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Mystery Mike and Slick Fronk Sanders of the Hush Hush Society Conspiracy Hour talk about MK-Ultra, ancient architecture, whether or not DINOSAURS are real. Also as always Mystery Mike's lighting game is on point.If you like this content and want to help support creating more please consider becoming a patreon or buying a book, comic, sticker or other merch. Digital comics available on the website for just $1.Amazon Books: https://amzn.to/3RefbXOPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/ParanoidAmericanInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/paranoidamerican/Twitter: https://twitter.com/paranoidamericaWebsite: https://paranoidamerican.com/Follow The Hush Hush Society Conspiracy Hour at:https://www.youtube.com/c/hushhushsocietyconspiracyhourhttps://www.hushhushsociety.com/https://twitter.com/HHSConspiracyhttps://www.facebook.com/groups/hushhushsocietyconspiracyhourhttps://www.instagram.com/hhsconspiracyhourpodSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/paranoid-american/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Easy E and I have a treat in store for you this evening. We have some special guests on the line to talk to us. Their names are Mystery Mike, Declassified Dave and Slick Franc, and they're the hosts of the Hush Hush Society Conspiracy Hour Podcast. The Hush Hush Society Conspiracy Hour is a podcast exploring the history and beliefs of the dark underbelly of the conspiratorial world! The guys have been doing their podcast for three years and has garnered 200,000 downloads. They have interviewed guests such as Ben Hansen, Nick Pope, David Icke and Andrew Gough, just to name a few. They release new episodes regularly and their podcast can be found wherever you get your podcasts. To learn more, you'll have to Turn On, Tune In, & Find Out!

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In this not so Christmasy edition of AI, we sit down with Declassified Dave and Slick Fronk Sanders from the Hush Hush Society Conspiracy Hour to talk, well, everything. This was a great conversation where we discussed dreams, reality, UFOs, off world technology, congressional hearings, Roswell, the JFK assassination, Project Blue Beam, and somehow a whole lot more. We closed the night by hearing some of the Hush Hush guys personal paranormal experiences. *Hush Hush Society information If you have any questions or topics you'd like to see the society cover, please reach out at Contact@hushhushsociety.comYou can find all our audio, blogs and drop sweet ratings at www.hushhushsociety.comFind our Video Content on our RokfinLeave us a review on Apple, our website, Podchaser or GoodPodsYou can grab Hush Hush merch and help support the show on PatreonLink up with the society on social media:FacebookInstagramTwitterJoin our Discord and chat with us*Appalachian Intelligence Podcast information Please rate and review this episode wherever you listen to podcasts.Reach out to us with your own stories at appalachianintelligence@gmail.comFollow us on Twitter at @AiAppIntelPodFollow us on Facebook at Appalachian IntelligenceFollow us on Instagram @appalachianintelligenceSubscribe to our YouTube channel Appalachian IntelligenceIntro Music - The Colonel - Zachariah HickmanOutro Music - Dark Dream - Brad Hill Support the show

This week we're exploring the fascinating and controversial topic of flat earth theory....again. This ancient belief, once relegated to the fringes of society, has seen a resurgence in recent years thanks to the power of the internet and social media. On this episode, we'll take a deep dive into the history of the flat earth movement and examine the arguments made by its supporters.  We'll explore the evidence (or lack thereof) supporting the idea that the earth is not a globe, but rather a flat, disc-shaped plane. Whether you're a believer or a skeptic, you won't want to miss this revisit. Join us as we challenge our assumptions about the world around us and explore the flat earth phenomenon. Did we change our minds? *Intro sound clip features comedian Dan Cummins If you have any questions or topics you'd like to see the society cover, please reach out at Contact@hushhushsociety.com   You can find all our audio, blogs and drop sweet ratings at www.hushhushsociety.com Find our Video Content on our Rokfin Leave us a review on Apple, our website, Podchaser or GoodPods You can grab Hush Hush merch and help support the show on Patreon Link up with the society on social media:   Facebook   Instagram   Twitter    Join our Discord and chat with us   TRANSCRIPT Flat Earth 2   [00:01:00]  Dave: Greetings, Hushlings. Welcome back to the Hush Hush Society Conspiracy Hour. Mike: Where we journey into the world of conspiratorial mysteries and dark truths Dave: I'm Declassified Dave Mike: and I'm Mystery Mike and as though is we're joined by our fellow globetard Slick Fronk Sanders. Fronk: The Earth is probably round how you doing? Dave: it's going. Are things going around today? Mike: Quick question flat Earthers. How do boomerangs work on your flat plane? Fronk: Boomerangs are flat.  Dave: that got him. If you didn't notice today, we returned to the great debate in this episode. Is the Earth round? Is the Earth flat? Fronk: Hushling's, uh, in case you weren't [00:02:00] aware, we visited this topic in season three and completely shat all over the flat plane and we believe we should revisit this mother of all modern conspiracies, seeing as though it's such a big part of conspiracy culture. Dave: it's getting even bigger, even though you guys probably most definitely are gonna take a second dumping in this one. Mike: not as bad as the first. Dave: Not  Fronk: Yeah. We'll see. We'll see. Mike: we've discussed how there are different phases to being a flat earther. I'm guess I'm still in stage zero and we were in stage one in May of 2021. let's go up around to stage two But before we search for the horizon and fall off the flat plane and search for God in the sky under the spotlight sun, you can always find us on our social medias, Facebook, [00:03:00] Instagram, and Twitter Dave: You can also find everything hush hush society on our website, www.hushhushsociety.com. From episodes to links to merchandise, and the ability to drop a review or leave us a voicemail. We hope we get some after this episode. Mike: Hmm. Please do. Dave: Yeah. Fronk: And we keep mentioning that we are now also a video podcast. You can not only. To us, but you can watch us, you can see our faces. You can get that expressional action that you might not get from just an audio recording. And to find those episodes, you just gotta go to Rock Fin. It's, it's very simple. Rock fin.com. There's even an app. And in the search bar you just put in Hush Hush Society. You'll find us nice and easy. And there you can find all of our videos. you hit the notification button. You get notifications when our videos come out. Check it out. Mike: And just one last thing before we move on to the flat plane, we just [00:04:00] want to give a quick shout out to our newest patron, Gabrielle May. Thank you so much. We appreciate you. Fronk: Just in case you're new to this, we're gonna do a quick little recap for you on what Flat Earth theory is, and essentially, in a nutshell, the earth is flat rather than round. Pretty self explanatory, although it's made its appearance throughout history. The theory gained popularity around 2009 and has continued to grow ever since. Dave: It is regarded as one of the most controversial conspiracy theories in existence. Why claim that our earth is flat and not a globe easy? That's because it looks flat and feels flat and is surrounded by 200 feet of ice blocking us from traversing across an infinite plane or falling off the edge. Sounds correct, right? Fronk: I mean, yeah, that's what I've been made to believe. That's that's what it seems like Mike: Yeah. Riding on the back of a turtle through the cosmos, but the cosmos [00:05:00] doesn't exist, so where's the turtle going? Anyways,  according to believers, NASA and the ruling elite protect the ice walls from people attempting to climb over and fall from the disc. Can't make it up. They also believe that earth's gravity is an illusion, and that objects are driven up by a mysterious force called dark energy, rather than spinning and being stuck to a surface, Fronk: But on the other hand, there are countless photographs, videos, and images from astronauts and the International Space Station that kind of seem like evidence to show that the Earth is round. But these are not considered real evidence and are allegedly faked by the government or the ruling elites Dave: Now before we move on, flat, earthers already pissed off at our description in the beginning, Fronk: probably. Dave: we wanted to pull you in, but we'll make it as [00:06:00] fair as possible with some of the talking points that we're going to go over.  Now, Hushlings, there is the flat Earth Society as well as thousands of others from around the globe in groups. In addition to independent researchers, even though there is evidence to contradict some of these arguments, they are dismissed as fabrications of around earth conspiracy, along with stars, planets, galaxies, space, and gravity, all being a part of the facade of where we live. Mike: That is my biggest thing when it comes down to a debate between a flat earth and someone who believes that we live on a globe, is that it always results. In a flat earth are saying, well, that's what you've been told. You've been lied to. You're believing a lie that's being told to you, which is the old faithful of all conspiracy theorists, is that you're being lied to. That's all well and good, but at what point do you turn around and say, the [00:07:00] science is being lied to you. Nasa, we know lies to us. We know they fabricate images. We know what they do. But again, that's more of an argument that NASA is filled with bunch of liars. But at what point do you look at it maybe there is evidence that it's a globe or maybe there is evidence that it's a flat plane. There has to be a certain cutoff point where you stop saying, well, you're being lied to. That's what they want you to believe. That's what they're fabricating the science. They're fabricating this. They're fabricating that. How, and this has always been my issue, how do you talk to a flat earth and say, what piece of evidence would it take for you to say that it's a globe Dave: Pictures. Mike: pictures? , but then you show them a picture of this is what our earth looks like. It's a globe. Or you show them video or you show them anything. Well, that's been fabricated. It's always like this deniability to go against what they believe in. Like you, you have to deny [00:08:00] it. You have to deny it because it shakes the entire foundation of what their belief system is, especially when it comes to a flat earth. But then they always revert back to, that's what the Bible says. That's what the Bible says. I'm sorry, we, we've been over the Bible many times. We all know that it's been changed a thousand times and it's a book.  Fronk: not only that, but that's what they're making the Bible say. That's what certain people are interpreting the bible to say, and you can make the Bible say a lot of different things depending on how you decide to interpret it as a person. And if you're interpreting it as, they're telling me about the flat earth and so be it, Dave: This episode is gonna focus a little bit more heavily on some of the things that Mike and Fronk just mentioned, talking about NASA and the why would they lie and why would they fake and indoctrinated us as kids to believe that it's a ball. , and these are major [00:09:00] talking points that I've learned over the last year and a half since we've done this, other than just the physical evidence. We have the physical evidence if you're going to go by the, mainstream. we'll go through a bunch of stuff. I think we'll talk about religion too. So Mike, save those nails, buddy. Mike: We'll look into some of what we just listed and more throughout this episode, and it strongly suggested you listen to our first crack at this crust to understand where some of the historical beliefs come from and a lot of other things about this theory, mainly the science. But let's give this another oscillation, shall we? We're gonna literally hit some of the proposed theories and then firmly spit some facts. be prepared to, uh, confirm or deny your belief. Fronk: Before we completely dive into the flat plane, we're gonna talk about the planet as we've been taught in a traditional sense. Our Native [00:10:00] Earth is a terrestrial rocky planet, correct? Yes or no? I mean, whether it's flat around truth,  It has a dynamic and active surface with mountains, valley, canyons, you name it. All the different geographical structures and a variety of other features. It has water covering 70% of its surface, as well as harboring thousands of life forms, and it has a unique orbiting satellite arm. Dave: it has a circumference. Remember this number Hushlings 24,901 miles. And it shares our solar system with eight, sorry, Pluto, eight other planets and is rotating at around thousand miles an hour while orbiting our home star. Now this is where flat Earthers start to deny our existence on a spinning ball. we're orbiting around our sun at 67,000 miles an hour, all while zipping around the center of the Milky Way, roughly at [00:11:00] around 490,000 miles an hour. And the biggest claim, you can't feel it.   Mike: Well, that's just what we're taught in school. Unfortunately, most of us didn't escape the clutches of the Rockefeller Education System. There's that name again. Yep. He created the General Education Board in 1902 at the cost of 129 million. It's a lot of money back in 1902. It's a lot of money today and provided major funding for schools across the nation and was very influential in shaping the school system. Also, he's quoted as saying, I don't want a nation of thinkers. I want a nation of workers. Sounds like my pause. Fronk: And that speaks some deep truth because school does indoctrinate the nation into the trap of society. Once you hit like 10th grade, you're already filling out college applications, colleges that you're gonna be in debt to for the rest of your life, that you're gonna have to work for the majority of [00:12:00] your life to pay off for that job that you'll be working for the rest of your life. And it's this endless cycle. So that's definitely perpetuated by some global elitist. I get that to an extent, maybe the indoctrination portion of it. Dave: Well, from the beginning. Which classroom have you ever been in that didn't have a globe?    Fronk: In 1928, John D Rockefeller Jr. Financed an expedition to the South Pole as a British secret service. Agent Rockefeller knew perfectly that no South Pole existed, but people were curious about the true shape of the world. From 1956 onward, Antarctica was completely controlled by the Pentagon. Hence the Antarctic Treaty. And anybody visiting this chunk of land without permission was shot on site. Admiral by who we've talked about extensively, died mysteriously in 1957 and perhaps had a timely demise before he could tell the truth about what the South Pole. Mike: When it comes to the[00:13:00] Antarctic treaty and being shot on sight, who is shooting these people on sight? Fronk: Snow snipers. Those drones from Star Wars that landed on Hoth Mike: , that's a lot of land to patrol in order to watch for people.  Dave: remember. Antarctica is 5.2 million square miles as well. Mike: That's what doesn't make sense to me. You're gonna be shot on sight and that's another part of the Antarctic treaty that I also don't understand. Who is physically stopping you from going there? The only thing that's physically stopping you from going to Antarctica is it costs a lot of money. To either charter a boat that would go there. most people don't go there. Most charter boats don't go there. You could do a flyover, but that's only partial. Who is physically stopping you besides your bank account? Dave: I did see a video recently of some guys on a boat that were stopped. I think they were stopped by the New Zealand Navy [00:14:00] or the Australian Navy, and they were turning him around and you can see like. Ice in the distance or something like that. And I don't know if there was just like an iceberg that was out there that they were near, but the allegations on TikTok was got turned around at the bottom of the world, cause I believe it's, there's some degree, and I'm gonna sound uneducated saying this, but I don't know the degree, I think, but there's some degree at the bottom of the world. That you can't go. But the Antarctic treaty, it contradicts itself because the Antarctic treaty was supposed to be a demilitarized zone. No military stuff. No commercial, nothing. It was supposed to be strictly for research. Fronk: So why is the Navy there? Of who? New Zealand? Dave: It was either New Zealand or Australia Fronk: So what is the New Zealand or Australian Navy doing there? Dave: Well, they're close to Antarctica Fronk: Yeah, but isn't a non-military zone. Dave: But there's only military scientists maybe not all military scientists. You got like, Noah [00:15:00] scientists and stuff, and I'm sure NASA is down there, the Nazis, they're all down there. You know, you  got everybody. Antarctica looks like a continent to me, and there's a lot of pictures of it. And are they fake? I am. I'm not on the plane, so I don't know. . Why would it matter and why would they lie? The largest argument of why these elites would lie to us is most likely there's more land, more resources, maybe even unlimited resource. And lands beyond the ice shelf or walls, as well as the suppression of how powerful of beings we are, which can kind of be a different argument that has nothing to do with flat earth as well. thoughts on that? Fronk: I could get behind both of those points to an extent in the shoes of a flat Earth, for example. Yes. If you told me that there was unlimited resources, we're talking oil, we're talking the purest water in the world. We're talking minerals that are used to power the world's [00:16:00] electronics, whatever, energy generating methods that we might have unlimited supply of that which would completely destroy not only the US dollar, but the world economy, which is what the alleged elites thrive off of. And if it's not money that they thrive off of it is leaching our fucking energy. And we've talked about that a lot. And if we were to unlock some sort of crazy. Secret about ourselves or humanity as a whole. That might be incredibly enlightening to a lot of people or disturbing. I could see it going either way, but if, if a bunch of people woke up and they were incredibly enlightened, that could be bad for the reptilian negative energy blood suckers. Dave: I don't think it would go well for anybody. I think we always do ask this question a lot when we talk about this as is, would it change our everyday lives? And we usually say no, but it would, because we [00:17:00] probably have a massive economic shutdown. religions would collapse. There'd probably be some type of total anarchy that would happen and then we'd have our own epiphanies of being like, not really upset that I was wrong, but shit I was lied to as well, part of the Doy group. And that would be a shitty day. would it end everything for me? No, it would change everything for sure. But I think the unlimited resources part, I could see somebody hiding that, , we did talk about Admiral Byrd and Admiral Byrd went through, supposedly into the hollow earth, could he have misinterpreted and gone through a crack and found more land. Who knows? In the writing The Iron Republic, written by EW Barrington and published also in 1902, another one of that year with the education system. It was published in Florida Magazine, and it said that an explorer went through a crack in the ice walls and found an advanced civilization after being lost for over a month at sea. So that [00:18:00] means he went through the ice walls and there was more ocean,  Mike: Have there ever been any, any pictures or video of the ice wall or beyond it? Fronk: Uh, people take pictures of. Ice shelves and try to say that they're the ice walls, but at the same time, those could very well just be ice shelves or very large icebergs Mike: Makes sense. Makes sense.  Dave: I wanna see a flight going around the whole whatever, 76,000 miles it's supposed to actually be. Just banking around the whole rim. But you can't go there because the military will shoot you down in a de militarized. Mike: I still think that there's plenty of ways to get there. And we talked, who do we talk with? That had went to Antarctica? Was it Mark Fronk: on a cruise with like their father. Yeah. Mark O'Connell. Yeah. Dave: Yep. Mike: O'Connell said that , he went to Antarctica with his family. Dave: San Diego Padre's pitcher's there right now.  Fronk: Yeah, but he, he also mentioned that it was like the only [00:19:00] part of Antarctica that they'll let a civilian on and it's like this tiny little peninsula and they've got the little, novelty pole.  Like you could go up and touch it and take a picture with it. Yeah. And they got little stuff, penguins and shit. Dave: could it just be a simple explanation why we don't bring people there? One, you'll die  Fronk: , yes, it's very extreme terrain, there's tons of extreme terrain that we're allowed to go to that you would probably die in if you weren't very well equipped. Mike: Yeah, it makes sense that the only reason that they would be stopping people from going there, besides the massive, endless amounts of resources that they're hoarding from us, would be that they just don't want people going out there and fucking dying.  This brings up another allegation that even the word extraterrestrial means extra terra or more land. Trying to hold some weight to the notion this has been taught to us. We see in the film The Next Level by David Weiss. [00:20:00] He meets with an older woman named Ruth. She's 102, God bless her, from Connecticut, who was in tears claiming that she was taught flat Earth in school, in Hamden, Connecticut, and now feels vindicated and better because of his truths. Dave: she was like, lost it. Mike: like real, real emotional about it. Dave: Yeah. Really emotional about it Mike: Okay. We just mentioned the Rockefeller education system and him saying that he doesn't want a nation of thinkers. He wants a nation of workers. , in the 1920s, if she was taught that the earth was flat, She would've been learning from that education system. Dave: True. Yeah, but I don't think that there's actually, I've looked and looked and looked and couldn't find any definitive evidence that was saying that they actually taught that in schools. Because even in 2022 curriculums across the country are not the same, even across the [00:21:00] same states, depending on the size of your state, they're not the same, especially when you get to advanced levels like college professors are teaching what they want within that curriculum, How in 1920 were they all taught the same thing when there was still tons and tons and tons, tons of schools. , that's the thing that gets me,  she's 102. Could she have just been like, yeah, I saw that once and she saw it on a cartoon in the seventies while she was in her sixties,  Fronk: nonetheless, I do find it difficult to wrap my head around because it was David Weiss who did that interview or whatever, and he brings up a lot of stuff about flat Earth. I listen to a bunch of his talks and shows that he went on to and whatnot, and he brings up all of these points and , he tells people to just, look into it. You gotta look into it yourself. You gotta do your research. , you go to do this research and obviously if you're looking into stuff like this, you're not going to [00:22:00] Google. You're not using Bing, like the go to search engine for anything that you can't find is duck, duck go. And he's been saying that Duck, duck go is starting to censor things of this nature. So, like Dave, I went looking for what the global education was like in the 1910s, the 1920s, and. Again, like you said, no definitive proof. Is it a censorship thing or is it the fact that it was just not taught as flat in the 1920s? Dave: There's also allegations that say that, it was the thirties and even in the sixties through certain education systems. , I almost bought David Weiss's app now. David had contacted us and let us know how he thought about us. I think in the next level, , it almost looks like somebody's trying to sell something and maybe this woman really did feel vindicated Ruth if she's still alive or not. but I don't know, check out the next level. It's an interesting take on flat earth and [00:23:00] there's a bunch of other proponents that I'd never even heard of that have some interesting talking points. Mike: my beef when it comes to David is he did reach out to us. He reached out to us a couple times, especially after our flat Earth episode. And essentially just berated us through email it's the usual argument that I, especially for some odd reason am on the receiving end of arguments with flat earthers is just yelling and anger and just being pissed off consistently. and he was not too happy, as Dave said with how we covered it in our talking points. He said, oh, it's the same talking points. Well, it's the same talking points with flat Earthers too. you talk about the Bible, you talk about nasa, you talk about, it's like, it's, it's the same talking points because we're talking about the same fucking topic.  Of course we're gonna have our sides to it and of, and flat earthers are gonna have their sides to it. It's just the way that it is. That's how you have constructive. [00:24:00] Conversations that go back and forth with conflicting beliefs. Dave: I feel like it's a lot of frustration that , you're just not getting it. Fronk: I feel like he rails Coke and like smashes Globes in his free time, like buys globes from Goodwill and just fucking destroys them in the parking lot and then drives home  Dave: beats them with Louisville slugs. Just smack. Smack.  Mike: I can't wait for our next email correspondence after this one. Fronk: dude. It's not gonna be an email. It's gonna be a voice message and he is gonna be all fucking jacked up out of his mind.    Dave: Before we move on to like the major talking points we gotta talk about what Mike mentioned earlier where a lot of the stuff that is talked about goes back to biblical cosmology and creationism.  Mike: Yeah. And that's always been my biggest talking point with discussions with flat Earthers is explain it to me I will give you my counterpoints and you'll give me your points and we can go [00:25:00] back and forth, but complete your, persuasion of trying to make me see that it's a flat plane. Complete your argument without using the Bible. Every single fucking time. Every single time it ends in, well, it says this in the Bible and it says this, it always ends up being that let's put it this way. I've never met a flat earth that wasn't also at the same time a Bible thumper. Dave: I've met two types. I feel like there are conflicting points to, flat earthers even they step on each other's toes a little bit. They might not, not get along, but I think there are some folks that definitely don't believe in the biblical cosmology and it's just a physical thing. But every time you go back to, if it's a physical thing, that's a structure that's not a planet. It brings me to the question, even a non-religious person. It brings me to the question, well then we're talking about who created it, [00:26:00] not just the science of planets and, gas and particles coming together for, from a accretion. We're talking a whole different thing. Now. We're talking about, well, if it's a structure , and this is not what we think it is and this is not what I think it is, then it had to have been manufactured structure. We build structures. using that type of verbiage, brings even me to being like, , now we're in the religious realm or the faith realm. Fronk: You want me to blow your mind right now? you know what's easier than creating a whole universe writing fucking lines of code. Bam, bam.  Mike: Yeah, there it is. There it is. We should just bring all arguments of flat earth back to simulation theory. Fronk: That's where I, that, yeah. Prove to me that it's even physical and then maybe I'll consider whether, the shape is round or flat. Dave: Let's talk about curves. Fronk: Right. All right. Let's talk about the voluminous crevices and curves that our mother Earth provides. Right. The idea of a flat [00:27:00] earth stems from a number of viewpoints, and the most fundamental is to rely on one's own sense, to determine the true nature of one's surroundings. The world appears flat. Clouds, bottoms look like they're flat. Water looks like it's flat, and the sun moves. The stars are always the same positioned exactly how they always were, and all of these sensory cues indicate that we do, in fact, live on a flat. Dave: I'm not an astrophysicist and I'm not a  Fronk: Are you  sure?  Dave: Maybe, maybe, maybe in my other existence, the 500 of 'em. I'm a failed astrophysicist, but I do have a telescope and I've had it for quite some time and I'm pretty good with it. And it's Fronk: the fuck? Dave: eh, the stars not moving. I know that there's a difference between absolute, uh, motion. A difference between [00:28:00] relative motion, and I'm pretty sure that the way that the stars move, but their whole argument is, is that since everything's spinning at astronomical speeds every night, we would see different stars because we're just whipping around and seeing different things. So why are the stars the same? And it does get you thinking, well, why are the stars the same? Well, I'm not a professional astronomer, so I can't really explain that. But I would say it has something to do with relative motion where everything's moving in conjunction instead of just this vortex of insane speeds..  Fronk: In my peanut globetard brain, I'm more so thinking the speed of light and how long it actually takes for the light from the stars that we're seeing to travel here. I mean, yeah, we've been seeing the same stars for thousands and thousands and thousands of years, but at what point were those stars emitting that light? How long have those stars been dead for, and how long is it gonna take for us to see new stars again? [00:29:00] I can't answer any of those questions for you, but I'm pretty sure that's. Dave: Valid point. Mike: Also in the grand scheme of time, humanity has been around a fucking blink in universal time. again to Fronk's point here, we're seeing the same stars because we're living 80 years and that's it. As opposed to the billions and billions and billions of years that the universe has existed and that that light has traveled and those stars have either been born, exploded, died, and disappeared. , we're seeing nothing, nothing. Dave: Well, that goes back to you being an insignificant being and that being suppressed. There's that argument. We'll have that later. We'll fight about it. Mike: there, there won't be an argument. We are insignificant beings.  Even if you took it back to a creationist argument, we are fucking insignificant. We are insignificant, we're [00:30:00] nothing. If we were something we would still commune with Gods, we would still commune with universal spirits. We would be. Something more than fucking meat sacks traveling through the world going, oh, I wonder what job I'm gonna have next, that I'm gonna work fucking 40 hours a week at and pull in a menial salary and take care of my 5.2 fucking kids, and then eventually retire at the ripe old age of 70 years old. And that's my life. How special am I Dave: Well, that's the system that you're locked in. Mike: system or not? Even if I had no job, even if I was just wandering, enjoying my life, going to these wonderful, exotic places, just doing everything that I wanted to do. At the end of it all 70 to 80 years, that's what I get. That's fucking it. in those 70 to 80 years, when am I seeing God? When am I [00:31:00] seeing a hint of any extraterrestrial, any, any extra dimensional, any religious, fucking spiritual guide? Anything. Anything.  when I'm not, fucked up on drugs, Dave: psychedelics. Fronk: God tier moment. Mike goes, have you ever given an ant food? Throw that bitch in there.  Dave: A lot of people see that as negative, and I don't really see it as negative that we're that insignificant. It's kind of the same argument that I make about the flight paths, which we'll quickly touch on is, well, the, the plane has to keep dipping down to keep going. Have you seen how small a plane is to how big the earth is? Mike: That's one thing that they don't understand is fucking perspective. You don't understand  perspective.  Dave: I'm glad you brought that up because what Frankie said a couple minutes ago about viewpoints perspective, seeing, if the clouds appear flat, water is flat, that's called using an empirical approach or an approach that relies on information [00:32:00] on your senses.  What's your feeble little human garbage eyes can see? And if you can't see the curve, then it doesn't exist. They use mathematics. I am. Stupid with math. The math is if the earth is round, there should be a degree of curvature, eight inches per mile squared. one mile would be eight inches, two miles, 32 inches, three miles, 72 inches, four miles, 128, and so on.  128 inches is about 10 feet of curvature. So that would be, four miles away now? 10 feet. A considerable amount when you're looking at a boat on. Water the water line to the top, say, let's say an aircraft carrier is probably 60 to 90 feet. You'd have to be at least around 20 miles to not just see the flight deck of that ship going over the horizon.  Then you got the whole, you got the bridge, you got everything else. You got all the radar you're probably looking at 120 feet at least to the top of, all of the structures on that ship. How many miles is that? . That's the thing. Another thing with the insignificance is [00:33:00] that we're tiny as fuck. Like how can we see anything? If you're five foot 10 and you're looking at something how far are you actually gonna see Mike: but what about the Zoom, Dave? What about the Zoom? Some of those cameras, they can zoom way, way, way, way in. They take those cameras and they zoom, zoom, zoom, and they go, well, that city is 150 miles away. There's no way that I should see it because of this curvature. And this camera is picking it up perfectly. So how do they work? Dave: I think they use the Chicago skyline for example. And I didn't do the experiment and look on Google Maps , and see the different distances, but you gotta remember the Sears Tower, whatever the fuck it's called now, it's like well over a thousand feet tall. and they're like, well, you can see the whole thing you. In those pictures that are shown as examples, you cannot see the entire Sears Tower. There is hundreds of feet of displacement in Chicago. Like New York has a [00:34:00] very tall fucking skyline. But you could still see those buildings and they're there, and on top of it, you're getting atmospheric disturbance. You're getting a layer of almost a mirage layer.  Mike: Dave was just going over the math of the entire situation, it's 67 feet per 10 miles. Now, before we move on, we have to mention that there are ball earthers or globes or globe tards that do argue that this equation is misused by flat earthers. And is the equation of calculating a parabola, not a full sphere. Dave: The guy who said that this is Misused was something that was found on the Michael Stata podcast and apparently himself and another guy that were on there, one was like an F 18 pilot, and then he's got certain hundreds and hundreds amount of hours as being a pilot. he had mentioned that the equation was misused and used the parabola as an example, that you're talking [00:35:00] about something like this instead of something that's a full circle even if you're talking about it on the curve, , it's still a parabola, even on that surface. Even though the equations are right and the math is right to calculate the curvature of the earth with its circumference that's known.  Might not be accurate. And uh, who did that? Aristophenes did that. And I know Flat Earthers is gonna say that guy didn't even fucking exist. which maybe he did, maybe he didn't. That was 2000 years ago. Who knows? Fronk: just to be fair to the flat earthers, right? We can't nitpick what false history we believe and don't, we do tend to say that history could have been falsified many times. If history has been erased at any point in time there is the possibility that this dude was made. Mike: using this model, a person standing on a spherical surface with eyes five feet, 11 inches above the ground, can [00:36:00] hypothetically see the ground up to about three miles away, but a person at the top of the Eiffel Tower at 896 feet can see the ground up to 36.6 miles away. Dave: Well, they're higher in altitude, Mike: Mm-hmm. . Mm-hmm. . Mm-hmm.  Dave: but the argument is that you can't see using the calculation, you wouldn't be able to see because it's dipping. I think the argument is wrong, and I'm not a mathematician and I'm not good at math, but from what my I see is that almost like some of these people are seeing it smaller than what it is. I don't think they're really getting how big this thing is and how small we are. So even at a 900 feet, Yes, you can see almost 10 times as much in distance, but you're also almost a thousand feet in the air,  Mike: Again,  perspective.   Fronk: If the degree of the [00:37:00] curvature is found to be the same everywhere on earth's surface, and the surface is in fact large enough, the constant curvature demonstrates that the earth is a. Now what about water? James Underdown, executive Director for the Center for Inquiry, Los Angeles worked with the Independent Investigations Group, a nonprofit dedicated to investigating exceptional claims using scientific methods. A boat based target with horizontal stripes was used in one of these tests. Dave: He's quoted as saying we sent a boat out on the water, and the farther it goes, the more the stripes disappear. That was supposed to demonstrate the curvature of the planet, but most flat earthers disagreed generating considerable debate. The biggest reason for these arguments with flat earth, obviously it comes from flat Earth, Dave(David Weiss), and it's all about perspective, as we said. The ground would never obscure distant objects on a flat earth. It should be possible to see all the way to the edge of the [00:38:00] world, right? That is the question that we would be asking. The answer we get is the atmosphere is opaque. Now, using the vernacular atmosphere is almost a conundrum in itself, and you ask, well, why did you use that? Well, we don't have another word for it.  Mike: Why not just make up a word like you fucking make up your own beliefs?  Just fucking do it. Just do it. . Make up a new word. It's very easy. It's done every day.   [00:39:00] Ad break [00:40:00]    Mike: Let's move on to another major fight in this, the position of the sun, sunrise and sunset. In case you were wondering, the sun is always above the Earth's surface in both models, Yet in the flat model, it travels in circles around the Earth's north pole, which is also, its. The seasons are caused by the expansion [00:41:00] and contraction of these circles. What about latitude?  Dave: What about latitude? I mean,  that would  Mike: about latitude  Dave: right? Mike: Hmm. Dave: The largest circumference of latitude on this planet would be the equator. Correct?  Mike: Yep. Dave: And then you have the tropic cancer and the tropic of Capricorn. The midpoints. I don't know that seems pretty, easy to explain. Maybe I'm just stupid. Could  be,  Mike: Globetard Dave: yeah. Fronk: Fucking idiot. Do some research Mike: Look into it. Fronk: where, show me where, show me where I could read about this that isn't on the app.  Mike: In the Bible, Fronk: Oh, yeah. Okay. Okay. All right. Here we go with the fucking Bible again. Mike: and books from the  17 hundreds  Fronk: They considered the sun to be much closer than 93 million miles and possibly even as far as 3000 miles or as close as 300 miles and moves in a circle or a helix pattern because the earth is supposedly accelerating upward, obviously toward the sun [00:42:00] at 9.8 meters per second because they don't believe in gravity, and that explains gravity away. with that being said, the sun must also be accelerating in the same direction as this hypothetical earth vortex. Make sense? You guys got that? Dave: instead of us spinning with things spinning around us and us spinning around something else and then that spinning around something else, which is relative there's a really big graphic that's always shown on every documentary, every video, and it's like the sun being shot out of a. With everything else just like around it, it looks like a DNA strand, most globe tards, know that that's not how motion works with celestial bodies. that one got me and always gets me, is every time that's shown. I'm like, oh God.  Fronk: other astronomical bodies moving in such a pattern? We have like really high powered telescopes Mike: Because space is not real.  Fronk: [00:43:00] Oh, shit. I forgot. I'm, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. You got me.  Okay. All right. All right. Right. All right. Dave: no space. No space. We have to remember that throughout this whole episode, there's no space. Fronk: Yes. Yes. Mike: if you take space out of the equation, introduce God in the Bible, and just ignore all known fucking science for the past like 300 years, you can be a flat earther. Fronk: wait is it no space or it's just the sun and the moon and the earth, or , is it None of that and it's just plain earth with our spinning moon, sun clock sort of thing happening, Which one is it? Do flat earthers believe either the barrel bore theory or the plate theory? Dave: Everything's contained in a system. Fronk: It's one in the same Dave: and everything above us is, I guess, the abyss, because there's a lot of arguments that, like with this Artemis program, whether it's fake or not, we'll talk about NASA in a little bit, but whether it's fake or not, Rockets [00:44:00] don't work in a vacuum apparently. but they're actually using, their own inertia to move in a vacuum. But I guess things don't work that way according to some. That brings us to sunrise and sunset. I don't want to get too far into this cuz this can take hours and hours and hours to argue about, let's talk about sunrise and sunset real quick.  Fronk: Unlike a bunch of these other points, the day and night cycles are actually kind of easily explained on a flat plane. The sun theoretically would move in circles above the North Pole. Or around the North Pole, and when it's over your head, it's day, and when it's not, it's nighttime. The light of the sun is then confined to a limited area on the earth, right? Because it's right above you. This claim never held any weight for me in particular because it can be debunked with science.  On top of this, all of the planets and stars aren't actually what they appear to be like [00:45:00] big rock balls in space or giant balls of gas, but they're actually luminaries. Yet. We also hear a lot of people say, well, we don't know what they. Dave: Stars and planets are one of the biggest things that cannot be explained yet. We can explain them with telescopes. We've been talking a lot about movement. We have to talk about heliocentric model, which is the one that we supposedly live in and not the geocentric model, which is the one that flat earthers live in. When we are confronted with the question of how the earth is able to orbit the sun, and it's not a sphere it's pretty simple. The earth actually doesn't orbit the sun, as we've been saying. This is so, because instead of the sun being the center of our solar system, our planet is actually the center of our solar system or controlled environment. Mike: In reality, we have Helio Centrism, also known as the Heliocentric Model. It's the astronomical model in which the earth and planets revolve around the sun at the center historically, [00:46:00] Helio Centrism was opposed to geo centrism, which placed the earth at the center. now we've hit the firmament. Fronk: In the cosmology of the flat earth. The disc shaped planet is covered by a dome whose edges stopped just beyond the roughly 145 foot high ice wall of Antarctica. And these stars are fixed on this dome while the sun and moon, which are only about 31 miles in diameter, revolve about a 3,100 miles above the earth. Dave: Now, as we said before in biblical cosmology, the firmament is a vast, solid dome or semi solid dome created by God during his creation in the first six days To divide the primal sea into upper and lower portions so that the dry land could appear, which surrounds the earth or frozen water, I've heard this a lot with the biblical cosmology stuff, is that it's explained during day one, day two, day three, and they even say in the Bible, God created the firmament. I [00:47:00] believe it's on ver bran's headstone, as we've mentioned previously. I think it's a lot of wordplay and interpretation,  Mike: We also mentioned back in Hollow Moon, if you've listened to that episode about the Zulu tribe, where the firmament or atmosphere rained down to earth.  Our flat earthers saying that the sky is liquid possibly. Clearly, we know that the Earth's atmosphere is 78% nitrogen, 21% oxygen, 0.9% argon and 0.1% of other gases. Dave: Now, quickly, recently, I've heard a lot of arguments in quite a few different shows and videos not just one proponent, but multiple proponents on this theory. And a lot of 'em will say, well, the atmosphere itself is just a different version of water as it is up in space, a whole different version of water. Because they use the example of if you go to the deep oceans or certain lakes, there's different [00:48:00] salinities of water. You'll have heavier water on the bottom, different pockets of water. the atmosphere works the same way and they say, because it has the same elements in it. Now, if our atmosphere is made up of 78% nitrogen, 21% oxygen, yes, there's hydrogen in that, because if we need water, we need H two O, which does happen in the atmosphere, Fronk: shit. That's why they sent U-boats to space it's water. Dave: oh. Fronk: Oh, Dave: That's it.  You got me.  Mike: done. We're done.    Final thoughts, boys? Fronk: Thank you Hushlings. Dave: Yeah, that's it. Mike: Okay, so we're talking about the firmament currently. Now I just want everyone to know the actual definition of a firmament. So the firmament is the vault or arch of the sky. The firmament isn't necessarily something that is physical. It is something that is viewed. the [00:49:00] arch from one horizon to the other is the sky. That is the firmament. So when everybody's saying, oh, firmament, they're talking about the firmament, they're talking about something that's physically there. No, that's a viewpoint. The firmament refers to horizon. To horizon. The arch of the sky as you see it from one end of your viewpoint to the other Dave: Makes sense. There's a lot of that too, where it said that you're, uh, you have a personal viewing bubble and I think that's misinterpreted as what you're actually, what you can see you go up a 1500 foot mountain, you look around, you can see 360 degrees.  Mike: that's your firmament. Dave: that's your firmament. Fronk: One bar from Suicide Boy's last album. One of them goes Dome. So good. I think she think the earth is flat mouth like the fucking firmament. She got my eyes rolling back. There you go.  Mike: it says it all. Fronk: [00:50:00] It says it all, it says it all your, your mouth has a firmament. Mike: Show me what that firmament do. Fronk: land ho. We have hit the ice walls and the absence of the poles along the edge of our local area exists a massive 150 foot ice wall. This ice wall is on the coast of Antarctica, and The wall is absolutely gargantuan, made up of solid water, ice that surrounds our world and holds our world's oceans in.   And the South Pole does not exist, whereas the North Pole is just a giant mountain called a hyperly that you can't visit. Dave: The ice walls were discovered by Sir James Clark, who was a British naval officer and polar explorer who was amongst the first adventure to Antarctica in an attempt to determine the position of the south magnetic pole between 1768 and 1779. [00:51:00] Upon confronting the massive vertical front of ice heat famously remarked. Mike: "It was an obstruction of such character as to leave no doubt in my mind as to our future proceedings for we might as well sail through the Cliffs of Dover as to penetrate such a mass. That's what she said. It would be impossible to conceive a more solid looking mass of ice. Not the smallest appearance of any rent or fisher. Could we discover throughout the whole of its extent and the intensely bright sky beyond it, but too plainly indicated. The great distance to which it wreaths, southward " Dave: apparently it took him three years or so to do one of the journeys and he circumnavigated the globe at 77,000 miles. what if he did it three times and did [00:52:00] 77,000 miles? That's the one thing that I've always thought is that, was it one trip  Fronk: And he just didn't know Mike: But again, in the 18 hundreds, let's say that this guy goes and he encounters an ice shelf, would he not think that was an ice wall? Dave: yeah, Fronk: like, oh shit. Well this is the edge of the world I suppose. Mike: there's no going past this. My ship can't go through that. Dave: I mean, yeah, that would be logical. Mike: I think this is what we said in the first one, a lot of these arguments for a flat earth revert back to like this 18 hundreds knowledge. Let's look at this book from the 18 hundreds. Look, they mentioned the firmament. Let's look at this. they talk about ice stones and blah, blah, blah. Fronk: The future is a lie. . The truth lies in the 18 hundreds. Reject modernity, Now all of this would of course, imply that Antarctica isn't at all what they say. And we've [00:53:00] mentioned this quite a bit about the Antarctic treaty already and the Antarctic bases and all of the secrets that they hide and you can't go there. You're not allowed There. Only scientists. Yeah. That's where they're hiding the edge of the.  Dave: Let's board a plane real quick and try to go to Antarctica. I know we say we can get there by ship, but two major arguments about airplanes with the flat earth theory is one, there's no round trip flights to Antarctica. And I think we covered this briefly in our first one where we had said, Antarctica fucking sucks. And that's probably why there's no round trip flights and how a lot of the Southern Hemisphere flights cannot be explained. And I believe we went over that a lot in our first episode. And I still stick by all of what I thought about that. Now, the other question that comes up with this theory  one, can you see curve in a commercial aircraft? And two, the aircraft always has to be pitching nose down after a [00:54:00] certain amount of time. Those two arguments come up major in this theory. So I wanna get your thoughts on do planes always have to tip downward as you're flying? Cuz you've all been on flights before, Fronk: No, the plane isn't nose diving or it doesn't feel like it anyway. It doesn't seem like it's nose diving by any means. Dave: but you would feel it. You can feel drop in altitude when you're starting to descend and you feel that, whew, almost that weird weightlessness when they drop a couple hundred feet or a thousand feet pretty quickly. You can feel turbulence, obviously. , I don't think that it necessarily pitches downward after a certain distance because I think, like I said earlier, planes are tiny and the earth is huge. So I don't think there's that much effect of a plane having to move when it's floating on top of a surface of air. Fronk: If a plane pitched downwards while at like max [00:55:00] altitude, wouldn't it just start losing altitude? Wouldn't you just be going towards the ground or am I being peanut brained? Dave: If planes were going in the straight path following the Earth's curve, then they would fly off into space. That's what they say. And I think it's simpler than that. Planes fly in a certain area from 35,000 to 50,000 feet, especially commercial aircraft in a certain layer of air that's thinnest. Which is why they can move as fast as they can, but I don't believe that they're pitching because they're so tiny that everything is going to appear flat at 35,000 feet cuz the earth is so big. Mike: , they're maintaining a certain altitude from the ground, so they're not pitching anything. They're just going with the natural atmosphere of the earth. Dave: Gravity.  Mike: Yeah.    Dave: The plane thing never, never made too much sense to me, especially with the flying off into space. If you didn't compensate for curvature, it's because the Plains Center [00:56:00] mass is always perpendicular with the ground and the plane is so insignificantly small. That you will not notice those changes. You notice left and right banks on planes, , you take a direction moving towards another city, you see it, you feel the whole plane go and you're looking towards the ground. If you're ascending, you feel that inertia you're getting pulled up into the air, especially on takeoffs. Or if you're descending, you feel that, oh, the pilot goes, we're gonna be descending in a couple minutes, and all of a sudden you feel that that drop, you feel that motion left, right, and vertical but you don't feel those nudges that they say that they're doing. So I don't think that that happens. I just think the center mass of that plane is fighting against gravity to keep it up. It's a boat in the sky. Mike: even if they did, that's a continuous compensation. So it's not like they're flying a certain distance and then going, oh, well I'm eight inches above where I was before. I need to adjust. Even if that was the truth, they would just make manual [00:57:00] adjustments as they went. So over that period of time, a half inch, a quarter inch, whatever you wouldn't even be able to tell in the first place if that was the case. Fronk: And that would only be if you were flying like across the world. I'm sure it's even less so if you're flying from somewhere on the east coast down to like Minnesota or something, it's gonna be even less noticeable if you're traveling somewhere that local. Dave: You're only traveling a couple hundred miles. Fronk: Yeah, exactly. Mike: I'm sure the figures are out there, but how many flat earthers are from America versus from the rest of the world? Dave: Good question. Mike: just wondering. Dave: I don't know the answer to that. I would say there's a lot in America. America is a very conspiracy driven country at the moment, and flat earth boils down to every other conspiracy. If you believe wholeheartedly in this, you believe everything else, the lies, everything is fake. Your entire [00:58:00] existence is fake. that's from what I get Fronk: That sucks. And then, and then from that point where do they go with that? They yell at other people about it or We're gonna briefly go over the eclipse aspect of flat earth theory. Now, we all obviously know what eclipses are. That's when the moon aligns with the sun and the earth and blocks out the sun. You know the deal. and remember that the moon is 400 times smaller than the sun. It's also about 400 times closer to the earth than the sun is. Is that coincidence that this astronomical phenomenon happens? Uh, Dave: Well, I can tell you from the flat earth side that that is almost impossible.  Mike: It's pretty impossible either way. Like it's pretty coincidental. I will give it to them that when you're talking about the sun and the moon being these like perfect distances and these perfect sizes and these per that's intriguing to say the least. I will give them. Dave: Which we did go over[00:59:00] Hollow moon theory if the moon was placed here, it was placed here on purpose, but then that would give weight to some type of, maybe not creationism, but some type of external control or external observation, which I think all of us are on the fence with that.  That could be, it could not be, Mike: Again, prove to me that any of this is real Dave: So there's two types of eclipses. There's solar and lunar eclipses. Now, the way solar eclipses work is that the moon orbits in between the sun and the earth. And when that occurs, obviously the moon blocks out the sunlight. You see the corona bought a bing. You have a solar eclipse, and the moon also casts a shadow on the earth. Now, a lot of the times it's told that the moon can't cast this little tiny pin prick shadow that goes across the earth. But if the moon is relatively 200,000 miles away, why couldn't it?  Mike: According to flat Earth theorists, this astronomical phenomenon is [01:00:00] actually a glimpse of a mysterious shadow object that orbits the sun and occasionally passes in front of the moon. From our point of view, could it be planet X Nibiru? No. This object is known as the anti moon. That's new Dave: another random object in our solar system. We could go on and on about eclipses, but we have to talk about one of the biggest fallacies of our education system. Gravity, Mike: not real. Dave: not real. Now, one of the most well agreed upon theories is general relativity. And it is the theory of gravitation developed by our boy Albert Einstein, who was apparently a conman according to flat earthers. And between 1907 and 1915, he figured all this out. The theory of general relativity says that an observe gravitational effect between masses results from their warping of space time. Gravity is still just a theory to us. I guess we can all be on the fence [01:01:00] on it cause we really don't get it. And I think scientists have , admitted that they don't get it,  Mike: Well, didn't recently they say that they had to like rework that entire thought process for some discovery that they had found that the theory of relativity had to be, had to be rethought or it was not necessarily wrong entirely, but partially, I guess., it had to do with the way that a black hole was working, where for the first time they saw a star coming out of a black hole. Fronk: Yeah, I saw that it was being regurgitated. They saw light coming out of a black hole. That's right. Mike: Things are happening, man. Whether you believe in space or not, it's. Pretty wild. Fronk: Newton's love gravitation states every point Mass attracts every single other point mass by a force acting along the line intersecting both points. I don't know what that means. The force is proportional to the product of the two [01:02:00] masses and inversely proportional to the square of the distance between them. Exactly. That's what I've been saying this whole Mike: Sounds about right. Thanks boys. Well, what is gravity? According to this theory, it's stated that the earth isn't pulled into a sphere because the force known as gravity exists in a greatly diminished form compared to what is commonly taught, which is that we're being pulled down to the center of the earth while. The flat Earth is constantly accelerating up at a rate of 32 feet per second squared or 9.8 meters per second squared. As we had previously mentioned, this constant acceleration causes what you think of as gravity, but it's actually caused by a universal accelerator known as dark energy or Etheric wind. Never heard of Etheric wind. That's interesting, Fronk: time's that post Taco Bell shit's my etheric wind. Dave: [01:03:00] Furthermore with this we hear words like density and buoyancy a lot in these theories arguments, which is why things fall to the ground that are heavier and explains rockets, which are thought to actually be filled with helium and have a pyrotechnic show. that proves that all things fall at 9.8 meters squared.   Dave: All right boys, we're getting towards the end of our flat earth expedition here. But we have to go back in the sky. That brings us to rockets and satellites. As we just mentioned. Proponents of flat earth theory believe that satellites totally exist, but cannot be seen from the ground and are actually held in the atmosphere by helium balloons. Hence why NASA is the largest consumer of helium and they sometimes crash into the planet, which we call them weather balloons. And I guess that would explain the weather balloon phenomenon.  Fronk: Satellites in low earth orbit are constantly fighting gravity. According to science, some are geographically fixed and keep their [01:04:00] orbit by balancing two factors, their velocity, which is the speed required to travel in a straight line and their gravitational pull to the earth. To resist the stronger gravitational pole, a satellite orbiting closer to the earth requires more velocity. And of course, we're not going to get out of this debriefing without a little bit of NASA sprinkled in that bitch. Mike: Yes, good old nasa, our friends over there, professional cgi. It's widely assumed that humans have never left the Earth's atmosphere. In fact, we've never left earth and entered space because we lack the ability to do so in the first place unless you're a Nazi and a U-boat. Most of what society has been taught about space is completely made up or greatly exaggerated. By the government and or the elites. There's also the claim that humans have never landed on the moon. I'm with that, and that the infamous moon landings witnessed by the entire world in [01:05:00] 1969 were a sham. Fronk: Okay. I'll give them that. A major claim is that any pictures from the Apollo 11 mission that show that our planet as a sphere in the distance were fabricated by the government and nasa and NASA's mission is not to hide the shape of the earth or trick people into thinking it's round or anything else of the sort. Dave: Well, that's what NASA says, right?  We obviously know that there's some type of space travel conspiracy, whether it's more advanced or it doesn't exist. Possibly Nasa's mission is to create the illusion of space travel in order to, cover for the military, and their dominance in space. One thing we forgot to mention that I thought of real quick when you guys were talking is the quick notion on gravity. There's a lot of flat earthers that will say, well, can you jump, when you jump off the earth, you a hundred, 200 pound person jumping off the earth. Do you come back [01:06:00] down? And was it easy to jump? Then why is gravity so strong? Fronk: that's the whole argument of like, why does Gravity hold our planet's, oceans On  Dave: Yeah. Yeah. If it can  hold all this water and all this mass,  why can you jump off your roof and hit the ground? Mike: Because there is a different pull depending on the mass of the object.  Dave: Mike wins a gold star Fronk: gold sticker for you. Mike: boys, let's get into our final thoughts. Everything that was on Reddit, we've been through, we've done this whole thing. I wanna know the final thoughts as we get into stage two of becoming a flat earth. are we now believing that gravity is not real? The sun is a, lamp and uh, and we live on a flat plain, surrounded by an ice wall. Dave, are you a flat earther? Dave: No. sadly, I am not a flat earther. I think it's an [01:07:00] interesting theory that opens up a lot of more conspiracies and there are some valid questions, but I think a lot of it has to do with our lack of actually being able to see things because we are restricted beings. Uh, the one thing about flat earth theory that I find really fascinating is the suppression of information, the hidden things. And I think that's the conspiratorial part that really pulls me, believing that it is a different shape or an infinite plane or a snow globe, or, flatterers is gonna get so mad at me for saying that because we don't believe it's a snow globe. It doesn't look like a pancake. They all have different theories and a lot of it goes back to religion. A lot of it goes to creationism. A lot of it goes back to every other conspiracy you've ever heard of. So for me, still, I still think we live on a planet. the definition of planet is what we live on. Is it a perfect sphere? I think that's proven that it's not a perfect sphere.[01:08:00] I'm not a scientist, but I've done research and research and research and supposedly it takes up to two weeks or so to become a flat earth. I've been doing this research since like the end of July, and I'm still not convinced. wanted to give it a fair shake. Didn't wanna be a douche bag. Would invite any flat earth to come on and talk to us. We'd love to have you on, but You didn't get me yet. Mike: I will take my final thoughts, a complete left turn here. I don't care. I don't care whether it's a giant paella pan or if we live on a dodge ball. I, I don't care. I don't care. Maybe it's the blue pilled part of my brain that still exists. I don't give a shit. It doesn't change anything. I'm still gonna wake up in the morning and have to go to work, have to pay my taxes, and eventually I'm gonna fucking die. That's just the way that it is. I don't care if we live on a flat plane, I don't care if we live on a globe. It's just the way that [01:09:00] it is. but I don't think that we live on a fly plane. I'm just gonna say that I don't think that I, I do think that there is a lot of cover up of our former history. That much I believe is true. I do believe that NASA is filled with a bunch of liars and they do fabricate things including, setting up these videos where they're watching astronauts float around, but the water stays in a cup. That's an interesting one. , I do think that they do composite images together and they are a bunch of liars that I completely agree with. . I love you whether you're a flat earth or not, but no, it's a no for me. Fran, give us your final thoughts. Did you become a flat earther in this episode?   Fronk: No, I didn't. , I'm not gonna go off on a limb and say that I tried to give flat earth theory, the benefit of [01:10:00] the doubt, but I tried to stay open-ended, especially towards like the beginning of the episode. I was just trying to like see it from both sides and I still do to an extent. And you're right in saying that their best argument is the space shit and nasa, but, that can't be all you're going off of here, because that, lends to so much other shit besides just the shape of the planet.  And not only that, if you're like sold on the shape of the planet, then you've been deceived. You know what, I'm gonna pull a flirter and tell you what you've been taught on. The internet is wrong, and it's all code. You've been tricked into thinking that what we live on is physical and that it has shape. There is no shape. I've never even been out of the country. You can't even convince me that Australia's real, let alone the, the, the fucking shape of the  Mike: you're partial flat earther because they don't believe that Australia is real either. Fronk: [01:11:00] Oh, no. Australia's not real Mike: listen, if you're in Australia and you, uh, you live there full time, reach out to us. Send us an email. Even better a voicemail, because I just want to hear the accent. Send us a voicemail and say, Hey, yeah, I exist. I'm here. This is a real place. Dave: Clearly they exist. They're number three on our Spotify Mike: That's right. Thanks Australia. Fronk: No, I, I never tried to doubt Australia. It was a metaphor, but Dave: Our Hustralians down under, Mike: That's hilarious. Dave: , if we offended you we're sorry. Well, I partially am. Mike: I, I, listen, I tried this episode. I think that I was better than the first episode. I didn't sit there and say anybody was an idiot or any of that stuff. like I said, you believe what you wanna believe, but on, at the end of the day, I don't think that it really matters. Fronk: And if it makes you feel [01:12:00] special, by all means,

Welcome to episode 59 where I am joined by Ryan from Dangerous World Podcast and Mike, Fronk, and Dave from Hush Hush Society Conspiracy Hour. In typical MasterDebater form we were all over the place from flat earth vs round polarization, tonsil stones, high school is useless, cursive being phased out, AI Chat Bot, Scrambled P0rn, Creepy Gym Teachers, Hypersexualization of ‘teenage' girls in 1980s/90s tv, demolition of the multi-generation home, societal expectations, debt slavery, What Not app, Nostalgia of Toys, and more! Please leave a review and share the show! Please support the great guests at: Mike, Dave, Fronk From Hush Hush Society Conspiracy Hour https://www.hushhushsociety.com https://www.instagram.com/hhsconspiracyhourpod/ Ryan from Dangerous World Podcast Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/DangerousWorldPodcast/posts IG: @dangerousworldpod Merch: https://dangerousworldstore.com/ Mat from The Great Deception Podcast Linktree: https://linktr.ee/thegreatdeceptionpodcast IG: https://www.instagram.com/thegreatdeceptionpodcast/ To Make Contributions: Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thegreatdeceptionpodcast Merch: https://my-store-cb4b4e.creator-spring.com --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/the-great-deception-podcast/support

Welcome to season 7 of Hush Hush Society Conspiracy Hour!   Let's check in for a psyche evaluation at The Tavistock Institute. This UK based group started at the beginning of World War 1 and may be responsible for our very way of life. Did this collective group of social engineers create our workplace culture, television and movies we watch, products we purchase or even form The Beatles? Deep dive into this UK think tank with us to kick off the new season with a bang.   If you have any questions or topics you'd like to see the society cover, please reach out at Contact@hushhushsociety.com   You can find all our audio, blogs and drop sweet ratings at www.hushhushsociety.com Find our Video Content on our Rokfin Leave us a review on Apple, our website, Podchaser or GoodPods You can grab Hush Hush merch and help support the show on Patreon Link up with the society on social media:   Facebook   Instagram   Twitter    Join our Discord and chat with us

For the first time ever Unexplained Inc. went live on it's Facebook page on Sunday October 30, 2022...it can now be heard as a full episode for those who missed it putting a bookend on spooky season for another year!We welcome back:Mystery MikeDeclassified DaveSlick Fronk SandersThese individuals make up the enthralling podcast Hush Hush Society Conspiracy Hour. You can listen to their show right here:https://www.podchaser.com/podcasts/hush-hush-society-conspiracy-h-1369558In this special livestream here are some of the topics discussed:- The 'hidden' history or agenda behind Halloween- Do spirits and entities harvest our consciousness when the veil is thin?- Their interview with David Icke- David Icke's thoughts on the origins of Halloween- Strangest items received while trick or treating- a breakdown of the classic tv show "The-X Files"- a shout-out to honourable mention 'Millenium'- How did we end up discussing the tag team of Jesse 'The Body' Ventura & Alex Trebek...WTAF???Plus:- A throwback clip when Hush Hush appeared on the show in May 2021.- Various updates from Phantom Phil in the outroFB: Unexplained Inc.IG: unexplained_inc.IG: phantom_phil_unexplainedTwitter: @phantom_phil3

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Huge shout out to Psychostick for letting us feature their epic rendition of "Danger Zone" and all its explosive wonder. Check our their current tour schedule and their new album "...and stuff" available now!In today's episode, we ask ourselves a simple question: "How Would Sean Bean Have Died" in 1986's American action drama film, Top Gun. I am joined by the entire team from the Hush Hush Society Conspiracy Hour podcast, Mystery Mike, Declassified Dave and Slick Fronk Sanders.Subscribe to these guys right now and listen to all their episodes here - https://www.hushhushsociety.com - Also, check out their Facebook Live show coming up on June 6th at 7pm EST.Join On Second Watch as we explore what role would be perfect for Sean Bean to play (Lead, Supporting, or Cameo) and share our take on how that character would ultimately meet his demise.----------*NEW* Become a member exclusively on Ko-fi for as little as $1 per month. Access to our personal Discord server, Ad-free RSS feed, merch, and more awaits! Join today - https://ko-fi.com/movie/tiers -----------If you'd like to join us on future episodes of HWSBHD, support us on Ko-fi and we'll schedule a recording with you - www.ko-fi.com/movie -Request a personalized shout out - https://ko-fi.com/movie -Commission a movie review of your choice! - https://ko-fi.com/movie/commissions -Check out all our episodes and subscribe – www.oswpodcast.com -Twitter – www.twitter.com/oswpodcast1 -Facebook – www.facebook.com/oswpodcast -Instagram – www.instagram.com/oswpodcast -Psychostick. “Danger Zone.” Revenge of the Vengence, 2014, psychostick.com. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

The boys are joined by special guest Mystery Mike of the Hush Hush Society Conspiracy Hour podcast for a deep dive episode on chemist and spymaster Sidney Gottlieb and the groovy good time he ushered in to the CIA with MK-ULTRA, Project BLUEBIRD, and more.

(Part 1 of 2) Today we are joined by Declassified Dave of the Hush Hush Society Conspiracy Hour as we head over the pond to Suffolk England to discuss the best documented UFO incident in history. In December of 1980, the NATO bases of RAF Bentwaters and RAF Woodbridge were being used by the US Airforce when a UFO landed in the forest outside of the east gate. On this episode we discuss the first hand stories of those that investigated the craft and the coverup by the US Department of Defense and the British Ministry of Defense. What was it? Who was driving? We go deep into the Rabbit Hole in this one! Stay tuned next week for part 2, and of course welcome back to Infinite Rabbit Hole! InfiniteRabbitHole.com All links for the Hush Hush Society Conspiracy Hour available at HushHushSociety.com SOURCES: Book: The Rendlesham Forest UFO by George Dudding Book: Encounter in Rendlesham Forest by Nick Pope, John Burroughs, and Jim Penniston --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/infiniterabbithole/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/infiniterabbithole/support

Are you ready to load into the matrix? Do we exist or are we all part of a complex computer program? Welcome to the premier of season 4 of the Hush Hush Society Conspiracy Hour! Your preceptors explore the science and belief behind this extremely complex conspiracy theory based on fringe science.  If you have any questions or topics you'd like to see the society cover, please reach out at Contact@hushhushsociety.com You can find all our audio, blogs and drop sweet ratings at www.hushhushsociety.com Leave us a review on Apple, our website, Podchaser or GoodPods Find Hush Hush Society Merch Link up with the society on social media: Facebook Instagram Twitter 

Journey with us to Japan, to the base of Mount Fuji. There lies the Aokigahara Forest otherwise known as the Suicide Forest or the Sea of Trees. Subscribe to Hush Hush on Apple - https://apple.co/3j6JoX1Subscribe on iHeart - https://ihr.fm/2OTWMRXSubscribe everywhere else - https://bit.ly/3sDE00MThis forest has been the site of hundreds of suicides over the years. Could this be the work of demonic entities, vengeful ghosts or just the serene setting of the lush sea of trees as a final resting place? Explore the forest and leave your trail marker behind.Follow on Social Mediahttps://twitter.com/HHSConspiracyhttps://www.facebook.com/groups/hushhushsocietyconspiracyhour/https://www.instagram.com/hhsconspiracyhour/~~~~~~~~~~~Indie Drop-InAll content legally licensed from the original creator. Thank you to Hush Hush Society Conspiracy Hour for the great episode. You can find Indie Drop-In at https://indiedropin.comHelp Indie Drop-In support indie creators by buying us a coffee!https://buymeacoffee.com/indiedropinBrands can advertise on Indie Drop-In using Patreonhttps://patreon.com/indiedropin Twitter: https://twitter.com/indiedropinInstagram: https://instagram.com/indiedropinFacebook: https://facebook.com/indiedropinAny advertising found in this episode is inserted by Indie Drop-In and not endorsed by the Creator.If you would like to have your show featured go to http://indiedropin.com/creators~~~~~~~~~~~

Journey with us to Japan, to the base of Mount Fuji. There lies the Aokigahara Forest otherwise known as the Suicide Forest or the Sea of Trees. Subscribe to Hush Hush on Apple - https://apple.co/3j6JoX1Subscribe on iHeart - https://ihr.fm/2OTWMRXSubscribe everywhere else - https://bit.ly/3sDE00MThis forest has been the site of hundreds of suicides over the years. Could this be the work of demonic entities, vengeful ghosts or just the serene setting of the lush sea of trees as a final resting place? Explore the forest and leave your trail marker behind.Follow on Social Mediahttps://twitter.com/HHSConspiracyhttps://www.facebook.com/groups/hushhushsocietyconspiracyhour/https://www.instagram.com/hhsconspiracyhour/~~~~~~~~~~~Indie Drop-InAll content legally licensed from the original creator. Thank you to Hush Hush Society Conspiracy Hour for the great episode. You can find Indie Drop-In at https://indiedropin.comHelp Indie Drop-In support indie creators by buying us a coffee!https://buymeacoffee.com/indiedropinBrands can advertise on Indie Drop-In using Patreonhttps://patreon.com/indiedropin Twitter: https://twitter.com/indiedropinInstagram: https://instagram.com/indiedropinFacebook: https://facebook.com/indiedropinAny advertising found in this episode is inserted by Indie Drop-In and not endorsed by the Creator.If you would like to have your show featured go to http://indiedropin.com/creators~~~~~~~~~~~

Journey with us to Japan, to the base of Mount Fuji. There lies the Aokigahara Forest otherwise known as the Suicide Forest or the Sea of Trees. Subscribe to Hush Hush on Apple - https://apple.co/3j6JoX1Subscribe on iHeart - https://ihr.fm/2OTWMRXSubscribe everywhere else - https://bit.ly/3sDE00MThis forest has been the site of hundreds of suicides over the years. Could this be the work of demonic entities, vengeful ghosts or just the serene setting of the lush sea of trees as a final resting place? Explore the forest and leave your trail marker behind.Follow on Social Mediahttps://twitter.com/HHSConspiracyhttps://www.facebook.com/groups/hushhushsocietyconspiracyhour/https://www.instagram.com/hhsconspiracyhour/~~~~~~~~~~~Indie Drop-InAll content legally licensed from the original creator. Thank you to Hush Hush Society Conspiracy Hour for the great episode. You can find Indie Drop-In at https://indiedropin.comHelp Indie Drop-In support indie creators by buying us a coffee!https://buymeacoffee.com/indiedropinBrands can advertise on Indie Drop-In using Patreonhttps://patreon.com/indiedropin Twitter: https://twitter.com/indiedropinInstagram: https://instagram.com/indiedropinFacebook: https://facebook.com/indiedropinAny advertising found in this episode is inserted by Indie Drop-In and not endorsed by the Creator.If you would like to have your show featured go to http://indiedropin.com/creators~~~~~~~~~~~

In today's episode, we ask ourselves a simple question: "How Would Sean Bean Have Died" in 2009's American post-apocalyptic zombie comedy film "Zombieland". We are joined by Mystery Mike from the podcast Hush Hush Society Conspiracy Hour. If you love a fun and insightful discussion on conspiracy theories, check them out! https://www.hushhushsociety.com/ Join On Second Watch as we explore what role would be perfect for Sean Bean to play (Lead, Supporting, or Cameo) and share our take on how that character would ultimately meet his demise.----------*NEW* Become a member exclusively on Ko-fi for as little as $1 per month. Access to our personal Discord server, Ad-free RSS feed, merch, and more awaits! Join today - https://ko-fi.com/movie/tiers----------If you'd like to join us on future episodes of HWSBHD, support us on Ko-fi and we'll schedule a recording with you - www.ko-fi.com/movieRequest a personalized shout out - https://ko-fi.com/movieCommission a movie review of your choice! - https://ko-fi.com/movie/commissionsCheck out all our episodes and subscribe – www.oswpodcast.com Twitter – www.twitter.com/oswpodcast1Facebook – www.facebook.com/oswpodcastInstagram – www.instagram.com/oswpodcast

Put your tray tables in an upright position and explore the mystery behind the hijacking of the Northwest Orient Airlines that departed from Portland International Airport on Thanksgiving eve of 1971. Strap on your parachute as we seek answers of how “Dan Cooper” leapt to an uncertain fate over southwestern Washington with $200,000 and disappeared off the face of the Earth. A manhunt and a 45-year-long FBI investigation followed with multiple suspects, yet his identity remains, unknown… Join the Hush Hush Society Conspiracy Hour for Debriefing 026 – DB Cooper Hijacking (2:42) Mike introduces us to all boarding procedures and our passenger in question; Dan “DB” Cooper. After claiming to have bomb by slipping a note to a flight attendant we discuss how the rest of the hijacking played out. (6:10) 10,000 unmarked 20-dollar bills were demanded by Cooper and delivered by the FBI in Seattle. (8:45) We question in Cooper had knowledge of the aviation industry or even military experience. We continue explaining the rest of the happenings of that evening. (10:15) At 10:15 PM DB Cooper “jumped” from the 727 aircraft. Shortly after the aircraft landed in Reno, NV. (12:30) Your Preceptors begin to lay out some things found during the immediate investigation after the heist, some of accounts from the flight crews' interviews. This included 66 fingerprints, sunglasses, what he ordered and his demeanor. (14:45) Dave fills us in to James Long, a local reporter who put the initials “DB” when running Dan Coopers name. Mystery Mike jumps in the investigation and we discuss many of the variables. (18:40) Fronk delivers the most important question. Did he actually jump out of the plane? Your flight crew continues on about 1972 Air Force tests and the contrasts of the environmental variables. The FBI investigation is also peered into. (25:40) We continue on about the FBI search, which was the most extensive law enforcement investigation in history. (28:09) Mike opens the file on some of the evidence from the investigation. He mentions some of the chemicals found on the tie, were also found in aircraft manufacturing plants. Remember someone could have just gone back to work since it was Thanksgiving. A discussion opens. (31:29) Fronk mentions the instructions from a Boeing 727 found in 1978 by a deer hunter, also in 1980 a boy named Brian Ingraham was at Tina Bar and found 3 packets of money, and was confirmed as DB Cooper ransom money. (34:23) Between 1971 and 2016 the FBI ran through over 1000 suspects. Your boys discuss some of the suspects that could have been DB Cooper, one of which was an almost identical crime committed by Richard McCoy. (37:30) Dwayne Weber was another suspect who claimed to be DB Cooper on his deathbed to his wife. Kenneth Christianson was also thought to be another suspect by his brother Lyle. (44:44) Beginning in the 70's and ending 2016 at the conclusion of the case, there are 60 volumes that measure 40 feet high when stacked and there have been no arrests and no evidence found. We discuss further. (47:17) We offer some in flight extra facts about the case. (48:18) Declassified Dave and Mystery Mike give us last call and deliver their final opinions on the DB Cooper heist. (50:03) Fronks Final Thoughts. featured: Serial Killer Tuesdays Podcast If you have any questions or comments about the show please contact us at: HushHushSociety@planetmail.com or via Twitter, Facebook & Instagram. For all listening platforms go to: www.hushhushsociety.com

This week, the Hush Hush Society Conspiracy Hour joins me in a discussion about the original UFO whistleblower Bob Lazar. We'll explore UFO's, S4, Element 115, Atlantis and more!-----Intro - 00:15Ads - 03:14 - Please visit our sponsors Awakened Vapes, Genesis Pharms, and the Caramel Corn Company and help support this podcast!Interview - 6:28-----Welcome back to Awakened Exchanges! I'm your host Jay Rich and we've got another disclosure-related episode for you this week! In a very special episode, we're actually teaming up with the Hush Hush Society's Conspiracy Hour to talk about the Bob Lazar Story! I'm so grateful that you keep joining us here for the exchange, but remember that if you have any suggestions for topics or guests though, I do listen to the listeners, so please email me from our website or contact me on twitter @AwakenExchanges. I hope you're as excited for this topic as I am! I'm going to try to keep this week's intro brief, but I want to thank the Hush Hush Society for coming onto the exchange and sharing this great conversation with me. On their normal Podcast they explore a lot of topics that I personally have dove into and found interesting; from their beginning talking about The Philadelphia Experiment and MK Ultra, through the assasnation of JFK and supposed suicide of Jeffrey Epstein, on into the aliens and Area 51 topic we cover on our show today. I hope that you get a chance to check out their show too, I think you'll enjoy yourself for sure, I know I did. As for today's topic, if you haven't heard the name Bob Lazar before, then you've probably not explored UFO Disclosure much before, as he was the original UFO Whistleblower. We'll get into his past as well as the things that people use to discredit him, but the more his story stays the same over the years, the more evidence starts to back him up. It's fascinating. Now, before we get to the show, here's a brief rundown of our sponsors. First off, I want to thank all of you personally for your support. Just listening and sharing this podcast with your friends gives me a reason to keep providing the best content that I can. If you have the means and would like to contribute personally, please take a look at our Patreon page where you will get access to exclusive content and deals! As for our other sponsors, Awakened Vapes was the first of the Awakened Brands, and has been helping you modulate your high with CBD-only, high-terpene vape products since 2019. Genesis Pharms has been making the highest-quality medicinal RSO, among many other fantastic products, starting with the medical community back before 2010. And, last but not least, the Caramel Corn Company; bringing you caramel corn the way it was meant to be!Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/AwakenedExchanges) --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/awakened-exchanges/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/awakened-exchanges/support

Mystery MikeDeclassified DaveSlick Fronk SandersThese individuals make up the enthralling podcast Hush Hush Society Conspiracy Hour. You can listen to their show right here:https://www.podchaser.com/podcasts/hush-hush-society-conspiracy-h-1369558They talk about how their show came together and WHY it is head and shoulders above a lot of conspiracy podcasts. Then Phantom Phil picks their brains on Hollow Earth (w/ a small taste of Hollow Moon) Theory...here are some topics covered:- Hollow Earth in famous literature- How it is perceived in ancient cultures- Scientific data- Famous explorations- Godzilla vs. KongPhantom Phil also wants to know what would happen if were bought a rural property and just started digging? Who may show up? Hush Hush provides an articulate answer to this!!FB: Unexplained Inc.IG: unexplained_inc.IG: phantom_phil_unexplainedTwitter: @phantom_phil3

Subscribe to Hush Hush Society Conspiracy Hour on iHeartRadio - http://ihr.fm/2OTWMRXSubscribe on Stitcher - http://bit.ly/2OQwJuWSubscribe Everywhere else - http://bit.ly/30Fou7AWe join our three preceptors at Dealey Plaza on November 22, 1963! We explore and question all the 'magic' angles of the death of John F. Kennedy. America's 35th President in broad daylight during a presidential motorcade through the streets of Dallas Texas. There are claims that the CIA were not only involved but carried out this assassination and that the alleged shooter, Lee Harvey Oswald was merely a pawn in a much larger plan! What happened during the course of that November day? What led up to this? Who were the parties involved? We look through all the open and closed windows. No blade of grass left untouched.~~~~~~~~~~~Indie Drop-InAll content legally licensed from the original creator. Thank you to () for the great episode. You can find Indie Drop-In at https://indiedropin.comHelp Indie Drop-In support indie creators by buying us a coffee!https://buymeacoffee.com/indiedropinBrands can advertise on Indie Drop-In using Patreonhttps://patreon.com/indiedropinTwitter: https://twitter.com/indiedropinInstagram: https://instagram.com/indiedropinFacebook: https://facebook.com/indiedropinAny advertising found in this episode is inserted by Indie Drop-In and not endorsed by the Creator.If you would like to have your show featured go to http://indiedropin.com/creators~~~~~~~~~~~

Subscribe to Hush Hush Society Conspiracy Hour on iHeartRadio - http://ihr.fm/2OTWMRXSubscribe on Stitcher - http://bit.ly/2OQwJuWSubscribe Everywhere else - http://bit.ly/30Fou7AWe join our three preceptors at Dealey Plaza on November 22, 1963! We explore and question all the 'magic' angles of the death of John F. Kennedy. America's 35th President in broad daylight during a presidential motorcade through the streets of Dallas Texas. There are claims that the CIA were not only involved but carried out this assassination and that the alleged shooter, Lee Harvey Oswald was merely a pawn in a much larger plan! What happened during the course of that November day? What led up to this? Who were the parties involved? We look through all the open and closed windows. No blade of grass left untouched.~~~~~~~~~~~Indie Drop-InAll content legally licensed from the original creator. Thank you to () for the great episode. You can find Indie Drop-In at https://indiedropin.comHelp Indie Drop-In support indie creators by buying us a coffee!https://buymeacoffee.com/indiedropinBrands can advertise on Indie Drop-In using Patreonhttps://patreon.com/indiedropinTwitter: https://twitter.com/indiedropinInstagram: https://instagram.com/indiedropinFacebook: https://facebook.com/indiedropinAny advertising found in this episode is inserted by Indie Drop-In and not endorsed by the Creator.If you would like to have your show featured go to http://indiedropin.com/creators~~~~~~~~~~~

Who are the Black Eyed Children? Are they demons? aliens? vampires? spirits? or just creepypasta? Join CJ, Jeremy and their special guest Declassified Dave from the Hush Hush Society Conspiracy Hour podcast as they dive into the world of one of the most wide spread urban legends on the planet. Sit back, close the curtains, and turn off the lights and get ready to discover the weird and creepy stories of the Black Eyed Children down another fork in the path of the Infinite Rabbit Hole. But whatever you do, DO NOT ANSWER THE DOOR!!!  Special thank you to Declassified Dave for jumping in and sharing some crazy accounts of these demonic entities! And a very special thank you to everyone who has taken the time to listen to our podcast and helped us get to this milestone of 20 episodes! If you would like to follow us on social media you can do so at the following... Facebook: facebook.com/InfiniteRabbitHole Twitter: twitter.com/InfiniteRH Instagram: @Infinite_Rabbit_Hole    &    @IRHJeremy Email: InfiniteRabbitHole@gmail.com --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/infiniterabbithole/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/infiniterabbithole/support

We are back and dressed in black, dapper in fact...  Following the supposed strange group of agents known as the Men in Black.  What is this shadowy group of figures up to,  Who are they? With accounts of harassment, threats and even assassinations of UFO witnesses to keep them quiet about what they've seen...   Claims of strange features and behavior, they could even possibly be aliens themselves.  Join the Hush Hush Society Conspiracy Hour as we throw on the sunglasses for the Men in Black.    (4:00)  Your Preceptors introduce the MIB and describe their appearance and behavior. (7:22)  Fronk explains the typical events of a visit from the Men in Black. (8:00)  Harold Dahl in 1947 claimed to have been warned to not speak about a UFO sighting after being visited by a man in a black suit in Puget Sound. (10:01)  Two Army A2 Intel Officers flew from CA to WA and their B25 Bomber ironically crashed during the return flight of the trip. (10:24)  Kenneth Arnold and Dahl made the account public through a variety of publications. (13:30)  Ufologist and Demonologist  John Keele, who wrote, "The Mothman Prophecies," stated some MIB encounters are just mundane events.  He also states that UFO intelligences are not extraterrestrials but ultraterrestrials. (16:13)  The boys discuss the connections with the paranormal and extraterrestrials. (19:15)  Dave goes into the accounts of Albert K. Bender of Bridgeport, CT.  In 1952 he created the IFSB (International Flying Saucer Bureau).  After one year he shut down the program after he was visited by three Men in Black. (20:55) Edgar R. Jared and Harold Fulton received visits from these dark figures as well and shut down their own UFO organizations. (22:26)  Mike fills us in about the Journal of American Folklore's articles in the 1980's about the MIB, including Richard Sharp Shaver writings of the species, The Deros. (AD)  Check out Not Before Coffee Podcast and Dads on Dayquil! (26:39)  Dave asks the question if the MIB is an actual black project group or are they actually ultra or extraterrestrials themselves and the boys elaborate. (30:18)  After 9 years of silence, Bender wrote a book called, "Flying Saucers and the Three Men."  Claiming they were beings from the planet Kazik. (31:33)  Fronk gets into some more accounts of visits from the MIB.  In 1976, Dr. Herbert Hopkins was studying a UFO encounter and had someone with no hair, pale complexion, no lips and a black suit.  He showed him a coin that disappeared, threatened him and disappeared himself. (34:00)  In 1957 Howard Menger was visited by two men in black suits and was told to stop researching UFO's, also in 1965 Rex Heflin took photos of a UFO and was visited days later for those photos.  Years later the photos reappear in his mailbox. (35:05)  In April 1966 in Norwalk, CT two boys saw a UFO and a man dressed in black claiming to be from the government came to the school and questioned the children. (36:00)  Mike brings us up to speed about an encounter that was captured by CCTV in 2008 in a Hotel in Ontario, Canada.  They wore black and appeared as identical twins. (40:00)  Your Preceptors discuss their opinions and thoughts on what or who the Men and Black are. (44:25)  Mike gives us some older accounts of the MIB.  During the middle ages there were sightings of men silencing people for seeing, "Visions of God."  They also wore black robes. If you have any questions or comments about the show please contact us at: HushHushSociety@planetmail.com or via Twitter, Facebook & Instagram.     For all listening platforms go to: http://linktr.ee/hushhushsociety

Jen introduces you to the Hush Hush Conspiracy Hour, in their eighth episode, "The Zeta Reticuli Incident".You can find The Hush Hush Conspiracy Hour at https://linktr.ee/hushhushsociety.Here's a little about the Hush Hush Conspiracy Hour:Declassified Dave and Mystery Mike's Hush Hush Society Conspiracy Hour featuring Slick Fronk Sanders is a secret debriefing of all things conspiracy. Each week the gang takes new initiates through the dark secrets, hidden truths and acknowledged operations of the underbelly of the conspiratorial, cult, secret society, and cryptid world.Have some feedback for us?  Email us at shockedandapplaud@gmail.com or visit these fine Web establishments:Become an Applauder with PatreonFacebook and Twitter updatesOur HomepageSupport the show

The Hush Hush Society Conspiracy Hour with Declassified Dave, Mystery Mike featuring Slick Fronk Sanders Debriefing #009 The 2012 Apocalypse November 2, 2020 This installment of the Hush Hush Society Conspiracy Hour we join our Preceptors to talk about the 2012 Apocalypse. We go back in time to the looming date of December 21st, 2012 the supposed end to the Mayan long count calendar. Were the Mayans accurate with their calculations? Did the world actually end in 2012 or did we shift into another dimension of time and space? Or has the date not yet arrived! (2:43) Declassified Dave and the trio introduces the 2012 apocalypse phenomenon and the date December 21, 2012. (3:20) We go into the Mayan Calendar and their 5,126 year cycle of the long count calendar (4:21) Nancy Leader is introduced. Claimed to be a contactee of an extraterrestrial race from the Zeta Reticuli star system. (7:49) Michael Douglas Coe in 1966, proposed that Armageddon would end at the end of the 13th Bak'tun Cycle. Backed up by Author of "Fingerprints of the Gods," Graham Hancock (9:11) A little more is mentioned about Hancock and his findings. (11:37) Fronk and Mystery Mike jump into Terence McKenna's background and his beliefs on the end of the cycle as well as the Novelty Theory. (13:18) The Kʼicheʼ Maya and their beliefs are mentioned by Mike. (15:37) Dave asks the society if they were scared on the date of 12/21/2012? (16:20) Dave explains the differences between the Gregorian Calendar, Ethiopian and Julian Calendars and how we possibly could be off on the dates. (18:00) Mike delves some knowledge on 'the annunciation'. (19:36) Your Preceptors go in the major events that happened in the year 2012 that could lead us to believe we are heading or have moved into dark days. (20:00) The Higgs Boson Particle is mentioned. (25:11) The Higgs Boson is talked about in more detail by Fronk and Mike. (28:46) The idea that we were shifted into another dimension is proposed by Dave. and the Mandela Effect is defined. (30:50) Mike and Dave draw the questions of infinite dimensions. (31:49) Check out the episode of Infinite Rabbit Hole Podcast, where Mystery Mike guests and talks about ET's and The Hush Hush Society. (32:40) Dave questions if going through interdimensional shifts are a natural process? (33:38) McKenna is brought back up about his reasoning about us living in more dimensions than we can see in our 3 dimensions or 4 with time. (37:29) Dave questions in the Ethiopian calendar are right and we are in fact in the year 2012, could be nearing the end... (40:26) Preston Nichols is brought back up from Debriefing #001, and his mention that they couldn't travel in time past the year 2012, written in 1992. (41:55) The trio wraps up with all the facts and their thoughts on the 2012 Phenomenon. If you have any questions or comments about the show please contact us at: HushHushSociety@planetmail.com or via Twitter, Facebook & Instagram. For all listening platforms go to: http://linktr.ee/hushhushsociety

Where are all of the aliens? Stories of flying saucers and little green men have engulfed the minds of people since the beginning of recorded history. But why do we not see them everyday? What is their agenda? Where do they come from? Do they really travel vast distances only to fly around our planet and watch us? Jeremy and our special guest, Mystery Mike from the Hush Hush Society Conspiracy Hour Podcast takes us on a journey that spans the galaxy, crosses dimensions, and even to the hidden world below our feet. This week's journey down the Infinite Rabbit Hole will have you questioning your own stances on extraterrestrials and blow your minds in the process.  Want to hear more from Mystery Mike and The Hush Hush Society Conspiracy Hour ? Follow their social media accounts: facebook.com/groups/hushhushsocietyconspiracyhour twitter.com/HHSConspiracy Listen to all of their episodes on their spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/65VVT8BR7Paw9aqVvVgSxb?si=tTmPc3lDSXuzkgFKrOdzKQ ***A very special "Thank You" to Mystery Mike and the Hush Hush Society Conspiracy Hour Podcast for coming on to our podcast for our first collaboration event with another podcast*** --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/infiniterabbithole/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/infiniterabbithole/support

This week we find our triad de Hush back on the Mar-A-Lago Estate or maybe the Zorro Ranch? The Hush Hush Society Conspiracy Hour in part two of the Jeffrey Epstein suicide. We go deeper into the darkness, sift emails, victims tales, and all different angles maybe not yet uncovered in plain sight. Remember, flight records are forever! Welcome back HUSHLINGS! Show Notes: (2:08) Mike dives into the circumstances in the Metropolitan Correctional Center during and after the suicide. (3:10) Fronk goes over some of the findings of Jeffrey Espteins suicide, especially the fractured hyoid bone. (4:31) Dave mentions Dr. Michael Bayden who was hired by Epstein's brother (7:08) Christian Roman, a Dr. that performed an autopsy and some of Epsteins's pre-existing conditions (9:05) Mike whispers about a possibility of Epstein's autopsy report possibly not even being his body at the morgue (16:53) Ghilaine Maxwell is mentioned and the details to her arrest and the missing mugshot. (18:47) President Trump wishes Maxwell well after the arrest on live television in 2020. (19:55) Fronk starts to open the files of the flight logs on Epstein's private jet and the names that were mentioned as well as the amount of flights. (21:37) Mike and the trio lists some of the accusations of people that spent time with Epstein and how many trips they took to his properties. (23:05) Maxwell's assistant, Sarah Kellen is talked about and her involvement (28:50) Fronk goes into Emmy Taylors involvement like Sarah Kellen. (29:36) His wealth and power are talked about by Dave and how he could have silenced people (30:47) Fronk questions Trump and Acosta's involvement with Epstein's "sweetheart deal." (32:00) The details of the day of the suicide is discussed by Mystery Mike (34:31) The idea of another inmate may have murdered Jeffrey Epstein (36:30) Mike goes into some possible suspects in who could kill Epstein, such as the Clintons. . (38:19) Fronk touches on how Bill Clinton allegedly dismissed his secret service detail for up to 5 flights on Epstein's private jet. (39:13) Hillary Clinton's involvement in NY politics is mentioned by Declassified Dave and Mystery Mike. (41:28) Mike mentions that Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar-A-Lago (43:04) Fronk and Mike go into detail about Prince Andrew's accusations and involvement with Jeffrey Epstein (46:02) The Royal Family is briefly gone into and their weird happening and possible involvement to Epstein. (47:06) Dave and the rest of the Hush Hush Society talk about a global trafficking network, Ghislaine Maxwell, and how they could have only been pawns in a larger unimaginable scheme. (49:00) Your preceptors wrap up the people, facts and situations talked about, their opinions and hypothesis of the entire situation. Be sure to join us in 2 weeks for Debriefing #007 - The Majestic-12 as well as our future merchandise store. If you have any questions or comments about the show please contact us at: HushHushSociety@planetmail.com or via Twitter, Facebook & Instagram. For all listening platforms go to: http://linktr.ee/hushhushsociety

Your three guides to the unknown have returned for part one of the two part installment of Hush Hush Society Conspiracy Hour. This debriefing we jump into the void with some current events, and delve into the murky world of Jeffrey Epstein and his apparent suicide in a NYC prison in 2019! We uncover dark truths of who the financier was allegedly involved with, like Ghislaine Maxwell. What went on within the walls of an upper east side townhouse, beach side mansion in Palm Beach? What serious accusations of heinous acts have been brought to light in recent years? You're logged into the manifest, lock your tray tables in an upright position and hang in there. It's going to be a long flight. Welcome back HUSHLINGS! Show Notes: (1:25) Fronk and Dave introduce Jeffrey Epstein and his early career and his teaching career at the Dalton School (3:10) Epstein leaves the Dalton School and talked his way into Bear Stearns, a financial company. (3:55) Dave goes into Epstein's other career moves and involvement in a large Ponzi scheme. (4:24) Les Wexner is introduced, and Mike goes into his corporation, L Brands. As well as some testimonials from Wexner. (7:50) Maria Farmer, one victim in the 90's is talked about with her involvement with Epstein at Wexner's property in Ohio. (9:24) Mike goes into Maria Framer's artwork and the piece of art that Epstein first bought in their introduction. (10:37) Dave talks about Annie Farmers's accounts of her abuse from Epstein and Maxwell, during a trip to Zorro Ranch, NM. (13:30) The first assault is reported by one of the Farmer sisters to the NYPD/FBI and nothing came of it. (14:41) Mystery Mike goes into Ghislaine Maxwell and her life, her father Robert Maxwell and how she got involved with Jeffrey Epstein (16:23) Fronk and Mike go into some of the events of the early 2000's at the Palm Beach, FL property (17:42) Dave introduces Shawna Rivera and her compensation of $200 after giving Epstein and massage. (21:18) The first search of Epstein's Palm Beach mansion is conducted (24:23) The FBI is introduced in 2008 to the mix and Dave talks about Alexander Acosta's first involvement and his 'sweetheart deal' (29:05) Dave and Fronk jump into the fact that Epstein and his "conspirators" can't be prosecuted (31:45) Dave introduces Virigina 'Roberts' Giuffre and her claims of abuse from Epstein (33:26) Another victim Sarah Ransome is introduced by Mike and Dave (35:54) June 2016 a claim of rape is made against Donald Trump (37:78) Dave mentions that Alexander Acosta is appointed US Labor Secretary by President Donald Trump. (40:17) Mike tells us that Alexander Acosta resigns as US Labor Secretary (42:27) Epstein is found dead in his jail cell on Aug. 10, 2019 from an apparent suicide. If you have any questions or comments about the show please contact us at: HushHushSociety@planetmail.com or via Twitter, Facebook & Instagram. For all listening platforms go to: http://linktr.ee/hushhushsociety

Our three preceptors venture on their premiere episode of The Hush Hush Society Conspiracy Hour delve deep into the strange and ominous reaches of The Montauk Project and The Philadelphia Experiment. We go back in time to the 1940s and seek answers into the secrets the United States government and its military were hiding at Montauk Point in Long Island, NY. With such accounts of teleportation, mind control, contact with extraterrestrials, faking the moon landings as well as the ever more strange tale of the USS Eldridge using teleportation from Philadelphia to New York then Virginia! (2:34) The Philadelphia Experiment introduction, October 28 1943 aboard the USS Eldridge. (4:52) Mike explains the degaussing story of said Navy ships. (5:49) Morris K Jessup was an author, ufologist, astronomer - "The Case for the UFO" (6:22) Carl M. Allen aka "Carlos Miguel Allende" sends Morris K. Jessup claims of experiences of the Philadelphia Experiment. Claims of aliens, interdimensional travel, etc. (8:36) Dave examines the degaussing definition from Wikipedia excerpt. (9:13) Mike talks about unified field theory, and Carlos Allendes claim that Albert Einstein aboard the USS Eldridge as well as thousands of men, are supposed to have seen the disappearance. (13:11) Carlos Allende claims that Charles Proteus Steinmetz was aboard the ship who died almost 20 years before the alleged incident on October 26, 1923. He also states that Nikola Tesla was on board who also had passed away before the experiment earlier that year. (18:01) Mike talks the USS Eldridge is transferred to Greece January 15, 1951 under the Mutual Defense Assistance Act (19:18) Dave introduces the Montauk Project on Montauk Point in Long Island, NY at Camp Hero. (20:28) Fronk talks about 'The Montauk Chair' subjects with strong psychic abilities (22:18) Mike explains the Bulgarian Experiment with Professor Marina Boyadjievas experiments with LSD from 1962-1968. (23:58) Dave & Mike talk about Preston Nichols's claims about being abducted and put through experiments. (25:03) Al Bielek and Duncan Cameron claim they jumped off the deck of the USS Eldridge (27:01) Fronk and Dave touch on Preston Nichols claims and the SAGE satellites (29:31) Mike touches on kidnappings known as, 'The Montauk Boys' and Preston Nichols claims to be one of these boys. His account talks about a monster that destroys a base. He also touches on the parallels with the Netflix show, Stranger Things. (33:48) Mike fills us in on what happened to Camp Hero If you have any questions or comments about the show please contact us at: HushHushSociety@planetmail.com or via Twitter, Facebook & Instagram. For all listening platforms go to: http://linktr.ee/hushhushsociety

The trio of hush are back with episode two of The Hush Hush Society Conspiracy Hour with more mind bending mysteries as they drop into MK-ULTRA! A now declassied program known as the 'CIA Mind Control Program' were a series of mostly illegal and inhumane experiments. Using mind altering drugs/chemicals (LSD) on mostly unsuspecting patients, colleagues even led to one of the Army's own scientists 'jumping' to his death in 1953 in a NYC hotel! Sleep deprivation, massive electric shocks, verbal/physical torture, psychic driving, and hypnosis! The program began in the infancy of the Cold War to create a 'robot soldier or spy' so Americans would have their minds wiped clean or the Soviets that were captured would give up their secrets! (1:29) Dave introduces the MK-ULTRA Program and its start in 1953 to its demise in 1973. Over 149 different projects. (3:11) Fronk elaborates on the prisoner James "Whitey" Bulgars involvement and how he wrote 70 letters about the negative experience. Bulgar was a crime boss and FBI informant from Boston, Massachusetts. (4:41) Dave goes into the depth of the program as well as the budget of 10 million dollars (adjusted $87.5 million for inflation) (6:15) Mike introduces Albert Hofmann, a Swiss chemist and the first to synthesize and ingest LSD (lysergic acid diethylamide) he also named the compound psilocybin. (6:57) Steven Kinzner an American author claims that MK-ULTRA "was a continuation of the work begun in WWII-era Japanese facilities and Nazi concentration camps on subduing and controlling human minds" (7:42) Dave talks about the strange incident on August 15, 1951 where the entire town of Pont- Saint- Esprit, A small town in southern France that was 'poisoned' (9:38) Project Bluebird and Project Artichoke are mentioned (12:04) Dave goes into the operation held in San Francisco called, Operation Midnight Climax. (14:00) Mike talks about Sidney Gottlieb, an American chemist (15:05) Dave delves into the methods used in the program (18:20) Mike & Dave fill us in about a Canadian, Robert Logan who had undergone some of these experiments (26:05) The trio touch the actions that happened directly after WWII and Nazi scientists (28:23) Oct 4, 1995 - President Bill Clinton apologized to the families about the MK-ULTRA Program. (29:40) Frank Olson, an American Army scientist that worked for the United States Army Biological Warfare Laboratories (USBWL) at Camp Detrick (now Fort Detrick). After being dosed with LSD, nine days later on November 28th 1953 he 'jumped' to his death. (33:20) In 1973 CIA Director Richard Helms ordered the MK-ULTRA documents destroyed. (39:00) Stansfield Turner was appointed to write the 15 page report by Jimmy Carter which is now declassified and available to the public. Easily found on Wikipedia. (41:15) Mike and the guys close up the show with a quick discussion of MK-ULTRA and its possible current activity. If you have any questions or comments about the show please contact us at: HushHushSociety@planetmail.com or via Twitter, Facebook & Instagram. For all listening platforms go to: http://linktr.ee/hushhushsociety