Podcast appearances and mentions of joseph smith translation

July 14-20In the last two podcasts we have talked about the Joseph Smith Translation of the Bible and the tremendous blessings that came to the Prophet Joseph and to Sidney Rigdon as they carefully studied, pondered and meticulously prayed over the Bible. One of the great blessings that came was The Vision of the Three Degrees of Glory. In this week's lesson we get a micro-specific peek into the process of coming to understand a very difficult passage of scripture. The Prophet is asking the Lord very specific questions about Chapters 4 and 7 through 11 in the book of Revelation. And it's not so much what was revealed to Joseph that was important to us as it was the pattern for studying the scriptures and receiving personal revelation.

An in-depth study of D&C 71-75, revelations given during a time when the Church was facing anti-Mormonism in Ohio, requiring Joseph Smith and Sidney Rigdon to pause their work on the Joseph Smith Translation of the Bible to confront the falsehoods being spread by apostate Ezra Booth. Also, insights into mixed-faith marriages, dealing with rejection, and the origins of membership records and temple recommends. 0:00 Introduction and Overview 3:55 Confronting Anti-Mormonism 17:17 Temple Recommends 32:50 Patiently Practical 45:22 Mixed-Faith Marriages 1:02:58 Interpreting Scripture 1:10:27 Second Chances 1:18:07 Dealing with Rejection 1:29:46 One-Liners

We'll discuss the revelations from 1834-1838 including the uncanonized Zelph Revelation. In 1834, Joseph Smith changed the name of the church from Church of Christ to Church of the Latter Day Saints. Check out our conversation... https://youtu.be/ogCyg94XghM Copyright © 2025 Gospel Tangents All Rights Reserved Except for book reviews, no content may be reproduced without written permission Uncanonized Zelph Revelation One particularly intriguing inclusion in Hocking's book, treated as a revelation although not canonized by the LDS Church today, is the account of Zelph. This account originates from Joseph Smith's history and details an experience while roving over the plains of the Nephites during Zion's Camp. Joseph Smith described discovering a skeleton. Through a vision or revelation, he understood that the person was "a white Lamanite, a large thick set man, and a man of God" named Zelph. Zelph was identified as "a warrior and a chieftain under the great prophet Onandagus who named from the eastern sea." The eastern sea is likened to Lake Ontario. The account describes Zelph's injuries, including a broken side caused by a stone from a sling and death from an arrow found among his ribs during a battle. Hocking notes that B.H. Roberts, in a book written before his involvement with History of the Church, also discussed Zion's Camp passing mysterious earth mounds, which Roberts suggested were related to the Nephites, Lamanites, or people of Jared. Hocking sees Joseph Smith's account of finding Zelph as a way of demonstrating a physical witness of the Book of Mormon peoples. Joseph Smith, having provided the spiritual testimony through the translated book, was now offering a physical witness for those on the journey. Those who went on Zion's Camp reportedly stayed faithful, potentially due to this physical witness. While the story of Zelph might seem "fantastical" to some, and perhaps for this reason it hasn't been canonized by the modern LDS church, Hocking includes it because Joseph Smith presented it as a revelation where the heavens were opened and the Almighty gave him understanding. Later Revelations and Profound Connections Moving into the later period (1838-1843), which includes the Nauvoo temple era, Hocking's book covers 20 revelations. He also includes statements from Joseph Smith that he treats "as if they're revelations because they're statements." One powerful example is found in what is now Section 128 of the Doctrine and Covenants. While in hiding, Joseph Smith wrote a letter to the church about baptisms for the dead. Within this letter, he includes what Hocking calls a "poetical utterance," similar to passages in Nephi or Lehi. Joseph Smith speaks of glad tidings from Cumorah and Moroni, the voices of Peter, James, and John on the banks of the Mississippi, the voice of the Heavenly Father, and significantly, the voices of Michael the archangel, Gabriel, Raphael, and "diverse angels from Michael or Adam down to the present time." These angels are described as declaring their dispensations, rights, honors, keys, majesty, glory, and priesthood power. Hocking found this section particularly striking after studying the Book of Enoch, which features conversations with Michael, Gabriel, and Raphael. He posits that Joseph Smith is a "new Enoch," drawing parallels between their lives. Furthermore, Hocking discovered profound correlations between Joseph Smith's translation work and other ancient texts. He highlights the Joseph Smith Translation of Genesis 18, where three men who visit Abraham are identified as "angels which were holy men and they were sent after the order of God," in contrast to the King James Version which simply calls them "three men". Comparing this to the Book of Jasher (published 10 years after Joseph Smith's revelation), Hocking found a passage stating, "and the Lord appeared unto him at the plain and sent three of his ministering angels." Delving deeper,

This episode is part 17 in a series going through the story of the Book of Mormon.This episode covers Mosiah 15:1-9 and its clear teaching of modalism. These verses sound like something a Oneness Pentecostal might say.This episode explains the Trinity and how Oneness Pentecostalism differs with clips from Dr. David K. Bernard of the UPCI.Then, we compare what Oneness theology says with what Mosiah 15:1-9 claims about Jesus. Also, the Joseph Smith Translation changes Luke 10:22 to make Jesus say that the Father and the Son are the same person. (Note: I mistakenly said Matthew 11:27 in the audio, which is the parallel gospel account.)It seems undeniable that Joseph Smith was dabbling in modalism while writing the Book of Mormon.Sources Cited:"How Is Jesus Both God and Man? | Episode 36," David K. Bernard."Is Jesus God or God's Son? | Episode 99," David K. Bernard."Why Did Jesus Pray to His Father? | Episode 181," David K. Bernard.David K. Bernard, "The Oneness View of Jesus Christ: Oneness theology affirms Father, Son, and Holy Spirit as simultaneous, not sequential, manifestations of God," McGahan Publishing House, January 4, 2021.Luke 10:23 in the Joseph Smith TranslationRelated Truthspresso episodes:Episode 81: Is Jesus Like Ant-Man?Episode 87: Is Jesus Like the Incredible Hulk?Episode 157: Is Jesus Like Doctor Octopus? (part 1)Episode 159: Is Jesus Like Doctor Octopus? (part 2)Episode 160: Is Jesus Like Doctor Octopus? (part 3)Episode 78: The Christmas Promise of Isaiah 9:6Further research:Book of Mormon in videoJoseph Smith: The Prophet of the RestorationThe Book of Mormon online: Mosiah [chapter 15]*** Please contribute to the Hurricane relief fund for A.M. Brewster ***Have questions for Truthspresso? Contact us!Mentioned in this...

This episode is part 17 in a series going through the story of the Book of Mormon.This episode covers Mosiah 15:1-9 and its clear teaching of modalism. These verses sound like something a Oneness Pentecostal might say.This episode explains the Trinity and how Oneness Pentecostalism differs with clips from Dr. David K. Bernard of the UPCI.Then, we compare what Oneness theology says with what Mosiah 15:1-9 claims about Jesus. Also, the Joseph Smith Translation changes Luke 10:22 to make Jesus say that the Father and the Son are the same person. (Note: I mistakenly said Matthew 11:27 in the audio, which is the parallel gospel account.)It seems undeniable that Joseph Smith was dabbling in modalism while writing the Book of Mormon.Sources Cited:"How Is Jesus Both God and Man? | Episode 36," David K. Bernard."Is Jesus God or God's Son? | Episode 99," David K. Bernard."Why Did Jesus Pray to His Father? | Episode 181," David K. Bernard.David K. Bernard, "The Oneness View of Jesus Christ: Oneness theology affirms Father, Son, and Holy Spirit as simultaneous, not sequential, manifestations of God," McGahan Publishing House, January 4, 2021.Luke 10:23 in the Joseph Smith TranslationRelated Truthspresso episodes:Episode 81: Is Jesus Like Ant-Man?Episode 87: Is Jesus Like the Incredible Hulk?Episode 157: Is Jesus Like Doctor Octopus? (part 1)Episode 159: Is Jesus Like Doctor Octopus? (part 2)Episode 160: Is Jesus Like Doctor Octopus? (part 3)Episode 78: The Christmas Promise of Isaiah 9:6Further research:Book of Mormon in videoJoseph Smith: The Prophet of the RestorationThe Book of Mormon online: Mosiah [chapter 15]*** Please contribute to the Hurricane relief fund for A.M. Brewster ***Have questions for Truthspresso? Contact us!Mentioned in this...

Don't miss this special episode of Come, Follow Church History with Doctor Lynne Hilton Wilson about the Joseph Smith Translation of the Bible. Join Lynne as you asks some hard questions about Jospeh's work on the Bible and the most significant verses he translated. Joseph Smith's translation (JST) of the Bible did not start with its original languages of Hebrew (Old Testament) and Greek (New Testament) as technical translations do. In this way, the JST is more of a revision of certain passages. Many passages Joseph was inspired to add or change—especially in early chapters of Genesis. For other portions, the JST modernized the grammar or clarified the text. Some changes came from revelation after asking questions, and others from his own preferences and understanding.

An in-depth study of D&C 30-36, revelations to various individuals being called to serve missions, as well as a revelation to Joseph Smith and Sidney Rigdon regarding the Joseph Smith Translation of the Bible. 0:00 Introduction and Overview 3:44 Missionary Fears 13:11 Senior Missionaries 23:00 Advice for Missionaries 32:17 The Eleventh Hour 41:55 Finding the Faithful in Babylon 55:27 God's Own Bible 1:05:09 Fleeing the Fire 1:14:39 One-Liners

Take advantage of the amazing extra content we have TSAR.website, Help the podcast keep going and bless your life with a huge amount of incredible content by joining us. In this Episode Andrew Skinner and Kerry explore one of the most amazing sections. They talk about what it means to be elect and what it means to gather the elect. They also speak about the role of the Joseph Smith Translation revelations in the reception of more revelation. That takes them into a discussion of agency and the Fall and the spiritual and temporal nature of creation and a Restoration perspective on that. We are grateful for the generosity of our executive producer, B. Fisher, and for our other generous donors who make the podcast possible. We are also grateful for the incredible work of Launchpad Consulting Studio who produces the podcast, and for Rich Nicholls, who composed and plays the music for the podcast.

→ Watch on YouTube → Detailed Show Notes → Timestamps: (00:00) An overview – Christ will prevail.(07:25) The background to this section is the Joseph Smith Translation.(12:28) The name of Christ: I Am that I Am.(21:08) God promises to gather His people as a hen gathereth her chicks.(29:06) The earth The post Ep 314 | D&C 29, Come Follow Me 2025 (March 31-April 6) appeared first on LDS Scripture Teachings.

How the Joseph Smith Translation of the Bible leads to revelation

In the last episode of the first season of Slow Burn of Mormon History Andrew Soncrant and Ryan McMartin tackle the Joseph Smith Translation of the Bible. This work cannot continue without your partnership click HERE To partner with us today to keep seasons just like this one coming. You can see our YouTube channel HERE

Kent P. Jackson spoke at the 2021 Tracing Ancient Threads in the Book of Moses Conference on Saturday, April 24, 2021. Many Latter-day Saints are unaware of the origin of “Selections from the Book of Moses,” one of the books in the Pearl of Great Price. In short, it consists of the beginning pages of […] The post Conference Talks: How We Got the Joseph Smith Translation, the Book of Moses, and Joseph Smith—Matthew first appeared on The Interpreter Foundation.

The Joseph Smith Translation of the Bible (with co-host Earl Erskine)

In this episode, Bryan, Bo and KD explore the differences between the Bible and the Book of Mormon, focusing on textual and historical evidence. They discuss how the Book of Mormon lacks archaeological evidence and contains anachronisms, while the Bible has extensive evidence supporting its accuracy and reliability. They emphasize that the Bible tells one unified story, written by multiple authors over 1500 years, yet remaining consistent. They also address the reliability of Bible translations, explaining that translations are accurate and reliable, and the Joseph Smith Translation cannot be considered a true translation. They conclude by highlighting the power and inspiration of the Bible as the Word of God.Takeaways:Mormons believe the Bible is the word of God, but it is not infallible and has errors.The Bible is ranked below the Book of Mormon, Doctrine and Covenants, and Pearl of Great Price in Mormon canon.Christians believe in the verbal plenary inspiration of the Bible, meaning that divine inspiration extends to the very words themselves and all parts of the Bible.The Book of Mormon lacks archaeological evidence and contains anachronisms, while the Bible has extensive evidence supporting its accuracy and reliability.The Bible tells one unified story, written by multiple authors over 1500 years, yet remaining consistent.Translations of the Bible are accurate and reliable, and the Joseph Smith Translation cannot be considered a true translation.The Bible is the Word of God and can be trusted.--The Unveiling Mormonism podcast pulls back the curtain on Mormon history, culture and doctrine. Join us for new episodes every Monday. Find resources to talk about these episodes at pursueGOD.org/mormonism.Help others go "full circle" as a follower of Jesus through our 12-week Pursuit series.Click here to learn more about how to use these resources at home, with a small group, or in a one-on-one discipleship relationship.Got questions or want to leave a note? Email us at podcast@pursueGOD.org.Donate Now Mentioned in this episode:Donate Now

In this episode, Bryan, Bo and KD explore the differences between the Bible and the Book of Mormon, focusing on textual and historical evidence. They discuss how the Book of Mormon lacks archaeological evidence and contains anachronisms, while the Bible has extensive evidence supporting its accuracy and reliability. They emphasize that the Bible tells one unified story, written by multiple authors over 1500 years, yet remaining consistent. They also address the reliability of Bible translations, explaining that translations are accurate and reliable, and the Joseph Smith Translation cannot be considered a true translation. They conclude by highlighting the power and inspiration of the Bible as the Word of God.Takeaways:Mormons believe the Bible is the word of God, but it is not infallible and has errors.The Bible is ranked below the Book of Mormon, Doctrine and Covenants, and Pearl of Great Price in Mormon canon.Christians believe in the verbal plenary inspiration of the Bible, meaning that divine inspiration extends to the very words themselves and all parts of the Bible.The Book of Mormon lacks archaeological evidence and contains anachronisms, while the Bible has extensive evidence supporting its accuracy and reliability.The Bible tells one unified story, written by multiple authors over 1500 years, yet remaining consistent.Translations of the Bible are accurate and reliable, and the Joseph Smith Translation cannot be considered a true translation.The Bible is the Word of God and can be trusted.--The Unveiling Mormonism podcast pulls back the curtain on Mormon history, culture and doctrine. Join us for new episodes every Monday. Find resources to talk about these episodes at pursueGOD.org/mormonism.Help others go "full circle" as a follower of Jesus through our 12-week Pursuit series.Click here to learn more about how to use these resources at home, with a small group, or in a one-on-one discipleship relationship.Got questions or want to leave a note? Email us at podcast@pursueGOD.org.Donate Now Mentioned in this episode:Donate Now

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints made an historic aquision today purchasing the Kirtland Temple, several Nauvoo properties, The Joseph Smith Translation manuscripts, and several other landmark items for $192.5 Million from the Community of Christ (formerly RLDS Church). Steven Pynnaker, who seems to have broken the story, joins me with some inside information on the transaction and the financial need of the Community of Christ to sell these properties. Website - www.cwicmedia.com   

Joseph Smith's "Inspired Version" often described as the "Joseph Smith Translation" was an inspired effort made by JS to restore plain and precious truths to the Bible which had been lost.  The IV or JST was inspired by passages in the Book of Mormon, observed during the translation process, that pertained to ther Bible.  It commenced just a few months after the Book of Mormon translaton and printing had been completed. It was never completed.  JS was working on it until the day he died in 1844. The JST/IV consists of (1) expensions of material about Moses, Enoch and Melchizedek, (2) grammatical improvements, (3) meaning changes, (4) interpretive changes or additions usually indicated by "or in other words", (5) changes that clarify, and, (6) reconciling passages that contradicted other Bible passages.  To make his JST or IV, Joseph used a King James Bible purchased from E.B. Grandin by Oliver Cowdery.  Learn more about the inspired changes from this episode of Religion Today, hosted by Martin Tanner

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As the only named Lamanite called to prophesy unto the Nephites, Samuel serves as a memorable figure in the Book of Mormon. Not only did he risk his life to preach repentance unto the Nephites from the wall of Zarahemla, but he also detailed vital signs of the birth and death of Jesus Christ. In this episode, Dr. Frank Judd Jr. discusses his chapter “Samuel the Lamanite and Prophecies Fulfilled,” from the Book of Mormon Academy volume Samuel the Lamanite—That Ye Might Believe. Professor Judd discusses Samuel's prophecies of the Savior and a possible connection with the Joseph Smith Translation. These signs were so crucial to our understanding of these events that the resurrected Lord commanded Nephi to include all of them in the record (see 3 Nephi 23:9—13). In studying these words, we “might have glad tidings” (Helaman 13:7) unto our souls much like Samuel intended.       Publications: ·      “Samuel the Lamanite and Prophecies Fulfilled” (in Samuel the Lamanite—That Ye Might Believe, Religious Studies Center, 2021) ·      For Professor Judd's other publications, please see his Religious Studies Center author profile here   Click here to learn more about Frank Judd Jr.

From Come Follow Me:When John and Jude wrote their epistles, corrupt doctrine had already started leading many Saints into apostasy. Some false teachers were even questioning whether Jesus Christ had actually appeared “in the flesh” (see, for example, 1 John 4:1–3; 2 John 1:7). What could a Church leader do in such a situation? The Apostle John responded by sharing his personal witness of the Savior: “This is the testimony which we give of that which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life” (Joseph Smith Translation, 1 John 1:1 [in 1 John 1:1, footnote a]). And then John taught about love: God's love for us and the love we should have for Him and all His children. After all, John was a witness of that, too. He had personally experienced the Savior's love (see John 13:23; 20:2), and he wanted the Saints to feel that same love. John's testimony and teachings on love are just as needed today, when faith in Jesus Christ is questioned and false teachings abound. Reading John's epistles can help us face today's adversities with courage, for “there is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear” (1 John 4:18).**********************The thoughts, ideas, and beliefs we express on this channel do not officially represent The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints.  For additional information or official statements, please visit the website below.The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints:https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/?lang=eng#biblestudy #oldtestament #religion #churchofjesuschrist #ldspodcast #christianpodcast #missionary #lds #biblestories #christ #faith #faithinchrist #scriptures #bookofmormon #doctrineandcovenants #pearlofgreatprice #temples #houseofthelord #mormon #mormonbeliefs #chritiansandmormons #god #endure #ironrod #faithineveryfootstep #generalconference #prophets #followtheprophet #commandments #love #service #charity #keepstriving #keeponstriving #gospelgrowthandgoodtimes #become #newtestamentSupport the show

Aside from his Book of Mormon translation project, Joseph Smith engaged in at least three other scripture production projects that we know of. The first was his ambitious Bible translation project we now know as the Joseph Smith Translation, the second was the printing of his own revelations which we now know as the Doctrine and Covenants, and the third was his project of translation which commenced after he acquired papyrus scrolls from Egypt which we now know as the Book of Abraham. Throughout this new series we will consider each of these fascinating projects in turn, including the points of controversy connected with each.  In this episode of Church History Matters, we begin our exploration of Joseph Smith's translation of the Bible, or the JST for short. When did it begin? Why didn't we get this into Latter-day Saint Bibles until 1979? What does the word “translate” mean in this context in light of the fact that Joseph Smith didn't know Hebrew or Greek during this project? And what are some assumptions Church members often bring to the text of the JST that may not be warranted? For show notes and transcript for this and other episodes go to https://doctrineandcovenantscentral.org/church-history-matters-podcast/   

From Come Follow Me:As he opened his epistle to the Romans, Paul greeted Church members by calling them “beloved of God” who were “called to be saints.” He remarked that their “faith [was] spoken of throughout the whole world” (Romans 1:7–8). Even though Paul spent much of his epistle correcting false ideas and flawed behaviors, it seems he also wanted to assure these new Christian converts that they truly were Saints who were beloved of God. His tender counsel blesses all of us who struggle to feel God's love and for whom becoming a Saint may feel out of reach. With humble empathy, Paul acknowledged that he had felt like a “wretched man” at times (Romans 7:24), but the gospel of Jesus Christ had given him power to overcome sin (see Joseph Smith Translation, Romans 7:22–27 [in the Bible appendix]). With that power, the Savior's redeeming power, we can “overcome evil”—both evil in the world and evil in ourselves—“with good” (Romans 12:21).The thoughts, ideas, and beliefs we express on this channel do not officially represent The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints.  For additional information or official statements, please visit the website below.The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints:https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/?lang=eng#biblestudy #oldtestament #religion #churchofjesuschrist #ldspodcast #christianpodcast #missionary #lds #biblestories #christ #faith #faithinchrist #scriptures #bookofmormon #doctrineandcovenants #pearlofgreatprice #temples #houseofthelord #mormon #mormonbeliefs #chritiansandmormons #god #endure #ironrod #faithineveryfootstep #generalconference #prophets #followtheprophet #commandments #love #service #charity #keepstriving #keeponstriving #gospelgrowthandgoodtimes #become #newtestamentSupport the show

00:00 Christian and Mormon foundational disagreements 07:58 What the Mormon church says about Joseph Smith 13:22 The Joseph Smith Translation of the Bible 20:34 Joseph Smith's problem with Logos  

Join John, Nemo, and Mike in a captivating episode as they unravel the intricate tapestry of influences that shaped the founder of Mormonism, Joseph Smith. From the unique doctrines of Mormonism to the enigmatic Book of Mormon, they embark on a thought-provoking journey through history and religious texts. Discover the surprising connections between revival sermons and the sermons in the Book of Mormon, and explore the profound influence of figures like Alexander Campbell on Joseph Smith's religious framework. Delve into the visionary experiences that shaped Smith's spiritual journey, from the lesser-known first visions of Norris Stearns and Asa Wild to the fascinating early versions of "memes" in American history. Uncover the intriguing connections between the priesthood restoration and the teachings of the Campbellites, as well as the incorporation of the Book of Enoch in the Joseph Smith Translation of the Bible. Journey through the Word of Wisdom and its links to the Temperance Movement and explore the historical contexts that influenced Smith's perspectives on the Curse of Cain and the Curse of Ham. Finally, peel back the layers of the Endowment Ceremony and its similarities to the Masonic Ceremony, shedding light on Joseph Smith's quest to restore ancient rituals. Prepare for an eye-opening exploration of the diverse influences that shaped Joseph Smith and the emergence of Mormonism. In this episode, you'll uncover the intricate connections between historical events, religious movements, and Joseph Smith's visionary experiences, shedding new light on the foundations of one of America's most influential religious movements. Episode Show Notes _________________________ LDS Discussions is made possible by generous donors! Help us continue to deliver quality content by becoming a donor today: One-time or recurring donation through Donorbox Support us on Patreon LDS Discussions Platforms: LDS Discussions Website LDS Discussions Playlist on YouTube Contact LDS Discussions: Twitter: @ldsdicussions Facebook: @ldsdiscussion Insta: @ldsdiscussions Email: ldsdiscussions@gmail.com Contact us: MormonStories@gmail.com PO Box 171085, Salt Lake City, UT 84117 Social Media: Insta: @mormstories Tiktok: @mormonstoriespodcast Join the Discord

Join John, Nemo, and Mike in a captivating episode as they unravel the intricate tapestry of influences that shaped the founder of Mormonism, Joseph Smith. From the unique doctrines of Mormonism to the enigmatic Book of Mormon, they embark on a thought-provoking journey through history and religious texts. Discover the surprising connections between revival sermons and the sermons in the Book of Mormon, and explore the profound influence of figures like Alexander Campbell on Joseph Smith's religious framework. Delve into the visionary experiences that shaped Smith's spiritual journey, from the lesser-known first visions of Norris Stearns and Asa Wild to the fascinating early versions of "memes" in American history. Uncover the intriguing connections between the priesthood restoration and the teachings of the Campbellites, as well as the incorporation of the Book of Enoch in the Joseph Smith Translation of the Bible. Journey through the Word of Wisdom and its links to the Temperance Movement and explore the historical contexts that influenced Smith's perspectives on the Curse of Cain and the Curse of Ham. Finally, peel back the layers of the Endowment Ceremony and its similarities to the Masonic Ceremony, shedding light on Joseph Smith's quest to restore ancient rituals. Prepare for an eye-opening exploration of the diverse influences that shaped Joseph Smith and the emergence of Mormonism. In this episode, you'll uncover the intricate connections between historical events, religious movements, and Joseph Smith's visionary experiences, shedding new light on the foundations of one of America's most influential religious movements. Episode Show Notes _________________________ LDS Discussions is made possible by generous donors! Help us continue to deliver quality content by becoming a donor today: One-time or recurring donation through Donorbox Support us on Patreon LDS Discussions Platforms: LDS Discussions Website LDS Discussions Playlist on YouTube Contact LDS Discussions: Twitter: @ldsdicussions Facebook: @ldsdiscussion Insta: @ldsdiscussions Email: ldsdiscussions@gmail.com Contact us: MormonStories@gmail.com PO Box 171085, Salt Lake City, UT 84117 Social Media: Insta: @mormstories Tiktok: @mormonstoriespodcast Join the Discord --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/lds-discussions/message

We'll discuss the controversy of Thomas Wayment's recent paper about the Joseph Smith Translation & Adam Clarke. What do people get wrong? We'll also discuss some New Testament scholarship. Did Joseph Smith and/or other translators mistranslate Paul? Did Paul start Christianity? Dr Thomas Wayment has a new edition and new publisher of is translation of the New Testament! Check out our conversation.... https://youtu.be/L6kkhSHX4Ok transcript to follow Copyright © 2023 Gospel Tangents All Rights Reserved Except for book reviews, no content may be reproduced without written permission transcript to follow Copyright © 2023 Gospel Tangents All Rights Reserved Except for book reviews, no content may be reproduced without written permission

This week we are studying the second coming of Jesus Christ! We are reading Joseph Smith—Matthew 1; Matthew 24–25; Mark 12–13; Luke 21 “The Son of Man Shall Come” What is Joseph Smith—Matthew? Joseph Smith—Matthew, located in the Pearl of Great Price, is the Joseph Smith Translation of the last verse of Matthew 23 and all of Matthew 24. Joseph Smith's inspired revisions restore precious truths that had been lost. Verses 12–21 refer to the destruction of Jerusalem anciently; verses 21–55 contain prophecies about the last days. This week the children will come away knowing: Jesus wants me to serve others. We serve Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ by serving people around us. I am responsible for my own conversion to Jesus Christ. The parable of the ten virgins for kids teaches that we cannot borrow our conversion to the Savior from others. They will also learn the parable of the sheep and goats for kids. We also discuss that at the Final Judgment, we will give the Lord an account of our lives. This is a Come Follow me podcast for children. We are members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, and we create this podcast for primary aged children (2-12) following along with the church's Come Follow Me Manual. This is a New Testament Bible Study podcast for children. If your children would like to be guests on our podcast email us at comefollowmekidspodcast@gmail.com and we will send you an assignment for a future week. Here is a link to the service survey referenced in the show: https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/friend/2019/03/service-survey?lang=eng

From Come Follow Me:Some of the Savior's most memorable teachings were in the form of simple stories called parables. These were more than just interesting anecdotes about ordinary objects or events. They contained profound truths about the kingdom of God for those who were spiritually prepared. One of the first parables recorded in the New Testament—the parable of the sower (see Matthew 13:3–23)—invites us to examine our readiness to receive God's word. “For whosoever receiveth,” Jesus declared, “to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance” (Joseph Smith Translation, Matthew 13:10 [in Matthew 13:12, footnote a]). So as we prepare to study the Savior's parables—or any of His teachings—a good place to start is to examine our hearts and determine whether we are giving the word of God “good ground” (Matthew 13:8) in which to grow, blossom, flourish, and produce fruit that will bless us and our families in abundance.The thoughts, ideas, and beliefs we express on this channel do not officially represent The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints.  For additional information or official statements, please visit the website below.The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints:https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/?lang=eng#biblestudy #oldtestament #religion #churchofjesuschrist #ldspodcast #christianpodcast #missionary #lds #biblestories #christ #faith #faithinchrist #scriptures #bookofmormon #doctrineandcovenants #pearlofgreatprice #temples #houseofthelord #mormon #mormonbeliefs #chritiansandmormons #god #endure #ironrod #faithineveryfootstep #generalconference #prophets #followtheprophet #commandments #love #service #charity #keepstriving #keeponstriving #gospelgrowthandgoodtimes #become #newtestamentSupport the show

In this episode, we discuss the Joseph Smith Translation of the Bible and spend some time on the Sermon on the Mount. We also read an email about how popular the podcast is with arrested criminals in the back of police cars. Join us on the Standard of Truth Tour (a few slots still available): Monday, June 5th through Sunday, June 11th - https://standardoftruth.com/tours/ Subscribe to our free newsletter - https://standardoftruthpodcast.substack.com/ Please visit our website at www.standardoftruth.com If you have any questions or possible topics of discussion for upcoming podcasts, please email us at: questions@standardoftruthpodcast.com

The Sermon on the Mount PART 2! As the Savior continues His sermon, it is important to remember that there is no break in the sermon between chapter 5 and 6 or 6 and 7. Scholars have broken the sermon into chapters to make reading and digesting the sermon easier. The themes, however likely carry through from chapter to chapter. With that in mind, we should consider the apparent contradiction in the Savior's message. In chapter 5, Jesus said, "Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on a hill cannot be hid. . . . Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works..." (vs 14, 16)Then, in chapter 6, he says that we should serve others and say our prays in secret and not let anyone know when we are fasting.Well what is it? Should we do our good works in public or should we keep them hidden? In this discussion, Stuart and I discuss this and the impact of our motivations on our good works as well as a tip from Elder Robert D. Hales on how to measure our motives. Another great point from this epic sermon is the idea of judging others. The Joseph Smith Translation seems to make allowances for "righteous" judgment, but what is that and what does it look like?

Come Follow Me Podcast for Kids! We are a New Testament Bible study podcast that follows the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints teachings from the Come Follow me Primary manual. This week we are studying: John 2–4 “Ye Must Be Born Again” I can honor my mother as Jesus did. I need to be baptized and confirmed to return to live with Heavenly Father. Jesus Christ is my “living water.” At the wedding in Cana, Mary told Jesus that the wine had run out. According to the Joseph Smith Translation, Jesus responded to His mother by asking, “Woman, what wilt thou have me to do for thee? that will I do” (in John 2:4, footnote a). Jesus is an example of how we should treat our mothers. Being baptized and confirmed is like being born again. When we are baptized, which Jesus called being “born of water,” we receive a remission of our sins and can “enter into the kingdom of God” (John 3:5). This week children will learn: What things are like “living water” that can satisfy us forever?

Joseph Smith Translation, Matthew 4:11

A reading of this week's Come Follow Me assignment. Matthew 4; Luke 4-5. Keep in mind that Matthew 4 is the Joseph Smith Translation version. Luke 4-5 is not.

What is the Joseph Smith Translation?

Episode 2January 2 - January 8 | “Be It Unto Me According to Thy Word”Apologize to Ben FearMove to Wyoming#OldTestament2022 #comefollowme #comefollowme2022 #TalkofHim #FindHimJoin hosts Ganel-Lyn Condie and John Fossum on this FIRST New Testament episode of Talk of Him as we explore these important themes, topics, and questions: Jesus Christ as our Savior from sin and His divine mission (help and healing)Feared AND Favored – trusting God in your difficult stewardships Acting in faith even when it may look crazy to others—Invitation: What message may God be teaching us about the mission of His Son by referencing four women in Jesus's lineage that hailed from non-ideal heritages?— Quotes & Links: Link to FIND HIM New Testament Study Guide:https://www.seagullbook.com/find-him-new-testament-come-follow-me-guidebook.html Link to Come to Bethlehem and See by Ganel-Lyn Condie: https://www.seagullbook.com/come-to-bethlehem-and-see.html Mistakes are a fact of life. … “Success,” it has been said, “isn't the absence of failure, but going from failure to failure without any loss of enthusiasm.” With his invention of the light bulb, Thomas Edison purportedly said, “I didn't fail 1,000 times. The light bulb was an invention with 1,000 steps.” Charles F. Kettering called failures “finger posts on the road to achievement.” Hopefully, each mistake we make becomes a lesson in wisdom, turning stumbling blocks into stepping-stones. … Knowing that the strait and narrow path would be strewn with trials and that failures would be a daily occurrence for us, the Savior paid an infinite price to give us as many chances as it would take to successfully pass our mortal probation…. His grace and His loving eye are upon us throughout our entire journey as He inspires, lightens burdens, strengthens, delivers, protects, heals, and otherwise “succor[s] his people,” even as they stumble along the strait and narrow path. (2018–A:21, Lynn G. Robbins, Until Seventy Times Seven)“When Gabriel appears, Mary is a young woman engaged to be married to Joseph (see Luke 1:27). Although we do not know how old Mary was at the time, in antiquity it was possible for marriage contracts to be arranged even before puberty. Gabriel's appearance and declarations that Mary is “highly favoured,” that “the Lord is with thee,” that she is “blessed . . . among women” (Luke 1:28), and that, according to the Joseph Smith Translation of Luke 1:28, she was “chosen” (see also Alma 7:10) must have elicited a mixed reaction of confusion and even fear in Mary. We can only imagine what thoughts might have raced through her mind at that moment, but they could have included questions like, “Why does God consider me to be ‘blessed among women'?” “Why have I ‘found favour with God' and what does that even mean?” (see Luke 1:30) (Gaye Strathearn, “Mary, the Mother of Jesus,” Ensign or Liahona, Jan. 2019)“Do you feel troubled and uncertain about what is being asked of you? As you fall to your knees, pleading for help to do one more day, do you wonder if God is really favoring you in these blessings? Do you worry aboutthe capacity needed for the callings ahead?” (Come to Bethlehem and See, Ganel-Lyn Condie)—Talk of Him is presented by Seagull Book and hosted by Ganel-Lyn Condie and John Fossum.

January 2-8 You know, it's important that you add the Joseph Smith Translation to all of your studies in the coming year because Joseph gives us so many insights into the New Testament. We'll talk about them here and there, and you just need to pay attention to those. One of the very first ones that we need to look at is just the fact that Joseph changed the name of the books—those four Gospels— that we call The Gospel According to Matthew to The Testimony of Matthew, and The Testimony of Mark, The Testimony of Luke, and The Testimony of John. That makes a real difference.

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Learn about the significance of the ten plagues the Lord sent to Egypt, and a few lessons we can learn from those plagues, including lessons about God's power, the real purpose of being on earth, the power of our own choices and the effects they have on others, how to make sure we're not ignoring the Lord's warnings and commandments in our own lives, and so much more. We will also focus on the Passover and how in many ways it parallels the ordinance of the Sacrament. And we'll discover how to see things through a symbolic lens to help us come to see and know the Savior in personal and intimate ways as we work to come unto Him.   Download Episode Transcript   (0:01) - Who is the God of the Old Testament and where does the name Jehovah come from? The serpent as a symbol of Christ and His power (6:16) - The Joseph Smith Translation and introducing the 10 plagues on Egypt; God's respect for our agency; why does God send such signs and wonders?; God as a God of order (11:49) - Plagues 1-3; a theological war of sorts; how the Lord seems to be “uncreating” Egypt (16:36) - Plague 4; how the Lord is seeking to protect us from the plagues of the last days; a personal inventory to determine if we are accepting the Lord's protection today (21:25) - How the plagues demonstrate the chaotic consequences of choosing to life a life without God (24:17) - Plagues 5-6; how our choices affect others; how the plagues are a predecessor of the plagues of the last days (29:23) - Plague 7-9; keeping our promises to obey and follow the Lord (32:26) - Plague 10 - the Passover, the Savior, and the Sacrament; salvation from sin through Jesus Christ and His Atonement; teaching tip: learning to see things through a symbolic lens (47:26) - The second Exodus of the gathering of Israel; invitation to participate in general conference and a reminder of the earlier episode from September 28th, 2021 giving a sneak peek behind the scenes of general conference

Today we talk about the Joseph Smith Translation of Genesis 50 and how closely it relates to a prophecy passed down through Jewish oral tradition. Info on the Messiah Ben Joseph prophecy: https://rsc-legacy.byu.edu/archived/selections-2007-religious-education-student-symposium/ancient-studies/messiah-ben-joseph https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/ensign/1972/12/the-old-testament-speaks-today?lang=eng

When Kerry Muhlestein received a PhD in Egyptology from UCLA, he had no plans to research the Book of Abraham. But when people kept asking him about the scripture's origins, he decided to devote his time to finding the answers. Years later, Dr. Muhlestein is considered an expert on all things Old Testament and the Pearl of Great Price. He joins us on this week's episode to help us get excited for this year's Come, Follow Me study. “If you lose faith in the Restoration, you have lost—in some ways—everything. Of course, you can believe in Christ and not believe in the Restoration, but believing in Christ, in the way He is taught to us through the Restoration, gives us a chance for an exaltation and a peace in this life and a joy in this life that really isn't possible any other way.”   Show Notes 1:36- Egyptology 5:53- Historicity of Scripture 8:55- Symbolism 14:36- Finding God in the Old Testament 18:45- Getting the Most Out 20:43- Being Okay With Ambiguity 25:55- Lost Manuscripts 33:01- Witnesses 34:05- Translation 40:18- Evidence of Truth? 47:39- Book of Moses 48:55- What Do We Have To Gain? 51:37- What Does It Mean To Be All In the Gospel of Jesus Christ? Find the full episode transcript at ldsliving.com/allin. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

An indepth study of Moses 7, which recounts the visions of Enoch and Zion being caught up to heaven. This lesson focuses on building Zion, the devil's laughter, the God Who weeps, coming to know God's heart, Mother Earth, flooding the world with truth, and more. 0:00 Welcome 1:59 Joseph Smith Translation and Moses 7 7:26 Building Zion 12:47 Study of Moses 7 15:52 Conversations at Higher Elevations 19:37 Wickedness Spreads 26:29 Enoch's Faith, Power, & Language 31:16 Zion, City of Holiness 39:34 Visions of Wickedness 42:49 Satan's Laughter 48:01 Noah's Converts 49:55 A Weeping God 1:00:33 The Two Great Commandments 1:05:04 The Wickedness of the World 1:09:26 Sorrow over Our Suffering 1:15:45 The Suffering of the Savior 1:18:14 Understanding God's Heart 1:22:11 The Flood 1:26:49 The Coming of Christ 1:29:38 Mother Earth 1:40:42 A Flood of Truth 1:49:23 Conclusion

This Week, Most Excellent Theophilus, we discuss the LDS, the Joseph Smith Translation, and the book of Galatians.

Episode Twenty Five: The Joseph Smith Translation of the Bible: Joseph Smith Jr. had been raised in a Bible-reading family amid a Bible-fearing culture. Of course it was an integral part of his life. In the course of translating the Book of Mormon he learned that many plain and precious truths had been taken from the Bible and must needs be restored, and that is our story of this episode of History of the Saints. Scholars: Kent Jackson

What’s the deal with the Joseph Smith translation of the Bible? In this episode, Bryan, Lindsay, and Christopher explore what Joseph Smith did and what he might have been trying to accomplish when he attempted his own translation of the Old and New Testaments. Listen to this episode here. 

The Joseph Smith Translation of Luke 12 make a significant change to some information Jesus provides his apostles. Whereas the KJV has Christ talk about a lord who could come in either the second watch...

A few months ago, Dr. Thomas Wayment made headlines in the Mormon community when he came out with news that the Joseph Smith Translation of the Bible relied heavily on Adam Clarke's Bible Commentary. https://youtu.be/UOvu0O88sXM Thom:  A student assistant of mine, Haley Wilson-Lemmon, was working for me about four years ago now. And I've worked on the JST my whole career. It's been interesting because it makes a claim to originality, at least modern Mormons claim that. And so, I've been probing it throughout my career. And, I had begun to think that Joseph Smith used a variety of sources, but I hadn't nailed it down. And so, I said to Haley, I think you should take Buck's Theological Dictionary. I think you should take Thomas Scott's Notes and I think you should take Adam Clarke and start comparing it to a series of test passages in the JST and just see what crops up because I'm suspecting there's influence, but I don't know. And she comes back, and we look at the column of Adam Clarke and it's overwhelming. There are some strong parallels. And so, over the course of about 12-14 months, Haley compared every single JST to all of these and we have a massive amount of data, and sure enough it. It's very clear. It's conclusive that Joseph Smith used Adam Clarke. And when I say use, I want to stick by that term. This isn't him simply saying, "Okay, here's three sentences in Clarke. I'm going to copy it out and call that inspiration." It's not that. He has words that come from Clarke that now come into kind of an expanded sentence that Joseph has created. Clarke will recommend flipping the order of verses and Joseph will do that. Weird words like unicorn in Isaiah, Joseph will go to [Clarke] to realize that's not unicorn. And so, he'll add [Clarke]'s statement about it or he'll say, this is re'em. What implications does that have for Latter-day Saints of faith? Thom:  That's really been how the conversation has kind of taken life, which in some ways is unfortunate. In some ways it is a good moment for pause. What I see as a scholar is it's confronted a narrative about the JST that people have, that the JST is a moment of absolute revelation. No other influences happened that he was giving us the Bible as it was originally. And if you had that view, it's going to be a hard thing. And, yet as a historian, it's unfortunate. Joseph never made that claim. He never tells us that the Lord commanded him to start it. There is no revelation that currently exists where he is directed or says he was directed to go translate the Bible. We find him recording a commandment to work on Matthew but not Genesis. And so, in this sense, he never canonized it. He never, if you will, said, "This is the original Bible." And during this time, he has another statement that we refer to as a revelation. "Seek ye out learning from the best books." And for heaven's sakes, that's what he's doing it. It's really a practical process. I suspect that there are other sources. I suspect it's not just Clarke and in the coming years, I'll play that hand a little more broadly. But this is him working on the Bible. For the Latter-day Saint who feels confronted by this, we know he studied Hebrew after this. He's trying to engage both his role as prophet, so he owns the text in one sense, but he continually feels like, "I need some training." And Clarke is a really good resource of the day and a modern scholar wouldn't feel that and I don't feel that, but of the day it's very good and I think he comes to trust Clarke. I think later he says, "Well, maybe I could learn Hebrew. And he does some work in Hebrew in Kirtland 1835 period. And I think again, like he went with the Book of Mormon, he went to Luther Bradish, he goes to Charles Anthon and others to say, "Can you help me?" Or, "Can you translate this?" He has a scholarly component in every one of his translations and that to me seems pretty normal. But, maybe to the modern believer it might confront a narra...

Maxwell Institute Conversations are special episodes of the Maxwell Institute Podcast, hosted by Terryl Givens and created in collaboration with Faith Matters Foundation. Audio and video available. A lot has changed for Thomas Wayment since this he sat down for this conversation with Terryl Givens. At the time, Thom was a professor of ancient scripture working on a new translation of the New Testament intended for Latter-day Saints. Now he's teaching classical studies and his translation has been published by the Religious Studies Center and Deseret Book—just in time for Latter-day Saint Sunday school's focus on the New Testament. This conversation focuses on his new translation and other insights from his work in biblical scholarship. About the Guest Thomas A. Wayment is a professor of Classical studies at Brigham Young University, where he previously worked as publications director of the Religious Studies Center and as a professor of ancient scripture. He received his BA in Classics from the University of California at Riverside and his MA and PhD in New Testament studies from the Claremont Graduate School. Dr. Wayment's research interests include the historical life of Jesus, New Testament manuscript traditions, the life of Paul, and the Joseph Smith Translation of the Bible. The post MIConversations #7—Thomas Wayment with Terryl Givens, “Translating a new New Testament” appeared first on Neal A. Maxwell Institute | BYU.

We're continuing our discussion (see part 3 here) with Jim Vun Cannon, a counselor in the First Presidency of the Remnant Church.  In this episode, we'll talk about Remnant Church Scriptures.  Some of these revelations tell people to gather to Missouri.  We'll first talk about their version of the Doctrine & Covenants. GT:  Have you had any revelations?  How many have you had since 1984? Jim Vun Cannon:  Considering our church started about 1999-2000, about 18. GT:  About 18, wow.  That's about one a year. Jim:  Yeah, pretty much. GT:  Can you about what are some of those revelations that you've had since 2000? Jim:  A number of those revelations are directional.  As far as revealing doctrine, per se, so like when you look at Joseph Smith, Jr. and you look at his revelations, there's a lot of doctrines that he's revealing that we see there. Gather to Missouri Now! Some of these revelations tell the saints to gather to Missouri. Jim Vun Cannon:  Our revelations as we call them from the Remnant Church forward, you'll see a lot of direction around building community, so we were to go and build community in eastern Jackson County and so we're doing that again, and we have done that. GT:  So you're gathering to Missouri. Jim:  More or less.  Yes, we are already in Missouri.  Those of us there are starting to build that because we believe that Zion is a literal place, and that it is the kingdom of heaven on earth where God the Father will dwell and so we are trying to do the best we can. ... GT:  That's an interesting idea.  It seems like in the LDS Church when I was growing up there was this talk about returning to Missouri but I'll bet in the last 20 years you don't hear that in the LDS Church anymore.  Nobody talks about going back to Missouri anymore.  We're very happy in Salt Lake.  We're building Zion where we are.  That's interesting to me.  I do believe that's something with the Community of Christ as well as the Remnant Church.  That's a big piece of your doctrine and theology is gathering to Jackson County.  Is that correct? Jim:  Correct, yes.  If you want to look at what really, of all the different groups that are out there, that is a defining point.  How you define the kingdom changes a lot of things.  It really does.  As you look at it, some believe that there's nothing you can do.  They look at it as Zion's going to show up one day.  If you're worthy then you get to go in.  If you're not worthy, you're not going to get to go in. We believe that we can actually build Zion and it's a process that we go through and that at some point we'll become sanctified to where it will be the Zion that is spoken of. Do you wish the LDS Church had more revelations, or is this simply the function of a new church to get more revelations than an established church?  Why do you think the LDS Church doesn't emphasize gathering to Missouri anymore? Pearl of Great Price? I also asked Jim Vun Cannon from Remnant Church about the Pearl of Great Price. Jim Vun Cannon:  The Book of Moses you're talking about, as best I understand that's the same thing we have in our Genesis.  The Inspired Version is what we call it.  The Joseph Smith Translation what you have, that's what we call the Inspired Version. GT:  Oh so you actually include that as part of your Bible. Jim:  It is actually—the scriptures for members actually have that in there.  The King James is really used just for those who are non-members.  We're witnessing to them, we have a common point of reference, the King James. GT:  Oh so you would have the six books of Moses then. Jim:  Yeah, I guess that would be fair to say that, yeah. We'll also talk about chiasmus in the Book of Mormon.  Check out our next conversation with Jim Vun Cannon of Remnant Church!  (Don't forget parts 1, 2, and 3!) [paypal-donation] https://youtu.be/dCEEwJloDv8  

We continue are discussion with Dr. Brian Hales.  (Part 1 is here.)  He has written a comprehensive history of Joseph Smith's Polygamy (Volume 1, Volume 2, and Volume 3.)  In this episode, I'll ask him about Dr. Mark Staker's claim that Black Pete may have been responsible for introducing polygamy into the Kirtland period. Joseph knew the Old Testament, he knew Abraham had more than one wife and Jacob, so why would we need to think that it was Black Pete that was introducing this in a very real way, especially when Joseph wasn't supportive of so much that was going on when he first arrived down there, and the types of spiritual experiences that they were expressing in their church meetings and things like that.  So I'm a little dubious on that, but I just applaud Mark.  I say go forward and let us know. He also makes an interesting statement about the Joseph Smith Translation of the Bible. I believe all of these principles came to Joseph line upon line, precept upon precept.  Some of the exciting things that are happening down at BYU, Thom Wayment and others are looking at the Joseph Smith Translation very carefully and discovering that it really shouldn't be thought of as actual scripture in and of itself, that it was a chance for Joseph to expand upon the text to make the Bible text correspond with the theology that he was receiving through revelation, or through communications that he portrayed to be from God. I asked Brian about differences in biblical polygamy and Doctrine & Covenants 132. GT:  Well so I guess my question is as far as 132 and Genesis, does it seem to you that there's a difference among those two scriptures as far as whether God commanded Hagar to be a plural wife or whether Sarah was totally responsible? Brian acknowledges the accounts are different, but it doesn't bother him. Brian:  So for me to see the JST Genesis and that it doesn't necessarily say what comes in 1843 doesn't surprise me because of the line upon line, precept upon precept process. What do you think about these different accounts about Hagar's marriage to Abraham?  Does it bother you that these two accounts seem to differ in whether God commanded the marriage, or Sarah suggested it? Check out our conversation… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFPSq1M2Rpg&t https://gospeltangents.com/shop/transcripts/polygamy-dc-132-conflict-jst-genesis/