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In hour four, recapping the electric vibes at the Panthers parade yesterday. We loved Paul Maurice sporting his cats on his t-shirts again leading to Hoch bringing out his cat - Rocky.
On this episode of The Steve Dangle Podcast, 00:00 The Leafs are the 2nd best team 07:00 The Florida Panthers win back to back Stanley Cups 27:00 Is this all Stuart Skinner's fault? 48:00 Knoblauch and McDavid 57:00 Bennett, Tkachuk, and Evander Kane 1:06:00 Paul Maurice and partying Panthers 1:18:00 McDavid's next deal 1:22:00 Rempe vs Robertson 1:23:00 Z-Bad hasn't waived yet 1:24:30 Will the Islanders trade to get Hagens? 1:32:30 Tage Thompson is shocked 1:40:00 Marchand to the Leafs? 1:51:00 Harrison Browne joins us to talk about their new book, "Let Us Play: Winning the Battle for Gender Diverse Athletes." Find it on Amazon, Indigo, or at your local bookstore. Visit this episode's sponsors: Get Exclusive NordVPN deal here ↣ https://nordvpn.com/DANGLE It's risk- free with Nord's 30-day money back guarantee!
The Stanley Cup has been awarded (not to Corey Perry - again), and the NHL offseason has officially begun. Tune in as we open by discussing Patrick Kane's future with the Detroit Red Wings, Kane and Steve Yzerman both expressing mutual interest in Showtime continuing in Hockeytown, Toronto Maple Leafs fans setting themselves up for disappointment hoping he's a Mitch Marner replacement, how Kane fits with Alex DeBrincat, Marco Kasper, Dylan Larkin, and Lucas Raymond, & more (4:15). After that, we discuss potential depth forward targets for Steve Yzerman, including former Detroit Red Wings like Anthony Mantha, Andreas Athanasiou, Pius Suter, Robby Fabbri, & more to add to Todd McLellan's squad (16:15). Next, our analysis of the Stanley Cup Finals as the Florida Panthers made seemingly easy work of Connor McDavid, Leon Draisaitl, and the Edmonton Oilers. Do the Oilers need to get a goalie? How can the league copy Paul Maurice's squad when they have guys like Barkov, (Conn Smythe winning) Sam Bennett, Marchand, Tkachuk, and Bobrovsky? (36:25) Finally, NHL news including Troy Terry maybe being available from the Anaheim Ducks (alongside John Gibson?), upcoming CBA news (56:10), and our 2025 NHL Draft Prospect Profile as we revisit Jackson Smith (1:01:15) before we take your questions and comments in our Overtime segment (1:10:50) - enjoy! Head over to wingedwheelpodcast.com to find all the ways to listen, how to support the show, and so much more! Go to TempoMeals.com/WINGEDWHEEL for 60% off your first box! #ad Go to KoffeeKult.com and use code WWP for 15% off your order! #ad Support the Jamie Daniels Foundation through Wings Money on the Board: https://www.wingedwheelpodcast.com/wingsmotb
(00:00-15:09) Clearing The Deck. Jackson's questions. Can you say you "read" a book if it was an audio book? I'll take it black. Straight mud, baby. You don't have to announce it. Jackson does NOT ready Hardy Boys or Nancy Drew. Boatin' up to Quincy. Don't say loose meat.(15:17-25:47) What about the Thriller album, bro? We found the sweet spot. Audio of Panthers coach Paul Maurice on the ice after winning his second straight Stanley Cup. Gloria, Pink Pony Club, and the Six Flags song. Nice question, Uggo. Why are we being talked down to so much?(25:57-32:54) Your taste is in your patoot. We need to come with a Surgeon General's warning. MLB Trade Deadline top 30 players in a Post Devers world. No Cardinals on the list.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
The FAN Morning Show is live from Glen Abbey Golf Club for the 2025 Joe Carter Classic. Ben & Brent kick off discussing the Stanley Cup Final, where the Panthers defeated the Oilers to repeat as champions. They highlight Sam Reinhart's four goals, the series impact of Brad Marchand, and MVP Sam Bennett, along with injury updates on key Florida players and head coach Paul Maurice's legacy. Later, they touch on the Blue Jays' thrilling comeback win and the Giants introducing Rafael Devers (31:20).The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily reflect the position of Rogers Sports & Media or any affiliate.
On this episode of The Sick Podcast, Panthers senior advisor to the GM Paul Fenton joins Pierre McGuire and Jimmy Murphy to discuss the Florida Panthers' 2nd straight Stanley Cup championship, having to replace the losses of Brandon Montour and Oliver Ekman-Larsson, how the Brad Marchand trade came about, Paul Maurice's invaluable contributions, the Panthers' incredible ownership and much more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Tobin gives us our latest headlines as we get pumped for Game 6! We take time to drink the TNT broadcast's tears as they "Weep" for the Oilers Windy reports Suns unhappy with all current offers for Kevin Durant Leroy Laughs at the arrogance of the New York Knicks We review the offers on the table for KD and determine what it will take to reel in the big fish Is acquiring Durant as simple as the HEAT giving up Kel'El Ware? Are we witnessing the new standard in the NBA in regards to managing 3 superstars Stephen A. Caught in 4k! The world renowned sports analyst is caught playing Solitaire during the NBA finals He then Lies about the timing of his unfortunate photo We discuss how bad of a look this is for him and the NBA Panthers speaking at the moment, we peak into the presser Mathew Tkachuk speaks on Bobrovsky's value and how he was told there was 50% chance he'd miss playoffs Tkachuk describes the home town support Paul Maurice speaks on winning the Day and Marchand's highlight reel goals Marcos Mixed Bag! The Legend of Cam Ward grows Tyrese Haliburton describes Lebron's "Unc" behavior Sam Reinhart gets us pumped for Game 6
It just takes one more win. Taking a 3-2 lead in the Stanley Cup Final, the Florida Panthers looked dominate at both ends of the ice during a 5-2 win over the Edmonton Oilers in Game 5 at Rogers Place on Saturday. On this episode of Territory Talk, co-hosts Doug Plagens and Jameson Olive share their thoughts on how Game 5 unfolded, the one-two punch of Brad Marchand and Sam Bennett, the challenge of closing out the series in Game 6 and much more. Plush, hear postgame sound from Paul Maurice, Marchand and Bennett. Highlights include: • The Panthers were on a mission in Game 5. (1:15) • Aleksander Barkov is doing all the little things right. (10:00) • Hear from Maurice, Bennett and Bobrovsky after Game 5. (13:20) • Marchand and Bennett are both beasts in the Cup Final. (23:15) • Looking ahead to Game 6. (28:30)
It's 2025 NHL Entry Draft Rankings time! Tune in as we begin by going over 1st round draft rankings (who will Steve Yzerman have available for the Detroit Red Wings at 13th overall?) from both Brad Krysko and newest WWP contributor, "LGRWProspects" (Zak Egan - check out his full rankings here: https://www.wingedwheelpodcast.com/post/2025-nhl-draft-rankings) - rankings listed below. (3:35) We then discuss whether it's better for Yzerman to trade the 13th overall pick to move up or get help on forward for Larkin, Raymond, DeBrincat, Kasper, and Kane, or on defense to aid Seider, Edvinsson, Sandin Pellikka, and Johansson (18:15). After that, Vladimir Tarasenko's name being on the trade block, an update on Dmitri Buchelnikov, and more goaltending depth behind Sebastian Cossa and Trey Augustine added to the system (25:50). Next, an update on the Stanley Cup Final as Bennett, Tkachuk, and Paul Maurice's Panthers sent McDavid, Draisaitl, Bouchard, and the Oiler off the deep end in game 3 (35:55). Then, NHL awards updates as Lane Hutson wins the Calder and Cale Makar wins the Norris (45:45) and a look at the NHL trade and free agency landscape, as names like Jason Robertson, Alexis Lafreniere, Bowen Byram, K'Andre Miller, William Karlsson, and many more are floating around (51:45). All of that & lots more before we take your questions and comments in our Overtime segment (1:03:35) - enjoy! Head over to wingedwheelpodcast.com to find all the ways to listen, how to support the show, and so much more! This episode is brought to you by Hims. Visit hims.com/wingedwheel for your personalized hair loss treatment options. #ad Go to KoffeeKult.com and use code WWP for 15% off your order! #ad Support the Jamie Daniels Foundation through Wings Money on the Board: https://www.wingedwheelpodcast.com/wingsmotb Brad's Rankings: 1. Misa 2. Schaefer 3. Hagens 4. Desnoyers 5. Frondell 6. Martone 7. O'Brien 8. Martin 9. Reschny 10. Eklund 11. McQueen 12. Mrtka 13. Carbonneau 14. Bear 15. Smith 16. Aitcheson 17. Reid 18. Potter 19. Lakovic 20. Cootes
We Raid the Algorithm to listen to a Brian Wilson story, Anita Baker slowed down, and the Florida Panthers head coach Paul Maurice cracking jokes during an in-game interview.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Ben & Brent are diving into the Blue Jays, MLB's best team over the last 31 games, as they aim for another series win. They discuss last night's game, highlighting manager John Schneider's praise for different players stepping up each night, and debate the season MVP. The focus then shifts to pitching, covering closer Jeff Hoffman and starter Chris Bassitt. They also preview Game 3 of the NBA Finals and touch on the Pacers naming streets after players, as well as Giannis trade rumors. Finally, they address Rod Brind'Amour's comments about not shaking hands after losing to Paul Maurice and the Panthers (26:34).The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily reflect the position of Rogers Sports & Media or any affiliate.
Ben Maller talks about the Florida Panthers routing the Edmonton Oilers in Game 3 of the Stanley Cup Final and Connor McDavid saying the Oilers haven't played their best yet, but it's coming. Florida coach Paul Maurice's pivot when talking about Sam Bennett's free agency, and more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
On this episode the boys are joined by head coach of the Carolina Hurricanes and Stanley cup champion Rod Brind'Amour. He talks about criticism over playoff losses, the Mikko Rantanen situation, his conversation with Paul Maurice and more. Check out our Sponsors!
In hour one, we're live at Amerant Bank Arena for Game 3! Unbelievable story about the Ticket Wizard showing up wildly underdressed to Crowder's father's memorial. Brad Marchand delivers a memorable Panthers moment with the Game 2 overtime winner. Solana praises Coco Guaff for her Roland Garros title. Plus, Josh Appel discusses the benefits of Paul Ball and why Bobrovsky has been so successful under Paul Maurice.
Friday afternoon means a fresh episode of Oilersnation Radio is ready to be enjoyed. On today's podcast, the fellas discussed the Edmonton Oilers' Game 1 win over the Florida Panthers, depth scoring, Leon Draisaitl's dominant performance, Kasperi Kapanen, Game 2, and much more.We kicked off the Friday episode of ONR with a delicious debate about Game 1 and whether there were any surprises from the Oilers or Panthers. Whether it's the Florida blue line being a touch slower than expected or the way Paul Maurice utilized his bench, there were some details in the game that no one expected from the Florida Panthers. That said, we all know the Panthers are going to be much better than they were on Wednesday, and that will be a significant challenge for the Oilers. Finally, we wrapped up the Friday episode of ONR with another round of Ask the Idiots, betting talk for our friends at bet365, and Hot and Cold Performers to look back on the week. After punching their ticket to the Stanley Cup Final, the guys spent the bulk of the Friday episode talking about why we should feel confident heading into this rematch against Florida, and how the Oilers are a much different hockey team this time around. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
In hour two, Paul Maurice's response about Nosek's critical mistake last night is why we love him. Doug Plagens finds an Earl of Sandwich in Edmonton launching Hoch into a HIGHLY CONTROVERSIAL take about Publix Subs. Plus, Crowder admits to waterboarding himself to sleep. After, Mike Cugno joins the show live from Edmonton to recap Game 1 and discuss whether the Panthers should feel pressure heading into Game 2.
The TV voice of the Panthers joins the show to talk about the ending to game 1, Paul Maurice's comments, and how they can bounce back.
We're doing things a little differently today. We started off hour two with Kind Of Easy Trivia. Three Questions Too Many from Park Mazda followed Kind of Easy Trivia. After the update, it was time for I Got Beef presented by Acme Meat Market. To finish off hour two, it was time for Reid Wilkins! Reid Wilkins gave his thoughts from last night's game, gave some love to a few Oilers, touched on Knoblauch's choice to challenge. Then switched gears to the other side to discuss how Paul Maurice has handled the Panthers.
In this edition of 32 Thoughts, Kyle Bukauskas and Elliotte Friedman look ahead to the Stanley Cup Final between the Edmonton Oilers and the Florida Panthers.In the second half of the podcast, Kyle and Elliotte sit down with several people from media day in Edmonton. Hear from Panthers Head Coach Paul Maurice (18:38), Panthers goaltender Sergei Bobrovsky (30:34), Oilers forward Corey Perry (38:14), and Oilers goaltender Jeff Skinner (46:35).Email the podcast at 32thoughts@sportsnet.ca or call the Thought Line at 1-833-311-3232 and leave us a voicemail.This podcast was produced and mixed by Dominic Sramaty and hosted by Elliotte Friedman & Kyle Bukauskas.The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily reflect the position of Rogers Sports & Media or any affiliates
(00:00-21:42) Trading the Battlehawks for the Chiefs. We got Kansas City beat in golf courses, take that Kansas City. Jackson's never played St. Louis Country Club. Joss Stone. Audio of Andre Pallante talking about what went wrong last night. Matz tipping pitches last night? Jackson doesn't get out to Fenton and Gravois Bluffs much.(21:51-36:19) Mmmbop. Finally getting around to Thibs. Audio of Mad Dog and Francesa with conflicting reports on the Knicks and Thibs firing. Jay Wight? Danny Hurley? Jackson's not taking the bait. Doug is sideways with Gooner Reloaded.(36:29-51:23) Family Band Wednesday. The Gallup Poll on the TMA Twitter asking if you'd trade the Chiefs for the Battlehawks is tight. Audio from Paul Maurice talking Game 1 of the Stanley Cup Final rematch. Trent Frederic talking about Matthew Tkachuk. Hand up, that's my bad. Workshopping a deal with NYC.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Riley Cote and Derek Settlemyre break down the Stanley Cup Final, Noah Cates, Tyson Foerster and Helge Grans' contract extensions, the Flyers reportedly hiring Yogi Svejkovsky as a new assistant coach, Paul Maurice and Rod Brind'Amour handshake debate, Dallas Stars rumors, Jonathan Toews comeback attempt, and more!Nasty Knuckles is a Baller Sports Network production, created by co-hosts, Riley Cote and Derek "Nasty" Settlemyre. The show will feature a mix of interviews, never before heard story-telling, hockey-talk, and maybe some pranks... The guys will bring in some of the biggest names in the hockey world all for your enjoyment! Make sure to check back every week as the guys release a new episode weekly!►Click here to shop our latest merch: nastyknuckles.com/shop► Follow the show on Twitter: https://twitter.com/NastyKnuckles► Follow Riley Cote on Twitter: https://twitter.com/rileycote32► Follow Riley Cote on Instagram: https://instagram.com/rileycote32► Follow Derek Settlemyre on Twitter: https://twitter.com/dnastyworld► Follow Derek Settlemyre on Instagram: https://instagram.com/dnastyworld Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
The Stanley Cup Final is upon us and Bob Stauffer takes you through the headlines entering Game 1. Plus, audio from Coach Knoblauch, Zach Hyman, Adam Henrique, Paul Maurice and Brad Marchand. Plus, a look around the NHL during NHL Today with Brenden Escott. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Jamie McLennan was the first guest on today's show! He first touched on McDavid and what he expects to see from him, gave the scouting report on Segei Bobrovsky and what makes him so good, shared what the coaches will be saying before each and every game. Jamie finished with some players he thinks will surprise in this series. Right after Noodles, Dusty gave his Early Bird Bet of the day presented by Play Alberta! After the first update, we got right into Free Advice for Damon Bunting! The very wise Dave Jamieson was very adviceful today. Eric Macramalla finished off hour two today. He gave his thoughts on Paul Maurice, what the vibe is like out East ahead of the Stanley Cup Final and briefly touched on this series as well.
On this episode of The Sick Podcast, Eric Engels joins Tony Marinaro to discuss why Nick Suzuki is following along in Alexander Barkov's footsteps, striking similarities between the 2 star players, similarities in how Martin St-Louis and Florida Panthers head coach Paul Maurice see the game, what the Habs are missing to be able to build a long-term contender like the Panthers and much more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
The Detroit Red Wings have one of the deepest prospect pool in the NHL, but how many of those are destined to don the Winged Wheel in Hockeytown vs. continuing with the Grand Rapids Griffins in the AHL next season? Tune in as we discuss potential Detroit Red Wings rookie season and which players may join the likes of Dylan Larkin, Lucas Raymond, Marco Kasper, Alex DeBrincat, Patrick Kane, Moritz Seider, Simon Edvinsson, and the rest of Todd McLellan's squad: Nate Danielson, Sebastian Cossa, Carter Mazur, Michael Brandsegg-Nygard (4:55), Axel Sandin Pellikka, Amadeus Lombardi, William Wallinder, Shai Buium (40:30), & more. Next, a Stanley Cup Playoffs update, including Paul Maurice and Rod Brind'Amour's weird handshake dispute, Pete DeBoer throwing Jake Oettinger under the bus, and our Stanley Cup Final predictions as Connor McDavid, Leon Draisaitl, and the Edmonton Oilers rematch against Matthew Tkachuk, Sergei Bobrovsky and the Florida Panthers (54:30). Finally, we circle our 2025 NHL Draft Prospect Profiles back to Jake O'Brien and Roger McQueen: could either talented pick be available to Steve Yzerman at pick 13, or would he have to trade up to get them (1:11:45)? All of that & lots more before we take your questions and comments in our Overtime segment (1:22:15) - enjoy! Head over to wingedwheelpodcast.com to find all the ways to listen, how to support the show, and so much more! Go to TempoMeals.com/WINGEDWHEEL for 60% off your first box! #ad Go to KoffeeKult.com and use code WWP for 15% off your order! #ad Support the Jamie Daniels Foundation through Wings Money on the Board: https://www.wingedwheelpodcast.com/wingsmotb Buy PLAY F*****G HOCKEY Merch: https://www.wingedwheelpodcast.com/shop
The Head Coach of the Panthers joins us before heading out to Edmonton to discuss his team's mindset and the opportunity in front of them with a chance to repeat.
In hour three we discuss some of the Dolphins news surrounding Jalen Ramsey and Jonnu Smith with Pete Prisco and Coach Paul Maurice gets us set for the Final rematch between his Panthers and the Oilers.
Fresh off of his First Goal of the Post season, Evan Rodrigues joins the guys! We discuss the Physicality this team plays with Evan discusses the amount of accountability the roster has with each other Leroy compares the nature of football players to that of this Cat's team Evan comments on the leadership of the team and how that trickles down the roster Evan discusses his ridiculous embellishment call and how shocked he was to be called for that E-Rod reveals how it felt to be one of the only players on the team who hadn't scored He gives us insight on how cohesive and supportive the team is We get a detailed description of Paul Maurice's message and how the team operates Evan talks about the shift from hunting to being the Hunted We finally get a description of Paul Maurice's "Sweet Saucin" comments and its secret meaning We get insight on Paul's coaching style and applying the right message at the right time Evan attempts to define the term "Punitive Skate" The guys get an extremely hot take on the way out from ole E-Rod
The Miami HEAT interviewing NBA Champion & Euro Cup winning Coach What does this mean for our Head Coach and the members of our staff Frogboy continues his hot streak of dumb takes as he continues to replace spo on the sidelines Canes lose first game of double elimination series Just when we thought we were free, Frog Boy Kidnaps the Show yet again We find out the truth about Sergei Bobrovsky's EXTREME weight loss Frogboy refuses to admit he was wrong Fresh off of his First Goal of the Post season, Evan Rodrigues joins the guys! We discuss the Physicality this team plays with Evan discusses the amount of accountability the roster has with each other Leroy compares the nature of football players to that of this Cat's team Evan comments on the leadership of the team and how that trickles down the roster Evan discusses his ridiculous embellishment call and how shocked he was to be called for that E-Rod reveals how it felt to be one of the only players on the team who hadn't scored He gives us insight on how cohesive and supportive the team is We get a detailed description of Paul Maurice's message and how the team operates Evan talks about the shift from hunting to being the Hunted We finally get a description of Paul Maurice's "Sweet Saucin" comments and its secret meaning We get insight on Paul's coaching style and applying the right message at the right time Evan attempts to define the term "Punitive Skate" The guys get an extremely hot take on the way out from ole E-Rod
(HR.1) Frogboy's bad takes Kidnap Hour 1: Does Spo have to go? Bobrovsky's Truth EXPOSED The Miami HEAT interviewing NBA Champion & Euro Cup winning Coach What does this mean for our Head Coach and the members of our staff Frogboy continues his hot streak of dumb takes as he continues to replace spo on the sidelines Canes lose first game of double elimination series Just when we thought we were free, Frog Boy Kidnaps the Show yet again We find out the truth about Sergei Bobrovsky's EXTREME weight loss Frogboy refuses to admit he was wrong Fresh off of his First Goal of the Post season, Evan Rodrigues joins the guys! We discuss the Physicality this team plays with Evan discusses the amount of accountability the roster has with each other Leroy compares the nature of football players to that of this Cat's team Evan comments on the leadership of the team and how that trickles down the roster Evan discusses his ridiculous embellishment call and how shocked he was to be called for that E-Rod reveals how it felt to be one of the only players on the team who hadn't scored He gives us insight on how cohesive and supportive the team is We get a detailed description of Paul Maurice's message and how the team operates Evan talks about the shift from hunting to being the Hunted We finally get a description of Paul Maurice's "Sweet Saucin" comments and its secret meaning We get insight on Paul's coaching style and applying the right message at the right time Evan attempts to define the term "Punitive Skate" The guys get an extremely hot take on the way out from ole E-Rod (HR.2) The Financial side of Football The guys attempt to determine who the "Bacon Burger Bandit" is on the Panthers Leroy tries to fix tanking and the spread of young talent in MLB Tobin explains why the Marlins haven't found success with drafting Drew Rosenhaus, Agent of Jonnu Smith, opens up on the tight end's contract situation The guys read between the lines in regards to Drew's statement on his client Tobin and Leroy dive into the financial side of Football Saquon Barkley selected to be on the Cover of this year's Madden We do our yearly Madden Curse Coverage to determine if Saquon will be the next victim!? Is there a Dolphin you would risk putting on the Cover? Leroy hands out his Game Ball and Game Bums Sasha Barkov receives 2 Trophies in one Day Not only did he win an award for his Philanthropy he was also voted as best defensive forward in Hockey In 2nd place? Fellow Panther Sam Reinhart Tobin and Leroy preview the Finals matchup (HR.3) HEAT attempting to save face after latest Chris Quinn report? Tobin gives us latest headlines HEAT looking to hire a new coach with an extensive background? Shams reports Chris Quinn out of race for Head Coaching position What does this mean for the HEAT and their hunt for a replacement Sergei Bobrovsky discusses what he loves about Paul Maurice We get back into the debate concerning Bobrovsky's rumored weight loss per game Marcos refuses to accept the evidence We close the Hour out with a Marcos Mixed Bag The Enhanced Games are 1 year away and already we're seeing ridiculous body transformations Stefon Diggs finds himself in a bit of a beef with Rap star Offset over his latest Squeeze Cardi B We educate ourselves on the mysterious pink Substance Diggs was recently seen with (HR.4) Famous Coaching Tree's across the 4 Major Sports We give our honest opinion on the Happy Gilmore trailer Tobin gives us our latest headlines We get an update on the HEAT's hunt for a new assistant Coach We go through Coaching trees to determine whether or not Spo has one Is Spo Too Hands on to have a coaching tree? What does this say about the Heat Head Coach We close the Show out with "Alright!, Oh No!" Barky Racks up the awards
Ryan Gilbert and Joel Meyer react to the Florida Panthers defeating the Carolina Hurricanes and the handshake line situation between Paul Maurice and Rod Brind'Amour. They then discuss the Edmonton Oilers getting past the Dallas Stars and Pete DeBoer's decision to pull Jake Oettinger. Finally, they close out the show looking at the Conn Smythe Trophy targets for the Oilers and Panthers.Subscribe to the Hockey Gambling Podcast (Apple | Spotify | YouTube)Follow Ryan Gilbert on TwitterFollow the Hockey Gambling Podcast on Twitter Exclusive SGPN Bonuses And Linkshttp://linktr.ee/sportsgamblingpodcastFollow The Sports Gambling Podcast X/Twitter - https://x.com/GamblingPodcastInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/sportsgamblingpodcastTikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@gamblingpodcastFacebook - http://www.facebook.com/sportsgamblingpodcastFollow The Sports Gambling Podcast HostsSean Green - http://www.twitter.com/seantgreenRyan Kramer - http://www.twitter.com/kramercentricGambling problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER CO, DC, IL, IN, LA, MD, MS, NJ, OH, PA, TN, VA, WV, WY Call 877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY) Call 1-800-327-5050 (MA)21+ to wager. Please Gamble Responsibly. Call 1-800-NEXT-STEP (AZ), 1-800-522-4700 (KS, NV), 1-800 BETS-OFF (IA), 1-800-270-7117 for confidential help (MI)
Ryan Gilbert and Joel Meyer react to the Florida Panthers defeating the Carolina Hurricanes and the handshake line situation between Paul Maurice and Rod Brind'Amour. They then discuss the Edmonton Oilers getting past the Dallas Stars and Pete DeBoer's decision to pull Jake Oettinger. Finally, they close out the show looking at the Conn Smythe Trophy targets for the Oilers and Panthers. Subscribe to the Hockey Gambling Podcast (Apple | Spotify | YouTube)Follow Ryan Gilbert on TwitterFollow the Hockey Gambling Podcast on Twitter Exclusive SGPN Bonuses And Linkshttp://linktr.ee/sportsgamblingpodcastFollow The Sports Gambling Podcast X/Twitter - https://x.com/GamblingPodcastInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/sportsgamblingpodcastTikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@gamblingpodcastFacebook - http://www.facebook.com/sportsgamblingpodcastFollow The Sports Gambling Podcast HostsSean Green - http://www.twitter.com/seantgreenRyan Kramer - http://www.twitter.com/kramercentricGambling problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER CO, DC, IL, IN, LA, MD, MS, NJ, OH, PA, TN, VA, WV, WY Call 877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY) Call 1-800-327-5050 (MA)21+ to wager. Please Gamble Responsibly. Call 1-800-NEXT-STEP (AZ), 1-800-522-4700 (KS, NV), 1-800 BETS-OFF (IA), 1-800-270-7117 for confidential help (MI)
The Stanley Cup Final is set, and we have an epic rematch between the Florida Panthers and Edmonton Oilers. Before we get there, the gang shares their wins and fails of the week, including a golden goal from Team USA, the Carolina Hurricanes finally winning an Eastern Conference Final game, and a take that has aged incredibly poorly from Ethan. Then, Bob Wischusen of ESPN joins us to recount some old stories from the early days of Florida Panthers hockey, recap the Western Conference Final between the Oilers and Dallas Stars, and share his prediction for the Cup Final. Finally, the group discusses Paul Maurice's reluctance to participate in the handshake line before sharing their predictions for who will hoist Lord Stanley. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
In this edition of 32 Thoughts, Kyle Bukauskas and Elliotte Friedman discuss the Edmonton Oilers clinching their second straight Western Conference Final after defeating the Dallas Stars in Game 5. They analyze Edmonton's chances against the Florida Panthers in a repeat of last year's Stanley Cup Final (14:37). The Final Thought focuses on the post-game exchange between Paul Maurice and Rod Brind'Amour regarding coaches joining the handshake line (24:53).Kyle and Elliotte answer your questions, comments, emails, and voicemails in the Thought Line (33:43).In the News & Notes segment, Kyle and Elliotte talk about Brad Treliving's end-of-season media availability and Mitch Marner's future (47:53). They discuss what's in store for the Carolina Hurricanes (57:52). The fellas also cover the Seattle Kraken's hiring of Lane Lambert as their next head coach (1:06:27). They delve into the remaining head coaching vacancies in Pittsburgh and Boston (1:09:14). They check in on the New York Rangers as changes are set to come for the Blueshirts (1:12:14). Finally, they talk about the PR mess the Washington Capitals had to deal with on Thursday (1:14:06).Email the podcast at 32thoughts@sportsnet.ca or call the Thought Line at 1-833-311-3232 and leave us a voicemail.This podcast was produced and mixed by Dominic Sramaty and hosted by Elliotte Friedman & Kyle Bukauskas.The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily reflect the position of Rogers Sports & Media or any affiliates
In hour three, shedding light on how important Barkov has been despite his play going largely unnoticed. Solana shares a questionable decision he made yesterday at gas station. Have you ever called the number on a car's “how am I driving” sticker? Debating whether Sandy Alcantara ever win another game in the big leagues. The worst impersonation in the history of radio. Plus, more on the Panthers dominance from Appel and why Zito AND Paul Maurice are the perfect GM-Coach tandem.
Tobin is in Mock Draft mode as the NBA draft approaches We take a look at a few prospects with Local ties Would the Suns be interested in putting together a deal for Kevin Durant? Frog boy is unimpressed with the talent slated to fall in Miami Tobin assigns our favorite stool pigeon a homework assignment for next week PK Subban admits Panthers don't have a weakness Tobin goes through a Paul Maurice wormhole as he begins to build up for the final Our Show Pony paints the picture of a Stanley Cup Finals Rematch Connor McDavid discusses the path ahead for him and the Oilers Paul Maurice gives us another loveable quote from our Favorite Head Coach We're getting fired up for another deep Panthers Run! Marcos Mixed Bag! Tyreek Hill to compete in Olympics? Geno Smith gives us an update on Ashton Jeanty Jim Irsay's Bizarre Collection
(HR.1) Vice Shirt Friday! Stanley Cup rematch Set Vice Shirt Friday! Stanley Cup rematch Set. We run through the schedule for the Stanley Cup Tobin refuses to pump the brakes on his Panthers Hype Train The guys foreshadow Oilers heavy media coverage during this Finals Run The Dolphins apparently shopping Jonnu Smith to the Steelers? Tobin and Leroy break down the reason behind the shocking trade update What does this say about the Dolphins and their mentality this year Are Dolphins trying to do things on the "Cheapskies"? Tobin and Leroy discuss Dolphins roster moves that align with this move We continue to dive in to the potential of a Jonnu Smith trade Is Chris Grier the ultimate survivor? or the Common Denominator? Tobin attempts to dive into the mind of ownership to justify this trade financially Jonnu Smith to the Steelers? (HR.2) Notorious Columnist adds to his Career long collection of Cringe Notable Journalistic pest Gregg Doyel manages to piss off Pascal Siakim After answering a piss poor question from the pest, Pascal fires back at the notorious columnist We take a trip down Doyel's history and find it hard to not cringe The John formerly known as Cougar Mellencamp goes toe to toe with fellow Pacers Fan Pat McAfee Cougs blasts Pat for dropping a Promo aimed at Knicks Celebrity Fans before Game 4 Mellencamp preaches better sportsmanship from his fellow Hoosier Family We attempt to tickle Leroy's Fancy! Slim Pickings this week as we struggle to Tickle Leroy's Fancy *Beef amongst Pacers Fan Royalty (HR.3) Mock Draft Season in the NBA? Tobin is in Mock Draft mode as the NBA draft approaches We take a look at a few prospects with Local ties Would the Suns be interested in putting together a deal for Kevin Durant? Frog boy is unimpressed with the talent slated to fall in Miami Tobin assigns our favorite stool pigeon a homework assignment for next week PK Subban admits Panthers don't have a weakness Tobin goes through a Paul Maurice wormhole as he begins to build up for the final Our Show Pony paints the picture of a Stanley Cup Finals Rematch Connor McDavid discusses the path ahead for him and the Oilers Paul Maurice gives us another loveable quote from our Favorite Head Coach We're getting fired up for another deep Panthers Run! Marcos Mixed Bag! Tyreek Hill to compete in Olympics? Geno Smith gives us an update on Ashton Jeanty Jim Irsay's Bizarre Collection (HR.4) Tyreek Hill on the Chopping Block? Is it true that Sergei Bobrovsky loses between 15-20 punds PER GAME? Frog Boy regurgitates yet another Instagram Article with no Valid sources Tobin and Leroy pepper frog boy with questions in an attempt to discredit his journalistic integrity Mike Florio is keeping his eye on a Dolphins trade package revolving around Tyreek Hill Florio explains why he feels Cheetah may be on the move Tobin and Leroy discuss the Market for the formerly disgruntled Wide receiver The guys decide whether or not it would be worth attempting to salvage something from Tyreek's value Are the Dolphins better off just holding on to the Talent instead of seeking a trade partner We close out with Ya Dead to Me!
TSN Host James Duthie joined OverDrive to discuss the Oilers seeking a berth in the Stanley Cup Final, the Panthers looking for the win, Paul Maurice not in the handshake line perspective, the list of the best Stanley Cup teams in the NHL, the Canadian Screen Awards experience, winning the Best Sports Host and more.
The Florida Panthers are going to the Stanley Cup Final for a third-straight year after a comeback win in Game 5 eliminated the Carolina Hurricanes. We discuss how they got here and Paul Maurice's handshake line antics after the game. Plus, we discuss the state of Florida's recent dominance in the NHL and just how much taxes change the game. Steve "Petey" Peters joins the show as well to discuss what he's seeing on film. 0:00 Welcome to What Chaos!8:18 Ovi's last year9:44 Panthers!!!22:00 Maurice & the handshake line31:30 JEFF!!!!!!38:00 Petey joins!57:18 Not Ovi's last year BUY OUR MERCH: https://store.allcitynetwork.com/collections/what-chaos JOIN OUR DISCORD: https://discord.gg/3brHQ2q5V2 Follow us on Twitter:https://twitter.com/WhatChaosShowhttps://twitter.com/DJ_Beanhttps://twitter.com/PeteBlackburnhttps://twitter.com/shawn_depaz VIVID SEATS is offering an exclusive discount on Playoff tickets! Head to https://www.vividseats.com/nhl-playoffs-tickets--sports-nhl-hockey/performer/1144?utm_source=impact&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=ALLCITY%20NETWORK&utm_promo=2A5Q91Y32KAWS2R or download the Vivid Seats app and use promo code CHAOS30 for $30 off your first ticket purchase of $300 or more. SHADY RAYS: Head to https://shadyrays.com and use code: AC35 for 35% off polarized sunglasses. Try for yourself the shades rated 5 stars by over 300,000 people. FACTOR MEALKITS: Head to https://factormeals.com/whatchaos50 and use code whatchaos50 to get 50% off! PrizePicks - Download the PrizePicks app today and use code WHATCHAOS for to get $50 instantly when you play $5. PrizePicks. Run your game! https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/WHATCHAOS HelloFresh - Get 10 FREE meals at https://hellofresh.com/freechaos. Applied across 7 boxes, new subscribers only, varies by plan. Hall of Fame App: Get a 7-Day Free Trial + 50% Off your first month with code CHAOS. Just download the HOF app on iOS and Android or visit hofbets.com, enter code CHAOS, and you're all set.
The Florida Panthers are headed to their third straight Stanley Cup Final after rallying past Carolina in Game 5, continuing the state of Florida's Eastern Conference dominance. Carter Verhaeghe scored the winner, showcasing the value of patience and great scouting. An awkward handshake moment between coaches Paul Maurice and Rod Brind’Amour sparked debate about who belongs in the post-series tradition. In the West, the Oilers prepare for Game 5 against Dallas with Mattias Ekholm expected to return from injury but Zach Hyman is likely out for the remainder of the playoffs. Evander Kane and Corey Perry could see increased icetime to try and offset the loss of Hyman as they have both impressed so far in these playoffs. 'Tis the season for Conn Smythe chatter, a year with no clear favourite emerging, but McDavid, Bouchard, Barkov, and Tkachuk are all in the mix. Could a goalie surprise?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
We kick off the hour continuing our Cats Celebration The Gang listens back to all the Goals that lifted us to Victory Brad Marchand speaks after the victory and continues his incredible run Paul Maurice discusses the "Post Game Handshake" and his feelings on it as a tradition Will others follow suit after seeing Paul Maurice start a trend? Tobin reads a few Salty Tweets from Hockey Fans blasting Paul Maurice for not shaking hands We take a look at Ben Stiller's Career after he complains about Pat Macaffee
(HR.1) Panthers reach 3rd Straight Stanley Cup Finals! The guys celebrate the Panthers reaching their 3rd straight Stanley Cup Finals! After a slow start the Cats Pile it on in the 3rd to take a lead An incredible performance from the Panthers sends out Cats to Finals in Gentlemanly fashion Leroy does an Autograph signing mid segment as Omar Kelly forces his hand David Dwork describes the Atmosphere in Carolina as the Panthers advance for the 3rd straight year Hockey Hornet David Dwork gives us details about the Panthers Business as usual mindset Frog Boy throws a speed bump in the interview when attempting to bring back his "Better than Big 3" take Toronto Whines about state tax in an attempt to catch up with the Cats We interpret Randy Moellers 1 word tweet "Bob" David and the Guys reflect on yet another excellent performance from Sergei Bobrovsky We reflect on the Chemistry Brad Marchand has had with the team David Dwork describes the perfect fit Marchand has been The guys praise Bill Zito's impeccable run and how he's made 0 wrong moves in the past 5 years David shines when discussing his meeting with "Hootie" at yesterday's Panthers game We hear the Final Call from yesterday's Panther's game Cats Fans call in to get their Cat Fever Diagnosed (HR.2) Tobin demands Tobin and Leroy reflect on the final tense moments of the matchup between the Canes and Panthers We then turn our attention to a Key Penalty Kill and clutch 2nd period by the Cats Leroy reveals the 2 most upsetting things in sports for him Tobin informs us why we should hate Matt Larkin and all those complaining about State Tax We praise the Gangster that is Bill Zito We do a deep dive to determine where exactly our state tax benefit has been helping us Tobin blasts Toronto and labels them as a "tortured" Fan base What could be a first in show history, Tobin gets the Goosies over Cap Space Tobin is tired of haters like Matt Larkin attempting discredit the Cats Tobin wants more respect for his team while Leroy refuses to value respect given by critics The guys get into a patented quibble about how important the public perception of the Cats is or not Who is the most recent player that we did not want, but still ended up working out We jog our memory on the brief history of Greg Oden in a HEAT Uniform Marcos Mixed Bag - Tyreek Hill makes Leroy Blow a Gasket (HR.3) Paul Maurice keeps it even Keel following their Gentlemen's sweep of the Hurricanes Maurice discusses the magic behind Barkov's beautiful move to set up Carter for the win Goosies or No Goosies! Mike McDaniel on Tua and the mastering of his Skill Evan Rodrigues getting the puck after Anthony Edwards saying he's not hurt by playoff exit because he's only 23 (HR.4) We kick off the hour continuing our Cats Celebration The Gang listens back to all the Goals that lifted us to Victory Brad Marchand speaks after the victory and continues his incredible run Paul Maurice discusses the "Post Game Handshake" and his feelings on it as a tradition Will others follow suit after seeing Paul Maurice start a trend? Tobin reads a few Salty Tweets from Hockey Fans blasting Paul Maurice for not shaking hands We take a look at Ben Stiller's Career after he complains about Pat Macaffee
Paul Maurice keeps it even Keel following their Gentlemen's sweep of the Hurricanes Maurice discusses the magic behind Barkov's beautiful move to set up Carter for the win Goosies or No Goosies! Mike McDaniel on Tua and the mastering of his Skill Evan Rodrigues getting the puck after Anthony Edwards saying he's not hurt by playoff exit because he's only 23
Nick Kypreos and Justin Bourne are joined by Ed Jovanovski (3:50), former NHL defenceman and Panthers TV analyst to chat about Florida's return to the Stanley Cup Final after taking down the Carolina Hurricanes, Sam Bennett and Seth Jones' impact on the roster, the differences between the 2024 winning team, and what went wrong for the Canes. Then, Nick, Justin and Sam McKee touch on Paul Maurice's disagreement with Rod Brind'Amour after the game. Afterwards, Hockey Night in Canada's Craig Simpson (29:52) weighs in on the Edmonton Oilers' ability to outscore the Dallas Stars, Mattias Ekholm's playoff debut, the Stars' roster flaws and their chances to come back in the series.The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily reflect the position of Rogers Sports & Media or any affiliates.
Should Steve Yzerman go get a German friend for Moritz Seider? Tune in as we discuss J.J. Peterka and his potential availability in a trade from the Buffalo Sabres, how the young German star would bolster Todd McLellan's offense and join the Detroit Red Wings forward core of Dylan Larkin, Lucas Raymond, Marco Kasper, Alex DeBrincat, and Patrick Kane, what he would cost in a trade (Nate Danielson? Axel Sandin Pellikka or Michael Brandsegg-Nygard?) and more. Also, Noah Dobson to potentially help Seider, Simon Edvinsson, and Johansson, Marco Rossi as an alternative to Peterka, & more trade targets for Yzerman to Bring to Hockeytown (3:40). Next, a final wrapup of the IIHF World Championships as Erik Gustafsson, Eduards Tralmaks, Raymond, Kasper, Seider, and Edvinsson make statements (33:00) before our Stanley Cup Playoffs update, including Paul Maurice's hilarity & Connor McDavid, Evan Bouchard, & Leon Draisaitl continuing to frustrate Rantanen, Hintz, and the Stars (39:15). Finally, our 2025 NHL Draft Prospect Profile on Ivan Ryabkin, the Muskegon Lumberjacks star - worth the risk or "Do Not Draft"? (52:05) All of that & lots more before we take your questions and comments in our Overtime segment (1:00:50) - enjoy! Head over to wingedwheelpodcast.com to find all the ways to listen, how to support the show, and so much more! Go to TempoMeals.com/WINGEDWHEEL for 60% off your first box! #ad Go to KoffeeKult.com and use code WWP for 15% off your order! #ad Support the Jamie Daniels Foundation through Wings Money on the Board: https://www.wingedwheelpodcast.com/wingsmotb Buy PLAY F*****G HOCKEY Merch: https://www.wingedwheelpodcast.com/shop Harman's Article: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6380402/2025/05/27/nhl-restricted-free-agent-trade-candidates-2025/
Paul Maurice gives us a positive update on the Health Status of a few Key Contributors We revisit J-Figs Birderer backstory Shams sends out a prediction concerning the Chaotic nature of this upcoming NBA Offseason Zion Williamson sweepstakes gets an update as the trail goes cold Tobin's Petty whaling has him yelling at Pat Riley and the HEAT A Pessimistic Pony looks ahead to what he sees as a failed road ahead for the HEAT Dolphins practice ends and Omar Kelly commends the team for their Physicality Leroy blasts us for falling into the trap of premature Mike McDaniel all but fires the media team with this statement
(HR.1) Haliburton revenge tour rages on Hootie betrays us on behalf of the Hurricanes, but Tobin explains why he's not worried Top Hats and Monocles for each and every conference series across two sports Ben Stiller joins Tobin's list of Sad Knicks Fans he loves to watch Tyrese Haliburton keeps his revenge tour going strong as he puts up historic numbers vs Knicks We preview tonight's Panthers game briefly as we attempt to cure our errors from Game 3 OKC looks to close out the Wolves in 5 games Tobin is glad that Knicks are going out in Sad Fashion The Oilers are pounding the Stars into submission, Shaping for a Stanley Cup rematch Frogboy returns as agile as ever Tobin turns our attention to a tearful Marlin The guys find out the hard way that there is indeed Crying in Baseball Panthers look to make Carolina more "uncomfortable" in Game 5 Leroy warns us of a desperate Hurricane team Paul Maurice tells it like it is We hear Wise words from the Panthers Head Honcho (HR.2) Dolphins OTA's in Full Swing! Fins enter "Phase 2" Haliburton continues to prove the critics wrong after posting a 30pt Triple Double to go along with 0 turnovers Tyrese continues to re-write his story transforming himself from All-Star to Superstar We preview the potential matchups in the NBA for the NBA Final Dolphins OTA's in Full Swing! Jalean Phillips and Ethan Bonnor earn simultaneous Orange Jersey's JP releases a Goosies Filled Statement all but declaring his return Fins enter "Phase 2" Leroy gives us the recipe for success for the Dolphins Terry Bradshaw joins the Aaron Rodgers Hate club led by our very own Leroy Hoard Marcos Mixed Bag! Knicks players tired of playing in front of celebrities (HR.3) Drake Robbed! Eminem secures the AMA for Best Hip Hop Artist this year The Injury Bug has bitten the Oilers hard as they lose a key piece of their puzzle Frog Boy claims to be anointed by Harry Potter Jalen Ramsey update: Mike McDaniel insists there's no changes on his status Tobin gives his suggestions as to how McDaniel should have handled questioning on Ramsey Rats off a Ship! Wil Demar DeRozan be joining the HEAT this off season? Will the Knicks come back from being down 3-1 Do we have faith in a 46 yr old Manny Pacquio? (HR.4) Paul Maurice gives us a positive update on the Health Status of a few Key Contributors We revisit J-Figs Birderer backstory Shams sends out a prediction concerning the Chaotic nature of this upcoming NBA Offseason Zion Williamson sweepstakes gets an update as the trail goes cold Tobin's Petty whaling has him yelling at Pat Riley and the HEAT A Pessimistic Pony looks ahead to what he sees as a failed road ahead for the HEAT Dolphins practice ends and Omar Kelly commends the team for their Physicality Leroy blasts us for falling into the trap of premature Mike McDaniel all but fires the media team with this statement
(00:00-14:06) Happy Birthday, Jadakiss. Doug had some grilled chicken on pizza. Shuffleboard. The Carolina Hurricanes staving off elimination. Audio of Paul Maurice talking about Bob The Goalie. Shotgunning beers at church. Audio of Rod Brind'Amour talking about breaking their 15 game Conference Finals losing streak. Why is Chairman dressed like a NASA scientist?(14:14-34:55) Can you have abs in your fifties? Brad Thompson joins us and he likes food too much for abs. Cards get a sweep of the Diamondbacks but drop the first game in Baltimore. Dylan Carlson. The possibility of the Yankees being interested in Nolan Arenado. Energy in the fan base.(35:05-00:00) Left Eye would have been 54 years old today. Jackson doesn't shoot off fireworks. They sure shoot em off in Wentzville. Martin wants to meet the people at The Dotem this week. Fans calling for a Doggies walk out. Changeable skies.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Shot gunning a beer in Church? Paul Maurice makes this analogy when describing his team in post game comments. Can the Panthers get the gentlemen's sweep tomorrow! We find out the truth, as Marchand tells the truth about what he was really eating during that second intermission. SPOILER ALERT! It wasn't Dairy Queen. Tobin gets into his Mixed Bag SGA free throw merchant, Ant struggling, and wise words from Bob. JFig hates on Shakira, with some karaoke from Tobin.
Leroy opens with a very underwhelming story about a turtle in his pool. The crew dives into the Panthers' sluggish 3-0 loss to the Canes and whether the Cats can bounce back. It's time for Game Balls and Game Bums, plus Brittney tries (and fails) to sell Tobin on F1 — he's not here for the vroom vroom. Hour Tua gets spicy with a heated debate over why Liam Eichenberg is still on the team. Is an anti-bullying campaign against Tobin in order? Tyreek Hill says he's back "in the lab" — but is he committed to Miami? Tuesday means it's time for “Damage is Done,” with shots at Giannis, Knicks fans, and more F1. Paul Maurice drops a “shotgunning beer in church” analogy after the Panthers' loss, and we finally learn what Marchand was really eating during intermission. Tobin's Mixed Bagn hits on SGA's free throws, Ant's struggles, and Bob's wisdom. Things spiral as JFig trashes Shakira (karaoke included), and the crew argues whether “Hips Don't Lie” is bigger than any Taylor Swift song. Oh — and Dolphins are now banned from banging the Panthers' drum. Who should replace them? Plus: Alright Oh No, Memorial Day madness, JFig v. Tobin, and even more F1.