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We conclude our series about the Jewish roots of Christianity. From our May 25 Sunday gathering. This week's discussion questions are below: May 25 Discussion Questions Have you ever struggled with the apparent contrast between the God of the Old Testament and the God revealed in Jesus? How does the idea of progressive revelation help make sense of this tension? 2. What stood out to you about the quote: *“God is the name of the blanket we throw over mystery to give it shape”*? How does that reshape how you think about theology? 3. What are some ways that learning about Jewish thought and tradition has deepened or challenged your understanding of Christianity? 4. In what ways has the church you've experienced leaned more toward a "Marcionite" view—separating the OT God from Jesus? 5. How does the Jewish idea of *Olam Haba* differ from the traditional Christian views of heaven or hell you grew up with? 6. Why do you think Jesus emphasized a “reversal” in the world to come—“the last will be first, and the first will be last”? What does that tell us about God's values? 7. Does the vision of a restored creation (rather than a disembodied heaven) affect how you think about your purpose here and now? 8. What does it look like to live today as if the *Olam Haba* is already breaking into this world? 9. In what ways can we help “colonize earth with the life of heaven,” as N.T. Wright puts it? 10. How does this vision of the future affect how you view justice, mercy, or forgiveness in your daily life?

In the second century, the post-apostolic church learned to read its emerging Scriptures, shape its practice, and endure episodic Roman persecutions that claimed witnesses such as Ignatius and Polycarp. Confronted by gnostic, Marcionite, and Montanist movements, they clarified orthodoxy and fostered the monarchical episcopate, laying the structural and theological foundations for the centuries to come. Title: Overview of the 2nd Century Date: 100 - 200 AD Place: Roman Empire Key Figures and Events: Heretics, Gnosticism, Martyrs, Emperors, and Theologians Contact: churchhistoryandtheology@proton.me License: Church History and Theology is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International License. For full license details, please visit https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/4.0/ Under this license, you are free to download, copy, share, remix, and translate episodes. You must credit Church History and Theology, link to the license, and indicate if changes were made. These materials may not be used for commercial purposes.

Christian Bible BEFORE The Catholic Church Manipulated (brainstorming early Bible project)David Litwa on Marcionite churches: https://www.youtube.com/live/7mYsO2R3tGA?si=ZeP4Z4i52BBCPghE1996+ or Jason Badoon (sp?) English or Greek.Vs very first Bible- doesn't show how they derived. 19th century are flawed.Don't want to depend on Catholic edition with Marcion, Romans 15&16 didn't exist, this is a Catholic fictional PaulNina Livesey: https://youtu.be/S4zDfTawiCQ?si=nqesgojg31brQQ7J

When we talk about “the Early Church” many people's minds immediately go to the first generation of Christianity, recorded in the Book of Acts and addressed in the New Testament. But what happened after that, and why does it matter for Christians living today? Matt Pursley is the Executive Pastor at Park Hill Church in San Diego, California. He has a Masters in Christian History, and in this episode, Matt and I discuss the First Council of Nicaea: what led to it and what it produced. We address many of the common misconceptions about Nicaea, and we discuss the early heresies of Marcionism, Gnosticism, and Arianism, and why it's important for Christians today to understand those heresies, and why they were rejected. Along the way we also talk about Jordan Peterson, who Matt says is a modern Marcionite, and how the errors of both liberalism and fundamentalism have a similar origin. Visit the Theology for the People website at nickcady.org --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/theologyforthepeople/support

The Stuff That Heresies Are Made Of. In this episode, we discuss Ireneaus' attack on the Marcionite and Gnostic heresies, which sought to divide Christ's two natures, and the ramifications of this teaching for the churches today. — SHOW NOTES: The Christological Controversy (Sources of Early Christian Thought) https://amzn.to/3fCTrEv  SUPPORT 1517 Podcast Network https://www.1517.org/podcasts/ Support the work of 1517 http://1517.org/give Warrior Priest Gym & Podcast https://thewarriorpriestpodcast.wordpress.com St John's Lutheran Church (Webster, MN) - FB Live Bible Study Group https://www.facebook.com/groups/356667039608511 Gillespie's Sermons and Catechesis: https://stjohnrandomlake.org/church/media/ Gillespie Coffee https://gillespie.coffee Gillespie Media https://gillespie.media The Banned Pastors https://t.me/bannedpastors CONTACT and FOLLOW BannedBooks@1517.org Facebook Twitter SUBSCRIBE YouTube Rumble Odysee Apple Podcasts Spotify Stitcher Overcast Google Play TuneIn Radio iHeartRadio

According to archives released by the Vatican library, the original Greek source material used by St. Jerome to translate the apostle Paul's epistles into the Latin Vulgate Bible were obtained from the Marcionite Church in the 4th century. But it bears little resemblance to what's in your bible today. In this episode we journey back in the past to get the scoop on a still-evolving story of strange bedfellows, creative editing and a mysterious release from the Vatican library. Vatican/Marcion Documents (original): https://digi.vatlib.it/mss/detail/214664 Vatican/Marcion Documents (sorted and annotated): https://www.theveryfirstbible.org/vatican.html Marcionite Church press release following Vatican library discovery: https://www.prlog.org/12829026-first-bible-vindicated-after-vatican-release-shows-epistles-based-on-marcionite-scripture.html St. Jerome and history of translations and 'creative interpretations': https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerome The First New Testament: Marcion's Scriptural Canon by Jason D. BeDuhn: https://muse.jhu.edu/article/553692/pdf The Very First Bible (free ebook): https://www.theveryfirstbible.org/Ebook.html FBN News Channel: https://www.news.firstbiblenetwork.com --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/firstbiblenetwork/message

Reconnecting with your true Christian heritage starts with language, context and facts. And for the last 1,600 years you've been fed a thin gruel indeed of all three. In today's episode we open up the spiritual menu and order in a second language that should come to you pretty easily. Hellenization: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hellenization Why Study the Koine Greek Language with Peter Watts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmHvn66p_Ww I Corinthians reading in Greek https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzYeBa6LJLo First Bible 'vindicated' after Vatican release shows Epistles based on Marcionite scripture https://www.prlog.org/12829026-first-bible-vindicated-after-vatican-release-shows-epistles-based-on-marcionite-scripture.html 1st century uncial Greek fonts http://individual.utoronto.ca/atloder/uncialfonts.html Song of Seikilos - Oldest complete musical composition https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIFcIE23Su4 Koine Greek Utilities https://www.koinegreek.com/greek-audio-reader The Oldest Inscription Bearing Jesus' Name (and why you never heard of it) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8dFJ_1UbOY FirstNews Video Headlines https://www.news.firstbiblenetwork.com The Very First Bible https://www.theveryfirstbible.org Marcionite Christian Church https://www.marcionitechurch.org --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/firstbiblenetwork/message

Hundreds of years before the translations, editing, creative interpretation and influence of Judaizers, there was the original Book of Galatians. Through a special arrangement with the Marcionite Christian Church it is presented today unabridged from the audiobook version of The Very First Bible. Narrated by Darren Kelama, host of First Bible Network. Like all of the Apostle Paul's epistles it was written in Greek. Later, his letters were acquired from the Marcionite Church by St. Jerome and translated into Latin in the 4th century. It would become the Latin Vulgate and look very different from Paul's original letters. The provenance and proof of St. Jerome's epistles acquisition from the Marcionite Church is maintained in the Vatican Library (link below). Why the epistles contained in the modern bible are so different from the originals is a question only the Catholic Church can answer. Relevant links: First Bible 'vindicated' after Vatican release shows Epistles based on Marcionite scripture https://www.prlog.org/12829026-first-bible-vindicated-after-vatican-release-shows-epistles-based-on-marcionite-scripture.html https://www.theveryfirstbible.org https://www.marcionitechurch.org https://www.firstbiblenetwork.com --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/firstbiblenetwork/message

In this episode, we continue our trek through the Clementine Homilies by briefly discussing Simon Magus. He appears in the canonical book of Acts. In the Homilies, he appears as a principal opponent of the community behind the Clementine Homilies. Simon appears to be combination of Marcionite and Pauline thought as understood by the author of the Homilies. In response, the Homilies introduces the concept of the oral transmission of the Torah, textual corruption, and a startingly view of the sacrifices and the Temple. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/juan-marcos-gutierrez0/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/juan-marcos-gutierrez0/support

How does the Old Testament inform the forms, music and essence of Christian worship? Or, how not to be a Marcionite.

Wide-ranging discussion with Darren Kelama, Outreach Director for the Marcionite Christian Church and host of FirstNews on FBN. Topics include Marcionism, the Tor Onion network, censorship, Wikipedia and the Covid scam. Free Though Podcast: https://anchor.fm/free-thought Marcionite Christian Church: https://www.marcionitechurch.org --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/firstbiblenetwork/message

I talk with Darren Kalama of the Marcionite Christian Church. We talk about how the Marcionite Church is one of the only Christian churches to come out against the COVID insanity. We also discuss the history of the church and about Marcion of Sinope. Links: Church: https://www.marcionitechurch.org/ Marcionite Bible: https://www.theveryfirstbible.org/ Marcionite News Network: https://www.firstbiblenetwork.com/ Marcionite Podcast: https://therightbible.sounder.fm/ --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/aaronolson/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/aaronolson/support

I talk with Darren Kalama of the Marcionite Christian Church. We talk about how the Marcionite Church is one of the only Christian churches to come out against the COVID insanity. We also discuss the history of the church and about Marcion of Sinope. Links: Church: https://www.marcionitechurch.org/ Marcionite Bible: https://www.theveryfirstbible.org/ Marcionite News Network: https://www.firstbiblenetwork.com/ Marcionite Podcast: https://therightbible.sounder.fm/ --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/aaronolson/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/aaronolson/support

I talk with Darren Kalama of the Marcionite Christian Church. We talk about how the Marcionite Church is one of the only Christian churches to come out against the COVID insanity. We also discuss the history of the church and about Marcion of Sinope. Links: Church: https://www.marcionitechurch.org/ Marcionite Bible: https://www.theveryfirstbible.org/ Marcionite News Network: https://www.firstbiblenetwork.com/ Marcionite Podcast: https://therightbible.sounder.fm/

Who 'ya gonna call when your church is Wiki-slimed by Wikipedia? In today's episode FBN takes a closer look at how massive media monopolies owned by a tiny group of people are digitally stoning their Christian enemies over the Covid scam. And in the last segment of the show, FBN offers a reward of one (1) bitcoin to the editors responsible for the Wiki article if they can prove one of their baseless, slanderous assertions. Links mentioned in the show: https://www.theveryfirstbible.org Larry Sanger explains how Wikipedia, the company he co-founded, has been subverted and taken over by Bolsheviks: https://larrysanger.org/2020/05/wikipedia-is-badly-biased https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McoEd6VqijY Soros, Google, Youtube and Wikipedia: https://www.dr-rath-foundation.org/2018/10/wikipedia-the-george-soros-connection https://techcrunch.com/2019/01/22/google-org-donates-2-million-to-wikipedias-parent-org https://www.marcionitechurch.org https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcionite_Christian_Church --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/firstbiblenetwork/message

On the Priesthood By Larry Beane,   Those who read theology from the first fifteen hundred years of the church will find the office of the ministry referred to as the “priesthood.” In fact, I theologically appropriated the title of this post from St. John Chrysostom, whose book is still studied in seminaries. The book is about the pastoral office, not about the priesthood of all believers. Obviously, the words “priest” and “priesthood” are nuanced and require context. For example, ministers of Pagan religions are often called priests. Mormons and Freemasons use the term “priesthood.” Within Christianity, laymen of both sexes are also called priests. To this day, not only Roman Catholic pastors, but also ministers in the Anglican and Orthodox communions are called priests. Some Protestants - and even some Lutherans - argue that the Old Testament Church had priests, but in the New Testament, all believers are priests - thus drawing an equivalency between the clergy and the laity. The proof text of this neo-Marcionite understanding of the “priesthood of believers” is 1 Peter 2:9: But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for his own possession, that you may proclaim the excellencies of him who called you out of darkness into his marvelous light. The Greek translated as “royal priesthood” is “βασίλειον ἱεράτευμα.” The Old Testament people of God are described in our English translations not as a “royal priesthood,” but rather as a “kingdom of priests” - as in Exodus 19:6, in which God directs Moses: and you shall be to me a kingdom of priests and a holy nation.' These are the words that you shall speak to the people of Israel.” However, what is often unnoticed or unspoken is the fact that the Septuagint renders the expression “kingdom of priests” as “βασίλειον ἱεράτευμα”! So it isn't like St. Peter has created a new category of lay-priests for the New Testament Church. Rather, He is quoting Moses in Exodus 19 and applying it to the saints of the New Testament. In other words, even in the Old Testament, where Aaronic and Levitical priests held a priesthood distinct from the laity, nevertheless, even in Israel, there was a priesthood of all believers. And yet this universal priesthood did not negate the priesthood of the called and ordained ministers who were set apart by their vocation of service. St. Paul speaks of his service in the Holy Ministry to the Gentiles as “the priestly service (Greek: ἱερουργοῦντα) of the gospel of God” (Romans 15:16). The most commonly used word to describe one in the Office of the Holy Ministry in our Book of Concord is “priest.” And this is not merely the acceptance of the term to describe the Roman clergy, as many people claim. The expression “our priests” - meaning Lutheran priests - is found in the Augsburg Confession in Articles 23 and 24, and in the Apology in Article 14. Some people argue that the Lutherans stopped using the term “priest” by the time of the Formula of Concord. But this is simply not true. One of the voluminous examples can be found in a recent Gottesblogpost quoting a 1616 order from a margrave regarding the conduct of the liturgy by Lutheran priests. Some of the objection to the term has to do with the association of priesthood with sacrifice. But there is certainly a sense in which all Christians - including the clergy - offer sacrifices. Of course, these are not propitious sacrifices, not the shedding of blood as an atonement. But these are sacrifices of thanksgiving and praise, what our Book of Concord refers to as Eucharistic sacrifices. In Romans 12:1, St. Paul speaks of Christians offering themselves as “living sacrifices.” In Lutheran church bodies where the traditional order of clergy has been retained: bishop, priest, and deacon, the term “priest” is obviously more common. You will find this in the Scandinavian, African, Baltic, Indian, and Russian Lutheran churches. This nomenclature even appears in the LCMS Reporter in an article that mentions “Swedish Lutheran priests.” It should be noted that maintaining the traditional church order of bishops, priests, and deacons was the explicit preference of the reformers, and it is stated as such in the Book of Concord (Apology 14:24): The Fourteenth Article, in which we say that in the Church the administration of the Sacraments and Word ought to be allowed no one unless he be rightly called, they receive, but with the proviso that we employ canonical ordination. Concerning this subject we have frequently testified in this assembly that it is our greatest wish to maintain church-polity and the grades in the Church [old church-regulations and the government of bishops], even though they have been made by human authority [provided the bishops allow our doctrine and receive our priests]. For we know that church discipline was instituted by the Fathers, in the manner laid down in the ancient canons, with a good and useful intention. I find it a distracting innovation for some modern LCMS writers to refer to the laity as the “priesthood” and the clergy as something else. It is as though in the Lutheran confession, a man is defrocked from the priesthood upon ordination. These kinds of severances from our past - both post- and pre-Reformation - give the impression that we are sectarian, or at least that we align ourselves with the radical reformation rather than the catholic chain of continuity that links us back to the apostles and to our Lord Himself. We should not try to exert a Lutheran distinction just for the sake of it, especially when the overwhelming theme of the Book of Concord is to make the case that we are Catholic Christians in continuity from the early Church and not an innovative heresy. We don't make that case every well when we insist on shunning the traditional terminology that Book of Concord employs. As is typical with our Symbols, the Apology delivers the right balance between distinguishing our theology from that of our Roman Catholic adversaries, while not throwing the baby out with the bathwater in the manner of our Protestant adversaries: “They are accordingly called priests, not in order to make any sacrifices for the people as in the Law, so that by these they may merit remission of sins for the people; but they are called to teach the Gospel and administer the Sacraments to the people. Nor do we have another priesthood like the Levitical, as the Epistle to the Hebrews sufficiently teaches. But if ordination be understood as applying to the ministry of the Word, we are not unwilling to call ordination a sacrament. For the ministry of the Word has God's command and glorious promises, Rom. 1:16: The Gospel is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth. Likewise, Is. 55:11: So shall My Word be that goeth forth out of My mouth; it shall not return unto Me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please. If ordination be understood in this way, neither will we refuse to call the imposition of hands a sacrament. For the Church has the command to appoint ministers, which should be most pleasing to us, because we know that God approves this ministry, and is present in the ministry [that God will preach and work through men and those who have been chosen by men]. And it is of advantage, so far as can be done, to adorn the ministry of the Word with every kind of praise against fanatical men, who dream that the Holy Ghost is given not through the Word, but because of certain preparations of their own, if they sit unoccupied and silent in obscure places, waiting for illumination, as the Enthusiasts formerly taught, and the Anabaptists now teach.” — APOLOGY 13:9-13

Textual recital of the eschatology described on seven pages within The Gospel of the Lord (Paul's revelation) as we read it in The Very First Bible of 144 A.D. Links mentioned in the show: First Bible Network https://www.fbn.theveryfirstbible.org​ Marcionite discussion page https://www.reddit.com/r/MarcioniteCh...​ The Very First Bible https://www.theveryfirstbible.org --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/firstbiblenetwork/message

The complete audiobook is available for purchase at Audible.com: https://adbl.co/36720zn The Gospel of the Lord By Marcion of Sinope Translated by James Hamlyn Hill Narrated by Denis Daly According to Tertullian and others Marcion was the son of a bishop, and was born at Sinope, in Pontus. He arrived in Rome in about 140 CE, bringing a scripture with him that he named “The Gospel of the Lord.” Marcion described this not as a new gospel, but as that which Saint Paul had used, and which he communicated to the churches he founded. In his early enthusiasm for the faith. Marcion bestowed a large donation upon the church at Rome, in which he aspired to a position of influence. However, due to his controversial views, he was later excommunicated as a heretic. He died about 170 CE. Marcion ignored traditions of doctrine and practice, and rejected the principle of allegorical interpretation, as it was applied by others to the Old Testament. He considered Saint Paul to be the only true apostle, and he condemned all others for having relapsed into Judaism. Marcion tried in vain to remodel the church at Rome in accordance with these views, and set out to establish an organised ecclesiastical system of his own. He succeeded so well that by the fourth century Marcionite congregations were to be found spread across the Middle East and Europe. Although the Marcionite sect has long since been obliterated, Marcion remains one of the most influential figures in the history of Christianity.

Marcus Grodi and Msgr. Jeffrey Steenson continue their study of Against Heresies by St. Irenaeus of Lyons by beginning Book 4 of one of the most famous and important works of early Christian literature.Here, St. Irenaeus deals with the Marcionite heresy, which pitted the New Testament against the Old Testament, and Jesus against the traditional Jewish concept of God. Irenaeus defends the orthodox Christian teaching that Jesus Christ is co-eternal with the Father as the second person of the Trinity, and who became flesh and dwelt among us, as St. John testifies in his Gospel.Find more episodes at www.deepinhistory.com.

Tom and Ryan Bigham continue their series of conversations on the importance of the ecumenical creeds with a conversation on the Apostle's Creed.  The dangers that the Apostle's Creed addressed are resurrected in just about every generation and the guys outline a few of those for us in this episode.  We also have a "little fun with northerners" as we talk about the differences in our vocabulary...oh and we have stumbled upon a T-shirt idea for Ordinary Grace.  "Don't be a Marcionite" (Pronounced Marshionite).Tune in!  

On today's podcast, I answered three listener questions.  1. Is David Bentley Hart a Marcionite? 2. Do Lutherans believe in consubstantiation? 3. Is there really a difference between Calvin and Zwingli on the Lord's Supper? This is the first of a two-part Q&A series this month.

In this episode, we evaluate a series of sermons by Andy Stanley that made waves through American Christianity last summer. Here are a link to the three sermons on Youtube: 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmoTAtH3zus 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBX08olAoFw 3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pShxFTNRCWI Here are the books we mentioned or quoted: 1. The First Christian by Paul Zahl 2. The Catholic Religion by Vernon Staley What We're Into: The Tolle Lege Podcast: Apple and Google Miss Lonely Hearts by Nathaniel West

What is the oldest textual reference for John the Baptist? Did Mark describe John the Baptist as wearing a camel-hair shirt and eating locusts? Could Mark be a redacted version of the Marcion gospel? Are you aware of anyone who has tried to apply a Marcionite lens to Mark and what is the best secondary source on Marcionite theology? Have you ever heard of the 'Recovery Bible' (translated from Polish) and what are your thoughts on bibles with excessive annotations? Could the name Peter (Cephas) in the bible be a mistranslation? Please comment on Arthur Darby Nock and the current view of his work. What is the true meaning of the parable of the Prodigal Son? In the end of Mark (chapters 15, 16), why are there different descriptions for Mary the mother of Jesus? Did Bruce Metzger believe Gnosticism influenced Christianity, and what does that mean for Bart Ehrman?

Brent continues his case for the Old Testament in light of neo-Marcionite rhetoric from the likes of Andy Stanley.

In 144 AD Marcion of Sinope declared to his followers that the God of the Old Testament was not the same as the God of the New Testament. He rejected the Hebrew Bible and taught that the God portrayed in these books was wrathful and harsh. On the other hand, he taught that the God of the New Testament is a God of love and forgiveness. As a result, Marcion and his followers dropped the Old Testament and edited out all the Old Testament quotations from the New Testament. While the Marcionite heresy was rejected by the early Church, his false assumptions continue to creep into the Church. Is the God of the Old Testament essentially different than the God of the New? Is the God of Moses different than the God of Jesus? In our passage for this Sunday we are confronted with a picture of God that seems very foreign to us. In Numbers 31 the Lord commands Israel to engage in a Holy War against the Midianites. Could a God who commands that men, women and children be executed be the same God who calls us to love our enemies? In this week’s sermon we will explore the concept of a Holy War. Here we will see that in Christ God’s wrath and love come together in a Holy War aimed at peace. Reading: Numbers 31, Isaiah 2:2-4, Ephesians 6:12, Revelation 19:11-16 and Westminster Confession of Faith 33.

This week on Armed Lutheran Radio we learn about the word “Marcionism,” a 2nd Century gnostic heresy taught by Marcion of Sinope. Marcion suggested that the God of the Old Testament and the God of the New Testament are different gods. One is violent and cruel, the other loving and forgiving. That heresy survives today at Clackamass United Church of Christ where Rev. Adam Erickson hates the story of Noah and the flood because the “God character” in that story is nothing like Jesus. THIS EPISODE IS BROUGHT TO YOU BY COOK'S HOLSTERS. AMERICAN MADE CUSTOM HOLSTERS WITH A 100% SATISFACTION GUARANTEE. www.CooksHolsters.com Links of Interest Patheos.com – Sermon: Swimming through the Flood – Guns, Violence, and US Politics CARM.org – What is Marcionism? GunMag Warehouse – Need more Magazines? Find out what gun magazines we have for you! Shop ModernSpartanSystems.com for the best cleaning, lubrication, and accuracy products for firearms. Everyday Cigar Deals Get Regular Refills Coffee Subscriptions at the Dunkin' Donuts Shop Now! Legal Plans Starting at $24.95/month. Shop LegalShield Today! Shop Firearms and Guns at Palmetto State Armory.  Aaron Israel of Fundamental Defense Would you know what to do if you or someone with you got bitten by a snake? If you like to hike or go camping, knowing what to do should be part of your personal defense strategy. Ballistic Minute with Sergeant Bill There's a sickness sweeping the competitive shooting world. Gear Acquisition Syndrome or G.A.S. Mia's Motivations with Mia Anstine Muzzle breaks can be a great addition to your rifle. Clinging to God and Guns Pastor Bennett is back from vacation and he and Lloyd are looking at a smug Marcionite who hates the Biblical Story of the flood because our world is already too violent with all the school shootings so we don’t need stories about God being violent. Prayer of the Week Let Your merciful ears, O Lord, be open to the prayers of Your humble servants; and that they may obtain their petitions, make them to ask such things as shall please You; through Jesus Christ, Your Son, our Lord. Amen. Our Closing Theme A rockin' rendition of A Mighty Fortress is Our God, performed just for Armed Lutheran Radio by Kenny Gates. Thank you to our Reformation Gun Club members! Bryan P., David H., David W., Gordon L., Jackie R., James M., John N., Kalroy, Tyler C., Frank S., Vince W., Harold U., Douglas R., Lucas A., Dave V., Robert M., Russell W., and Marc L.

How are we to understand the forgiving and compassionate ministry of Jesus against the backdrop of Torah and some of the harsh punishments demanded by God of sinners? An answer offered by Marcion of Sinope (2nd cent.) was simply that there exits 2 deities - essentially a harsh God of the Hebrews and a more compassionate God of Jesus. And while most of us would quickly reject Marcionism when presented this way, it turns out many of our views of salvation - and indeed our worship - are quite Marcionite! The texts for this sermon are: Lev. 24:10-23 (NRSV), Matt. 5:38-48 (NRSV) and Rom. 7:4-25 (NRSV).   Want to support the podcast?  CLICK HERE for ways to help! Want to connect?  You can send e-mail here. Or find me on Facebook, Twitter and Instagram.

The first time I attended an Orthodox service, two arrogant young men told me how they fled to Orthodoxy because they thought the Bible was full of errors. In the last ten years since, I have seen nothing but compromise and caving by many leaders, largely due to the funders of the seminaries. Although I don’t know if Fr. Stephen Freeman was indirectly responding to my gnostic talk (where I mentioned him in passing) in his latest article, his conflation of hermeneutics with textual issues is a consistent one and illustrates a continuing prevalence amongst many so-called Orthodox. In our day, especially among the Ameridox, we see the tendency to deride, misinterpret and discount the Law and Prophets and their historicity based on false assumptions, ignorance, heresy and modernism. In the case of Fr. Stephen Freeman, he believes that somehow Orthodoxy allows him to not worry about the historical veracity of the text and that this is “patristic.” It is not biblical, patristic or Orthodox.I left a brief paragraph response and link to my Inerrancy article and he deleted the comment, meaning he is not willing to engage in a debate on the topic – probably because he cannot answer the objection. As a result, not only will I make that point, but will follow with this 2 hour video completely refuting his flawed position. Fr. Stephen Freeman is a test case of the (sadly) many examples of Marcionite-tainted leaders (across denominations) who think “allegorization” means being a-historical. Ironically, St. Irenaeus’ Book III and IV of Against Heresies laboriously attempt to argue against Marcionism on the basis of the historicity of the Old Testament (a quote he misuses)! And not only St. Irenaeus, but all the fathers teach inerrancy and uphold the veracity of the history recorded. See my old article on inerrancy here, and my article on how typology is based on historicity here.Individuals who attend universities and have their faith challenged or destroyed on the basis of higher criticism or New Age nonsense are often oblivious to the fact their universities are in some cases funded by Satanists. In the case of Duke University, the heirs themselves claim their family were Satanists. It’s not rocket science why Duke University promotes Satanic anti-christian doctrines – and it’s not “fundamentalism.” As I point out in my talk, “fundamentalism” historically means anything in the Apostle’s Creed like miracles or Virgin Birth – but Fr. Freeman conflates this with textual interpretation and “literalism.” I don’t cite this to say Fr. Freeman is any occultist, but that he and many like him who attend such schools rarely look to who the schools’ wealthy donors may be and what philosophy they may want to inculcate.Of course, in the minds of many of these modern prelates and so-called leaders, there is no devil and Satanism doesn’t exist – and the Rockefellers had no plans or designs with ecumenism, either, even though their authorized biography says they did. Take note and watch to see if Fr. Stephen Freeman responds to me with an ad homimen or “nutball” dismissal (as if this site and channel don’t garner far more traffic than his) and you’ll know he has no response. For those who will say I am being presumptuous, he shouldn’t have deleted my comment (below) for no reason:“If this was an attempt at responding to my criticisms, you have misunderstood the point. The question is about higher criticism and the historicity of the texts and how the New Testament interprets the Old. So a textual issue and the veracity of the texts is different issue from hermeneutics. You have confined the issue to hermeneutics of “literal” versus typological – which is not even in debate, as everyone interprets the texts in some form, based on their nature – prophetic, historiographical, poetic, etc. In the Middle Ages, both East and West, it was normative to use the four-fold sense, and if you’re aware of that, your response misses the mark. Furthermore, even the Alexandrian School of allegorization retains the validity of the literal sense except in the case of Origen. For the Great Hierarchs or St Athanasius, you will not find a rejection of the historicity of the texts – this is why they consistently say the texts are infallible, inerrant and authoritative. You will never find St. Maximos denying the historicity of the texts or their general validity. In St. Paul’s allegory in Galatians 4 the allegory is *based* on the historicity of Hagar and Sarah – not on their non-existence. Anyone familiar with the medieval fourfold sense would know this.”

Pastor Gordon expounds upon the Bible and crushes the rebooted Marcionite heresies of our times that have shrunken down the otherwise "Great Commission" into a not-so-great mission of getting people ready to die. Rediscover the "GREAT" Commission for what the early church always knew it was! Learn how you can fulfill it by equipping people to live in the power of the Kingdom of God! Learn why it is impossible to understand the New Testament Great Commission without viewing it through the original version first delivered to Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden. Rather than incorrectly viewing the New Testament as Jesus arriving to end God's old campaign and start something fresh and different, embrace the freedom in knowing that the New Testament is actually an expansion of what God was already doing in the earth before Christ arrived. See Jesus as the Divine Catalyst - God in flesh - who came to redirect a wayward, rebellious people back toward redemption through forgiveness of sins. Learn the ongoing tremendous privilege of creating "once-born" lives through the grace of life given to a husband and wife in marriage (a picture of Christ's church), leading to the triumph of the church, which is given the grace of life to produce "twice-born" sons and daughters of God through faith in the finished work of Jesus Christ!

Was Marcion really a Marcionite? Are you?

If Mark meant us to understand Jesusâ?? baptism as the messianic anointing by Elijah, wouldnâ??t this fend off the â??criterion of embarrassmentâ??? What would have happened if the Marcionite sect became the dominant and orthodox version of the church and how much different would Christianity today be because of it? In John 19:26 + 27, Jesus, on the cross, says to his mother "Woman, behold your son" and to a disciple standing by Mary "Behold your Mother". These two statements sound so human and vulnerable in their utterance, can this be the Son of God? Kim Lewis on the Synagogue of Satan. Galatians uses "Kephas" in 1:18, 2:9, 2:11 and 2:14, but "Petros" at 2:7 and 2:8. Are 2:7b and 2:8 are an interpolation, adding Peter's credentials as an apostle to the Jews? If Jesus hadn't been put to death on the cross, but had instead died of old age, would God have still raised him from the dead? And if so, would that death and resurrection have had the same supposed effect? Was Polycarp a student & colleague of John? What do you think about UFOs? Some say that it says in the "original manuscripts" that when Jesus says, "in my fatherâ??s house are many mansions (John 14:2)," the original words "house" and "mansions" were actual "cosmos" and "worlds," respectively. Is this true? Do you think John the Baptist ate locusts (egkrides), or pancakes (akrides)?

How could a copyist, seeing a body of text in the center, and notes in the margins, possibly confuse the two and combine them in his own copy? Would such things not be clearly delineated in ancient manuscripts? What about Michael S. Heiserâ??s Reversing Hermon: Enoch, the Watchers, & the Forgotten Mission of Jesus Christ, which, e.g., argues that 1 Corinthians 11:10 means to warn prophesying women to cover themselves lest they attract the lustful leer of evil angels who might beget in them a new race of Nephilim? Do you think that at least some of the NT authors believed that Jesusâ?? death provided salvation for every creation? Was Paul seeking theological approbation from the Pillars, thus acknowledging their superiority? Is it possible that universal education (including girls!) in the 3 Rs was available to Galileans?   Is it possible that Paul and Mohammed were working from the same source tradition that Mary, mother of Jesus, was Miriam, sister of Moses and Jesus was Joshua? Q and Thomas don't have a passion narrative, being merely lists of sayings. Does this imply that some Christians knew nothing of his death? How could Jesus have been fully human yet avoid all sinning? In your opinion which political philosophy would "Christianity" most be applicable to? I recently read "Is Lucianâ??s 'On the Death of Peregrinus' a Satire on Marcion?" by Hermann Detering and would like to hear your thoughts about Deterings speculations. Might the figure of Jesus have had such a sway on the imaginations and emotions of so many people throughout history because of his malleability, his dialectical ability to include opposites? In "The Synoptic Apocalypse (Mark 13 par): a document from the time of Bar Kochba" Hermann Detering claims that Mark 13:14-19â??s use of the phrase "when God created the world" is a refutation of the Gnostic and Marcionite belief that the Demiurge, not the most high God and the father of Christ, created the material world. What are your thoughts? Are there any instances in the NT of early Christians praying to a goddess?

Have The Christ Myth by Arthur Drews (1910) and Bible Myths and Their Parallels in Other Religions by TW Doane (1882) been superceded? Where have all the Deists gone? Do the numerous Moses-Jesus parallels imply that Moses was already viewed as a Messiah? Irenaeus in his Against Heresies (III,11.1) says, "John, the disciple of the Lord, preaches this faith, and seeks, by the proclamation of the Gospel, to remove that error which by Cerinthus had been disseminated among men..." What he is saying here is that John was written after to refute Cerinthus which is one smoking gun for the late date of John. There are scholars before and now that contend that it is the case and that John was the judaized and historicized version of Cerinthus' gospel. Are there any scholarly attempts to reconstruct the Cerinthus gospel just like scholars before and now have reconstructed Marcion's gospel of the lord which is being called as the "ur-lukas"? Can we consider the Cerinthus gospel as an "ur-john"? If 1 Corinthians 15:3-11 is not an interpolation, does it really back up the gospelsâ?? Easter stories? The listed appearances sound more like visions, while the rest of the chapter seems to understand the resurrection of Jesus as spiritual rather than physical. Is Mark 16:9-20 more Marcionite or Gnostic? Are the â??hate your familyâ?? passages in the gospels a reflection of the period when the Early Church Fathers are battling the heresies of Gnosticism? Reading the apocryphal "Life of John the Baptist" text recently, I noticed a present-tense reference to Theophilus, who identified as being in office. Is this the same Theophilus mention in Luke, eh? Is it reasonable to suggest that the Passion narratives are not meant to implicate and condemn Jews but rather to say that all humanity must be depraved if even the best of them, Jews, could be so blind to the truth? Iâ??m curious to hear what you might have to say about Lena Einhornâ??s new book, â??A Shift In Time: How Historical Documents Reveal the Surprising Truth about Jesusâ??? Are there links between the NT passages and Isaiah 65, which mentions eating unclean pigs and living in tombs? Is there a correlation between one not being able to look at the face of God and not being able to stare directly at the sun? Is the Deuteronomic prohibition of cross-dressing the product of the ancient Israelite taxonomies discussed by Mary Douglas?

Can you discuss the zombie story in the Book of Matthew? I always thought that Acts of the Apostles didn't mention the Pauline Epistles because they were Marcionite (and Acts is anti-marcionite in nature). If you are saying that the author of Acts also wrote the Pastoral, then what reason would the author have to not mention the Pastorals within Acts? Hebrews 8:10-11 says, "I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts... And they shall not teach very man his neighbor, and every man his brother, saying, know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest." Wouldn't this imply that proselytizing and preaching to the gentiles was against this covenant? "You have the right to work only, but never to its fruits. Let not the fruits of action be your motive, nor let your attachment be to inaction" (Bhagavad Gita 2:47). Is there a similar verse in the Bible? Wouldn't it have been more likely that Jesus would have been crucified on a tree? Is Noam Chomsky correct that the word "prophet" originally meant "dissident"? Might we not call one who believes Jesus existed but most of the stories are mythical a Jesus minimalist? What does it mean to say, "Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword"? In Lk 1:3, is Theophilus supposed to be a particular historical person? What do you know about the origin and the meaning of the belief that the world came into being "through" Christ? What translation of the Bible do you recommend for a critical reader?

By moving the Transfiguration to come after the 1st Passion Prediction (8:31), the redactor altered Mark's Gospel from clearly adoptionist to merely having adoptionist overtones, and screwed up the literary quality of the story. Were certain gospels, etc., excluded from the canon because they contained inconvenient statements that later church authorities were keen to gloss over? Any thoughts about the "family of Jesus" stuff, which I know of primarily from reading Mack and Eisenman? Could you please explain what the "rape of Dinah" story meant at that time? It occurs to me the "four facts" that Habermas, Licona, and Craig say prove the resurrection can be explained by something I've never seen the HLC crew challenged with: hoax. Have you, or other scholars, explored the possibility that the founding executive of Christianity was an insincere opportunist, along the lines of Lucian's Alexander, or Joseph Smith, or L. Ron Hubbard? Might the statement concerning John that "the least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he is" (Mt. 11:11) be Marcionite in origin? How would we recognize an original autograph manuscript of a NT book if we did find it? Is it fair to say that you are a full mythicist, while Bart Ehrman is a majority 75% or 90% mythicist? Why would someone trying to write a history intentionally do artsy things that expose it as literature? Are we to understand that the gospels were not intended to be history?

JRDK refuses to enable our Marcionite brethren who just want to talk about Jesus. But in the end, slogging through the First Testament text is worth it. 2 Samuel 7 God is identified with the story of the people, but God is going to be in charge of how it plays out. Tripp tells the… Read more about Kingship and the Identity of God

Beyond the canonical Gospels there are myriad other gospels and writings that give us a view of how Christianity developed in its early days. Ideas about who Jesus really was—fully realized Son of God? God in human form? Adopted Son of God? Ethereal spirit with no body?—were all a part of the mix of early Christianities. The various philosophies formed into groups of followers who developed their own rituals and traditions and lore. Join Karen and E.J. as they walk through these early ideas about the meaning of Jesus' life and how those ideas relate to our own ideas about Jesus today.

"The Green Pastures" is a 1930 American play, and 1936 Hollywood movie, that was once as famous as "Our Town". Now, for reasons of political correctness, it is rarely seen and seldom taught. Even the DVD has to carry a 'Warning' label. (Good Grief!) How dearly we have robbed ourselves of a pearl of truly great price. Marc Connelly's "The Green Pastures" deals theatrically with the transition in the Bible from Law to Grace. (It is not Marcionite!) Has God's Mercy, in relation to God's Law, ever been staged like this? I can't think of an example. You've got to see "The Green Pastures". The character 'Hezdrel', alone, will... blow... your... mind.