The Allplane Podcast

Ivar Aune is the CEO of SiriNor, a company working on an electric jet engine.Yes, you read that right! While most electric aircraft projects aim to power a propeller, SiriNor is going for the very technology that powers most of today's commercial aviation industry.After all, a modern jet engine works by making a turbine spin. But while conventional jets rely on a combustion process that produces very high temperatures, SiriNor aims to replace that bit with an electrically-powered mechanism.The result: cheaper, easier to build engines which are as performing as conventional ones.All of this is still some time into the future, since SiriNor is still, by most measures, a young startup. However, Ivar's team has already tested successfully one of its electric jet engines on the ground and it is aiming to have some certified and commercially-ready models for UAVs and ground-effect-vehicles within the next couple of years.If this sounds ambitious, you haven't heard it all yet, because the ultimate goal is to be able to apply the electric jet engine technology to larger aircraft, potentially even the A320/B737-sized airliners that are the workhorses of today's aviation industry. A rather tall order, indeed, but Ivar, who spend the earlier part of his career in the Norwegian oil and gas industry, has no doubts about the need for the aviation industry to make bold bets if it is to remain, over the next decades, the engine of growth that it has been to this day.So tune in for a fascinating conversation about a truly promising, and rather intriguing, technology that has been, pretty much, kept under wraps until very recently!

Wizz Air takes pride in having the lowest carbon footprint per passenger and kilometer in the airline industry, 52g, number that it expects to bring further down as it renews the fleet with larger, denser and more efficient aircraft.But fleet renewal alone won't do the trick. In fact, “fleet” is just one of the three “Fs” that the pan-European ultra-low-cost airline relies on to get to Net Zero by 2050, even in a context of growing air traffic.“Footprint”, that is, efficiency improvements in the way aircraft are operates, is another, relatively minor “F” in this vision. But the bulk of the carbon reduction will rest upon the massive use of sustainable aviation fuel (SAF).Since production of SAF is currently small, Wizz Air has decided to take a proactive stance and become a direct investor in a number of innovative SAF projects, one of the most promising of which is Firefly, a British startup that turns sewage into SAF.In this episode of the podcast, Yvonne Moynihan, head of ESG and sustainability at Wizz Air, and James Hygate OBE, founder and CEO of Firefly, share the (virtual) stage to explain this project in detail. We will talk about how Firefly technology works, how scalable it is and how does this project fit into Wizz Air's SAF-sourcing ans well as in the airline's broader decarbonization plans. Tune in for a fascinating chat about one of the most interesting SAF projects right now in Europe and how it will help Wizz Air strengthen its sustainability credentials even further…

In this episode of the podcast we welcome Amelia DeLuca, Chief Sustainability Officer at Delta Air Lines.Besides being one of the World's largest airlines, Delta, is also a very active player in the field of air travel innovation and decarbonization.Delta has committed to getting to net zero by 2050 with Sustainable Aviation Fuel (SAF) expected to play a big role in achieving this goal. To this end, Delta has signed a string of SAF deals across the US and is also working with SAF producers in several states to increase supply of this so-far scarce type of fuel. Delta intends to use 10% of SAF in its fuel mix by 2030 and to increase this figure to 35% by 2035. But this is not the only path to decarbonization that Delta is exploring. In fact, when it comes to sustainability, Delta is active on so many fronts that it has created the Delta Sustainable Skies Lab to gather all its sustainability-focused initiatives under one roof. Remarkably, just as Delta is marking its centenary, it is also actively investing in technologies that promise to re-shape the way to travel in the next 100 years. Two examples of this policy are Delta's is investment in leading eVTOL developer Joby Aviation and its strategic partnership with JetZero, a startup developing a revolutionary blended-wing-body aircraft concept capable of halving fuel consumption, all while redefining completely the passenger experience.So, tune in to listen to Amelia talking about all these exciting projects and explaining how they fit into Delta's vision of the future of commercial aviation!

Flynow is an Austrian eVTOL developer with big ambitions and, so far, a low media profile. But you can be sure that if you ever come across one of its eCopters, with its distinctive capsule-like, tail-less shape, it will catch your eye!Yvonne Winter, our guest in this episode of the podcast, is the co-founder and CCO of this startup, which aims to produce tens of thousands of electrically-powered eCopter eVTOLs, both for cargo and passenger transportation. The idea is that the eCopters will be automated fly so that costs go down to the point when eCopters become competitive with land transport.Despite being based at the foot of the Alps, it may be the Saudi deserts that may first see the eCopters in action, though, since Flynow is working with a local partner to produce and test these small aircraft in the Middle Eastern Kingdom.In our conversation, Yvonne enumerate the advantages of the approach Flynow has chosen and why she is confident the eCopter will soon be operating commercial missions, in Saudi Arabia first and then elsewhere. So, tune in for an interesting conversation about the no nonsense way to design an eVTOL: leveraging proven technologies, set for itself achievable goals and made small steps towards their fulfillment!

This episode has two exceptional guests because more often than not, innovation doesn't happen in isolation. Great successful products and services are those that fast achieve product-market fit and this is precisely what we are going to talk about here today.Our guests are Marc Allen, CEO of Electra, a US startup that is developing a hybrid-electric ultra-short take-off and landing aircraft capable of landing in incredibly short open spaces, and Tomislav Land, co-founder and CEO of Flyvbird, a startup airline based in Germany which aims to transform regional air travel with an on-demand capilar air mobility network.At this point, I must say that Tomislav is, actually, a veteran of this podcast, since he was here already in 2022 when Flyvbird was starting to take shape.Quite a few things have happened since then, so we do examine with Marc and Tomislav the current state of the industry, and talk about what the market is asking for right now.And while it is true that the market has cooled somehow when it comes to some of the most complex cleansheet aircraft projects from the point of view of technology, regulatory burdens and capital requirements, there is still plenty of appetite for advanced air mobility projects that are low risk, clean, safe and efficient.And Electra's EL9 aircraft, which is currently undergoing development and evaluation, among others, by the US military, seems to tick pretty much all these boxes. Marc will provide us with some insights about the current status of the project and the steps it is taking towards certification, while Tomislav will explain how it fits perfectly in Flyvbird's plans to build a new generation on-demand regional airline. Last but not least, both CEOs also talk about the ways they are collaborating to ensure success through the so much sough-after product-market fit.Tune in to learn more about one of the most non-nonsense cleansheet aircraft projects right now in the market!

Josef Kallo is a true sustainable aviation pioneer. He was already working on hydrogen-powered aircraft back in 2013, when few outside a small circle had heard about sustainable aviation or alternative propulsion technologies.Fast forward to 2021 and H2FLY, the company he has been leading for over a decade, made headlines after being acquired by Joby Aviation, one of the forerunners in the advanced air mobility race.During all this time, H2FLY has been steadily and quietly making strides in the field of hydrogen propulsion and, in September 2023, it made history be being the first to fly an aircraft on liquid hydrogen, a technology that poses some interesting technology challenges.What is H2FLY currently working on? What is the future of hydrogen-powered aviation? What role is H2FLY going to play in also powering the eVTOL revolution?Tune in for an in-depth conversation with one of the world's leading experts in hydrogen aviation, Josef Kallo!

Payments are an essential element of the airline business and one that is often overlooked by most people. But, have you considered the tech required by any international carrier to handle thousands of payments from all over the world, smoothly and instantly?In this episode, produced in partnership with CellPoint Digital, we delve into the topic of airline payments tech.Diego Pérez, VP Business Development for Latin America and CellPoint Digital, shares some insights about the different elements involved in an airline payment. He also explains what is payment orchestration, and why it matters if you wish to offer multiple payment methods to your customers.Diego will also share his experience working in the Latin American markets, a region of the world that stands out in the use of alternative payments, that is using methods and channels different from the classical credit card payment. This is also becoming increasingly relevant for airlines in other parts of the world, as Gen Z travellers show a preference for a diversity of payment methods. So, tune in to learn more about the trends that shifting the payment landscape and how technology is providing answers to them!

Kanika Tekriwal is the co-founder and CEO of JetSetGo, a company that has emerged, over the course of the last decades, as the major integrated executive aviation operator in India. JetSetGo provides a whole range of services in one of the world's most promising air travel markets, from operating its own private jet fleet, to MRO and charter services.The MEBAA executive aviation show, which took place in Dubai in December 2024 provided an excellent opportunity to catch up with Kanika (apologies beforehand for the sound quality, since this episode was recorded at the MEBAA venue!) and learn not just about the state of executive aviation in India, but also about a number of exciting innovative technologies which JetSetGo is planning to invest in.JetSetGo recently placed a substantial order for electrically-powered, ultra-short take off and landing (ultra STOL) aircraft from Electra.aero, of the US, and it is also evaluating the possibility of adding eVTOLs to its portfolio, with the intention of becoming an advanced air mobility pioneer in India.As you will realize during this conversation, in addiiton to being a successful entrepreneur, Kanika is absolutely passionate about the aviation industry and has a clear and ambitious goal to take JetSetGo to new heights!So, tune in for this impromptu, but also quite insightful and inspirational conversation with Kanika Tekriwal, of JetSetGo. It was a lot of fun!

Joshua Ng is a Director at Alton Aviation Consultancy, which, at the name implies, is a global consultancy firm serving the aviation industry with actionable analysis, advice and recommendations.Being based in Singapore, Joshua has a rather advantageous viewpoint on the sustainable aviation developments taking place across the Asia-Pacific region, a part of the world that has the capacity to move the needle when it comes to decarbonizing the skies.This is a matter that generates plenty of headlines, but if we look beyond the buzz, what are the most pressing concerns that occupy the minds of decision makers? Which technologies does Alton Aviation Consultancy see as the most likely winners in the transition towards sustainability? What are the perspectives for advanced air mobility in Asia? What is the expected role of China in all of this?Together with Joshua, we try to answer all of these questions in an episode of the podcast you can't miss if interested in this very dynamic part of the world!

Things we talk about in this episodeIan Brooke's background and story as an entrepreneur from an early ageWhat is Astro Mechanica and how it got startedWhat is an electric adaptive jet engine and how does it workWhat are the potential applications of the electric adaptive jet engineAstro Mechanica's acceptance into Y Combinator, the famous Silicon Valley startup acceleration programmeWhere is Astro Mechanica at the moment and what are its next milestones

Vertical Aerospace is one of the world's leading advanced air mobility developers, at least when it comes to its order book.Some 1,500 units of its VX4 eVTOL aircraft have already been pre-ordered (including a 500 aircraft order from Avolon, which the lessor then managed to place in a matter of months with a handful of airlines), but before that, Vertical Aerospace will have to complete a thorough a comprehensive testing and certification process.And no one better placed to talk precisely about this than our guest on this episode: Michael Cervenka, Chief Technology Officer at Vertical Aerospace.Michael is an industry veteran, who, prior to joining Vertical Aerospace, worked for quite a few years at that other flagship of British aerospace industry, Rolls-Royce. We recorded this conversation as Vertical Aerospace was preparing for a key step in its development process: its first piloted untethered flight. So, we talked with Michael in full detail about this ongoing testing programme, its current status and the challenges that lie ahead.And, then, of course, we discussed in detail other aspects of Vertical Aerospace's plans , such as its value proposition, its industrial plan, which, unlike other eVTOL developers, involves a whole ecosystem of partners working together. There was also time to discuss financial and commercial aspects of the project and even some little known aspects of the project, such as the main differences between an eVTOL and a helicopter or why prototypes are painted white.So, tune in for an in-depth conversation about one of the most fascinating eVTOL projects in the world right now!

The decarbonization of the aviation industry will require huge amounts of investment.If we focus on sustainable aviation fuel (SAF) alone, the amount of capex that will be required is staggering. Take Europe, for example, that will need over 100 new SAF production plants by 2030 if the aviation industry is to meet the EU's ambitious SAF adoption plans.No wonder, then, that some of the most prominent initiatives to channel fresh investment towards this field have come from inside the industry. The Sustainable Flight Fund, set up by United Airlines through its United Airlines Ventures investment arm, is the largest venture fund in the world dedicated specifically to SAF investment. Interestingly, it is not a single-company effort, since, to back this project, United has assembled a broad coalition of fellow investors from across the commercial aviation ecosystem, including some airlines that are its direct competitors.Mukul Hariharan, a former airline pilot turned venture capitalist, is the managing partner of United's Sustainable Flight Fund. He has come to the podcast to talk about it and about its investment philosophy.So, tune in, for a short but interesting conversation with one of the main players in the SAF investment scene!

Right as the commercial aviation industry gears up for the 2024 edition of the Farnborough Air Show, I got on Zoom with Jon Sindreu, one of the top journalists out there that knows the industry best.Perhaps because, in addition to his strong focus on aviation, Jon covers also range of sectors through the popular “Heard on the Streat” section on the Wall Street Journal (WSJ), he is able to offer a no-nonsense view from outside the aviation industry bubble.So, my idea for this episode was to review, together with Jon, some of the key macro trends that are shaping the commercial aviation industry: the future of the OEM duopoly, increasing consolidation in the European airline sector and, very importantly, the race to decarbonize the industry. Is there going to be enough SAF around to comply with the different governmental and EU mandates? How to get more SAF to the market fast? And, last but not least, is advanced air mobility the disruptive technology that we are being told it will be or is it all just hype?If you are looking for a fresh and outspoken voice on these matters you will possibly like Jon's very straightforward talk.So, join us in this conversation in which we try to leave no stone unturned!

As Europe is trying to get people off planes and into trains out of environmental concerns, Dr. Klaus Radermacher stands out as a contrarian voice.We are calculating it wrong!…says this engineer and consultant, who, in the last few years has taken a keen interest in the topic of sustainable mobility.Is the train really a better alternative to the plane? Which mode of transportation is most efficient over short, medium and long distances? Should we keep building more high speed rail infrastructure to get people to fly less? These are some of the questions that Dr. Radermacher addresses in an episode of the podcast rich in facts and data.The conclusions Dr. Radermacher reached after applying his analytical framework to this consequential debate may not please everyone. They provide, however, a valuable viewpoint that should be taken into account if we wish to make the best possible use of the available resources to tackle one of the most pressing issues we face as a society.This was a long, but fascinating conversation, to the point that we have already agreed on retaking it where we left it some day soon, because there are so many segues and derivations of this line of thought that they could not all fit in a standard episode.In the meantime, tune in for what is possibly one of the most thought-provoking episodes to date of this podcast!

Sustainability has become a central topic in aviation, but are airlines prepared for this conversation?Elizabeth Maclean and Mike Evans are the co-founders of Herdwick Communications, a consultancy firm that advises airlines all over the world.With Elizabeth and Mike we speak about the reputation crisis and public relations storm that the aviation industry is facing in the face of climate change and how airlines should be communicating about sustainability.What can airlines say when they are being accused of wrecking the climate? How can airlines avoid greenwashing and end up being sued because of overpromising or misrepresenting their sustainability initiatives? Why so many airlines have opted for greenhushing instead?Elizabeth and Mike share their views on the matter and the basics of the model they have developed to help airlines deal with these increasingly pressing matters.Check it out!

Landor is, possibly, the creative agency that has designed the most iconic brands in aviation.British Airways, Alitalia, Singapore Airlines and Etihad are just a few of the big names of the airline industry that have entrusted their public identity to Landor's creative minds.On this episode of the podcast we speak with Ryan Frost, Executive Creative Director at Landor, about the attributes of a great airline brand and we dissect what and how three great British airlines that couldn't be more different between them - British Airways, Virgin Atlantic and easyJet - have chosen to communicate those attributes.We also take a look at some iconic projects completed by Landor in the past, not just the world-famous BA “Landor livery”, which was for many years almost like an unofficial national symbol of Britain, but also others that have defined an era in airline branding, such as Alitalia's, its more modern reincarnation in ITA Airways and Etihad Airways.How often does an airline need to change its livery? How airline brands have adapted to the changing nature of the air travel business over the last few decades?We will talk about these and some other aspects of airline brand design on today's episode of the podcast!

Our guest in this episode is Billy Thalheimer, founder and CEO of REGENT, a startup based in Rhode Island developing a wing-in-ground vehicle that will make it possible to fly fast and sustainably between coastal cities before the end of this decade.A wing-in-ground vehicle (WiG) is a type of craft that flies just a few meters above the surface of water making use of a draft-reducing aerodynamical effect.As a matter of fact, wing-in-ground vehicles are not new, the Soviets had a go at them during the Cold War, and some entrepreneurs have tried to make them work in the past. What's new with REGENT's project, though, is that they are using some novel technologies, such as retractable foils to overcome some of the traditional limitations of this type of craft, such as their limited maneuvrability and sensitivity to high waves. What's more, REGENT is designing its craft to be electrically powered, which means they will also allow for sustainable travel.The Seaglider, such is the name of the ground-in-wing vehicle REGENT is working on, will fly over water at 180 mph, way, way faster than traditional ferries. So, it is not surprising that ferry operators are among the first to place orders for the Seaglider. Airlines have also shown interest in the Seagliders. Some of them, like Japan Airlines and Hawaiian Airlines, have even invested in the project, adding their names to a list of A-class investors that includes the likes of Mark Cuban, Peter Thiel and aerospace and defense giant Lockheed Martin.Last but not least, the Seaglider has also caught the eye of the US Marine Corps at a time when it is reviewing its strategy for an Indo-Pacific area of operations that is simmering with geopolitical tensions.But how long will we have to wait to see REGENT's Seagliders in action? How is the experience of traveling in a Seaglider going to be like?No one better to answer all these questions than person behind the REGENT Craft project! Tune in to listen to Billy Thalheimer share his insights about this new and revolutionary mode of transportation!

Is the air cargo market ripe for its own technology revolution?Aleksey Matyushev and his team at Natilus are certainly doing their bit to make it happen.A graduate of Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University, Aleksey has been working at the cutting edge of aerospace technology for quite some time, both on civilian and military projects.He is the founder and CEO of Natilus, a Californian startup that is working on a family of truly disruptive blended-wing-body freigther aircraft that are also designed with autonomous flight capabilities and hydrogen propulsion in mind.A tall order, for sure. But Natilus has secured the backing of quite a few prominent technology investors as well as some major players in the air cargo industry.The Natilus project encapsulates also some of the themes that the broader aerospace industry faces in decades to come: go for a clean-sheet design or not? should commercial aircraft be autonomous or remotely operated? what's the role of hydrogen in the future of aviation?We talk about all this and some more with Aleksey in this episode of the podcast!

Charles Everett is the Director of Aviation at the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, a public organization set up by these two states in order to manage key pieces of infrastructure, including the ports, some tunnels and roads and, importantly for this episode of the podcast, New York's airport system.More than 144 million passengers pass every year through the airports under the responsibility of the Port Authority, which include JFK, La Guardia and Newark-Liberty, and this number is set to increase in coming years and the three of them complete massive redevelopment works.Over $30 billion dollars have been invested in the last few years in rebuilding and expanding airports capacity at all major airports in the New York area, something that is also expected to bring about a very significant upgrade of the passenger experience.So, on today's episode, we are going to review, together with Charles, each of these projects and discuss how the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey is preparing for a future in which sustainability take center stage and new forms of air mobility are start to shape the way we move around.Tune in for a detailed overview of New York's airport system and how it is investing to reclaim its position as one of the world's major air travel nodes!

Eric Lithun is a successful software entrepreneur from Norway, who, after selling the company he had co-founded, focused his efforts on the development of an electric seaplane.Elfly is a startup developing a new generation battery-powered seaplane.Electric aviation is tough: energy density is not yet there for most use cases, but this is not the case, Eric thinks, of the many of the missions seaplanes operate nowadays.In areas like the Norwegian fjords or the Maldives, seaplanes can play an important role linking communities that, while not distant as the crow (or the seaplane!) flies, are separated by some stretch of water that make air transport a desirable and efficient option.An aircraft that can operate those short distances economically, sustainably and with little need for infrastructure can open up numerous opportunities in this type of places. This is why Elfly plans not only to develop a new generation of electric seaplanes that can be upgraded progressively as new battery technology becomes available, but also to become an operator on its very own, showing to the world the operational and financial feasibility of the concept.Eric is a fantastic conversationalist that lays out very clearly what. are the the key factors that will make possible for the seaplanes to experience a renaissance of sorts in the coming decades.Tune in for a fascinating conversation about Elfly and the future of electric seaplanes! Download this episode from:Apple Podcasts / iTunes, Spotify or Google Podcasts Things we talk about in this episode Eric's professional background and how he got into aviationThe Elfly story, background and current statusWhy electric seaplanes have a compelling business case in NorwayHow Elfly plans to avoid some of the issues that have prevented a more widespread use of seaplanesThe NoEmi seaplane, features and charateristicsEric's plan to serially-produce the NoEmi seaplane ResourcesElflyThe previous podcast with Tomas BrødreskiftThe announcement of a cooperation agreement between Elfly and the Lofoten Islands of northern Norway, including the vintage-style poster we talk about during our conversation with Eric.A report by the Nordic Network for Electric Aviation (NEA) about opportunities for electric aviation in Scandinavia The NoEmi in flight (as you may see it one day in the Norwegian fjords) Podcast Music: Five Armies by Kevin MacLeodLink: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3762-five-armiesLicense: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Interview Transcript:(please note that, although we strive to make it as close as possible to the original recording, the transcript may not be 100% accurate)

Giulio Ranucci is the Head of Innovation at Aeroporti di Roma (AdR), the company managing Rome's two airports, Fiumicino (FCO) and Ciampino (CIA), with nearly 45 million annual passengers combined.What makes Giulio's work at the helm of AdR's innovation arm particularly interesting, is the very active role that the Italian airport operator is playing in fostering technology innovation in the airport sector.The initiatives taken by AdR go well beyond Rome and Italy. Its annual startup accelerator programme is open to startups from all over the world and Aeroporti di Roma has also been instrumental in establishing a global network of airports, stretching all the way from Vancouver to Dubai, which share this interest in accelerating innovative systems and solutions with the potential to improve the passengers' airport experience. This is an area, where, I think many will agree, there is lots of scope for improvement!In this episode of the podcast to learn how Aeroporti di Roma has structured its startup accelerator, including the setup of a dedicated physical space within the terminal, how the most promising participants can then get funding from AdR Ventures, the firm's own venture capital arm and, last but not least, how its airports and those in the Airports 4 Innovations network provide a real-world launchpad to test new products and ideas.Tune in for a deep dive into the world of airport technology acceleration!

Richard Gaona is one of the key players in the global executive aviation industry.The once president of Airbus' Executive Aircraft division is currently leading one of the most unique operators in the highly sophisticated world of private aviation.Richard is the President and CEO of Comlux, a company like no other. The uniqueness of Comlux is not due to the fact that it operates at the highest end of a market. No, even if its fleet includes some of the world's largest and most luxurious private jets and its customer list, some of the world's most successful businessmen, artists, sportsmen, heads of state and royalty, this is not the main reason it stands out from the pack.What sets Comlux apart is the its rather holistic approach combining under its umbrella pretty much all the services that a private jet owner may need: from aircraft trading and brokerage, to cabin completions, from maintenance and technical services to on-demand charters and aircraft management. What's more, not content with that, Comlux has also been instrumental in the design of a new aircraft type, the Airbus TwoTwenty, which has de facto created a new category within the executive jet industry.In this episode of the podcast, done in partnership with Comlux, Richard Gaona shares some insights about the fascinating and exclusive world in which Comlux operates in: the top tier of corporate aviation. But with Richard we also talk extensively about the new TwoTwenty aircraft, the corporate version of the state-of-the-art A220 airliner, a project that is very dear to him, since Comlux has had a major role in its development from its inception.The idea behind the TwoTwenty is that you can combine the economic and operational performance of a purpose-built business jet, with the spaciousness of an airliner.Comlux delivered (and operates) the first TwoTwenty to Dubai based luxury hospitality group FIVE in the Spring of 2023 and will be fitting the cabins of the next sixteen of the type that Airbus produces. So, tune in for an in-depth conversation about one of the most fascinating companies operating right now in commercial aviation!

Mark Hiller is the CEO of RECARO Holding and RECARO Aircraft Seating.Germany-based RECARO is one of the world's leading manufacturers of aircraft seats. Although RECARO is present in, pretty much all segments of the market, its position is particularly strong in low cost and hybrid airlines, where it gets close to a third of the market worldwide.Yes, you read that right!…roughly one of every three seats in this segment of the airline industry are made by this family-owned company headquartered in the picturesque town of Schwäbisch-Hall the southwest of Germany! (although not all seats are made there, since RECARO has now factories in several other locations around the world).So, few people know the aircraft seat market as well as Mark Hiller, RECARO's CEO, our guest today on the podcast.In this episode, done in partnership with RECARO, we explore not just the fascinating story of the company, that started making chassis for Porsche sports cars, but will also review the current state of the aircraft seating industry and its main trends.We also have some time, of course, to discuss some of the most original aircraft seat concepts that have been floated recently and their chances of becoming (or not!) a reality in the near future. Another topic that we touch upon is that of premium cabins (first, business and premium economy), an area in which RECARO has been investing significant resources and unveiling a whole range of innovative products lately.Chances are that if your are reading this, you fly with certain regularity and, therefore, it is very, very likely you have spent time sitting on one of RECARO's seats, so, I am sure this episode of the podcast will offer you a new perspective on the matter! Download this episode from:Apple Podcasts / iTunes, Spotify or Google Podcasts Things we talk about in this episode Mark's professional backgroundThe long and fascinating story of RecaroWhat markets is Recaro active inRecaro's focus on economy class seats and how it has expanded its range to cover also business class and premium economyHow Recaro co-brands its seats with some airlinesHow long are the aircraft seat design and procurement cycles How Recaro develops new aircraft seat conceptsWhat are the main drivers of sustainability in the aircraft seat industryStanding passengers, stacked seats and other ideas…How you can innovate in the aircraft seat industry while remaining within the bounds of what is feasible todayHow is the aircraft seat industry preparing for the arrival of eVTOLs ResourcesRecaro Aircraft SeatingRecaro GroupThe Porsche 356, one of the iconic cars that Recaro built chassis for (before the company specializes in making seats)My 2021 piece for The Points Guy about the opening of Recaro's new factory in Schwäbisch HallMy post on the Places of Charm travel blog about the historical town of Schwäbisch Hall and about the nearby museum of German rural lifeTrends in airline seating, my piece on AerotimeFrontier Airlines & Alaska Airlines seats co-branded with Recaro“Xtend” seatRecaro's acquisition of a Polish train seat manufacturerTrains and planes in Europe, my piece for CNN on thisPodcast Music: Five Armies by Kevin MacLeodLink: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3762-five-armiesLicense: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Interview Transcript:(please note that, although we strive to make it as close as possible to the original recording, the transcript may not be 100% accurate)

Jay Sorensen is one of the world's top experts in airline ancillaries. Every year, Jay's firm, IdeaWorksCompany, produces a comprehensive report about the state of airline ancillaries, a piece of work that has become the reference in this field, the Yearbook of Ancillary Revenue.As someone that tried to read IdeaWork's ancillaries yearbook as soon as it comes out, I was keen to have Jay on the podcast to talk about this very important component of many airlines' business model.What are the ancillaries that are driving the most revenue? Which ancillaries are now focusing the attention of the airlines? Is it realistic to think of airlines, first and foremost, as retailers, as some in the industry pretend?We talk about all these matters and some more on this week's episode of the podcast…!

Addison Ferrell is Director, Infrastructure and Head of Americas at Skyports, one of the world's leading vertiport developers.Vertiports will be an essential element of the upcoming advanced air mobility revolution. Will they be more like airports or like metro stations? What sort of experience can we expect to have there are travellers? What are the barriers of entry in this sector?These are all questions I wanted to ask an expert like Addison, because there is still so much of the advanced air mobility experience that is still pretty much being defined as we speak.In this regard, Skyport's vision emerges as being particularly relevant, since the firm is active in all continents and has been involved in some of the most advanced projects in this field, such as the one taking shape in Dubai, to connect the Emirate's main nodes with a network of vertiports.So, tune in for a fascinating conversation with one of the experts that is actively shaping the future of the advanced air mobility experience!

The seaplane industry could not remain off trend. Electrification is driving a wave of innovation in aviation and George Alafinov, the scion of a family of seaplane designers, is making sure it does not skip one of the oldest branches of the industry.True, seaplanes may have fallen out of fashion in the post-war years. The advent of the jet era, the availability of airports on land and the maintenance requirements of aircraft operating in salty water led to this category of aircraft being sidelined. But Jekta's founder is taking a new approach, using composites and electric propulsion to create the seaplane of the future.In this episode of the podcast we discuss the pros and cons of seaplanes with George Alafinov and we talk also about the large order Jekta recently secured in India, where regional aviation is on the rise.Tune in to learn how Jekta is pioneering technologies that could lead to a seaplane renaissance at a time when the industry is looking for versatile, clean and efficient aircraft for regional air transport

Marc Piette is the founder and CEO of Xwing, a California-based company that is developing a system that allows aircraft to fly fully autonomously, from gate to gate without human intervention.This may sounds like science-fiction to some, but it is certainly not. Already back in 2021, Xwing demonstrated this technology by successfully completing one of such autonomous flights.This is a potentially disruptive technology that I was very curious to learn more about, so I invited Marc to the podcast to try to understand a bit better what they are doing at Xwing.in our conversation, we review the basics of autonomous flight and the technologies that Xwing is developing and integrating to make it possible. We also talk about Marc's entrepreneurial journey, from the moment he arrived in the US from Belgium, his trajectory in the tech industry and the foundation and growth of Xwing.Tune in for a fascinating chat about what could be the future of aviation several years and decades from now!

Things we talk about in this episode:Jenny's professional background What is Cranfield Aerospace SolutionsWhat is the relationship between Cranfield Aerospace Solutions and Cranfield UniversityWhy Cranfield Aerospace Solutions has pivoted towards the search for sustainable technologies in aviationThe Britten-Norman dealProject FressonThe role of Cranfield Aerospace Solutions in the UK's sustainable aviation ecosystem

As used as I am in reviewing all sorts of innovative ideas in aviation, the concept that Magpie Aviation presented a few weeks ago really caught my eye.Is this even possible? This was my first reaction when learning about the system to get an electric aircraft to tow, mid-air, a passenger aircraft to its destination that the guys at Magpie have devised.Fortunately, I had met Magpie's Damon Vander Lind and Andy Goessling, CEO and CTO of Magpie, respectively, at an event in Nice just a few days prior. So, I got in touch to try to get them on the podcast asap in order to learn more about this truly original concept to decarbonize aviation.So, I was on the line with, Damon and Andy, shortly after and the result is this podcast episode, where we talk about this revolutionary concept, its pros and cons and how Magpie Aviation plans to bring it to fruition.By the way, they also share some details about the real flight tests they conducted recently over the Nevada desert (see video in the show notes).So, don't miss today's episode if you wish to get a glimpse of what out-of-the-box thinking really means when it comes to tackling the problem of emissions in the aviation industry!

This year's edition of EBACE was all about sustainability, or at least that's what the program of activities focused on.The executive aviation industry is well aware of how it is being increasingly perceived by the public opinion in a context of climate alarm and, believe it or not, it is taking the matter very seriously.Interestingly, and perhaps counterintuitively, there seem to be strong synergies with another segment of the aviation industry that is part of the solution: the sustainable flight innovators. In fact, the prevailing technological and market conditions make it likely that the first use cases of new propulsion technologies will be in what is currently labelled as private aviation.Besides that, EBACE is also a great forum to meet fellow aviation professionals from across the globe, including quite a few that have been here on this podcast before.So, I thought it would be a good idea to do a special episode with two of them, Adam Twidell, who was here on episodes and Morell Westermann, who did so in episodes .Both have a long experience in the field of aviation, besides the fact that they are both extremely articulate and great speakers, so their insights are always very valuable.So, in this episode I speak much less and I let both Adam and Morell share their impressions and insights from EBACE: what was interesting and what not and how the concepts, aircraft and technology that were exhibited at EBACE will shape the future of air mobility by making it greener.So, tune in for a fascinating debate between two great minds of the aviation industry!

TNMT is the research and analysis arm of Lufthansa Innovation Hub, which is, in turn, the innovation arm of the large German airline group.If you are into aviation tech, TNMT's newsletter is a must. I have been a subscriber for quite some time and have even collaborated, through AeroTime, in one of its editions.This is why I had long wanted to invite TNMT's head of research, Ivan Terekhov, here to the podcast, to ask him about the many interesting tech developments that are transforming aviation and travel, but also because I am really fascinated by the work they do at TNMT.Leading a small team of researchers, Ivan has been instrumental in turning TNMT's publications in a reference in this field.In this conversation we learn a bit more about TNMT's methodologies and about Ivan's views of some of the most talked about (or “hyped” in some cases, if you prefer!) technologies in aviation right now.Tune in for a comprehensive and well informed overview of the current aviation tech scene!

Mikhail Kokorich is a serial entrepreneur operating at the technology frontier of aerospace.Following a string of successful business launches in areas such as satellite technology, his latest venture, Swiss-based Destinus is developing an hypersonic aircraft capable of linking different continents at speeds five times faster than sound.This may sound outlandish, but there is currently a wave of startups that taking advantages of advances in materials science and renewed interest among the world's governments in hypersonic capabilities in order to explore this potentially disruptive technology.I really appreciated Mikhail's straightforward and not-mincing-words style in addressing some of the aspects of hypersonics development, from the role of military research projects to the sustainability angle. This direct, hands-on approach is also evident in some of the startup's latest milestones. Far from working on abstract concepts, Destinus is already testing some small-scale prototypes (not hypersonically yet!) and is creating a network of partners across Europe (for example, it recently received a €13M grant from the Spanish government to further its research in this field). Some new tangible developments are expected in the next few months.So, how long before we are able to hop across the Atlantic in a couple of hours?Tune in for this fascinating conversation (despite my voice still ailing from a cold!) about one of the most exciting aerospace technologies currently under development!

When it comes to the passenger experience and the product most airlines offer to their passengers, Jeff O'Neill has pretty strong opinions.Not for nothing, Jeff, who was already on this podcast back in 2020, is the founder of Zephyr Aircraft Seat and has been patiently working to bring to fruition what he sees as the future of the Premium Economy class.The Zephyr seat is as revolutionary as it looks: a stacked seat concept that allows passengers to lay down flat to sleep without having to pay a fortune for a fancy business class seat. Now, this idea is, of course, a departure from the canon of the industry, which won't face an easy path to become a reality.If airlines have tended to be traditional in its approach to seating, this doesn't discourage Jeff, as well as other creative minds in this industry from continuing to pursue what he regards as a necessary update of the passenger experience. After years of investment by airlines in perfecting the business class cabin, has the time come for a rethink of the premium economy and economy class experiences?We talk with Jeff about all this and he also shares some tips and insights about his favourite airline products currently in the market, both premium and economy.So tune in for a fascinating conversation about what makes for a great airline cabin product and passenger experience!

Omer Bar-Yohay is the president of AutoFlight.AutoFlight is as close as it gets in the eVTOL world to a global company: founded and headquartered in China, where it has its manufacturing facility, its design and development team and some of its major investors are located in Germany and its operational testing grounds in the California.Although, perhaps it hasn't got, so far, as much press as other major eVTOL players, AutoFlight has been collecting some notable successes: in February 2023, AutoFlight's Prosperity set a new record for a nonstop eVTOL flight, 250km on a single battery charge (beating by 2km the previous record-holder, Joby) and just a few days later it announced a massive 205-strong aircraft order from EVFLY, a firm that intends to launch eVTOL operations in Southeast Asia, Middle East, and Africa before the end of this decade.But what I also found quite interesting is that Omer defines himself first and foremost as a realist, so I was really keen to learn his views about the eVTOL euphoria we are living through and get a realistic assessment of the market situation and the prospects for eVTOL developers from an experienced industry insider like him.There are certainly few people out there with as much direct hands-on experience of the new forms of air mobility that are taking shape!So tune in for a fascinating conversation with Omer Bar-Yohay, president of AutoFlight!

Hemant Mistry, our guest today, is the director of energy transition at the world's top airline industry organisation, IATA, which gathers nearly 300 airlines from all over the world.With Hemant we review the strategy of priorities that IATA has set for its members and the industry's position in matters such as the sustainable fuel mandates being introduced, for example, by the European Union.But IATA's task is not all about coordination among its members and lobbying, there are also a number of practical initiatives we talk about, such as IATA Connect, which provides a useful and easily shareable framework for airlines and other players in the air transportation and travel market to assess their carbon footprint, a necessary first step to take action to mitigate it.So, tune in for a sharp and concise overview of how the main organization representing the airline industry views the future of sustainable flight.

Ivor von Dartel left the comfort and security of a corporate job at Airbus to develop an all-electric battery-powered aircraft.Munich-based Vaeridion is one of the most promising players in the emerging field of electric aviation. The 9-seater, 500km-range electric aircraft that Ivor's team is working on is designed to shuttle travellers, carbon-free, across the sort of short to medium range distances that nowadays are often covered by road transport.Launching a new aircraft from scratch is, of course, a formidable and very capital intensive endeavour, but the advent of new propulsion technologies opens a blue ocean of opportunities for those willing to take on the challenge. With the electric aviation scene gathering momentum, I thought it was the right time to touch base with Ivor and find out more about the background of this project, his own personal motivations to lead it and the milestones and perspectives ahead of the Vaeridion team.Tune in for an inspiring tale of entrepreneurship as well as a glimpse of what could be future of air mobility in years to come!

Gregory Davis heads one of the most talked-about startups of the electric aviation era.In fact, Eviation was already cool when almost no one was talking about electric aircraft and aviation sustainability.The super sleek lines of its Alice commuter aircraft are due to the fact that this truly clean-sheet aircraft has been designed around the batteries, making a truly electric-native aircraft.in this episode of the podcast we review with Gregory the latest developments since he took the reigns of Eviation in early 2022, including, of course, the Alice's first flight in September 2022, but many other things as well.We talk about the earlier story of the company since it was founded in Israel in 2015, its current order book and commercial prospects and the different use cases use cases and versions of the Alice that Eviation's team is working on.When can we expect the next flights of the Alice prototype? When is it expected to get certified? When is it expected to enter commercial service? You will have to listen to today's episode to get the answers direct from Eviation's Greogry Davis!

This is not the first time that Morell Westermann visits this podcast. Those of you that were around in 2020, when we were just taking off, might remember how Morell Westermann and Malik Aziz explained here their record-setting electric flight across the whole length of Germany.Well, Morell is back at record setting, this time, at aeroFriedrichshafen, in Southern Germany. Europe's largest general aviation show, will have a special opening act with the arrival of what is intended to be the largest formation of electrically-powered aircraft ever to fly together.Electric aircraft from all over Europe will gather at an airfield in the canton of Sankt Gallen, Switzerland, and cross the water of Lake Constance to make a coordinated arrival at the show.This will be a remarkable feat in itself, but I thought that was also a good excuse to invite Morell back to the podcast in order to take the pulse of the electric aviation industry from a pilot's perspective. In addition to his work as a technology and innovation consultant and key note speaker, Morell is a keen and experienced aviator and a very active member of the, still small, but growing electric aviation community. We may even call him an evangelist of electric flight!So, tune in for an overview of a movement that is starting to transform the way people fly!

If you are into sustainable aviation, chances are that you have come across ZeroAvia some way or another.This fast growing startup, which is developing hydrogen fuel-cell powertrains for aircraft, has been making headlines pretty much every other week.From its Californian roots, ZeroAvia is now operating across five separate locations in the US and the UK and has raised funds from some of the most prominent names in the global business community, including the likes of Amazon, Shell, Bill Gates' investment fund Breathrough Energy Ventures, the IAG Group, American Airlines and United Airlines, to name just a few. Moreover, it has also standing partnerships with a whole range of aerospace and technology companies, such as Textron and PowerCell.The star role of ZeroAvia in the green aviation ecosystem is not something exactly new, in fact we already did an episode, back in 2020, with the firm's CFO, Katya Akulinicheva. But so much is going on that I thought that, two years after that first episode, it was time to invite ZeroAvia's founder and CEO, Val Miftakhov, to come to the podcast and share some details of where his company is at now and what are the next milestones we should keep an eye on. We also talk, of course, of Val's earlier entrepreneurial experience, building, quite literally, electric cars out of his garage, and review some of the key aspects of the hydrogen-powered technology that ZeroAvia is working on and that have driven recent decisions such as the acquisition of UK-based fuel cell technology company HyPoint.So, tune in with a wide-ranging conversation with one of the World's green aviation leaders!

JetBlue Ventures is one of the earliest and most prolific early stage investors in the aviation and travel technology space. It is now common for many large airlines to have their own in-house venture arm, but when it launched, back in 2016, JetBlue Ventures was one of the pioneers in this space, together with Hangar51 (of the IAG Group) and Cockpit Innovation (of El Al). Fast forward to today and JetBlue Ventures is invested in more than 40 companies, ranging from advanced air mobility to hospitality software. JetBlue Ventures focuses on projects aiming to make the travel journey more seamless and convenient, as well as in technologies that drive efficiency and sustainability in the travel ecosystem, with 1,000 startup projects being reviewed every year.How does an airline-affiliated venture capital firm conduct its business? How does it differ from the more generalist venture firms? Which are the hottest trends and companies that are currently focusing the attention of investors in travel and mobility.There's no one better to answer these questions than Stephen Snyder, managing director of JetBlue Ventures.With Stephen we talk about the place of JetBlue Ventures in the Silicon Valley venture capital ecosystem and about some of the latest ventures and projects that his team has invested in and what caught their interest. Stephen also shares his experience as an entrepreneur, with a project in the airport retail space, and how this helped him better understand the challenges startups face when operating in the hyper-competitive travel sector.As it couldn't be otherwise, sustainability is also a central topic in our conversation, since this is one of a top investment themes for JetBlue Ventures and one in which they have made several major bets.If you are into aviation and travel innovation, venture capital or entrepreneurship tune in because in today's episode Silicon Valley meets the aviation industry!

Patrick Edmond is the managing director of Altair Advisory, a consultancy firm providing expertise and advice to the commercial aviation industry.Patrick has a long and broad experience that encompasses airlines, airports, aircraft leasing, aviation tech and, of course, consulting services, which gives him a great vantage point on the industry.I had been following Patrick for quite some time, since he is an avid commentator with numerous publications on social media and other platforms, covering relevant current aspects of the aviation industry. So I thought it was about time he came to the podcast to talk about some of the hottest topics right now in aviation and share some of his insights.In our conversation we cover quite a lot of ground, with a particular focus on the drive towards sustainability and its implications for regional aviation, a segment of the industry that is of particular interest to him.So, make yourselves comfortable, and get ready for a fascinating chat with a world-class expert in the business of commercial aviation!

LanzaJet is the sustainable aviation fuel spin-off of the almost eponymous LanzaTech, an American firm that is developing and deploying technologies to turn different sorts of feedstock and waste, into biofuels.Of the different processes and pathways available to make sustainable aviation fuel, LanzaJet is focusing on the Alcohol-to-Jet one, which uses ethanol previously produced from organic feedstocks. LanzaJet's technology has caught the eye of some of the most prominent corporate players. I am not talking only of airlines, such as British Airways, which is also an investor in LanzaJet, but also firms like Shell, Suncor and Microsoft, to name a few.Because the world can't get enough sustainable aviation fuel right now, LanzaJet is currently busy planning to open a string of plants across the world. Two plants are already under way in the US, with another one in the UK coming up next and other projects in Europe and Asia also in the pipeline. Breakthrough Energy, a decarbonization fund set by Bill Gates, is also supporting LanzaJet's vision and recently announced it was gibing it a $50M grant to help accelerate these projects. What have all those major companies seen in LanzaJet? What is the outlook for the sustainable aviation fuel market? How can the Alcohol-to-Jet production technology help decarbonize flying? Join me for an in-depth conversation about LanzaJet and the future of the sustainable aviation fuel industry, with Jimmy Samartzis, CEO of LanzaJet!

Michael Barnard is one of the most outspoken experts in the field of renewable energy and decarbonization technologies and, as it couldn't be otherwise, has also had a close look at the different projects that are claiming to take aviation towards the path of sustainability.In this long and gripping conversation, Michael doesn't mince words when talking about some of the trends and themes that are sweeping through the world of aviation, from eVTOLs to hydrogen.Michael has also taken the bold step of publishing his forecasts about the evolution of air traffic demand all the way up to the year 2100, a prediction which diverges considerably from those made public by official industry bodies and other analysts and that he aims to revise regularly as new data comes available.He also shares some insights about what he sees are promising areas of growth in sustainable aviation. Not for nothing he is an advisor to several startups that are developing solutions in the field of electric aviation.Whether you agree or not with Michael's views on the industry, what I am sure is that today's episode won't leave you indifferent, it may even make some uncomfortable, but will certainly provide food for thought to anyone interested in the different projects, technologies and companies that are currently trying to shape the future of aviation for decades to come.Tune in for a rather unconventional and, straightforward chat about sustainable aviation!

Today's podcast guest is leading a firm that is truly unique in the aviation world.Tom Grundy, CEO of Hybrid Air Vehicles (HAV) will possibly chastise me for talking about the airship comeback. The Airlander, the world's largest aircraft by some measures, may look, from the outside, like one of those classical airships of the pre-War era, however, as listeners of this episode shall soon learn, it presents some notable differences as well, the result of almost a century of progress in aerospace and materials sciences.The airship, as we all know, fell out of favour decades ago, what's different this time, then? In our chat, Tom explains some of the amazing capabilities of present day hybrid air vehicles like the Airlander: very low fuel consumption, almost no infrastructure needs, long range and super long endurance. Even the low speeds it is capable of can also be an advantage at times, like when it is used for luxury air tours or loitering reconnaissance missions.The Airlander 10, the first model that HAV has developed has already announced its launch customer, Spanish airline Air Nostrum, but Tom's team area already working on a much larger version that will meet the needs of freight operators operating in areas of the world with limited land transportation options.I am sure many of you, just like me, can't wait to see these giant Airlanders flying around…in the meantime, tune in for a fascinating conversation with Hybrid Air Vehicles CEO Tom Grundy!

Tom Vroemen knows what is it like to start a company in relatively unploughed field. In the last decade he launched, grew and sold two tech companies before switching its attention to sustainable aviation.Hi initial plan was to launch some sort of electric air service operation, but soon it was clear that the technology wasn't there yet.What was available, though, was his experience in scaling up businesses, and direct aviation expertise (he's got a pilot license) to help startups in the electric aviation space get the basics right, raise the necessary amount of funds and develop viable products, one step at a time.This contrasts with the strategy followed by quite a few electric aviation projects out there, including a big chunk of the eVTOL industry, which may be relying too much on what Tom calls “stacked black box” assumptions, the belief that a long list of issues will be somehow sorted in time and in the right order for a project to prosper.So this episode of the podcast is a bit like a reality check that takes aim and dissects some of the most pressing issues the electric aircraft and eVTOL industries face. Tom doesn't mince words in this analysis and, yet, at the same time, provides some insights about which strategies could stand a better chance to succeed.Tune in for a direct, frank and insightful conversation about the future of electric aviation! Download this episode from:Apple Podcasts / iTunes, Spotify, Google Podcasts or Stitcher Things we talk about in this episode:Tom's professional background and his different entrepreneurial ventures and exitsHow Tom moved from developing electric motor boats to planesWhat is Electric Leap and what it doesWhat are the main issues facing the electric aviation industryWhy eVTOLs may remain a very niche marketWhy the sustainable aviation industry needs a reality checkWhich strategies are more likely to produce advances in electric aviation Resources:Electric LeapTom's posts on LinkedinHeart Aerospace & its recent pivot to a hybrid 30-seaterEviationMy 2017 article on CNN in which I mention EviationPodcast Music: Five Armies by Kevin MacLeodLink: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3762-five-armiesLicense: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Interview Transcript:(please note that, although we strive to make it as close as possible to the original recording, the transcript may not be 100% accurate)

We are living through an almost unprecedented wave of aerospace innovation. From eVTOLs to new propulsion technologies, the world is awash with new projects, designs and concepts.How many of them will pass the certification process?This is a question that I've been pondering for a while and this is the reason I welcomed the chance to do this episode in partnership with AFuzion, a leading boutique consultancy firm that helps aerospace companies get their certification process right.Few people know the world of aircraft certification as well as Vance Hilderman, AFuzion's founder.A long time entrepreneur and author (he's written one of the reference technical books on aircraft certification), in this episode of the podcast Vance delivers a proper masterclass on the topic of aircraft certification. What are the challenges that eVTOL designers face to get certified? What are the key elements that they must take into account? Which potential points of failure do regulators look at? How does the time-frame and procedure to get a new aircraft design certified look like?We talk about all these and many more questions concerning the somehow complex, but very essential, world of aircraft certification. Tune in to this episode of the podcast to get some first hand insights of the aircraft certification process as well as some valuable pieces of advice, all directly from one of the world's top experts in this field!

Alon's career spans several decades in, both, military and civilian aviation. He's been at the helm of all sorts of aircraft, from F-16s to the Dreamliners, which he currently flies for Israeli airline El Al.But, while Alon's flying career could surely provide material for several episodes, the reason he's here today on the podcast is the Simplifly App, a tool he and his partners have developed in order to help people fight their fear of flying.A surprisingly large number of people suffer fear of flying to some degree. This is something Alon realized after quite a few people in his circle sought advice about how to address this issue.Alon would soon find himself organizing workshops for people that wished to overcome their fear of flying. But, in person events, are, of course, limited in scale and reach. If fear of flying is so widespread, why not scale it up with tools and channels that allowed him to reach many more people at any one time?The next step, thus, was to launch Simplifly, an app that helps people address their fear of flying through a series of lessons and interactive features that allow you to communicate with qualified pilots in order to seek answers and advice on this matter.So, today's podcast is about Alon's entrepreneurial journey, but also about a broader topic, the fear of flying and the ways those that experience it can overcome it.And, as a bonus, listeners of this podcast will benefit from an exclusive present: FREE access to the Simplifly premium features by entering a promo code that Alon will reveal during our conversation!