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Bump & Stacy go through some of the sound from radio row ahead of the Super Bowl where the Seahawks take on the Patriots. // Headline Rewrites: The Seattle Mariners acquired All-Star infielder Brendan Donovan from the St. Louis Cardinals. New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft was not selected for entry into this year's Pro Football Hall of Fame class. The Pro Bowl Games are tonight, I guess. // We go through the Sam Darnold discourse and how much making the Super Bowl does for him and what his performance will do to the narrative around him. //Ā Bump & Stacy go through some comments by Seth Wickersham on the upcoming sale of the Seahawks as it was orchestrated in Paul Allenās will. Seth also defended his reporting that some people thought was a conspiracy.Ā
Seahawks Draft Blogās Rob Staton joins the show to give us his prediction on the outcome of the Super Bowl, why the Seahawks are favored & how the Patriots could be overlooked, the influence the Patriots will have by blitzing Darnold, and if winning this game would make up for the last Seahawks Super Bowl. //Ā Headline Rewrites: The Seattle Mariners acquired All-Star infielder Brendan Donovan from the St. Louis Cardinals. New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft was not selected for entry into this year's Pro Football Hall of Fame class. The Pro Bowl Games are tonight, I guess. // NFL Headlines: Drake Mayeās shoulder issue is being thrown around as something that could hold him back, Mike Reiss made a comparison between Tom Brady and Drake Maye, and Matt Ryan & the Falcons are not ready to commit to Michael Penix Jr. //Ā The Mariners officially acquired Brendan Donovan from the St. Louis Cardinals in a 3-team trade. The Mariners gave up Ben Williamson, Tai Peete, and Jurrangelo Cijntje to bring Donovan to Seattle. Bump & Stacy break down this move and how the Mariners roster looks after the new addition.Ā
We dive into Bumpās film study and see what he has seen from the Patriots defense and how the Seahawks should adjust and attack them. //Ā Four Down Territory: 1st Down: What Patriots player has impressed you on film? 2nd Down: What team may have a bounce back season in 2026? 3rd Down: What has social media told you about the Patriots and the Seahawks? 4th Down: Anything stand out from Matt Harmon? // Ted Nguyen of The Athletic joins the show to talk about the Seahawks being the favored team, what people are overlooking when it comes to the Patriots, his thoughts on Sam Darnold and if he saw enough from him in the NFC Championship game. // What I Need To Know
Seahawks OC Klint Kubiak is expected to be hired as the Raiders next head coach, Bump & Stacy break down this move that will have the Seahawks looking for their next OC. // Headline Rewrites: The Arizona Cardinals have hired Rams OC Mike LaFleur as their new head coach. Former Mariner Geno Suarez signed with the Reds over the weekend on a one-year, $15 million contract. The New Orleans Saints will play in the NFL's first regular-season game in Paris during the 2026 season. //Ā The Seahawks will be up for sale and a new owner will be selected, what does this mean for the future of the team? //Ā Bump & Stacy go through the scouting report on Patriots QB Drake Maye and what the Seahawks should be preparing for in their Super Bowl matchup.Ā
Bump & Stacy give us the two things they have learned today from our interviews with Nate Tice and Aaron Schatz. //Ā The Timeline: Jerry Dipoto has eluded to the team looking to make one more move before spring training starts, Tennessee basketball head coach Rick Barnes wonders if some of his players are betting on games. //Ā The Mariners are reportedly near a deal to acquire utility player Brendan Donovan from the Cardinals. Bump & Stacy also react to some comments made by Jeff Saturday ahead of the Super Bowl. //Ā What I Need To KnowĀ
Bump and Stacy break down why the Sam Darnold deal might go down as the best free agent signing in Seahawks history, they give you their thoughts on Klint Kubiakās NFL future and this weekendās Pro Bowl Games in Headlines Rewrites, they hear what Seahawks GM John Schneider said about his teamās return to the Super Bowl, and they look at what the Patriots will try to do to beat the Seahawks.Ā
Bump and Stacy are joined by Robert Mays of The Athletic Football Show to get his thoughts on why he has faith in the Seahawks offense and their impressive defense depth, they answer your questions about the Patriots offense and Quandre Diggs in Four Down Territory, they hear Troy Aikmanās theory about Bill Belichickās NFL Hall of Fame snub in The Timeline, and they look back on the most important play of the Seahawks season.Ā
Bump and Stacy are joined by Jamie Erdahl of the NFL Network to get her thoughts on Sam Darnoldās emergence as an elite quarterback and what she expects to see from the Patriots in the Super Bowl, they hear what Seahawks head coach Mike Macdonald said about how the team is preparing for Super Bowl LX in his Friday press conference, they give you their thoughts on Klint Kubiakās NFL future and this weekendās Pro Bowl Games in Headlines Rewrites, and they bring you the biggest stories around the NFL, including the fallout from Sam Darnoldās exit from Minnesota and success in Seattle. Ā
Bump and Stacy are joined by Mike Vorel of The Seattle Times to discuss what heās seen from Sam Darnold and Jaxon Smith-Njigbaās breakout season and what he expects to see from the Seahawks and Patriots in Super Bowl LX, they answer your questions about the Patriots offense and Quandre Diggs in Four Down Territory, Bump and Curtis face off in a trivia showdown about the NFLās most ignored event of the season in PRO BOWL PRO BOWL PRO BOWL, and they wrap up the week by telling you what you need to know!Ā
Bump, Stacy, and Dave Wyman are joined by Seahawks Linebacker Boye Mafe to get his thoughts on their NFC Championship win and his excitement to face the Patriots in Super Bowl LX, they dive into the success of the special teams unit with linebacker Patrick OāConnell, and they get into the trenches with Ray Roberts.Ā
Bump and Stacy are joined by the voice of the Seahawks Steve Raible to look back on the NFC Championship win over the Rams, they hear what Seahawks GM John Schneider said about the success of the team in his press conference, they get the inside look at the Seahawks Super Bowl LX opponent from The Boston Globeās Patriots reporter Ben Volin, and they wrap up the show with Seahawks reporter John Boyle.Ā
Bump and Stacy break down whether the Seahawks defense got lucky in their NFC Championship win over the Rams, they give you their thoughts on Klint Kubiakās future in the NFL and Patriots QB Drake Mayeās injury status in Headlines Rewrites, they ask if Mike Macdonald will be considered one of the best head coaching hires in the last five years if they win Super Bowl LX, and they hop aboard the Hype Train!Ā
Bump and Stacy are joined by Seahawks Legend Cliff Avril to get his thoughts on how the Seahawks stack up against the Patriots and his memories of playing in the Super Bowl, they answer your questions about the Seahawks defense and the X Factors of the game in Four Down Territory, they bring you the latest on the Mariners 2026 TV situation and Bill Belichickās NFL Hall of Fame snub in the Timeline, and they tell you what you need to know! Ā
Hey everyone, welcome to another episode of The Board Boys Podcast!Ā On this episode we delve deep, perhaps too deep, and awaken something great in Covenant from Devir Games.Ā Also in this episode we talk about dwarf beard criteria and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles personality test traits.Ā Which turtle are you?Ā We also revisit our favorite games of 2025 and of our main reviews of the past year.Ā We also look at a few boardgame superlatives!Ā Until next time, we hope you like boardgames! 0:00 - Intro 4:10 - Shred of Redemption 7:40 - Escape Plan 10:55 - Pandoras Legacy 14:55 - Above and Below Haunted 16:50 - Monopoly + Expansions with Beau 22:00 - Covenant Introduction 25:05 - Covenant Review 57:00 - 2025 Top Games 1:12:15 - Bump or Dump - Resafa 1:15:43 - Outro
Bump and Stacy break down what makes the 2025 Seahawks different from the teams of playoffs past, they give you their thoughts on Bill Belichickās NFL Hall of Fame snub and the Browns new head coach in Headlines Rewrites, they hear what Tom Brady had to say about Klint Kubiakās offensive system, Sam Darnoldās evolution as a quarterback, and how the Seahawks stack up against the Patriots in Super Bowl LX, and Bump rants about winter clothing, ticket request, and annoying 49ers fans in Get Off My Lawn!
Bump and Stacy are joined by Bryan Walters to discuss his expectations for the Seahawks Super Bowl LX matchup against the Patriots and his experience playing in the Super Bowl, they answer your questions about what the Seahawks defense needs to do to shut down Patriots QB Drake Maye in Four Down Territory, they hear how Brock Huardās commitment to UW influenced Tom Bradyās college decision in The Timeline, and they look at the dangers of the Patriots defense.Ā
Bump and Stacy break down how Seahawks GM John Schneider built the Seahawks back up into a Super Bowl bound team, they give you their thoughts on Bill Belichickās NFL Hall of Fame snub and the Browns new head coach in Headlines Rewrites, they bring you the biggest stories around the NFL, including Adam Schefterās cryptic tease about a big move for the Eagles, and they hear what Daniel Jeremiah said about what the other NFL teams could learn from the Seahawks.Ā
Bump and Stacy are joined by Robert Turbin to get his thoughts on when he started believing in Sam Darnold as the Seahawks Quarterback, his expectations for their Super Bowl LX matchup against the Patriots, and his experience playing in Super Bowl XLVIII, they answer your questions about what the Seahawks defense needs to do to shut down Patriots QB Drake Maye in Four Down Territory, they break down why the Seahawks are favored in Super Bowl LX, and they wrap up the show by telling you what you need to know!Ā
Send us a textThe first days of feeding a newborn can feel like a test you didn't study for: alarms go off every two hours, pumps take over your counter, and every ounce feels like a verdict. We open up about low milk supply, the pull to ākeep trying,ā and the quiet relief that comes from choosing what actually works for your baby and your life. No shaming, no perfect-parent scriptājust honest stories and practical paths forward.We dig into the real costs of chasing a plan that doesn't fit: hours spent researching pumps and flanges, returning to shift work with a cooler bag in hand, and the mental math of leaving tables to pump in cramped back offices. There's room here for the science and the context. Breast milk has well-documented benefits, yes, and there are safe, tested alternatives when your body says not today. We talk donor milk banks, how formula has evolved, and why cow's milk shouldn't replace breast milk or formula before age one. Along the way we unpack the long, messy history of feeding trends and remind ourselves that pressure often hides behind the word āsupport.āThe heart of the conversation is a mindset shift: do the best you can with the resources you have right now and let that be perfect. That means asking your pediatrician for alternatives if advice doesn't fit your reality. It means measuring success by a fed baby, a calmer home, and a parent who still feels like a person. You're not required to carry a story about what would have happened 200 years ago. You are allowed to choose the option that keeps your family steady today.If this resonates, follow the show, share it with a friend who needs a kinder take on newborn feeding, and leave a quick review to help more parents find us. Your stories help others breathe easierāwhat choice brought you peace? Coaching offerKelly Hof: Labor Nurse + Birth CoachBasically, I'm your birth bestie! With me as your coach, you will tell fear to take a hike!Support the showConnect with Kelly at kellyhof.com Join the Bump & Beyond Online Community!https://www.facebook.com/groups/bumpnbeyondGrab The Book of Hormones on Amazon!Medical Disclaimer:This podcast is intended as a safe space for women to share their birth experiences. It is not intended to provide medical advice. Each woman's medical course of action is individual and may not appropriately transfer to another similar situation. Please speak to your medical provider before making any medical decisions. Additionally, it is important to keep in mind that evidence based practice evolves as our knowledge of science improves. To the best of my ability I will attempt to present the most current ACOG and AWHONN recommendations at the time the podcast is recorded, but that may not necessarily reflect the best practices at the time the podcast is heard. Additionally, guests sharing their stories have the right to autonomy in their medical decisions, and may share their choice to go against current practice recommendations. I intend to hold space for people to share their decisions. I will attempt to share the current recommendations so that my audience is informed, but it is up to each individual to choose what is best for them.
Bump and Stacy have their weekly conversation with Rob Staton to get his thoughts on the Seahawks NFC Championship win over the Rams and they upcoming trip to face the Patriots in Super Bowl LX, they give you their thoughts on Mariners legend Rick Rizzsā retirement and the injury status of Patriots QB Drake Maye in Headlines Rewrites, they bring you the biggest stories around the NFL, including the latest hirings on the coaching carousel, and they break down the implications of the Seahawks winning the Super Bowl.Ā
Bump and Stacy try to answer some of the questions surrounding the Super Bowl bound Seahawks, they give you their thoughts on Mariners legend Rick Rizzsā retirement and the injury status of Patriots QB Drake Maye in Headlines Rewrites, they dive into the some of the incredible defensive stats about the Seahawks nine game win streak, and they break down what the Seahawks offense still needs to prove.Ā
Bump and Stacy are joined by Bob Condotta of The Seattle Times to get his thoughts on the Seahawks NFC Championship win over the Rams, how they are preparing for the Patriots in Super Bowl LX, and the latest on their injury situation, they answer your questions about how Mike Macdaonld coached his team to the Super Bowl and Cooper Kuppās importance to the offense in Four Down Territory, they celebrate Rick Rizzsā legendary 41 year career as the voice of the Mariners in the Timeline, and they discuss some of the rumors about an altercation between the Seahawks and Rams coaching staffs.Ā
Bump and Stacy break down whether Sam Darnold will be the Seahawks Quarterback of the future, they answer your questions about how Mike Macdaonld coached his team to the Super Bowl and Cooper Kuppās importance to the offense in Four Down Territory, they hop aboard the Hype Train, and they wrap up the show by telling you what you need to know!Ā
Thump & Bump was one of the most obscure duos of NBA basketball. It was a short lived era for the Philadelphia 76ers featuring Charles Barkley and Rick Mahorn. They never came close to a title, but they were fun to watch.CREDITSRick Loayza: Head researcher, writer, and voiceJacob Loayza: Editor, producer, and publisher MUSIC"Rap Beat" by MaverickMyers"Horizons" by Roa SPORTS HISTORY NETWORKsportshistorynetwork.comsportshistorynetwork.com/podcasts/basketball-history-101/ FACEBOOKm.facebook.com/Basketball-History-101-103801581493027/ BUSINESS CONTACTbballhistory101@gmail.com
Bump and Stacy recap last nightās NFC Championship game and highlight the key plays that led the Seahawks to victory. Bump talks about Mr. Stay Ready, the statement made by Sam Darnold, and more in Four Down Territory. They discuss potential uniform matchups for the Superbowl, Dabo Swinney complaining about the CFB transfer portal, and more in The Timeline. And they call out the national media for their discredit and disbelief in the Seahawks in Hot Takedown.
The Seahawks are headed to Super Bowl LX! Bump and Stacy react to the Hawks thrilling win over the Rams in the NFC Championship game and highlight Sam Darnold meeting the moment once again. They talk about the Patriots making the Super Bowl, the Steelers new head coach, and more in Headline Rewrites. Bump breaks down Klint Kubiakās Boldest play-calls from last nightās game. And they react to some of the best quotes from players postgame.
Bump and Stacy highlight what caught their eye in last night's NFC Championship game. They talk about the Patriots making the Super Bowl, the Steelers new head coach, and more in Headline Rewrites. They go around the NFL and talk about the leagueās top headlines from Championship weekend. And they talk about how the Sam Darnold gamble paid off for the Seahawks.
The 12ās call in to give out game balls after last nightās NFC Championship game. Bump and Stacy react to todayās Mike Macdonald show. And they tell you What You Need To Know.
No matter how much you explain or how hard you try, there will be some people in your circle that either CANāT or WONāT get it. In this weekās episode, we break down what to consider when that happens and what smart women do in response. Thereās no reason to be mad or sad about [ā¦] The post EP361: Broken Bump Squad? What Happens When Those Around You CANāT or Wonāt Get It appeared first on Rosanne Austin.
Send us a textA healthy baby and a healthy mom can still leave a complicated story behind. We open the door to a birth that didn't follow the plan: an epidural that didn't work, Pitocin contractions that crashed like waves, and a mind trying to keep pace with a body doing the unimaginable. What sounded like chaos turns out to be wisdomāinstinctive movement that helped a baby rotate and descend, progress made in spite of pain, and a partner steadying the room when words ran out.Together we examine where control slipped and why that matters. We talk plainly about augmentation, how to assess whether an epidural is effective, and when dialing back Pitocin should be on the table. We explore the emotional fallout of early momentsājealousy when a partner holds the baby first, the sting of being told rather than asked, the reality of stitches and exhaustion. Along the way, we track how hospital culture is changing, from the golden hour of skin-to-skin to more thoughtful language that invites consent and restores agency.This isn't a tidy highlight reel. It's a reframed narrative that honors labor as both physical work and emotional landscape. If your birth story still makes your throat tighten, you're not brokenāyou're human. Come hear how naming the moment things went sideways can loosen the knot, how instinct deserves credit, and how small shifts in communication can transform the way we remember meeting our children. If this conversation helps you see your own story with kinder eyes, share it with a friend, hit follow, and leave a quick review to help more parents find their footing.Listen to the full episode where Erin Hall shares her birth stories here: https://www.thebirthjourneyspodcast.com/hurricanes-epidurals-and-holding-on-with-erin-hall/ Coaching offerKelly Hof: Labor Nurse + Birth CoachBasically, I'm your birth bestie! With me as your coach, you will tell fear to take a hike!Support the showConnect with Kelly at kellyhof.com Join the Bump & Beyond Online Community!https://www.facebook.com/groups/bumpnbeyondGrab The Book of Hormones on Amazon!Medical Disclaimer:This podcast is intended as a safe space for women to share their birth experiences. It is not intended to provide medical advice. Each woman's medical course of action is individual and may not appropriately transfer to another similar situation. Please speak to your medical provider before making any medical decisions. Additionally, it is important to keep in mind that evidence based practice evolves as our knowledge of science improves. To the best of my ability I will attempt to present the most current ACOG and AWHONN recommendations at the time the podcast is recorded, but that may not necessarily reflect the best practices at the time the podcast is heard. Additionally, guests sharing their stories have the right to autonomy in their medical decisions, and may share their choice to go against current practice recommendations. I intend to hold space for people to share their decisions. I will attempt to share the current recommendations so that my audience is informed, but it is up to each individual to choose what is best for them.
Bump and Stacy break down what they are most confident and most nervous about going into the Seahawks NFC Championship game against the Rams, they give you their thoughts on the AFC Championship Game and new Ravens head coach Jesse Minter in Headlines Rewrites, they look at how Mike Macdonald has managed not to lose to the same team twice in the same season, and they deliver their wildest predictions for this weekendās game in Bold Take Friday!
Bump and Stacy break down how historic this Seahawks team could be if they can win the NFC Championship and the Super Bowl, they answer your questions about how the Seahawks defense can shut down Matthew Stafford and their expectations for Rashid Shaheed in Four Down Territory, they hear about one of the surprising candidates in Billsā head coaching search in The Timeline, and they discuss who will be the most important player for the Seahawks on Sunday.Ā
Bump and Stacy open the phone lines to hear who you think the most important player for the Seahawks will be in the NFC Championship game against the Rams, they bring you the latest on RB George Holani and TE Elijah Arroyoās injury status, they look at some the biggest stories around the NFL, including what Patriots QB Drake Maye said about preparing to play in the AFC Championship in Denver, and they dive into some important Seahawks statistics for Sunday.Ā
Bump and Stacy are joined by Ted Nguyen of The Athletic to get his thoughts on who he thinks has the edge in the NFC Championship game, they hear what Mike Macdonald said about how his team is preparing to face the Rams for the third time this season in his press conference, they answer your questions about how the Seahawks defense can shut down Matthew Stafford and their expectations for Rashid Shaheed in Four Down Territory, and Bump and Curtis face off in a trivia showdown about the Rams.Ā
Bump, Stacy, and Dave Wyman are joined by the voice of the Seahawks Steve Raible to look back on the Divisional win over the 49ers, they get into the trenches with Ray Roberts, they get the inside look at the Seahawks NFC Championship Game opponent from ESPN Rams Reporter Sarah Barshop, and they wrap up the show with Seahawks reporter John Boyle.
Bump, Stacy, and Dave Wyman are joined by Seahawks Safety Coby Bryant live at the VMAC to get his thoughts on how the defense is preparing to face the Rams in this weekendās NFC Championship game, they look back on the evolution of the Seahawks offense this season with Wide Receiver Jake Bobo, and they hear what head coach Mike Macdonald had to say about his teamās current injury situation in his press conference.Ā
Bump and Stacy are joined by FTN Fantasyās Aaron Schatz to get his thoughts on how the Seahawks can overcome Zach Charbonnetās injury, how the Seahawks defense can pressure the Rams offense, and who heās picking in the NFC Championship game, they answer your questions about Jaxon Smith-Njigbaās game and how the Seahawks defense can pressure Matthew Stafford in Four Down Territory, they hear what 49ers GM John Lynch and HC Kyle Shanahan said about the electrical substation conspiracy and the Brandon Aiyuk drama in the Timeline, and they tell you what you need to know!Ā
Bump and Stacy break down which Seahawks and Rams have the most to gain and the most to lose on Sunday, they give you their thoughts on John Schneiderās NFL Executive of the Year award and the latest on George Holaniās injury status in Headline Rewrites, they break down the Seahawksā keys to winning the NFC Championship game, and they hop aboard the Hype Train!Ā
Bump and Stacy hear what Sam Darnold said about how he is preparing to face the Rams in this weekendās NFC Championship game and how his oblique injury in his progressing in his Wednesday press conference, they answer your questions about the NFL Coaching Carousel and the Seahawks defense in Four Down Territory, they discuss what the Seahawks defense needs to do to shut down the Rams offense, and they wrap up the show by telling you what you need to know!Ā
Bump and Stacy break down why the Seahawks are an easier team to believe in than the Rams heading into this weekendās NFC Championship game, they give you their thoughts on Mariners legend Felix Hernandezās MLB Hall of Fame vote totals and the latest on the NFL Coaching Carousel in Headlines Rewrites, they look at how Mike Macdonald is doing what Pete Carroll could no longer do, and Bump rants about the Bills firing their head coach, plagiarism, and the death of chivalry in Get Off My Lawn!
Bump and Stacy are joined by NFL Analyst Trey Wingo to get his thoughts on why he favors the Seahawks to win this weekendās NFC Championship game and how Mike Macdonald has been able to turn his team around so quickly, they answer your questions about the NFL Coaching Carousel and the Seahawks defense in Four Down Territory, they hear what the Bills owner and President said about their playoff collapse and firing head coach Sean McDermott in their end of season press conference in the Timeline, and they break down how the Seahawks and Rams have changed since their first meeting.Ā
Bump and Stacy hear what Mike Macdonald said about how his team is preparing to face the Rams in this weekendās NFC Championship game, the latest on Zach Charbonnetās injury, and how Sam Darnold has been progressing this week in his Wednesday press conference, they bring you the biggest stories around the NFL, including Bill Simmonsā apology for saying the Seahawks have never won a Super Bowl, they look back on how Mike Macdonald started his first team meeting. Ā
The black spot? Never heard of it. Come on, let's go for a jaunty little boat-based adventure. The Flying Dutchman meets a relative. Master Brickithon gets very close with his protĆ©gĆ©. Nessie discusses her cartoonish wealth. Pilfer's piratical past promptly perturbs. ⢠⢠⢠Patreon: patreon.com/improvtabletop Twitter / Instagram / Facebook / TikTok: @ImprovTabletop Email: ImprovTabletop@gmail.com Donations: ko-fi.com/improvtabletop ⢠⢠⢠Audio Credits The theme song for The Tension Builders is "Melodic Marauders Scared Stupid" by Ned Wilcock. The following songs also by Ned Wilcock. āFuguenchillenā āFuguenflautenā Music: The Snow Queen by Kevin MacLeod Free download: https://filmmusic.io/song/4511-the-snow-queen Licensed under CC BY 4.0: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license ⢠⢠⢠This actual play episode uses the Bump in the Dark RPG rules by Jex Thomas and Last Pine Press. This is a fanmade work of parody. Improv Tabletop is not affiliated with the LEGO brand or its owner The LEGO Group.
Bump and Stacy break down how Mike Macdoanld was able to craft the Seahawksā amazing turnaround, they give you their thoughts on Robert Saleh being named as the Titans new head coach and the Steelersā coaching vacancy in Headline Rewrites, they discuss what Indianaās College Football National Championship win means for the future of college football, and they look at why the Seahawks conference championship game against the Rams could be historic.Ā
Bump and Stacy are joined by ESPNās Brady Henderson to get his thoughts on how the Seahawks are preparing for the Rams in the NFC Championship game, how Sam Darnold performed against the 49ers, and the impact of Zach Charbonnetās injury, they answer your questions about how Jaxon Smith-Njigba stacks up against Puka Nacua and the Rams defense in Four Down Territory, they hear Bill Simmons forget that the Seahawks won a Super Bowl in the Timeline, and they break down whether Kenneth Walker III can handle the workload.Ā
Bump and Stacy have their weekly conversation with Rob Staton to get his thoughts on the Seahawks dominant Divisional win over the 49ers and how they stack up against the Rams in the NFC Championship game, they give you their thoughts on Robert Saleh being named as the Titans new head coach and Indiana winning the College Football National Championship in Headline Rewrites, they bring you the biggest stories around the NFL, including John Harbaughās first comments as head coach of the New York Giants, and they hear what Daniel Jeremiah said about the Seahawks defensive line.Ā
Bump and Stacy break down what the Seahawks need to do to beat the Rams in the NFC Championship this weekend, they hear why one NFL expert thinks Sam Darnold hasnāt silenced the doubters yet, they answer your questions about how Jaxon Smith-Njigba stacks up against Puka Nacua and the Rams defense in Four Down Territory, they hop aboard the Hype Train, and they wrap up the show by telling you what you need to know!
In this powerful and wide-ranging episode of Gangland Wire, host Gary Jenkins sits down with Ken Behr, author of One Step Over the Line: Confessions of a Marijuana Mercenary. Behr tells his astonishing life storyāfrom teenage marijuana dealer in South Florida, to high-level drug runner and smuggler, to DEA cooperating source working major international cases. Along the way, he offers rare, first-hand insight into how large-scale drug operations actually worked during the height of the War on Drugsāand why that war, in his view, has largely failed. From Smuggler to Source Behr describes growing up during the explosion of the drug trade in South Florida during the 1970s and 1980s, where smuggling marijuana and cocaine became almost commonplace. He explains how he moved from street-level dealing into large-scale logisticsāoff-loading planes, running covert runways in the Everglades, moving thousands of pounds of marijuana, and participating in international smuggling operations involving Canada, Jamaica, Colombia, and the Bahamas. After multiple arrestsāincluding a serious RICO case that threatened him with decades in prisonāBehr made the life-altering decision to cooperate with the DEA. What followed was a tense and dangerous double life as an undercover operative, helping law enforcement dismantle major trafficking networks while living under constant pressure and fear of exposure. Inside the Mechanics of the Drug Trade This episode goes deep into the nuts and bolts of organized drug trafficking, including: How clandestine runways were built and dismantled in minutes How aircraft were guided into unlit landing zones How smuggling crews were paid and organized Why most drug operations ultimately collapse from inside The role of asset seizures in federal drug enforcement Hit me up on Venmo for a cup of coffee or a shot and a beer @ganglandwire Click here to ābuy me a cup of coffeeā Subscribe to the website for weekly notifications about updates and other Mob information. To go to the store or make a donation or rent Ballot Theft: Burglary, Murder, Coverup, click here To rent āBrothers against Brothersā or āGangland Wire,ā the documentaries click here.Ā To purchase one of my books, click here. Transcript [00:00:00] well, hey, all your wire taps. Itās good to be back here in studio of Gangland Wire. I have a special guest today. He has a book called, uh, title is One Step Over the Line and, and he went several steps over the line, I think in his life. Ken Bearer, welcome Ken. Thanks for having me. Thanks for having me. Now, Ken, Ken is a, was a marijuana smuggler at one time and, and ended up working with the DEA, so he went from one side over to my side and, and I always like to talk to you guys that that helped us in law enforcement and I, thereās a lot of guys that donāt like that out there, but I like you guys you were a huge help to us in law enforcement and ended up doing the right thing after you made a lot of money. So tell us about the money. We were just starting to talk about the money. Tell us about the money, all those millions and millions of dollars that you drug smuggler makes. What happens? Well, I, you know, like I said, um, Jimmy Buffettās song a pirate looks at 40, basically, he says, I made enough money to to buy Miami and pissed it away all so fast, never meant to last. And, and thatās what happens. I do know a few people that have [00:01:00] put away money. One of my friends that we did a lot of money together, a lot of drug dealing and a lot of moving some product, and heās put the money away. Got in bed with some other guy that was, you know, legal, bought a bunch of warehouses, and now he lives a great life, living off the money he put away. Yeah. If the rents and stuff, he, he got into real estate. Other guys have got into real estate and they got out and they ended up doing okay. ācause now theyāre drawing all those rents. Thatās a good way to money. Exactly what he did. Uh, my favorite, I was telling you a favorite story of mine was the guy that was a small time dealer used to hang out at the beach. And, uh, we en he ended up saving $80,000, which was a lot of money back then. Yeah. And then put it all, went to school to be a culinary chef and then got a job at the Marriott as a culinary chef and a chef. So he, you know, he really took the money, made a little bit of money, didnāt make a lot Yeah. But made enough to go to school and do something with his life. Thatās so, um, thatās a great one. Thatās a good one [00:02:00] there. Thatās real. Yeah. But he wasnāt a big time guy. Yeah. You know what, what happens is you might make a big lick. You know, I, I never made million dollar moves. I have lots of friends that did. I always said I didnāt want to be a smuggler. ācause I was making a steady living, being a drug runner. If you brought in 40, 50,000 pounds of weed, you would come to me and then I would move it across the country and sell it in different, along with other guys like me. Having said that, so I say Iām a guy that never wanted to do a smuggling trip. Iāve done 12 of them. Yeah. Even though, you know, and you know, if youāve been in the DEA side twelveās a lot for somebody usually. Yeah. Thatās a lot. They donāt make, thereās no longevity. Two or three trips. No. You know, I did it for 20 years. Yeah. And then finally I got busted one time in Massachusetts in 1988. We had 40,000 pounds stuck up in Canada. So a friend of mine comes to me, another friend had the 40,000 pounds up there. He couldnāt sell it. He goes, Hey, you wanna help me smuggle [00:03:00] this back into America? Which, you know, is going the wrong direction. The farther north it goes, the more money itās worth. I wouldāve taken it to Greenland for Christās sakes. Yeah. But, we smuggled it back in. What we did this time was obviously they, they brought a freighter or a big ship to bring the 40,000 pounds into Canada. Mm-hmm. He added, stuffed in a fish a fish packing plant in a freezer somewhere up there. And so we used the sea plane and we flew from a lake in Canada to a lake in Maine where the plane would pull up, Iād unload. Then stash it. And we really did like to get 1400 pounds. We had to go through like six or seven trips. ācause the plane would only hold 200 and something pounds. Yeah. And a sea plane canāt land at night. It has to land during the day. Yeah. You canāt land a plane in the middle of a lake in the night, I guess yourself. Yeah. I see. Uh, and so we got, I got busted moving that load to another market and that cost, uh, [00:04:00] cost me about $80,000 in two years of fighting in court to get out of that. Yeah. Uh, but I did beat the case for illegal search and seizure. So one for the good guys. It wasnāt for the good guys. Well the constitution, he pulled me over looking for fireworks and, ācause it was 4th of July and, yeah. The name of that chapter in the book is why I never work on a holiday. So you donāt wanna spend your holiday in jail ācause thereās no, you canāt on your birthday. So another, the second time I got busted was in 92. So just a couple years later after, basically I was in the system for two years with the loss, you know, fighting it and that, that was for Rico. I was looking at 25 years. But, uh, but like a normal smuggling trip. Iāll tell you one, we did, I brought, I actually did my first smuggling trip. I was on the run in Jamaica from a, a case that I got named in and I was like 19 living down in Jamaica to cool out. And then my buddies came down. So we ended up bringing out 600 pounds. So that was my first tr I was about 19 or [00:05:00] 20 years old when I did my first trip. I brought out 600 pounds outta Jamaica. A friend of mine had a little Navajo and we flew it out with that, but. Iāll give you an example of a smuggling trip. So a friend of mine came to me and he wanted to load 300 kilos of Coke in Columbia and bring it into America. And he wanted to know if I knew anybody that could load him 300 kilos. So I did. I introduced him to a friend of mine that Ronnie Vest. Heās the only person youāll appreciate this. Remember how he kept wanting to extradite all the, the guys from Columbia when we got busted, indict him? Yes. And of course, Escobarās living in his own jail with his own exit. Yeah. You know, and yeah. So the Columbian government says, well, we want somebody, why donāt you extradite somebody to America, to Columbia? So Ronnie Vest had gotten caught bringing a load of weed outta Columbia. You know, they sent āem back to America. So that colo, the Americans go, Iāll tell you what you want. Somebody. And Ronnie Vests got the first good friend of mine, first American to be [00:06:00] extradited to Columbia to serve time. So he did a couple years in the Columbian prison. And so heās the one that had the cocaine connection now. ācause he spent time in Columbia. Yeah. And you know, so we brought in 300 kilos of Coke. He actually, I didnāt load it. He got another load from somebody else. But, so in the middle of the night, you set up on a road to nowhere in the Everglades, thereās so many Floridas flat, youāve got all these desolate areas. We go out there with four or five guys. We take, I have some of āem here somewhere. Callum glow sticks. You know the, the, the glow sticks you break, uh, yeah. And some flashing lights throw āem out there. Yeah. And we set up a, yeah, the pilot came in and we all laid in the woods waiting for the plane to come in. And as soon as the pilot clicks. The mic four times. Itās, we all click our mics four times and then we run out. He said to his copilot, he says, look, I mean, we lit up this road from the sky. He goes, it looks like MIA [00:07:00] behind the international airport. But it happens like that within a couple, like a minute, weāll light that whole thing up. Me and one other guy run down the runway. Itās a lot, itās a long run, believe me. We put out the lights, we gotta put out the center lights and then the marker lights, because you gotta have the center of the runway where the planeās gonna land and the edge is where it canāt, right? Yeah. He pulls up, bring up a couple cars, Iām driving one of them, load the kilos in. And then we have to refuel the plane because you donāt, you know, you want to have enough fuel to get back to an FBO to your landing airport or real airport. Yeah. Not the one we made in the Everglades. Yeah. And then the trick is the carās gotta get out of there. Yeah, before the plane takes off. ācause when that plane takes off, you know you got a twin engine plane landing is quiet, taking off at full throttleās gonna wake up the whole neighborhood. So once we got out of there, then they went ahead and got the plane off. And then the remaining guys, they gotta clean up the mess. We want to use this again. So we [00:08:00] wanna clean up all the wires, the radios. Mm-hmm. Pick up the fuel tanks, pick up the runway lights, and their job is to clean that off and all thatās gonna take place before the police even get down the main road. Right? Mm-hmm. Thatās gonna all take place in less than 10 minutes. Wow. I mean, the offload takes, the offload takes, you can offload about a thousand pounds, which Iāve done in three minutes. Wow. But, and then refueling the plane, getting everything else cleaned up. Takes longer. Yeah. Interesting. So how many guys would, would be on that operation and how do you pay that? How do you decide who gets paid what? How much? Okay. So get it up front or, I always curious about the details, how that stuff, I donāt think I got paid enough. And Iāll be honest, it was a hell of a chance. I got 20 grand looking at 15 years if you get caught. Yeah. But I did it for the excitement. 20 grand wasnāt that much. I had my own gig making more money than that Uhhuh, you know, but I was also racing cars. I was, thereās a [00:09:00] picture of one of my race cars. Oh cool. So that costs about six, 7,000 a weekend. Yeah. And remember Iām talking about 1980s dollars. Yeah. Thatās 20,000 a weekend. A weekend, yes. Yeah. And that 20,000 for a nightās work in todayās world would be 60. Yeah. Three. And Iām talking about 1985 versus, that was 40 years ago. Yeah. Um. But itās a lot of fun and, uh, and, but it, you kind of say to yourself, what was that one step over the line? Thatās why I wrote the book. I remember as a kid thinking in my twenties, man, Iāve taken one step over the line. So the full name of the book is One Step Over the Line Con Confessions of a Marijuana Mercenary. Thatās me actually working for the DEA. That picture was at the time when I was working for the DEA, so the second time I got busted in 1992 was actually for the smallest amount of weed that I ever got, ever really had. It was like 80, a hundred pounds. But unfortunately it was for Rico. I didnāt know at the [00:10:00] time, but when they arrested me, I thought, oh, they only caught me with a hundred pounds. But I got charged with Rico. So I was looking at 25 years. What, how, what? Did they have some other, it must have had some other offenses that they could tie to and maybe guns and stuff or something that get that gun. No, we never used guns ever. Just other, other smuggling operations. Yeah, yeah. Me, me and my high school friend, he had moved to Ohio in 77 or 78, so he had called me one time, he was working at the Ford plant and he goes, Hey, I think I could sell some weed up here. All right. I said, come on down, Iāll give you a couple pounds. So he drives down from Ohio on his weekend off, all the way from Ohio. I gave him two pounds. He drove home, calls me back. He goes, I sold it. So I go, all right. He goes, Iām gonna get some more. So at that time, I was working for one of the largest marijuana smugglers in US History. His name was Donny Steinberg. I was just a kid, you know, like my job, part of my [00:11:00] job was to, they would gimme a Learjet. About a million or two and I jump on a Learjet and fly to the Cayman Islands. I was like 19 years old. Same time, you know, kid. Yeah, just a kid. 19 or 20 and yeah. 18, I think. And so I ended up doing that a few times. That was a lot of fun. And thatās nice to be a kid in the Learjet and they give me a million or two and they gimme a thousand dollars for the dayās work. I thought I was rich, I was, but people gotta understand thatās in that 78 money, not thatās, yeah. That was more like $10,000 for day, I guess. Yeah. You know? Yeah. It was a lot of money for an 18, 19-year-old kid. Yeah. Donnie gives me a bail. So Terry comes back from Ohio, we shoved the bale into his car. Barely would fit ācause he had no big trunk on this Firebird. He had, he had a Firebird trans Am with the thunder black with a thunder, thunder chicken on the hood. It was on the hood. Oh cool. That was, that was a catch meow back then. Yeah. Yeah. It got it with that [00:12:00] Ford plant money. And uh, by the way, that was after that 50 pounds got up. ācause every bailās about 50 pounds. Thatās the last he quit forward the next day. I bet. And me and him had built a 12 year, we were moving. Probably 50 tons up there over the 12 year period. You know, probably, I donāt know, anywhere from 50 to a hundred thousand pounds we would have, he must have been setting up other dealers. So among his friends, he must have been running around. He had the distribution, I was setting up the distribution network and you had the supply. I see. Yeah. I was the Florida connection. Itās every time you get busted, the cops always wanna grab that Florida connection. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. You gotta go down there. I there, lemme tell you, you know, I got into this. We were living in, I was born on a farm in New Jersey, like in know Norman Rockwell, 1950s, cow pies and hay bales. And then we moved to New Orleans in 1969 and then where my dad had business and right after, not sure after that, he died when I was 13. As I say in the book, I [00:13:00] probably wouldnāt have been writing the book if my father was alive. Yeah. ācause I probably wouldnāt have went down that road, you know? But so my mother decides in 1973 to move us to, uh, south Florida, to get away from the drugs in the CD underside of New Orleans. Yeah. I guess she didnāt read the papers. No. So I moved from New Orleans to the star, the war on where the war on drugs would start. I always say if sheād have moved me to Palo Alto, Iād be Bill Gates, but No. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was so, uh, and everybody I knew was running drugs, smuggling drugs, trying to be a drug deal. I mean, I was, I had my own operation. I was upper middle level, but there were guys like me everywhere. Mm-hmm. There were guys like me everywhere, moving a thou, I mean, moving a thousand, 2000 pounds at the time was a big thing, you know? Thatās, yeah. So, so about what year was that? I started in 19. 70. Okay. Three. I was [00:14:00] 16. Started selling drugs outta my momās house, me and my brother. We had a very good business going. And by the time I was got busted, it was 19 92. So, so you watched, especially in South Florida, you watched like where that plane could go down and go back up that at eventually the feds will come up with radar and they have blimps and they have big Bertha stuff down there to then catch those kinds of things. Yeah. Right, right. Big Bertha was the blimp. Uhhuh, uh, they put up, yeah. In the beginning you could just fly right in. We did one trip one time. This is this, my, my buddy picked up, I donāt know, 40 or 50 kilos in The Bahamas. So you fly into Fort Lauderdale and you call in like youāre gonna do a normal landing. Mm-hmm. And the BLI there. This is all 1980s, five. You know, they already know. Theyāre doing this, but you just call in, like youāre coming to land in Fort Lauderdale, and what you do is right before you land, you hit the tower up and you tell āem you wanna do a [00:15:00] go around, meaning youāre not comfortable with the landing. Mm-hmm. Well, theyāll always leave you a go around because they donāt want you to crash. Yeah. And right west of the airport was a golf course, and right next to the golf course, oh, about a mile down the road was my townhouse. So weāre in the townhouse. My buddies all put on, two of the guys, put on black, get big knives, gear, and I drive to one road on the golf course and my other friend grows Dr. We drop the guys off in the golf course as the planeās gonna do the touchdown at the airport. He says, I gotta go around. As heās pulling up now, heās 200 feet below the radar, just opens up the side of the plane. Mm-hmm. The kickers, we call āem, theyāre called kickers. He kicks the baskets, the ba and the guys on, on the golf court. Theyāre hugging trees. Yeah. You donāt wanna be under that thing. Right. You got a 200, you got maybe a 40 pound package coming in at 120 miles an hour from 200 feet up. Itāll break the bra. Itāll yeah. The [00:16:00] branches will kill you. Yeah. So they pull up, they get out, I pull back up in the pickup truck, he runs out, jumps in the back of the truck, yells, hit it. We drive the mile through the back roads to my townhouse. Get the coke in the house. My buddy rips it open with a knife. Itās and pulls out some blow. And he looks at me, he goes, Hey, letās get outta here. And I go, where are we going? Cops come and he goes, ah, I got two tickets. No, four tickets to the Eddie Murphy concert. So we left the blow in this trunk of his car. Oh. Oh, oh man. I know. We went to Eddie Murphy about a million dollars worth of product in the trunk. Oh. And, uh, saw a great show and came back and off they went. Thatās what Iām trying to point out is thatās how fast it goes down, man. Itās to do. Yeah. Right in, in 30 minutes. We got it out. Now the thing about drug deals is we always call āem dds delayed dope deals because the smuggling [00:17:00] trip could take six months to plan. Yeah. You know, they never go, thereās no organized crime in organized crime. Yeah. No organization did it. Yeah. And then, then of course, in 1992 when I got busted and was looking at Rico, a friend of mine came up to me. He was a yacht broker. He had gotten in trouble selling a boat, and he said, Hey, Iād you like to work for the DEA. Iād done three months in jail. I knew I was looking at time, I knew I had nothing. My lawyers told me, Kenny, you either figure something out or youāre going to jail for a mm-hmm. And I just had a newborn baby. I just got married three weeks earlier and we had a newborn baby. I said, what are you crazy? I mean, Iām waiting for my wife to hear me. You know, heās calling me on the phone. He goes, meet me for lunch. I go meet him for lunch. And he explains to me that heās gonna, heās got a guy in the, uh, central district in Jacksonville, and heās a DEA agent, and I should go talk to him. And so the DEA made a deal with the Ohio police that anything that I [00:18:00] confiscated, anything that I did, any assets I got, they would get a share in as long as they released me. Yeah. To them. And, you know, itās all about the, I hate to say this, Iām not saying that you donāt want to take drugs off the street, but if youāre the police department and youāre an agent, itās about asset seizures. Yeah. Yeah. Thatās how you fund the dr. The war on drugs. Yeah. The war begets war. You know, I mean, oh, I know, been Florida was, I understand hereās a deal. Youāre like suing shit against the tide, right? Fighting that drug thing. Okay? It just keeps coming in. It keeps getting cheaper. It keeps getting more and more. You make a little lick now and then make a little lick now and then, but then you start seeing these fancy cars and all this money out there that you can get to. If you make the right score, you, you, you hit the right people, you can get a bunch of money, maybe two or three really cool cars for your unit. So then youāll start focusing on, go after the money. I know itās not right, but youāre already losing your shoveling shit against the tide anyhow, so just go after the goal. [00:19:00] One time I set up this hash deal for the DEA from Amsterdam. The guy brought the hash in, and I had my agent, you know, I, I didnāt set up the deal. The guy came to me and said, we have 200 kilos of hash. Can you help us sell it? He didnāt know that I was working for the DEA, he was from Europe. And I said, sure. The, the thing was, I, so in the boat ready to close the deal, now my guy is from Central. Iām in Iām in Fort Lauderdale, which is Southern District. So he goes, Hey, can you get that man to bring that sailboat up to Jacksonville? I go, buddy, he just sailed across the Atlantic. He aināt going to Jacksonville. So the central district has to come down, or is a northern district? I canāt remember if itās northern or central. Has to come down to the Southern district. So, you know, they gotta make phone calls. Everybodyās gotta be in Yep. Bump heads. So Iām on the boat and he calls me, he goes, Hey, we gotta act now. Yeah. And Iām looking at the mark, I go, why? He [00:20:00] goes, customs is on the dock. We donāt want them involved. So you got the two? Yeah. So I bring him up, I go, whereās the hash? He goes, itās in the car. So we go up to the car and he opens the trunk, and I, I pull back one of the duffle bags I see. I can tell immediately itās product. So I go like this, and all hell breaks loose, right? Yeah. I could see the two customs agents and theyāre all dressed like hillbillies. They, you know. So I said to my, my handler, the next day I called them up to debrief. You know, I have to debrief after every year, everything. I goes, so what happened when customs I go, whatād they want to do? He goes, yep. They wanted to chop the boat in threes. So theyāre gonna sell the boat and the 2D EA offices are gonna trade it. Yeah. Are gonna shop the money. Yeah. I remember when I registered with the DEA in, in, in the Southern district, I had to tell āem who I was. They go, why are you working for him? Why arenāt you working for us? Iām like, buddy, Iām not in charge here. This is, you know? Yeah. I heard that many [00:21:00] times through different cases we did, where the, the local cop would say to me, why donāt you come work for us? Oh yeah. Try to steal your informant. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So how about that? So, can you get a piece of the action if they had a big case seizure? Yeah. Did they have some deal where youād get a piece of that action there? Yep. Thatās a pretty good deal. Yeah. So I would get, I, Iād get, like, if we brought down, he would always tell everybody that he needed money to buy electronics and then he would come to me and go, hereās 2000. And to the other cis, he had three guys. I saw a friend of mine, the guy that got me into the deal. Them a million dollar house or a couple million dollar house. And I saw the DEA hand him a suitcase with a million dollars cash in it. Wow. I mean, Iām sorry, with a hundred thousand cash. A hundred thousand. Okay. I was gonna say, I was thinking a million. Well, a hundred thousand. Yeah, a hundred thousand. Iāve heard that. I just didnāt have any experience with it myself. But I heard that. I saw, saw Open it up, saw money. I saw the money. It was one of those aluminum halla, Halliburton reef cases and Yeah, yeah. A [00:22:00] hundred thousand cash. But, uh, but you know, um, itās funny, somebody once asked me out of, as a kid I wanted to be a cowboy, a race car driver, and a secret agent. Me too. Yes. Yeah. I didnāt want, I wanted to be a, I grew up on a farm, so I kind of rode a horse. I had that watched Rowdy, you got saved background as me, man. Yeah. You know, we watched, we watched, we grew up on westerns. We watched Gun Smoke, rowdy. Oh yeah. You know, uh, bananas, uh, you know, so, um. So anyway, uh, I got to raise cars with my drug money, and I guess Iām not sure if I was more of a secret agent working as a drug dealer or as the DEA, but itās a lot of I, you know, I make jokes about it now, but itās a lot of stress working undercover. Oh, yeah. Oh, I canāt even imagine that. I never worked undercover. I, that was not my thing. I like surveillance and putting pieces together and running sources, but man, that actual working undercover thatās gotta be nerve wracking. Itās, you know, and, and my handler was good at it, but [00:23:00] he would step out and let, hereās, Iāll tell you this. One day he calls me up and he goes, Hey, Iām down here in Fort Lauderdale. You need to come down here right now. And Iām having dinner at my house about 15 minutes away. Now he lives in Jacksonville. I go, whatās he doing in Fort Lauderdale? So I drive down to the hotel and heās got a legal pad and a pen. He goes, my, uh, my, my seniors want to, uh, want you to proffer. You need to tell me everything you ever did. And they want me to do a proffer. And I go, I looked at him. I go, John, I canāt do that. He start, we start writing. I start telling him stuff. I stop. I go, I grew up in this town. Everybody I know I did a drug deal with from high school, I go, I would be giving you every single kid, every family, man, I grew up here. My, Iām gonna be in jail, and my wife and my one and a half year old daughter are gonna be the only people left in this town, and theyāre not gonna have any support. And I just canāt do this to all my friends. Yeah. So he says, all right, puts the pen down. I knew [00:24:00] he hated paperwork, so I had a good shot. He wasnāt gonna, he goes, yeah, you hungry? I go, yeah. He goes, letās go get a steak. And right across the street was a place called Chuck Steakhouse, which great little steak restaurant. All right. So we go over there, he goes, and he is a big guy. He goes, sit right here. I go, all right. So I sit down. I, Iām getting a free steak. Iām gonna sit about through the steak dinner, it goes. Look over my shoulder. So I do this. He goes, see the guy at the bar in the black leather jacket. I go, yeah. He goes, when I get up and walk outta here, when I clear the door, I want you to go up to him and find a talk drug deal. See what you can get out of him. I go, you want me to walk up to a complete stranger and say, he goes, Iām gonna walk out the door. When I get out the door. Youāre gonna go up and say, cap Captain Bobby. That was his, he was a ca a boat captain and his nickname, his handle was Captain Bobby. And he was theoretically the next Vietnam vet that now is a smuggler, you know?[00:25:00] Yeah. And so he walks out the door and I walked out and sat with the guy at the bar and we started, I said, hi, captain Bobby sent me, Iām his right hand man, you know, to talk about. And we talked and I looked around the bar trying to see if anybody was with him. And Iām figuring, now Iām looking at the guy going, why is he so open with me? And Iām thinking, you know what? Heās wearing a leather jacket. Heās in Florida. I bet you heās got a wire on and heās working for customs and Iām working for the DEA, so nothing ever came of it. But you know, that was, you know, youāre sitting there eating dinner and all of a sudden, you know, look over my shoulder. Yeah. And, you know, and Iām trying to balance all that with having a newborn thatās about a year old and my wife and Yeah. Looking at 25 years. So a little bit of pressure. But, you know, hey and I understand these federal agencies, everybodyās got, everybody is, uh, uh, aggressive. Everybody is ambitious. And you just are this guy in the middle and right. And theyāll throw you to the [00:26:00] wolves in a second. Second, what have you done for a second? Right? Itās what have you done for me lately? Heās calling me up and said, Hey, I donāt got any product from you in a minute. I go, well, Iām working on it. He goes, well, you know, theyāll kick you outta the program. Yeah. But one of the things he did he was one of, he was the GS 13. So he had some, you know, he had level, you know, level 15 or whatever, you know, he was, yeah. Almost at the head of near retirement too. And he said, look, he had me, he had another guy that was a superstar, another guy. And we would work as a team and he would feed us all the leads. In other words, if David had a case, Iād be on that case. So when I went to go to go to trial or go to my final, he had 14 or 15 different things that he had penciled me in to be involved with. The biggest deal we did at the end of my two years with the DEA was we brought down the Canadian mob. They got him for 10,000 kilos of cocaine, import 10,000 kilos. It was the Hellās Angels, the Rock something, motorcycle [00:27:00] gang, the Italian Mafia and the, and the Irish mob. Mm-hmm. And the guy, I mean, this is some badass guys. I was just a player, but. The state of Ohio, they got to fly up there and you know, I mean, no words, the dog and pony show was always on to give everybody, you know. Yes. A bite at the apple. Oh yeah. But Iāll tell you this, itās been 33 years and the two people that Iām close to is my arresting officer in Ohio and my DEA handler in Jacksonville. The arresting officer, when he retired, he called to gimme his new cell phone. And every year or so I call him up around Christmas and say, Dennis, thank you for the opportunity to turn my life around, because Iāve got four great kids. Iāve started businesses, you know, he knows what Iāve done with my life. And the DEA handler, thatās, heās a friend of mine. I mean, you know, we talk all the time and check on each other. And, you know, I mean, heās, [00:28:00] theyāre my friends. A lot of, not too many of the guys are left from those days that will talk to me. Yeah, probably not. And most of them are dead or in jail anyhow. For, well, a lot of āem are, maybe not even because of you, I mean, because thatās their life. No, but a lot of them, a number of āem turned their lives around, went into legal businesses and have done well. Yeah. So, you know, there really have, so not all of āem, but a good share of āem have turned, because we werenāt middle class kids. We were, my one friend was, dad was the lieutenant of the police department. The other one was the post guy. We werenāt inner city kids. Yeah. We werenāt meeting we, the drug war landed on us and we just, we were recruited into it. As young as I talk about in my book. But I mean, letās talk about whatās going on now. Now. Yeah. And listen, Iām gonna put some statistics out there. Last year, 250,000 people were charged with cannabis. 92% for simple possession. Thereās [00:29:00] people still in jail for marijuana doing life sentences. Iāve had friends do 27 years only for marijuana. No nonviolent crimes, first time offender. 22 years, 10 years. And the government is, Iāve been involved with things where the government was smuggling the drugs. I mean, go with the Iran Contra scandal that happened. We were trading guns for cocaine with the Nicaraguans in the Sandon Easterns. Yeah. Those same pilots. Gene Hassen Fus flew for Air America and Vietnam moving drugs and gun and, and guns out of Cambodia. Same guy. Air America. Yeah. The American government gave their soldiers opium in Civil War to keep āem marching. You know, I mean, we did a deal with Lucky Luciano, where we let āem out of prison for doing heroin exchange for Intel from, from Europe on during World War II and his, and the mob watching the docks for the, uh, cargo ships. So the governmentās been intertwined in the war on drugs on two [00:30:00] sides of it. Yeah. You know, and not that it makes it right. Look, Iāve lost several friends to fentanyl that thought they were doing coke and did fentanyl or didnāt even know there was any. They just accidentally did fentanyl and itās a horrible drug. But those boats coming out of Venezuela donāt have fentanyl on āem. No. Get cocaine maybe. If that, and they might be, theyāre probably going to Europe. Europe and theyāre going to Europe. Yeah, theyāre going, yeah. Theyāre doubt theyāre going to Europe. Yeah. Yeah. And so letās put it this way. I got busted for running a 12 year ongoing criminal enterprise. We moved probably 50 tons of marijuana. You know what? Cut me down? One guy got busted with one pound and he turned in one other guy that went all the way up to us. So if you blew up those boats, you know, youāre, you need the leads. You, you canāt kill your clients. Yeah. You know, how are you gonna get, not gonna get any leads outta that. Well, thatās, uh, well, Iām just saying [00:31:00] you right. The, if they followed the boat to the mothership Yeah. Theyād have the whole crew and all the cargo. Yeah. You know, itās, those boats maybe have 200 kilos on āem. A piece. Yeah. The mothership has six tons. Yeah. Thatās it. Itās all about the, uh, the, um, uh, optics. Optics, yeah. Thatās the word. Itās all about the optics and, and the politic, you know, in, in some way it may deter some people, but I donāt, I I, Iāve never seen anything, any consequence. In that drug business, thereās too much money. There is no consequence that is really ever gonna deter people from smuggling drugs. Let me put it this way, except for a few people like yourself, thereās a few like yourself that get to a certain age and the consequence of going to prison for a long time may, you know, may bring you around or the, all the risk youāre taking just, you know, you canāt take it anymore, but you gotta do something. But no, well, I got busted twice. Consequence just donāt matter. There is no consequence thatās gonna do anything. Hereās why. And youāre right. [00:32:00] One is how do you get in a race car and not think youāre gonna die? Because you always think itās gonna happen to somebody else. Exactly. And the drug business is the same. Itās, Iām not, itās not gonna happen to me tonight. And those guys in Venezuela, they have no electricity. They have no water. Yeah. They got nothing. They have a chance to go out and make a couple thousand dollars and change their familyās lives. Yeah. Or theyāre being, theyāre got family members in the gar, in the gangs that are forcing them to do it. Yeah. Itās the war on drugs has kind of been a political war and an optics war from the seventies. I mean, itās nobody, listen, I always say, I say in my book, nobody loved it more than the cops, the lawyers and the politicians. No shit. In Fort Lauderdale, they had nothing, and all of a sudden the drug wars brought night scopes and cigarette boats and fancy cars and new offices. Yes. And new courthouses, and new jails and Yep. I donāt have an answer. Yeah. The problem is, [00:33:00] you know what Iām gonna say, America, Mexico doesnāt have a drug problem. Columbia doesnāt have a drug problem. No. America has a drug problem. Those are just way stations to get the product in. In the cover of my book, it says, you donāt sell drugs, you supply them like ammunition in a war. Itās a, people, we, how do we fix this? How do we get the American people? Oh, by the way, hereās a perfect example. Marijuana is legal in a majority of states. You donāt see anybody smuggling marijuana in, I actually heard two stories of people that are smuggling marijuana out of the country. Iāve heard that. Iāve heard that. Yeah. Theyāre growing so much marijuana in America that itās worth shipping to other places, either legally or illegally. Yeah. And, and, and you know, the biggest problem is like, what theyāll do is theyāll set up dispensaries, with the green marijuana leaf on it, like itās some health [00:34:00] dispensary. But they, they just wonāt itāll be off the books. It just wonāt have the licensing and all that. And, you know, you run that for a while and then maybe you get caught, maybe you donāt. And so itās, you know, itās, well, the other thing is with that dispensary license. Itās highly regulated, but you can get a lot of stuff in the gray. So thereās three markets now. Thereās the white market, which is the legal Yeah. Business that, you know, you can buy stocks in the companies and whatnot. Yeah. Thereās the black market, which is the guy on the street that Kenny Bear used to be. And then thereās the gray market where people are taking black market product and funneling it through the white markets without intact, you know, the taxes and the licensing and the, the, uh, testing for, you know, you have to test marijuana for pesticides. Metals, yeah. And, and the oils and the derivatives. You know, thereās oil and thereās all these derivatives. They have to be tested. Well, you could slide it through the gray market into the white market. So I know itās a addiction, you know, whether itās gambling or sex or Right. Or [00:35:00] thereās always gonna be people who are gonna take advantage and make money off of addiction. The mafia, you know, they refined it during the prohibition. All these people that drink, you know, and a lot, admittedly, a lot of āem are social drinkers, but awful lot of āem work. They had to have it. And so, you know, then gambling addiction. And thatās, uh, well hereās what I say. If it wasnāt for Prohibition Vegas, the mob never wouldāve had the power and the money to build Vegas. No, they wouldnāt have anything. So when you outlaw something that people want, youāre creating a, a business. If, if somebody, somebody said the other day, if you made all the drugs legal in America, would that put out, put the drug cartels in Mexico and Columbia and out of business? Yeah, maybe. How about this statistic? About 20 to 30,000 people a year die from cocaine overdose. Most have a medical condition. Unknown unbe, besides, theyāre not ODing on cocaine. Yeah. Alright. 300,000 people a year die from obesity. Yeah. And [00:36:00] another, almost four, I think 700, I donāt know, I might be about to say a half a million die from alcohol and tobacco. Mm-hmm. I could be low on that figure. So youāre, you probably are low. Yeah. I could be way more than that. But on my point is weāre regulating alcohol, tobacco, and certainly donāt care how much food you eat, and why donāt we have a medical system that takes care of these people. I donāt know that the answer if I did, but Iām just saying it, making this stuff more valuable and making bigger crime syndicates doesnāt make sense. Yeah. See a addiction is such a psychological, spiritual. Physical maldy that people canāt really separate the three and they donāt, people that, that arenāt involved and then getting some kind of recovery, they canāt understand why somebody would go back and do it again after they maybe were clean for a while. You know, thatās a big common problem with putting money into the treatment center [00:37:00] business. Yep. Because people do go to treatment two and three times and, and maybe they never get, some people never, theyāll chase it to death. No, and I canāt explain it. And you know, I, Iāll tell you what, I have my own little podcast. Itās called One Step Over the Line. Mm-hmm. And I released a show last night about a friend of mine, his name is Ron Black. You can watch it or any of your listeners can watch it, and Ron was, went down to the depths of addiction, but he did it a long time ago when they really spent a lot of time and energy to get, you know, they really put him through his system. 18 months, Ron got out clean and he came from a good family. He was raised right. He didnāt, you know, he had some trauma in his life. He had some severe trauma as a child, but he built one of the largest addiction. He has a company that heās, he ran drug counseling services. Heās been in the space 20 or 30 years, giving back. He has a company that trains counselors to be addiction specialists. He has classes for addiction counseling. He become certified [00:38:00] members. Heās run drug rehabs. He donates to the, you know, you gotta wa if you get a chance to go to my podcast, one step over the line and, and watch this episode we did last night. Probably not the most exciting, you know, like my stories. Yeah. But Ronnie really did go through the entire addiction process from losing everything. Yeah. And pulling himself out. But he was also had a lot of family. You know, he had the right steps. A lot of these kids I was in jail with. Black and brown, inter or inner city youth, whatever, you know, their national, you know, race or nationality, they donāt have a chance. Yeah. Theyāre in jail with their fathers, their cousins, their brothers. Mm-hmm. The law, the war on drugs, and the laws on drugs specifically affect them. And are they, I remember thinking, is this kid safer in this jail with a cement roof over his head? A, a hot three hot meals and a bed than being back on the [00:39:00] streets? Yeah. He was, I mean. Need to, I used to do a program working with, uh, relatives of addicts. And so this mother was really worried about her son gonna go to jail next time he went to court. And he, she had told me enough about him by then. I said, you know, maāam, I just wanna tell you something heās safer doing about a year or so in jail than he is doing a year or so on the streets. Yeah. And she said, she just looked at me and she said, you know, youāre right. Youāre right. So she quit worried about and trying to get money and trying to help him out because she was just, she was killing him, getting him out and putting him back on the streets. This kid was gonna die one way or the other, either shot or overdosed or whatever. But Iāll tell you another story. My best friend growing up in New Orleans was Frankie Monteleone. They owned the Monte Hotel. They own the family was worth, the ho half a billion dollars at the time, maybe. And Frankie was a, a diabetic. And he was a, a junk. He was a a because of the diabetic needles. [00:40:00] He kind of became a cocaine junkie, you know, shooting up coke. You know, I guess the needle that kept him alive was, you know, I, you know, again the addict mentality. Right, right. You canāt explain it. So he got, so he got busted trying to sell a couple grams. They made it into a bigger case by mentioning more product conspiracy. His father said, got a, the, the father made a deal to give him a year and a half in club Fed. Yeah. He could, you know, get a tan, practice his tennis, learn chess come out and be the heir to one of the richest families in the world, all right. He got a year and a half. Frankie did 10 years in prison. ācause every time he got out, he got violated. Oh yeah. I remember going to his federal probation officer to get my bicycle. He was riding when he got violated. Mm-hmm. And I said, I said, sir, he was in a big building in Fort Lauderdale or you know, courthouse office building above the courthouse. I go, thereās so many cops, lawyers, [00:41:00] judges, that are doing blow on a Saturday night that are smoking pot, that are drinking more than they should all around us. Youāve got a kid that comes from one of the wealthiest families in America thatās never gonna hurt another citizen. Heās just, heās an addict, not a criminal. He needs a doctor, not a jail. And you know what the guy said to me? He goes but those people arenāt on probation. I, I know. He did. 10 years in and out of prison. Finally got out, finally got off of paper, didnāt stop doing drugs. Ended up dying in a dentist chair of an overdose. Yeah. So you, you never fixed them, you just imprisoned somebody that wouldāve never heard another American. Yeah, but we spent, it cost us a lot of money. You know, I, I, I dunno what the answer is. The war on drugs is, we spent over, we spent 80, letās say since 1973. The, the DEA got started in 73, letās say. Since that time weāve, whatās that? 70 something years? Yeah. Weāve done [00:42:00] no, uh, 50, 60. Yeah. 50 something. Yeah. Been 50. We spent a trillion dollars. We spent a trillion dollars. The longest and most expensive war in American history is against its own people. Yeah. Trying to save āem. I know itās cra itās crazy. Yeah, I know. And it, over the years, it just took on this life of its own. Yeah. And believe me, there was a, thereās a whole lot of young guys like you only, didnāt go down the drug path, but you like that action and you like getting those cool cars and doing that cool stuff and, and thereās TV shows about it as part of the culture. And so youāre like, you got this part of this big action thing thatās going on that I, you know, it aināt right. I, I bigger than all of us. I donāt know. I know. All I like to say I had long hair and some New Orleans old man said to me when I was a kid, he goes, you know why you got that long hair boy? And this is 1969. Yeah, 70. I go, why is that [00:43:00] sir? He goes, ācause the girls like it. The girls didnāt like it. You wouldnāt have it. I thought about it. Iām trying to be a hippie. I was all this, you know, rebel. I thought about it. I go, boy, heās probably right. Comes down to sex. Especially a young boy. Well, I mean, Iām 15 years old. I may not even how you look. Yeah. Iām not, listen, at 15, I probably was only getting a second base on a whim, you know? Yeah. But, but they paid attention to you. Yeah. Back in those days you, you know, second base was a lot. Yeah. Really. I remember. Sure. Not as, not as advanced as they are today. I donāt think so. But anyway, thatās my story. Um, all right, Ken b this has been fun. Itās been great. I I really had a lot of fun talking to you. And the book is 1, 1, 1 took over the line. No one, no, no. Thatās a Friday slip. One step over that. But that was what I came up with the name. I, I believe you, I heard that song. Yeah. I go, I know, Iām, Iāve just taken one step over the line. So thatās where the book actually one step over the line confessions of a marijuana mercenary. [00:44:00] And Iāll tell you, if your listeners go to my website, one step over the line.com, go to the tile that says MP three or the tile that says digital on that website. Put in the code one, the number one step, and then the number 100. So one step 100, they can get a free, they can download a free copy. Yeah, I got you. Okay. Okay. I appreciate it. Thatād be good. Yeah, theyāll enjoy it. Yeah. And on the website thereās pictures of the boats, the planes. Yeah. The runways the weed the, all the pictures are there, family pictures, whatever. Well, you had a, uh, a magical, quite a life, the kinda life that they, people make movies about and everybody watches them and says, oh, wow, thatās really cool. But they didnāt have to do it. They didnāt have to pay that price. No. Most of the people think, the funny thing is a lot of people think Iām, Iām, Iām lying or Iām exaggerating. Yeah. Iām 68 years old. Yeah. Thereās no reason for me to lie. And you know, the DEA is, Iām telling that. Iām just telling it the way it [00:45:00] happened. I have no reason to tell Phish stories at this point in my life. No, I believe it. No, no, no. Itās all true. All Iāve been, Iāve been around to a little bit. I, I could just talk to you and know that youāre telling the truth here I am. So, itās, itās a great story and Ken, I really appreciate you coming on the show. Thank you for having me. Itās been a very much a, it is been a real pleasure. Itās, itās nice to talk to someone that knows both sides of the coin. Okay. Take care. Uh, thanks again. Thank you, sir. Thank you very much. Appreciate it.
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