Podcast appearances and mentions of Trey Smith

Here are all the segments:00:00 – Chief Concerns Opener00:43 – BetOnline.AG 01:36 – Former NFL LB Shawn Barber joins the show and talks his love for puzzles and talks about The Kingdom.03:39 – The guys react to the Week 5 loss and the 2-3 start.30:32 – How can the Chiefs defense replicate the second half performance that forced the Buffalo Bills into three straight 3-and-outs?40:37 – The crew talks about the turnover bug that has been impacting our offensive's ability to get into a rhythm.50:01 – Game Picks: Chiefs are a 6.5-point favorite against the Washington Football Team in what some might call the Shawn Barber Bowl, since Shawn played for both teams!56:20 – Extra topic: Who should be the main return man? End of show!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Here are all the segments:00:00 – Chief Concerns Opener00:43 – BetOnline.AG 01:36 – Former NFL QB Tyler Thigpen joins the show talks about his time in Kansas City, being one of the first to run a Spread or Pistol system in the NFL and talks about the emergence of Coastal Carolina Football.13:28 – The guys discuss the takeaways from the Chiefs 42 to 30 win in Philadelphia.25:02 – The crew discusses the importance of having a bend but don't break defense with having a high-powered offense.47:26 – Josh Gordon has been elevated to the active roster and will play in Week 5 against the Buffalo Bills. What should we expect from Josh Gordon on Sunday? Thigpen who was a teammate with Gordon in Cleveland back in 2014 talks about playing with Josh.1:04:02 – Game Picks: Chiefs are a 2.5-point favorite against the Bills in what some might call the Tyler Thigpen Bowl, since Tyler played for both teams!1:10:33 – Goodbye!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Chiefs Rookie guard Trey Smith joins the show. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

With Andy Reid being taken to the hospital after the game on Sunday and seemingly not wanting to address it on Wednesday, we wonder what the proper way to discuss his health and future is. Also: - Sexual Healing by Marvin Gaye turns 39… so we have some fun - Salvy closing in on 50 - Chiefs rookie guard Trey Smith joins the show - Jingle of the Week See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Here are all the segments:00:00 – Chief Concerns Opener00:43 – BetOnline.AG 01:36 – The guys talk about their reaction on the Chargers game, AFC West, Raiders, Broncos, and Chargers early season success, Clyde's fumble.16:10 – Is it time to sound the alarm after the Chiefs' back to back loss against the Ravens and Chargers? 34:32 – What is wrong with the defense? Are any of the failures related to the scheme?45:35 – Our WR2 has arrived! What are your thoughts on Josh Gordon?58:32 – Game Picks: Chiefs are a 7-point favorite against the Eagles1:01:03 – Goodbye!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

9/29 We hear from Andy Reid, Patrick Mahomes, Trey Smith and Ben Niemann live after practice. Then, Jason and Cory discuss what they heard, including what Reid and Mahomes had to say about new Chief Josh Gordon. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Hear from Chiefs head coach Andy Reid (:33), quarterback Patrick Mahomes (9:54), guard Trey Smith (21:02), and linebacker Ben Niemann (27:30). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Here are all the segments:00:00 – Chief Concerns Opener00:43 – BetOnline.AG and Balance7.co advertisements 02:50 – Former Chiefs Linebacker Derrick Johnson Joins the Show to talk all things Chiefs and little bit of the Texas Longhorns11:25 – With Chiefs players taking to social media to engage with fans about the loss, the guys react to the NFL during the social media age. 16:48 – The guys talk about CEH's fumble. 24:03 – The guys talk about Hardman, D-Rob, and Pringle needing to step up.30:27 – Why aren't the Chiefs utilizing CEH's pass catching ability?33:06 – DJ wants to know how Eric would cover Travis Kelce.36:38 – Jason tells us if Tony ever improvised on his routes like the way Kelce does.38:54 - DJ shares his thoughts on the Chiefs LBs through the first 2 weeks48:11 – The guys talk about the defense's failures in the red zone.52:04 – The guys talk about the Raiders and an improved AFC West.1:04:27 – Memories playing the Chargers.1:08:05 – DJ remember Eric's pick 6 against the Houston Texans.1:09:55 – DJ talks about if he could play in modern NFL with these new rules.1:12:05 – Game Picks and predictions.1:16:28 – DJ Signs Off!1:17:03 – Playactionpools.com advertisement1:18:31 – Former Chiefs Linebacker Mike Maslowski and former Chiefs CB James Hasty joins to talk Chiefs, old stories, and about his new coaching consulting company aimed at getting the best coaching candidates hired. The coaching consulting company is called Eneje Consulting.2:36:14 – Goodbye!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Here are all the segments:00:00 – 00:43 – Chief Concerns Opener00:43 – 02:50 – BetOnline.AG and Balance7.co advertisements 02:50 – Former Ravens Wide Receiver Mark Clayton talks about Ravens, Lamar Jackson, Oklahoma Sooners QBs in the NFL, and bets with Eric Warfield6:03 – Chief Concern 1: Recapping Browns @ Chiefs - Chiefs narrowly escape Week 1 with a victory over the Browns. 17:22 – Chief Concern 2: What do the Chiefs and Ravens need to fix if they want to contend for the Super Bowl. 27:07 – Playactionpools.com advertisement28:07 - Chief Concern 2 Continued: What do the Chiefs and Ravens need to fix if they want to contend for the Super Bowl.29:17 – Chief Concern 3: Who has the bigger edge between the Ravens and Chiefs?1:03:20 – Chief Concern 4: Game Picks1:04:10 – Goodbye!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Here are all the segments:00:00 – 00:43 – Chief Concerns Opener00:43 – 02:50 – BetOnline.AG and Balance7.co advertisements 02:50 – 27:07 – Former Chiefs Safety Jarrad Page catches up with the crew and talks injuries in the NFL, officiating in the NFL could lead to longer careers, and they talk about new rules in college/NFL.27:07- 28:07 – Playactionpools.com advertisement28:07 – 42:25 – Chief Concern 1: Between Mathieu, Gay, and Clark, which injury is the most concerning going into Sunday? 42:25 – 50:35 – Chief Concern 2: Are we more worried about our new Offensive Line or revamped Defensive Line going into Sunday?50:35 – 1:00:41 – Chief Concern 3: Who has the bigger edge between the Browns and Chiefs?1:00:41 – 1:14:56 – Chief Concern 4: Game Picks and Super Bowl Prediction.1:14:56 – 1:15:20 – Goodbye!1:15:20 – 1:34:49 – Bonus Content – Jarrad Page talks to the guys about playing baseball and many other topics!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Have you had a few failures in the agency world? Everyone is afraid of failure. But when you change perspective and treat it like a lesson instead of a defeat. That's the lesson from today's guest, Frank Kern, a well-known marketing consultant and agency owner who has ventured to start several agencies over the years. In this episode, Frank discusses some of his failures from these past businesses, the lessons learned, and what he would do differently. He offers valuable advice for anyone starting a digital marketing agency. He offers an honest and upfront take on every stumble, from starting in the advertising world without really knowing the rules, not listening to his own advice, and taking on every client, even the bad ones. Don't be afraid to start over. Frank shares the knowledge he has gained over the years starting different agencies and learning from the mistakes made in each new venture. He has never been afraid to start over. “That's what I love about the advertising business,” he says, “it's never going away”. So there's always a new opportunity waiting for the ones who dare to take that step and learn from past mistakes. He is now enjoying his most successful venture and is very glad everything happened as it did. Don't try to grow too fast. This is the first lesson Frank has taken from his past agencies. Where in the past he used to take as many clients as he could get, now he sets a target. Five clients a week. This enables him and his team to not be reactive and build out operations. It's been a learning curve for them. Drilling into the process, making sure there are checklists, getting better at inner team communications. But Frank says it's been worth it and that he's definitely seeing the results. Take accountability. Having a business partner is not easy and takes serious commitment. Some prefer to not even attempt it. Frank has been lucky to have a few amicable separations from past partners. The secret? He doesn't really know, but he shares the importance of taking accountability for your mistakes. “If things are your damn fault, you have to realize they're your fault”. YOUTUBE AUDIO LINK Sponsors and Resources Wix: Today's episode is sponsored by the Wix Partner Program. Being a Wix Partner is ideal for freelancers and digital agencies that design and develop websites for their clients. Check out Wix.com/Partners to learn more and become a member of the community for free. Subscribe Apple | Spotify | iHeart Radio | Stitcher | Radio FM Don't Be Afraid to Start Over in the Agency World, Just Like Frank Kern Jason: [00:00:00] What's up, agency owners? Jason Swenk here, and I have another amazing guest, Frank Kern. If you guys haven't heard of, uh, he is amazing. I've learned so much from him over the years on writing copy and marketing and direct response. Kind of the godfather of direct response marketing. A lot of you guys know Frank Kern and he's done a bunch of agencies in the past, so we're going to talk about his experience with marketing and his agency. Let's go ahead and get into the show. What's up, Frank? How's it going? Frank: [00:00:40] Dude, I was just watching the intro roll. I love the just two seconds of pensive staring off into the distance. Jason: [00:00:47] Well, I don't want to lose anybody's attention. Especially people with ADD like us. So, you know, you got try to keep them there. Frank: [00:00:55] I didn't tell you this pre-interview. So if I don't make any sense today it's because I have dyslexia and ADD and I woke up at 12:52 and… No, or 12 something, and my dyslexia… I mean, I have the biggest font size ever on my watch. And I thought it was, I thought it said 4:52. So I took my ADD meds, which I keep right beside the bed. And they kicked in. I've been awake since 2:00 AM I'm just like… so stupid right now. Jason: [00:01:24] There you go. Well, that makes it fun for a podcast. Frank: [00:01:28] Yeah, that's my disclaimer. Jason: [00:01:30] Awesome. Well, um, for the people that have lived under a rock for a little bit… Tell us kind of a little bit of your origin story about how and why you've wanted to create an agency over the past couple of years. Frank: [00:01:45] Uh, okay. I'll be mercifully brief because this isn't even remotely interesting for anybody. Um, sold credit card machines door to door. Hated it, very bad at it. Um, Googled or there wasn't Google back then, it was 1999. Did a search for how to sell credit card machines on the internet cause I didn't wanna have to talk to people. They were all mean to me because I was going door to door and interrupting their, uh, place of business. Discovered direct response marketing and advertising that way and started selling courses. Sold one that got me in trouble with the government. Um, it's important to learn the rules of advertising if you want to do advertising. I did not learn them, but, uh, after that I did. And um, then, sold stuff about dog training and kind of cut my teeth on that and sold a lot of marketing-related information. And always felt like… It's going to sound really weird, but I always felt like it didn't count, you know? Like that's… to use my, uh, my late grandfather's term it's Mickey mouse BS. And I was like, I need to do it for real. I need to actually build campaigns and do stuff with real businesses. So it was for that reason and because I absolutely love advertising and I get to hit refresh on other people's stats besides my own. Um, that's why I did it. Jason: [00:03:00] Yeah. Well, um, you, uh, like I told you a couple of years ago, you kn… I found you and Jeff Walker and a couple other people through a Tony Robbins event I went, where they sent out the, I guess the money masters or something. And that's right when I was coming off selling the agency and I'd never heard of direct response at all. And I was like, wow, if I could put this together with what I know here… I was like, man, this could be a pretty good machine. Uh, so I want to thank you for, for, for doing what you've done over the years. And, and, uh, you've been… Someone that has really figured out how to make someone kind of respond to you. You know, especially in the marketing front. What what's kind of like, how did you go about figuring that out? Or was that just kind of intuition? Like I know you were saying, well, I just hated getting kicked out of strip joints and all these kinds of restaurants I was going into. I needed to get them to come to me. You know, how did you figured it out? Frank: [00:04:05] Well, I started by making horribly egregious unsubstantiated claims in advertising because that's what I responded to. And of course, I didn't realize there were things like regulatory bodies. This is again in 1999. And then I learned that you really can't do that and it's frowned upon. Um, so I wanted to see, well, what, what if you don't do that at all? And, um, I kind of stumbled over the whole philosophy of results in advance, which is the easiest way to convince somebody you can help them is to actually help them in advance of asking for their business. So that's always been my big secret, you know, and it was just doing that. Jason: [00:04:43] Yeah. And so when, when you started the first agency, what were some of the challenges that you experienced? Uh, and how did you overcome them? Frank: [00:04:57] Dude, so the first one… I think this is number four for me. We've got it right now, finally. But I've been attempting this since 2010, all right? So we're 12 years into your boy, Frankie, trying to make, trying to work 30 times harder for way less money, basically. When you, I know, but I like it. I can't help it, you know, and I would rather do this and make less money than do the other stuff. I don't know why. But anyway, the first one was a partnership between my cousin, Trey Smith and I and Jordan "Wolf of Wall Street" Belfort. And we had a plan, Trey and I mainly had this plan, which was we would create lead gen pages for home services companies and then manage their Google PPC accounts. We would charge a flat fee and then like, you know, let's say it was 600 bucks a month or something. And we'd spend 400 bucks on traffic and we'd keep the $200 bucks. It, uh, we did roughly 15 seconds of research, you know, and were convinced that we were geniuses. And Jordan's job was to, uh, hire and train salespeople. Cause neither Trey nor I are qualified to do that at all. So, um, that failed spectacularly, you know? So we, uh, by we, I mean, I leased a bank building in, uh, on Prospect Street all the way in California that… You know, we hired, I wanna say 40 people off of Craigslist. You know, and Jordan was training them up and then he had to go on tour to sell his stuff. And then like, nothing really happened. I got to, I got to have a lease on a bank building for a couple of years. So that was fun. Jason: [00:06:41] So why did that fail though? Like what, looking back, what could you have done to make that work? Frank: [00:06:48] Um, I could have, uh, used ads to get them, you know. So for whatever dumb reason, uh, I oftentimes fail to heed my own advice, which is all right if you want to grow the business, take the thing that's working real good and do a whole lot more of that. And then find a way to systemize and automate and scale from there. So we had this method of getting customers, which was internet ads. But when we partnered with Jordan, we were like, nope, we're not going to do that, we're going to do something we have no idea how to do, which is to call them out of the blue and then, uh, try to sell them something, you know, and so that was dumb. Uh, I mean, I'm sure people make it work, but we didn't know what the heck we were doing. And of course that model, I think would probably have ultimately doomed us because there wasn't enough margin in it. Jason: [00:07:42] Yeah. So what was version two? Frank: [00:07:46] Uh, let's see. Version two was current branding. It, that was so close to working. That's where, uh, we would do video campaigns for people. So we'd script their videos. They would shoot the footage. We would have it edited. We would run them. Excuse me, I'm losing my voice already. That's what happens in the wake up at two. Um, we would run their Facebook media for them and everything. And that actually was going pretty good. Um, I did what, uh, what I think a lot of people who are creative types do is I immediately outsource the operation. And I outsourced it to someone who didn't understand advertising. Really good understanding of operations, but didn't understand advertising. And all of this is on me because I never sat down and said, here's how the business works and here's how all the moving pieces work. So we ended up over-hiring tremendously and didn't make any money, you know, but that was, that was pretty close. Jason: [00:08:46] Okay. And then what about option three or version three? 3.0. Frank: [00:08:50] So version 3 was, uh, we tried, um, in-house again, uh, current branding once again. But instead of doing all that production for people, we were like, you know what, man? We're just gonna run their media for them at a pretty decent price. I just arbitrarily pulled 2,800 bucks off my butt. You know, like seems like an easy yes. And, um, that was going great. And then I decided it would be a good idea to partner with Grant Cardone and, uh, form Cardone Kern. I did that because I made a lot of assumptions that I'd never discussed with Grant. Uh, so again, I, I want to take full responsibility for this. I'm not here to say Grant is a bad guy or anything. So I partnered with him thinking that they would have the infrastructure that we needed to grow the agency. Cause you know, you go down to his operation, it's pretty impressive. They got meetings and stuff and… you know, meetings and stuff and people wear suits and they, they really look like they know what they're doing. And they do, but not for an ad agency. So when we partnered together, oh, and I also thought his audience was primarily business owners like brick and mortar people. So my vision for that, and this was incidentally, a conclusion that I drew after going to one event and talking to one attendee who was a roofer. And I was like, this would be the easiest client to win forever. This must be what all of his customer base is like. We should partner up, you know, and so zero foresight on, uh, on my part. So we, it, it blew up. Um, well it blew up in a good way. We got to walk clients really fast. We grew it to damn it, it was $895 a month, just under $900, a grand. And then, uh, we started hemorrhaging because the operations were bad. We, uh, by we, I mean, I, uh, had to hire a team. And then I had one dude to help me manage them. And he was good, but he was inexperienced too, in terms of trying to manage a team that big. So we just did a bad job, ultimately. Mainly is a result of operations, like missing calls, you know, like dumb things that operations people know how to do. Jason: [00:11:04] So what were some of the… I don't want to put words in your mouth about some of the assumptions, like thinking about, you know, if you were going to partner… Because a lot of people listening on the show, they, they reach a, a plateau or they're, they're kind of an inner plateau and they go, I need a partner because I can't, I don't, I feel like I've reached my max and I need to work with someone. And then they were like, well, let's just join together. So, you know, so many people are doing this and then it blows up in their face. So what would, what would have been some of those questions or assumptions to check with your partner and go, and then be like, oh, well let's kind of try this out or no, this is probably not going to work out that you could have avoided. Frank: [00:11:48] Yeah, I probably should have said, okay, I'm operating under the assumption that you're going to provide this team. Is that a true assumption? And he would have said no, because he doesn't lie. You know, he's not a bad person. Just, I've never had the damn sense to ask him. And Grant so busy he's like, all right, cool. Don't mess it up. Sounds like a good idea. Let's go. You know, so it was, we didn't really talk it out. So that probably would have been the first question was, you know, here's my assumption is this accurate? And, um, that would, that really would have been it. I think we could have overcome everything else. You know, he would've said, no, dude, I don't have that. And I'm not going to give you that you got to go build your own. I would have said, oh, I could do that on my own; I don't need us to partner together for this. We would rather keep all of the money and… You know, if I'm going to have all the headaches anyway, I might as well keep all the money. Jason: [00:12:38] Yeah. And so what, what are we looking like at version four now of, you know, post, you know, kind of making that partnership go away? I think this is the version you're on right now. Is that right? Frank: [00:12:53] Yes. Yeah. So we're looking great. What I learned is number one, don't try to grow too fast. So our target is five clients a week, you know, where it used to be as many as you can get, let's just hire more people, right? Nope, five a week. That's it, you know. So that was lesson number one. And that enables you to not be reactive and building out your operations. And lesson number, whatever number we're on is most of this stuff, I mean, I don't know about you dude, but ads are easy, you know? It's not, I mean, don't, don't tell clients it's for God's sake, but it's not really that hard. But the operations behind it, especially when you do it, we do, which is we're full service. So we'll, you know, the first thing we typically do is go fix their email. Cause that makes everything work better and they get immediate sales and then they're happy, you know? So that requires so many tiny little things to go right. That, um, that's just been a tremendous. Um, a lesson it has been that big of a learning curve, really. It's just more. Okay. Let's just keep drilling into this process, you know? And make sure there's checklists and yada yada, yada, yada. So it's been good. And then inner team communication is still we're good at it, but we could really be better at that. Um, but with clients we're good. But between ourselves, you know, we're doing… Jason: [00:14:28] When you're an agency partner with Wix, you unlock an entire digital ecosystem for creating, managing, and growing your agency. Get the full coding and design freedom to create anything your clients need, along with the tools to manage and collaborate with your team seamlessly from anywhere. And when it comes to growing your agency, you can get matched with new leads every day and earn revenue share for every website you guys create. They're backed by the Wix industry, leading security and site performance. You'll also have a dedicated account manager on standby 24/7. So you can reach your goals and start setting new ones. See for yourself, head over to wix.com/partners. And re-imagine what your agency can accomplish. Yeah. When I, when I look at kind of the stages of agency owners that go through, they go through, there's like six. And I look at kind of the first stage is like, figuring out, like, how do I get the clients? And then the next is like, how do we get the right clients? The next is like, like, how do I replace myself from not being the salesperson or being the account manager for the clients? And then it's like, how do I build the team? And it's just like all these little stages you have to go through or systems that you need to actually set up in order to kind of, you know, get you to a point where you can pick and choose and do the things that you love doing. Like, cause I was telling you years ago it was like most agency owners are accidental. They don't want to get into it. They just, they knew how to do something really cool in marketing. And someone's like, hey, do you do this for me? And they're like, okay, you're going to give me money to do this? Like, all right, let me go do more of that and, uh, you just kind of fall into it. And then, like you're saying you're being reactionary. Um, one thing I, I have a question and probably a lot of people have a question on is, let's say you have a partner now. You got in, we didn't go over the assumptions that we figured out. Um, how can they actually go to their partner… Like how can we make a pleasant split up? Uh, you know, in order for us to go our own ways, because a lot of people, even including me, I had a partner and I looked at it like, if you don't know the bad partner, you're the bad partner. Um, that's kinda how I looked at it. And that's one of the reasons why we sold, um, you know, it was a good offer, but still I probably would have been still doing it. Um, I'm lucky that I had did have a partner that we disagree. But like what, what, what would you suggest to these people listening? Like how can you do a, a good breakup? Frank: [00:17:17] I have no idea. Um, I just ended up giving everything to the partner. I'm like, okay. Like, well, our very first one, you know, it was clear that it wasn't working and everything was in my name. So I was able to be like, all right, guys, this isn't working. Um, I'll keep paying the lease. It's in my name. See y'all later. And nobody, you know, no one cared, uh, because they're like, oh, thank God we have to mess with this anymore. This was way harder than we thought. With Grant, I just gave him the agency. I was like, we were still doing, um, I can't remember, maybe half a million a month or something in billings? At the time, I was like, you can have it. And I never talked to him, actually. I talked to other people in the organization. I voiced some things that I needed and I wasn't able to get them. And I was like, well, this isn't really gonna work for me. Um, y'all can just have this, if you want. We can just be cool. And they're like, alright. Jason: [00:18:18] So how do you get to a point where… I love that, because a lot of people would spend years and years fighting back and forth. No, I did this, my name is on blah, blah, blah, all this kind of stuff. And like tons of resentment versus you're like, fucking take it. Like, let me restart. Like, how do you do that? How do you, how do you get rid of those emotions that a lot of us would struggle with? Frank: [00:18:46] Well, if things are your damn fault, you have to realize they're your fault. And so like if it was a different scenario and Grant had misled me. And said, yeah, we got this, dude. Here's everything I'm going to do to the letter and then just didn't do it. And then it was like F you Frank. Then I would be mad, you know, we'd have a really serious problem. Um, but he didn't, I just didn't ask. So I had to, it was my damn fault, you know. It wasn't his. So what am I going to do? But you know, pitch a fit? If some dude, you know… he's got other stuff going on. He's gotta roll on out. But also in our business, it's like, it's easy to just to start another one. There's this, this is what I love about the advertising business. It's, it's never going away. You know, it doesn't matter what the economy does. It's like we ain't going anywhere. It could be world war three, you know. I've always made this joke and it's old by now that the world war three could happen and there'd be like seven people left. One of them selling cockroaches or something. And he's going to go to the guy with a bigger cave wall and be like, hey, I'll give you five cockroaches. If I can advertise my cockroach sales on your wall there, you know, like in, it'll take off from there. It's just never going anywhere. So I have no scarcity around it. Jason: [00:20:10] Well, you know, that's how I look at agencies is, you know, when we had the big gold rush, right? And the people that got the richest were the ones selling the stuff to make gold. That's kind of how I look at agencies. Um, especially as when COVID hit and everything started shutting down, I was like, you know, hey agencies are going to get a lot of business because people can't do what they used to do anymore. And, uh, and I, I guessed right on that. But I love how you, you say take ownership in your own mistake. It's like, it was my fault. And I, I think too many times, including myself, probably, I mean, that's a hard thing to do. Admitting, going, hey, I could have avoided this. This is my mistake. Let's just move on. And hit the reset button. And it's kind of like monopoly, let's play another game, here we go. It's like, I screwed up that one. Frank: [00:21:05] Yeah. I'm glad I screwed up that one. Cause this one's great. And I get to keep all of the money. So like, okay. You know, this actually worked out pretty good. Otherwise, it'd be giving most of the money to Grant. Nice enough guy. But, um, I'd prefer that I keep it. Jason: [00:21:22] I think he's got enough money too. Frank: [00:21:25] Oh, yeah. I think he, I hope they're doing well. Jason: [00:21:28] Yeah. Well, awesome. Well, Frank, this has been amazing, man. Is there anything I didn't ask you that you think would benefit the audience? Frank: [00:21:37] No. I want to ask you something. Because you said something that really hit me at the beginning. You were like, I've never even heard of direct response until after I'd sold the agency. And I think me and you were joking around about this by email. I was like, if I didn't have this damned, uh, I guess like moral compass and inability to sell something that is not measurable. I would be a zillionaire, you know, but I just can't do it. And I don't even know how to attempt to do it. Because I know there was some value to it and like having cool stuff and well-branded things. I don't know how to make those things, but that's why God made other people, you know. Um, how do you sell that kind of stuff? Not with a clear conscience. I, I don't think there's anything wrong with doing it as long as a client knows the game going in, you know.  But how…? Jason: [00:22:25] Well, we… Yeah, our agency, we developed, um, user experiences, you know, from websites and then we built applications. So if you think of sites like Legal Zoom, we built that, uh, you think of Hitachi Power Tools or Lotus Cars, their website, like none of those websites back then had really caught actions other than find my dealer, you know, Legal Zoom did about getting in, but we never really ran ads. Um, so we always said, you have to have this amazing, like when someone comes to your website, you have to have this amazing experience and tell the right story in order for them to, um, you know, build an trust you. You know, we never really, we, we, we didn't get their people's email addresses; even though looking back at the agency, we were one of the first to build e-commerce stores. We were one of the first to build an email marketing system. So our clients could broadcast to their clients. Like, and we were one of the first to build a CMS system, but we did what typical agency owners did was we kept working on our clients that kept paying the bills and we couldn't keep up. And then we, uh, started using other partners, like MailChimp. Like, we started all that before MailChimp. So, you know, everyone, uh, misses the boat. Uh, I think we missed the boat, but at the end of the day, I'm right where I'm supposed to be. I'm loving life and doing everything, so… Frank: [00:23:54] You get to have the pensive view off the balcony in your opening for the Podcast, man. The only way is like, we will make you more than you pay us or we'll refund the difference plus 20%. I mean, the company is called Grow Ads for God's sake, but that's like hard work. I mean, it's actually not because you just choose the right clients, but you know what I mean? It seems to me, hey, the grass is always greener, but I'm like, man, these dudes that are getting paid half a million bucks to make a commercial. Those are the ones that are the smartest people in the room. Jason: [00:24:24] Yeah. Well, I mean, it's, you got to do what you enjoy doing, right? Like you said, the grass is greener on the side that you water. So, you know, whatever side you want to water, like it's going to be, you know, you're going to enjoy it. I always just hate when people do something that they don't want to do in the agency just to make money. I think that's a big, big mistake. I'm like the money will come. Like all the, you know, the mastermind members and the clients I've worked with over the years that have had, you know, the best lives, it's the ones that they, they didn't care about the money. They just cared about doing the right thing and doing what they wanted to do. And that made all the difference. So… Frank: [00:25:03] Well, you've made a whole boatload of it. And I've made, spent a whole boatload of it. At the end of the day. That's really it, you know, am I going to have a good time today? Jason: [00:25:15] Well, I look at it as like you make money to save time in other things. So you have time to, um, you know, one of the things when, when I ask our mastermind members… I probably shouldn't tell people listening because now you know my trick question, but I ask them the first question usually is what do you do for fun? If they say I work all the time, I don't let them in. Frank: [00:25:37] Oh, dude, you wouldn't let me in then cause I really do all the time. But I love it so much, man. But because it's because I'm finally doing. Jason: [00:25:44] Yeah, but you surf and you do all… or do you still surf or no? Frank: [00:25:49] Seriously. Like, I'm in this little room right now and it's my pool house.And so I get up kind of pool house, go back. Um, I've gotten that routine, you know, during COVID and everything. But really, I really like it, you know, like to me, it's so cool. But I'm an addict. Like I'm a hard core ad person specifically with direct response. So I get to hit refresh a whole lot of other people's stats all the time. I get the dopamine hit constantly. You're like, ooh, hit, refresh on this to see how this is going. Okay. Is it refreshing over there? Hot damn. Moving on. What else can we do? You know? So to me it's not work, really. Jason: [00:26:27] Oh, yeah. Well, I mean, that's, that's the whole thing. But I still, I do want you to take some time off. Gotta have some time. So... Frank: [00:26:37] Well, you know, weekends and stuff. I'll sit around and walk over to the other house, the main house. Hang out there. Jason: [00:26:44] Well, awesome. Well, what's the website people go in and check out? Is it growads.com or…? Frank: [00:26:49] It's .org. I didn't have the money for the.com. Actually, I never even looked to see how much the.com costs cause .org seemed cooler to me. Jason: [00:26:58] Well, I think .org usually ranks higher anyway .org ranks higher in Google anyway. Frank: [00:27:04] Oh, I don't even know about that stuff. Jason: [00:27:06] Claim that. Frank: [00:27:10] I have no idea about SEO because I have ads. You know, it's like, you want to get known? Run ads. Yeah, or go to frankkern.com. Both of those sites will cure your insomnia pretty well. I think if you have it. Jason: [00:27:26] Whatever. Everyone goes, check out both those sites. And thanks so much, Frank for coming on the show. And if you guys want to be surrounded by amazing agency owners where, you know, we have a lot of fun, we're going over constantly what's working, what's not working. Sharing and being able to see what you're not able to see because we're too damn freaking close to it. I want you guys to go to digitalagencyelite.com. This is our inclusive mastermind. And until next time have a Swenk day.

Here are all the segments:00:00 – 00:43 – Chief Concerns Opener00:43 – 02:50 – BetOnline.AG and Balance7.co advertisements 02:50 – 06:29 – The crew has some messages for the players that were cut during cutdown days.06:29 – 21:34 – Chief Concern 1: The crew discusses their biggest takeaways from the Chiefs third Preseason game against the Vikings. 21:34 – 28:11 – Chief Concern 2: The crew reacts to the 53-man roster.28:11- 29:11 – Playactionpools.com advertisement29:11 – 36:22 – Chief Concern 3: The crew discusses the stories behind Daurice Fountain and Jody Fortson on how they never gave up their dream of playing in the NFL.36:22 - 45:28 – Chief Concern 4: How satisfied are you with the current Wide Receiver room after all of the roster cuts? 45:28 – 45:54 – Tease to next week with our episode with a special former Chiefs player. Goodbye!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Here are all the segments:00:00 – 00:43 – Chief Concerns Opener00:43 – 01:16 – BetOnline.AG advertisement 01:16 – 02:20 – Balance7.com advertisement02:20 – 13:23 – The crew discusses Lional Dalton's good news about his successful kidney transplant!13:23 – 31:43 – Chief Concern 1: The crew discusses their biggest takeaways from the Chiefs second Preseason game against the Cardinals. What is going to happen at the #2 Wide Receiver position? Is Mecole the guy?31:43 – 37:35 – Chief Concern 2: Were you all surprised by the release of Taco Charlton?37:35 – 45:18 – Chief Concern 3: Who are some guys who may be on the bubble this week that we may be surprised about?45:18 - 49:56 – Chief Concern 4: Preseason Game #3 versus the Minnesota Vikings – What are we looking to see? 49:56 – 51:23 – Tease to next week with our episode with the guys from Chiefs Focus. Goodbye!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Vince Ferrara visited with the NFL analyst about a free COVID-19 surveillance testing program available for schools along with his opinions on Trey Smith, Marquez Callaway, Titans, Cowboys, Bengals and more.

Here are all the segments:00:00 – 00:43 – Chief Concerns Opener00:43 – 01:16 – BetOnline.AG advertisement 01:16 – 02:20 – Balance7.com advertisement02:20 – 12:18 – The crew discusses what it is like to see teammates get cut during Training Camp, Tim Tebow getting cut, and Tyrann Mathieu's contract situation12:18 – 17:14 – Chief Concern 1: The crew discusses their biggest takeaways from the Chiefs first Preseason game against the 49ers. 17:14 – 28:13 – Chief Concern 2: The guys discuss: A: What are your thoughts on bringing back these 3 TE sets, which I haven't seen in a Chiefs game since Tony, JD, and Kris Wilson. B: what are the chances, we go into the season with 4 TEs?28:13 – 46:02 – Chief Concern 3: The crew weighs in on the NFL's decision to enforce their Taunting Rules.46:02 - 55:07 – Chief Concern 4: Preseason Game #2 at the Arizona Cardinals – What are we looking to see? 55:07 – 55:38 – Goodbye!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Kling was stuck in hell last night. Plus, Salvy continues to be the man, someone is horsing around, Trey Smith has a light bulb moment, we Shout It Out, Chiefs fans need to plan accordingly, how can you not love Pop, and Bob made a song for Brett Veach.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

8-16-21 - More reaction from the Chiefs win over the 49ers, and press conferences from St. Joe (Andy Reid, Trey Smith, Ben Nieman, Blake Bell). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Hear from Kansas City Chiefs head coach Andy Reid (:29), rookie guard Trey Smith (4:08), linebacker Ben Niemann (7:06), and tight end Blake Bell (12:41). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

— Facing your fears is important for your mental health. Fear inoculation is an essential process used by therapists to help people overcome anxiety by willfully exposing them to their fears over time until they eventually conquer them. ‘Willfully' is the key word. Using your will to effectively overcome the unthinkable. Conquering your fears is about finding comfort in chaos and the unknown as well as developing the ability to perform in high intensity environments. Fear will always be there but it's what we choose to do that makes all the difference. Managing fear will lead you to live tenaciously, become more competent and most importantly, it will set you free. What are you afraid of? What is holding you back from living the life you want? Valeria Teles interviews Matthew Gagne — the Founder Of Flock Goods, Guinness World Record Holder, Former Professional Skydiver, And Speaker Matthew Gagne, in his former career as a professional skydiver, he trained Navy Seals and served as flight instructor for Al Gore, Will Smith, Jaden Smith, Trey Smith, Kirby Chambliss, and Tyrese. When a near-fatal car accident broke his neck in 10 places, he threw himself into rehabilitation. Flock Goods was born during this journey through pain. Ever since, he has dedicated himself to helping others overcome adversity and lead active lifestyles. He currently lives with his beloved Dutch Shepherd dog on a Maine riverbank in a tiny house RV that he built himself. To learn more about Matthew Gagne and his work, please visit: https://www.flockgoods.com/     — This podcast is a quest for well-being, a quest for a meaningful life through the exploration of fundamental truths, enlightening ideas, insights on physical, mental, and spiritual health. The inspiration is Love. The aspiration is to awaken new ways of thinking that can lead us to a new way of being, being well.   

A day after the Chiefs' thrilling 19-16 comeback win over the 49ers in the first preseason game of the year, OL Masterminds' creator Duke Manyweather joins BJ and Nick to talk about what he's seen from the Chiefs' offensive line, and in particular, the two rookies he's trained - center Creed Humphrey and right guard Trey Smith. Duke is to go-to authority on offensive line play, and he joined the guys for nearly an hour to talk about offensive line, and much more. -- Want quality, daily Chiefs' content straight to you every morning? Want to look smarter to your friends? Subscribe to our daily Chiefs' newsletters via Substack (kcsn.substack.com). $40/year through September 1, then it moves to $50 per year. Content. Every. Day. Also, as mentioned on the show - take a look at the "Trench Warfare" newsletter by Brandon Thorn as well - plenty of fantastic information for those wanting to learn: https://trenchwarfare.substack.com/people/4688636-brandon-thorn --- Check out "The Big Boys Club" on Fox Sports - https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSoN6Th-EepOoABkRPtG-R5oeuRifB1Zg https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSoN6Th-EepOoABkRPtG-R5oeuRifB1Zg

Chiefs Trey Smith Evolution to KC - With Eric Cain LO Vols - BONUS Ep!

Cris talks about the upcoming preseason game against 49ers. Concerns about Orlando Brown and Lucas Niang?(2:48) Trey Smith a steal? (14:48) And offensive and defensive players to watch for in the game against the 49ers (14:11)

8-13-21 The Zone talks to KSHB 41 News Sports Director Mick Shaffer on Field of Dreams, Bobby Witt Jr and moving him around, and Trey Smith love over the league, plus we end the week with Cory's Cuts and more. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The Locked On Vols podcast is your daily show covering Tennessee Volunteers football and basketball with Eric Cain. Friday's show is loaded with scrimmage notes. What have I been hearing about scrimmage #1 of fall camp? I'll tell you. Plus, what did Josh Heupel have to say about the session? You'll hear all that in segments one and two. In segment three, we catch up with Ryan Tracy of Locked on Chiefs for a crossover segment on Trey Smith. All that and more on a Friday show! Be sure to participate in #TwitterTuesday by tweeting @LockedonVols or @_Cainer all your questions. Tuesday's show will answer them! DMs are open. Follow the show on those Twitter accounts and also on host Eric Cain's Facebook page: CainerOnAir. And every Friday is 5 Star Friday here on Locked on Vols! Head over to Apple Podcasts and leave a positive review + a 5 star rating and we'll shout you out each and every Friday! Support Us By Supporting Our Sponsors! Built Bar Built Bar is a protein bar that tastes like a candy bar. Go to builtbar.com and use promo code “LOCKED15,” and you'll get 15% off your next order. BetOnline AG There is only 1 place that has you covered and 1 place we trust. Betonline.ag! Sign up today for a free account at betonline.ag and use that promocode: LOCKEDON for your 50% welcome bonus. Rock Auto Amazing selection. Reliably low prices. All the parts your car will ever need. Visit RockAuto.com and tell them Locked On sent you. StatHero StatHero, the FIRST Ever Daily Fantasy Sportsbook that gives the PLAYER the ADVANTAGE. Go to Stathero.com/LockedOn for 300% back on your first play. ___________________________________________________________________________________________________ A special shoutout to James Manning (@GooseManning5) for his assistance in graphic design. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jason is back and gets CLOWNED for the goggles he has to temporarily wear post-LASIK surgery. Ramon explains the typical run-up before a first pre-season game. As Trey Smith impresses at Chiefs training camp, the guys discuss the recent history of UT football prospects going to the NFL.

The sophomore offensive lineman discussed his development, the OL unit, having fun, Trey Smith and much more after practice #5.

The sophomore offensive lineman discussed his development, the OL unit, having fun, Trey Smith and much more after practice #5.

Analyst Nick Jacobs breaks down the first week of padded practice from Kansas City Chiefs camp with host Tod Palmer on the latest "4th & 1" podcast from KSHB 41. Jacobs does a deep dive into the offensive and defensive lines and the pair also discusses other position groups of interest ahead of the preseason opener on Saturday, Aug. 14, at the San Francisco 49ers. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Chiefs Make Moves for Covid, Retirement and Signing, Tight End Competition, Trey Smith's Progress

Hear from Kansas City Chiefs head coach Andy Reid (:33), rookie guard Trey Smith (4:31), rookie linebacker Nick Bolton (9:22), and veteran offensive lineman Andrew Wylie (13:13). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Here are all the segments:00:00 – 0:43 – Chief Concerns Opener00:43 – 01:14 – BetOnline.AG advertisement 01:14 – 08:41 – The crew discusses their love for the Summer Olympics and Jason talks about displeasures with USA Men's Basketball Team08:41 – 22:52 – Chief Concern 1: The crew discusses the takeaways from Training Camp. They talk about the receiver battle, how Lucas Niang looks, Chris Jones' early domination at DE, and Noah Gray being the best supplement for Travis Kelce.22:52 – 30:36 – Chief Concern 2: Trey Smith, the 6th rounder from the University of Tennessee has been starting at the RG spot since day 1 of Training Camp and has been dominant so far. Is it too early to call Trey Smith the biggest steal of the NFL Draft?30:36 - 39:14 – Chief Concern 3: So far there haven't been any significant injuries (thankfully), but Tyreek Hill has been dealing with knee tendinitis, which can be a lingering injury. Is Tyreek Hill's knee tendinitis a big concern? 39:14 – 54:14 – Chief Concern 4: Jason gives us a little insight into an NFL training camp. 54:14 – 55:34 – Goodbye!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

See the full episode here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Jr5TwH95d4 Kansas City Chiefs Breakdown - Camp Week 1 with Matt Derrick. Patrick Mahomes O-line, Trey Smith, Noah Gray, Jerrick Mckinnon. Defenses drive with Chris Jones, Willie Gay, Nick Bolton, Juan Thornhill. Ramp up in week 2! Get

In this edition of "Show and BK," BK hates the idea of a Justin Houston reunion, but Show isn't quite as skeptical. Show can't believe the Chiefs are really running it back with Mike Remmers at right tackle, but BK thinks there's a method to the madness. Both Show and BK love the Chiefs running with Trey Smith at right guard. Is Noah Gray White Stallion or Pony? Juan Thornhill: Certified or Imposter? And we wrap up with a few quick-hitters on the camp battles at offensive line and cornerback. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In this edition of The Arrowhead Drive, Pete Sweeney has all your updates from days one and two of Chiefs training camp. owner Clark Hunt gives his yearly speech, head coach Andy Reid talks right guard Trey Smith, safety Tyrann Mathieu isn't thinking about his contract, defensive lineman Chris Jones has adjusted his weight, plus a Clyde Edwards-Helaire over/under and more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

See the full episode here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdCdM2__pEY Kansas City Chiefs Rookie OL Creed Humphrey & Trey Smith with Nate Tice Get

Chiefs Training Camp Starts Fast for Trey Smith, Mecole Hardman + Willie Gay Jr. Matt Derrick, ChiefsDigest.com' Editor updates us.

Former Kansas City Chiefs offensive lineman Joe Valerio and sports writer Jeff Fedotin discuss Jeff's one-on-one interview with Patrick Mahomes and notes from Chiefs training camp.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Chiefs RB Clyde Edwards-Helaire joins the show and talks about his affinity for cars, how he sees his role in the passing game growing this season, and the edge that guys like Orlando Brown and Trey Smith bring to the offensive line. Also discussed: - Tyrann Mathieu press conference - Joe Thuney press conference See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In this edition of The Arrowhead Drive, Pete Sweeney prepares you for veteran report day at Kansas City Chiefs training camp. Andy Reid greeted the media and rounded up the injuries, plus quotes to know from Patrick Mahomes, Juan Thornhill and rookies Trey Smith, Noah Gray and Cornell Powell Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

 “4th & 1” podcast analyst Nick Jacobs and host Tod Palmer breakdown the first weekend of Chiefs training camp. Nick gives his initial impressions of the first practice and what to look ahead for over the next week.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In the final hour of our Training Camp Special we hear from Chiefs' Rookies Cornell Powell, Trey Smith and Noah Gray, preview training camp and the season ahead, and more. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Hear from: Kansas City Chiefs rookie tight end Noah Gray (:41), rookie wide receiver Cornell Powell (5:17), and rookie guard Trey Smith (10:10). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“4th & 1” podcast analyst Nick Jacobs and host Tod Palmer discuss the Frank Clark situation. And they decide who are the most over-hyped and under-hyped Chiefs headed into training camp.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Jeremy and Matt are back to take a look at the Wyoming Cowboys upcoming season which has the potential to be really special. There are opt outs that are returning on defense that means all 11 starters are back for that unit which will contend for the best in the Mountain West. The Cowboys also decided on its quarterback with Sean Chambers who is back after an injury and missing the majority of the shortened 2020 season. The offense should be more open in the passing game and also one of the best running back units in the conference with Xazavian Valladay and Trey Smith toting the ball. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Kent, Matt, and Craig look at the top storylines coming out of Chiefs Mandatory Minicamp. Rookies starting along the offensive line, Tyrann Mathieu's contract, Chris Jones at defensive end, and MORE! kcsn.substack.com

The Chiefs’ rookies got their first taste of the NFL during a weekend mini-camp. There weren’t as many first-year players as in previous offseasons, and there wasn’t contact. But coach Andy Reid said he was happy with the event, and we hear from him and the Chiefs’ first draft pick, second-rounder Nick Bolton from Mizzou, in this episode of The Star’s daily SportsBeat KC podcast. You’ll also hear from Star beat writers Herbie Teope and Sam McDowell, who attended the mini-camp and heard what the rookies had to say. The Chiefs have several more organized team activities (OTA) events before their summer break hits, but this was an important one in terms of getting the Chiefs’ first-year players acclimated to the NFL. Story links: Chiefs conclude rookie mini-camp, leaving Andy Reid happy. Here’s why Chiefs rookie Trey Smith isn’t happy about the NFL Draft. But he’s moved on Chiefs acquire cornerback Mike Hughes in trade with Minnesota Vikings Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hear from Kansas City Chiefs rookie tight end Noah Gray (0:30), wide receiver Cornell Powell (4:37) and offensive lineman Trey Smith (9:37) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Locked On Vols podcast is your daily show covering Tennessee Volunteers football and basketball with Eric Cain. Thursday's show discusses who the face of the Tennessee football is right now. With Jauan Jennings, Trey Smith and others gone, it's not an easy questions to answer with all the roster movement happening this offseason. Plus, Louis Fernandez of WBIR Sports (TEGNA) checks in to the conversation in segment two. All that and more on a Thursday show. Be sure to participate in #TwitterTuesday by tweeting @LockedonVols or @_Cainer all your questions. Tuesday's show will answer them! DMs are open. Follow the show on those Twitter accounts and also on host Eric Cain's Facebook page: CainerOnAir. And every Friday is 5 Star Friday here on Locked on Vols! Head over to Apple Podcasts and leave a positive review + a 5 star rating and we'll shout you out each and every Friday! Support Us By Supporting Our Sponsors! Built Bar Built Bar is a protein bar that tastes like a candy bar. Go to builtbar.com and use promo code “LOCKED15,” and you’ll get 15% off your next order. BetOnline AG There is only 1 place that has you covered and 1 place we trust. Betonline.ag! Sign up today for a free account at betonline.ag and use that promocode: LOCKEDON for your 50% welcome bonus. Rock Auto Amazing selection. Reliably low prices. All the parts your car will ever need. Visit RockAuto.com and tell them Locked On sent you. ___________________________________________________________________________________________________ A special shoutout to James Manning (@GooseManning5) for his assistance in graphic design. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Locked On Vols podcast is your daily show covering Tennessee Volunteers football and basketball with Eric Cain. Monday's show looks back at this weekend's NFL Draft. Josh Palmer was drafted in the third round to the Chargers while Trey Smith slid all the way down to the sixth round. Why is that? We discuss and hear from VFL Ramon Foster. Plus, an idiotic tweet surfaced over the weekend regarding Trey Smith and his recruitment coming out of high school. That + a few more Tennessee football notes. All that on a Monday show. Be sure to participate in #TwitterTuesday by tweeting @LockedonVols or @_Cainer all your questions. Tuesday's show will answer them! DMs are open. Follow the show on those Twitter accounts and also on host Eric Cain's Facebook page: CainerOnAir. And every Friday is 5 Star Friday here on Locked on Vols! Head over to Apple Podcasts and leave a positive review + a 5 star rating and we'll shout you out each and every Friday! Support Us By Supporting Our Sponsors! Built Bar Built Bar is a protein bar that tastes like a candy bar. Go to builtbar.com and use promo code “LOCKED15,” and you’ll get 15% off your next order. BetOnline AG There is only 1 place that has you covered and 1 place we trust. Betonline.ag! Sign up today for a free account at betonline.ag and use that promocode: LOCKEDON for your 50% welcome bonus. Rock Auto Amazing selection. Reliably low prices. All the parts your car will ever need. Visit RockAuto.com and tell them Locked On sent you. ___________________________________________________________________________________________________ A special shoutout to James Manning (@GooseManning5) for his assistance in graphic design. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chiefs pickin Trey Smith was the STEAL of the DRAFT! How we grade them all UDFA signings Recap The Draft with 2021 RAC Draft Guide and Athletic Matrix! Get them at www.RogueAPC.com