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Don't miss this special episode of Come, Follow Church History with Doctor Lynne Hilton Wilson about the Joseph Smith Translation of the Bible. Join Lynne as you asks some hard questions about Jospeh's work on the Bible and the most significant verses he translated. Joseph Smith's translation (JST) of the Bible did not start with its original languages of Hebrew (Old Testament) and Greek (New Testament) as technical translations do. In this way, the JST is more of a revision of certain passages. Many passages Joseph was inspired to add or change—especially in early chapters of Genesis. For other portions, the JST modernized the grammar or clarified the text. Some changes came from revelation after asking questions, and others from his own preferences and understanding.
An in-depth study of D&C 30-36, revelations to various individuals being called to serve missions, as well as a revelation to Joseph Smith and Sidney Rigdon regarding the Joseph Smith Translation of the Bible. 0:00 Introduction and Overview 3:44 Missionary Fears 13:11 Senior Missionaries 23:00 Advice for Missionaries 32:17 The Eleventh Hour 41:55 Finding the Faithful in Babylon 55:27 God's Own Bible 1:05:09 Fleeing the Fire 1:14:39 One-Liners
Take advantage of the amazing extra content we have TSAR.website, Help the podcast keep going and bless your life with a huge amount of incredible content by joining us. In this Episode Andrew Skinner and Kerry explore one of the most amazing sections. They talk about what it means to be elect and what it means to gather the elect. They also speak about the role of the Joseph Smith Translation revelations in the reception of more revelation. That takes them into a discussion of agency and the Fall and the spiritual and temporal nature of creation and a Restoration perspective on that. We are grateful for the generosity of our executive producer, B. Fisher, and for our other generous donors who make the podcast possible. We are also grateful for the incredible work of Launchpad Consulting Studio who produces the podcast, and for Rich Nicholls, who composed and plays the music for the podcast.
→ Watch on YouTube → Detailed Show Notes → Timestamps: (00:00) An overview – Christ will prevail.(07:25) The background to this section is the Joseph Smith Translation.(12:28) The name of Christ: I Am that I Am.(21:08) God promises to gather His people as a hen gathereth her chicks.(29:06) The earth The post Ep 314 | D&C 29, Come Follow Me 2025 (March 31-April 6) appeared first on LDS Scripture Teachings.
How the Joseph Smith Translation of the Bible leads to revelation
In the last episode of the first season of Slow Burn of Mormon History Andrew Soncrant and Ryan McMartin tackle the Joseph Smith Translation of the Bible. This work cannot continue without your partnership click HERE To partner with us today to keep seasons just like this one coming. You can see our YouTube channel HERE
Kent P. Jackson spoke at the 2021 Tracing Ancient Threads in the Book of Moses Conference on Saturday, April 24, 2021. Many Latter-day Saints are unaware of the origin of “Selections from the Book of Moses,” one of the books in the Pearl of Great Price. In short, it consists of the beginning pages of […] The post Conference Talks: How We Got the Joseph Smith Translation, the Book of Moses, and Joseph Smith—Matthew first appeared on The Interpreter Foundation.
The Joseph Smith Translation of the Bible (with co-host Earl Erskine)
In this episode, Bryan, Bo and KD explore the differences between the Bible and the Book of Mormon, focusing on textual and historical evidence. They discuss how the Book of Mormon lacks archaeological evidence and contains anachronisms, while the Bible has extensive evidence supporting its accuracy and reliability. They emphasize that the Bible tells one unified story, written by multiple authors over 1500 years, yet remaining consistent. They also address the reliability of Bible translations, explaining that translations are accurate and reliable, and the Joseph Smith Translation cannot be considered a true translation. They conclude by highlighting the power and inspiration of the Bible as the Word of God.Takeaways:Mormons believe the Bible is the word of God, but it is not infallible and has errors.The Bible is ranked below the Book of Mormon, Doctrine and Covenants, and Pearl of Great Price in Mormon canon.Christians believe in the verbal plenary inspiration of the Bible, meaning that divine inspiration extends to the very words themselves and all parts of the Bible.The Book of Mormon lacks archaeological evidence and contains anachronisms, while the Bible has extensive evidence supporting its accuracy and reliability.The Bible tells one unified story, written by multiple authors over 1500 years, yet remaining consistent.Translations of the Bible are accurate and reliable, and the Joseph Smith Translation cannot be considered a true translation.The Bible is the Word of God and can be trusted.--The Unveiling Mormonism podcast pulls back the curtain on Mormon history, culture and doctrine. Join us for new episodes every Monday. Find resources to talk about these episodes at pursueGOD.org/mormonism.Help others go "full circle" as a follower of Jesus through our 12-week Pursuit series.Click here to learn more about how to use these resources at home, with a small group, or in a one-on-one discipleship relationship.Got questions or want to leave a note? Email us at podcast@pursueGOD.org.Donate Now Mentioned in this episode:Donate Now
In this episode, Bryan, Bo and KD explore the differences between the Bible and the Book of Mormon, focusing on textual and historical evidence. They discuss how the Book of Mormon lacks archaeological evidence and contains anachronisms, while the Bible has extensive evidence supporting its accuracy and reliability. They emphasize that the Bible tells one unified story, written by multiple authors over 1500 years, yet remaining consistent. They also address the reliability of Bible translations, explaining that translations are accurate and reliable, and the Joseph Smith Translation cannot be considered a true translation. They conclude by highlighting the power and inspiration of the Bible as the Word of God.Takeaways:Mormons believe the Bible is the word of God, but it is not infallible and has errors.The Bible is ranked below the Book of Mormon, Doctrine and Covenants, and Pearl of Great Price in Mormon canon.Christians believe in the verbal plenary inspiration of the Bible, meaning that divine inspiration extends to the very words themselves and all parts of the Bible.The Book of Mormon lacks archaeological evidence and contains anachronisms, while the Bible has extensive evidence supporting its accuracy and reliability.The Bible tells one unified story, written by multiple authors over 1500 years, yet remaining consistent.Translations of the Bible are accurate and reliable, and the Joseph Smith Translation cannot be considered a true translation.The Bible is the Word of God and can be trusted.--The Unveiling Mormonism podcast pulls back the curtain on Mormon history, culture and doctrine. Join us for new episodes every Monday. Find resources to talk about these episodes at pursueGOD.org/mormonism.Help others go "full circle" as a follower of Jesus through our 12-week Pursuit series.Click here to learn more about how to use these resources at home, with a small group, or in a one-on-one discipleship relationship.Got questions or want to leave a note? Email us at podcast@pursueGOD.org.Donate Now Mentioned in this episode:Donate Now
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints made an historic aquision today purchasing the Kirtland Temple, several Nauvoo properties, The Joseph Smith Translation manuscripts, and several other landmark items for $192.5 Million from the Community of Christ (formerly RLDS Church). Steven Pynnaker, who seems to have broken the story, joins me with some inside information on the transaction and the financial need of the Community of Christ to sell these properties. Website - www.cwicmedia.com
Joseph Smith's "Inspired Version" often described as the "Joseph Smith Translation" was an inspired effort made by JS to restore plain and precious truths to the Bible which had been lost. The IV or JST was inspired by passages in the Book of Mormon, observed during the translation process, that pertained to ther Bible. It commenced just a few months after the Book of Mormon translaton and printing had been completed. It was never completed. JS was working on it until the day he died in 1844. The JST/IV consists of (1) expensions of material about Moses, Enoch and Melchizedek, (2) grammatical improvements, (3) meaning changes, (4) interpretive changes or additions usually indicated by "or in other words", (5) changes that clarify, and, (6) reconciling passages that contradicted other Bible passages. To make his JST or IV, Joseph used a King James Bible purchased from E.B. Grandin by Oliver Cowdery. Learn more about the inspired changes from this episode of Religion Today, hosted by Martin Tanner
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As the only named Lamanite called to prophesy unto the Nephites, Samuel serves as a memorable figure in the Book of Mormon. Not only did he risk his life to preach repentance unto the Nephites from the wall of Zarahemla, but he also detailed vital signs of the birth and death of Jesus Christ. In this episode, Dr. Frank Judd Jr. discusses his chapter “Samuel the Lamanite and Prophecies Fulfilled,” from the Book of Mormon Academy volume Samuel the Lamanite—That Ye Might Believe. Professor Judd discusses Samuel's prophecies of the Savior and a possible connection with the Joseph Smith Translation. These signs were so crucial to our understanding of these events that the resurrected Lord commanded Nephi to include all of them in the record (see 3 Nephi 23:9—13). In studying these words, we “might have glad tidings” (Helaman 13:7) unto our souls much like Samuel intended. Publications: · “Samuel the Lamanite and Prophecies Fulfilled” (in Samuel the Lamanite—That Ye Might Believe, Religious Studies Center, 2021) · For Professor Judd's other publications, please see his Religious Studies Center author profile here Click here to learn more about Frank Judd Jr.
From Come Follow Me:When John and Jude wrote their epistles, corrupt doctrine had already started leading many Saints into apostasy. Some false teachers were even questioning whether Jesus Christ had actually appeared “in the flesh” (see, for example, 1 John 4:1–3; 2 John 1:7). What could a Church leader do in such a situation? The Apostle John responded by sharing his personal witness of the Savior: “This is the testimony which we give of that which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life” (Joseph Smith Translation, 1 John 1:1 [in 1 John 1:1, footnote a]). And then John taught about love: God's love for us and the love we should have for Him and all His children. After all, John was a witness of that, too. He had personally experienced the Savior's love (see John 13:23; 20:2), and he wanted the Saints to feel that same love. John's testimony and teachings on love are just as needed today, when faith in Jesus Christ is questioned and false teachings abound. Reading John's epistles can help us face today's adversities with courage, for “there is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear” (1 John 4:18).**********************The thoughts, ideas, and beliefs we express on this channel do not officially represent The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. For additional information or official statements, please visit the website below.The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints:https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/?lang=eng#biblestudy #oldtestament #religion #churchofjesuschrist #ldspodcast #christianpodcast #missionary #lds #biblestories #christ #faith #faithinchrist #scriptures #bookofmormon #doctrineandcovenants #pearlofgreatprice #temples #houseofthelord #mormon #mormonbeliefs #chritiansandmormons #god #endure #ironrod #faithineveryfootstep #generalconference #prophets #followtheprophet #commandments #love #service #charity #keepstriving #keeponstriving #gospelgrowthandgoodtimes #become #newtestamentSupport the show
Aside from his Book of Mormon translation project, Joseph Smith engaged in at least three other scripture production projects that we know of. The first was his ambitious Bible translation project we now know as the Joseph Smith Translation, the second was the printing of his own revelations which we now know as the Doctrine and Covenants, and the third was his project of translation which commenced after he acquired papyrus scrolls from Egypt which we now know as the Book of Abraham. Throughout this new series we will consider each of these fascinating projects in turn, including the points of controversy connected with each. In this episode of Church History Matters, we begin our exploration of Joseph Smith's translation of the Bible, or the JST for short. When did it begin? Why didn't we get this into Latter-day Saint Bibles until 1979? What does the word “translate” mean in this context in light of the fact that Joseph Smith didn't know Hebrew or Greek during this project? And what are some assumptions Church members often bring to the text of the JST that may not be warranted? For show notes and transcript for this and other episodes go to https://doctrineandcovenantscentral.org/church-history-matters-podcast/
From Come Follow Me:As he opened his epistle to the Romans, Paul greeted Church members by calling them “beloved of God” who were “called to be saints.” He remarked that their “faith [was] spoken of throughout the whole world” (Romans 1:7–8). Even though Paul spent much of his epistle correcting false ideas and flawed behaviors, it seems he also wanted to assure these new Christian converts that they truly were Saints who were beloved of God. His tender counsel blesses all of us who struggle to feel God's love and for whom becoming a Saint may feel out of reach. With humble empathy, Paul acknowledged that he had felt like a “wretched man” at times (Romans 7:24), but the gospel of Jesus Christ had given him power to overcome sin (see Joseph Smith Translation, Romans 7:22–27 [in the Bible appendix]). With that power, the Savior's redeeming power, we can “overcome evil”—both evil in the world and evil in ourselves—“with good” (Romans 12:21).The thoughts, ideas, and beliefs we express on this channel do not officially represent The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. For additional information or official statements, please visit the website below.The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints:https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/?lang=eng#biblestudy #oldtestament #religion #churchofjesuschrist #ldspodcast #christianpodcast #missionary #lds #biblestories #christ #faith #faithinchrist #scriptures #bookofmormon #doctrineandcovenants #pearlofgreatprice #temples #houseofthelord #mormon #mormonbeliefs #chritiansandmormons #god #endure #ironrod #faithineveryfootstep #generalconference #prophets #followtheprophet #commandments #love #service #charity #keepstriving #keeponstriving #gospelgrowthandgoodtimes #become #newtestamentSupport the show
00:00 Christian and Mormon foundational disagreements 07:58 What the Mormon church says about Joseph Smith 13:22 The Joseph Smith Translation of the Bible 20:34 Joseph Smith's problem with Logos
Join John, Nemo, and Mike in a captivating episode as they unravel the intricate tapestry of influences that shaped the founder of Mormonism, Joseph Smith. From the unique doctrines of Mormonism to the enigmatic Book of Mormon, they embark on a thought-provoking journey through history and religious texts. Discover the surprising connections between revival sermons and the sermons in the Book of Mormon, and explore the profound influence of figures like Alexander Campbell on Joseph Smith's religious framework. Delve into the visionary experiences that shaped Smith's spiritual journey, from the lesser-known first visions of Norris Stearns and Asa Wild to the fascinating early versions of "memes" in American history. Uncover the intriguing connections between the priesthood restoration and the teachings of the Campbellites, as well as the incorporation of the Book of Enoch in the Joseph Smith Translation of the Bible. Journey through the Word of Wisdom and its links to the Temperance Movement and explore the historical contexts that influenced Smith's perspectives on the Curse of Cain and the Curse of Ham. Finally, peel back the layers of the Endowment Ceremony and its similarities to the Masonic Ceremony, shedding light on Joseph Smith's quest to restore ancient rituals. Prepare for an eye-opening exploration of the diverse influences that shaped Joseph Smith and the emergence of Mormonism. In this episode, you'll uncover the intricate connections between historical events, religious movements, and Joseph Smith's visionary experiences, shedding new light on the foundations of one of America's most influential religious movements. Episode Show Notes _________________________ LDS Discussions is made possible by generous donors! Help us continue to deliver quality content by becoming a donor today: One-time or recurring donation through Donorbox Support us on Patreon LDS Discussions Platforms: LDS Discussions Website LDS Discussions Playlist on YouTube Contact LDS Discussions: Twitter: @ldsdicussions Facebook: @ldsdiscussion Insta: @ldsdiscussions Email: ldsdiscussions@gmail.com Contact us: MormonStories@gmail.com PO Box 171085, Salt Lake City, UT 84117 Social Media: Insta: @mormstories Tiktok: @mormonstoriespodcast Join the Discord
Join John, Nemo, and Mike in a captivating episode as they unravel the intricate tapestry of influences that shaped the founder of Mormonism, Joseph Smith. From the unique doctrines of Mormonism to the enigmatic Book of Mormon, they embark on a thought-provoking journey through history and religious texts. Discover the surprising connections between revival sermons and the sermons in the Book of Mormon, and explore the profound influence of figures like Alexander Campbell on Joseph Smith's religious framework. Delve into the visionary experiences that shaped Smith's spiritual journey, from the lesser-known first visions of Norris Stearns and Asa Wild to the fascinating early versions of "memes" in American history. Uncover the intriguing connections between the priesthood restoration and the teachings of the Campbellites, as well as the incorporation of the Book of Enoch in the Joseph Smith Translation of the Bible. Journey through the Word of Wisdom and its links to the Temperance Movement and explore the historical contexts that influenced Smith's perspectives on the Curse of Cain and the Curse of Ham. Finally, peel back the layers of the Endowment Ceremony and its similarities to the Masonic Ceremony, shedding light on Joseph Smith's quest to restore ancient rituals. Prepare for an eye-opening exploration of the diverse influences that shaped Joseph Smith and the emergence of Mormonism. In this episode, you'll uncover the intricate connections between historical events, religious movements, and Joseph Smith's visionary experiences, shedding new light on the foundations of one of America's most influential religious movements. Episode Show Notes _________________________ LDS Discussions is made possible by generous donors! Help us continue to deliver quality content by becoming a donor today: One-time or recurring donation through Donorbox Support us on Patreon LDS Discussions Platforms: LDS Discussions Website LDS Discussions Playlist on YouTube Contact LDS Discussions: Twitter: @ldsdicussions Facebook: @ldsdiscussion Insta: @ldsdiscussions Email: ldsdiscussions@gmail.com Contact us: MormonStories@gmail.com PO Box 171085, Salt Lake City, UT 84117 Social Media: Insta: @mormstories Tiktok: @mormonstoriespodcast Join the Discord --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/lds-discussions/message
We'll discuss the controversy of Thomas Wayment's recent paper about the Joseph Smith Translation & Adam Clarke. What do people get wrong? We'll also discuss some New Testament scholarship. Did Joseph Smith and/or other translators mistranslate Paul? Did Paul start Christianity? Dr Thomas Wayment has a new edition and new publisher of is translation of the New Testament! Check out our conversation.... https://youtu.be/L6kkhSHX4Ok transcript to follow Copyright © 2023 Gospel Tangents All Rights Reserved Except for book reviews, no content may be reproduced without written permission transcript to follow Copyright © 2023 Gospel Tangents All Rights Reserved Except for book reviews, no content may be reproduced without written permission
This week we are studying the second coming of Jesus Christ! We are reading Joseph Smith—Matthew 1; Matthew 24–25; Mark 12–13; Luke 21 “The Son of Man Shall Come” What is Joseph Smith—Matthew? Joseph Smith—Matthew, located in the Pearl of Great Price, is the Joseph Smith Translation of the last verse of Matthew 23 and all of Matthew 24. Joseph Smith's inspired revisions restore precious truths that had been lost. Verses 12–21 refer to the destruction of Jerusalem anciently; verses 21–55 contain prophecies about the last days. This week the children will come away knowing: Jesus wants me to serve others. We serve Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ by serving people around us. I am responsible for my own conversion to Jesus Christ. The parable of the ten virgins for kids teaches that we cannot borrow our conversion to the Savior from others. They will also learn the parable of the sheep and goats for kids. We also discuss that at the Final Judgment, we will give the Lord an account of our lives. This is a Come Follow me podcast for children. We are members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, and we create this podcast for primary aged children (2-12) following along with the church's Come Follow Me Manual. This is a New Testament Bible Study podcast for children. If your children would like to be guests on our podcast email us at comefollowmekidspodcast@gmail.com and we will send you an assignment for a future week. Here is a link to the service survey referenced in the show: https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/friend/2019/03/service-survey?lang=eng
From Come Follow Me:Some of the Savior's most memorable teachings were in the form of simple stories called parables. These were more than just interesting anecdotes about ordinary objects or events. They contained profound truths about the kingdom of God for those who were spiritually prepared. One of the first parables recorded in the New Testament—the parable of the sower (see Matthew 13:3–23)—invites us to examine our readiness to receive God's word. “For whosoever receiveth,” Jesus declared, “to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance” (Joseph Smith Translation, Matthew 13:10 [in Matthew 13:12, footnote a]). So as we prepare to study the Savior's parables—or any of His teachings—a good place to start is to examine our hearts and determine whether we are giving the word of God “good ground” (Matthew 13:8) in which to grow, blossom, flourish, and produce fruit that will bless us and our families in abundance.The thoughts, ideas, and beliefs we express on this channel do not officially represent The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. For additional information or official statements, please visit the website below.The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints:https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/?lang=eng#biblestudy #oldtestament #religion #churchofjesuschrist #ldspodcast #christianpodcast #missionary #lds #biblestories #christ #faith #faithinchrist #scriptures #bookofmormon #doctrineandcovenants #pearlofgreatprice #temples #houseofthelord #mormon #mormonbeliefs #chritiansandmormons #god #endure #ironrod #faithineveryfootstep #generalconference #prophets #followtheprophet #commandments #love #service #charity #keepstriving #keeponstriving #gospelgrowthandgoodtimes #become #newtestamentSupport the show
In this episode, we discuss the Joseph Smith Translation of the Bible and spend some time on the Sermon on the Mount. We also read an email about how popular the podcast is with arrested criminals in the back of police cars. Join us on the Standard of Truth Tour (a few slots still available): Monday, June 5th through Sunday, June 11th - https://standardoftruth.com/tours/ Subscribe to our free newsletter - https://standardoftruthpodcast.substack.com/ Please visit our website at www.standardoftruth.com If you have any questions or possible topics of discussion for upcoming podcasts, please email us at: questions@standardoftruthpodcast.com
The Sermon on the Mount PART 2! As the Savior continues His sermon, it is important to remember that there is no break in the sermon between chapter 5 and 6 or 6 and 7. Scholars have broken the sermon into chapters to make reading and digesting the sermon easier. The themes, however likely carry through from chapter to chapter. With that in mind, we should consider the apparent contradiction in the Savior's message. In chapter 5, Jesus said, "Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on a hill cannot be hid. . . . Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works..." (vs 14, 16)Then, in chapter 6, he says that we should serve others and say our prays in secret and not let anyone know when we are fasting.Well what is it? Should we do our good works in public or should we keep them hidden? In this discussion, Stuart and I discuss this and the impact of our motivations on our good works as well as a tip from Elder Robert D. Hales on how to measure our motives. Another great point from this epic sermon is the idea of judging others. The Joseph Smith Translation seems to make allowances for "righteous" judgment, but what is that and what does it look like?
Come Follow Me Podcast for Kids! We are a New Testament Bible study podcast that follows the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints teachings from the Come Follow me Primary manual. This week we are studying: John 2–4 “Ye Must Be Born Again” I can honor my mother as Jesus did. I need to be baptized and confirmed to return to live with Heavenly Father. Jesus Christ is my “living water.” At the wedding in Cana, Mary told Jesus that the wine had run out. According to the Joseph Smith Translation, Jesus responded to His mother by asking, “Woman, what wilt thou have me to do for thee? that will I do” (in John 2:4, footnote a). Jesus is an example of how we should treat our mothers. Being baptized and confirmed is like being born again. When we are baptized, which Jesus called being “born of water,” we receive a remission of our sins and can “enter into the kingdom of God” (John 3:5). This week children will learn: What things are like “living water” that can satisfy us forever?
Joseph Smith Translation, Matthew 4:11
A reading of this week's Come Follow Me assignment. Matthew 4; Luke 4-5. Keep in mind that Matthew 4 is the Joseph Smith Translation version. Luke 4-5 is not.
What is the Joseph Smith Translation?
Episode 2January 2 - January 8 | “Be It Unto Me According to Thy Word”Apologize to Ben FearMove to Wyoming#OldTestament2022 #comefollowme #comefollowme2022 #TalkofHim #FindHimJoin hosts Ganel-Lyn Condie and John Fossum on this FIRST New Testament episode of Talk of Him as we explore these important themes, topics, and questions: Jesus Christ as our Savior from sin and His divine mission (help and healing)Feared AND Favored – trusting God in your difficult stewardships Acting in faith even when it may look crazy to others—Invitation: What message may God be teaching us about the mission of His Son by referencing four women in Jesus's lineage that hailed from non-ideal heritages?— Quotes & Links: Link to FIND HIM New Testament Study Guide:https://www.seagullbook.com/find-him-new-testament-come-follow-me-guidebook.html Link to Come to Bethlehem and See by Ganel-Lyn Condie: https://www.seagullbook.com/come-to-bethlehem-and-see.html Mistakes are a fact of life. … “Success,” it has been said, “isn't the absence of failure, but going from failure to failure without any loss of enthusiasm.” With his invention of the light bulb, Thomas Edison purportedly said, “I didn't fail 1,000 times. The light bulb was an invention with 1,000 steps.” Charles F. Kettering called failures “finger posts on the road to achievement.” Hopefully, each mistake we make becomes a lesson in wisdom, turning stumbling blocks into stepping-stones. … Knowing that the strait and narrow path would be strewn with trials and that failures would be a daily occurrence for us, the Savior paid an infinite price to give us as many chances as it would take to successfully pass our mortal probation…. His grace and His loving eye are upon us throughout our entire journey as He inspires, lightens burdens, strengthens, delivers, protects, heals, and otherwise “succor[s] his people,” even as they stumble along the strait and narrow path. (2018–A:21, Lynn G. Robbins, Until Seventy Times Seven)“When Gabriel appears, Mary is a young woman engaged to be married to Joseph (see Luke 1:27). Although we do not know how old Mary was at the time, in antiquity it was possible for marriage contracts to be arranged even before puberty. Gabriel's appearance and declarations that Mary is “highly favoured,” that “the Lord is with thee,” that she is “blessed . . . among women” (Luke 1:28), and that, according to the Joseph Smith Translation of Luke 1:28, she was “chosen” (see also Alma 7:10) must have elicited a mixed reaction of confusion and even fear in Mary. We can only imagine what thoughts might have raced through her mind at that moment, but they could have included questions like, “Why does God consider me to be ‘blessed among women'?” “Why have I ‘found favour with God' and what does that even mean?” (see Luke 1:30) (Gaye Strathearn, “Mary, the Mother of Jesus,” Ensign or Liahona, Jan. 2019)“Do you feel troubled and uncertain about what is being asked of you? As you fall to your knees, pleading for help to do one more day, do you wonder if God is really favoring you in these blessings? Do you worry aboutthe capacity needed for the callings ahead?” (Come to Bethlehem and See, Ganel-Lyn Condie)—Talk of Him is presented by Seagull Book and hosted by Ganel-Lyn Condie and John Fossum.
January 2-8 You know, it's important that you add the Joseph Smith Translation to all of your studies in the coming year because Joseph gives us so many insights into the New Testament. We'll talk about them here and there, and you just need to pay attention to those. One of the very first ones that we need to look at is just the fact that Joseph changed the name of the books—those four Gospels— that we call The Gospel According to Matthew to The Testimony of Matthew, and The Testimony of Mark, The Testimony of Luke, and The Testimony of John. That makes a real difference.
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Learn about the significance of the ten plagues the Lord sent to Egypt, and a few lessons we can learn from those plagues, including lessons about God's power, the real purpose of being on earth, the power of our own choices and the effects they have on others, how to make sure we're not ignoring the Lord's warnings and commandments in our own lives, and so much more. We will also focus on the Passover and how in many ways it parallels the ordinance of the Sacrament. And we'll discover how to see things through a symbolic lens to help us come to see and know the Savior in personal and intimate ways as we work to come unto Him. Download Episode Transcript (0:01) - Who is the God of the Old Testament and where does the name Jehovah come from? The serpent as a symbol of Christ and His power (6:16) - The Joseph Smith Translation and introducing the 10 plagues on Egypt; God's respect for our agency; why does God send such signs and wonders?; God as a God of order (11:49) - Plagues 1-3; a theological war of sorts; how the Lord seems to be “uncreating” Egypt (16:36) - Plague 4; how the Lord is seeking to protect us from the plagues of the last days; a personal inventory to determine if we are accepting the Lord's protection today (21:25) - How the plagues demonstrate the chaotic consequences of choosing to life a life without God (24:17) - Plagues 5-6; how our choices affect others; how the plagues are a predecessor of the plagues of the last days (29:23) - Plague 7-9; keeping our promises to obey and follow the Lord (32:26) - Plague 10 - the Passover, the Savior, and the Sacrament; salvation from sin through Jesus Christ and His Atonement; teaching tip: learning to see things through a symbolic lens (47:26) - The second Exodus of the gathering of Israel; invitation to participate in general conference and a reminder of the earlier episode from September 28th, 2021 giving a sneak peek behind the scenes of general conference
Today we talk about the Joseph Smith Translation of Genesis 50 and how closely it relates to a prophecy passed down through Jewish oral tradition. Info on the Messiah Ben Joseph prophecy: https://rsc-legacy.byu.edu/archived/selections-2007-religious-education-student-symposium/ancient-studies/messiah-ben-joseph https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/ensign/1972/12/the-old-testament-speaks-today?lang=eng
When Kerry Muhlestein received a PhD in Egyptology from UCLA, he had no plans to research the Book of Abraham. But when people kept asking him about the scripture's origins, he decided to devote his time to finding the answers. Years later, Dr. Muhlestein is considered an expert on all things Old Testament and the Pearl of Great Price. He joins us on this week's episode to help us get excited for this year's Come, Follow Me study. “If you lose faith in the Restoration, you have lost—in some ways—everything. Of course, you can believe in Christ and not believe in the Restoration, but believing in Christ, in the way He is taught to us through the Restoration, gives us a chance for an exaltation and a peace in this life and a joy in this life that really isn't possible any other way.” Show Notes 1:36- Egyptology 5:53- Historicity of Scripture 8:55- Symbolism 14:36- Finding God in the Old Testament 18:45- Getting the Most Out 20:43- Being Okay With Ambiguity 25:55- Lost Manuscripts 33:01- Witnesses 34:05- Translation 40:18- Evidence of Truth? 47:39- Book of Moses 48:55- What Do We Have To Gain? 51:37- What Does It Mean To Be All In the Gospel of Jesus Christ? Find the full episode transcript at ldsliving.com/allin. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
An indepth study of Moses 7, which recounts the visions of Enoch and Zion being caught up to heaven. This lesson focuses on building Zion, the devil's laughter, the God Who weeps, coming to know God's heart, Mother Earth, flooding the world with truth, and more. 0:00 Welcome 1:59 Joseph Smith Translation and Moses 7 7:26 Building Zion 12:47 Study of Moses 7 15:52 Conversations at Higher Elevations 19:37 Wickedness Spreads 26:29 Enoch's Faith, Power, & Language 31:16 Zion, City of Holiness 39:34 Visions of Wickedness 42:49 Satan's Laughter 48:01 Noah's Converts 49:55 A Weeping God 1:00:33 The Two Great Commandments 1:05:04 The Wickedness of the World 1:09:26 Sorrow over Our Suffering 1:15:45 The Suffering of the Savior 1:18:14 Understanding God's Heart 1:22:11 The Flood 1:26:49 The Coming of Christ 1:29:38 Mother Earth 1:40:42 A Flood of Truth 1:49:23 Conclusion
This Week, Most Excellent Theophilus, we discuss the LDS, the Joseph Smith Translation, and the book of Galatians.
What is the "Joseph Smith Translation" also known as the "Inspired Version"? Was it ever finished? What are the six kinds of changes Joseph Smith made to the Bible when he made the JST? Which Bible translation did Joseph Smith use when making the JST? In this episode of Religion Today, host Martin Tanner answers these answers and more. If you have ever wanted to learn more about the Joseph Smith Translation, this episode of Religion Today is one to hear. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
July 12-18 In the last two podcasts we have talked about the Joseph Smith Translation of the Bible and the tremendous blessings that came to the Prophet Joseph and to Sidney Rigdon as they carefully studied, pondered and meticulously prayed over the Bible. One of the great blessings that came was The Vision of the Three Degrees of Glory. In this week's lesson we get a micro-specific peek into the process of coming to understand a very difficult passage of scripture. The Prophet is asking the Lord very specific questions about Chapters 4 and 7 through 11 in the book of Revelation. And it's not so much what was revealed to Joseph that was important to us as it was the pattern for studying the scriptures and receiving personal revelation.
Shiloh and Ben open up a discussion about the scriptural-based idea of “shame” and what it means to “speak our trauma.” The Lord commands the early Saints to “confound your enemies” privately and publicly, and through our faithfulness our enemies’ shame will be demonstrated and “made manifest” (D&C 71:7). There are many things to unpack from this verse alone in how the Lord posits “enemies” and “shame,” but is this verse as simple as it sounds? There are many assumptions that we make in our interpretations that are unwittingly culturally informed. Through modern scholarship, we can see another way that we do this in how we approach the Joseph Smith Translation of the Bible. Was Joseph’s “translation” an actual translation? Did Joseph borrow from modern sources? Was it a combination of both?
A verse-by-verse study of Doctrine and Covenants 71-75, revelations regarding work on the Joseph Smith Translation of the Bible, an explanation of 1 Corinthians 7:14, and the callings of bishops and missionaries. This lesson focuses on defending the faith, combatting falsehood, knowing our carrying capacity, being wise stewards, judging our rejectors, mixed-faith marriages, scriptural interpretation, and more. The discussion of D&C 71 is particularly relevant for those in faith crisis, and the study of D&C 74 is intended primarily for any whose spouse has lost their faith. Time stamps: - Historical background of D&C 71 - 2:34 - Study of D&C 71 - 6:35 - Study of D&C 73 - 56:48 - Study of D&C 72 - 1:07:12 - Study of D&C 75 - 1:43:04 - Study of D&C 74 - 2:09:37
A verse-by-verse study of Doctrine and Covenants 30-36, a series of revelations calling several individuals to a variety of missions. This lesson focuses on fears, family burdens, missionary blessings, true empathy, identifying those who are prepared for the gospel, "threshing" the nations, the Joseph Smith Translation, being bound by covenants, and more. Time stamps: - Study of D&C 30 - 6:17 - Study of D&C 31 - 31:34 - Study of D&C 32 - 1:13:41 - Study of D&C 33 - 1:32:30 - Study of D&C 34 - 1:59:51 - Study of D&C 35 - 2:12:32 - Study of D&C 36 - 3:09:33
Jay and Jon discuss the Joseph Smith Translation of the Bible, the gathering to Ohio, James Covel and more
Show Notes: D&C 29 Quotes and Notes To enroll in an institute class, go to https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/si/institute?lang=eng 00:34 – Christ will prevail. 07:31 – The background to this section is the Joseph Smith Translation. 12:51 – The name of Christ: I Am that I Am. 21:21 – God promises to gatherContinue Reading The post Ep 96 | D&C 29, Come Follow Me (Mar 22-28) appeared first on LDS Scripture Teachings.
Follow Him: A Come, Follow Me Podcast featuring Hank Smith & John Bytheway
Dr. Kerry Muhlestein continues to discuss the restoration of the New and Everlasting Covenant, and they discuss the importance of personal revelation and corporal revelation. Hiram Page (who marries a Whitmer) has proclaimed he is having revelations for the entire Church. Emma's confirmation is disturbed by riotous crowds, and the Joseph Smith Translation begins with Moses 1. The JST process is vastly different from the Book of Mormon translation and the word transformation (think: transfiguration). Join us as we discuss the sacrament, the Abrahamic Covenant, revelation, transformation, and how the Tabernacle Choir can be like a seer stone.Shownotes: followhim.coInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/followhimpodcast/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/followhimpodcast
Moses 1 constitutes a self-contained literary unit and prologue to the Joseph Smith Translation of the Bible, demarcated by an inclusio. The Latin word inclusio (literally, an “inclosing” or “closing-in”) serves as “a technical term for a passage of scripture in which the opening phrase or idea is repeated, paraphrased, or otherwise returned to at the close.” The post Essay #42: Moses 1 in Its Ancient Context: “The Words of God” (Moses 1:1–7, 35, 40–42) first appeared on The Interpreter Foundation.
Moses 1 constitutes a self-contained literary unit and prologue to the Joseph Smith Translation of the Bible, demarcated by an inclusio. The Latin word inclusio (literally, an “inclosing” or “closing-in”) serves as “a technical term for a passage of scripture in which the opening phrase or idea is repeated, paraphrased, or otherwise returned to at the close.” The post Essay #42: Moses 1 in Its Ancient Context: “The Words of God” (Moses 1:1–7, 35, 40–42) first appeared on The Interpreter Foundation.
Episode Twenty Five: The Joseph Smith Translation of the Bible: Joseph Smith Jr. had been raised in a Bible-reading family amid a Bible-fearing culture. Of course it was an integral part of his life. In the course of translating the Book of Mormon he learned that many plain and precious truths had been taken from the Bible and must needs be restored, and that is our story of this episode of History of the Saints. Scholars: Kent Jackson
You can listen to or download the October 11 broadcast of the Interpreter Radio Show below. It will also be included in our podcast feed (https://interpreterfoundation.org/feeds/podcast). The hosts were Terry Hutchinson, John Gee and Kevin Christensen. In this episode, our hosts reviewed recent publications on the nature of the Joseph Smith Translation. The second portion […] The post Interpreter Radio Show — October 11, 2020 first appeared on The Interpreter Foundation.
You can listen to or download the October 11 broadcast of the Interpreter Radio Show below. It will also be included in our podcast feed (https://interpreterfoundation.org/feeds/podcast). The hosts were Terry Hutchinson, John Gee and Kevin Christensen. In this episode, our hosts reviewed recent publications on the nature of the Joseph Smith Translation. The second portion […] The post Interpreter Radio Show — October 11, 2020 first appeared on The Interpreter Foundation.
In this article, we digress from the direct discussion of Enoch’s sermon on the ordinances to discuss the corresponding subject of the relationship between baptism, as revealed in the beginning to Adam and Eve, and the later institution of the Old Testament ordinance of circumcision through God’s command to Abraham. A neglected passage in the Joseph Smith Translation and an often criticized verse in the Book of Mormon give interesting insights on these topics. The post Insight #018: “Out of the Waters of Judah” (1 Nephi 20:1; JST Genesis 17:3–7) first appeared on The Interpreter Foundation.
In this article, we digress from the direct discussion of Enoch’s sermon on the ordinances to discuss the corresponding subject of the relationship between baptism, as revealed in the beginning to Adam and Eve, and the later institution of the Old Testament ordinance of circumcision through God’s command to Abraham. A neglected passage in the Joseph Smith Translation and an often criticized verse in the Book of Mormon give interesting insights on these topics. The post Insight #018: “Out of the Waters of Judah” (1 Nephi 20:1; JST Genesis 17:3–7) first appeared on The Interpreter Foundation.
How is Nephi’s praying vocally from a garden tower by a public highway different from the Zoramites praying from their Rameumptom? Did Nephi quote the Joseph Smith Translation when speaking about Moses parting the Red Sea? What is the true meaning of “sealing powers?” The post Helaman 7-12 appeared first on Talking to Mormons.
How is Nephi’s praying vocally from a garden tower by a public highway different from the Zoramites praying from their Rameumptom? Did Nephi quote the Joseph Smith Translation when speaking about Moses parting the Red Sea? What is the true meaning of “sealing powers?” The post Helaman 7-12 appeared first on Talking to Mormons.
For the Latter-day Saint Perspectives Podcast’s fourth season, we will be highlighting chapters from the much-anticipated volume, Producing Ancient Scripture: Joseph Smith’s Translation Projects in the Development of Mormon Christianity edited by Michael Hubbard MacKay, Mark Ashurst-McGee, and Brian M. Hauglid. In anticipation for our fourth-year launch on September 16, 2020, we will be rereleasing interviews with chapter authors. This week’s feature first aired as Episode 55. In our discussion, Dr. Thomas A. Wayment covers his research for his chapter “A Recovered Resource: The Use of Adam Clarke’s Bible Commentary in Joseph Smith’s Bible Translation.” Be sure to listen through the end credits to hear information about our new show feature “Comments and Questions from Readers,” which provides opportunities for listeners to submit content for future episodes as well as to receive gift cards and free books. From episode 55: In this episode, Laura Harris Hales visits with Thomas Wayment, Latter-day Saint Perspectives Podcast’s guest on episode one, in part two of our special first anniversary double episode on the Joseph Smith Translation to discuss some impressive findings regarding Joseph Smith’s Bible translation process. Dr. Wayment is currently a professor of Greek at BYU. He earned his BA in Classics from the University of California at Riverside then completed a PhD in New Testament studies at Claremont Graduate University. Known primarily as a New Testament scholar, Dr. Wayment has also written extensively on the Joseph Smith Translation. He became fascinated with the document early in his biblical studies and that interest has never really fizzled. In his recent studies, Wayment found an interesting connection between the JST and a biblical commentary well-known in the 19th-century, especially in Methodist circles. Adam Clarke, a British theologian, took almost 40 years to complete his comprehensive tome, published as The New Testament of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. The text carefully printed from the most correct copies of the present Authorized Version. Including the marginal readings and parallel texts. With a Commentary and Critical Notes. Clarke’s commentary became a primary theological resource for nearly two centuries. New research by Michael Hubbard Mackay has uncovered a statement indicating that Joseph Smith had access to a copy of Clarke’s Bible commentary. When Wayment compared Joseph’s translation of the KJV Bible to Clarke’s commentary, he realized that Smith used it in the translation process because of the marked similarities he found between entries in the commentary and changes in Joseph’s KJV Bible. Listen in as Dr. Wayment shares what he believes this indicates about how the Prophet viewed the translation process and what it could mean for how we approach the KJV Bible and the JST. Download Transcript
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Also, if you are grateful for Dr. Ritner's time and expertise with this podcast, please email him and express your gratitude!!! ============ Part 1: Dr. Ritner's story, the historical context for the Book of Abraham, and Facsimile 1 https://youtu.be/ORNYUyHg3pY Part 2: Facsimiles 2 & 3 https://youtu.be/df4flxToFvM Part 3: The Abraham Egyptian Papers, return of the "lost" papyrus, and an in-depth discussion of LDS Book of Abraham Apologetics Series Description: For more than a century Joseph Smith's Book of Abraham "translation" has been revered as holy scripture by devout Mormons, and denounced by all credible non-LDS Egyptologists as a 100% erroneous translation -- a combination of Joseph Smith's imagination and some plagiarism (much like the Book of Mormon, the Joseph Smith Translation of the Bible, and the Mormon temple ceremony. The first major scholarly analysis and critique of the Book of Abraham by world-class Egyptologists came in 1912 and was published in the New York Times. Of course this article was neither appropriately considered nor adequately addressed by LDS church leadership, and ultimately the issue faded from LDS church membership consciousness for several more decades. Beginning in 1966 with the rediscovery of the core Book of Abraham papyri fragments found in the archives of the New York Metropolitan Museum of Art (that were thought to have been lost in the 1871 Great Chicago Fire), Mormon apologists such as Hugh Nibley, John Gee, Daniel C. Peterson, Kerry Muhlestein, Michael D. Rhodes, etc. have attempted to employ apologetic tactics to rescue the Book of Abraham from a total loss of credibility - once credible translations of the papyrus demonstrated undeniably that Joseph Smith's "translation" was 100% inaccurate, and in fact, had nothing to do with Abraham at all. In fact, the papyri were dated to be written over 1500 years after the time Abraham would have lived. For decades questioning, doubting, and non-believing Mormons have engaged with Mormon apologists like Nibley, Gee, Muhlestein, and Rhodes to determine the historicity and legitimacy of the Book of Abraham - with the credibility of Joseph Smith and the LDS church restoration hanging in the balance. In spite of the LDS church's century-long efforts to either hide or convolute the issues surrounding the Book of Abraham, many Mormons have lost their faith and left the church over the Book of Abraham, as it is often listed as one of the primary reasons that Mormons lose their faith. While many orthodox, doubting, and post-Mormons have heard the opinions of pseudo-Egyptologists/Book of Abraham apologists like John Gee, Kerry Muhlestein, and Michael D. Rhodes, few Mormons or post-Mormons have actually heard the opinions of a legitimate, world-class Egyptologist about the historicity and credibility of the Book of Abraham - until today. Today, as a joint production of Mormon Stories Podcast and Radio Free Mormon podcast, we interview Dr. Robert Ritner. Dr. Ritner is Professor of Egyptology at the Oriental Institute of the University of Chicago and was from 1991-1996 the first Marilyn M. Simpson Assistant Professor of Egyptology at Yale University. Dr. Ritner is the author of over 100 publications on Egyptian religion, magic, medicine, language and literature, as well as social and political history. He has lectured extensively on each of these topics throughout the United States, Europe and Egypt. Ritner has led Oriental Institute tours of Egypt for 30 years. He is also the author of The Joseph Smith Egyptian Papyri: A Complete Edition, and an essay entitled “Translation and Historicity of the Book of Abraham” — A Response - written as a response to the LDS church's gospel topics essay on the Book of Abraham, which is deeply problematic according to Dr. Ritner. In this three-part sit-down with Dr. Ritner, we will discuss his upbringing in Houston, Texas and his scholarly background and the events that led to him becoming interested in the Book of Abraham. We will provide a contextualizing history to the Book of Abraham story, and discuss in-depth Joseph Smith's completely erroneous translation of Facsimiles 1-3 from the papyrus. We explore the emergence of the Abraham Egyptian Papers in the mid 1960s, along with the discovery of the "lost" Book of Abraham papyrus. We end this series by exploring some of the seemingly unscholarly and disingenuous tactics used by Book of Abraham apologists John Gee, Kerry Muhlestein, and Michael D. Rhodes to try to bolster belief in the Book of Abraham. Finally, a HUGE thanks to Bruce MacArthur for making this interview possible. Also, a MASSIVE thanks to RFM for co-hosting, Bill Reel for all of his great work over the years, along with all of the amazing scholars who helped me/us prepare for this interview, including: Mike Brown of the Mormon Stories Truth Claims essays, MormonThink, Jeremy Runnells and the CES Letter, Dan Vogel, Brent Metcalfe, Letter for my Wife, MormonInfoGraphics.com, this super cool video, and much much more content than I could ever fully list here. URGENT: Dr. Ritner is facing kidney failure and is in need of a living donor to secure his life and continued research. If you can help, please contact Dana McClain, Northwestern Medicine Transplant Coordinator, 312-695-0828. Living donors save lives!
For the Latter-day Saint Perspectives Podcast’s fourth season, we will be highlighting chapters from the much-anticipated volume, Producing Ancient Scripture: Joseph Smith’s Translation Projects in the Development of Mormon Christianity edited by Michael Hubbard MacKay, Mark Ashurst-McGee, and Brian M. Hauglid. In anticipation for our fourth-year launch on September 16, 2020, we will be rereleasing interviews with chapter authors. This week’s feature first aired as Episode 55. In our discussion, Dr. Thomas A. Wayment covers his research for his chapter “A Recovered Resource: The Use of Adam Clarke’s Bible Commentary in Joseph Smith’s Bible Translation.” Be sure to listen through the end credits to hear information about our new show feature “Comments and Questions from Readers,” which provides opportunities for listeners to submit content for future episodes as well as to receive gift cards and free books. From episode 55: In this episode, Laura Harris Hales visits with Thomas Wayment, Latter-day Saint Perspectives Podcast’s guest on episode one, in part two of our special first anniversary double episode on the Joseph Smith Translation to discuss some impressive findings regarding Joseph Smith’s Bible translation process. Dr. Wayment is currently a professor of Greek at BYU. He earned his BA in Classics from the University of California at Riverside then completed a PhD in New Testament studies at Claremont Graduate University. Known primarily as a New Testament scholar, Dr. Wayment has also written extensively on the Joseph Smith Translation. He became fascinated with the document early in his biblical studies and that interest has never really fizzled. In his recent studies, Wayment found an interesting connection between the JST and a biblical commentary well-known in the 19th-century, especially in Methodist circles. Adam Clarke, a British theologian, took almost 40 years to complete his comprehensive tome, published as The New Testament of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. The text carefully printed from the most correct copies of the present Authorized Version. Including the marginal readings and parallel texts. With a Commentary and Critical Notes. Clarke’s commentary became a primary theological resource for nearly two centuries. New research by Michael Hubbard Mackay has uncovered a statement indicating that Joseph Smith had access to a copy of Clarke’s Bible commentary. When Wayment compared Joseph’s translation of the KJV Bible to Clarke’s commentary, he realized that Smith used it in the translation process because of the marked similarities he found between entries in the commentary and changes in Joseph’s KJV Bible. Listen in as Dr. Wayment shares what he believes this indicates about how the Prophet viewed the translation process and what it could mean for how we approach the KJV Bible and the JST. Download Transcript Extra Resources: Producing Ancient Scripture
URGENT: Dr. Ritner is facing kidney failure and is in need of a living donor to secure his life and continued research. If you can help, please contact Dana McClain, Northwestern Medicine Transplant Coordinator, 312-695-0828. Living donors save lives! Also, if you are grateful for Dr. Ritner's time and expertise with this podcast, please email him and express your gratitude!!! ============ For more than a century Joseph Smith's Book of Abraham "translation" has been revered as holy scripture by devout Mormons, and denounced by all credible non-LDS Egyptologists as a 100% erroneous translation -- a combination of Joseph Smith's imagination and some plagiarism (much like the Book of Mormon, the Joseph Smith Translation of the Bible, and the Mormon temple ceremony. The first major scholarly analysis and critique of the Book of Abraham by world-class Egyptologists came in 1912 and was published in the New York Times. Of course this article was neither appropriately considered nor adequately addressed by LDS church leadership, and ultimately the issue faded from LDS church membership consciousness for several more decades. Beginning in 1966 with the rediscovery of the core Book of Abraham papyri fragments found in the archives of the New York Metropolitan Museum of Art (that were thought to have been lost in the 1871 Great Chicago Fire), Mormon apologists such as Hugh Nibley, John Gee, Daniel C. Peterson, Kerry Muhlestein, Michael D. Rhodes, etc. have attempted to employ apologetic tactics to rescue the Book of Abraham from a total loss of credibility - once credible translations of the papyrus demonstrated undeniably that Joseph Smith's "translation" was 100% inaccurate, and in fact, had nothing to do with Abraham at all. In fact, the papyri were dated to be written over 1500 years after the time Abraham would have lived. For decades questioning, doubting, and non-believing Mormons have engaged with Mormon apologists like Nibley, Gee, Muhlestein, and Rhodes to determine the historicity and legitimacy of the Book of Abraham - with the credibility of Joseph Smith and the LDS church restoration hanging in the balance. In spite of the LDS church's century-long efforts to either hide or convolute the issues surrounding the Book of Abraham, many Mormons have lost their faith and left the church over the Book of Abraham, as it is often listed as one of the primary reasons that Mormons lose their faith. While many orthodox, doubting, and post-Mormons have heard the opinions of pseudo-Egyptologists/Book of Abraham apologists like John Gee, Kerry Muhlestein, and Michael D. Rhodes, few Mormons or post-Mormons have actually heard the opinions of a legitimate, world-class Egyptologist about the historicity and credibility of the Book of Abraham - until today. Today, as a joint production of Mormon Stories Podcast and Radio Free Mormon podcast, we interview Dr. Robert Ritner. Dr. Ritner is Professor of Egyptology at the Oriental Institute of the University of Chicago and was from 1991-1996 the first Marilyn M. Simpson Assistant Professor of Egyptology at Yale University. Dr. Ritner is the author of over 100 publications on Egyptian religion, magic, medicine, language and literature, as well as social and political history. He has lectured extensively on each of these topics throughout the United States, Europe and Egypt. Ritner has led Oriental Institute tours of Egypt for 30 years. He is also the author of The Joseph Smith Egyptian Papyri: A Complete Edition, and an essay entitled “Translation and Historicity of the Book of Abraham” — A Response - written as a response to the LDS church's gospel topics essay on the Book of Abraham, which is deeply problematic according to Dr. Ritner. In this three-part sit-down with Dr. Ritner, we will discuss his upbringing in Houston, Texas and his scholarly background and the events that led to him becoming interested in the Book of Abraham. We will provide a contextualizing history to the Book of Abraham story, and discuss in-depth Joseph Smith's completely erroneous translation of Facsimiles 1-3 from the papyrus. We explore the emergence of the Abraham Egyptian Papers in the mid 1960s, along with the discovery of the "lost" Book of Abraham papyrus. We end this series by exploring some of the seemingly unscholarly and disingenuous tactics used by Book of Abraham apologists John Gee, Kerry Muhlestein, and Michael D. Rhodes to try to bolster belief in the Book of Abraham. Finally, a HUGE thanks to Bruce MacArthur for making this interview possible. Also, a MASSIVE thanks to RFM for co-hosting, Bill Reel for all of his great work over the years, along with all of the amazing scholars who helped me/us prepare for this interview, including: Mike Brown of the Mormon Stories Truth Claims essays, MormonThink, Jeremy Runnells and the CES Letter, Dan Vogel, Brent Metcalfe, Letter for my Wife, MormonInfoGraphics.com, this super cool video, and much much more content than I could ever fully list here. URGENT: Dr. Ritner is facing kidney failure and is in need of a living donor to secure his life and continued research. If you can help, please contact Dana McClain, Northwestern Medicine Transplant Coordinator, 312-695-0828. Living donors save lives!
URGENT: Dr. Ritner is facing kidney failure and is in need of a living donor to secure his life and continued research. If you can help, please contact Dana McClain, Northwestern Medicine Transplant Coordinator, 312-695-0828. Living donors save lives! ============ For more than a century Joseph Smith's Book of Abraham "translation" has been revered as holy scripture by devout Mormons, and denounced by all credible Egyptologists as a 100% erroneous translation -- a combination of Joseph Smith's imagination and some plagiarism (much like the Book of Mormon, the Joseph Smith Translation of the Bible, and the Mormon temple ceremony. The first major scholarly analysis and critique of the Book of Abraham by world-class Egyptologists came in 1912 and was published in the New York Times. Of course this article was neither appropriately considered nor adequately addressed by LDS church leadership, and ultimately the issue faded from LDS church membership consciousness for several more decades. Beginning in 1966 with the rediscovery of the core Book of Abraham papyri fragments found in the archives of the New York Metropolitan Museum of Art (that were thought to have been lost in the 1871 Great Chicago Fire), Mormon apologists such as Hugh Nibley, John Gee, Daniel C. Peterson, Kerry Muhlestein, Michael D. Rhodes, and Brian Hauglid have attempted to employ apologetic tactics to rescue the Book of Abraham from a total loss of credibility - once credible translations of the papyrus demonstrated undeniably that Joseph Smith's "translation" was 100% inaccurate, and in fact, had nothing to do with Abraham at all. In fact, the papyri were dated to be written over 1500 years after the time Abraham would have lived. For decades questioning, doubting, and non-believing Mormons have engaged with Mormon apologists like Nibley, Gee, Muhlestein, and Rhodes to determine the historicity and legitimacy of the Book of Abraham - with the credibility of Joseph Smith and the LDS church restoration hanging in the balance. In spite of the LDS church's century-long efforts to either hide or convolute the issues surrounding the Book of Abraham, many Mormons have lost their faith and left the church over the Book of Abraham, as it is often listed as one of the primary reasons that Mormons lose their faith. While many orthodox, doubting, and post-Mormons have heard the opinions of pseudo-Egyptologists/Book of Abraham apologists like John Gee, Kerry Muhlestein, and Michael D. Rhodes, few Mormons or post-Mormons have actually heard the opinions of a legitimate, world-class Egyptologist about the historicity and credibility of the Book of Abraham - until today. Today, as a joint production of Mormon Stories Podcast and Radio Free Mormon podcast, we interview Dr. Robert Ritner. Dr. Ritner is Professor of Egyptology at the Oriental Institute of the University of Chicago and was from 1991-1996 the first Marilyn M. Simpson Assistant Professor of Egyptology at Yale University. Dr. Ritner is the author of over 100 publications on Egyptian religion, magic, medicine, language and literature, as well as social and political history. He has lectured extensively on each of these topics throughout the United States, Europe and Egypt. Ritner has led Oriental Institute tours of Egypt for 30 years. He is also the author of The Joseph Smith Egyptian Papyri: A Complete Edition, and an essay entitled “Translation and Historicity of the Book of Abraham” — A Response - written as a response to the LDS church's gospel topics essay on the Book of Abraham, which is deeply problematic according to Dr. Ritner. In today's sit-down with Dr. Ritner, we will discuss his upbringing in Houston, Texas, his scholarly background and the events that led to him becoming interested in the Book of Abraham. We will provide a contextualizing history to the Book of Abraham story, and discuss in-depth Joseph Smith's completely erroneous translation of Facsimile 1 from the Book of Abraham. We end this episode by beginning our exploration of some of the seemingly unscholarly, and disingenuous tactics used by Book of Abraham apologists John Gee and Terry Muhlestein to try to bloster belief in the Book of Abraham. This episode represents the first in a series of interviews with Dr. Ritner. In future episodes we will discuss the other Facsimillies, the Kirtland Egyptian Papers, the "cataylist" theory for the Book of Abraham, and finally a more in-depth look at the history of unscholarly, disingenuous, and utterly wasteful Book of Abraham apologetics by John Gee, Kerry Muhlestein, and Michael D. Rhodes. We also plan to coordinate a direct discussion between Dr. John Gee and Dr. Robert Ritner (if John Gee accepts the invitation...if not...we have other plans). Finally, a HUGE thanks to Bruce MacArthur for making this interview possible. Also, a MASSIVE thanks to RFM for co-hosting, Bill Reel for all of his great work over the years, along with all of the amazing scholars who helped me/us prepare for this interview, including: Mike Brown of the Mormon Stories Truth Claims essays, Dan Vogel, Brent Metcalfe, MormonThink, Jeremy Runnells and the CES Letter, Letter for my Wife, MormonInfoGraphics.com, this super cool video, and much much more content than I could ever fully list here. URGENT: Dr. Ritner is facing kidney failure and is in need of a living donor to secure his life and continued research. If you can help, please contact Dana McClain, Northwestern Medicine Transplant Coordinator, 312-695-0828. Living donors save lives!
In their long anticipated and recently released research paper, Haley Wilson-Lemmon and BYU Professor Thomas Wayment demonstrate beyond a reasonable doubt that Joseph Smith used Adam Clarke’s Bible Commentary in his production of the Joseph Smith Translation of the Bible. RFM walks us through each and every one of the seventeen examples set forth in […] The post Radio Free Mormon: 187: “Borrowed Robes”–The JST’s Reliance on the Adam Clarke Bible Commentary appeared first on Mormon Discussions Podcasts - Full Lineup.
In their long anticipated and recently released research paper, Haley Wilson-Lemmon and BYU Professor Thomas Wayment demonstrate beyond a reasonable doubt that Joseph Smith used Adam Clarke’s Bible Commentary in his production of the Joseph Smith Translation of the Bible. RFM walks us through each and every one of the seventeen examples set forth in […]
In their long anticipated and recently released research paper, Haley Wilson-Lemmon and BYU Professor Thomas Wayment demonstrate beyond a reasonable doubt that Joseph Smith used Adam Clarke’s Bible Commentary in his production of the Joseph Smith Translation of the Bible. RFM walks us through each and every one of the seventeen examples set forth in […] The post Radio Free Mormon: 187: “Borrowed Robes”–The JST’s Reliance on the Adam Clarke Bible Commentary appeared first on Radio Free Mormon.
Over the past several decades. credible Mormon-themed scholarship has determined beyond any reasonable doubt that Joseph Smith's claim have special powers to "translate" ancient languages was not true, and that Joseph often relied on plagiarism to produce his "revelations." Up until recently, at least three clear instances of false translation by Joseph Smith were widely known: the Book of Mormon, the Book of Abraham, and the Kinderhook Plates. In the summer of 2015, something truly remarkable happened. A BYU undergraduate, along with her professor, discovered a fourth example of false translation, and yet another example of plagiarism on the part of Joseph Smith - this time in the canonized "Joseph Smith Translation" of the Holy Bible (found in modern LDS scripture) Join me and scholar Haley Wilson Lemmón today as we discuss this groundbreaking research she conducted at BYU, along side professor Thomas A. Wayment -- as together they discovered literally hundreds of instances where Joseph Smith plagiarized portions of the Joseph Smith "Translation" of the Bible directly from Adam Clarke's Bible Commentary. Today's story includes: Haley's early years growing up as a highly devout Mormon girl and young woman who struggled significantly with undiagnosed religious anxiety (possibly scrupulosity). Haley's LDS mission to Panama. Haley's discovery of Joseph Smith's plagiarism, as she was working as a BYU undergraduate research assistant under Dr. Thomas A. Wayment. Haley's deep struggle with her Mormon faith once she began studying the authenticity of Mormon scripture and other truth claims. Haley's troubling brush with the BYU Honor Code Office, which almost resulted in her being expelled from BYU. How Haley's name was almost removed from the publishing of her research with Dr. Wayment. A review of Haley's current views on LDS Church truth claims. As a part of this interview, we will be discussing in-depth the article/chapter "A Recently Recovered Source: The Use of Adam Clarke’s Bible Commentary in Joseph Smith’s Bible Translation" that she co-authored with Thomas A. Wayment, which recently appeared in the newly released book "Producing Ancient Scripture: Joseph Smith's Translation Projects in the Development of Mormon Christianity," edited by Michael MacKay, Mark Ashurst-McGee, and Brian M. Hauglid.
Faith Crisis and Reconstruction Podcast Series, Episode 8: Book of Abraham and JST In this episode, I discuss apologetic aspects of the Book of Abraham (BoA) and Joseph Smith Translation. The LDS Gospel Topics Essay on the Book of Abraham provides background on the papyrus that Joseph Smith used to translate the Book of Abraham. […]
If there's one thing Joseph enjoyed doing, it was twisting scriptures! Whether it was expressing the epitome of humility by retroactively adding himself to past prophesies, or just creating scriptures from nothingness, good ol' Addendum Boy couldn't seem to help himself. His three-year project to replace some of the "plain and precious things" that had been lost from the Bible has become one of the most well-known examples of that pastime. Join us as we chat a little bit about the background and outcomes of the "Joseph Smith Translation" of the Bible.
"Alma & Melchizedek" - A possible Feast of Trumpets stage for Alma and Amulek - Why Alma talks of the Melchizedek Priesthood in Ammonihah - The Higher & Lower Laws - "Casting Off" sins - Melchizedek in the Joseph Smith Translation and Doctrine & Covenants - Melchizedek as a title - Prince of Peace Come Follow Me Book of Mormon LDS Alma
Covered a ton of topics including the consistency of John's witness with the Synoptic Gospels regarding the day of the Crucifixion -Friday-, modalism in the Book of Mormon and the -Joseph Smith Translation,- some thoughts on my upcoming sermon from Romans 4-25 -this coming Sunday-, and some loose ends on materials relevant to Ken Wilson's dissertation and the early Fathers.
There are times where the Joseph Smith Translation makes a small (but important) difference in the text. And then there are times like the examples in today's lesson, where the Joseph Smith Translation completely changes the frame of reference and with the change of a single word, can teach a doctrinally significant lesson. When the JST changes "committeth" to "continueth" in 1 John 3, it is one of those times. Listen to today's episode as we discuss that change and WHY it's so important. Get all the resources mentioned in this episode at https://www.everydayconversion.com/122 --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/everydayconversion/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/everydayconversion/support
Between 1830 and 1833, Joseph worked on revisions to the Bible. Known as the Joseph Smith Translation or Inspired Version of the Bible, this effort was a commandment from the Lord and something that is...
What’s the deal with the Joseph Smith translation of the Bible? In this episode, Bryan, Lindsay, and Christopher explore what Joseph Smith did and what he might have been trying to accomplish when he attempted his own translation of the Old and New Testaments. Listen to this episode here.
What’s the deal with the Joseph Smith translation of the Bible? In this episode, Bryan, Lindsay, and Christopher explore what Joseph Smith did and what he might have been trying to accomplish when he attempted his own translation of the Old and New Testaments. Listen to this episode here.
What’s the deal with the Joseph Smith translation of the Bible? In this episode, Bryan, Lindsay, and Christopher explore what Joseph Smith did and what he might have been trying to accomplish when he attempted his own translation of the Old and New Testaments. Listen to this episode here.
What’s the deal with the Joseph Smith translation of the Bible? In this episode, Bryan, Lindsay, and Christopher explore what Joseph Smith did and what he might have been trying to accomplish when he attempted his own translation of the Old and New Testaments. Listen to this episode here.
One of the major undertakings of the prophet Joseph Smith was his translation of the Bible. As a matter of fact, he regarded it as "a branch of his calling" as a prophet. And as you try to read and understand Romans 7, I'll bet you'll be glad he did! In this episode we'll dig more into what the Joseph Smith Translation is, why it's important as well as looking at how it clarifies and corrects Paul's teachings in Romans 7. Questions: 1. Why do you think the Lord commanded Joseph Smith to do a translation of the Bible? 2. How important do you think living prophets and apostles are to help us understand and interpret scripture? Get all the resources mentioned in this episode at https://www.everydayconversion.com/103 --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/everydayconversion/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/everydayconversion/support
What do mummies, papyrus, and a great fire have to do with modern scripture? Join us as we look at the broad meaning of the word translation and how it can be applied to Joseph Smith’s work and the Pearl of Great Price. Changes to the Lord’s Prayer https://www.ucatholic.com/news/pope-francis-approves-changes-to-lords-prayer-gloria-of-italian-missal/ Joseph Smith’s translation of the Lord’s Prayer https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/jst/jst-matt/6.14 Wiki: Joseph Smith’s translation of the Bible https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Smith_Translation_of_the_Bible Gospel topics essay: Translation and Historicity of the Book of Abraham https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/gospel-topics-essays/translation-and-historicity-of-the-book-of-abraham?lang=eng&_r=1 Abraham 3:22-23 https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/pgp/abr/3.22-23?lang=eng#p22 Wiki: Critical appraisal of the Book of Abraham https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_appraisal_of_the_Book_of_Abraham Letters to a Young Mormon (pages 32 and 34), by Adam S. Miller https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/20427135-letters-to-a-young-mormon South Park! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_About_Mormons
Dr. Thomas A. Wayment, professor of Classics at Brigham Young University, has done something remarkable — he has retranslated the New Testament. This new translation from the best available Greek manuscripts, entitled, The New Testament: A Translation for Latter-day Saints(Religious Studies Center, Brigham Young University, 2019), renders the New Testament text into modern English and is sensitive to Latter-day Saint beliefs and practices. It is also readable and accessible for a wide range of readers. The original paragraph structure of the New Testament is restored and highlights features such as quotations, hymns, and poetic passages. New and extensive notes provide alternative translations, commentary on variant manuscript traditions, and historical insights. Where applicable, the Joseph Smith Translation of the Bible has been included, and the notes contain the most complete list of cross-references to New Testament passages in the Book of Mormon and Doctrine and Covenants that has ever been assembled. In our discussion, Dr. Wayment gives us exciting insights into how he translated the New Testament, along with his thoughts on Jesus Christ, the Pauline epistles, the role of women in the early church, and more. It’s a fun and fascinating conversation! Daniel P. Stone holds a PhD in American religious history from Manchester Metropolitan University (United Kingdom) and is the author of William Bickerton: Forgotten Latter Day Prophet (Signature Books, 2018). He has taught history courses at the University of Detroit Mercy and Florida Atlantic University, and currently, he works as a research archivist for a private library/archive in Detroit, Michigan. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Dr. Thomas A. Wayment, professor of Classics at Brigham Young University, has done something remarkable — he has retranslated the New Testament. This new translation from the best available Greek manuscripts, entitled, The New Testament: A Translation for Latter-day Saints(Religious Studies Center, Brigham Young University, 2019), renders the New Testament text into modern English and is sensitive to Latter-day Saint beliefs and practices. It is also readable and accessible for a wide range of readers. The original paragraph structure of the New Testament is restored and highlights features such as quotations, hymns, and poetic passages. New and extensive notes provide alternative translations, commentary on variant manuscript traditions, and historical insights. Where applicable, the Joseph Smith Translation of the Bible has been included, and the notes contain the most complete list of cross-references to New Testament passages in the Book of Mormon and Doctrine and Covenants that has ever been assembled. In our discussion, Dr. Wayment gives us exciting insights into how he translated the New Testament, along with his thoughts on Jesus Christ, the Pauline epistles, the role of women in the early church, and more. It’s a fun and fascinating conversation! Daniel P. Stone holds a PhD in American religious history from Manchester Metropolitan University (United Kingdom) and is the author of William Bickerton: Forgotten Latter Day Prophet (Signature Books, 2018). He has taught history courses at the University of Detroit Mercy and Florida Atlantic University, and currently, he works as a research archivist for a private library/archive in Detroit, Michigan. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Dr. Thomas A. Wayment, professor of Classics at Brigham Young University, has done something remarkable — he has retranslated the New Testament. This new translation from the best available Greek manuscripts, entitled, The New Testament: A Translation for Latter-day Saints(Religious Studies Center, Brigham Young University, 2019), renders the New Testament text into modern English and is sensitive to Latter-day Saint beliefs and practices. It is also readable and accessible for a wide range of readers. The original paragraph structure of the New Testament is restored and highlights features such as quotations, hymns, and poetic passages. New and extensive notes provide alternative translations, commentary on variant manuscript traditions, and historical insights. Where applicable, the Joseph Smith Translation of the Bible has been included, and the notes contain the most complete list of cross-references to New Testament passages in the Book of Mormon and Doctrine and Covenants that has ever been assembled. In our discussion, Dr. Wayment gives us exciting insights into how he translated the New Testament, along with his thoughts on Jesus Christ, the Pauline epistles, the role of women in the early church, and more. It’s a fun and fascinating conversation! Daniel P. Stone holds a PhD in American religious history from Manchester Metropolitan University (United Kingdom) and is the author of William Bickerton: Forgotten Latter Day Prophet (Signature Books, 2018). He has taught history courses at the University of Detroit Mercy and Florida Atlantic University, and currently, he works as a research archivist for a private library/archive in Detroit, Michigan. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Dr. Thomas A. Wayment, professor of Classics at Brigham Young University, has done something remarkable — he has retranslated the New Testament. This new translation from the best available Greek manuscripts, entitled, The New Testament: A Translation for Latter-day Saints(Religious Studies Center, Brigham Young University, 2019), renders the New Testament text into modern English and is sensitive to Latter-day Saint beliefs and practices. It is also readable and accessible for a wide range of readers. The original paragraph structure of the New Testament is restored and highlights features such as quotations, hymns, and poetic passages. New and extensive notes provide alternative translations, commentary on variant manuscript traditions, and historical insights. Where applicable, the Joseph Smith Translation of the Bible has been included, and the notes contain the most complete list of cross-references to New Testament passages in the Book of Mormon and Doctrine and Covenants that has ever been assembled. In our discussion, Dr. Wayment gives us exciting insights into how he translated the New Testament, along with his thoughts on Jesus Christ, the Pauline epistles, the role of women in the early church, and more. It’s a fun and fascinating conversation! Daniel P. Stone holds a PhD in American religious history from Manchester Metropolitan University (United Kingdom) and is the author of William Bickerton: Forgotten Latter Day Prophet (Signature Books, 2018). He has taught history courses at the University of Detroit Mercy and Florida Atlantic University, and currently, he works as a research archivist for a private library/archive in Detroit, Michigan. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Dr. Thomas A. Wayment, professor of Classics at Brigham Young University, has done something remarkable — he has retranslated the New Testament. This new translation from the best available Greek manuscripts, entitled, The New Testament: A Translation for Latter-day Saints(Religious Studies Center, Brigham Young University, 2019), renders the New Testament text into modern English and is sensitive to Latter-day Saint beliefs and practices. It is also readable and accessible for a wide range of readers. The original paragraph structure of the New Testament is restored and highlights features such as quotations, hymns, and poetic passages. New and extensive notes provide alternative translations, commentary on variant manuscript traditions, and historical insights. Where applicable, the Joseph Smith Translation of the Bible has been included, and the notes contain the most complete list of cross-references to New Testament passages in the Book of Mormon and Doctrine and Covenants that has ever been assembled. In our discussion, Dr. Wayment gives us exciting insights into how he translated the New Testament, along with his thoughts on Jesus Christ, the Pauline epistles, the role of women in the early church, and more. It’s a fun and fascinating conversation! Daniel P. Stone holds a PhD in American religious history from Manchester Metropolitan University (United Kingdom) and is the author of William Bickerton: Forgotten Latter Day Prophet (Signature Books, 2018). He has taught history courses at the University of Detroit Mercy and Florida Atlantic University, and currently, he works as a research archivist for a private library/archive in Detroit, Michigan. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
The Joseph Smith Translation of Luke 12 make a significant change to some information Jesus provides his apostles. Whereas the KJV has Christ talk about a lord who could come in either the second watch...
A few months ago, Dr. Thomas Wayment made headlines in the Mormon community when he came out with news that the Joseph Smith Translation of the Bible relied heavily on Adam Clarke's Bible Commentary. https://youtu.be/UOvu0O88sXM Thom: A student assistant of mine, Haley Wilson-Lemmon, was working for me about four years ago now. And I've worked on the JST my whole career. It's been interesting because it makes a claim to originality, at least modern Mormons claim that. And so, I've been probing it throughout my career. And, I had begun to think that Joseph Smith used a variety of sources, but I hadn't nailed it down. And so, I said to Haley, I think you should take Buck's Theological Dictionary. I think you should take Thomas Scott's Notes and I think you should take Adam Clarke and start comparing it to a series of test passages in the JST and just see what crops up because I'm suspecting there's influence, but I don't know. And she comes back, and we look at the column of Adam Clarke and it's overwhelming. There are some strong parallels. And so, over the course of about 12-14 months, Haley compared every single JST to all of these and we have a massive amount of data, and sure enough it. It's very clear. It's conclusive that Joseph Smith used Adam Clarke. And when I say use, I want to stick by that term. This isn't him simply saying, "Okay, here's three sentences in Clarke. I'm going to copy it out and call that inspiration." It's not that. He has words that come from Clarke that now come into kind of an expanded sentence that Joseph has created. Clarke will recommend flipping the order of verses and Joseph will do that. Weird words like unicorn in Isaiah, Joseph will go to [Clarke] to realize that's not unicorn. And so, he'll add [Clarke]'s statement about it or he'll say, this is re'em. What implications does that have for Latter-day Saints of faith? Thom: That's really been how the conversation has kind of taken life, which in some ways is unfortunate. In some ways it is a good moment for pause. What I see as a scholar is it's confronted a narrative about the JST that people have, that the JST is a moment of absolute revelation. No other influences happened that he was giving us the Bible as it was originally. And if you had that view, it's going to be a hard thing. And, yet as a historian, it's unfortunate. Joseph never made that claim. He never tells us that the Lord commanded him to start it. There is no revelation that currently exists where he is directed or says he was directed to go translate the Bible. We find him recording a commandment to work on Matthew but not Genesis. And so, in this sense, he never canonized it. He never, if you will, said, "This is the original Bible." And during this time, he has another statement that we refer to as a revelation. "Seek ye out learning from the best books." And for heaven's sakes, that's what he's doing it. It's really a practical process. I suspect that there are other sources. I suspect it's not just Clarke and in the coming years, I'll play that hand a little more broadly. But this is him working on the Bible. For the Latter-day Saint who feels confronted by this, we know he studied Hebrew after this. He's trying to engage both his role as prophet, so he owns the text in one sense, but he continually feels like, "I need some training." And Clarke is a really good resource of the day and a modern scholar wouldn't feel that and I don't feel that, but of the day it's very good and I think he comes to trust Clarke. I think later he says, "Well, maybe I could learn Hebrew. And he does some work in Hebrew in Kirtland 1835 period. And I think again, like he went with the Book of Mormon, he went to Luther Bradish, he goes to Charles Anthon and others to say, "Can you help me?" Or, "Can you translate this?" He has a scholarly component in every one of his translations and that to me seems pretty normal. But, maybe to the modern believer it might confront a narra...
Maxwell Institute Conversations are special episodes of the Maxwell Institute Podcast, hosted by Terryl Givens and created in collaboration with Faith Matters Foundation. Audio and video available. A lot has changed for Thomas Wayment since this he sat down for this conversation with Terryl Givens. At the time, Thom was a professor of ancient scripture working on a new translation of the New Testament intended for Latter-day Saints. Now he's teaching classical studies and his translation has been published by the Religious Studies Center and Deseret Book—just in time for Latter-day Saint Sunday school's focus on the New Testament. This conversation focuses on his new translation and other insights from his work in biblical scholarship. About the Guest Thomas A. Wayment is a professor of Classical studies at Brigham Young University, where he previously worked as publications director of the Religious Studies Center and as a professor of ancient scripture. He received his BA in Classics from the University of California at Riverside and his MA and PhD in New Testament studies from the Claremont Graduate School. Dr. Wayment's research interests include the historical life of Jesus, New Testament manuscript traditions, the life of Paul, and the Joseph Smith Translation of the Bible. The post MIConversations #7—Thomas Wayment with Terryl Givens, “Translating a new New Testament” appeared first on Neal A. Maxwell Institute | BYU.
The Interview: There are four books in the New Testament that tell the story of the life and ministry of Jesus. Each one does it quite differently. The gospel of Luke is related to the gospel of Mark—it appears to use Mark as its foundation—but changes Mark’s stories in specific ways and adds many others. Kent Brown spent years teaching and studying the New Testament and especially the gospel of Luke. He has written and published a hefty commentary on it—more than 1,200 pages—that deeply explores every element of Luke’s unique messages, language, theology, and priorities. As part of the BYU New Testament Commentary series, Brown’s book, The Testimony of Luke, offers insights and discoveries unique to the Latter-day Saint culture. In this episode of the LDS Perspective podcast, guest interviewer David A. LeFevre discusses some of these unique elements. As one of the founders of the New Testament Commentary series, Brown shares how the project began, including challenges to getting it off the ground. The Luke volume was the culmination of twenty years of teaching and even more years of research and writing. He chose Luke because of the book’s “flavor,” which he describes as “sweet and deep.” Each volume includes a “rendition” of the text from Greek into English, not to compete with the King James Version, as Brown explains, but providing enrichment through an alternate reading and “a layer of modernity.” Luke portrays a compassionate Christ. For example, he is in Capernaum but makes it to Nain early the next day, a distance of about thirty miles. Brown describes how a woman there was mourning the loss of her only son, but she was a woman of no real consequence, from the world’s perspective. Her tragedy was one that would be soon forgotten, but Jesus woke the disciples in the middle of the night in order to arrive just in time for the funeral procession that was coming out of the city. Jesus has great compassion on this widow, going out of his way to lift her burden. Jesus’ unique stories in Luke focus on money and property, perhaps because those were important to Luke the author before his conversion but became less important through the messages of Jesus. Brown determined to also have a home and family-centric focus in the commentary, taking his lead from Luke’s own efforts to do that. The gospel starts with a family story—Zacharias and Elizabeth and their new son, John—and then continues with another family—Mark, Joseph, and their baby Jesus. The commentary provides ties to Restoration scriptures throughout the volume. Highlighting ties of Lukan stories to the Doctrine and Covenants, including the parable of the widow and the unjust judge and the story of Zacchaeus the tax collector, we see the influence of Luke on that book of modern scripture. The Joseph Smith Translation of the Bible was consulted and used as a doctrinal and historical commentary. Brown’s unique contributions to our understanding of Luke are many, bringing in linguistic, cultural, and theological understanding. The podcast presents insights from the volume, benefitting from Brown’s personal style, passion, and poetic storytelling, though the interested listener will want to pick up the whole volume to get the full benefit. Our Guest: Kent Brown is an emeritus professor of ancient scripture at Brigham Young University and was twice the director of the BYU Jerusalem Center for Near Eastern Studies, as well as the director of FARMS and member of the executive council of the Neal A. Maxwell Institute for Religious Scholarship. He taught at BYU from 1971 to 2008. From 1988 to 1992, he was a member of the board of editors for the Encyclopedia of Mormonism. He has worked on archaeological teams in Egypt, Israel, and Oman, including as a fellow of the American Research Center in Egypt, where he worked on ostraca at the Coptic Museum in Old Cairo. He is the author of the BYU New Testament Commentary volume, The Testimony of Luke,
There are four books in the New Testament that tell the story of the life and ministry of Jesus. Each one does it quite differently. The gospel of Luke is related to the gospel of Mark—it appears to use Mark as its foundation—but changes Mark’s stories in specific ways and adds many others. Kent Brown spent years teaching and studying the New Testament and especially the gospel of Luke. He has written and published a hefty commentary on it—more than 1,200 pages—that deeply explores every element of Luke’s unique messages, language, theology, and priorities. As part of the BYU New Testament Commentary series, Brown’s book, The Testimony of Luke, offers insights and discoveries unique to the Latter-day Saint culture. In this episode of the LDS Perspective podcast, guest interviewer David A. LeFevre discusses some of these unique elements. As one of the founders of the New Testament Commentary series, Brown shares how the project began, including challenges to getting it off the ground. The Luke volume was the culmination of twenty years of teaching and even more years of research and writing. He chose Luke because of the book’s “flavor,” which he describes as “sweet and deep.” Each volume includes a “rendition” of the text from Greek into English, not to compete with the King James Version, as Brown explains, but providing enrichment through an alternate reading and “a layer of modernity.” Luke portrays a compassionate Christ. For example, he is in Capernaum but makes it to Nain early the next day, a distance of about thirty miles. Brown describes how a woman there was mourning the loss of her only son, but she was a woman of no real consequence, from the world’s perspective. Her tragedy was one that would be soon forgotten, but Jesus woke the disciples in the middle of the night in order to arrive just in time for the funeral procession that was coming out of the city. Jesus has great compassion on this widow, going out of his way to lift her burden. Jesus’ unique stories in Luke focus on money and property, perhaps because those were important to Luke the author before his conversion but became less important through the messages of Jesus. Brown determined to also have a home and family-centric focus in the commentary, taking his lead from Luke’s own efforts to do that. The gospel starts with a family story—Zacharias and Elizabeth and their new son, John—and then continues with another family—Mark, Joseph, and their baby Jesus. The commentary provides ties to Restoration scriptures throughout the volume. Highlighting ties of Lukan stories to the Doctrine and Covenants, including the parable of the widow and the unjust judge and the story of Zacchaeus the tax collector, we see the influence of Luke on that book of modern scripture. The Joseph Smith Translation of the Bible was consulted and used as a doctrinal and historical commentary. Brown’s unique contributions to our understanding of Luke are many, bringing in linguistic, cultural, and theological understanding. The podcast presents insights from the volume, benefitting from Brown’s personal style, passion, and poetic storytelling, though the interested listener will want to pick up the whole volume to get the full benefit. Our Guest: Kent Brown is an emeritus professor of ancient scripture at Brigham Young University and was twice the director of the BYU Jerusalem Center for Near Eastern Studies, as well as the director of FARMS and member of the executive council of the Neal A. Maxwell Institute for Religious Scholarship. He taught at BYU from 1971 to 2008. From 1988 to 1992, he was a member of the board of editors for the Encyclopedia of Mormonism. He has worked on archaeological teams in Egypt, Israel, and Oman, including as a fellow of the American Research Center in Egypt, where he worked on ostraca at the Coptic Museum in Old Cairo. He is the author of the BYU New Testament Commentary volume, The Testimony of Luke,
Apologetics Live 11/15/2018 LDS now attempting to shed the term “Mormon” Arguments against anihalationisim?: Annihilationism and Jude 6-7, angels and the wicked undergoing punishment of eternal fire https://carm.org/annihilationism-and-jude-6-7-angels-and-wicked-undergoing-punishment-of-eternal-fire Also see: Is annihilationism true? https://carm.org/is-annihilation-true Question regarding Limited Atonement: Did Jesus equate sin with debt? https://carm.org/did-jesus-equate-sin-with-debt Is sin a legal debt to God? https://carm.org/is-sin-a-legal-debt-... Limited Atonement https://carm.org/limited-atonement Words mean what they mean in context – World https://carm.org/words-mean-what-they-mean-in-context-world Dying with Christ https://carm.org/devotion-dying-christ Words mean what they mean in context – All https://carm.org/words-mean-what-they-mean-in-context-all What does "died to sin" mean? https://carm.org/questions-died-to-sin What is divine healing and is it for today? https://carm.org/is-divine-healing-for-today See more on "King James Onlyism” at https://carm.org/king-james-onlyism Ephesians 1……..Some of these verses are dealt with in "What is predestination and election? “https://carm.org/predestination-and-election See more at: "Unconditional Election” https://carm.org/unconditional-election Recommendation to visit http://www.calvinistcorner.com/ “Mormon words don't mean the same thing.” https://carm.org/mormon-definitions “Joseph Smith boasted that he did more than Jesus to keep a church together.” https://carm.org/joseph-smith-boasted “What Do They Believe” by Andrew R. Rappaport https://strivingforeternity.org/product/what-do-they-believe-book/ The Book of Abraham Papyri and Joseph Smith https://carm.org/book-abraham-papyri-and-joseph-smith Also see more at "The Joseph Smith Translation of the Bible and his false claim to prophethood” https://carm.org/the-joseph-smith-translation-and-his-prophethood To everyone’s surprise, in 1966 the papyri were rediscovered in one of the vault rooms of the New York’s Metropolitan Museum of Art. The Deseret News of Salt Lake City on Nov. 27, 1967, acknowledged the rediscovery of the papyri. Excerpted from https://carm.org/book-abraham-papyri-and-joseph-smith Bill McKeever: http://www.mrm.org/about Sharing the Good News with Mormons http://www.mrm.org/sharing-with-mormons CARM’s website has very valuable documentation concerning The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. (The Mormon Church or L.D.S) at: http://carm.org/mormonism Who are the children of God in the Bible? https://carm.org/who-are-the-children-of-god-in-the-bible Extraordinary and revealing are some of the “Quotes from LDS, (Mormon) Authorities on God” https://carm.org/quotes-from-lds-mormon-authorities-on-god Who were the “sons of God” in Genesis 6? https://carm.org/who-were-sons-of-god-in-genesis The Nephilim are mentioned in Genesis 6. They are often identified with the Anakim of Numbers 13:33 and the Rephaim of Deut. 2:20. Let's take a look. https://carm.org/what-are-nephilim Was Jesus baptized by immersion or sprinkling? https://carm.org/jesus-baptized-sprinkling-or-immersion Does the word baptism mean immersion or sprinkling? https://carm.org/does-word-baptism-mean-immersion-or-sprinkling Is immersion the only way of valid baptism? https://carm.org/questions/about-baptism/immersion-only-way-valid-baptism Feelings of LDS Feelings, gods, and Joseph Smith https://carm.org/feelings-gods-and-joseph-smith A Mormon stays Mormon based on his feelings https://carm.org/lds-stays-mormon-based-on-feelings Christian materials? Basic Christian Doctrine https://carm.org/basic-christian-doctrine and Book Recommendations https://carm.org/book-recommendations Links to TOPICAL articles are provided FOR CHAT GUESTS and PARTICIPANTS TO ACCESS for further and continuing independent study……. This podcast is a ministry of Striving for Eternity and all...
Haley Wilson Lemmon sits down with us today to discuss the Joseph Smith translation of the Bible. Haley worked with BYU Professor Thomas A Wayment in looking into what possible sources Joseph Smith used in his Bible translation. The major discovery here was that Joseph Smith “direct borrowed” or plagiarized heavily from Adam Clarke’s Commentary in […] The post 299: Haley Lemmon – The Joseph Smith Translation – Revelation or Plagiarism appeared first on Mormon Discussion by Bill Reel.
In 2 Nephi 3, Lehi interpreted Genesis in a remarkably complex way. The subtle nuances that become apparent when comparing 2 Nephi and JST Genesis 50 strongly suggest that Joseph Smith did not simply modify 2 Nephi to produce the Joseph Smith Translation. Read at bit.ly/know418
In this episode, Laura Harris Hales visits with Thomas Wayment, LDS Perspectives Podcast’s guest on episode one, in part two of our special first anniversary double episode on the Joseph Smith Translation to discuss some impressive findings regarding Joseph Smith's Bible translation process. Dr. Wayment is currently a professor of ancient scripture at Brigham Young University, as well as publications director of the BYU Religious Studies Center. He earned his BA in Classics from the University of California at Riverside then completed a PhD in New Testament studies at Claremont Graduate University. Known primarily as a New Testament scholar, Dr. Wayment has also written extensively on the Joseph Smith Translation. He became fascinated with the document early in his biblical studies and that interest has never really fizzled. In the next year, he will have two book chapters published on new findings regarding Joseph's Bible translation process. In his recent studies, Wayment found an interesting connection between the JST and a biblical commentary well-known in the 19th-century, especially in Methodist circles. Adam Clarke, a British theologian, took almost 40 years to complete his comprehensive tome, published as The New Testament of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. The text carefully printed from the most correct copies of the present Authorized Version. Including the marginal readings and parallel texts. With a Commentary and Critical Notes. Clarke's commentary became a primary theological resource for nearly two centuries. New research by Michael Hubbard Mackay has uncovered a statement indicating that Joseph Smith had access to a copy of Clarke’s Bible commentary. When Wayment compared Joseph’s translation of the KJV Bible to Clarke’s commentary, he realized that Smith used it in the translation process because of the marked similarities he found between entries in the commentary and changes in Joseph’s KJV Bible. Listen in as Dr. Wayment shares what he believes this indicates about how the Prophet viewed the translation process and what it could mean for how we approach the KJV Bible and the JST. Download Transcript
In this episode, Laura Harris Hales visits with Thomas Wayment, LDS Perspectives Podcast’s guest on episode one, in part two of our special first anniversary double episode on the Joseph Smith Translation to discuss some impressive findings regarding Joseph Smith's Bible translation process. Dr. Wayment is currently a professor of ancient scripture at Brigham Young University, as well as publications director of the BYU Religious Studies Center. He earned his BA in Classics from the University of California at Riverside then completed a PhD in New Testament studies at Claremont Graduate University. Known primarily as a New Testament scholar, Dr. Wayment has also written extensively on the Joseph Smith Translation. He became fascinated with the document early in his biblical studies and that interest has never really fizzled. In the next year, he will have two book chapters published on new findings regarding Joseph's Bible translation process. In his recent studies, Wayment found an interesting connection between the JST and a biblical commentary well-known in the 19th-century, especially in Methodist circles. Adam Clarke, a British theologian, took almost 40 years to complete his comprehensive tome, published as The New Testament of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. The text carefully printed from the most correct copies of the present Authorized Version. Including the marginal readings and parallel texts. With a Commentary and Critical Notes. Clarke's commentary became a primary theological resource for nearly two centuries. New research by Michael Hubbard Mackay has uncovered a statement indicating that Joseph Smith had access to a copy of Clarke’s Bible commentary. When Wayment compared Joseph’s translation of the KJV Bible to Clarke’s commentary, he realized that Smith used it in the translation process because of the marked similarities he found between entries in the commentary and changes in Joseph’s KJV Bible. Listen in as Dr. Wayment shares what he believes this indicates about how the Prophet viewed the translation process and what it could mean for how we approach the KJV Bible and the JST. Extra Resources: Episode 55 Transcript The Nature of Pen and Pencil Markings in the New Testament of Joseph Smith's New Translation of the Bible The Complete Joseph Smith Translation of the New Testament: a Side-By-Side Comparison with the King James Version The Complete Joseph Smith Translation of the Old Testament: a Side-By-Side Comparison with the King James Version
LDS Perspectives, reviews the historical background of the Joseph Smith Translation (JST) and its presence in the Doctrine and Covenants with Dr. Kenneth (Ken) Alford. This episode is part one in a special first anniversary double episode on the Joseph Smith Translation. In his days as an undergraduate at BYU, Ken Alford studied the Joseph Smith Translation of the Bible in depth. After an action-packed career in the United States Army, including assignments as Strategic Leadership department chair at the National Defense University in Washington, D.C., associate professor of computer science at the United States Military Academy at West Point, and serving on the Army Secretariat staff at the Pentagon, his academic pursuits have come full circle. He currently combines rigorous research with a busy teaching schedule in the department of church history and doctrine at Brigham Young University. The Prophet's translation of the Bible had a great influence on the earliest years of Latter-day Saint Church history. The Inspired Version had a significant influence on numerous revelations included today in the Doctrine and Covenants. The interconnections Dr. Alford discusses are fascinating and may change how you view the Joseph Smith Translation. Be sure to tune in next week to hear Laura Harris Hales interview Dr. Thomas Wayment about new research that sheds light on how Joseph went about translating the Bible. Download Transcript
LDS Perspectives, reviews the historical background of the Joseph Smith Translation (JST) and its presence in the Doctrine and Covenants with Dr. Kenneth (Ken) Alford. This episode is part one in a special first anniversary double episode on the Joseph Smith Translation. In his days as an undergraduate at BYU, Ken Alford studied the Joseph Smith Translation of the Bible in depth. After an action-packed career in the United States Army, including assignments as Strategic Leadership department chair at the National Defense University in Washington, D.C., associate professor of computer science at the United States Military Academy at West Point, and serving on the Army Secretariat staff at the Pentagon, his academic pursuits have come full circle. He currently combines rigorous research with a busy teaching schedule in the department of church history and doctrine at Brigham Young University. The Prophet's translation of the Bible had a great influence on the earliest years of Latter-day Saint Church history. The Inspired Version had a significant influence on numerous revelations included today in the Doctrine and Covenants. The interconnections Dr. Alford discusses are fascinating and may change how you view the Joseph Smith Translation. Be sure to tune in next week to hear Laura Harris Hales interview Dr. Thomas Wayment about new research that sheds light on how Joseph went about translating the Bible. Download Transcript
We're continuing our discussion (see part 3 here) with Jim Vun Cannon, a counselor in the First Presidency of the Remnant Church. In this episode, we'll talk about Remnant Church Scriptures. Some of these revelations tell people to gather to Missouri. We'll first talk about their version of the Doctrine & Covenants. GT: Have you had any revelations? How many have you had since 1984? Jim Vun Cannon: Considering our church started about 1999-2000, about 18. GT: About 18, wow. That's about one a year. Jim: Yeah, pretty much. GT: Can you about what are some of those revelations that you've had since 2000? Jim: A number of those revelations are directional. As far as revealing doctrine, per se, so like when you look at Joseph Smith, Jr. and you look at his revelations, there's a lot of doctrines that he's revealing that we see there. Gather to Missouri Now! Some of these revelations tell the saints to gather to Missouri. Jim Vun Cannon: Our revelations as we call them from the Remnant Church forward, you'll see a lot of direction around building community, so we were to go and build community in eastern Jackson County and so we're doing that again, and we have done that. GT: So you're gathering to Missouri. Jim: More or less. Yes, we are already in Missouri. Those of us there are starting to build that because we believe that Zion is a literal place, and that it is the kingdom of heaven on earth where God the Father will dwell and so we are trying to do the best we can. ... GT: That's an interesting idea. It seems like in the LDS Church when I was growing up there was this talk about returning to Missouri but I'll bet in the last 20 years you don't hear that in the LDS Church anymore. Nobody talks about going back to Missouri anymore. We're very happy in Salt Lake. We're building Zion where we are. That's interesting to me. I do believe that's something with the Community of Christ as well as the Remnant Church. That's a big piece of your doctrine and theology is gathering to Jackson County. Is that correct? Jim: Correct, yes. If you want to look at what really, of all the different groups that are out there, that is a defining point. How you define the kingdom changes a lot of things. It really does. As you look at it, some believe that there's nothing you can do. They look at it as Zion's going to show up one day. If you're worthy then you get to go in. If you're not worthy, you're not going to get to go in. We believe that we can actually build Zion and it's a process that we go through and that at some point we'll become sanctified to where it will be the Zion that is spoken of. Do you wish the LDS Church had more revelations, or is this simply the function of a new church to get more revelations than an established church? Why do you think the LDS Church doesn't emphasize gathering to Missouri anymore? Pearl of Great Price? I also asked Jim Vun Cannon from Remnant Church about the Pearl of Great Price. Jim Vun Cannon: The Book of Moses you're talking about, as best I understand that's the same thing we have in our Genesis. The Inspired Version is what we call it. The Joseph Smith Translation what you have, that's what we call the Inspired Version. GT: Oh so you actually include that as part of your Bible. Jim: It is actually—the scriptures for members actually have that in there. The King James is really used just for those who are non-members. We're witnessing to them, we have a common point of reference, the King James. GT: Oh so you would have the six books of Moses then. Jim: Yeah, I guess that would be fair to say that, yeah. We'll also talk about chiasmus in the Book of Mormon. Check out our next conversation with Jim Vun Cannon of Remnant Church! (Don't forget parts 1, 2, and 3!) [paypal-donation] https://youtu.be/dCEEwJloDv8
We continue are discussion with Dr. Brian Hales. (Part 1 is here.) He has written a comprehensive history of Joseph Smith's Polygamy (Volume 1, Volume 2, and Volume 3.) In this episode, I'll ask him about Dr. Mark Staker's claim that Black Pete may have been responsible for introducing polygamy into the Kirtland period. Joseph knew the Old Testament, he knew Abraham had more than one wife and Jacob, so why would we need to think that it was Black Pete that was introducing this in a very real way, especially when Joseph wasn't supportive of so much that was going on when he first arrived down there, and the types of spiritual experiences that they were expressing in their church meetings and things like that. So I'm a little dubious on that, but I just applaud Mark. I say go forward and let us know. He also makes an interesting statement about the Joseph Smith Translation of the Bible. I believe all of these principles came to Joseph line upon line, precept upon precept. Some of the exciting things that are happening down at BYU, Thom Wayment and others are looking at the Joseph Smith Translation very carefully and discovering that it really shouldn't be thought of as actual scripture in and of itself, that it was a chance for Joseph to expand upon the text to make the Bible text correspond with the theology that he was receiving through revelation, or through communications that he portrayed to be from God. I asked Brian about differences in biblical polygamy and Doctrine & Covenants 132. GT: Well so I guess my question is as far as 132 and Genesis, does it seem to you that there's a difference among those two scriptures as far as whether God commanded Hagar to be a plural wife or whether Sarah was totally responsible? Brian acknowledges the accounts are different, but it doesn't bother him. Brian: So for me to see the JST Genesis and that it doesn't necessarily say what comes in 1843 doesn't surprise me because of the line upon line, precept upon precept process. What do you think about these different accounts about Hagar's marriage to Abraham? Does it bother you that these two accounts seem to differ in whether God commanded the marriage, or Sarah suggested it? Check out our conversation… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFPSq1M2Rpg&t https://gospeltangents.com/shop/transcripts/polygamy-dc-132-conflict-jst-genesis/
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