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Is Agile still relevant in today’s fast-paced world? Brian and Joshua Kerievsky reveal the four game-changing principles of Modern Agile that prioritize safety, empowerment, and continuous value delivery. Overview In this episode, Brian Milner sits down with Joshua Kerievsky, a pioneer in the Agile community and the creator of Modern Agile. They discuss how Agile practices have evolved, the critical role of safety and empowerment, and how to deliver value continuously in today’s fast-paced world. Don’t miss these insights into creating better teams, products, and results through simplicity and experimentation. References and resources mentioned in the show: Joshua Kerievsky Industrial Logic Joy of Agility by Joshua Kerievsky Modern Agile #33 Mob Programming with Woody Zuill #51: The Secrets of Team Safety with Julie Chickering Badass: Making Users Awesome by Kathy Sierra The Power of Habit by Charles Duhigg The Lean Startup by Eric Ries Experimentation Matter: Unlocking the Potential of New Technologies for Innovation by Stefan H. Thomke Agile For Leaders Mike Cohn’s Better User Stories Course Accurate Agile Planning Course Join the Agile Mentors Community Subscribe to the Agile Mentors Podcast Want to get involved? This show is designed for you, and we’d love your input. Enjoyed what you heard today? Please leave a rating and a review. It really helps, and we read every single one. Got an Agile subject you’d like us to discuss or a question that needs an answer? Share your thoughts with us at podcast@mountaingoatsoftware.com This episode’s presenters are: Brian Milner is SVP of coaching and training at Mountain Goat Software. He's passionate about making a difference in people's day-to-day work, influenced by his own experience of transitioning to Scrum and seeing improvements in work/life balance, honesty, respect, and the quality of work. Joshua Kerievsky is the founder and CEO of Industrial Logic and author of Joy of Agility. An early pioneer of Extreme Programming, Lean Software Development, and Lean Startup, Joshua is passionate about helping people achieve genuine agility through principle-based approaches like Modern Agile. Auto-generated Transcript: Brian (00:00) Welcome in Agile Mentors. We're back. And this is another episode of the Agile Mentors podcast. I'm here as I always am. I am Brian Milner and today I am joined by Joshua Kerievsky and really excited to have Joshua here with us. Welcome in Joshua. Joshua Kerievsky (00:16) Thank you so much, Brian. Happy to be here. Brian (00:19) Very excited for Joshua to be here. Joshua's been around for a while. He's been doing this for a long time. He said, you know, when we were talking before, and he's been involved with Agile before, it was called Agile. And, you know, that probably tells you all you need to know there. But a couple other things here about him, just so that you kind of can place him a little bit. His company is Industrial Logic, Inc. and he's the CEO and founder of that company. He has a book called Joy of Agility that's out there that I highly recommend. It's a really great book. And he's also closely associated with something that maybe you've been aware of, maybe you've heard of, maybe you haven't, but something called Modern Agile. And that's what I thought we'd focus on here for our discussion is really to try to understand a little bit about it. especially for those of you, maybe you haven't heard of it, haven't been around it before. So... Why don't we start there, Joshua? Tell us a little bit about what was the need that was trying to be filled with something like modern Agile. Joshua Kerievsky (01:19) Well, it goes back to a conference I attended in Prague back in around 2015. And I was giving a speech, a keynote speech there, and that ended. And then I went and said, well, I'm going to go join the OpenSpace. And I was just looking at what people were talking about at the OpenSpace. And at that point in time, I had already been experimenting with a ton of stuff that just kind of different from what we had been doing 10 years earlier or even later than that. I mean, just this was new things that we were doing, whether it was continuous deployment or ideas from lean startup or ideas from the pop and dykes and lean concepts applied to agility or just a lot of things that were just different. And none of the sessions I was seeing in the open space seemed to be talking about any of that stuff, like giving up story points or moving away from sprints until continuous flow. just nothing was being talked about. So I just said, well, I'm going to host a session, and I'll call it, I don't know, a modern Agile. And so that's as far as I got in terms of thinking about the name. I just wanted to run a session where we could talk about, there's a lot of new things we're doing that kind of display some of the older ideas. And they're very useful, I found. So the session ended up getting a lot of attention. 60, 70 people showed up there. So we had a big group. And it was well received. People were fascinated by the stuff that they weren't aware of. And so I then repeated this open space event in Berkeley. Like a month later, was Agile Open Door Cal in Berkeley was running and did it again. And again, there was tremendous interest. in this, so much so that I decided to write a blog and wrote the blog and started getting more conversations happening. And that sort of began the movement of describing this thing called Modern Agile. And it took a few twists and turns in the beginning, but it wasn't sort of, I guess, if anything, I felt like Agile needed to be a little more simple. in terms of what we were explaining, because it was starting to get very complex with frameworks, enterprise frameworks coming along like safe and just too many moving parts. And so what ended up happening is I wrote some things and people started to notice, there's kind of like four things there that are really valuable. One of them was The names changed a little bit over time. But anyway, what ended up was four principles emerged. And that really became modern Agile. Brian (03:58) That's awesome. just for listeners here, I've pitched attending conferences in the past. If you've listened to this podcast, you've heard me say that, and I'll create things come out of that. And here's an example, right? This is something that was open space discussion. Open space, if you're not familiar with that, at conferences, can, if there's an open space day or a couple of days, then anyone can present any topic they want. And whoever shows up is who shows up. And this one got a lot of attention. And a movement grew from this open space topic, which is awesome. So let's talk. You mentioned there's four principles here. And I like the distinction here we're making also between the frameworks and the practices versus the cultural aspects or the philosophy behind it. And returning to those roots a little bit more from what Agile originally was. So you mentioned there's kind of four areas of this. Let's walk our way through those. I know the first one, or one of the first ones here is make people awesome. So help us understand, what do you mean by make people awesome? Joshua Kerievsky (04:59) Probably the most controversial of principles, because you'll get people coming along saying, wait a minute, people are already awesome. What are you talking about? And it comes from my, I'm a big fan of Kathy Sierra. And her blog was incredible. And her book, she wrote a book called Badass, Making Users Awesome. And in her book, she was really wonderfully clear about Brian (05:07) You Joshua Kerievsky (05:24) that teams that build products ought to focus on the user of the products more than the product itself. In other words, she would say, don't try to create the world's best camera. Try to create the world's best photographers. Big subtle difference there. Like that is focusing so much on empowering the users, making them awesome at their work or whatever they're doing, whether it's art or accounting or whatever, whatever your product does, how can you give them something that elevates their skills, that gets them to a point of awesomeness faster? And that's what she was talking about. So I thought, what a wonderful message. And initially, I used language like make users awesome. you know, having been an entrepreneur myself and created products and sold them and You learn a heck of a lot when you make your own product. And we've made several products over the years at Industrial Logic, probably the most successful of which was our e-learning software. And that has taught me so many, so many lessons. One of them is you have to serve an ecosystem of people. You can't just make your main user awesome. What about the person who's buying the software? How do you make them awesome in terms of helping them buy something that's going to get used? If they buy your e-learning and they never use it, they've wasted a lot of money. So we've got to make sure that their reputation is intact because they made an excellent investment and it got used and it got into valuable, it created value in the company. So how do I make the buyer awesome? How do I make the person that like rolls out the licenses to people awesome? How do I make their experience awesome? How do I make my colleagues awesome so that we love what we're doing and really enjoy working together? So it kind of morphed from make users awesome to make people awesome. And it's so expanded. If anything, we set the bar higher. And all of the principles of modern agile are like unachievable. They're all kind of high bars, right? But they're the goal that we go towards. So that really is it. It's about creating Brian (07:23) Ha Joshua Kerievsky (07:35) you know, wonderful, you know, the in Great Britain, they use awesome kind of sarcastically sometimes, right? They'll say, well, that's awesome. You know, and so for them, it would be brilliant. You know, I thought of making an English version. We have many translations of modern agile, and I thought of making an English version, which would be a proper British English version, make people brilliant. But it's meant to be to empower folks to give them something. And it's so it is. Brian (07:43) Ha You Joshua Kerievsky (08:04) It does have a product focus in the sense of we're typically building a system or a product that someone's going to use and it's going to give them skills they didn't have before or abilities they didn't have before that are going to be very valuable. Brian (08:18) Yeah, I love that. And there's a sort of a servant nature to that servant leaders, not servant leadership as much, but servant nature of I'm serving these people and how do I, how do I serve them in a way that really empowers them? Kind of reminds me of like, you know, the, the great principle with, with dev ops of just, know, if I can, if I can empower the developers to be able to do these things on their own. And so they don't need someone else to come and check the box and do everything for them. You're making them awesome. You're empowering them to be more than they were otherwise. Joshua Kerievsky (08:54) Yes, yes, absolutely. I I think we've seen a history in the software field of a lot of tools coming along and helping. It's not just tools, it's also methods as well. I mean, I'm entirely grateful to the Agile software development movement because it helped nudge everything towards a far better way of working and to make us more awesome at our craft. yeah, you have to have a North Star though. If you're going to build something, You have to know, what are we going for here? What are we shooting for? And with Cathy's influence, again, it's not so much make the greatest product in the world. It's, that focus on the users, the people who are going to be using the work, using the product. Brian (09:34) That's really good. Let's talk about the second one then on my list here, the make safety a prerequisite. What was the point here behind this principle? Joshua Kerievsky (09:40) Yes. So starting probably around 2011 or so, I could not stand going to the Agile Conference anymore. It had just become too commercial and too filled with just people hocking stuff. And it just was bothering me too much. I couldn't go. So I ended up going to South by Southwest, which is an Brian (09:54) You Joshua Kerievsky (10:09) Enormous conference tens of thousands of people show up So it'd be 20,000 30,000 40,000 people showing up for these for this event, which is musical film technology just it's just wild and I came across this book by Charles Duhigg called the power of habit. He was there that year and In that book. Well, first of all that particular year was 2012 that I went my first year there it poured The rain, it was every day, it was unusual for that time, but it was just like pouring rain. So what could you do? I bought some books and I was sitting there in my room reading them. And I'm reading this book, The Power of Habit, and I come across this chapter called The Ballad of Paul O'Neill. Now who the heck's Paul O'Neill? Well, it turns out Paul O'Neill is this incredible guy, a complete business maverick. He ended up becoming the treasury secretary under Bush and not. in 2000 for a short period of time, but that's another story. And he ran Alcoa for about 13 or 14 years. And so the Ballot of Paul O'Neill is very much about what he did at Alcoa to turn the company around. And in essence, you could say he made safety a prerequisite. That safety was his guiding light in turning that company around, which meant left people empowered to do all kinds of things. So it went way beyond safety, but started there. And it's an incredible story. I've written about it in Joy of Agility. I got so into Paul O'Neill that I ended up interviewing his main lieutenant. And then I got a chance to interview him a couple of times. the man's a genius. He passed away a few years back. Absolute genius. this concept of safety started to really pull at me in the sense that I felt, first of all, extreme programming, and I'm a big practitioner of extreme programming, brings a tremendous amount of safety to software development. It may not be as explicit in saying safety, safety, safety. When you look at extreme programming, doesn't really talk about safety, but it's implicit. And these days, Kent Beck's much more vocal about, you One of his missions is to make software development safer for geeks. But safety to me is almost like I found my home. Like safety was something that, what I learned through Paul O'Neill was that it's a doorway to excellence. And he transformed a hundred year old company with safety. I would complain about companies we were working with that were 25 years old and had an embedded culture. Like, how are we gonna change this company? But safety started to be this thing that I hadn't really thought enough about, and making it explicit opened up a lot of doors, right? And I became very interested in the work of Amy Edmondson, who's extremely famous today, but back then she was not so famous. And huge fan of hers. I, you know, I can email her and she'll email me back and she wrote a nice thing about my book. So. She has done some incredible work there. And so when we talk about safety in modern agile, it's psychological safety. It's financial safety. It's any of the safeties. There are many safeties that we could talk about. And it looks at all of them, right? It's brand safety, software safety in terms of security. you know, of the software and on and on and on. So make safety prerequisite is vast and big in terms of what we're trying to do there. Making it a prerequisite means it's not an afterthought and it's not a priority that shifts with the winds. It is permanent. It is something that we know we have to have in place. And it's very, very hard to achieve. Just like make people awesome is hard to achieve. Boy, is make safety a prerequisite difficult. Brian (13:43) Hmm. Yeah, I love Amy Edmondson's work as well. I'm just kind of curious. does the safety kind of inclusive of things like quality as well? Do you intend that to be part of what you mean by safety? Joshua Kerievsky (14:11) Well, mean, to the extent that it makes it safer to do good software development. So if bugs are happening all the time, you can't make people awesome, typically if you don't have quality. If you have really poor quality, nobody's being made awesome. They're experiencing all kinds of problems with your product. So make people awesome and make safety a prerequisite are very much tied together. That is, there is no real excellence without safety. You could think you're having an excellent experience, so that all of a sudden there's a major problem, and boy, are you unhappy. So they really go hand in hand. You could have the most incredible restaurant, and then one day you've got food poisoning happening. Great, no one's come to your restaurant. So you will not make anyone awesome if you don't make safety a prerequisite, and quality is part of that. Brian (14:57) Awesome. Well, let's move on to the next one then, because the next category is one that just resonates with me a lot. Experiment and learn rapidly. What was kind of the thought behind this one? Joshua Kerievsky (15:06) Yeah, and this is one where it that's shorthand, if you will, because you can only fit so many words on a wheel there. But it's important to know that that really means experiment rapidly and learn rapidly. And that comes a lot out of it in the influences of something like Lean Startup. I'm a huge fan of that book and of Eric's work, Eric Reese's work. Brian (15:13) Ha Joshua Kerievsky (15:29) And the fact that we can experiment rapidly and learn rapidly rather than just building everything and then learning slowly. Right? How can we do cheap experiments quickly to decide what's important to work on and what isn't? Let's not build stuff nobody wants. Let's find more time with our customers and understand their needs better so we can build the right things that make them awesome. In other words, and a lot of these are interconnected. In many respects, modern Agile is a Venn diagram. ideally want all four principles to be overlapping. And right there in that middle is where you really want to be. Not easy. But experimenting, learning rapidly, yeah. So challenge yourself to find ways to do quick, cheap, useful experiments. You can do lot of unuseful experiments. Amazon experienced that. There's a story in my book about how Amazon had to start just shepherding the experiments a little more and having some better criteria. Because you could do an endless array of experiments and not get anywhere. There's a wonderful book called Experimentation Matters by a Harvard business professor. Wonderful book as well. But I love experimentation and learning. And I see it as critical to building great products. So that's that principle there. Brian (16:46) Yeah, there's a real difference, I think, in organizations that put value on that learning process. if you see it as a valuable thing, that we invest time to gain knowledge, then that really can truly make an impact when you go forward. I know I've talked about this in classes sometimes where people will say, isn't it a little bit selfish from the organization to try to always just figure out what's going to sell the best? or what's going to work the best in advance of putting something out. My response is always, well, yes, there is a benefit to the business, but there's a benefit to the customer as well because they would rather you work on things that they care more about. Joshua Kerievsky (17:24) That's right. Yeah. I mean, we once put out an experimental product to a large automotive company. And we were really excited about it. We had a whole list of features we wanted to add to it. But we were like, you know what? Let's just get this primitive version kind of in their hands just to see what happens. it turned out that we learned very rapidly that they couldn't run the software at all. There was some proxy. that was preventing communication with our servers from their environment. So it was like, excellent. We learned really quickly that instead of those fancy new features we want to add to this thing, we're going to fix the proxy problem. And to me, that's the nature of evolutionary design is that we create something, get it out there quickly, and learn from it rapidly and evolve it. So it goes hand in hand with that as well. Brian (18:11) That's awesome. Well, there's one category left then, and that is deliver value continuously. So what was the genesis of that? Thinking about delivering value continuously. Joshua Kerievsky (18:19) So that was heavily influenced by my own journey into continuous delivery and continuous deployment and that whole world. We got into that very early. I was lucky enough to catch a video by Timothy Fritz, who he worked with Eric at IMBU. And he coined the term continuous deployment. And that video is actually no longer on the Brian (18:43) Ha Joshua Kerievsky (18:44) But this was something that I became enamored of was doing continuous deployment. And we started doing it at Industrial Logic with our own e-learning software back in about 2010. And by the time you get to like 2015, it's like, hey folks, there's this thing where you can do a little bit of work and ship it immediately to production in a very safe way, a safe deployment pipeline. It's friggin' awesome. But the principle doesn't just apply to that because this modern agile is not just about software development. It's how can I work in a way that gets value in front of people as fast as possible? So for example, if I'm working on a proposal, great, I'm not going to work for two weeks and then show you something. I'm going to put something together, a skeleton, I'm going to show it to you and say, what do you think? Does this add value? Where would we improve this? Blah, blah, Again, going hand in hand with evolutionary design. continuous delivery of value is something that is a way of working. With artists that I work with, they'll do a quick sketch or two or three sketches of something first before we start settling in on which one do we like the best and how do we want to craft and refine that. So there's a way of working in which you're delivering value much more finely grained and approaching continuously instead of in bigger batches. Brian (20:05) Yeah. I love the connection there between artists as well, because I've got a background in music, and I'm thinking about how when you go to write a song or create a new work like that, you start off with the roughest of demo tapes, and you move from there to increasingly more sophisticated versions of it until you finally have the finished product. But no one thinks that's strange or thinks that's weird in any way. But you're right. Sometimes there's this attitude or kind of I think in some organizations of, we can't let anyone see that until it's absolutely finished, until it's done. Joshua Kerievsky (20:39) Yeah, yeah, and that maybe that's that there's some fear there, you know, because they don't want to be thought of as, you know, being lesser because they put something rough in front of someone. Whereas I view it as a, you know, to me, it's a sign of weakness when you when you only send something polished because you haven't had the courage or the sense of safety to put something rough where we can make better decisions together early on. So. There's a lot of learning, I think, around that. But it's a challenging principle of its own, deliver value continuously. And people would say, well, what does value mean? Value is one of those words where it's unclear, because you could improve the internal design of a software system. Is that value? It probably is. But you've got to be able to quantify it or prove that it's going to help make things more graceful in terms of flowing features out. yeah, quantifying, communicating what the value is. is important. I'm also a big fan of maximizing the amount of work not done, as it says in the manifesto. So how can we do less and deliver more sooner? Our motto in industrial logic now is better software sooner. And a lot of these principles go straight into that. that drives it. Brian (21:38) Yeah. That's really great. Yeah, I love these four principles and I think that they really represent a lot. There's a lot that's baked into each one of these things. And I'm sure as you kind of put this together with the community and started to talk more about it, I'm sure there were some challenges. I'm sure people came up to you and said, well, what about and how about this? Is there anything now looking back on this that you'd say, gosh, we really... really didn't quite cover this or, know, this is maybe I could fudge it and squeeze it in this area, but you know, there's this other thing that I really think would be important to kind of mention here as well. Joshua Kerievsky (22:28) Well, you know, it's funny, because I thought I was going to write a book. I started collecting stories. I love telling stories, and I find stories to be a great way to help educate people. Not the only way, right? But as part of some of the workshops I give, you tell a story. Hopefully it's a story that's sticky, that sticks in the person's brain. And over the years, I collected stories like that, stories of agility. I thought I'd be writing a book about modern agile when I started writing Joy of Agility. Gradually, as I wrote more and more stories, they didn't quite fit into all those four principles. And I think the lesson I learned there was that I was starting to talk about what pure Agile means, the word Agile. What does it really mean to be Agile? Whereas modern Agile is really almost in the context of product development, of building services or products for people. Whereas Agile itself is even more pure. And so the... the book itself got into the difference between quickness and hurrying, which you can relate to this. You could say experiment and learn rapidly. Well, OK, maybe we shouldn't rush it. Don't rush. Be quick, but don't hurry is one of the mantras in Joy of Agility. So adapting, right? Adapting, we talk about adapting all the time. So to be agile, you need to be able to adapt quickly. These four principles in modern agile don't say anything about adapting. Brian (23:46) Ha Joshua Kerievsky (23:48) So that's kind of implied, but it's not there. So it's a different lens on agility. If anything, I'd say the make people awesome principles are not meant to. It created some dislike, I'd say, from some people. It could have been called empower people, potentially, although a lot of people really love make people awesome. I don't know so much what I'd change there. I'd say we have a .org. So it's a modernagile.org is a website. There's a pretty large Slack community, which, know, four or 5,000 people on that. We don't certify anyone in modern agile, so there's no certifications, but it's something that is neutral in the sense that whether you practice Scrum or Kanban or Safe or whatever, these principles can influence you. And, you know, but again, this all came out of like, when I went to that open space conference in Prague, I had no idea I was going to talk about modern agile. You know, it was not like a predetermined thing. It was just like, my God, they're not talking about the modern ways we're doing stuff. So, and I always encourage people to, you know, keep pushing the limits and keep modernizing. I said to my own company the other day, our wonderful ways of working that we've been doing now for years that have evolved, they're probably antiquated as of today. You know, with generative AI, what would we do differently? Let's have a perspective on our own work as it needs to be modernized constantly. So the term modern in modern agile means always be modernizing, always be looking. Okay, I've had people say, well, Josh, some things don't need to be modernized. There's things that are just evergreen. They're classic. I'm like, absolutely. I'm not changing evolutionary design anytime soon. I find it to be quite useful in so many contexts. So yes, there's the evergreen stuff. And then there's the stuff where you can, indeed, discover a better way. The manifesto itself says, we are discovering better ways of working. Great. Keep that going. Keep modernizing and looking for easier, simpler, quick, easy grace. as the dictionary definition of Agile says, how can we work with quick, easy grace? That's always going to be improving, hopefully. Brian (26:12) Love that, yeah. And you're right, I mean, think there's some, to some people I think that there's, I guess at times an attitude of, you this is all new stuff or this is a brand new concept and something they don't really see the connection backwards in time to how these things are all built on other ideas that have been progressive over the years. So the idea of, yeah, this is, you know, we're, we're not saying that certain ideas are bad because now we're trying to modernize them. We're just saying we're trying to apply that same principle forward into kind of the context of today, which I don't see anyone should have a problem with that. Joshua Kerievsky (26:48) That's right. That's right. Well, and if you are experimenting and learning rapidly with your own process, which I highly encourage, chances are the way you work today will be different than it was yesterday. You will be exploring, like we use discovery trees today. We didn't use them before. Years ago, no one knew what a story map was. There wasn't such a thing as a story map. Now we have story maps. There's constant improvement happening. And you've got to be open-minded and willing to try new things and drop old stuff. We thought sprints and iterations and extreme programming was absolutely fundamentally part of the way to work. Then we started experimenting with dropping them and turned out, wow, this is pretty cool. We like this. It works pretty darn well for our purposes. That came through experimentation. some of our experiments were terrible, just terrible. It's not an experiment if you already know the outcome. keep pushing the limits of what can make you happier and more joyful at work in terms of producing great stuff. Brian (27:46) Awesome. That's great stuff. Well, I can't thank you enough for coming on, Joshua. This is great stuff. just, you know, we'll put all the links to the books mentioned and everything else in our show notes for everybody. But as Joshua said, you can go to modernagile.org and find out more about this if you'd like to. You'll find information there about Joshua himself or his company again is Industrial Logic, Inc. And, you know, his book again, just to mention that, Joy of Agility. We were talking how some people get that title a little mixed up or whatever, but it's just the three words, joy of agility. So just look out for that book. I think you'll find it a rich resource for you. Joshua, thanks so much for coming on. Joshua Kerievsky (28:25) Thank you, Brian. Thanks to you. Thanks to Mountain Goat and the folks there. And I really appreciate chatting with you. It was really wonderful.

Joshua Kerievsky is the founder and CEO of Industrial Logic, and someone who's been shaking up the world of agile for years. He's the creator of Modern Agile, which is all about making work better for people by focusing on four key principles: make people awesome, delivering value continuously, make safety a prerequisite, experiment and learning rapidly.  In this episode, we talk about Joshua's latest book, Joy of Agility. It's not your typical how-to manual—it's packed with inspiring stories and practical insights that show agility as a mindset, not just a framework. The six mantras of Joy of Agility are:  Be quick but dont hurry Be balanced and graceful Be poised to adapt Start minimal and eveolve Drive out fear Be readily resourceful Joshua has a knack for making agility feel approachable, joyful, and deeply human. Whether you're leading a team or just curious about finding better ways to work, this conversation is sure to spark some fresh ideas. This is the full English version of the earlier published interview with Joshua that had an indtroduction in Swedish.   

En intervju med Joshua Kerievsky, grundare av Industrial Logic, pappa till Modern agile och författare till flera böcker om agila arbetssätt, nu den senaste Joy of Agility, som det här samtalet handlar om. Jag ger lite bakgrund till Modern Agile och Joy of Agility här, så blir samtalet enklare att följa med i. Modern Agile är en ambition att ta agila principer till en nivå som är tillämpbar på alla typer av branscher. Den består av fyra principer och här finns även illustrationen över dessa: Modern Agile 4 principer Hjälp människor att briljera Leverera värde löpande Skapa trygga förutsättningar Experimentera och lär dig snabbt   Boken Joy of Agilty kokar ner agila arbetssätt till 6 mantran. Dessa ser du i sin helhet här. I samtalet pratar vi endast om några av dem.  6 mantran från Joy of Agility Be quick but dont hurry Be balanced and graceful Be poised to adapt Start minimal and eveolve Drive out fear Be readily resourceful   Hålltider: 0:38 Inbjudan till workshop, se även tealpodden.se/workshop 1:52 Introduktion till Joshuas verk Modern Agile och Joy of Agility 3:35 start på intervjun   Joshua nämner böckerna Kathyt Sierra - Badass. Making Users Awesome Harry Beckwith - Selling the Invisible och Coachen John Wooden. Hoppas du gillar avsnittet! 

In this podcast Shane Hastie, Lead Editor for Culture & Methods spoke to Tim Ottinger from Industrial Logic about ensemble programming, technical excellence and the future of programming. Read a transcript of this interview: https://bit.ly/4aLr0vS Subscribe to the Software Architects' Newsletter [monthly]: www.infoq.com/software-architect…mpaign=architectnl Upcoming Events: QCon London qconlondon.com/ April 8-10, 2024 Follow InfoQ: - Mastodon: techhub.social/@infoq - Twitter: twitter.com/InfoQ - LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/infoq - Facebook: bit.ly/2jmlyG8 - Instagram: @infoqdotcom - Youtube: www.youtube.com/infoq Write for InfoQ - Join a community of experts. - Increase your visibility. - Grow your career. www.infoq.com/write-for-infoq/

In this episode of Product Thinking: Joshua Keievsky, Founder and CEO of Industrial Logic, joins Melissa Perri to discuss the evolution of Agility in business. Josh talks through his fantastic new book ‘The Joy of Agility' and the six mantras he's identified in the implementation of Agile working into business strategy, and the case studies he discovered and learned from along the way.

In this episode of Partnering Leadership, Mahan Tavakoli explores the concept of agility with his guest, Joshua Kerievsky, CEO of Industrial Logic and author of Joy of Agility: How to Solve Problems and Succeed Sooner. They discuss why agility is far more than speed and how leaders can hone the mindset and skillset of agility. Joshua Kerievsky provides a crisp definition of agility and shares why it highlights how agility is crucial in all aspects of business and life. He also shares balanced ways leaders can enable experimentation and learning without the hurry and pressure that leads to mistakes. Through sharing his agility mantras and powerful examples, Joshua Kerievsky makes agility accessible and practical for leaders across organizations.Actionable Takeaways:Hear how agility applies across industries and all of life. Learn the true meaning of agility beyond just speed.Understand balanced ways to experiment and adapt quickly.  Discover how to drive out toxic fear hindering your team.Master mantras like "Be quick, don't hurry" for business and life.Find out how psychological safety enables prudent risk-taking.Learn how Amazon's culture empowered an intern to override an executive.Appreciate the role leaders play in enabling organizational agility.Recommended ResourcesThe Joy of Agility by Joshua Kerievsky Testing Business Ideas by David J. Bland Connect with Joshua Kerievsky The Joy of Agility WebsiteIndustrial Logic Website Joshua Kerievksy LinkedInConnect with Mahan Tavakoli: Mahan Tavakoli Website Mahan Tavakoli on LinkedIn Partnering Leadership Website

This is the fourth series of Agile Framework Fight night. This fight night was hosted in Seattle by Beyond Agile. Like the first Agile Framework Fight Night, we brought together another winning panel of experts to represent the frameworks of DA, Fast Agile, LeSS, and SaFE. Agile Framework Fight Night, the THIRD series happened at Beyond Agile, transmitted from Seattle. You can find Beyond Agile at Meetup.com here: https://www.meetup.com/BeyondAgile/ The expert panelists are: Ricardo “Dad of Doom” Garcia stomping toes for Team DA This “Dad of Doom” has over 30 years of industry experience and has implemented and managed numerous software projects using Agile Practices for Fortune 500 companies. His work has been featured in white papers, cover stories in magazines, and is a frequent speaker at conferences and Agile expert panels. He is the organizer behind Seattle Disciplined Agile Meetup: https://www.meetup.com/Seattle-Disciplined-Agile-Meetup/ Page "Paginator" Watson knocks heads for team FAST Agile This technical coach works for Industrial Logic. Page worked with Ron Quartel at Premier Blue Cross that used FAST Agile. https://www.linkedin.com/in/paige-is-xp/ Richard Hundhauson is Scrum Hausen vilifying the opponent for team Nexus Richard works is a Scrum devops trainer and is a co-creator of Nexus. https://www.linkedin.com/in/rhundhausen/ Barry Smith, aka Barry the Blizzard wrestles for team SAFE Is a member of Unify's Lean-Agile practice, and committed to helping product teams to enjoy a better way of working and delivering exceptional value to their customers. His over 25+ years of working in technology has shown him that innovation can be fostered anywhere, from startups to Fortune 500 firms. Lancer “Unkind” Kind, moderating a lucha libre lifestyle “Unkind” lives in Kirkland, and loves nothing more than writing micro tested software. For the last five years he has delivered consulting services in China, India, as well as the USA. He's a publishing author of science fiction and Agile Noir, a project management business novel. He's podcasting at Agile Thoughts, 敏捷理念 (the Chinese edition of Agile Thoughts), and SciFi Thoughts. His Agile at scale business novel is “continuously delivered” via Lean Pub at: https://leanpub.com/AgileGrande Here is a link to this Beyond Agile event in Meetup which contains comments about the fight night: https://www.meetup.com/beyondagile/events/286465281/ Other Agile Framework Fight Night Bouts You can listen to the first, second, and third Bouts of Agile Framework Fight Night series here: https://agilenoir.biz/en/agilethoughts/agile-framework-fight-night/ Interested in learning Agile? Kartar Petal starts a new job as a project manager of a waterfall project that's failing. But the biggest problem is that his LIFE is on the line if he doesn't deliver on time. His best chance of survival is to listen to a hindu godman who has decided to coach Kartar in becoming Agile. But will it be enough to save Kartar from being killed? Agile Noir teaches the following through dramatic story telling: Agile Manifesto and it's meaningUser StoriesPoker Planningservant leadershipScrum roles: Scrum Master, PO, and team.negotiating a win-win with stakeholdersScrum of Scrums Available in India, USA, and China from the following sellers: ACM (Association of Computing Machines): ACM BookstoreUSA: Amazon.comIndia: Pothi.comChina (Mandarin edition): WeChat store

This is the fourth series of Agile Framework Fight night. This fight night was hosted in Seattle by Beyond Agile. Like the first Agile Framework Fight Night, we brought together another winning panel of experts to represent the frameworks of DA, Fast Agile, LeSS, and SaFE. Agile Framework Fight Night, the THIRD series happened at Beyond Agile, transmitted from Seattle. You can find Beyond Agile at Meetup.com here: https://www.meetup.com/BeyondAgile/ The expert panelists are: Ricardo “Dad of Doom” Garcia stomping toes for Team DA This “Dad of Doom” has over 30 years of industry experience and has implemented and managed numerous software projects using Agile Practices for Fortune 500 companies. His work has been featured in white papers, cover stories in magazines, and is a frequent speaker at conferences and Agile expert panels. He is the organizer behind Seattle Disciplined Agile Meetup: https://www.meetup.com/Seattle-Disciplined-Agile-Meetup/ Page "Paginator" Watson knocks heads for team FAST Agile This technical coach works for Industrial Logic. Page worked with Ron Quartel at Premier Blue Cross that used FAST Agile. https://www.linkedin.com/in/paige-is-xp/ Richard Hundhauson is Scrum Hausen vilifying the opponent for team Nexus Richard works is a Scrum devops trainer and is a co-creator of Nexus. https://www.linkedin.com/in/rhundhausen/ Barry Smith, aka Barry the Blizzard wrestles for team SAFE Is a member of Unify's Lean-Agile practice, and committed to helping product teams to enjoy a better way of working and delivering exceptional value to their customers. His over 25+ years of working in technology has shown him that innovation can be fostered anywhere, from startups to Fortune 500 firms. Lancer “Unkind” Kind, moderating a lucha libre lifestyle “Unkind” lives in Kirkland, and loves nothing more than writing micro tested software. For the last five years he has delivered consulting services in China, India, as well as the USA. He's a publishing author of science fiction and Agile Noir, a project management business novel. He's podcasting at Agile Thoughts, 敏捷理念 (the Chinese edition of Agile Thoughts), and SciFi Thoughts. His Agile at scale business novel is “continuously delivered” via Lean Pub at: https://leanpub.com/AgileGrande Here is a link to this Beyond Agile event in Meetup which contains comments about the fight night: https://www.meetup.com/beyondagile/events/286465281/ Other Agile Framework Fight Night Bouts You can listen to the first, second, and third Bouts of Agile Framework Fight Night series here: https://agilenoir.biz/en/agilethoughts/agile-framework-fight-night/ Interested in learning Agile? Kartar Petal starts a new job as a project manager of a waterfall project that's failing. But the biggest problem is that his LIFE is on the line if he doesn't deliver on time. His best chance of survival is to listen to a hindu godman who has decided to coach Kartar in becoming Agile. But will it be enough to save Kartar from being killed? Agile Noir teaches the following through dramatic story telling: Agile Manifesto and it's meaningUser StoriesPoker Planningservant leadershipScrum roles: Scrum Master, PO, and team.negotiating a win-win with stakeholdersScrum of Scrums Available in India, USA, and China from the following sellers: ACM (Association of Computing Machines): ACM BookstoreUSA: Amazon.comIndia: Pothi.comChina (Mandarin edition): WeChat store

This is the fourth series of Agile Framework Fight night. This fight night was hosted in Seattle by Beyond Agile. Like the first Agile Framework Fight Night, we brought together another winning panel of experts to represent the frameworks of DA, Fast Agile, LeSS, and SaFE. Agile Framework Fight Night, the THIRD series happened at Beyond Agile, transmitted from Seattle. You can find Beyond Agile at Meetup.com here: https://www.meetup.com/BeyondAgile/ The expert panelists are: Ricardo “Dad of Doom” Garcia stomping toes for Team DA This “Dad of Doom” has over 30 years of industry experience and has implemented and managed numerous software projects using Agile Practices for Fortune 500 companies. His work has been featured in white papers, cover stories in magazines, and is a frequent speaker at conferences and Agile expert panels. He is the organizer behind Seattle Disciplined Agile Meetup: https://www.meetup.com/Seattle-Disciplined-Agile-Meetup/ Page "Paginator" Watson knocks heads for team FAST Agile This technical coach works for Industrial Logic. Page worked with Ron Quartel at Premier Blue Cross that used FAST Agile. https://www.linkedin.com/in/paige-is-xp/ Richard Hundhauson is Scrum Hausen vilifying the opponent for team Nexus Richard works is a Scrum devops trainer and is a co-creator of Nexus. https://www.linkedin.com/in/rhundhausen/ Barry Smith, aka Barry the Blizzard wrestles for team SAFE Is a member of Unify's Lean-Agile practice, and committed to helping product teams to enjoy a better way of working and delivering exceptional value to their customers. His over 25+ years of working in technology has shown him that innovation can be fostered anywhere, from startups to Fortune 500 firms. Lancer “Unkind” Kind, moderating a lucha libre lifestyle “Unkind” lives in Kirkland, and loves nothing more than writing micro tested software. For the last five years he has delivered consulting services in China, India, as well as the USA. He's a publishing author of science fiction and Agile Noir, a project management business novel. He's podcasting at Agile Thoughts, 敏捷理念 (the Chinese edition of Agile Thoughts), and SciFi Thoughts. His Agile at scale business novel is “continuously delivered” via Lean Pub at: https://leanpub.com/AgileGrande Here is a link to this Beyond Agile event in Meetup which contains comments about the fight night: https://www.meetup.com/beyondagile/events/286465281/ Other Agile Framework Fight Night Bouts You can listen to the first, second, and third Bouts of Agile Framework Fight Night series here: https://agilenoir.biz/en/agilethoughts/agile-framework-fight-night/

This is the fourth series of Agile Framework Fight night.  This fight night was hosted in Seattle by Beyond Agile.  Like the first Agile Framework Fight Night, we brought together another winning panel of experts to represent the frameworks of DA, Fast Agile, LeSS, and SaFE.  Agile Framework Fight Night, the THIRD series happened at Beyond Agile, transmitted from Seattle.  You can find Beyond Agile at Meetup.com here: https://www.meetup.com/BeyondAgile/ The expert panelists are: Ricardo “Dad of Doom” Garcia stomping toes for Team DA This “Dad of Doom” has over 30 years of industry experience and has implemented and managed numerous software projects using Agile Practices for Fortune 500 companies. His work has been featured in white papers, cover stories in magazines, and is a frequent speaker at conferences and Agile expert panels. He is the organizer behind Seattle Disciplined Agile Meetup: https://www.meetup.com/Seattle-Disciplined-Agile-Meetup/ Page "Paginator" Watson knocks heads for team FAST Agile This technical coach works for Industrial Logic. Page worked with Ron Quartel at Premier Blue Cross that used FAST Agile. https://www.linkedin.com/in/paige-is-xp/ Richard Hundhauson is Scrum Hausen vilifying the opponent for team Nexus Richard works is a Scrum devops trainer and is a co-creator of Nexus. https://www.linkedin.com/in/rhundhausen/ Barry Smith, aka Barry the Blizzard wrestles for team SAFE Is a member of Unify's Lean-Agile practice, and committed to helping product teams to enjoy a better way of working and delivering exceptional value to their customers. His over 25+ years of working in technology has shown him that innovation can be fostered anywhere, from startups to Fortune 500 firms. Lancer “Unkind” Kind, moderating a lucha libre lifestyle “Unkind” lives in Kirkland, and loves nothing more than writing micro tested software. For the last five years he has delivered consulting services in China, India, as well as the USA. He's a publishing author of science fiction and Agile Noir, a project management business novel. He's podcasting at Agile Thoughts, 敏捷理念 (the Chinese edition of Agile Thoughts), and SciFi Thoughts. His Agile at scale business novel is “continuously delivered” via Lean Pub at: https://leanpub.com/AgileGrande Here is a link to this Beyond Agile event in Meetup which contains comments about the fight night: https://www.meetup.com/beyondagile/events/286465281/ Other Agile Framework Fight Night Bouts You can listen to the first, second, and third Bouts of Agile Framework Fight Night series here: https://agilenoir.biz/en/agilethoughts/agile-framework-fight-night/

This is the fourth series of Agile Framework Fight night. This fight night was hosted in Seattle by Beyond Agile. Like the first Agile Framework Fight Night, we brought together another winning panel of experts to represent the frameworks of DA, Fast Agile, LeSS, and SaFE. Agile Framework Fight Night, the THIRD series happened at Beyond Agile, transmitted from Seattle. You can find Beyond Agile at Meetup.com here: https://www.meetup.com/BeyondAgile/ The expert panelists are: Ricardo “Dad of Doom” Garcia stomping toes for Team DA This “Dad of Doom” has over 30 years of industry experience and has implemented and managed numerous software projects using Agile Practices for Fortune 500 companies. His work has been featured in white papers, cover stories in magazines, and is a frequent speaker at conferences and Agile expert panels. He is the organizer behind Seattle Disciplined Agile Meetup: https://www.meetup.com/Seattle-Disciplined-Agile-Meetup/ Page "Paginator" Watson knocks heads for team FAST Agile This technical coach works for Industrial Logic. Page worked with Ron Quartel at Premier Blue Cross that used FAST Agile. https://www.linkedin.com/in/paige-is-xp/ Richard Hundhauson is Scrum Hausen vilifying the opponent for team Nexus Richard works is a Scrum devops trainer and is a co-creator of Nexus. https://www.linkedin.com/in/rhundhausen/ Barry Smith, aka Barry the Blizzard wrestles for team SAFE Is a member of Unify's Lean-Agile practice, and committed to helping product teams to enjoy a better way of working and delivering exceptional value to their customers. His over 25+ years of working in technology has shown him that innovation can be fostered anywhere, from startups to Fortune 500 firms. Lancer “Unkind” Kind, moderating a lucha libre lifestyle “Unkind” lives in Kirkland, and loves nothing more than writing micro tested software. For the last five years he has delivered consulting services in China, India, as well as the USA. He's a publishing author of science fiction and Agile Noir, a project management business novel. He's podcasting at Agile Thoughts, 敏捷理念 (the Chinese edition of Agile Thoughts), and SciFi Thoughts. His Agile at scale business novel is “continuously delivered” via Lean Pub at: https://leanpub.com/AgileGrande Here is a link to this Beyond Agile event in Meetup which contains comments about the fight night: https://www.meetup.com/beyondagile/events/286465281/ Other Agile Framework Fight Night Bouts You can listen to the first, second, and third Bouts of Agile Framework Fight Night series here: https://agilenoir.biz/en/agilethoughts/agile-framework-fight-night/

CEO of Industrial Logic, author of Joy of Agility Episode page with video, links, transcript and more Joining us for Episode #475 of the Lean Blog Interviews Podcast is Joshua Kerievsky, the founder and CEO of Industrial Logic, one of the oldest and most well-respected agile consultancies on the planet.  Since 1996, Joshua and his global network of colleagues have helped people in teams across many industries leverage the wisdom and power of modern product development methods. An early pioneer and practitioner of Extreme Programming, Lean Software Development and Lean Startup, Joshua most recently crafted “Modern Agile” to help people and organizations benefit from a principle-based approach to agility. Joshua is passionate about helping people produce awesome outcomes via genuine agility. He is an international speaker and author of books including most recently, Joy of Agility: How to Solve Problems and Succeed Sooner. In today's episode, we discuss how “agility” doesn't strictly mean “Agile” in software. How was Joshua inspired by leaders including former Alcoa CEO Paul O'Neill? What can all kinds of organizations learn about the art of evaluating experiments in ways that lead to more improvement and greater innovation? Questions, Notes, and Highlights: What's your “origin story” when it comes to these methods? Agile is an adjective… “ready ability to move with quick, easy, grace” — resourceful and adaptable It's not just about speed, but also quality? Do you recall when you were first introduced to “Lean” — was it via “Lean Startup” early days? The Industrial Logic name? “Process” sounds bad? Why is that? Toyota – enabling bureaucracy vs. limiting bureaucracy SAFE experiments Paul O'Neill admiration – safety  2012 The Power of Habit book What does safety mean in software? The risk of mistakes — expensive $$ decision… small tests of change??? The art of evaluating experiments? Keep going? Pivot or persevere? For those who don't know, what's “agile” vs. what you describe as “agility”? This is NOT a book about software development Driving out fear like Deming? The podcast is sponsored by Stiles Associates, now in its 30th year of business. They are the go-to Lean recruiting firm serving the manufacturing, private equity, and healthcare industries. Learn more. This podcast is part of the #LeanCommunicators network. 

As we move through 2023, the pace of disruption continues to intensify. The complexities and implications of the economic and technological landscapes are overwhelming. It is increasingly difficult to break out of short-term thinking and make the long-term strategic decisions that are now needed. Over the last few years, the word agile has been somewhat overused, but does it hold the key to unlocking the future potential of talent acquisition? My guest this week is Joshua Kerievsky, Founder and CEO of Industrial Logic and author of a new book called "The Joy of Agile". In our conversation, Joshua revisits the original definition of agile and shares six mantras to help all TA leaders during these challenging times. In the interview, we discuss: The dictionary definition of agile Working with quick, easy grace Examples of agile at work How to be more agile Being adaptable and resourceful Be quick but don't hurry. The importance of balance and driving out fear Start minimal and evolve. Adaptability The new future of work Listen to this podcast in Apple Podcasts.

As we move through 2023, the pace of disruption continues to intensify. The complexities and implications of the economic and technological landscapes are overwhelming. It is increasingly difficult to break out of short-term thinking and make the long-term strategic decisions that are now needed. Over the last few years, the word agile has been somewhat overused, but does it hold the key to unlocking the future potential of talent acquisition? My guest this week is Joshua Kerievsky, Founder and CEO of Industrial Logic and author of a new book called "The Joy of Agile". In our conversation, Joshua revisits the original definition of agile and shares six mantras to help all TA leaders during these challenging times. In the interview, we discuss: The dictionary definition of agile Working with quick, easy grace Examples of agile at work How to be more agile Being adaptable and resourceful Be quick but don't hurry. The importance of balance and driving out fear Start minimal and evolve. Adaptability The new future of work Listen to this podcast in Apple Podcasts.

As we move through 2023, the pace of disruption continues to intensify. The complexities and implications of the economic and technological landscapes are overwhelming. It is increasingly difficult to break out of short-term thinking and make the long-term strategic decisions that are now needed. Over the last few years, the word agile has been somewhat overused, but does it hold the key to unlocking the future potential of talent acquisition? My guest this week is Joshua Kerievsky, Founder and CEO of Industrial Logic and author of a new book called "The Joy of Agile". In our conversation, Joshua revisits the original definition of agile and shares six mantras to help all TA leaders during these challenging times. In the interview, we discuss: The dictionary definition of agile Working with quick, easy grace Examples of agile at work How to be more agile Being adaptable and resourceful Be quick but don't hurry. The importance of balance and driving out fear Start minimal and evolve. Adaptability The new future of work Listen to this podcast in Apple Podcasts.

In this episode, Randy and Bethany are back to discuss channel partners and building a career in tech sales. In order to sell more and make more money, companies should consider using channel partners. Channel partners have their own relationships and can provide advice and guidance to companies. Bethany also discussed her advice for people aspiring to get into executive leadership. Learn more in this latest episode of Tech Sales Insights. INSIGHTS OF THE DAYBETHANY: SOLIDIFY YOUR NETWORKING“So you really got to do your networking. And even if you just you know, have a cup of coffee with people and do a zoom session, just connect as much as possible and tell people what you're looking for. Again, they don't know if you don't tell them.”BETHANY: STAY IN TOUCH WITH HEADHUNTERS“Probably sometime at some point in your career, you've been contacted by a headhunter. My advice is you make friends with those people, you know who they are, right, and you go back to them in times that are tough because those are the folks who also can help you.” Don't miss out on the previous episode/s and watch out for the new ones!E106 Part 1 - BOXED UP: Bethany Mayer's Board Insights On Box Stock PerformanceE106 Part 2 - WOMEN'S RALLY: Exploring the Opportunity for Women in Sales with Bethany Mayer Find out more about Bethany in the links below:Bethany Mayer | Box | Box.com Send in a voice message to us:Sales Community at Anchor.fm This episode of Tech Sales Insights is brought to you by: Sales Community | OpenSymmetry

Jon and I share some memories before we dive into his history. Jon is one of those mellow friendly persons who will just wait for you to start asking questions. And once you do, be ready for the wealth of knowledge and detail you will get as a response.Jon also wrote a book on iOS unit testing. Nowadays Jon works at Industrial Logic and by how he describes it, Jon has found his tribe.Quality CodingiOS Unit Testing by Example: XCTest Tips and Techniques Using Swift by Jon ReidExtreme Programming RoadmapJon Reid on Industrial LogicApprovalTests for Swift, an alternative to assertions on GitHub QCoding - TwitchLive TDD in Swift (Survey Analyzer) - YouTubeThe workshop Jon and I were doing at the start of the pandemicPlease rate me on Apple Podcasts.Send me feedback on SpeakPipeOr contact me through twitterNewsletter, sign up!My book: Being a Lead Software DeveloperRunwayPut your mobile releases on autopilot and keep the whole team in sync throughout. Lead Software Developer Learn best practices for being a great lead software developer.Support the show (https://pod.fan/appforce1)

Read the full Show Notes and search through the world's largest audio library on Scrum directly on the Scrum Master Toolbox Podcast website: http://bit.ly/SMTP_ShowNotes. About Joshua Kerievsky Joshua founded his company (Industrial Logic) from his studio apartment in NYC in 1996. It began as a lifestyle company, which meant he was able to pursue his craft while helping clients. He gradually grew the company and today they help organizations around the world. Joshua is also an international speaker and is regularly invited to speak and visit many conferences. You can link with Joshua Kerievsky on LinkedIn and connect with Joshua Kerievsky on Twitter.  Here you can find Joshua's company, Industrial Logic, and their blog. For more on the Joy of Agility, check out the book's website.

I recently had a fascinating conversation with Matthew Carlson, a senior consultant at Industrial Logic. We talked about what is different about adopting agile methods in 2021 vs. 2001… and how those differences play out for the people who work in organizations and those who hope to help them adopt agile methods.  Join me and special guest Matthew Carlson for a rich conversation about considering context and respecting the structures and pressures that shape the adoption of not-so-new-innovations.   Read more about Matthew here: https://www.industriallogic.com/people/matthew/

Imagine if your team is functioning as a single unit. In this ideal state, your teammates are invested in one another's success. They share both their successes and failures with each other, openly and with trust. They welcome others' input and criticism. They listen to new ideas, even if they're outside their comfort zone.It's a nice thought – a team that truly works together towards a shared goal, where each member feels safe enough to take risks and explore their path without being judged or put down by others. But how do you create this kind of team? The good news is that psychological safety can be learned by feeling safe enough to take risks and be vulnerable. Join Tara Swanson from Industrial Logic, Inc. and me to discuss the factors that may be holding teams back from developing psychological safety.Check out https://www.schmidt-list.com for more show infoWant to learn more about my company? https://www.foundrymakes.com/Questions about the equipment used in this video? https://kit.co/KRTS/schmidt-list-live-streaming-kitFollow us on all the things!https://twitter.com/Schmidt_Listhttps://www.instagram.com/schmidtlistpodcast/https://www.facebook.com/schmidtlist/

Neste episódio eu conversei com Alexandre Freire que é Cientista da Computação pela USP e Diretor de Engenharia do Nubank, que é atualmente uma das maiores startups de capital fechado da America Latina e simplesmente o maior banco digital do mundo, recentemente o Nubank anunciou quase estava com 25 milhões de clientes em sua base.Nós conversamos sobre o inicio da sua carreira, como foi crescer numa casa onde a Mãe e Pai são físicos e seu irmão também acabou se tornando. Como foi para na Italia e trabalhar por quase dois anos como engenheiro de software e depois voltou para concluir sua graduação e mestrado na USP. Depois se tornou head de produtos SaaS da Locaweb, passou pela consultoria Industrial Logic, que é uma das boutiques mais reconhecidas no mercado, tendo trabalhado com empresas referências como Netflix, Facebook e Google e depois caiu de cabeça no Nubank e hoje é um dos principais executivos de tecnologia da empresa.Também falamos mundo sobre o universo ágil, sobre cultura, sobre pessoas, fica ligado que esse episódio foi especial!

Episode 44 of the Modern Agile Show features an interview with Jeff “Cheezy” Morgan, a veteran agilist, lean practitioner, DevOps leader and co-founder of Industrial Logic Canada. Jeff describes the fabulous Lean/DevOps transformation he's led with teams in a conservative Canadian bank. The teams used to only do 4-5 deployments per year. They now do 4-5 deployments per day! The teams used Scrum and had many QA people to help test software. Through Cheezy's work, they eliminated all QA staff, got rid of all ScrumMasters and switched to a lightweight, Kanban approach. Cheezy describes the agility of his teams as they've had to release emergency features related to the Canadian government's response to COVID-19. Allowing individuals who badly need money to survive during the crises to use a direct deposit service, rather than waiting for a check in the mail, is an example of a feature that Cheezy's teams were able to get into production within 2-3 days of getting the requirements. This Lean/DevOps work has dramatically reduced the time from Concept to Cash, a particularly important metric during a pandemic. The improvements have also allowed the business to perform hundreds of feature experiments in production, gather data from those experiments and make better decisions about what will most help users. Cheezy discusses how risky traditional deployment is for most organizations and how modern practices reduce so much of the risk. Cheezy describes the technical safety his teams have put in place to allow for safe, continuous delivery of value to production. Finally, Cheezy describes how he's been educating remote technical teams via effective, online training, with the help of Industrial Logic's Agile eLearning.

Richard Kasperowski interviews Joshua Kerievsky. Joshua is the creator and steward of the Modern Agile movement, CEO of Industrial Logic, and the author of the award-winning book, Refactoring to Patterns. He tells us the story of how he grew Industrial Logic from a single-person company into a global team of experts. A little tip – he first turned it into an exciting duo! When you finish listening to the episode, connect with Joshua on Twitter at https://twitter.com/joshuakerievsky and LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshuakerievsky/. Read the full transcript at kasperowski.com/podcast-35-joshua-kerievsky/

In this episode, we share more insights from Joshua Kerievsky's appearance on the Agile Online Meetup. The session was entitled, "Are you Quick?". He talks about how we need to be quick but, not hasty. The value delivery is important at a high speed. Joshua Kerievsky is the CEO of Industrial Logic. https://www.industriallogic.com/ https://twitter.com/JoshuaKerievsky https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshuakerievsky/ --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/tom-henricksen/support

In this episode, we share some insights from Joshua Kerievsky appearance on the Agile Online Meetup. The session was entitled, "Are you Quick?". He talks about how we need to be quick but, not hasty. The value delivery is important at a high speed. Joshua Kerievsky is the CEO of Industrial Logic. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/tom-henricksen/support

In this episode, Cecil Williams discusses being a Software Delivery Coach. From his days in the Nuclear industry to a Software Delivery Coach Cecil shares his experience. He currently works with Industrial Logic. Connect with Cecil on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/cecilgwilliams --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/tom-henricksen/support

Craig and Tony are at YOW! Conference in Brisbane and catch up with Joshua Kerievsky, CEO of Industrial Logic and founder of Modern Agile and they talk about: Episode 20: Lean Start-ups with Joshua Kerievsky Industrial Logic and the Extreme Programming Playing Cards If you are a consulting company and don’t have your hands dirty … Continue reading →

Episode 34 of the Modern Agile Show features an interview with Wil Pannell, a self-taught programmer, agile/lean practitioner and in-demand coach at Industrial Logic. Wil is a scholar who is constantly improving his skills in technology and process. He is passionate about improving racial diversity in tech. Joshua and Wil discuss Wil's journey to agile engineering practices, the future of agile education and the urgency for more diversity in tech.

> Sign Up For Our Newsletter: http://www.firsthuman.com/being-human-newsletter/In this week's episode of Being Human I interview Joshua Kerievsky, the originator of Modern Agile and CEO of leading agile training and coaching group Industrial Logic. With occassional contributions from his dogs, we talk:- The difference between a principle-oriented vs a practice-oriented approach to Agile- How Paul O'Neill's turnaround of aluminium giant Alcoa led him to make safety a prerequisite in his philosophy- The true essence of agility- How the wiki creator Ward Cunningham still inspires him todayEnjoy!http://modernagile.org/https://www.industriallogic.com/

> Sign Up For Our Newsletter: http://www.firsthuman.com/being-human-newsletter/In this week's episode of Being Human I interview Joshua Kerievsky, the originator of Modern Agile and CEO of leading agile training and coaching group Industrial Logic. With occassional contributions from his dogs, we talk:- The difference between a principle-oriented vs a practice-oriented approach to Agile- How Paul O'Neill's turnaround of aluminium giant Alcoa led him to make safety a prerequisite in his philosophy- The true essence of agility- How the wiki creator Ward Cunningham still inspires him todayEnjoy!http://modernagile.org/https://www.industriallogic.com/

> Sign Up For Our Newsletter: http://www.firsthuman.com/being-human-newsletter/In this week's episode of Being Human I interview Joshua Kerievsky, the originator of Modern Agile and CEO of leading agile training and coaching group Industrial Logic. With occassional contributions from his dogs, we talk:- The difference between a principle-oriented vs a practice-oriented approach to Agile- How Paul O'Neill's turnaround of aluminium giant Alcoa led him to make safety a prerequisite in his philosophy- The true essence of agility- How the wiki creator Ward Cunningham still inspires him todayEnjoy!http://modernagile.org/https://www.industriallogic.com/

My guest today is Joshua Kerievsky, the CEO of Industrial Logic, a Modern Agile consultancy. He has also started the Modern Agile community and has been a prominent figure in the agile community since the early days. His background is in software, but through his experience in agile methods, he has worked on a much broader range than just the software. We walk through some of Joshua's history and talk a bit about how that came out in the form of Modern Agile community. We'll finish with a topic of curiosity, which - according to Joshua - is a superpower.

In this podcast Shane Hastie, Lead Editor for Culture & Methods, spoke to Joshua Kerievsky CEO of Industrial Logic and Heidi Helfand Director of Engineering Excellence at Procore Technologies and author of the book Dynamic Reteaming about their talk High Performance via Psychological Safety Why listen to this podcast: • You cannot have a high performing team unless you have psychological safety • Creating a safe environment is hard, and it must go beyond just lip service • Take the time to have crucial conversations early rather than later • The quality of the products we produce is a direct reflection of the quality of the conversations we have in our teams

Joshua Kerievsky (@joshuakerievsky) joined me (@RyanRipley) to discuss Modern Agile at the AgileIndy Conference in Indianapolis, Indiana. [featured-image single_newwindow=”false”]Joshua Kerievsky Presenting Modern Agile[/featured-image] Joshua is the founder and CEO of Industrial Logic, a pioneering Extreme Programming/Lean consultancy that radically improves the software development capabilities of organizations around the globe. Today, he leads an effort to modernize Agile by removing outdated practices and leveraging the best of what the software community and other industries have learned about achieving awesome results. Modern agile practitioners work to Make People Awesome, Make Safety A Prerequisite, Experiment & Learn Rapidly and Deliver Value Continuously. Joshua is an international speaker and author of the best-selling, Jolt Cola-award-winning book, Refactoring to Patterns, numerous Agile eLearning courses, and popular articles like Anzeneering, Sufficient Design and Stop Using Story Points. In this episode you'll discover: How Modern Agile has improved on past practices to help make teams awesome Why safety is critical to agility, and how without safety your practices and methodologies are pointless The role that continuous learning plays in an organization Links from the show: Industrial Logic Modern Agile AgileIndy Conference Lean Startup by Eric Ries The Fifth Discipline by Peter Senge Power of Habit by Charles Duhigg [callout]Most startups fail. But many of those failures are preventable. The Lean Startup is a new approach being adopted across the globe, changing the way companies are built and new products are launched. Eric Ries defines a startup as an organization dedicated to creating something new under conditions of extreme uncertainty. This is just as true for one person in a garage or a group of seasoned professionals in a Fortune 500 boardroom. What they have in common is a mission to penetrate that fog of uncertainty to discover a successful path to a sustainable business. Click here to purchase on Amazon.[/callout] [reminder]What are your thoughts about this episode? Please leave them in the comments section below.[/reminder] Want to hear a podcast about the getting started with speaking at technical conferences? — Listen to my conversation with Don Gray, Tim Ottinger, Amitai Schleier, and Jason Tice on episode 32. We discuss how to write a compelling abstract, what track reviewers are looking for in a submission, and how to give yourself the best change of getting selected. One tiny favor.  — Please take 30 seconds now and leave a review on iTunes. This helps others learn about the show and grows our audience. It will help the show tremendously, including my ability to bring on more great guests for all of us to learn from. Thanks! This podcast is brought to you by Audible. I have used Audible for years, and I love audio books. I have three to recommend: Agile and Lean Program Management by Johanna Rothman Scrum: The Art of Doing Twice the Work in Half the Time by Jeff Sutherland The Lean Startup by Eric Ries All you need to do to get your free 30-day Audible trial is go to Audibletrial.com/agile. Choose one of the above books, or choose between more than 180,000 audio programs. It's that easy. Go to Audibletrial.com/agile and get started today. Enjoy! The post AFH 066: Modern Agile with Joshua Kerievsky [PODCAST] appeared first on Ryan Ripley.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In this podcast Shane Hastie, InfoQ Lead Editor for Culture & Methods, spoke to Alexandre Freire Kawakami, a Director at Industrial Logic about his talk Enabling Awesome Engineering Teams, the ideas behind Modern Agile and the importance of feedback loops and real usage data for product development. Why listen to this podcast: - Overview of his talk on enabling awesome engineering teamsThe contradiction between values-driven and process-driven change - Modern Agile is designed to help people and organisations get over the process obsession - Working software is not enough – achieving better outcomes for customers is what’s important - By having analytics and usage data available we can learn what works and what doesn’t and make better decisions Notes and links can be found on InfoQ: http://bit.ly/2j2usrx 6m:15s - Modern agile is about a community sharing ideas and stories about working towards four principles: Deliver value continuously Make people awesome Experiment and learn rapidly Make safety a prerequisite 6m:40s - Some techniques which can help achieve these values, depending on the culture fit 7m:25s - The benefits of single piece flow 8m:10s - The importance of safety to make experimentation and learning possible 9m:40s - It’s about building a community- not selling ideas 9m:55s - Some practices which can be taught 10m:22s - Not all organisations want to change at the same rate and to the same extent, and that’s OK Quick scan our curated show notes on InfoQ: http://bit.ly/2j2usrx You can also subscribe to the InfoQ newsletter to receive weekly updates on the hottest topics from professional software development. bit.ly/2cMnjfW

Episode 8 of the Modern Agile Show is about the valuable practice of bargain hunting. You'll hear bargain hunting stories about plumbing, a teleportation feature in IMVU (the birthplace of Lean Startup) and a security feature in Industrial Logic's eLearning.

You need Vision and Hustle to be awesome at implementing Modern Agile, a passage about Product Leaders from the book, The Discipline of Market Leaders, a story about Industrial Logic's product at a famous search engine company and answering a question about deadlines.

Joshua Kerievsky is the founder and CEO of Industrial Logic, as well as the author of the award-winning book Refactoring to Patterns. In this episode, we discuss the four principles of Modern Agile and how their reach is now beyond software development.

Hosts Ryan Ripley, Amitai Schlair, Bryan Beecham Discussion Ryan Ripley (@RyanRipley) Amitai Schlair (@schmonz) and Bryan Beecham (@BillyGarnet) started the show by talking about the great impact that Tim Ottinger (@tottinge) has had on their lives and on the agile community. To learn more about Tim and his thoughts on agile, you can visit his blog:  agileotter.blogspot.com We then jumped over to the #NoEstimates topic where value and impediments to continuous delivery were highlighted. Bryan also went in to the people side of #NoEstimates and finding the value in the work that we do. We spoke about trust in the workplace and how Industrial Logic promotes trust as a core value. If there is no trust, then there cannot be alignment. Which begs the question: If the people aren't aligned, how are they supposed to do great work? If the people aren't aligned how are they supposed to do great work?Tweet This We also noted that the #NoEstimates discussion on Twitter isn't “safe” at times and that needs to change for real progress and learning to happen. We then moved in to the art of human refactoring and how people can implement change in their own lives. We barely scratched the surface of this topic and will tackle it again on a future episode. And then…we called it a night. Agile for Humans is brought to you by audible.com – get one FREE audiobook download and 30 day free trial at www.audibletrial.com/agile Resources, Plugs, and More Ryan – https://ryanripley.com I’m speaking at SDEC 2015 in Winnipeg, Canada on November 2-4th and would love to meet you if you are also attending Amitai – http://www.schmonz.com/ Agile in 3 Minutes 11: Safe Follow Michael “GeePaw” Hill on Twitter Bryan – https://humanrefactor.wordpress.com/ Agile Brazil – TDD with Legos Agile Testing Days Agile in a Flash by Tim Ottinger Tim Ottinger’s I Want Agile Back The 4 Hour Body by Tim Ferriss Llewellyn Falco's visualization of mob programming The Industrial Logic Blog The post AFH 019: Human Refactoring with Bryan Beecham [PODCAST] appeared first on Ryan Ripley.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Tim Ottinger talks about his work within Industrial Logic to make the transition to Agile safe for organizations and the people  delivering the transformation.  We spoke at the Agile Coaches Camp in 2014.     Enjoy the talk

The Software Process and Measurement Cast features our interview with Woody Zuill.  We talked about the concept and controversy swirling around #NoEstimates. Even if the concept is a bridge too far for you, the conversation is important because we talked about why thinking and questioning is a critical survival technique. As Woody points out, it is important to peer past the “thou musts” to gain greater understanding of what you should be doing! Woody Zuill has been programming computers for 30+ years. Over the last 15+ years he has worked as an Agile Coach, Trainer, and Extreme Programmer and now works with Industrial Logic as a Trainer/Coach/Consultant for Agile and Lean software development. He believes code must be simple, clean, and maintainable to realize the Agile promise of Responding to Change.  Contact InformationMob Programming: http://mobprogramming.org/Blog: http://zuill.us/WoodyZuill/Twitter: https://twitter.com/woodyzuill Call to action! I have a challenge for the Software Process and Measurement Cast listeners for the next few weeks.  I would like you find one person that you think would like the podcast and introduce them to the cast.  This might mean sending them the URL or teaching how to download podcasts.  If you like the podcast and think it is valuable they will be thankful to you for introducing them to the Software Process and Measurement Cast! Thank you in advance! Re-Read Saturday News We have just begun the Re-Read Saturday of The Mythical Man-Month. We are off to a rousing start beginning with the Tar Pit.   Get a copy now and start reading! The Re-Read Saturday and other great articles can be found on the Software Process and Measurement Blog. Remember: We just completed the Re-Read Saturday of Eliyahu M. Goldratt and Jeff Cox’s The Goal: A Process of Ongoing Improvement, which began on February 21nd. What did you think?  Did the re-read cause you to read The Goal back up for a refresher? Visit the Software Process and Measurement Blog and review the whole re-read. Note: If you don’t have a copy of the book, buy one.  If you use the link below it will support the Software Process and Measurement blog and podcast. Dead Tree Version or Kindle Version  Upcoming Events Software Quality and Test Management  September 13 – 18, 2015 San Diego, California http://qualitymanagementconference.com/ I will be speaking on the impact of cognitive biases on teams!  Let me know if you are attending! More on other great conferences soon! Next SPaMCast The next Software Process and Measurement Cast is a magazine installment.  We will feature our essay on Agile Testing. The flow of testing is different in an Agile project.  In many cases, organizations have either not recognized the change in flow, or have created Agile/waterfall hybrids with test groups holding onto waterfall patterns.  While some of the hybrids are driven by mandated contractual relationships, the majority are driven by lack of understanding or fear of how testing should flow in Agile projects. We will also have new installments from Jeremy Berriault’s QA Corner.  Jeremy, is a leader in the world of quality assurance and testing and was originally interviewed on the Software Process and Measurement Cast 274. The third column features Steve Tendon discussing more of his great new book, Hyper-Productive Knowledge Work Performance.  Shameless Ad for my book! Mastering Software Project Management: Best Practices, Tools and Techniques co-authored by Murali Chematuri and myself and published by J. Ross Publishing. We have received unsolicited reviews like the following: “This book will prove that software projects should not be a tedious process, neither for you or your team.” Support SPaMCAST by buying the book here. Available in English and Chinese.

Adam and I chat about the JavaScript, the federated wiki and a wide variety of topics as usual. Adam is one of the best coaches I have worked with and I always enjoy working with him.  He is now more in the trenches working with Industrial Logic. Enjoy Bob Payne

For this episode we recorded an interview with Joshua Kerievsky. Joshua is an early pioneer and expert in eXtreme Programming, an author and regular speaker and founder and CEO of Industrial Logic. We talk about patterns, refactoring, e-learning and some of the principles of Lean Startup. You can follow him in twitter via @joshuakerievsky. The interview was recorded at Igluu in Eindhoven.Interview by @freekl and @Mmz_Audio post-production by @mendelt Links for this podcast: Book: Refactoring to Patterns, Joshua Kerievsky, 2004. Industrial Logic elearning albums Book: Design Patterns, Gamma, Helm, Johnson & Vlissides (the 'gang of four'), 1994 Book: Refactoring, Martin Fowler, 1999 Book: Test Driven Development: By Example, Kent Beck, 2002 Presentation: The Limited Red Society, Joshua Kerievsky, 2010 Book: Delivering Happiness: A Path to Profits, Passion, and Purpose, Tony Hsieh, 2010 Book: The Lean Startup, Eric Ries, 2011 Presentation: Continuous Deployment, Timothy Fitz, 2009 Book: The Four Steps to the Epiphany, Steven Blank, 2005