Podcast appearances and mentions of joel pilger

What happens when a small group of motion designers in Detroit evolves into a powerhouse of collaboration and innovation? The crew from Cart & Horse sat down with Joey on the School of Motion podcast to share their journey—from navigating the tight-knit creative community in Detroit to pioneering new workflows in Unreal Engine. Check out the corresponding blog post and key takeaways here: https://www.schoolofmotion.com/blog/cart-and-horse

In the latest episode of the School of Motion Podcast, host Joey Korenman sits down with industry veteran Joel Pilger—a name synonymous with success in the motion design world. With a career spanning over two decades, Joel has: - Founded and led Impossible Pictures, a top creative studio that grossed over $40 million and garnered major awards. - Advised leading independent studios worldwide, including Cream, Giant Ant, Laundry, Mighty Nice, Polyester, Sarofsky, and STATE. - Launched FORUM, a community where studio founders master the art of business together. Tune in as Joel shares invaluable insights on not just surviving, but thriving, in the evolving motion design landscape.   See the corresponding blog post here: https://www.schoolofmotion.com/blog/joel-pilger    

In this episode, Matt and Shelby discuss the challenges that small studios face in reaching their full potential and are joined by Joel Pilger, a creative consultant. The main themes that emerge from the conversation are the importance of taking risks and going all-in, the need for studios to differentiate themselves and find their unique value proposition, and the power of personal connections and networking. 

My friend and marketing expert Joel Pilger of RevThink joins me for another insightful discussion. Joel shares his expertise on positioning your company and putting yourself out there through LinkedIn outreach. He also stresses the importance of respecting the process and keeping at it until opportunities come your way. Joel also shares an impactful story of how he landed a major project through experts travel by putting himself out there and meeting with clients in New York City. FLOW STATE Click MAGIC MIND and use this nifty discount code JB20 and gobble it up daily with your coffee. If you follow me on Instagram you've seen my geniune endorsment of this mighty mind power juice. EVENTSMy next in-person Commercial Directing Bootcamp is Saturday, January 20th, 2024 is SOLD OUT.  DM or email me if you're interested in joining the waitlist for the Spring 2024 Bootcamp. Check out my Masterclass or Commercial Directing Shadow online courses. (Note this link to the Shadow course is the one I mention in the show.) All my courses come with a free 1:1 mentorship call with yours truly. Taking the Shadow course is the only way to win a chance to shadow me on a real shoot! DM for details. How To Pitch Ad Agencies and Director's Treatments Unmasked are now bundled together with a free filmmaker consultation call, just like my other courses. Serious about making spots? The Commercial Director Mega Bundle for serious one-on-one mentoring and career growth.   Jeannette Godoy's hilarious romcom “Diamond In The Rough” streams on the YouTube, Tubi and more. Please support my wife filmmaker Jeannette Godoy's romcom debut. It's “Mean Girls” meets “Happy Gilmore” and crowds love it.   Thanks,   Jordan   This episode is 90 minutes. My cult classic mockumentary, “Dill Scallion” is online so I'm giving 100% of the money to St. Jude Children's Hospital. I've decided to donate the LIFETIME earnings every December, so the donation will grow and grow. Thank you. Respect The Process podcast is brought to you by True Gentleman Industries, Inc. in partnership with Brady Oil Entertainment, Inc.

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At the heart of every studio, every production company, and every creative enterprise, there is a founder. A dauntless entrepreneur who carved their own path and beat the odds. My name is Joel Pilger, and I like to call this type of courageous human, a Fabulist.  On Season 01 of The Fabulist, we heard the stories that the journey is hardly ever a straight line. In Season 02, we continue the journey. HOST ⁠Joel Pilger⁠ | Global Consultant at RevThink | ⁠Instagram⁠ | ⁠LinkedIn⁠ NOMINATE A FABULIST Know a creative entrepreneur who should be on “the list”? ⁠Nominate them⁠.

This is a story about storytellers, creators, filmmakers, and fable finders. Those intrepid souls who launched a business only to wake up one day and discover they had built an empire. Strategic creatives like Joe and Mikon. MIKON VAN GASTEL (CLIP): When you are an entrepreneur and you're in this business, the forces around you are fucking with everything you are trying to build. JOEL PILGER (VO): Real and raw founders like Marcel MARCEL ZIUL (CLIP): To just like show your pitches to your competitor and say, bro, you kicked my ass. Teach me here, please. I need to learn. JOEL PILGER (CLIP): And how did they respond? MARCEL ZIUL (CLIP): They showed me their pitches. JOEL PILGER (CLIP): Whoa. JOEL PILGER (VO): And makers like Erin, who I asked, what does it take to run a great creative business? ERIN SAROFSKY (CLIP): Everything's a hustle. It's not being built on the back of a, you know, a mountain that was already there. JOEL PILGER (VO): One thing is clear, these creatives dismissed the safer path and ignored convention. JOE WRIGHT (CLIP): What the company is today is completely different from what it was when we started it. JOEL PILGER (VO): I'm Joel Pilger and this is my new podcast, the Fabulist. Brought to you by Coupe Studios and Arbo Radiko. I've made a list and I'm traveling the world to capture the stories of these fabulous people behind the world's most interesting studios and production companies. Listen for a deep dive with names like Sibling Rivalry, State Design, Sarofsky, and many more to come. To hear these stories, and their legacies - I'll see you there. Photo by Erica Schultz

Joel Pilger is a former studio owner and now global consultant for REVthink, where he helps top creative companies unlock their potential through strategic positioning, pricing and operations. In this episode, we talk about his experiences running and selling a creative studio, how to deliver a memorable client experience, and why he believes in getting rid of the line item bid forever.

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In this episode Joel Pilger and Tim Thompson share the game-changing Saleskeeping Technique and the way it develops creative entrepreneurs' internal confidence when connecting with prospective clients.

This is a snackable conversation between Tim Thompson and Joel Pilger about the biggest questions creative entrepreneurs should ask their clients in order to get access to their biggest challenges.

This is a Weekly Briefing conversation between Joel Pilger and Tim Thompson diving into why is it so hard to get the difference right between rate, cost and price. This is also an opportunity to remind everyone that creative entrepreneurs are not selling hours, rates, services, etc. The product is, in fact, a solution that brilliantly solves the client's problem and produces the greatest value.

The motion graphics industry is in the middle of a massive talent crunch, but the hidden issue plaguing many studios isn't where to find a Houdini artist or where their next job is coming from—it's what to do with the jobs once the artist is in-house! How did this shortage of talented Producers come to happen? We sat down with veteran industry consultants Joel Pilger and Tim Thompson to  find a solution to the producer problem. Don't miss this one!

In this episode, Gabe chats with Joel Pilger who helps great creatives run great creative companies. As consultant and partner at RevThink, he advises hundreds of creative firms – studios, agencies, and production companies – based in 24 countries around the world. In addition to his work as a consultant, Joel fosters an elite community of creative entrepreneurs. He hosts the RevThinking Podcast as well as Qohort dinner gatherings of elite owners in New York, Los Angeles, and London.CreativeLive: Online Creative Classes CreativeLive: Online Creative Classes Taught by Top Experts! Browse Daily Free On-Air Classes.Disclaimer: This post contains affiliate links. If you make a purchase, I may receive a commission at no extra cost to you.Support the show

"Pitching in person is critical because passion and establishing trust are generally more important than your ideas." - Joel Pilger This content was originally aired as a live interactive session on the new platform "Fishbowl".

For this episode of the RevThinking podcast we are excited to 'go back'. We are going to be sharing what we call the "best of" episodes with you. Recasting the top episodes from that past one hundred episodes of the RevThinking Podcast. Tim Thompson is a consultant and Chief Revolution Thinker at RevThink. In this episode, Joel Pilger asks Tim the question: when your studio is ready to hire a full-time sales person (e.g., an Executive Producer), it's an exciting time. You have visions of your new EP bringing in fresh clients with exciting projects and fat budgets. Reality check: sales is difficult. And many salespeople – even the good ones – approach the job without knowing what really works. So how do you set up your EP for success? The key is to view sales not as a hope or even a skill, but as a system.

For this episode of the RevThinking podcast we are excited to 'go back'. We are going to be sharing what we call the "best of" episodes with you. Recasting the top episodes from that past one hundred episodes of the RevThinking Podcast. “All I need is my family, a bottle of wine, and some warm weather, and I'm happy.” – Joey Korenman In this episode of the RevThinking podcast, Joel Pilger speaks with Joey Korenman, founder and CEO at School of Motion. From a successful – yet unfulfilling – role in motion design studio to founding School of Motion, Joey's story illustrates how leading a life with intention will enable you to achieve your goals, but it may not look like what you thought it was going to look like. After all, you may end up going to work everyday in flip flops.

For this episode of the RevThinking podcast we are excited to 'go back'. We are going to be sharing what we call the "best of" episodes with you. Recasting the top episodes from that past one hundred episodes of the RevThinking Podcast. Robert Blatchford is a brand strategist and management consultant at Makebrave. In this episode, Joel Pilger and Tim Thompson interview Robert to get a peek inside the mind of this business development innovator. Having led business development at notable creative agencies Troika and LoyalKaspar, Robert offers us a rare and valuable perspective. In this episode, RevThink's Joel Pilger and Tim Thompson interview him to discuss the evolving – an increasingly critical – role of business development at creative agencies, studios and production companies. Listen in to learn from Robert about the current state of the industry and how a solid business development strategy can empower creative firms to thrive in new ways, and in spite of our increasingly competitive environment.

Live conversation with Joel Pilger @joelpilger. In a former life Joel helmed the miracle-making studio Impossible Pictures where he and his team won numerous Emmy, Addy, and Promax awards… and had a blast. Today, Joel helps emerging creative studios become industry leaders. We will be discussing whatever we manage to cover around positioning. Positioning is a vital component for success, and it's a huge topic for creatives. If you've enjoyed this episode, please leave a review, as it would mean the world to me to hear your feedback, and it would also help tremendously to get the podcast heard by more ambitious creatives like yourself. Remember, the world needs your creativity, and you have the power to ignite it. Have your voice heard on the podcast. For a chance to have your voice heard, send through a voice note with your feedback about the podcast, a tip, a question, or something else. https://anchor.fm/thestudeopodcast/message

RevThink honcho Joel Pilger joins me to talk about how and why to consider fostering a community of clients.

The day before the US Presidential Election – and on the heels of BLM and the ongoing COVID pandemic – Joel Pilger sat down with Ashley Kohler to discuss her journey as a creative entrepreneur. Ashley is President & Executive Producer of Awesome Incorporated, known for both commercial and series production. Prior to starting Awesome Inc, Mrs. Kohler spent seven years at Cartoon Network, ultimately serving as Director of Production, On-Air & Program Production.

"That's the bit that's been really interesting to me is, can we not sacrifice our creative morals for the sake of commerce? Can both of those things exist?" – David Sheldon-Hicks In this episode of the RevThinking podcast, Joel Pilger has a conversation with David Sheldon-Hicks, Founder at Territory Studio.

“It’s a very delicate ecosystem but really my job as the owner is to make sure the company is healthy. It’s almost like a child or a person that I am caretaker of.” – Erin Sarofsky, Sarofsky In this episode of the RevThinking podcast, Joel Pilger sits down with Erin Sarofsky, ECD And owner at eminent creative studio Sarofsky.

For those of us who start a studio, we think it will lead to a new level of freedom. Before too long, we realize that it’s a business and that creativity is just one part of it. Today’s guest helps creative business owners improve the business side of what they do so that they can focus on the parts that they love. About Joel Pilger Joel Pilger of RevThink is a consultant who helps creative studios become industry leaders. He focuses on helping owners in specific areas – genius, expertise, positioning, marketing, and sales – so their firms can produce their greatest work in the world. Finding your freedom, genius, and niche We all want the freedom to produce great work. Having your own motion design studio often gives you this freedom. But it’s not that simple. Joel explains how you can get the clients you’re after by curating a community, showcasing your expertise, and crafting your unique message. These aren’t simple and easy things. Yet, with the right approach and guidance it is completely achievable. Work is very personal to creatives. Joel urges creatives who are searching for a niche to serve to look within their own genius to find it. Identifying your genius will lead you to your niche. If you can focus on what you love to do, you can serve the best clients for you and find joy and inspiration in your work. Your community is the key to your success In the end, much of a studio’s success is derived from its community. Reaching out within your network is the best place to find the employees you want and the best clients. Joel explains how this community doesn’t happen by accident. It takes regular and intentional curation and engagement. Joel describes how identifying people’s problems and offering yourself as a solution is an effective way to become an integral part of this community. Quotes “The foundation is focusing on your genius. You have to identify your genius and focus on it. That informs your positioning, you build your community, you work with those best clients, and great work shows up.” [10:43] “Yes, I’m a big fan of working and focusing on a niche. However, niching down is a byproduct or a symptom of focusing on your genius.” [11:32] “That’s ultimately the shift that we’re all going through if you’re in this business - from being an order-taker and providing services to becoming an expert and providing value, results, and outcomes.” [34:35] In This Episode How consultants help studios improve various parts of their business [1:48] The different challenges of freelancing and owning a studio [4:40] How your niche derives from your genius [11:10] Growing a studio without giving up your creative pursuits [16:45] How curating a community can lead to new work [27:20] The shift that needs to happen to become a leader in your field [35:00] The one thing every motion designer needs to do to survive tough times [40:38] Key Takeaways Creativity is just one ingredient in owning a business. It should be the source of what you do and who you serve, but you’ll need help with the rest of the operation. Reaching out within your community will help you find the right people for your studio. Communities do not happen by accident. You need to curate your community and continually make offers within it. This will provide you with the best resource your studio needs to succeed and grow. Links & Resources Find Joel Pilger online Follow Joel on Instagram | Linkedin RevThink Podcast  Additional Resources Podcast music licensed by Big Waves sonosanctus.com dankoch.net Podcast production & marketing support by the team at Counterweight Creative Show Notes 

“The studio has a story arc, and then every project is its own story arc, and your relationship with that client is a story arc, and then you have a bunch of staff that have their own story arc. And I think that with enough thought and intention, you can line those things up.” – Jay Grandin, Partner + Creative Director at Giant Ant In this episode of the RevThinking podcast, Joel Pilger explores an intimate conversation with Jay Grandin at Giant Ant. Going beyond the surface business and creative challenges of running a creative studio, this discussion explores the more existential and philosophical questions about why we – as owners – do what we do... and what is possible.

Premiere Gal Kelsey Brannon has taught me so many tips and tricks for editing in Adobe Premiere that I was all giddy to finally meet her via zoom. She's a shooter, editor, producer and you should subscribe to her YouTube channel now. Other unsolicited plugs: Actors, my friend Jen DiBella has a two hour class on how to manage your career as an actor in 2020. It's $30 for now, so grab a seat. Creative studio owners and prodco owners, RTP alumni Joel Pilger's RevThink.com has a new Jumpstart program beginning October 1st. Learn to handle the business side, so you can focus on being creative.  Directing Cats: A Case Study is my newest short course loaded with briefs, my treatments and a behind the scenes directing cats. I am not joking. Use code "dirtythirty" and save $30 off the course.  Bootcamp has 4 seats left as of this post for Oct. 10, 2020 and Masterclass awaits you! Here's my links. Commercial Directing Film School   Commercial Directing Masterclass   Commercial Directing Bootcamp Thanks, Jordan This runs an hour almost. 

“How can I as a marketer ignite the pathway – that I want – when somebody is reacting to my fill-in-the-blank?'” – Nina Stanley In this episode of the RevThinking podcast, Joel Pilger sits down with CCO and Neuromarketing Officer Nina Stanley at MOD to explore the her journey of helming her creative agency. They also dive into the topics of neuromarketing and neuroresearch, as well as how COVID has given rise to new ways to leverage her firm’s expertise.

"With creatives something I hear quite often is that they don't like sales. By rephrasing it we can say, 'let's do some matchmaking and see if we match'. " - Claudia Mayer In this episode of the RevThinking podcast, Joel Pilger sits down with Claudia Mayer, Creative Business Coach, asking the question, is there a disconnect between creativity and business? And of course some of the timeliness of the pandemic and how that's effecting business and creatives.

Promax President and CEO joins RevThink's Joel Pilger on the RevThinking podcast to discuss how Promax moved its annual conference online and what that change means for the future of the organization.

"Although sometimes it doesn't seem like it, there is enough work to go around for everyone and all of us are made better by connecting with each other, building out the community...and supporting each other grow and thrive." - Steve Kazanjian In this episode of the RevThinking podcast, Joel Pilger sits down with Steve Kazanjian – CEO at Promax – to discuss the new Promax Virtual Experience and where this new shift is headed.

"It's not just about posting its about  networking with your community. The more relationships you build the more opportunities you will have access to." - Dot Lung In this episode of the RevThinking podcast, Joel Pilger sits down with Dot Lung mother of social media dragons, to discuss her formula for social media and how creative firms can take advantage of it.

"They are sitting there on epic talent and although it's a sweeping generalization a lot of them love being in their zone of creating and for many they need to distribute themselves before they can even sell more." - Richard Moore In this episode of the RevThinking podcast, Joel Pilger sits down with London based Richard Moore consultant and sales coach to discuss every creative's struggle to market and sell them-self.

"But also be a leader, don't just accept it. I do think there's part of this that's politically charged and I want people to think beyond the politics of the moment and think about what's healthy and good for the people that you serve." - Tim Thompson In this episode of the RevThinking podcast, Joel Pilger and Tim Thompon sit down to discuss the status of the current pandemic and whether they think it's time to play it safe or open up.

"It's very important to find a place where we all come together and talk about the things that we love to do. I'd like people to be happy and inspired for a few hours instead of thinking about what's happening in the world right now." – Filippo Spiezia In this episode of the RevThinking podcast, Joel Pilger speaks with Filippo Spiezia, Founder & Curator at DDD to discuss this years Digital Design Days conference and the live online conference format.

"It's about elevating the people along with you and trusting them. Because you can't do everything on your own. If you do that you'll never grow." – Joanne Chan In this episode of the RevThinking podcast, Joel Pilger speaks with Joanne Chan, CEO at Turner Duckworth to discuss "Maintaining Independence" and how she went from working in her business to working on her business. This is another episode in our ongoing Profile of the Creative Entrepreneur series spotlighting inspired creative entrepreneurs and their journey navigating the intersection of creativity and commerce.

"The number of impressions is super integral to the success of an experience. For us it's actually the number of lasting impressions that really matter." – Nasya Kamrat In this episode of the RevThinking podcast, Joel Pilger speaks with Nasya Kamrat, Founder/Executive Producer at Faculty to discuss "Spatial Storytelling" and how this special expertise serves Faculty's clients. This is another episode in our ongoing Profile of the Creative Entrepreneur series spotlighting inspired creative entrepreneurs and their journey navigating the intersection of creativity and commerce.

FROM TODAY’s EPISODE: Why we should not focus on our weaknesses What to do when you don’t have the resources to hire out How to see the value in your work Dealing with imposter syndrome as a young entrepreneur    Connect with Joel: www.RevThink.com   Atlanta Entrepreneur Business Live: https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/entrepreneur-business-live-atlanta-27th-february-2020-tickets-91347158811   RESOURCES: Podcasting Together: www.heatherparady.com/podcastingtogether Join our Private Facebook Group: https://bit.ly/2lPut5A Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/heatherparady   Joel Pilger helps great creatives run great creative companies. As consultant and partner at RevThink, he advises hundreds of creative firms – studios, agencies, and production companies – based in 23 countries around the world. In addition to his work as a consultant, Joel fosters an elite community of creative entrepreneurs. He hosts the RevThinking Podcast as well as Qohort dinner gatherings of elite owners in New York, Los Angeles, and London.

Super Bowl LIV seems a distant past a few weeks later, that's because the shelf life of a spot has diminished with our ever-growing appetite for content. I typically record live, but we shot back to back, so I'm playing catch up. Here's the Ads of the World list. Brand Ambassadors still abound, and I stumbled upon one by casting from Netflix's "Cheer" squad and a little dumb luck.  Congrats to all the filmmakers on their fun crop of Super Bowl spots, all the Oscar nominees and winners.  My friend and RTP alumni Joel Pilger can help you grow your production company, music house or motion design shop with his RevThink JUMPSTART program that starts Feb. 17th, 2020. Click to find out more. Unsolicited plug. Thanks, Jordan This is me for 20 minutes. Commercial Directing Bootcamp is June 27th, 2020 in LA and filmmakers are signing up already. And our sponsor Oso Delicious just got a batch of all three flavors of hot sauce for you flavorseekers!

“It’s very important to connect with people – whether it leads to new business or not – just for your mental well being. So it’s really important to get out and celebrate.” – James Cowen In this episode of the RevThinking podcast, Joel Pilger speaks with James Cowen, Founder/Creative Director at Yes Captain. As if running a creative studio wasn’t enough, James also helms the annual motion design conference Node Fest in Melbourne, Australia. What would lead a busy creative entrepreneur to start a new conference? What is involved in pulling it off? What might seem fun and glamorous may have a challenging dark side. But are there other strategic byproducts which emerge? James challenges creatives to get out from behind their desk, meet people, and celebrate the industry and the amazing work that we are privileged to make.

"The entire lifeline of this whole industry… no one has finished it yet… so we are all imposters, to a degree." – Ryan Summers In this episode of the RevThinking podcast, Joel Pilger speaks with Ryan Summers, Creative Director at School of Motion. Ryan is a creative leader whose career has spanned major brands as well as top studios such as Digital Kitchen, We Are Royale, Blur Studios, Oddfellows, Midnight Sherpa, and Imaginary Forces. The field of motion design is still relatively young yet our industry has undergone substantial changes in a short period of time. Since no single individual has lived out an entire career – much less a lifetime – in our industry, how can anyone know what to expect? So while some are thriving, others are frustrated or disillusioned. Why? Ryan challenges motion designers to view our industry in a more entrepreneurial way and consider opportunities to own what we create.

“The idea is to think in the client’s shoes. It’s beneficial for us – but it’s far better for the client – to have the engagement stripped down into phases, because it just eliminates so much risk.” – Justin Andrews In this episode of the RevThinking podcast, Joel Pilger speaks with Justin Andrews, Partner and Creative Strategist at Animus Studios. Are you working for clients with projects? Or are you serving accounts with problems? There is a big difference between the two. In a world seeing more and more opportunities to work brand-direct, Justin and Joel enter into a thoughtful reconsideration of the common approach to selling large projects:

"Ready, fire, aim. Just getting on building momentum. You're ready enough, fire into action and then you build enough expertise around you to figure out what the true aim is.'" – David Flanagan In this episode of the RevThinking podcast, Joel Pilger speaks with David Flanagan, Director of Content & Strategy at P2 in Sydney, Australia. What is the future of serving brands directly with their content needs? The answer lies in not merely tackling projects, but rather in solving problems. Listen in as David (a.k.a. Flanners) shares his perspective on how studios and production companies are making the shift to working as an agency direct-to-brand.

"It always makes my day when I see a response from some gigantic company like the senior marketing manager at Pepsi co. will respond to a client and say, "Wow this is such a great timely email - we have a project that might be right up your alley." – Emmett Armstrong In this episode of the RevThinking podcast, Joel Pilger speaks with Emmett Armstrong, Owner at OnRamp Data. Emmett helps creative entrepreneurs solve the riddle of lead generation and outreach. Basically, how do you find new prospective clients and get conversations started. Recommended listening to set the stage for today's episode - "Everyone has a sales problem".

“All I need is my family, a bottle of wine, and some warm weather, and I’m happy.” – Joey Korenman In this episode of the RevThinking podcast, Joel Pilger speaks with Joey Korenman, founder and CEO at School of Motion. From a successful – yet unfulfilling – role in motion design studio to founding School of Motion, Joey’s story illustrates how leading a life with intention will enable you to achieve your goals, but it may not look like what you thought it was going to look like. After all, you may end up going to work everyday in flip flops.

Joel Pilger on positioning.

"When you know the box, it's a lot easier to think outside of it." – Justin Barnes In this episode of the RevThinking podcast, Joel Pilger speaks with Justin Barnes, founding partner and creative director at VERSUS.  Listen in for a candid conversation with Justin as he shares his journey co-founding his production company right in the heart of Manhattan.

RevThink.com's Joel Pilger returns to the show to help filmmakers, graphic designers and animators grow their business. Check out his website RevThink and his Jumpstart program. It's next level learning for any creative studio. Enjoy. Jordan This episode is just over an hour. Commercial Directing Bootcamp is Saturday, April 21st, 2018 in Santa Monica, Ca.

Production veteran Joel Pilger helps directors, artists and such focus on the creative side of things, while he and his team at RevThink help you run the business side of things. We chat about his company and his mission to take the pain out of running your own company. But when you hit a certain level of success, shit happens. Stuff you do not want to deal with. Joel also hosts a great podcast called RevThinking of iTunes. He also introduced me to the term solopreneur. Enjoy. Jordan