Welcome to " The Betrayal Recovery Transformation Podcast," where hosts Jenn Howie and Kris Rocha explore the complexities of betrayal and offer guidance on how to recover and transform from its aftermath. Through candid conversations and interviews with experts in the field, Jenn and Kris delve into topics such as healing from betrayal trauma, rebuilding trust, and helping individuals uncover their unique identities. Join us on this journey of self-discovery and transformation as we provide a safe and supportive space for listeners to heal, grow, and learn how to turn trauma into triumph. If you'd like to support our podcast, you can find our Patreon here: https://patreon.com/TheBetrayalRecoveryTransformationPodcast
This week on The Betrayal Recovery Transformation Podcast, we're joined by Amy Elysse—vocal coach, faith-filled encourager, and a radiant light in her community. Amy opens up about her own betrayal story and shares how the human voice, primarily through singing, can become a powerful tool for healing. Whether you're musically inclined or simply longing to express yourself more fully, Amy brings warmth, insight, and practical wisdom to the conversation. And she's created a free recording to guide you through a healing exercise.As a mom and coach, Amy helps women reclaim their voices and step into confidence through song and self-expression. She reminds us that healing doesn't have to be heavy; it can be joyful, playful, and freeing.Key Takeaways from the Episode:How Amy's betrayal story shaped her understanding of healingWhy the voice is such a powerful vehicle for recoveryParallels between singing and the process of emotional healingWhat it really means to “find your voice” after betrayalEasy, fun ways to bring music and singing into your daily healing practicesEncouragement for anyone on the journey of rebuildingConnect with Amy: Follow Amy on Instagram at @tunedintograceConnect with Us: Visit our website: Watermark Coach Follow us on Instagram: @WatermarkCoachingThank you for listening! Don't forget to subscribe, rate, and review our podcast to stay updated on future episodes and help others find the hope and support they deserve.Produced and edited by Kris Rocha & Cory Gonzalez.Sponsored by Pure Life Alliance
Pornography addiction is one of the most misunderstood struggles in the church today, often shrouded in shame and secrecy. Sam Black, Director of Recovery Education at Covenant Eyes and author of The Healing Church: What Churches Get Wrong About Pornography and How to Fix It, joins us to share how real freedom comes through accountability, grace, and informed support. Drawing from his journalism background and over 70 interviews with pastors, counselors, and people in recovery, Sam offers practical wisdom for churches, couples, and individuals navigating the path to healing.Key Takeaways:How Covenant Eyes Works – Sam explains how the software uses screen accountability and ally relationships to help individuals break free from pornography.What Makes Accountability Effective – Data shows accountability is most potent when allies are engaged, supportive, and focused on deeper heart change—not just behavior monitoring.Support for Spouses—Sam offers compassionate advice for wives who hope software will cure them, emphasizing that while it's a helpful tool, healing requires a broader process of trust-building and recovery.What Churches Get Wrong – Drawing from The Healing Church, Sam reveals common missteps ministry leaders make—like placing blame on spouses or assuming more sex will “fix” the problem—and how to shift toward grace-filled support.The Power of Collaboration: Sam shares why he invited Dr. Sheri Keffer to author a chapter in his book, emphasizing the importance of including voices from the betrayal trauma community in the healing process.Resources Mentioned:Covenant EyesThe Healing Church by Sam BlackAllied: Fighting Porn with Accountability, Faith, and Friends – Free eBookConnect with Sam Black:LinkedInRead Sam's Articles at Covenant EyesConnect with Us!
Dr. Anthony Walker joins us to share how he helps men navigate the healing process after betrayal. He provides insights from Help Her Heal, a workbook by Carol Jergensen Sheets, and discusses how men can develop emotional attunement, overcome resistance, and strengthen their relationships.Key Talking Points:What led Dr. Anthony Walker to Help Her Heal and how he incorporates its strategies in his coaching.The importance of emotional attunement in repairing relational trust and how men can develop this skill.Common misconceptions men have about betrayal trauma and how Help Her Heal addresses them.How men can work through shame and defensiveness to focus on healing both themselves and their relationships.The role of spiritual warfare in marriage and how couples can recognize and combat these challenges.Encouragement for men who are resistant to engaging in the healing process and practical steps to begin.Resources Mentioned:Help Her Heal by Carol Jergensen Sheets – Amazon LinkLearn more about Dr. Anthony Walker at www.coachanthonywalker.comIntensive Hope Coaching – www.intensivehope.com/pages/services/coaching.htmlConnect with Us!
In this episode, we welcome Hope Ray, a Licensed Professional Counselor who coined Betrayal Violence. Hope is a leader in the field of betrayal trauma, offering deep insights into the effects of secrecy, deception, and relational power imbalances. She is also the creator of Complex Partner Trauma magazine, available on Amazon, which provides resources and support for betrayed partners.Throughout our conversation, we dive into Reality Collapse, the disorientation that betrayed partners experience, and explore how betrayal violence impacts healing and recovery. Hope shares her expertise on recognizing and navigating these complex emotional experiences, helping listeners regain clarity and reclaim their sense of reality.Key Takeaways from the Episode:
We had the privilege of sitting down with Matthew and Joanna Raabsmith to discuss the transformative power of the Intimacy Pyramid. With their personal story of betrayal, addiction, and healing as the backdrop, the Raabsmiths shared actionable insights and hope for couples looking to rebuild trust, connection, and relational intimacy. The Raabsmiths are passionate leaders in the field of marriage and relationship restoration. Combining their expertise with their lived experience, they empower couples to overcome the challenges of betrayal and relational trauma. As creators of the Intimacy Pyramid, they provide a structured and compassionate approach to help couples rediscover trust, deepen connection, and cultivate true intimacy. Learn more about their groundbreaking work at https://intimacypyramid.com/.Key Takeaways from the Episode:How They Got Started: Matthew and Joanna share their journey into this field, driven by a deep desire to support couples in navigating the complexities of betrayal and healing.Joy in the Work: They reveal the most rewarding aspects of working with couples, including witnessing the transformation and renewed hope in relationships.Challenges in the Healing Process: The Raabsmiths identify key hurdles couples face, emphasizing the importance of patience, vulnerability, and perseverance.The Intimacy Pyramid: This is an amazing tool for guiding couples step-by-step toward thriving intimacy, fostering trust, safety, and mutual understanding.Keys to Success for Both Partners: Insights into what the betraying spouse, the betrayed partner, and the couple as a whole can do to move forward successfully.Personal Story: Matthew and Joanna's candid sharing of their own struggles and triumphs offers hope and relatability for listeners.Connect with Us:
We're excited to welcome Dr. Laura Sanger back to The Betrayal Recovery Transformation Podcast! Dr. Sanger's first episode remains the top fan favorite, and we are thrilled to have her return with another timely and profound message—this time focusing on rest, just in time for the holiday season.Dr. Sanger is a clinical psychologist, author, and the founder of No Longer Enslaved (www.nolongerenslaved.com), where she equips individuals to live free in their God-given identity, authority, and purpose.In this episode, we explore:
On today's episode of The BRT Podcast, we welcome the amazing Stacey Smith. She's the Chief Clinical Officer and a Clinical Therapist at Daring Ventures. With a personal recovery journey from betrayal and "stinkin' thinkin'," Stacey uses her lived experience and professional expertise to guide betrayed partners and those suffering from addiction toward healing. She is certified in EMDR therapy and specializes in helping people overcome attachment wounds and shame. Stacey is passionate about creating a healing partnership with her clients and believes in the transformative power of therapy.Key Highlights:Stacey shares the acronym "Empower" to teach us about Post Betrayal Growth.E - Embrace ChangeM - MovementP -Positive Mentality/MindsetO - Own Your LifeW- Welcome PowerE - Elect a ChoiceR - Resolve to ChooseConnect with Us:Stacey SmithWatermark CoachHealing with the HowiesFollow us on Instagram: @WatermarkCoachingThank you for listening! Don't forget to subscribe, rate, and review our podcast to stay updated on future episodes and help others find the help and support they deserve.
We are thrilled to welcome Elizabeth Abbruzza, the Co-Founder and Clinical Director of the Bellevue Trauma Recovery Center, to the podcast. With a deep focus on relational trauma and betrayal, Elizabeth shares her expertise and details about the impactful Resilience Through Betrayal (RTB) intensives offered at her center. About Elizabeth Abbruzza: Elizabeth holds a Master's degree in Clinical Mental Health Counseling from Gonzaga University and specializes in addressing relational trauma, sex addiction, and problematic sexual behaviors. As a primary therapist for the Resilience Through Betrayal intensives, she empowers individuals to navigate healing after betrayal, offering therapeutic expertise and compassionate care.Key Highlights:Origins of RTB Intensive: Elizabeth explains how the Resilience Through Betrayal program was developed to provide a focused and immersive approach for individuals dealing with betrayal trauma.Daily Structure: Learn what a typical day at RTB intensives entails, including how sessions are structured to balance therapeutic work with emotional well-being.Immediate Client Needs: Discover the importance of creating safety and validation for participants at the beginning of the intensive.Desired Outcomes: Elizabeth outlines the program's goals, which include fostering resilience, self-compassion, and emotional healing.Preventing Overload: Insights are shared on how participants are supported to avoid feeling overwhelmed while engaging in deep therapeutic work.Emotional Transformation Therapy (ETT): In the final section, Elizabeth introduces Emotional Transformation Therapy (ETT), a promising method that fosters healing by addressing deep emotional wounds. This engaging conversation offers hope and new possibilities for recovery.Connect with Us:Elizabeth Abbruzza: Bellevue Trauma Recovery CenterWatermark CoachHealing with the HowiesFollow us on Instagram: @WatermarkCoachingThank you for listening! Don't forget to subscribe, rate, and review our podcast to stay updated on future episodes and help others find the help and support they deserve.
Introduction: Kris and Jenn sit down with Karen Rellos, founder of Restored Hope Coaching and Redeeming Love Marriage Ministry. Karen, a certified betrayal trauma coach, joins the conversation to shed light on a topic that affects many relationships—Intimacy Deprivation, also known as Intimacy Atrophy (IA). With her extensive background in helping women navigate betrayal trauma, Karen offers valuable insights into the causes, impacts, and healing journey surrounding intimacy deprivation in relationships.Key Highlights:What is Intimacy Atrophy?Karen explains Intimacy Atrophy as a gradual loss of emotional, physical, or spiritual connection within a relationship. The term highlights the diminishing closeness and vulnerability in relationships, which can deeply impact both partners.Root Causes of Intimacy Deprivation:According to Karen, the root causes of Intimacy Atrophy often lie in unresolved emotional wounds, betrayal trauma, or avoidance of vulnerability. She discusses how individuals who struggle with intimacy deprivation may have past hurts or emotional blockages that prevent them from fully engaging in the relationship.Behaviors and Coping Mechanisms:Karen outlines common behaviors associated with intimacy deprivation, including emotional withdrawal, detachment, or the avoidance of meaningful connection. These coping mechanisms may develop as a way to shield oneself from emotional pain but ultimately contribute to a lack of closeness in the relationship.Impact on the Partner and Relationship:Karen explains how intimacy atrophy can lead to feelings of rejection, loneliness, and frustration in the partner who desires deeper connection, creating further strain and misunderstandings.Healing and Recovery:Karen emphasizes that healing from intimacy deprivation is possible. She describes the recovery process, which involves addressing the root causes, developing emotional awareness, and taking intentional steps toward rebuilding intimacy. A Word of Encouragement:In closing, Karen offers a heartfelt message to listeners, encouraging them to stay committed to the journey of healing and growth. She reminds them that it's possible to rekindle intimacy and build stronger, more fulfilling connections.Connect with Us:Karen Rellos: Restored Hope Coaching and Redeeming Love Marriage Ministry.Watermark CoachHealing with the HowiesFollow us on Instagram: @WatermarkCoachingThank you for listening! Don't forget to subscribe, rate, and review our podcast to stay updated on future episodes and help others find the help and support they deserve.
In this episode, we welcome Diane Schnickels, founder of Living Waters of Hope and a dedicated advocate for survivors of domestic abuse. Diane brings her extensive experience and compassionate approach to discuss when sex addiction crosses the line into abuse. She has developed crucial resources like the Oasis Bible Study and the Hope Giver Essentials training program, empowering women to heal and reclaim their lives. Today, Diane shares her insights on recognizing the signs of abuse related to sex addiction and provides valuable guidance on supporting those affected.Key Highlights:Deceit and Betrayal: Repeated lying and secretive behavior that creates mistrust.Emotional Manipulation: Gaslighting and minimizing actions that distort reality.Neglect and Abandonment: The emotional neglect caused by prioritizing addiction over the relationship.Sexual Coercion or Pressure: The importance of consent and respecting boundaries.Financial Exploitation: Misuse of joint finances for addiction-related expenses.Exposure to STDs: Health risks posed by undisclosed risky sexual behaviors.Impact on Mental Health: Anxiety, depression, and PTSD as consequences of dealing with a partner's sex addiction.Connect with Us:Living Waters of HopeVisit our website: Watermark CoachFollow us on Instagram: @WatermarkCoachingThank you for listening! Don't forget to subscribe, rate, and review our podcast to stay updated on future episodes and help others find the help and support they deserve.
On this episode of BRT, we have a special guest, Pastor Nick Stumbo. Nick is the Executive Director of Pure Desire Ministries and has an extensive background in pastoral ministry. He began his ministry career at East Hills Alliance Church in Kelso, Washington, where he served as lead pastor for over a decade. Confronted with his own pornography addiction, Nick and his wife, Michelle, found hope and healing through Pure Desire's counseling and group ministries. His public disclosure led to a revival of forgiveness and healing within his church, and he continues to lead the way in helping churches become places of healing. Episode Description: In this episode, Kris, Jenn, and Nick share a powerful message for pastors and clergy on effectively supporting women going through betrayal trauma. Using the analogy of how a paramedic would treat a severe wound, they provide six key steps for clergy and support personnel to follow:Key Highlights:Assess the Severity of the Wound - Listen to Her: Nick emphasizes the importance of actively listening to the betrayed spouse, believing her reality, and displaying genuine sympathy. Show kindness and care to provide solace during her crisis.Stop the Bleeding - Focus on the immediate need, not the marriage. Avoid cause-and-effect thinking and allow her to express her emotions and needs at her own pace. Asking "permission questions" will help the clergy better understand her urgent concerns and priorities.Bandage the Wound & Stabilize the Patient - Educate Her About the Healing Process. Inform her there is a healing process, and she will not be alone. Don't Rush Forgiveness: Understand forgiveness and avoid minimizing the situation. Guide Her in the Present: Help her focus on the "now" and provide comfort and hope. Teach the Keys to Rebuilding Trust: Discuss sincerity, ability, and durability as crucial elements of rebuilding trust.Treat for Shock - Normalize the Experience: Minimize isolation, emotional flooding, and embarrassment by providing community and helping her deal with emotions. Provide Community: Connect her with others who understand her situation and can offer support.Support the Injury - Offer Support: Provide resources, encourage her to grieve, help her establish a circle of trust, and teach the importance of healthy boundaries.If the Wound is Too Severe, Call 911 - Ask for Help: Refer her to trained professionals like CSATs, PSAPs, CCPSs, and C-SASIs for specialized support. "When in doubt, refer out!"Connect with Us:Visit our website: Watermark CoachFollow us on Instagram: @WatermarkCoachingPure Desire Ministries: https://puredesire.orgThank you for listening! Don't forget to subscribe, rate, and review our podcast to stay updated on future episodes.
Welcome to the 20th episode of The Betrayal Recovery Transformation Podcast! This is a significant milestone for us, and we're thrilled to celebrate it with a special guest, Debby Flanagan. Debby is a clinician with Pure Desire Ministries, where she serves as a Pastoral Sex Addiction Professional. She holds a Bachelor's degree from Corban University and has an Advanced Certification through the International Institute for Trauma and Addiction Professionals (IITAP). Debby is dedicated to helping individuals who are struggling with sexual and emotional issues, guiding them through their healing journey with compassion and expertise.Episode Description: In this milestone episode, we dive deep into the topic of trauma with Debby Flanagan. Debby shares her profound knowledge of trauma, how it affects our brain and body, and its impacts on our relationships. She also discusses common signs and symptoms of trauma, how to recognize it within ourselves, practical strategies for recovery, and ways to support someone who is dealing with trauma.Key Highlights:Understanding Trauma:Debby explains what trauma is and the different forms it can take. She provides insights into how trauma can stem from various sources and how it manifests in our lives.Effects on Brain and Body:Learn about the physiological and psychological impacts of trauma. Debby discusses how trauma affects brain function, the nervous system, and overall physical health.Impacts on Relationships:Discover how trauma can influence our interactions and relationships. Debby highlights the challenges and dynamics that trauma introduces into personal and interpersonal connections.Common Signs and Symptoms:Debby outlines the typical signs and symptoms of trauma, helping listeners to identify these in themselves or others. Understanding these indicators is crucial for initiating the healing process.Recognizing Trauma Within Ourselves:Debby shares strategies for self-awareness and self-reflection to recognize trauma within ourselves. She emphasizes the importance of acknowledging and validating our experiences.Practical Strategies for Recovery:Gain practical advice and tools for trauma recovery. Debby discusses therapeutic approaches, self-care practices, and coping mechanisms that can aid in the healing journey.Supporting Someone with Trauma:Learn how to support someone who is dealing with trauma effectively. Debby guides by offering empathy, creating a safe space, and encouraging professional help.Connect with Us:Visit our website: Watermark CoachFollow us on Instagram: @WatermarkCoachingLearn more about Tammy's work: Betrayal HealingThank you for listening! Don't forget to subscribe, rate, and review our podcast to stay updated on future episodes.
Join hosts Kris Rocha and Jenn Howie for another enlightening episode of The Betrayal Recovery Transformation Podcast. Today, we welcome back Tammy Gustafson, a renowned betrayal trauma coach, therapist, writer, and speaker. Tammy is here to delve deeper into her "Four Phases of Healing After Betrayal," sharing her expert insights and personal experiences. This episode is packed with valuable information, laughter, and heartfelt moments.About Tammy Gustafson: Tammy Gustafson is the founder of Betrayal Healing, a platform dedicated to helping women navigate the painful healing journey after betrayal. With over 15 years of experience as a licensed professional counselor specializing in trauma and PTSD, Tammy brings both professional expertise and personal understanding to her work. She is passionate about empowering women to reclaim their peace, confidence, and self-worth.Key Highlights:Phase 1: RevealIn this initial phase, Tammy explains how individuals often feel shattered and overwhelmed by the betrayal. This phase focuses on uncovering the truth and acknowledging the reality of the situation. It's about confronting the painful facts and starting the journey towards healing.Phase 2: RumbleThis phase involves wrestling with the emotional turmoil and confusion that follow the discovery of betrayal. Tammy emphasizes the importance of processing these intense emotions and beginning to understand their impact on one's life and relationships.Phase 3: RealignTammy outlines strategies for realigning one's life and identity after betrayal. This phase is about setting boundaries, rediscovering self-worth, and creating a new vision for the future. It's a time for making conscious choices about what one wants their life to look like moving forward.Phase 4: RebuildIn the final phase, Tammy talks about rebuilding and thriving beyond the pain of betrayal. This phase highlights the journey towards regaining joy, strength, and a renewed sense of purpose. It's about constructing a life that reflects one's true values and aspirations.Conclusion: Tune in to this insightful episode as Tammy Gustafson breaks down her Four Phases of Healing After Betrayal. Laugh with us, learn from Tammy's profound wisdom, and take away practical tools to aid in your own healing journey. Subscribe to The Betrayal Recovery Transformation Podcast for more empowering stories and expert guidance on recovery and transformation.Connect with Us:Visit our website: Watermark CoachFollow us on Instagram: @WatermarkCoachingLearn more about Tammy's work: Betrayal HealingThank you for listening! Don't forget to subscribe, rate, and review our podcast to stay updated on future episodes.
In this mind-shifting, insightful episode of The Betrayal Recovery Transformation Podcast, Jenn and I had the pleasure of hosting Dr. Jill Manning. Dr. Manning is warm, caring, knowledgeable, and passionate about helping women heal. Today, she shares her expertise on a topic she's passionate about ... the impact of snooping, especially in the context of betrayal trauma. Get your notebooks ready, friends. This episode is packed with excellent information, tools, and tips.About Dr. Jill Manning: Dr. Manning is a respected expert in the field of betrayal trauma. Her compassionate approach and wealth of knowledge demonstrate her dedication to helping women navigate their healing journeys.Key Points Discussed:Understanding Snooping: Dr. Manning explains snooping as an attempt to uncover information without direct confrontation. This can include searching through devices, reading personal journals, or hiring a private investigator.Why People Snoop: It is common for individuals to snoop when they suspect deception or betrayal. Dr. Manning discusses the underlying motivations and the short-term sense of empowerment that snooping can bring.Impact of Prolonged Snooping: The discussion covers the adverse effects of continued snooping, such as elevated stress levels, prolonged trauma symptoms, and increased mistrust of oneself and others.Effects on Relationships: Dr. Manning highlights how snooping can damage relationships by reinforcing indirect communication, decreasing safety and respect, and keeping the relationship stuck in a toxic cycle.Effective Strategies for Getting Information: Instead of snooping, Dr. Manning recommends focusing on self-care, setting effective boundaries, and using healthier methods to address suspicions and obtain information.A Compassionate Invitation to Stop Snooping: Dr. Manning invites listeners to stop snooping, emphasizing that it deteriorates mental health and complicates trauma healing over time. She encourages finding supportive steps to foster growth and healing without resorting to snooping.You can contact Dr. Jill Manning here:https://drjillmanning.comInsta: @drjillmanningTo receive Dr. Jill's FREE "The Impact of Snooping" handout, please email us at thebrtpodcast@gmail.com.Thank you for listening! Don't forget to subscribe, rate, and review our podcast to stay updated on future episodes and help others find the help and support they need.
Adrienne Friesen joins us on this episode about supporting a friend through trauma. She has been our friend for over 20 years and we can attest that she is naturally gifted at supporting and comforting friends during difficult and traumatic times in their lives. Today, she shares her wisdom and practical advice on how to be a steadfast friend during difficult times.Key Points Discussed:Active Listening: Adrienne emphasizes the importance of truly listening to your friends. It's not just about hearing their words but also about understanding their emotions and validating their experiences.Offering Encouragement Without Bypassing Reality: Adrienne discusses encouraging friends without minimizing their pain or trying to fix their problems quickly. Acknowledging the reality of their situation is crucial.Creating a Safe Space: Learn how to create an environment where your friend feels safe to express their true feelings without judgment.Helping Others Stay Connected: Adrienne discusses the significance of assisting friends to stay connected with their community and support systems, even when they feel isolated by their trauma.Offering Practical Help: Practical support can be incredibly beneficial. Adrienne shares examples of ways to provide tangible help without overstepping boundaries.Tune in to this episode for insightful tips and heartfelt advice on being a supportive friend to someone navigating the rough waters of trauma.Thank you for listening! Don't forget to subscribe, rate, and review our podcast to stay updated on future episodes.
Join hosts Kris Rocha and Jenn Howie in this special Story Spotlight episode of The Betrayal Recovery Transformation Podcast. Today, they are honored to feature author and speaker Tess Scott, who shares her inspiring journey of overcoming shame and replacing it with forgiveness and stepping into God's purpose for her life.About Tess Scott: Tess Scott is a hilarious Christian speaker, a "black sheep turned Jesus girl", and the award-winning author of "Listen, Sister! Finding Hope in the Freakshow of Life." As a Canadian mother of 8, Tess is on a mission to help women with messy stories shed their shame and find hope.Key Highlights:From Black Sheep to Jesus Girl:Tess shares her transformation journey, from feeling like the black sheep to finding solace and redemption in her faith.Finding Hope in the Freakshow of Life:As an award-winning author, Tess delves into her book "Listen, Sister!" and shares how she found hope amid life's chaos.Overcoming Shame:Tess opens up about her struggles with shame and how she learned to shed it, embracing God's plan and purpose for her life.Encouragement for Others:With her infectious humor and inspiring story, Tess encourages others to confront their shame, embrace their messy stories, and find hope and healing.Tess is passionate about helping others eliminate toxic shame and finding transformative freedom in Christ. She'd love to hear from you! Connect with Tess here: Home - Listen, sister... (tessscott.com)Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/listensistertessscottInsta: Listen Sister Encouragement (@listensister_encouragement) • Instagram photos and videos*** If you found this episode valuable, don't forget to subscribe, rate, and share The Betrayal Recovery Transformation Podcast to help others find the help and healing they need. ***Coaching with Jenn & Kris:www.watermarkcoach.comwww.healingwiththehowies.comThis podcast is produced with the support of:www.purelifealliance.com
Grab a coffee or your favorite cup of tea and curl up with hosts Kris Rocha and Jenn Howie in this enlightening episode inspired by Dr. Jill Manning's thought-provoking Instagram post on Secondary Trauma. This conversation is a balance between depth and lightness as they explore Dr. Manning's list of secondary trauma examples.Key Highlights: Insightful Exploration: In this segment, Kris and Jenn delve into the nuances of secondary trauma, offering a deeper understanding of its manifestations and impacts on us.Light-hearted Conversations: Experience an engaging dialogue that blends profound insights with moments of humor. Kris and Jenn create a safe space for listeners to explore this topic openly.Brainstorming Solutions: Discover practical coping mechanisms and effective strategies to address secondary trauma as Kris and Jenn lead discussions in this segment.Helpful Takeaways: Kris and Jenn distill their experiences and knowledge to offer practical guidance for navigating secondary trauma.You've got a seat at the table for an episode that goes beyond the surface, providing information along with a sense of camaraderie and understanding. We're so glad you're here!*** If you found this episode valuable, don't forget to subscribe, rate, and share The Betrayal Recovery Transformation Podcast to help others find the help and healing they need. ***Coaching with Jenn & Kris:www.watermarkcoach.comwww.healingwiththehowies.comThis podcast is produced with the support of:www.purelifealliance.com
In this POWERFUL episode of The Betrayal Recovery Transformation Podcast, we are honored to host Dr. Laura Sanger, a dedicated scholar, prophetic intercessor, and spiritual warrior. Dr. Sanger brings a wealth of knowledge, blending her expertise in theology and clinical psychology, to delve into the profound topic of generational iniquity.Key Topics Explored:1) Generational Iniquity:Dr. Sanger unpacks the concept of generational iniquity, offering profound insights into how the patterns of the past can influence and enslave our present and future, affecting generations to come if left unaddressed.2) Spiritual Mapping and Breaking Strongholds:Listeners gain valuable teachings on spiritual mapping and the process of breaking strongholds, understanding the spiritual warfare involved in overcoming generational iniquity.3) Bible History and References:Dr. Sanger enriches the episode with an impressive array of Bible history, facts, references, and teachings, providing a deep dive into the scriptural foundations of her profound insights.4) Coping with Significant Loss:Addressing the impact of significant loss on one's perspective, Dr. Sanger offers empathetic reflections on how such experiences can skew our identity, hope, and worldview.5) The Healing Power of Gratitude:The episode concludes with a transformative discussion on the healing power of gratitude. Dr. Sanger emphasizes the importance of thankfulness as a life preserver, referencing the wisdom of Ann Voskamp: "Gratitude isn't merely the way we feel some of the time. Gratitude is the way we frame all of our lives." Join us as Dr. Laura Sanger guides us through the intricacies of spiritual warfare, the significance of breaking strongholds, and the transformative power of gratitude in renewing our minds.About Dr. Laura Sanger:Holding an M.A. in Theology and a Ph.D. in Clinical Psychology from Fuller Theological Seminary, she has spent years researching and writing extensively, notably with the authorship of her book The Roots of the Federal Reserve. Dr. Sanger is not just a scholar but a passionate advocate for spiritual freedom, having experienced the liberating power of Jesus firsthand.To Connect with Dr. Laura:www.nolongerenslaved.comInstagram: @laurasanger444hzYouTube Channel: @nolongerenslavedCoaching with Jenn & Kris:www.watermarkcoach.comwww.healingwiththehowies.comThis podcast is produced with the support of:www.purelifealliance.com
On this episode of The BRT Podcast we're joined by the remarkable Hannah Wachter—a coach, encourager, and "a warm cup of tea for your grieving heart" with over fourteen years of experience as a grief expert. Hannah has a unique, personal journey that has equipped her with a compassionate lens to guide others and walk beside them in their pain, and help them heal.Key Takeaways:1. Transforming Pain into Purpose:Becoming a grief coach after losing her mother unexpectedly is a testament to Hannah's gift of transforming pain into purpose. With kindness and clarity, she encourages others to embrace their value and worth. On the podcast, she shares her expertise on navigating grief and the therapeutic benefits for our minds, bodies, souls, and spirits.2. Understanding Grief:Hannah provides deep insights into what grief truly is, breaking down the stages of grief and unraveling the complexities that come with it. She emphasizes that grief is not a sign of a broken head but a broken heart—a perspective that reshapes how we approach and support those in deep grief.3. Supporting Others in Grief:Learn valuable tips on how to support someone in the throes of grief. Hannah's wisdom extends to practical advice on being present, offering comfort, and understanding that the only cure for grief is, indeed, grieving.4. The 15 Minute Method:Hannah introduces the therapeutic approach of The 15-Minute method—an insightful way to process grief and navigate its waves. Discover how this method can be a gentle yet effective tool in your healing journey.About Our Guest - Hannah Wachter:Certified in The Grief Recovery Method, Hannah holds a Masters in Christian Leadership and a BA in Religious Studies. Currently serving as the Minister of Music at Pleasant Valley Church in Happy Valley, Oregon, she brings a unique blend of spirituality and practicality to her coaching. A gifted writer, speaker, and singer, Hannah is determined to use her voice to help others know and believe in their own value and worth. To find out more about working with Hannah, visit her website: https://hannahwachter.squarespace.com/If you found this episode valuable, don't forget to subscribe, rate, and share The Betrayal Recovery Transformation Podcast to help others find the help and healing they need.Coaching with Jenn & Kris:www.watermarkcoach.comwww.healingwiththehowies.comThis podcast is produced with the support of:www.purelifealliance.com
Welcome back to another empowering episode of The Betrayal Recovery Transformation Podcast! In this edition, we're honored to host Tammy Gustafson, a renowned betrayal trauma coach, writer, and speaker. With over 13 years of experience as a licensed professional counselor specializing in PTSD and trauma, Tammy is a fount of wisdom and healing. In this episode, she takes us on a journey of reclaiming our lives after betrayal.Key Takeaways:1. Rebuild with Tammy's 4-Phase Process: Tammy Gustafson unveils her transformative 4-phase process for healing after betrayal. In this episode, she delves specifically into the Rebuild phase—the crucial stage where individuals find the strength to reconstruct their lives. To explore which phase you're in, take the free quiz Tammy has crafted at [www.betrayalhealing.com/quiz].2. Tools for Transformation: Delve into a rich conversation filled with practical tools and applicable wisdom. Tammy shares insights on healing from betrayal, understanding and managing the effects of trauma, and the art of setting healthy boundaries. These tools are invaluable for anyone navigating the tumultuous aftermath of betrayal.3. Betrayal Healing Conference: Learn about Tammy's impactful initiative—the Betrayal Healing Conference. Discover how this platform brings together individuals seeking healing and provides a supportive community for shared stories, insights, and collective empowerment.4. Reparenting for Healing: Tammy sheds light on the profound concept of reparenting, a vital aspect of the healing journey. Discover how nurturing and caring for your inner self can be a catalyst for profound personal transformation.5. Forgiveness: Tammy, Kris and Jenn share insights on forgiveness—an integral part of the healing process. Understand the power of forgiveness in freeing yourself from the shackles of betrayal, when to forgive, and how to forgive, and so much more.These key takeaways offer a glimpse into the transformative wisdom Tammy Gustafson imparts in this episode, providing not just insights, but actionable steps for your healing process and empowerment.For more information on Tammy Gustafson, go to:www.instagram.com/tammylgustafsonwww.betrayalhealing.comIf you found this episode valuable, don't forget to subscribe, rate, and share The Betrayal Recovery Transformation Podcast to help others find the help and healing they need.Thank you for joining us for this important conversation about navigating conflict and fostering healthy resolutions.Coaching with Jenn & Kris:www.watermarkcoach.comwww.healingwiththehowies.comThis podcast is produced with the support of:www.purelifealliance.com
This Christmas, we want to acknowledge the bittersweet reality that the holidays can be tough, especially when you're carrying the weight of betrayal and grief.In the midst of twinkling lights and festive cheer, we recognize that for some, the holidays magnify feelings of loss and heartache. It's okay to feel that ache, and it's okay to prioritize your healing during this time. Together, let's embrace the complexities, honor our emotions, and find moments of solace.Join us for a brief episode that reminds you that you're not alone in navigating the unique challenges of this season. Your feelings are valid, and we're here to offer support, understanding, and a message of hope.Betrayal Coaching with Jenn or Kris:www.healingwiththehowies.comwww.watermarkcoach.comThis podcast is produced with the support of:www.purelifealliance.com
On today's episode, we have the privilege of hosting Andrew Arthur, a seasoned conflict management expert, certified mediator, and CPS (Certified Co-Parent Specialist). Andrew brings more than 25 years of experience in coaching and guiding individuals through the intricate landscape of conflict. In this episode, he unravels the critical steps to healthy conflict resolution: Repair, Resolve, Reconcile, and Restore.Key Takeaways:1. The Journey of Healthy Conflict: Andrew guides us through the transformative journey of healthy conflict. He emphasizes that conflict, when managed properly, can be a catalyst for growth and stronger relationships. The key lies in understanding the dynamics and approaching it with intention.2. Conflict Styles and Relationship Skills: Delving into the intricacies of conflict, Andrew discusses different conflict styles and the crucial role of relationship skills in navigating disagreements. Understanding these aspects can be transformative in how we approach and engage with conflict in our personal and professional lives.3. Steps to Healthy Conflict Resolution: Andrew introduces us to the four essential steps—Repair, Resolve, Reconcile, and Restore—that form the foundation of healthy conflict resolution. These steps offer a roadmap for individuals and families to navigate conflicts in a way that brings about peaceful resolutions and restores relational harmony.4. The Critical Art of Listening: One of the cornerstones of conflict resolution, according to Andrew, is the critical art of listening. He shares insights into how effective listening can de-escalate conflicts, build empathy, and pave the way for understanding.About Our Guest - Andrew Arthur: As a certified mediator and CPS, Andrew has dedicated his career to helping people repair, resolve, reconcile, and restore relationships strained by conflict. His extensive experience in coaching, leadership, and mediation has made him a valuable guide for individuals navigating conflicts in their community, workplace, and personal lives.For more information about Andrew Arthur and his conflict management services, visit https://genesismediation.com.If you found this episode valuable, don't forget to subscribe, rate, and share The Betrayal Recovery Transformation Podcast.Thank you for joining us for this important conversation about navigating conflict and fostering healthy resolutions.Coaching with Jenn & Kris:www.watermarkcoach.comwww.healingwiththehowies.comThis podcast is produced with the support of:www.purelifealliance.com
Our guest on today's podcast is the Executive Director of Pure Life Alliance Ministries, Jeremy Waldridge. Jeremy shares a little about his own story, marriage recovery, the origins of Pure Life Alliance, and what the ministry is passionate about - helping couples recover and heal from unwanted sexual behavior and betrayal trauma. From their website: "Pure Life Alliance is committed to restoring wholeness for those affected by sexual brokenness. Our vision is to see lives change through a network of people passionate about sexual purity." Jeremy shares with us the impactful work of Pure Life Alliance Ministries in supporting individuals and couples on their journey of recovery and sheds light on the unique programs and resources offered by the organization to facilitate lasting healing and restoration.Join us for candid conversation, valuable guidance, relatable experiences, and a few laughs! We hope you'll feel seen, supported, validated, and equipped with new tools and options as you move forward.To learn more about Pure Life Alliance Ministries and discover additional resources for marriage recovery, visit their website, www.purelifealliance.com. Don't forget to subscribe to the Betrayal Recovery Transformation Podcast for more empowering conversations, and please be sure to leave a review wherever you listen to podcasts. This will help others find us and get the help and support they need.Thank you for joining us!Coaching with Jenn & Kris:www.watermarkcoach.comwww.healingwiththehowies.comThis podcast is produced with the support of:www.purelifealliance.com
Friends ... Jenn and I are so honored and excited to introduce you all to two incredible women, Ally and Sarah. They just happen to be two of our favorite women on the planet, and we have no doubt you'll have the same opinion of them by the end of this episode!Ally and Sarah opened their hearts and shared the experiences and benefits they realized from joining a betrayal trauma recovery group, reminding us all of the healing power found in shared stories, gathering trusted community, and compassionate connections.Key Takeaways:1. Community and Compassion: Ally and Sarah emphasize the importance of community in their healing journey. Within their betrayal trauma group, they found a safe space among women who understood their pain intimately. This shared understanding cultivated an atmosphere of compassion, providing the foundation for their healing.2. The Power of Shared Stories: Hearing the experiences of other women provided countless pivotal moments for Ally and Sarah. The shared stories not only validated their own reality but also offered diverse perspectives and healing strategies. These shared narratives became beacons of hope, illuminating their path toward recovery.3. Learning New Healing Tools: The betrayal trauma group introduced Ally and Sarah to a plethora of healing tools. From learning the importance of self-care to therapeutic techniques, they learned valuable skills to help them navigate the complexities stemming from betrayal trauma. These tools became essential in their process of pursuing their own healing.4. Processing Experiences and Finding Validation: Processing their experiences within the group provided Ally and Sarah with a sense of validation. The group offered them a platform to express their pain, fears, questions and hopes without judgment. Being heard and understood by others who had walked similar paths was profoundly validating, reinforcing their resilience.5. Vulnerability Leading to Lifelong Friendships: While the initial step of joining a group of strangers felt vulnerable, Ally and Sarah discovered that vulnerability led to profound connections. In the process, they formed life-long friendships. The group became a support network they depended on almost daily, which transformed their healing process and demonstrated the enduring power of human connection.6. Gratitude and Empowerment: Ally and Sarah express their deep gratitude for their betrayal trauma group. Their experiences highlight the transformational journey from vulnerability to empowerment. They share how this newfound strength empowers them to face life's challenges with courage and resilience.To learn more about betrayal trauma support groups and discover additional resources, please visit our websites listed below. For more inspiring conversations and empowering stories, subscribe to The Betrayal Recovery Transformation Podcast and please consider leaving a review. This helps others find us.Thank you for joining us!Coaching with Jenn & Kris:www.watermarkcoach.comwww.healingwiththehowies.comThis podcast is produced with the support of:www.purelifealliance.com
On this amazing episode of BRT, we are honored to welcome the delightful and inspiring Jenna Riemersma! She is the founder and clinical director of The Atlanta Center for Relational Healing. Jenna, a distinguished teaching faculty member at the International Institute of Trauma and Addiction Professionals (IITAP), is a beacon of wisdom in the realms of mental health and trauma recovery. As a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), Level III Internal Family Systems (IFS) Therapist, EMDR therapist, Certified Sex Addiction Therapist Supervisor (CSAT-S), Certified Multiple Addiction Therapist Supervisor (CMAT-S), and a National Certified Counselor (NCC), Jenna brings a wealth of knowledge and experience to our conversation.Jenna has a profound dedication to Internal Family Systems (IFS) Therapy and loves to share her remarkable knowledge and insights with others, providing hope and acute healing to all who listen. You're going to LOVE her as much as we do!Key Takeaways:1. Journey into IFS Therapy: Jenna takes our listeners on a deep and insightful exploration of Internal Family Systems (IFS). Through her compassionate guidance, she unveils this powerful therapeutic approach, revealing its transformative potential for personal healing and relational growth.2. The Power of Faith and Authentic Living: Drawing from her personal experiences and professional expertise, Jenna teaches us about our "parts" and the intersection of faith, mental health, and authentic living.3. Guided IFS Therapy Session: In a truly transformative segment, Jenna leads our listeners through a guided IFS therapy session. This immersive experience allows you to witness the power of IFS Therapy firsthand, providing a glimpse into the healing potential it offers.4. Infusing Hope and Life-Giving Information: Throughout the episode, Jenna infuses hope. and validation. Her genuine warmth and deep knowledge of IFS create an atmosphere of safety and understanding. Listeners will walk away not only enlightened but also empowered, armed with life-giving information to aid their own healing journeys.5. Jenna's Best-Selling Book: "Altogether You" and Upcoming Release "Altogether Us": Learn about Jenna's best-selling book, "Altogether You," a source of comfort and guidance for countless readers. Discover exciting insights about her upcoming release, "Altogether Us," a book poised to provide further wisdom and support to those seeking healing through IFS. Prepare to be inspired, informed, and encouraged!Coaching with Jenn or Kris:www.healingwiththehowies.comwww.watermarkcoach.comThis podcast is produced with the support of:www.purelifealliance.comTo explore Jenna Riemersma's work, including her best-selling book "Altogether You" and updates on the forthcoming "Altogether Us," visit her website: https://jennariemersma.com,For more empowering conversations and expert insights, subscribe to The Betrayal Recovery Transformation Podcast wherever you listen to podcasts, and please leave a review. This will help others to find us.Thank you for joining us!
Therapist Eileen Fagan, an expert in trauma therapy, shares her unique approach to trauma and self-regulation, guiding us through an "order of operations" - SAFE - that can help navigate the stormy seas of emotional turmoil. Drawing wisdom from God's word and modern therapeutic techniques, Eileen sheds light on how we can find solace and strength amidst trauma.1. STOP - Slow down and be still (Psalm 23:1): Eileen introduces the first step, encouraging us to pause amidst the chaos. Through stillness, we find clarity. She beautifully connects this practice to the calming verses of Psalm 23:1, emphasizing the importance of slowing down to regain control of our emotions.2. ACCEPT - Accept the discomfort and get curious (Psalm 23:4): Eileen delves into the art of acceptance, urging us to acknowledge our discomfort. By embracing our feelings, we open doors to understanding and healing. Referencing Psalm 23:4, Eileen teaches us to be curious about what lies beneath the discomfort, fostering a profound sense of self-awareness.3. FEAST - Practice gratitude and remember blessings (Psalm 23:5): Gratitude becomes a transformative tool in Eileen's "order of operations." She encourages us to feast on the blessings we have, even amidst pain. Drawing from the wisdom of Psalm 23:5, Eileen reminds us that practicing gratitude can illuminate even the darkest of days, reassuring us that our pain is not in vain.4. ENCOURAGE - Believe in God's plan and take heart (Psalm 23:6): Eileen shares the empowering final step, where faith takes center stage. Referencing Psalm 23:6, Eileen instills a profound sense of hope, reminding us to remember God's faithfulness and goodness. "He uses our pain in the present with purpose for our future. In God, nothing is wasted."Eileen Fagan:www.transformationcounseling.orgCoaching with Jenn & Kris:www.healingwiththehowies.comwww.watermarkcoach.comThis podcast is produced with the support of:www.purelifealliance.com
We're honored to host the amazing Dr. Steve Stephens, a seasoned psychologist with over 35 years of experience and the author of an astounding 45 books! Dr. Steve is not only a renowned life coach but also a captivating speaker, university teacher, and a true expert in the art of building resilience and overcoming hardship.Join us as we embark on an enlightening conversation with Dr. Steve about a subject that lies at the heart of resilience. In a world filled with challenges, setbacks, and betrayals, building resilience becomes essential. Dr. Steve's wealth of knowledge and expertise will help guide us through this journey of personal growth, empowerment, and transformation.Discover the keys to bouncing back from adversity, learning from life's toughest moments, and emerging stronger than ever before. Dr. Steve's profound insights and practical advice are not to be missed. Whether you're navigating the aftermath of betrayal or simply seeking to enhance your resilience, this episode offers valuable wisdom for all.S - Self-careO - OptimismL - LearnI - IdentifyD - DreamG - GratitudeO - Offer (pay it forward)G - GiftsP - PassionsS - Strengths" We are the image of God ... and dirt." - Dr. Steve StephensDr. Steve's new book: A World Away From Home can be purchased on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/World-Away-Home-Icelandic-Restless/dp/1667898191/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1690WAMSL9SL3&keywords=A+world+away+from+home&qid=1695702556&sprefix=a+world+away+from+home%2Caps%2C155&sr=8-1Coaching with Jenn & Kris:www.healingwiththehowies.comwww.watermarkcoach.comThis podcast is produced with the support of:www.purelifealliance.com
On our 4th episode of The BRT Podcast, we're excited to introduce you all to Ashley Sears, the founder of Stories Unveiled! Join us as Ashley shares her deeply personal journey, which led her to uncover the transformative power of storytelling and inspired her to create an annual conference dedicated to helping others find freedom and purpose in the telling of their stories. In her words, "The Stories Unveiled Conference was designed to break down the walls around our stories and create a place for women to share their lives and how God has redeemed them."Episode Overview:Introduction:We're delighted to have Ashley Sears, the visionary behind Stories Unveiled, join us as a guest. Through her own compelling narrative, Ashley invites us to discover the beauty and strength that emerge from sharing our stories of pain and triumph.Personal Story Ignites a Passion:Ashley delves into her own past, sharing pivotal moments that sparked her journey of healing and self-discovery. Her personal experiences not only laid the foundation for her resilience but also ignited the fire that led to the creation of Stories Unveiled.Unveiling Stories Unveiled:Learn about Stories Unveiled, an annual conference that empowers women to find purpose within their narratives and break free from the chains of their past. Ashley's passion for creating a safe space for sharing, healing, and growth shines through as she describes the heart behind this transformative event.Transformative Power of Sharing:Ashley shares how opening up about her own story allowed her to connect with others on a profound level. She reveals the liberating impact of vulnerability and how it has the potential to create an unbreakable bond between individuals who have faced similar struggles.Finding Freedom Through Storytelling:Discover how Stories Unveiled provides a platform for individuals to step into their truth and embrace their stories – both the pain and the triumphs. Ashley's insights highlight the importance of giving voice to our experiences and how it can lead to profound healing.Connect with Stories Unveiled:Ashley directs listeners to the Stories Unveiled website (https://www.storiesunveiledconference.com) where they can learn more about the conference, its mission, and how to participate.Coaching with Jenn & Kris:www.healingwiththehowies.comwww.watermarkcoach.comThis podcast is produced with the support of:www.purelifealliance.com
Welcome to another episode of "The Betrayal Recovery Transformation Podcast," where we feature a compelling and hopeful story in our "Story Spotlight" series.Your co-host, Kris Rocha, opens up about her challenging upbringing within a complex family system centered on image, and how she found healing, freedom, and transformation through the unexpected catalyst of betrayal trauma.Kris shares the tools and strategies she employed to break free from toxic patterns and "get the fork out", emphasizing the power of forgiveness, reconciling her God concept, and understanding her God-purposed and respectfully created identity.Tune in to hear Kris's inspirational journey of recovery, gratitude, and resilience, and learn that God truly does not waste our pain.Coaching with Jenn & Kris:www.healingwiththehowies.comwww.watermarkcoach.comThis podcast is produced with the support of:www.purelifealliance.com
In this heartfelt episode of The Betrayal Recovery Transformation Podcast, your host Jenn Howie opens up about her personal journey – a journey that has shaped her into the compassionate advocate for healing she is today.Jenn shares a powerful narrative that sheds light on the complexities of betrayal, the arduous path to recovery, and the profound transformation that's possible when we find the strength to heal. Her courage in sharing her vulnerabilities creates a space of connection and understanding for listeners on a similar path.Join us for this intimate and moving episode as Jenn Howie shares her story. We hope you'll find hope, help, and a healing dose of encouragement.Coaching with Jenn & Kris:www.healingwiththehowies.comwww.watermarkcoach.comThis podcast is produced with the support of:www.purelifealliance.com
Welcome to the inaugural episode of the Betrayal Recovery Transformation Podcast with your hosts Kris Rocha and Jenn Howie. In this episode, we're diving deep into the tumultuous journey that begins when you've just discovered your partner's betrayal. Whether you're just starting on this path or need a reminder along the way, this episode acts as a survival guide to help you navigate the trauma you're experiencing and help you find your way to healing quickly.Episode Overview:D-Day and Betrayal Trauma (01:04)Where Do I Go When D-Day Happens? (05:55)Understanding Pain Shopping (10:00)Nurturing Your Soul Through Soul Care (13:51)Discovering Additional Resources (20:58)LINKS:Coaching with Jenn & Kris:Watermark Coaching with Kris Rocha: https://www.watermarkcoach.com/homeHealing with the Howies, Jenn Howie: https://healingwiththehowies.com/Betrayal Recovery Organizations:Pure Life Alliance: https://www.purelifealliance.com/Be Broken: https://www.bebroken.org/Daring Adventures: https://go.drjakeporter.com/?r_done=1Bethesda Workshops: https://www.bethesdaworkshops.org/423 Communities: https://www.423communities.org/Pure Desire Ministries: https://puredesire.org/Green Shoe Foundation: https://www.greenshoe.org/Recommended Podcasts:The Living Truth: https://living-truth.org/podcast/Pure Sex Radio: https://bebroken.podbean.com/Therapy & Theology: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/therapy-and-theology/id1641587501Books:The Betrayal Bind: https://michellemays.com/books/the-betrayal-bind/Good Boundaries & Goodbyes: https://www.p31bookstore.com/products/good-boundaries-and-goodbyesSeeing Beautiful Again: https://lysaterkeurst.com/category/seeing-beautiful-again/The "Am I Not Enough?" Question (24:29)Will It Always Be This Way? (30:16)Learning to Trust Again (34:39)
Enjoy this introduction of The Betrayal, Recovery, Transformation Podcast hosted by Jenn Howie and Kris Rocha. Full episodes will drop in August 2023. We're so glad you're here and we look forward to walking this journey together. You are not alone.