Podcasts about Mountain Meadows Massacre

Two powerful stories arise out of the Utah War: Thomas Kane's rescue and the Mountain Meadows Massacre. Both shaped the church in powerful ways.

After the death of Joseph Smith, the Mormons relocated to the basin beside the Great Salt Lake, led by Brigham Young. The journey of the pioneering Mormons and Young's leadership were an amazing display of spirit and grit but the shadow of polygamy dogged them in their quest to become a state. Slavery further complicated things for the Mormons and their strange doctrine of blood atonement which resulted in the infamous Mountain Meadows Massacre.

This week we cover the Latter Day Saints' extremely not peaceful practices, that have been rewritten as "defense" or "not officially the church" or "battle", when in reality the leaders of the LDS have engaged in mass murder more than once. The Mountain Meadows Massacre and The Provo River Massacre are discussed.Know of a missing woman's case that needs attention? Contact us at someplaceunderneith@gmail.com.Some Place Under Neith produced and edited by Adam Wirtz and Last Podcast Network. Artwork by Kevin Conor Keller, intro song "Subway" by Lunachicks, remixed by Devin Castaldi-Micca.Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ on Apple Podcasts to listen to ad-free new episodes. Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Some Place Under Neith ad-free.Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus.

In this episode of Welcome To The Party Pal hosts Michael Shields and Douglas Grant break down American Primeval, the American Western miniseries created and written by Mark L. Smith and directed by Peter Berg. Starring Taylor Kitsch and Betty Gilpin, the series is set in 1857 during the Utah War and examines the fight to gain control of the American West and the violent clash between the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church) and cultures in the Utah Territory, centering on the events surrounding the Mountain Meadows Massacre. Join in on an episode that tips its cowboy hat to captivating storytelling, a jaw dropping performance by Shea Whigham, and a surprisingly tender series conclusion, all while giving birth to what will forever be known as the "Revenant-Verse." Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Carl Panzram was a force of pure destruction—two decades of murder, arson, and brutality, all capped off with a chilling memoir where he made one thing clear: he never felt a shred of remorse.Darkness Syndicate members get the ad-free version. https://weirddarkness.com/syndicateInfo on the next LIVE SCREAM event. https://weirddarkness.com/LiveScreamInfo on the next WEIRDO WATCH PARTY event. https://weirddarkness.com/TVIN THIS EPISODE: He was described as a man “too evil to live”. We'll look at the brutal life of crime of Carl Panzram, a man some said was the personification of rage. (Too Evil to Live) *** Did a Nikola Tesla experiment cause the Tunguska Blast? (Tesla's Death Ray) *** Bizarre happenings were centered around the Eddy home. The house was reported to be infested with supernatural beings of such numbers that had never been reported before, or since. The events were so powerful and strange, people came from all over the world to witness them. (People From Other Worlds) *** A woman's newfound ability to astral project has her coming face-to-face with someone she never expected to see. (Astral Projection and Mom's Message) *** The Mountain Meadows Massacre has been hailed by historians as "the most hideous example of the human cost exacted by religious fanaticism in American history until 9/11." Ironically, it too occurred on September 11th – in 1857. (The Mountain Meadows Massacre) *** If you spend the night amongst the dead in a graveyard, don't be surprised if something supernatural happens to you. (I Spent The Night In a Graveyard) *** An old man regrets not obeying his wife's dying wish. (The Stubborn Piano) *** Over 200 lobotomies were performed at the Ridges Asylum – without anesthesia or an operating room. Is it any wonder why it's now considered to be haunted? (The Ridges Asylum) *** A Vietnam veteran has his first paranormal investigation in a Nevada town with a population of more dead souls than alive. (Marine Protectors) *** In a quiet Virginia cemetery is a peculiar tomb that has mystified visitors for nearly two hundred years. Who is buried there? No one seems to know. (The Grave of the Female Stranger) *** Demons hitchhiking, reports of a mysterious entity, strange suicides…CHAPTERS & TIME STAMPS (All Times Approximate)…00:00:00.000 = Disclaimer and Lead-In00:01:16.319 = Show Open00:04:19.248 = Carl Panzram: Too Evil to Live00:12:00.126 = Tesla's Death Ray00:20:59.780 = People From Other Worlds00:39:19.526 = Astral Projection and Mom's Message00:44:38.099 = Mountain Meadows00:52:05.764 = Walking Sam01:03:27.234 = I Spent The Night in a Graveyard01:10:46.406 = The Stubborn Piano01:14:19.583 = Ridges Asylum01:26:33.459 = Marine Protectors01:29:41.871 = Grave of the Female Stranger01:34:23.338 = Show CloseSOURCES AND RESOURCES FROM THE EPISODE…Episode Page at WeirdDarkness.com (includes list of sources): https://weirddarkness.com/CarlPanzram“Carl Panzram: Too Evil to Live” by Orin Grey: http://ow.ly/KxrA30mP1GM“Tesla's Death Ray”: https://tinyurl.com/v7scbe7“People From Other Worlds” by Troy Taylor: https://tinyurl.com/u6snqa3“Astral Projection and Mom's Message” by CuriousDee: https://tinyurl.com/rkwkbd3“The Mountain Meadows Massacre”: https://tinyurl.com/sdgbvsv“Walking Sam” by Brent Swancer: https://tinyurl.com/rkbd29c“I Spent a Night In a Graveyard” by Michael McKean: (link no longer available)“The Stubborn Piano” by J. Mason Brewer: (link no longer available)“The Ridges Asylum” by Shannon E. Brown: (link no longer available)“Marine Protectors” by Weirdo family member Pam Ennis, submitted at WeirdDarkness.com“The Grave of the Female Stranger” by Orrin Grey: http://ow.ly/NkQS30mMhhZ=====(Over time links seen above may become invalid, disappear, or have different content. I always make sure to give authors credit for the material I use whenever possible. If I somehow overlooked doing so for a story, or if a credit is incorrect, please let me know and I will rectify it in these show notes immediately. Some links included above may benefit me financially through qualifying purchases.)= = = = ="I have come into the world as a light, so that no one who believes in me should stay in darkness." — John 12:46= = = = =WeirdDarkness® is a registered trademark. Copyright ©2025, Weird Darkness.=====Originally aired: October 24, 2021

Netflix's American Primeval dives into the brutal realities of the American frontier, including the complex and often violent relationships between Mormon settlers, the U.S. Army, and Native American tribes. While the show is historical fiction, it clearly portrays Brigham Young and early Mormon leaders as religious extremists willing to do anything—massacres included—to preserve their theocracy. The show brings to light some of the darkest chapters in Mormon history, including the infamous Mountain Meadows Massacre, where men, women, and children were slaughtered under the guise of religious loyalty. But how much of this portrayal is based on real history? Join us as we break down the historical events that likely inspired American Primeval, separate fact from fiction, and discuss the brutal truths that shaped the early Mormon settlements in the West. Chapters: 00:00:00 Exploring Netflix's American Primeval 00:03:29 The Role of Brigham Young in LDS History 00:07:13 Native American Tribes in Utah and their Legacy 00:11:39 The Mountain Meadow Massacre: A Historical Overview 00:14:42 The Mountain Meadows Massacre: A Historical Overview 00:18:20 The Horrific Massacre and Cultural Clash 00:21:49 Theological Significance of America in Mormon Beliefs 00:25:33 The Controversial Mormon Militia 00:28:57 Impact of Historical Atrocities on Modern Religion Join our NEW Patreon HERE: https://patreon.com/growingupinpolygamy If you or someone you love has left polygamy and needs assistance, please reach out to "Holding Out HELP" at 801-548-3492 or visit their website at www.holdingouthelp.org At Growing Up In Polygamy our mission is to "Create compassion for communities that have been misunderstood, marginalized and/or abused by their leaders, and to empower those who have left by giving them a platform to share their stories with the world." If you would like to DONATE to this cause you can do so here: https://donorbox.org/growing-up-in-polygamy Insta: @growingupinpolygamy New website is now up! www.growingupinpolygamy.com Theme Song created by @artcowles Please feel free to reach out to us! growingupinpolygamy@gmail.com ✅SUBSCRIBE NOW : https://shorturl.at/inqrE #like #comment #post #share and #encourage other to #subscribe to the channel #netflix #mormon #americanprimeval #exmo #ldschurch #polygamy #churchhistory #utah #nativeamerican #brighamyoung

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Lindsay Hansen Park is a prominent Mormon history scholar and consultant for Hollywood productions, including the wildy popular Netlix series "American Primeval" and Hulu's "Under the Banner of Heaven".Lindsay shares her insights on the creative and historical aspects of portraying Mormon history in American Primeval, the challenges of balancing historical accuracy with storytelling, and her perspective on Brigham Young's controversial legacy. We discuss the harsh realities of the Utah War, the Mountain Meadows Massacre, and the Mormon pioneers' journey to Utah. Lindsay and I explore the complexity of faith, survival, and representation in media in this one.Lidsay's Website: Sunstone.orgCheck out my Online Men's Coaching Community We Are The They and see how it's changing men's lives across the globe!Get my FREE guide with 45 Days of Simple Tips to Become a Better ManPick up my USA Today bestselling book Be One: How to Be a Healthy Man in Toxic TimesJoin the Real Men, Real Conversations Facebook Group

Tune in as we discuss Netflix's latest foray into the Wild West, American Primeval. Directed by Peter Berg and starring Taylor Kitsch, Betty Gilpin, and Jai Courtney, this mini-series plops us right into the path of the Mountain Meadows Massacre—where a lone drifter, a desperate mother, and a powder keg of frontier tensions threaten to explode at any moment. Like Under the Banner of Heaven, the unsettling echoes of history loom large, making for a gritty, dark drama with plenty of plot to mull over. Welcome to Today's Episode!

January 9 saw the release of a new Netflix series, American Primeval, set in the context of mid-19th-century Utah. Though the series is fictionalized, many of the events and peoples depicted are real, including the Utah War, the Mountain Meadows Massacre, the Mormon settlers, and the Shoshone, Ute, and Paiute Indians. Historians Barbara Jones Brown and Darren Parry join host John Dehlin for this live podcast to answer viewer's questions about which aspects of the series are factual and which are historical fiction. Barbara is co-author of Vengeance Is Mine: The Mountain Meadows Massacre and Its Aftermath, and Darren is the author of The Bear River Massacre: A Shoshone History. Barbara and Darren offer a unique perspective because they are not only historians of this time period in Utah, they are direct descendants of peoples depicted in the mini-series--Darren is Northwestern Shoshone, and Barbara is a descendant of perpetrators of the horrific massacre at Mountain Meadows. Show Notes YouTube Mormon Stories Thanks Our Generous Donors! Help us continue to deliver quality content by becoming a donor today: One-time or recurring donation through Donorbox Support us on Patreon PayPal Venmo Our Platforms: YouTube Patreon Spotify Apple Podcasts Contact us:MormonStories@gmail.comPO Box 171085, Salt Lake City, UT 84117 Social Media: Insta: @mormstories TikTok: @mormonstoriespodcast Join the Discord

A discussion about the history behind the new Netflix series, American Primeval

A discussion about the history behind the new Netflix series, American Primeval

Profiling Evil's Twisted Tales: In 1857, a peaceful wagon train of around 120 emigrants, journeying from Arkansas to California, faced unimaginable tragedy in southern Utah's Mountain Meadows. Misinformation, deep-rooted tensions, and misunderstandings turned a serene valley into the site of one of the darkest episodes in the American West. Believing the emigrants posed a threat, a group of Latter-day Saints and their allies launched an attack that led to the tragic massacre. This video delves into the complex history, the rising tensions of the Utah Territory, and the lasting impact of this horrific event. Join us as we explore the layers behind this misunderstood chapter and examine how fear and mistrust led to a heartbreaking mistake.emigrant_westward, mountain_meadows_massacre, american_history, utah_history, latter_day_saint, tragic_event, western_expansion, misunderstood_history, mountain_meadow=======================================Order a copy of Deceived or She Knew No Fear and get the book signed for free! https://www.ProfilingEvil.comDONATE to Profiling Evil: https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=PK7KKA55V8PENSUPPORT our Podcasts: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1213394/support

This video features Sandra Tanner, a descendant of Brigham Young, sharing insights into her family history and involvement in Mormon history. From Brigham Young's legal wife, Mary Ann Angell, to descendants of the Mountain Meadows Massacre, Sandra delves into the complexities of her heritage and polygamy's impact on her upbringing. The discussion explores Sandra's journey into Mormon historical research with her late husband, Jerald, encounters with figures like Ogden Kraut and Ervil LeBaron, and her work with notable journalists and podcasters, including Wallace Turner, Peggy Fletcher Stack, and John Dehlin. This episode offers a fascinating look at the intersections of faith, history, and media. Show Notes YouTube Mormon Stories Thanks Our Generous Donors! Help us continue to deliver quality content by becoming a donor today: One-time or recurring donation through Donorbox Support us on Patreon PayPal Venmo Our Platforms: YouTube Patreon Spotify Apple Podcasts Contact us:MormonStories@gmail.comPO Box 171085, Salt Lake City, UT 84117 Social Media: Insta: @mormstories TikTok: @mormonstoriespodcast Join the Discord

In May 2023 Richard Turley and Barbara Jones Brown published a book through Oxford University Press entitled Vengeance is Mine, which documents the aftermath of the Mountain Meadows Massacre, including the efforts of Church and civic leaders in southern Utah to conceal their involvement in the atrocity through witness silencing and misinformation, as well as evading or stalling investigations by both government agencies and church organizations by lack of cooperation and political maneuvering. They also chronicle details about the nine individuals who were ultimately indicted, the five who were apprehended, and John D. Lee, who ultimately faced execution. In this episode of Church History Matters, we sit down with both Richard Turley and Barbara Jones Brown to discuss their important book, to hear their informed insights and perspectives, and to consider what Latter-day Saints and others can learn from this tragedy and how we can productively move forward. For show notes and transcript for this and other episodes go to https://doctrineandcovenantscentral.org/church-history-matters-podcast/   

The unjustified slaughter of around 120 men, women, and children emigrants in Mountain Meadows Utah on September 11, 1857, was an unspeakable tragedy. For Latter-day Saints then and now, one of the many painful details about this event is that it was instigated under the direction of local LDS leaders in Iron County who served simultaneously as ecclesiastical, civil, and military leaders.  On this episode of Church History Matters, we continue our discussion about the Mountain Meadows Massacre, with a focus on the aftermath of the atrocity. Specifically, we probe what we know of Brigham Young's reaction to the massacre and where the erroneous idea came from that he ordered the attack. We walk through what we know about who was brought to justice for the massacre and what the eventual fate was of those who instigated and participated in this heinous tragedy.   For show notes and transcript for this and other episodes go to https://doctrineandcovenantscentral.org/church-history-matters-podcast/   

The Mountain Meadows Massacre—easily the darkest and most violent episode in our Church's history—happened on September 11, 1857, when a group of Latter-day Saints, aided by some Paiute Native Americans, participated in the wholesale slaughter of around 120 men, women, and children belonging to a wagon train of emigrants from Arkansas en route to California.  This atrocity occurred against the backdrop of the 1857 Utah War when the feelings of Latter-day Saints were already set on edge. As federal US troops marched toward Utah with unknown intentions, Church leaders used defiant rhetoric and counseled the Saints—who had been victims of government-sanctioned violence before—to conserve their resources and be ready for anything. It was in this unfortunate atmosphere of hysteria that those in the Arkansas wagon train found themselves as they passed through Utah. So by the time these emigrants purportedly said and did offensive things toward some Latter-day Saints, the stage had already been tragically set for the highly irrational and totally unjustified violent response they received in return.  In this episode of Church History Matters, we walk through the details of how this atrocity unfolded under the direction of local Latter-day Saint leaders and think about what possible lessons we might glean from this darkest hour of our history. For show notes and transcript for this and other episodes go to https://doctrineandcovenantscentral.org/church-history-matters-podcast/   

Joe Geisner discusses the lost Orson & Parley Pratt diaries and we'll dive deep into the Parley Pratt murder, just prior to the Mountain Meadows Massacre. What other important documents are lost to history? Check out our conversation... https://youtu.be/SPDD1UUjdlI Don't miss our other conversations with Joe! https://gospeltangents.com/people/joe-geisner/ Copyright © 2024 Gospel Tangents All Rights Reserved Except for book reviews, no content may be reproduced without written permission. transcript to follow Copyright © 2024 Gospel Tangents All Rights Reserved Except for book reviews, no content may be reproduced without written permission.

Joe Geisner discusses the lost Orson & Parley Pratt diaries and we'll dive deep into the Parley Pratt murder, just prior to the Mountain Meadows Massacre. What other important documents are lost to history? Check out our conversation... https://youtu.be/9CWjWywz6EU Don't miss our other conversations with Joe! https://gospeltangents.com/people/joe-geisner/ Copyright © 2024 Gospel Tangents All Rights Reserved Except for book reviews, no content may be reproduced without written permission. transcript to follow Copyright © 2024 Gospel Tangents All Rights Reserved Except for book reviews, no content may be reproduced without written permission.

Step into the shadowy past of the early Mormon Church in a chilling exploration of the Mountain Meadows Massacre. Discover how Joseph Smith's controversial founding of a new faith ignited fierce opposition and spiraled into a devastating conflict. This episode navigates the tumultuous interplay of religious fervor and frontier strife, uncovering the grim consequences that shadowed the American West. Join us on a journey through a tale of faith, fear, and violence.

Episode 63: Mountain Meadow Massacre | A Bloody Mormon History In the vast, arid expanse of 19th-century Utah Territory, a seemingly routine journey turned into a harrowing nightmare for a wagon train of emigrants. Beneath a facade of hospitality and trust, dark forces were at play that would lead to a tragic and brutal confrontation. Join us as we unravel the chilling events of the Mountain Meadows Massacre and the complex web of motives behind one of the darkest chapters in American frontier history.Trigger Warnings:Murder (Massacre)Corruption Surviving Children:Baker, Mary Elizabeth, 5Baker, Sarah Frances, 3Baker, William Twitty, 9 monthsDunlap, Georgia Ann, 18 monthsDunlap, Louisa, 4Dunlap, Prudence Angeline, 5Dunlap, Rebecca J., 6Dunlap, Sarah E., 1Fancher, Christopher "Kit" Carson, 5Fancher, Triphenia D., 22 monthsHuff, Nancy Saphrona, 4 (Huff is prominently featured in the documentary Burying the Past: Legacy of the Mountain Meadows Massacre)Jones, Felix Marion, 18 monthsMiller, John Calvin, 6Miller, Joseph, 1Miller, Mary, 4Tackitt, Emberson Milum, 4 (Returned to their mother's family, the Millers)Tackitt, William Henry, 19 months (Returned to their mother's family, the Millers)Fahlohttps://myfahlo.comUse Code: LACIBEAN20Try Javy Today!Affiliate Link:https://snwbl.io/javy-coffee/LACI33468Coupon Code: LACI33468Square 2: Next Steps Into Reconstruction - Self-Paced Reconstruction CourseDiscount Code: LOLAhttps://www.bk2sq1.com/square-2-next-steps-into-reconstruction Deadly Faith PATREON: https://patreon.com/DeadlyFaithPodcast?utm_medium=unknown&utm_source=join_link&utm_campaign=creatorshare_creator&utm_content=copyLinkDeadly Drip Merch https://www.bonfire.com/store/deadly-drip/?utm_source=facebook_messenger&utm_medium=store_page_published_share&utm_campaign=deadly-drip&utm_content=default Need A Podcast Editor? Reach out to Eric Howell the editor of the Deadly Faith podcast!Email: thepodcastdoctor@gmail.com Resources:National Domestic Violence Hotline 1(800)799-7233 Open 24/7Suicide Hotline Call 988 Open 24/7National Human Trafficking Hotline Open 24/7 1(800) 373-7888 Connect with Us! EmailDeadlyFaithPodcast@gmail.comThe PodcastTik Tok @DeadlyFaithPodcastInstagram @DeadlyFaithPodcastLaciTik Tok @Laci_BeanInstagram @Laci__BeanLolaTik Tok @hellotherelolaInstagram @Spellbound_Shears

Dr Janiece Johnson specialises in American religious history—specifically Mormon history, gender, and the prosecution for the Mountain Meadows Massacre. Janiece worked on Richard E. Turley Jr.'s 'Massacre at Mountain Meadows' book and was the general editor of the recently published Mountain Meadows Massacre: Collected Legal Papers. As a magnificent culmination of her work on the massacre, she wrote and published 'Convicting the Mormons: The Mountain Meadows Massacre in American Culture.I wanted to speak to Janiece as I've always wanted to learn about the Mountain Meadows Massacre, but there is so much emotion and conspiracy around the topic. I feel privileged that Janiece would join us and share trusted, honest insights into the history and the aftermath of the horrific event. Some highlights from this episode include how media sensationalism caused a lasting impact on America's perceptions on Latter-day Saints, a definitive answer of whether or not any blame could be placed at Brigham Young's feet, and how Janiece kept her faith strong despite studying such saddening accounts.--You can get Janiece's excellent book at the following link, I would really recommend this:- https://www.amazon.co.uk/Convicting-Mormons-Mountain-Massacre-American/dp/1469673533- https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/63903861-convicting-the-mormonsFollow For All The Saints on social media for updates and inspiring content:www.instagram.com/forallthesaintspodhttps://www.facebook.com/forallthesaintspod/For All The Saints episodes are released every Monday on YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts and more:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVDUQg_qZIU&list=UULFFf7vzrJ2LNWmp1Kl-c6K9Qhttps://open.spotify.com/show/3j64txm9qbGVVZOM48P4HS?si=bb31d048e05141f2https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/for-all-the-saints/id1703815271If you have feedback or any suggestions for topics or guests, connect with Ben & Sean via hello@forallthesaints.org or DM on InstagramConversations to Refresh Your Faith.For All The Saints podcast was established in 2023 by Ben Hancock to express his passion and desire for more dialogue around faith, religious belief, and believers' perspectives on the topics of our day. Tune into For All The Saints every Monday on YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and more.Follow For All The Saints on social media for daily inspiration.

This week, Amber covers the murder of Carrie Ann Jopek. Carrie Ann's case went cold for 30 years before her killer confessed. Then, Naomi takes us back to US westward expansion and a most notable tragedy inflicted at the hands of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. For this episode, Amber was drinking a South Australian Chardonnay from Ravelston CellarsAmber's Sources:Man charged in 1982 killing of 13-year-old Milwaukee girl gets 7 years after plea deal"I can't take back how it happened:" Man charged in 1982 death of Carrie Ann Jopek gets 7 years in prisonCarrie Ann Jopek case: Plea deal in 1982 death of girl pushed down stairs - CBS NewsWhy Carrie Ann Jopek's Killer Confessed Over 30 Years LaterNaomi's Sources:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain_Meadows_Massacre https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utah_War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Church_of_Jesus_Christ_of_Latter-day_Saints#Beliefs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_the_Book_of_Mormon#Beliefs_of_Latter-day_Saints https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archaeology_and_the_Book_of_Mormon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manifest_destiny https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missouri_Executive_Order_44 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brigham_Young Support the Show.Go check out our patreon page athttps://www.patreon.com/crimewineandchaosFor more information about Crime, Wine & Chaos, or to simply reach out and say "hi,"https://www.crimewineandchaos.comhttps://www.facebook.com/crimewineandchaoshttps://www.instagram.com/crimewineandchaospodhttps://twitter.com/crimewinechaosCrime, Wine & Chaos is produced by 8th Direction Records.Amber is the vocalist, and attempted mandolin player in the band, Tin Foil Top Hat. You can find more of her work on all of the music streaming platforms or athttps://www.tinfoiltophat.com

An investigation into the Mountain Meadows Massacre takes years, and in meantime, Porter Rockwell continues his roles as lawman and mail carrier. He builds a hotel and becomes a successful businessman, but he remains a figure of controversy. Acts of violence throughout Utah Territory become part of his lore, regardless of whether or not he was involved in them. By the time of his death, he has achieved legendary status in the history of the American West.   Join Black Barrel+ for ad-free episodes and bingeable seasons: blackbarrel.supportingcast.fm/join   Apple users join Black Barrel+ for ad-free episodes, bingeable seasons and bonus episodes. Click the Black Barrel+ banner on Apple to get started with a 3-day free trial.   On YouTube, subscribe to LEGENDS+ for ad-free episodes and bingeable seasons. Hit “JOIN” on the Infamous America YouTube homepage. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCm4V_wVD7N1gEB045t7-V0w/featured   For more details, please visit www.blackbarrelmedia.com. Our social media pages are: @blackbarrelmedia on Facebook and Instagram, and @bbarrelmedia on Twitter.   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to a recap of the multi-part series on The Mountain Meadows Massacre with historian, author, director of Signature Books, content editor of the award-winning "Massacre at Mountain Meadows" and co-author of "Vengeance Is Mine, The Mountain Meadows Massacre and Its Aftermath" Barbara Jones Brown!In this live steam we ask Barbara the quick facts on the Mountain Meadows Massacre, a tragic event in Mormon history where a group of Mormons in 1857 killed a large group of innocent men, women, and children. With Destiny begging to Manifest in the 1850s, the US government was hot for an economic and cultural superiority expansion. Mormons had their backs! Or DID they?Here's the overview of all the forces at play that led otherwise sane people (hold your jokes) to commit heinous acts of violence on innocent people.Pick up the book Vengeance Is Mine from your local bookseller or online: https://www.amazon.com/Vengeance-Mine-Mountain-Massacre-Aftermath/dp/0195397851Listen to the audiobook of Vengeance Is Mine: https://www.audible.com/pd/Vengeance-Is-Mine-Audiobook/B0C6FPQFB5?eac_link=QUOOMHSekDaE&ref=web_search_eac_asin_3&eac_selected_type=asin&eac_selected=B0C6FPQFB5&qid=xMIVfP7ajx&eac_id=140-1729692-0760619_xMIVfP7ajx&sr=1-3All my links and info on the group trip to Greece!

In August of 1857, a wagon train of travelers from Missouri and Arkansas rolls into Utah Territory. It's called the Baker-Fancher party and it's headed for California. The group camps in a high mountain valley called Mountain Meadows in southern Utah Territory, but Mormon settlers in the area believe the emigrants are more than just travelers. The Mormons believe the Baker-Fancher party is connected to the approaching U.S. Army column. As fear and suspicion grow, a Mormon militia attacks the travelers in a tragic event called the Mountain Meadows Massacre.   Join Black Barrel+ for ad-free episodes and bingeable seasons: blackbarrel.supportingcast.fm/join   Apple users join Black Barrel+ for ad-free episodes, bingeable seasons and bonus episodes. Click the Black Barrel+ banner on Apple to get started with a 3-day free trial.   On YouTube, subscribe to LEGENDS+ for ad-free episodes and bingeable seasons. Hit “JOIN” on the Infamous America YouTube homepage. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCm4V_wVD7N1gEB045t7-V0w/featured   For more details, please visit www.blackbarrelmedia.com. Our social media pages are: @blackbarrelmedia on Facebook and Instagram, and @bbarrelmedia on Twitter. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We're going to be discussing Mormons and crime. Steve Mayfield passed away on March 30, 2024. This interview is from 2018 where we discussed his collection of Mormon crime, both good guys and bad guys. For example, did you know that it was a Mormon FBI agent who arrested Patty Hearst following her participation of a bank robbery? We'll also discuss one of the most notorious spies in U.S, history, Robert Hanssen. Hanssen was also a Mormon FBI agent who passed secrets to the Russians. Of course, Steve also has a collection on the Mark Hofmann case, and we'll discuss his work with George Throckmorton who discovered how Mark Hofmann was forging documents. The "Dead Lee Scroll" is also a forgery we'll discuss, that hasn't been definitively tied to Hofmann. Check out our conversation... https://youtu.be/XiTvCBNx_Go transcript to follow Copyright © 2024 Gospel Tangents All Rights Reserved Mormon Connection to Patty Hearst Kidnapping Introduction I'd like to introduce Steve Mayfield.  We'll talk about Mormon involvement in the Patty Hearst kidnapping case.  Did you know that it was a Mormon FBI agent that arrested Patty?  Check out our conversation… GT:        00:01:01             Welcome to Gospel Tangents. Steve:   00:01:03             Thank You. GT:        00:01:04             I'm excited to have Steve Mayfield here. He is a documentation collector and we're going to talk a little bit about Mark Hofmann. We're going to talk a little bit about the Mountain Meadows Massacre. We're going to talk a little bit about the FBI and Mormons. Steve:   00:01:31             Yes. GT:        00:01:32             Which I think will be a lot of fun. So, Steve has some amazing stories and so why don't you get us a little bit about your background? Steve:   00:01:36             Okay. GT:        00:01:37             How did you get involved in collecting? Steve:   00:01:39             Oh, gee. Well, I was born and raised in the San Francisco Bay area. For those interested in genealogy, I'm a seventh generation Latter-day Saint. So, my family history goes all the way back to Ohio in one family line and Nauvoo. And I've always had an interest in history. When I was in high school, my desire was to be a history teacher specifically, maybe teach seminary or institute. But when I was a senior in high school, this was way back in 1974. Most people weren't even around. We had one of these field trips to San Francisco and it included Golden Gate Park, the Chinese Tea Garden, an unofficial trip to the Haight-Ashbury, for those who remember that area, and also tour the FBI office. And I just fell in love with what people in the FBI did, all that work that I wanted to become the next was Efrem Zimbalist Jr, who happened to be the star of the TV show FBI back during the '60s. After I graduated from high school, I served my mission in Colorado-Nebraska. And in late 1972 I was assigned to way out east to Grand Island, Nebraska, which is kind of hard for person used to mountains when it's all flatland and wintery. One of the members of the local LDS district presidency out there was also the local FBI agent. So, we had a number of conversations. I indicated my interest in working with the FBI. And so, he suggested, well, get hired on as a clerk or clerical position with the bureau and then get a college degree and then you might become an agent. So, we put the paperwork in. I came home in February of '73 and then by July I had received my appointment to work as a file clerk in San Francisco. Steve:   00:03:27             I was there for four years. Of course, all this time I'm worried. I love history, but yet I'm in law enforcement. How can I intermingle? Well, my whole working career has been in law enforcement, but I seem to have come across historical occurrences in each of the agencies I worked for. When I was at the FBI, I was there during the attempted assassination of President Gerald Ford.

IN THIS EPISODE: He was described as a man “too evil to live”. We'll look at the brutal life of crime of Carl Panzram, a man some said was the personification of rage. (Too Evil to Live) *** Did a Nikola Tesla experiment cause the Tunguska Blast? (Tesla's Death Ray) *** Bizarre happenings were centered around the Eddy home. The house was reported to be infested with supernatural beings of such numbers that had never been reported before, or since. The events were so powerful and strange, people came from all over the world to witness them. (People From Other Worlds) *** A woman's newfound ability to astral project has her coming face-to-face with someone she never expected to see. (Astral Projection and Mom's Message) *** The Mountain Meadows Massacre has been hailed by historians as "the most hideous example of the human cost exacted by religious fanaticism in American history until 9/11." Ironically, it too occurred on September 11th – in 1857. (The Mountain Meadows Massacre) *** If you spend the night amongst the dead in a graveyard, don't be surprised if something supernatural happens to you. (I Spent The Night In a Graveyard) *** An old man regrets not obeying his wife's dying wish. (The Stubborn Piano) *** Over 200 lobotomies were performed at the Ridges Asylum – without anesthesia or an operating room. Is it any wonder why it's now considered to be haunted? (The Ridges Asylum) *** A Vietnam veteran has his first paranormal investigation in a Nevada town with a population of more dead souls than alive. (Marine Protectors) *** In a quiet Virginia cemetery is a peculiar tomb that has mystified visitors for nearly two hundred years. Who is buried there? No one seems to know. (The Grave of the Female Stranger) *** Demons hitchhiking, reports of a mysterious entity, strange suicides…SOURCES AND REFERENCES FROM THE EPISODE…“Too Evil to Live” by Orin Grey: http://ow.ly/KxrA30mP1GM“Tesla's Death Ray”: https://tinyurl.com/v7scbe7“People From Other Worlds” by Troy Taylor: https://tinyurl.com/u6snqa3“Astral Projection and Mom's Message” by CuriousDee: https://tinyurl.com/rkwkbd3“The Mountain Meadows Massacre”: https://tinyurl.com/sdgbvsv“Walking Sam” by Brent Swancer: https://tinyurl.com/rkbd29c“I Spent a Night In a Graveyard” by Michael McKean: https://tinyurl.com/up2vvgn“The Stubborn Piano” by J. Mason Brewer: https://tinyurl.com/sw2wkcw“The Ridges Asylum” by Shannon E. Brown: https://tinyurl.com/t23xzuc“Marine Protectors” by Weirdo family member Pam Ennis, submitted at WeirdDarkness.com“The Grave of the Female Stranger” by Orrin Grey: http://ow.ly/NkQS30mMhhZWeird Darkness theme by Alibi Music Library. = = = = =(Over time links seen above may become invalid, disappear, or have different content. I always make sure to give authors credit for the material I use whenever possible. If I somehow overlooked doing so for a story, or if a credit is incorrect, please let me know and I will rectify it in these show notes immediately. Some links included above may benefit me financially through qualifying purchases.)= = = = ="I have come into the world as a light, so that no one who believes in me should stay in darkness." — John 12:46= = = = =WeirdDarkness® is a registered trademark. Copyright ©2024, Weird Darkness.= = = = =Originally aired: October 24, 2021PARTIAL TRANSCRIPT: https://weirddarkness.com/too-evil-to-live/

This is part four where Barbara and I discuss the Mountain Meadows Massacre, a tragic event in Mormon history where a group of Mormons in 1857 killed a large group of innocent men, women, and children.We kick things off with a review of the brutal crime of wiping out all the innocent people including young witnesses. As tensions soar, the Mormon leaders are left reeling at the shocking aftermath of their actions. Lies fly and a frantic cover-up ensues, leaving everyone scrambling to keep their secrets buried. The whole situation blows wide open when freighters stumble upon the scene. Amidst the chaos, questions arise about what the orphaned kids might know and how to make them forget. Things take an even more sinister turn when leaders start bragging about their misdeeds in church and resort to making violent threats, then telling prophet Brigham Young a fictionalized version of events.Pick up the book Vengeance Is Mine from your local bookseller or online: https://www.amazon.com/Vengeance-Mine-Mountain-Massacre-Aftermath/dp/0195397851Listen to the audiobook of Vengeance Is Mine: https://www.audible.com/pd/Vengeance-Is-Mine-Audiobook/B0C6FPQFB5?eac_link=QUOOMHSekDaE&ref=web_search_eac_asin_3&eac_selected_type=asin&eac_selected=B0C6FPQFB5&qid=xMIVfP7ajx&eac_id=140-1729692-0760619_xMIVfP7ajx&sr=1-3

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I've started a new multi-part series on The Mountain Meadows Massacre with historian, author, director of Signature Books, content editor of the award-winning "Massacre at Mountain Meadows" and co-author of "Vengeance Is Mine, The Mountain Meadows Massacre and Its Aftermath" Barbara Jones Brown.This is part three where Barbara and I discuss the Mountain Meadows Massacre, a tragic event in Mormon history where a group of Mormons in 1857 killed a large group of innocent men, women, and children. Practice self-care, grab a box of tissues, and buckle up for the horrifying story of the Mountain Meadows Massacre as we delve into the tragic events that unfolded on September 11th, 1857. Barbara brings to light the complex and heart-wrenching story of this massacre for listeners with a complete murder-by-murder breakdown for you as you break down. With Barbara's dedication to researching this massacre, giving a voice to the defenseless victims, and her heartfelt storytelling, you'll leave this episode rocked to your very core.We also touch on Barbara's personal journey of uncovering her ancestral connection to this dark chapter in Mormon history. Join us in honoring the memory of the victims and exploring the significant lessons this incident holds for us today. Don't forget to share your thoughts and subscribe for deeper historical explorations on Mormon history.Pick up the book Vengeance Is Mine from your local bookseller or online: https://www.amazon.com/Vengeance-Mine-Mountain-Massacre-Aftermath/dp/0195397851Listen to the audiobook of Vengeance Is Mine: https://www.audible.com/pd/Vengeance-Is-Mine-Audiobook/B0C6FPQFB5?eac_link=QUOOMHSekDaE&ref=web_search_eac_asin_3&eac_selected_type=asin&eac_selected=B0C6FPQFB5&qid=xMIVfP7ajx&eac_id=140-1729692-0760619_xMIVfP7ajx&sr=1-3

In this second episode of our series, historian Barbara Jones Brown takes us through the violent rhetoric on behalf of Mormon leaders that led up to the Mountain Meadows Massacre. From 1856 to 1857 in Utah, Mormon prophet Brigham Young played a role in shaping the mindset of the Mormon settlers resulting in a theocracy, heaps of polygamy, and the idea that avenging the blood of prophets was the only rational thing to do. Blood atonement and the Mormon Reformation are key aspects to understanding the religious doctrine and context of the time that shed light on the motivations and justifications used by the perpetrators of the massacre.Pick up the book Vengeance Is Mine from your local bookseller or online: https://www.amazon.com/Vengeance-Mine-Mountain-Massacre-Aftermath/dp/0195397851Listen to the audiobook of Vengeance Is Mine: https://www.audible.com/pd/Vengeance-Is-Mine-Audiobook/B0C6FPQFB5?eac_link=QUOOMHSekDaE&ref=web_search_eac_asin_3&eac_selected_type=asin&eac_selected=B0C6FPQFB5&qid=xMIVfP7ajx&eac_id=140-1729692-0760619_xMIVfP7ajx&sr=1-3

Exciting news! I am starting a new multi-part series on The Mountain Meadows Massacre with historian, author, director of Signature Books, content editor of the award-winning "Massacre at Mountain Meadows" and co-author of "Vengeance Is Mine, The Mountain Meadows Massacre and Its Aftermath" Barbara Jones Brown!This is part one where Barbara and I discuss the Mountain Meadows Massacre, a tragic event in Mormon history where a group of Mormons in 1857 killed a large group of innocent men, women, and children. With Destiny begging to Manifest in the 1850s, the US government was hot for an economic and cultural superiority expansion. Mormons had their backs! Or DID they? Here's the overview of all the forces at play that led otherwise sane people (hold your jokes) to commit heinous acts of violence on innocent people.

As a group of settlers eagerly headed west in the throes of Manifest Destiny, they were being watched by a group who were convinced they posed a grave threat. Known as the Mountain Meadows Massacre, the murder of over one hundred settlers led to the excommunication of members of the Mormon Church and remained shrouded in mystery for generations. So what exactly happened? Tune in to find out. 

Book Club is back with Rebecca Bibliotheca and John Dehlin! Joining with them as they discuss the Mountain Meadows Massacre is author and historian Barbara Brown Jones. Barbara cowrote "Vengeance is Mine" with Richard Turley. Barbara puts down rumors about the Mountain Meadows Massacre and why it started and discusses who was to blame for it and who was not.  Episode Show Notes Youtube link   Mormon Stories Thanks Our Generous Donors! Help us continue to deliver quality content by becoming a donor today: One-time or recurring donation through Donorbox Support us on Patreon PayPal Venmo Our Platforms: Youtube Patreon Spotify Apple Podcasts Contact us: MormonStories@gmail.com  PO Box 171085, Salt Lake City, UT 84117  Social Media: Insta: @mormstories Tiktok: @mormonstoriespodcast Join the Discord

  In this episode of The Interpreter Radio Show, our hosts are Bruce Webster, Kris Frederickson, and Robert Boylan. They discuss Come, Follow Me New Testament lesson 42 during the first hour and are joined during the second hour by Janiece Johnson to discuss her book on the Mountain Meadows Massacre. You can listen to […] The post Interpreter Radio Show — September 17, 2023 first appeared on The Interpreter Foundation.

With the anniversary of the Mountain Meadows Massacre, let's spend a week talking about teh church's spin on it in their history book…and how it corresponds to the objective facts. Bill and Eric discuss in a previously aired series.

With the anniversary of the Mountain Meadows Massacre, let's spend a week talking about teh church's spin on it in their history book…and how it corresponds to the objective facts. Bill and Eric discuss in a previously aired series.

With the anniversary of the Mountain Meadows Massacre, let's spend a week talking about teh church's spin on it in their history book…and how it corresponds to the objective facts. Bill and Eric discuss in a previously aired series.

With the anniversary of the Mountain Meadows Massacre, let's spend a week talking about teh church's spin on it in their history book…and how it corresponds to the objective facts. Bill and Eric discuss in a previously aired series.

With the anniversary of the Mountain Meadows Massacre, let's spend a week talking about teh church's spin on it in their history book…and how it corresponds to the objective facts. Bill and Eric discuss in a previously aired series.

The French, Spanish, and the Americans believed that heading west was a divine calling. This is the story of when beliefs cross the line into territory more dangerous than the land itself. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

On September 11, 1857, a Mormon militia attacked a wagon train of California-bound emigrants. They killed more than a hundred men, women and children.

“Did Brigham Young order the Mountain Meadows Massacre?”

In September of 1857, one of the greatest atrocities in the history of Mormonism was carried out. Now known as the Mountain Meadows Massacre, a group of Latter-day Saints led a siege in Southern Utah against a wagon train of emigrants on their way from Arkansas to California. After the siege had dragged on for several days, and under the guise of a truce, leaders of the Mormon party lured the emigrants out of their protective circle of wagons and marched them a short distance across the valley before turning on them in surprise and slaughtering at least 120 unarmed men, women, and children.The details of this evil are difficult to talk about at all — much less dive deep on — but at the same time, historians Richard E. Turley and Barbara Jones Brown believe that it's important that we confront history, even its most difficult episodes, with as much honesty and depth as we can.Rick has served in many roles at the Church over many years, including as managing director of the Family and Church History Department, and managing director of the Public Affairs Department. Barbara is the director of Signature Books Publishing and former executive director of the Mormon History Association.Together they are the authors of a new book called Vengeance is Mine: The Mountain Meadows Massacre and its Aftermath, which is the second in a two-volume series of exhaustively researched masterworks on the subject. The first book, Massacre at Mountain Meadows, on which Rick was one of the authors and Barbara was a content editor, was published in 2008, and this second volume is the culmination of over 18 years of research, writing, and editing by countless contributors. Though brilliant historians have written about the Massacre before, these books include new research from documents and records that have never before been available.As we spoke with Barbara and Rick, we were struck by not just their comprehensive knowledge of these tragic events, but by the depth of their empathy for the victims, and insights about how knowledge of difficult history can be part of a larger story of healing and reconciliation. They and many others have been important in spearheading efforts in recent years to allow for that healing, including working with the Church itself and organizations of victims' descendants.In fact, Henry B. Eyring credited the work done on the first book in 2007 in an official statement given at the site of the massacre on its sesquicentennial. As part of that statement, he said, “What was done here long ago by members of our Church represents a terrible and inexcusable departure from Christian teaching and conduct. We cannot change what happened, but we can remember and honor those who were killed here…We express profound regret for the massacre carried out in this valley 150 years ago… and for the undue and untold suffering experienced by the victims then and by their relatives to the present time."What we hope for this episode is what we think Barbara and Rick hope for their book: that it can promote the same work of at-one-ment that is at the core of the Gospel by fully acknowledging the sins of the past, actively listening and working toward healing in the present, and looking forward to a future of deep relationship and connection.

“We believe it is our obligation to understand and learn from the past,” Elder Henry B. Eyring, then of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles, remarked on Sept. 11, 2007, at an event commemorating the 150th anniversary of the Mountain Meadows Massacre. The massacre is perhaps the grimmest episode in the history of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints — when brewing tensions between early Church pioneers and immigrants traveling through the Utah Territory erupted, resulting in the death of some 100 people. In 2008, the book “Massacre at Mountain Meadows” explored the complicated history of the 1857 event. The sequel, “Vengeance Is Mine: The Mountain Meadows Massacre and Its Aftermath,” is now available. Authors Richard E. Turley Jr. and Barbara Jones Brown join this episode of the Church News podcast to talk about this period in Church history.  The Church News Podcast is a weekly podcast that invites listeners to make a journey of connection with members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints across the globe. Host Sarah Jane Weaver, reporter and editor for The Church News for a quarter-century, shares a unique view of the stories, events, and most important people who form this international faith. With each episode, listeners are asked to embark on a journey to learn from one another and ponder, “What do I know now?” because of the experience. Produced by KellieAnn Halvorsen.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

My friends Richard Turley and Barbara Jones Brown, noted Latter-day Saint historians, join us to talk about their powerful new book about the Mountain Meadows Massacre of an Arkansas wagon train in 1857. Through their extensive research, they answer questions about why it happened, who was responsible, Bigham Young's understanding/involvement, descendants of victims stories/interactions, and reconciliation. I was deeply moved—sometimes to tears—learning about this tragic part of Latter-day Saint history. Understanding and owning our history is key to reconciliation and ensuring the same cycle of fear and extremism isn't repeated. I am so grateful for Rick and Barbara and their work to write this history, connect with the descendants of the victims, and help heal hearts. This book is both a thoughtful academic book and a powerful story of pain, heartache, tragedy, and reconciliation. I encourage everyone to read this book and listen to this podcast. Thank you Rick and Barbara for being on the podcast and your much-needed work in our community. Podcast links: Vengeance is Mine: The Mountain Meadows Massacre and Its Aftermath: www.amazon.com/dp/0195397851 Massacre at Mountain Meadows (earlier book): www.amazon.com/dp/0199747563 E-mail: mmmreconciliation@gmail.com

For nearly a century, the murder of 120 emigrants by Mormon militiamen at Mountain Meadows in early September, 1857, existed as little more than whispers around Utah. Then a rural housewife and writer named Juanita Brooks dared to tread where others had long feared to and write the first history of the Mountain Meadows Massacre.

On today's episode, Karen covers the 1857 Mountain Meadows Massacre and Georgia tells the story of the murder of Nicole van den Hurk.For our sources and show notes, visit www.myfavoritemurder.com/episodes.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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