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1890-1920 was a period of great progress among the LDS Saints but came with key compromises that began the assimilation of LDS culture and into the broader American people.   Join us as we look at this era, continuing our trip through American Zion by Benjamin Park!   Link to our Face in Hat discord server! https://discord.gg/MnSMvKHvwh YouTube channel!  Thanks Eric! https://www.youtube.com/@FaceinHat https://www.youtube.com/@FaceinHat/playlists Dialogue Podcast Network https://www.dialoguejournal.com/podcasts/ American Zion: A New History of Mormonism, by Benjamin E. Park https://www.amazon.com/American-Zion-New-History-Mormonism/dp/1631498657 Letter to the Editor: Reconciliation and Truth, by Robert A. Rees https://www.dialoguejournal.com/articles/letter-to-the-editor-reconciliation-and-truth/ Jesus the Christ, by James E. Talmage https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_the_Christ_(book) https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/jesus-the-christ?lang=eng Articles of Faith, by James E. Talmage https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Articles_of_Faith_(Talmage_book) The Great Apostasy, by James E. Talmage https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Apostasy_(book) The House of the Lord, by James E. Talmage https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_House_of_the_Lord Ten Thousand, xkcd http://xkcd.com/1053/ Jane Manning James (wiki article) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_Manning_James Jane Elizabeth Manning James (LDS article) https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/history/topics/jane-elizabeth-manning-james Jane and Emma https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_and_Emma They stole Yogi Berra's World Series rings. Then they did something really crazy, by Ariel Sabar https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2025/02/sports-memorabilia-heist-yogi-berra-world-series-rings/681093/ On Tyranny: Twenty Lessons from the Twentieth Century, by Timothy Snyder https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_Tyranny Ephesians 2:19 https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/nt/eph/2?lang=eng&id=p19#p19 Seer stone (Latter Day Saints) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seer_stone_(Latter_Day_Saints) D&C 138 https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/138 The Truth of a Dream: A Conversation with Theric Jepson, on the Dialogue Out Loud podcast https://www.dialoguejournal.com/podcasts/the-truth-of-a-dream-a-conversation-with-theric-jepson/ I Dreamed of Oil, by Theric Jepson https://www.dialoguejournal.com/articles/i-dreamed-of-oil/

Run and hide!  Today we jump into the 1870s and 80s to see what made our beloved ancestors be so eager to ditch the law and go underground.  (Spoilers, it's more polygamy!).  Part of our ongoing series covering American Zion: A New History of Mormonism, by Benjamin E. Park! Link to our Face in Hat discord server! https://discord.gg/MnSMvKHvwh YouTube channel!  Thanks Eric! https://www.youtube.com/@FaceinHat https://www.youtube.com/@FaceinHat/playlists Dialogue Podcast Network https://www.dialoguejournal.com/podcasts/ American Zion: A New History of Mormonism, by Benjamin E. Park https://www.amazon.com/American-Zion-New-History-Mormonism/dp/1631498657 A Mormon Maid https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Mormon_Maid Emmeline B. Wells https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmeline_B._Wells Episode 1.8 Polygamy's Ghost https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/episode-8-polygamy-s-ghost/ Polygamy (Polygyny, Polyandry), by Miriam Koktvedgaard Zeitzen https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/9781118924396.wbiea1377 Find Randy Astle on the AML Discord server!  Eric can spot you an invite.  AML: https://www.associationmormonletters.org/

Polygamy, Racism and Indian affairs.  These stories dominated Chapter 3 of American Zion by Benjamin E. Park, “Of empires and wars, 1846-69”.  Come for the historical controversy but stay for the good vibes at the end! Link to our Face in Hat discord server! https://discord.gg/MnSMvKHvwh YouTube channel!  Thanks Eric! https://www.youtube.com/@FaceinHat https://www.youtube.com/@FaceinHat/playlists Dialogue Podcast Network https://www.dialoguejournal.com/podcasts/ American Zion: A New History of Mormonism, by Benjamin E. Park https://www.amazon.com/American-Zion-New-History-Mormonism/dp/1631498657 Pioneer Children sang as they walk, words and music by: Elizabeth Fetzer Bates https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/media/music/songs/pioneer-children-sang-as-they-walked Legacy (1993) https://youtu.be/TZALT-fK9Ao?si=vN-6uAZMRRW485dD Walker Lewis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walker_Lewis Chief Walkara https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walkara The Angel (2024), directed by Barrett Burgin, Jess Burgin https://letterboxd.com/film/the-angel-2024/ Episode 1.8 Polygamy's Ghost https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/episode-8-polygamy-s-ghost/ Commentary: New LDS curriculum flops in teaching eternal polygamy to children, by Carol Lynn Pearson https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2025/01/13/new-lds-curriculum-flops-teaching/ Emmeline B. Wells https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmeline_B._Wells (Aaron) Note the comment on Emmeline changing her mind was actually in relation to Emily Dow Partridge (note the redirects if you click on this link) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emily%20Dow%20Partridge?redirect=no Phoebe Pendleton Woodbury: not a lot of her online. Dr. Park is citing letters to her children Into the Headwinds: Why Belief Has Always Been Hard―and Still Is, by Terryl Givens and Nathaniel Givens https://a.co/d/59qRjS1 (Aaron) Couldn't find the tiger roar/rattlesnake article :) You are Two, by CGP Grey https://youtu.be/wfYbgdo8e-8?si=Z1qkIrKNMLMJL3K_ Episode 5.4 Agency and its opposition https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/54-agency-and-its-opposition/ Moroni: a brief theological introduction (The Book of Mormon: Brief Theological Introductions 12), by David F Holland https://a.co/d/7lkNflh After transcribing 1.2 million of his words, this researcher has something to say about Brigham Young, by Jacob Hess, about LaJean Purcell Carruth https://www.deseret.com/faith/2024/10/10/new-discoveries-about-brigham-young/ Teachings of Presidents of the Church: Brigham Young https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/teachings-brigham-young Latest issue of Dialogue (Volume 57, No. 3) which includes works by Eric Jepson and William Morris (former guest of the show) https://www.dialoguejournal.com/issues/fall-2024/

“O My Father”, and the Council of Fifty! Let's wrap up chapter 2 of “American Zion” in a quick show for the end of the year! Link to our Face in Hat discord server! https://discord.gg/MnSMvKHvwh YouTube channel!  Thanks Eric! https://www.youtube.com/@FaceinHat https://www.youtube.com/@FaceinHat/playlists Dialogue Podcast Network https://www.dialoguejournal.com/podcasts/ American Zion: A New History of Mormonism, by Benjamin E. Park https://www.amazon.com/American-Zion-New-History-Mormonism/dp/1631498657 Eliza R. Snow https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eliza_R._Snow “Invocation, or The Eternal Father and Mother” or “O my father” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O_My_Father Testimony in Art: John Hafen's Illustrations for “O My Father”, by Dawn Pheysey https://scholarsarchive.byu.edu/byusq/vol36/iss1/5/ John Hafen https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hafen A Little Lower than the Angels, by Virginia Sorensen https://www.amazon.com/Little-Angels-Signature-Morman-Classics/dp/1560851031 Episode 1.8 Polygamy's Ghost https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/episode-8-polygamy-s-ghost/ Hosea Stout https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hosea_Stout Council of Fifty, Church History topic https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/history/topics/council-of-fifty Council of Fifty on wiki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_of_Fifty Latest issue of Dialogue (Volume 57, No. 3) which includes works by Eric Jepson and William Morris (former guest of the show) https://www.dialoguejournal.com/issues/fall-2024/

Part one of our journey through Chapter 2 of Dr. Benjamin Park's book, “American Zion”, “The Voice of the People,1831-46.”  This history is a rollercoaster of emotion! Also, we have just so many show notes. Check them out and be sure to join us on Discord! Link to our Face in Hat discord server! https://discord.gg/MnSMvKHvwh YouTube channel!  Thanks Eric! https://www.youtube.com/@FaceinHat https://www.youtube.com/@FaceinHat/playlists Dialogue Podcast Network https://www.dialoguejournal.com/podcasts/ American Zion: A New History of Mormonism, by Benjamin E. Park https://www.amazon.com/American-Zion-New-History-Mormonism/dp/1631498657 Not a lot about Laura Hubble out there, but this Historical Introduction to D&C 43 seems relevant: https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/church-historians-press/jsp-revelations/dc-043-1831_02_01_000 Peter Kerr (Black Pete) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Kerr_(priest) Episode 1.8 Polygamy's Ghost https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/episode-8-polygamy-s-ghost/ Carol Lynn Pearson, Radiant Mormonism Award, recorded by Paris Fox https://vimeo.com/1018163129 Saints Volume 1, The Standard of Truth, 1815–1846 https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/history/saints-v1 Century of Black Mormons https://exhibits.lib.utah.edu/s/century-of-black-mormons/page/welcome Missouri Executive Order 44 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missouri_Executive_Order_44 Related to the ‘am I better for suffering' section of the pod: Opinion | A man at work, A half century of George Will https://wapo.st/4g7HdgJ Quote: “In “The Roosevelts,” George, the conservative thinker, found empathy at the core of Franklin D. Roosevelt's New Deal. “Polio gave FDR the gift of empathy.  There was no suffering that he could not in some sense relate to,” George explained. “Just as the irons were clapped on his legs, the steel entered his soul by having to fight through the constant pain of therapy that was unforgiving in its demands and not very fulfilling in its success.”” Episode 1.2 Theodicy and the Red Ball https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/episode-2-theodicy-and-the-red-ball/ Not sure about the last Shaker Eric mentioned, but this is probably relevant: There Are Only Two Shakers Left. They've Still Got Utopia in Their Sights, by Jordan Kisner https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/05/magazine/shakers-utopia.html James 1: 5-6 https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=James%201%3A5-6&version=KJV Tumult of opinions quote is from Joseph Smith - History: https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/pgp/js-h/1#p10 Oakland Stake First Vision Lecture Series - Eric Jepson https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFSicnZ3B3k Wiki on Limbo https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limbo (Really enjoyed finding this -Aaron) Comparison of the texts of Doctrine and Covenants 76 and Joseph Smith's poetic rendition of The Vision, Courtesy of Dr. Lawrence Flake from his book “Three Degrees of Glory” https://faculty.cs.byu.edu/~clement/rel325/vision-poem.pdf The Drowned World, by J. G. Ballard https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Drowned_World Revised Plat of the City of Zion, circa Early August 1833 https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/revised-plat-of-the-city-of-zion-circa-early-august-1833/1 The Maine story might have been Vermont, see Building Zion: the controversial plan for a Mormon-inspired city in Vermont, by Claire Provost https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2017/jan/31/building-zion-controversial-plan-mormon-inspired-city-vermont Defunctland: Walt Disney's City of the Future, E.P.C.O.T. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKYEXjMlKKQ Wiki on the Book of Commands mentions the teenage sisters Caroline and Mary Elizabeth Rollins who saved the “remnants of nearly 100 copies” from an anti-Mormon fire https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Commandments Latest issue of Dialogue (Volume 57, No. 3) which includes works by Eric Jepson and William Morris (former guest of the show) https://www.dialoguejournal.com/issues/fall-2024/

Welcome to season 7!  We are starting by reviewing the Prologue and Chapter 1 of Dr. Benjamin Park's book, “American Zion”.  The first single volume history of the Church in over a decade, and taking advantage of new sources, it's an excellent way to get some good old Mormon history.  This was fun! Link to our Face in Hat discord server! https://discord.gg/MnSMvKHvwh YouTube channel!  Thanks Eric! https://www.youtube.com/@FaceinHat https://www.youtube.com/@FaceinHat/playlists Dialogue Podcast Network https://www.dialoguejournal.com/podcasts/ American Zion: A New History of Mormonism, by Benjamin E. Park https://www.amazon.com/American-Zion-New-History-Mormonism/dp/1631498657 Parks and Recollection, with Jim O'Heir and Greg Levine https://teamcoco.com/podcasts/parks-and-recollection Saints, Volume 1, The Standard of Truth, 1815–1846 https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/history/saints-v1 History of Joseph Smith by His Mother, by Lucy Mack Smith https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Joseph_Smith_by_His_Mother Thomas B. Griffith https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_B._Griffith The Book of Mormon (musical) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Book_of_Mormon_(musical) Alexander Campbell (minister) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Campbell_(minister) Ada Palmer and the Weird Hand of Progress, by Gregory Barber https://www.wired.com/story/ada-palmer-sci-fi-future-weird-hand-progress/ James 1:5 https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/nt/james/1#p5 Burned-over district https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burned-over_district The Glass Looker: The Collected Tales of Joseph Smith, by Mark Elwood https://theglasslooker.com/ Hero's journey https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hero%27s_journey An Interview With Gordon Hinckley, by Mike Wallace (this includes the boat and garments story) https://www.cbsnews.com/news/an-interview-with-gordon-hinckley/ William Apess https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Apess

Settle in for Movie Night!  Aaron and Eric each picked movies that they argued had LDS or interesting religious themes.  Do you agree or have other picks?  Let us know on discord! Link to our Face in Hat discord server! https://discord.gg/MnSMvKHvwh YouTube channel!  Thanks Eric! https://www.youtube.com/@FaceinHat https://www.youtube.com/@FaceinHat/playlists Dialogue Podcast Network https://www.dialoguejournal.com/podcasts/ The Religious Affiliation of Director George Lucas https://web.archive.org/web/20050612235541/http://www.adherents.com/people/pl/George_Lucas.html But hey, there is an LDS connection to George Lucas!  From the article: “Lucas eventually came to state that his religion was "Buddhist Methodist." Gary Kurtz, a Latter-day Saint who had studied Comparative Religion extensively in college and on his own, was pivotal in introducing Lucas to Eastern religions (particularly Buddhism) and Native American religion, and discussing with Lucas how best to improve "Star Wars" by giving it a believable but sufficiently universal religious underpinning. Kurtz was the producer of "Star Wars" and "The Empire Strikes Back" and also did some work on the "Star Wars" screenplay.” Linked to from his wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Lucas#Personal_life Contact (1997 American film) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contact_(1997_American_film) https://www.amazon.com/Contact-Jodie-Foster/dp/B001AH6ZWY Hercules (1997 film) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hercules_(1997_film) https://www.disneyplus.com/browse/entity-ae19dd2f-a945-442b-a18e-d57fa8f5091f Eastern Orthodox and Divinization https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divinization_(Christian)#Eastern_Orthodox Relevant older Face in Hat episode, “5.2 Divinization and Deity”: https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/52-divinization-and-deity/ The Tree of Life (film) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tree_of_Life_(film) https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/B005UKJX4E “Rituals themselves are actually very boring. They go on and on, beyond your secular tolerance” (The Power of Myth, by Joseph Campbell). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Power_of_Myth https://www.amazon.com/Power-Myth-Joseph-Campbell/dp/0385418868 Quoted in Why Myth?, by John Bonaduce https://www.jcf.org/post/why-myth Aphasia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aphasia Aphantasia (includes the apple chart for degree of mental visualization) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aphantasia Eric may have been referring to this podcast: “The human brain is hardwired to recognize faces. But what if you can't?”, by Emily Kwong, Rachel Carlson, and Rebecca Ramirez https://www.npr.org/2024/06/26/1198910315/face-blindness-prosopagnosia-memory-aphantasia-sight-imagination Fred Rogers Acceptance Speech - 1997, The Emmy Awards https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Upm9LnuCBUM Wreck-it Ralph 1 and 2 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wreck-It_Ralph https://www.disneyplus.com/browse/entity-0cde80b0-5085-447b-b65e-c81a713a90f0 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ralph_Breaks_the_Internet https://www.disneyplus.com/browse/entity-4f2c48ef-b3f9-4422-9feb-011a17ff2afb The Official Disney Princess Rules, Explained, by Micaela Pérez Vitale and Samuel Cormier https://movieweb.com/official-disney-princess-rules/ Navigating Mental Health Comedy with Conservative Parents, Taylor Tomlinson https://www.tiktok.com/@taylortomlinsoncomedy/video/7288425135990770990 Shanghai Express (film) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanghai_Express_(film) Coco (2017 film) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coco_(2017_film) https://www.disneyplus.com/browse/entity-ce1ccdca-f468-4960-b67c-026b01ba42ab Angels and Seerstones: A Latter Day Saint Folklore Podcast, by Christopher James Blythe and Christine Elyse Blythe https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/angels-and-seerstones-a-latter-day-saint-folklore-podcast/id1693940296 The Tale of the Princess Kaguya (film) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tale_of_the_Princess_Kaguya_(film) https://www.amazon.com/Tale-Princess-Kaguya-English-Language/dp/B0817R94P8 The Tale of the Bamboo Cutter https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tale_of_the_Bamboo_Cutter American Zion: A New History of Mormonism, by Benjamin E. Park https://www.amazon.com/American-Zion-New-History-Mormonism/dp/1631498657

Today we chat about prophecy, the book of Jarom, and what it means for us to be living in the middle.  We draw especially on Sharon J. Harris's brief theological introduction to Enos, Jarom, Omni.  Check it out! Link to our Face in Hat discord server! https://discord.gg/MnSMvKHvwh YouTube channel!  Thanks Eric! https://www.youtube.com/@FaceinHat https://www.youtube.com/@FaceinHat/playlists Dialogue Podcast Network https://www.dialoguejournal.com/podcasts/ The Book of Jarom https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/bofm/jarom/1 Enos, Jarom, Omni: A Brief Theological Introduction, by Sharon J. Harris https://www.amazon.com/Enos-Jarom-Omni-theological-introduction/dp/0842500154 Wiki: patriarchal blessing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriarchal_blessing Irreantum: Stories from the Blue Cherubim https://irreantum.associationmormonletters.org/21-2-top/ D&C 51:16-17, “…act upon this land as for years…”: https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/51?id=p16-17#16 Tales from Pleasant Grove, by Steven L. Peck https://www.amazon.com/Tales-Pleasant-Grove-Steven-Peck/dp/1986604233 No link to the Elder Holland story, it's something Eric heard on the radio.  If someone has a better reference, send it in! The Hugh B. Brown story can be found in From the East: The History of the Latter-Day Saints in Asia, 1851-1996, by R. Lanier Britsch https://www.amazon.com/East-History-Latter-Day-Saints-1851-1996/dp/1573452688 Living “as Though” God's Promises Have Been Fulfilled, by Lori Newbold https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/liahona/2022/02/living-as-though-gods-promises-have-been-fulfilled The Path and the Gate: Mormon Short Fiction, edited by Andrew Hall, Robert Raleigh, with contribution from Eric Jepson https://www.amazon.com/Path-Gate-Mormon-Short-Fiction/dp/1560854677 $1 in 1844 money is $41.64! The Moneyball connection!  Retroactively, Aaron remembered the song In Moneyball sung by Kerris Dorsey is a Lenka song, "The Show", which includes the line “I'm just a little bit caught in the middle”.  Eh?  Totally works!

The recent Worldwide Relief Society Devotional was awesome!  One quote caused a bit of a kerfuffle, which sets the stage for part 3 of our series on women and priesthood. But the devotional really was great!  Go watch it!  And also listen to this episode :) Link to our Face in Hat discord server! https://discord.gg/MnSMvKHvwh YouTube channel!  Thanks Eric! https://www.youtube.com/@FaceinHat https://www.youtube.com/@FaceinHat/playlists Dialogue Podcast Network https://www.dialoguejournal.com/podcasts/ Worldwide Relief Society Devotional https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/event/worldwide-relief-society-devotional-2024 Accessing God's Power through Covenants, by J. Anette Dennis, First Counselor in the Relief Society General Presidency https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/broadcasts/language-recording/2024/02/14dennis Midwife of The Wild Frontier, by Melissa Tyler (Author) and Luciana Maruca (Illustrator) https://amzn.to/3PO0RUh Instagram post with quote on women, power, and authority https://www.instagram.com/churchofjesuschrist/p/C4oZ-otMOVL/ Twitter thread on YW fundraiser https://twitter.com/sunday_southern/status/1770885870847250553 LDS Church gives more power to women than any other religious organization, leader declares, by Tamarra Kemsley https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2024/03/17/lds-church-gives-more-power-women/ The Emotional and Priestly Logic of Plural Marriage" (2009), by Kathleen Flake.  Utah State University Press, Arrington Annual Lecture. Paper 15 https://digitalcommons.usu.edu/arrington_lecture/15 The Book of Mormon: Brief Theological Introductions Boxed Set, including Jacob: A Brief Theological Introduction, by Deidre Nicole Green https://amzn.to/49rsnhp Barred by Congress: How a Mormon, a Socialist, and an African American Elected by the People Were Excluded from Office, by Robert M. Lichtman https://amzn.to/3Ufp3Sh

Credit, authority, the danger of hierarchies, and how Jewish whiskey relates to fiction, equity, and legislation.  Join us in our second of a multipart series on women and the priesthood. Link to our Face in Hat discord server! https://discord.gg/MnSMvKHvwh YouTube channel!  Thanks Eric! https://www.youtube.com/@FaceinHat https://www.youtube.com/@FaceinHat/playlists Dialogue Podcast Network https://www.dialoguejournal.com/podcasts/ A Society Meet For Male Priesthood, by Fiona Givens https://web.archive.org/web/20140223100456/https://difficultrun.nathanielgivens.com/2014/01/20/a-companion-meet-for-male-priesthood/ Buying Jewish Whiskey, by Nate Oman https://www.wayfaremagazine.org/p/buying-jewish-whiskey The Utopia of Rules: On Technology, Stupidity, and the Secret Joys of Bureaucracy, by David Graeber https://www.amazon.com/Utopia-Rules-Technology-Stupidity-Bureaucracy/dp/1612195180 Pop culture on the apricot tree, ep 39 - Indiana Jones, Lapsed Latter-day Saint?, hosts  Liz Busby and Carl Cranney, guests Matt Bowman and Megan Harris  https://www.popcultureapricottree.com/post/indianajones

Our first of a multi-part series on women and the Priesthood of the Church.  Themes for this part include defining terms, Priesthood vs. religious office, and Priesthood in the past.  Join us! Link to our Face in Hat discord server! https://discord.gg/MnSMvKHvwh YouTube channel!  Thanks Eric! https://www.youtube.com/@FaceinHat https://www.youtube.com/@FaceinHat/playlists Dialogue Podcast Network https://www.dialoguejournal.com/podcasts/ Men and Women and Priesthood Power, by Elder M. Russell Ballard https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/ensign/2014/09/men-and-women-and-priesthood-power Wiki: Mormonism and women https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormonism_and_women LDS website: Women and Priesthood https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/callings/relief-society-organization/work-and-purpose/women-and-priesthood Joseph Smith's Teachings about Priesthood, Temple, and Women https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/gospel-topics-essays/joseph-smiths-teachings-about-priesthood-temple-and-women Women Are Not Better at Multitasking. They Just Do More Work, Studies Show, by Leah Ruppanner https://www.sciencealert.com/women-aren-t-better-multitaskers-than-men-they-re-just-doing-more-work Paul Among the People: The Apostle Reinterpreted and Reimagined in His Own Time, by Sarah Ruden https://www.amazon.com/Paul-Among-People-Reinterpreted-Reimagined/dp/0385522576 Eric's initial take on Sarah Ruden: We got mysteries, we got apples, we got St. Paul. . . . https://thmazing.substack.com/p/we-got-mysteries-we-got-apples Stapley, Jonathan A. and Wright, Kristine, Female Ritual Healing in Mormonism (January 1, 2011). Journal of Mormon History, Vol. 37, pp. 1-85, Winter 2011, Available at SSRN: https://ssrn.com/abstract=1754069 A Society Meet For Male Priesthood, by Fiona Givens https://web.archive.org/web/20140223100456/https://difficultrun.nathanielgivens.com/2014/01/20/a-companion-meet-for-male-priesthood/ D&C 25:7: Emma Smith being “ordained” but footnote 7a says “set apart” https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/25#p7 History of the Young Women's Organization Timeline Infographic, by Deborah Owen.  Laurels used to be Junior Gleaners! https://makingprogresspersonal.com/2015/03/history-of-young-women-organization/ Frigid Offices Might Be Killing Women's Productivity, by Olga Khazan https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2019/05/warm-offices-women-productivity/589966/ Original study: Tom Y. Chang ,Agne Kajackaite (2019). “Battle for the thermostat: Gender and the effect of temperature on cognitive performance.” PLoS ONE 14(5): e0216362. https://doi.org/10.1371/journal.pone.0216362 2 Ne 2:25 https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/bofm/2-ne/2#p25 How Rare a Possession https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIhAsifEMFs The Book of Mormon: Brief Theological Introductions, by Joseph M. Spencer et. al. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B085HJWGSQ Family Proclamations, by Blair Hodges https://www.familyproclamations.org/

Women LDS Relief Society leaders are no longer allowed on the stand in the Bay Area, as covered in Peggy Fletcher Stack's SL Tribune's article.  On this show, we talk about activism in general, our reaction to this change (not great) and discuss how we think our personal responsibility for revelation needs to be balanced with our need for change to come top down from the Church. ‘A slap in the face': LDS Relief Society leaders ordered off the stand, by Peggy Fletcher Stack https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2023/11/24/slap-face-lds-relief-society/ Link to our Face in Hat discord server! https://discord.gg/MnSMvKHvwh YouTube channel!  Thanks Eric! https://www.youtube.com/@FaceinHat https://www.youtube.com/@FaceinHat/playlists Dialogue Podcast Network https://www.dialoguejournal.com/podcasts/ Why I write, by George Orwell https://www.orwellfoundation.com/the-orwell-foundation/orwell/essays-and-other-works/why-i-write/ Lukewarm and getting spewed https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/nt/rev/3?lang=eng&id=p15-p16#p15 Eric thinks Peggy Fletcher Stack original art story might not have been written about, if someone had a link let us know and we'll update the notes here :) The Star Chamber https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Chamber Un-American activities committee from the 50s https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_Un-American_Activities_Committee Franklin/Peanuts articles: Black Isn't a Personality Type, by John H. McWhorter https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2002-may-12-op-mcwhorter-story.html The sweet story behind Peanuts' groundbreaking first black character, by  Thu-Huong Ha https://qz.com/571393/the-sweet-story-behind-peanuts-groundbreaking-first-black-character 'Peanuts' First Black Character Franklin Turns 50, by Cecilia Lei and James Delahoussaye https://www.npr.org/2018/07/29/633544308/peanuts-character-franklin-turns-50 Women at Church: Magnifying LDS Women's Local Impact, by Neylan McBaine https://www.amazon.com/Women-Church-Magnifying-Womens-Impact/dp/1589586883 Will You Engage in the Wrestle?, by Sheri Dew https://ing.byui.edu/devotionals/sheri-dew Jacob wrestling with the angel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_wrestling_with_the_angel Enos's wrestle before God https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/bofm/enos/1#p2 Cool stuff from Eric we didn't get to: Theric Jepson, Danny Nelson and Steven L. Peck: The Path and the Gate https://www.dialoguejournal.com/podcasts/theric-jepson-danny-nelson-and-steven-l-peck-the-path-and-the-gate/ Humor in Mormon Literature with Theric Jepson and Stephen Carter https://www.dialoguejournal.com/podcasts/humor-in-mormon-literature-with-theric-jepson-and-stephen-carter/ Faci in Hat Podcast episodes referred to in this episode: 2.10 The Columbian Exchange, Wilford Woodruff, and #BlackLivesMatter https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/ep-210-the-columbian-exchange-wilford-woodruff-and-blacklivesmatter/ 3.12 Minerva Teichert and the Manti Temple https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/312-minerva-teichert-and-the-manti-temple/ 3.13 Close to home: the Church Building Program https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/313-close-to-home-the-church-building-program/ 3.14 Paul, the Oakland Temple, and Pride https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/314-paul-the-oakland-temple-and-pride/

Did you know that we as members of the Church believe in the Book of Revelation?  Let's have some fun and open some seals! Link to our Face in Hat discord server! https://discord.gg/MnSMvKHvwh New YouTube channel!  Thanks Eric! https://www.youtube.com/@FaceinHat Look, playlists! https://www.youtube.com/@FaceinHat/playlists Dialogue Podcast Network https://www.dialoguejournal.com/podcasts/ This is the link for the Seven Seals wiki! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_seals The Hofmann Wobble, by Ben Lerner https://harpers.org/archive/2023/12/the-hofmann-wobble-wikipedia-and-the-problem-of-historical-memory  Eric's commentary on The Hatred of Poetry by Ben Lerner https://thmazing.blogspot.com/2022/05/books-extralong-edition.html#047  Wikipedia and the danger of trusting its facts, with Scott Tong and Ben Lerner https://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2023/12/18/wikipedia-facts-danger Book of Revelation: Canonical History https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Revelation#Canonical_history Ussher chronology https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ussher_chronology D&C 77 https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/77 Historical Context and Background of D&C 77, Brief Synopsis by Steven C. Harper https://doctrineandcovenantscentral.org/historical-context/dc-77/ Steven C. Harper https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_C._Harper Interpretations of the Book of Revelations (wiki!) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Revelation#Interpretations Found one bit to answer Eric's question on Jehova's Witnesses: “ The visions apply to “the Lord's day,” which began when God's Kingdom was set up in 1914 and Jesus began ruling as King. (Revelation 1:​10) We can therefore expect the main fulfillment of Revelation to be in our time.” https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/the-book-of-revelation/ Cleon Skousen.  Note the description: “American conservative author with the John Birch Society and a faith-based conspiracy theorist.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W._Cleon_Skousen Face in Hat: 3.4 David O. McKay and the confrontation with communism https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/34-david-o-mckay-and-the-confrontation-with-communism/ This is the movie I saw as a kid: Visit Israel with Dr. W. Cleon Skousen: Prophecy https://www.amazon.com/Visit-Israel-Dr-Cleon-Skousen/dp/B000EHIL7I Source for LDS 1st seal quote in wiki: McConkie, Bruce R. (1981). Doctrinal New Testament Commentary, Vol. III. Salt Lake City, Utah: Bookcraft Publishers. pp. 476–497. Seminary lesson referenced: https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/new-testament-seminary-teacher-manual-2023/revelation-6-7?lang=eng New Testament Student Manual: Chapter 54: Revelation 4–11: Revelation 6. The First Six Seals https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/new-testament-student-manual/revelation/chapter-54-revelation-4-11?lang=eng¶=title17-figure5_35#title17 Good Omens: The Nice and Accurate Prophecies of Agnes Nutter, Witch https://www.amazon.com/Good-Omens-Accurate-Prophecies-Nutter/dp/0060853980 World Happiness Report https://worldhappiness.report/ Face in Hat: 2.1 Millennial musings https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/21-millennial-musings/ 12 billionth person citation: Overpopulation – The Human Explosion Explained, by Kurzgesagt – In a Nutshell https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsBT5EQt348 Mormon Transfigurism https://www.transfigurism.org/ https://www.transfigurism.org/library/primers/1-what-is-mormon-transhumanism The Immortality Upgrade, by Dawn Chan https://www.newyorker.com/tech/annals-of-technology/mormon-transhumanism-and-the-immortality-upgrade Face in Hat: 1.10 Translation and the Book of Abraham https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/episode-10-translation-and-the-book-of-abraham/

In 1st Corinthians, Paul teaches about protecting the weak ones by avoiding the appearance of evil.  Is this applicable to online discourse?  Should we avoid the musty corners of church history or should we investigate?  Is there harm in causing doubt, or will that doubt come anyway and is best met head on, guide in hand?  We want to frankly look at these questions. Join us, and let us know your thoughts! Link to our Face in Hat discord server! https://discord.gg/MnSMvKHvwh New YouTube channel!  Thanks Eric! https://www.youtube.com/@FaceinHat Look, playlists! https://www.youtube.com/@FaceinHat/playlists Dialogue Podcast Network https://www.dialoguejournal.com/podcasts/ The New Testament: A Translation for Latter-day Saints, Revised Edition, by Thomas A. Wayment https://www.amazon.com/New-Testament-Translation-Latter-day-Revised/dp/1589587863 Additional reference for today from Eric that we didn't get to: Paul Among the People: The Apostle Reinterpreted and Reimagined in His Own Time, by Sarah Ruden https://amzn.to/3R8E4DY Pilot episode for your reference: https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/the-man-with-his-face-in-his-hat/ Our grace vs. works episode: https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/58-grace-works-and-foreknowledge/ Chloe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_minor_New_Testament_figures#Chloe The Zipf Mystery, Vsauce https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCn8zs912OE Corinthians 8 from The Message, by Eugene H. Peterson https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Corinthians%208&version=MSG xkcd: Ten Thousand https://xkcd.com/1053/ Possible reference for using milk to avoid appearing to drink alcohol: In the World, by Elder L. Tom Perry https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/1988/04/in-the-world

Spoilers for the Barbie movie!!  The Barbie movie takes people into the presence of God and delivers them to the real world.  Join us as we discuss the LDS endowment, existentialism, and heavenly mother as we revel in one of the best movies released in years. Link to our Face in Hat discord server! https://discord.gg/MnSMvKHvwh Dialogue Podcast Network https://www.dialoguejournal.com/podcasts/ The Barbie movie transcript we used: https://transcripts.foreverdreaming.org/viewtopic.php?t=121979 Greta Gerwig Refused to Cut a ‘Barbie' Scene That's the ‘Heart of the Movie,' by Zack Sharf https://variety.com/2023/film/news/barbie-cut-scene-greta-gerwig-refused-remove-old-woman-bench-scene-1235676474/ (FYI my theater was actually in high school…  -Aaron) Wiki existentialism: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Existentialism What Barbie Understands About Mother-Daughter Relationships, by Suzanne Garfinkle-Crowell https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/08/barbie-movie-mother-daughter-relationship/674931/ In the beginning, there was Barbie, by Alissa Wilkinson https://www.vox.com/culture/23800753/barbie-review-bible-eden Barbiemania! Margot Robbie Opens Up About the Movie Everyone's Waiting For, by Abby Aguirre https://www.vogue.com/article/margot-robbie-barbie-summer-cover-2023-interview Walk in the Pink Moccasins, by Carol Lynn Pearson https://sunstone.org/wp-content/uploads/sbi/articles/137-21-25.pdf The Meeting, by Elouise Bell https://web.archive.org/web/20171008222301/http://signaturebookslibrary.org/only-when-i-laugh-04 The Year They Gave Women the Priesthood, by Michael Fillerup https://amzn.to/3DXrqQw The Defection of Baby Mixo, by Mark Penny https://lit.mormonartist.net/2016/02/the-defection-of-baby-mixo Dialogue Book Report's episode with Eric's about his book, Just Julie's Fine, isn't quite out yet, but here's the link to the podcast: https://www.dialoguejournal.com/podcast-subjects/book-report Is ‘Barbie' an allegory of Mother Eve in LDS theology? | Episode 298 of Mormon Land, by Peggy Fletcher Stack, with Rachel Rueckert as guest.  Referenced from: https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2023/08/09/mormon-land-is-barbie-an-allegory/ Parks and Recollection https://teamcoco.com/podcasts/parks-and-recollection Heavenly Mother is Packing a Suitcase, by Aisling Rowan, part of Birds to Bones https://www.instagram.com/p/CvOLfPWMh55/

We welcome Tanner McAlister today as we discuss two articles on the translation of the Book of Mormon.  We kick things off using our season's reference, “Yet to be revealed”, from BYU studies.  Grant Hardy's article “The Book of Mormon Translation Process”, provides an excellent discussion of possible problems and resolutions in the translation of the Book of Mormon.  Then Tanner, a scholar of Tibetan Buddhism, walks us through his recent work, “The Production of the Book of Mormon in Light of a Tibetan Buddhist Parallel”, published in Dialogue, which draws parallels between the discovery and “translation” of both a class of ancient Tibetan Buddhist scripture and the Book of Mormon.  Join us! Link to our Face in Hat discord server! https://discord.gg/MnSMvKHvwh Dialogue Podcast Network https://www.dialoguejournal.com/podcasts/ The Book of Mormon Translation Process, by Grant Hardy https://byustudies.byu.edu/article/the-book-of-mormon-translation-process/ The Production of the Book of Mormon in Light of a Tibetan Buddhist Parallel, by Tanner Davidson McAlister https://www.dialoguejournal.com/articles/the-production-of-the-book-of-mormon-in-light-of-a-tibetan-buddhist-parallel/ The full issue: Yet to be revealed, open questions in Latter-Day Saint theology. Edited by Eric A. Eliason and Terryl L. Givens https://byustudies.byu.edu/journal/60-3/ Understanding the Book of Mormon: A Reader's Guide, by Grant Hardy https://www.amazon.com/Understanding-Book-Mormon-Readers-Guide/dp/0199731705 Kathleen Flake, “Translating Time: The Nature and Function of Joseph Smith's Narrative Canon,” Journal of Religion 87, no. 4 (2007): 497–527 https://www.jstor.org/stable/10.1086/519770 Jared Hickman, “‘Bringing Forth' the Book of Mormon,” in MacKay, Ashurst-McGee, and Hauglid, Producing Ancient Scripture, 78–80. Blake T. Ostler, “The Book of Mormon as a Modern Expansion of an Ancient Source,” Dialogue 20, no. 1 (1987): 66–123 https://www.dialoguejournal.com/wp-content/uploads/sbi/articles/Dialogue_V20N01_68.pdf James Gentry, “Power Objects” (Leiden: Brill, 2017) https://brill.com/downloadpdf/book/9789004335042/B9789004335042_001.pdf Rosalynde Welch, “The New Mormon Theology of Matter,” Mormon Studies Review 4, no. 1 (2017): 70. https://scholarsarchive.byu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1077&context=msr2 Longchenpa and the Possession of the Dakinis, from Tantra in Practice, by David Germano and Janet Gyatso https://www.degruyter.com/document/doi/10.1515/9780691190457-020/html?lang=en

Two for one!  Grace vs. works is one of our favorite topics, and the foreknowledge of God is another!  The two articles from BYU Studies we are covering today relate to each other in fascinating ways. Join us as we discuss how we can approach Grace using LDS and Protestant theology, and how the paradoxes of omniscience can be used to discover more about our own relationship with reality, time, and agency.  This was a fun one! Link to our Face in Hat discord server! https://discord.gg/MnSMvKHvwh Dialogue Podcast Network https://www.dialoguejournal.com/podcasts/ Understandings of the Relationship between Grace and Works, by Terryl L. Givens https://byustudies.byu.edu/article/understandings-of-the-relationship-between-grace-and-works/ On the Foreknowledge of God: Time, Knowledge, Reality, Agency, by Rosalynde F. Welch https://byustudies.byu.edu/article/on-the-foreknowledge-of-god/ The full issue: Yet to be revealed, open questions in Latter-Day Saint theology. Edited by Eric A. Eliason and Terryl L. Givens https://byustudies.byu.edu/journal/60-3/ (I think this is the one I was referring to! -Aaron) After All We Can Do...Grace Works, by Robert L. Millet https://deseretbook.com/p/after-all-we-can-do-grace-works-robert-l-millet-902?variant_id=132598-paperback Believing Christ: The Parable of the Bicycle and Other Good News, by Stephen E. Robinson https://deseretbook.com/p/believing-christ-parable-bicycle-other-good-news-stephen-e-robinson-3355?variant_id=108581-hardcover Aaron's top three talks :) The Mediator, by Elder Boyd K. Packer https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/1977/04/the-mediator The Purifying Power of Gethsemane, by Elder Bruce R. McConkie https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/1985/04/the-purifying-power-of-gethsemane Beware of Pride, by President Ezra Taft Benson https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/1989/04/beware-of-pride Pelagianism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pelagianism Original Grace, by Adam S. Miller https://www.amazon.com/Original-Grace-Adam-S-Miller/dp/1639930248 Book of Mormon infinite atonement: Alma 34: 9-14 https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/bofm/alma/34?lang=eng&id=p9-p14#p9 2 Nephi 9:7 https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/bofm/2-ne/9#p7 The Autobiography of Parley Parker Pratt by Parley P. Pratt https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/44896 Our episode that includes the Great God by Orson Pratt https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/52-divinization-and-deity/ Exploring Mormon Thought: Volume 1, The Attributes of God, by Blake T. Ostler https://www.amazon.com/Exploring-Mormon-Thought-Attributes-God-ebook/dp/B0077YUTJE Gospel Topic: God the Father https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/gospel-topics/god-the-father D&C 130:7, “...past, present, and future… are continually before the Lord.” https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/130?lang=eng&id=p7#p7 The “eternal now” quote: “the past, the present, and the future were and are, with Him, one eternal ‘now.'” History of the Church, 4:597, quoted here: https://history.churchofjesuschrist.org/content/knowledge-of-gods-plan If You Could Hie to Kolob https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/music/library/hymns/if-you-could-hie-to-kolob “Space is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space.” – Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/14434-space-is-big-you-just-won-t-believe-how-vastly-hugely Joseph Smith and the Possibility of Comics Andrew Knaupp and Sal Velluto, Pillar of Light Mark Elwood, The Glass Looker Noah Van Sciver, Joseph Smith and the Mormons, by Eric W. Jepson https://www.dialoguejournal.com/articles/joseph-smith-and-the-possibility-of-comics-andrew-knaupp-and-sal-velluto-pillar-of-light-mark-elwood-the-glass-looker-noah-van-sciver-joseph-smith-and-the-mormons/

When exactly are we supposed to be obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law? Nathan Oman's article on Civil Disobedience in Latter-day Saint Thought took us down a winding road exploring this question. Ride along! Link to our Face in Hat discord server! https://discord.gg/MnSMvKHvwh Dialogue Podcast Network https://www.dialoguejournal.com/podcasts/ Civil Disobedience in Latter-day Saint Thought, by Nathan B. Oman https://byustudies.byu.edu/article/civil-disobedience-in-latter-day-saint-thought/ The full issue: Yet to be revealed, open questions in Latter-Day Saint theology. Edited by Eric A. Eliason and Terryl L. Givens https://byustudies.byu.edu/journal/60-3/ General conference https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/2023/04?lang=eng Peacemakers Needed, by President Russell M. Nelson https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/2023/04/47nelson?lang=eng The Restoration of Conscientious Objection, by Ron Madsen https://www.dialoguejournal.com/articles/british-latter-day-saint-conscientious-objectors-in-world-war-i QI Series M, Episode 2 - Military Matters (transcript) https://www.comedy.co.uk/tv/qi/episodes/13/2/ Google Books Ngram Viewer: conscientious objection and civil disobedience https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=conscientious+objection%2Cconscientious+objector%2C+civil+disobedience&year_start=1800&year_end=2019&corpus=en-2019&smoothing=3 Doctrine and Covenants 98 https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/98?lang=eng The Ghost of Eternal Polygamy: Haunting the Hearts and Heaven of Mormon Women and Men, by Carol Lynn Pearson https://www.amazon.com/Ghost-Eternal-Polygamy-Haunting-Hearts/dp/0997458208 Wiki on “The Freeze” in Ghana https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Church_of_Jesus_Christ_of_Latter-day_Saints_in_Ghana#%22The_Freeze%22 You Can't Close My Heart: Ghanaian Saints and the Freeze https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/media/video/2015-12-0001-you-cant-close-my-heart-ghanaian-saints-and-the-freeze?lang=eng Helmuth Hübener https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helmuth_H%C3%BCbener Hübener, a play by Thomas F. Rogers https://www.amazon.com/Huebener-Other-Plays-Thomas-Rogers/dp/0963261800 (This includes a review of the play Hübener!  Check it out!) Review: The Plays of Thomas F. Rogers, by B. Kent Harrison https://squaretwo.org/Sq2ArticleHarrisonThomasRogers.html The Darkest Abyss: Strange Mormon Stories, by William Morris.  Look for the story “Reach”, a science fiction story about an oppressive future where a bishop is released from a calling his conscious mind doesn't realize he held. https://www.amazon.com/Darkest-Abyss-Strange-Mormon-Stories/dp/1948218682

Our church's framing of the apostasy and restoration is changing, and Miranda Wilcox wrote about it!  How we narrate our religious history affects our general understanding of Christian history, and can help us better appreciate the centuries of progress between the ancient apostles and 1820. Link to our Face in Hat discord server! https://discord.gg/MnSMvKHvwh Narrating Religious Heritage: Apostasy and Restoration, by Miranda Wilcox https://byustudies.byu.edu/article/narrating-religious-heritage/ Joseph Smith and the Possibility of Comics Reviewed by Theric Jepson Dialogue 56, no. 1, Spring 2023 (in press) Pillar of Light, by Andrew G. Knaupp (Author), Sal Velluto (Illustrator) https://www.cedarfort.com/pages/pillar-of-light The Glass Looker, by Mark Elwood https://theglasslooker.com/about/ Joseph Smith and the Mormons, by Noah Van Sciver https://amzn.to/3JPxRJw Ada Palmer and the Weird Hand of Progress, by Gregory Barber https://www.wired.com/story/ada-palmer-sci-fi-future-weird-hand-progress/ Remnant or Replacement? Outlining a Possible Apostasy Narrative, by Nicholas J. Frederick and Joseph M. Spencer https://scholarsarchive.byu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=5076&context=byusq 1st Nephi 11-14 https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/bofm/1-ne/11 John the Baptist wiki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_the_Baptist How the Irish Saved Civilization: The Untold Story of Ireland's Heroic Role From the Fall of Rome to the Rise of Medieval Europe (The Hinges of History), by Thomas Cahill  https://amzn.to/3I4v8uF Martyrs' Crossing, by Melissa Leilani Larson https://www.melissaleilanilarson.com/martyrs-crossing

So, was Jesus married? Our holiday edition of our series on open questions follows Christopher James Blythe's article on the same question. Conspiracy, Assassin's Creed, Dan Brown, this one's got it all. Lots of great links in the show notes! See you next year! Link to our Face in Hat discord server! https://discord.gg/MnSMvKHvwh Dialogue Podcast Network https://www.dialoguejournal.com/podcasts/ Was Jesus Married?, by Christopher James Blythe https://scholarsarchive.byu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=5137&context=byusq The full issue: Yet to be revealed, open questions in Latter-Day Saint theology. Edited by Eric A. Eliason and Terryl L. Givens https://byustudies.byu.edu/journal/60-3/ The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail, by The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holy_Blood_and_the_Holy_Grail Wiki on the book! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holy_Blood_and_the_Holy_Grail Identical ancestors point https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identical_ancestors_point Terrible Revolution: Latter-day Saints and the American Apocalypse, by Christopher James Blythe https://amzn.to/3WBKo6E LDS Church Issues Statement Regarding "The Da Vinci Code" https://www.ksl.com/article/266159/lds-church-issues-statement-regarding-the-da-vinci-code Evil along the Mississippi: Stories from Nauvoo, by Christopher James Blythe https://irreantum.associationmormonletters.org/17-1-evil-along-the-mississippi-stories-from-nauvoo/ Introducing Introductions to Mormon Thought.  The first two books are linked there and below: Eugene England: A Mormon Liberal, by Kristine Haglund, and Vardis Fisher: A Mormon Novelist https://www.press.uillinois.edu/wordpress/introducing-introductions-to-mormon-thought/ https://www.press.uillinois.edu/books/?id=p058332 https://www.press.uillinois.edu/books/?id=83xxc9pb9780252044090 Dialogue Book Report #19: Strange Mormon Fiction: Dave Butler and William Morris https://www.dialoguejournal.com/podcasts/dialogue-book-report-19-strange-mormon-fiction-dave-butler-and-william-morris/

Agency is critical to the plan of salvation, and the adversary wanted it gone. But how? Philip L. Barlow wrote a banger of an article in Dialogue looking at prevailing theories, and argues the theology yields critical implications for how Mormons interact with government, politics, and church organization.  It's a great read!!! Philip L. Barlow has a doctorate of theology (Th.D.) from the Harvard Divinity School and serves on the boards of directors for the Society for Mormon Philosophy and Theology and the Dialogue Foundation.  How cool is that? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Barlow Link to our Face in Hat discord server! https://discord.gg/MnSMvKHvwh Dialogue Podcast Network https://www.dialoguejournal.com/podcasts/ Article for today: “Shards of Combat: How Did Satan Seek to Destroy the Agency of Man?”, by Philip L. Barlow https://byustudies.byu.edu/article/shards-of-combat/ The full issue: Yet to be revealed, open questions in Latter-Day Saint theology. Edited by Eric A. Eliason and Terryl L. Givens https://byustudies.byu.edu/journal/60-3/ Darlene Young's “A plan of salvation” isn't yet published, but will appear in Irreantum's next issue, “The Plan”. https://irreantum.associationmormonletters.org/ Moses 4:3 https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/pgp/moses/4?lang=eng#p3 Bonus!  Jaywalking chat was cut from the episode, but enjoy Adam Ruins Everything - Why Jaywalking Is a Crime https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AFn7MiJz_s

We welcome William Morris aka Wm, founder of A Motley Vision, onto our show to talk about the BYU studies article, The King Follett Discourse: Pinnacle or Peripheral?, by James E. Faulconer and Susannah Morrison.  We talk about the nature of individuality, intelligence, and our own eternal destiny, as revealed by Joseph Smith and studied by prophets and scholars ever since.  We even may have come to a new conclusion on the discourse as a whole?  Join us! Link to our Face in Hat discord server! https://discord.gg/MnSMvKHvwh Dialogue Podcast Network https://www.dialoguejournal.com/podcasts/ Article for today: The King Follett Discourse: Pinnacle or Peripheral?, by James E. Faulconer and Susannah Morrison https://byustudies.byu.edu/article/the-king-follett-discourse-pinnacle-or-peripheral/ The full issue: Yet to be revealed, open questions in Latter-Day Saint theology. Edited by Eric A. Eliason and Terryl L. Givens https://byustudies.byu.edu/journal/60-3/ Motley Vision website https://motleyvision.org/ The Darkest Abyss: Strange Mormon Stories, by William Morris https://www.amazon.com/Darkest-Abyss-Strange-Mormon-Stories/dp/1948218682 Email subscription for Wm https://buttondown.email/motleyvision God has created “both things to act and things to be acted upon”, 2 Nephi 2:14 https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/bofm/2-ne/2#p14 Science the Key to Theology: Volume One: Preliminaries, by Steven L. Peck https://www.amazon.com/Science-Key-Theology-One-Preliminaries/dp/0998605204 The Marvelous Clouds: Toward a Philosophy of Elemental Media, by John Durham Peters https://www.amazon.com/Marvelous-Clouds-Toward-Philosophy-Elemental/dp/022625383X Dark Watch and other Mormon-American stories, by William Morris  https://www.amazon.com/Dark-Watch-other-Mormon-American-stories-ebook/dp/B00WQHCCFG Talking to Dante in the Spirit World,by Daniel Cooper https://irreantum.associationmormonletters.org/talking-to-dante-in-the-spirit-world-by-daniel-cooper/ Hemingway in Paradise and Other Mormon Poems, by Scott Hales https://www.amazon.com/Hemingway-Paradise-Other-Mormon-Poems/dp/B09WQBHBQG Thanks to our sponsor!  Check out Beyond the Witch's Woods: Book One of the Kingdom of Adair, by Nathan K Caulder  https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0BF2Q4TJX/

It's a two for one today as we look at two BYU studies articles on whether God ever has or is currently progressing, and on progression in the afterlife.  Go deep with us!  It's so much fun!  Plus Hadestown makes an appearance! Link to our Face in Hat discord server! https://discord.gg/MnSMvKHvwh Thanks to our sponsor!  Check out Beyond the Witch's Woods: Book One of the Kingdom of Adair, by Nathan K Caulder  https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0BF2Q4TJX/ Two articles in this episode: What Is the Nature of God's Progress?, by Matthew Bowman https://byustudies.byu.edu/article/what-is-the-nature-of-gods-progress/ How Limited Is Postmortal Progression?, by Terryl L. Givens https://byustudies.byu.edu/article/how-limited-is-postmortal-progression/ Both from the full issue: Yet to be revealed, open questions in Latter-Day Saint theology. Edited by Eric A. Eliason and Terryl L. Givens https://byustudies.byu.edu/journal/60-3/ Brain cells in a lab dish learn to play Pong — and offer a window onto intelligence, by Jon Hamilton https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2022/10/14/1128875298/brain-cells-neurons-learn-video-game-pong Heike's Void, by Steven Peck (Author) https://www.amazon.com/Heikes-Void-Steven-Peck/dp/1948218550 The Plan, a play by Eric Samuelsen https://sunstone.org/wp-content/uploads/sbi/articles/155-06-31.pdf Slaughterhouse-Five: A Novel, by Kurt Vonnegut  (Author) https://www.amazon.com/Slaughterhouse-Five-Novel-Modern-Library-Novels/dp/0385333846 Hilbert's paradox of the Grand Hotel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hilbert%27s_paradox_of_the_Grand_Hotel Infinity - Here Come the 123s, by They Might Be Giants https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=pTpEB-Y2Ai0&list=OLAK5uy_ltENVxaQXfqCtKD-WTW_t38dlM81kvy-E How To Count Past Infinity - Vsauce https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrU9YDoXE88 Infinity is bigger than you think - Numberphile https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elvOZm0d4H0 (Aaron) I couldn't quite verify it, but it's rumored that Matthew Bowman's The Mormon People: The Making of an American Faith states that James Talmadge was one of the first Mormon's with a Ph.D. https://www.amazon.com/Mormon-People-Making-American-Faith/dp/081298336X Talking to Dante in the Spirit World, by Daniel Cooper https://irreantum.associationmormonletters.org/talking-to-dante-in-the-spirit-world-by-daniel-cooper/ Hadestown!  It's the best.  Here's a spotify link. https://open.spotify.com/album/1J1yxODbNlqKbwRqJxYJUP Hades!  Also the best.  Get it on steam or it's free right now on xbox if you have game pass! https://www.supergiantgames.com/games/hades/ Joseph Smith and the Mormons Hardcover, by Noah Van Sciver  https://www.amazon.com/Joseph-Smith-Mormons-Noah-Sciver/dp/141974965X Next time!  The King Follett Discourse: Pinnacle or Peripheral?, by James E. Faulconer and Susannah Morrison https://byustudies.byu.edu/article/the-king-follett-discourse-pinnacle-or-peripheral/ Our related previous episode: 2.2 Canonization and the King Follett Discourse https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/22-canonization-and-the-king-follett-discourse/

Welcome to season 5! In this season we are studying the recent BYU Studies Quarterly issue 60:3: “Yet to be revealed, open questions in Latter-Day Saint theology.” In each of the articles, an unsettled, open question is presented along with viewpoints from LDS authorities, theologians, and scholars. The goal is not to resolve or debate but to present and discuss, a take we appreciate.  Join us!  Our first episode is on the article “Oh Say, What Is Truth?”: Approaches to Doctrine, by Michael A. Goodman. Link to our Face in Hat discord server! https://discord.gg/MnSMvKHvwh Full issue: Yet to be revealed, open questions in Latter-Day Saint theology. Edited by Eric A. Eliason and Terryl L. Givens https://byustudies.byu.edu/journal/60-3/ Introduction to a BYU Studies Quarterly Special Issue on Open Questions in Latter-day Saint Theology, by Eric A. Eliason and Terryl L. Givens https://byustudies.byu.edu/article/introduction-3/ “Oh Say, What Is Truth?”: Approaches to Doctrine, by Michael A. Goodman https://byustudies.byu.edu/article/oh-say-what-is-truth/ Optimistic Nihilism - The philosophy of Kurzgesagt, by Kurzgesagt – In a Nutshell https://youtu.be/MBRqu0YOH14 People of Paradox: A History of Mormon Culture, by Terryl L. Givens https://www.amazon.com/People-Paradox-History-Mormon-Culture/dp/0199915989 Argument - Monty Python https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohDB5gbtaEQ

Mormons love the Old Testament and everything about the Jewish faith and culture.  Join us as we go into the history of Judaic influences on the LDS faith, and the sometimes complex relationship between our faiths. Link to our Face in Hat discord server! https://discord.gg/MnSMvKHvwh Colonialism - The Board Game Struggle, by No Pun Included https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQuFSxs9VXA Wiki: Judaism and Mormonism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judaism_and_Mormonism What Is Cultural Appropriation?, by The Editors of Encyclopaedia Britannica https://www.britannica.com/story/what-is-cultural-appropriation The Complicated Relationship between Mormons and Jews, by Matthew Bowman (free registration and free trial required) https://mosaicmagazine.com/response/history-ideas/2020/07/the-complicated-relationship-between-mormons-and-jews/ Reverence vs Chutzpah, by thmazing https://motleyvision.org/2013/05/01/reverence-vs-chutzpah/ Selections from Jews and Words by Oz and Oz-Salzberger, by thmazing https://thmazing.blogspot.com/2013/03/selections-from-jews-and-words-by-oz.html Jews and Words, by Amos Oz and Fania Oz-Salzberger https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0300156472/ Cats, Feces, Zombies, Jews, Wars, Princesses, Prophets, Exes, Screenplays, blog post by thmazing https://thmazing.blogspot.com/2013/03/cats-feces-zombies-jews-wars-princesses.html#lineage What Is It About Mormonism?, by Noah Feldman (subscription required) https://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/06/magazine/06mormonism-t.html (Aaron) I couldn't find the reference for Spencer W. Kimball sharing a joke with the Lord, but I did find the awesome list of jokes and stories about Spencer W. Kimball.  Highly recommended! Spencer W. Kimball: A Man of Good Humor, by Edward L. Kimball https://scholarsarchive.byu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2389

A fun primary lesson led to a deeper discussion of historicity and truth in the book of Joshua. Link to our Face in Hat discord server! https://discord.gg/MnSMvKHvwh What Do We Mean When We Say that the Scriptures Are True?  By Michael Austin https://bycommonconsent.com/2021/05/23/what-do-we-mean-when-we-say-that-the-scriptures-are-true/ Wiki: the conquest of Caanan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Joshua#Entry_into_the_land_and_conquest_.28chapters_2.E2.80.9312.29 Come follow me: Joshua https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/come-follow-me-for-individuals-and-families-old-testament-2022/22 On Writing Heike's Void, by Steven L. Peck https://www.associationmormonletters.org/2022/06/on-writing-heikes-void-by-steven-l-peck/ Heike's Void, by Steven L. Peck https://www.amazon.com/Heikes-Void-Steven-Peck/dp/1948218550 Wiki: Battle of Jericho https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Jericho Song of solomon footnote https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/ot/song/1?lang=eng#note Americapox: The Missing Plague, by CGP Grey https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEYh5WACqEk Ada Palmer and the Weird Hand of Progress, by Gregory Barber https://www.wired.com/story/ada-palmer-sci-fi-future-weird-hand-progress/ Thoughts to Keep in Mind: The Historical Books in the Old Testament https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/come-follow-me-for-individuals-and-families-old-testament-2022/22-thoughts Mormon Literature at the 57th Annual MHA Conference, by Liz Busby https://www.associationmormonletters.org/2022/05/mormon-literature-at-the-57th-annual-mha-conference/

Reading scientific papers requires a critical mindset, but often ‘critical' has a negative connotation. How can we apply critical reading to scriptures and conference addresses? This is especially relevant in the context of recent conference addresses and discourse in the Mormon community on Heavenly Mother (see especially Dialogue's spring issue, “Heavenly Mother in Critical Context”). Link to our Face in Hat discord server! https://discord.gg/MnSMvKHvwh Infographic: How to read a scientific paper, by Natalia Rodriguez https://www.elsevier.com/connect/infographic-how-to-read-a-scientific-paper Answering Gospel Questions https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/gospel-topics/answering-gospel-questions?lang=eng How to Tell a True War Story, by Tim O'Brian https://www.ndsu.edu/pubweb/~cinichol/CreativeWriting/323/OBrienWarStory.pdf The things they carried, by Tim O'Brian https://www.amazon.com/Things-They-Carried-Tim-OBrien/dp/0618706410 Your Divine Nature and Eternal Destiny, By Elder Dale G. Renlund (see footnote 10) https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/2022/04/36renlund Dialogue, Spring 2022. “Heavenly Mother in Critical Context.” https://www.dialoguejournal.com/issues/spring-2022/ In Defense of Heavenly Mother: Her Critical Importance for Mormon Culture and Theology, by Margaret Toscano https://www.dialoguejournal.com/articles/in-defense-of-heavenly-mother-her-critical-importance-for-mormon-culture-and-theology/ Abbott & Costello 7 x 13 = 28 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzxVyO6cpos Queer Mormon Theology: An Introduction, by Blaire Ostler https://www.amazon.com/Queer-Mormon-Theology-Blaire-Ostler/dp/1948218410 Mother's Milk, by Rachel Hunt Steenblik  https://www.amazon.com/Mothers-Milk-Rachel-Hunt-Steenblik/dp/0998605220 Finding Mother God: Poems to Heal the World Hardcover, by Carol Lynn Pearson  https://www.amazon.com/Finding-Mother-God-Poems-World/dp/1423656687 Dove Song: Heavenly Mother in Mormon Poetry.  Edited by Tyler Chadwick, Dayna Patterson, and Martin Pulido http://www.peculiarpages.com/books/dove-song/

Dr. Eugene England and Elder Bruce R. McConkie really didn't agree on many points regarding the nature of God and the destiny of souls. For today's show, we highly recommend Rebecca England's essay linked in the show notes!  We cover it briefly but it's worth your time! D&C 1:30 https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/1?lang=eng&id=30#p30 The vision: D&C 76 https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/76 “The Vision”, by Matthew McBride (includes quote from Brigham Young and his brother Joseph) https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/revelations-in-context/the-vision?lang=eng#p12 D&C 19:11-19 https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/19?lang=eng&id=11-19#p11 So Ask No More…, by Mario R. Montani. Translated by Gabriel González. (Spanish) https://irreantum.associationmormonletters.org/y-no-preguntes-mas/ (English) https://irreantum.associationmormonletters.org/so-ask-no-more/ A Professor and Apostle Correspond: Eugene England and Bruce R. McConkie on the Nature of God, by Rebecca England http://www.eugeneengland.org/a-professor-and-apostle-correspond-eugene-england-and-bruce-r-mcconkie-on-the-nature-of-god The Seven Deadly Heresies, by Bruce R. McConkie https://speeches.byu.edu/talks/bruce-r-mcconkie/seven-deadly-heresies/ Stretching the Heavens: The Life of Eugene England and the Crisis of Modern Mormonism, by Terryl L. Givens https://www.amazon.com/Stretching-Heavens-Eugene-England-Mormonism/dp/146966433X Here's a direct link to the quote that blew Aaron away, from Articles of Faith by, James Talmage, pg 421 https://www.gutenberg.org/files/42238/42238-h/42238-h.htm#Page_421 Printed vs. audio version of The Seven Deadly Heresies https://www.fairlatterdaysaints.org/answers/Primary_sources/Bruce_R._McConkie/Seven_deadly_heresies

Happy new year!  We revisit older shows, adding updates on finance (billions of dollars worth), the Provo temple, the Devil in church meetings and certain prophecies about the color of horses.  Link to our Face in Hat discord server! https://discord.gg/MnSMvKHvwh More about the deseret alphabet and Unicode by Kenneth R. Beesley: https://www.unicode.org/L2/L2002/02169-deseret.pdf https://uofupress.lib.utah.edu/an-1860-english-hopi-vocabulary-written-in-the-deseret-alphabet/ https://www.tug.org/TUGboat/tb25-0/beesley.pdf Original whistleblower article, by Jon Swaine, Douglas MacMillan and Michelle Boorstein: https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/mormon-church-has-misled-members-on-100-billion-tax-exempt-investment-fund-whistleblower-alleges/2019/12/16/e3619bd2-2004-11ea-86f3-3b5019d451db_story.html Some Thoughts About Ensign Peak Advisers and the Church, by Sam Brunson https://bycommonconsent.com/2019/12/17/some-thoughts-about-ensign-peak-advisers-and-the-church/ Let's Talk About Money, by Sam Brunson https://bycommonconsent.com/2021/08/21/lets-talk-about-money/#more-115349 Response to church's response, by Sam Brunson https://twitter.com/smbrnsn/status/1208433565945487360 The Good Shepherds musical: https://thegoodshepherds.net/about-the-show Provo temple pictures: https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/temples/photo-gallery/provo-utah-temple?lang=eng Irreantum issue: Joe Smith and the Devil https://irreantum.associationmormonletters.org/18_1_top/ Sympathy for the “Devil”, by Roxy Rawson: https://irreantum.associationmormonletters.org/sympathy-for-the-devil/ Film Theory: Star Wars, How The Mandalorian PROVES the Empire was Right! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjWokxCfCvs Eric's comment in twitter thread on the OT: https://twitter.com/thmazing/status/1476590787408252934

Starting off with the history of the People's Park in Berkley, we segway into discussing Emily Kaplan's article in the Washington Post, “The Rise of the Liberal Latter-day Saints.” It's a great article and has generated lots of discussion, especially around LBGTQ issues. Join us!  Link to our Face in Hat discord server! https://discord.gg/MnSMvKHvwh People's Park (Berkeley) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Park_(Berkeley) The Rise of the Liberal Latter-day Saints and the battle for the future of Mormonism, by Emily Kaplan https://www.washingtonpost.com/magazine/2021/09/27/rise-liberal-latter-day-saints/ First Person: Berkeley's Matt Marostica on How to Make Progressive Change within a Conservative Church https://www.kqed.org/forum/2010101885956/first-person-berkeleys-matt-marostica-on-how-to-make-progressive-change-within-a-conservative-church Fireside podcast Ep. 6—No Compartments (David Dark) https://www.firesidepod.org/episodes/dark Life's Too Short to Pretend You're Not Religious, by David Dark  https://www.amazon.com/Lifes-Short-Pretend-Youre-Religious/dp/0830844465 Human History Gets a Rewrite, by William Deresiewicz https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2021/11/graeber-wengrow-dawn-of-everything-history-humanity/620177/ Garden of Enid: Enid vs. The Big Tent, by Scott Hales https://thegardenofenid.tumblr.com/post/94527291396/enid-vs-the-big-tent-8122014/amp Benjamin Park's response to Emily Kaplan's essay https://twitter.com/BenjaminEPark/status/1442616042627469312 Prop 8 - The Musical https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_hyT7_Bx9o Stretching the Heavens: The Life of Eugene England and the Crisis of Modern Mormonism, by Terryl L. Givens https://www.amazon.com/Stretching-Heavens-Eugene-England-Mormonism/dp/146966433X

Brigham Young loved the Deseret alphabet, and so do we. It's so cool looking and old and kinda weird. It's perfect Mormon history and it's forever enshrined in Unicode.  Let's take a look! Link to new Face in Hat discord server! https://discord.gg/MnSMvKHvwh Start here! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deseret_alphabet English Phonotypic Alphabet, developed by Sir Isaac Pitman and Alexander John Ellis ​​https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Phonotypic_Alphabet George D. Watt https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_D._Watt A Simplified Alphabet, by Mark Twain https://englishliterature.net/mark-twain/a-simplified-alphabet Monsters and Mormons https://www.amazon.com/Monsters-Mormons-Wm-Henry-Morris/dp/0982781245 Quite Interesting, J series, ep 13, Jobs https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/B084DL9FQC/ref=atv_dp_season_select_s10 Making Peace: Personal Essays, by Eugene England, Chapter 4, On Bringing Peace To BYU, With The Help Of Brigham Young http://signaturebookslibrary.org/on-bringing-peace-to-byu-with-the-help-of-brigham-young/ Dialogue Book Report #13: Kristine Haglund on Eugene England https://www.dialoguejournal.com/podcasts/dialogue-book-report-13-kristine-haglund-on-eugene-england/ The Deseret Alphabet in Unicode, by Kenneth R. Beesley http://www.chem.ucla.edu/~jericks/Historical%20or%20Technical/History%20Looking%20Backwards/Ken%20Beesley/Deseret%20in%20Unicode.pdf The Stainless Steel Rat https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat

Did you know they had smallpox vaccines in the 1700s?  Join us as we kick off season 4 of Face in Hat with some history and then an in-depth look at one of the most important modern miracles, the mRNA vaccine against Covid 19. Link to new Face in Hat discord server! https://discord.gg/MnSMvKHvwh The Plague Year: The mistakes and the struggles behind America's coronavirus tragedy, by Lawrence Wright https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/01/04/the-plague-year Twitter thread by by Michael Harriot on Cotton Mather, Onesimus, and smallpox vaccinations in the 1700s   https://twitter.com/michaelharriot/status/1432060194276659203 Inoculation Origins https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inoculation#Origins The History of Pediatric Infectious Diseases, by Stanford T Shulman https://www.nature.com/articles/pr200425/ Deseret Evening News | 1900-11-17 | To the Latter-Day Saints https://newspapers.lib.utah.edu/details?id=1906891&q=smallpox&parent_i=1906796 LDS Humanitarian Programs https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/topics/humanitarian-service/church LDS Church kicks in $20M toward global COVID vaccination push, by Peggy Fletcher Stack https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2021/02/26/lds-church-kicks-m-toward 2 Billion COVID-19 Vaccinations Roll out to At-Risk Populations Church donation helps support UNICEF's role in global effort https://www.latterdaysaintcharities.org/blogs/2-billion-covid-19-vaccinations-roll-out-at-risk-populations The sprint to solve coronavirus protein structures — and disarm them with drugs, by Megan Scudellari https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-01444-z mRNA Vaccine (not mentioned on the show, but excellent :) https://xkcd.com/2425/ Why It Actually Took 50 Years to Make COVID mRNA Vaccines, SciShow, Hosted by: Hank Green https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPeeCyJReZw COVID-19 mRNA vaccines: How could anything developed this quickly be safe? By Moon Nahm, M.D. https://www.uab.edu/news/youcanuse/item/12059-covid-19-mrna-vaccines-how-could-anything-developed-this-quickly-be-safe The tangled history of mRNA vaccines, by Elie Dolgin https://doi.org/10.1038/d41586-021-02483-w How the vaccine works (Tik Tok) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OmQp6GNJSQ

We missed posting this one during Pride month, but it's relevant! Join us for a conversation with local beloved Berkeleyite Paul.  We hear how his relative worked on the Oakland Temple in the 50s, and about Paul's life being gay in San Francisco in the 80s. He loves the temple, and hearing his testimony was delightful.  Thanks Paul!   David O. McKay and the Rise of Modern Mormonism, by Gregory A Prince and WM Robert Wright https://www.amazon.com/David-McKay-Rise-Modern-Mormonism/dp/0874808227 Photos! Sandwiches!  From Paul: “It was nice to happily share sandwiches in 1962 with a person born in 1874.” https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/8pyxrz/arthur_sandwiches.jpg Calligraphy: https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/7rfc9k/arthur_calligraphy.png Photos from the Oakland Temple construction: https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/da6h64/oaklandtempleconstruction1.png https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/bq3jh4/oaklandtempleconstruction2.png

We had too many great stories to fit into our Church building program episode so here's some more from Aaron's uncles!

Aaron's Grandpa was a building missionary who built churches all over the pacific northwest.  We welcome Aaron's uncles onto the show (yay!) who helped build these churches as the family moved from location to location. We were very happy to hear what it was like on the ground during one of the most rapid expansions in the church's history. Thanks for joining us! David O. McKay and the Rise of Modern Mormonism, by Gregory A Prince and WM Robert Wright https://www.amazon.com/David-McKay-Rise-Modern-Mormonism/dp/0874808227 Essential Craftsman https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzr30osBdTmuFUS8IfXtXmg Mission letter https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/i8qqi3/mckay_letter_r.png Dialogue Fireside #4 with Benjamin Park, “Mormonism's Many Modernisms: What the Faith's Alternative Trajectories in the Early Twentieth Century Tell Us About the Twenty-First.” https://www.dialoguejournal.com/podcasts/dialogue-fireside-4-w-benjamin-park/

Temple renovations in Manti were scheduled to remove murals by LDS painter Minerva Teichert, but that decision was reversed. Join us as we look into her story and work, art in the church in general, and how remembrance and ritual soaks in our very beings. Minerva Teichert https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minerva_Teichert The Deseret Alphabet https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deseret_alphabet John Hafen's "O My Father" illustrations: https://byustudies.byu.edu/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/36.1PheyseyTestimony-b101cd84-1291-4e99-8614-0844a61b49f9.pdf Harvesting the Light: The 1890 Paris Art Mission, by Giles H. Florence, Jr. https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/ensign/1988/10/harvesting-the-light-the-1890-paris-art-mission Manti Utah Temple https://churchofjesuschristtemples.org/manti-utah-temple/ Lots of prints available for the two paintings we mentioned. Since we didn’t want to endorse a particular website, here are some convenient google searches to see them: https://www.google.com/search?q=queen+esther+minerva+teichert&tbm=isch https://www.google.com/search?q=christ+in+the+red+robe+minerva+teichert&tbm=isch Minerva Teichert’S Manti Temple Murals, by Doris R Dant https://byustudies.byu.edu/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/38.DantMinerva.pdf Point and Counterpoint: Point: It’s just art, by Jonathan Green  https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2021/03/its-just-art/ Counterpoint: A Feeling of Loss–On Murals and Temples, by Chad Nielsen https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2021/03/counterpoint-a-feeling-of-loss/ Mormon News report https://mormonnewsreport.com/ Ritual, Remembrance, and Minerva Teichert’s Art, by Russel Arben Fox https://bycommonconsent.com/2021/04/05/ritual-remembrance-and-minerva-teicherts-art/ At Last She Said It podcast, Episode 049: Mirror, Mirror, On the Wall https://atlastshesaidit.org/episode-049-mirror-mirror-on-the-wall/ Icons https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icon What the LDS Church wants to know from its young adult members, by Jana Riess https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2021/03/23/jana-riess-what-lds/

This was a fun one and we went all over the place. From a really great 1700s poem on truth, to BYU spy rings, to the nature of character in education, join us as we look at what church education looked like in the 60s and speculate on how it might have been different today. David O. McKay and the Rise of Modern Mormonism, by Gregory A Prince and WM Robert Wright https://www.amazon.com/David-McKay-Rise-Modern-Mormonism/dp/0874808227 "Act Well Thy Part", David O. McKay's Lifelong Motto https://education.byu.edu/magazine/winter2016/act_well_thy_part "Home Literature", Orson F. Whitney http://mldb.byu.edu/homelit.htm Isaac Watts https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Watts High res shot of the Isaac Watts poem, from “The improvement of the mind” https://archive.org/details/suppimproveofmin00wattuoft/page/72/mode/2up Ernest L. Wilkinson, spy ring on wiki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernest_L._Wilkinson#The_1966_BYU_spy_ring_controversy Ernest L. Wilkinson and the 1966 BYU Spy Ring: A Response to D. Michael Quinn, by Jeff D. Blake https://www.dialoguejournal.com/wp-content/uploads/sbi/articles/Dialogue_V28N01_175.pdf Dialogue book report podcast https://www.dialoguejournal.com/dialogue-book-report/ Why Utah Mormons Should Become Democrats: Reflections On Partisan Politics http://signaturebookslibrary.org/why-utah-mormons-should-become-democrats-reflections-on-partisan-politics/

How did the church become international?  How much more do we have to go?  Let’s look at David O. McKay’s contribution and see how we can apply it to our present church. David O. McKay and the Rise of Modern Mormonism, by Gregory A Prince and WM Robert Wright https://www.amazon.com/David-McKay-Rise-Modern-Mormonism/dp/0874808227 Liken the scriptures unto yourselves: https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/bofm/1-ne/19.23-24#23 Find more about the Beyond the Block and the Foyer podcasts on Dialogue! https://www.dialoguejournal.com/podcastnetwork/ Hajj https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hajj Regarding our discussion of international vs. global.  This episode was recorded before General Conference, and the Spring 2021 Sunday Morning session was awesome.  Nearly every talk was from an international member and there was lots of international music.  Seemed like a great step. https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/2021/04/sunday-morning-session

For Black History Month, we study Chapter 4 of David O. McKay and the Rise of Modern Mormonism: “Blacks, Civil Rights, and the Priesthood.” The ban on black people holding the Priesthood was lifted in 1978.  The people, politics, and circumstances leading up to it, particularly in McKay’s time in the 50s and 60s, makes for a difficult, but fascinating conversation.  Struggle along with us as we grapple with the past to try and shape a better future. David O. McKay and the Rise of Modern Mormonism, by Gregory A Prince and WM Robert Wright https://www.amazon.com/David-McKay-Rise-Modern-Mormonism/dp/0874808227 Leiland Tanner - Coat of Colors (Kolobyte Peculiar Mix), from Peculiar People by Kolobyte https://kolobyte.bandcamp.com/track/leiland-tanner-coat-of-colors-kolobyte-peculiar-mix Gospel topic: Race and the Priesthood https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/gospel-topics-essays/race-and-the-priesthood Standing on the Promises, Book One: One More River to Cross, by Margaret Blair Young https://amzn.to/3km0EGQ Martin Luther King Jr:  Letter from a Birmingham jail https://www.africa.upenn.edu/Articles_Gen/Letter_Birmingham.html Wiki: J Reuben Clark https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Reuben_Clark#Racism_and_anti-Semitism The Color of Law: A Forgotten History of How Our Government Segregated America, by Richard Rothstein https://amzn.to/2Nwaf22 Redlining https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redlining Why I Hate White Jesus, by James Goldberg http://mormonmidrashim.blogspot.com/2020/05/why-i-hate-white-jesus.html More on Anthony Obinna https://www.thechurchnews.com/archives/2005-08-27/coming-full-circle-in-west-africa-90096 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVxNYQd4-v4

Following our theme of change in the church, we look at how our approach to media has changed over the last half century, from the early days of broadcasting to recent attitude shifts regarding social media and embracing new forms of communication David O. McKay and the Rise of Modern Mormonism, by Gregory A Prince and WM Robert Wright https://www.amazon.com/David-McKay-Rise-Modern-Mormonism/dp/0874808227 An Honest Liar (2014) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2246565/ “‘Julie Through the Glass’: The Rise and Fall of the Mormon TV Commercial”, By Rollo Romig https://www.newyorker.com/culture/culture-desk/julie-through-the-glass-the-rise-and-fall-of-the-mormon-tv-commerical “Be an Example of the Believers”, Mary N. Cook (2010) https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/2010/10/be-an-example-of-the-believers LDS General Conference Corpus https://www.lds-general-conference.org/ President Hinkley on 60 minutes https://www.cbsnews.com/news/an-interview-with-gordon-hinckley/ Kurzgesagt – In a Nutshell https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsXVk37bltHxD1rDPwtNM8Q

What do we do when we disagree with family, neighbors, and friends over things so important to us that it seems impossible to reconcile?  David O’McKay’s fundamental belief in free agency and love of those around him meant he respected other’s beliefs and lived a life of tolerance, while still taking action when he thought it was needed.  In this episode we look at specific examples of tolerance from his life and try to apply these lessons to our own lives as we navigate the modern world of opinion and debate. David O. McKay and the Rise of Modern Mormonism, by Gregory A Prince and WM Robert Wright https://www.amazon.com/David-McKay-Rise-Modern-Mormonism/dp/0874808227 Transcript of President Joe Biden’s inauguration speech https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/20/joe-biden-inauguration-speech-transcript-full-text-460813 Juanita Brooks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juanita_Brooks Dialogue Fireside, January 17: Benjamin Park on “Mormonism’s Many Modernisms: What the Faith’s Alternative Trajectories in the Early Twentieth Century Tell Us About the Twenty-First.” https://www.dialoguejournal.com/podcasts/dialogue-fireside-4-w-benjamin-park/ More on Amy B Lyman and Franklin S Harris https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amy_B._Lyman https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franklin_S._Harris Matters of Conscience, by Sterling M. McMurrin and L. Jackson Newell http://signaturebookslibrary.org/sterling-m-mcmurrin/ No Man Knows My History: The Life of Joseph Smith, by Fawn M. Brodie. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Man_Knows_My_History

Today we discussed McKay Coppin’s article “The Most American Religion”, published in The Atlantic. It’s a great read or listen (find the audio link in the article!). We were particularly interested in his discussion of how our desire for acceptance affects how we interact with others as people of faith, and we applied that to our own experiences being LDS on the internet. The Most American Religion, by McKay Coppins: https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2021/01/the-most-american-religion/617263/ Benjamin Park’s thread on the difference between a global and international church: https://twitter.com/benjaminepark/status/1340140374279548928

David O’McKay helped strengthen interfaith relationships during his tenure as President of the Church, yet Mormonism and the Catholic Church had a rocky relationship in the late 50s.  Thanks to several key events and the loving patience and ministry of Catholic Bishop Duane Hunt, the rift was healed and David O’McKay’s own attitude was changed.  Can this be a model for healing divides in modern communities?  Maybe!  Let’s talk about it! The Great Brain book series: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Brain David O. McKay and the Rise of Modern Mormonism, by Gregory A Prince and WM Robert Wright https://www.amazon.com/David-McKay-Rise-Modern-Mormonism/dp/0874808227 Bible dictionary on Prayer.  If you’ve never read this it’s worth your time :) https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/bd/prayer The Purifying Power of Gethsemane, by Bruce R. McConkie. Again, one of the most powerful talks on the Atonement ever written. https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/1985/04/the-purifying-power-of-gethsemane Mormon Doctrine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormon_Doctrine_(book)

‘Tis the season for a show about politics!  Join us as we look at political polarization in the 50s and 60s and trace its effects all the way forward to 2020. David O. McKay and the Rise of Modern Mormonism, by Gregory A Prince and WM Robert Wright https://www.amazon.com/David-McKay-Rise-Modern-Mormonism/dp/0874808227 The Law of Consecration https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_consecration The United Order https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Order#cite_note-Clark04-1942-26 Diogenes was searching for an honest man (and may have been earth’s first green lantern): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diogenes https://twitter.com/jdp_writes/status/1321901575535812609 Fearreantum https://irreantum.associationmormonletters.org/17-1-top/ This Scary Statistic Predicts Growing US Political Violence — Whatever Happens On Election Day, by Peter Aldhous https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/peteraldhous/political-violence-inequality-us-election Whoops, the quote attributed to Jimmy Carter about if you don’t want your tax dollars to help the poor then you don’t want a country based on Christian values, was actually said by comedian  John Fugelsang! https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/jimmy-carter-helping-poor/ Arthur Watkins’s memoir is called “Enough rope: The inside story of the censure of Senator Joe McCarthy by his colleagues, the controversial hearings that signaled the end of a turbulent and a fearsome era in American public life” Folding Ideas: In Search Of A Flat Earth https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTfhYyTuT44 QAnon Is a New American Religion, by Caroline Mimbs Nyce https://www.theatlantic.com/newsletters/archive/2020/05/qanon-q-pro-trump-conspiracy/611722/ Newt Gingrich Says You're Welcome, by McKay Coppins https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/11/newt-gingrich-says-youre-welcome/570832 And just for fun, a J. Golden Kimball quote on politics: https://twitter.com/thmazing/status/1320982721225584640

Ever heard of the baseball baptisms?  Missionary Work during David O’Mckay’s presidency has some swings!  Come for the crazy stories and stay for the embarrassing ones. We continue reading “David O. McKay and the Rise of Modern Mormonism,” this time chapter 10, “Missionary Work”. Whence the Early Baptismal Challenges, by Angela C. https://bycommonconsent.com/2019/08/06/whence-the-early-baptismal-challenges/

During President McKay’s tenure, the church tripled its membership.  The reorganization of the church to handle this unprecedented growth was known as ‘correlation’.  How did this process affect the church, its quorums and auxiliaries? What were some of the side effects?  We again use David O. McKay and the Rise of Modern Mormonism as a reference for today, focusing on chapter 7, “Correlation and Church Administration”. David O. McKay and the Rise of Modern Mormonism, by Gregory A Prince https://www.amazon.com/David-McKay-Rise-Modern-Mormonism/dp/0874808227 Useful wikipedia article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priesthood_Correlation_Program Article on women healing: https://digitalcommons.usu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1064&context=mormonhistory  “There Is Always a Struggle”: An Interview with Chieko N. Okazaki, by Greg Prince. Dialog 45, no. 1 (Spring 2012). https://www.dialoguejournal.com/wp-content/uploads/sbi/articles/Dialogue_V45N01_CO.pdf “What have the Joseph Smith Papers taught me?”, by Steve Evans  https://bycommonconsent.com/2020/08/24/what-have-the-joseph-smith-papers-taught-me/

Welcome to season 3!  We introduce our themes for the year, and after that take a deep dive on baptism. This year we’ll be focusing on change in the church, and how our expectations of true doctrine clash with the realities of a people-led church. Notes: “I’m coming to the conclusion that 1933 was the hinge upon which modern Mormonism pivoted: It was the year BH Roberts died and J Reuben Clark joined the First Presidency, thus marking the sunset of one potential Mormon trajectory and the dawn of another.” -Benjamin Park https://twitter.com/BenjaminEPark/status/1299770339971526656 Wikipedia for B. H. Roberts and J. Reuben Clark: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B._H._Roberts https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Reuben_Clark David O. McKay and the Rise of Modern Mormonism, by Gregory A Prince https://www.amazon.com/David-McKay-Rise-Modern-Mormonism/dp/0874808227 Comic on B.H. Roberts, from The Garden of Enid: Adventures of a Weird Mormon Girl, Part One, by Scott Givens (click ‘look inside’ and search for doubts) https://amzn.to/31XkLU8 4th article of faith https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/pgp/a-of-f/1.4#4 Gospel topics: Baptism https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/gospel-topics/baptism D&C 76 https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/76 Eric’s lecture on the first vision: https://youtu.be/aFSicnZ3B3k Gospel topic on the vision, or D&C 76.  See especially the vido linked therein: https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/history/topics/the-vision-dc-76 D&C 19:15-19 https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/19.15-19#15 Sin Does Not Exist: And Believing That It Does Is Ruining Us, by S. Richard Bellrock https://www.sunstonemagazine.com/sin-does-not-exist/ A Monopoly on Exaltation, by user Ziff https://zelophehadsdaughters.com/2020/08/24/a-monopoly-on-exaltation/ The Mediator, by Boyd K. Packer.  ← Powerful atonement talk https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/1977/04/the-mediator Twitter thread on the Mediator, see several links here: https://twitter.com/thmazing/status/1301747609854332928

The second season of Face in Hat concluded with the previous episode regarding Christopher Columbus and Black Lives Matter.  We'll be starting our third season this fall with more episodes, continuing as part of the Dialogue podcasting network.   In the meantime, enjoy Eric’s lecture, "Triangulating God: Eighty-seven Angles on the First Vision."  In it, Eric approaches the question of "how to explain an experience no one shares?  Joseph Smith struggled throughout his life to explain the First Vision and now Latter-day Saint artists take up this impossible mantle.”  Part of an ongoing series on the First Vision through the Oakland California Stake.   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFSicnZ3B3k

“Bioshock Infinite can make you feel uncomfortable.” - Kevin VanOrd.  So will 2020.  We talk about civic religion in the video game Bioshock Infinite and how it relates to the apotheosis of Christopher Columbus and racism in the church. We end with a discussion of the current nationwide protests and affirm that #BlackLivesMatter. We thank @BenjaminEPark for two twitter threads that inspired this episode and we cite him extensively.  See https://twitter.com/benjaminepark/status/1164696231634976768 and https://twitter.com/BenjaminEPark/status/1267489043840827392.   Bioshock infinite trailer: https://youtu.be/EsJ55BzIvkE Bioshock infinite review by Kevin VanOrd review from GameSpot: https://youtu.be/jSA9AsdBh00 The Apotheosis of Washington vs. Bioshock Infinite’s Garden of New Eden https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Apotheosis_of_Washington https://bioshock.fandom.com/wiki/Garden_of_New_Eden (see the Entryway to Eden)   Benjamin Park’s thread https://twitter.com/benjaminepark/status/1164696231634976768 Land of Promise in The Book of Mormon, by Tyler Livingston (note, on the show I said Orson Hyde added the footnote to 1 Ne 13:12, but it was Orson Pratt) https://www.fairmormon.org/blog/2010/09/16/land-of-promise-in-the-book-of-mormon Christopher Coloumbus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Columbus Visit of eminent spirits to Wilford Woodruff (include Ezra Taft Benson quote) https://josephsmithfoundation.org/wiki/eminent-spirits-appear-to-wilford-woodruff References for Book of Mormon commentary by George Reynolds https://gospeldoctrine.com/book-mormon/1-nephi/1-nephi-13 George Reynolds: Loyal Friend of the Book of Mormon, by Bruce A. Van Orden https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/ensign/1986/08/george-reynolds-loyal-friend-of-the-book-of-mormon Columbian Exchange https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbian_exchange Americapox: The Missing Plague, by CGP Grey https://www.cgpgrey.com/blog/americapox Guns, Germs, and Steel: The Fates of Human Societies, by Jared Diamond Ph.D. https://amzn.to/36YaHLB Protests thread by Benjamin Park https://twitter.com/BenjaminEPark/status/1267489043840827392 David O. McKay and the Rise of Modern Mormonism, by Gregory A Prince and Wm. Robert Wright https://amzn.to/36S59Ch Mayflower: Voyage, Community, War Paperback, by Nathaniel Philbrick https://amzn.to/3dnDsE0 The Book of Mormon for the Least of These, Volume 1, by Fatimah Salleh and Margaret Olsen Hemming https://amzn.to/2Mmetow The Lost 116 Pages: Reconstructing the Book of Mormon's Missing Stories, by Don Bradley https://amzn.to/36QFBpa Racism in the Church: https://twitter.com/TaranTrinnaman/status/1267837998751776771  Melodie’s request: https://twitter.com/Kid_melodie/status/1267209095028891654

We love the Fall. Adam, Eve, fruit, the whole thing.  Today we talk about the LDS perspective on the Fall, including what LDS scriptures bring to understanding this monumental event. Nifty poetry too! A Harmony of the Creation Accounts, from the Pearl of Great Price Student Manual https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/the-pearl-of-great-price-student-manual-2018/a-harmony-of-the-creation-accounts?lang=eng The Pearl of Greatest Price: Mormonism's Most Controversial Scripture, by Terryl Givens https://amzn.com/dp/B07WNK63SY Aaron’s concordance between Genesis 3 and Moses 4 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PsZXaUJ_hAbsGzhS0vC5s-UP4A94pf0V8oGci4ZSXQM/edit?usp=sharing Adam and Eve (LDS movement, wiki) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_and_Eve_(Latter_Day_Saint_movement) Gospel topic: Fall of Adam and Eve https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/gospel-topics/fall-of-adam-and-eve The Fulness of the Gospel: The Fall of Adam and Eve, Ensign June 2006 https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/ensign/2006/06/the-fulness-of-the-gospel-the-fall-of-adam-and-eve Gospel Classics: Adam’s Role in Bringing Us Mortality, by President Joseph Fielding Smith https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/ensign/2006/01/adams-role-in-bringing-us-mortality Perelandra, once again cited! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perelandra The Redemption of Eve, by Jolene Edmunds Rockwood http://www.mormonmonastery.org/PDF/TheRedemptionofEve.pdf Moses 5:11 https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/pgp/moses/5.11#11 “UTopia” by Laura Nielson Baxter, collected in “Fire in the Pasture: 21st Century Mormon Poets” https://amzn.to/2xJs6dY  What Was Left of the Stars, by Claire Åkebrand http://amzn.to/2wL1x5r Eric’s comments on Claire Åkebrand’s poem, “‘First Actors”, from the above collection https://motleyvision.org/2017/09/05/claire-akebrands-what-was-left-of-the-stars/#more-12058 Witchy Eye, by D. J. Butler https://amzn.to/3cGwLMy

We take a break from our LDS miscellany to discuss the current pandemic using the recent conference as a backdrop. Please note the upcoming world-wide fast on Good Friday. “We will conquer the coronavirus, apostle Holland says” https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2020/04/05/latest-sundays-lds/ April 2020 World Report https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSqT1bPmYb8 Mosiah 4:16-19 https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/bofm/mosiah/4.16-19#16 Crowd-fight COVID-19: an initiative from the scientific community to put all available resources at the service of the fight against COVID-19: https://crowdfightcovid19.org/ President Nelson Invites World to Participate in Fast on Good Friday https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/president-nelson-invites-world-to-participate-in-fast-on-good-friday