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My co-host Ken Suzan and I are welcoming you the episode 176 of the IP Fridays Podcast. Today's interview guest is returning guest Franklin Graves, who is a senior counsel at Linkedin and teaching IP law at Emerson College. With my co-host Ken Suzan he is discussing how the law for creators has dramatically changed in the past years. Franklin Graves is expressing his personal views and not the views of Linkedin or Microsoft. He is talking about the paper “Upload Complete” before he joined Linkedin. Bio: https://www.linkedin.com/in/franklingraves/ Paper: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=5271442 Website: https://creatoreconomylaw.com/ But before we jump into this interview, I have news for you! Richard Meade, a judge on the UK High Court and one of the most prominent figures in European patent law, was appointed Lord Justice of Appeal at the British Court of Appeal on June 12, 2026. Meade played a key role in numerous landmark British patent decisions, particularly in the area of standard-essential patents (SEPs) and FRAND licenses. In Insulet Corp. v. EOFlow Co., No. 2025-1807, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit completely overturned the original $452 million judgment (which had already been reduced by the District Court to $59.4 million) in favor of Insulet. In its decision of June 2, 2026, in the case of Fujifilm v. Kodak, the UPC Board of Appeal provided comprehensive clarifications regarding so-called “long-arm jurisdiction”—that is, the question of whether the UPC can also rule on national patent claims outside the UPC territory (such as in the United Kingdom). In 14 guiding principles, the judges established specific procedural rules for various categories of cases. There is no automatic UPC jurisdiction over national patent claims outside the UPC territory. The Munich Regional Court has issued an arrest warrant against the managing director of Polytech Health & Aesthetics GmbH because he is alleged to have continued to exploit the Brazilian company Silimed's patent for breast implants despite a preliminary injunction. A number of IT and automotive industry associations—which are among the most frequent users of Inter Partes Reviews (IPR) at the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office—have filed an amicus brief with the Supreme Court, urging the Court to grant Google's certiorari petition. An attorney for a Las Vegas performer has asked a California federal judge to temporarily prohibit Taylor Swift from using “The Life of a Showgirl” as a trademark while the trademark lawsuit is pending. Swift's attorney called the lawsuit baseless. And now let's hear Ken discuss creator law with Franklin! AI, Platform Law, and the Creator Economy: What Businesses Need to Know Now Franklin Graves has spent his entire career watching digital content move through systems that most people never see. He started in marketing at a major music label right out of law school, then represented individual creators on YouTube in a pro bono capacity, then moved to the platform side at Eventbrite, and today works as Senior Product Counsel at LinkedIn, where he focuses on AI, data, and the regulatory questions that come with both. His recently published law review article, Upload Complete: An Introduction to Creator Economy Law, is the first academic paper to address the creator economy as a distinct legal field. In a recent episode of the IP Fridays podcast, he spoke with host Kenneth Suzan about responsible AI development, platform regulation, and what it actually means to own your audience in a world where the rules keep changing overnight. From Content Creator to Platform Lawyer The through-line in Graves’ career is a genuine understanding of how content moves from an idea in someone’s head to an audience on a screen. That experience, he argues, is precisely what in-house counsel needs right now. Lawyers working on AI and product development cannot afford to sit at a distance from the technology they are advising on. They need to use the tools, experience them as a creator or end user would, and understand the nuances of how a product actually operates before it reaches the public. Understanding the product first is the precondition for everything else. That philosophy translates directly into how he approaches responsible AI implementation. The landscape of AI standards is crowded: NIST frameworks, the EU AI Act, sector-specific guidance, and a growing body of industry-adopted best practices. The challenge for in-house counsel is not knowing that these standards exist. It is making them actionable for the engineering and product teams they support. Abstract principles need to become concrete controls and workflows. Graves offers one practical shortcut: most companies already have open source software review processes that involve the right stakeholders, the right sign-off levels, and the right security checks. Layering the specifics of generative AI or large language models onto those existing processes is far more efficient than building something new from scratch. A Fragmented Regulatory World The geopolitical dimension of AI regulation is something Graves thinks about constantly in his role at LinkedIn. The EU AI Act, shifting US executive orders, and country-specific approaches to data privacy have created a regulatory environment that can change the rules of the game without warning. His analogy is instructive: creators have long understood what it means to build a community on a platform they do not own. An algorithm change, a policy update, or a government ban can wipe out years of audience-building overnight. Businesses deploying AI tools globally now face a structurally similar problem. The response, for creators and for platforms alike, is to build resilience rather than rely on stability that may not last. TikTok is the clearest recent example. When the platform faced the prospect of being shut down in the United States on national security grounds, it triggered a broader conversation about platform dependence that had been building for years. Creators who had invested their entire business in one platform suddenly confronted the possibility that their audience could simply disappear. The lesson is not that platforms are bad. It is that concentration of any kind, whether it is your audience, your data pipeline, or your regulatory compliance strategy, creates fragility. What Is a Creator, Legally Speaking? One of the central contributions of Graves’ law review article is definitional. The terminology matters more than it might seem. When courts and regulators talk about creators without a shared understanding of what that word means, the resulting legal analysis tends to miss the mark. Graves draws a distinction between users who post content, creators who post with the intent to build an audience and eventually monetize it, and influencers, a subset of creators who are actively running a small business through their content. The difference is intent. A parent posting family photos on Facebook is a user. Someone building a subscription community around their professional expertise is running a business, and the legal framework that applies to them should reflect that. That distinction matters practically when it comes to liability. As more creators build their own platforms, whether through custom membership sites, open source tools like Ghost, or federated social networks, they take on obligations that previously fell to large platforms: content moderation policies, privacy notices, terms of service, and compliance with data regulations across multiple jurisdictions. A creator in Tennessee running a membership platform with subscribers in Germany is operating a global business, whether they think of themselves that way or not. Protecting Children Online: A Question Without a Clean Answer The tension between age verification and privacy is one of the more difficult problems in platform law right now. Australia, several European countries, and a growing number of US states have introduced or passed minimum age requirements for social media accounts. The technical challenge is real: verifying age online requires collecting identifying information, and collecting identifying information creates privacy risk, particularly for the young people the laws are designed to protect. Who should bear the responsibility for that verification is also unresolved. Is it the platform? The app store? The mobile operating system? Graves does not pretend there is a clean answer, but he points to the mobile layer as an underexplored option. The Apple App Store and Google Play Store already have significant leverage over which apps reach users on their devices. Whether that leverage should extend to age verification is a question that deserves more attention than it currently receives. The Right of Publicity in the Age of AI Voice cloning, digital replicas, and AI-generated synthetic media have pushed the right of publicity into territory that traditional IP law was not designed to cover. Trademark law, copyright law, and existing publicity rights each capture part of the problem but none of them covers it completely. The result, as Graves describes it, is a period of experimentation: lawyers filing trademarks on vocal sounds and phrases, states updating their publicity statutes to explicitly mention artificial intelligence, and entertainment unions negotiating over who controls a performance and any AI-generated iterations of it. Tennessee’s Elvis Act is a concrete example of the legislative response: the state updated its right of publicity law to include voice and to reference AI directly. Similar efforts are underway elsewhere. The underlying challenge is calibrating protection so that it gives creators and performers meaningful control over their likeness and voice without foreclosing the development of generative AI systems that depend on broad rights to process and learn from content. Somewhere between those two interests, a workable legal framework needs to emerge. The brand deal context may be where the issue becomes most immediately practical. When a brand partners with an influencer and the campaign involves generative AI in any form, the contract needs to address control explicitly. Who has final approval over how the influencer’s likeness or voice is used in AI-generated deliverables? What happens to those assets after the campaign ends? These are not hypothetical questions. They are contract drafting problems that any brand counsel or creator attorney should be addressing today. What Comes Next Graves is cautious about predictions, but his sense of direction is clear. The regulatory environment will continue to fragment before it converges. The right of publicity will be updated, imperfectly, in more jurisdictions. Creators will continue to move toward owning more of their infrastructure. And the lawyers who do this work best will be the ones who understand the technology well enough to translate it into practical, defensible decisions for the people they advise. Full Transcript: Ken Suzan: Thank you, Rolf. Our returning guest today is Franklin Graves. Franklin is the founder and editor of Creator Economy Law, a website and newsletter that educates creator economy professionals on the intersection of law and policy with the world of creators, brands, and platforms. Franklin also published the first law review article focused on the creator economy, Upload Complete, an introduction to creator economy law. He regularly appears across news and media outlets as a commentator and contributor with a focus on educating creators and raising awareness of all legal aspects of the creator economy. Franklin is based in Nashville, Tennessee. Ken Suzan: Franklin was invited to participate as one of the creators and creator economy professionals in the first ever White House creator economy conference. Franklin works full time as a product counsel at LinkedIn Corporation. As a member of the product and data team, he focuses on emerging issues in AI and data. Franklin previously held roles on the technology law group at HCA Healthcare, the commercial legal team at Eventbrite, and the business and legal affairs team at Naxos Music Group. Welcome back Franklin to the IP Fridays podcast. Franklin Graves: Thank you so much for having me. It is exciting to be back and reflecting over the last decade since I last joined and also the paper that I wrote that dives into this in more detail. So I really appreciate it. And yes, full disclosure, I currently work for LinkedIn, which is a subsidiary of Microsoft. I’m here in my personal capacity to talk about this, the paper I wrote before joining LinkedIn and all of that. So thank you so much for having me back. Ken Suzan: Excellent. So Franklin, since your last appearance on IP Fridays in 2017, your career has evolved significantly. You are now senior product counsel at LinkedIn focusing on AI and data. How has working inside a major tech platform changed your perspective on the legal frameworks governing digital content compared to when you were viewing it purely from the creator side? Franklin Graves: I appreciate that question because when I wrote the article, I did not work for LinkedIn. And I had been coming from a history in my career where I, right out of law school, worked for a record label like we talked about almost 10 years ago. And I was on the content creation side. I’ve represented a major distributor of classical music digitally at the time. And that was my first exposure to understanding how content was taken from the initial inception stage from creators and routed through all the various digital platforms that were at the time still evolving and even arguably still today continue to evolve. The early days of YouTube Music launching and then Apple Music launching, and then going through all the phases of high-res audio and everything that came after that. So that was an interesting perspective to start my career with. And then I went to Eventbrite, which is a ticketing platform, but was also focused on elevating event creators. They kind of took on that moniker of “Hey, we are event creators that we support.” And that was arguably my first exposure to the platform side, the tech platform side of it, because Eventbrite is a platform. And so then I evolved from there in my personal capacity, in a pro bono capacity representing individual creators across the YouTube space. And that’s what we talked about a little bit back when I first came on the podcast. Franklin Graves: Over the last decade, it’s been a chance to grow my own understanding of the creator economy. The terminology “creator economy” came around. And then now on the other side of it, having written the article and all that, and now being fully in-house at LinkedIn, I truly am experiencing a social media platform. LinkedIn is of course arguably way more than just the platform itself. There are so many different avenues to it, but it is a chance for me to understand what it is like working for a company that is operating the platform that people are distributing content on. There’s a user journey to content and all of that. So it’s definitely enhanced and given me a different perspective from a major tech platform side. And part of my role at LinkedIn is really heavily focused on understanding regulation and how that from an AI and data perspective impacts the company. And so I’ve been really leveling up my game over the last year and a half that I’ve been here, understanding mostly EU regulations, but also US regulations that are still in their infancy when it comes to AI. But really when it comes to privacy and data, those are pretty well established across the board. It’s been kind of a combination of what I learned at Eventbrite, because I went to Eventbrite when GDPR was going into effect. And so that was an eyes-wide-open moment of getting in the weeds with negotiating data processing agreements, understanding data transfers and cross-border data transfers and the like. So it’s been kind of an evolution as the laws and regulations have evolved. So has my career, so has my own understanding, so have the platforms’ responses to those laws and regulations. And I’m sure that probably resonates with a lot of your listeners who have also been growing their practice and their understanding as the laws and regulations in this realm have been evolving too. Ken Suzan: Yes, indeed. Now let’s switch gears and talk about AI. You advise on AI and data daily. As platforms integrate generative AI tools into their tech stacks, what are the most critical best practices in-house counsel should be adopting right now to embed responsible AI principles into product development? Franklin Graves: So as an attorney, one of my key roles is to understand the technology. Even representing creators and working for creator platforms, that’s something I’m constantly trying to do: put myself in the shoes of being a creator. And I think I talked about this last time I was on, but I come from a background where I was working for a major label doing marketing, video editing, social media work. And I was creating content. I understood the whole life cycle from the inception point of an idea to execution and then to the final delivery and distribution of that content to an audience within a major music label. And so part of that is the same thing that I think attorneys, especially in-house, should be doing: using the tools that the product and engineering teams are either developing in-house or partnering with third parties to develop, or a combination of the two. Using them, understanding them, using them as a creator would, using them as an end user or a client or customer would. And making sure that if you understand the product and understand the nuances of how it operates, and being a part of the iterations of that internally before it fully ramps, that really gives you a chance to understand: okay, we have a lot of responsible AI principles and standards and protocols that are in existence right now, whether it’s NIST, whether it’s based on the EU AI Act or anything and everything in between. It’s understanding how to apply those and bring those into a product and an engineering environment in a way that is practical and actionable for the people that you’re supporting, the stakeholders you’re supporting. So I think one of the critical best practices is, number one, understand the product or features that you’re supporting. Franklin Graves: And then understand how you as an attorney can use your expertise and understanding of responsible AI practices, whether it’s a regulatory standard or an industry-adopted standard or a hybrid of the two, to leverage those and implement those, break those down and make them into actionable controls and processes and flows that work within your existing infrastructure. That’s a lot of high-level talk, but that’s the general idea. One concrete example we talk about frequently is with open source AI. If you’re working with a product team or an engineering team that is taking an off-the-shelf open source model and bringing that in-house, a lot of times companies have pre-existing open source processes that cover the use of open source software or code. Piggyback on that. That’s the easiest quick win for attorneys: leveraging your existing open source processes to just build on top of that the AI flavor and layering. It’s not very much that you have to do, but the underlying process of the key stakeholders that need to be involved in the review, whether it’s security, whether it’s executive sign-off if it gets to that point, even export control considerations should already be part of your existing open source software process. So layering in on those existing processes the specifics of generative AI or large language models that you’re trying to bring in is a great way to put this into practice. Ken Suzan: Now looking at the geopolitical landscape that we currently have, we have the EU AI Act setting strict standards and shifting US executive orders. How should platforms and brands prepare for this fragmented regulatory environment when deploying AI tools to a global user base? Franklin Graves: It’s a great question. It’s something that is still evolving, I think is fair to say. I would equate it, as I do in the paper that I wrote, to how creators and arguably brands don’t own the platforms that they’re building their communities on. That spawned this concept of de-platforming or going into building your own platform, a decentralized platform of sorts, and owning your community. That gives you that control and takes away the level of instability that can come for creators trying to build a business on a platform they don’t own, they don’t control when certain updates happen, when algorithms change, when tools and functionalities either become available or go away completely. So it’s very similar to what we’ve been experiencing in a regulatory environment where we have geopolitical complexities, for lack of a better term, that can overnight seemingly disrupt the way in which a platform or even a multinational brand is able to connect and reach an audience or continue to leverage the user base that they’ve built. I think TikTok is a great example of that, where it became a national security concern and suddenly it was facing an executive order that required it to be effectively disabled in the US or completely owned and operated by a US entity. All the mechanics and technicalities of whether it’s actually possible and still have a global platform with a global user base is a whole different discussion. But that’s an example of very similar considerations that are now not just a discussion point at the creator level or the individual brand level, but also in a much broader context at a platform level as well. Ken Suzan: Franklin, let’s now shift gears and talk about your article. In your recently published journal article, Upload Complete, which we will have linked in our show notes, you advocate for a shift in terminology from internet creator law, a term used during our first podcast almost a decade ago, to creator economy law. Why is this distinction important and how does it change the way legal practitioners should view the ecosystem of creators, brands, and platforms? Franklin Graves: Oh yes, this is part of the reason why I wanted to write the article: to lay this foundation of understanding. Because at the time I’d written the article, the term creator economy and creator had really not appeared but for maybe once in an actual court decision. And it was kind of focused on influencers and this concept, and it was just not getting it right. And so it was also, as you mentioned, when we first spoke I was even using the term internet creators. And I think that was something that was common at the time. The “internet” portion as a qualifier has since dropped off. And now for purposes of the creator economy, the term creators refers to individuals, it can be small businesses, which is what we’ve seen from a regulatory standpoint, how these small businesses are being impacted by regulations. But essentially creators in the article I pin in the context of intent. What is the intent behind the person or the small business that is posting content, trying to build a community and form a community in a virtual environment? And then that can even spill over into real physical world environments. And so the intent is kind of what I look at. Franklin Graves: And I have a chart in the article that has a diagram showcasing the overlap of what I refer to as “users generating content.” It’s a play on the concept of user-generated content, UGC. Users generating content is that large bucket of anyone posting on a platform of some kind. And within that large bucket, that large circle, are smaller subsets. You have creators, you have brands. Those are really the two buckets you can put people into. Otherwise it’s like your grandmother or your parents posting content on Facebook or Instagram, and those are everyday users of a platform. The distinction to get into that subcategory of being a creator more so has been analyzing the intent behind the posting. Are you posting content to build an audience, to build a community, to eventually have a chance to monetize the following that you’re bringing in or sell services or something like that? Brands are posting for that reason. Creators are maybe posting for that same reason. But even within the creator category, there’s a subcategory of influencers that are trying to sell something, that are trying to build more than just an awareness of who they are, their influence. They are trying to do brand deals, partnership deals, upsells and all that, and start an actual small business aside from just the content itself that they’re creating. So that’s kind of the distinctions that I make in the paper. And that’s why it’s important to understand and lay that foundation, that anyone can post content online, but the intent, the why behind their posting that content, really does ultimately matter, especially when you’re looking at it from a court case or from a regulatory standpoint. Ken Suzan: Now, Franklin, we’re seeing unprecedented geopolitical activity around platform ownership. For example, the US legislation targeting TikTok and Brazil’s recent temporary ban of X. How do these macro-level battles impact the day-to-day livelihood of creators? And how can they legally and operationally protect themselves? Franklin Graves: So the shift that we’re seeing, and I alluded to this earlier in our conversation, is this concept of Web 3. And that term may or may not be really popular anymore, but that’s essentially what we’re looking at: a shift into a federated, decentralized operation of a platform. So instead of one owner, one company, one entity owning and operating the platform, it’s decentralized. Anyone can start up a server, and it’s interoperable, meaning anyone can plug and play and connect to that larger network. And it creates this unified social network experience. Within each operating node of that network, there can be your own decisions around content moderation, your own decisions around the hosting providers you use, where you’re operating out of, the terms and conditions that apply to that. But the flip side is that instead of creators posting and sharing in a closed environment run and controlled by a singular entity, you’re now experiencing a peer-to-peer type operation where your experience can change based on which server, which node, which user you’re engaging with. You might have content that’s acceptable in one area but not acceptable in another, and maybe it just doesn’t even show up in that other area. Franklin Graves: But from a liability standpoint, as creators start to build their own networks and communities, even outside of a concept like the fediverse, it’s even down to creators building their own communities through online courses, subscription membership-based platforms that they run on their own website. There’s open source software out there, even something called Ghost, where you have memberships. And that is a creator or a small business in the creator economy that is now taking on the obligations that would typically fall upon a platform. They need to take into consideration terms and conditions, privacy policies, legal aspects, and regulatory considerations for running a platform, especially in a global world. So it’s a lot of liability that then shifts over to those small businesses and even brands sometimes that are doing the same thing. Whether it is something as simple or complex as content moderation or all the way up to monetizing an audience, this new world where creators can spin up and run a platform all dovetails back to the concept of creators not feeling like they have control in reaching the audience and the community that they’re building on an individual platform. And so this really became more mainstream conversation with TikTok and the issues around it potentially being shut down in the US. That was kind of the mindset shift and eyes opening for many creators, especially within the influencer subset, of realizing: we need to make sure that we have a way to reach the audience we’ve built if the individual platform that we’ve committed to over the last year or three years or so is no longer available. We need a way to continue that relationship outside of that one platform controlling it. Ken Suzan: Franklin, we have a few minutes left and a number of topics. So I’m going to switch gears and talk about a few issues. First, a major emerging topic in your paper is the evolution of protecting kids online. With state-level age-gating laws like the CAADCA and the recent FTC updates to COPPA, how should platforms navigate the significant tension between strict age verification mandates and the privacy and First Amendment rights of their users? Franklin Graves: Man, that is a whole discussion to unravel. It is a consideration that we’re seeing happen again, going back to the geopolitical nature of everything. Countries like Australia and certain countries in Europe and now even individual states in the US are trying to look at ways, and some of them have already put into place minimum age requirements before you can even sign up for an account with a social media platform. One of the things I’d just highlight quickly here is that one of the tensions is around how you verify someone’s age online and still maintain the ability to be at least pseudonymous. How do you still have a level of privacy, autonomy, and protection when it comes to having to provide something like a driver’s license or have parental consent tied and connected to an account managed by a parent in a situation where maybe it’s not appropriate or not beneficial to the child in that manner? But then maybe there are counterbalancing factors that outweigh that. All of that comes down to the technicalities of how it’s actually implemented and maintaining the sense of openness and freedom that we’ve had on the internet to date. And then the other element there is, since a lot of the internet that we think of today is more so through mobile applications, is it something that the mobile operating system providers and app store providers should be thinking about? So whether that’s the Google Play Store or the Apple App Store, where does that initial age verification need to fall? Is it at the platform level? Is it the app store or mobile device management level or something else? Yeah, there’s a lot to discuss there. And a lot of the issues we’re seeing with how the internet is changing in terms of being able to browse a website without disclosing personal information that might not have been required before is largely stemming from a focus on protecting children online. Ken Suzan: It sounds like, Franklin, we could have another episode covering lots of issues connected with that one topic alone. Franklin Graves: I would absolutely agree with that. There’s a lot going on there. And again, it’s different across the world. And so I know you all have a global listener base. And so there’s a lot of nuances to that whole discussion too, that are worth exploring. Ken Suzan: Last question for today’s episode is regarding the right of publicity. With the explosion of AI-generated synthetic media, digital replicas, and voice cloning, the right of publicity is taking center stage. What are the biggest legal risks for brands partnering with influencers right now? And how can creators protect their most valuable asset, their likeness? Franklin Graves: That’s a great question. I think we’re seeing kind of a throwing-spaghetti-against-the-wall-to-see-what-sticks approach right now by a lot of different parties, whether it’s trademark attorneys, whether it’s general entertainment attorneys or whoever. For example, we’ve seen Taylor Swift filing trademarks to protect certain sounds of her voice and phrasing that she uses. It’s a difficult area because in the realm of generative AI with deep fakes and virtual avatars, that is where it gets tricky, because traditional IP laws are just not able to fully cover that spectrum. It’s a piecemeal approach, but even then it doesn’t fully cover it. So for example, I’m based in Tennessee and a couple of years ago we had the Elvis Act that updated our right of publicity law to add voice and to explicitly reference artificial intelligence. And so that’s the kind of effort we’re probably going to continue to see: efforts to develop some framework around protecting what is essentially a privacy right, in a manner that doesn’t restrict generative AI systems from continuing to develop and operate the way they’re operating now, while layering in those protections so that in the US at least a First Amendment right doesn’t necessarily get squashed, and those traditional well-recognized efforts to not overregulate a technology in its early stages are respected. Franklin Graves: And so I think a lot of what we’re seeing is just a need to update laws. The SAG-AFTRA debate and the strikes that happened around maintaining control of your performance and any iterations of that, or building upon that by a media company that might come later, it’s all on the table right now and still being discussed, still being worked out. I think in the short run, a lot of times if it’s in a brand deal, the key question is: if you are using generative AI to enhance in some way the final deliverable for the campaign, who has control over that? Who has final say and sign-off on how that likeness or that digital replica or that person’s voice is represented? And even outside of the brand space, we’ve seen actors like James Earl Jones signing over certain aspects like their voice and allowing it to continue to be used in these manners powered by generative AI as Darth Vader. And I think I saw something that Boy George was even starting up an AI company that allows musicians, the original recording artist, to rerecord new versions of their masters so that they don’t miss out on that revenue. It’s powered by generative AI, by taking their voice now, which is significantly different than it was back in the 80s, and using generative AI to make it sound closer to the original, but all based on their current performance. So I think it’s still an evolving area. And what’s interesting too is on the platform side, we’re seeing the early stages of platforms like Google starting to acknowledge and rely on the license grant contained in their terms of service for YouTube, which grants them broad rights to use the content to run their platform. So all that to be said, it’s still early stages. I’m very interested to see where we go from here in the future, especially from a global perspective as well. Ken Suzan: Franklin, I could spend hours talking to you about this. You’re such a knowledgeable person on these topics. Maybe in a few years, will we connect again and talk further on AI and all the things that are yet to be developed? Franklin Graves: Thank you. Yeah, it doesn’t have to be another decade. Maybe we can cut it to half a decade, given the pace at which technology is going now. Ken Suzan: Sounds good, Franklin. Thanks again for being on the IP Fridays podcast.

Brock and Salk talk about all the love the LA Rams are getting after their offseason additions, and the double standard the media is putting on the Seahawks, and the Rams still complaining about the Zach Charbonnet 2-point conversion. They tell you what you Need To Know including all the info on the Mariners upcoming series in Pittsburgh, the Seahawks joint practice schedule, and more. Reigning AL Player of the week Logan Gilbert joins the show to talk about what it means to win that award, how Cal Raleigh’s return has fueled him, the Starting Pitcher’s piggyback situation, and much more. And Brock talks about JSN and Sam Darnold’s relationship, Aaron Donald’s potential return to the Rams, and more in Blue-88.

Bob and Dave have their weekly conversation with Ryan Rowland-Smith to get his thoughts on, the Mariners’ tough series loss to the Red Sox, the lineup decisions they need to make about Rob Refsnyder, and when we’ll see an end to the Piggyback pitching games, they discuss how the Seahawks are planning to use running back George Holani this season, and they break down when we should start worrying about Cal Raleigh. 

In the first hour, Dave Softy Mahler, Dick Fain and Jackson Felts react to the amazing atmosphere in Seattle last Friday for the United States soccer win over Australia and the many watch parties around the city, then discuss the Mariners’ dedication to their piggyback pitching plan and how it backfired on Friday, then have some Fun w/ Audio.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Seahawks One Series with GREGG BELL (Tacoma News Tribune/933 KJR) Devon Witherspoon is due for a big contract extension, so Gregg gives us the lowdown on that looming deal and expectations for the veteran DB. Why is he more than just interception numbers? What worry or concerns do the Seahawks have about his durability and what are his weaknesses? :30- Yes, the piggyback is still here and there are a lot of people who are still very angry about it, so it's time to implement some new rules for the new piggyback. - Bryce Miller should never be involved again. - How about a 24 or 48-hour window on the rider? - How about we establish a middle ground on communication? - If you're going to piggyback, you can stop over-protecting your bullpen! :45- What a state we are in! Dusty May left Michigan yesterday for the comfort of the NBA… he wasn't the first and he won't be the last person to leave college sports for something more comfortable at the professional level. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Brock and Salk talk about how the Mariners need Cal's game back, Breaking down the issues with the piggyback, Blue 88.

Talking about Refsnyder's performance the disastrous piggyback, Need to Know, and Around the Weekend.

Stacy and Curtis are joined by MLB.com Mariners Reporter Daniel Kramer to discuss Dom Canzone’s amazing start to the season, how Cal Raleigh has looked after his IL stint, Rob Refsnyder’s issues, and where the Mariners stand on the Piggyback Pitching starts, they give you their thoughts on the World Cup and Brandon Aiyuk’s newest slam on the 49ers in Headline Rewrites, they bring you the biggest stories around the NFL, including the latest details on Seahawks’ Training Camp, and they discuss how long the Mariners will keep the Piggyback pitching games. 

Stacy and Curtis hear what Mariners president of baseball operations Jerry Dipoto said about the decision to use the piggyback pitching plan instead of a six-man pitching rotation, how they are trying to overcome their injury issues, and what Colt Emerson has brought to the team, they answer your questions about Mike Macdonald’s coaching philosophy and one of the biggest Seahawks departures in Four Down Territory, and they look back on Seattle’s World Cup pandemonium in the Timeline. 

EVERETT FITZHUGH (Kraken Audio Network PxP) The Kraken added Mackie Samoskevich in a trade with the Panthers yesterday, so what are we getting in the young forward? The trade wasn't the only move made by the Kraken yesterday- they also signed Bobby McMann to a 6-year deal; what are the realistic expectations for McMann moving forward? Does Everett expect more moves to be made? :30- ABC's of the Mariners - M is for Minnesota- hey Byron Buxton, wanna come here and play? - N is for Naylor- the defense at 1st base looks sloppy… - O is for Odd- why is Cal Raleigh still struggling? :45- Boye Mafe left the Seahawks in free agency, while Derick Hall re-signed with the Hawks for much less. Did the Seahawks keep the right guy? Rob rang sure thinks so! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Headlines and Mariners talk. The weekend wasn't what we'd hoped for the Mariners hosting the Red Sox. Why can't the Mariners hit lefties? And why is Rob Refsnyder ever leading off? The piggyback haters got a lot of ammo on Friday night! :30- Seahawks One Series with DAN VIENS (Seahawks Forever Podcast) Dan joins the show to help us dive into the expectations for Julian Love in 2026. The veteran safety gets overlooked on this defense at times, but just how important is he? He dealt with an injury last year, is there any concern about his ability to stay healthy? It's year 3 of the Mike MacDonald defense- how will Love fit in? :45- It could be a huge day in the NBA as everyone awaits the news of a Giannis trade. In the meantime, Dusty May is leaving Michigan and headed to the NBA as the new head coach of the Dallas Mavericks. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

RYON HEALY (Mariners TV) How important is Dom Canzone to this team right now? Why can't this team hit lefties? Seriously! How much longer do you keep trying with this lineup? Cal isn't getting the results since coming off the IL, but is Ryon seeing a difference in approach since his return? :30- JASON BOTERILL (Seattle Kraken GM) INTERVIEW ATTACHED Was re-signing Bobby McMann their number one priority? What about the trade for Mackie Samoskevich? How does he see all these pieces coming together and are they looking to make any more moves? Could they be trading away any more draft picks ahead of Friday's draft? :45- We wrap up a busy Monday show with one last thing! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

We had a very busy Monday show and there was a lot to talk about! From a rough Mariners weekend to some big Kraken moves; we chatted with Dan Viens, Ryon Healy, Everett Fitzhugh and Kraken GM Jason Boterill.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Today is the first day of the Mariners new piggyback style rotation. Will the same level of success come about now that all the starters will be in a piggyback format? // Sweeping the Dial: Mike Macdonald was asked which player challenges him the most. Bryan Woo on becoming less reliant on just using his two fastballs. AJ Pierzynski is strongly against MLB’s new proposal for the draft // Adam Ray joins the show to talk about his time in Australia, what name should be given to his soon to be son, and his new show: The Adam Ray Show

Talking about the Mariners farm system and how injuries are impacting the trade deadline, Blue 88.

Former Mariners All Star Bret Boone joins Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain to discuss the new MLB proposal today that forces high school players to go to college in order to be drafted, the salary cap idea around baseball, Cal Raleigh’s return from his injury and what to expect the rest of 2026 and the Mariners going back a piggyback rotation setup.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Mayday Update is back! The Home run Derby is changing, taking away the time format and bringing in a “per swing” format. The Mariners are taking on a new piggyback plan. The list of the top five trade candidates has come out, and Joe Ryan has at least 50% chance of being traded. 

After splitting a 4 game set in Baltimore, the Mariners took the series win over the Orioles back home at T-Mobile park. The flurry of injuries continue to hamper the Mariners, how can they push through this tough time as the Red Sox come to town? Orioles Review 1:09 New Piggyback plan 16:47 Fanduel favorites 25:46 Red Sox Preview 28:48 Some links below are affiliate links Behind the scenes videos from Mariner Mojo! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfsGiwY3KWUsbGSmolnsB3Q/join ️The Mariner Mojo Podcast part of the Bleav podcast network! https://bleav.com/shows/mariner-mojo/ FanDuel: Download the FanDuel app or head to FANDUEL.com to get started! https://www.fanduel.com/ NEW MERCH STORE: https://mariner-mojo-shop.fourthwall.com/ SimplySeattle Code "MOJO10" at checkout for 10% off your order! https://www.simplyseattle.com/ BreakingT http://breakingt.com/MarinerMojo to head straight to the Mariners specific merchandise! Seat Geek Code "MarinerMojo" for $20 off https://seatgeek.onelink.me/RrnK/teamseatgeek Check out the OFFICIAL Mariner Mojo Merch! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfsGiwY3KWUsbGSmolnsB3Q/store Twitter: https://twitter.com/MojoMariner Linktree: https://linktr.ee/marinermojo Discord: https://discord.gg/Mg7W7jPRUh Business Inquiries MarinerMojoBiz@gmail.com FANDUEL DISCLAIMER: 21+ in select states. First online real money wager only. Bonus issued as nonwithdrawable free bets that expires in 14 days. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG (CO, IA, MD, MI, NJ, PA, IL, VA, WV), 1-800-NEXT-STEP or text NEXTSTEP to 53342 (AZ), 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-9-WITH-IT (IN), 1-800-522-4700 (WY, KS) or visit ksgamblinghelp.com (KS), 1-877-770-STOP (LA), 1-877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY), TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN) Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Bob and Dave are joined by Ryan Divish of The Seattle Times to get his thoughts on Cal Raleigh’s return to the Mariners, how Logan Gilbert looked in last night’s start, the impressive start to Colt Emerson’s career, and the Mariners’ new Piggyback pitching plan. 

Seattle Mariners starting pitcher Logan Gilbert joins Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain to talk about the return of Cal Raleigh to the bigs, his strikeout numbers this year and how it relates to his changing pitching philosophy, the piggyback system going back in effect for the rotation, if he has a piggyback partner and the two youngsters leading the infield.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

BRAD EVANS (Sounders/World Cup broadcast) There's more to the “Draw” story than just the result. How impressive was Team USA's performance against Paraguay last Friday? What kind of a blow will it be to the US if they're without Christian Pulisic? What is the US up against with Australia tomorrow? Why don't teams just put 5 defenders on Messi? :30- Can the Seahawks replicate their offensive game plan from yesterday and expect the same results from JSN and Cooper Kupp? We asked Mike Sando that very question yesterday and discuss it today in our one series recap. :45- Sup? We take listener questions and answer them honestly… See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

So, just how foggy was it at Shinnecock Hills this morning? USA vs Australia is tomorrow right here in Seattle and Jessamyn returned from her Aussie trip with a new accent and bird friends… who will she be cheering for? Julio's injury last night had us all a little worried, but if it really was just a spasm, we can relax, right? The piggyback is coming back and the entire starting rotation is on board, so why are people still so angry about it? :30- ANDERS HIRST joins the show with his thoughts on World Cup. Was he surprised by the USA's offensive burst in game 1 and can they do it again tomorrow? How concerned would he be if the team had to play without Pulisic tomorrow? :45- We close out the show with one last thing! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

A piggyback ride as a kid was always fun. Seeing the world from a brand new height. As an adult, it just means you are a starting pitcher for the Seattle Mariners! Hosted by "Splash", join Alex and Mathias as the LAR crew breaks down how the "Piggyback" situation in Seattle might be used going forward. Also, the Giants have some tantalizing trade pieces; the only question is about which ones are actually on the block. All of this and more on today's edition of Losses Above Replacement!

On today' Daily Puck Drop, Jason “Puck” Puckett and the Go-2-Guy Jim Moore talk the return of Cal, piggyback, injuries, World Cup, drunk Scots, a miserable high school baseball state title loss and the 12s are after Puck! “Inside Pitch” with Ryan Divish and Puck as they discuss the week that was Mariners baseball which includes the teams decision to go back to the piggyback but with a catch, Cal's return, timetable for Kade Anderson and is something wrong with the Mariners trainers?This is just the Divish LITE version.  The ull episode with Divish available for Puck's Posse members. Join today at PuckSports.com for just $5/month.  If you can't afford the price, send an email at Puck@PuckSports.com Rob Staton, SeahawksDraftBlog.com joins Puck to chat about the Seahawks offseason, Devon Witherspoon contract and Puck peppers Rob with predictions for the upcoming season and a scouting breakdown on Brendan Sorsby. “On this Day….”   From O.J. Simpson to The King, The Bear and The KidPuck wraps up with, “Hey, What the Puck!?”   You felt Cal's return (1:00) Puck (35:20) Rob Staton, SeahawksDraftBlog.com (54:38) “Inside Pitch LITE” with Ryan Divish ( 1:05:16 ) “On This Day…” (1:08:02)  “Hey, What the Puck!” 

Bump and Stacy have their weekly conversation with Jordan Shusterman of Yahoo Sports to get his thoughts on the Mariners’ plan to piggyback all of their starting pitchers and Cal Raleigh’s return to the lineup, they answer your questions about the best things in professional sports today in Four Down Territory, they hear how Brendan Sorsby’s agent is defending his client in The Timeline, and they discuss how the Mariners will fill the void left by Randy Arozarena. 

Bob and Dave are joined by Charlie Furbush in studio to get his thoughts on the Mariners returning to Piggyback pitching games, they discuss whether Kade Anderson should be in the bullpen, they break down why the Mariners ultimately keep Garver over Pereda. 

In the first hour, Dave Softy Mahler, Dick Fain and Jackson Felts react to the breaking news that the Mariners are going back to the piggyback starting rotation method, then react to the additional breaking news that every pitcher is participating in the piggyback, then react to the news of JP Crawford starting at third base, then have Fun with Audio.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Lyle and TJ react to the flurry of roster moves made before Tuesday's game (3:30). They then discuss how the Mariners are going to navigate the injury of Randy Arozarena (17:18). They close out the show talking about the Mariners new piggyback plan, and why they actually like it more than the last version (31:34). Get your Jim Jefferies tickets at: https://emeraldqueen.com/For ad-free episodes, check out our Patreon: patreon.com/marinelayerpodMerchandise, event schedule, and more: marinelayerpod.comEmail us: marinelayerpod@gmail.comCheck out Just Baseball: Click hereFollow the show on Twitter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@marinelayerpod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Find us on YouTube: Click hereFind us on TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@marinelayerpod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Find us on all Podcast Platforms: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/MarineLayerPod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow TJ on Twitter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@tjmathewson⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow Lyle on Twitter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@lyle_goldsteinSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Headlines and Seahawks One Series with MIKE SANDO (The Athletic) We dive into veteran wide receiver who is entering his 2nd year with the Seahawks. How long can he continue his NFL career and can we expect something similar to what we got from him last year? Is coaching in his future? :30- ABC's of the Mariners - D is for Dumper- Cal returned last night and not only did he deliver the game-winning hit, but he also helped Logan throw a gem. - E is for Everett- it was a short ride from Everett for Curtis Washington Jr - F is for the 5-man rotation, which we are going to talk about next! :45- It's time to get Reckless at Breakfast! There are a lot of things that have Mariners fans up in arms, let's break it down and welcome back the piggyback! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

It's the best moments from our busy Wednesday show!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Former Mariners pitcher and analyst Bill Krueger joins Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain to talk about the continued issues for Andres Munoz, how much the team needs catcher Cal Raleigh back both for his offense and defense, the starting rotation’s piggyback deal with perhaps a new duo, and what the team will do at shortstop with J.P. Crawford back.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

MLB analyst Matt Clement comes on The Fan Hotline to try and figure out what exactly the Pirates have planned for RHP Carmen Mlodzinski as he continues to pitch out of the bullpen in games with Adam Crowley and Dorin Dickerson.

The Pirates' tandem of Jared Jones and Carmen Mlodzinski did not work last night, to say the least. Joe Block and Kevin Young went off on the Pirates' decision to waste Carmen Mlodzinski in a blowout loss last night. Poni thinks it is a very bad sign if guys employed by the Pirates are avidly disagreeing with the team's decision making. Endy Rodriguez has been swinging the bat very well as of late. Donny Football Debrief – Falcons QB Michael Penix has not yet been cleared to begin practicing, which likely means Tua Tagavailoa will start for them. A bunch of WPIAL football players have been ruled ineligible for the upcoming season.

RYON HEALY (Mariners TV) The Mariners are coming off an ugly road trip, we get Ryon's thoughts on what happened and if there's anything he saw that was particularly concerning. What's next for this pitching staff? Are we going back to the Piggyback? We can't ignore what's going on with Kade Anderson… do we need a 7-man rotation? What else does he need to prove? Is he being wasted in Arkansas? What will it mean to this team to get Cal Raleigh back tonight? :30- Now Brendan Sorsby is headed to the NFL via the supplemental draft- has the damage already been done? :45- we wrap up the show with one last thing. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Seahawks One Series with BRYAN WALTERS (Seahawks/Fox 13 Seattle) Bryan joins the show for the first time ever and helps us take a look at the expectations for Rashid Shaheed heading into his first full year with the Seahawks. :30- We want our Piggyback, piggyback, piggyback… :45- We wrap up the show and the week with Booze News! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Seahawks One Series with BRYAN WALTERS (Seahawks/Fox 13 Seattle) Bryan joins the show for the first time ever and helps us take a look at the expectations for Rashid Shaheed heading into his first full year with the Seahawks. :30- We want our Piggyback, piggyback, piggyback… :45- We wrap up the show and the week with Booze News! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

It's World Cup Day and Seattle is showing out! A lot of times people use the term “choke job” far too often, but the Spurs game 4 collapse last night was absolutely a choke job. Yes, the Knicks deserve some credit, but more of the blame needs to be pointed in San Antonio's direction. Can they possibly come back after that? It's doubtful. :30- Mariners Morning After George Kirby started off great and the game was scoreless into the 6th and then it all fell apart, resulting in a 7-2 loss for the Mariners. The M's seemed determined not to waste any bullpen arms and let Kirby go 6 before bringing in Gonzalez who had just been called up and letting him finish up. :45- It's World Cup Day and while Seattle doesn't have any games in town today, the city is gearing up for the first game on Monday and there's watch parties all around town. Team USA plays Paraguay tomorrow and we have some very excited co-workers who will join us tomorrow. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Headlines and a visit from the President of the Ryan Bliss Fan Club- GREGG BELL (933 KJR/Tacoma News Tribune) Yesterday was the first day of Seahawks mandatory mini-camp, so what did Gregg see in Renton? Zach Charbonnet made an appearance – is his return looking ahead of schedule? Are DeMarcus Lawrence and Nick Emmanwori morphing into the same person? :30- ABC's of the Mariners - O is for Old Garv- we gotta stop thinking about Old Garv and recognize that New Garv is here.. Take notice. - P is for Piggyback- we want the piggyback back… there we said it. :45- We get Reckless at Breakfast with the reckless NCAA and the Sorsby saga. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

RYON HEALY (Mariners TV) It's all about “The Challenge”- thank you ABS System and thank you Jhonny Pereda! How does Healy feel about Dan Wilson's bullpen usage and all of the rules this team seems to have to abide by? Emerson got into it with Pereda on the mound… We are suddenly down two more infielders… what happens when Brendan Donovan comes back? :30- We asked for your help and YOU delivered! Sup with you? How do you want us to cover the World Cup? :45- We wrap up the show with one last thing! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

It's trade season, so let's explore some possibilities for the Mariners. Should the Mariners consider trading for Tarik Skubal? :30- ABCs of the Mariners - J is for Josh- Josh Naylor had a weird weekend… - K is for Kade- Yes, we are going to see Kade Anderson with the big team this year. - L is for the Laz's- Diaz is not good…Montes is really good! :45- We close out the Monday show with one last thing! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

It's the best moments from our Monday show with lots of baseball talk!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Mark and Tommy Baseball talk about the Pirates big bounce back win last night against Hourston, some Steelers contract stuff and more. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Ryan Rowland-Smith joins the show to talk about the Mariners current 6-game winning streak, his thoughts on the 6-man rotation vs the piggyback style rotation, what he thinks about Jhonny Pereda, how great it is having Julio hitting well early in the season, and what he is seeing from Luke Raley. // The Seahawks have lost their Assistant GM Nolan Teasley to the Vikings organization, how much of an impact does this have on the Seahawks organization? // After the weekend of great offense from the Mariners, Wyman & Bob tell us what was encouraging about seeing this team start hitting consistently. 

The Rams just traded for Myles Garrett. We break down the blockbuster deal and what it means for LA's Super Bowl window. The NBA Finals are here. We break down Spurs vs. Knicks, whether we're witnessing the birth of a new dynasty, and we're making our pick: San Antonio in 6, Wemby wins Finals MVP. Then we head to the AL West, where the Mariners have taken first place on a six-game winning streak without Cal Raleigh while a piggyback rotation experiment has Luis Castillo confronting Dan Wilson mid-game. We also get into Justin Herbert skipping two weeks of Chargers OTAs to fly to Europe for Madison Beer's concert tour. Harbaugh said he offered Herbert a ride to the airport. We're asking whether that's the right call or a red flag for a franchise still searching for its first deep playoff run. Finally, we discuss Chet Holmgren's brutal series against the Spurs, the Chet vs. Wemby debate, and what his future looks like in OKC. Subscribe so you never miss an episode.   CHAPTERS: 0:00 NBA Finals Preview: Spurs vs Knicks 9:57 Is San Antonio Building a Dynasty? 14:25 Mariners AL West Lead and Piggyback Rotation Drama 21:35 Myles Garrett Rams Trade Breakdown 27:05 Justin Herbert Skips Chargers OTAs 30:22 Chet Holmgren vs Wemby: Future in OKC 37:04 Madison Beer 37:42 Mexico Customs Issue  

On this episode, Kyle (X:@Sonny_108/BS:@Sonny108) and Taylor (X/BS:@DynastyPickups) discuss the Mariners piggyback situation, as well as a number of injuries and transactions, promotions and debuts, and this week's pickup recommendations including Luis Guanipa, Gabe Davis, Jhomnardo Reyes, and Murf Gray.Topics Discussed:Latest at Prospects Live - 1:37Mariners Rotation - 3:53News, Injuries and Transactions - 7:01Callups and Promotions - 25:33Luis Guanipa - 42:36Gabe Davis - 48:23Jhomnardo Reyes - 57:02Murf Gray - 1:04:12Recommendation Rankings - 1:09:17*Send us an email to dynastybaseballpickups@gmail.com to have your question answered on a future episode of the podcast*

Bump and Curtis are in talking with Mariners analyst Ryan Rowland-Smith about the Mariners’ needing to make some tough decisions in the piggyback situation, then in Four Down Territory the SEC needs to pump the brakes on separating from the NCAA, the Seahawks’ are taking care of business with their offseason moves, then on The Timeline the controversy surrounding the Patriots and HC Mike Vrabel continues.

The Mariners had their second piggyback game on Monday night and there is a lot of conversation to be had about it, so Brock and Salk go through it. They also discuss Julio being late to the plate on Sunday afternoon after the 5th inning defensive miscue by Randy Arozarena and wonder if it actually displayed a sign towards Julio's leadership. In Blue 88, topics include Leonard Williams, which Seahawk needs to start participating in offseason workouts and the Seahawks right guard position.