Physician NonClinical Careers

If you're a physician with at least 5 years of experience looking for a flexible, non-clinical, part-time medical-legal consulting role… ...Dr. Armin Feldman's Medical Legal Coaching program will guarantee to add $100K in additional income within 12 months without doing any expert witness work. Any doctor in any specialty can do this work. And if you don't reach that number, he'll work with you for free until you do, guaranteed. How can he make such a bold claim? It's simple, he gets results…  Dr. David exceeded his clinical income without sacrificing time in his full-time position. Dr. Anke retired from her practice while generating the same monthly consulting income.  And Dr. Elliott added meaningful consulting work without lowering his clinical income or job satisfaction. So, if you're a physician with 5+ years of experience and you want to find out exactly how to add $100K in additional consulting income in just 12 months, go to arminfeldman.com.                                                          =============== Learn the business and management skills you need by enrolling in the University of Tennessee Physician Executive MBA program at nonclinicalphysicians.com/physicianmba. Get the FREE GUIDE to 10 Nonclinical Careers at nonclinicalphysicians.com/freeguide. Get a list of 70 nontraditional jobs at nonclinicalphysicians.com/70jobs.                                                                                                 =============== In this continuation of the conversation with Dr. Josh Umbehr, the focus shifts to how his 15 years in membership-based care have led to innovations beyond the traditional Direct Primary Care model. He shares how the success of his practice inspired the creation of Atlas MD's electronic medical record system, designed specifically for direct care practices. Unlike traditional systems overloaded with insurance-driven features, this EMR streamlines clinical work by removing unnecessary administrative functions. He also introduces his latest venture, Not Health Insurance, a fixed indemnity plan designed to complement DPC by covering major medical costs like hospitalizations, cancer treatment, and emergency procedures. Unlike ACA plans, this model returns money directly to patients and takes advantage of significant uninsured discounts from hospitals that often go unnoticed. By removing insurance barriers from routine care while still providing support for serious medical needs, this approach creates a more efficient and accessible healthcare experience. It also addresses common concerns about physician access and system sustainability, offering a model that prioritizes both patient outcomes and professional satisfaction. You'll find links mentioned in the episode at  nonclinicalphysicians.com/thrive-with-direct-primary-care/

If you're a physician with at least 5 years of experience looking for a flexible, non-clinical, part-time medical-legal consulting role… ...Dr. Armin Feldman's Medical Legal Coaching program will guarantee to add $100K in additional income within 12 months without doing any expert witness work. Any doctor in any specialty can do this work. And if you don't reach that number, he'll work with you for free until you do, guaranteed. How can he make such a bold claim? It's simple, he gets results…  Dr. David exceeded his clinical income without sacrificing time in his full-time position. Dr. Anke retired from her practice while generating the same monthly consulting income.  And Dr. Elliott added meaningful consulting work without lowering his clinical income or job satisfaction. So, if you're a physician with 5+ years of experience and you want to find out exactly how to add $100K in additional consulting income in just 12 months, go to arminfeldman.com.                                                          =============== Learn the business and management skills you need by enrolling in the University of Tennessee Physician Executive MBA program at nonclinicalphysicians.com/physicianmba. Get the FREE GUIDE to 10 Nonclinical Careers at nonclinicalphysicians.com/freeguide. Get a list of 70 nontraditional jobs at nonclinicalphysicians.com/70jobs.                                                                                                 =============== Dr. Josh Umbehr shares his 15-year journey building one of the earliest and most influential Direct Primary Care (DPC) practices, launched in 2010 after seeing firsthand how insurance-based medicine complicates care. While working as a biller and coder during his pre-med years, he saw how much time and money was lost to bureaucracy. Inspired by his father's straightforward trash collection business—“pay once a month, pick up once a week”—he applied the same logic to healthcare: simple, transparent, and direct. His model strips away insurance entirely, offering wholesale medications, low-cost labs, and unlimited access via calls, texts, and in-person visits—all without billing headaches. By eliminating the administrative layers that bog down traditional practice, Dr. Umbehr created a system that puts the focus back where it belongs: on the patient. The result is a more sustainable way to practice medicine that helps prevent physician burnout by allowing doctors to spend time-solving problems, not just documenting them for insurance. His practice has since expanded with partners and new locations, and he's developed tools like custom EMRs and consulting services to help others make the shift. At its core, his philosophy is simple: basic healthcare should be affordable. It is so affordable, that it's “too cheap to insure” without compromising quality. You'll find links mentioned in the episode at  nonclinicalphysicians.com/switch-to-direct-primary-care/

If you're a physician with at least 5 years of experience looking for a flexible, non-clinical, part-time medical-legal consulting role… ...Dr. Armin Feldman's Medical Legal Coaching program will guarantee to add $100K in additional income within 12 months without doing any expert witness work. Any doctor in any specialty can do this work. And if you don't reach that number, he'll work with you for free until you do, guaranteed. How can he make such a bold claim? It's simple, he gets results…  Dr. David exceeded his clinical income without sacrificing time in his full-time position. Dr. Anke retired from her practice while generating the same monthly consulting income.  And Dr. Elliott added meaningful consulting work without lowering his clinical income or job satisfaction. So, if you're a physician with 5+ years of experience and you want to find out exactly how to add $100K in additional consulting income in just 12 months, go to arminfeldman.com.                                                          =============== Learn the business and management skills you need by enrolling in the University of Tennessee Physician Executive MBA program at nonclinicalphysicians.com/physicianmba. Get the FREE GUIDE to 10 Nonclinical Careers at nonclinicalphysicians.com/freeguide. Get a list of 70 nontraditional jobs at nonclinicalphysicians.com/70jobs.                                                                                                 =============== Jonathan Jaffin, MD, is a trauma surgeon who earned his medical degree from Johns Hopkins and completed his general surgery residency through the National Capital Consortium, followed by a fellowship in surgical critical care at MedStar Georgetown. He dedicated over 30 years to the U.S. Army, taking on key leadership roles including Deputy Commander and Acting Commander of the Army Medical Research and Materiel Command, as well as CEO of the Walter Reed Health Care System. After retiring from military service, he transitioned into consulting as a Specialist Executive at Deloitte, one of the world's leading advisory firms—a unique path for a physician. Dr. Jaffin discusses how the leadership experience he gained in the military helped him succeed in consulting, where he provided strategic guidance to healthcare systems such as the VA and the Department of Defense. He talks candidly about the realities of life in consulting—frequent travel, the value of clinical experience in building client trust, and the importance of clear communication. He also emphasizes that while an MBA can be helpful, it's not essential if a physician has already built a strong foundation in leadership and professional relationships. He also shares practical advice for physicians considering consulting careers, such as taking on leadership roles, developing a strong network, and building credibility in a specific area of expertise. For those thinking about leaving clinical practice, he offers a reassuring perspective: it's still possible to make a meaningful impact by improving healthcare systems and policies that affect thousands of patients—not just one at a time. You'll find links mentioned in the episode at  nonclinicalphysicians.com/first-class-consulting/

If you're a physician with at least 5 years of experience looking for a flexible, non-clinical, part-time medical-legal consulting role… ...Dr. Armin Feldman's Medical Legal Coaching program will guarantee to add $100K in additional income within 12 months without doing any expert witness work. Any doctor in any specialty can do this work. And if you don't reach that number, he'll work with you for free until you do, guaranteed. How can he make such a bold claim? It's simple, he gets results…  Dr. David exceeded his clinical income without sacrificing time in his full-time position. Dr. Anke retired from her practice while generating the same monthly consulting income.  And Dr. Elliott added meaningful consulting work without lowering his clinical income or job satisfaction. So, if you're a physician with 5+ years of experience and you want to find out exactly how to add $100K in additional consulting income in just 12 months, go to arminfeldman.com.                                                          =============== Learn the business and management skills you need by enrolling in the University of Tennessee Physician Executive MBA program at nonclinicalphysicians.com/physicianmba. Get the FREE GUIDE to 10 Nonclinical Careers at nonclinicalphysicians.com/freeguide. Get a list of 70 nontraditional jobs at nonclinicalphysicians.com/70jobs.                                                                                                 =============== Dr. Ati Hakimi, a Northwestern-trained family physician with additional geriatrics training from Rush University Medical Center and an executive healthcare MBA from UC Irvine, joins John to illuminate the transformative potential of Direct Primary Care (DPC) as a pathway back to fulfilling, independent medical practice. After experiencing burnout from corporate medicine's unattainable metrics and assembly-line patient loads, Dr. Hakimi discovered DPC—a membership-based model where patients pay a flat monthly fee (around $150) for unlimited access to their physician through calls, texts, and visits. John and Dr. Hakimi discuss how this approach eliminates insurance bureaucracy while delivering remarkable benefits: deeply discounted labs, imaging, and medications; unhurried appointments; and the freedom to practice medicine according to one's own values rather than corporate metrics. With only 150 patients (compared to thousands in traditional practice), Dr. Hakimi operates with minimal overhead, no staff, and complete autonomy—creating a practice that not only better serves her "members" (she doesn't call them patients because "they're not sick") but has restored her professional joy. Their candid conversation reveals how physicians at breaking points with corporate medicine might find salvation in this model without needing to abandon clinical practice or compromise their incomes. You'll find links mentioned in the episode at  nonclinicalphysicians.com/awesome-direct-primary-care/

Dr. Armin Feldman's Pretrial Prelitigation Medical Legal Consulting Coaching Program will teach you to build your own nonclinical consulting business as a valued consultant to attorneys without doing med mal cases or expert witness work. Armin will teach you everything from business concepts to the medicine involved when launching your new consulting business during one year of unlimited coaching. For more information, go to nonclinicalphysicians.com/mlconsulting/ Learn the business and management skills you need by enrolling in the University of Tennessee Physician Executive MBA program at nonclinicalphysicians.com/physicianmba. Get the FREE GUIDE to 10 Nonclinical Careers at nonclinicalphysicians.com/freeguide. Get a list of 70 nontraditional jobs at nonclinicalphysicians.com/70jobs.                                                                                                 =============== This classic episode features Dr. David Yeh, a Cornell-educated radiologist trained at NYU Medical School with fellowship training at UPenn, who transformed his financial expertise into a successful career as an Investment Advisor Representative after achieving financial independence at age 45—while maintaining the physician's desire to educate rather than simply manage money. After finding himself buried in credit card debt as an intern despite his elite education, Dr. Yeh shares his compelling journey through financial education and the eventual development of sophisticated investment techniques that required monitoring just once monthly. His approach focuses on risk mitigation rather than aggressive returns, using mathematical filters borrowed from his radiology background to identify market trends and protect investments from major downturns. John and Dr. Yeh dive into the differences between the three financial industry sectors (banking, brokerage, and insurance), clarify the often-confusing regulatory environment, and discuss practical advice for physicians considering career transitions. Dr. Yeh emphasizes viewing wealth through the lens of time—measuring how many years you could comfortably survive without additional income—and recommends specific financial runway requirements for various career pivot scenarios, from six months for job transitions to five years for building a new business. You'll find links mentioned in the episode at nonclinicalphysicians.com/secure-your-investment-portfolio/

Dr. Armin Feldman's Pretrial Prelitigation Medical Legal Consulting Coaching Program will teach you to build your own nonclinical consulting business as a valued consultant to attorneys without doing med mal cases or expert witness work. Armin will teach you everything from business concepts to the medicine involved when launching your new consulting business during one year of unlimited coaching. For more information, go to nonclinicalphysicians.com/mlconsulting/ Learn the business and management skills you need by enrolling in the University of Tennessee Physician Executive MBA program at nonclinicalphysicians.com/physicianmba. Get the FREE GUIDE to 10 Nonclinical Careers at nonclinicalphysicians.com/freeguide. Get a list of 70 nontraditional jobs at nonclinicalphysicians.com/70jobs.                                                                                                 =============== Drawing from John Jurica's journey and years of coaching experience, this solo episode unveils five powerful strategies that dramatically speed up physician career transitions, whether you're pursuing a hospital leadership role, launching a side business, or seeking any nonclinical position. The foundation begins with crafting a written career plan complete with your personal mission, vision, and SMART goals—providing clarity and decision-making guidance when opportunities arise. John shares an example of what his career roadmap might have looked like during the transition to hospital CMO, demonstrating how specificity creates momentum. Building on this foundation, John explores four complementary acceleration tools:  finding an accountability partner who keeps you honest about commitments, developing strategic mentor relationships with those who've walked your desired path, investing in professional career coaching for structured guidance, and harnessing the exponential power of mastermind groups where collective wisdom propels everyone forward.  The episode concludes with thoughts on a potential hospital management mastermind program John is considering launching for physicians specifically targeting C-suite positions. You'll find links mentioned in the episode at nonclinicalphysicians.com/astonishing-results/

Dr. Armin Feldman's Pretrial Prelitigation Medical Legal Consulting Coaching Program will teach you to build your own nonclinical consulting business as a valued consultant to attorneys without doing med mal cases or expert witness work. Armin will teach you everything from business concepts to the medicine involved when launching your new consulting business during one year of unlimited coaching. For more information, go to nonclinicalphysicians.com/mlconsulting/ Learn the business and management skills you need by enrolling in the University of Tennessee Physician Executive MBA program at nonclinicalphysicians.com/physicianmba. Get the FREE GUIDE to 10 Nonclinical Careers at nonclinicalphysicians.com/freeguide. Get a list of 70 nontraditional jobs at nonclinicalphysicians.com/70jobs.                                                                                                 =============== In this classic episode from 2020, I revisit my conversation with Dr. Jessie Benson, who transformed from a high-achieving anesthesiologist and critical care specialist to a multifaceted creator pursuing life coaching, art, music, and homesteading. After nearly a decade in medicine, Dr. Benson realized she was caught in an endless cycle of chasing approval and achievement—from being first in her medical school class to earning "best fellow" honors at Cleveland Clinic. She shares her four-year journey to break free from perfectionism and fear of rejection, which began with exploring creative pursuits while still practicing and culminated in paying off $250,000 in medical school debt before giving six months' notice to her practice. Dr. Benson discusses her post-medicine path, including becoming a professional artist with a unique beeswax technique, learning to play cello, embarking on an eight-month RV journey across America, and eventually settling in Floyd, Virginia to pursue homesteading. She also explains how her coaching practice evolved from project management to helping clients overcome "barrier beliefs," culminating in her "Brave is Beautiful Circle" program designed specifically for women physicians seeking authenticity and creativity. You'll find links mentioned in the episode at nonclinicalphysicians.com/intensivist-to-coach/ 

Dr. Armin Feldman's Pretrial Prelitigation Medical Legal Consulting Coaching Program will teach you to build your own nonclinical consulting business as a valued consultant to attorneys without doing med mal cases or expert witness work. Armin will teach you everything from business concepts to the medicine involved when launching your new consulting business during one year of unlimited coaching. For more information, go to nonclinicalphysicians.com/mlconsulting/ Learn the business and management skills you need by enrolling in the University of Tennessee Physician Executive MBA program at nonclinicalphysicians.com/physicianmba. Get the FREE GUIDE to 10 Nonclinical Careers at nonclinicalphysicians.com/freeguide. Get a list of 70 nontraditional jobs at nonclinicalphysicians.com/70jobs.                                                                                                 =============== In our 400th episode, we're marking a milestone by diving into something deeply personal and highly practical—what it's like to build, grow, and sell a senior care business. I've had the unique experience of serving as an informal consultant, advisor, and broker to my wife, Kay, as she launched and ultimately sold her own successful in-home senior care franchise. Whether you're a physician looking for a new income stream, a career pivot, or even a nonclinical business opportunity outside of medicine, this episode is packed with insights on how small business ownership can lead to significant financial growth, flexibility, and long-term wealth. I walk through real-world numbers, growth stages, challenges during the COVID-19 pandemic, and why a franchise model may be the ideal entry point for healthcare professionals venturing into entrepreneurship. You'll also hear about the pros and cons of buying vs. building, funding options, and how to evaluate return on investment when purchasing a business. If you've ever thought about starting a business, investing in one, or just escaping a high-stress clinical role, this episode is a powerful look at what's possible—and profitable. I discuss how my wife's business grew to generate substantial income with minimal time commitment, the advantages of the franchise model, including training and support, and how you could apply these same principles to Direct Primary Care practices for potentially greater autonomy and higher income than traditional employment. You'll find links mentioned in the episode at nonclinicalphysicians.com/hidden-value/ 

Dr. Armin Feldman's Pretrial Prelitigation Medical Legal Consulting Coaching Program will teach you to build your own nonclinical consulting business as a valued consultant to attorneys without doing med mal cases or expert witness work. Armin will teach you everything from business concepts to the medicine involved when launching your new consulting business during one year of unlimited coaching. For more information go to nonclinicalphysicians.com/mlconsulting/ Learn the business and management skills you need by enrolling in the University of Tennessee Physician Executive MBA program at nonclinicalphysicians.com/physicianmba. Get the FREE GUIDE to 10 Nonclinical Careers at nonclinicalphysicians.com/freeguide. Get a list of 70 nontraditional jobs at nonclinicalphysicians.com/70jobs.                                                                                                 =============== In this classic episode from 2020, John interviews Laura Garnett, a performance strategist who transformed her own career crisis at Google into a framework for helping professionals discover what truly fulfills them. Laura shares her journey from dairy farm beginnings to corporate success and ultimately developing her "Zone of Genius" methodology after experiencing profound dissatisfaction despite achieving her career goals. Laura distinguishes between fleeting passions and deeper purpose, explaining that professional satisfaction comes from identifying both your "genius" (intellectual challenge) and "purpose" (intrinsic motivation). She guides listeners through practical techniques for self-observation, documenting moments of peak engagement, and recognizing patterns in fulfilling work experiences that reveal their unique strengths. For physicians feeling trapped or unfulfilled, Laura's approach offers a pathway to break free from conformity in medicine. Her books and performance trackers available on lauragarnett.com provide resources for self-guided discovery, reframing career development as a process of self-empowerment rather than following predetermined paths—a particularly valuable perspective for medical professionals accustomed to structured career progression. You'll find links mentioned in the episode at nonclinicalphysicians.com/find-your-zone-of-genius/ 

Dr. Armin Feldman's Pretrial Prelitigation Medical Legal Consulting Coaching Program will teach you to build your own nonclinical consulting business as a valued consultant to attorneys without doing med mal cases or expert witness work. Armin will teach you everything from business concepts to the medicine involved when launching your new consulting business during one year of unlimited coaching. For more information go to nonclinicalphysicians.com/mlconsulting/ Learn the business and management skills you need by enrolling in the University of Tennessee Physician Executive MBA program at nonclinicalphysicians.com/physicianmba. Get the FREE GUIDE to 10 Nonclinical Careers at nonclinicalphysicians.com/freeguide. Get a list of 70 nontraditional jobs at nonclinicalphysicians.com/70jobs.                                                                                                 =============== Physicians facing career roadblocks due to National Practitioner Data Bank (NPDB) reports often feel trapped—but there are solutions. In this episode, John explores real-world strategies for overcoming the challenges posed by damaging databank reports. From understanding which employers and institutions have access to these records to identifying career paths where they hold little to no weight, he breaks down key insights that can help physicians regain control of their professional futures. John discusses alternative work opportunities that bypass NPDB scrutiny, such as locum tenens, small independent clinics, telemedicine, and specialized practices like addiction medicine and medical marijuana clinics. Additionally, he explores entrepreneurial options, including cash-only direct primary care (DPC), concierge medicine, and aesthetic practices, where physicians can sidestep traditional employer-based credentialing barriers. This episode provides actionable steps for navigating the challenges of an NPDB report and exploring career options with greater flexibility. Learn how to strategically position yourself in today's job market and continue practicing medicine on your own terms. Tune in now to discover practical, real-world solutions for overcoming employment roadblocks. You'll find links mentioned in the episode at nonclinicalphysicians.com/damaging-national-practitioner-databank-reports/

Dr. Armin Feldman's Pretrial Prelitigation Medical Legal Consulting Coaching Program will teach you to build your own nonclinical consulting business as a valued consultant to attorneys without doing med mal cases or expert witness work. Armin will teach you everything from business concepts to the medicine involved when launching your new consulting business during one year of unlimited coaching. For more information go to nonclinicalphysicians.com/mlconsulting/ Learn the business and management skills you need by enrolling in the University of Tennessee Physician Executive MBA program at nonclinicalphysicians.com/physicianmba. Get the FREE GUIDE to 10 Nonclinical Careers at nonclinicalphysicians.com/freeguide. Get a list of 70 nontraditional jobs at nonclinicalphysicians.com/70jobs.                                                                                                 =============== In today's episode, John shares a lesson from the Nonclinical Career Academy focusing on popular home-based careers that physicians can pursue. Many doctors seek flexibility and greater control over their schedules, and home-based work offers a unique opportunity to achieve both while leveraging their medical expertise. John discusses several options, including chart reviews, medical writing, telemedicine, consulting, and coaching. He explains how these careers provide convenience, potential cost savings, and the ability to balance family or caregiving responsibilities. He also highlights important considerations such as flexibility, part-time opportunities, and the potential challenges of isolation or burnout. Whether you're exploring nonclinical paths or simply looking for ways to work from home, this episode provides valuable insights into how physicians can create fulfilling careers outside of traditional clinical practice. You'll find links mentioned in the episode at nonclinicalphysicians.com/popular-home-based-careers/

Dr. Armin Feldman's Pretrial Prelitigation Medical Legal Consulting Coaching Program will teach you to build your own nonclinical consulting business as a valued consultant to attorneys without doing med mal cases or expert witness work. Armin will teach you everything from business concepts to the medicine involved when launching your new consulting business during one year of unlimited coaching. For more information go to nonclinicalphysicians.com/mlconsulting/ Learn the business and management skills you need by enrolling in the University of Tennessee Physician Executive MBA program at nonclinicalphysicians.com/physicianmba. Get the FREE GUIDE to 10 Nonclinical Careers at nonclinicalphysicians.com/freeguide. Get a list of 70 nontraditional jobs at nonclinicalphysicians.com/70jobs.                                                                                                 =============== John Jurica, MD explores physician advisor roles in Utilization Management (UM) and Clinical Documentation Integrity (CDI) as sought-after nonclinical career paths for physicians. In this episode, he breaks down how these hospital-based positions allow doctors to leverage their medical expertise without direct patient care while working in flexible capacities. The episode details the daily responsibilities of physician advisors, who play crucial roles in hospital operations, case management, and reimbursement optimization. Jurica provides a practical roadmap for physicians to transition into these fields, including strategies for gaining relevant experience while still practicing clinically, recommended certifications, and networking approaches with key decision-makers. Listeners will learn how physician advisor positions can serve as strategic stepping stones to higher-paying leadership roles like Chief Medical Officer (CMO). The episode covers both the practical aspects of breaking into these careers—even without prior experience—and the professional satisfaction of impacting healthcare quality and efficiency from a systems perspective. This comprehensive guide is ideal for physicians exploring nonclinical career options that offer competitive salaries, flexible schedules, and pathways to hospital leadership. You'll find links mentioned in the episode at nonclinicalphysicians.com/nonclinical-hospital-jobs/

Dr. Armin Feldman's Pretrial Prelitigation Medical Legal Consulting Coaching Program will teach you to build your own nonclinical consulting business as a valued consultant to attorneys without doing med mal cases or expert witness work. Armin will teach you everything from business concepts to the medicine involved when launching your new consulting business during one year of unlimited coaching. For more information go to nonclinicalphysicians.com/mlconsulting/ Learn the business and management skills you need by enrolling in the University of Tennessee Physician Executive MBA program at nonclinicalphysicians.com/physicianmba. Get the FREE GUIDE to 10 Nonclinical Careers at nonclinicalphysicians.com/freeguide. Get a list of 70 nontraditional jobs at nonclinicalphysicians.com/70jobs.                                                                                                 =============== Dr. Kaci Durbin is an obstetrician-gynecologist who transitioned from clinical practice to a fulfilling career in medical writing. After working as an OB hospitalist, she discovered medical writing as a nonclinical path that offered flexibility, intellectual challenge, and job security while still utilizing her medical expertise. Dr. Durbin built her portfolio and professional network from scratch, starting with freelance CME and regulatory writing projects. She shares her journey from securing her first writing gigs to eventually landing a full-time position as a medical writer and technical writer for a Contract Research Organization (CRO), where she now focuses on clinical trial documentation. During our interview, Dr. Durbin provides actionable advice for physicians interested in breaking into medical writing, including the pros and cons of freelancing versus full-time employment, key resources and courses for newcomers, and strategies for leveraging clinical experience. Her story offers a practical roadmap for doctors seeking remote, flexible work outside of direct patient care. You'll find links mentioned in the episode at nonclinicalphysicians.com/new-technical-writing-job/

Dr. Armin Feldman's Pretrial Prelitigation Medical Legal Consulting Coaching Program will teach you to build your own nonclinical consulting business as a valued consultant to attorneys without doing med mal cases or expert witness work. Armin will teach you everything from business concepts to the medicine involved when launching your new consulting business during one year of unlimited coaching. For more information go to nonclinicalphysicians.com/mlconsulting/ Learn the business and management skills you need by enrolling in the University of Tennessee Physician Executive MBA program at nonclinicalphysicians.com/physicianmba. Get the FREE GUIDE to 10 Nonclinical Careers at nonclinicalphysicians.com/freeguide. Get a list of 70 nontraditional jobs at nonclinicalphysicians.com/70jobs.                                                                                                 =============== On the podcast this week, John discusses the concept of Direct Primary Care (DPC). First appearing in the early 2000's, this type of practice is characterized by the elimination of third party payers. In most cases, insurance billing is replaced by a subscription or “membership” model in which patients prepay for their care on a monthly or quarterly basis. The typical DPC practice agrees to provide a comprehensive set of outpatient services that meet the needs of most patients. Hospitalizations and high-cost surgeries are generally covered by traditional insurance. Under this model, the elimination of insurance billing results in lower overhead, less paperwork, fewer employees, and better access by expanding the use of texting, phone calls, email, and telemedicine. Office visits are generally longer and more comprehensive with less time spent on paperwork. While originally designed for primary care, there are examples of specialty-based DPC-style payment arrangements. John describes why this can be the solution to burnout and a way to recover the joy of practicing medicine while earning a very good income. He also explains that creating a DPC practice requires extensive planning and significant financial resources, but less than opening a traditional practice. And he offers his thoughts on transitioning from employment to your own DPC practice. You'll find links mentioned in the episode at nonclinicalphysicians.com/direct-primary-care-practice/

Dr. Armin Feldman's Pretrial Prelitigation Medical Legal Consulting Coaching Program will teach you to build your own nonclinical consulting business as a valued consultant to attorneys without doing med mal cases or expert witness work. Armin will teach you everything from business concepts to the medicine involved when launching your new consulting business during one year of unlimited coaching. For more information go to nonclinicalphysicians.com/mlconsulting/ Learn the business and management skills you need by enrolling in the University of Tennessee Physician Executive MBA program at nonclinicalphysicians.com/physicianmba. Get the FREE GUIDE to 10 Nonclinical Careers at nonclinicalphysicians.com/freeguide. Get a list of 70 nontraditional jobs at nonclinicalphysicians.com/70jobs.                                                                                                 =============== John Jurica has been producing the Physician Nonclinical Careers Podcast for more than 7 years. Over those years, he has produced several free and paid resources designed to help physicians more quickly identify and pursue those nonclinical and unconventional clinical careers. But not all of the podcast listeners have heard about those resources. In this week's podcast episode, John describes the most popular written and audiovisual content that he has created himself, or that he promotes for other physician career experts. He starts by describing the Nonclinical Career Academy: Thirty courses on popular nonclinical career topics, plus over 50 short Q&A sessions Option to purchase for a one-time fee or monthly membership. He then presents two free resources: the Five Career Guide provides details covering 4 hospital-based management jobs plus medical writing, and the 70 Nonclinical Careers checklist lists the most popular nonclinical and unconventional clinical careers. He then lists 6 more paid courses that provide training in specific fields or strategies: Build a Rewarding, Lucrative Career as a Medical Science Liaison, the 2024 Nonclinical Career Summit with 12 lectures by 12 experts, the Expert Witness Startup School presented by Dr. Gretchen Green, LinkedIn for Physicians and the Carpé Diem Resumé Kit by Dr. Heather Fork, and the Medical Affairs Associates Program presented by Dr. Paul Hercock. He closes by describing how to access the recordings of his weekly Q&A sessions. You'll find links mentioned in the episode at nonclinicalphysicians.com/valuable-resources/ 

Dr. Armin Feldman's Pretrial Prelitigation Medical Legal Consulting Coaching Program will teach you to build your own nonclinical consulting business as a valued consultant to attorneys without doing med mal cases or expert witness work. Armin will teach you everything from business concepts to the medicine involved when launching your new consulting business during one year of unlimited coaching. For more information go to nonclinicalphysicians.com/mlconsulting/ Learn the business and management skills you need by enrolling in the University of Tennessee Physician Executive MBA program at nonclinicalphysicians.com/physicianmba. Get the FREE GUIDE to 10 Nonclinical Careers at nonclinicalphysicians.com/freeguide. Get a list of 70 nontraditional jobs at nonclinicalphysicians.com/70jobs.                                                                                                 =============== Today's episode is Part 2 of my interview with Dr. Robert Cooper, an endocrinologist who has successfully integrated nonclinical work into his career. In Episode 391, we discussed how Robert transitioned into part-time consulting, including expert witness work and other forms of knowledge consulting. In this episode, we continue the conversation by diving deeper into disability file reviews, medical necessity reviews, and peer-to-peer consulting. Robert explains how physicians from all specialties—especially primary care—can tap into these opportunities, optimize their earnings, and navigate the industry to avoid low-paying or unethical companies. We also explore the challenges and benefits of balancing clinical and nonclinical work, the growing role of locum tenens for career flexibility, and how to transition smoothly into these roles. Robert shares practical strategies for physicians looking to supplement or replace their clinical income while maintaining autonomy and work-life balance. You'll find links mentioned in the episode at nonclinicalphysicians.com/exploit-your-medical-knowledge/

Dr. Armin Feldman's Pretrial Prelitigation Medical Legal Consulting Coaching Program will teach you to build your own nonclinical consulting business as a valued consultant to attorneys without doing med mal cases or expert witness work. Armin will teach you everything from business concepts to the medicine involved when launching your new consulting business during one year of unlimited coaching. For more information go to nonclinicalphysicians.com/mlconsulting/ Learn the business and management skills you need by enrolling in the University of Tennessee Physician Executive MBA program at nonclinicalphysicians.com/physicianmba. Get the FREE GUIDE to 10 Nonclinical Careers at nonclinicalphysicians.com/freeguide. Get a list of 70 nontraditional jobs at nonclinicalphysicians.com/70jobs.                                                                                                 =============== Robert J. Cooper, MD, is an attending physician in the Department of Endocrinology at Holyoke Medical Center in Holyoke, Massachusetts. He received his medical degree from Albert Einstein College of Medicine, Bronx, New York, and completed residency training in internal medicine at Long Island Jewish Hospital, New Hyde Park, New York. He completed fellowship training in endocrinology at Long Island Jewish Hospital and Winthrop–University Hospital, Mineola, New York. He lectured this past year at SEAK on combating physician burnout with nonclinical diversification, including knowledge consulting. He provides keynote lectures and/or provide workshops to physician groups interested in combining nonclinical and clinical activities. During these lectures, he provides a roadmap for entrance to nonclinical work while maintaining a flexible clinical presence. In this week's interview, Robert explains how and why he started adding nonclinical part-time work to his career, as he cut back on his clinical time. John and Robert discuss several types of knowledge consulting, including expert witness consulting. And Robert provides advice for those physicians who want to pursue these opportunities, including how to optimize earnings, and how to please the organizations looking for your assistance. You'll find links mentioned in the episode at nonclinicalphysicians.com/part-time-consulting/ 

Dr. Armin Feldman's Pretrial Prelitigation Medical Legal Consulting Coaching Program will teach you to build your own nonclinical consulting business as a valued consultant to attorneys without doing med mal cases or expert witness work. Armin will teach you everything from business concepts to the medicine involved when launching your new consulting business during one year of unlimited coaching. For more information go to nonclinicalphysicians.com/mlconsulting/ Learn the business and management skills you need by enrolling in the University of Tennessee Physician Executive MBA program at nonclinicalphysicians.com/physicianmba. Get the FREE GUIDE to 10 Nonclinical Careers at nonclinicalphysicians.com/freeguide. Get a list of 70 nontraditional jobs at nonclinicalphysicians.com/70jobs.                                                                                                 =============== Dr. Sanj Katyal's journey began with a solid foundation in science and medicine. He earned a Bachelor of Science in Chemical and Biomedical Engineering from Carnegie Mellon University and a Doctor of Medicine (MD) from New York University School of Medicine. While his early career in radiology and clinical operations brought professional success, it also exposed him to the limitations of traditional Western medicine in addressing the deeper causes of human discontent. The turning point came when Dr. Katyal discovered Rapid Transformational Therapy (RTT) and became a certified hypnotherapist and RTT therapist in 2024. His transformation through RTT, including overcoming a deep-seated fear, reinforced his belief in the power of addressing subconscious limiting beliefs. During today's interview, Dr. Katyal describes the limitations of positive psychology and the benefits of rapid transformational therapy. He then goes on to describe the explosion in mental illness in children and young adults since 2010. He warns parents to be vigilant and proactive concerning the effects of social media on their children. He offers advice on how to protect children from addiction to social media. And he directs them to his website at sanjkatyal.com where they can access additional information. You'll find links mentioned in the episode at nonclinicalphysicians.com/subconscious-mind/

Dr. Armin Feldman's Pretrial Prelitigation Medical Legal Consulting Coaching Program will teach you to build your own nonclinical consulting business as a valued consultant to attorneys without doing med mal cases or expert witness work. Armin will teach you everything from business concepts to the medicine involved when launching your new consulting business during one year of unlimited coaching. For more information go to nonclinicalphysicians.com/mlconsulting/ Learn the business and management skills you need by enrolling in the University of Tennessee Physician Executive MBA program at nonclinicalphysicians.com/physicianmba. Get the FREE GUIDE to 10 Nonclinical Careers at nonclinicalphysicians.com/freeguide. Get a list of 70 nontraditional jobs at nonclinicalphysicians.com/70jobs.                                                                                                 =============== Dr. Megan Leivant received her medical degree from the Indiana University School of Medicine and training in internal medicine residency at McGaw Medical Center of Northwestern University. After practicing internal medicine for ten years, she transitioned to a medical director position for a life insurance company. She now works as VP and Medical Director with another firm. During today's interview, Megan shares what led her to change careers, how she landed her first life insurance job, and advice for others wanting to pursue this career. She lists resources for those wishing to learn more before pursuing a career in life insurance medicine and explains that board certification in the field is available. She also discusses the duties and lifestyle of a life insurance medical director, opportunities for advancement, and the differences between direct and reinsurance companies. Finally, she explains that the intellectual stimulation, ongoing learning, and application of medical knowledge keep her excited about working in this industry. You'll find links mentioned in the episode at nonclinicalphysicians.com/new-life-insurance-medicine-career/

Dr. Armin Feldman's Pretrial Prelitigation Medical Legal Consulting Coaching Program will teach you to build your own nonclinical consulting business as a valued consultant to attorneys without doing med mal cases or expert witness work. Armin will teach you everything from business concepts to the medicine involved when launching your new consulting business during one year of unlimited coaching. For more information go to nonclinicalphysicians.com/mlconsulting/ Learn the business and management skills you need by enrolling in the University of Tennessee Physician Executive MBA program at nonclinicalphysicians.com/physicianmba. Get the FREE GUIDE to 10 Nonclinical Careers at nonclinicalphysicians.com/freeguide. Get a list of 70 nontraditional jobs at nonclinicalphysicians.com/70jobs.                                                                                                 =============== Dr. Michelle Bailey is an Executive Medical Director working in the Pharma Industry since 2016 after having practiced academic pediatrics for 18 years. She has been a Physician Career and Life Coach since 2012. She was a guest on the PNC Podcast 5 years ago when she described her career as a biopharma medical director. In today's interview, she focuses on helping us understand what keeps us from pursuing a satisfying career. She describes the importance of taking a pause before making any major life-changing decisions. And she shares other revelations she has had while coaching physicians during and after the COVID pandemic You'll find links mentioned in the episode at nonclinicalphysicians.com/make-meaningful-changes/

Dr. Armin Feldman's Pretrial Prelitigation Medical Legal Consulting Coaching Program will teach you to build your own nonclinical consulting business as a valued consultant to attorneys without doing med mal cases or expert witness work. Armin will teach you everything from business concepts to the medicine involved when launching your new consulting business during one year of unlimited coaching. For more information go to nonclinicalphysicians.com/mlconsulting/ Learn the business and management skills you need by enrolling in the University of Tennessee Physician Executive MBA program at nonclinicalphysicians.com/physicianmba. Get the FREE GUIDE to 10 Nonclinical Careers at nonclinicalphysicians.com/freeguide. Get a list of 70 nontraditional jobs at nonclinicalphysicians.com/70jobs.                                                                                                 =============== Dr. Helen Rhodes is an obstetrician/gynecologist who was first interviewed in 2019. She became dissatisfied with her practice, so she completely redesigned her clinical career, and added a nonclinical component. Helen received her medical degree from the Texas Tech University Health Sciences Center and completed the Obstetrics and Gynecology Residency Program at the University of Texas Health Science Center in Houston. For her first job, she landed a position in a traditional academic setting. She later tried private practice. Finally, she left traditional practice and began exploring several alternative practice options, while also developing a part-time job as medical director for a plasmapheresis company. During our interview, she describes how she found each position, and how she created her novel career by combining several different clinical and nonclinical pursuits. You'll find links mentioned in the episode at nonclinicalphysicians.com/be-creative-and-flexible/

Dr. Armin Feldman's Pretrial Prelitigation Medical Legal Consulting Coaching Program will teach you to build your own nonclinical consulting business as a valued consultant to attorneys without doing med mal cases or expert witness work. Armin will teach you everything from business concepts to the medicine involved when launching your new consulting business during one year of unlimited coaching. For more information go to nonclinicalphysicians.com/mlconsulting/ Learn the business and management skills you need by enrolling in the University of Tennessee Physician Executive MBA program at nonclinicalphysicians.com/physicianmba. Get the FREE GUIDE to 10 Nonclinical Careers at nonclinicalphysicians.com/freeguide. Get a list of 70 nontraditional jobs at nonclinicalphysicians.com/70jobs.                                                                                                 =============== In this week's podcast episode, John presents his interview with Dr. Jordan Grumet. Jordan is the producer of the popular Earn & Invest Podcast, but he is also a hospice medical director and author of the traditionally published book Taking Stock: A Hospice Doctor's Advice on Financial Independence, Building Wealth, and Living a Regret-Free Life. Jordan earned his medical degree from Northwestern University and completed his internal medicine residency at Washington University in St. Louis, Missouri. He loves writing and especially enjoys the challenge of working with traditional publishing companies. He has written a new book called The Purpose Code: How to unlock meaning, maximize happiness, and leave a lasting legacy. The book is being released on January 7, 2025, the day this podcast interview is forst posted. During our conversation, he describes why many of us misunderstand the concept of one's purpose, by distinguishing “big P” and “little P” versions of the word. He explains the meaning of “purpose anxiety,” why so many of us experience it, and how to overcome it. Finally, Jordan tells us where to find his book, podcast, and website, and the best ways to contact him. You'll find links mentioned in the episode at nonclinicalphysicians.com/the-purpose-code/

Learn the business and management skills you need by enrolling in the University of Tennessee Physician Executive MBA program at nonclinicalphysicians.com/physicianmba. Get the FREE GUIDE to 10 Nonclinical Careers at nonclinicalphysicians.com/freeguide. Get a list of 70 nontraditional jobs at nonclinicalphysicians.com/70jobs.                                        =============== In this week's episode, Dr. Nicole Rochester returns to the podcast. It's been 5 years since she described how she was inspired to create her health navigation consulting business. Since then she has expanded her business and is now working with healthcare organizations to provide her services. She is also teaching other physicians to create their own consulting businesses. Dr. Nicole Rochester obtained her undergraduate degree from Johns Hopkins University and her medical degree from the University of Maryland School of Medicine. She is a Clinical Assistant Professor of Pediatrics at the George Washington University School of Medicine. During today's interview, Nicole describes why she began working as a coach and consultant for patients with complex medical problems who needed help making decisions and navigating their healthcare journey. She also explains how she began providing these services on behalf of large health systems and hospitals, which is a much more sustainable model. She also shares her ideas for other healthcare coaching and consulting businesses to use a similar strategy. Finally, she invites physicians to contact her about learning to be a healthcare navigator by joining her group training program. All of her resources can be found at yourgpsdoc.com. You'll find links mentioned in the episode at nonclinicalphysicians.com/fantastic-b2b-business/

Learn the business and management skills you need by enrolling in the University of Tennessee Physician Executive MBA program at nonclinicalphysicians.com/physicianmba. Get the FREE GUIDE to 10 Nonclinical Careers at nonclinicalphysicians.com/freeguide. Get a list of 70 nontraditional jobs at nonclinicalphysicians.com/70jobs.                                                              =============== In this week's podcast episode, John addresses this question: Even if I'm burned out and frustrated, are there ways to stay in clinical medicine while achieving balance, satisfaction, and enjoyment? During this presentation, he discusses the following 5 options for remaining in clinical practice. Take another stab at addressing the circumstances leading to dissatisfaction by aggressively renegotiating your employment contract. Review your contract and identify the major issues causing your frustration. Develop a strategy for renegotiating those issues with your attorney. These typically involve vacation time and covering for others' vacations, work hours, salary, restrictive covenants, and inadequate pay for collaborating with midlevel providers. If you're looking for a new job, consider engaging an agent to represent you in contract negotiations with a new employer, often at no cost to you. Start a new practice or join one that does not bill insurance companies. Direct Primary Care and Concierge practices, and narrow-focused practices often enable the physicians to work on cash-only, fee-for-service, or membership models, and to create a better lifestyle and income. Almost any of us could start or transition to a narrow focused practice. John's colleague was a full-time general pediatrician who transitioned to caring solely for patients with attention deficit disorder. He uses standard protocols for evaluation and management, and is an expert at billing for these services. He reduced his staff and overhead and his satisfaction and income have improved. Finally, for those who want to achieve many of the above advantages, and others, without starting a practice, working as a micro-corporation may be a great choice. Incorporating and working as an independent contractor for a large group or hospital system provides more tax benefits, flexible investment opportunities, and off-loading the expenses for rent and staffing.  You'll find links mentioned in the episode at nonclinicalphysicians.com/save-your-career/

Learn the business and management skills you need by enrolling in the University of Tennessee Physician Executive MBA program at nonclinicalphysicians.com/physicianmba. Get the FREE GUIDE to 10 Nonclinical Careers at nonclinicalphysicians.com/freeguide. Get a list of 70 nontraditional jobs at nonclinicalphysicians.com/70jobs.                                                              =============== Dr. Zhen Chan knew early on that he wanted to be a physician and to develop new technologies and businesses to improve patient care and physician satisfaction and fulfillment. So it made sense that he would pause his medical education and obtain a traditional MBA degree. With those degrees under his belt, he attended a pediatric residency. He went one step further and worked for a venture capital firm during his first year of pediatric practice. Now he is the CEO of a start-up company and a part-time practicing pediatrician. The company he leads, Grapevyne, facilitates job searches for physicians while reducing the costs of recruitment to hospitals and medical groups. During our conversation today, Zhen describes what motivated him to attempt to balance 2 major careers so early in his career. Then we learn about his vision for Grapevyne, and what has been accomplished so far. He also provides details on the Grapevyne incentive program that encourages physicians to share job openings with each other by offering modest finders fees. And he shares his vision for growing the company while offering other valuable free and low-cost services to physicians, including referrals for nonclinical jobs. You'll find links mentioned in the episode at nonclinicalphysicians.com/new-way-to-find-a-job/

Learn the business and management skills you need by enrolling in the University of Tennessee Physician Executive MBA program at nonclinicalphysicians.com/physicianmba. Get the FREE GUIDE to 10 Nonclinical Careers at nonclinicalphysicians.com/freeguide. Get a list of 70 nontraditional jobs at nonclinicalphysicians.com/70jobs.                                                              =============== Today John presents his interview with a medical entrepreneur who started a business to improve patient access. A business that thrived during the Covid Pandemic while other businesses were struggling. TJ Oshun emigrated from Nigeria 20 years ago. He became a physician assistant and enrolled in medical school. This was about 5 years before the Covid Pandemic hit. He was inspired to start his business when he saw how much difficulty patients faced because hospital emergency rooms were the only option for care at night and on weekends in his community. During our conversation, TJ described how he established CallonDoc, a company that started by connecting patients with medical providers by telephone. He quickly expanded to telehealth and telemedicine, hiring software engineers to build his own platform for delivering the care. He was well positioned when the pandemic occurred to provide the care needed during lockdowns. He explains how CallonDoc has flourished since then, providing care across the U.S., and how it has expanded into other service lines You'll find links mentioned in the episode at nonclinicalphysicians.com/fearless-medical-entrepreneur/

Learn the business and management skills you need by enrolling in the University of Tennessee Physician Executive MBA program at nonclinicalphysicians.com/physicianmba. Get the FREE GUIDE to 10 Nonclinical Careers at nonclinicalphysicians.com/freeguide. Get a list of 70 nontraditional jobs at nonclinicalphysicians.com/70jobs.                                                              =============== Today John is shifting his focus to the topic of physician leadership. In the past few years, he has presented interviews with physicians in many unconventional careers with the occasional episode devoted to hospital leadership. During the next few months, he will focus a bit more on opportunities that involve leadership roles in the hospital setting, because that is where most of the intense and expensive care is provided, and where he believes more physician leadership is needed. To start this series, he recommends considering your motives for pursuing this nonclinical career and provides tips for getting started. Then he spends several minutes describing how physician executives must shift their focus from being decisive tactical “doers” to becoming strategic delegating planners with a focus on organizational accountability. Finally, John describes the importance of personal accountability, optimism, and humility as key attributes for the developing physician leader. You'll find links mentioned in the episode at nonclinicalphysicians.com/be-a-better-physician-leader/

Learn the business and management skills you need by enrolling in the University of Tennessee Physician Executive MBA program at nonclinicalphysicians.com/physicianmba. Get the FREE GUIDE to 10 Nonclinical Careers at nonclinicalphysicians.com/freeguide. Get a list of 70 nontraditional jobs at nonclinicalphysicians.com/70jobs.                                                              =============== In this week's Classic Podcast Episode from 2020, Dr. Jennifer Spector describes how to become a medical editor. Unlike other medical editors who spent years as a paid medical writer, Jennifer parlayed her involvement in a professional society and unpaid writing to land her new editor position. Jennifer is a Board-Certified Podiatric Physician and Surgeon with 14 years of clinical experience. She received her DPM degree from the Temple University School of Podiatric Medicine. Then she completed a three-year residency in podiatric medicine at Christian Care Health System. She spent over 5 years in national leadership positions at the American Association for Women Podiatrists (AAWP). While at the AAWP she was responsible for writing and editing the newsletter and other documents. That experience enabled her to land her position as Associate Editor for Podiatry Today. After working in that position for about 20 months, Jennifer was promoted to Senior Editor followed by Managing Editor at Podiatry Today. In July of 2022, she became one of the Assistant Editorial Directors at HMP Global, the parent company of Podiatry Today and a market leader in international healthcare education and clinician engagement. You'll find links mentioned in the episode at nonclinicalphysicians.com/become-a-medical-editor/

Learn the business and management skills you need by enrolling in the University of Tennessee Physician Executive MBA program at nonclinicalphysicians.com/physicianmba. Get the FREE GUIDE to 10 Nonclinical Careers at nonclinicalphysicians.com/freeguide. Get a list of 70 nontraditional jobs at nonclinicalphysicians.com/70jobs.                                                              =============== Dr. Neetu Sharma is a board-certified internist and nephrologist and Functional Medicine expert. She completed her internal medicine residency at Wayne State University Detroit Medical Center and her nephrology fellowship at the University of Cincinnati. Dr. Sharma worked in a very busy private nephrology practice and became disillusioned with the heavy workload and not getting to the root causes of her patient's medical problems. She considered her options, obtained additional training in Functional Medicine, and decided to completely overhaul her career. She decided to find a stable nonclinical career alternative, while also building a part-time virtual practice that incorporates her traditional medical training with functional medicine. She now works as a medical director for a large health plan full time, applying her medical experience and knowledge every day. She is building a new practice called Zeal Vitality offering personalized proactive wellness plans, advanced diagnostics with biomarker analysis, and holistic strategies to promote weight loss, metabolic and kidney health, and overall vitality. You'll find links mentioned in the episode at nonclinicalphysicians.com/health-insurance-medical-director/

Learn the business and management skills you need by enrolling in the University of Tennessee Physician Executive MBA program at nonclinicalphysicians.com/physicianmba. Get the FREE GUIDE to 10 Nonclinical Careers at nonclinicalphysicians.com/freeguide. Get a list of 70 nontraditional jobs at nonclinicalphysicians.com/70jobs.                                                              =============== Dr. Christian Zouain completed medical school in the Dominican Republic in 2010. He moved to the U.S. and, while applying for U.S. residencies, he leveraged his medical background by working as a medical assistant and scribe, and then as a Medical Case Manager and Utilization Review Specialist at hospital in New York City. There he discovered the field of Clinical Documentation Improvement (CDI). He switched gears and obtained training in CDI and ICD-10 Coding. He used LinkedIn to network and discovered a hospital nearby looking to hire physician CDI specialists for their CDI program. He was hired in 2015 and has worked in the field ever since. He has worked as a CDI (now Clinical Documentation Integrity) Specialist, Medical Reviewer, and Auditor, on-site and remotely, as an employee and as a self-employed freelancer. During this classic interview, Christian describes his journey, the attraction of working in the industry, and the resources to help physicians land their first CDI position. You'll find links mentioned in the episode at nonclinicalphysicians.com/become-a-cdi-expert/

Learn the business and management skills you need by enrolling in the University of Tennessee Physician Executive MBA program at nonclinicalphysicians.com/physicianmba. Get the FREE GUIDE to 10 Nonclinical Careers at nonclinicalphysicians.com/freeguide. Get a list of 70 nontraditional jobs at nonclinicalphysicians.com/70jobs.                                                              =============== Dr. Heather Fork is an ICF master certified coach helping physicians find their best career path forward, whether in medicine, a nonclinical career, or something else. Heather is passionate about making it easier for physicians to navigate their careers. She hosts the weekly Doctor's Crossing Carpe Diem Podcast. And she has created several helpful free resources and paid courses, which can be found at doctorscrossing.com. Besides her coaching, two of her most popular resources are the Carpe Diem Resumé Kit and her course LinkedIn for Physicians (both are affiliate links so I may receive a payment if you purchase the course using my link - John). In today's interview, Heather helps us understand the root causes of procrastination. She then shares a model about procrastination and several tactics for overcoming it. Finally, she closes by describing how to use Artificial Intelligence to help eliminate this roadblock to your progress.  You'll find links mentioned in the episode at nonclinicalphysicians.com/procrastination/.

Learn the business and management skills you need by enrolling in the University of Tennessee Physician Executive MBA program at nonclinicalphysicians.com/physicianmba. Get the FREE GUIDE to 10 Nonclinical Careers at nonclinicalphysicians.com/freeguide. Get a list of 70 nontraditional jobs at nonclinicalphysicians.com/70jobs.                                                              =============== Greg Gilbaugh, DDS, completed his dental education, including an advanced dental residency, at the University of Iowa. Dr. Gilbaugh then established the Family Dental Center, near Cedar Rapids, which he has run for over 30 years. During his long career he was forced to rebuild his practice from the ground up not once, but twice due to “once in a lifetime” natural disasters. Then, when the dust finally settled, he was diagnosed with a physical disability that meant he could no longer practice dentistry and was forced to put his full focus on running the business side of his practice. This led to him establishing the Kalos Business Group through which he speaks and consults on leadership and business development, helping others in their journey to connect that which is most important with the area in which they spend the most time (their business). He is also the author of Letting Good Things Run Wild. You will find all of the links mentioned in the episode at nonclinicalphysicians.com/beat-burnout-for-good/

Learn the business and management skills you need by enrolling in the University of Tennessee Physician Executive MBA program at nonclinicalphysicians.com/physicianmba. Get the FREE GUIDE to 10 Nonclinical Careers at nonclinicalphysicians.com/freeguide. Get a list of 70 nontraditional jobs at nonclinicalphysicians.com/70jobs.                                                              =============== Today's episode is Part 2 of my interview with Dr. Tod Stillson. Tod is a family physician who discovered that he could improve his autonomy and increase his income by incorporating and switching from employee to micro-corporation owner. In Episode 374 we learned that 10 years ago he discovered he could practice under a professional services agreement with the hospital system, so he incorporated and began working as a mini-corporation. We pick up the interview with Tod, who explains how he shifted from employment to working using a professional services agreement. Then, he discusses a variety of benefits that you can access under this new model. We also discuss the free and paid resources available to help physicians including his book, Doctor Incorporated: Stop the Insanity of Traditional Employment and Preserve Your Professional Autonomy, a blog, a membership program, free e-books, and consultation services. Before closing, we discuss other options for physicians seeking more fulfillment and control, including direct primary care and other cash-only practices, and compare them to the microcorporation employment-lite approach to contracting with an employer. You will find all of the links mentioned in the episode at nonclinicalphysicians.com/benefits-of-a-professional-corporation

Learn the business and management skills you need by enrolling in the University of Tennessee Physician Executive MBA program at nonclinicalphysicians.com/physicianmba. Get the FREE GUIDE to 10 Nonclinical Careers at nonclinicalphysicians.com/freeguide. Get a list of 70 nontraditional jobs at nonclinicalphysicians.com/70jobs.                                                              =============== Dr. Tod Stillson earned his medical degree at the Indiana University School of Medicine. He then completed a Family Medicine Residency and a one-year fellowship focusing on Obstetrics at the Roanoke Memorial Hospital in Roanoke, Virginia. He has practiced Family Medicine in North Central Indiana for almost 30 years, initially as an employee of the local hospital. About 10 years ago he discovered he could practice under a professional services agreement with the hospital system, so he incorporated and began working as a mini-corporation. That opened up many opportunities for him resulting in more autonomy and a higher income. He has now created several resources to help educate other physicians about incorporating and contracting with employers in this new way. These include a book called Doctor Incorporated: Stop the Insanity of Traditional Employment and Preserve Your Professional Autonomy, a blog, a membership program, free e-books, and consultation services. This week's podcast is Part 1 of the 2-Part interview, which concludes with Episode 375 of the Physician Nonclinical Careers Podcast in one week. You will find all of the links mentioned in the episode at nonclinicalphysicians.com/win-as-a-micro-corporation/ 

Learn the business and management skills you need by enrolling in the University of Tennessee Physician Executive MBA program at nonclinicalphysicians.com/physicianmba. Get the FREE GUIDE to 10 Nonclinical Careers at nonclinicalphysicians.com/freeguide. Get a list of 70 nontraditional jobs at nonclinicalphysicians.com/70jobs.                                                              =============== This is Part 2 of our interview with Dr. Debra Blaine. Dr. Debra Blaine is a retired family physician who has always wanted to be a novelist. So she began writing and published her first book a few years ago using a hybrid publisher. Following that experience, she decided to learn how to self-publish. She has now written seven books, publishing most of them herself. She now helps other authors write and self-publish their books. Her most recent book is a self-published book about self-publishing. In today's episode, we close the interview as Debra explains how she helps her clients develop and write their novels and nonfiction books. You will find all of the links mentioned in the episode at nonclinicalphysicians.com/more-on-how-to-publish/

Learn the business and management skills you need by enrolling in the University of Tennessee Physician Executive MBA program at nonclinicalphysicians.com/physicianmba. Get the FREE GUIDE to 10 Nonclinical Careers at nonclinicalphysicians.com/freeguide. Get a list of 70 nontraditional jobs at nonclinicalphysicians.com/70jobs.                                                              =============== Dr. Debra Blaine is a retired family physician who has always wanted to be a novelist. So she began writing and published her first book a few years ago using a hybrid publisher. However, she was frustrated by the costs and long publication process required using a hybrid. She continued writing books and taught herself how to self-publish both fiction and nonfiction books. She has now written seven books and helps other authors write and self-publish their books. Her most recent book is a self-published book about self-publishing. Today she returns to the podcast to share what she has learned with you. And to try to convince you to write and self-publish your book as a way to promote your clinical or nonclinical business. You will find all of the links mentioned in the episode at nonclinicalphysicians.com/how-to-publish-a-book/ 

Learn the business and management skills you need by enrolling in the University of Tennessee Physician Executive MBA program at nonclinicalphysicians.com/physicianmba. Get the FREE GUIDE to 10 Nonclinical Careers at nonclinicalphysicians.com/freeguide. Get a list of 70 nontraditional jobs at nonclinicalphysicians.com/70jobs.                                                              =============== Today I want to provide an update on the part-time work providing remote collaboration and supervision. This is also known as working as a remote medical director. One of the attractive parts of this job is that you are paid for being AVAILABLE for collaboration. So, you can generate income while doing other things to some extent. It's something that I have been doing for the past 2 ½ years. I've been the medical director for a new urgent care network since 2014. Four years ago I began cutting back on my clinic hours and completely withdrew 2 years ago from direct patient care. However I still serves as remote medical director, collaborating as needed with APNs and PAs, updating policies, reviewing charts, and performing other medical director duties. In today's presentation, I focus on providing these services through third-party companies that find opportunities for collaborating physicians, connecting them with healthcare organizations that need help. This presentation is the recording of a Q&A Session held in January of this year. You can learn about these free sessions by signing up for my emails at nonclinicalphysicians.com/dailyemail. You will find all of the links mentioned in the episode at nonclinicalphysicians.com/remote-collaboration/

Learn the business and management skills you need by enrolling in the University of Tennessee Physician Executive MBA program at nonclinicalphysicians.com/physicianmba. Get the FREE GUIDE to 10 Nonclinical Careers at nonclinicalphysicians.com/freeguide. Get a list of 70 nontraditional jobs at nonclinicalphysicians.com/70jobs.                                                              =============== Emma Nichols, PhD, first appeared on the PNC podcast to discuss one of the most popular freelance nonclinical jobs available to physicians and other clinicians: medical writing. In today's replay from 2018, we're provided a comprehensive overview of freelance medical writing. Emma has a doctorate in molecular biology and started writing professionally early in her career. She quickly became a seasoned medical communications professional specializing in continuing medical education and medical news writing. Her company, Nascent Medical, now provides expert medical writing services through its team of experienced MD- and PhD-level writers. In addition to being a seasoned medical writer, she has been teaching others how to set up and market their own medical writing businesses through her Six-Week Course on Freelance Medical Writing. In fact, several of my podcast guests have completed her course prior to starting their own medical writing careers. You will find all of the links mentioned in the episode at nonclinicalphysicians.com/be-a-freelance-medical-writer/ 

Sponsored by Dr. Armin Feldman: Master the art of medical legal consulting and transform your career with expert coaching in pre-litigation, pre-trial consulting at nonclinicalphysicians.com/mlconsulting or at arminfeldman.com. =============== This week, John focuses on one of the 3 popular nonclinical careers he discussed in last week's episode, that of hospital Chief Medical Officer (CMO). He uses the 100 Top Hospitals Award as a model for physicians to identify the expertise they should develop to fulfill the role of CMO. He describes the components of the Top 100 Hospital Award: Mortality Rate Complication Rate Healthcare Associated Infection Rate 30-Day Mortality Rate 30-Day Readmission Rate Length of Stay Spending Per Beneficiary Expense Per Discharge HCAHPS (Patient Satisfaction) Scores Adjusted Operating Profit Margin Looking at this list, in most hospitals the CMO is the professional with the training and experience most able to address the first 6 items. Knowing that, it behooves physicians planning to seek a CMO role to develop experience in hospital quality improvement and patient safety, utilization management, coding and documentation, infection prevention, and information management. During this short tutorial, John describes how physicians can efficiently develop those skills through part-time volunteer and paid roles in their hospitals using this model to direct them. You will find all of the links mentioned in the episode at https://nonclinicalphysicians.com/best-cmo-leading-a-top-100-hospital/ =============== Learn the business and management skills you need by enrolling in the University of Tennessee Physician Executive MBA program at nonclinicalphysicians.com/physicianmba. Get the FREE GUIDE to 10 Nonclinical Careers at nonclinicalphysicians.com/freeguide. Get a list of 70 nontraditional jobs at nonclinicalphysicians.com/70jobs.

Learn the business and management skills you need by enrolling in the University of Tennessee Physician Executive MBA program at nonclinicalphysicians.com/physicianmba. Get the FREE GUIDE to 10 Nonclinical Careers at nonclinicalphysicians.com/freeguide. Get a list of 70 nontraditional jobs at nonclinicalphysicians.com/70jobs.                                                              =============== This week, John describes why it is natural to want to “level up” your career once you have accomplished all you want to do as a clinician, using professional athletes and attorneys as examples. Leveling up is a process of taking your career to the next level by building on your education, training, and experience to a new level of satisfaction and income. He does this by selecting and describing the 3 most popular full-time nonclinical careers. Each year thousands of physicians are recruited for these positions. They generally offer excellent benefits, competitive salaries, and room for advancement. John describes their pros and cons and lists resources to use to find and land your first job. For those who don't want to spend 6 to 12 months researching all possible options, focusing on these jobs in the hospital, biopharma, and health insurance industries will help accelerate your transition. You will find all of the links mentioned in the episode at nonclinicalphysicians.com/popular-full-time-careers/

Sponsored by Dr. Armin Feldman: Master the art of medical legal consulting and transform your career with expert coaching in pre-litigation, pre-trial consulting at nonclinicalphysicians.com/mlconsulting or at arminfeldman.com. =============== Dr. Armin Feldman is a psychiatrist who learned to work with attorneys as an expert witness early in his career. After selling a nationwide network of head injury rehabilitation centers, he focused on helping attorneys with pre-trial consultations to help with their cases to obtain better settlements, and more appropriate medical care for their clients. About 16 years ago he began teaching other physicians how to duplicate his pre-litigation, pretrial medical legal consulting business. Through his coaching and support, he instructs physicians on the medicine involved, and the marketing, operational, legal, and financial aspects necessary to create a viable consulting business. In this classic replay from 2021, he explains what he does, how it is different from expert witness consulting, and why it has become so popular. He also explains how his medical legal consulting coaching works and how to reach him to learn more about it. You will find all of the links mentioned in the episode at nonclinicalphysicians.com/best-new-physician-consulting-business. =============== Learn the business and management skills you need by enrolling in the University of Tennessee Physician Executive MBA program at nonclinicalphysicians.com/physicianmba. Get the FREE GUIDE to 10 Nonclinical Careers at nonclinicalphysicians.com/freeguide. Get a list of 70 nontraditional jobs at nonclinicalphysicians.com/70jobs.

Learn the business and management skills you need by enrolling in the University of Tennessee Physician Executive MBA program at nonclinicalphysicians.com/physicianmba. Get the FREE GUIDE to 10 Nonclinical Careers at nonclinicalphysicians.com/freeguide. Get a list of 70 nontraditional jobs at nonclinicalphysicians.com/70jobs. =============== Dr. Sue Zimmerman is an orthopedic surgeon who appeared on the podcast to discuss how she planned for her transition out of traditional medicine after 24 years. She had the foresight to engage a career coach before she needed to shift gears. When the time came, she applied a strategy that worked brilliantly for her: find several part-time jobs that aligned with her vision and skills. In her case, that meant knitting together writing, editing, teaching, and providing nonsurgical orthopedic services. The result was a balanced, interesting, fulfilling, and productive lifestyle. In today's replay from 2018, Sue explains how she pulled this off, offering advice, encouragement, and specific tactics for listeners to apply. You will find all of the links mentioned in the episode at nonclinicalphysicians.com/writing-teaching-and-limiting-clinical/

Learn the business and management skills you need by enrolling in the University of Tennessee Physician Executive MBA program at nonclinicalphysicians.com/physicianmba. Get the FREE GUIDE to 10 Nonclinical Careers at nonclinicalphysicians.com/freeguide. Get a list of 70 nontraditional jobs at nonclinicalphysicians.com/70jobs. =============== Dr. Judy Finney is an interventional cardiologist who appeared on the podcast to discuss the amazing field of Life Insurance Medicine in 2018. During this interview, Judy described why she decided to leave clinical medicine, how she quickly landed a job at a life insurance company, and why she loves what she is doing. She also lists several resources and tips to help you find and pursue your first medical director position. At the time of our interview, she was serving as an Associate Medical Director. Since then, she moved on to a Medical Director position for 2 years before accepting a position as Vice President for a major mutual insurance company earlier this year. You will find all of the links mentioned in the episode at nonclinicalphysicians.com/amazing-field-of-life-insurance-medicine/

Learn the business and management skills you need by enrolling in the University of Tennessee Physician Executive MBA program at nonclinicalphysicians.com/physicianmba. Get the FREE GUIDE to 10 Nonclinical Careers at nonclinicalphysicians.com/freeguide. Get a list of 70 nontraditional jobs at nonclinicalphysicians.com/70jobs. =============== Dr. Michelle Mudge-Riley is a physician career coach, consultant, entrepreneur, and leader. She's also an expert in Global Strategy Development, Clinical Research, and Project Management in the Biopharma Industry. She is also schooled in physician career transition, partly because her career has continued to evolve extensively over the past 20 years since completing her clinical education. She has been a guest on the PNC podcast several times, last appearing in 2021. She worked part-time in the biopharma industry for several years, then she decided almost 5 years ago to pursue a full-time position in the industry. She now serves as Medical Director in the Medical Affairs Division of an international biopharmaceutical company focused on finding treatments for rare diseases. During our discussion, Michelle explained why she loves working in the BioPharma Industry. Then she shares tips for finding your first Industry job, and mistakes to avoid while engaged in your search.  You will find all of the links mentioned in the episode at nonclinicalphysicians.com/priceless-advice-from-an-expert/

Learn the business and management skills you need by enrolling in the University of Tennessee Physician Executive MBA program at nonclinicalphysicians.com/physicianmba. Get the FREE GUIDE to 10 Nonclinical Careers at nonclinicalphysicians.com/freeguide. Get a list of 70 nontraditional jobs at nonclinicalphysicians.com/70jobs. =============== Dr. Lara Hochman previously appeared on the show in 2022. She is returning to the show now to update us on her business as the Medical Matchmaker between physicians and medical practices, and to share her advice about finding a new practice. Since her previous visit, she continues to practice medicine, while helping make these connections. During her matchmaking process, she vets the physicians and the practices she is referring them to. As a result, she has learned much about what to look for on both sides of the process. She recently created The Stress-Free Physician Career Guide, a 5-step FREE resource for physicians. It is designed to help doctors find a physician-friendly private practice where they can focus on patient care without burnout or moral injury. During our discussion, Lara provided us with her encouragement and advice for physicians who want to find the perfect practice, whether they wish to remain an employee or become a practice partner. You will find all of the links mentioned in the episode at https://nonclinicalphysicians.com/seeking-a-new-practice/

Learn the business and management skills you need by enrolling in the University of Tennessee Physician Executive MBA program at nonclinicalphysicians.com/physicianmba. Get the FREE GUIDE to 10 Nonclinical Careers at nonclinicalphysicians.com/freeguide. Get a list of 70 nontraditional jobs at nonclinicalphysicians.com/70jobs. =============== Today I present Part 2 of the classic interview from 2019. In this show, Dr. Andrew Wilner, author of The Locum Life, describes why he loves medical writing and locum tenens as career options. In Part 1 last week, we learned how he became a neurologist and epileptologist who spent years as a full-time medical writer. Now he is Associate Professor of Neurology at the University of Tennessee Health Science Center where he provides direct patient care and teaches neurology residents on the inpatient and outpatient services. He also hosts a podcast called The Art of Medicine. And he has written a book called The Locum Life: A Physicians Guide to Locum Tenens, the definitive resource on this topic. In Part 2 we'll get much more into locum tenens work, and how he took what he learned to write The Locum Life. With that as an introduction, we will pick up where we left off with Andrew getting back into clinical medicine after a ten-year hiatus. You will find all of the links mentioned in the episode at https://nonclinicalphysicians.com/medical-writing-to-the-locum-life/

Learn the business and management skills you need by enrolling in the University of Tennessee Physician Executive MBA program at nonclinicalphysicians.com/physicianmba. Get the FREE GUIDE to 10 Nonclinical Careers at nonclinicalphysicians.com/freeguide. Get a list of 70 nontraditional jobs at nonclinicalphysicians.com/70jobs. =============== Today I present another classic interview, this time from 2019. In this show, Dr. Andrew Wilner, author of The Locum Life, describes why he loves medical writing and locum tenens as career options. In Part 1, Andrew recalls how much he loved writing, and how he felt compelled to get back into writing after completing his initial medical training. Andrew describes his journey from internal medicine in the U.S., to neurology training in Canada, and from clinical medicine to full-time medical writer. We also hear about his very early locums position working in an emergency room. During our conversation, he described the exact approach that enabled him to write for multiple medical publications, while remaining current in his specialty of Neurology. In Part 2 we'll get much more into locum tenens work, and how he took what he learned to create his recently released book. You will find all of the links mentioned in the episode at https://nonclinicalphysicians.com/blend-medical-writing-and-the-locum-life/

Learn the business and management skills you need by enrolling in the University of Tennessee Physician Executive MBA program at nonclinicalphysicians.com/physicianmba. Get the FREE GUIDE to 10 Nonclinical Careers at nonclinicalphysicians.com/freeguide. Get a list of 70 nontraditional jobs at nonclinicalphysicians.com/70jobs. =============== Dr. Phil Boucher completed medical school and pediatric residency at the University of Nebraska Medical Center. He has been in private practice since 2014. He was first featured on the PNC Podcast in December of 2020. He is known for integrating cutting-edge technologies in medical offices, whether to communicate better with patients, improve productivity, or market the practice. In today's interview, Dr Phil Boucher returns to the podcast to address two updates. First, he describes how he decided to open his own Direct Primary Care Practice in 2022. He explains that it takes more planning and managing than working as an employee in a large group. But there are many benefits, which he describes during our conversation. We spend the remaining time discussing his new side business. It grew out of a desire to address 2 problems facing many small medical practices: filling schedule openings due to cancellations without using up staff to call patients on a waiting list (OpenSpot at findopenspot.com), and helping new practices generate more leads during the early years by automating new patient engagement (Practice Leads at getpracticeleads.com). Phil describes the process he went through to develop both tools. And he explains how he was able to generate seed money by joining Founder University and applying to other start-up accelerators. To get a glimpse of how Phil's practice works, check out his practice website at FrontierPediatric.Care.  You will find all of the links mentioned in the episode at https://nonclinicalphysicians.com/private-practice-of-the-future/

Learn the business and management skills you need by enrolling in the University of Tennessee Physician Executive MBA program at nonclinicalphysicians.com/physicianmba. Get the FREE GUIDE to 10 Nonclinical Careers at nonclinicalphysicians.com/freeguide. Get a list of 70 nontraditional jobs at nonclinicalphysicians.com/70jobs. =============== Today I present another classic interview from 2020. In this show, Dr. Emily Woolcock describes why she loves being an Independent Medical Examiner. Dr. Woolcock is an internationally recognized speaker, best-selling author, mentor, and consultant. She is board-certified by the American Board of Orthopedic Surgery and the American Board of Independent Medical Examiners. And she is among the country's most well-known and respected orthopedic surgeons. In 2016 she established the IME Academy where she teaches students to perform defensible, literature-based independent medical examinations (or IMEs). Emily is passionate about helping other physicians break free from the devastating work/life balance issues she experienced early in her career. In today's interview, you will hear why this career option is so attractive to many physicians. As an IME, you can apply your medical knowledge and experience. The income is very good. However, the stress level is low and the risk of finding yourself in a medical liability lawsuit is negligible. You will find all of the links mentioned in the episode at https://nonclinicalphysicians.com/how-to-become-an-ime/

Learn the business and management skills you need by enrolling in the University of Tennessee Physician Executive MBA program at nonclinicalphysicians.com/physicianmba. Get the FREE GUIDE to 10 Nonclinical Careers at nonclinicalphysicians.com/freeguide. Get a list of 70 nontraditional jobs at nonclinicalphysicians.com/70jobs. =============== One of the first interviews devoted to the pharma industry featured Dr. Laura McKain in September 2021. Dr. McKain received her medical degree from Georgetown University in Washington, DC, and completed her training in obstetrics and gynecology at Virginia Commonwealth University in Richmond, Virginia. She was in private practice for over twelve years where her clinical interests included wellwomen care, contraception, HPV, menopause management, as well as general and high-risk obstetrics. In 2008 she transitioned her career to the pharmaceutical industry where she was involved in clinical development projects encompassing a broad range of therapeutic areas. She was involved in bringing two new therapeutics to market. She recently retired from full-time work and is now focused on helping other physicians find new nonclinical careers. She is a career coach and resumé expert at mckainconsulting.com. Laura is the founder of the Physician Nonclinical Career Hunters Facebook Group. With almost 30,000 members, it is the premier group where physicians connect with other physicians, share advice, find job openings, and obtain valuable advice and mentorship about nonclinical careers. In today's interview, Laura and I will be talking about strategies for finding a pharma job in the area of Clinical Development. You will find all of the links mentioned in the episode at https://nonclinicalphysicians.com/land-a-pharma-clinical-development-job/

Learn the business and management skills you need by enrolling in the University of Tennessee Physician Executive MBA program at nonclinicalphysicians.com/physicianmba. Get the FREE GUIDE to 10 Nonclinical Careers at nonclinicalphysicians.com/freeguide. Get a list of 70 nontraditional jobs at nonclinicalphysicians.com/70jobs. =============== John Jurica completed his medical degree at the University of Illinois at Champaign-Urbana, and his Family Medicine Residency at the University of Illinois at Rockford. While in practice he completed a Master's Degree in Public Health at the Medical College of Wisconsin. He began doing side jobs while in practice as a hospital utilization management physician advisor and a medical director for a family planning clinic and an occupational medicine clinic. He worked as the VP for Medical Affairs and then full-time as the Chief Medical Officer for a 300-bed independent nonprofit hospital outside of Chicago Illinois, leaving clinical medicine completely for 4 years. He now works part-time as a co-owner and Medical Director for an urgent care network. In 2017, he began producing a weekly podcast called Physician Nonclinical Careers with John Jurica, where he presents interviews and solo episodes addressing physician burnout and moral injury, unconventional jobs and careers for physicians, and related topics. He also runs mastermind groups, annual live online summits, and an online platform the Nonclinical Career Academy and MemberClub. In today's show, John describes in detail what the Academy is, how it has evolved over the years, and what it can do for clinicians who want to leverage their training and experience in nontraditional ways. He explains how the MemberClub component of the NCA provides the most value for those who wish to learn as much as possible about career transition in a convenient, safe, and affordable environment.  You will find all of the links mentioned in the episode at https://nonclinicalphysicians.com/nonclinical-career-academy/