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The Hexatrek is a 3000 km long-distance trail across France that begins at the border of Germany, traverses the Pyrenees Mountains, and ends at the Bay of Biscay.  Thomas works for the Hexatrek organization and spent the summer and fall of 2022 hiking and documenting the trail.  Thomas is able to recognize the realities of hiking a long and share all sides of that reality.  He can describe the trail as an epic adventure that includes vineyards, castles, and mountains, but he'll also tell you how mentally complacent you can become when one view blends into the next.If you're dreaming of backpacking through France one day, you're going to love this episode.Enjoy!Emory, By LandShow NotesIntroduction to the HexatrekHexatrek backstoryEuropean hiking culture and trail experienceThru-hiking popularity in EuropeThe importance of having a beginning and endHiking the Hexatrek vs an American long trailDaily life and cadence of the trailMaking the hike your ownVisa considerationsCamping along the HexatrekFood along the Hexatrek Experiencing France by footThomas's backpacking storyThe highs and lows of thru-hikingThoughts on losing reverence for an experience Life after the HexatrekFinding balance in life is actually finding contrastThe importance of gaining perspective through contrast What's next for the HexatrekWhy “Hexatrek” Linkshttps://en.hexatrek.com/https://www.instagram.com/hexatrek/https://www.facebook.com/LHexatrek/https://www.instagram.com/cartapouillehttps://youtu.be/9qIlOONM8sYPodcast:Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/in-a-tent-with-a-french-man-a-daily-thru-hiking-journal/id1502733870Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0P8RD04n8UX0ubqwnFOvXj?si=b502ebfdafda4793Support the showThanks for listening! Check out the links below to learn more, connect, and support the show. Connect: emory@byland.co Main Website: https://byland.co/ Courses Homepage: https://courses.byland.co/ Learn How To Backpack: https://courses.byland.co/learnhowtobackpack 6 Weeks To Solo Backpacking: https://courses.byland.co/6-weeks-to-solo-backpacking-waitlist Recommended Backpacking Gear: https://byland.co/recommended-gear-summary YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@EmoryByLand Facebook Groups: https://byland.co/facebook-groups Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/emory_by_land Support the Show: https://byland.co/donate

Andrew Skurka is known throughout the backpacking industry as someone who knows what they're talking about when it comes to spending time in the backcountry. He was thru-hiking before it became popular and has hiked well over 20,000 miles across both long and short expeditions. Andrew now operates a backpacking guide service. Andrew is a wealth of knowledge for all things backpacking, but also has great insight into the mindset the backcountry requires.If you enjoy learning from the best, this episode will not disappoint. Show NotesHow Andrew Skurka got into thru-hikingHow far backpacking has come since the early daysHiking the AT in the early daysThe benefit of uninterrupted long-duration hikes/adventuresThe importance of having an “end” to an expedition or experienceOn being goal-oriented rather than “wandering”How Andrew got into being a backpacking guide mindset from a guide to teacherLearning to slow downLearning to navigate groups and personalitiesHigh Routes explained How Andrew got into high routesThe natural progression of outdoor explorationPlans for future expeditionsAndrews backpacking advice Andrews favorite gear Thoughts on synthetic or natural fibers How to followup with Andrew SkurkaLinksWebsite: https://andrewskurka.com/Guided Trips: https://andrewskurka.com/guided-trips/By Land LinksLearn How To Backpack: https://courses.byland.co/learnhowtobackpack6 Weeks To Solo Backpacking: https://courses.byland.co/6-weeks-to-solo-backpacking-waitlistYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@EmoryByLandFacebook Groups: https://byland.co/facebook-groupsInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/emory_by_landSupport the Show: https://byland.co/donate

Katie O'mara is the driving force behind Trail Magik, an outdoor brand whose mission is to make hiking and backpacking with toddlers efficient and more enjoyable. Once kids grow out of their backpack-style carriers, parents are forced into deciding how far their little ones can hike before needing to be picked up, but oftentimes riding in a backpack is too much trouble because all the toddler really needs is a small break from walking. That's where Trail Magik comes in.Katie and her husband developed a lightweight and simple solution to giving toddlers a break from the trail by designing an adaptable kid carrier that attaches to any normal backpack. It allows a child to be carried on the front rather than the back and can be easily stowed away when not used.As a parent with kids who have outgrown their larger carrier, I found myself looking for the solution that Trail Magik offers and after a bit of research, purchased one. I then reached out directly to Katie to see if she'd be willing to come on the show to talk about what they have going on and she kindly said she would.Katie is the best. She has a heart of gold and sincerely cares about her community. From the struggles of owning a small business to the ups and downs of being an outdoor family, we cover all of it in this episode and I came away from our conversation feeling inspired and encouraged.For those out there with young families trying to figure this whole thing out, I think this episode will be a bright spot in your day. It's conversations like this one that keep me going and I'm glad that people like Katie are out there encouraging others to be adventurous with their families.If you're interested in picking up a carrier of your own or for someone else, you can use the code BYLAND to save 10% off at www.trailmagik.com.Show NotesIntroductionsThe Trail Magik origin storyWhy the carrier works for walking toddlersEntrepreneurial lifeLearning to get outdoors with kidsPreparing for new outdoor adventuresWhat it's like putting a product into the worldThe importance of being yourselfFeeling the pressure to adventureDo what you WANT to do out thereDefining an “outdoor” familyGrowing up in the outdoorsWhy parents feel the pull to bring their kids outsideCreating an outdoor lifestyleBiggest barriers for parents and kids in the outdoorsLearning to enjoy the hiking parts of backpackingKatie's closing thoughtsHow to followup with Katie and Trail MagikLinkswww.trailmagik.comClick Here for 10% off ( or use code: BYLAND at checkout)InstagramYouTubeBy Land LinksLEARN HOW TO BACKPACK: https://courses.byland.co/learnhowtobackpackYOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChSSISEgIfwYz2cc0aHQj3gJOIN A FACEBOOK GROUP: https://byland.co/facebook-groupsINSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/emory_by_landLEAVE A TIP: https://byland.co/donate

Tommy Corey's eye for outdoor portrait photography landed him front and center in the hiking community during his 2018 PCT thru-hike when he began posting fashion-esque portraits of fellow thru-hikers under the project name “Hiker Trash Vogue.” The photo project captured the attention of major outdoor brands and was even featured in Outside Online. Tommy received high accolades for his work, but it was also pointed out that his subjects did not represent a range of diverse backgrounds in the outdoors. Tommy went to work studying and trying to understand better what “diversity” and “inclusion” meant in the outdoors and in 2022 found himself once again on a trail headed north along the Continental Divide Trail. It took him 800 miles of hiking to realize he was not doing what he set out to do by documenting diversity in the outdoors so he left the trail to pursue a new and comprehensive portrait project he calls “All Humans Outside.” The idea is to be able to open a book of 100 portraits and stories and see someone like yourself represented in the outdoors.This podcast episode is a conversation between myself and Tommy about his CDT realizations, his upcoming project, and what “diversity” and “inclusion” really mean in the outdoors. This is a topic I often find to be tough to nail down at times, not to mention for some, emotionally charged. Those terms along with ones like “community” are thrown around like candy these days and I find myself sincerely wondering where it all leads and how to approach it. Conversations like this one aren't meant to solve problems. They're meant to discuss them and gain perspective which is exactly what I personally achieved. Please enjoy this episode with Tommy Corey.Show NotesCatching up with Tommy after Hiker Trash VogueWhat happened on the CDT in 2022What Tommy was seeing and NOT seeing on the trailThe creative process on the trail The idea of thru-hikes as a PilgrimmageWhat the PCT meant to TommyTommy's new BIG projectUnderstanding what diversity and inclusion actually meanTommy's creative process What diversity and inclusion meansThoughts on what “community” isTakeaways from Tommy's interviewsTaking on such a big photo project Experiencing how others enjoy the outdoorsUnderstanding the “why” behind your actionsDetails on the release dates of the photo book How to follow the projectLinkstommycoreyphoto.comAll Humans Outside on InstagramPersonal InstagramBy Land LinksLEARN HOW TO BACKPACK: https://www.learnhowtobackpack.com/YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChSSISEgIfwYz2cc0aHQj3gJOIN A FACEBOOK GROUP: https://byland.co/facebook-groupsINSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/emory_by_landLEAVE A TIP: https://byland.co/donate

This is the second part of a two-part mini-series with Marketa and David Daley who in 2022 hiked 1300 miles of the Pacific Crest Trail with their 3 young kids. David and I dive into the more holistic side of hiking the trail and explore the meaning behind the struggle and process of a thru-hike. For anyone who enjoys the non-technical side of a thru-hiking discussion, you'll enjoy this, especially if you're a parent yourself.David and I dive into what it was like to hike as Father on the PCT, how hard it was to learn to hike as slow as a child, and the spiritual connection we feel toward wild spaces. A thru-hike is a difficult thing to process and it was great to have the chance to explore the experience with David so soon after the end of his hike. Show NotesDigesting the trailThe importance of immersing yourself in the wildernessThoughts on possible long-term effects of thru-hiking with kids (hopes versus reality)Experiencing the PCT as a Dad Parental roles and responsibilities on the trail Holding hands for 500 miles then letting go…Learning to hike all-dayWhat it's like hiking at a child's paceReasons behind the hike The spiritual connection to wild spacesIs life balance possible?The willingness to easily find excuses not to do something Imagining life without the PCT Understanding why you hikeBreakthrough moments on the trailReflecting on relationships with fellow hikersThe importance of communityFinal thoughtsLinkshttps://www.instagram.com/daleywalkBy Land LinksLEARN HOW TO BACKPACK: https://www.learnhowtobackpack.com/YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChSSISEgIfwYz2cc0aHQj3gJOIN A FACEBOOK GROUP: https://byland.co/facebook-groupsINSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/emory_by_landLEAVE A TIP: https://byland.co/donate

Marketa and David Daley backpacked 1300 miles of the Pacific Crest Trail in 2022 with their 3 kids and proved to themselves that yes, it was possible to hike the PCT as a family. At times they moved at a snail's pace, questioned their own sanity, and were forced to find creative ways to motivate their kids to continue moving down the trail. Together as a family, they experienced the highs and lows of trail life, strengthened their family bonds, and in the end, found what they were looking for. This is part 1 of a 2 part episode series where I interview Marketa and David separately to learn about them as people, their background, their motivations, and finally their hiking story. I'm sincerely honored and humbled to have them on this podcast and grateful that they're willing to share their experiences in such a real and transparent way. Show NotesIntroductionsInitial expectations for the PCTEmory's internal conflict with kids on long trailsHow Marketa and her family decided to hike Maketa's personal outdoor backstory Previous hikes with kids leading up to the PCTWhy the PCT was so daunting as a hike How the kids transitioned to the trailThe first 20 milesAnticipating the struggle of a thru-hike with kidsHow parenting changed on the PCTHow outdoor activities changed with more kidsHow to break the barriers and remove excusesLessons learned with gearChoosing kid's clothes for backpackingThe importance of just startingMotivating kids to keep movingHow parenting on the trail differs from parenting on the trail How the trail bonded the kidsThe transition from trail to homeAudience question: Thoughts and advice for taking a 4-year-old hiking and backpacking as a single parentHow to follow up with Marketa Linkshttps://www.instagram.com/daleywalkBy Land LinksLEARN HOW TO BACKPACK: https://www.learnhowtobackpack.com/YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChSSISEgIfwYz2cc0aHQj3gJOIN A FACEBOOK GROUP: https://byland.co/facebook-groupsINSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/emory_by_landLEAVE A TIP: https://byland.co/donate

Evan Guzik is a Public Affairs Officer for the US Forest Service out of the Bridger Teton Forest and joins the podcast to walk me through the basics of wildfires. Not only am I honored to have the US Forest Service represented on my show, but it's made even more special because Evan and I served together in the Marine Corps nearly 20 years ago. My knowledge of wildfires is very basic. Aside from the obvious, I don't really know a whole lot so Evan and I thought it would be good to just cover the basics of how all this stuff works so that we can all learn together and gain a better understanding of wildfires.We cover what prescribed burns are and why they're useful, how fires are managed from beginning to end, what to do if you see a fire or you're around one when you're hiking or backpacking, and how to handle yourself in an area after a burn. There's a lot of great stuff in this episode that to me is really helpful and I think you're going to really enjoy it. Just the fact that I now know more about what goes on in our forests is huge because I figure the more I know, the better a steward I can be out there.If you want to learn more about wildfires, Evan provided some links that I've listed in the show notes so be sure to check those out when you have a chance. Again, this episode is really special to me so thanks to Evan for doing the legwork to make this happen, and thanks to the US Forest Service for being willing to put this out there!Show Notes Introductions Catching up with EvanEvan's backstoryWildfire burns, prescribed burns, and a brief history of forest managementHow a fire turns from good to badHow a wildfire is fought and managedHow to handle a wildfire if you see one How the Forest Service gauges fire danger To build or not to build a fire?What the public can do to help prevent wildfires Advice for hiking through a burn areaLinkshttps://inciweb.nwcg.gov/ (fire information)https://www.nifc.gov/ (Wildland Fire resources)https://www.nwcg.gov/ (Wildfire Training)https://www.nfpa.org/Public-Education/Fire-causes-and-risks/Wildfire/Firewise-USA (Home Defensible Space)https://smokeybear.com/By Land LinksLEARN HOW TO BACKPACK: https://www.learnhowtobackpack.com/YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChSSISEgIfwYz2cc0aHQj3gJOIN A FACEBOOK GROUP: https://byland.co/facebook-groupsINSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/emory_by_landDONATE: https://byland.co/donate

Alex Harz is a man of many talents. He's a filmmaker, mountaineer, and even a radio host, but for the purpose of this episode we're diving into his Mount Everest Expedition and the film he's produced about it called “The Quest: Nepal:”I've always had a fond appreciation for climbers because of how absolutely absurd it is that a human can climb to such incredible elevations and live to tell about it, but when you start to add layers to these expeditions in the form of photography and video, it's just a totally different beast so when Alex reached out to introduce himself I knew we had to connect.One of the things I always say about this podcast is how grateful I am to meet such amazing people and Alex is no exception. Here's a guy who has far more talents than the average person, has climbed Mount Everest while filming the entire thing, and yet he's as humble and genuine as they come. In fact, the proof is really in the pudding because this film he's produced and the project he's working on isn't actually about him. It's about the people of the Mountain and the culture that makes it what it is.Alex might be the physical vehicle for the telling of a story or the driving force behind it, but when you watch this film, you'll learn quickly that while he does have a personal reason for being there and climbing, he also knows that without the culture and its people, there would BE no climb in the first place.I absolutely loved getting to know Alex and picking his brain about this project he's in the middle of because he was willing to tell his version of the story in a raw and honest way. Sure it's Everest and it's obviously epic in its own right, but there's so much more to it than that, which is what we get into in this episode of the podcast.Please go watch and support Alex's film and what he's doing!Emory, By LandBy Land LinksLEARN HOW TO BACKPACK: https://www.learnhowtobackpack.com/YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChSSISEgIfwYz2cc0aHQj3gJOIN A FACEBOOK GROUP: https://byland.co/facebook-groupsINSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/emory_by_landDONATE: https://byland.co/donateShow Notes and Linkshttps://www.thequestnepal.com/http://www.instagram.com/Alex.Harzhttp://www.instagram.com/TheQuestSerieshttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UClvw8nLPEJvtoScbCje3TgQ?view_as=subscriberhttp://www.alexharz.com/http://www.facebook.com/TheQuestSeriesPagehttps://twitter.com/TheQuestSeriesIntroductionsThe backstory to Everest About “The Quest: Nepal” How Alex's background has helped his mountain climbingThe principle of “yes, and”What makes a person thrive in dangerous situations?Post climb reflections and decompressionsThe spirituality of the mountainWhy culture is so important to The QuestThe history of the Sherpa peopleWhat the future holds for the Mountain and its PeopleWhat you think about when climbingCapturing the climb in VRWhat's next for Alex and The QuestWhat Alex hopes to accomplish with this filmsAlex's advice for achieving a personal goal

You might be wondering what canoe camping and backpacking have in common and why I'd be covering this on a “backpacking” podcast so to answer that question outright - they have ALOT in common. You're required to plan, pack, stabilize a load, and bring what you need to get the job done safely and efficiently. Some canoe trips might be a day or two while others could last months on end if you're on a large expedition. Canoes have been around since the dawn of time and it's a hobby I've always wanted to get into, but never knew where to begin so I decided to reach out to Old Town Canoes to see if they'd give me a crash course on canoeing. They put me in touch with Ryan Lilly and the rest is history.Ryan Lilly works for Old Town, lives in Maine, and knows both backpacking and canoeing. He walks me through the basics of canoeing like how to choose a boat, materials, styles, and what a typical canoe camping loadout might look like. He does a great job of breaking everything down and uncomplicating a somewhat confusing topic (at least for me).I firmly believe that by exploring other outdoor activities, you can get better at your own. Cross-pollinating skillsets is the only way to grow and expand your understanding of how everything works and this episode is a great example of that. The outdoors has endless possibilities and who knows, maybe after this one you'll take interest in canoeing. At the very least, you'll know the basicsEmory, By LandBy Land LinksLEARN HOW TO BACKPACK: https://www.learnhowtobackpack.com/YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChSSISEgIfwYz2cc0aHQj3gJOIN A FACEBOOK GROUP: https://byland.co/facebook-groupsINSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/emory_by_landDONATE: https://byland.co/donateShow Notes and Linkshttps://www.oldtowncanoe.com/https://www.instagram.com/oldtowncanoes/https://www.facebook.com/OldTownCanoe/https://www.youtube.com/user/oldtowncanoeandkayakIntroductionsHow to choose the right canoeUnderstanding canoe materialsStability and how to improve ballastWhen you may need a canoe that tracks betterWhat's so great about canoe campingRyan's typical camping loadoutThe importance of proper planning and safety Common canoeing mistakesRyan's canoe suggestion for EmoryParting thoughtsHow to learn more about Old Town

Paul McTaggart is a family man and backpacker out of New Zealand who in recent years reignited his passion for the outdoors. He and I have been exchanging emails back and forth for some time now and I thought it was time we sit down for a real and open-ended conversation about backpacking. This is the very first episode of the By Land Podcast where I bring you the audience member, and in this case Paul, on the show for a conversation for no other reason than to get to know one another. I consider all of you guys a friend so I figure why not start to get to know you! This episode with Paul is incredible and he lays out an amazing bit of framework when it comes to how he plans for his backpacking trips. We talk about his background and younger years, his time spent hiking to Annapurna Base Camp, getting to know backpacking again after years away, and finally, we cover why it's so important to do what's right for you and your situation in the backcountry (aka the ultra-right backpacking reference).I absolutely loved this conversation with Paul and cannot wait to bring more audience members on the show to get to know them, their stories, and glean what I can from their experiences so we can all learn together.Here's a link to Paul's amazing article and planning process. Click HERE.Emory, By LandBy Land LinksLEARN HOW TO BACKPACK https://www.learnhowtobackpack.com/YOUTUBE https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChSSISEgIfwYz2cc0aHQj3gFACEBOOK GROUP https://www.facebook.com/groups/1192723304224313/INSTAGRAM https://www.instagram.com/emory_by_landDONATE: https://byland.co/donateShow Notes and LinksPauls article and planning process: https://byland.co/blog/planning-for-backpacking-applying-good-practice-principles-from-military-planningIntroductions Paul's backstoryPaul's Annapurna base camp hikePaul's approach to journalingOn getting back into backpacking after years awayParenting and getting kids outdoors at a young ageAdvice for getting started againHow Paul plans his trips (AMAZING structure!)The ultra-right backpacking philosophy Tent choice/design discussionFood and nutrition lessons learnedPlanning for the team, not the dreamEstimating travel time

Melodie Edwards is the host and senior producer of the Modern West Podcast which dives into the history of the west, and how it's shaped our landscapes and modern culture while digging up little-known facts about the past. The show is produced for Wyoming Public Media (aka the state's NPR station) which is now going into its 5th season so for me, it was great to connect with someone who is doing some really great work out there. Being a podcast producer isn't the only thing Melodie is though. She's a bookstore owner and writer, all of which we get into in this episode.The reason Melodie is on the show is to explore this weird crossroad between the past and the present with regard to how we as backpackers and hikers interact with the landscape. For example, for anyone who isn't from the west, or specifically the Montana/Wyoming area, there are a lot of really large ranches in some very beautiful places and those ranches often graze cattle on land that you and I might hike through. So, you could be hiking along and bump into a cow or two, OR maybe you can't access certain areas because it's a private ranch.There's a lot of nuance to this and as we move further and further away from the past when ranching was a major industry, we begin to see a bit of a rub between those generational ranchers and the public who may want to either access their land, pass through it, or find a way to minimize livestock impacts on the landscape. It's a lot, and this is just one aspect of this whole topic.As the producer of the Modern West Podcast and doing her investigative work on topics like this, Melodie is joining the show to help enlighten or educate me (us), on where we've come from, where we are, and where we're going. This podcast isn't always about something clearly related to backpacking because I'd miss out on opportunities like this one to further educate myself on things like land access and the modernization of the west. To me, it's conversations like this one that allow me to look at things through a different lens so that when I'm out there enjoying myself, I know what the heck I'm benefitting from or how it even came to be.As I said, it's a lot and Melodie is here to help me begin to sort it all out.Emory, By LandBy Land LinksLEARN HOW TO BACKPACK https://www.learnhowtobackpack.com/YOUTUBE https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChSSISEgIfwYz2cc0aHQj3gFACEBOOK GROUP https://www.facebook.com/groups/1192723304224313/INSTAGRAM https://www.instagram.com/emory_by_landDONATE: https://byland.co/donateShow Notes and LinksThe Modern West Podcast https://themodernwest.org/IntroductionsMelodie's backgroundThe history of the cowboy in the westThe impact that cattle ranchers have had on the landscapeHow we got to where we are today with the modern landscapesHow cattle did on the landscapeFinding a balanceFinding common groundClosing thoughts

Hammock Gear is one of the original cottage companies in the ultralight backpacking space. When I was just getting into backpacking, it was Hammock Gear that was prolific in the search engines and forums when it came to ultralight quilts. Having such a prolific and respectable brand represented on the podcast is both honoring and humbling to me.Adam and Sally from Hammock Gear join the By Land Podcast to talk about the origins of the company, why and how Adam started it in the first place, and to offer some advice to those looking to make the jump to a hammock setup. This is one of my favorite kinds of episodes because you'll actually get to know the people behind the brand which I think is really important, especially these days with so many great options on the market. It was refreshing to have such a great conversation with a brand that so many people look up to and I have no doubt you'll enjoy this one.As a special offer to listeners, Hammock Gear is offering a 5% site-wide discount code to new customers. If you'd like to take advantage of that offer, use code ByLand5 at checkoutEmory, By LandBy Land LinksLEARN HOW TO BACKPACK https://www.learnhowtobackpack.com/YOUTUBE https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChSSISEgIfwYz2cc0aHQj3gFACEBOOK GROUP https://www.facebook.com/groups/1192723304224313/INSTAGRAM https://www.instagram.com/emory_by_landDONATE: https://byland.co/donateShow Notes and Linkshttps://hammockgear.com/https://www.instagram.com/hammockgear/https://www.facebook.com/HammockGear/https://twitter.com/_hammockgear_IntroductionsAdam's backgroundSally's backgroundHow Hammock Gear startedOn being self-taught with making gearWhat it was like making DIY gear in the early days What's required to stay comfortable in a hammockHow “insulation” worksTroubleshooting sleep issuesHow to transition from a bag to a quiltAdam helps Emory with his hesitation to hammockingAdventures within adventuresSuggested Hammock Gear kitsHammocking resources

The REAL Hiking Viking, aka Jabba, joins the podcast to talk about his upcoming hike up the Continental Divide Trail, life before backpacking, and the importance of doing what makes you happy in life. I've known Jabba for a while now and bumped into him a few places, but this is the first time we've had a chance to sit down to have a conversation. The last time we spoke, he introduced me to the magic that is double-stuffed Oreo and since that was pretty game-changing for me, I figured he probably had something else up his sleeves to share. As it turns out, he did. This conversation isn't about anything in particular, but it IS about a lot of things. It's about life as a “professional” backpacker, finding what gives you enjoyment and pursuing that, knowing where you've come from, and looking forward to where you're going.Emory, By LandBy Land LinksLEARN HOW TO BACKPACK https://www.learnhowtobackpack.com/YOUTUBE https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChSSISEgIfwYz2cc0aHQj3gFACEBOOK GROUP https://www.facebook.com/groups/1192723304224313/INSTAGRAM https://www.instagram.com/emory_by_landDONATE: https://byland.co/donateShow Notes and Linkshttps://www.instagram.com/therealhikingvikinghttps://www.youtube.com/user/therealhikingvikinghttps://thetrek.co/Update on upcoming CDT hike/bikeThe funny thing about Leave No Trace and absolutismDouble-stuffed Oreo admin itemTrail food talkHow food has changed from trail to trailHow this trail is different from a “planning” perspectiveJabba's life before hiking Thoughts on becoming a professional backpackerWhy Jabba keeps goingOn the importance of making it on your own termsWhat about the future?How to follow Jabba's adventures

Backpacking with dogs is something I think most of us dream of doing, but for Bailey Bremner, it's a reality. Bailey is not only an accomplished backpacker and thru-hiker in her own right, but her dogs are too. Prima and Skittles have likely hiked more miles that most and between the 3 of them, they've hiked thousands of miles along some of the most beautiful trails in the United States. Sometimes we tend to overcomplicate things while at the same time underestimating what is actually involved in an activity. Bailey joins the podcast to walk through her experiences backpacking and hiking with her dogs, lessons learned along the way, and offers some sound guidance and advice to those wanting to do the same. Anyone looking to get out there with their furry friends will no doubt come away from this episode with a pile of knowledge and with any luck, just as much encouragement.Go check out Bailey's adventures and enjoy this episode! Emory, By LandBy Land LinksLEARN HOW TO BACKPACK https://www.learnhowtobackpack.com/YOUTUBE https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChSSISEgIfwYz2cc0aHQj3gFACEBOOK GROUP https://www.facebook.com/groups/1192723304224313/INSTAGRAM https://www.instagram.com/emory_by_landDONATE: https://byland.co/donateShow Notes and Linkshttps://themostimportantstep.com/https://www.instagram.com/the_most_important_stepyoutube.com/c/BaileyBremnerBackpacking with Dogs FAQ (Bailey's article)A quick recap of Bailey's recent Pinhoti Trail experienceBackground on Bailey and her past hikes with and without her dogsMistakes made early on with the dogsHow to prepare for longer trips with dogsHow to manage your dogs' milesManaging pack weight for dogsFeeding routines while on trail Options for training your dog for hikes Common mistakes people make backpacking with dogsThoughts on breeds for backpacking Why “structure” is a key part of a dogs' performance on trailAudience Questions:Shelter choice for backpacking with dogs?Thoughts and advice on dog packs/vests“best” breeds for backpacking (additional thoughts)Dog first aid? Foot/pad careWater treatment for dogsHow to keep your dogs from interacting with wildlifeHow to follow up with Bailey

Dylan Tonkin had the crazy idea to take the fun design of a lightweight Hawaiian shirt and marry it with a design that would remind thru-hikers of their favorite long-distance trail. The result was “TownShirt” and it's awesome. This is Dylan's second time on the podcast and in the two-plus years that have passed since our last chat, a lot has changed. Dylan is now married, has a kid, and has taken a fun little business concept and made it a reality with TownShirt. Since that first episode, Dylan and I have stayed in touch so when he randomly sent me a picture of a thru-hiking-inspired hiking shirt he'd been working on, I about fell out of my chair. I knew right away this was going to be something great. The designs were fun, they reflected the iconic imagery of the trail, and the shirts were functional as trail-wear. Over the next few months, Dylan and I talked about what TownShirt was about, how he could give back to the community that had given him so much, and how to go about building a business that reflected his personality and values and not what the outdoor industry says it should be. Those were some of my favorite discussions and I told Dylan that when he was ready, he was welcome back on the show to talk about what he's been up to.That time is now and I couldn't be more excited to put this episode together. Dylan has become one of my favorite people because he's just a genuine person that wants to put positivity out into the world, do the right thing, and make an impact. This episode isn't just about TownShirt, it's about Dylan, it's about community, and finding ways to stay connected to the community we love so much.When you get a chance, please check out Townshirt.co and go give Dylan's startup some love! Emory, By LandBy Land LinksLEARN HOW TO BACKPACK https://www.learnhowtobackpack.com/YOUTUBE https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChSSISEgIfwYz2cc0aHQj3gFACEBOOK GROUP https://www.facebook.com/groups/1192723304224313/INSTAGRAM https://www.instagram.com/emory_by_landDONATE: https://byland.co/donateShow Notes and Linkshttps://www.townshirt.co/https://www.instagram.com/townshirt.coCatching up with DylanThe birth of TownshirtThe mission of TownshirtOn giving more than you takeHow Townshirt is going to give backLearning to not care what others are doingHiking trails in different waysOn the current thru-hiking culture How life has changed as a Dad The Townshirt collaboration with the PCTAHow to followup with Townshirt

Bruce McGlenn is the founder and lead instructor for Human Nature Hunting, a hunting school designed to teach newcomers, instill a connection to our past heritage, and create stewardship among the community by being an active participant in our ecosystem. For those who never grew up in a hunting family, getting into hunting can be a massive hurdle to overcome. Between navigating regulations, gear, and acquiring the skills to not only pursue wild game but then care for it the right way, hunting can no doubt be overwhelming early on. Traditionally, if you want to learn how to hunt, you'd either have to find someone who would teach you or go it alone and figure it out on your own, but Bruce has created a third option. The Human Nature Hunting school is a 4-day in-person course that walks new hunters through the entire hunting process from start to finish. Spanning everything from regulations, to finding game, and even processing game, Bruce has created a one-stop-shop hunting school that will prepare you for the season. But, teaching the skills of hunting isn't the only thing you'll learn. Students attending the course have the chance to connect with one another over shared meals, time in the field, and discuss what it all means and how they feel about it. Hunting is and has always been a community activity. One that brings people together over shared experiences and that's exactly what Bruce has created with Human Nature Hunting.For those on the fence about hunting, curious about the activity, but have nowhere to start, I think this interview with Bruce will be helpful. His approach is sincere and genuine and I think there are a lot of people who could benefit from a mentor like Bruce. His insight and ability to self-reflect are top-notch and it was a pleasure getting to know him on this episode. Emory, By LandBy Land LinksLEARN HOW TO BACKPACK https://www.learnhowtobackpack.com/YOUTUBE https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChSSISEgIfwYz2cc0aHQj3gFACEBOOK GROUP https://www.facebook.com/groups/1192723304224313/INSTAGRAM https://www.instagram.com/emory_by_landDONATE: https://byland.co/donateShow Notes and Linkshttps://www.humannaturehunting.com/https://www.instagram.com/humannaturehunting/https://www.facebook.com/huntingschool/https://humannaturehunting.substack.com/IntroductionsBruce's backstoryHow a hunting school idea took rootsHow an in-person hunting school worksWhat's in the course and what days look likeCommon barriers to entry to huntingHow processing an animal connects you Thoughts on the modern representation of huntingBruce's hunting journals and how they've changed over the yearsOn Bruce's Dads approach to bringing him outdoorsSolo vs. group hunting dynamicsHow to bridge the gap between hunters and non-hunters How to followup with Glenn and Human Nature Hunting

Moose Mutlow is a member of the Yosemite Search and Rescue, the Senior Projects Director for planning, design, and construction of the National Environmental Science Center at Naturebridge in Yosemite National Park, and has spent a lifetime learning and teaching outdoor skills. He has quite a unique background which is why he's able to have the perspective he has on the outdoors and our community as a whole.When I first spoke with Moose and asked him what he'd been most passionate about lately, he told me it was the idea that the outdoor community has become too quick and too eager to shame those who make mistakes outdoors. Rather than practicing compassion and allowing that person to tell their story so we can learn from it, there's a desire to make that person feel bad about the situation they got themselves into which ultimately isolates newcomers to the outdoors and creates a void amongst the community. As a member of SAR, Moose has seen a bad turn to worse and he believes there are things we can learn from these situations if we're simply willing to stop talking and just listen. As you'll hear, Moose has a big heart for people. He wants the very best for them and he wants to strengthen the outdoor community in any way possible. We also discuss the delicate balancing act between adventure and danger and the importance of recording personal stories and then TELLING those stories so that others may learn.All in all, this is a wonderful chat with a really great person who I'm grateful to have on the show. It was a pleasure getting to know Moose and I'm just glad to know there are people like him out there in the world trying to do good things. Emory, By LandBy Land LinksLEARN HOW TO BACKPACK https://www.learnhowtobackpack.com/YOUTUBE https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChSSISEgIfwYz2cc0aHQj3gFACEBOOK GROUP https://www.facebook.com/groups/1192723304224313/INSTAGRAM https://www.instagram.com/emory_by_landDONATE: https://byland.co/donateShow Notes and LinksWebsite: https://www.moosemutlow.com/https://www.instagram.com/moosemutlowSearching: Finding purpose, laughter, and distraction through Search and Rescue https://amzn.to/3vU2dDJWhen Accidents Happen: Managing Crisis Communication as a Family Liaison Officer https://amzn.to/3tJ3w5GIntroductions and backgroundMoose's journey to the National Park ServiceThe problem with public shaming those who have made mistakes outdoorsHow to approach the topic of bad decision makingRiding the line between adventure, risk, and safetyThe importance of mentorshipThe importance of storytelling to pass along lessons learnedHow to properly learn from an emergency scenarioCompassion and humility in SARThe ability to put yourself in someone else's shoesWhy Moose has chosen SARHow to deal with a rescue operation afterwardThe importance of writing out experiences How to have an adventureYosemite Education CenterWhat we can do better in the next 100 yearsHow to followup with Moose

Adam Foss grew up hunting sheep in the mountains with his father and brother. He learned at a young age what it looked like to work hard for something, admire the beauty of accomplishment, and fully appreciate where sheep call home. If you want to hunt sheep, you're going to experience some pretty incredible yet rugged country. Sheep hunting doesn't come easy, which is probably why those that do it are in a league of their own.Fast forward to today, and you'll still find Adam chasing sheep in the fall months when he has the opportunity to, but you might also notice the camera hanging around his neck because he's now a professional photographer who specializes in documenting hunts for some of the biggest names in the industry. He's somehow found a way to make a living from the things he loves most and is without a doubt excelling at it. His skill set as both an outdoorsman and a creative makes him a bit of a unicorn when it comes to the world he works in.Adam's imagery can be found on the pages of photo books and in high-end ads for well-known brands. Chances are that if you follow brands like Sitka, Yeti, or Matthews then you've seen plenty of his work. His images are absolutely stunning and have a way of transporting the viewer to the exact moment in time when the picture was taken.That's what drew me to Adam and his work. I've followed him on social media for years and was always curious about his life, his upbringing, and his thoughts on all of it. Having watched from afar for far too long, I decided to reach out to see if he'd be willing to join me for an episode. He kindly agreed and I couldn't have been more excited. I wanted our conversation to go where it needed to go. I didn't have a specific agenda other than to get to know who Adam is and why he does what he does. Hunting is hard in the mountains and it's made even harder when you have a camera slung around your neck with clients eagerly awaiting an image that only happens once in a lifetime. You can't reproduce moments of adventure; you either get or you don't and Adam knows exactly how to do that.We spend the first portion of the episode getting to know Adam, his upbringing, and how he came to start a freelance photography business with his wife then transition into a more philosophical conversation centered around hunting. Hunting has always been something difficult to explain to those who don't engage in it. No matter how hard you may try to express what it is and what it means to you, all efforts seem to fall flat and never really measure up. It's one of those things you have to experience to fully understand. We discuss this struggle to explain hunting and much more so if you're into that kind of thing, then you're in for a treat.Adam has made a profession out of telling the story of hunting through imagery. He spends time with hunters, guides, and wildlife conservationists, taking care to capture moments that mean something. I am humbled to put Adam on my list of guests and honored to have had the opportunity to connect with him for an episode.I sincerely hope you enjoy this chat with Adam Foss as much as I did. Emory, By LandBy Land LinksLEARN HOW TO BACKPACK https://www.learnhowtobackpack.com/YOUTUBE https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChSSISEgIfwYz2cc0aHQj3gFACEBOOK GROUP https://www.facebook.com/groups/1192723304224313/INSTAGRAM https://www.instagram.com/emory_by_landDONATE: https://byland.co/donateShow Notes and LinksFoss Media: https://www.foss.media/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fossman8Best Laid Plans Film: https://youtu.be/-VzXkJ4yk0MSearching For West Film: https://youtu.be/XoTsM5RYZPUAdam's background and current professionHow Adam manages such a long and active hunting seasonThe relationship between hunting and the discipline of sportDecision making in the mountainsMental tools to deal with hard situations in the backcountryOn Adams long-term relationship with the outdoorsHow Adam's appreciation for the places he goes impacts his photographyHow Adam started a photography business with his wifeAdams passion for sheep Trying to explain the story of hunting to the general public Emory's fall hunting experience with a bear Entering a hunting flow stateWhy hunting is important to our culture and the human experienceThoughts on conservation as a whole How to followup with Adam and his work

JR Harris has been backpacking for 60 years. It all started when his parents decided to send him to Boy Scout camp to avoid summers in NYC and though he may have gone against his own will that first time, it soon became something he missed when the summer came to a close.JR is now in his mid 70's and has seen adventures all around the world. He's been to incredible places, diverse countries, and seen the wildest places, mostly on his own. In 1993 he was elected to the Explorers Club, which is a pretty prestigious honor. You can read all about his adventures in his book “Way Out There: Adventures of a Wilderness Trekker.”I first learned of JR through a backpacking group on Facebook. He'd post vintage backpacking pictures of himself throughout the years and it didn't take me long to realize he was the real deal, so I reached out. We jumped on a call and I knew right away that JR was my kind of person. He was humble, kind, and honest. The kind of person you become after spending so many years exploring the backcountry.It was an honor to speak with him that first time, and I was even more excited to learn he'd be willing to join me for an episode of the podcast. I wanted to learn from JR and hear what his life has been like, how it got started, and where he came from. What happens to a person after 60 years of backpacking? Does it still mean the same things as it once did? Is the fire still alive?I had all the questions and JR answered them with grace. He is no doubt an inspiration to so many and I couldn't be more excited to bring him to you through the podcast. I sincerely hope you enjoy this conversation as much as I did.Emory, By LandBy Land LinksLEARN HOW TO BACKPACK https://www.learnhowtobackpack.com/YOUTUBE https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChSSISEgIfwYz2cc0aHQj3gFACEBOOK GROUP https://www.facebook.com/groups/1192723304224313/INSTAGRAM https://www.instagram.com/emory_by_landDONATE: https://byland.co/donateShow Notes and Linkshttps://www.jrinthewilderness.com/JR's Book - Way Out There: Adventures of a Wilderness TrekkerGetting to know who JR is and his background How and why JR's parents sent JR to summer scout campsWhat it was like returning to the city after a summer of ScoutsHow summers with the Scouts impacted life in the cityJR's thoughts on taking time to himself to re-energizeWhat JR gets out of living on the edge of discomfortThoughts on the life-changing trajectory JR's parents put him on as a young manOn setting an example for younger generationsThe power of being an example JR's book!JR's favorite backpacking tripOn having an adventure regardless of the outcome

Justin Helmkamp completed his Triple Crown of Thru-Hiking in 2021. He's now hiked the Appalachian Trail, Pacific Crest Trail, and the Continental Divide Trail in full. How's that for an accomplishment?! Justin is an outstanding human being. Between his PCT and CDT hikes, he worked as a Wilderness Therapy Guide helping troubled teens. As you'll hear in this episode, it was during that time that Justin developed into who he is today. His hike up the CDT this last summer was one for the books. He not only made the trail his own while capturing some absolutely stunning imagery, but he also freed himself of other people's expectations. This might be my favorite portion of our conversation. In his own words, he'll share a simple yet profound moment on the trail when it all clicked and he let it all go. He found freedom on the CDT this year and I believe that's something we could all celebrate.Give Justin a follow by using the links listed below and please enjoy this episode!Emory, By LandBy Land LinksLEARN HOW TO BACKPACK https://www.learnhowtobackpack.com/YOUTUBE https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChSSISEgIfwYz2cc0aHQj3gFACEBOOK GROUP https://www.facebook.com/groups/1192723304224313/INSTAGRAM https://www.instagram.com/byland.co DONATE: https://byland.co/donateShow Notes and Linkshttps://www.justinhelmkamp.com/@justinhelmkampCatching up with Justin and his recent Triple CrownWhat it feels like to be finishedWhat waiting to hike the CDT did for Justin's personal growthHow experiences in wilderness therapy prepared Justin for the CDTThemes for each trail on a personal levelThe creative juice of a thru-hikeOn giving yourself permission to do something adventurous Thoughts on the “habitual” thru-hiking lifeCDT self-realizationsWhat comes next Favorite spot on the CDTGrizzly bear moments Thoughts on NOBO vs. SOBO on the CDT

Rue McKenrick is no doubt one of the most prolific long-distance hikers today, but he doesn't know how many miles he's hiked because he doesn't care about that. It's not what defines him, but if you need to know then let's just start with his Triple Crown over a decade ago, the many long trails all over the US and abroad, and most recently a 12,000-mile route spanning the perimeter of the contiguous United States. Rue is a hiker, yes, but he's also the Executive Director and founder of the American Perimeter Trail Conference. In the words of the organization itself, “the vision of the American Perimeter Trail Conference is to create a protected corridor of land and natural resources available for recreational use roughly tracing the contiguous United States. The American Perimeter Trail seeks to connect the land, resources, people, and communities. It strives to encourage conservation efforts through recreation, allowing all people and generations to experience the diversity of the contiguous United States.”It's no doubt a gigantic undertaking, but it's one Rue is dedicated to.This conversation touches on a number of topics from where Rue came from, why he hikes, what conservation is so important, what's wrong with the “industry” today, and finally, why he thinks backpackers will save the world.Rue believes in community and sincerely wants to connect us together to form bonds strong enough to heal both ourselves and those around us. Emory, By LandBy Land LinksLEARN HOW TO BACKPACK https://www.learnhowtobackpack.com/YOUTUBE https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChSSISEgIfwYz2cc0aHQj3gFACEBOOK GROUP https://www.facebook.com/groups/1192723304224313/INSTAGRAM https://www.instagram.com/byland.co DONATE: https://byland.co/donateShow Notes and LinksIntroductionsIs backpacking gaining in popularity?Getting to know Rue's backgroundWhy the American Perimeter TrailThe mission of the APTThe inherent nature of building trails What will happen because of trails The APT as a conservation organizationThe APT's approach to conservationWildlife corridors On supporting companies that support conservationThoughts on hiking for a causeThe need to start having open and honest conversationsWhat Rue gets out of backpacking https://americanperimetertrail.org/

Kyle Kamp is a Registered and Licensed Dietitian who specializes in backcountry nutrition and performance. He recently became a full-time operator of his own business, Valley to Peak Nutrition, and is now 100% dedicated to helping people reach their personal goals with nutrition and performance. Kyle is a return guest on the podcast so we spend some time catching up on what's new with him and Valley to Peak Nutrition before diving into audience nutrition questions. This episode is loaded down with great information so enjoy!CALORIE NEEDS CALCULATION:Bodyweight x 10 (then x13) i.e. 165 lbs x 10 = 1650 cal (low end)i.e. 165 lbs x 13 = 2145 cal (high end)CALORIE RANGE = 1650-2145 cal Emory, By LandBy Land LinksLEARN HOW TO BACKPACK https://www.learnhowtobackpack.com/YOUTUBE https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChSSISEgIfwYz2cc0aHQj3gFACEBOOK GROUP https://www.facebook.com/groups/1192723304224313/INSTAGRAM https://www.instagram.com/emory_by_landDONATE: https://byland.co/donateShow Notes and LinksOptimal performance vs practical performanceOn being married to your ideas of nutritionReintroducing Kyle Kamp as a full-time operator of Valley to PeakWhat's in store for Valley To Peak Nutrition going forward?Nutrition across varying culturesFood as a part of all culturesNavigating overall calorie intake and management Managing nutrition on the individual level for the specific personQUESTION: Intermittent fasting on the trailQUESTION: Timing meals in the backcountry How the body decides how and what to use as fuel or stores QUESTION: Where to source energy calories fromQUESTION: Diets for putting the body into recovery mode?QUESTION: Recommended mix of sourced calories?Calorie Needs Calculation: Bodyweight x 10 to 13QUESTION: Thoughts on hydration and energy mixes?QUESTION: Dealing with diabetes on the trail?Website https://www.v2pnutrition.com/Instagram https://www.instagram.com/v2pnutritionFacebook https://www.facebook.com/v2pnutrition/

Chase Tucker is a long-distance backpacker from Tasmania who specializes in training backpackers in the field of overall body mobility and fitness for their outdoor adventures. Chase is also an accomplished backpacker and traveler having hiked through both the Annapurna and Everest regions of Nepal as well as some of Spain's long trails through the Pyrenees mountain range. I first found Chase through YouTube where I easily deep dove a number of his videos both for their information and sense of adventure. Chase has a way of finding a great balance of providing you with important information as well as telling the story of his hike. After a few exchanges online, Chase agreed to come on the podcast to talk about his background, why he does what he does, and the challenges hikers face in terms of overall mobility. This episode is packed full of great actionable information you can implement on your next hike or your training schedule. Chase is one of the most sincere individuals you'll come across and you can tell he has a passion for what he does. He cares deeply about the overall health and wellness of his students and is dedicated to helping them reach their goals. Emory, By LandBy Land LinksLEARN HOW TO BACKPACK https://www.learnhowtobackpack.com/YOUTUBE https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChSSISEgIfwYz2cc0aHQj3gFACEBOOK GROUP https://www.facebook.com/groups/1192723304224313/INSTAGRAM https://www.instagram.com/byland.co DONATE: https://byland.co/donateShow Notes and LinksIntroductions and getting to know ChaseThe backstory on ChaseThe story of Chase helping a fellow hiker fix his lower body on the trailChase's approach to fitness and mobilityIssues the majority of hikers are dealing withCommon feet problemsChoosing footwear for the conditionsAddressing “weak” ankles and finding the root cause Exercises for building ankle strength Daily movement for hikers (video)Addressing hip issues and increasing hip mobilityThe importance of engaging the glutesThe importance of trekking polesBackpacking and hiking in SpainLong-distance hiking through Spain How to follow up with Chase and learn morehttps://basecamptraining.com.au/https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTEopVgqNCUhJq57CxTc4awhttps://www.instagram.com/chase_mountains/https://www.patreon.com/chasemountainshttps://youtu.be/WQauQv4uDLs

What if I told you “weak ankles” aren't really a thing? What if I then told you that, like a muscle, you can strengthen them? Does that sound nice? Me too!Cory Ford joins me on this episode to discuss the realities of “weak ankles,” what that actually means, and what you can do to battle back against previous ankle injuries. By the time this episode is over, you'll have learned about how the body works with regard to footing, how various footwear functions, and how to go about choosing your footwear based on what YOU do. And, if you struggle with what you describe as “weak ankles,” I think you'll come away from this episode feeling excited that you're not doomed to wearing big boots for the rest of your life. Emory, By LandBy Land LinksLEARN HOW TO BACKPACK https://www.learnhowtobackpack.com/YOUTUBE https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChSSISEgIfwYz2cc0aHQj3gFACEBOOK GROUP https://www.facebook.com/groups/1192723304224313/INSTAGRAM https://www.instagram.com/byland.co DONATE: https://byland.co/donateShow Notes and LinksIntroductionsCory's background Misunderstanding “weak ankles”Where to start in shopping for a shoe or bootWhere the “hunting boot” came fromHow to know when you need additional support Defining “shank”The evolution of finding the right footwearThe importance of having a footwear quiverFootwear insolesGear that can actually impact your tripDo blisters mean your boots are bad?The relationship between pack weight and ankle support Optimizing for what you'll ACTUALLY do Closing thoughtshttps://www.angryspike.com/https://www.instagram.com/cory_d_ford/https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUowcOft-UVAWtDJS04LFfw

Renee “Shera” Patrick is the Program Coordinator of the Oregon Desert Trail and has been hiking long distance trails for 20 years! Her work at the ODT has brought led her to be involved in the creation and launch of the new Blue Mountains Trail in NE Oregon which launches May 8, 2021. Renee re-joins the show to catch up on recent happenings on the ODT, the launch of the Blue Mountains Trail, and chat about a proposed wilderness area in SE Oregon.This episode will leave you feeling inspired and with a smile on your face. Renee is an incredible person, hiker, and steward of the backcountry and it was an honor to have her on the show again! Emory, By LandBy Land LinksLEARN HOW TO BACKPACK https://www.learnhowtobackpack.com/YOUTUBE https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChSSISEgIfwYz2cc0aHQj3gFACEBOOK GROUP https://www.facebook.com/groups/1192723304224313/INSTAGRAM https://www.instagram.com/byland.co DONATE: https://byland.co/donateShow Notes and LinksBlue Mountains Trail: https://www.hellscanyon.org/blue-mountains-trailOregon Desert Trail: www.onda.org/OregonDesertTrailBlog: www.sherahikes.com

Bonie Shupe is the GM and Director of Product at Ibex. After a long history of creating some amazing products, Ibex closed its doors a few years ago, but has since been bought and rebooted. Bonie is the brains behind product design and is working hard to create the same great quality merino products that Ibex was known for.When I learned Ibex was back up and running again, I had to know more so I asked Bonie if she'd be willing to come on for a chat. My original intention was to learn more about Ibex, their history, and what they're up to but, as luck would have it, I stumbled onto some profound advice from Bonie based on her experience as an endurance athlete.Yes, this is an episode about Ibex, their products, and how amazing Merino Wool is but, that's just scratching the surface. Bonie takes the time to educate me on the differences of between 100% merino and blended merino, how merino is being used as insulation in garments now, and what it's like getting to reboot a beloved brand.More importantly, Bonie walks me through how she manages herself during endurance events. This is where the gold is, and this is where you'll come away with a new perspective after hearing Bonie speak about her love for pushing her body.I came away from our conversation feeling enlightened, educated, and with a new friend and I think you will too! By Land,Emory R. WangerBy Land LinksLEARN HOW TO BACKPACK https://byland.co/learn-how-to-backpackYOUTUBE https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChSSISEgIfwYz2cc0aHQj3gFACEBOOK GROUP https://www.facebook.com/groups/1192723304224313/INSTAGRAM https://www.instagram.com/byland.co DONATE: https://byland.co/donateShow Notes and LinksIntroductionsWho Bonie is and who she works forHow Bonie got into her line of workBackstory on where Ibex went and how they came back Relaunching a brandBonie's obsession with Merino Wool and why100% merino vs. blends Expanding the uses of Merino (outerwear)Bonie's backstory in the outdoorsBonie's advice for “No expectations”Where Bonie finds her enjoyment of endurance sportsHow Bonie manages her “head” during these eventsOn experiencing the natural world Contemplating the impact we have on the environmentHow to act environmentally responsibleThe future of Ibex and what to look forward toHow to follow up with Ibex https://ibex.com/https://www.instagram.com/ibexwool/https://www.facebook.com/ibexwool/

Doug Laher is the Father of Thru-Hiker Trevor “Microsoft” Laher who tragically passed away while hiking near Apache Peak along the PCT. He was 11 days into his hike when conditions along the trail deteriorated quickly, putting him in a decision to either push through or find another way around. The section of trail he was on had been close for years until this point so any and all tribal knowledge of potential risks had been long since forgotten leaving Trevor and his new hiking partners to gauge for themselves what they should and shouldn't do. Trevor was 22 years old, a graduate of Ohio State, and had a software engineering job waiting for him at Microsoft once his hike of the PCT was complete. He had a determined soul, a brilliant mind, and reflective in all respects. His love of hiking continued to grow year after year and the PCT was to be his pinnacle dream.In the months since Trevor's passing, Doug has taken up a mission to educate hikers on how to approach risks, gauge safety, and make sure PCT hikers know of the dangers of Apache Peak and that section of trail. Doug joins me to tell the story of his Son so that others may learn from it. I'm incredibly honored and humbled to be a small part of Trevor's legacy and I urge all of you who hear his story to take heed of Doug's message and embrace the alternate when and if conditions call for it.By Land,Emory R. WangerBy Land LinksLEARN HOW TO BACKPACK https://byland.co/learn-how-to-backpackYOUTUBE https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChSSISEgIfwYz2cc0aHQj3gFACEBOOK GROUP https://www.facebook.com/groups/1192723304224313/INSTAGRAM https://www.instagram.com/byland.co DONATE: https://byland.co/donateShow Notes and LinksIntroduction to Doug LaherRecapping the events of March 27th, 2020Getting to know TrevorDoug and Trevor's connection over backpackingTrevor's journey to the PCTWhat Trevor wanted from the PCT and why he hiked COVID decision makingTrevors decisions leading up to his fallDoug's mission to educate PCT hikersThe nuances of decision makingDoug's unique take on “hike your own hike”The Event Horizon of decision makingHow Doug is able to remain objective and logicalDoug's newfound mission in life and the impact it's having on hikersCommon themes from hikers sharing stories with DougThe dynamics of assessing risk toleranceThe impact culture has on decision makingDoug's new connection to the hiking communityAddressing emergency beaconsDoug's safety program for PCT hikers How to followup with DougTrevor Spikes Programhttps://nomadventures.com/product/trevor-spikes/ Doug's articles on Trevor's storyhttps://thetrek.co/pacific-crest-trail/trevors-eternal-trail/https://www.altaonline.com/dispatches/a34785167/accident-pacific-crest-trail-louise-farr/https://www.pcta.org/2021/doug-lahers-call-for-safety-in-memory-of-his-son-trevor-87656/Other podcast interviewshttps://backpackerradio.libsyn.com/73-dough-laher-and-riverside-mountain-rescue-unit-rmruhttps://www.hiking-thru.com/episodes/doug-laherhttps://trailtales.podbean.com/e/103-a-harrowing-reminder-of-what-can-go-wrong-on-the-pct-and-other-trails-with-doug-laher/

Ryan and Hillary Lampers are the husband and wife the team behind “Hunt, Harvest, Health,” a health and wellness company dedicated to promoting a healthy backcountry lifestyle. They offer everything from a Podcast, Nutrition Consultations, A Western Hunting Summit, and even natural supplements. Ryan and Hillary are passionate about helping others achieve a healthy lifestyle and have the experience and knowledge to do just that.On this episode of The By Land Podcast, I sit down with Ryan and Hillary to discuss the benefits of CBD for backpackers. This is, as we all know, resonably new territory for the majority of the population, but as I'm sure you've heard by now through the grapevine, CBD is a pretty incredible and NATURAL supplement you can use to battle a number of ailments, to include inflammation while on the trail. For my PCT hike in 2017, I popped Ibuprofin 3 times a day for 5 months straight and it worked, but I'm also not one to rely on medication for much and it bothered me that I was taking so much of it. This is why I wanted to learn about the benefits of CBD from Ryan and Hillary. We cover not JUST CBD, but how to achieve a healthy body AND mind. Hillary takes this episode by storm and deep dives into the science behind what is happening in our bodies so if you're looking to gain a better understanding of how everything works, this is the episode for you! Be sure to check out the links below to learn more about Hunt, Harvest, Health! By Land,Emory R. WangerBY LAND LINKSLEARN HOW TO BACKPACK https://byland.co/learn-how-to-backpackYOUTUBE https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChSSISEgIfwYz2cc0aHQj3gFACEBOOK GROUP https://www.facebook.com/groups/1192723304224313/INSTAGRAM https://www.instagram.com/byland.co DONATE AND SUPPORT: https://byland.co/donateDONATE AND SUPPORTSHOW NOTES AND LINKSCatching up with RyanGetting to know Hillary Lampers and her professional medical backgroundGetting to know Ryan and his backgroundAddressing inflammationHillary's thoughts on the junk food dietDeep diving inflammationThe state of our modern health and our unrelenting stressGetting into a “wild routine” Deep diving CBDCBD implementation scheduleStaying healthy in the longtermHow to followup with Ryan and HillaryHUNT, HARVEST, HEALTH HUNT, HARVEST, HEALTH Podcast Ryan's IG: https://www.instagram.com/sthealthyhunter/Hunt Harvest Health IG: https://www.instagram.com/huntharvesthealth/Hillary's IG: https://www.instagram.com/dochillary/Western Hunting SummitELEVATE HEALTH MT

“Hunting is Conservation” has become by far the most popular slogan in the hunting/conservation industry in the past few years. If you're a hunter, you're well acquainted with its meaning because literally any and all conservation organizations promote hunting as THE way to preserve and protect wild animals in modern times. But, what if hunting ISN'T conservation? I've personally never accepted the idea that hunting is the ONLY way to conserve an animal population, but I can accept that hunting is one of MANY ways to do so. Kevin Bixby is the Executive Director of the SW Environmental Center and recently published an article titled “Why Hunting Isn't Conservation and Why It Matters” and I asked him on the show for this episode to help me better understand what he means by this. By no means is this an anti-hunting article, in fact Kevin is a hunter himself and is the first to admit that hunting has played a key role in the preservation of American big game animals. That said, he feels the modern conservation model needs to change in a way that reflects the values of ALL those interested in the preservation of wildlife. If you're interested in reading the full article, you can find a link to this article in the show notes.I sincerely enjoyed picking Kevin's brain about the subject and I know that many hunters might fall out of their chairs just looking at the title of this episode, but I'd encourage those who have a vested interest in wildlife in North America, that they hear the message Kevin is putting out there and decide for yourself if you think the modern conservation model needs a facelift or not.Enjoy!By Land,Emory R. WangerDONATE AND SUPPORT THE SHOWBY LAND LINKS:DONATE AND SUPPORT THE SHOW: Donate HERE!LEARN HOW TO BACKPACK https://byland.co/learn-how-to-backpackYOUTUBE https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChSSISEgIfwYz2cc0aHQj3gFACEBOOK GROUP https://www.facebook.com/groups/1192723304224313/INSTAGRAM https://www.instagram.com/byland.co SHOW NOTES:IntroductionsKevin and his backgroundHow Kevin got into the political side of conservationScience versus value systemsThe rise of new value systemsAmerica's Wildlife Values SurveyThe changes in cultural valuesA short history of the modern wildlife conservation modelThe need to pivot to a modern conservation modelWhat's wrong with the “hunting is conservation” argumentHow state and federal wildlife agencies receive fundingThe impact of invasive speciesDoes industry impact conservation efforts?Game management as crop management The current imbalance of decision making The topic of wolves and predatorsThe future of hunting in modern timesThe “hunting is conservation” mantraWhat keeps Kevin going year after yearBorder walls and the impact of wildlife migrationHow to followup with Kevin and his workEPISODE LINKS:Kevin's Original Article: https://rewilding.org/hunting-isnt-conservation/America's Wildlife Values Survey: https://sites.warnercnr.colostate.edu/wildlifevalues/Southwest Environmental Center: https://www.wildmesquite.org/index.php/Contact Kevin: kevin@wildmesquite.org

Ben Crawford first appeared on the podcast for Episode 50, right after he and his family thru-hiked the Appalachian Trail in 2018. Since then, he's been working on writing a book about their family story and just recently published it for all to read and enjoy. I had the pleasure of having Ben on the podcast yet again to talk about the book, the writing process, and the experiences he had putting it together. If you're a family that enjoys the outdoors, or you one day WANT a family that enjoys the outdoors, I'd highly recommend exploring what Ben and his family are up to and how they approach parenting. And, if you're wanting to help support an awesome family, go buy the book (links below)!BOOK DESCRIPTION:Ben Crawford is an entrepreneur, author, and influencer who, along with his wife, Kami, and their six children, set the record in 2018 for the largest family and youngest female (7-year-old Filia Crawford) to thru-hike the Appalachian Trail. His greatest goal is to discover the full potential of the human family, and to empower people to find freedom by questioning the status quo. Ben's previous book, Unleash Your Family, details the Crawfords' approach to turning the chaos of quarantine life into structured creativity. On his YouTube channel, Fight For Together, Ben aims to challenge existing perspectives on marriage, family, parenting, and self-awareness--through everything from running ultramarathons with young children, to experimenting with authority by living a year with no rules. The Crawfords live just outside Cincinnati, where they are currently planning their next adventure. By Land,Emory R. WangerBY LAND LINKSLEARN HOW TO BACKPACK https://byland.co/learn-how-to-backpackYOUTUBE https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChSSISEgIfwYz2cc0aHQj3gFACEBOOK GROUP https://www.facebook.com/groups/1192723304224313/INSTAGRAM https://www.instagram.com/byland.co SHOW NOTES AND LINKSHow having a family can alter perspectivesPursuing things that shift perspectiveLife after the AT family Thru-Hike How the AT changed the family dynamicsWhy we're quick to forget the pain of an ordealWhy Ben wrote the book on hiking the ATReliving the trail through the writing processBen's low point on the trail On reading the kids' journal entries from the trailThe power of journalingDetails on the book variations How to find the book and support BenTHE BOOK: https://amzn.to/3lYbTW3YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCT2WgHiawhWgbahB0CNENkgIG: https://www.instagram.com/fightfortogether

Chris Cage quit a corporate job to travel and eventually hike the Appalachian Trail. When he was finally done, he had a choice to make. Either go back to corporate life or find a way to fund his new lifestyle. He chose the latter and founded Greenbelly Meals. Chris has had to make some big life-changing decisions that all came at a cost, but that's makes it an adventure. To risk the known for the unknown.On this episode, we get to know a little more about Chris Cage, Green Belly, and how he goes about managing risks. We also dive into entrepreneurship, his book on the AT, and a fun new social networking site for backpacking gear nerds called Packfire. By Land,Emory R. WangerBy Land LinksLEARN HOW TO BACKPACK https://byland.co/learn-how-to-backpackYOUTUBE https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChSSISEgIfwYz2cc0aHQj3gFACEBOOK GROUP https://www.facebook.com/groups/1192723304224313/INSTAGRAM https://www.instagram.com/byland.co SAY HELLO!! https://byland.co/contactShow Notes and LinksIntroduction to Greenbelly Backstory on Chris CageWhy Chris decided to hike the ATLife after the AT and deciding to create a food productDeciding to make BIG life changing decisions Why Chris started a business instead of continuing to travelHow Chris knew Greenbelly would be sustainableHow Chris self published his book on hiking the AT Deciding where to spend your time and energyThe backstory on Packfire and who it's for (ie fun!)What Greenbelly Meals offerBackstory on the name “Greenbelly”Final advice for those needing to make a big decision https://www.greenbelly.co/https://packfire.com/https://www.instagram.com/greenbellymealHow to Hike the Appalachian Trail: A Comprehensive Guide to Plan and Prepare for a Successful Thru-Hike

This past fall I launched my the LEARN HOW TO BACKPACK backpacking course for those out there who are just beginning to dip their toes into this whole backpacking hobby. I've mentioned it on the show before but wanted to take some time to talk about why I created it and who it's for.Since me telling you about a course isn't all THAT helpful, I've also included a few of the topics that I cover in the course. They are FINDING YOUR BACKPACKING STYLE, MANAGING EXPECTATIONS, AND MANAGING YOUR BODY. Each one of these I cover in the course so I thought I'd share them with you on this episode. With any luck, you'll come away from this episode with some actionable tips to take with you on your next trip to the backcountry!By Land,Emory R. WangerBy Land LinksLEARN HOW TO BACKPACK https://byland.co/learn-how-to-backpackYOUTUBE https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChSSISEgIfwYz2cc0aHQj3gFACEBOOK GROUP https://www.facebook.com/groups/1192723304224313/INSTAGRAM https://www.instagram.com/byland.coSAY HELLO!! https://byland.co/contactShow Notes and LinksOrigin of the backpacking course and why I made itWhat's in the courseWhy pay for the course?Finding YOUR backpacking styleManaging expectationsManaging the miles on the trailHow I manage my own selfWhy to avoid walking fastThe food and water formulaLEARN HOW TO BACKPACK https://byland.co/learn-how-to-backpack

Chad Lubinski messaged me a few years ago after my PCT hike asking questions about how to section hike various portions of the PCT through Oregon because he'd never really considered any sort of hiking or backpacking outside of the hunting season. Since that first interaction, Chad has dived headfirst into backpacking. In 2019 he battled his first big chunk of miles along the PCT and just one year later he completed his first-ever thru-hike of the John Muir Trail. That one single thru-hike that put him through the wringer forced him to adapt to the changing conditions of the trail and when he came out the other side, he had a brand new lease on backpacking. It was like a rocket ship to backcountry freedom because when he came home, he went to work pounding out the miles as often as he could down some of the best trails Oregon and Washington have to offer.In this episode, if the By Land Podcast, Chad shares his personal story, lessons learned, and what it's like to hit the backcountry with confidence.By Land,Emory R. WangerBy Land LinksLEARN HOW TO BACKPACK https://byland.co/learn-how-to-backpackYOUTUBE https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChSSISEgIfwYz2cc0aHQj3gFACEBOOK GROUP https://www.facebook.com/groups/1192723304224313/INSTAGRAM https://www.instagram.com/byland.coSAY HELLO!! https://byland.co/contactShow Notes and LinksIntroductionsChad's backgroundChad's transition from hunting to backpackingWhat caused Chad to begin section hikingExperiencing the hiking cultureObserving the efficiency of thru hikersHow efficiency can improve your enjoymentWhat changed between 2019 and 2020Chad's experience on the JMTNavigating the permit processPreparing for the JMTGetting punched in the face by the JMTLessons learned on the JMTLearning the rhythm of the mountainsThe powerful connection to others on the trailChad's takeaway from the JMTConfidence equals freedom in the backcountryHow to followup with Chad onlinehttps://hikertrashnation.com/https://www.instagram.com/chadahooche_/https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCK9Hz3X4LcG4fczA5vtz59Q

This episode of the By Land Podcast might get uncomfortable for hunters because I'm going to take a very hard and very uncomfortable look at the reality of what hunting culture actually is in 2020. This is not a topic that I take lightly. I've been sorting this out in my head for a long time now and thought it was time to put this out to listeners for them to consider as well.This episode is a sort of thought experiment. We'll dive into a number of questions regarding my own realities when it comes to hunting and what it is and isn't, explore a hypothetical question of how long it would take for hunting ethics to breakdown, and lastly what this means for hunting in the future if my assumptions are correct.This was not an easy episode to put together and I expect it will not be easy to listen to for some hunters out there who believe that their own version of hunting is the REAL version of hunting.I'll also dive into my concerns on whether or not echo chambers exist within minority factions of hunting communities and how that may be damaging to the future of hunting as a whole if left unaddressed.Episode 120 a loaded one and for those who decide to stick around, I hope it sparks conversation within your own small social circles so that we as a collective can begin to find solutions to the harsh reality of modern hunting culture.By Land,Emory R. WangerBy Land LinksLEARN HOW TO BACKPACK https://byland.co/learn-how-to-backpackYOUTUBE https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChSSISEgIfwYz2cc0aHQj3gFACEBOOK GROUP https://www.facebook.com/groups/1192723304224313/INSTAGRAM https://www.instagram.com/byland.coSAY HELLO!! https://byland.co/contactShow Notes and LinksIntroductionsThe questions I've asked myself about hunting cultureDefinition of “echo chamber”What is the reality of what hunting culture is?What is the future of hunting?How many hunters do the right thing?My experiences with others' bad ethicsWho's the real majority?Is “what hunting is and isn't” just a big echo chamber?My thought experiment on human natureChange comes from a desire to changeWhat is the future of hunting?What is the reality of hunting?What happens if hunting is voted out of existenceThe attempt of the industry to change the narrative of what hunting is and isn'tThe hunting narrative isn't workingAnalyzing the kill shotFinal thoughts

Mark Huelsing is a Dad, Husband, hunter, and just so happens to work at Exo Mountain Gear, however, on this episode of The By Land Podcast, we go in a bit of a different direction. No gear talk and no hunting stories (ok..maybe one). I've always appreciated Mark's insight that goes beyond the generic gear talk. Anytime I need an outside opinion on something, he's ready and willing to offer a thoughtful perspective.I reached out to Mark and asked if he'd want to come on the show to chat. He initially told me he probably didn't have anything important to talk about, but after shooting me a few things he'd been thinking about lately, we set a time and made it happen.This is NOT a gear episode. Instead, this is more of a conversation you'd have at the end of a long day on the trail or hunt while sitting around a campfire. We cover everything from why it's good for you to be bad at something, the feeling of needing to be productive with your time in the outdoors while also wanting to relax, and the realization that some of us might not ever be the worlds greatest hunter.If you're in the mood for a conversation that explores more than just gear and stories, this is the one for you. I'm incredibly grateful Mark was willing to open up about these topics and I'd encourage each of you listening to do the same. Ask yourself the hard questions and see what comes of it.By Land,Emory R. WangerBy Land LinksLEARN HOW TO BACKPACK https://byland.co/learn-how-to-backpackYOUTUBE https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChSSISEgIfwYz2cc0aHQj3gFACEBOOK GROUP https://www.facebook.com/groups/1192723304224313/INSTAGRAM https://www.instagram.com/byland.coSAY HELLO!! https://byland.co/contactShow Notes and LinksIntroduction to MarkWhere Mark gets his enjoyment from him early morning trainingThoughts on the crux of need to feel “productive” in the woods when away from familyHow hunting creates participation with natureThe contrast created by wanting to be relaxed in the field AND productiveLearning to allow your mind to run with it when you're in the fieldWhere Mark's outdoor story beginsThe benefits of sucking at somethingMarks conscious decision to NOT be an amazing hunter in favor of spending more time with family (and being okay with it)The desire to have story and process over resultThe “pressure” in the industry to outperform everyoneBeing honest about what you're willing to sacrifice forTaking advantage of opportunities when you have themHow to followup with Markhttps://exomtngear.com/https://exomtngear.com/pages/the-hunt-backcountry-podcast

Out of the blue in 2017 I realized I had been sitting on a pile of camouflage hunting gear that I only used once a year during the hunting season. The remainder of the year it sat in boxes gathering dust. Literally thousands of dollars worth of camo that I wasn't using and wouldn't use anytime outside of the hunting season.I concluded it was time to quit camouflage and swap those items out with solids in order to optimize my purchases. Since doing so, I haven't looked back.This episode is a spin off of the original article I wrote called “3 Reasons You Should Consider Quitting Camouflage.” It has since become my MOST popular article on the site so I figured I'd do a full episode going through the 3 reasons I think YOU should consider quitting camouflage as well.Enjoy!By Land,Emory R. WangerBy Land LinksLEARN HOW TO BACKPACK https://byland.co/learn-how-to-backpackYOUTUBE https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChSSISEgIfwYz2cc0aHQj3gFACEBOOK GROUP https://www.facebook.com/groups/1192723304224313/INSTAGRAM https://www.instagram.com/byland.coSAY HELLO!! https://byland.co/contactShow Notes and LinksEpisode introductionClearing the air and setting the stageHow I came to quit camouflageReason #1: Cost SavingsReason #2: Camo is more about marketing than camouflageHow we got into this camo fiasco in the first placeCamouflage as a marketing toolReason #3: More OptionsWhat and how deer and elk seeUltravioletHow to choose a camouflage patternFinal thoughtsThe original article with links: https://byland.co/blog/2017/12/11/3-reasons-you-should-consider-quitting-camouflageVisible Light Spectrum: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color

I've been on the hunt for a lightweight mountain rifle for a few years now and just recently learned of Bergara Rifles USA after a friend said I should check them out. I looked them up and reached out to learn more and the next thing I knew, I was on the phone with Tony Smotherman talking about the Bergara backstory. Since this is a backpacking podcast, I think we're due for an episode regarding a backpacking friendly mountain rifle. That's exactly what the Bergara Premier Series Mountain Rifle 2.0 is. It's light, durable, and comes in a number of popular hunting calibers.This episode might be focused on getting to know Bergara and what they do best, but I think it's more than that. Tony shares his personal story of how he got into the outdoors and I think it's something a lot of people can relate to.This is what I love about this podcast. I can cover something as simple as a backcountry rifle and the company that makes it while simultaneously driving home the idea that we all have something in common, regardless of where we are from and what we do in the backcountry.For those backcountry hunters out there listening, you'll FOR SURE want to check out Bergara after this episode. And for those non-hunters, I think you'll still enjoy the episode from the perspective of learning about other outdoor cultures.By Land,Emory R. WangerBy Land LinksLEARN HOW TO BACKPACK https://byland.co/learn-how-to-backpackYOUTUBE https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChSSISEgIfwYz2cc0aHQj3gFACEBOOK GROUP https://www.facebook.com/groups/1192723304224313/INSTAGRAM https://www.instagram.com/byland.coSAY HELLO!! https://byland.co/contactShow Notes and LinksIntroduction to Tony and Bergara FirearmsBackstory on Tony SmothermanHow and why Tony got into the outdoor industryLearning to chase your dreams and goalsGetting to know Bergara Firearms and their backstoryBergara's decision to build custom firearmsEmploying veteran gunsmithsThe team behind BergaraProduct line comparisonsThe importance of the weight of a rifleThe impact of rifle weightBenefits of carbon fiber rifle stocks (vs. wood)Choosing the right tools for the jobLearning not to sweat the small stuffHow to followup with Bergara Firearmshttps://www.bergara.online/us/https://www.bergara.online/us/rifles/premier/mountain-2-0-rifle/https://www.instagram.com/bergara_rifles/https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5_KVcmKS9L8VpFFCdCbO-g

Chris Niccolls has been reviewing cameras and camera systems on YouTube for years now. If the system exits, there's a pretty solid chance he's not only had his hands on it, but he's been able to run it through it's paces and created a video about it. This is what Chris does; he learns about the tech, the features, and the capabilities of the entire camera system as a whole so YOU, the viewer, can decide whether or not it's going to work for you or not.This is exactly why I wanted to talk to Chris. To hear from his perspective what is important in a camera system and how to choose one of your own for backcountry adventuring.If you're into photography or videography and you're searching for a system to call your own, this episode should no doubt help you on your search.By Land,Emory R. WangerBy Land LinksLEARN HOW TO BACKPACK https://byland.co/learn-to-backpackYOUTUBE https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChSSISEgIfwYz2cc0aHQj3gFACEBOOK GROUP https://www.facebook.com/groups/1192723304224313/INSTAGRAM https://www.instagram.com/byland.coSAY HELLO!! https://byland.co/contactShow Notes and LinksIntroductionsBackstory with ChrisDigesting the complicated nature of photographyPairing photography with technologyExciting trends in the camera industryHow to navigate the available camera choicesPros and cons of micro 4/3 systemsDialing in on a system that works for youEnjoyment over image qualityLearning to be specific on your use caseCamera carryThe Fuji X100V for backpacking and hikingThe thing about landscape photographersThe rise of hybrid shooting and what that meanshttps://www.dpreview.com/https://www.youtube.com/user/dpreviewcomhttps://www.instagram.com/dpreviewhttps://www.instagram.com/chris.niccollsbonus linkshttps://amzn.to/3j1KzF7

Karla Amador is the co-founder of the 52 Hike Challenge, an organization dedicated to encouraging adventure and getting people outside. On this episode we dive into Karla's personal backstory and how she came to create the 52 Hike Challenge as well as how to deal with the negative self talk that often happens when we're in the middle of a physical or mental challenge.Karla has a very relatable story that I think a lot of people can identify with and she's willing to share it openly with others so they can learn from her journey. She has a big heart and an encouraging spirit!Please enjoy this episode with Karla and thanks for tuning in!By Land,Emory R. WangerBy Land LinksLEARN HOW TO BACKPACK https://byland.co/learn-to-backpackYOUTUBE https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChSSISEgIfwYz2cc0aHQj3gFACEBOOK GROUP https://www.facebook.com/groups/1192723304224313/INSTAGRAM https://www.instagram.com/byland.coSAY HELLO!! https://byland.co/contactShow Notes and LinksIntroductionsOrigin story of the 52 Hike ChallengeHow hiking changed Carla's lifeWhy hiking was so beneficial to healing to KarlaExperiencing the John Muir TrailHow to deal with the struggleLessons learned from the JMTWhy 52 Hikes in a year?What you can get out of a 52 hike challengeTraining your mind to deal with challengesWhy we tend to go to the negative instead of the positiveWhat to make of the current COVID 19 pandemic and the energy surrounding itHow to followup with Karla and the 52 Hike Challengehttps://www.52hikechallenge.comhttps://www.instagram.com/52hikechallenge/https://twitter.com/52hikechallengeFun Linkshttps://www.americanbackcountry.com/store/national-parks-catalog/repreve-5/new-for-2020.htmlhttps://www.americanbackcountry.com/store/national-parks-catalog/repreve-5.html?limit=30

Aron Snyder is the President of Kifaru International, a household name and brand in the world of backcountry hunting. When I first heard of Aron, I was commuting to and from work an hour each way and spent a lot of that time learning as much as I could from his experiences via podcasting because at the time, I was beginning to get nice and cozy with the idea of backpack hunting. I needed as much information as possible and that's what I got along with a lot of entertainment.Aron has spent a lot of time in the field learning things that you can only learn IN THE FIELD. He's succeeded, failed, and succeeded again and, as you'll hear in this episode, it's the getting the reps in that count. Nothing is a substitute for miles and time in the backcountry because that's what ACTUALLY teaches you what you need to learn. Once that experience is gained, you'll look back and see that those spreadsheets you made detailing every single nut and bolt you carried with you are actually not so useful after all. You'll no longer care about how much an item weighs because you'll already know that information and you'll know HOW that item fits into your kit and WHY it's there in the first place.Backpacking will become second nature at some point and that's when the doors begin to open for you.This episode with Aron Snyder is littered with incredible insight from a guy who designs packs for a living, runs a backcountry hunting company, and has put a countless amount of hours in the field doing the hard work. When he speaks, listen closely and take he says and apply it to your own backcountry efforts.From getting to know where Aron came from and how he came to work for Kifaru to what ACTUALLY matters out there, it's all in this episode and you'll no doubt come away with some great nuggets of wisdom.By Land,Emory R. WangerBy Land LinksLEARN HOW TO BACKPACK https://byland.co/learn-to-backpackYOUTUBE https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChSSISEgIfwYz2cc0aHQj3gFACEBOOK GROUP https://www.facebook.com/groups/1192723304224313/INSTAGRAM https://www.instagram.com/byland.coSAY HELLO!! https://byland.co/contactShow Notes and LinksIntroductionsArons backstory and road to KifaruKifaru's product testing and revision processPatrick's background in the backpacking industryOn “chasing the lightweight rabbit”How to change your approach for different backpacking stylesDesigning for others, not yourselfAdapting for the situation you're headed intoThe approach to Kifaru designUn-complicating the backpacking processLearning how to backpack is a constantly evolving processLearn from your failuresShoot for the “happy medium” gearGear for the fun of it, and gear for the applicationDifferent gear for different missionsMore backcountry, fewer spreadsheetsHow to followup with Aron and Kifaruhttps://kifaru.net/https://www.instagram.com/kifaru_intl/https://www.facebook.com/kifaruinternational/https://www.youtube.com/Kifarutubehttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBSWT5C8eSDWrDiHETNO3_Qhttps://www.instagram.com/aron_snyderhttps://www.instagram.com/kifarucast

There is no “one size fits all” solution for backcountry footwear. The wall of shoes at your local outdoor store should be proof enough of that, but how in the world are you supposed to choose? It's a process, just like anything else, and that's exactly why Josh Kirchner is back on the show to share his journey with backcountry footwear.Josh is the voice behind Dialed In Hunter and a number of other great publications. He's put a lot of miles under his feet in the deserts of Arizona chasing wild critters and has learned a few things about what works and what doesn't FOR HIM when it comes to backcountry footwear. In this episode, we dive into a discussion on where to even begin finding the right boot or shoe and techniques on how to then massage the fit and feel to where it works for your foot.If you're struggling to figure out this whole footwear thing for backpacking, this is the episode you'll want to tune into!By Land,Emory R. WangerBy Land LinksLEARN HOW TO BACKPACK https://byland.co/learn-to-backpackYOUTUBE https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChSSISEgIfwYz2cc0aHQj3gFACEBOOK GROUP https://www.facebook.com/groups/1192723304224313/INSTAGRAM https://www.instagram.com/byland.coSAY HELLO!! https://byland.co/contactShow Notes and linksIntroductionsWhy footwear is SO importantJosh's journey to finding the right bootTroubleshooting fit issuesUnderstanding boot stylesWhat boot Josh uses todayThe importance of LeukotapeFinding footwear is a processFighting the desire to overdo itFootwear as toolsThoughts on socksAddressing “weak ankles”Trekking poles as an extension of footwearWalking techniques that help with foot problemsThe impact of lacing up a bootChoosing the right sockJosh's book “Becoming a Backpack Hunter”5 Tips For Choosing A Hunting BootBecoming a Backpack Hunterhttp://dialedinhunter.com/https://www.instagram.com/dialedinhunter/https://www.facebook.com/dialedinhunterhttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6ItIjVnltPYvPWohOPk0dQ?https://twitter.com/dialedinhunter

In this episode of The By Land Podcast, we're going to get to know Brad and Jason of Argali Outdoors. Together, they are the driving forces behind Argali, the incredible films being produced, and the “why” behind why Argali exists in the first place. Knowing “why” you do what you do is the one thing that you can look back on when making both personal and business decisions and it's pretty clear that Jason and Brad defined that first before doing anything else.Brad was on the show a while back talking about one if their films, but a few things have changed since then so I thought it would be great to have Argali back on to update everyone on what they're up to nowadays. We ended up have a great chat that to me is a great way to get to know who is behind Argali so you as a consumer and viewer have a better understanding of where they're coming from and where they're going.Please enjoy this chat with Brad and Jason!By Land,Emory R. WangerBy Land LinksLEARN HOW TO BACKPACK https://byland.co/learn-to-backpackYOUTUBE https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChSSISEgIfwYz2cc0aHQj3gFACEBOOK GROUP https://www.facebook.com/groups/1192723304224313/INSTAGRAM https://www.instagram.com/byland.coSAY HELLO!! https://byland.co/contactShow NotesIntroductionsGetting to know BradGetting to know JasonHow Brad and Jason linked upJason's background with filmThe early days learning to film a huntHow Argali came to beGrowing ArgaliThe importance of storytellingWhat's new with ArgaliThe importance of “why”Changes to video projectsArgali branded productsJason's thoughts on camera choices for backcountry filmmakingHow to follow up with ArgaliLinkshttps://argalioutdoors.com/https://www.instagram.com/argali_official/https://www.facebook.com/argaliofficial/https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCA_R_X4kk4P-ZUSrt2CXmng

I wouldn't change a single thing about my 2017 hike of the Pacific Crest Trail because what happened out there made it MY hike and I love it for what it was. That said, we can't help but reflect on the things we'd do differently and I like to think of it as learning valuable lessons rather than being unhappy with various aspects of my hike.I've had three years to digest my lessons learned and have come away with a short list of things I'd do differently if I had to do it all over again from scratch. Some are PCT specific, others are not. Even if you're not planning on hiking the PCT or any other long trail, I think you'll benefit from some of the items on my list.To those who ARE planning a hike sometime down the road, know this - you'll never be 100% ready and NOTHING will go as planned. You're going to make mistakes along the way, but as long as you learn from them then that's all that matters.By Land,Emory R. WangerBy Land LinksLEARN HOW TO BACKPACK https://byland.co/learn-to-backpackYOUTUBE https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChSSISEgIfwYz2cc0aHQj3gFACEBOOK GROUP https://www.facebook.com/groups/1192723304224313/INSTAGRAM https://www.instagram.com/byland.coSAY HELLO!! https://byland.co/contactShow NotesNOT hike with an Organization or sponsorHike alone moreSimplified layering systemHike in Altra Lone PeaksDitch my pack lidBring my nice cameraHike slower for longerSpend less time in townNo more resupply boxesGarmin InReach instead of SPOT trackerBring my WifeNot obsess about upcoming miles

Paul Medel has spent a lifetime learning as much as he can about elk. From the time he first heard a bugle on a tape as a young man, he knew he had to know more and that's what he set out to do. For over 20 years, Paul has been educating people on the ins and outs of how elk talk to each other and has helped countless hunters notch a tag during the fall hunting seasons.This episode isn't about hunting though. It's about Paul and his passion for elk and elk calling. Even if you don't hunt elk or know nothing about it at all, I think you'll have a hard time not smiling from ear to ear while you hear Paul talk about why he loves calling elk so much. His energy is contagious and his passion is deep.I believe it is good for us to learn as much as we can about the world around us. Even if you never blow through an elk call or hunt them in the fall, knowing what they sound like and what they mean when they make that sound puts you in a unique position to become PART OF THE WILDERNESS EXPERIENCE. Elk are incredible creatures and the sounds they make are even more incredible. By the end of this episode, you might actually find yourself wanting to try calling one in yourself even if only to take a closer look.Enjoy!By Land,Emory R. Wangerby land linksLEARN HOW TO BACKPACK https://byland.co/learn-to-backpackCOMIC BOOK https://byland.co/comic-bookYOUTUBE https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChSSISEgIfwYz2cc0aHQj3gFACEBOOK GROUP https://www.facebook.com/groups/1192723304224313/INSTAGRAM https://www.instagram.com/byland.coSAY HELLO!! https://byland.co/contactneed backpacking gear?2 FOOT ADVENTURES https://2footadventures.com/Show Notes and LinksIntroductionsPaul's background growing upThe early days of calling elkHow Paul learned about how elk communicateLearning to communicate back to elkHow communicating with elk has enhanced the wilderness experienceWhat happens when to a skill your intention changesWhat's so alluring about elk hunting?What keeps Paul going back for more each year?Pauls passion for the outdoorsWhat impacts calling responsesElk calling examplesHow to learn more about Paul and the Elk Nut Apphttp://www.elknut.com/https://apps.apple.com/us/app/elknut/id1231479425https://www.instagram.com/elknutoutdoorshttps://www.instagram.com/elknutapp

When my Wife and I first got pregnant, I was told by far too many people to count that our days hiking and wandering the woods would be brought to a screeching halt. Demoralizing is putting it lightly but lucky for me, my Wife and I were on the same page and determined to figure out how to pair hiking and backpacking with having kids.I've done a number of episodes prior to this one showcasing the experiences of others raising kids in the outdoors, but now that we have a solid year and a half under my belt, (yep, still a lot to learn) I thought I'd share what we've learned so far.By no means do we have it figured out. It's a learning process each time we go out, but I think for the most part we've done a great job and had really positive experiences. Heck, we even backpacked with our little girl when she was 9 months old!If you have kids or want to have kids, I think you'll find this episode pretty helpful and encouraging at the very least. If you don't have kids, it's still going to be helpful because you likely know someone who has them and is struggling to get them outside so now you'll be able to offer some tips and tricks.Enjoy!By Land,Emory R. WangerLEARN HOW TO BACKPACK!If you're new to backpacking and want to shorten the learning curve, I'm creating an ONLINE BACKPACKING COURSE that will get you going.The By Land Podcast Facebook GroupI have a facebook group specifically for listeners! See you in there!https://www.facebook.com/groups/1192723304224313/Show NotesWhen kids can ride in a kid carrierLongterrm thoughts on the Deuter Kid Comfort ProLayering up your babyWearing a kid carrierBring snacks!Backpacking with a kid and kid carrierDealing with the elementsMaking it a one person jobComfort for YOU is key!Final ThoughtsLinksSummit Strength 28 Day Challenge: https://www.summitstrength.com.au/28-day.html2 Foot Adventures Ultralight Backpacking Gear Shop: https://2footadventures.com/LEARN HOW TO BACKPACK https://byland.co/learn-to-backpack

Dan Solsman found himself caught up in the rat race of collecting more gear rather than more knowledge. Each year would bring new gear that marketing told him he had to have in order to be successful. Realizing it he was on a never ending cycle of chasing the latest and greatest, he decided to stop the bus, get off, and begin chasing down more knowledge rather than more gear.We often thing new gear or better gear is going to make up for our lack of skills, dedication, and training, but all it does is put a dent in our wallets and leave us wanting something more.On this episode, Dan shares his thoughts on how he went from gathering gear to gathering knowledge and what's happened since making the shift.By Land,Emory R. WangerLEARN HOW TO BACKPACK!If you're new to backpacking and want to shorten the learning curve, I'm creating an ONLINE BACKPACKING COURSE that will get you going.The By Land Podcast Facebook GroupI have a Facebook group specifically for listeners! See you in there!https://www.facebook.com/groups/1192723304224313/Need gear? Try 2 Foot Adventures!2 Foot Adventures specializes in ultralight backpacking gear that will get you up the trail efficiently with everything you need. If you're on the search for great gear, check them out!Show NotesIntroductionsDan's philosophy on collecting gear instead of skillsHow streamlining your gear enhances the experienceDan's decision NOT to wear camouflageOn how to be selective with gearOn working on your weaknessesLearning to be patientwhat you need versus what you think you needHow challenges can recalibrate your mindWe all start somewhereClosing thoughtsLinkshttps://www.instagram.com/dansolsman/

The Coronavirus is impacting the dreams and aspirations of a LOT of thru hikers so I wanted to take a few minutes to talk about how those impacted can cope with it. I also dive into backcountry decision making and why it's such an important skill to have.Even if you're not thru hiking this year, there are some concepts in this episode I think you may be able to apply to your own hikes and adventures.By Land,Emory R. WangerLEARN HOW TO BACKPACK!I'm creating an ONLINE BACKPACKING COURSE that will shorten your learning curve in more than half and get you going on the right path to a backcountry adventure.The By Land Podcast Facebook GroupI have a facebook group specifically for listeners! See you in there!https://www.facebook.com/groups/1192723304224313/Show NotesIntroductionThoughts for hikers who are missing their hikeThoughts for hikers who CAN hike but wonder if they SHOULD hikeThoughts on backcountry decision makingLinksYouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChSSISEgIfwYz2cc0aHQj3gBy Land Podcast Facebook Group https://www.facebook.com/groups/1192723304224313/Instagram https://www.instagram.com/byland.coLEARN HOW TO BACKPACK https://byland.co/learn-to-backpack

Backpacking alone is NOT the easiest thing in the world to do. In fact, it can be downright uncomfortable or even scary at first, but if you're willing to put in the work, being alone in the backcountry can be pretty darn incredible. On this episode of The By Land Podcast, I'm going to share with you what I've learned about backpacking and hiking alone and give you some tips and tricks on how you can get there yourself.I won't just cover HOW to backpack alone, but WHY you'd want to so in the first place, and what my personal journey has been (successes and failures).Wherever you're at in your backpacking journey, this episode will help you go from always having to hike in a group or with a partner, to embarking on an adventure by yourself.By Land,Emory R. WangerLEARN HOW TO BACKPACK!I'm creating an ONLINE BACKPACKING COURSE that will shorten your learning curve in more than half and get you going on the right path to a backcountry adventure.The By Land Podcast Facebook GroupI have a facebook group specifically for listeners! See you in there!https://www.facebook.com/groups/1192723304224313/Show NotesWhy you would want to backpack aloneBenefits of backpacking aloneMy personal journey learning to backpack aloneHow my failures prepared me for success being aloneMy first time really hiking alone for some distanceA turning point in being alone on the PCT8 Tips on how how to backpack, hike, and hunt alone1. Warm up in small stages2. Camp ALONE in a group3. Do backpacking things BY YOURSELF4. Go somewhere familar and don't make it a big trip5. Distract your mind from the silence6. Choose a great camping location7. Tire yourself out!8. Bring what makes you feel safeFinal thoughtsLinksYouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChSSISEgIfwYz2cc0aHQj3gBy Land Podcast Facebook Group https://www.facebook.com/groups/1192723304224313/Instagram https://www.instagram.com/byland.coLEARN HOW TO BACKPACK https://byland.co/learn-to-backpack

The Eco Defense Group is a non-profit organization whose mission is to help train and equip personnel on the front lines of the poaching war in Africa. On this episode, the President of EDGE,Nathan Edmondson, joins me to talk about the organization, what they do to fight poaching of African game animals, and what we can do to help.By Land,Emory R. WangerLEARN HOW TO BACKPACK!I'm creating an ONLINE BACKPACKING COURSE that will shorten your learning curve in more than half and get you going on the right path to a backcountry adventure.The By Land Podcast Facebook GroupI have a Facebook group specifically for listeners! See you there!https://www.facebook.com/groups/1192723304224313/Show NotesIntroductionsNathan's background and how he got involvedWhere the passion for African animals came fromThe story behind EDGE and what they doUnderstanding the “value” of animals throughout the worldWhat it's like telling the story of what's happening in AfricaExperiencing AfricaHow you can help fight poaching in AfricaHow to followup with EDGELinkshttps://ecodefensegroup.org/https://www.instagram.com/ecodefensegrouphttp://www.facebook.com/ecodefensegrouphttps://twitter.com/ecodefensegroup

I never thought in a million years I'd ever be one to hike 20-30 miles in a single day. Those numbers are daunting if you've never done it and having felt the pain that can come from a 10 mile day I figured doubling or tripling that number was a feat I'd never be able to do. As it turns out, I CAN do big miles because I put into practice a specific process that works for me.On this episode, I'm going to dive in to my process for hiking big miles. From start to finish, I'll walk you through my approach and even cove the benefits of hiking so many miles in a single day.If you dream of hiking a long trail or want to pack in more miles, more views, and more experiences into your weekend trips, this episode is for you!By Land,Emory R. WangerLEARN HOW TO BACKPACK!I'm creating an ONLINE BACKPACKING COURSE that will shorten your learning curve in more than half and get you going on the right path to a backcountry adventure.The By Land Podcast Facebook GroupI have a facebook group specifically for listeners! See you in there!https://www.facebook.com/groups/1192723304224313/Show NotesDefining what a “big” day isBenefits to hiking bigger milesMy step by step process for hiking big milesEfficiencySpeed versus timeHike in intervals and take scheduled breaksFeed your body (https://www.v2pnutrition.com/)Reducing pack weightSelf careProper planningClosing thoughtsLinksYouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChSSISEgIfwYz2cc0aHQj3gBy Land Podcast Facebook Group https://www.facebook.com/groups/1192723304224313/Instagram https://www.instagram.com/byland.coLEARN HOW TO BACKPACK https://byland.co/learn-to-backpack