Podcasts about EHR

Attachment repair is a skill, not just insight. Swedish clinical psychologist and SecureBase Lab founder Martin Jonsson explores how attachment healing extends beyond individual therapy and into relationships and community. Martin shares how peer support, shared experiences, and practical secure-relating skills can create opportunities for attachment repair, while exploring the roles of spirituality, sexuality, and belonging in building deeper, more secure connections. “Community is about horizontal empathy, not hierarchy.” – Martin Jonsson Attachment Isn't Solo Work: Healing Through Community with Martin Jonsson (310) 02:21 Spirituality and its role in therapy 09:21 Community as a space for attachment repair 11:23 Difference between groups and communities 14:54 Horizontal empathy and attachment in community 19:56 The integration of attachment theory in recovery models 22:26 Peer support and corrective emotional experiences 25:52 Language of attachment and shared understanding 28:27 Accessibility and inclusivity in attachment work 30:44 Sexuality and attachment patterns 34:09 Impact of attachment on intimacy and boundaries 40:44 Working with unconscious shadow aspects in community 45:16 The role of mentalization and affect regulation 49:38 Resources and upcoming workshops About our Guest – Martin Jonsson  Martin Jonsson is a licensed clinical psychologist, educator, and founder of Secure Base Lab, an attachment-informed therapeutic community integrating attachment science, experiential psychotherapy, and relational approaches to support psychological growth and relational wellbeing. For more than twenty years, Martin has worked at the intersection of psychotherapy, education, and transformational learning. Alongside his clinical practice, he has facilitated groups, trained professionals, and designed experiential learning programs across healthcare, education, social services, and personal growth. His academic training includes degrees in Clinical Psychology and Sexology, complemented by extensive postgraduate training in attachment-based therapies, including experiential dynamic therapies, as well as supervision training. His work is further informed by contemporary attachment research, affective neuroscience, interpersonal neurobiology, and experiential psychotherapy. Today, Martin combines clinical practice, teaching, writing, and facilitation with the ongoing development of Secure Base Lab. His work is dedicated to bridging rigorous psychological science with the timeless human need for belonging, helping people move beyond understanding themselves toward experiencing—and creating—the kinds of relationships in which lasting change becomes possible. Click Here to see Martin’s full bio.  Resources for Attachment Isn't Solo Work: Healing Through Community with Martin Jonsson (310) The Secure Base Lab – Website, resources, workshops and more @TheSecureBaseLab – Official Instagram page Please support our sponsors – they keep our podcast free and accessible to all!  SimplePractice is an all-in-one EHR that is HIPPA compliant, HITRUST certified and built specifically for therapists. If you are ready to simplify the business side of your practice, now is a great time to try SimplePractice. Start with a 7-day free trial, then get 50% off your first three months. Just go to SimplePractice.com to claim the offer. Beyond Attachment Styles – Deepening Security in Yourself and Fostering More Secure Relationships Course available NOW!  LIVE Q&A SEPTEMBER 25TH! Everyone’s heard of attachment styles – but you likely don’t know how much the popular press gets wrong and what the science actually says about how to improve your relationships long term (including how we relate to ourselves).  This course is for anyone wanting to more deeply understand attachment (styles vs patterns), unconscious defense activation patterns, implicit scripts… and most importantly, what to do once you do get activated!  Online, Self-Paced, Asynchronous Learning with Quarterly Live Q&A’s! Earn 6 Continuing Education Credits – Available at Checkout. As a listener of this podcast, use code BAS15 for a limited-time discount. Or read Marriott & Kelley’s critically-acclaimed book, Secure Relating: Holding Your Own in an Insecure World (HarperCollins,2023) for the most in-depth experience of learning about Secure Relating. Therapists love it, but it’s accessible to everyone.  If you aren’t interested in the background science, just start at Part 2 and we will be talking directly to you – it’s fun! You are invited!  OK for those of you who refer others to the pod, use it professionally or consider yourself nerdy and just love this stuff, hello, you are our people! Join our exclusive community to get exclusive bonus content, early access to training opportunities, and an ad-free, private podcast feed. It’s this warm community that allows us to donate half of all corportate profits to mental health access for marginalized peoples.  Sign up for our premium Neuronerd plan!! Click here!! 

A resident read a student's personal statement and asked why she didn't just use ChatGPT. The comment landed like a wound. In this episode, certified coach and professor Kathleen Muldoon returns to unpack what a residency personal statement is actually for, and why an algorithm can't do it for you. This episode is based on her article "Why ChatGPT can't write your residency personal statement," published on KevinMD. You will hear why the product was never the essay but the self-knowledge that comes from writing it, how AI tends to average out the distinctive voice and sharp edges that make an applicant feel human, and where a tool like ChatGPT can still help without taking over the whole process. She also weighs whether AI detection tools unfairly flag applicants whose first language isn't English. Hear why she says the real question was never whether AI wrote it, but whether the person still comes through. This episode is brought to you by ModMed. Welcome to your new AI-Powered Practice from ModMed. We're transforming specialty care by embedding AI Assistants across your entire workflow. Our all-in-one platform of EHR, patient engagement, practice management, and RCM helps reduce repetitive work while keeping you firmly in control. Trained on de-identified data from nearly a billion patient encounters, this isn't just smarter software. It's a new way of working for specialty medicine, more efficient and more connected to the patient experience. Start building your AI-Powered Practice at modmed.com. VISIT SPONSOR → https://www.modmed.com/ SUBSCRIBE TO THE PODCAST → https://www.kevinmd.com/podcast

What if your clinic is profitable, your schedule is full—and you're still financially handcuffed to patient care? In this episode, Dr. Lauryn sits down with Dr. Daniel Herzberg to unpack why high income alone doesn't create freedom, and why doctors need a strategy that extends beyond simply earning more, saving more, or waiting until the practice hits the next revenue milestone.Together, they explore the shift from active income to capital that works for you, why doctors often delay investing, how lifestyle creep and risk aversion can stall wealth building, and the importance of coordinating taxes, cash flow, investing, risk management, and business operations. Daniel also breaks down hard money lending, private investments, and the family office approach—giving practice owners a framework for building wealth, optionality, and a future where working is a choice rather than an obligation.Key TakeawaysHigh income does not automatically create financial freedom. If your income still depends on how many patients you personally see, you're continuing to trade time for money regardless of how successful your practice becomes.Doing nothing with your money is still an investment decision. Risk aversion can protect doctors from bad opportunities, but years of financial inaction can also mean losing valuable time, compound growth, and opportunities to build income outside the clinic.Stop treating wealth building like a collection of disconnected financial products. Taxes, cash flow, investments, business operations, risk management, and long-term goals should work together as one coordinated wealth strategy.Your capital can become your best employee. Building assets and passive income allows your money to work independently of your clinical hours, ultimately giving you the freedom to practice because you want to—not because you financially have to.About the GuestDr. Daniel Herzberg is a physician freedom coach, founder of the Intelligent Investor Forum, and creator of the Physician Freedom Plan, a strategic framework designed to help physicians and high-income professionals reduce financial stress, build income beyond their careers, and create greater freedom over their time and future. With more than 33 years of experience and over 9,000 clients served, Daniel helps clients identify the gap between where they are financially and where they want to be, then coordinate strategies around investing, taxes, cash flow, risk management, business operations, and wealth building to help close that gap.Find all the resources the Intelligent Investor Forum has to offer!Follow Dr. Daniel: LinkedInResources:Find all things Dr. Lauryn B including ways to work with herFollow Dr. Lauryn: Instagram | Facebook | LinkedInFollow She Slays on YouTubeMentioned in this episode:INSiGHT CLAThis episode is brought to you by the INSiGHT scanning system from CLA, the tool that helps chiropractors show patients objective neurological data so the value of care becomes clear, fueling conversion, retention, and growth. She Slays listeners get preferred pricing, affordable financing, and a free Getting Into Scanning guide.CLA (Current)Holistic Marketing HubThis episode is sponsored by Holistic Marketing Hub. Created by marketing strategist Molly Cahill, it's a proven Instagram system with a 500+ caption content library and a step-by-step curriculum that's helped 400+ chiropractors, acupuncturists, and other health pros fill their practices with right-fit patients. Enroll Now!Holistic Marketing HubClinic MindClinic Mind is the all-in-one EHR and practice management platform built for chiropractors — billing, documentation, scheduling, and patient follow-up in one place, whether you run a cash practice, take insurance, or are scaling to multiple locations. She Slays the Day listeners get an exclusive offer.Clinic Mind

One month shy of five years. That is how long Big Trees MD ran on the electronic health record it opened with, and this month, that ended. Not because Dr. Maryal Concepcion went looking for something shinier, but because the terms under which her patients' data lived changed, and she could not accept them.In this solo episode, Dr. Concepcion documents the switch in real time from her rural Direct Primary Care practice in Arnold, California, which she owns with her husband, Dr. Jeremiah Fillo, and runs with a fully virtual team. No vendor names, on purpose. The names change. The framework does not.Built from The Toolkit's Battle of the EHRs issue, where over 200 DPC EHR users shared what they use and why, this episode walks through how to choose an electronic health record that grows with your practice instead of boxing you in:Why an EHR is the memory of your practice, and why the DPC version of this decision is nothing like the fee-for-service versionThe 10 categories to score every EHR on, from membership billing and charting speed to support quality and scalabilityThe 5 questions to ask before you switch, starting with "what problem am I really trying to solve?"How to run a demo on your terms: build a fake patient, count clicks out loud, ask about migration before features, and ask the question nobody asks, which is "how do I leave you?"Why you should research who owns the EHR company, especially as private equity and venture capital creep into Direct Primary CareRunning the real math: subscription, add-ons, switching costs, and exit costs over a three year horizon, plus what an hour of your life is actually worthThe hidden costs no spreadsheet captures: patient trust, the emotional weight of change, and the 90 day post-switch reality checkThings have changed since the Summer 2025 issue published, and the second Battle of the EHRs opens for voting in Q1. The only way to vote is through the My DPC Story newsletter, so sign up at mydpcstory.com.FREE from The Toolkit at mydpcstory.com:How to Interview Electronic Health Records comparison worksheetPatient handout on choosing healthcare vs. health insurance (perfect for open enrollment season)The Lean Startup Business PlanThe First Year RoadmapEvery issue of The Toolkit, including the new Battle of the Support StackFollow the full switch in real time: demos, migration answers, the four-bucket spreadsheet, and the second guesses, all inside the My DPC Story Patreon community. Leave a voice message with your question, challenge, or win at mydpcstory.com/contact and you might hear it on a future episode.If this episode helped you, a five star review on Apple Podcasts helps other physicians find these stories when they need them most.Support the showGET your FREE MONTHLY BUSINESS TOOL DOWNLOADBecome A My DPC Story PATREON MEMBER! SPONSOR THE PODMy DPC Story VOICEMAIL! DPC SWAG!FACEBOOK * INSTAGRAM * LinkedIn * TWITTER * TIKTOK * YouTube

Kourtney Moore is a multi-passionate entrepreneur, mother of four, advocate, and community builder working at the intersection of technology, healthcare, and human connection. She is the co-founder and CEO of the Missing Piece App, a resource directory and EHR platform helping families with children on the autism spectrum find diagnosis, treatment, and community resources. Kourtney is also a doctoral engineering student specializing in AI and machine learning and hosts the Warrior Her podcast. Her entrepreneurial journey has taken her from working multiple jobs and learning sales in an unexpected environment to building businesses, working in tech sales, and ultimately creating a mission-driven technology company. On this episode we talk about: How Kourtney's first experience with sales and entrepreneurship came from working as a shot girl and learning how to sell, market, and understand profit Why experimenting with different jobs and career paths can help you discover your strengths and build a unique skill stack What Kourtney learned from her failed $30,000 CrossFit gym and how those mistakes shaped her approach to business and partnerships How her experiences in healthcare, ABA, sales, and technology eventually led to the creation of the Missing Peace App Why building a mission-driven business makes it easier to navigate challenges, rejection, and the uncertainty of entrepreneurship Top 3 Takeaways You don't have to have your entire career figured out. Trying different jobs, industries, and experiences can help you identify the skills and interests you want to carry forward. Build a skill stack from your experiences. Kourtney's background in sales, marketing, staffing, leadership, healthcare, and technology all eventually became valuable pieces of her entrepreneurial journey. Find something you genuinely care about. Kourtney learned that making money isn't enough to keep her committed to a business. When the mission is personal, she's much more willing to push through the inevitable challenges of entrepreneurship. Notable Quotes "I really never thought of it because I wasn't really exposed to anybody that was an entrepreneur." "I fully immerse myself and then when I realize this is not for me, it's like let's pivot to the next thing." "It doesn't matter how much money is possibly gonna be made if I don't actually care about it." Connect with Kourtney Moore: LinkedIn: Kourtney Moore Other: The Missing Piece App A Word from Our Sponsors: - The most successful business owners don't do it all themselves — they delegate. Upwork lets you build a team of highly skilled specialists for every function your business needs, so you can focus on what you do best and let experts handle the rest. Visit Upwork.com right now and post your job for free! - Go to Leesa.com for 30% OFF select mattresses (through September 13, 2026) PLUS get an extra $50 off with promo code TMM, exclusive for my listeners Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Food as Medicine: Why Medical Nutrition Therapy and Medically Tailored Meals Belong in Modern Healthcare: Registered dietitian nutritionist Leyla Muedin argues that food should be treated with the same rigor as medication through medical nutrition therapy (MNT) and “diet prescriptions,” integrating nutrition into treatment plans rather than leaving it as optional advice. She cites evidence that medically tailored meals (MTMs) can improve outcomes and reduce costs, including a Health Affairs simulation estimating $23.7B in first-year net savings nationwide and a Nature Medicine analysis of a Massachusetts Medicaid demonstration (2020–2023) showing MTM recipients had 31% fewer hospitalizations, 20% fewer emergency visits, and $3,433 lower total healthcare costs, offsetting 98% of program costs. She discusses food insecurity, expanding Medicaid coverage via Section 1115 waivers, EHR integration, and how MTMs support adherence for conditions such as diabetes, cardiovascular disease, chronic kidney disease, depression, and IBS (including low FODMAP).

The Derm on RheumNow podcast is a review of recent citations and content curated for dermatologists – addressing Psoriasis, PsA, CLE, vasculitis, HS, CTD skin disorders. dermatology drugs, biologics, andJAK inhibitors - their use, efficacy and side effects. Features Dr. Jack Cush, Editor at RheumNow.com. Show Notes: Latest #s: EHR estimates from 6 large US medical systems, estimated prevalence of autoimmune Dz (AID) to be 15 million (4.6% US population); 34% have 2+ AID. Women have 2x risk. Sex ratio of 1.7:1 F:M. https://buff.ly/fYgRfZ0 POETYK PsA-1: Deucravacitinib in Biologic-Naïve PsA POETYK PsA-1 trial tested the disease modifying efficacy of deucravacitinib, a tyrosine kinase 2 (TYK2) inhibitor, in PsA patients and was shown to be superior vs to placebo for clinical responses, patient-reported outcomes, https://t.co/VjwpCVKPz0 MoonLake announced positive phase 3 data from its IZAR-1 RCT using its dual A/F IL-17 inhibitor sonelokimab, showing significant responses at week 16: 66% ACR20, 42% ACR50, 41% minimal disease activity (MDA), & 61% PASI90 at week 16. a 2nd IZAR-2 PsA RCT is in progress https://t.co/eX0cxekRKG British Dermatology Biologics registry (BADBIR) 18976 #PSO pts had incidence serious infxns (SIE) 28 SEI/1000 Pt-Yrs; higher if they had prior infxn (79/1000 PYs). SIE signif lower w/ RIZankizumab (HR 0.74-.80) vs BROAD, ETN, other standards Rxs. SIE deaths rare (1.81/1000 PYs) https://t.co/GTr3DLCVXs 39 studies compared Juvenile systemic sclerosis (jSSc) & adult SSc. 935 jSSc vs 15,451 aSSc pts; jSSc had more diffuse cutaneous dz (70% vs 41%), more overlap myositis (33% vs. 5%), arthritis (33% vs 18%), digital ulcers (51% vs 20%), less renal crisis (0% vs 6%) & lower mortality jSSc (7.7% vs. 20.4%) https://t.co/vflarmwSyv Italian SPRING cohort of #SSc pts found only 5.3% (of 1689 pts) without the typical scleroderma pattern on nailfold change by NVC. They had milder dz, with less vascular dz (pitting scars 33 vs 48%), telangiectasias (52 vs 74%), calcinosis 3.4 vs 12%) & higher DLCOs at 12, 24, https://t.co/AoNAhVYfII Review of CAR-T 29 trials in systemic sclerosis (SSc): 27/29 target CD19 (other CD20, BCMA), 20/29 autologous. Only 2 RCTs; 1 w/ RTX comparator. Most included CREST. Schetts largest series had 6 dcSSc w/ skin/lung improvements. Need fewer & larger multicenter RCTs https://t.co/Me28HbaFhR SLE & Dermatomyositis rashes maybe classically red or violaceous in Whites,but different in people of color, where erythema often appears brown/violaceous, Gottron papules can be mistaken for "dry skin." This delays dx, especially in anti-MDA5+ RP-ILD, where rash may be the https://t.co/Savx5IOTcG Yesterday the EMA approved upadacitinib (Rinvoq) for the Treatment of Adults and Adolescents with Non-Segmental Vitiligo - the 1st therapy approved for the most common form of vitiligo. Based on positive results from the Phase 3 Viti-Up trials https://t.co/MMv5LjZclQ 3 Rx are FDA approved for hidradenitis supprativa (secukinumab, adalimumab, bimekizumab). New JAK1i Povorcitinib in STOP-HS1 and STOP-HS2 ph 3 PCTs (608/619 pts). Povo showed HiSCR50 ~42% vs PBO 29% @wk12. AE: acne, pharyngitis https://t.co/n3FJUOjNuo

An eye surgeon who used to see forty patients a day now sees one to three in a morning, and he has no staff. Oren Fass, a board-certified ophthalmologist and cataract surgeon, has been an employed physician, a practice owner, and an owner who sold to private equity, and he now runs a solo micro practice. This episode is based on his article "The hidden variable in the physician burnout debate," published on KevinMD. You will hear how his agents read incoming faxes, start the scheduling, and apply his billing rules, and why he says this was not feasible three years ago. He is direct about why doctors feel stuck, from the six to twelve month timelines on licenses and insurance panels to the second shift of charting that starts at six in the evening. He also argues that ownership and creativity are the two bets worth making now, and that the salaried job may be the riskier one. You will hear where he thinks the model fits, and where it does not. This episode is brought to you by ModMed. Welcome to your new AI-Powered Practice from ModMed. We're transforming specialty care by embedding AI Assistants across your entire workflow. Our all-in-one platform of EHR, patient engagement, practice management, and RCM helps reduce repetitive work while keeping you firmly in control. Trained on de-identified data from nearly a billion patient encounters, this isn't just smarter software. It's a new way of working for specialty medicine, more efficient and more connected to the patient experience. Start building your AI-Powered Practice at modmed.com. VISIT SPONSOR → https://www.modmed.com/ SUBSCRIBE TO THE PODCAST → https://www.kevinmd.com/podcast

In fast-growing companies and competitive tech hubs, culture can quietly become the deciding factor between loyal, engaged teams and constant turnover. Today's guest, Heather Page, Culture and Experience Manager at AdvancedMD, shares how her journey from hand-coding websites in the early days of the internet to building brand and people-first initiatives prepared her to design an environment where nearly 700 team members feel connected, valued, and excited to show up on Monday. In this episode of Marketer of the Day, Heather reveals how her background in UX and digital experience naturally evolved into human experience and internal culture. She explains why the same questions you ask when designing a great product “Does this feel intuitive? Does it create connections? Does it reflect who we are?” should guide how you design your company culture. Instead of treating culture as perks and free sodas, Heather focuses on what people are really thinking and feeling on Sunday night: are they dreading Monday, or excited to plug back in? Heather walks us through her journey from web designer to culture leader, including how she volunteered for culture committees, paid attention to cross-functional teams, and ultimately had a role created specifically for her at AdvancedMD. She shares practical examples of how she and her team listen to employees through twice-yearly anonymous surveys and, crucially, act on the data instead of letting it collect dust. For Heather, people-first isn't a slogan, it's a pillar that drives decisions, programs, and daily behavior. We also dive into AdvancedMD's medical office software and how it's helping doctors reclaim their time, reduce burnout, and reconnect with the human side of healthcare. Heather explains how AI-enabled digital charting, automation, and integrated EHR/practice management tools free physicians from after-hours note-taking and clunky legacy systems. With strong onboarding and hands-on professional services, AdvancedMD doesn't just sell software; they guide practices through the change so the whole team feels supported, not overwhelmed. https://youtu.be/jzUqj0sMaTs?si=wfnr5SshZmJGn-11 Throughout the conversation, Heather emphasizes that rapport, curiosity, and genuine human connection are timeless superpowers. She encourages employees at every level to stop waiting for permission: sit with support, learn how sales thinks, understand your colleagues' worlds, and build real relationships. Promotions, opportunities, and innovation often follow the people who are genuinely interested in others, not just in climbing the ladder. If you want to: Build a culture where people feel seen, valued, and eager to stay. Reduce job-hopping by creating a true culture fit instead of surface-level perks. Use AI and better systems to give professionals (especially doctors) their time and focus back. Lead with empathy, listening, and follow-through in a way that never goes out of style; then this episode with Heather Page will give you a fresh, people-first lens on both culture and customer experience. Quotes: “Culture, to me, is a lot like a well-designed product: it's intentional, it evolves, and it's built for the people using it every day.” “If you take care of your people inside your company, they will take care of people outside your company, and that's a win-win.” “Each of us brings our own culture to the table every day, and sometimes those cultures mesh, and sometimes it's oil and vinegar.” Contact Details: Stop Letting Admin Work Slow Your Practice Down: See AdvancedMD In Action Today Connect With Heather Page On LinkedIn Follow Heather Page On Facebook Listen To The AdvancedMD Podcast On Apple Podcasts

Is your practice website actually helping patients choose you, or is it just a digital brochure listing your services? In this episode, Dr. Lauryn sits down with branding strategist Alexa Torres to unpack what makes a healthcare brand connect, convert, and stand out in 2026. They explore why great marketing starts with making patients feel seen, not simply telling them how qualified you are.Alexa breaks down emotional selling, identifying your primary audience, creating a website that functions like a pre sales conversation, and designing for both quick decision makers and analytical buyers. They also dive into using AI to develop your brand voice, write better content, build websites, and even create an AI twin that helps you show up consistently without constantly being on camera.Key TakeawaysPatients buy outcomes, not services. Effective healthcare marketing speaks to the emotional problem behind what a patient is experiencing so they immediately recognize that your practice understands them.Your website should operate like a sales conversation. Strategic messaging, clear positioning, intentional calls to action, and a series of small “yeses” can pre sell prospective patients before they ever contact your practice.Your personal brand matters, but your patient should remain the focus. Establish your expertise and personality without making the homepage a résumé about your education, credentials, and accomplishments.AI works best when you give it your ideas instead of asking it to invent them. Detailed prompting, voice training, AI assisted website building, and tools like AI twins can make marketing faster while still preserving the perspective that makes your brand unique.Guest BioAlexa Torres is a creative director and branding strategist who has built more than 200 brands and websites since beginning her career in 2009. After shifting her focus exclusively to healthcare in 2016, Alexa and her team have helped more than 100 health entrepreneurs transform their ideas into magnetic brands that attract ideal patients, communicate their value clearly, and inspire action. Through her branding agency, Care Identity, and educational platform, The Clinician's Atelier, she helps healthcare entrepreneurs strengthen their branding, websites, messaging, and marketing while leveraging emerging AI tools to work more efficiently.For ways to work with Alexa, visit The Kliˈnishen's AtelierFollow Alexa on InstagramResources:Find all things Dr. Lauryn B including ways to work with herFollow Dr. Lauryn: Instagram | Facebook | LinkedInFollow She Slays on YouTubeMentioned in this episode:INSiGHT CLAThis episode is brought to you by the INSiGHT scanning system from CLA, the tool that helps chiropractors show patients objective neurological data so the value of care becomes clear, fueling conversion, retention, and growth. She Slays listeners get preferred pricing, affordable financing, and a free Getting Into Scanning guide.CLA (Current)Holistic Marketing HubThis episode is sponsored by Holistic Marketing Hub. Created by marketing strategist Molly Cahill, it's a proven Instagram system with a 500+ caption content library and a step-by-step curriculum that's helped 400+ chiropractors, acupuncturists, and other health pros fill their practices with right-fit patients. Enroll Now!Holistic Marketing HubClinic MindClinic Mind is the all-in-one EHR and practice management platform built for chiropractors — billing, documentation, scheduling, and patient follow-up in one place, whether you run a cash practice, take insurance, or are scaling to multiple locations. She Slays the Day listeners get an exclusive offer.Clinic Mind

What can DBT teach us about turning invalidation into joy? Dr. Kiki Fehling and Dr. Ann Kelley explore how chronic invalidation can shape emotional regulation, identity, and self-worth, particularly for queer and trans individuals. Through the lens of DBT and minority stress, Kiki shares how understanding these experiences can help challenge internalized shame, build resilience, and move beyond simply healing – and make space for authenticity, connection, and queer joy. “Internalized shame can be healed through community.” – Dr. Kiki Fehling Time Stamps for DBT, Chronic Invalidation & Finding Queer Joy with Dr. Kiki Fehling (309) 00:27 Understanding chronic invalidation in parenting and garegiving 02:05 How invalidations lead to emotional dysregulation 04:37 Adult consequences of childhood invalidations 07:00 Invalidation beyond parenting: Queer identity and society 07:59 Minority stress and queer invalidations 14:51 Using DBT to cultivate joy and self-acceptance 23:06 Practical tools: Books and resources for self-directed DBT About our Guest – Dr. Kiki Fehling Dr. Kiki Fehling (they/she) is a licensed psychologist, author, speaker, and DBT-Linehan-Board-certified expert in Dialectical Behavior Therapy (DBT). Passionate about making evidence-based mental health information more accessible, Kiki focuses on advocacy and public education around suicide prevention, LGBTQIA+ mental health, borderline personality disorder, and the intersection between mental health and heart health. She is the author of The LGBTQ+ Mental Health Workbook, Self-Directed DBT Skills, and DBT Cards for Coping Skills. Kiki also writes the Substack newsletter How To Queer Joy, volunteers for nonprofits Now Matters Now and WomenHeart, and shares DBT skills and mental health resources across social media @dbtkiki.    Resources for DBT, Chronic Invalidation & Finding Queer Joy with Dr. Kiki Fehling (309) The LGBTQ+ Mental Health Workbook – Find Emotional Resilience, Self-Love, and Queer Joy with Dialectical Behavior Therapy Self-Directed DBT Skills – 3-Month DBT Workbook Dr. Kiki Fehling’s website – Additional resources and information @DBTKiKi – Official Instagram page @DBTKIKI – Official Tiktok page DBTKIKI – Official Youtube channel How To Queer Joy – Official Substack Please support our sponsors – they keep our podcast free and accessible to all!  SimplePractice is an all-in-one EHR that is HIPPA compliant, HITRUST certified and built specifically for therapists. If you are ready to simplify the business side of your practice, now is a great time to try SimplePractice. Start with a 7-day free trial, then get 50% off your first three months. Just go to SimplePractice.com to claim the offer. Beyond Attachment Styles – Deepening Security in Yourself and Fostering More Secure Relationships Course available NOW!   Everyone’s heard of attachment styles – but you likely don’t know how much the popular press gets wrong and what the science actually says about how to improve your relationships long term (including how we relate to ourselves).  This course is for anyone wanting to more deeply understand attachment (styles vs patterns), unconscious defense activation patterns, implicit scripts… and most importantly, what to do once you do get activated!  Online, Self-Paced, Asynchronous Learning with Quarterly Live Q&A’s! Earn 6 Continuing Education Credits – Available at Checkout. As a listener of this podcast, use code BAS15 for a limited-time discount. Or read Marriott & Kelley’s critically-acclaimed book, Secure Relating: Holding Your Own in an Insecure World (HarperCollins,2023) for the most in-depth experience of learning about Secure Relating. Therapists love it, but it’s accessible to everyone.  If you aren’t interested in the background science, just start at Part 2 and we will be talking directly to you – it’s fun!   You are invited!  OK for those of you who refer others to the pod, use it professionally or consider yourself nerdy and just love this stuff, hello, you are our people! Join our exclusive community to get exclusive bonus content, early access to training opportunities, and an ad-free, private podcast feed. It’s this warm community that allows us to donate half of all corportate profits to mental health access for marginalized peoples.  Sign up for our premium Neuronerd plan!! Click here!! 

In 2024, Mass General Brigham, the largest health system in Massachusetts, piloted an AI-powered, ambient note-taking and transcription program among a subset of clinicians to address increasing rates of staff burnout and turnover --  largely driven by the administrative burden of clinical documentation in the electronic health records (EHR). Early results showed promising reductions in clinician burnout, intention to leave, and increased physician efficiency. But concerns about the technology, including the generation of inaccurate notes with errors or hallucinations made physicians resistant to learn and adopt it into their workflows. Harvard Business School Associate Professor Susanna Gallani and host Brian Kenny discuss the challenges leadership at the health care organization anticipated as they considered scaling the AI technology responsibly in the case: The AI Scribe: Enhancing Physician Presence and Curbing Burnout at Mass General Brigham

Do you actually know why you do what you do, or have you just gotten really good at describing what you do? Most personality assessments explain how you behave, but Dr. Gary Sanchez believes the deeper question is what fundamentally drives you. In this episode, Dr. Lauryn explores the WHY.os framework and discovers just how clearly knowing your WHY, HOW, and WHAT can explain your career, leadership style, relationships, and business decisions.Dr. Gary breaks down the nine WHYs, walks through Lauryn's personal operating system, and shows how this framework can transform everything from marketing to hiring. They discuss finding the right people for the right roles, why misalignment can look like burnout, how your WHY shapes your ideal clients, and why understanding your team's motivations could make hiring and leadership dramatically easier.Key TakeawaysStart with who, then what. Understanding the motivation behind how you operate can bring clarity to your career, leadership style, personal brand, and the work that actually gives you energy.Your WHY can sharpen your marketing. When you clearly articulate what you believe and why you do what you do, you can attract patients and clients who share those beliefs instead of competing primarily on price or services.Hiring is about alignment, not just qualifications. Mapping a team's WHY, HOW, and WHAT can help practice owners identify whether people are in roles that naturally fit how they think, work, and contribute.Different motivations belong in different seats. The traits that make someone exceptional at challenging the status quo, building trust, simplifying systems, solving problems, or contributing to others may make them perfect for one role and miserable in another.Guest BioDr. Gary Sanchez, also known as “Dr. WHY,” is the founder and CEO of the WHY Institute and creator of the WHY Discovery and WHY.os framework. A former dentist who practiced for 32 years, Dr. Gary turned his fascination with purpose and human motivation into a system designed to help individuals and teams understand the WHY, HOW, and WHAT behind the way they operate. Today, he is an international speaker, author, inventor, and thought leader whose work helps leaders, businesses, and individuals gain greater clarity around their strengths, relationships, careers, messaging, and purpose.She Slays listeners can get The Why Discovery for free (normally $47) by visiting this link.Follow Dr. Gary on InstagramLearn more about The Why Institute and all their resources and programsResources:Find all things Dr. Lauryn B including ways to work with herFollow Dr. Lauryn: Instagram | Facebook | LinkedInFollow She Slays on YouTubeMentioned in this episode:Clinic MindClinic Mind is the all-in-one EHR and practice management platform built for chiropractors — billing, documentation, scheduling, and patient follow-up in one place, whether you run a cash practice, take insurance, or are scaling to multiple locations. She Slays the Day listeners get an exclusive offer.Clinic MindINSiGHT CLAThis episode is brought to you by the INSiGHT scanning system from CLA, the tool that helps chiropractors show patients objective neurological data so the value of care becomes clear, fueling conversion, retention, and growth. She Slays listeners get preferred pricing, affordable financing, and a free Getting Into Scanning guide.CLA (Current)Holistic Marketing HubThis episode is sponsored by Holistic Marketing Hub. Created by marketing strategist Molly Cahill, it's a proven Instagram system with a 500+ caption content library and a step-by-step curriculum that's helped 400+ chiropractors, acupuncturists, and other health pros fill their practices with right-fit patients. Enroll Now!Holistic Marketing Hub

For many speech-language pathologists, occupational therapists, and myofunctional providers, billing and documentation feel like navigating an ever-shifting maze. Between selecting appropriate CPT codes, justifying medical necessity, and adhering to strict scope-of-practice guidelines, clinicians often struggle to ensure proper reimbursement while remaining compliant.In this episode, Hallie Bulkin breaks down the essential mechanics of billing for myofunctional therapy services. She addresses common points of confusion around core codes - such as CPT 92526 (treatment of swallowing dysfunction and/or oral function for feeding) and 92507 (speech/language treatment) - and offers practical strategies for documenting functional gains accurately.Hallie also previews upcoming CPT code updates slated for 2027, shedding light on how these structural changes will impact private pay practices, electronic health records (EHRs), and clinical workflows. Whether you are navigating insurance reimbursement or operating an out-of-network practice, this episode equips you with the clarity needed to code with confidence and integrity.Key Topics & TakeawaysDeconstructing CPT 92526 vs. 92507: Clarifying the distinct clinical applications for swallowing/feeding dysfunction versus speech and language treatment.The 2027 CPT Code Shift: Preparing your practice, EHR templates, and clinical documentation for upcoming coding structure changes.Scope of Practice & Provider Eligibility: Understanding state licensing, board regulations, and billing qualifications across different therapeutic disciplines.Defensible Documentation: Crafting objective, function-focused clinical notes that justify medical necessity and withstand insurance audits.Out-of-Network & Private Pay Strategies: Equipping cash-pay practices with accurate super/ superbill documentation to help patients seek reimbursement seamlessly.Soundbites"A CPT code isn't just a billing number - it is a translation of your clinical documentation and direct scope of practice.""When preparing for coding changes, proactive documentation systems protect both your practice and your patients.""Bill for what you treat, document what you see, and ensure every note clearly establishes functional necessity."Timestamps 00:00:00 - 3 Verification Steps Before Coding00:04:23 - Deep Dive: Myo & CPT Code 9252600:06:37 - Reporting 92526 & 92507 Together00:09:45 - Provider Scope & License Boundaries00:13:47 - Dental Hygienist (RDH) Reimbursement Reality00:15:53 - Strong vs. Weak Documentation Examples00:18:16 - Private Pay & Superbill Responsibilities00:19:42 - 2027 Deletion of 9250700:20:47 - Why 92507 Was Flagged by AMA/CMS00:26:26 - Private Practice Transition Strategy00:27:43 - Clinical Reasoning vs. Endless Exercises00:29:01 - Immediate Action PlanLinks & ResourcesFast Myo Screening Tool: Streamline your intake documentation and baseline evaluations at FastMyoScreening.com.WORTH A LISTEN: CONTINUE YOUR JOURNEYScreening vs. Assessment vs. Treatment: Why Every Clinician Needs to Know the Difference.How Root Cause Assessment Changes Feeding and Speech Outcomes.STAY CONNECTED

Welcome back! Today I'm joined again by Amy Abelar from Acupuncture Practice Systems for part two of her previous episode.If you want to build stronger referral relationships with other healthcare providers this episode is for you.Amy has spent 18 years growing a thriving multi-provider practice, and she shares practical strategies for creating referral partnerships that are genuine, mutually beneficial, and lead to long-term growth. And I think you'll appreciate that she approaches these relationships from a place of service.In this episode, we discuss:• Why you must track where every new patient is coming from• How to build referral relationships with OBGYNs, chiropractors, fertility clinics, and other healthcare providers• The biggest mistake practitioners make when networking, and what to do instead• Creative ways to get past the front desk and start meaningful conversations with busy medical officesThere are so many practical gems packed into this conversation with Amy. I hope it's helpful!Mentioned in This Episode (Show Notes): Acupuncture Practice SystemsYouTube: @AcupuncturePracticeSystemsInstagram: @AcupuncturePracticeSystemsAcu-Hub.com: Virtual Reception and Virtual Assistant Services for AcupuncturistsMarketing Breakthrough Audit with Michelle

When case information, vendor requirements, and compliance data live in separate systems, even a small gap can create major delays. In Episode 2 of "Operate in Harmony," Brendan Shaw from ReadySet and Jay McDonald from Green Security join us to explore how connected technology can bring greater clarity to the people, products, and processes supporting every surgical case. From linking EHR, ERP, scheduling, and vendor credentialing systems to reducing duplicate work and identifying missing requirements before the day of surgery, this conversation reveals how real-time visibility can help teams stay compliant, prepared, and ahead of costly disruptions. Tune in today to discover how connected technology can help your team spend less time chasing information and more time focusing on patient care. Over the next four weeks, this series explores what it takes to align people, process, and technology across the surgical supply chain. From strengthening clinical partnerships and vendor collaboration to optimizing workflows and embracing innovation, we'll explore the ideas and insights that help healthcare teams build best practices that last. A special thanks to our sponsor, ReadySet, for making this series possible. #PowerSupply #ReadySet #OperateInHarmony #HealthcareSupplyChain #Vendor #Clinical #Operational #Partnership #BestPractices #Technology

What if breaking the seven figure ceiling has less to do with working harder and more to do with completely changing how your practice grows? Many clinic owners hit a point where more patients, longer hours, and more personal effort simply create more exhaustion. In this episode, Dr. Lauryn sits down with Allison Maslan to explore what actually has to change when your own capacity becomes the bottleneck.They unpack scalable business models that can help practice owners grow without trading more time for money, including building a team of providers, creating recurring revenue, and acquiring other practices. Allison also explains why owners often wait too long to hire support, how to develop employees into strategic thinkers instead of task takers, why creativity matters in scaling, and how mindset and leadership must evolve alongside your business.Key TakeawaysScaling requires leverage, not simply more volume. If your growth plan is based entirely on seeing more patients yourself, your personal capacity eventually becomes the ceiling of the business.Build a team that multiplies the business. Hiring support earlier, empowering employees to think strategically, and developing other providers allows the practice to grow beyond what the owner can personally produce.Look beyond the traditional chiropractic business model. Memberships, recurring revenue, ancillary services, multiple locations, and practice acquisitions can create new paths to growth without requiring the owner to work more hours.Your leadership and mindset must scale too. Breaking through a revenue plateau requires strategic execution, bigger thinking, creativity, delegation, and a willingness to stop controlling every part of the business yourself.Guest BioAllison Maslan is a Wall Street Journal bestselling author, CEO of Pinnacle Global Network, and business scaling mentor who has built ten successful companies over more than four decades. Through Pinnacle Global Network, she works with CEOs and leadership teams to break through growth plateaus and build companies that can thrive without depending entirely on their founders. She is the author of Scale or Fail and creator of the SCALEit Method, which combines strategic planning, leadership, team development, marketing, sales, cash flow, and mindset to help entrepreneurs multiply their growth, impact, and freedom.Learn more about Allison, Pinnacle Global Network, and how to work with her and her team by visiting their website.Follow Allison on InstagramGet your free copy of Scale Or Fail, Allison's best selling book, by visiting here. Resources:Find all things Dr. Lauryn B including ways to work with herFollow Dr. Lauryn: Instagram | Facebook | LinkedInFollow She Slays on YouTubeMentioned in this episode:Clinic MindClinic Mind is the all-in-one EHR and practice management platform built for chiropractors — billing, documentation, scheduling, and patient follow-up in one place, whether you run a cash practice, take insurance, or are scaling to multiple locations. She Slays the Day listeners get an exclusive offer.Clinic MindINSiGHT CLAThis episode is brought to you by the INSiGHT scanning system from CLA, the tool that helps chiropractors show patients objective neurological data so the value of care becomes clear, fueling conversion, retention, and growth. She Slays listeners get preferred pricing, affordable financing, and a free Getting Into Scanning guide.CLA (Current)Holistic Marketing HubThis episode is sponsored by Holistic Marketing Hub. Created by marketing strategist Molly Cahill, it's a proven Instagram system with a 500+ caption content library and a step-by-step curriculum that's helped 400+ chiropractors, acupuncturists, and other health pros fill their practices with right-fit patients. Enroll Now!Holistic Marketing Hub

Anita Nayak, Founder and CEO of ClinDCast, a healthcare IT firm that helps hospitals, health systems, specialty practices, and clinics streamline operations, connect systems, and improve patient outcomes through smarter technology.Through services including EHR implementation, cloud migration, interoperability, and enterprise data integration, Anita helps healthcare organisations navigate complex transformation with greater clarity, efficiency, and purpose.Now, Anita's journey from healthcare IT engineer to CEO demonstrates what it looks like to build a company rooted in integrity, resilience, and meaningful impact.And while leading large-scale change in a complex industry, she remains focused on making healthcare more human-centred for both providers and patients.Here's where to find more:Personal Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/anitanayakBusiness Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/clindcastWebsite: https://www.clindcast.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/clindcast________________________________________________Welcome to The Unforget Yourself Show where we use the power of woo and the proof of science to help you identify your blind spots, and get over your own bullshit so that you can do the fucking thing you ACTUALLY want to do!We're Mark and Katie, the founders of Unforget Yourself and the creators of the Unforget Yourself System and on this podcast, we're here to share REAL conversations about what goes on inside the heart and minds of those brave and crazy enough to start their own business. From the accidental entrepreneur to the laser-focused CEO, we find out how they got to where they are today, not by hearing the go-to story of their success, but talking about how we all have our own BS to deal with and it's through facing ourselves that we find a way to do the fucking thing.Along the way, we hope to show you that YOU are the most important asset in your business (and your life - duh!). Being a business owner is tough! With vulnerability and humor, we get to the real story behind their success and show you that you're not alone._____________________Find all our links to all the things like the socials, how to work with us and how to apply to be on the podcast here:https://linktr.ee/unforgetyourself

Most people assume the Canadian healthcare system is highly coordinated because of single-payer funding. The truth is that data exchange across provinces is just as fragmented as it is in the US. Healthcare IT Today sat down with Karen Gauthier, VP of International, and Gurpreet (GP) Singh, SVP for Interoperability Strategy & Solutions at ELLKAY, to discuss their deep roots in Canada. We cover how they help hospitals handle massive EHR transitions and why treating data as infrastructure solves major archiving headaches. You will learn the strategies for cleaning up historical records while giving clinicians easy access directly from their new systems.

Borderline and narcissism are often misunderstood—this episode separates myth from science. Robert Drozek explores the science behind borderline and narcissistic personality disorders, separating common myths from current research. Together, he and Sue discuss attachment, trauma, genetics, parenting, evidence-based treatments, and why understanding these often misunderstood conditions can bring greater compassion, hope, and healthier relationships. “Borderline is driven by a need to reconnect.” – Robert P. Drozek, LICSW Time Stamps for Challenging Personalities: Understanding Borderline & Narcissism with Robert Drozek (307) 04:14 Understanding Borderline Personality Disorder 09:25 Exploring narcissism: Definitions and types 13:29 Vulnerable vs. grandiose narcissism 18:56 The Role of Trauma in Personality Disorders 22:25 Parenting styles and their impact on narcissism 27:14 Identifying narcissism in relationships 33:34 Treatment approaches for Borderline Personality Disorder 36:45 Challenges in treating Narcissistic Personality Disorder 45:26 Navigating relationships with narcissistic individuals About our Guest – Robert P. Drozek, LICSW Robert P. Drozek, LICSW is the clinical director of the Mentalization-Based Treatment Clinic at McLean Hospital in Belmont, Massachusetts. He is a teaching associate in the Department of Psychiatry at Harvard Medical School, specializing in the treatment of borderline personality disorder, narcissistic personality disorder, and post-traumatic stress disorder. He is author of the new book, Mentalization: Utilizing reflection to heal from borderline personality disorder—the first book for the general public about mentalization-based treatment.   Resources for Challenging Personalities: Understanding Borderline & Narcissism with Robert Drozek (307) MBT Boston – An organization that Robert co-founded that offers training and supervision to clinicians across the world in MBT MBT USA – A consortium of MBT providers and organizations in the United Robert’s faculty page at McLean Hospital Instagram: @RobertDrozek Mentalization book – Facebook page Get your copy of Mentalization: Utilizing Reflection to Heal from Borderline Personality Disorder here!     Please support our sponsors – they keep our podcast free and accessible to all!  SimplePractice is an all-in-one EHR that is HIPPA compliant, HITRUST certified and built specifically for therapists. If you are ready to simplify the business side of your practice, now is a great time to try SimplePractice. Start with a 7-day free trial, then get 50% off your first three months. Just go to SimplePractice.com/TU to claim the offer. Beyond Attachment Styles – Deepening Security in Yourself and Fostering More Secure Relationships Course available NOW!   Everyone’s heard of attachment styles – but you likely don’t know how much the popular press gets wrong and what the science actually says about how to improve your relationships long term (including how we relate to ourselves).  This course is for anyone wanting to more deeply understand attachment (styles vs patterns), unconscious defense activation patterns, implicit scripts… and most importantly, what to do once you do get activated!  Online, Self-Paced, Asynchronous Learning with Quarterly Live Q&A’s! Earn 6 Continuing Education Credits – Available at Checkout. As a listener of this podcast, use code BAS15 for a limited-time discount. Or read Marriott & Kelley’s critically-acclaimed book, Secure Relating: Holding Your Own in an Insecure World (HarperCollins,2023) for the most in-depth experience of learning about Secure Relating. Therapists love it, but it’s accessible to everyone.  If you aren’t interested in the background science, just start at Part 2 and we will be talking directly to you – it’s fun!   You are invited!  OK for those of you who refer others to the pod, use it professionally or consider yourself nerdy and just love this stuff, hello, you are our people! Join our exclusive community to get exclusive bonus content, early access to training opportunities, and an ad-free, private podcast feed. It’s this warm community that allows us to donate half of all corportate profits to mental health access for marginalized peoples.  Sign up for our premium Neuronerd plan!! Click here!! 

Is your practice generating more revenue while leaving you with less money? Are the team members you hired to create freedom actually increasing overhead, creating bottlenecks, and draining your profit? Dr. Lauryn sits down with Dr. Mark Mouw to examine why growing a practice does not automatically mean building a profitable or sustainable business.Dr. Mark shares lessons from more than 24 years of hiring associates, replacing himself in patient care, expanding services, and developing a high-performing team. They discuss compensation models, meaningful KPIs, transitioning away from a personality-based practice, and using virtual chiropractic assistants for insurance verification, lead follow-up, scheduling, and administrative work. This conversation will help clinic owners reduce payroll bloat, protect their in-office teams from burnout, and build practices that provide greater financial and personal freedom.Key TakeawaysPractice growth must be measured by profitability, not revenue alone. Clinic owners need to understand their payroll, cost per visit, average collections, profit margins, and meaningful KPIs before adding more people or services.An associate doctor cannot succeed without the right positioning, systems, and compensation model. Patients should be introduced to another qualified doctor, not “the associate,” while the owner remains responsible for creating demand and transferring trust.Expanded services can improve both patient outcomes and practice profitability. Laser therapy, decompression, supplements, and other offerings must remain congruent with the clinic's philosophy while helping patients receive better results.Virtual chiropractic assistants can reduce payroll bloat and employee burnout. Insurance verification, lead follow-up, scheduling, administrative work, and other non-patient-facing responsibilities can be delegated so the in-office team can focus on relationships, leadership, and patient care.Guest BioDr. Mark Mouw is a chiropractor, practice owner, and business leader with more than 24 years of clinical and entrepreneurial experience. After building a successful patient-centered practice alongside his wife, Dr. Mark developed extensive experience hiring associate doctors, creating scalable systems, expanding services, and building teams that allow a clinic to grow beyond its owner. As a co-owner of Chiro Matchmakers, he helps chiropractic practices find the right associate doctors, chiropractic assistants, and virtual chiropractic assistants for their specific needs. His mission is to help chiropractors build winning teams, serve more patients, improve profitability, and create greater freedom within their practices.Real People, Real Affordable: Hire a High-Caliber Virtual CA from $9.87/hr. Check out Chiro Match Makers now!Follow Dr. Mark on InstagramResources:Rich Doc Summer Series: A FREE summer training lineup for docs ready to use AI, systems, and strategy to create more freedom from the clinic. Register for one, two, or all three. Add 30-day replay access for $47 for all 3.Find all things Dr. Lauryn B including ways to work with herFollow Dr. Lauryn: Instagram | Facebook | LinkedInFollow She Slays on YouTubeMentioned in this episode:Holistic Marketing HubThis episode is sponsored by Holistic Marketing Hub. Created by marketing strategist Molly Cahill, it's a proven Instagram system with a 500+ caption content library and a step-by-step curriculum that's helped 400+ chiropractors, acupuncturists, and other health pros fill their practices with right-fit patients. Enroll Now!Holistic Marketing HubINSiGHT CLAThis episode is brought to you by the INSiGHT scanning system from CLA, the tool that helps chiropractors show patients objective neurological data so the value of care becomes clear, fueling conversion, retention, and growth. She Slays listeners get preferred pricing, affordable financing, and a free Getting Into Scanning guide.CLA (Current)Clinic MindClinic Mind is the all-in-one EHR and practice management platform built for chiropractors — billing, documentation, scheduling, and patient follow-up in one place, whether you run a cash practice, take insurance, or are scaling to multiple locations. She Slays the Day listeners get an exclusive offer.Clinic Mind

As healthcare continues its transition toward value-based care, clinical decision support (CDS) is becoming an essential tool for improving appropriate utilization while reducing administrative burden. On this episode, guest hosts Dr Sandy Rolfe (Optum, WEDI Genomics Workgroup) and Julie Brown-Georgi (AMA, WEDI's Value-Based Care Workgroup) interview Rachael Hulshizer from Mayo Clinic and Elizabeth Zobel from CareSelect® Lab to discuss how EHR-integrated, point-of-order CDS is transforming laboratory and genomic test ordering through evidence-based guidance, interoperability standards, and actionable analytics. The conversation explores how structured data, FHIR-enabled exchange, and clinician-centered workflows can help advance stewardship, improve patient care, and support the future of precision medicine

Sign up for my FREE Masterclass- How to Build a 7-Figure Group Practice and earn 1 CE Hour → https://mccancemethod.com/webinar-free-masterclass-from-solo-to-superteam/In this episode, I explain why every group practice needs a CRM in 2026 and how it can stop valuable inquiries from slipping through the cracks. I also share how a CRM can improve your response time, automate your follow-ups and help you understand which marketing strategies are actually bringing qualified clients into your practice.Make sure to bring your paper and pen because this episode is full of actionable tips!Here are some key points in this episode:[01:42] CRM vs. EHR.[03:20] Why leads get lost.[05:07] The importance of fast follow-ups.[06:29] Automating texts and follow-ups.[08:35] Introducing ClinicMonk™[16:35] Tracking qualified leads.Links From The Episode:Join the ClinicMonk™ waitlist →https://clinicmonk.com/Here is the Janeapp link for TWO free months on us! https://janesoftware.partnerlinks.io/ytg4vn Use Coupon: MCCANCE2MO

CMS-0057 and HTI-4 are reshaping prior authorization from both sides of the workflow: payer requirements and certified EHR readiness. This Office Hours session will break down what these regulations mean for providers, how they may change day-to-day prior authorization operations, and what questions organizations should be asking their vendors now. Find all of our network podcasts on your favorite podcast platforms and be sure to subscribe and like us. Learn more at www.healthcarenowradio.com/listen/

What if the fastest way to make an extra $50,000 isn't generating more revenue—but keeping more of what your practice already earns? In the final episode of the summer From the Vault series, Dr. Lauryn revisits her conversation with tax strategist Barbara Schreihans to explore why proactive tax planning belongs in every profitable practice owner's wealth strategy.Barbara breaks down how entity selection, S corporation elections, home office and vehicle deductions, business travel, content creation expenses, and real estate can affect your tax liability. She also explains why receipts, mileage logs, board minutes, and real-time documentation matter, how to evaluate whether your accountant is actually saving you money, and why quarterly CPA conversations should replace the annual tax-season scramble. Tax laws change, so use these principles to ask better questions of your own licensed tax professional.Key Takeaways:Tax strategy begins with profitability and proactive planning. Once your business is consistently profitable, taxes should become part of your year-round wealth strategy—not a problem you address after December 31.Your business entity can significantly affect your tax burden. Barbara explains why practice owners should regularly evaluate whether their LLC, sole proprietorship, or S corporation structure still supports their income and long-term goals.Legitimate deductions require legitimate documentation. Home offices, mileage, business travel, content creation, board meetings, and other expenses need a clear business purpose supported by receipts, calendars, logs, and timely records.The right accountant should create measurable value. A low-cost accountant may ultimately cost you more when they fail to identify legal planning opportunities, educate you throughout the year, or help you make strategic decisions before tax season.About the Guest:Barbara Schreihans is the founder and CEO of Your Tax Coach, creator of the Write Off Your Life and Write Off Your Real Estate courses, and host of the Life-Changing Money podcast. After earning her master's degree in tax and beginning her career at one of the world's largest accounting firms, Barbara built a tax strategy company focused on helping entrepreneurs and high-income business owners understand their finances, legally reduce their tax burden, and keep more of what they earn. Through proactive planning and practical education, she helps business owners make taxes part of their broader wealth-building strategy.Find all things Your Tax CoachFollow Barbara on InstagramResources:Rich Doc Summer Series: A FREE summer training lineup for docs ready to use AI, systems, and strategy to create more freedom from the clinic. Register for one, two, or all three. Add 30-day replay access for $47 for all 3.Find all things Dr. Lauryn B including ways to work with herFollow Dr. Lauryn: Instagram | Facebook | LinkedInFollow She Slays on YouTubeMentioned in this episode:Clinic MindClinic Mind is the all-in-one EHR and practice management platform built for chiropractors — billing, documentation, scheduling, and patient follow-up in one place, whether you run a cash practice, take insurance, or are scaling to multiple locations. She Slays the Day listeners get an exclusive offer.Clinic MindINSiGHT CLAThis episode is brought to you by the INSiGHT scanning system from CLA, the tool that helps chiropractors show patients objective neurological data so the value of care becomes clear, fueling conversion, retention, and growth. She Slays listeners get preferred pricing, affordable financing, and a free Getting Into Scanning guide.CLA (Current)Holistic Marketing HubThis episode is sponsored by Holistic Marketing Hub. Created by marketing strategist Molly Cahill, it's a proven Instagram system with a 500+ caption content library and a step-by-step curriculum that's helped 400+ chiropractors, acupuncturists, and other health pros fill their practices with right-fit patients. Enroll Now!Holistic Marketing Hub

Recorded LIVE on the floor at the AAFP Co-sponsored DPC Summit in New Orleans, Dr. Angela Andrews of Direct Primary Care of West Michigan and Dr. Nicholas Jones of Clear Health Direct Primary Care in Eugene, Oregon sit down with Dr. Maryal Concepcion for an honest roundtable on what changes between year one and year three of direct primary care practice ownership.Both opened in November 2023. Both came to New Orleans with a list. What they say out loud is what most physicians only think: the workflows you built on day one and never revisited, the boundaries you are usually the first to cross, and the succession question this movement has not solved yet.IN THIS EPISODEPhysician owned regional DPC networks, and using them for call coverage, internal locums, and physician funded startup loans instead of banksWhy you do not need a nonprofit to do nonprofit workRevisiting the workflows you built when you were solo, and what to automate, eliminate, or documentEmployers as the next phase of DPC growth, and the arrival of employed DPC positionsBoundaries, moral injury, and why the physician is usually the first one to violate the boundaryHow to handle one star reviews and trolls without losing your weekendSuccession planning, and what happens to patients when a DPC physician gets sick or closesOregon's corporate practice of medicine law, the non compete ban, and what advocacy looks like when you own your practiceGetting onto your state chapter committees, and why DPC needs representation at AAFP and state academiesSpouses, kids, and the family roles that quietly keep practices runningChoosing an EHR you will not have to leave in three yearsMENTIONED IN THIS EPISODEDr. Emily Holt, Dr. Esther Khatibi, Dr. Julie Gunther, Dr. Timothy Blain, Dr. Phil Eskew, Dr. Jill Scherer, Dr. Clodagh Ryan, Dr. Neil Douglas, Dr. Hailey Miller, Dr. Amy Tressan, and Shaunna SandersRESOURCESThe Toolkit Magazine, including this year's Battle of the Support Stack and last year's Battle of the EHRs: toolkit.mydpcstory.comThe Physician Owner's Planner Limited First Edition Bundle: mydpcstory.com/shopPHYSICIAN OWNER'S PLANNER BUNDLEFifteen available. Each one includes the printed Physician Owner's Planner in a binder, the digital bundle with our Medicare and Medicare Advantage Open Enrollment Guide, the yellow "Insurance is not healthcare" T-shirt, and a personal website review from Dr. Maryal Concepcion and Nathalia Hyland, head of marketing and strategy at My DPC Story. Limited shirt sizes remain. mydpcstory.com/shopCooperative of American Physicians or CAP. Learn more about the medical malpractice company used by Dr. Maryal Concepcion since 2021 at capphysicians.com or by calling 800-356-5672.Guava Health. A premium patient experience, pulling data from EHRs and wearables, helping  see the full picture and uncover root causes to deliver personalized care. ZION HealthShare. Get peace of mind for major medical events without going back into the insurance maze.  Hint AI helps you move faster through every stage of the patient visit. Hint AI Chat lets you ask questions about a patient's chart and instantly surface relevant notes, labs, and clinical history. Learn more at hint.com/ai.Support the showGET your FREE MONTHLY BUSINESS TOOL DOWNLOADBecome A My DPC Story PATREON MEMBER! SPONSOR THE PODMy DPC Story VOICEMAIL! DPC SWAG!FACEBOOK * INSTAGRAM * LinkedIn * TWITTER * TIKTOK * YouTube

CardioNerds (Drs. Apoorva Gangavelli, Jenna Skowronski, and Hannah Every) discuss the continuum of prevention and heart failure with Drs. Anu Lala and Martha Gulati. Grounded in a clinical case of a 55-year-old woman with uncontrolled hypertension, type 2 diabetes, and obesity who is on the trajectory toward heart failure, this episode unpacks a paradigm-shifting framework from a joint HFSA/ASPC Scientific Statement. The discussion explores how prevention should not be siloed from heart failure management but rather integrated across a patient’s lifespan—from primary prevention in at-risk individuals, to secondary prevention in those with established heart failure, to tertiary prevention in patients with advanced therapies such as LVADs and heart transplantation. The experts highlight the importance of aggressive risk factor management, biomarker-guided screening, the AHA’s Life’s Essential 8, and the need for multidisciplinary collaboration and systems-level change to shift heart failure care from reactive to proactive. Audio editing for this episode was performed by CardioNerds Intern, Dr. Julia Marques Fernandes. Enjoy this Circulation 2022 Paths to Discovery article to learn about the CardioNerds story, mission, and values. US Cardiology Review is now the official journal of CardioNerds! Submit your manuscript here. CardioNerds Prevention PageCardioNerds Episode PageCardioNerds AcademyCardionerds Healy Honor Roll CardioNerds Journal ClubSubscribe to The Heartbeat Newsletter!Check out CardioNerds SWAG!Become a CardioNerds Patron! Pearls Systemic inflammatory diseases are associated with an elevated CVD risk that has significant implications for early detection, risk Heart failure prevention is a continuum, not a checkpoint. Prevention applies at every stage—from at-risk (Stage A) through advanced/post-transplant care—and every clinical encounter is an opportunity to intervene. The AHA’s Life’s Essential 8 (diet, physical activity, nicotine exposure, sleep, BMI, blood lipids, blood glucose, blood pressure) forms the foundation at every stage. Hypertension carries the highest population-attributable risk for heart failure of any modifiable risk factor. In the Framingham Heart Study, 91% of patients with newly diagnosed HF had pre-existing hypertension. The SPRINT trial demonstrated a 38% reduction in HF incidence with intensive blood pressure targets (30 ng/L or NT-proBNP >125 ng/L) identify individuals at heightened risk for progression to symptomatic HF. The ACC/AHA/HFSA guidelines give a Class IIa recommendation for natriuretic peptide screening in at-risk patients. Urine albumin-to-creatinine ratio (UACR) is an underutilized screening tool that provides additional insight into CKM risk. The heart failure label does not close the prevention window—it accentuates it. Secondary prevention through GDMT optimization (quadruple therapy in HFrEF) and continued risk factor management remains critical. Tertiary prevention extends to post-LVAD and post-transplant patients, where hypertension, diabetes, obesity, and CKD management remain essential to long-term outcomes. Show notes For a comprehensive review, please review the full HFSA/ASPC Joint Scientific Statement: Lala A, Beavers C, Blumer V, et al. The Continuum of Prevention and Heart Failure in Cardiovascular Medicine. J Card Fail. 2026;32:75-105. doi:10.1016/j.cardfail.2025.06.013 1. What is the “continuum of prevention” framework, and how does it differ from traditional approaches to heart failure prevention? Historically, prevention and heart failure management have been treated as separate disciplines—primary prevention handled by preventive cardiologists and treatment managed by heart failure specialists. This joint HFSA/ASPC Scientific Statement reframes prevention as a dynamic, continuous process that spans a patient’s entire lifespan, regardless of HF stage or ejection fraction. The framework maps onto the ACC/AHA HF staging system: Primary prevention targets Stage A (“at risk”) and Stage B (“pre-HF”) patients to reduce the burden of incident HF. Secondary prevention targets Stage C (symptomatic) and Stage D (advanced) patients to reduce the impact of established HF through GDMT optimization and ongoing risk factor management. Tertiary prevention encompasses risk factor management in patients with LVADs or heart transplants—populations where hypertension, diabetes, and obesity still drive outcomes. The Central Figure of the statement illustrates that Life’s Essential 8 (blood pressure and lipid control, diabetes management, exercise, sleep, smoking cessation, weight management, and diet/nutrition counseling) forms the foundation at every stage, with pharmacologic and device-based therapies layered on top as disease progresses (Figure) 2. How do traditional risk factors drive heart failure, and what should clinicians prioritize? Hypertension carries the greatest population-attributable risk for HF. In the Framingham Heart Study (N=5,143), HTN was associated with a 2- to 3-fold increased risk of HF, with a population-attributable risk of 39% in men and 59% in women. The SPRINT trial showed a 38% reduction in HF incidence and 25% reduction in the primary composite outcome with intensive BP targets (30 ng/L or NT-proBNP >125 ng/L) are associated with heightened risk for progression to symptomatic HF. In the ARIC study, incorporating NT-proBNP reclassified 20% of older adults without HF into Stage B. Factors that affect interpretation include age, sex, obesity (lower values), and CKD (higher values). High-sensitivity cardiac troponin (hs-cTn): Concentrations above the 99th percentile are now included in the definition of Stage B HF. Troponin testing may complement natriuretic peptides, particularly when BNP/NT-proBNP values are ambiguous. Risk scores: The PCP-HF equation predicts 10-year HF risk using traditional risk factors plus QRS duration. The AHA PREVENT score incorporates HF risk calculation and includes markers of kidney function (albuminuria, eGFR), though it may underestimate risk in men and Black adults. The CKM syndrome staging framework (Stages 0–4) provides a holistic approach to assessing systemic cardiovascular-kidney-metabolic risk. 4. What are the key nontraditional risk factors and cross-cutting themes in heart failure prevention? Genetics: Pathogenic cardiomyopathy variants exist in ~1 in 200 individuals in the general population. The HFSA and ACMG recommend cascade testing to identify at-risk family members. Polygenic risk scores for dilated cardiomyopathy show a 3.8-fold risk for DCM in the top 10th percentile compared with the median. Sex-specific considerations: Women have 2.8 times the odds of developing HFpEF, while men have similarly increased odds of HFrEF. A complete obstetric/gynecologic history is essential—preeclampsia is associated with a 4-fold increased risk of HF. Peripartum cardiomyopathy requires intentional screening in high-risk populations. Cardiotoxic exposures: Clinicians should be aware of medications that cause direct myocardial toxicity (e.g., anthracyclines, trastuzumab, tyrosine kinase inhibitors). A team-based approach with pharmacists can help optimize medication selection and risk factor modification. Social determinants of health: Environmental exposures (air pollution, arsenic, lead, cadmium), food insecurity, financial instability, and limited healthcare access contribute to HF risk and progression. Equity-focused, risk-based prevention strategies are needed. Psychological health: Depression is common in HF and independently associated with worse outcomes. Screening with brief questionnaires (e.g., PHQ-2) is recommended. Meditation, spirituality, and holistic wellness approaches remain underutilized. 5. What systems-level and policy changes are needed to move the needle on heart failure prevention? Multidisciplinary HF prevention clinics that bring together preventive cardiologists, HF specialists, endocrinologists, nephrologists, dietitians, pharmacists, exercise physiologists, and genetic counselors are advocated by the statement. EHR-embedded risk stratification could proactively flag patients on a trajectory toward HF—analogous to sepsis alerts or fall risk flags—enabling earlier intervention, particularly for patients who may not reach a cardiologist. Cardiac rehabilitation remains underutilized, particularly in HFrEF (Class 2b recommendation) and HFpEF (not yet covered by Medicare). The HF-ACTION trial showed quality-of-life benefits, and the REHAB-HF trial showed particular benefit in older patients with HFpEF. Policy priorities include expanding insurance coverage for preventive screening and novel therapies (SGLT2i, GLP-1 RAs, nsMRAs), reducing clinical inertia through team-based care models with closer follow-up intervals, and ensuring equitable access to evidence-based therapies across diverse populations. Digital health and AI hold promise for personalized risk prediction, remote monitoring (e.g., wearable devices, implantable PA pressure monitors), and virtual cardiac rehabilitation to overcome access barriers. Figure  Lala A, Beavers C, Blumer V, et al. The continuum of prevention and heart failure in cardiovascular medicine: a joint scientific statement from the Heart Failure Society of America and the American Society for Preventive Cardiology. J Card Fail. 2026;32(1):75-105. doi:10.1016/j.cardfail.2025.06.013) References Key references are bolded. Lala A, Beavers C, Blumer V, et al. The continuum of prevention and heart failure in cardiovascular medicine: a joint scientific statement from the Heart Failure Society of America and the American Society for Preventive Cardiology. 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How AI Tools for Therapists Are Built: Trust, Data Privacy, and Choosing What to Adopt - An Interview with Ian Knox and Megan Toomey Ian Knox and Megan Toomey of SimplePractice take therapists behind the scenes of how AI tools for mental health are actually built, trained, and kept secure. We're in the middle of AI month, and Curt and Katie wanted to move past the buzzwords and talk with the people who actually engineer this technology. As part of the show's partnership with SimplePractice, they sit down with Ian Knox, Chief Product Officer, and Megan Toomey, Sr. Director of Clinical Support AI Product Management, to pull back the curtain on how AI tools for therapists get designed, what "training the model" really means, and how client data is handled. They get specific about what to evaluate before adopting any AI tool, from vendor trust and HIPAA compliance to data practices, and why note taking is the most mature use case while insurance, scheduling, intake, and referral matching are still emerging. Ian and Megan also take on the fear that AI-first companies want to replace therapists, and explain why clinicians have to stay at the center of care and review anything they put their name on. This is a grounded, practical conversation for any therapist trying to decide what AI belongs in their practice, and what to be cautious about, without panic or hype. In this episode, we discuss: - How an EHR decides which clinician tasks AI is mature enough to help with - What to evaluate before trusting an AI vendor with client data - Why "HIPAA compliant" is a floor, not proof of strong security - What "training the model" does and does not mean, and why SimplePractice says it is not training an LLM on your data - How transcripts are retained, and the new opt-in for de-identified data - Why you remain responsible for every AI-assisted note you sign - How to talk with clients about AI and get meaningful consent Timestamps: 00:16 - AI month, and why we wanted to talk to people who build AI 01:33 - Who Ian and Megan are 03:21 - SimplePractice's history with AI tools 05:38 - What therapists should know when adding AI to a practice 08:44 - Where clinicians can streamline with AI 12:23 - How to choose which AI features to adopt 16:10 - Why you can't fully trust AI, and best practices 19:29 - What clinicians should know about their data 21:13 - The Trust Center, and "are you here to replace therapists?" 23:55 - How AI systems are trained (the puppy analogy) 27:00 - White-label LLMs and the "golden data set" 29:11 - De-identified transcripts and the opt-in 31:40 - Current tools and the product roadmap Guest bios: Ian Knox is Chief Product Officer at SimplePractice, with prior product leadership at Expedia and Microsoft. Megan Toomey is Sr. Director of Clinical Support AI Product Management at SimplePractice, leading the team building AI tools for behavioral health clinicians, with prior experience at Microsoft and Amazon. Full show notes and transcript: mtsgpodcast.com Join the Modern Therapist Community Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/therapyreimagined Modern Therapist's Survival Guide Creative Credits Voice Over by DW McCann: https://www.facebook.com/McCannDW/ Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano: https://groomsymusic.com/

Mike McSherry is the CEO of Xealth, the digital health orchestration company now operating inside Samsung Electronics. Xealth gives clinicians a way to prescribe and recommend far more than medication—including digital health apps, connected devices, remote-monitoring programs, transportation, meal delivery, and other services that increasingly shape a patient's care journey.The Samsung acquisition puts Xealth inside a company with a healthcare footprint far larger than most Americans realize. Samsung operates major hospitals, manufactures biologic medicines and medical equipment, develops healthcare robotics, and already has televisions, appliances, phones, watches, and other connected devices inside millions of American homes. Mike's bet is that this existing footprint can become the infrastructure for aging in place, chronic-care management, fall detection, medication support, and earlier intervention—without making patients feel constantly watched or turning the home into a hospital.That opportunity is becoming more immediate through the CMS ACCESS Model, a ten-year effort to bring technology-enabled, outcomes-based care to Medicare patients with chronic conditions. The model could allow companies offering services such as weight management, diabetes support, mental healthcare, wearable monitoring, and AI coaching to participate more directly in Medicare care delivery. Xealth can serve as the connective layer between health systems, clinicians, patients, and these new programs, while Samsung's devices and consumer reach could support both monitoring and distribution.Mike's larger argument is that healthcare is approaching a data reset. Consumer technology companies and AI platforms are beginning to combine medical records, laboratory results, wearable signals, and patient-reported information into a more complete picture than many hospitals currently possess. Health systems and EHR companies that cannot absorb wearable data may lose relevance—but simply dumping more information on clinicians will make the problem worse. The real breakthrough will come from AI systems that filter continuous data, identify what actually matters, and surface only the moments that require human attention.We discuss:Why Samsung may have a better chance in home-based healthcare than Amazon, Walmart, Best Buy, and other major companies that struggled to turn consumer reach into sustained healthcare adoptionHow Samsung's hospitals, medical equipment, biologics manufacturing, robotics, wearables, smartphones, televisions, and connected appliances could become infrastructure for aging in place and chronic-care managementWhy big technology companies repeatedly bounce off healthcare—and why the industry rewards trust, patience, integration, and long-term investment rather than quick wins and software-like marginsWhat the ten-year CMS ACCESS Model could change for Medicare patients with chronic conditions—and why companies such as Noom, WHOOP, Headspace, Lark, and Welldoc could begin operating more like technology-enabled care providersHow Xealth could connect clinicians and health systems with covered digital-health programs, while Samsung's devices and consumer reach support patient monitoring, engagement, and distributionWhy EHRs that cannot absorb wearable data risk falling behind AI platforms and consumer-health companies that already combine medical records, laboratory results, and continuous biometric informationHow AI could prevent physicians from drowning in streams of heart rate, temperature, oxygen, sleep, stress, and activity data by identifying the signals that actually require human interventionWhere wearables and connected care go next—from patches, earbuds, glasses, and implantables to household devices and robots that help patients remain independent without making their homes feel like hospitals—Brought to you by: Sage Growth Partners — Value-focused strategy and marketing for growth-driven healthcare organizations. — Where to find Jared: • X: https://x.com/jaredstaylor • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jaredstaylor/

Hallucination is not the biggest risk in clinical AI. Omission is — and it is far harder to detect. John Laursen, SVP at IMO Health, has spent his career on the layer of healthcare AI that gets the least attention: clinical terminology and the semantic data infrastructure underneath every model deployed in a hospital. IMO Health's terminology has been built and curated since 1994 and now sits behind roughly 12 billion terminology search transactions a year across US provider organisations and every major EHR. In this interview with Tjaša Zajc, Laursen makes the case that structured data was necessary but is no longer sufficient. AI reasoning across a thirty-year patient chart needs semantic continuity — an understanding that clinical language recorded in the 1990s and language recorded today can mean the same thing. Without it, health systems are investing in models that cannot reliably interpret their own records. The conversation also covers what happens when ambient AI scribes get it wrong, why accumulated clinical data has become a computational cost rather than an asset, and why clinician trust is the constraint that determines how fast clinical AI can move. Guest: John Laursen — Senior Vice President, IMO Health (Chicago, US) Host: Tjaša Zajc — Faces of Digital Health What the conversation covers: - Why omissions, not hallucinations, are the underrated risk in clinical AI - What a semantic layer does that structured data alone cannot - How clinical terminology maps to SNOMED CT and ICD-10 — and why those code sets were built for different purposes - Ambient AI scribes: what happens when a model mishears or over-infers a diagnosis - The billing and clinical consequences of an error entering the patient record - Why problem lists hundreds of entries long now cost money in token burn - Patient-generated and AI-generated content entering the EHR, and why health systems resist it - Translating lay language into clinical terminology without losing specificity - Ambient documentation, billing intensity and friction with payers - How data quality expectations differ between the US, the NHS, the Gulf states and Singapore - Who governs clinical data as coding complexity increases - Why AI performance breaks down on rare disease and the difficult 20% of cases - Knowledge graphs as a grounding source for clinical AI models - What health systems should require from AI vendors before clinical deployment Chapters: 02:20 Why the data layer decides what clinical AI can do 03:27 Inside IMO Health: 12 billion terminology searches a year 05:36 Keeping terminology current: SNOMED, ICD-10 and clinical governance 07:35 The semantic bridge: why structured data alone is not enough 10:17 Patient language versus clinical language in the record 12:23 When an ambient scribe mishears: clinical and billing consequences 14:53 Omissions, bloated problem lists and unnecessary token burn 19:12 Outside the US: the NHS, the Gulf, Singapore and coding complexity 20:46 Who governs clinical data as complexity increases 23:35 Patient-side AI recorders and resistance to external data 26:08 Ambient documentation, billing intensity and payer friction 29:21 The last 20%: rare disease, model limits and AI governance 33:38 Grounding, clinician trust and the cost of misfiring Faces of Digital Health: Website: https://www.facesofdigitalhealth.com Newsletter: https://fodh.substack.com Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4cElKJHrauyP6QJQaCkvdY Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/faces-of-digital-health/id1194284040 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/faces-of-digital-health #digitalhealth #healthcareAI #clinicalinformatics #EHR #ambientAI #interoperability #healthdata #SNOMED #healthIT #medicalcoding

In part 2, the discussion shifts to the future, as Dr. Gerhart outlines Epic's vision for the broader health tech ecosystem and its philosophy on integrating with partners. Discover how the role of EHR is evolving into the future of care, powered by data from wearables, community sources, and real-world evidence. A key focus is the transformative power of AI and large medical models (LMMs), which aim to predict the "next medical event" and accelerate diagnoses and cures. Northwell is New York State's largest healthcare provider and private employer, with 28 hospitals, 890 outpatient facilities and more than 16,600 affiliated physicians. We're making breakthroughs in medicine at the Feinstein Institutes for Medical Research. We're training the next generation of medical professionals at the visionary Donald and Barbara Zucker School of Medicine at Hofstra/Northwell and the Hofstra Northwell School of Nursing and Physician Assistant Studies. Get the latest news and insights from our experts in the Northwell Newsroom: Press releases Insights Podcasts Publications Interested in a career at Northwell Health? Visit our career site and explore our many opportunities. Watch episodes of 20-Minute Health Talk on YouTube.  For information on our more than 100 medical specialties, visit Northwell.edu and follow us @NorthwellHealth on Facebook, Instagram, X and LinkedIn.

Better clinical decisions require more than evidence; they also require the right information inside the physician's workflow at the moment it matters. In this episode, Dr. Brian Fengler, Co-Founder and Chief Medical Officer of EvidenceCare, explains how clinical decision support helps health systems improve patient care while addressing operational and financial challenges. He discusses how EvidenceCare integrates directly into EHR workflows to guide physicians, reduce administrative burden, improve revenue capture, and increase visibility into utilization and costs. Brian also explores how the BetterCare platform supports the patient journey through AdmissionCare, CareGauge, and Care Insights by providing real-time feedback on care variation and performance. Finally, he shares his perspective on how AI and ambient documentation are reshaping physician workflows and enhancing the patient experience. Tune in to learn how actionable data, workflow integration, and physician engagement can help health systems deliver better care while improving efficiency and financial performance! Resources: Connect with and follow Dr. Brian Fengler on LinkedIn.  Follow EvidenceCare on LinkedIn and explore their website. Listen to the BetterCare Podcast here

See what the team at The Successful Bookkeeper has on right now → Andrew Seguin was already running a strong bookkeeping firm when he last appeared on this podcast — at $1 million in revenue with a team of eight. Two and a half years later, he's back with a $2 million firm and a team of fifteen. In Part 1 of this two-part conversation, Andrew walks through the real work behind that growth: the systems he built, the delegation habits he had to form, and the profitability metrics that changed how he runs everything. Chapters [00:00] Opening quote on delegation [00:42] Introducing Andrew Seguin [02:30] From $1M to $2M: the story [05:30] Getting out of the weeds [09:00] Building training systems that scale [13:00] Managing change without overwhelming the team [17:00] Introducing the effective hourly rate [23:00] Building the profitability dashboard [28:00] Time tracking: getting team buy-in [34:00] Pricing strategy and the 3-month clause Getting Out of the Weeds Even after hitting $1 million, Andrew was still deep in the day-to-day — doing bookkeeping, managing clients directly, and holding too much tax knowledge himself. The path to $2 million required him to deliberately reduce his own workload. "I was probably still doing a lot of day-to-day work," he says. "I knew I had some goals for '24 and '25, which was to reduce my own workload." That meant hiring a dedicated payroll team, bringing on a tax specialist, and doubling down on the pod structure — senior and junior team members working together as a unit. Delegation Starts With Systems, Not Just Trust One of Andrew's clearest lessons: delegation without a proper training system is just dumping work on people. He invested heavily in building a training package so that new hires could learn the firm's tools, standards, and workflows without having to figure things out from scratch. "You spend a little bit of time upfront — it's always hard because you have to find time to do it. But once you get over that hump, that's where things really start cascading into a really strong effect." He also cautions against piling on too much change in a single year, aiming instead for one meaningful improvement goal per year so the team isn't overwhelmed. The Effective Hourly Rate: A Metric That Changed Everything The single biggest profitability driver Andrew introduced was tracking each client's effective hourly rate (EHR) — revenue divided by hours worked on that file. His firm uses ClickUp for time tracking and QuickBooks Online for revenue data, feeding into a custom-built dashboard that shows the team exactly where they stand, client by client. "We essentially cut about 10% of our clients and then priced up about 40% of our clients to a rate that we wanted internally." The target range is $125–$150 per hour, minimum. Before this system, the firm's average was around $106–$108 per hour. After 18 months of using the data, it's closer to $250. Transparent Data, Aligned Teams Andrew doesn't hide this metric from his staff. The management team sees it. The bookkeepers who work on those files are aware of it. When a client's EHR falls short, the conversation isn't about poor performance — it's about scope creep, underestimated complexity, or pricing that needs revisiting. He also ties compensation growth directly to hitting those rates, so the team has a real reason to track their time accurately. "I'm very transparent — you guys wouldn't have these increases the way you have been getting for the last 3 years if we didn't have this data." Pricing, Minimums, and the 3-Month Revisit Clause Andrew's pricing approach is a hybrid of fixed and value-based: estimate the hours, multiply by the target EHR, then add complexity factors like multi-currency, e-commerce, or payroll. The firm's minimum for monthly engagements is $1,000, with an average around $1,600. Critically, every new engagement includes a clause allowing the firm to revisit pricing after three months — when actual time and complexity data is in hand. "We've had to do that a few times because there is no perfect system. A questionnaire and a quick conversation isn't going to tell you enough about the complexities and the volume of the file." Links Mentioned PureBookkeeping — episode sponsor The Successful Bookkeeper — resources and episode archive ClickUp — project and time-tracking tool used by Seguin Financial About the Guest Andrew Seguin is the founder of Seguin Financial, a virtual bookkeeping firm based in Canada with a team of fifteen full-time staff. Over eight and a half years, Andrew grew his firm from a solo side practice to a $2 million business, built around strong systems, transparent team culture, and data-driven client management. He is a frequent speaker and educator in the bookkeeping community. About the hostMichael PalmerMichael Palmer is the host of The Successful Bookkeeper podcast and co-founder of Pure Bookkeeping and The Successful Bookkeeper. He started this work because of his father — a brilliant electrical contractor who worked twice as hard as he should have had to, because nobody on the financial side was in his corner. That gap is what The Successful Bookkeeper exists to close. His view: bookkeepers are the most undervalued force in small business — and every bookkeeper who builds a real business changes two families: theirs, and their clients'.

CMS-0057 and HTI-4 are reshaping prior authorization from both sides of the workflow: payer requirements and certified EHR readiness. This episode will break down what these regulations mean for providers, how they may change day-to-day prior authorization operations, and what questions organizations should be asking their vendors now.Brought to you by www.infinx.com

You cannot make an extra $50,000 by guessing your way through the rest of the year. In part three of Dr. Lauryn's Summer From the Vault series, we move from mindset and sales into the numbers that reveal what is actually happening inside your practice—and where your next opportunity for growth may be hiding.Dr. Lauryn explains how to separate emotion and ego from your business metrics, determine which numbers deserve your attention, and use data to diagnose problems with marketing, conversion, retention, training, and practice systems. You'll learn why weekly visits and revenue never tell the whole story, how small improvements can produce meaningful growth, and why your numbers are information—not a judgment of your success.Key TakeawaysRevenue and weekly visits do not tell the entire story. Profitability, patient value, lead quality, and the context behind each metric provide a much clearer picture of your practice's financial health.Tracking the right KPIs reveals where revenue is leaking. New patient calls, booking rates, show rates, conversions, retention, breakups, and referrals can show you exactly where to focus your attention.Established practices usually grow through small improvements. Better training, stronger table talk, more qualified marketing leads, and 1–5% improvements across key systems can create significant financial results.Your numbers are tools, not a measure of your worth. They help you make non-emotional decisions, identify operational bottlenecks, and determine whether your practice needs better systems, renewed leadership, or intentional rest.Resources:Rich Doc Summer Series: A FREE summer training lineup for docs ready to use AI, systems, and strategy to create more freedom from the clinic. Register for one, two, or all three. Add 30-day replay access for $47 for all 3.Find all things Dr. Lauryn B including ways to work with herFollow Dr. Lauryn: Instagram | Facebook | LinkedInFollow She Slays on YouTubeMentioned in this episode:INSiGHT CLAThis episode is brought to you by the INSiGHT scanning system from CLA, the tool that helps chiropractors show patients objective neurological data so the value of care becomes clear, fueling conversion, retention, and growth. She Slays listeners get preferred pricing, affordable financing, and a free Getting Into Scanning guide.CLA (Current)Holistic Marketing HubThis episode is sponsored by Holistic Marketing Hub. Created by marketing strategist Molly Cahill, it's a proven Instagram system with a 500+ caption content library and a step-by-step curriculum that's helped 400+ chiropractors, acupuncturists, and other health pros fill their practices with right-fit patients. Enroll Now!Holistic Marketing HubClinic MindClinic Mind is the all-in-one EHR and practice management platform built for chiropractors — billing, documentation, scheduling, and patient follow-up in one place, whether you run a cash practice, take insurance, or are scaling to multiple locations. She Slays the Day listeners get an exclusive offer.Clinic Mind

As a nurse with MS, I’m interviewed about AI’s real role in care: pattern recognition, human-in-the-loop skepticism, and the Three T’s and Two C’s framework. Click here to view the printable newsletter. More readable than a transcript. Click here for a verbatim transcript Summary I sit in the guest chair on Practical AI in Healthcare with Steve Labkoff. I walk through my experience feeding my own symptom logs, lab results, and ten years of clinician notes into an AI LLM: a physical therapy referral I needed and hadn’t scheduled, a medication side effect my neurologist later confirmed, and a rating scale buried in my chart that no one had surfaced. I describe the less impressive side: the four-pound box of unsorted paper my primary care practice mailed me and the 296 pages of unsearchable PDFs I got back from another system in fifteen minutes. Along the way, I lay out my framework for judging any digital health tool, the Three T’s and Two C’s: time, trust, talk, control, and connection, and explain why I insist on keeping humans in the loop even though the research on that is more complicated than people assume. This isn’t a pitch for AI in healthcare. It’s a working nurse and patient’s honest field report. What’s your experience been feeding your own health data into an AI LLM? Tell us in the comments. Episode Transcript Proem I usually ask the questions. This time I'm the guest. I met Drs. Steve Labkoff and Leon Rozenblit a couple of years ago at a DCI Network conference. They host Practical AI in Healthcare, a show I've listened to steadily, though it creates more tension for me than any other podcast I keep coming back to. Usually, I jettison podcasts that do that. I stay with this one because I approach AI in healthcare the way I approach best health; I'm an N of one and resist generalizing, while most guests do a fair amount of it. I bristle at most of them, wanting the shades of gray that reflect deep understanding. In four of 33 episodes, the guest has had lived experience: ePatient Dave DeBronkart, Amy Price, Hugo Campos, and me. I invited Steve and Leon to join my virtual Reckoning group, which I've hosted since 2019. We give podcasters warm critiques of selected episodes: the kind of feedback you give when you've made a hundred mistakes yourself, can spot them quickly in someone else's cut, and have endless thoughts about production, audience, dissemination, and life. They took the critique well. When Steve later asked me to come on his show to talk about how I use AI, not the theory but the daily grind, I readily agreed. They let me publish it here unchanged, apart from this Proem and Reflection. I struggled to prepare for this conversation. I wanted to wear all my hats, but had to narrow my focus to two. I chose my lived experience and nurse hats. Underneath it all was the question I keep circling back to. Not a cure. Best health, the most function, and Hello, and welcome to this week’s edition of Practical AI in Healthcare. My name is Dr. Steven Lapcoff, and this week I’m actually on my own because my partner, Dr. Leon Rosenblatt, is actually on spring break with his kids, so I am covering for him and he’ll be back in the next week. This week we have a guest who we met at a conference in Boston a few months ago at the Beth Israel at the DCI network. Steven Labkoff: We have Danny van Leeuwen. Danny is a nurse. He has background in giving actual physical care to patients. He actually runs his own podcast called Health Hats, the Podcast, and he’s been using AI in both his personal life and in his professional life very extensively. Also, Danny has a significant medical condition, and I’ll let him explain that in the course of the discussion because it’s with that lens that we got introduced at our patient-centric AI conference, and that’s why we thought it’d be a good idea to have Danny come and have a chat with us. So welcome to the podcast, Danny. How are you today? Health Hats: I’m good. Thank you. Thanks for having me. I appreciate it. Steven Labkoff: So Danny, as you probably have heard because you’ve helped us with our podcast, and for that I want to say thank you. For those who are listening in, Danny runs actually a group that actually helps folks running podcasts improve their podcasts, and he’s had Leon and I on many times to listen to critiques and feedback, and it’s been very, very helpful. Danny, we often start our podcast with asking for folks’ origin stories, like how did they get their cape and their superhero tights. What did you do to get you to this point in your life? And just tell us the background of what brought you here. Health Hats: Oh, thanks. So I’m a child of Holocaust survivors, and my parents– when I was young, my parents were active in the civil rights and fair housing movement in the ’60s. And when I was 16 and I was thinking about the war in Vietnam and worried about getting drafted, I wanted to learn what I could learn about the draft and how I could protect myself and manage. And I went to a church in downtown Detroit, and I went for a session of draft counseling as, you know, a little precocious at 16, and I found it fascinating, and they found me fascinating, and they encouraged me to become a draft counselor. And so I, uh, I actually took their course and became a draft counselor, and what I learned is that you change systems from the inside, not the outside. And I learned how the sausage was made, and that, uh, really pointed me in a direction. The way I got into nursing is really because I didn’t want to cut my hair I had an opportunity for a job at one point, and I could have read water meters or become an aide at the Detroit Psychiatric Institute. And reading water meters paid more, but I didn’t wanna cut my hair, so I got the job as, as nurse’s aide. And while I was there, they introduced me to the idea of going to nursing school, which was amazing. Steven Labkoff: It was more– You got paid more to read meters, water meters, than you did- Health Hats: Yes. Steven Labkoff: That’s unbelievable. Life gives you some real interesting turns and twists, doesn’t it? Health Hats: It does. And I was really fortunate because my first jobs in nursing were in physical rehabilitation and home care. I just happened to be in a place where the Holyoke Visiting Nurses was dying to hire a guy, and I was a brand-new nurse, and they ended up hiring me. And so my first introduction to nursing was not in acute care. It was in home care, and actually, I was the first male public health nurse in Western Massachusetts in 1976. And really, what I learned there was that most healthcare does not occur in the medical system. It occurs outside the medical system. And so when I ended up getting into medical care, it was always so interesting to me that everybody there thought this is where, you know, health happened, which it doesn’t. So over the 20 years of working as a nurse, I’ve worked in, other than the rehab and home care, I’ve worked in the emergency department, I’ve worked in ICU, I worked in pediatrics, behavioral health. And after about 15, 20 years, I shifted from becoming a student of individual health to a student o- of organizational health. And what I mean by that is I got into performance improvement. I led a couple of electronic health record implementations. I had a couple of gigs in the C-suite. I did some consulting. Now, in 2009, I was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis, and when I was diagnosed, I learned that I had had it for 25 years. And since my father died young, he died at 45 when I was 19 of his second heart attack, and so every time I would have some kind of episode, I would get a cardiac workup. And by the time the cardiac workup was done, you know, the episode was over, and this went on two, three, four times a year for a long time. And there was a pattern there, and nobody was connecting the dots for 25 years. That’s very important to me because the pattern of what was going on was in my records for 25 years, but nobody had synthesized it. Steven Labkoff: Yeah, they may have been biased, right? Because of your family history and having these episodes, you know, as a clinician, you get very biased by family history, and that can actually lead you down roads which may not be correct, and it sounds like that’s precisely what happened with you. Health Hats: So I’ve– I wanna bring in the caregiver role because I have been a caregiver for my grandmother, my mother, and a son in their end-of-life journeys. So I’ve been on many sides of very difficult decisions. As you said, that my shtick is health hats, and I’m health hats because I’m a patient, I’m a caregiver, I’m a nurse, I’m an advocate, I’m an informaticist, I’m a podcast host. I wear a lot of hats. And wearing many hats has gotten me a seat at many tables because they can check off boxes. When it was really different to be bringing patients o-on board, I was an easy choice. Uh, I was at the table for technical expert panels at CMS, at National Academy of Medicine, at AHRQ, National Quality Forum, PCORI, Patient-Centered Outcomes Research Institute. But really, I wasn’t really there in it for the seat itself. My goal was always to open seats for people who weren’t there yet Now let’s build the bridge, since this is a podcast about AI, let’s build that little bit of that bridge. So my first, like, serious experience with– Well, I don’t know about my first. I was involved in something that you probably are familiar with, which was the Blue Button Plus program, and my goal in that, I was there both as a patient and as somebody who was working with people with disabilities. I, I was VP of quality for an organization that supported about 40,000 people with disabilities. And my goal for that couple of years of weekly or every other week, I can’t remember, calls was, uh, to add a f- a caregiver field to the data set, and to also introduce the idea that what people needed was information that would be able to say what works for me when I’m in pain and what works for me when I’m afraid, which was an issue for me, and it was an issue for the organization that I was working with at the time. Now, I have to say that the caregiver field got added, so I felt some success in that. But as a nurse leader in the informatics group I was part of, really they were only interested in putting a name in the field, not doing anything with that information, which I- Just collecting, so just collecting the data. Steven Labkoff: They didn’t care what the data was used for? Is that what you’re saying? Health Hats: Correct. Yeah. And I couldn’t– got no traction on the pain and fear, which now that I’m older, I understand why, how difficult that is. Nevertheless, it’s something that’s important to patients and caregivers. So I think I would close this section with that I am both an early adopter of technology and a rapid skeptic, that I’m kinda making this number up, but I’ve probably tried over 100 health apps, and I would say that I’ve used five more than three times. And so I think there’s a gap between what’s promised with digital technology and what’s useful for people. So that’s really why I’m here and what’s guiding for me in this. Steven Labkoff: So let’s take it to the next step. In our prequel, I didn’t even know about your personal background to that degree. Mm-hmm. We can take that one offline later about the Holocaust survivor issues. We, we have family, I have family in that same situation, frankly. Let’s change gears and talk about the challenges that you’ve seen. You opened the door a little bit on that a few minutes ago- Yeah … in terms of people wanting to collect data but not necessarily doing much with the data, not being able to understand the true value of the data to some degree. And you said it yourself, people weren’t connecting the dots. Medical records have always been complicated. They’ve always been bulky. They’ve always been full of information, some of which is really relevant, a lot of which is not so relevant, and connecting the dots to making that a, uh, an important information source is not always an obvious task. So what, what was the particular angle on that challenge that you were trying to gun at? Health Hats: Well, I think we have to take a step back- and think about what is– Well, I’m just gonna speak for myself, okay? I know that I often, you know, as I said, I get asked to sit at the table because people can, you know, check boxes, like is that I’m a patient. I wanna be clear that I’m a privileged white old man with MS living in Boston, but I’m an N of one, and I don’t represent other patients. I’m representing myself here and my perspectives. My goal in terms of my health is best health, and what I mean by best health is optimal health and function, physical, mental, spiritual. Not a cure, but best health for where I am, what I have right now. And to get there, I need my own health data, not just what’s in my clinician’s chart, but what I know about myself, my circumstances, my environment, my history, my habits. Not just my medical history, my life history, my treatment responses. And so that’s like patient-reported data, and that’s stuff that’s only exists because I observe it and sometimes I record it And that’s where it falls apart right away. You were just alluding to some of it, that there’s all this medical data and what’s useful about that. I think Dave DeBronkart was a guest on your show. And when he launched his Gimme My Damn Data campaign, I responded to him with, “Watch what you wish for. You’ll be trying to drink dirty water from a fire hose.” And, and that was years ago, and it’s still true. So six months ago, I, I’d been on a mission to gather my medical data, and my– I’d been with my, uh, primary care practice since 2011, and I wanted all that data from 2011 to 2025. This was, like, in December I started on this crusade of trying to get my data. And actually, two months later, I got a box, a four-pound box of paper, and it was paper that was not in chronological order. And it’s just sitting right here. I’ve scanned it in. It’s not, um- Was it in– Steven Labkoff: Was it a printout of Epic or something, or was it actual- Health Hats: It’s a computer printout. It seems like it’s a vendor that they use to- Steven Labkoff: It wasn’t digital. They sent you, literally sent you a box of paper. Health Hats: Yeah, it was a box of paper. Oh. And then I use a lot the, the Beth Israel Lahey Mount Auburn system, and I asked for the last three months of my records, and I got 296 pages of redundant, non-searchable PDFs, and I got that in 15 minutes. Uh, I see a lot of doctors, so maybe I had seen Hmm. I think I had maybe eight or nine visits, and it just happened to be a three-month period that was busy for me, but I got s- 296 pages. And so that really adds to your comment, which is that access to data and access to usable data are really different. Steven Labkoff: Oh, absolutely. And yeah, I’ll tell you, in my world, I think you know that I’ve worked in the life sciences for many, many years, and we are consumers of healthcare data on many levels. We consume medical claims, we consume electronic medical records, and one of the hardest things about using medical records for research or for outcome studies and things like that is the very fact you’re describing, which is the data tends to be sparse, it tends to be poorly organized. It doesn’t always come in an encoded fashion. Thank God most of what we get these days is at least digital. No boxes of paper for us these days, but it wasn’t so long ago that when it was all paper, we couldn’t get that data in the first place. It just wasn’t even gettable. So at least you’ve made some progress. And- Yeah … yeah, I know that you sit on some national level boards, uh, around outcomes, and you can talk about that in a moment. But those are, you know, those boards are trying very hard to come up with outcome studies and ways of– Let me back that up. They’re coming up with ways of using data to perform outcome studies by harmonizing and, and distilling down to usable forms of this EHR data, which is so challenging. Health Hats: I think what’s key, I– like I, I think I w- I’d like to focus on my data. And so what I wanna do is I wanna see patterns. I wanna see patterns that takes my circumstances, my environment, my habits, my treatment over time, and because I think that these patterns are how I formulate the right questions, so the right questions before I go into a clinical encounter. They’re how I track when something is actually working, and it helps me to coordinate across care teams that don’t talk to each other and make decisions that I can live with that help me attain this goal of best health. So that’s the job, formulate better questions, g- seek better answers, make better decisions. And AI is the tool that I try to use to do it. Now, whether it’s up to the task or not is different. I wanna stick in the nursing angle, if you don’t mind- You know, one of the things that I learned the way I got started in nursing is that my goal as a nurse was to put myself out of a job. Steven Labkoff: So that sounds counterintuitive, but what I mean is from minute one with a patient and family, I’m planning my exit. Like, and to do that, I need maximum face time. I need real present, real conversation, real relationships, not less charting. I was gonna say not charting, not documentation, so that’s just ridiculous. Health Hats: But less, you know. The way you do that, I think, is, you know, less charting, less documentation, you know, not hunting through information you can’t find. And that’s where nursing, that’s a genuine promise. So pattern recognition across specific cohorts of patients. So as a nurse, even though I worked a lot of different places, in each place I worked, there was commonalities. In– When I lived in West Virginia and I was an ER nurse in a super rural hospital, if I had had more information about my patients, their families, I could get– an AI could help me surface those patterns that exist for the people that I’m taking care of, I think I could get time back as a nurse. And if the nurse gets time back, then the patient and family gets the presence of the clinician. So that’s the trade that I’m interested in I wanna go back to that thing about pain and fear. I wanna add what I’ve learned working on the blue button, plus I wanna add cognition. So when you think about it, the data almost never captures the variability of pain, fear, and cognition, and those things are really important because pain changes what you can do and what you can decide. Fear closes your heart. It closes your mind. And so when you’re scared in a clinical encounter, you’re not making good decisions. You’re just saying yes to end it. And cognition is, you know, it varies. Like I can absorb better at 10 in the morning on a good day compared to 3:00 in the afternoon when I’m spent. You know, you could extrapolate this to other people. They have their own particular patterns and circumstances. But I think What I’m trying to get at in all of this is it isn’t first about the data, it’s first about what about life and what about the things that are important to people, uh, patients, caregivers, and the clinicians that they partner with, and how can AI help them? Steven Labkoff: So you’ve explained to me in the pre-call that you’re doing some of this work, so maybe you can unpack a little bit about what it is you’re actually doing with it and how it’s helping or, in some cases, not helping those efforts. Health Hats: Well, what have I done? I, I’ve done different things. One of the things that, that I’ve done is to try to build my toolkit. You know? So when I say build my toolkit, I’m a, I’m a, a conglomeration of symptoms. I mean, you know, I’m, I’m not MS, I’m not my symptoms, but they’re big and they’re there, and I feel like I’m trying to, I’m trying to figure out for anything that I have to deal with, whether it’s any of the different kinds of pains I have, my, my anxiety, my bladder, you know, my mobility, I have challenges, and I, I need a toolbox. I need a toolbox, and the way I think is I need at least three things that will work so that when they happen, I got something I can go do, and pretty much the most common thing is drink water. Drink water is by far the most successful intervention across all of my symptoms. It’s kind of amazing. It’s so cheap, so easy. It isn’t the drugs. Okay, but so how do I do that? Well, for me, I’ve done that partially just in my head. Partially I’ve done that by keeping lists. Like, I keep track of the steps I take. I keep track of the amount of time I play music. I keep track of my falls. I keep track of my weight. And so I use digital tools to do that when I can. Steven Labkoff: I also record my clinician visits because- When you say record, do you mean like audio record or dig- Health Hats: Yeah. Yeah, audio record, right. And, uh, until recently I used Abridge, which is a company that, um- Steven Labkoff: How did you get to use Abridge? You– I thought Abridge was only selling basically into doctor’s offices, uh, from the clinician side. Do you- Health Hats: So I was before that. Ah. And they started as a patient-facing product, and actually they sponsored my podcast for three years. So I was pre that. So putting all that together, so I play with, you know, trying to put into Claude There’s nothing magic or special. You know, it’s me playing, just trying stuff. You know, some of it, you know, my wife will say, “Hey,” she sees a pattern. My kids will see a pattern, or I’ll- Steven Labkoff: Give, give, give us an example of what, of what this looks like. I mean, you’re saying you’re giving Claude or another LLM- Yeah … a series of symptoms, or you’re giving it a series of, plus your data. Like, unpack it and let us know. Yeah. What have you did- Okay, so what- … with the system, and how is it working for you? Health Hats: I’ve done a couple of different things. One is, you know, I have a spreadsheet, and I just put the spreadsheet in, you know, as a document or whatever you call it when you have a project and, you know, you load. I load my spreadsheet. I keep a annual summary, and I keep the year that I’m working on. And I will have fits of journaling. You know, I, this is not something that I am, like, super consistent on, but I’ll, especially when I’m struggling with something, if I’m struggling with my blood pressure or I’m struggling with my mood. I have a progressive mobility thing going on, and I’ll put that in and I’ll prompt. I’ll say, “Can you– do you see a pattern in this?” You know, and I’ve gotten, you know, that there’s- Steven Labkoff: Has it given you some insights? Is it… Like, give me an example of some of the insights it’s actually given you that you didn’t see yourself. Health Hats: Well, I’ve gotten, like, uh, it’s kind of humorous. But, but I’ve gotten, like, you know, “Have you thought about seeing a physical therapist?” And I, I have. You know, I have a physical therapist, uh, that I don’t go to very often. You know, my relationship with her is I go for a tune-up. But they’ll– I, I want– It’ll show, like, I’ll do my sort of things are clearly, you know, I’m not walking as far, I’ve fell on a few times, you know, and I’ll get this suggestion, you know. I also– What else have I done? Oh, oh, uh, once I had a medication that I was taking for neuropathy, and I was– my mood had, like, changed considerably and, you know, I got a thing on that might be a side effect. You know, “Have you talked to your doctor about this?” Steven Labkoff: And I- And you got that out of the LLM? You fed that to the LLM? Health Hats: I did. Yeah. Steven Labkoff: And it suggested it was a side effect, which you didn’t figure out. Health Hats: I didn’t. A neurologist said that he thought– He said, “It sounds like you have an allergy to it.” And, you know, he wanted it to be listed as an allergy because he thought it was very possible that he’s had people that have had a problem. Steven Labkoff: When you tell me that you’ve loaded your data, you give the LLM your signs, your symptoms, you give it your labs, you give it what’s in, in the system, and it comes up with a recommendation that you hadn’t thought– Now, you’re a clinician. You’re a nurse. Yeah. You’ve been a nurse for many, many decades. Health Hats: 50 years. Steven Labkoff: 50 years. And does it surprise you that it comes up with stuff that you didn’t see? Health Hats: No. Steven Labkoff: Cause I, to be honest with you- I- … if I, if I did what you just said and it came up with something completely radical that I’d never thought of and it was right- I would be scratching my head and thinking, “Okay, that’s in- that’s beyond interesting. I better pay more attention to this, and maybe I wanna use it differently.” Because not, it’s not just yous using it. Like, people around everywhere are starting to use it for the same, in the same sim- in the same exact way. So that’s the simplification of the medical system, right? Health Hats: It does. I mean, like when I tell my neurologist, he laughs, and he’s like a whatever works kinda guy, you know? That he feels like he doesn’t have all the answers, and that he likes- those stories. I feel like I’ve learned, I think you know Amy Price, right? Steven Labkoff: Yeah, very well. Health Hats: Yeah. We’re buddies. And so one of the things that I’ve learned from her is how to query and how to be skeptical and how to ask questions from different angles, from different perspectives so that you– And that’s why I think that’s where the unexpected comes up. Steven Labkoff: Well, you’re describing something that we did at the conference. I don’t know if you were in the room in the working group that we did this on, but you’re describing, and actually we’re submitting a paper on it very shortly, on AI literacy. Yeah. And you, you didn’t label it as such, but you’re describing yourself as being AI literate and understanding how to use the tools, most importantly, how to be skeptical of the answers, how to interpret the information that’s being presented to you. Health Hats: A- and that, those are all components of literacy, of AI literacy specifically. One of the things I’m finding in my world is that painfully few people are indeed AI literate. Even the folks in IT departments in large life science companies or hospitals who even work in the space and think that they’re good at it and are literate sometimes are not. That has other implications, which are if people are taking on these really impressively powerful tools and they don’t quite know how to use them as well as they should, and if they query them incorrectly, to your point earlier about making good queries, the responses that come out may or may not be the point. And if patients use that information inappropriately because they didn’t know how to ask the right questions to start with, that could have deep implications to the healthcare system. You could say that same thing about doctors. Steven Labkoff: I will say it about doctors. I mean, not about AI, about the advice that doctors give. Health Hats: There’s a, a tremendous variation, and it is very different. When I am feeling good enough to be organized and to be directive in the conversation with a clinician, I get a very different output than when I’m not. And I still have to be skeptical of what doctors tell me, and until I build some trust. And, and then I, you know, then there’s just too many decisions to make when you’re a person with chronic illness. It’s like putting in a kitchen. There’s so many decisions to make, and I’m happy for the doctors that I trust to make the decisions for me. But there are certain decisions I don’t want to give to the doctor or to AI, like I don’t wanna mess with my pathological optimism. I wanna progress as slowly as possible, and I wanna keep playing my horn. These are really important things to me, and I don’t give those decisions that affect that, I don’t give up. But all the rest of it I do, and, and I’ve worked really hard to build the team that I have that appreciates me and my strangeness and my assertiveness, and, you know, they’re not threatened by it. Steven Labkoff: Is your team AI literate? Do they also use the, these same tools in your care? Health Hats: Uh, like I don’t know. I mean, AI literate is like, is huge. You know? I mean, that’s just such a big thing. Do they use AI? Yes. Do I know how they use AI? Well, you know, they use what’s attached to Epic. I know that. Uh, I mean, look, my neurologist, who I just love, he thinks like he uses, he uses the portal well because he takes– he just keeps adding things to the end of the, a note. Yeah. And so he feels like… Well, I don’t find his notes at all useful, and I tell him that. I tell him, “What I really wanna know is, how am I doing? Am I getting better? Am I getting worse? Am I stable? What should I be paying attention to in the next six months till I see you again?” And I can’t find that in his note. That’s true. Yeah. Now, on the other hand, I’ve taken his note and asked Claude and say, “Here’s the note. How am I doing? You know, have I progressed? H-how is he measuring it?” Oh, well, then I find he’s using this scale, right? And it’ll come up with looking through this note, which is like 10 years running, and it’ll find, I can’t remember the name of it, but there’s a scale that he uses. And then we go back and I’ll say to him, “Oh, you’re using this scale.” And he goes, “Yeah.” And I say, “Well, why don’t you like put that at the top of your note?” You know, so that I can find it. You know, so we have that kind of conversation- Yeah … that AI has helped. Steven Labkoff: Well, that’s actually an interesting perspective that AI is helping to reorganize things, ’cause one of the use cases that has been discussed at, at length actually, and it was discussed at our conference, is using AI to digest medical records. Health Hats: And when I say digest, it’s not about like ingesting them, which is slightly different, but digesting, which means find all the different pieces, put them together, come up with a narrative that summarizes perhaps 300 pages of information which may be sparse and may be poorly organized, and bring it all together. And that’s actually a task that AI is actually turning out to be pretty darn good at. And that again changes the nature of the healthcare system and the healthcare journey. You know- And it does a fair job. You say it’s really good at it. So- It’s better than I could do. It’s better than I could do. Well, yes. Well, you’re not– First of all, that’s not your training, and you don’t have the time for it. And you still have to review it. Yeah, of course. Because I have never used AI that gave me a, “Oh, this is great.” I mean, the first time I read it pretty much every time I think it’s amazing. And then, you know, my rule is sleep on it and check it again. And then it’s like, oh my God, this, first of all, it either just said nothing very fancy or it got some very basic things wrong. And then I’ll say, “Oh, you know, you missed this and you missed that.” And it’ll go, “Oh, you’re right, I did.” You know? Steven Labkoff: Well, that also speaks to the concept of keeping a human in the loop- Yeah which is something that you espouse and many folks in the healthcare aisle- I do … espouse. Ironically, you know Adam Rodman, I think. He was at our conference, he spoke. Yeah. Uh, he’s done a study which shows actually having a human in the loop in some cases actually makes the conclusions worse, believe it or not. Ah. Which is w- a non-intuitive finding. You would think that the two together would be better than either one alone, but so that’s, that’s now relatively n- well, it’s not even that new anymore. That information came out about a year ago. So I, we gotta start wrapping up in a few minutes here. Yeah. You know, we didn’t cover the concept around outcomes around your three T’s and two C’s. Maybe we can cover that in the last bit here, and then we can get to closing. Health Hats: Okay. So I feel like one of the questions that you’ve asked is how AI helped, right? And so what I need to tell you is the framework that I’ve developed over the years, which I’ve actually shared in my AI Claude project that’s Danny’s Health, what I call the three T’s and the two C’s, and this is like the framework I use to evaluate any digital health technology. And so they are time, trust, talk, control, and connection. What I mean by that is time is, you know, you need time to learn, to plan, to talk, to build trust. So I say the clock isn’t the enemy, it’s the, the wrong things filling the time, so the, the time. The second is trust. You know, trust can take a really long time. It can happen really quickly. Sometimes you never have it, and you know in your gut when you don’t have it. And most digital health tools, AI, have a trust deficit, I think, not because they’re untru- untrustworthy, which maybe they are, but it’s really because the people who use them, use the tools, don’t, don’t trust them, and I think it’s really important. You c- you can’t shortcut trust in the use of any tool. I think talk is really important. It’s woven through all of it, real conversation. There is nothing like actual conversation that is making decisions together, which is a lot of what healthcare is about, is making decisions. AI can help you prepare for it, and it can help process it. And then control. I trust more when I have power in a situation. So if I’m feeling like an ant ready to be crushed, I’m not making good decisions. And finally, I would say connection is, it’s the human lifeline. You know, when somebody greets you when you cross a threshold, that’s a connection. When someone’s been where you’re going and they can say, “Oh, that helped me.” AI can extend that connection. They can help people find communities that are available at 3:00 in the morning, but you can’t manufacture it. I, I think that connection is really important, so that’s where I g- you know, time, talk, trust, control, and connection, and I use that framework when I’m evaluating. Steven Labkoff: And that framework gives you a better, you know, a how do I say this right? It gives you a, like a rubric, if you will, to go- Yes … through, uh, the information that’s coming out of it. Danny- Yeah … we’re gonna have to wrap up here in a second. Sure. Are there any last comments you wanna make that, that will, you know, help other patients in the, in the space in terms of how they might wanna think about adopting- an AI tool in their world? Health Hats: I think that I would say use it, use AI, keep using it, experiment with it. That, that i- i- just like anything else, it takes time to learn. It takes time to be comfortable with it. Use it. I would say advocate for humans in the loop. I don’t care what the study says. It’s about humans. We are human. Keep it humans in the loop. I would say find a buddy, you know. Do this with somebody else. Find a buddy- That’s good advice … and experiment. I would say, yeah, talk to your clinician about it. It’s a good barometer of a physician. If they don’t wanna talk or blow you off, that tells you something. Absolutely right. And I would say if you’re comfortable with it, mentor. You know- That’s a good idea … be the buddy. And for clinicians and for systems and developers, I would say you need to have patients, caregivers, and practicing partner clinicians in the design. They need to be there from the beginning. And, you know, so i- it solves the problems people have, not the problems that the developers think are there or the venture capitalists thinks are gonna make money. You know, y- and if you have an opportunity, join, you know, participate. Steven Labkoff: All good advice. Well, Danny, I wanna thank you very much for your participation in, in today’s discussion. Hopefully that there are other patients out there who listen to the podcast, they’ll take something away. For the clinicians out there who are listening, you know, you’ve heard it straight out from a patient who happens to be a healthcare provider himself, and he’s got very strong perspectives on how this can be used in a positive and productive way, and I think the framework that he’s put together is very useful. Danny, I wanna just say thank you for all the help that you’ve provided helping this podcast get off the ground. That’s been really incredibly generous of you and your friends who have helped us a lot, and a lot of the things that have happened on our podcast, uh, for improvement’s sake, have come directly from those conversations, so thank you for that. I wanna thank you for being a guest and sharing your journey and sharing your experiences here. And for the rest of us, I’m gonna say thank you for joining us, and we will see you again next time on another episode of Practical AI in Healthcare. Thank you for listening. Thank you for joining us this week on Practical AI in Healthcare. If you’re ready to go beyond buzzwords and hype and explore how AI is truly transforming healthcare, stay tuned for more conversations that get us to what works. Until next time, stay practical Reflection When Steve interviewed me, he didn't know that everything I told him is the origin story of TrustMyOwn.Health. The box of paper. The 296 pages that were technically my data and practically useless. Twenty-five years of a pattern that sat in my chart the whole time, that it took a person, my PCP, a year to put together. Could AI have done it in an afternoon?  I got tired of that being the normal experience instead of the exception. [Add: what specifically prompted starting TMOH, and when.] TMOH starts from a premise I didn't have language for until I said it out loud to Steve: trust isn't a feature you bolt onto a health platform after the engineering is done. It's the whole structure, or the whole thing fails. The three T's and two C's I use to size up any digital health tool turn out to be close to a design spec. Time, because a vault of your whole health history takes patience to build, not a single import. Trust, built into governance rather than promised in marketing; TMOH's Data Sovereignty Covenant binds the board and investors to the same terms as everyone else, which is the only version of trust I believe in. Talk, because the point was never to replace the conversation with my clinician, it was to walk in more prepared for it. Control, because I decide what goes in the vault and who sees it, the same way I decide which of my own decisions I hand to a doctor or an AI and which ones I keep for myself. Connection, which no vault can manufacture, but a good one can make room for. I told Steve that AI found a pattern in my chart that twenty-five years of clinicians missed. That's not really a story about AI being smart. It's a story about who owned the data long enough to ask the question. That's the whole bet behind TMOH: put the owner at the center, and let the rest of the ecosystem, the networks, the vendors, the AI, earn its place around that. See you around the block. Practical AI in Healthcare Episodes https://open.spotify.com/episode/4wA4ltjmZfIZ5VpmTeTTOF?si=KbEvc2_ERNWakJ3JeP2Ddg https://open.spotify.com/episode/0LDetUFJJrSV1cy6LtpGFx?si=qAqoqKBBSNm9PiwPjSIXYA https://open.spotify.com/episode/0wXEm1KnnGorOvTt9GTh7o?si=K_DKXzGyThusBPA6KoVkCg https://open.spotify.com/episode/6krV94ob6Lcv7VNo0qahZ5?si=B6lZDkvsQ9y2Z2FhkXzQGQ Referenced in episode Patient data access history: “Introducing Blue Button Plus: The Next Generation in PHRs” — HealthIT.gov (Office of the National Coordinator for Health IT) — https://www.healthit.gov/blog/consumer/introducing-blue-button/ The “Gimme My Damn Data” campaign Danny references: “Gimme My Damn Data (and Let Patients Help!): The #GimmeMyDamnData Manifesto” — Dave deBronkart, Journal of Medical Internet Research — https://www.jmir.org/2019/11/e17045/ Amy Price, mentioned as a mentor in questioning and skepticism: “Welcoming Dr. Amy Price as Editor-in-Chief” — Society for Participatory Medicine — https://participatorymedicine.org/2024/welcoming-dr-amy-price-dphil-as-the-editor-in-chief-for-the-journal-of-participatory-medicine/ AI literacy for patients, the concept Steve names in the episode: “Critical AI Health Literacy as Liberation Technology: A New Skill for Patient Empowerment” — National Academy of Medicine — https://nam.edu/perspectives/critical-ai-health-literacy-as-liberation-technology-a-new-skill-for-patient-empowerment/ Human-in-the-loop research Danny and Steve discuss (Adam Rodman): “AI and the Evolution of Medical Thought with Dr. Adam Rodman” — NEJM AI Grand Rounds (podcast) — https://ai-podcast.nejm.org/e/ai-and-the-evolution-of-medical-thought-with-dr-adam-rodman/ Abridge, the ambient AI scribe tool Danny mentions using: “Pioneers in Generative AI for Healthcare” — Abridge — https://www.abridge.com/about The DCI Network conference where Danny met the hosts: “About DCI Network” — DCI Network, Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center — https://www.dcinetwork.org/about-us Please comment and ask questions: at the comment section at the bottom of the show notes on LinkedIn  via email YouTube channel  DM on Instagram, TikTok to @healthhats Substack Patreon Production Team Kayla Nelson: Web and Social Media Coach, Dissemination, Help Desk  Leon van Leeuwen: editing and site management Oscar van Leeuwen: video editing Julia Higgins: Digital marketing therapy Steve Heatherington: Help Desk and podcast production counseling Joey van Leeuwen, Drummer, Composer, and Arranger, provided the music for the intro, outro, proem, and reflection Claude, Perplexity, Auphonic, Descript, Grammarly, DaVinci Resolve, DaVinci AI Art Generator, OpenArt AI Creator Studio Inspired by and Grateful to: Steve Labkoff, Leon Rosenbilt, Amy Price, Leon and Oscar van Leeuwen, Laura Marcial Artificial Intelligence in Podcast Production Health Hats, the Podcast, utilizes AI tools for production tasks such as editing, transcription, and content suggestions. 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There's a reason marketing budgets are the first thing cut when a health system hits a hard quarter, and it's not because the work isn't valuable. It's because most marketing leaders are presenting their results in a language the C-suite doesn't speak.In this week's episode, Hedy & Hopp CEO & Founder Jenny Bristow gets into the specifics of how healthcare marketing leaders can walk into a board meeting and command the room — by ditching the marketing metrics and picking up the financial ones. Here's what's covered:The Three Financial Metrics the CFO Actually Cares About: Patient Acquisition Cost by service line replaces cost-per-lead with something the board can actually act on, like a precise price tag for bringing a new patient through the doors of a specific clinic. Contribution margin takes it a step further, showing the revenue generated by marketing-driven patients after accounting for the variable costs of their care. And service-line ROAS, broken down by high-margin procedures like cardiology, orthopedics, and neurology, replaces blended averages with numbers that actually mean something to a CFO. The shift in language is everything.Building the Executive-Ready Dashboard: The golden rule of board presentations: if a slide takes five minutes to explain, it's already lost. The three-column framework simplifies everything: the input (marketing spend by service line), the output (EHR-verified new patient encounters), and the impact (contribution margin and estimated lifetime value). Anchor it to your organization's current strategic plan and your dashboard becomes a strategic alignment tool.The Defensive Play — Framing the Cost of Inaction: The most powerful thing a marketing leader can do when budgets are on the table is reframe the conversation. A 20% budget cut isn't "saving money,” it's ceding market share to the competitor down the street. Show the historical correlation between reduced ad spend and the downstream drop in high-margin elective procedures, and give leadership a real choice: "We can reduce spend by 20% to hit this quarter's cost-cutting goal, but our models show this will result in a $150k drop in surgical contribution margin next quarter."Connect with Jenny:Email: jenny@hedyandhopp.comLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennybristow/If you enjoyed this episode, we'd love to hear your feedback! Please consider leaving us a review on your preferred listening platform and sharing it with others.

What if your marketing budget isn't the real driver of high-value, loyal patients?When Dr. David Rominski looked back after selling one of the nation's largest physical medicine practices, a startling pattern emerged: their highest-value patients—the ones they loved serving and who boosted profitability—weren't coming from big ads or generic marketing efforts. They came almost exclusively through trusted relationships with other providers. In this episode, Dr. Rominski reveals exactly how that insight changed his entire approach to practice growth, leading him to create proven, repeatable systems for building a rock-solid referral network that reliably delivers ideal patients.Dr. Rominski breaks down the crucial steps specialists and practice owners need to take in their first 90 days to “own their numbers,” map current referral patterns using actual EHR data, and zero in on local providers who regularly see your best-fit cases. He shares practical tactics for becoming referral-worthy, including why real, in-person relationship-building outperforms emails, lunches, and flashy marketing folders every single time. You'll learn why connecting with everyone in the office matters (not just the doctors!), how to spot and nurture high-potential sources, and the simple but critical metrics that determine whether ongoing effort will pay off. If you're tired of chasing low-value leads and want steady, sustainable case growth, this episode will show you where to focus.What You'll Learn in This Episode:How to identify your most profitable diagnoses and patient types using EHR dataWhy the majority of top referrals come from specific provider relationships (not ads)The must-do steps for evaluating your current referral network in the first 90 daysPractical strategies for mapping your ideal market and building a consistent outreach planThe right way to approach referring offices (hint: it's not about you)The power of “full office” visits and why every staff member countsSimple, effective materials to leave behind on visits (and what to skip)How to track, evaluate, and grow your referral relationshipsWhen to keep pushing for more referrals and when to cut your lossesKey metrics to know if your efforts are really producing resultsReady to learn how to build a referral network that brings in your ideal patients without burning money on ineffective marketing? Listen to today's episode with Dr. Rominski!‍Sponsors:‍Oryx: All-In-One Cloud-Based Dental Software Created by Dentists for Dentists. Patient engagement, clinical, and practice management software that helps your dental practice grow without compromise. Click or copy and paste the link here for a special offer! https://thedentalmarketer.lpages.co/oryx/Click here for a special offer!Business Name: Referrals for DoctorsCheck out David's Media:Website: https://referralsfordoctors.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/doctor-referral-institute/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100068507172045‍Host: Michael AriasJoin my newsletter: https://thedentalmarketer.lpages.co/newsletter/‍Join this podcast's Facebook Group: The Dental Marketer Society‍Love the Podcast? Follow on Your Favorite App! https://lnkfi.re/TDMPod

Healthcare organizations have more data than ever before, but turning that data into actionable insights remains one of the industry's biggest challenges. In this episode of The Beat AI in Healthcare Podcast, host Sandy Vance sits down with Nabil Jallouli, CEO and co-founder of Rollstack, to discuss how AI-powered reporting is helping healthcare organizations simplify value-based care reporting, improve decision-making, and scale personalized reporting without overwhelming their teams. Nabil shares why dashboards alone are no longer enough, why executives need trusted narratives instead of raw data, and how healthcare organizations can automate reporting while maintaining governance, security, and accuracy. Whether you work in healthcare leadership, data analytics, customer success, value-based care, or digital transformation, this conversation offers practical insights into using AI responsibly to improve reporting and business outcomes.  In this episode, they talk about: Why value-based care requires an entirely different approach to healthcare reporting The hidden "last mile" problem between business intelligence dashboards and executive decision-making Why healthcare organizations struggle with manual reporting despite major investments in analytics platforms How AI can automate repetitive reporting while keeping humans focused on strategy and relationships The importance of governance and trusted data in healthcare AI Why executives rarely spend more than a few seconds reviewing dashboards How personalized reporting improves payer, provider, and customer relationships The role of automation in scaling reporting across hundreds of healthcare partners Measuring ROI from AI reporting solutions and why reporting automation often delivers significant business value Why healthy skepticism around AI is actually helping healthcare adopt better long-term solutions How Rollstack protects sensitive healthcare data with enterprise-grade security and zero data retention policies What healthcare leaders should prioritize as AI adoption continues to accelerate A Little About Nabil: Nabil Jallouli is the co-founder and CEO of Rollstack, an enterprise platform helping companies like SoFi, Zillow, and Whirlpool automate their data-driven presentations and documents. Rollstack leverages deep integrations with leading business intelligence tools (Tableau, Power BI, Looker, and others) and AI to streamline reporting processes, including business reviews, EHR and HCP reporting, financial reporting, and client presentations. By eliminating manual copy-paste, reducing errors, and ensuring accuracy, Rollstack enables organizations to operate more efficiently and focus on decision-making rather than document preparation. The company is backed by Y Combinator and Insight Partners and is fully SOC 2 Type II and HIPAA compliant, meeting the highest standards of security and data protection for enterprise and healthcare customers. Before founding Rollstack, Nabil built his career leading data analytics and revenue strategy teams at Pinterest, Deel, and Groupon. Across these experiences, he observed a common problem: highly skilled professionals spending countless hours preparing slides and reports instead of focusing on high-value work and strategy. This recurring pain point ultimately inspired the creation of Rollstack. Nabil holds a Master of Engineering and dual Bachelor's degrees in Mathematics, Physics, and Computer Science from École Centrale Paris.

In this episode, host Sandy Vance chats with Timothy Bennett, the Director of Strategic Healthcare Initiatives at Drummond Group, LLC, for his second appearance on the show. With nearly 20 years at Drummond and deep roots in ONC certification testing dating back to 2010, Tim brings a rare long-view perspective to one of the most important questions facing healthcare interoperability today: how do you actually test whether FHIR works at scale in the real world, not just in a proof-of-concept connectathon? This episode introduces FHIRplace, Drummond's new community-driven testing ecosystem, and digs into why business process rules, not just technical standards, are the real challenge standing between FHIR's promise and its production reality.  In this episode, they talk about: FHIRplace brings together providers, payers, technology vendors, and intermediaries to test FHIR implementations at real-world scale Testing conformance to a standard is not the same as proving true interoperability between systems Business process rules, like what documentation a health plan requires for prior authorization, sit outside the technical standards but are critical to real-world success Intermediaries are central to FHIRplace's testing model because point-to-point FHIR exchange is not feasible across millions of providers and thousands of health plans FHIRplace captures raw transaction data flowing through intermediaries to evaluate real-world interoperability issues, not just lab conditions HIPAA currently requires X12 for prior authorization, meaning a full replacement by FHIR will take years and likely result in a long-term hybrid approach FHIRplace plans to integrate with conformance tools like Inferno so members can get interoperability testing and standards validation in one place Drummond intends FHIRplace to be a 20-year testing ecosystem, not a short-term solution built around a single regulatory deadline A Little About Timothy: Timothy Bennett serves as Drummond's Director of Strategic Healthcare Initiatives and leads the development of new testing and certification programs to benefit the national healthcare interoperability strategy. As the former director of the firm's ONC Accredited Test Lab (ATL), he has been involved in testing electronic health records (EHR) systems since the ONC program's inception in September 2010 and has additionally served as the test lab's lead technical adviser. Prior to healthcare compliance testing, Timothy facilitated numerous interoperability test programs, specifically the design of secure and private exchange of documents and information using internet and security standards. With a degree in nuclear engineering from the Georgia Institute of Technology, he has been instrumental in developing, architecting, and testing software systems for more than 30 years.  Timothy is a governing board member of Shift, a task force of industry stakeholders working through the barriers of equitable interoperability by addressing the obstacles of privatized patient health data exchange. He is actively developing testing and certification protocols for the Fast Healthcare Interoperability Resources (FHIR) standard in order to provide the market with comprehensive FHIR certification across the healthcare ecosystem. He also actively collaborates with industry leaders in the areas of testing and certifying healthcare compliance of pediatrics, patient safety and usability, FHIR and public health. Finally, Timothy was the principal author of the OASIS AS4 standard, a profile of the ebXML Messaging Services v3.0 specification for secure and private exchange of data using web services.

What happens when the founder of Mint.com takes on one of healthcare's most broken experiences—patient communication? In this episode of Bright Spots in Healthcare, Eric Glazer sits down with Aaron Patzer, Founder and CEO of Vital, to explore how simplicity, clarity, and human-centered design can drive real impact in healthcare. Drawing from his journey building Mint, Aaron shares why most healthcare technology misses the mark, how better communication improves outcomes and ROI, and what leaders must do to design experiences people actually use. The conversation goes deep on: Why simplifying complexity—not adding more tech—is the real innovation How better patient communication drives measurable ROI for hospitals What healthcare leaders can learn from consumer tech about trust, adoption, and engagement The leadership principles Aaron relies on when innovating inside highly regulated, slow-moving systems If you're a healthcare leader navigating digital transformation, AI investment decisions, or experience strategy, this episode offers clear thinking, hard-earned lessons, and proof that when you make it easier for people to understand what's happening, everything works better.   References: Book Reference - The Design of Everyday Things by Don Norman About Aaron: Aaron Patzer is a renowned entrepreneur, engineer, and innovator best known as the founder of Mint.com, the personal finance platform that revolutionized money management for millions of users. After launching Mint in 2007, Patzer led it to rapid success, growing the user base to over 25 million and overseeing its acquisition by Intuit in 2009. A passionate advocate for user-centered design and simplicity in complex systems, Patzer built Mint.com by combining his technical acumen with a deep understanding of user experience and behavioral finance. He holds degrees in Electrical Engineering, Computer Science, and a Master's from Princeton University. Following Mint, Patzer continued to push boundaries in tech and health innovation. He co-founded Vital, a healthcare startup focused on improving hospital emergency room, urgent care, and inpatient experiences using AI and design thinking. Ranked by KLAS as #1 in patient experience, Vital achieves concrete results: 30–50% fewer LWOBS/AMA, 10–15% higher NPS, stronger HCAHPS scores, reduced ED bounce- back, and 10% lower 30-day readmissions. Designed to integrate seamlessly with existing EHR systems, Vital provides a user-friendly interface that engages patients, resulting in 60%+ adoption rates, 5-10x higher than the competition. View our product overview. Partner with Bright Spots Ventures: If you are interested in speaking with the Bright Spots Ventures team to brainstorm how we can help you grow your business via content and relationships, email hkrish@brightspotsventures.com   About Bright Spots Ventures: Bright Spots Ventures is a healthcare strategy and engagement company that creates content, communities, and connections to accelerate innovation. We help healthcare leaders discover what's working, and how to scale it. By bringing together health plan, hospital, and solution leaders, we facilitate the exchange of ideas that lead to measurable impact. Through our podcast, executive councils, private events, and go-to-market strategy work, we surface and amplify the "bright spots" in healthcare—proven innovations others can learn from and replicate. At our core, we exist to create trusted relationships that make real progress possible. Visit our website at www.brightspotsinhealthcare.com. Visit our website:  www.brightspotsinhealthcare.com. Follow Bright Spots in Healthcare: https://www.linkedin.com/company/shared-purpose-connect/  

Every clinician knows food shapes health. The evidence has been there for decades. So why does nearly every food as medicine program in America still run on grant money with an expiration date? Dr. Yousuf Ahmad has spent 30 years inside the system, running hospitals, leading a health plan, building health tech, and he watched nutrition sit on the sidelines of care the entire time. Now, as President and CEO of AssureCare, he's behind NutraVance, a platform built to move nutrition out of the pilot graveyard and into real clinical workflows: screening, EHR integration, culturally personalized meal plans, outcome tracking, and the piece nobody wants to talk about, reimbursement.Corey and Yousuf get into the five things that were missing all along, how AI personalizes nutrition without leaving under-resourced communities behind, what this looks like inside an FQHC, why every hospital needs a chief affordability officer, and what has to change so a heart failure patient never again leaves a hospital without a nutrition plan.If you've ever watched a program your patients loved disappear when the funding ran out, this conversation is for you.☕ Tell us what you thought of this episode and get a Healthy Project coffee mug: https://forms.gle/W6fqYUcJPsuHYjad8What we cover:The moment Yousuf realized nutrition was never part of central caregiving across hospitals, health plans, and physician practices (00:59)Why a sick-care system that reimburses treatment can't see the value of prevention (04:01)The proof of value problem: the 3-to-1 ROI argument Yousuf makes to health plan CEOs (06:22)The five missing pieces that killed every food as medicine program: screening, workflow integration, personalization, measurement, and reimbursement (09:07)How AI personalizes nutrition to culture, budget, and multiple chronic conditions without deepening bias against already disadvantaged communities (12:32)What NutraVance looks like inside an FQHC, where 32 million Americans get their care (16:45)Why every hospital and health plan needs a chief affordability officer (18:13)Who pays for food as medicine today, and who should: Medicare, Medicaid, and the payers writing the checks (19:32)The 10-year vision: a healthcare system that asks for your nutrition plan the way it asks for your insurance card (22:12)Yousuf's leadership advice: the difference between motion and progress (34:11)About the guest:Dr. Yousuf J. Ahmad, DrPH, is President and CEO of AssureCare, a Cincinnati-based population health technology company. He previously served as President and CEO of Mercy Health in Cincinnati, leading a $3 billion integrated health system. AssureCare's newly launched NutraVance platform brings nutrition assessment, care planning, personalized meal planning, patient engagement, and reimbursement workflows into a single system embedded in clinical care.Links:Learn more about NutraVance and AssureCare: assurecare.comDiscover mission-driven podcasts on Goodfeed: goodfeed.coFollow The Healthy Project on all platforms and subscribe so you never miss an episode.Before you go, I want to put you on to something I'm excited about. GoodFeed is a curated discovery platform for mission-driven podcasts, built to connect shows like this one with the listeners, funders, and organizations who care about the same work. It's in private preview right now, and you can join the waitlist at goodfeed.co! Hosts, funders, nonprofits, and listeners are all welcome in the first cohort.  ★ Support this podcast ★

What if sales isn't about convincing people—but making it easier for the right patients to say yes? In part two of Dr. Lauryn's July From the Vault series, sales expert Nikki Rausch explains how better conversations, clearer invitations, and confident follow-up can help practice owners work toward making an extra $50,000 by the end of 2026—without becoming pushy, scripted, or fake.Nikki breaks down her five-step Selling Staircase, from creating curiosity and building rapport to discovery, proposal, and closing the sale. She shares how to ask better questions, recognize buying signals, gain permission before presenting a solution, reduce decision fatigue with clear closing language, and use circle-back calls when someone needs more time. This episode is a practical guide to treating sales as communication, leadership, and service.Key TakeawaysSuccessful sales begin with rapport. Adjusting your communication style, listening carefully, and asking thoughtful questions can make prospective patients feel understood instead of pressured.Follow the five-step Selling Staircase. Introduction, curiosity, discovery, proposal, and close provide a clear framework for moving conversations forward without prematurely jumping to the offer.Make the buying decision easier. Ask permission before presenting a solution, use direct closing language such as “Which do you prefer?” and give the other person space to process and respond.Follow up without chasing people. Scheduling a specific circle-back call can dramatically improve conversions, while a prospect who refuses the follow-up can be respectfully “blessed and released.”About the GuestNikki Rausch is the CEO of Sales Maven, a sales training and coaching company that helps entrepreneurs and service-based business owners sell with confidence, kindness, and credibility. With nearly 30 years of sales experience, Nikki began her career in the technology and audiovisual industries, becoming a top-producing sales representative and working with organizations including Hewlett-Packard, the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, and NASA. Since founding Sales Maven in 2013, she has become known for making the sales process simple, strategic, and authentic. Nikki is also an author and the host of the Sales Maven Podcast, where she shares practical strategies for improving sales conversations and closing more business without feeling pushy or fake.Follow Nikki: Facebook | Instagram | LinkedInListen to Nikki's podcast, Sales Maven: Apple | SpotifyClosing the Sale ebook for free: https://yoursalesmaven.com/slays Resources:Rich Doc Summer Series: A FREE summer training lineup for docs ready to use AI, systems, and strategy to create more freedom from the clinic. Register for one, two, or all three. Add 30-day replay access for $47 for all 3.Find all things Dr. Lauryn B including ways to work with herFollow Dr. Lauryn: Instagram | Facebook | LinkedInFollow She Slays on YouTubeMentioned in this episode:Clinic MindClinic Mind is the all-in-one EHR and practice management platform built for chiropractors — billing, documentation, scheduling, and patient follow-up in one place, whether you run a cash practice, take insurance, or are scaling to multiple locations. She Slays the Day listeners get an exclusive offer.Clinic MindHolistic Marketing HubThis episode is sponsored by Holistic Marketing Hub. Created by marketing strategist Molly Cahill, it's a proven Instagram system with a 500+ caption content library and a step-by-step curriculum that's helped 400+ chiropractors, acupuncturists, and other health pros fill their practices with right-fit patients. Enroll Now!Holistic Marketing HubINSiGHT CLAThis episode is brought to you by the INSiGHT scanning system from CLA, the tool that helps chiropractors show patients objective neurological data so the value of care becomes clear, fueling conversion, retention, and growth. She Slays listeners get preferred pricing, affordable financing, and a free Getting Into Scanning guide.CLA (Current)

Kim Tzoumakas is the CEO of VytlOne, the nation's only independent, fully integrated total pharmacy solutions partner — the century-old company formerly known as Maxor, which she rebranded and merged with ProxsysRx in a fast-moving transformation after taking the helm in January 2025. VytlOne partners with mission-driven hospitals and health systems, combining pharmacy operations, 340B management, specialty pharmacy, pharmacy benefit management, and patient affordability solutions to help nonprofit providers unlock revenue and reinvest in their communities — work that generated $1.4 billion for its pharmacy partners in a single year. Its newest bet is VytlAIQ, an end-to-end intelligence platform built ground-up (not grafted onto a legacy system) that connects clinical, pharmacy, payer, and financial data into one real-time platform, surfacing next-best actions and checking every 340B claim for eligibility and documentation so problems get caught before they cost providers money. Kim came to pharmacy the long way around — two decades as a healthcare attorney embedded in hospitals and health systems, then CEO of RAYUS Radiology and 21st Century Oncology. Her core conviction is that 340B isn't a loophole to be abused or a relic on its way out; it's critical infrastructure that lets nonprofit health systems reinvest in patient care, and the real failure is that the tools serving it stayed reactive, fragmented, and manual. VytlOne's bet is that AI belongs in pharmacy not to replace clinical judgment or wipe out teams, but as an intelligent partner that tears down the administrative barriers — prior auth, denied claims, missing documentation — standing between a patient and their medication. The test of success: a patient who simply feels their care move faster and never once thinks about the software behind it.We discuss:Why the first thing Kim checks in any business isn't the P&L — it's the boards, the ownership model, and financial stability that determine whether a CEO can actually win — and what twenty years as a healthcare attorney inside hospitals taught her to seeThe real story on 340B: why the "it's going away" prediction has been wrong for thirty years, why the program is now evolving faster and getting more complex, and the one scenario where hospitals genuinely are in the wrong — double-dipping on rebatesHow you build a product when the rules might change next quarter — launching VytlAIQ right as the courts threw out the 340B rebate model, and why VytlOne built it from the ground up with pharmacists at the table instead of stitching together what already existedWhy most health-system dashboards get built and then ignored — and what makes a platform a pharmacist and a CFO will actually act on: one centralized, real-time source feeding the EHR that tracks every claim all the way through to payment receivedWhat you can't afford to break when you rebrand and merge a hundred-year-old company fast — protecting the culture and the people who gave decades to the organization while still turning the cornerThe uncomfortable truth for a CFO who's been burned by vendors — why pharmacy teams reflexively say "we already do that," where the skepticism about third parties really comes from, and how to turn a ten-million-dollar opportunity into a win-win instead of a threatWhere the line sits between what AI should decide versus only suggest in pharmacy — why it should never make a clinical or licensed decision — and the legal risks Kim sees as tech players rush into healthcare without understanding the guardrails, patient risks, or regulatory historyWhat Kim learned mentoring veterans through the Pat Tillman Foundation about fear of failure and hard choices — and the five-years-out test for VytlAIQ: a patient in specialty or chronic care who simply feels faster access to their medication and never connects it back to the software—Brought to you by: Sage Growth Partners — Value-focused strategy and marketing for growth-driven healthcare organizations. — Where to find Jared: • X: https://x.com/jaredstaylor • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jaredstaylor/

Who should you network with depending on your ideal client base? Should you have a "meet the team" tab on the website? What criteria should you use for choosing your EHR? In this update on building Great Lakes Online Counseling, Joe Sanok and Jen share the latest progress as the practice prepares to welcome its first clients. While growth has slowed slightly in recent weeks, they focus on refining the client experience, strengthening the practice's brand, and planning strategic networking efforts. A major milestone is that Rachel, the practice's first clinician, is now fully onboarded and ready to begin seeing clients. With her availability added to the calendar, prospective clients can start booking appointments through the practice.  

What do doctors need to hear right now if they want to make an extra $50,000 by the end of 2026? To kick off this July series, Dr. Lauryn is pulling from the vault to revisit the conversations that answer that question from different angles. And before we get into strategy, sales, systems, or scaling, we have to start with the thing quietly driving all of it: your relationship with money.In this conversation, Dr. Lauryn sits down with financial expert Hilary Hendershott to unpack money mindset, scarcity, self-worth, pricing, profit, and the “money operating systems” that shape the way business owners earn, spend, save, and sell. They discuss why your practice numbers often reveal your beliefs about money, how guilt and shame can sabotage profit, and why becoming financially empowered requires both practical numbers and deeper emotional awareness.Key Takeaways:Your money mindset is not just personal—it shows up directly in your practice numbers, pricing, sales conversations, debt, profit, and ability to grow. If your money operating system is built on scarcity, guilt, or self-worth, your business will reflect it.Financial health requires both the technical side of money and the emotional side of money. Hilary explains why business owners need to understand their numbers while also healing the patterns that keep them undercharging, overspending, or avoiding money conversations.Profit matters more than appearances. Big revenue, high volume, and flashy success metrics mean very little if the practice is not actually creating savings, stability, and long-term financial independence.Your ability to receive more money often depends on your comfort level with pricing, selling, and being seen as successful. When docs detach their self-worth from their numbers, they can make clearer, more empowered business decisions.Guest Bio:Hilary Hendershott is an MBA, Certified Financial Planner, founder and chief advisor of Hendershott Wealth Management, a fee-only fiduciary financial advisory firm helping women and couples build, invest, and protect their wealth. With more than 20 years of experience, Hilary blends practical financial strategy with money mindset work to help clients reduce financial stress, grow long-term wealth, and feel more empowered in their financial lives. She is also the host of Love Your Money, where she shares honest conversations and actionable advice around investing, financial freedom, and creating a healthier relationship with money.To follow or find ways to work with Hilary, visit her LinktreeResources:Find all things Dr. Lauryn B including ways to work with herFollow Dr. Lauryn: Instagram | Facebook | LinkedInFollow She Slays on YouTubeMentioned in this episode:Clinic MindClinic Mind is the all-in-one EHR and practice management platform built for chiropractors — billing, documentation, scheduling, and patient follow-up in one place, whether you run a cash practice, take insurance, or are scaling to multiple locations. She Slays the Day listeners get an exclusive offer.Clinic MindHolistic Marketing HubThis episode is sponsored by Holistic Marketing Hub. Created by marketing strategist Molly Cahill, it's a proven Instagram system with a 500+ caption content library and a step-by-step curriculum that's helped 400+ chiropractors, acupuncturists, and other health pros fill their practices with right-fit patients. Enroll Now!Holistic Marketing HubINSiGHT CLAThis episode is brought to you by the INSiGHT scanning system from CLA, the tool that helps chiropractors show patients objective neurological data so the value of care becomes clear, fueling conversion, retention, and growth. She Slays listeners get preferred pricing, affordable financing, and a free Getting Into Scanning guide.CLA (Current)