like that as their way to access the information. So our goal is to make it as interoperable as possible, which is one of the key important points about IC GM is that it's interoperable device Stacey Simms 5:16 you And with that, I always get hung up on it. Because when I heard about interoperability A few years ago, in my head, it seemed like, Okay, well, I could switch out my pump, or I could switch out my sensor, I could use a different brand with this thing and kind of mix and match. And of course, insurance for most of us is the biggest problem for getting different devices. But it doesn't really work like that, does it? I mean, if a Dexcom g seven works with say, Omnipod five horizon, and with a T slim X to control IQ, people aren't really going to be able to just switch out devices like that and use the same sensor, are they? Jake Leach 5:51 Yeah, as usual, it's more complicated as you look at it under the hood. But the key thing about the integration is that systems have to be designed To be able to be integrated. And so one of the big moves that we made when we transitioned between Gen four, and Gen five, and then subsequently Gen six, and as well as Gen seven, we moved to Bluetooth technology, which is a much more readily available technology within the display devices. So we moved to that. And when we did that, we designed an architecture that the intelligence of the system is all on the the wearable. So all the glucose calculations, all the information that you need is actually on the little transmitter device in G6, and will be in G seven as well. And so that is the device that can be accessed by multiple displays. If you think about it, you can use your mobile phone and the whole share feature that comes along with our mobile system, the remote monitoring feature, you can use that and at the same time, you can use a tandem controller to pump doing automated insulin delivery. And so the system is really designed to have that type of integration where you've got the right information in the right places and makes it interoperable. The systems have to be designed To be connected, for example, horizon five Omnipod five, the system that is in development by insolate is being designed to be integrated with both G6, that's what they're doing their studies with as well as G seven. So you have to do the design work and do the testing to ensure that it operates safely. But interoperability is a great thing. But it isn't as simple as just pulling and pulling everything it has to be designed and tested. Stacey Simms 7:22 Yeah, it was interesting. I in my head, I always had it as well, this, you know, I can mix and match, I can figure out what I want. But when I talk to technical people, they always kind of smile at that because they understand more of the intricacies, I think of what it takes within the technology to make that kind of stuff happen. Whereas as the user, I just want to hokey pokey it around and use what I want. But we'll see as it goes down the road. Some other G7 basics that my listeners asked was, will the G7 have a shorter warm up and does it have a lower MARD? Is it more accurate than G6? Jake Leach 7:55 Great questions. The warm up time is designed to be shorter than g6. And so we're As we're landing exactly how much shorter it's going to be, but it's definitely going to be a faster warmup. Also, the mard is the average difference between the sensor and the reference measurements that we measured the performance of the device and so on. That way, we want to ensure that we hit those iCGM standards. And so I think G7 definitely has the opportunity to perform better, but it definitely will meet those CGM standards, which are rigorous and important to ensure the product performs accurately throughout its life. Stacey Simms 8:30 Can you give me a hint on the warm up? Is it going to be more an hour and 45 minutes or more? Jake Leach 8:35 No, no, no, it's gonna be It'll be an hour or less. Stacey Simms 8:40 You know, just had to double check on that. Jake Leach 8:42 Yeah, no games there. We're just we're still trying to dial in exactly what's going to be to ensure we you know, the system has to be accurate. Second, it starts up but we do value short warmup time because we know how important it is when you know you're without the sensor data for that warmup period. So you want to make sure it starts up as fast as possible. Stacey Simms 8:59 Yeah, it's interesting too. Because I'm probably an outlier but previous to we use the control IQ system with tandem previous to using that the two hour warmup really didn't bother me too much. I mean, it was only two hours especially if you came from like we did seven years with no CGM. It's really did not seem to be that big a deal. But now that we're using this algorithm, and the pump relies on the Dexcom data, two hours just seems like way too long to be without it. Jake Leach 9:27 I agree. Really interesting. Stacey Simms 9:29 Speaking of wear time, we've been very fortunate. Again, as I said, we've used Dexcom for a long time we do not really have a lot of issues knock on wood with it. He's of sensitivity which Kevin mentioned in his in our interview together, we went over that, but also with where time, but a lot of my listeners wanted me to ask if you are really checking into the people who can and there are many who can never seem to make it to 10 days on a sensor. Right who really was it whether it's because they have a young child or the body chemistry for whatever reason, it does seem to be an issue that many people can't get the full life out of a sensor. Jake Leach 10:07 Can you address that? I know you're looking at it. Jake Leach 10:09 Yeah, yeah, I've got, of course. So a couple things there. There's quite a few things we've done over time. And we continue to research on this. There's two aspects to sensor longevity. One of them is how long the sensor can remain accurate. And so within our device, we have algorithms that are checking the performance of the sensor at all times. And so there are times when we detect that that sensor signal is not accurate and not meeting the CGM standard. And so we we actually shut it off and that's when you get on the display, you get the sensor failed signal. That's basically we detected that that sensor is not working properly, and it's not going to return to functioning based on the data that we're seeing from it. As you mentioned, most people are able to get 10 days out of the sensor particularly now that we've made some changes with the adhesive as well. But there are some people who don't and with those folks, we often spend some extra time with our tech support, and kind of walk through what their issues are. And there's quite a few things that can be done to help sensors last longer. I mentioned the adhesive, we recently updated our adhesive, we've added an overlay. that's optional, people can ask if you have access to the clear adhesive that goes over the top of the white one that comes with the product. And so we're looking at lots of different ways. Because what we found is everybody's a little different in terms of what their needs are and what works for them. And so we're trying to do is have as many options that we can to make the sensors stay on and heared. And it's really that's our philosophy around sensor longevity is if I really wanted to I could I could run a study and claim that G6 goes 15 days because I know the performance would meet that the problem is not all the centers would last that long. And so what we're really after is making sure all the sensors, as many as we can get out to the labeled timeframe, not just some of them. And I think that's one of the key differences that you'll see over time between different CGM companies is we're very focused on a high level liability, you're never going to get 100%. You know, sensors will come off and they'll get knocked off. It's a challenge. But it's one that we're very focused on trying to ensure that we can have the highest flow reliability possible. Stacey Simms 12:12 Let me just follow up on that, because sensor sticking is one thing, right? I mean, I know that that's an issue in everybody's skin is different. And you have the overlays now, and the adhesive does seem to be sticking better to many people. Butwhat about people who have no trouble getting the adhesive to stick in the wire to stay in, but get recurrent sensor failure? Are there any best practices for people who seem to get that over and over again, Jake Leach 12:36 there are and it's actually often comes down to, you know, sensor placement and you know, the sensors indicated for abdominal use. And so, we often instruct folks to try at different locations. We've also, if someone's really having repeated challenges and where they're getting those sensor failures, we do have specific capability with our tech support to work with that customer and look at their data and To help determine exactly what is going on, there's a number of things to we tend to see, that happens when people are more dehydrated. So you know, kind of making sure they're well hydrated and drinking water. But if someone's having consistent problems all the time, then we really want them to reach out to us and talk to our tech support. And we can get someone who is experienced, but you know that those types of issues to talk to them and look at their data and help work through it. Stacey Simms 13:22 I don't mean to harp on it. But I've just, and I'm, I know, you may not be the right person to try to pin down on this, so forgive me, but I'm thinking like, Is it an insertion thing is it I mean, we've, anecdotally, the community has said, drink water, stick in the fattest place you possibly can maybe rock the sensor a little when you're inserting it so it doesn't go as deeply in like it's more shallow. I'm just curious with all the data that you will collect in these phone calls. If there's any, like I said, a best practice that would help or if it's just you know, you've got to talk to your local rep, maybe get an in person or zoom call lesson or talk to tech support, but you know, just a more concrete business advice, I think would be so helpful. Jake Leach 14:01 Yeah, I think a lot of it does have to do with that insertion saying, like you said, you want to put it into a place where you've got good interstitial tissue. The other thing I've seen, too, is, um, you want to make sure that it's not at a place where you're going to compress the center a lot, you know, if it's under compression, you're not getting the same amount of perfusion there have glucose under the skin. And so that can also lead to issues. There is something recently that we've released in a product that has really solved a number of issues in that people were getting sensor failures during really high glucose excursions. We've sent some solved that problem with a new version of our transmitter that is now out in the market, almost everybody has that device. Now, it did make quite a dent in those we were detecting the algorithm was detecting that really high glucose as a potential issue. And over time, we've learned through looking at the data that that wasn't an actual issue until we were able to correct that in a recent version of the device. But yeah, it does come down to kind of working through sensor insertion and placement in Don't have data that validates, you know, some of those techniques that you mentioned that says it will work if you do these things. But we have heard from the community, and in our own times speaking with patients that it has been very helpful. And some of those concepts you just mentioned. Stacey Simms 15:14 Jake, I'm sorry, can I ask you to clarify? It may have gone over my head. But when you were mentioning the newer transmitter that is out, can you just clarify what you meant by when it was reading very high blood glucose? And that was affecting the sensor? And then it sounded like you said, but that wasn't the case. Can you just clarify that? Jake Leach 15:31 Yeah, sure. So what it was, was that during really high glucose excursions, the device was detecting a potential sensor failure where it wasn't the sensor failure. There's nothing wrong with the sensor. It was working. But you know, it's one of those things that once you once you get a product on the market, you learn more about it. And so we've made several iterations to the G6 even since it's been in the market for several years to improve it. And that is one of the cases that we saw patients running into, that we resolved with the newest version of the device is that it doesn't give The sensor error when when there was really high glucose excursion, Jake Leach 16:03 and I'm just curious cuz it does sound like you've resolved it. What is really high glucose? Like over 400? Jake Leach 16:10 Oh, well north of 4, 5, 6 hundred. Stacey Simms Oh my goodness, Jake Leach 16:14 yeah, we're really, really high glucose. Stacey Simms 16:16 So if somebody has a teenager who's like bumped up to 250 and getting sensor failure, that's not the issue. Jake Leach 16:21 That's not the issue. No, no, no, not in not in those, Stacey Simms 16:24 because everybody has a different idea of really high glucose. So Thanks for clarifying. Jake Leach 16:27 Yeah, that's a good thing to clarify. Because, like you mentioned, Stacey Simms 16:32 you know, another question that my listeners had was about data. And we've talked a little bit here about some of the data that you collect. And I don't know if it's different internationally, but to speak about the data. Jake Leach 16:43 Yeah, sure. Of course, first of all, data privacy is very important, both just fundamentally and philosophically as well as to be in compliance with all the global regulation we're seeing in this area of data privacy. There's a lot of advancements in the laws and regulate Around consent, and users granting access to their data, because in the end, it's the users data. We're just a steward of it. And so we take it very seriously. And so in our processes and our controls, that's how we proceed. So the data that comes into our systems from the CGM devices are used for things like share. So we provide the share system, the remote monitoring, that connectivity is super important. The data is also through that same system made available to the clarity application for use by the patients or customers or their physician. And then we also have that data in a safe lockdown repository that can be used by our tech support agents. If users are having track challenges, like we talked about tech support agents can actually log in and work with that user on their specific data. But Stacey Simms 17:48 hey, it's Stacey jumping in here. I need to insert myself into the interview with the episode here because we hADAn audio issue right there and it was completely my fault. So apologies. Dexcom is going gonna give you a full statement on data and privacy, and I will link it up in the show notes. So Jake can kind of continue his thought that way and give you the full statement. One thing he said that I thought was very interesting though was if you are concerned about privacy and want to opt out, you can just use the receiver all by itself. They don't collect any data that way. But then you can't use clarity or share the information online with caregivers or your health team. But if you want to opt out, that is one way to do it and still use the Dexcom system. I did follow up the data question with one about transmitting data and why it's limited to certain devices. If you use a tandem pump like we do, for example, the transmitter can send data to your phone and to the to the mix to pump but then not also to the receiver. Jake Leach 18:52 Yeah, the ad goes down into the specific engineering of the device deep down inside the wearable, for example to the transmitter producer. There's a battery in there. Every connection to a display device takes a Bluetooth communication channel. And so today, which is six, we support two channels, one for mobile phone and one for a medical device such as the insulin pump, or the Dexcom. receiver, it can support to have those connections to the med devices, because we need one available for a phone. We are looking in the future to allow multiple different types of devices you can imagine watches and other things. And so that technology is we're working the architecture of that. But the key there is that circuitry has to be low enough power that it doesn't use up the battery. We specifically designed G6 to be reliable for that 90 day period for the mere life. And so we couldn't put that system you can't support more than those two connection. Stacey Simms 19:45 Yeah, practically speaking for us. It's plenty. I was just curious about the thinking behind it. And is that going to be the same thing with the Omnipod five? horizon? I'm laughing because I have to figure out how to say that Omnipod five. will it be the same thing Work goes phone and PDM or something, or is that a different setup altogether? Jake Leach 20:04 It's a little different. But it's it with the G6 integration, G6 will support the Omnipod five as well as a mobile app like a G6 app. So it does support that. And as we look into the future towards things like g seven and future versions of G7, we are looking at architectures that could support even more display devices, more than just two. Stacey Simms 20:24 And I'll hope to talk to Insulet in the future to get the specifics. But as I'm asking you this question, that sounds a little ridiculous, because where would it show up on the pod? I guess it would show up on a PDF if you use that instead of a phone. Jake Leach 20:34 Yeah, I think one way to look at it for all of these automated insulin delivery systems is you want good communication between the algorithm that is doing all of the calculations for how much influence to deliver, you want a good connection between that and the glucose signal and the pump that's doing the delivery. That's part of the system engineering of the of the product and part of G6 was designed specifically for interoperability with so that it can support use cases like that Stacey Simms 20:59 you mentioned To watch, I did talk to Kevin about this. So I'm sorry to bring it up again. But my listeners are really waiting for that direct to watch component. Can you speak to that from your perspective? Jake Leach 21:11 Yeah, sure. So, you know, it's a it's a feature that we've been working on in development for for quite a while. And as we've worked through it, well, it turns out, you know, on our side, as well as on the leaves, Apple Watches is one of the one of the examples other than a significant amount of engineering. I think that we all underestimated when we first started talking about that product in the way that it interacts with the G7, as well as the phone app. And so we've been working with Apple closely know, over the last couple of years, actually, when when they announced this feature, it was really kind of a prototype feature. We started working with them closely on it, making quite a few updates on both sides to support that type of a feature. And so while we don't have any dates, where we're going to launch it, it's important feature that we know, adds flexibility to users lives and so we will continue to work on it. But at this point in time, we don't have a specific comment. Stacey Simms 21:57 Yeah, I'm curious um, before I let you go here, DiabetesMine, which is a really great news source, if as you listen, you're not familiar, I always read them. I think they're fantastic. They recently, earlier this year, put out an article, headline “39 potential new continuous glucose monitors for diabetes,” as some of these are never going to happen. A lot of these are, you know, non invasive wearables that, you know, look at a headline, and we may never see again, but some of these are going to happen. Jake, I know you all are watching the competition. You know, I know that, you know, Dexcom has enjoyed a long time here of not having a lot of competition, especially the United States. I'll give you the floor. Are you guys ready to take on these companies? Jake Leach 22:39 Absolutely. I think the just notion that there's that many different companies and working in this space is kind of validating the concept that continuous glucose monitoring is the standard of care for diabetes management and so perfectly comfortable with Mark people working in this space and we continue to drive forward all of our efforts on advancing the technologies, whether it The performance of the sensor the longevity of the sensor, particularly the ease of use, and the integration of our CGM with other devices. And you know from what we've seen, it's a very large opportunity. There's a lot of people who could benefit from CGM, so we're comfortable not being the only player. And we actually going to welcome expansion of CGM space across the globe with other companies as well as tech from Jake Leach 23:23 Well, thank you so much for jumping on. I feel like I got a double feature of Dexcom this week. So thank you for the info. It's always great to catch up. Jake Leach 23:29 I appreciate it. Stacey. Thanks for having me. Jake Leach 23:37 You're listening to diabetes connections Jake Leach 23:39 with Stacey Sims. Stacey Simms 23:43 More information in the show notes as always, the episode homepage and there is a transcript there there are important links. Same thing if you're listening in a podcast app, you should be able to get to the show notes. But you know some apps are weird and they don't post links and Apple podcasts which is the most common one. Used as kind of bad for that sort of thing. So I always put it on the episode homepage, which you can find at Diabetes connections.com. And a little bit on that audio error if you're interested. I mean, here's some inside baseball. But here's basically what happened. Whenever I do a remote interview, and probably 90% of the interviews on this podcast are remote, right? We're not together, I do them generally through Skype. And my computer is set up so that it automatically records when a Skype call is placed. I have a backup recorder. For those of you who are technical and want to know it's an h5 zoom, and it's fabulous. But it's an external recorder that's plugged into the computer and has an SD card inside of it. So this call like a couple I've done recently, our zoom calls, my computer is not set up to automatically record and you know, everybody knows zoom by now if you're not the host, you don't have the power to record well 99% of the time, I asked the host to please record it on their end and then send it to me as a backup and I just roll the h5 zoom over here. forgot to ask them To hit record, there's always a PR person on these calls, you know, Jake doesn't have to worry about it, they'll take care of it. But I forgot to ask her to do that. So I'm rolling on my end, but they weren't rolling on there. And then and this has never happened before, the SD card was full. And it's a huge SD card. I don't know what the data is. I'm not going to pop it out. Now, look, but you know, I cleared out periodically, but probably only once every six months. And oh, my gosh, I completely forgot to do it. So it just clicked off and stopped recording. I share this with you. Because I mean, we're more than 300 episodes in right. We're close. You know me, I know some of you, but I thought you might appreciate it behind the scenes look at some of the nonsense that goes on here. I was able to stop the interview, ask them to start rolling and then restart. But we did lose that part, which I hate about the data. I have talked to Dexcom in the past about data. I will link up the specific interview where I talked to them about that. And I will link up the statement that they gave me after the fact I asked them to email me some information about that. But you know, hey, we're not perfect around here and we don't pretend to be the next Episode shouldn't be an interview with tandem. if things work out. We're still in the process of moving some things around with ADA and breaking news, we always like to do the best we can. So tandem should be up next, please join the Facebook group Diabetes Connections, the group to stay up to date. And that's the best way to get your questions into these interviews. When I have something like this, I always ask and you guys are amazing at getting me great questions and letting me know what you want to talk about. So I appreciate that very much. Thank you as always to my editor john Buchanan's from audio editing solutions. And thank you very much for listening. I'm Stacey Simms. I'll see you back here next week. Until then, be kind to yourself, even if your SD card is full. Benny 26:45 Diabetes Connections is a production of Stacey Simms media. All rights reserved. All wrongs avenged Transcribed by https://otter.ai
Dexcom is featured in a lot of headlines coming out of this year's just-completed ADA Scientific Sessions. Stacey talks to CEO Kevin Sayer about everything from how COVID has impacted the G7 timeline, what the G7 will actually feature, adhesive changes and more. She asks why Europe got approval for back of arm placement and when we might see that in the USA and, once again, we check in on direct to watch progress. Check out Stacey's new book: The World's Worst Diabetes Mom! In Tell Me Something Good, a major league dream comes true. Read about Garret Mitchell here This podcast is not intended as medical advice. If you have those kinds of questions, please contact your health care provider. Join the Diabetes Connections Facebook Group! ADA Scientific Sessions Sign up for our newsletter here ----- Use this link to get one free download and one free month of Audible, available to Diabetes Connections listeners! ----- Get the App and listen to Diabetes Connections wherever you go! Click here for iPhone Click here for Android Episode transcription: Stacey Simms 0:00 Diabetes Connections is brought to you by One Drop created for people with diabetes by people who have diabetes and by Dexcom take control of your diabetes and live life to the fullest with Dexcom. Unknown Speaker 0:17 This is Diabetes Connections with Stacey Simms. Stacey Simms 0:23 This week catching up with Dexcom at the ADA Scientific Sessions a time when a lot of new studies are presented. But this year COVID-19 means delays for expected tech, including Dexcom G7, which was moving ahead with trials. Kevin Sayer 0:38 It was in full force in March it was gonna continue throughout the rest of the year that came to a grinding halt. We are in the process now of resuming and replanting that schedule. Stacey Simms 0:50 Dexcom CEO Kevin Sayer goes more in depth about the G7 we also talk about adhesive changes, working with European pump manufacturers and what else Coming down the line and tell me something good a major league dream comes true. This podcast is not intended as medical advice. If you have those kinds of questions, please contact your health care provider. Welcome to another week of Diabetes Connections. I am so glad to have you along. I'm your host Stacey Simms and you need to educate and inspire about diabetes by sharing stories of connection. My son was diagnosed with type one right before he turned two. He is now 15. My husband lives with type two diabetes. I don't have any kind of diabetes. I have a background in broadcasting and local radio and television and that is how you get the show. The American Diabetes Association Scientific Sessions is a conference where every year many studies many many studies are released and thousands of people gathered to hear what's new and to do some serious schmoozing Of course this year the entire conference was virtual, which is a terrific opportunity. You know maybe you're able to register and jump online. A lot of new media outlets offered their own platforms for you to kind of take part into the virtual conference. I've never been to a da. And while I don't plan on reading every study, you really can go online and see just about everything. I'm going to link up some of the major links, including the one right to the conference, and some of the abstracts. I think every abstract was on one of the pages I saw. So I will link up all of that information on the episode homepage. And I've already put a lot of it out on social media. And chances are good that as this episode airs the Tuesday after ADA that you may have read about a lot of these things you may have seen some of the studies, but I really like going in depth with the the newsmakers as we call them as I used to work in News Radio, but you know, the people who are putting out these studies, so this is the first of what I hope are many interviews over the next couple of weeks. I have confirmation from several of the pump manufacturers. I've reached out to some of the other tech people and people doing these studies and we'll have more information on And follow up on some of the information that came out. A quick disclaimer. As always, I always like to make this clear. Dexcom is a sponsor of this show, you'll hear their commercial later on, but they don't have any editorial control. And that means they don't tell me what to say or what to ask when I have Kevin Sayer or anybody on from Dexcom. longtime listeners know the drill. But I just like to make that clear. I'll also add we just had Kevin on the show a few weeks back, it did a whole episode when they announced that they were going to have CGM access to hospitals because of COVID-19. And I asked our Facebook group if it was a little too much Dexcom. But overwhelmingly, they said no, give us as much information as you can. So we will get to Kevin in just a moment. But first diabetes Connections is brought to you by One Drop. You know, I spoke to the people at One Drop and I was really impressed at how much they get diabetes. It really makes sense because their CEO Jeff was diagnosed with type one as an adult. One Drop is for people with diabetes by people with diabetes, the people Let One Drop work relentlessly to remove all barriers between you and the care you need. Get 24 seven coaching support in your app and unlimited supplies delivered, no prescriptions or insurance required. Their beautiful sleek meter fits in perfectly with the rest of your life philosophies send you test strips with a plan that actually makes sense for how much you actually check. One Drop diabetes care delivered, learn more, go to Diabetes connections.com and click on the One Drop logo. The ADA Scientific Sessions this year pretty different all virtual, but the information is still coming out. There's so much of it as always, and I was able to talk to Dexcom now this interview happened Friday just as a DA began. And while we were able to talk about things that were going to be presented over the weekend, there's always a chance breaking news happens since the interview follow along on social media for more information if anything changed, of course we'd put it out that way. And I will link up more information in the show notes. quick bit of housekeeping, there are a couple of terms that we throw around here that I want to make sure to just to define really quickly and kind of loosely, most of you are familiar. MARD is a measurement for CGM, the lower the mark, the better, the more accurate and we talked about that. We also mentioned iCGM. That is a new we're just about two years old classification from the FDA here in the United States, where an integrated continuous glucose monitoring system can include automated insulin dosing systems, you know, insulin pumps, it can integrate other devices like the Dexcom g six does with the tandem pump, that sort of thing. It also classifies it as a new type of device in a different class for the FDA, which means different things for approval going forward. I will link up more information on that but when he says i CGM, that's what he's talking about. Here is my interview with Dexcom’s Kevin Sayer. Kevin, thanks so much for talking to me. It hasn't been so long. Since we last spoke, but with the ADA once I get a roundup of everything that was happening, thanks for jumping on. Kevin Sayer 6:06 Well, thanks for having me again, Stacey. It's always fun, Stacey Simms 6:09 we have a lot to catch up on some things that we just talked about a few weeks ago. I'm going to start if I may, with something that may seem very mundane, but really caught my eye. And that is the approval in Europe, of placement on the upper back of the arm. We are a largely US based podcast, we do have large international listeners who are very interested in Dexcom. But can you talk a little bit about how that came to be? And as we have talked about before, many people here in the US were on the back of their arm, even though it's not FDA approved. So I guess the second part of that question is, are you submitting for approval here too? Kevin Sayer 6:48 Well, I'll answer all those questions. And let's start with your You are correct. People have been wearing this thing on the back of their arm for a long time, even though legally and regulatory, I cannot encourage that on a podcast. The fact is when you go to, in particular to like a kid's diabetes meeting, that's where you see all the sensors. And so we've seen that a lot in Europe, we had done some studies and there was some evidence presented that was compelling enough to the authorities that we can get that arm indication. And so we filed that and we got it. Also combining that in Europe, we got a pregnancy indication as well. So we were in a really good position with with respect to see mark with us regulations, we have that iCGM standard. And the evidence that we presented in Europe for approval isn't strong enough to meet those iCGM standards that we have with our G six system. But we are working on putting together some evidence in the US that we think would work and will be good enough. So we will ultimately seek a G six arm indication. I think the other thing to look forward to as far as that when we run our G seven pivotal study, we're going to run the study on In the back of the arm and on the abdomen and on for pediatric patients and on the upper medics as well. So we'll have three labeled sites there. And that will give our patients literally the optionality labor for label indications where the center and the in the most popular places. Stacey Simms 8:17 It's interesting, when you have a chance, I understand why you wouldn't go back with the G six and redo things like that, you know, I would imagine the cost alone would be prohibitive. But with the G seven in new systems, it must be interesting to hear from customers, not only things like arm placement, or I wonder if there are other things that you might test. In other words, I have always heard and I guess you can confirm I don't know if it's the case, that the reason that pumps and CGM should not be put through airport scanners is because it wasn't tested there. Is that the kind of thing that in the future we might see you You trying? You know, hey, let's test it with this condition. Let's test it under that condition. I mean, does that come into play? Well, Kevin Sayer 8:55 we do all of the testing required under federal regs. For those things, I mean, I've worn my CGM through scanner, never worn anything through the scanner through the suitcase, mind you better but I will tell you some of the things we do there is, you do have a very good question there. Because you do ask, do we listen and what are some of the things we try before we lock in on our product design and what do we test and some of the things we've we've talked through and thought about what g seven because we've been at this for quite a while we've had multiple size configurations. Before we locked in on what we did. We've made it smaller, we've made it bigger. We've liked it on the size we like it on because that was the optimal configuration for the electronics and you get to a point sometimes when things are so small, you can almost lose dexterity or the ability to use it properly. We know people want a smaller less visible sensor. As we look going forward. We will continue to focus on that. we tried numerous adhesives with G7 A in our set In our research work, what sticks the most without causing problems, etc. We, we even experiment, not just from a customer standpoint or customer feedback standpoint, but from a scientific standpoint, what's the shortest we can make the sensor and still get the outcome and the accuracy that we want. So we've spent enough time on the G7 system, to whereby we've tested a number of things of that nature to figure out what the best configuration we can get is. And we balance that with getting the product approved, and again, through the ICGM standards. So there will always be when we launch a new product, there will always be some features that we leave on the table that we don't put in it that we would like to put in the next generation. But ultimately, we have to stop and say that this is good enough. It's my job to make them stop. I promise you, the guys have more great ideas than you could ever imagine. But that is a very important part of our process to really listen and test those things. As we go. Unknown Speaker 11:00 Okay, so you mentioned you've brought up now the G7. So let's jump ahead. I do have some g six questions, but let's jump ahead and look at that. Where are you on the G7? Did the has COVID delayed things? I know you hate the dates out there, but let's talk about No. Kevin Sayer 11:13 All right, and I won't put a final date out there. But COVID has delayed things on a couple of fronts. The major one is the clinical study any of your listeners and involved in one of our pivotal studies where our patients go into the clinic for you know, at least half a day, at least 12 hours to have blood drawn and tested in the lab instrument is glucose values are raised and lowered. All those types of activities have ceased due to the COVID situation and we had a very aggressive clinical trial schedule. Literally, it was in full force and Martin was going to continue throughout the rest of the year that came to a grinding halt. We are in the process now of resuming and re planning that schedule, but we still don't know all the dynamics of the schedule and the best example I can give you if you go to a large Diabetes Center They might have had four or five patients at the same time in the room being monitored, while the social distancing Are we going to have to? Are we going to be able to have four or five? And what protocols are the various centers going to be running with respect to those clinical trials? So we are really literally out there rescheduling the pivotal study for the G7 system. That is the biggest delay. The other thing we have experienced, and it's to a lesser extent, is just the effect of COVID-19 on all of the people involved in this process. You know, I was talking to somebody the other day, and they used to quote, it takes a village to raise a child it sure as heck takes a community to build a product. And we do depend on a number of other suppliers who encountered their own COVID difficulties, the easiest one that comes to mind which you summon the molds for the plastic or an 18 month lead time and the molding company was hit by COVID and literally shut their whole factory down for a month. And that's not the mold makers. That's not a problem that just does Just reality, we put all of the operational pieces of the schedule back together. We're comfortable with those timeframes. Now we've got to get the pivotal study up and running and get it big enough. And I will go back to you know, I've talked about I CGM and the bar that the FDA has said, This isn't a study, we can go run with 80 patients and call it a day, there's going to be several hundred patients here. To the extent statistically we can come up with models to decrease the size of this study, we will, but we do analyze it, because the criteria are such and the one that they explained to me that rang the truest in the mid range of the good range of sensors, you know, timing range between 70 and 180. If we have 1000 data points, and if seven of those are off by 40 points, or 40%, the whole trials done, and our biggest source of error in the studies is not the sensor, and it's not because the centers aren't great because they are, there's just so many pieces of paper and so many things that have to happen. So we are really refining that process. Given the fact that we can't run studies now, we're very optimistic once we get them going, and we'll do well. We're going to run a study for Europe, in addition to that, and file that separately, so you'll hear more timeframes from us. But it's going to take longer than even a couple of months to have the perfect schedule laid out a timeframe is not coming for a while. Can you Stacey Simms 14:17 share anything about the G7? In terms of what makes it different? And why move ahead with a new type of sensor? Is it still good, Kevin Sayer 14:26 and I'll go back to my first statement to listening. The one feature our patients have all said they want a smaller, and that's pretty universal. When we embarked on this many years ago, we literally started with something the size of an m&m. Now the G7 is a little bigger than a nickel. It's not as small as an m&m, but it's still pretty small. And we wanted to do that. We wanted to eliminate some of the difficulties with respect to transmitters and pairing the whole G7 system is disposable. We also when we looked at G7, and when we started down this path We designed this from the very beginning to manufacturer in an automated manner. There will be humans manning the machines but these aren't going to be human lives. Everything else we've done we designed around the fact that we manually put everything together or have many manual processes now g six is about to the point where that will be pretty much all automated or manual lines will go away but we wanted to build a product that we could build 10s if not hundreds of millions of in a repeatable manner and our previous generations or product, even g six up until now I think g six has now crossed the barrier where we can build lots of them but build g five system says you could have never got to the volumes we anticipate getting to as as technology continues to expand and explode and i and i think what we've created and our goal which he said is to give us a product configuration that anybody can wear and then it will have multi uses. It's as big a step forward from G six is G six was for G five. Stacey Simms 15:56 When you say the whole system is disposable in the size of a nickel Retreat you want to avoid transmitter issues? Is it all in one is the transmitter and the sensor Kevin Sayer 16:04 transmitter and sensor all built into one unit yes Stacey Simms 16:07 I'm you know, having been with Dexcom for more than six years now and I think we started in the g4 Platinum I'm trying to visualize Kevin Sayer 16:16 it's very small for some pictures on our website. No, it's much smaller and much thinner and it literally if you were a G seven you have no idea on your body. Stacey Simms 16:25 Really interesting and you anticipated having a similar more similar you know accuracy as the G said Kevin Sayer 16:31 yes, yes, it has to meet the iCGM standards and and so we've we're designing it that way. We're designing the algorithm the pivotal studies along those lines. And right now what what is becoming very clear to us as we go through these statistics, Walmart is always important from an overall perspective, the iCGM standards are more important than than just the margin number is important that these things be reliable and offer the same experience every time. So we Certainly you have to have a good mark to be approved Android CGM standards, but the reliability of the centers is every bit as important. We're focused on both. Stacey Simms 17:09 Well, as we look forward to that, as you said, it'll be a while because of COVID and other delays. My listeners, as always have questions and one that has come up quite a bit. We'll go back here to the G six and current manufacturing is a question about whether the adhesive had changed recently on the G six. As always with me, it's anecdotal. I don't have access to studies or thousands of people. But we've noticed within the Facebook group that I run for the podcast that more people are reporting, rashes and problems with the adhesive with the G six than they had in months and years past and the question came up is has something changed? Kevin Sayer 17:43 Yes, it has. There's a very fine balance. On the adhesive side. We weren't here product for 10 days. We save this as a 10 day sensor, and one of our most common occurrences of replacing a sensor as it falls off, in fact, the most common one so for years, we have studied adhesives and wanted to make an adhesive change that would give patients a better experience and have that sensor last the entire 10 days. And so we did change the adhesive out to something that was more sticky on the one and we are very happy to report that we are seeing a great reduction in the number of sensors that fall off people. So we are delivering on end to the experience. On the other side of that we have seen an increase in allergic reaction to that new adhesive. We have some data on our website. And we have done some clinically based work for those patients to give them some options to whereby the adhesive will not have that same effect that there's some mitigate mitigations that you can make to do that. So if you contact us, again, I believe it's on our website or also you can contact our tech support. There are some clinically based solutions that we can offer. Stacey Simms 18:46 All right, so I will refer people to the website and we'll keep helping each other but I think people wanted to make sure and just get confirmation that something had changed. Kevin Sayer 18:53 Well we did change it we did Stacey Simms 18:54 Dexcom offers the free over patch when people request it you know to help it be more simple. Has that changed at all? Or that seems to be the same? Kevin Sayer 19:02 I believe, yeah, the over patches. So we'll say, Stacey Simms 19:04 Okay, I feel like this is almost like when I used to ask you about Android, but it popped up in my timeline that three years ago, the Apple Watch product came out and it was a huge press release from Apple about this is gonna change your health, this is going to change you know, everything. And in that article was, of course, and you'll be able to see your blood glucose from your Dexcom. They also would hope to get on your watch on your watch. Kevin Sayer 19:27 We're always supported it. We're not direct to watch it yet. That project has has proved to be extremely difficult. The architecture of a watch is different than the architecture of the of the mobile phone. And in the middle of that I believe there have been changes made to the watch architecture as well. We as we've looked at and prioritized our projects and our resources and we look at software things we need to work on. While that project is still on our list, getting more reliability went to patients each and every day has been above that. And this taken some precedent to it, we will eventually get there. But there's also some interesting issues with the watch that we didn't even contemplate when that release came out. And I'll give you the perfect example. You've got to charge your watch every day. How do you get that alert on your wrist? When your watches charging, and things of that nature, there is a different experience, and different safety features are going to be required to be implemented over time. We're working through it and thinking about it. We aren't ready and in all fairness, as we've looked at resources, if we're picking for example, between g seven and the watch, look, I love to watch you use I use all these tech gadgets all the time, and I put different ones on, we will eventually get there is a lot more complex than we envisioned when we started down the path. Probably the most loyal Apple Watch, where's our tech comm patience. If you're an apple watch on an Apple phone and use an apple watch those patients use the Dexcom app on that watch a lot. Even through the phone. The watch experience has been a very good experience for our patients who use it Unknown Speaker 21:00 What about other watches like Fitbit or devices like that Kevin Sayer 21:03 we display on the samsung watches or some of the Android platforms now we've had discussions with Fitbit. Fitbit just got acquired. And I think they're regrouping and figuring out where they go. I think it'd be wonderful to offer our patients solutions along those lines, it becomes a question of do you get the whole device safety experience on that display? And how do we label it and what do we do? But these are the things we're looking at and pursuing? Stacey Simms 21:27 Another question I got from a listener was all about can Kevin talk about other Dexcom partnerships with newer pumps, at least new to the US like, yep, so mad if I'm saying it correctly, and other you know, European and worldwide, pump companies, is there anything new to talk about with those partners? Kevin Sayer 21:45 You know what? We just signed an arrangement with ipsum ed to work with them, their pump will pair with our sensor. It'll be in Europe first. They will bring it to the United States at some point in time. They have also signed an agreement to license, our type zero technology, Viagra that we have that has been involved in numerous studies around the world and is the basis for control IQ as well. So they will use that algorithm and it will continue to work with our sensor. I don't know all their us plans, I won't speak on their behalf. So we'll see where that ends up. We do have research relationships with a number of entities getting to commercialization, we'll just have to see these partnerships. You know, I would tell you that the 10 of joint product offering is doing extremely well we get great feedback. The insolate study has started back up. I look forward to the day when all these things are on the market. Stacey, giving patients the choice to have these automated systems will be a wonderful thing for patients and they've been very patient waiting for us and for our partners to get them out. I think when the day comes it will be fabulous but we cannot pair with every single. It is kind of a hard balance. pairing with every single pump is a lot of work to support in house but we want To be interoperable, that we want to get products out, we really want to get solutions out there. And we're happy with the partners that we have. In the US, I think initiatives like the loop initiative where they're gonna develop an algorithm that could work on a number of pumps and number systems might be a very good option for Dexcom to pair with others because the pairing is done by them in the app, not necessarily by work by us. So over time, the interoperability strategies one will continue to challenge and we are prepared to work with anybody that can enhance patient's lives and help our business Stacey Simms 23:32 it just a clarification question you mentioned Dexcom owns the type zero algorithm, which is the brains let's say of control IQ really are the basis of it if it's used in another pump, if it's in the Yep, so mid pump, is it the same exact bit of software? Or do they are there changes or Kevin Sayer 23:50 tweaks? No, I'm I know that Tana has made changes to the app and how it works, but the funnel mental math and the algorithm will more than likely be the same. I can't speak Exactly. attend some, but I'm pretty confident it'll be a similar experience from an accuracy and from a patient perspective is the way it works. And then we're working with our type zero team to develop other algorithms, and advanced versions of what they've learned in the past. We are free to license to others as well. Stacey Simms 24:15 It'll be interesting to see how that evolves. And when we talk about interoperability, I actually have a little bit of trouble with that, because in my head, and I've described it like this before, it seems like it should be more like Mr. Potato Head, right? Like I have the base, and then I get to put the ears on that I want the eyes on that I want the feet or whatever. But it's not exactly that easy, right? It wouldn't be a question of like, grab a Medtronic pump, but I get to slap a Dexcom sensor on or you know, buy or anything like that, right? It's not No, Kevin Sayer 24:42 no, it's not that simple at all. And in all fairness, I think Dexcom has done a better job and design our product to be interoperable better than anybody else. And I can give you a very simple example. I tried to close this many years ago. Our transmitters designed to talk to multiple devices at this Same time to more than one. And that took a lot of time and a lot of engineering and a lot of dollars. And so I raised the question, why are we talking to multiple things? Let's just talk to one. They all kind of like I should know. Well, now think about things. Now you can talk to your tandem pumpers. You can also talk to a phone app at the same time. What a wonderful feature for our patients. And what a wonderful feature as our software changes or gets an advanced feature, that maybe our pump partners or a pen partner or somebody else doesn't have be able to talk to both is a wonderful opportunity for our patients if they want to use both apps. And I think over time, particularly as we look at refining your software experience, it seems to be more important. Stacey Simms 25:41 Last listener question was about compression lows. I don't know if what they're really called. But anecdotally you sleep on the place for the Dexcom is the circulation slows or for whatever reason you get a fake low. I'm sure you're all aware of this. are you addressing it you think it will be cleared up with the G7 Kevin Sayer 25:59 I don't know. It'll be completely cleared up for G7, I would hope it decreases because, and I can only speak from a theoretical perspective, the sensor is smaller and the transmitter is less bulky. So there might be less pressure pressed on it. But compression has existed in all sensors forever. I have asked the team to look at other ways to deal with the compression issue and come up with some ideas. And they have some very good ones. It wouldn't be in the first version of G seven. But I we've got a couple of thoughts that I won't share, because they're very proprietary. I think we have some good answers for compression over time. The question becomes, though, Stacey, and this gets back to the patient experience. And since your listeners are familiar with us, if it's compression low, do we still alert you and wake you up and tell you to roll over? Or do we guess what your glucose value should be and just keep going? What is much safer is to alert you and wake you up and say you're having a compression error roll over? It's not a real low. But do you all want to be woke up for with that type of error or would you rather is Wait for a half an hour and say I was just compressions con, these are the kind of things we shouldn't talk about, and contemplate within the engineering group, which is why these guys want to work here. It's really interesting. Stacey Simms 27:10 Hey, there's so much information that is coming out at hga that we haven't even touched on. And I you know, as you listen, I will link up a lot of the information. There's the GE six, two year anniversary study. There are a lot of information about the hybrid closed loop partnerships that's coming out. I'm curious, the launch of the G six Pro. Honestly, I'm not sure that too many listeners of this podcast would use a product like that, whether it's blinded or they just get it temporarily from their their provider. But talk to us a little bit about that. Who is that for? What was the demand like for that? Kevin Sayer 27:42 Well, the demand on that has been huge. And the demand starts in the physician offices. And literally, if you think about Dexcom, our pro product right now is a g4. It's not even g five and our physicians have never had the opportunity to be able to say to a patient, let me Let you have a CGM experience similar to what you would have if you're one. So for your audience in particular for patients who would like to know what CGM is like the physician can output a unit on it. This is exactly the G six system. The G six Pro is a transmitter to sensor in a single box. Patient wears it and it's disposed of at the end of the sensor where period, the reason you have the blinded app physicians have asked for it. We think for patients unblinded is obviously the way to go because they can learn what to do with their own management. But the fact is, for a physician, there's a baseline check as to, hey, how's my treatment working? Or how's this treatment working in a type two non insulin taking patient in particular, you can put that sensor on blinded for a 10 day period and get a readout and go, wow, this is working and this is not so the audience is very much from an educational and therapeutic perspective. In the professional environment. We have priced it in a manner to whereby the physicians can really acquire this at a reasonable cost. It will also be you know, at As you look at what's happened with COVID, as well, taking newly diagnosed patient and telemedicine, you can put a patient on this professional system. And if the patient uses the date alive, the physician can use the data live. As we've gone through the the virus situation, the the learnings we've had from our physicians about how CGM actually works. It's been really interesting. I mean, I get phone calls, do you know I can watch my patients from home I didn't know you could watch your patients from home and clarity, we reduce the three hour time lag, we've got near real time. And that's helpful. So you know, in this new age, where you have telemedicine and all the information that physicians need to get, we think g six pro fits in very nicely and we want patients to be able to have that experience and learn what index comm is like rather than than other things and learn the information they can get ultimately for us as timing range becomes the measure. Now let's take it a step further. If you're a physician and your key measure Simon range Your patient doesn't wear a sensor, you can just put a blinded Dexcom on him, send him home for 10 days and come back, download it, you can read it. And you know what that patient assignment ranges. It has a number of great uses for us and will be a platform for growth going forward, we think is going to be very, very, very important. Stacey Simms 30:16 I didn't realize it hadn't been updated since g4 that makes a lot of sense. No. And then before I have to go one more quick question. Last time we talked, we talked about CGM in hospitals. I know how long but how is that program going? What is the feedback? And can you talk about how widespread it's been Kevin Sayer 30:33 able to come? We've had interest from many, many well over 100 hospitals close to 150. And we're in quite a few of them. The interest has been great. It has taken more time for us to do this than we would have thought when we started. when everything started happening very quickly. We were getting requests from hospitals and people didn't quite know what CGM was but read about it that we literally thought 10% of our production might be going to the hospital and it hasn't been that great of a demand. We've learned the intricacies of hospital operations with respect to it and GE, we're sending you free phones fuse the sensor and you guys don't want to use them because you don't know if they're HIPAA safe. We've had to learn all these steps along the way. But where are we got it, and where it's up and running? Well, the results have been everything we'd hoped for the sensors performing the way we want it to it's accurate. We haven't seen major problems due to drug interference, which was a concern that has been an FDA concern over time, the ability of the healthcare providers to monitor from in the hallway, a finger stick administered by a healthcare professional, somebody timed it for many other days, about 15 minutes because you got to gown up, put on gloves, go stick the finger, okay, if you're doing a finger stick an hour, you're saving 15 minutes of nurse time every hour. For every patient, they don't have to stick the finger on. There's been a huge reduction in PPD. The patients are getting off the insulin drip faster because their diabetes can under control more rapidly. are leaving the ICU faster. They're going home healthier, all the outcomes. We hope for happening, the speed of which the uptake has been slower than we would like, but it is still going on and people are still expressing interest. And I, I think based on the places where it has been, I don't think anybody's going to let it leave. Particularly while we sit and anticipate what could possibly happen in the fall, we are going to gather data. And when we can gather data and get enough data to whereby there's a meaningful submission, or at least a discussion, we'll take that and we'll discuss it with the FDA and decide what next steps would be to get the labeling and to get a hospital usage approved. I think the products always belong there. I went through an experience personally with my mom many years ago, she had a heart valve replaced and it took them longer to get and she had type two diabetes. It took them longer to get her glucose under control than it did to get her heart valve and all the other pieces of her recovery then it was fascinating. I mean, they kept coming in adjusting insulin dosage, taking it up taking it down. And I kept saying I have something we could put on her to make It's easier, and no, no. So I do think it belongs here. It's a great use for the product. Stacey Simms 33:06 That's really interesting. Well, Kevin, thank you so much for taking some time to talk to me about this. A lot of things happening at once. And I always appreciate your time. And when you start the G7 trials, I know that we all go through the official channels, but you know, call me We'll get my son and Kevin Sayer 33:24 hey, we appreciate I always love to come on on your show. We always have a great discussion, and I'm happy to deal with any questions that come up. You know, I don't hide. Stacey Simms 33:33 Yeah, I appreciate that very much. Unknown Speaker 33:40 You're listening to diabetes connections with Stacey Simms. Stacey Simms 33:46 For information at Diabetes connections.com. As always, at the episode homepage, we do have a transcript as well if you prefer to share it that way if that's helpful for people that you know, easier to read it than to listen and just to be crystal clear, if it wasn't paying 100% choking. At the end of that interview, I could no more get into a clinical trial by talking to Kevin Sayer than I could, I don't know, get Benny a better wrestling birth by going to the NBS Linux department of his high school. I mean, I don't know about you, but that's not how it works for me. And we joke all the time being Penny never been able to get him in a clinical trial. We keep trying, I'm signed up all over the place. Maybe the word is out on what a pain in the butt I am. But I would love to get him in one of those. So we'll keep trying, but interesting information there. And I will link it all up at the episode homepage. Tell me something good in just a moment. Let's talk about baseball. But first diabetes Connections is brought to you by Dexcom. And you know, when we started using basal IQ a couple of years ago, that's the Dexcom G 610. to pump software program. I was so happy with it. And then with control IQ. It's just amazing. less work. better results with diabetes with a teenager. I mean, Benny always liked seeing his face GM numbers on the pump, right? We got that pretty much right away with tandem. But honestly, it was just more of a cool feature he really took us pump out to just look at it. There's some secret sauce, though, in first basal IQ and now control IQ, right? That just really is incredibly helpful. His range time and range has increased significantly, his agency has come down significantly, you know, I don't talk about specific numbers. Holy cow. Of course individual results may vary. To learn more, go to Diabetes connections.com and click on the Dexcom logo. Intel Tell me something good this week. This is a cool story that just because it's a cool story on its own, but I was alerted to this because in one of the Facebook groups I'm in, a mom posted a picture and this picture had to be at least 10 years old, maybe 1215 years old, of her son on a baseball team with another little boy both kids with type one and the other little boy was just dropped By the Milwaukee Brewers, Garrett Mitchell was selected 20th overall in last week's draft. Now, there's a lot of information here about baseball, I don't know. But I like this sentence, many heads a left handed hitter projected as going into the top 10. So the early take is the Brewers got a gym who dropped further than expected. And then they go in about like, well, his power numbers, and there are questions about this. But Wow, I'll link up one of the articles where Garrett Mitchell is quoted, and he really did talk about it. He said, You know, a lot of these teams, it did come down to diabetes, what teams want to deal with that, you know, what teams are comfortable with that? And he says, personally, I don't really see this challenge. You know, there are a lot of people who questioned him, but he says, I know how my body works. I know what I need to do. And he has been dealing with it since he was a young child. And I think it was really interesting that the story I'm reading this from isn't from a diabetes publication. It's not a profile on jdrf. There's lots of those and I hope we hear much more about Garrett Mitchell, but this is just a regular sport. story where the diabetes stuff comes way, way, way down in the article, so congratulations to him. Thank you for those of you who alerted me to this on Twitter, which is always great if you see something good like this, please tag me let me know. And of course we are efforting an interview with Garrett Mitchell because why not? I would love to talk to him. If you have Tell me something good story. If your child is starting to play sports, and I mean, forget about hitting a home run, you know if they just get through the game, and you don't run on the field. I'm kidding, but I'm not kidding. The parents know what I'm talking about. Right? If you have a Tell me something good story big or small. Let me know this is my favorite part of the show. Every week. I love sharing your stories. You could email me Stacey at Diabetes connections.com or just tag me on social media and tell me something good. Before I let you go more Ada stuff is coming. I am excited to have interviews on tap with a lot of other technology companies and we'll be sharing those in the weeks to come. There's a lot of stuff to unpack here. I also want to let you know and this is kind of selfish and I hate that these are all the same time every year but I guess this is a word season so I want to give you a heads up that the we go health and the independent podcast awards are coming up in a thankfully it's not a vote everyday situation I hate when people do that just just awful that they asked you to get your listeners to vote every single day What a pain in the ass for I'm not gonna win anything with that attitude. But I have been nominated for a we go health award on the voting for that, which is basically just please go ahead and like me on the wiegel Health site will open up in July. And I will be putting that out on social media, the independent podcast awards. We've been very lucky where some wood that I can knock. We have been named a top 10 Health podcast. That's a nationwide independent podcast award every year since the podcast launched and I love keeping that streak going. So I will be asking for your help there as well. Again, it's just a vote once please. And there's lots and lots of podcasts to vote for. Same with legal health. There's lots of categories to vote for. So if you know somebody else in the diabetes community or there's a podcast Guess that you like you'll be able to nominate and vote for them there. So more to come on that just thank you very much. I hate asking but that's the only way to do it. All right, thank you to my editor jump, you can start audio editing solutions. Thank you very much for listening. And Stacey Simms. I'll see you back here next week. Until then, be kind to yourself. Unknown Speaker 39:25 Diabetes Connections is a production of Stacey Simms media. All rights reserved. All wrongs avenged Transcribed by https://otter.ai
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This week, catching up with Dexcom CEO Kevin Sayer – overseas at the ATTD conference. We talk about everything from a G7 update, new partnerships, in-app notifications and those sensors that you’ve probably heard about getting stuck. We also talk about competition, customer service and a lot more. Join the Diabetes Connections Facebook Group! In Tell Me Something Good, a Miss America contestant with T1D has pretty stellar week – and it has nothing to do with her crown and sash.. this is about engineering . Check out Stacey's new book: The World's Worst Diabetes Mom! This podcast is not intended as medical advice. If you have those kinds of questions, please contact your health care provider. Sign up for our newsletter here ----- Use this link to get one free download and one free month of Audible, available to Diabetes Connections listeners! ----- Get the App and listen to Diabetes Connections wherever you go! Click here for iPhone Click here for Android Episode transcription (we're in beta so please excuse grammar, spelling, punctuation and the fact that AI can't figure out Dexcom speak) Stacey Simms 0:00 Diabetes Connections is brought to you by One Drop created for people with diabetes by people who have diabetes by Real Good Foods, real food, you feel good about eating, and by Dexcom take control of your diabetes and live life to the fullest with Dexcom. Announcer 0:21 This is Diabetes Connections with Stacey Simms. Stacey Simms 0:26 This week, catching up with Dexcom CEO Kevin Sarah overseas at a big diabetes Technology Conference. We talk about everything from the g7 new partnerships in app notifications. And those stuck sensors that you've probably heard about or seen on social media. Kevin Sayer 0:45 There's a freak out factor but Let's face it, if that's your last sensor, that's not fair. And that's not right. So we noted it, we've seen it, we've read it. We've done everything we can to mitigate it. I'm very comfortable we’ll see this come down. Stacey Simms 0:57 We also talk about upcoming CGM Competition, customer service, direct to Apple Watch and a lot more. in Tell me something good on Miss America contestant with Type 1 diabetes has a pretty stellar week and it has nothing to do with her crown and sash. This is about engineering. This podcast is not intended as medical advice. If you have those kinds of questions, please contact your healthcare provider. Welcome to another week of Diabetes Connections. I am your host Stacey Simms, we aim to educate and inspire about type 1 diabetes by sharing stories of connection. My son was diagnosed with type one, just before he turned two. That was more than 13 years ago. My husband lives with type two diabetes. I do not have diabetes. I have a background in broadcasting and local radio and TV news. And that's how you get the podcast. longtime listeners know what the show is all about. letting some new people know because let's face it anytime we talked to dexcom or talk about anything New technology, we get a lot of new listeners. So welcome! If you've come for that, I hope you stick around and go through our almost 300 past episodes. Now, you can find everything at Diabetes Connections. com, we have a very robust search, there's the regular old search box on the upper right hand side. Or if you click on the episode page, there is a way to sort them by category. So if you want to see all the technology episodes are all the ones with athletes are all the ones about family or advocacy, you can sort them that way as well. Before we talk to Kevin Sayer, it is important to point out that as you heard the very top Dexcom is a sponsor of this show, and has been for a few years now. Our agreement means I talk about them in a commercial, which you will hear later on the show. But it doesn't mean that I don't get to ask hard questions. I really try to serve you as you listen, I try to serve you first. And if I'm not doing that this show doesn't work ethically. It's really important to disclose these things. And I always get upset when other either podcasters or bloggers or speakers don't do that. If you're a longtime listener, you understand how it works around here. Hopefully, I am doing a good job of serving you. But just to be clear, the advertisers in the show pay for the advertisement. And I believe in them, and I'm glad they're here. But they do not tell me what to say, in the show anywhere else on social media, or when I write a blog, that sort of thing. It's not that kind of relationship. So we're talking to Kevin coming up in just a couple of minutes asking your questions. I took a whole bunch of them from the Facebook group. We do have a Facebook group, it is Diabetes Connections, the group, very original, but very easy to find that way I thought, and that's really the best way if you want to ask these newsmakers questions I usually ask in the group and you can always contact me that way. That's coming up in just a minute. But first Diabetes Connections is brought to you by another sponsor, One Drop. It is so nice to find a diabetes product that Not only does what you need, but also fits in perfectly with your life. One Drop is that is the sleekest looking and most modern meter My family has ever used. And it's not just about their modern meter setup. You can also send your readings to the mobile app automatically and review your data anytime, instantly share blood glucose reports with your healthcare team. It also works with your Dexcom Fitbit or your Apple Watch. Not to mention they're awesome test strips subscription plans, take as many test strips as you need, and they'll deliver them to your door. One Drop diabetes care delivered, learn more, go to Diabetes Connections calm and click on the One Drop logo. My guest this week is Dexcom CEO Kevin Sayer. He is joining us from the International Conference on Advanced Technologies and Treatments for diabetes, which this year is in Madrid. So as we're talking to Spain here, please pardon any glitches or weird phone sounds that might pop up but hopefully all will go away. Kevin, thank you so much for joining me. I appreciate it. Kevin Sayer 5:02 Oh, thank you, Stacey. It's good to be back again. Stacey Simms 5:05 All right, let's start with the news that has already come out of the conference. And that is this official partnership with Insulet. With Omnipod. Can you start by talking a little bit about? And I'll be honest with you, I'm a little confused. I they're already in clinical trials for Horizon. I thought this agreement was a done deal. Tell us about the agreement with Insulet. Kevin Sayer 5:23 Actually, we've been working with Insulet since 2007. This is a long time relationship. And most of our work in the past was then under the form of a development agreement to jointly develop products together. The announcement this week is the culmination of all that development work over time to basically say, look, we've entered into an agreement whereby we know how we're going to commercialize our joint systems. And also, as we have entered into these development agreements with our partners, we typically do it one generation of technology at a time, we made the g7 system available to the Insulet team as well. So once they get a rising launch with G6, as the G7 system gets ready to go, it will be will be able to migrate over to that system as well. So that that was the purpose of this announcement and the other. You know, the other reason for it, there is so much going on in the interoperability world right now. We index coms as well, it's important that everybody knows that we have these relationships. And this relationship is very close and near and dear to us. So we therefore thought the announcement was good on something we have been working on for a very long time. Stacey Simms 6:29 When we look at interoperability, you've mentioned already G6, G7. Can you just take a step back and give us a little bit of an update on that so Insulet will go with their horizon, which is not out yet. That'll be g six and G seven tandem with control IQ also g six mg seven Kevin Sayer 6:50 Tandem has access to G6 right now. We've not yet signed a G7 agreement with them, but we'd expect to do that and then they're very near future. We've also signed a relationship with Lily and their connected pens and their platforms, whereby they'll have access to G six and G seven as well. We have several other smaller relationships with some of the smaller pump companies or others where they have to six, access not a lot of g7. At this point in time, we have to look at that strategy over time and decide what approach we're going to take with partners. The interoperability world creates some very interesting business scenarios, which I wish I knew the answer to all of that, but it ranges anywhere from let's say, one person and go or two people and just work with them to maybe a few or just open it up to everybody. And I think it evolves over time. For us right now. We think it's important that we support certainly as many as we can, but offer even a heightened level of support to those who are going to have commercial offerings in the near future as speaking towards Tandem and Insulet. In particular, the control IQ uses g six and we read certainly very good things about that is that since we've been out there. And so we'll work with them all. This is going to evolve over time. All the answers are available. Sure. Stacey Simms 8:07 Okay, so let's talk about control IQ quickly, because that's been in the news quite a lot lately. We just started it about three to four weeks ago. It's been working very well for my son, but Dexcom owns the algorithm, but used to be called or maybe still is type zero. Kevin Sayer 8:23 So let me give a little clarity on the fundamental or the underlying science and the calculations behind the algorithm are in fact, developed a type zero and owned by Dexcom. Tandem has filed that as their controller. They have done some user experiences some modifications as to how it is integrate into their pump, but the fundamental algorithm is owned by Dexcom. And type zero. That's correct. So the sensor in the algorithm driving it are Dexcom properties. Stacey Simms 8:49 This is a little bit more esoteric than I expected to get in so quickly here, but what's it like being in the algorithm business and Do you have plans to perhaps get some other algorithms in Your tool kit, if you're like us, not the only one out there Kevin Sayer 9:02 know when we've looked at those, and we love our team in Charlottesville, we have some decisions to make there too. So what we're going to do long term with the algorithm and how available we're going to make it, it is a great business opportunity is a great skill set for us to have as well. With that team in Virginia, we've learned a lot about our sensor, their opportunities to take the science has been developed for automated insulin delivery and apply it to decision support for those who really don't want to use a pump all the time that we could possibly provide some good decisions along the way that would help them better manage their diabetes in the manner that they want to. I think there are a lot of opportunities to do that here. What we're going to let it play out, we're still early on in in that one. They're certainly next generation algorithm to come after they control iq version of it, which is kind of a step up or there's even less user interaction where you possibly won't have to announce all the meals and Everything that will be a little more aggressive on treatment and require a little less user interaction. And we got to figure out what our strategy is going to be to do that and how we're going to go with that. So we're kind of in the algorithm business, but sensors are still our biggest, you know, that's where we pay our bills, the most important thing for us, when we saw that asset was kind of available out there that we felt it was something that we just needed to control. And then we're thrilled with it. And quite frankly, it's worked out well for me, too, because they're right away from us in San Diego. And we can very much collaborate very quickly, since we have access to those scientists and they have access to us. Stacey Simms 10:39 So let's talk about the g7. We've talked about it before. Can you give us an update, what the features will be? What makes it different and the timeline? Kevin Sayer 10:49 Well, as we've talked, I'll start with the timeline, as we've said in our public statements, will be starting a typical study this year. Our hope is have a limited launch in 2020 The limited line for that have a significant impact on our financial results. So in the public world, we don't say a whole lot about the limited launch, we intend to do the full ride in 2021. And I don't have a perfect time frame yet, I will tell you, the mitigating factor will more than likely be our ability to scale it up. As you know, from your community. We learned a lot in 2019, about scale and all those lessons were not necessarily positive, the Dexcom. But they were good learnings. It was hard, we underestimated some things when we rolled to six out the way we did and I don't know that even if we delayed three or four months like to its original plan launch date, that we would have solved those problems because the demand for G six was so much higher than we anticipated. It would be you know, in the past, we could overcome 20% more demand than we have because we didn’t fill that many sensors. So yeah, if you’re manufacturing 2 million sensors. We can come up with another 200, 300 thousand, that's not a problem. But when you use the numbers we're at today. becomes a problem. So if anything, we learned anything from the big six launch, we are going to be prepared to scale g7 when we launch it, because when it comes, nobody's going back, just like nobody's going back to G five g six features of the product, as we've talked about before it much thinner, smaller profile, disposable electronics. So there's not a transmitter component anymore. There's no assembly of anything before you put it on, you literally take it out of the box, press the insertion device into your skin and hit the button and you're gone much smaller plastics profile. from an environmental perspective, patients will be glad to know that we get that comment frequently on our current system about all the plastics length of where we're shooting for an extended wear period. I have to tell you, we will balance the extended wear period against the accuracy and performance of the system with respect to iCGM standards. We know we have to have this as an iCGM to talk to these automated delivery systems and sometimes you make trades offs. Length of wear versus accuracy, as most people know, at some point in time, the longer you wear a sensors, the more difficult it is for to perform perfectly. One of the things that I often that isn't understood about g six, I can give the perfect example, these standards set by the FDA on iCGM are difficult. They're not simple to meet. And literally the way that g six algorithm works is if through our and our analytics, we look at the sensor signal and determine that that sensor is about to become less accurate than it should be, under iCGM rules, we turn it off. So there's a perceived lack of reliability from some of our patients on the sensor, when in fact that's not the case at all. We're turning it off intentionally. And that's very often associated with physiology. You know, people's bodies are different, and even sensor sessions can be different based on how much activity you have or where, the place you insert the sensor. So we're hoping for an extended To 15 day, where it certainly wouldn't be less than 10. We will go either way, but we need to make sure we meet the criteria. The sensor is much shorter than g six. So it will be a shorter sensor from our user experience so far and our preclinical work we've had nothing but great feedback on that. Stacey Simms 14:17 What does that mean? Is it a shorter wire or a shorter device, smaller, shorter wire Kevin Sayer 14:22 Shorter wire with the direct insert, not angle, but it is straight in but it's very, very short. Stacey Simms 14:33 More to come on the g7 and many other Dexcom issues. But first Diabetes Connections is brought to you by Real Good Foods, good foods, and their philosophy is all about keeping it real with food with community and with each other. And if you go on their website, you can find out so much more about the product real food, high protein, it's not about chemically made protein powders. This is about food, chicken cheese Right, low carb, grain free and zero added sugar. They keep adding products. We are big fans of the original pizza and the poppers but they've added a breakfast sandwiches with sausage or with bacon, cauliflower crust pizzas, chicken alfredo, other Italian entrees. They just keep adding more great stuff, find out more, go to Diabetes Connections calm and click on the Real Good Foods logo. Now back to my interview with Kevin and we were talking about the g7. You mentioned the the longer were balanced with their performance Do you expect the g7 to perform differently to perform I hate to say better but to use the criteria you were talking about with the iCGM? Do you expect fewer issues with either Physiology or the sensor sensing that something is wrong and then turning off. Kevin Sayer 15:57 That is our hope and our belief? We have learned So much from G six, as to what we can improve and make better It's been one of the scientists said to me the other day, he feels like he's working in a semiconductor factory. We're learning that much about sensors these days, as we're preparing for this setting to launch this product, we may not even be able to get all the things we've learned into the first version. But I think there'll be a couple of iterations whereby I know the extended wear will come and I know that that the reliability will be there. One of the things that we put around ourselves as a criteria is to significantly improve the reliability percentages. And we were experiencing on G six today, both on G six going forward and on g7. It just doesn't work. Patients have to return to the sensors, because they fall off or don't last long enough. We have to make that experience more consistent. So we're very focused on that. Not just with you seven, but with the six improvements as well. Stacey Simms 16:51 All right, this next one, I just have to get it out. Kevin, I feel like a broken record. But can we talk about direct to watch what's going on? I know there's been a lot of holdups but is that something that’s happening? Kevin Sayer 17:03 No, and we're working on it I appreciate you asking again, is technologically very difficult a Bluetooth protocols on the watch are not the same as the phone. And I go down to r&d and I asked the guys a question, every time I talk to you tell me what's going on. And it's not only difficult from the Bluetooth perspective, there's an experience perspective, it's also difficult with respect to the alerts Can we make it worse, audibly loud enough for by somebody can hear them? What happens when you take your watch and you put it on your charger and it's your primary displaying walk away, there's some where issues and some issues around the watch to create a little bit different experience and required a bit more fun on our part, and quite candidly, a lot more complex engineering. And we have done firmware updates to get us closer there. When we're done. We'll announce it. The other thing I would tell you is even if we weren't finished today, I wouldn't tell anybody I'm not trying to tell anybody till every transmitter in the field is was compatible because it will be different. version of the firmware on the transmitter. And while it was still be seamless on your iPhone or your Android phone, it will look the same if we announced direct to watch, and then we have a bunch of transmitters in the field that don't go director will watch, we're creating a tech support issue that will just again lead to patients being upset. So we're working on it, it's just a ways out and all these opportunities or engineering, things we have to get done are not just caused by Dexcom, either. There's Apple things that we just have to understand better. They work very closely with this. They're very helpful. It's just taking a lot of time. Sure. Stacey Simms 18:34 Well, thanks for the update on that. It's nice to know, you know, there's always a fear that these features may not get rolled out right. There's always a fear that and I know you know, this is the type one community that we see CGM makers and other technology companies looking at the the enormous type 2 market which has very different needs very different wants, and that we will be left behind so the watches I mean, it's a little bit dramatic to put it in that way. Looking at direct watch, but you understand what I'm talking about, right? Kevin Sayer 19:03 Yeah, I do. And I let me respond to that a little bit, please do. You're right. There are a lot more people with type two diabetes, type 1 diabetes, but there is nothing that we do for people with type 1 diabetes, that can't create a great experience for people with type two diabetes. I would argue that the good things we do for type one patients translate better over to type two then heading down a path with lesser accuracy, or lesser connectivity or fewer features. You're much smarter to make a product performance is superb level and then make the changes software related rather than then system related. And rather than sensor related, which is the way we're doing it now. Or you know, there was a big fear that g7 would be a type two product only hired that from a lot of patients because barely our partner been a great partner has been very much focused on type two where they're on duo, a managed diabetes management program, but that's not the case. We We will launch our g7 system with his ice ice jam label current plans are a legit person in the type one space. After that, even with G six, we can adapt the G six platform to a type two patient that has a different software experience. It doesn't detract at all from what we do for our core market. And where we sit today, the most important thing to do is to get a like if you get accuracy and performance and reliability and consistency, you can take that anywhere. And that meets our type one patients need and will also gives us the business flexibility that we need to go forward. But we're not going to do that if we were looking at something for another market. And I'm speaking way out in the future. today. It might be another platform that would measure multiple analyze that wouldn't have ice jam accuracy for glucose, but you'd have some combination of pick for analytics glucose, ketones, lactic acid, some other one where it's maybe 20% lack less accurate all four but you get a picture of everything. That's more of a diagnostic As we look at sensors in the future, that's something we would consider. But that's, you know, that's advanced r&d and something that we would look at. We don't have an intention of going a different direction right now. We believe that the features we have we can migrate to type two without compromising our current patient base. Stacey Simms 21:18 All right, let's talk about some specific type one stuff. And let's talk about following up. And no pun intended there. I apologize on the share and follow issues from late last year, you put out a very sincere apology, you really seem to have taken some steps. I appreciate that. I'm sure it couldn't have been too easy to put that video out, and we appreciate it. Kevin Sayer 21:40 But no, actually, I didn't tell you that that did not bother me at all. We couldn't put it out until we knew the answers. But that's the way we run this company. And that's the way I will always behave. If we do something that doesn't work. You own it. You don't hide and I wanted to do the video of the day with day one and Gemma calming me down, I wanted to write a letter or reduce something I was wasn't happy that we could not go faster. But now we will always behave that way will never behave any differently. Stacey Simms 22:13 I have some questions. Go ahead. Alright. Alright. So my first one is, you've updated the website and I'll put a link in the show notes where people can go to check in just last week, there were a couple of issues that were resolved quickly. But I noticed that what happened to me I'll give you my personal story. I noticed on my follow app for my son that we had lost signal, there was a brief notification, I apologize. I can't remember what it said. But something like you know, server error, but something came up a little teeny red line on the app. I cleared it without even looking at it too closely. And I went on my way because I don't My son is 15 I don't look at the follow up as much as some other parents do. But then on a Facebook group, someone said go and check the Dexcom page because They're updating the situation there is an issue. Great. So we all went. But my first question is, you will have announced, I believe that you're working on push notifications of some kind, because it didn't occur to me and maybe shame on me to go to the website. So can you talk about the timeline for that and what those in app notifications will be? Kevin Sayer 23:19 Sure. But let's go back a step we said and I said in the video, two things we're working on it immediately is a server status page and a product status page on our on our website. So you can go to the Dexcom website, and you can see how the system is functioning. And you can see that clarity is functioning Share and Follow how they're functioning, and we give an update to those in real time, will then implement before in the first half of the year, we're two months into the year almost before the end of June, we will have in app messaging to whereby if there is a share or follow or clarity or whatever issue we can send a message directly to the patient and are the followers servers are down, this is what's going on and it will come in the app won't come through text messaging yet. That'd be something we would do a little bit later. And in all fairness, I don't know that we have everybody's phone numbers to whereby we can push text, but we can't push to the app into the app users. So that'll be here by by mid June. As far as anything going on Recently, there were a couple times when the status page was yellow. And they worked through those quite quickly learning from what's gone on in the past and got that resolved. And we're now establishing the boundaries for what example what yellow server status means, on our webpage. Because when we started this and just adding totally, one of the the apps had yellow and it's happened to two clinics in the whole country. But since it happened to two clinics, we made it yellow, just in case it happened anyplace else on reality. That was the two words had happened and we dealt with it so we're being rather cautious is causing anything that we We will make it yellow over time, we'll put, you know tighter boundaries around that. But we will make it yellow. We'll work through the issues. We've improved our internal communications, I knew something was going on from the minute that thing went yellow, I was getting notifications. And I was I was traveling, so it's going much better. And we'll build a structure up and continue to make it better. That's all I can tell you. So we'll keep improving. Stacey Simms 25:24 And I know that you'll be researching this, but I'll give you some patient feedback real quick is that please don't text me. You don't need my phone number in app notification. Kevin Sayer 25:34 Okay. Yeah, I would rather not understand. balance that with everybody else because you're catching a flight for the airport, what happens? You get a text message. So the expectation since we're on your phone is we have the same infrastructure we just don't Stacey Simms 25:53 do what I don't get a text message from the airline. I get a notification from the app. It shows up on my similarly you get a text from Because you probably, Kevin Sayer 26:01 I guess it depends I Yeah, I know. Anyway, you have to be more like everything else that people experience. Stacey Simms 26:08 Exactly. Okay, so I have a couple of questions. Many of these questions that I've asked have actually already come from my listeners. Of course, we all have a lot of the same questions. But here are a few that people sent in. Rachel, as we're staying here on the follow up. Rachel wanted to know, if you're still working on having the follow app getting same notifications as the primary app, because all of us parents, especially with older kids, now, we never know when the sensors is expiring when the transmitters expiring, is there any work being done to get the follow up to be a little bit more robust for parents work any caregiver? Kevin Sayer 26:43 Yeah, we're continuing to work on the follow up and add add more to it. I think it'll be continual development cycle and will continue to add more. I will tell you from the teenager or the college students share a perspective the last thing they want is their parents. Getting The alerts from their app. I know that firsthand, because I talked to a couple of No, no, no, no. And so we try and balance it all. We will make the the share system more robust as time goes on. Because if we learned anything thing from the server outage, we learned how important share was. It is very important to everybody. Stacey Simms 27:19 Yeah. And all due respect, when you have the first update, when you could make it for 10 followers. You know, not every kid wants everybody their school following them either. I mean, but these have to be parental decisions with good education. So, you know, I think I get what you're saying. But these are all, let's just see, these are wonderful problems technology has created. I try to leave them alone. Alright, so. Okay, the next question came from a few people. And Gosh, I don't know if you can answer this, because this is more anecdotal, but we've been using the G six since May or June of 2018. And it seems to me Just in the last two months, I have seen pictures and heard anecdotal reports of sensors getting stuck at insertion to the point where in my smaller I have a smaller local Facebook group. People are posting the things they have used to whack the sensor because you're supposed to, apparently on Facebook, you whack it with a wooden spoon to get it to release or there might be a button underneath that you can push a pin in. But this is something that we haven't experienced, but that I've seen in the last two months. Are you aware of this? Is this an actual problem that Kevin Sayer 28:33 just so you understand, we monitor every complaint and everything that's coming very closely, we have seen a rise in those instances. Fortunately, it doesn't result in a patient getting bad data or anything bad happen. We just have to replace their sensor. We've identified the root cause of that and we've taken mitigations to correct that and that should come down going forward. We have this this Not this specific issue, but the fact is when we see things rise in the complaint base, we have a group of sustaining engineering group that jumps on these issues and determines where they came from. we've analyzed this, this specifically and we've implemented improvements and you will see that decreasing significantly over the next several months that should go away. Stacey Simms 29:20 Okay, cuz I know the good news is there isn't as readings issue, but the bad news is there's a freakout issue. Kevin Sayer 29:26 There's a freakout issue and let's face it, if that's your last sensor, yeah, that's not fair. And that's not right. So we notice it, we've seen it we've read it and we have we've done everything we can to mitigate that I'm pretty I'm very comfortable we’ll see this come down. Stacey Simms 29:41 Okay, but I'm glad to hear that. Is there actual advice of what to do if it happens? Is there the release underneath? I'm assume whack it with a spoon isn't something that you recommend? Kevin Sayer 29:54 Now we’re in anecdotes and I can’t speak to that. The easiest thing is call us and we’ll get us a new sensor as fast as we can. Stacey Simms 30:02 I gotta ask. I got a couple of questions from listeners who are asking about outside the United States. Obviously our listeners are USA centric, but there are many, many, many in the UK and Australia and Canada. Can you talk a little bit about jif six and G seven, internationally. Kevin Sayer 30:19 So g six is in Canada now. We launched it there in the fourth quarter. We also launched in Canada, any commerce platform reimbursement is not brought in Canada. Many of the patients have to cover the costs on their own. So we have tried to make it easier and Canada is the first place we've ever had an e commerce platform where patients can literally go online and buy their sensitive transmitters have them shipped directly to them without having to deal with this has been a very efficient and a tremendous growth driver up there. A lot more people are getting access to speech him in Canada because of that. That's been a great experience. g six has been available in the UK for quite some time. And again, the UK business is I want to say three reacts when it was two years ago. So we're doing very well there also, reimbursement is coming, but it is sporadic. It isn't everywhere. We spent a lot of time with government authorities pleading our case, the importance of CGM, and we found that educational process great. they've jumped on board and learn a lot Australia, g six is coming. I know it's not broadly rolled out, but it will certainly be a 2020 product there and should do very well in Australia as well. Government reimbursement, for CGM in Australia has gone very well. Here today. It is growing nicely, are all US strategy. We really have three pillars that we're working on, you know, first those countries we're reversing, that is good. We gotta broaden there. We have to increase access in countries where reimbursement is sporadic. And the UK, Spain where I am Italy, some of those places is very sporadic. Some regions it's reimbursed others it's not. Yeah. And then there is where we don't play it all. Yeah, we're very well In Central and South America, or Mexico, where we've got a filing in Japan virtue six, but we're not launched there yet. Stacey Simms 32:08 I'm gonna start this question right here. And it's my fault because I'm running over time. And I want to get one more question in. So I apologize. One more question. Okay, so diabetes mine ran a column recently that was headlined 39 potential new continuous glucose monitors for diabetes. Now a lot of these are pie in the sky. We know many won't come to market, but they went through and listed a bunch of new CGM that are going to be your competition. My last question is about customer service. Talk to us about how you're going to improve, maintain, really try to over serve in terms of customer service, because you know, that in the last year or two as the launch of the G six was a challenge, because of supply, customer service has got to be a challenge too. So my last question is, assure us that it's going to be okay from a customer service standpoint. Kevin Sayer 32:58 Well for us, it will be Well, I will tell you the one thing we've learned this year, more than anything else is scale. It's very difficult. And I just throw some numbers at you. Two years ago, we announced that the JPMorgan conference we had 270,000 active patients. That means we have patients that we know are buying and using sensors. Okay. I announced in an earnings call a week ago that we have 650,000 active using sensor patients. You can imagine the number of sensors we have to produce above and beyond that the number of phone calls we take, we will make customer service priority but scale is a huge challenge here and it is not cheap. We will spend hundreds of millions of dollars getting the g7 factory up and running before you see a sensor. We will invest hundreds of millions of dollars in G six at the same time, getting the factory automated getting the sensors more reliable. At the same time as we looked at the customer experience. There's a lot of things we can do. We have formed an entire customer experience Team at Dexcom over the past 12 months To go back and look at how we interact with people is 43 screens to start up the G six, new from scratch. Why is it 43 screens was because it was 43 screens and we did seven plus or G for whatever, we did the same thing. We're go back and re evaluating all those things to make it easier. I believe also on the customer service side, we do need to get better. But we need to get better a couple of ways. Product reliability is the first thing if we make it so you never have to call them customer service gets that much easier. But inevitably patients are going to, I believe personally that software can alleviate a lot of customer concerns. As we look to the future we look at putting tech support in the app to whereby I'll give you an example if your sensor poops out at eight days, it says Hey, your sensor quantitate days hit yes and we'll send you a new one. We're looking at things like this to make it much easier for our patients to work with us. We We purposely went offshore to set up a customer service center because quite frankly, we could not hire enough resources here to Do so that is going better as well on the distribution channel and make it simpler. We're going to the drugstore with future products and moving g six there. So there's not as much interaction as well. But I can tell you the customer service piece is every bit as hard if not harder than the technology piece. And we take it that seriously and we will over the next several years. Stacey Simms 35:18 Seven, thank you so much for spending some time with me. I apologize to your people because I kept you too long. But I always appreciate talking with you. Kevin Sayer 35:25 Thank you very much. Unknown Speaker 35:32 You're listening to Diabetes Connections with Stacey Simms. Stacey Simms 35:38 I couldn't get to everybody's questions from the Facebook group. I apologize for that. But as you heard, we ran out of time he was doing back to back to back interviews. I don't know who was next in the queue. I'm sorry. I did make him a couple of minutes late. But just a couple of quick thoughts on on my talk with Kevin they're listening back and I do listen back to almost every interview before we air it. I sounded so offended about the text messages. Do not like that I don't know about you. I want text messages to be from my family, friends and emergencies. I'll take text messages from school, and maybe some alerts. But I want my apps to notify me through the app. And I want to be able to opt in and out of that. I know a lot of people disagree. You know, if you listen to the show for a long time, we don't use share and follow like a lot of parents, I have never let any school personnel follow my kid. We do not see the need, but that is us. So you know, I understand Dexcom has to do its market research and make everybody as happy as they can. The other thing that occurred to me is that when he talked about going direct to watch, and not announcing it, right, waiting till all the transmitters are out there and then announcing it. My first thought was and so many of us who listen are part of the DIY community. I don't know what you do or how you do it. But the first thing that occurred to me was it's going to take five minutes for these DIY folks to figure out that different transmitters are out there. So I'm relying on you to let us all know because I have a feeling As soon as they start shipping whenever that is and he didn't indicate when, you know, I mean really how long it's going to take people to notice that it's direct to watch because I know there are people out there who every time they get a new transmitter their check up next, tell me something good with one of my favorite past guests, Sierra Santa said, we will tell you what she is up to now she was in the Miss America Pageant just a few years back. But first, as I mentioned, Diabetes Connections is brought to you by Dexcom. And here's what I have to say about Basal IQ. Now, you know, we switched over to control IQ. But the first iteration of this the first software was basal IQ, the Dexcom g six tandem pumps software program. And when we got it, we started doing less work for better results. Should I say that again? less work, better results with diabetes. Vinny always liked seeing his CGM on his pump. But you know, before this change that was really just kind of a cool feature. I mean, he really didn't pull this pump out just to check a CGM. He looked at his phone, but there was some serious sauce and the basal IQ that kept many more steady. His timing range increased significantly when we started on basal IQ. And his agency, you know, we don't share specific numbers, but not only did it come down, it stayed down. It has been the same, really for more than a year. Now, as I think about it, it's just been great. Of course, individual results may vary. To learn more, just go to diabetes, connections dot com and click on the Dexcom logo. Right, tell me something good. Really My favorite part of every show. Send me your good news stories for those of you not familiar with Sierra Sandison, and I think most of you probably are, she was in the Miss America Pageant in 2014. I had to look that up because I can't believe it's it's been that long already. But she went on stage first in the Miss Idaho pageant in July of 2014, with her insulin pump, clipped to her bikini bottom, you know, when they had the swimwear competition, and then she created the hashtag Show me your pump, which went viral. And I didn't know this till recently, it was NPR as most popular online story that year. Well, then she walked the runway again at the Miss America Pageant with the insulin pump again on her bathing suit. And you know, we all went bananas. Well, since then Sierra has gone back to school. She's at Boise State University. She's at the College of Engineering there. And last week, she won her team. She's on a team for this, she won invent for the planet. This is a competition where engineering teams come up with inventions and solutions to make the world's a better place. So they only had 48 hours to do this. It's a pretty wild competition. I will link up more information about it so you can see exactly what happened there. And I'll put some pictures in the Facebook group too. But it's a team looks like a team of five people and Sierra posted. We slaved away at the 48 hour event for the planet competition this weekend and it paid off. We had so much fun and so little sleep, but then it gets even better. Couple of days later, she was recognized by the Idaho Society of Professional Engineers. As the number one student in her class of mechanical engineers, she writes, I am so humbled and still in shock this week seems too good to be true. Thank you to everyone who helped me get to where I am today. I hope to make you proud and keep wearing pink while doing it. Every time I talked to Sierra, you know, it's easy to forget that she is brilliant, right? We look at the bathing suit, which is how most of us first saw her and we're distracted by that. I mean, I'll be honest with you. When I look at Sierra, I'm always thinking about how bad my hair looks because she always looks gorgeous. Her hair looks great. Her makeup looks great. I have joked with her about setting her up to do a clinic for moms at like a friends for life conference that because we all need to walk around with a ton of makeup. I don't know she doesn't all the time either. Just because it's fun, right? It would be kind of fun to learn how to do pageant makeup like that. I'm getting way off topic, but it's So easy to forget when a woman is beautiful that she is also brilliant. And I think that that is so important to keep in mind. And I'm so thrilled that she is so far forward in sharing all of these accomplishments and not compromising what she enjoys, which seems to be engineering and wearing pink and looking fabulous. So Sierra, thanks for continuing to include us in your journey. I cannot wait to see what you do next. Just let us know when you're taking over the world who would appreciate a little bit of a heads up if you have a Tell me something good. Please send it my way. You can email it to me Stacy at Diabetes Connections. com reach out through social media the Facebook group is a really easy way to do it every once in a while I'll post and ask and other Facebook groups but please seek me out I would love to hear from you. Help me spread the Good News in our community. As this episode goes live, it is the last week of February I don't know January dragged by February flew by I'm afraid to The page to March that we have a lot going on. I have three appearances for the book tour. I'm going to be in Wilmington, North Carolina, Winston Salem, North Carolina, and then over to Indianapolis, for the friends for life conference there. I am getting requests for the fall already definitely booking things in September. I think I have something in December already. So if you'd like me to come speak to your group, reach out. I'm trying not to do too many of these a month. I'm trying not to travel every single weekend because I still do have Benny at home even though my daughter's in college. So it's a lot of balancing juggling going on, but I'm loving every minute of it. Our next episode is coming up on Thursday, I'm going to be talking about a little bit of a Twitter kerfuffle. I don't know if any of you saw this if you're on Twitter, but there was a bit of a disagreement started by an eye doctor, a disagreement between how many doctors see their duty to give patients a wake up call and how people with diabetes actually view that wake up call and a real big gulf between these two groups on this One Twitter chat, unfortunately. So I want to share that with you and maybe how we can get our doctors to listen a little bit more. Alright. Alright, thanks as always to my editor john Kenneth from audio editing solutions. Thank you so much for listening. Joining me, please spread the word about this show. Word of mouth is the best way to grow a show like this. We can get more good information into the hands of people who really need it. So post it on your Facebook page, tell a friend who's touched by diabetes about it. I'd really appreciate it. I'm Stacey Simms. I'll see you back here on Thursday. 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This week – Dexcom’s CEO is back to answer your questions. Kevin Sayer shares lots of news from the recent ADA Scientific Sessions as well as more information about the new G6 transmitter expected later this year. Join the Diabetes Connections Facebook Group! Sayer also shares news about Dexcom’s role with current hybrid closed loops, answers your questions about Medicare and updates to Follow and touches on when we might see the G7 and when we’ll stop seeing the G4. Learn more about the top research from ADA 2019 In our Community Connection, a new resource to help you find the best pump, CGM and other diabetes tech for you. It's called DiabetesWise, an initiative from the Stanford School of Medicine funded by the Helmsley Charitable Trust. And Tell Me Something Good is all about research that could help the entire diabetes community. Learn about a new prevention study from Trial Net that delayed the onset of T1D for two years. ----- 00:00 Open: What's on the Show This Week? 1:35 Stacey Welcome - Benny's was at camp when Stacey taped this episode (he's back now and had a blast - more on that next week). More about the transcriptions that started going out last week. Sign up for the newsletter to start receiving these monthly "extras." And Texas Roadhouse restaurant is helping JDRF - donating proceeds from their online gift cards. But this ends June 30th so click here to find out more. 5:45 Interview with Dexcom CEO Kevin Sayer 42:45 Community Connection all about DiabetesWise 45:35 TMSG: TrialNet's Teplizumab prevention study Previous interviews with Dexcom: CTO Jake Leach - Feb 2019 focuses on Apple "Hey Siri" update and more on trouble shooting G6 sensors CEO Kevin Sayer - Jan 2019 focuses on G6 rollout, NYE Share/Follow outage and listener questions CEO Kevin Sayer - May 2018 focuses on G6 launch and Dexcom wearable integration CEO Kevin Sayer - March 2018 Dexcom G6 Approved Former CTO Jorge Valdes- June 2017 Apple watch integration discussion, G5 for Android, Dexcom company discussion Use this link to get one free download and one free month of Audible, available to Diabetes Connections listeners! ----- Sign up for our newsletter here Get the App and listen to Diabetes Connections wherever you go! Click here for iPhone Click here for Android
Kevin Sayer talks Dexcom G6 upgrades , G7, manufacturing, availability and much more. It's a type 1 diabetes info-arama! Show notes for people who are Bold with Insulin Our Facebook pages have been merged Facebook.com/BoldWithInsulin > Find out more about the Dexcom CGM > Get an Omnipod Demo today > Save 20% on Realgood Foods, use JUICEBOX at checkout > Dancing4Diabetes.com A full list of our sponsors How to listen, disclaimer and more Apple Podcasts> Subscribe to the podcast today! The podcast is available on Spotify, Google Play, iHeartRadio Radio Public and all Android devices The show is now available as an Alexa skill. My type 1 diabetes parenting blog Arden's Day Listen to the Juicebox Podcast online Read my award winning memoir: Life Is Short, Laundry Is Eternal: Confessions of a Stay-At-Home Dad The Juicebox Podcast is a free show, but if you'd like to support the podcast directly, you can make a gift here. Thank you! Follow Scott on Social Media Twitter & Instagram @ArdensDay @JuiceboxPodcast Facebook @BoldWithInsulin Disclaimer - Nothing you hear on the Juicebox Podcast or read on Arden's Day is intended as medical advice. You should always consult a physician before making changes to your health plan. If the podcast has helped you to live better with type 1 please tell someone else how to find the show and consider leaving a rating and review on iTunes. Thank you! Arden's Day and The Juicebox Podcast are not charitable organizations.
Dexcom CEO Kevin Sayer answers your questions and looks ahead. We talk about issues with the G6 sensors, Medicare, what happened to the Share servers New Year's Eve and he takes lots of questions from listeners. Plus, a look ahead to the smaller G7. That new version will have the transmitter and sensor in one piece. It's due out in late 2020. In our Community Connection, catching up with Beyond Type 1. They've got a new CEO and a new push to help with type 2. Stacey talked to Thom Scher a few weeks back about what makes BT1 tick. Previous interview with Thom Scher And in our Tell Me Something Good segment, Stacey explains that Will’s Way – a small but mighty charity – is marking a big milestone. Previous interview with Will's Way Join the Diabetes Connections Facebook Group! ----- 1:40 Stacey welcome - thanks JDRF Greater Western Carolinas for having us at the recent Type One Nation Summit. Benny was Rufus! Proud mom moment for Stacey. 6:00 Interview with Dexcom CEO Kevin Sayer 33:15 Stacey talks about Beyond Type 2 36:30 Interview with Beyond Type 1 CEO Thom Scher 51:00 Tell Me Something Good: Will's Way 53:30 Stacey shares a recent endo visit - lower A1c, almost no lows (thanks to Basal IQ) ---- Use this link to get one free download and one free month of Audible, available to Diabetes Connections listeners! ----- Sign up for our newsletter here Get the App and listen to Diabetes Connections wherever you go! Click here for iPhone Click here for Android
The US FDA this week approved the Dexcom G6 system. It means a smaller sensor and is factory calibrated for 10 days of use, which means no fingerstick calibrations. Stacey talks with Dexcom CEO Kevin Sayer about the details about the system, timeline for consumer availability in the US and internationally as well as what will happen with the G4 and G5 systems already on the market (and integrated with pumps like Tandem and Animas). Great article from DiabetesMine with more G6 info here Join the Facebook Group! Now available on your Amazon Echo with Alexa! Sign up for our newsletter here Get the App and listen to Diabetes Connections wherever you go! Click here for iPhone Click here for Android
Dexcom CEO Kevin Sayer makes his third appearance on the podcast to talk about what is on the horizon with our favorite CGM. G6 sensor, Android, new smaller transmitter, auto-insertion, new sensor and more more more! Our Sponsors OmniPod - Try a free no obligation Demo of the worlds only tubeless insulin pump. To get started go to myomnipod.com/juicebox Dexcom - To learn more about the Dexcom Continuous Glucose Monitoring, visit Dexcom.com/Juicebox The Juicebox Podcast is a free show, but if you'd like to support the podcast directly, you can make a gift here. Thank you! show notes Dexcom Clarity on Apple app store Subscribe to the podcast on iTunes today! Android users... The JBP is available on Google Play The Juicebox Podcast is now available on iHeartRadio My type 1 diabetes parenting blog Arden's Day Listen to the Juicebox Podcast online Read my award winning memoir: Life Is Short, Laundry Is Eternal: Confessions of a Stay-At-Home Dad Follow Scott on Social Media @ArdensDay @JuiceboxPodcast Disclaimer - Nothing you hear on the Juicebox Podcast or read on Arden's Day is intended as medical advice. You should always consult a physician before making changes to your health plan. If the podcast has helped you to live better with type 1 please tell someone else how to find the show and consider leaving a rating and review on iTunes. Thank you! Arden's Day and The Juicebox Podcast are not charitable organizations.
Stacey talks with Dexcom CEO Kevin Sayer to mark the ten year anniversary of the company's first commercial product sale and to discuss improvements to customer service. Sayer talks about the long hold times and other issues customers have noticed recently, and explains why the recent growth of the company, along with a product recall, made those difficulties worse. We find out what Dexcom is doing to improve service and make the overall customer experience better. Sayer also answers questions about Android capability for Share and talks about other improvements coming to the system's receiver and inserter. .
Dexcom CEO Kevin Sayer is back on the podcast to talk about recent phone support woes and how he plans on fixing them. Plus, adhesive issues, Android support, the speaker recall and more, more... more! Show Notes Check out the redesigned Dexcom.com Subscribe to the podcast on iTunes today! My type 1 diabetes parenting blog Arden's Day The Juicebox Podcast is now on Google Play! Listen to the Juicebox Podcast online Read my award winning memoir: Life Is Short, Laundry Is Eternal: Confessions of a Stay-At-Home Dad Follow Scott on Social Media @ArdensDay @JuiceboxPodcast Disclaimer - Nothing you hear on the Juicebox Podcast or read on Arden's Day is intended as medical advice. You should always consult a physician before making changes to your health plan.
Dexcom CEO Kevin Sayer talks about the Dexcom/Google collaboration, pump integration, Android and iOS/CGM in the Cloud issues, Medicare, Medicaid, Adhesive concerns.... Basically EVERYTHING diabetes and CGM related that you want to know about! If you are a continous glucose monitor user or considering becoming one - do not miss this episode of the podcast. I think you'll find this episode of the Juicebox Podcast a CGM users dream come true. Dexcom CEO Kevin Sayer was an open book who dished about things that I thought for sure he'd decline to speak about. Huge thanks to Kevin for his time and candor! Show Notes Subscribe to the podcast on iTunes today! Find out more about Dexcom Read the Google/Dexcom press release Check out my type 1 diabetes parenting blog Arden's DayListen to the Juicebox Podcast online Read my award winning memoir: Life Is Short, Laundry Is Eternal: Confessions of a Stay-At-Home Dad Follow Scott on Social Media On Twitter @ArdensDay @JuiceboxPodcast On Facebook Arden's Day - Juicebox Podcast On Instagram @ArdensDay @JuiceboxPodcast Disclaimer - Nothing you hear on the Juicebox Podcast or read on Arden's Day is intended as medical advice. You should always consult a physician before making changes to your health plan.