Podcast appearances and mentions of Dan Koch

This week my friend Ulrick Dam returns to the podcast for a follow up conversation about his book, "Building the Basileia: Moving the Church into the 22nd Century". We take a deep dive into back half of his book looking to apply Open and Relational Theology to the cultivation of community. I always have a great time hanging out with Ulrick and this time didn't disappoint. Enjoy! RESOURCES: Building the Basileia: Moving the Church into the 22nd Century (Book) ORT Con 25: Join me June 30 - July 4 for the Open and Relational Theology Conference 2025. Get your tickets HERE. Theology Beer Camp 2025: Come hang out at Theology Beer Camp October 16-18. Get your tickets HERE. *A special thanks to Josh Gilbert, Marty Fredrick, and Dan Koch. Love you guys!

This week RT Mullins returned to the podcast to talk about his latest book, "Eternal in Love: A Little Book About A Big God". In this conversation we discuss various models of God ultimately seeking out a God who is eternal in love. His book and this conversation is a great and in depth introduction into the doctrine of God. Enjoy! RESOURCES: Eternal in Love: A Little Book About A Big God (Book) RTMullins.com ORTCon 25: Join me at ORTCon 25 June 30 - July 4. Get your tickets HERE. Theology Beer Camp 25: Come hang out at Theology Beer Camp October 16-18. Get your tickets HERE. *Special thanks to Josh Gilbert, Marty Fredrick, and Dan Koch. Love you guys!

This week Liz Charlotte Grant joins the podcast for a conversation around her new book "Knock at the Sky: Seeking God In Genesis After Losing Faith in the Bible". We have a fun conversation discussing various ways to read and engage the Bible outside of the confines of inerrancy and infallibility. Enjoy! RESOURCES: Knock at the Sky (Book) LizCharlotte.Com *A special thanks to Josh Gilbert, Marty Fredrick, and Dan Koch. Love you guys

"Spirituality is like nuclear fission—it has the power to illuminate and energize but also to destroy when mishandled." — Dan Koch"Thriving isn't about a perfect life; it's about alignment between our deepest values and our lived reality." — Dan KochOn our path to spiritual health, we need to keep our eyes open to the ways religion and spirituality have been exploited to coerce, control, and create chaos. Focusing on the intersection of religion and psychology, licensed therapist, researcher, and podcaster Dan Koch is creating a public conversation about spiritual harm and abuse, helping victims learn how to deal with spiritual trauma, and offering insight and guidance toward healthy religious and spiritual experiences.From his own personal journey of religious trauma to his extensive research on spiritual abuse, Dan shares insights on how faith communities can both wound and restore. The conversation covers the psychological impact of religious trauma, the complexities of self-diagnosis, and practical strategies for self-knowledge and healing for anyone who has wrestled with faith, struggled with past church experiences, or have lost their religion.In this conversation with Dan Koch, we discuss:The psychological study of spiritual abuse and harm, including conceptual definitions and the many factors that come along with them.The symptoms and most recognizable patterns that point to spiritual abuseThe impact of abuse and trauma on psychological and spiritual healthHow to reappraise and challenge harmful core beliefsAnd how to find healing, joy, and transcendence as we deal with past trauma.Spirituality: Pro-Social Benefits, with a Shadow Side of Harm, Exploitation, and ViolenceThrough With & For, as well as the broader work of The Thrive Center, we regularly explore the expansive benefits and positives that emerge from our inherent spirituality as human beings, and how that relates to our individual and collective thriving.Religion and spirituality can be an immense force for good, offering countless pro-social benefits to the world, helping us our innate spiritual capacities is an essential factor in what it means to thrive.But we have to acknowledge the harm and vice and corruption—the violence— that has been perpetrated through religious and spiritual contexts. Spiritual abuse is a serious matter and there's no way we can cultivate a full understanding or integrated experience of healthy spirituality without coming to terms with its prevalence and effects.Dan Koch's attention to spiritual harm and abuse is about clearing the way toward a healthier spirituality grounded in care and healing. By exposing and exploring past traumas in the context of heathy and respectful relationships, we can grow into a more joyful faith and transcendent spiritual life.About Dan KochDan Koch is a licensed therapist supporting patients working through the trauma of spiritual abuse; and his work and insight in this domain emerges from his empirical research. He's also host of the You Have Permission podcast. With a background in philosophy and theology, he explores questions of faith, doubt, and spiritual well-being. His research focuses on the psychological effects of religious trauma and how individuals can heal from spiritual abuse.Find more of his work at dankochwords.com.You can find his podcast, You Have Permission wherever you listen to podcasts and find exclusive episodes at patreon.com/dankoch.Helpful Links and ResourcesDan Koch's WebsiteJoin Dan Koch's PatreonYou Have Permission PodcastDan Koch's Research on Spiritual AbuseThe Spiritual Harm and Abuse Scale Clinical ScreenerDevelopment of the Spiritual Harm and Abuse Scale (Article, May 2022)Quotable"I would just distinguish between self-knowledge and self-diagnosis—one leads to growth, the other can lead to unnecessary fear.""Avoidance is both a symptom of trauma and a cause of it—it keeps the rest of the symptoms around.""Spirituality is like nuclear fission—it has the power to illuminate and energize but also to destroy when mishandled.""You can't worship a villain—when spiritual abuse distorts your image of God, it becomes almost impossible to stay in faith.""Thriving isn't about a perfect life; it's about alignment between our deepest values and our lived reality."Show NotesDan Koch on spiritual abuse, religious trauma, and healingHow beliefs about God shape emotional well-beingPractical self-knowledge exercises to promote healingThe impact of fear-based religious teachings on mental healthStrategies for deconstructing harmful religious experiencesUnderstanding Spiritual Abuse and Religious TraumaDefinition and key elements of spiritual abuseDifference between spiritual harm and abuseThe role of power, control, and coercion in religious settingsHow religious trauma manifests in daily lifeConnection between religious trauma and PTSDThe Psychological and Emotional Impact of Religious TraumaThe interplay between faith, fear, and mental healthThe long-term effects of toxic religious teachingsHow avoidance perpetuates trauma symptomsSelf-diagnosis vs. self-awareness in spiritual healingThe importance of challenging harmful core beliefsPractical Strategies for Self-Knowledge and HealingDan Koch's guided self-knowledge exerciseHow breath work can regulate anxiety from spiritual traumaRecognizing and reframing harmful core beliefsThe power of contemplative practices in spiritual healingUsing evidence-based approaches to reconstruct faithHow Churches and Communities Can Foster Spiritual HealthHow leadership can avoid coercive controlCreating spaces for questioning and spiritual growthThe importance of transparency in religious institutionsEncouraging self-agency in spiritual communitiesRedefining authority and spiritual guidance in a healthy wayPam King's Key TakeawaysSpirituality is like nuclear fission: its incredible power can be harnessed for abundant good that is essential to thriving, but when it is exploited or used irresponsibly, the fallout is catastrophic for human well-being.Thriving is an integrative process that can be better understood and better lived when we draw from psychological, philosophical, and theological sources.Sometimes our core beliefs are the source of spiritual harm and trauma, and these can be reframed, reappraised, and challenged—aligning us with self-respect, truth, and love. About the Thrive CenterLearn more at thethrivecenter.org.Follow us on Instagram @thrivecenterFollow us on X @thrivecenterFollow us on LinkedIn @thethrivecenter About Dr. Pam KingDr. Pam King is Executive Director the Thrive Center and is Peter L. Benson Professor of Applied Developmental Science at Fuller School of Psychology & Marriage and Family Therapy. Follow her @drpamking. About With & ForHost: Pam KingSenior Director and Producer: Jill WestbrookOperations Manager: Lauren KimSocial Media Graphic Designer: Wren JuergensenConsulting Producer: Evan RosaSpecial thanks to the team at Fuller Studio and the Fuller School of Psychology & Marriage and Family Therapy.

Welcome to this fun filled interview with ALLISON COSSITT, Recorded just before release of her first show ever produced - PARTIAL VEIL - Links below! We chat many things setup and sort, and how she went about developing and producing her brilliant audio story from start to pre-release. This is one of two eps - next one coming in a few week's time yayer.I am ELATED to welcome 2 new Patreon supporters - SALLY SWIFT and KARI SUTCLIFFE - HERYUGE and hearty thanks  to you and alllll of my amazing supporters who have helped fuel QUIRKY works over the years. I am right now concocting an original poem for KARI as a tier reward and hope you enjoy the current, past and future eps! Just a reminder that often - as in this week's case, the Patreon version of indie af is the full interview, and what is released here is a director's cut, so, you want more Allison? OF COURSE YOU DO! Become a Patreon today for as little as $2 a month…. Fun. Times. This week's trailer is for ADWIT podcast, which I host with LINDSAY-HARRIS-FRIELD (Tha legend) we are releasing our first eo of SEASON THREE NEXT WEEK - Follow and binge all season one and two here! Thank youpThe Discoverability section of today's show is will the wonderful DAN KOCH and his SUPERB show METROPOLIS. Please do hunt and binge it now as it continues release through the spring of this 2025.LINKS..HERE!WEBSITE:  luxradium.orgTRAILER: https://www.buzzsprout.com/2397806/episodes/15626700-metropolis-the-audio-drama-trailer.mp3SOCIALS:* INSTAGRAM:* TUMBLR:* FB: * TIKTOK: * TWITTER:* BLUESKY:Soooo NO EXCUSES not to find it!!If you want to appear on a future discoverability session, ping quirkyvoices@gmail.com and reserve a slot as I will start to record S4 of INDIE AF in the summer. Hope you have been finding it useful to find other shows! I would LOVE you to review INDIE AF on your pod catcher of choice as shortly I would love to share some of folk's thoughts on the show and Why it is useful!I hope you'll agree that ALLISON is INSPIRATIONAL, IMENSELY TALENTED and we both hope you enjoy her show, PARTIAL VEIL - SEASON ONE!HAPPY CREATING ALL ANDENJOY!Sarah

This week I had the joy of being in conversation with Dr. Catherine Keller to discuss her latest book, "No Matter What: Crisis and the Spirit of Planetary Possibility". Hope is not simple optimism, but a participation in the Spirit of Possibility. Dr. Keller and I discuss what it means to cultivate hope during the time of crisis we find ourselves in. We engage eco-theology, feminism, process theology, and radical theology. This is a deep and profound conversation calling us to both be deeply realistic in our assessments of the world and defiantly hopeful... no matter what! Enjoy. RESOURCES: No Matter What: Crisis and the Spirit of Planetary Possibility (Book) On the Mystery: Discerning Divinity in Process (Book) The Face of the Deep: A Theology of Becoming (Book) *A special thanks to Josh Gilbert, Marty Fredrick, and Dan Koch. Love you guys

This week I was joined by Dr. Lina Langby to discuss her dissertation, "God and the World: Pragmatic and Epistemic Arguments For Panentheistic and Pantheistic Conceptions of the God-World Relationship". Langby takes us on a journey searching for a God worthy of worship assessing the impacts of Classical Theism, Panentheism, and Pantheism on gender equality, environmental concerns, science, and the problem of evil. Enjoy! RESOURCES: God and the World (Dissertation) *A special thanks to Josh Gilbert, Marty Fredrick, and Dan Koch. Love you guys

In this short Wellness in Minutes episode, discover how cacao can elevate your morning routine and naturally boost energy and focus. Dan Koch shares the powerful benefits of cacao, explaining how its unique compounds support mental clarity, reduce anxiety, and enhance overall well-being. Learn simple ways to incorporate this ancient superfood into your daily rituals for sustained energy without the crash. In this episode, you'll discover: ✔️ How cacao can be a natural alternative to coffee for energy and focus. ✔️The key compounds in cacao that support brain function and reduce anxiety. ✔️ Simple ways to incorporate cacao into your morning routine for long-lasting benefits.

This week I was joined by Jeremy Hunt for a fun conversation around his lates book, "From Chaos to Ambiguity: A Theology of Noise Rock". It is not often that I get to nerd out about my love for music and my love for theology in the same conversation! We take a deep dive into the history of Punk to No Wave to Noise Rock. We discuss the power of music and sound and Jeremy weaves in a deep theology of presence and creativity. Radical Theology & Process Theology also find their way into the conversation as always... Enjoy! RESOURCES: From Chaos to Ambiguity: A Theology of Noise Rock (Book) QOHELETH (Band Camp) *A special thanks to Josh Gilbert, Marty Fredrick, and Dan Koch. Love you guys

This week I was joined by Gastroenterologist and Theologian Dr. John F. Pohl for a deep exploration of the intersection of Science, Medicine, and Theology. We talked about his recent book, "A Theology of the Microbiome: An Intersection of Divinity and the Microbial Life Within Us". In this conversation Dr. Pohl gives us a rundown of the microbial life that lives inside of us. The microbiome is then explored from the perspective of Process-Relational perspective. Enjoy! RESOURCES: A Theology of the Microbiome (Book) Open and Relational Theology Conference: Get Your Tickets Here! Theology Beer Camp 2025 *A special thanks to Josh Gilbert, Marty Fredrick, and Dan Koch. Love you guys

This week I was joined by my friends Nicky Pizaña and Dr. Adam Clark for a challenging but important conversation. In 1973 Dr. William R. Jones published a book titled, "Is God A White Racist: A Preamble to Black Theology". In this book, Jones concluded that if the God of classical theism is true, then God is indeed a White Racist. Is the claim that God is the liberator of the oppressed empirically verifiable? Jones concludes that it is not... and if God is all powerful, then why is there so much oppression? I think Open & Relational Theology could offer a different perspective that takes Jones argument seriously, but could ultimately could allow us to say, "No! God is not a White Racist". Often times however, Black Theology and Liberation Theology have been hesitant to engage with the Open and Relational or Process Relational tradition. In this conversation Nicky and Adam engage with Jone's strong claims and challenge me on the adequacy of my Process-Relational approach. Enjoy! RESOURCES: Is God A White Racist: A Preamble to Black Theology (Book) Making a Way Out of No Way (Book) THEOLOGY BEER CAMP 2025: Early Bird tickets are on sale now! Snag your tickets HERE. *A special thanks to Josh Gilbert, Marty Fredrick, and Dan Koch. Love you guys

This week Rabbi Shai Held joins the podcast to discuss his latest book "Judaism is About Love: Recovering the Heart of Jewish Life". It goes without saying that there are A LOT of misconceptions about Judaism within the Christian tradition. To say it even more bluntly, there are a lot of Anti-Semitic and Anti-Jewish teachings and doctrines plaguing the Christian tradition today. In this conversation Rabbi Held explores how love isn't just a sentiment but a theological and ethical imperative deeply rooted in the Jewish tradition. We discuss the radical nature of love in the Hebrew Bible and address many of the misconceptions and false teaching about the Jewish tradition. This is a thought provoking conversation that only just scrapped the surface of Rabbi Held's book. Enjoy the conversation and snag a copy of his book! RESOURCES: Judaism is About Love: Recovering the Heart of Jewish Life (Book) The Hadar Institute Join the Patreon *A special thanks to Josh Gilbert, Marty Fredrick, and Dan Koch. Love you guys

This week I was joined by Peter Rollins to play another round of 20ish Q's. We cover A LOT of ground in this fan-favorite episode format... The Death of God, Pyro Theology, Psycho Analysis, Radical Theology, Religionless Religion, Politics, Leprechauns, and more! Enjoy. RESOURCES: PeterRollins.Com Join the Patreon. *A special thanks to Josh Gilbert, Marty Fredrick, and Dan Koch. Love you guys

This week I had the privilege of sitting down with Philosopher Dr. Philip Goff to discuss his most recent book, "Why?: The Purpose of the Universe". We took a deep dive into his work asking questions like, "Does science point towards purpose?", "Does consciousness point toward purpose?", and "Can there be inherent purpose without a God concept?". This was a great conversation that I am very excited to share. Enjoy! RESOURCES: Why? The Purpose of the Universe (Book) Support my work and Join the Patreon for $5 /month. *A special thanks to Josh Gilbert, Marty Fredrick, and Dan Koch. Love you guys

This week I had the privilege of being joined by Khristi Adams to talk about her new book "Womanish Theology: Discovering God Through the Lens of Black Girlhood". Khristi reflects on her experiences growing up as a black girl and invites us into the experience of black girls to learn from a their perspective. We take a deep dive into Khristi's book, her experience, and the experience of the young black girls that she interviewed for the book. We talk about our relationship to prayer, scripture, the problem of evil, and a variety of other important theological topics. The Womanist tradition is deep, rich and expansive... but what does the Womanish tradition have to offer us a new? Enjoy! RESOURCES: KhristiLaurenAdams.Com Womanish Theology (Book) *A special thanks to Josh Gilbert, Marty Fredrick, and Dan Koch. Love you guys

This week on the podcast I am joined by my friend Ryan Canty to talk about his new book, "Deweaponize: Re-examining how we read the Bible in pursuit of a more Christlike interpretation". We take a deep dive into this wonderfully accessible book that covers a wide range of important topics. What does it look like to allow Jesus to inform how we think about things like Inspiration, Creation, Gender Hierarchy, Violence, Hell, and the Afterlife? This was a fun conversation that provides both clarity and depth to some of our biggest questions. Enjoy! RESOURCES: Deweaponize: Re-examining how we read the Bible in pursuit of a more Christlike interpretation (Book) Get your tickets to ORTCON25 here! *A special thanks to Josh Gilbert, Marty Fredrick, and Dan Koch. Love you guys

The guys are back with the first episode of 2025 discussing snow days as adults, as well as the impact Sports has on the sports fan--based on an article by Dan Koch. Click here to leave a voicemail. "In Defense of Sports" By Dan Koch

This week, I was joined by Dr. Anthony Pinn to discuss his latest book, "The Black Practice of Disbelief: An Introduction to the Principles, History, and Communities of Black Nonbelievers". Dr. Pinn is a former Baptist Minister who no longer identifies as a Christian or believer. Now, Pinn identifies as a Black Humanist and argues that Black Humanism is inherently Religious. We discuss the reason for his shift and some pretty sharp critiques that he has off the Church. Dr. Pinn walks me through his 6 pirnciples of Black Humanism then connects them to our everyday lives and the constant struggle for justice and human flouring. This was a deeply informative and moving conversation that has a lot to offer regardless of your religious identification or lack there of. Enjoy! RESOURCES: The Black Practice of Disbelief: An Introduction to the Principles, History, and Communities of Black Nonbelievers (Book) Dr. Anthony B. Pinn *A special thanks to Josh Gilbert, Marty Fredrick, and Dan Koch. Love you guys

What better way to kick off the new year than with Rabbi Bradley Artson! This week I had a wonderful conversation with Rabbi Artson to discuss both his Jewish heritage and his love for Process Philosophy and Theology. Rabbi Artson walks me through how Process thought has informed his Jewish theology, ethics, and spirituality, offering a zesty perspective on tradition and the Divine. This episode also serves as a constructive example of a Deep Religious Pluralism. Whether you are familiar with Process Theology and Judaism, or you are new to both, this conversation is sure to inspire curiosity and deep reflection. Enjoy! RESOURCES: God of Becoming and Relationship: The Dynamic Nature of Process Theology (Book) Renewing the Process of Creation: A Jewish Integration of Science and Spirit (Book) *A special thanks to Josh Gilbert, Marty Fredrick, and Dan Koch for their love and support. Love you guys!* Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week I was joined by my good friend Nick Polk to talk all things Tolkien & Pop Culture. To be blunt... Nick is a Tolkien nerd! His new book "Tolkien & Pop Culture" just came out and it's wonderful. This inaugural volume collects essays that were once only available online that explores the intersection of Tolkien and aspects of pop culture. We talk about a few of his favorite essays from the new book and I get educated on all things Tolkien. If you aren't a Tolkien fan yet, you will be at the end of this conversation. Enjoy! RESOURCES: Tolkien & Pop Culture (Book) Join the Patreon *A special thanks to Josh Gilbert, Marty Fredrick, and Dan Koch. Love you guys

This week, Dr. Sheri Kling joined me to discuss her Process Spirituality and an upcoming online conference called "Renewing Faith". Kling has done a lot of work integrating the work of Alfred North Whitehead and Carl Jung. How does Process Theology/Philosophy speak to, challenge, and make better Jungian Psychology? How does Jungian Psychology speak to, challenge, and make better Process Theology/Philosophy? We also discuss the ongoing process of renewing our faith and discuss some of the themes of the Renewing Faith online conference. Snag your ticket today and we will see you there. Enjoy! Renewing Faith Online Conference, January 23-25, 2025 Are you feeling burnt out and disconnected from your ministry or spiritual life? The Renewing Faith Conference is designed specifically for forward-looking Christian pastors, staff members, lay leaders, spiritual directors, chaplains, and those outside traditional church settings - whether you consider yourself a progressive mainliner, a quiet contemplative, a spiritual seeker, or a “deconstructing” post-evangelical - who are seeking to reignite their passion and find life-giving purpose in their faith journeys. At the Renewing Faith Conference, you will: Grow and Deepen Your Theological Roots: Participate in thought-provoking discussions led by renowned theologians and ministry leaders. Gain Fresh Perspectives on Ministry: Hear and discuss ways to incorporate process and open-relational theology and practice into your preaching, ministry, community, and personal faith journey.  Build Lasting Connections: Network with like-minded Christians who share your commitment to fresh expressions of Christianity, forming lasting relationships and networks of support. Embody Your Faith: Experience worship and practices that connect mind, body, and spirit through the arts and movement, fostering a holistic approach to ministry and well-being. Imagine leaving the conference with a renewed sense of purpose, a refreshed spirit, and practical tools to sustain your faith and your ministry for years to come. This isn't just another conference; it's a life-changing experience designed to help you thrive in your calling and spirituality. Early bird pricing for regular registration will only be available until Dec. 31, and there's even a special discount for students. Don't let burnout or boredom define your ministry or faith life. Take the first step towards renewal and transformation. Learn more at this link: Renewing Faith/(Re)Thinking *A special thanks to Josh Gilbert, Marty Fredrick, and Dan Koch. Love you guys

This week, Michael Anthony Abril joined me to explore the field of Evolutionary Theology, which seeks to harmonize the science of evolution with theological concepts of God, humanity, suffering, and the natural world. We take a deep dive into how evolutionary thinking has shaped theological discussions over the last century and continue to influence contemporary views on faith and religion. This episode provides an accessible introduction to evolutionary theology, examining the intersection of scientific, philosophical, and theological perspectives. Whether you're a student, scholar, or simply curious, this conversation offers fresh insights into the important and ongoing dialogue between science and faith. Enjoy! RESOURCES: Evolutionary Theology: A Critical Introduction (Book) Join the Patreon *A special thanks to Josh Gilbert, Marty Fredrick, and Dan Koch! Love you guys

This week I had the honor and privilege of sitting down with Dr. John Caputo. The Advent season is here and what better way to celebrate then with some Radical Theology? In this conversation we take a deep dive into Radical Theology and see what it has to teach us about this season of waiting known as Advent. If you have never encountered Radical Theology before, consider this a gift from me to you... If Radical Theology is already your jam, so to is this a gift. (I mean its John Caputo!!!) Enjoy! RESOURCES: John Caputo Author Page Join the Patreon! *A special thanks to Marty Fredrick, Josh Gilbert, and Dan Koch! Love you guys

When you think of cacao, your mind probably goes straight to chocolate—but what if this rich superfood could also offer deep healing and transform your daily rituals? From boosting your health to serving as a nutrient-packed alternative to coffee, alcohol, and other stimulants, cacao holds surprising benefits beyond its sweet reputation.   Dan Koch is the founder of Sacred Taste Cacao, a company committed to bringing the healing and spiritual benefits of cacao to a global community. During his sound healing ceremonies worldwide, Dan merges music and cacao and discovers that this heart-opening medicine is exactly what people crave.    Episode resources:  Learn more about Sacred Taste Cacao and shop their products here. Use the code FOODMATTERS for 10% off: https://sacredtaste.com/?ref=vsioslmm Sign up for the Food Matters Podcast Newsletter here: https://bit.ly/3oiJJbs  Read the full show notes here: https://www.foodmatters.com/podcast/episode-109   Learn About the Food Matters Nutrition Certification Program here: http://www.foodmatters.com/study Follow us on Instagram: @foodmatters

This week I was joined by my good friend Gabriel Gordon to discuss his new book, "The Fundamentals of a Recovering Fundamentalist". Gabe tells us his story of deconstructing his Evangelical upbringing, embracing his Jewishness, and discovering the depths of the Christian Tradition. Enjoy! RESOURCES: The Fundamentals of a Recovering Fundamentalist (Book) *A special thanks to Josh Gilbert, Marty Fredrick, and Dan Koch. Love you guys

This week my friend Dr. Taylor Thomas joins me to discuss your new favorite theologian... Paul Tillich. This episode is a crash course in all things Tillich! Whether you are a Tillich expert or have no idea who the hell Paul Tillich is, this episode is for you. Dr. Thomas takes us through the life and theology of Tillich in a way that is fun and accessible... she also throws some of her own hot takes in there so Tillich nerds look out! We discuss Tillich's notion of faith as ultimate concern, the role of doubt in faith, existentialism, God as the ground of being, the importance of symbol, a theology of culture, and so much more. This was such a fun conversation to have with Dr. Thomas. I hope you find it as helpful as I did! RESOURCES: TaylorThomas.Com Tillich Today Podcast *A special thanks to Josh Gilbert, Marty Fredrick, and Dan Koch for your continue support of the podcast. Love you guys

This week I am joined by Aizaiah Yong to discuss his fantastic book, 'Multiracial Cosmotheandrism: A Practical Theology of Multiracial Experiences'. Aizaiah critically considers how his expereince as a multi-racial person and the lives and spiritual experiences of mixed-race people can transform efforts for racial justice across the planet. Yong is inspired by the life and philosophy of Raimon Panikkar, an interreligious spiritual leader whose own experiences of the world were shaped by his life as a mixed-race person. In our conversation, Aizaiah focuses on the experiences of mixed-race people and challenges practical theology to broaden its own attention to practices of spirituality beyond mono-racial paradigms. Mixed-race people have profound resources for confronting and healing from racism and racial oppression within their lives and their stories, and Aizaiah calls for strengthened collective efforts to tend to the beautiful depths of spiritual formation for mixed-race people. Enjoy! RESOURCES: Multiracial Cosmotheandrism: A Practical Theology of Multiracial Experiences (Book) *A special thanks to Josh Gilbert, Marty Fredrick, and Dan Koch for their support of the podcast. Love you guys

This week I am joined by Dr. Kutter Callaway for a special spooky edition of the podcast. Kutter recently released a high-quality podcast called "Be Afraid". His podcast takes you on a journey into the heart of one of the most popular genres of contemporary film and television: horror. Each episode discusses the nature of our fears and why we just can't seem to look away from the things that terrify us. The show features interviews with major Hollywood filmmakers, well-known film critics, leading psychologists, and even a few exorcists. This podcast isn't about how to avoid fear, how to leverage it, or even whether it's okay to be afraid. Instead, it's an exercise in learning how to fear rightly.  Kutter and I take a deep dive into the show, discuss our own fears, wrestle with our own demons, and attempt to learn how to fear well. Enjoy! RESOURCES: KutterCallaway.Com Be Afraid Podcast *A special thanks to Josh Gilbert, Marty Fredrick, and Dan Koch for their continued support of the pod.

This week Keegan Osinski joins me to discuss Queer Theory, Theology, and the Church. Keegan wrote an amazing book called "Queering Wesley, Queering the Church" that we used as the foundation of our conversation. What exactly is Queer Theory? What does it mean to Queer our theology? Is Queer theology only good news for Queer folks? What lessons does the Church need to learn from the Queer community? We talk about all of these questions and many more in this conversation. I really had a great time talking with Keegan and learned a lot from our time together. Not only did she bring the theological goods, but she also brought tons of laughter and joy as well. Enjoy! RESOURCES: Queering Wesley, Queering the Church (Book) KeeganOsinski.Com *A special thanks to Josh Gilbert, Marty Fredrick, and Dan Koch for their behind the scenes work and support of the show. Love you guys

This week we are back with another edition of 20ish Q's. Last time Jennifer Garcia Bashaw nominated Aaron Higashi and he agreed to play my silly game. I continue to enjoy recording this fun episode format and Aaron continued the tradition well. We cover a lot of your favorite questions from past editions, and we cover some new ground as well! What role does philosophy play in Biblical Scholarship? Can Philosophical Deconstruction make us better readers of the Bible? Is there a hermenuetical crisis in religion today? What would Aaron do if Ken Ham invited him to dinner? We discuss all of this and more in our 10th edition of 20ish Q's. Give it a listen and find out who Aaron nominated to go next... Enjoy! RESOURCES: Aaron's Instagram 1 & 2 Samuel for Normal People Womanist Midrash *A special thanks to Josh Gilbert, Marty Fredrick, and Dan Koch for their continued support of the podcast. Love you guys

This week my friend Jory Pryor joins me to discuss his new book "Becoming All Light: the Non-Dual Heart of Christianity". After deconstruction, or the demythologizing of the Christian story, many spirituality minded people find themselves alienated, not just from other traditions, but from their own. In his book and in this conversation, Jory invites us to realize that we are not just observers of a divine spectacle, but rather active participants in a cosmic dance. In this cosmic dance, every moment provides the opportunity for awakening to our true luminous and divine nature. Jory contends that this realization is not an endpoint but a beginning, marking our entry into a life of boundless freedom, creativity, and compassion, embodying the light of awareness that illuminates all. Enjoy! RESOURCES: Becoming All Light: the Non-Dual Heart of Christianity (Book) Methods of Contemplation (Instagram) THEOLOGY BEER CAMP 2024: Get your tickets to Theology Beer Camp HERE. Use code RETHINKINGBAGGINS for $50 off. *Special thanks to Josh Gilbert, Marty Fredrick, and Dan Koch for their support of (Re)thinking Faith. Love you guys!* Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Pam King joins licensed therapist Dan Koch on his podcast, You Have Permission, for a discussion of the six facets of spiritual health.Announcement! With & For Season 2 is dropping on January 5, 2025! And until then, every Monday from September to December, we're sharing some shorter clips, practical features, and other talks or interviews featuring Dr. Pam King, to offer insight into what it means to thrive and pursue spiritual health.Show NotesWith & For Season 2 is dropping on January 5, 2024!Subscribe to Dan Koch's podcast, You Have Permission and his Patreon at patreon.com/dankochPam's research interests: positive developmental psychology and theologyHow do psychologists perceive religion, spirituality, and theology?How does spirituality and religion factor in human development?William Damon (Stanford University) on moral development in the wake of the Columbine shooting“My work has really focused on how do we offer people insight into the psychological benefits available in spirituality and religion at their best.”Youth group“What's the question I could ask that would get her thinking about the potentially harmful theology?”Purity culture at youth groupThe Thrive Center's rubric of Six Facets of Spiritual HealthWhat are the six facets of spiritual health?Transcendence and spirituality. Habits and rhythms. Relationships and community. Identity and narrative. Vocation and purpose. Ethics and virtues.“This model comes from is comes from existing research that highlights potential resources available through religious participation or being a spiritual person that can promote our well being.”How religion and spirituality buffer against mental illnessPsychological benefits of spirituality“Mechanisms of change”Benefits mediated through relationships with other people“Young people need relationships.”What is the nature of healthy spiritual community?“But increasingly, with the fragmentation of our society and our very transient and digital affiliations, we don't have the richness and the thick connections that we once did.”Polarization and culture wars and Robert Putnam's “Bowling Alone”Transcendence: ”something beyond the self”Spirituality: “experiencing and responding to transcendence”Habits and rhythms.Creativity and music“The reality is, as humans, we often find freedom with some structure.”Atomic HabitsContemplative neuroscienceFight, flight, freezeBuilt in rhythms of work and restSabbathAncient rhythms and practical wisdom that give us permission to restListen to Pam and Dan discuss facets of “Relationships and community” and “Identity and narrative” in the Patron-only second half of the conversation, available via patreon.com/dankochVocation and purpose.Teleology and Telos (end, goal, purpose)Reciprocating relationshipsPursuing purpose as an “enduring goal that is actionable”Mary Helen Immordino Yang (USC) and the default networkMeaning making“The moment that I was able to admit that I was a theological liberal was when I felt through contemplative practice directly accepted by God.”“If God exists, then I'm God's kid.”“And if there is God, and if these spiritual experiences actually correlate to something, then the clearest thing I know is I'm good. I'm loved. I'm accepted.”Ultimate transcendence and connection to divine love“Ultimately spiritual health involves an identity in which we are the beloved.”Contemplative practicesHow to make changing diapers a spiritual practice: “Oh, we got a pooper!”Directionality to narrativeEthics and virtues.Ethics as “real-world application to moral thinking.”Virtues as “building up certain regular capacities in ourselves such that we will naturally make good ethical choices.”Intercessory prayer and loving-kindness meditationHow youth approach morality in the context of community and family About the Thrive CenterLearn more at thethrivecenter.org.Follow us on Instagram @thrivecenterFollow us on X @thrivecenterFollow us on LinkedIn @thethrivecenter About Dr. Pam KingDr. Pam King is Executive Director the Thrive Center and is Peter L. Benson Professor of Applied Developmental Science at Fuller School of Psychology & Marriage and Family Therapy. Follow her @drpamking. About With & ForHost: Pam KingSenior Director and Producer: Jill WestbrookOperations Manager: Lauren KimSocial Media Graphic Designer: Wren JuergensenConsulting Producer: Evan RosaSpecial thanks to the team at Fuller Studio and the Fuller School of Psychology & Marriage and Family Therapy.

This week I had the privilege of hanging out with Jordan Morris to discuss his new Graphic Novel "Youth Group". I stumbled upon Jordan's book by accident and I LOVED it. Jordan is a great writer and the artwork in the book is simply stunning. We had a great conversation about some of the themes of the book, the creative process, Jordan's own youth group experience, and more. This was a fun conversation, with a super fun and creative person. Enjoy! RESOURCES: Youth Group (Book) JordanMorris.net Bowen's IG page THEOLOGY BEER CAMP 2024: Get your ticket HERE. Use code RETHINKINGBAGGINS for $50 off. *A special thanks to Josh Gilbert for managing the podcast, Marty Fredrick for producing the podcast, and Dan Koch for providing music for the podcast. Love you guys

This week I got to hang out with my friend Annie DeRolf for a really fun conversation. Annie introduced me to the concept of anti-theodicy and I just had to have her on to talk about it. Theodicy for me has been a HUGE part of my theological development and one of the main reasons I have come to embrace Process-Relational thinking. The conversation we had pokes holes in my beloved philosophical / theological positions in all the right ways. Even though this is a darker topic, we share a lot of laughter and have an honest conversation wrestling through the problems of evil and suffering. Enjoy! THEOLOGY BEER CAMP 2024: Get your tickets for Theology Beer Camp HERE. Use code RETHINKINGBAGGINS for $50 off! *A special thanks to Josh Gilbert for managing the pod, Marty Fredrick for producing the pod, and Dan Koch for providing the music for the pod. Love you guys!

This week Jonny Morrison joins the podcast to talk about his new book "Prodigal Gospel: Getting Lost and Found Again in the Good News". Too often the Gospel is presented in ways that doesn't really sound like good news... Our gospel has become too small, looks nothing like Jesus, and for good reasons people are leaving the so called good news behind. Is there a better way to talk about the Gospel that passes the vibe check of love? How do we recover the Gospel so it rings true and good today? Johnny turns to the story of the Prodigal Son, but not in ways you might think, to address this issue at hand. Not going to lie, I was nervous for this one but I had a lot of fun with Jonny. Enjoy. Resources: Prodigal Gospel: Getting Lost and Found Again in the Good News (Book) Bonhoeffer's Black Jesus (Book) The Fundamentals of a Recovering Fundamentalist (Book) THEOLOGY BEER CAMP 2024: Ticket prices will be increasing soon! Grab your tickets HERE and use code RETHINKINGBAGGINS for $50 off. *As always thanks to Josh Gilbert, Marty Fredrick, and Dan Koch. Love you guys

This week we are back at it again with another rendition of 20ish Q's. This time I was excited to have Jennifer Garcia Bashaw return to the podcast to play my silly game. We had a BLAST and Jennifer brought the fire. I wonder who she nominated to go next? Give it a listen and find out. Enjoy! RESOURCES: John for Normal People (Book) Scapegoats: The Gospel through the Eyes of Victims (Book) THEOLOGY BEER CAMP 2024: Snag your tickets for Theology Beer Camp HERE. Use code RETHINKINGBAGGINS for $50 off. *A special thanks to Josh Gilbert for managing the show, Marty Fredrick for producing the show, & Dan Koch for providing music. Love you guys!

This week Dr. James F. McGrath returns to the podcast to discuss his latest book, "Christmaker: A Life of John the Baptist". Typically John the Baptist is treated as a mere footnote in the gospels... but what would happen if we took a closer look? James did just that, reconstructed the life of the Historical John the Baptist and it turns out he was a fascinating and influential religious leader in his own right. We take a deep dive into the life of John the Baptist, learn about his massive influence on Jesus, discover a religious group that still follows John today, and more. Enjoy! RESOURCES: Christmaker: A Life of John the Baptist John of History, Baptist of Faith Dr. James McGrath THEOLOGY BEER CAMP 2024: Get your tickets HERE and use code RETHINKINGBAGGINS for $50 off! *A special thanks to Josh Gilbert, Marty Fredrick, and Dan Koch. Love you guys

This week I was joined by not one, not two, but three guests to discuss their edited volume "Preaching the Uncontrolling Love of God". Nichole Torbitzky, Vikki Randall, & Jeff Wells join the show to get pragmatic and put Open & Relational Theology to work. What would it look like to apply Open & Relational thought to our Leadership, Preaching, and Pastoral care? Is it possible to find a church that is Open and Relational? This was a fun conversation getting three different perspectives on these kinds of questions. The volume they edited together, along with Thomas Jay Oord, has over 75 essays including sermons and worship elements from within an Open and Relational framework. It is a great resources for clergy and lay members alike. Enjoy! RESOSURCES: Preaching the Uncontrolling Love of God: Sermons, Essays, and Worship Elements from the Perspective of Open, Relational, and Process Theology (Book) THEOLOGY BEER CAMP: Get your tickets from Theology Beer Camp 2024 HERE. Use code RETHINKINGBAGGINS for $50 off your cost of admission. *A special thanks to Josh Gilbert for managing the podcast, Marty Fredrick for producing the podcast, and Dan Koch for providing the music for the podcast. Love you guys

In today's episode, Rob and Vinnie are joined by DT's Danny Hall and licensed trauma expert Dan Koch to discuss spiritual abuse in the church. In particular, the conversation centers on how End Times theology has contributed to trauma among some Christians.    To learn more about Dan and his work you can follow his podcast "You Have Permission" on Itunes, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts.  Please "follow" this podcast and give a review on iTunes, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. Your review will go a long way toward helping others find this podcast. Then share it with others so that we can get the word of the Gospel of the Kingdom to more people!   Also, our goal is to keep these episodes free of charge. I do not intend to ever hide them behind a paywall. I can only do this if those of you who have been blessed by them and can afford to give ($5, $10, $25, or more/month) do so. You can give a tax-deductible contribution by following this link.    

This week I had the privilege of being joined by Diarmuid O'Murchu to discuss his newest book, "Ecological Spirituality". The changes that we must make to address the complex ecological crises today are unlikely to happen if we do not experience a spiritual revolution. In our conversation Diarmuid invites us to the revolutionary work of a life-promoting spirituality for our modern day. We discuss moving beyond understandings of holiness that emphasize detachment from our world in favor of something beyond. O'Murchu reintroduces us to the long history of humanity's relationship with the creative Spirit of God, including and transcending religious traditions in a growing horizon of faith. As we rediscover the sacred here on Earth, we are called to connect spirit with Spirit, discerning and living an ecologically-focused spirituality for the well-being of creatures and ecosystems around the planet. Enjoy! RESOURCES: Ecological Spiritually (Book) DiarmuidOmurchu.com Join the Patreon Community for bonus episodes and an add-free listening experience! THEOLOGY BEER CAMP: Get your tickets HERE and use code RETHINKINGBAGGINS for $50 off! *A special thanks to Josh Giblert, Marty Fredrick, and Dan Koch for their work behind the scenes. Love you guys

This week my friend, mentor, and overall awesome human being Dr. Thomas Jay Oord is back on the podcast. Tom has been handed charges by his denomination and faces trial for being fully LGBTQ+ affirming. We break down what the trial is, how its going to work, Tom's overall goals for the trial, and Tom's defense of the LGBTQ+ community. Enjoy! RESOURCES: My Defense: Responding to Charges that I Fully Affirm LGBTQ+ People (Book) Join the Patreon! THEOLOGY BEER CAMP: Get your tickets HERE! Use code RETHINKINGBAGGINS for $50 off! *Special thanks to Josh Gilbert for managing the show, Marty Fredrick for producing the show, and Dan Koch for providing music for the show. Love you guys

This week I was joined by my new friend Liz Cooledge Jenkins to discuss her new book "Nice Churchy Patriarchy: Reclaiming Women's Humanity from Evangelicalism". Even in the warmest and most welcoming evangelical churches, patriarchy looms as an ever-present force... Patriarchy isn't always in your face and Liz helps us take an unflinching look at the ways misogyny's subtler forms impact every aspect of women's experience in church. Liz shares lots of stories from her own church experiences where Patriarchy reared its ugly head and put Liz in some less than stellar situations. I really enjoyed this conversation with Liz and I enjoyed reading her book overall. Enjoy! RESOURCES: Nice Church Patriarchy: Reclaiming Women's Humanity from Evangelicalism (Book) LizCooledgeJenkins.Com Join the Patreon for 2 monthly bonus episodes and an Add-Free listening experience. THEOLOGY BEER CAMP: Come hang out at Theology Beer Camp October 17-19 in Denver! Use code RETHINKINGBAGGINS for $50 off! *A special thanks to Josh Gilbert for managing the podcast, Marty Fredrick for producing the podcast, and Dan Koch for providing music for the podcast. Love you guys

Joining me for today's fascinating episode is Dan Koch, podcaster and spiritual abuse researcher. Dan has created an incredible tool called the Spiritual Harm & Abuse Scale, and he breaks it down for us as we talk about spiritual abuse and the heavy impact it has on people's lives. Read the show notes and/or ask Natalie a question hereRelated Resources:Check out Dan's Spiritual Harm & Abuse Scale. Also mentioned in today's podcast episode was Dr. Keller's Spiritual Abuse Questionnaire. Connect with Dan on his website as well as Instagram. Listen to Dan's podcast, You Have Permission, and especially Episodes 10 and 123. Grab your copy of one of my favorite books, Faith Beyond Doubt. My newest book, All the Scary Little Gods, is a spiritual memoir about healing from religious trauma and toxic programming. Are you wondering what is happening inside your own painful and confusing marriage? I wrote another book just for you called Is It Me? Making Sense of Your Confusing Marriage: A Christian Woman's Guide to Hidden Emotional and Spiritual Abuse. Flying Free is my online membership program designed for Christian women in emotionally abusive marriages. Whether you want to stay in your marriage or leave, we want to equip and support you through this program.Flying Higher is my online membership program for divorced Christian women. Come rebuild your life after divorce with women just like you. Support the Flying Free podcast AND get in on monthly deep-dive discussions with podcast guests by joining the Flying Free Podcast Club for a $5 monthly donation HERE. (Members of Flying Free and Flying Higher can join these discussions FREE. Just reach out to me, natalie@flyingfreenow.com, and we'll get you set up!) Dan Koch is a licensed therapist in the state of Washington, the host of the You Have Permission Podcast and a spiritual abuse researcher who has developed the Spiritual Harm & Abuse Scale, currently in use by religious trauma clinicians around the world.

This week I was joined by my new friend Kate Common to discuss her new book "Undoing Conquest: Ancient Israel, the Bible and the Future of Christianity". We had a great conversation discussing a new understanding of the origins of the Hebrew people and how that can help churches recognize and take responsibility for a history of violence and conquest, make reparations, and seek reconciliation. Enjoy! RESOURCES: Undoing Conquest: Ancient Israel, the Bible, and the Future of Christianity (Book) Join the Patreon for 2 monthly bonus episodes and an Add-Free listening experience. THEOLOGY BEER CAMP: Get your tickets HERE and used code RETHINKINGBAGGINS for $50 off! *A special thanks to Josh Gilbert for managing the podcast, Marty Fredrick for producing the podcast, and Dan Koch for providing music for the podcast. Love you guys

Summary In this conversation, Dan Koch and Sarah Lane Ritchie discuss the challenges and complexities of worship music in evangelical and mainline churches. They explore the role of music in worship and the potential for manipulation and harm. Takeaways Music can be a powerful tool in worship, but it can also be used to manipulate and harm individuals. The assumption that if something is God, it cannot be described or understood is a dualistic perspective that limits our understanding of the divine. Music can be seen as a spiritual technology that helps individuals connect with the divine and create meaningful experiences. The conflation of music with God can lead to harmful beliefs and practices, particularly in evangelical contexts. The cultural reaction against evangelical worship music is often rooted in the harm caused by these practices, but it is important to recognize that music can have different effects on individuals. Worship music plays a significant role in both evangelical and mainline churches, but it can also be a source of tension and trauma for many individuals. There is a need for intentional curation of worship experiences to ensure they are emotionally and cognitively engaging, while also avoiding manipulation and harm. Embodied community is essential for a fulfilling worship experience, as digital communities cannot fully replace the benefits of in-person connection. Finding a balance between the positive and negative aspects of religious traditions is a challenge, but it is possible to navigate a path that allows for personal growth and flourishing. Worship music has the potential to cultivate a dispositional openness to what is both communal and divine, providing a sense of belonging and connection to something greater than oneself. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Self-Description 03:22 Exploring the Role of Music in Worship  10:40 The Harm of Conflating Music with God  25:09 The Cultural Reaction Against Evangelical Worship Music 37:27 The Cognitive and Emotional Challenges of Worship Music 41:39 The Perception of Modern Evangelical Worship 46:25 Religion as Nuclear Fission: The Power and Potential Dangers 59:39 The Dispositional Openness Cultivated by Worship Music 01:09:29 Navigating the Complexities of Faith and Tradition You Have Permission Podcast Sarah's Faculty Page Sarah's Twitter _________________________________________________ if you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here! Get Tickets to Beer Camp (PROMO: TNEHOBBIT) Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals  Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you've been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We've built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week my friend Kenneth McIntosh is back on the podcast to discuss his new book "The Secret of the Green Man's Soul". This is a fun conversation where Kenneth invites us into the mysteries of the Green Man, something I knew very little about. We have a wide ranging conversation discussing the history of the Green Man, spirituality, the importance of symbols, nature, religious pluralism, and more. Enjoy! RESOURCES: The Secret of the Green Man's Soul (Book) Join the Patreon for 2 monthly bonus episodes + add-free listening! THEOLOGY BEER CAMP 2024 Use code RETHINKINGBAGGINS for $50 off your ticket! *A special thanks to Josh Gilbert for managing the podcast, to Marty Fredrick for producing the podcast, and Dan Koch for providing music for the podcast. Love you guys

There's a fair amount of research to support the notion that spirituality and religion can be awfully good for people (and for their kids). But organized religion doesn't exactly have a spotless track record - no matter what faith you're talking about. Plus Matt and Max both grew up pretty much full-on heathen, so even if they do buy into the benefits, is religion really something that they could genuinely incorporate into their families' lives? The Boys welcome the refreshingly open-minded Dan Koch to the program to hash it out. Dan hosts the brilliant podcast You Have Permission. He was raised Evangelical, left it behind, and became a therapist and researcher (with a focus on spiritual trauma) - all while remaining a person of deep faith. Dan has spent much of his life thinking about the babies and bathwaters of spirituality and religion - and as a father, he spends a lot of time trying to figure out what that looks like for families and kids. How do we give our children access and exposure to the innate human drives for meaning, transcendence, and connection to something bigger than ourselves… without shoving a bunch of mumbo-jumbo down their throats? Let's go!Listen to Max and Matt on Dan Koch's Podcast You Have Permission:On Apple PodcastsOn Spotify PodcastsDan Koch's LinktreeBuy Violet Archer on Amazon Here

This week Jared Byas returns to the podcast to play a little game I like to call 20ish Q's. We had a great time, covered a lot of topics, and shared a lot of laughter! Enjoy. RESOURCES: The Bible for Normal People THEOLOGY BEER CAMP: Come hang out with Jared Byas, Pete Enns, and myself at Theology Beer Camp! Use promo code RETHINKINGBAGGINS for $50 off! *A special thanks to Josh Gilbert for managing the podcast, Marty Fredrick for producing the podcast, and Dan Koch for providing music for the podcast. Love you guys

Summary In this conversation, Tim Whitaker and Dan Koch discuss the upcoming book by Richard B. Hayes, a respected New Testament scholar, titled 'The Widening of God's Mercy: A Thoroughly Biblical Account of LGBTQ Affirmation in the Church.' They explore the potential impact of the book and the various reactions it has received. They also discuss the importance of acknowledging the harm caused by previous non-affirming positions and the need for an apology. They consider the strategic implications of the book and its potential to shift the conversation in white evangelical spaces. They highlight the importance of listening to the voices of queer Christian scholars and the potential for the book to provide validation and support for those navigating their faith and sexuality. In this conversation, Tim Whitaker and Dan Koch discuss the complexities of personal beliefs and the influence of family and media. They explore the idea of holding contradictory views and the importance of integration and growth. Takeaways Richard B. Hayes, a respected New Testament scholar, has written a book titled 'The Widening of God's Mercy: A Thoroughly Biblical Account of LGBTQ Affirmation in the Church.' The book has received various reactions, ranging from skepticism to hopefulness. It is important to acknowledge the harm caused by previous non-affirming positions and to apologize for the damage done. The book has the potential to make a significant impact in white evangelical spaces, particularly among the rank and file members of churches. The strategic implications of the book should be considered, as it may provide validation and support for those navigating their faith and sexuality. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Background 06:47 Reactions and Expectations 26:52 Validation and Support for Navigating Faith and Sexuality 42:28 The Importance of Integration and Growth Connect with Dan Koch Check out our website for merch, educational materials, and how to join our community! If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here! Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals  Subscribe On YouTube The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you've been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We've built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dr Kirk Honda interviews Dan Koch (from the You Have Permission Podcast) about his new psychometric survey that measures religious abuse.From our sponsor, BetterHelp: Need a therapist? Try BetterHelp! https://www.betterhelp.com/kirkGet started today and enjoy 10% off your first month. Discount code “KIRK" will be automatically applied.00:00 Introducing Dan Koch & liberal christianity 12:51 How do some fall victim to the culture war?25:10 What is spiritual abuse?29:14 Koch's Spiritual Harm & Abuse Scale criteria49:24 Upholding the status quo & masculinity1:11:13 Christianity & choice1:23:36 Where to find Dan1:26:09 Christian YouTube discourseBecome a member: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOUZWV1DRtHtpP2H48S7iiw/joinBecome a patron: https://www.patreon.com/PsychologyInSeattleEmail: https://www.psychologyinseattle.com/contactWebsite: https://www.psychologyinseattle.comMerch: https://teespring.com/stores/psychology-in-seattleCameo: https://www.cameo.com/kirkhondaInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/psychologyinseattle/Facebook Official Page: https://www.facebook.com/PsychologyInSeattle/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@kirk.hondaApril 10, 2024The Psychology In Seattle Podcast ®Trigger Warning: This episode may include topics such as assault, trauma, and discrimination. If necessary, listeners are encouraged to refrain from listening and care for their safety and well-being.Disclaimer: The content provided is for educational, informational, and entertainment purposes only. Nothing here constitutes personal or professional consultation, therapy, diagnosis, or creates a counselor-client relationship. Topics discussed may generate differing points of view. If you participate (by being a guest, submitting a question, or commenting) you must do so with the knowledge that we cannot control reactions or responses from others, which may not agree with you or feel unfair. Your participation on this site is at your own risk, accepting full responsibility for any liability or harm that may result. Anything you write here may be used for discussion or endorsement of the podcast. Opinions and views expressed by the host and guest hosts are personal views. Although, we take precautions and fact check, they should not be considered facts and the opinions may change. Opinions posted by participants (such as comments) are not those of the hosts. Readers should not rely on any information found here and should perform due diligence before taking any action. For a more extensive description of factors for you to consider, please see www.psychologyinseattle.com