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"I DIED?!?!" We are here with Tony-nominated actor, L. Scott Caldwell. You Might Know Her From Insecure, Lost, The Fugitive, Bad Monkey, How to Get Away with Murder, Waiting to Exhale, The Net, Soweto Green and the Broadway production of Joe Turner's Come and Gone. L. Scott gave us all the scoop on acting opposite Crystal the Monkey in Bad Monkey, bringing her personal story to Rose's story on Lost, and working with August Wilson on the Broadway production of his 1988 play Joe Turner's Come and Gone. All that, plus being killed off as Molly's mom on Insecure (she forgot!), working with Uta Hagen and the Negro Ensemble Company, and what she learned from Joe Pantoliano on the set of The Fugitive. L. Scott was a total dream and we hope you love it as much as we did!  Patreon: www.patreon.com/youmightknowherfrom Follow us on social media: @youmightknowherfrom || @damianbellino || @rodemanne Discussed this episode: Rob Lowe as Stone Phillips and Shaggy Sarah Michelle Gellar as Posh Spice (Chris Kattan as Mel Be) and Debbi Matanopolous The Curious Case of Natalia Grace made into a mini-series with Ellen Pompeo called Good American Family Anne currently binging 2 seasons of Making a Murderer on Netflix  Parker Posey in The Staircase  True Crime Con featured Jon Benet Ramsey's father was the keynote speaker My Favorite Murder We tried to convince Jiggly Caliente to do Lorena Bobbit on Snatch Game Cult-y video Damian sent Anne on TikTok We are currently reading Sarah Schulman's books: People in Trouble, Stagestruck L Scott plays Jodi Turner Smith's grandmother in Bad Monkey Fear of cats: Ailurophobia Had a chemistry test with Crystal the monkey L Scott played Molly's mom, “CeeCee” on Insecure  Dies in A Million Little Pieces, The Gridiron Gang, Insecure Played Rose Nadler of Rose and Bernard on the phenomenon known as Lost Co-starred in big 90s movies like The Fugitive, Devil in a Blue Dress, The Net, Waiting to Exhale Aggie Rodgers was the costume designer for The Fugitive Richard Jordan dies while shooting of The Fugitive  and was replaced with Jeroen Krabbé Soweto Green written by Mfundi Vundla NEC: Negro Ensemble Company Was named “Nombula” = bringer of the rain Won a Tony for her role In Joe Turner's Come and Gone on Broadway  A Play of Giants at Yale Rep 1984  NEC members: Barbara Montgomery, Frances Foster, Michele Shay, Adolph Caesar, Graham Brown, Charles Brown, Samm-Art Williamson OG company: Hattie Winston, Judyann Elder, Rosalind Cash, Denise Nicholas,  Men: Norman Bush, Allie Woods, Robert Hooks,  NEC: The Room and it moved to Broadway the next year Uta Hagen promoted some movie called The Other on Mike Douglas show Got injured going toe to toe with Viola Davis in How to Get Away with Murder Has played a judge, lawyer or doctor more times than she can count Tom Petty music video for “Don't Come Around Here No More” and Genesis “Land of Confusion” video with giant Reagan puppets  

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Series: All! Jesus has all authority, So that all nationsMight pledge all allegiance to him.Title: “How is God just and generous in salvation?”Scripture: Matthew 20:1-16Heavily indebted to Douglas Sean O'Donnell's commentary for this message. (See below)Bottom line: God's gift of salvation is both just and generous:It's just, so we don't grumble about God's mercy to anyone;It's equally gracious, so we don't begrudge his unequal generosity.Main point: God's gift of salvation is just and generous.A. God's gift of salvation is just, so don't grumble (complain) about God's undeserved grace (or mercy).B. God's gift of salvation is equally gracious (to all), so don't begrudge (look upon with disapproval) w/God's unequal generosity. (Envious or jealous)DISCUSSION QUESTIONSSERMON OUTLINE & NOTESMAIN REFERENCES USEDDISCUSSION QUESTIONSDiscussion questions for group and personal study. Reflect and Discuss1. What does the parable of the workers in a vinevard teach us aboutGod's grace?2. How does the misguided approach of the disciples beginning in Matthew 20:20 parallel your own approach to God and the Christian life?3. How does Jesus' healing of the blind men in Matthew 20:29-34 contrast with the request for privilege by James and John in the previous paragraph?4. Why can't grace and pride coexist? Can you think of other Scriptural passages that speak to this truth?Final Questions (optional or in place of above)What is God saying to you right now? What are you going to do about it?Find our sermons, podcasts, discussion questions and notes at https://www.gracetoday.net/podcastWeekly questions I answer in preparation for the sermon:Q. What do I want you to know? A. That God is just and generous in saving people.Q. Why? A. Because we tend to live as if we deserve it. And there's very little gratitude in that perspective. In fact, we do not deserve it.Q. What do I want you to do? A. Evaluate your relationship with God. Do you believe you deserve salvation? (You don't) Do you believe you can earn your salvation? (You cannot) Q. Why? A. Because salvation is a gift to the damned. None of us deserve it. All of us need it. OUTLINE & NOTESIntroductionJeffrey Lionel Dahmer (/ˈdɑːmər/; May 21, 1960 – November 28, 1994), also known as the Milwaukee Cannibal or the Milwaukee Monster, was an American serial killerand sex offender who killed and dismembered seventeen men and boys between 1978 and 1991.[4] Many of his later murders involved necrophilia,[5] cannibalism, and the permanent preservation of body parts—typically all or part of the skeleton.[6]Although he was diagnosed with borderline personality disorder,[7] schizotypal personality disorder,[8] and a psychotic disorder, Dahmer was found to be legally saneat his trial. He was convicted of fifteen of the sixteen homicides he had committed in Wisconsin and was sentenced to fifteen terms of life imprisonment on February 17, 1992.[9] Dahmer was later sentenced to a sixteenth term of life imprisonment for an additional homicide committed in Ohio in 1978.On November 28, 1994, Dahmer was beaten to death by Christopher Scarver, a fellow inmate at the Columbia Correctional Institution in Portage, Wisconsin.Jeffrey Dawlmer coming to Christ. Stone Phillips interviewed Dawlmer where he learned that Dawlmer, his father and his pastor all testify that Jeffrey believes we all will stand before Christ and answer to him. He trusted Jesus as Lord and savior according to all 3.Dateline NBC has also broadcast an interview with Dahmer. Conducted by Stone Phillips and first broadcast on March 8, 1994, this 90-minute episode—titled Confessions of a Serial Killer—features interviews with Dahmer and his father conducted at Columbia Correctional Institution. Dahmer's mother is also interviewed for this program.[363]Context:“The time had come for the owner of a vineyard to harvest his grapes. The permanent workers on his farm were not numerous enough to complete the harvest in time, so when harvest time came, as many farmers did in the ancient world and still do today, he went looking for day laborers he could hire. Such laborers customarily came to the marketplace in the hope that they would be chosen to labor that day and would gain the standard pay for a day's work in Israel, which was one denarius”Excerpt FromMatthew - An Expositional CommentaryR.C. Sproulhttps://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewBook?id=0This material may be protected by copyright.God's gift of salvation (eternal life; kingdom of God; kingdom of heaven) is generous in just, gracious, and merciful.The landowner wasJust—he paid them all what he agreed to pay them which was fair market value (one day laborers wages). And they all agreed to this up front. They all were paid the same amount. They were probably happy at the beginning of the day because someone hired them enabling them to gain a wage that day. While their circumstances did not change during the day, their expectations did.Perceived as unjust—the workers who were first hired perceived this generosity to be unfair because the last were paid for a full day when they worked < a full day. As a result, they grumbled/complained to the landowner.Grace—While some worked all day (earning their fair share of the wages), the rest worked less than a day and yet were generously paid more than they deserved.Mercy—Some did not get what they deserved (in their minds) which was more than what the latter workers received. Yet, none of them deserved the work. They were mercifully given the opportunity to work when they had no way to create payable work on their own. They were literally at the mercy of a landowner hiring them that day.8A little bit more…Also, keep in mind that this was a time of harvest requiring extra workers. Therefore, in addition to his normal crew, he was bringing other day laborers who needed any kind of work they could get. Therefore, it's safe to assume that they were harvesting grapes—not just tending to the fields. This matters because it reminds us that this imagery is about more than grace, mercy and justice. It's about the harvest. God doesn't just graciously save people to save them. He saves them to serve…in the harvest. This is part of what is referred to as the “Lordship debate”. Does Jesus save, end of sentence. Or does Jesus save that we might join him in saving others? I believe it's both—and. I believe that we demonstrate that our faith is genuine and our salvation real when we join him in the harvest. Otherwise, I think it's safe to say there's evidence to the contrary. When someone saves your life, you feel like you could do anything for them. When you are forgiven a great debt, you live your life grateful for what you don't deserve—more life. When Jesus saves you from sin and death, shame and guilt, hell itself, and you understand this, you find yourself eager to serve God and serve people to this end.Do you?“In the parable, a large group of the workers received grace. One group received justice. However, no one received injustice. But the workers who labored all day thought they received injustice. They thought the owner owed them something”Excerpt FromMatthew - An Expositional CommentaryR.C. Sproulhttps://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewBook?id=0This material may be protected by copyright.“If we were to try to list everything God owes us, it would be the easiest task we were ever assigned, one we could complete in record time. The truth is, He owes us nothing except His wrath as punishment for all our sins”Excerpt FromMatthew - An Expositional CommentaryR.C. Sproulhttps://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewBook?id=0This material may be protected by copyright.Yet, we owe God an infinite debt—our sins are debts against a holy God. Like the servant who owed the king a gazillion dollars, we owe God way more than we could ever pay back. Excerpt from David Platt:Main point: God's gift of salvation is just and generous.A. God's gift of salvation is just, so don't grumble (complain) about God's undeserved grace (or mercy).B. God's gift of salvation is equally gracious (to all), so don't begrudge (look upon with w/God's unequal generosity. (Envious or jealous)Symbolism:Landowner/Master = God the Father; the Lord GodWorkers = Christians; some more and some less in the eyes of the world (and the church)Harvest = Work of the gospel in the worldMatthew 9:37-38 says, “Then he said to his disciples, “The harvest is plentiful but the workers are few. Ask the Lord of the harvest, therefore, to send out workers into his harvest field.””‭‭Matthew‬ ‭9‬:‭37‬-‭38‬ ‭NIV‬‬ https://bible.com/bible/111/mat.9.37-38.NIVJUSTICE - getting what you deserveGRACE - getting what you DON'T deserveMERCY - NOT getting what you deserve“Whenever Jesus teaches on grace…he teaches lordship salvation.” -O'Donnell“The traditional Protestant position is that salvation is by grace alone in Christ alone through faith alone, but such faith is never alone—it produces fruit. Faith loves. Faith works. Faith obeys. If such fruit is not found, then the assurance of salvation cannot (should not) be offered. Jesus must be both Savior AND Lord.” -O‘DonnellA last point:2 rules to the grace game:Grace and works. Jesus calls us laborers and workers in his kingdom harvest work. Everyone of them in this parable works in the vineyard, presumably for the harvest. The master goes and puts the idlers to work because grace by faith WORKS!Grace and rewards. These workers were GIVEN a job to work. Jesus rewards every worker who works (gives evidence he's a worker (Christian)). And they're doing a specific work too. They are working in the kingdom harvest. Are we?ConclusionBottom line: Q. What do I want you to do? A. Stop grumbling and begrudging God and people who are just and generous.Q. Why? A. Because he tells us to. Because you know that God is just and generous and that's enough.Notes“20:1-16 Different hours, same wages?Christ told a parable about a landowner who paid the same wages to all his workers even though they had done vastly different amounts of work. God has the sovereign right to reward us for our work as he sees fit.Anything he gives us, whether small or great, is a gift of grace and is more than we deserve.” -Wilmington's Bible HandbookMAIN REFERENCES USED“Preaching the Word” Commentary, Douglas Sean O'Donnell, Edited by Kent Hughes“Matthew” by RC Sproul“The Bible Knowledge Commentary” by Walvoord, Zuck (BKC)“The Bible Exposition Commentary” by Warren Wiersbe (BEC)“Exalting Jesus in Matthew” by David Platt (CCE)Outline Bible, D WillmingtonNIV Study Bible (NIVSB)ESV Study Bible (ESVSB)

Heya Cheeseheads.Join us this week as we dive into Dahmer part 3. The goal was to do this in three parts, but we didn't want to leave anything out, so be on the lookout for Dahmer part 4, which will be posted immediately after this.Love ya!Sources Include:My Friend Jeffrey Derf Bachderf, Dahmer's Confession by John Berowski, A Father's Story by Lionel Dahmer, Stone Phillips 1994 interview, LPOTL, Netflix show, The Dahmer Tapes on Netflix, WIKIPEDIA

Heya Cheeseheads.Join us this week as we dive into our final episode on this monster, Dahmer part 4. Thank you for helping us to get this out of our brains.Love ya!Sources Include:My Friend Jeffrey Derf Bachderf, Dahmer's Confession by John Berowski, A Father's Story by Lionel Dahmer, Stone Phillips 1994 interview, LPOTL, Netflix show, The Dahmer Tapes on Netflix, WIKIPEDIA

Hey Cheeseheads!Join us this week as we continue to unpack the truly horrifying case of literal garbage, Jeffrey Dahmer, and the human lives and futures and families he took during his reign of terror on the North side of Milwaukee.Sources today include:My Friend Jeffrey Derf Bachderf Dahmer's Confession by John Berowski, A Father's Story by Lionel Dahmer, Stone Phillips 1994 interview, LPOTL, Netflix show, The Dahmer Tapes on Netflix, WIKIPEDIAFirst 6 minutes are rough for sound, but it gets fixed, we promise!

Heya Cheeseheads!Join us this week as we jump on the bandwagon this Spooky Season to discuss the knitty gritty that is the case of Jeffrey Dahmer. We all know at this point that he's a puke stain in human form, but we hope to offer some Midwestern-- more specifically Wisco-- context to the social constructs, culture, and historical implications of this twisted tale.Sources for today include: My Friend Jeffrey by Derf Bachderf, Dahmer's Confession by John Berowski, A Father's Story by Lionel Dahmer, NBC's 1994 Stone Phillips interview, Last Podcast On the Left, Monster: The Jeffrey Dahmer Story and The Dahmer Tapes on Netflix, and WIKIPEDIA per usual.Wisco Segments starts @ 21:30 Dahmer Talk Starts @ 27:55Deep Dive Starts @ 40:30

Jeffrey. Dahmer. One of the most notorious serial killers in American history. Everybody knows his name. But do YOU know his true story? Join us as we dive deep into the cannibalism, the darkness and the bloody truth behind one of America's deadliest citizens. This, is Pt. 2 of the Jeffrey Dahmer story. And you're listening, to MURDER IN AMERICA. We used portions of interviews with Jeffrey Dahmer conducted by Nancy Glass and Stone Phillips in this episode. This podcast episode is sponsored by BetterHelp!! Our listeners get 10% off their first month at betterhelp.com/MIA. If you love our show, go try it out so we can get more ads and produce MORE episodes of the show!!

Jeffrey. Dahmer. One of the most notorious names in true crime. You may THINK that you know the true story of "The Milwaukee Cannibal", but, do you REALLY? Do you know about the jogger that he almost killed? How about the fact that Jeffrey brought flasks of alcohol to class in middle school? This podcast is DARK. GRUESOME. And VERY thorough. This is Pt. 1, of the unbelievable story of serial killer Jeffrey Dahmer. And you're listening, to MURDER IN AMERICA. (Episode Notes: We used audio from the interview between Stone Phillips & Jeffrey Dahmer, and his parents Lionel and Joyce. We also use audio from an interview with Jeffrey Dahmer conducted by Nancy Glass)

The Value of High Style The Value of High Style is where we talk to a top designer and a top art collector, two men who make their living knowing the difference between good and great, as we try and understand the relationship of great design with real estate.  John Barman has been honored as one of the AD100 by Architectural Digest, one of “The City's Best 100 Architects and Designers” by New York Magazine, and his work has been featured in the New York Times, Esquire, Interior Design, Traditional Home, and W, among other publications. His renowned clientele includes Wynton Marsalis, George Stephanopoulos and Alexandra Wentworth, Leonard and Allison Stern, Bryant Gumbel, Stone Phillips, Neil Simon, and Larry Silverstein. Barman was born and raised in New York City, and graduated from the Wharton School at the University of Pennsylvania before turning to interior design and founding his eponymous firm. Our second guest, Richard Grossman, is best known as the President of Brown Harris Stevens where he manages all of the regional offices. What most people don't know about Richard is that he is a collector and expert in the subjects of midcentury modern architecture, contemporary and midcentury modern furniture and contemporary art at the very highest levels. We've all heard of the mythical Ferrari in the barn stories. Richard lives that myth. He and his husband Adam discovered a long- abandoned and crumbling apartment in the famed midcentury-modern Butterfield House, purchased it and undertook an extensive 2-year restoration. He has promised to give us a glimpse of the apartment during the show. What I want to know from Richard is where is the line between doing it for the passion versus making a wise investment? What is the value of a name brand architect or a name-brand designer? How has that changed? We want to understand Richard's process of choosing architects and designers, what went right, and what can we learn from his experience. Lastly, I want to point out a recent story in the Wall Street Journal that quotes Richard entitled, Custom Art is Helping High-End Homeowners Paint a Clearer Picture where he is quoted as saying, “Art by a well-known artist can also lend a cachet to the property, which is particularly important in higher-end listings . . . Walking into a home with high ceilings and a 9-foot high Christopher Wool painting in the foyer is very dramatic—and it certainly says someone successful lives here. That statement resonates with high-end buyers,” said Mr. Grossman. 

This week on the show we have 4 of the most talented interior designers in the greater New York area. I mean really top-drawer talent. We want to know from the very best designers about how they are thinking about the market for 2021. Let's discuss the intersection of designers and realtors, architects, builders and buyers.  How can top designers and real estate professionals help one another where it is mutually beneficial?Sometimes realtors need fast design, just enough style in order to sell it. So, how is staging different from styling?What room usually bothers the clients most? How can the designers help?Let's talk about design as a good investment. Is great design measurable? I see well-designed houses selling for 50% more than Zillow says its worth. Let's talk interior design as investment.Let's talk about the amateurs. I suspect that a lot of us try and save money and simply do it ourselves, copying the work of great designers. What separates the very best in the business from the amateurs?How has the business changed since Covid? What is the silver lining? This week's show is Lisa Ben-Isvy's idea and she'll be co-hosting with us. Lisa is the former publisher of New York Spaces and now has her own business connecting top interior designers, architects & realtors.John Barman - John Barman has been honored as one of the AD100 by Architectural Digest, one of “The City's Best 100 Architects and Designers” by New York Magazine, and his work has been featured in the New York Times, Esquire, Interior Design, Traditional Home, and W, among other publications. His renowned clientele includes Wynton Marsalis, George Stephanopoulos and Alexandra Wentworth, Leonard and Allison Stern, Bryant Gumbel, Stone Phillips, Neil Simon, and Larry Silverstein. Denise Davies - As D2's founder and CEO, Denise leads the design and product teams at D2Interieurs and is personally an avid collector of mid-century modern art, artifacts, and furniture. Prior to launching D2 in 2010, Denise had a 20 year career as a fashion executive in New York City, Los Angeles, and Florence. An active member of the design community in Fairfield County, Denise has expanded the D2 portfolio to include over 75 residences in New York City, Easthampton, Southampton, Fairfield and Litchfield Counties as well as throughout New York's historic Hudson Valley and most recently South Florida. John Douglas Eason - John honed his unique aesthetic in the style obsessed culture of Dallas – Fort Worth. The dramatic interiors of his youth sampled freely from historic styles and imbued John with a broad design vocabulary. In his first decade as an interior designer, John developed refined and richly crafted spaces while working on the grand homes of Greenwich, Connecticut. John's longstanding Manhattan-based practice has enabled him to work closely with clients over the years, evolving with them as their homes and families change and grow. At the core of John's work lies a sophisticated modern sensibility, tempered by respect for traditional design. Anjali Pollack  - New York based interior design firm Anjali Pollack Design was established in 2004. Since inception our goal has been to make each home entirely personal. Every project is a close collaboration between us and our clients; every space is tailored to the needs and aesthetic of those who will call it home. We create modern classic homes for the global traveler to live. Our aesthetic incorporates diverse styles to evoke an ambience that is subtly lavish, eclectic and intriguing. Making bold use of color, blending traditional and modern, our homes are vibrant, livable spaces.

Welcome back for part 2 of Jeffrey Dahmer, WWBD's examination of one of the world's most notorious serial killers ! This week we dive into Jeff's crimes and confessions, it's the all murder and courtroom edition. Hang on to your hats fiends because this is a graphic one. Last week we brought  you the man inside the monster, and this week we truly see the monster in the man. *All sound clips are taken from Stone Phillips' 1994 interview with Jeffrey Dahmer, which originally aired on NBC, and can be found in full in the link below. Click to Learn MoreDahmer Interview with Stone Phillips (YouTube)Lionel and Shari Dahmer Interview with Larry King (YouTube)Joyce Flint (Dahmer) Interview in Hard Copy (YouTube)Join the Conversation      

Joe used to live with Jeffrey Dahmer's ghost. Ace of Base made that song you definitely know. It's odd for a person to choose to be a Nazi. My Girl 2 ruined Rob's life. Joe found 7 full beer bottles buried in his chicken run. Some cops found 32 bodies buried under a clown's garage. There are people chained up in basements right now. Thank you, truckers, for keeping America going and murdering three people each. In 1999 Rob feared death and got a haircut and wrote mysteriously about how Jeffrey Dahmer could've led a more productive life if only he hadn't wasted so much precious time killing all those guys. Rob might not have empathy but he sure behaves like he does. Free will is not real. Choose to click play. Thanks. booyahpodcast@gmail.com / 857-626-6924

Content note: animal abuse, murder, rape, sexual violence, torture, necrophilia, child molestation, drug use and misuse, cannibalism, gross details of so many things, sanism, and ableism. Photo: Dahmer's sketch of his body altar, courtesy of Oxygen. Even thought part one wasn't even an hour, I wanted to be rid of Dahmer as quickly as humanly fucking possible, y'all. So, part 2 is almost two hours long... but we don't have to talk about it anymore. This episode starts right as he moves into the notorious apartment on North 25th Street. For the early stuff, make sure to listen to the first episode. Resources Wiki Biography Crime Museum Inside the Mind of Jeffrey Dahmer: Serial Killer’s Chilling Jailhouse Interview 1991 Vanity Fair piece Jeffrey Dahmer Trial Victim Impact Statement Highlights (video) 5 Of The Most Shocking Moments From The Jeffrey Dahmer Trial 9 Mind-Blowing Quotes Made By Serial Killer Jeffrey Dahmer Dahmer on Dahmer Sneak Peek from Oxygen 2 Servicemen Reveal Their Stories Of Being Sexually Abused By Jeffrey Dahmer These Are The Chilling Crime Scene Photos From Jeffrey Dahmer's Apartment Stone Phillips interview Murderous Minds: Inside Serial Killers S1E7 on Amazon Prime All the other links I said I'd include Study Shows Mentally Ill More Likely to Be Victims, Not Perpetrators, of Violence True Crime Obsessed - Episode 40: Kidnapped For Christ Bruce McArthur (Toronto serial killer)How alleged Toronto serial killer Bruce McArthur went unnoticed Toronto serial killer destroyed gay safe space Grad student claims she tipped off police to serial killer a year ago The sad predictability of Toronto’s alleged serial killer Patreon poll Transcription Welcome back to the Spooky Sconine podcast. This is the podcast that covers everything that is paranormal, criminal, spooky and just plain weird from the state of Wisconsin. This is the second episode in the Jeffrey Dahmer Series. If you haven't listened to the first one, go back and catch that because there are going to be some things I talk about in here that I explained in the first episode. And also like you wouldn't watch the last half of the movie, right? Like, go listen to the first one. ----more---- When we last left Jeffrey Dahmer, he had just convinced a judge he was going to change his ways after molesting a child. Let's rejoin him a year later, shall we? On May 14th, 1990 Dahmer moves out of his grandmother's house where he had had to move back into it, because of the molestation charge and having just gotten out of jail and all that jazz. He moves into apartment 213 at 924 north 25th street and takes any momentos he'd kept from his previous victims, including the mummified head and genitals of Anthony Sears. Within one week of moving into his new apartment, he had already killed his sixth victim. Raymond Smith was a 32 year old sex worker who Dahmer lured to his apartment with the promise of $50 in exchange for sex at the apartment. He gave Smith a drink laced with seven sleeping pills and manually strangled him. The following day, Dahmer purchased a Polaroid camera with which he took several pictures of Smith's body in suggestive positions before dismembering him in the bathroom. This all becomes a very major part of his M.O. and, with very few exceptions, this is what he tends to do with the rest of his victims from here on out. He boils the legs and arms and also the pelvis in a steel kettle with Soilex, which allows him to then rinse the bones off in his sink. He dissolves the remainder of Smith's skeleton with the exception the skull in a container filled with acid. Dahmer later spray paints Smith's skull, and he places it alongside the skull of Anthony Sears upon a black towel inside a metal filing cabinet. About a week later - and it's on or about May 27th - Dahmer lures a young man to his apartment but he fucks up. Um, you know how he spikes the drink, right? He'll go and he'll be like, "oh, I'm going to make us a drink." And then he sneaks the sleeping pills into the one drink. Well, just this one time he forgets which drink is which and drinks the laced drink himself. He wakes up the next day and his intended victim stole a bunch of his close $300 and a watch. He doesn't report this to police, natch. You know, when you have like a severed head hadn't genitals, you don't report this. On May 29th, though, he does share that he'd been robbed with his probation officer because, remember, he's also still on probation, you know, for molesting a kid. In June of 1990 he brings a 27 year old acquaintance to the apartment named Edward Smith. He drugs and strangles Smith and instead of just immediately acidifying the skeleton or going through his normal process, he actually puts Smith's skeleton in his freezer for several months because he thought maybe it wouldn't retain as much moisture, which like from a scientific background, bruh, no, this is not going to work. Obviously it didn't work and then he acidified the body like later on. He'd destroyed the skull on accident because he placed it in the oven to dry and it exploded. It exploded! Later, he told police that he felt 'rotten' about Smith's murder since he didn't get to keep anything from the body. Less than three months later he meets a 22 year old Chicago native named Ernest Miller on the corner of north 27th street. Miller agrees to company Dahmer to his apartment for $50 and then is like, oh, you want to listen to my heart and stomach? Okay. Dahmer decides, 'mm, since I'm here I might as well try to suck your dick.' And Miller says, 'you know what, that's going to cost you extra.' So that's when Dahmer goes and grabs the drinks. He only had two sleeping pills to put in Miller's drink though. So he is out for a very short amount of time and when he wakes up suddenly in the middle of Dahmer doing stuff to him, Dahmer kills him by slashing his carotid artery and he does this with the same knife he uses to dissect the victims bodies. So it's a knife he really has taken time to like sharpen and make sure it's in the best possible form, which to be honest, is kind of a godsend in this type of a situation because I'd rather have something sharp nick my carotid and die quickly then try to have someone use like a very dull knife to do that. He bleeds to death within minutes, but not before Dahmer grabs his Polaroid camera and is like taking pictures of Miller dying and bleeding out. He puts Miller's body in the bathtub for dismemberment after he does the sex to it. While he is dismembering the rest of the body, he takes time to like kiss Miller's face and talk to him, which everything I read was really um, happy to point that out with this victim. But I'm pretty sure if you're going to do it to one victim, you probably do it to most victims. And let's be real. How many of us don't talk to random stuff when we're doing things? Like I talk to random stuff all the time, like, 'hey, cherry coke, how you doing? I'm going to put you in my mouth.' Um, which I am, but like, you know, I cannot be the only other person who does this and also isn't a serial killer. That's all I'm saying. He wraps Miller's heart, Miller's biceps, and parts of his legs in plastic bags and puts them in the fridge so he can eat them later. He boils the rest of the flesh and organs, and they turned into this jelly like substance because again he's using that Soilex and he wanted to keep the skeleton. So he rinses it off, puts the bones in this light bleach solution for 24 hours and then allows them to dry like, like you would with dishes, right. Um, and this is all stuff that his father had taught him to do - by the way. The severed head was initially placed in the refrigerator before being stripped of flesh and then painted and coated with an enamel, which is a smart move because at least it won't get as brittle as the other ones that he's had to discard at this point. He's learning. Three weeks after murdering Ernest Miller, on September 24th, Dahmer meets a 22 year old man named David. Thomas at the Grand Avenue Mall. It's a mall, but it's like weird because it's set up between several buildings and then there's like skywalks and like I, I was there like a decade ago going through the mall and being like, what the fuck is this place? It's weird. Anyway. It's not like Ye Grand Mall, okay? It's, it's a weird mall. Anyway, Dahmer persuades Thomas to come to the apartment for a few drinks and again with his MO of picking up people who are down on their luck or people who are sex workers. He offers money for nude photographs. Dahmer would later state that after giving Thomas a drink full of sedatives, he felt bad because he realized all of a sudden he wasn't attracted to Thomas, but he was still afraid to allow him to wake up in case he would have been angry about being drugged. So he decides to go through with strangling and dismembering. Since he wasn't attracted to Thomas, though, he intentionally doesn't keep body parts. He does take photographs throughout the dismemberment process and keeps them and honestly that's part of what led them to being able to identify this victim as being David Thomas. So, as creepy as it is that he took photographs - he didn't remember people's names, he probably didn't know many names - and these photographs at least allowed us to find the victim's families and let them know what had happened. I can't believe I'm saying I'm kind of grateful for these photographs. Jesus Christ. Um, okay. He doesn't kill anyone for like five months. He tries to bring a couple of guys back to his apartment during that time period. But like, you know, it just wasn't happening. So he takes all of that creative energy, you know, that you use when you do the same thing over and over again to dead bodies and starts planning the altar he wants in his apartment. And this is really interesting because it's got like different sets set ups. So he wanted this black shower curtain behind the altar, um, and was going to put that in front of a window. And then, um, I'll put a link in the show notes because this is wild. So on either side he's got skeletons that have been painted. And then there's a black table where he has the skulls that he's saved that have been painted. And then there's like one of those funky lights that has like several different bulb things coming down behind that in front of the window. And then he has like a little plaque above the window and a chair set up in front of the altar so that, you know, he could, uh, sit there and look at it. It's so creepy. He is also known to regularly complain of anxiety and depression to his probation officer throughout this time. And you know, talks a lot about being gay, being alone, not having a lot of money. And this is when he also starts talking about feeling suicidal. He was really careful if you think about it to select victims on the fringe of society. They were often itinerant or criminal or even criminal by association. They were children at times or even slightly older people, not too old, but still. And often he went after, men who were not white. Um, his first two victims were white. But I think the bulk of the rest of them are Black, Hispanic, Native American/Indigenous, and Asian. Like he picks people who are not white on a regular basis. And this actually led, once he's captured, to a lot of racial tension in Milwaukee, which is consistently battling with St Louis to be one the most segregated cities in the United States. Like whatever one is number one, the other one is either number two or three like it. They are consistently in the top three. Um, and just because it's 2019 doesn't mean that's changed a ton. I gotta tell Ya. In February of 1991, he observes a 17 year old named Curtis Straughter standing at a bus stop near Marquette University. He brings Straughter back to his apartment again with the idea of giving him money in exchange for nude photos. And he's also like, 'Hey, I'll pay you to do the sex.' Dahmer drugs and and strangles Straughter with a leather strap. Then dismembers him and keeps his skull, hands, and genitals. The head is put in the freezer along with several other heads at this point. On April 7th, he meets 19 year old Errol Lindsey who iss walking to get a key cut. Now Lindsey was straight, but Dahmer somehow gets him back to his apartment, drugs him, and this is where he starts his major experiment to try to zombify his victims because remember, he doesn't necessarily want them dead - and he later says this in interviews - but he wants them to not leave him. And what's the best way to get someone to not leave is to have complete control of them. And if somebody is in a Zombie like state, you can do that a lot easier then, uh, you can with just keeping them bound, especially in a safe way too. So, after being drugged, uh, Lindsey winds up with a hole in his skull - Dahmer drills a hole in and he pours hydrochloric acid right into Lindsay's brain. Lindsay wakes up, um, and says, 'I have a headache. What time is it?' He then collapses on the floor and, um, just keeps holding his head. At this point, Dahmer drugs him again and strangles him because he's like, well, this didn't work. He decapitates Lindsey, keeps his skull, flays the body, and actually places his skin in this solution of cold water and salt AKA like a brine for several weeks because he wanted to keep it. But of course that doesn't work. Um, so he tosses it eventually. At this point his apartment smells like awfulness and the other residents in the Oxford apartment building are continually like repeatedly complaining to management about foul smells, about falling objects, about hearing a chainsaw, etc. The manager Sopa Princewill contacts Dahmer in response to these complaints several times. Although Dahmer initially excuses the odors because he's like, 'aw, my freezer keeps breaking. And the, you know, the stuff inside got spoiled.' 'Oh my tropical fish just died. So they're kind of smelly and I haven't had a chance to like clean everything out,' et cetera. But we'll come back to his neighbors cause it will get wild. Anthony Hughes is a friend of Dahmer's and he's Deaf and mute. Um, so he can't hear and he can't speak. He communicates by signing with his hands and also by lip reading for people who don't know how to sign back to him. They are hanging out somewhere else when Dahmer's like, 'hey, you want to hang out at my house?' So they go back to the house, he drugs Hughes, drills a hole in a skull, and injects acid like he previously tried. But this time - and I'm not sure if it's because of the volume or the location of where he drilled - um, the injection winds up killing Hughes and Dahmer gets really sad about that. Like, he didn't want to kill his friend, he just wanted to keep him around and um, he gets really depressed. Like, I don't know... If you don't want to kill your friend, maybe don't do stuff that could kill your friend? That's all I'm saying. That's why I don't text and drive with friends in my car - only on my own. Um, he leaves Anthony's body to rot on his bedroom floor before dissolving it in acid several days later. And actually his body comes into play in this extremely close call I'm about to talk about. On the afternoon of May 26th in 1991, he meets a 14 year old kid on Wisconsin Avenue. The kid's name is Konerak and I cannot pronounce the last name because I am so white. Um, I'm going to try [failes miserably several times] Sinthasomphone. Um, I'm just going to keep calling him Konerak because I don't want to mess up his name several times. Um, he approaches Konerak and is like, 'Hey, I'll give you money for pictures.' And the kid's like, 'okay.' Um, actually the kid's really reluctant at first and then comes with him. He poses for two pictures in his underwear before Dahmer drugs him. Um, while he's drugged, he performs oral sex on this kid. And it's important to note this kid is actually the younger brother of the boy Dahmer molested in 1988 and was convicted of molesting after the kid had to go get his stomach pumped, um, from being drugged. And you know, the kid didn't know that Dahmer was that guy. He didn't remember. This is a couple years later. Um, but Dahmer also doesn't recognize kind of the familial resemblance. Um, it's not until quite a long ways later that they figure this out. But while Konerak is drugged, Dahmer drills a hole in his skull and injects hydrochloric acid right into the frontal lobe - o the front of your head. Before Konerak falls unconscious, Dahmer leads him into the bedroom where Anthony Hughes' body is sitting on the floor naked. And Dahmer says that he believed Konerak saw the body, but Konerak didn't react to it, which is probably because of a mixture of being really sedated and then also, I don't know, having acid in your brain. Soon, Konerak passes out. Dahmer drinks several beers while sitting there next to him and then is pretty sure that the experiment has failed again. He is really upset. So, now that he's out of alcohol, he decides he's going to go drink at a bar and then buy alcohol and come back and he's gone for a few hours. Konerak manages to not only wake up but to escape despite being injured and being incredibly out of it. Um, this kid was a bad ass. Dahmer's neighbor Sandra Smith calls police to report that there's an Asian boy running naked in the street and it's the early hours of the next day when Dahmer comes back to his apartment and he is greeted by Konerak sitting naked on the corner of 25th and state speaking in Lao - cause he he's Laotian - with three distressed, uh, young ish women standing near him. He approaches the trio and explains that Konerak - he uses a fake name by the way - was his friend and tries to get him back into the apartment, but the women are like, 'oh no, no, no, motherfucker. We called 911.' So, 2 officers show up - John Balcerzak and Joseph Gabrish. Dahmer is like really relaxed and he knows he's got to put on a show. So he tells the officers that Konerak who was 14 was his 19 year old boyfriend who had had too much to drink after they fought. And that he just acts like this a lot when he's drunk. The three women were like, 'Excuse the fuck out of me. Do you see that this kid is like actively bleeding from his ass and that he doesn't want to go anywhere with Dahmer? And like, this kid has been hurt.' The officers tell her to butt out, shut the hell up, and not to interfere in this "domestic situation." So the officers have a towel with them, they wrap Konerak up in it and bring him back to Dahmer's apartment. They do try to verify the claim that Dahmer and Konerak lovers. So Dahmer shows them like these pictures he'd just taken of the kid along with his neatly folded clothing - because if he was a victim, why would he fold his clothing, et cetera. The officers later report having noted a strange smell that kind of smelled like shit, um, inside the apartment. And clearly it was coming from Hughes' decomposing body. Dahmer stated that to investigate this, one of the officer's peeked his head around in the bedroom, but he clearly didn't take good look because he missed the body on the floor. The officers leave and tell Dahmer to take good care of Konerak. The thing is, had these officers done their due diligence and at least run a background check, um, like run Dahmer through their system? They would have seen that he was a convicted child molester and on probation. Um, and probably would have investigated this more deeply, especially since this kid is clearly a kid. Like I know it might be hard to tell whether someone's 14 or 19, but I think when you add the layer on that he's a convicted sex offender, that that gets less difficult. The cops leave and Dahmer's like, 'okay, time for round two.' He injects hydrochloric acid right into the frontal lobe again and um, kills Konerak. He takes the next day off of work to devote the entire day to dismembering the bodies of both Konerak and Hughes, and he keeps their skulls. Within a few days, there's an article that appears in the local paper about Konerak being missing and one of the women who had tried to protect him that night calls the police to tell them that like this was that kid. The police don't follow up with her at all. So we've had two spots right here where women - and probably honestly Black women - are saying like, 'Hey, this is this guy. This is what he's doing. Hello.' And police failed to investigate throughout this, this like giant murder period, right? Dahmer is able to maintain his job at Ambrosia Chocolate Factory. His friends and family weren't really suspicious even when they came to his house cause he would take care to really clean up before he let people come over. If he knew his family was coming, you know, he'd clean up, et cetera. The only thing that his father was suspicious of is, you know, Dahmer hasn't revealed that he's gay. By now, Lionel is like, 'yeah he gay - probably,' but they don't talk about it because toxic masculinity. To quell the neighbors, Dahmer by now has had a 57 gallon drum put in his apartment that he's filled with hydrochloric acid. So this way he's able to like dissolve bodies right away - very quickly - and has multiple ways of doing so, meaning less smell at this point. He also knows he needs to change things up a bit because that was really close call with Konerak. So he decides to take a Greyhound bus - cause he doesn't drive - to Chicago, which is about, well on a greyhound bus it's probably closer to three hours of a trip. You can make it in like an hour and a half depending on how fast you're going. That's all I'll say. On June 30th he meets a 20 year old named Matt Turner at the bus station. Turner is like, 'okay, I'll come with you to Milwaukee' because Dahmer has convinced him that he is a professional photographer and is going to have a photo shoot. At Dahmer's apartment, he drugs, strangles, and dismembers Turner, placing his head and internal organs in separate plastic bags in the freezer. Everything else was put into a vat of acid. Turner winds up not ever being reported missing. Five days later on July 5th, he lures a 23 year old - mm, I've seen his name either as Jeremy or Jeremiah. I'm going to go with Jeremiah - Jeremiah Weinberger from a Chicago bar to his apartment to spend the weekend with him. Before accepting the offer, Jeremiah asked a friend who he was at the bar with if the friend thought Dahmer was a safe person and that this would be okay. And the friend was like, 'okay, yeah, no, he seems really nice' - like after having a conversation. The two actually wind up having a really nice couple of days, um, until Weinberger's like, 'hey, I really got to go home. Like I have to go to work and shit.' And of course that's the part Dahmer hates. So he drugs Weinberger after requesting one last drink together. He twice injects boiling water into Weinberger's skull. The first time it didn't seem to work at all and Weinberger wakes up seemingly okay. Dahmer drugs him a second time and does the second injection that sends him into a coma and he actually dies 2 days later. During this kind of waiting period. Dahmer's like, 'okay, I'll go to work. Like, it's fine.' Even after that close call, which I think is brazen. Um, and he comes home after a shift to discover Weinberger dead. The body is dismembered and dissolved an acid, but the head is added to the growing collection in the freezer. The friend who greenlit Weinberger's visit to Dahmer's place later commit suicide because he feels hella guilty. I know what you're thinking right now. Uh, with all of these heads and body parts in the freezer, Dahmer was running outta room, right? He was. Like, honestly, he had no room for real food in his fridge or his freezer. Um, that really didn't stop him. On July 15th, he meets 24 year old Oliver Lacy at the corner of 27th and Kilburn. Lacy was an aspiring body builder and had just moved to Milwaukee from Illinois to live with his girlfriend and their kid. And Dahmer was like, 'Ooh, I like the muscle boys.' So, again, the proposition of posing nude and Lacy agrees. He goes back to Dahmer's apartment and they do some sexy times before Dahmer drugs him. Dahmer really wanted to spend as much time as possible with Lacy while Lacy was alive. So he tries to render Lacy unconscious with chloroform, which does not work. He has to strangle Lacy. And then, um, he has sex with the corpse before dismembering him. He placed Lacy's head and heart in the refrigerator and his skeleton in the freezer. And he had asked for like a days absence during all of this from work, which was granted, but then he was suspended because he kept missing work, right? And then his performance was getting shit. And on the 19th, he actually gets word that he's fired. He doesn't get to come to work anymore and he's distraught, he's pissed. And he goes to bar and approaches 25 year old father of three, Joseph Bradehoft. Like many other victims, he promised cash in exchange for nude photos. Bradehoft was strangled and left laying on Dahmer's bed covered with a sheet for two days. And on the 21st he removes the sheets to find Bradehoft's head covered in maggots. It's gross. He decapitates the body then cleans the head and places it in the refrigerator - which like, brah, that just had maggots - like, why? He later acidifies Bradehoft's torso along with those of the other two victims he killed within the previous month - so along with Lacy's body and Weinberg's. So that's kind of the end of his lucky streak. On July 22nd, 1991, he approaches three men with an offer of $100 to accompany him to his apartment to pose nude for photographs again. Um, but he throws in like, 'Hey, I've got a bunch of beer we can drink and we could just hang out.' Out of the trio, one of them agrees to come to the apartment and that's 32 year old Tracy Edwards. The other two agree to come party later, but Dahmer gives them the wrong address so they don't interrupt his fun. Upon entering Dahmer's apartment, Edwards notices it smells and also sees the acid on the floor. And he asks about it and Dahmer's like, 'Oh yeah, like I do Xyz for work. I use those to clean bricks.' Dahmer keeps pressuring Edwards to get naked and drink a spiked drink and he quickly changes from the sweet talker Dahmer from the bar to very pushy and angry. Edward's decides he probably should leave, and Dahmer distracts him and put a handcuff on his wrist. By the time Edwards is like, 'wait, what's happening?' Um, Dahmer brings Edwards to the bedroom to pose for nude pictures. While inside the bedroom, Edwards notes that there's nude male posters on the wall and that there is a video tape of The Exorcist III playing. This was Dahmer's favorite movie at the time and especially during those last couple of weeks - he got increasingly obsessed with it for some reason, nobody knows. Edwards also notes that 57 gallon drum in the corner that smells. Dahmer brandishes a knife and informs Edwards he intends to take nude photos of him. So Edwards unbuttons his shirt and says he would allow him to do that as long as he takes off the handcuffs and puts the knife away. In response to the promise, Dahmer simply just turns his attention towards the TV. Edwards sees Dahmer rocking back and forth and chanting before turning his attention back to Edwards. He places his head on Edwards' chest, listens to his heartbeat, and then with the knife pressed up towards his neck says that he intends to eat Edwards' heart. Edwards repeatedly says, 'you know, I'm your friend. I'm not going to go away. I promise. Like you don't have to worry, you don't need to attack me.' In his head, Edwards had already decided he was going to have to jump from a window or bolt through the unlocked front door at the next opportunity he had. Edwards says he needs to go to the bathroom and then he asks if they could sit with a beer in the living room because that's where the air conditioning unit was. And Dahmer agrees. So the pair walk to the living room. As soon as Edwards is done in the potty, inside the living room, Edwards waits until he observes that Dahmer has a momentary lapse of concentration. And then he asks to use the bathroom again. So Edwards gets up from the couch, saw that Dahmer was not holding onto the handcuffs, and he turns & punches Dahmer in the face - which knocked him off balance - and Edwards bolts for the front door. By about 1130 - and this is on July 22nd - he has flagged down 2 Milwaukee police officers at the corner of North 25th Street. Um, it took a while for them to understand this was not a domestic thing, but they did notice that he had handcuffs on his wrist. Um, and Edwards explains to them that a "freak," that's what he said, had placed the handcuffs on him and asked if the police could remove them. The police officers try but their keys failed to fit that brand. So Edwards, um, agrees to show the officers where this apartment was that he just spent, you know, several hours and they go. Dahmer invites the three people inside and acknowledges that yeah, he did put handcuffs on Edwards, but he says nothing about why - not a thing. And normally he's so quick with those explanations. At this point, Edwards also tells the officers Dahmer had brandished a very large knife and that this had happened in the bedroom. Dahmer says nothing about that. And he tells one of the officers that the key to the handcuffs was in his bedside dresser in the bedroom. So that officer goes to enter the bedroom. Dahmer tries to kind of block him to get the key himself. And the second officer tells him to back the fuck off. In the bedroom, [Officer] Muller notices that there is indeed a large knife beneath the bed. He also sees an open drawer which, upon closer inspection, contains tons of Polaroid pictures... Not only of naked dudes, but also of, like, the dismemberment process. He notes that the decor in the photos is the same as the apartment that they are in right now. He walks in the living room and shows them to his partner Robert Rauth and says, uh, these are real. When Dahmer sees that Muller's holding several of the Polaroids, he starts fisticuffs with the officers to try to resist arrest. They quickly overpower him, cuff his hands behind his back, and call a second squad car for backup. At this point, Muller is, um, you know, looking around, doing more investigating and opens the refrigerator to reveal the freshly severed head of a black man sitting on the bottom shelf. He's later recalls that he heard someone screaming before realizing that it was him. Like he was screaming himself. Dahmer is pinned on the floor by Rauth and he turns his head towards the officers and mutters the words "for what I did, I should be dead." Uh, yeah. Well, Edwards is deemed a hero. The publicity also is a negative thing for him. It helps the state of Mississippi catch up with him. They had a warrant out for his arrest due to sexually assaulting a 14 year old girl. Um, at least allegedly. He's arrested and charged with a crime, but I can't find anything about the outcome. I tried. By 2011, he is back in Milwaukee. He is homeless and he gets into a fight with two other homeless men, one of whom falls off of a bridge that they are on and drowns. Edwards winds up with time in prison and probation for, um, like aiding and abetting because - Well, one of the things that I saw said the guy just fell off. The other thing that I saw said the other guy pushed him off and then Edwards stayed quiet. And so that's why he got charged. I don't know. I don't know. But that shit's gone down. Back to Dahmer in 1991. A more detailed search at the apartment conducted by the Criminal Investigation Bureau reveals a total of four severed heads in Dahmer's kitchen. There are seven skulls - some painted, some bleached - in his bedroom and inside a closet. They discover collected blood drippings upon a tray at the bottom of Dahmer's fridge because apparently motherfucker does not clean that shit out. They also find 2 human hearts, part of an arm muscle, and those are all wrapped inside plastic bags on the shelves. In Dahmer's freezer, they discover an entire torso - plus a bag of human organs and flesh is stuck to the ice at the bottom of the freezer. [humorous wretching noises] They also discovered two skeletons, a pair of severed hands, 2 severed and preserved penises, a mummified scalp, and in the 57 gallon drum, three further dismembered torsos dissolving in the acidic solution. Um, there winds up being a total of 74 Polaroid photos that detailed dismemberment and sexual stuff. The chief medical examiner later states that it was more like dismantling someone's museum than an actual crime scene. Beginning in the early hours of July 23rd, Dahmer is questioned by detectives Patrick Kennedy and Patrick Murphy as to the murders he committed and the evidence found at his apartment. Over the following two weeks, the detectives conduct numerous interviews with Dahmer which, when combine,d wind up equaling to about 60 hours of face to face time with this motherfucker. He had waived his right to have a lawyer present and said he wanted to confess because he had "created this horror and it only makes sense. I do everything to put an end to it." He readily admits to having murdered 16 men in Wisconsin since 1987 and Steven Hicks back in Ohio in 1978. The detectives, uh, wind up being floored and disgusted because Dahmer's so matter of fact about all of this. He readily admits to performing necrophilia with several of his victims' bodies including performing sexual acts with their viscera as he dismembers their bodies in the bathtub. Now, um, what this means I have sadly learned is that he, you know... In the process of dismemberment, he cuts a hole, say like in the dude's belly button. And especially if the body is still a little warm, your body retains the most warmth in your core. I mean, you can tell if you go outside when it's cold, like your arms get cold, your legs get cold, but your core usually stays warmer because it has to cause you have like your heart and shit. Okay. So again, he, let's say he cuts a dude in the belly button and the body's kind of warm and that's a hole for things to go in... Yeah, it's gross. Uh, it's so gross. Mm. He noted that a lot of blood pooled inside his victims chests after death. So he usually would remove their internal organs first and then he'd suspend the torso. So all the blood drained into the bathroom. He then would dice any organs he didn't want to keep and then pull flesh off the body. Bones that he wanted to dispose of we're pulverized or, um, acidified with Soliex, and bleach solutions were used to aid in the preservation of skeletons and skulls that he wanted keep. He confessed to having consumed hearts, livers, biceps, and portions of thighs of several victims that he'd killed within the last year describing the increase in his rate of killings in the two months prior to his arrest. He's stated he'd been completely swept along and added. "It was an incessant and never ending desire to be with someone at whatever cost. Someone good looking, really nice looking. It just filled my thoughts all day long." This is, uh, I don't know why this is so wild to me. I mean, I do because it's a wild case, but it's, it feels so disturbing. When asked why he had preserved seven skulls and the entire skeletons of two victims, he shared about his private altar that he wanted to make. The display of skulls was to be adorned at each side with the complete skeletons of Ernest Miller and Oliver Lacy. The 4 severed heads in the kitchen we're going to be removed to all flesh and used on the altar and he still needed one more victim to complete the skull number that he wanted on this altar. Incense sticks we're going to be placed at the end - each end of this table above which he was going to put a large blue lamp with extending blue globe lights. It those lights that are like an octopus thing, right? So you've got the stand and then there's several different arms with the, with these blue globe lights. And this is, again, all to be placed in front of a window that had been covered with a black opaque shower curtain. And then he was going to sit in front of it in a black leather chair. In a November 18th, 1991 interview, they asked who the altar was dedicated to and he said "myself. It's a place I could feel at home." He further described it as kind of a place for meditation where he felt he could draw power from, and he felt that if they had arrested him six months later, that they would have already seen the altar - that it would be complete which, at the rate he was going, I could see it. Um, I don't know if the whole thing would be complete, but he had at least have all the components he wanted. He also - it's interesting - he explained that things he does to the bodies like preserving certain parts, taking souvenirs in the form of body parts, et cetera. Um, the photos, whatever. All of that was a way of remembering. And this is, this part's a quote, "remembering their appearance, their physical beauty. I also wanted to keep - if I couldn't keep them here with me whole, at least I felt I could keep their skeletons." On July 25th, 1991, he is charged with four counts of murder and by August 22nd, he is charged with a further 11 counts in the state of Wisconsin. Again, brings the grand total up to 15. on September 14th, investigators in Ohio have like, by this time they have gone back to his childhood home and explored the woods right there and found a shit ton of bone fragments. They formally identify two mplars and a Vertebra with x ray records of Steven Hicks and he's charged by authorities in Ohio with Steven's murder. He winds up not being charged with the attempted murder of Tracy Edwards or with the murder of Steven Tuomi. Now for Tuomi, it was because the Milwaukee County district attorney only wanted to bring charges where there could be no reasonable doubt. And since Dahmer didn't actually have a memory of killing Tuomi, um, and there was like no physical evidence of it, they didn't feel like they had enough to proceed - And that including that within this larger, um, number of charges could actually hinder the ability for him to be charged successfully and like convicted. At a scheduled preliminary hearing on January 13th, 1992 he pleads guilty but insane to 15 counts of murder. His trial begins on January 30th, 1992 - the day my sister was born. I spent the day like in the hospital holding her while she slept after she was born. While she was getting pushed out, like watching The Jungle Book. Um, I dunno, for me, it was a great day. He was tried in Milwaukee for those 15 counts before Judge Laurence Gram. By pleading guilty and on the 13th, he had waived his rights to that initial trial to establish guilt, um, something that is at least required by Wisconsin law. The issue debated by opposing attorneys then is whether or not he was sane. The prosecution says that any disorders he did have clearly did not, um, deprive him of the ability to appreciate how wrong his actions were - and/or I guess that they wouldn't have deprived him of the ability to control his impulses. And the defense were like, "Nah." I mean, basically their experts argued thought he was insane due to his necrophilic drive. And one of their experts, Dr Fred Berlin, testifies that Dahmer's unable to conform his conduct at the time he committed crimes because he was suffering from necrophilia, which is also known as paraphilia. Dr. Judith Becker, who is a professor of psychiatry and psychology, was their second witness, who also, you know, comes at them with that diagnosis. And then forensic psychiatrist, Dr Karl Walstrom not only diagnosis Dahmer with that, but throws in borderline personality disorder, schizotypal personality disorder, alcohol dependence, and a psychotic disorder. All of that is a lot. But I also want us to step back and take a look at - are there people with BPD, borderline personality disorder that don't kill people? Oh yeah. Are there people who have schizophrenia or any similar disorder and don't kill people? Like all of them. Um, what about people who are dependent on alcohol? Oh, good amount of them don't kill people unless they're driving. I just want us to take a look at that because, yes, you could have those things, but those things do not drive someone to kill. Having a mental illness, having a chronic illness, having a disability, those things do not make it more likely for you to commit crimes. In fact, they actually make it more likely for you to be a victim of crimes. Um, and depending on your diagnosis, that can be anywhere from up to like two times more likely, all the way up to like 10 times more likely then, you know, the average mentally abled person. So I just wanna throw that out there. There will be links in the show notes for ya'll to educate yourself further on that if that's something you're into. This is the social justice corner for the week. Having a chronic illness, disability or mental health issue does not make you a murderer. Thank you for coming to my tedtalk. Okay. Back to this, right. The prosecution is like, "no, he's not insane." Um, one of their experts, forensic psychiatrists, Dr Philip Resnick testifies that, yeah, Dahmer likes to do the sex to dead people, but it's not a primary condition because he actually prefers live sexual partners - which is why he was trying to zombify people, right? He doesn't want them dead. He just wants him to do exactly what he wants them to do. He wants control. And so it's not true necrophilia. Another one of their experts, Dr Fred Fosdel says that he believes Dahmer was without mental disease or defect of the time he committed these murders. He says Dahmer is calculating and cunning, able to differentiate between right and wrong, and definitely able to control his own actions. He does believe necrophilia is something Dahmer deals with, but also says he's not like a sadist. He's not necessarily, um, you know, going out with this need to harm people. Um, it's essentially derived from - I'm on a wiki spiral. It's derived from the Marquis de Sade. So sadists are people who derive pleasure if they, or someone else is undergoing pain. And it can actually be a part of personality disorders, which I mean, again, we're going to take a look at and say, hmm, does it make it, does it make you a terrible person? If you have a personality disorder? No. Does it mean you're going to do bad things? No. Anyway, um, the final witness for the prosecution is forensic psychiatrist Park Dietz, and um, he begins his testimony on February 12th. He says, the Dahmer's completely sane. Um, because you know, he's gone to great lengths to be alone with his victims. He's gone to great lengths to have no witnesses. There's ample evidence that he was really prepared. These crimes were not impulsive, um, and all of that. Right? So he believes, too, that Dahmer's alcohol dependence before committing murder is something that's significant. And he says, if he had a compulsion to kill, he would not have to drink alcohol. He had to drink alcohol to overcome his inhibition to do the crime, which he would rather not do. I think that's really important. He also notes the Dahmer strongly identifies with evil and corrupt characters from The Exorcist III - which we already know he's obsessed with - and also Return of the Jedi. He also really identified with the power that these evil corrupt characters had. He saw himself on a similar level. Dahmer would occasionally like wash his favorite scenes from these movies before he went out and looked for a victim and really took power from them, which is creepy. It's creepy. Don't turn my Star Wars into your creepy stuff. I know this was before me, but don't do it - well, not before me, like before I was super obsessed with Star Wars. Given the fact that the majority of Dahmer's victims were African American. Um, there were, like I mentioned, some big racial tensions. Um, it got to the point where we were having a number of, um, you know, racial justice leaders coming in to lead marches, give talks, et cetera. Strict security precautions were taken around the trial. So there was an eight foot barrier of bulletproof glass between Dahmer and other people. Um, one of the things that also pissed off people was there was only one Black person on the jury, which like, I don't know, I'm sorry, but if a lot of this, a lot of what this person has done is negatively affected the Black community locally, you should have more than one Black person on the jury. Also like one Black person on a jury in Milwaukee is not, um, it does not represent a jury of your peers. Like I'm just going to be honest. Like it's just like in everywhere else. You wouldn't just have one Black person on a jury. It's, it makes me mad. Anyway. Um, and then another thing to note is that Lionel Dahmer, Jeffrey's Dad and his second wife, um, attended the trial throughout. Two court appointed mental health professionals both independently testifyed - forensic scientist George Palermo and clinical psychologist Samuel Friedman. Palermo thinks that the murders were result of pent up aggression the Dahmer had within himself. He wanted to kill these men cause he thought they were attractive. And so like he was trying to kill what he hated in himself and also thinks that Dahmer's a sexual sadist who has antisocial personality disorder but is sane. It's amazing how many different personality disorders they're going to try to diagnose Dahmer with - amazing. Um, Friedman testifies that it was more of a longing for companionship that caused him to kill. He says Dahmer's not psychotic, speaks kindly of Dahmer. Um, talks about how he's amiable, pleasant to be with. Nice, funny, handsome, (I don't think so) charming, et cetera. He diagnoses Dahmer with a personality disorder not otherwise specified, featuring borderline, obsessive-compulsive, and sadistic traits. I will say out of all of the diagnoses, um, that one may feel like it fits the most. Um, I'm not a psychologist, I'm not a mental health professional, but I do think that it is important to note when a personality disorder or any other, you know, mental illness has certain traits. So maybe it's just that like, I like how it's laid out. I don't know. I don't know these things. It just feels somehow a better fit than some of the others. Perhaps it also includes because it includes the obsessive compulsive trait. I don't know. Anyway, the trial lasted two weeks. On February 14th, both lawyers give their closing arguments. They speak for like two hours. The defense attorney Gerald Boyle goes first and keeps referring to the mental health professionals - just about everyone said he had some sort of mental health issue. And, um, one of the big sticking points, and it's been quoted in a lot of different things, is that he says that Dahmer's compulsive killings had been a result of "a sickness he discovered, not chose." He keeps painting Dahmer as desperately lonely, profoundly sick, out of control. Um, and you know, I can see where that could sway some people on the jury. After that, Michael Mccann delivers his closing argument for the prosecution. He describes Dahmer as sane, in full control. He simply strove to to avoid detection. He argued that that first murder in Milwaukee - again because this is for all the Milwaukee/Wisconsin crimes - that it was committed hostility and anger and resentment and frustration and hatred and all these big negative feelings and that each victim "died merely to afford Dahmer a period of sexual pleasure." He further argued that by pleading guilty but insane to the charges, Dahmer was trying to avoid accountability or responsibility for his actions. The next day, February 15th, the court reconvenes to hear the verdict. Dahmer was ruled to be sane - not suffering from a mental disorder at the time of each of these murders - although in each count, two of the 12 jurors signified their dissent. On the first two counts, Dom Dahmer was sentenced to life imprisonment plus 10 years with the remaining 13 carrying a mandatory sentence of life imprisonment plus 70 years. The death penalty was not an option because, we in the great state of Wisconsin had that abolished in 1853. Dahmer addressed the court later on and he said, Your Honor, it is over now. This has never been a case of trying to get free. I didn't ever want freedom. Frankly, I wanted death for myself. This was a case to tell the world that I did what I did not for reasons of hate - I hated no one. I knew I was sick of evil or both - now I believe I was sick. The doctors have told me about my sickness and now I have some peace... I take all the blame for what I did... I should have stayed with God,” he said. “I tried and I failed, and created a holocaust." [audibly cringing] We're going to get back to that statement in a second. I just want to finish this part. In addition to expressing remorse for victims and their families, he expressed remorse for causing two policemen to lose their jobs - the policemen that failed to rescue Konerak. He said, "I hope and pray that they get their jobs back because I know they did their best and I just plain fooled them." In both of these statements we see his cockiness, right? "I've created a holocaust." Holocaust is such a big grandiose genocidal act, which is not what he did. And all of these poor cops, I just fooled them. It's not their fault, I'm just that good. Even in this statement, he is reasserting his control of these situations and reasserting the fact that he is better than everyone else in that room. And honestly he's probably doing it with a boner. Let's be honest. People like this thrive and get thrills out of having power over other people. I mean, it's what they do, right? Of course, the statement really wasn't consoling and definitely wasn't convincing. There were a number of powerful impact statements from family members that were read. And, um, so far I've only found one video that puts together a lot of snippets of, um, some of those statements, but I'll put that link to that video in the show notes. Um, there's a really, it's really important I think, to read them, to remember that this is not just like, Ooh, creepy story, but look, this case affected so many more lives than just - 'just' - these 17 people that Jeffrey killed and then his own family, right? It's these people's families, these people's friends. It's Weinberger's friend who commits suicide, right? Because of saying that Dahmer seemed like he was okay. Um, all of these different people struggling with the actions of this man. One of the most impactful victim statements is at the very end of that video Um, so please watch it because I think that's important. Upon hearing of Dahmer's sentencing, his father and his stepmother request to be allowed a 10 minute private meeting with him before he's transferred to the Columbia Correctional Institution in Portage to begin his sentence. The request is granted and they exchange hugs, um, and well wishes before Dahmer is escorted to begin his sentence. Three months after that conviction, he's extradited to Ohio to be tried for the murder of Steven Hicks. It's really just a formality at this point because, again, he has confessed. So the court hearing lasts just 45 minutes. He again pleads guilty and he's sentenced to a 16th term of life imprisonment on May 1st, 1992. After that, he has transferred back to the Columbia Correctional Institution in Portage, Wisconsin. Um, Portage is in again, Columbia County - it's the Columbia correctional facility, right? It is technically part of the Madison metropolitan area, but to be honest, I don't know that I would consider it that. Um, it is really... I mean, I guess? It's north of Madison and just to the east of Wisconsin Dells, so it makes sense to lump it in with Madison, but it's about a 45 minute drive. Like, it is not necessarily close, but I guess that's Wisconsin for ya, right? Hooray! For the first year of his incarceration, Dahmer is placed in solitary confinement. They were worried about his safety should he come into contact with fellow inmates. And we're talking like some of the worst people are in this prison. Right? You've got other serial killers, you've got other, um, rapists, other molesters, and they all absolutely despise this man. I think there's something to be said with that. I don't know what, but... While Dahmer is isolated, he does have a television and access to books, so he's probably blasting like Exorcist III and reading all the Exorcist novels while he's holed up in his cell for a year. After that - and with his consent - he is transferred to a less secure unit after a year. Um, and then he is assigned like a two hour daily work detail, cleaning the toilets. He was actually really happy to get out of solitary because he felt his intrusive, disturbing thoughts were way more harmful than anything anyone else could do to him. He also didn't give a fuck if he lived or died. He had regular phone calls with his family. His father actually visited a lot, making the 11 hour drive from his home in Ohio. He really wanted to understand why Jeffrey committed these crimes, um. To that end, you know, he writes a book, he does a lot of interviews with Jeffrey. He tries to work to figure out the puzzle pieces that, you know, what, what was that last piece that slid into place that caused Jeffrey to really go from very excited, exuberant kid he'd been before that hernia surgery in his youth, right, to where he is now. Shortly after completing his lengthy confessions in 1991 he [Dahmer} had requested that he be given a Bible. And from then on he really devoted himself to being a Christian and you know, use the phrase 'born again.' And his father also like urged him to read a bunch of creationist bullshit. His father - Um, there is an interview I watched earlier, I'm sure it's in the links, but um, with Stone Phillips, and Stone Phillips asks Lionel what um, Lionel would have done had Jeffrey come out as gay, you know, without killing everyone. And Lionel said that he was - and this is paraphrasing, right? - he basically would have made him read the Bible and like try to do something to 'fix him' AKA probably send him off to conversion therapy camp. Which is terrifying. And if you don't know about conversion therapy camps, y'all - whoooo - I'm going to put a link in the shownotes - a couple lins for you to checkout. Um, one of which is a great episode of the podcast True Crime Obsessed (which I'm obsessed with). Um, I think that's the one called Jesus Camp. I mean, whatever one I put in the show notes is it, but if you've listened, you probably know which one I'm talking about. In May, 1994 Dahmer is baptized in the prison whirlpool by Roy Ratcliffe, who is a minister in the Church of Christ and a graduate of Oklahoma Christian University. He visits Dahmer on a weekly basis until Dahmer dies. And they regularly discuss things like death and whether or not Dahmer was sinning against God by continuing to live. And that's Dahmer bringing this up. in July, 1994, a fellow inmate Osvaldo Durruthy attempts to slash Dahmer's throat with a razor embedded in a toothbrush. Um, and it was right after Dahmer was coming back from Roy's weekly church service in the prison chapel. Dahmer gets, you know, some superficial wounds but doesn't wind up seriously hurt. They had a conversation and Dahmer's family said, you know, he'd been ready to die already and was ready to accept whatever punishments he might endure in prison. His mom, um, also retained regular contact with him at least over the phone, um, in contrast to like his dad and step mom coming to visit every so often. But prior to, um, Dahmer's arrest, he hadn't seen his mom since Christmas of 1983. Um, but now at this point he's talking to her on a weekly basis over the phone. And whenever she would express concerns about his wellbeing, he would say, 'you know, um, don't worry. Whatever happens, it'll be fine.' And this one's a direct quote: "It doesn't matter, Mom. I don't care if something happens to me." In a 1994 interview with Stone Philips - Okay, so this is the one I was just watching. It was on Dateline - Dahmer had stated that "If a person doesn't think that there is a God to be accountable to, then what's the point of trying to modify your behavior to keep it within acceptable ranges? That's how I thought anyway." So before he'd become, you know, Super Goddy, right? He didn't think there was any higher power and so he didn't think it mattered what his actions were. This is essentially what he's saying there. So now that he's born again, he realizes the error of his ways and all that good shit. Um, and supposedly wouldn't do this again. Supposedly. On the morning of November 28th, 1994 Dahmer left his cell to conduct his assigned work detail in the toilets. I just, I like the idea of Dahmer having to work in the shitter. Oh, I like it so much. Um, accompanying him were 2 fellow inmates, Jesse Anderson and Christopher Scarver. The trio wound up being left unsupervised in the prison gym, like shower, toilet area for approximately 20 minutes. And, at 8:10 AM, Dahmer is discovered on the floor of the bathrooms, suffering from extreme head and facial wounds. He had been severely bludgeoned in the head and face with a metal bar. His head had also been repeatedly struck against the wall - shit. Although he was still alive and then and then was quickly rushed to a nearby hospital, he died within an hour. Anderson had also been beaten with the same instrument and died two days later from his wounds. Scarver who had already been serving a life sentence for murder committed in 1990, um, comes clean. He tells authorities he attacked Dahmer first with the metal bar as Dahmer was cleaning a staff locker room before attacking Anderson as Anderson cleaned an inmate locker room. Um, they were in, you know, kind of separate areas, which is weird to me that they were still left on supervised - at all. According to Scarver, Dahmer did not yell or make any noise when he was attacked. He had been adamant at the time he had not planned the attacks in advance. He did later divulge to investigators that he concealed the 20 inch iron bar to kill both men in his clothing shortly before the killings, though. There were questions about how involved the prison staff might have been in these murders. Surprise. Scarver hadn't been on toilet detail until literally that morning. He completely loathed Dahmer. He carried around a newspaper clipping about Dahmer's crimes and just completely hated him. Additionally, it's highly irregular for guards to leave inmates alone together at a maximum security prison like Columbia. Hmm. Weird, isn't it? In 2015 Scarver, speaks to the New York post about his reasons for killing Dahmer. He alleged that he was disturbed not only by Dahmer's crimes, but by a habit of Dahmer, um, where he would take prison food and make it look like severed limbs and then squirt ketchup all over the place to look like blood. This fits very much in with the shit that he pulled as a kid, right? Um, and then he would like taunt and antagonize people. So that was part of the reasoning. And he also alleged that both Dahmer and Anderson had, um, taunted him during work detail while they were in completely different spots. He said he confronted Dahmer about his crimes and Dahmer seemed to be unrepentant and that's when he beat him to death. He also claimed the prison guards allowed the murders to happen and that's why they left him alone with these guys. One more thing about the death that puzzles me and many other people is that Dahmer was in really good physical shape. I mean, what do you do in prison? You work out like that's what you do - and I guess make jokes with your food. Um, he could easily have fought back. I mean, a metal bar is no joke, but like he could have fought back and Scarver says he didn't, and his wounds say he didn't. That just leads me back to this whole idea where he's shared his thoughts consistently from his teens even about being suicidal, about not deserving to live, and about questioning if living spits in the face of God. And it, it feels like he wanted it. Um, one of the things that I watched was talking about how, as a born again Christian, he knows that suicide is a no-no, but then if someone else killed you, that's not suicide and you don't necessarily have to fight back. Like I dunno. I thought that was an interesting thought. In Dahmer's will, he asked that there be no services conducted. And he stated he wanted to be cremated. And by September, 1995, he was, and his ashes were split between his parents. His estate was awarded to the families of 11 of his victims who had sued for damages. In 1996, Thomas Jacobson, a lawyer that represents eight of the families, announced that they were planning an auction of his estate. Although victims' relatives stated that the motivation wasn't greed, 'eople were like, oh my God, you're so greedy. Like, dude, I don't know, especially for the people who had kids - at this point, they've gone without, um, you know, the income that parent would have had. I don't know. It's not greed to ask for any sort of reparations or monetary or property payment. I would say like for wrongdoings that you've been through. I think honestly like early nineties peoples weren't there yet in the mindset there was not enough Judge Judy {laughs] I hate that bitch. She's an awful human being. So just FYI. A civic group, Milwaukee Civic Pride was quickly established in an effort to raise funds to purchase and destroy Dahmer's positions. They pledged a little over $400,000 including $100,000 gift by a Milwaukee real estate developer for the purchase of Dahmer's estate. Five of the eight families agree to the terms and Dahmer's possessions were subsequently destroyed and buried in an undisclosed landfill in Illinois. Oh my God. I accidentally scrolled like way up. That was terrifying. On August 5th, 1991 a candlelight vigil to celebrate and heal the Milwaukee community was put on and over 400 people attended. So it was really well attended. There were community leaders, gay rights activist, family members, and they really wanted it to be a spot for people to share their feelings of anger and pain and frustration. And it worked. You know, they got out those feels. And I think it did bring the community closer together, although it also definitely pointed out - like this whole shenanigan right pointed out the lack of fucks the police gave about queer people and especially queer people of color. That's still going on. And the recent serial killings in Toronto are a, uh, good way to say that this, uh, It's not a thing of the past. I'll put a link to that too. I'm going to put a link to everything. The Oxford apartments where Dahmer had killed 12 of his victims were demolished in November of [1992]. The site is a vacant lot still. Um, there've been like these thoughts about like, oh, how do we, how do we fix this piece of land? Do we build a memorial garden or a park or a playground or new housing? And it just never happens. Which honestly, from a ghost perspective, pretty glad about. Lionel released a book in 1994 called A Father's Story where he explores Jeffrey's life and tries to examine what happened. He also talks about their similarities. It's pretty interesting, like I watched a snippet of him reading some, and it was interesting. I think we all have some issues about having control over things. But Lionel tended to blame himself and then also his wife who had been on some medications during like her pregnancy with Jeffrey, that Lionel's pretty sure caused Jeffrey to be a serial killer. I don't think that's how it works, dude. In fact, I'm like 99.999999 to the ninth percent sure that's not how it works. Jeffrey's younger brother - cause remember he has a younger brother - David, he changed his last name. He lives in anonymity. He's not doing any fucking interviews and shit. He's not having it and honestly good for him cause fucking bullshit. I wouldn't want my sister to have to deal with that. I will say it's interesting. Um, there is an odd amount of pride that Wisconsinites seem to feel talking about Dahmer and it's weird. Um, there's an episode of the Netflix show Dark Tourist where he visits spots in the United States and one of the tours they go on is The Cream City Cannibal Tour and it is so disturbing. They make a lot of jokes, which like, okay, I'd probably laugh at the jokes, but then they have like some jump scares along the tour route and stuff? And that just feels wrong. I mean, the jokes are probably a bit much too, if we're honest, but like jump scares? it's wrong. Um, and I mean that tour had been shut down for a time to get it's shit back together before it started to back up. So there's some shit. Um, you know, the other thing is that there's just so much incredibly wrong when we have tours that are light hearted and also only exists to cash in and make light of what happened? And I would say, especially when those tours tend to attract white women. You know, the, the bulk of the audience on this Dar

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Stone Phillips presents never-before-seen footage from his "Dateline NBC" interview with serial killer Jeffrey Dahmer recorded in 1994.StarsJeffrey Dahmer(archive footage)Lionel Dahmer(archive footage)Shari Jordan(archive footage)