Podcasts about meaningness

Current text generators, such as ChatGPT, are highly unreliable, difficult to use effectively, unable to do many things we might want them to, and extremely expensive to develop and run. These defects are inherent in their underlying technology. Quite different methods could plausibly remedy all these defects. Would that be good, or bad? https://betterwithout.ai/better-text-generators John McCarthy's paper “Programs with common sense”: http://www-formal.stanford.edu/jmc/mcc59/mcc59.html Harry Frankfurt, "On Bullshit": https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001EQ4OJW/?tag=meaningness-20 Petroni et al., “Language Models as Knowledge Bases?": https://aclanthology.org/D19-1250/ Gwern Branwen, “The Scaling Hypothesis”: gwern.net/scaling-hypothesis Rich Sutton's “Bitter Lesson”: www.incompleteideas.net/IncIdeas/BitterLesson.html Guu et al.'s “Retrieval augmented language model pre-training” (REALM): http://proceedings.mlr.press/v119/guu20a/guu20a.pdf Borgeaud et al.'s “Improving language models by retrieving from trillions of tokens” (RETRO): https://arxiv.org/pdf/2112.04426.pdf Izacard et al., “Few-shot Learning with Retrieval Augmented Language Models”: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2208.03299.pdf Chirag Shah and Emily M. Bender, “Situating Search”: https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/3498366.3505816 David Chapman's original version of the proposal he puts forth in this episode: twitter.com/Meaningness/status/1576195630891819008 Lan et al. “Copy Is All You Need”: https://arxiv.org/abs/2307.06962 Mitchell A. Gordon's “RETRO Is Blazingly Fast”: https://mitchgordon.me/ml/2022/07/01/retro-is-blazing.html Min et al.'s “Silo Language Models”: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2308.04430.pdf W. Daniel Hillis, The Connection Machine, 1986: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0262081571/?tag=meaningness-20 Ouyang et al., “Training language models to follow instructions with human feedback”: https://arxiv.org/abs/2203.02155 Ronen Eldan and Yuanzhi Li, “TinyStories: How Small Can Language Models Be and Still Speak Coherent English?”: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2305.07759.pdf Li et al., “Textbooks Are All You Need II: phi-1.5 technical report”: https://arxiv.org/abs/2309.05463 Henderson et al., “Foundation Models and Fair Use”: https://arxiv.org/abs/2303.15715 Authors Guild v. Google: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authors_Guild%2C_Inc._v._Google%2C_Inc. Abhishek Nagaraj and Imke Reimers, “Digitization and the Market for Physical Works: Evidence from the Google Books Project”: https://www.aeaweb.org/articles?id=10.1257/pol.20210702 You can support the podcast and get episodes a week early, by supporting the Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/m/fluidityaudiobooks If you like the show, consider buying me a coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/mattarnold Original music by Kevin MacLeod. This podcast is under a Creative Commons Attribution Non-Commercial International 4.0 License.

Analysis of image classifiers demonstrates that it is possible to understand backprop networks at the task-relevant run-time algorithmic level. In these systems, at least, networks gain their power from deploying massive parallelism to check for the presence of a vast number of simple, shallow patterns. https://betterwithout.ai/images-surface-features This episode has a lot of links: David Chapman's earliest public mention, in February 2016, of image classifiers probably using color and texture in ways that "cheat": twitter.com/Meaningness/status/698688687341572096 Jordana Cepelewicz's “Where we see shapes, AI sees textures,” Quanta Magazine, July 1, 2019: https://www.quantamagazine.org/where-we-see-shapes-ai-sees-textures-20190701/ “Suddenly, a leopard print sofa appears”, May 2015: https://web.archive.org/web/20150622084852/http://rocknrollnerd.github.io/ml/2015/05/27/leopard-sofa.html “Understanding How Image Quality Affects Deep Neural Networks” April 2016: https://arxiv.org/abs/1604.04004   Goodfellow et al., “Explaining and Harnessing Adversarial Examples,” December 2014: https://arxiv.org/abs/1412.6572 “Universal adversarial perturbations,” October 2016: https://arxiv.org/pdf/1610.08401v1.pdf “Exploring the Landscape of Spatial Robustness,” December 2017: https://arxiv.org/abs/1712.02779 “Overinterpretation reveals image classification model pathologies,” NeurIPS 2021: https://proceedings.neurips.cc/paper/2021/file/8217bb4e7fa0541e0f5e04fea764ab91-Paper.pdf “Approximating CNNs with Bag-of-Local-Features Models Works Surprisingly Well on ImageNet,” ICLR 2019: https://openreview.net/forum?id=SkfMWhAqYQ Baker et al.'s “Deep convolutional networks do not classify based on global object shape,” PLOS Computational Biology, 2018: https://journals.plos.org/ploscompbiol/article?id=10.1371/journal.pcbi.1006613 François Chollet's Twitter threads about AI producing images of horses with extra legs: twitter.com/fchollet/status/1573836241875120128 and twitter.com/fchollet/status/1573843774803161090 “Zoom In: An Introduction to Circuits,” 2020: https://distill.pub/2020/circuits/zoom-in/ Geirhos et al., “ImageNet-Trained CNNs Are Biased Towards Texture; Increasing Shape Bias Improves Accuracy and Robustness,” ICLR 2019: https://openreview.net/forum?id=Bygh9j09KX Dehghani et al., “Scaling Vision Transformers to 22 Billion Parameters,” 2023: https://arxiv.org/abs/2302.05442 Hasson et al., “Direct Fit to Nature: An Evolutionary Perspective on Biological and Artificial Neural Networks,” February 2020: https://www.gwern.net/docs/ai/scaling/2020-hasson.pdf

Welcome to The Nonlinear Library, where we use Text-to-Speech software to convert the best writing from the Rationalist and EA communities into audio. This is: On "Geeks, MOPs, and Sociopaths", published by alkjash on January 22, 2024 on LessWrong. Hey, alkjash! I'm excited to talk about some of David Chapman's work with you. Full disclosure, I'm a big fan of Chapman's in general and also a creator within the meta/post-rationality scene with him (to use some jargon to be introduced very shortly). You mentioned being superficially convinced of a post he wrote a while ago about how subcultures collapse called "Geeks, MOPs, and sociopaths in subculture evolution". In it he makes a few key claims that, together, give a model of how subcultures grow and decline: Subcultures come into existence when a small group of creators start a scene (people making things for each other) and then draw a group of fanatics who support the scene. Creators and fanatics are the "geeks". A subculture comes into existence around the scene when it gets big and popular enough to attract MOPs (members of the public). These people are fans but not fanatics. They don't contribute much other than showing up and having a good time. If a subculture persists long enough, it attracts sociopaths who prey on the MOPs to exploit them for money, sex, etc. Although MOPs sometimes accidentally destroy subcultures by diluting the scene too much, sociopaths reliably kill subcultures by converting what was cool about the scene into something that can be packaged to sold to MOPs as a commodity that is devoid of everything that made it unique and meaningful. The main way to fight this pattern is to defend against too many MOPs overwhelming the geeks (Chapman suggests a 6:1 MOP to geek ratio) and to aggressively keep out the sociopaths. There's also a 6th claim that we can skip for now, which is about what Chapman calls the fluid mode and the complete stance, as talking about it would require importing a lot of concepts from his hypertext book Meaningness. To get us started, I'd be interested to know what you find convincing about his claims, and what, if anything, makes you think other models may better explain how subcultures evolve. In my head I'm running this model against these examples: academic subfields, gaming subreddits and discords, fandoms, internet communities, and startups. Do tell me which of these count as "subcultures" in Chapman's framing. Let me start with the parts of the model I find convincing. When subcultures grow (too) rapidly, there is an influx of casual members that dilutes the culture and some tension between the old guard and the new fans. This agrees with what I know about startups, gaming subcultures, and fandoms. It does explain the longevity of academic cultures known for our extreme gatekeeping. In Chinese there is a saying/meme 有人的地方就是江湖, which I would loosely translate as "where there are people there is politics." It seems obvious to me that in the initial stage a subculture will be focused on object reality (e.g. a fandom focused on an anime, a subreddit focused on a video game, etc.), but as people join, politics and social reality will play a larger and larger role (competition over leadership positions, over power and influence, over abstractions like community values not directly tied to the original thing). As the low-hanging fruits of innovation in object reality (e.g. geeks coming up with new build orders in starcraft, bloggers coming up with new rationality techniques) dry up, there is a tendency for those good at playing social reality games to gain progressively more influence. Here are some parts that I'm not sure about, or find suspicious, or disagree with: At least on a superficial reading there seems to be an essentialist pigeonholing of people into the Geek/Mop/Sociopath trichotomy. It seems to me more persuasive that all members of a scene have the capacity for all 3 roles, and on average the "meta" shifts as the ev...

Link to original articleWelcome to The Nonlinear Library, where we use Text-to-Speech software to convert the best writing from the Rationalist and EA communities into audio. This is: On "Geeks, MOPs, and Sociopaths", published by alkjash on January 22, 2024 on LessWrong. Hey, alkjash! I'm excited to talk about some of David Chapman's work with you. Full disclosure, I'm a big fan of Chapman's in general and also a creator within the meta/post-rationality scene with him (to use some jargon to be introduced very shortly). You mentioned being superficially convinced of a post he wrote a while ago about how subcultures collapse called "Geeks, MOPs, and sociopaths in subculture evolution". In it he makes a few key claims that, together, give a model of how subcultures grow and decline: Subcultures come into existence when a small group of creators start a scene (people making things for each other) and then draw a group of fanatics who support the scene. Creators and fanatics are the "geeks". A subculture comes into existence around the scene when it gets big and popular enough to attract MOPs (members of the public). These people are fans but not fanatics. They don't contribute much other than showing up and having a good time. If a subculture persists long enough, it attracts sociopaths who prey on the MOPs to exploit them for money, sex, etc. Although MOPs sometimes accidentally destroy subcultures by diluting the scene too much, sociopaths reliably kill subcultures by converting what was cool about the scene into something that can be packaged to sold to MOPs as a commodity that is devoid of everything that made it unique and meaningful. The main way to fight this pattern is to defend against too many MOPs overwhelming the geeks (Chapman suggests a 6:1 MOP to geek ratio) and to aggressively keep out the sociopaths. There's also a 6th claim that we can skip for now, which is about what Chapman calls the fluid mode and the complete stance, as talking about it would require importing a lot of concepts from his hypertext book Meaningness. To get us started, I'd be interested to know what you find convincing about his claims, and what, if anything, makes you think other models may better explain how subcultures evolve. In my head I'm running this model against these examples: academic subfields, gaming subreddits and discords, fandoms, internet communities, and startups. Do tell me which of these count as "subcultures" in Chapman's framing. Let me start with the parts of the model I find convincing. When subcultures grow (too) rapidly, there is an influx of casual members that dilutes the culture and some tension between the old guard and the new fans. This agrees with what I know about startups, gaming subcultures, and fandoms. It does explain the longevity of academic cultures known for our extreme gatekeeping. In Chinese there is a saying/meme 有人的地方就是江湖, which I would loosely translate as "where there are people there is politics." It seems obvious to me that in the initial stage a subculture will be focused on object reality (e.g. a fandom focused on an anime, a subreddit focused on a video game, etc.), but as people join, politics and social reality will play a larger and larger role (competition over leadership positions, over power and influence, over abstractions like community values not directly tied to the original thing). As the low-hanging fruits of innovation in object reality (e.g. geeks coming up with new build orders in starcraft, bloggers coming up with new rationality techniques) dry up, there is a tendency for those good at playing social reality games to gain progressively more influence. Here are some parts that I'm not sure about, or find suspicious, or disagree with: At least on a superficial reading there seems to be an essentialist pigeonholing of people into the Geek/Mop/Sociopath trichotomy. It seems to me more persuasive that all members of a scene have the capacity for all 3 roles, and on average the "meta" shifts as the ev...

This is part 6 of a series where Christofer investigates the ideas of David Chapman with his friend Jake Orthwein. The material covered is mainly from Chapman's two books: 'Meaningness' (meaningness.com) and 'In the Cells of the Eggplant' (metarationality.com).In the sixth episode Lulie Tanett joins the conversation again to dive deeper into meta-rationality. They talk about truth and correspondence, evolution, brains in vats, abstract propositions fairy land, the frame problem in AI, what making progress means, 'knowing that' as different from 'knowing how', and how Chris is always trying to secretly organize an MDMA sex party in the forest with everyone. Jake Orthwein is a writer and filmmaker based in Santa Monica, CA. He studied film and cognitive science at the University of Southern California and currently works as Director of Media for the Psychology of Technology Institute, an academic non-profit focused on improving research on the human-technology relationship. He is also a long term meditator.Twitter: https://twitter.com/JakeOrthweinWebsite: https://frameproblems.com/Lulie Tanett is a writer from Oxford, England, specialising in applied critical rationalism. She is currently in teacher training for the Alexander Technique – an embodied mindfulness technique about how to get out of your own way.You can find her on Twitter (https://www.twitter.com/reasonisfun and https://www.twitter.com/metaLulie), where she writes about philosophy, the psychology of how to get unstuck and flourish, non-coercion and fun.Website: https://www.lulie.co.uk/Support the podcast at:https://www.patreon.com/doexplain (monthly)https://ko-fi.com/doexplain (one-time)Find Christofer on Twitter:https://twitter.com/ReachChristofer

This is part 5 of a series where Christofer investigates the ideas of David Chapman with his friend Jake Orthwein. The material covered is mainly from Chapman's two books: 'Meaningness' (meaningness.com) and 'In the Cells of the Eggplant' (metarationality.com).In the fifth episode Lulie Tanett joins the conversation to compare her current (critical) rationalist position with the meta-rational one. They talk about the historical lineage that CR grew out of, why Descarted fucked up philosophy for everyone, the correspondence theory of truth, pragmatism, objective vs. subjective meaning, representation as affordances vs. mirroring the world, how genes aren't theories, information, intentionality, and why a universal epistemology might not be a coherent idea.Jake Orthwein is a writer and filmmaker based in Santa Monica, CA. He studied film and cognitive science at the University of Southern California and currently works as Director of Media for the Psychology of Technology Institute, an academic non-profit focused on improving research on the human-technology relationship. He is also a long term meditator.Twitter: https://twitter.com/JakeOrthweinWebsite: https://frameproblems.com/Lulie Tanett is a writer from Oxford, England, specialising in applied critical rationalism. She is currently in teacher training for the Alexander Technique – an embodied mindfulness technique about how to get out of your own way.You can find her on Twitter (https://www.twitter.com/reasonisfun and https://www.twitter.com/metaLulie), where she writes about philosophy, the psychology of how to get unstuck and flourish, non-coercion and fun.Website: https://www.lulie.co.uk/Support the podcast at:https://www.patreon.com/doexplain (monthly)https://ko-fi.com/doexplain (one-time)Find Christofer on Twitter:https://twitter.com/ReachChristofer

Welcome to The Nonlinear Library, where we use Text-to-Speech software to convert the best writing from the Rationalist and EA communities into audio. This is: [linkpost] Better Without AI, published by DanielFilan on February 14, 2023 on LessWrong. David Chapman (of Meaningness and In the Cells of the Eggplant fame) has written a new web-book about AI. Some excerpts from the introduction, Only you can stop an AI apocalypse: Artificial intelligence might end the world. More likely, it will crush our ability to make sense of the world—and so will crush our ability to act in it. AI will make critical decisions that we cannot understand. Governments will take radical actions that make no sense to their own leaders. Corporations, guided by artificial intelligence, will find their own strategies incomprehensible. University curricula will turn bizarre and irrelevant. Formerly-respected information sources will publish mysteriously persuasive nonsense. We will feel our loss of understanding as pervasive helplessness and meaninglessness. We may take up pitchforks and revolt against the machines—and in so doing, we may destroy the systems we depend on for survival... We don't know how our AI systems work, we don't know what they can do, and we don't know what broader effects they will have. They do seem startlingly powerful, and a combination of their power with our ignorance is dangerous... In our absence of technical understanding, those concerned with future AI risks have constructed “scenarios”: stories about what AI may do... So far, we've accumulated a few dozen reasonably detailed, reasonably plausible bad scenarios. We've found zero that lead to good outcomes... Unless we can find some specific beneficial path, and can gain some confidence in taking it, we should shut AI down. This book considers scenarios that are less bad than human extinction, but which could get worse than run-of-the-mill disasters that kill only a few million people. Previous discussions have mainly neglected such scenarios. Two fields have focused on comparatively smaller risks, and extreme ones, respectively. AI ethics concerns uses of current AI technology by states and powerful corporations to categorize individuals unfairly, particularly when that reproduces preexisting patterns of oppressive demographic discrimination. AI safety treats extreme scenarios involving hypothetical future technologies which could cause human extinction. It is easy to dismiss AI ethics concerns as insignificant, and AI safety concerns as improbable. I think both dismissals would be mistaken. We should take seriously both ends of the spectrum. However, I intend to draw attention to a broad middle ground of dangers: more consequential than those considered by AI ethics, and more likely than those considered by AI safety. Current AI is already creating serious, often overlooked harms, and is potentially apocalyptic even without further technological development. Neither AI ethics nor AI safety has done much to propose plausibly effective interventions. We should consider many such scenarios, devise countermeasures, and implement them. Thanks for listening. To help us out with The Nonlinear Library or to learn more, please visit nonlinear.org.

Welcome to The Nonlinear Library, where we use Text-to-Speech software to convert the best writing from the Rationalist and EA communities into audio. This is: Paper is published! 100,000 lumens to treat seasonal affective disorder, published by Fabienne on August 20, 2022 on The Effective Altruism Forum. Let's give people with winter depression (seasonal affective disorder, SAD) LOTS OF LIGHT and see what happens! This is an update to my previous post that said that our preprint is out. :) The paper was accepted with very minor changes, so you might already know what it says if you saw the first post. Here is the link to the paper: Here is the twitter thread explaining the paper: Again, Jan Brauner and I are very thankful to the LessWrong/EA communities, which have inspired this first study (there will be more) and through which we have found funding. In particular, thank you Eliezer Yudkowsky for helping us find funding and for inspiring the study with Inadequate Equilibria, David Chapman for inspiring us with these two posts in the Meaningness blog, Raemon for inspiring us with this LessWrong post and everyone who discussed with us setups they have tried.

Welcome to The Nonlinear Library, where we use Text-to-Speech software to convert the best writing from the Rationalist and EA communities into audio. This is: Paper is published! 100,000 lumens to treat seasonal affective disorder, published by Fabienne on August 20, 2022 on LessWrong. Let's give people with winter depression (seasonal affective disorder, SAD) LOTS OF LIGHT and see what happens! This is an update to my previous post that said that our preprint is out. :) The paper was accepted with very minor changes, so you might already know what it says if you saw the first post. Here is the link to the paper: Here is the twitter thread explaining the paper: Again, Jan Brauner and I are very thankful to the LessWrong/EA communities, which have inspired this first study (there will be more) and through which we have found funding. In particular, thank you Eliezer Yudkowsky for helping us find funding and for inspiring the study with Inadequate Equilibria, David Chapman for inspiring us with these two posts in the Meaningness blog, Raemon for inspiring us with this LessWrong post and everyone who discussed with us setups they have tried.

Link to original articleWelcome to The Nonlinear Library, where we use Text-to-Speech software to convert the best writing from the Rationalist and EA communities into audio. This is: Paper is published! 100,000 lumens to treat seasonal affective disorder, published by Fabienne on August 20, 2022 on LessWrong. Let's give people with winter depression (seasonal affective disorder, SAD) LOTS OF LIGHT and see what happens! This is an update to my previous post that said that our preprint is out. :) The paper was accepted with very minor changes, so you might already know what it says if you saw the first post. Here is the link to the paper: Here is the twitter thread explaining the paper: Again, Jan Brauner and I are very thankful to the LessWrong/EA communities, which have inspired this first study (there will be more) and through which we have found funding. In particular, thank you Eliezer Yudkowsky for helping us find funding and for inspiring the study with Inadequate Equilibria, David Chapman for inspiring us with these two posts in the Meaningness blog, Raemon for inspiring us with this LessWrong post and everyone who discussed with us setups they have tried.

Here we are, listeners. We have concluded "Meaningness". These episodes have been narrating sections of Meaningness which were written during the narration of Meaningness And Time. The remainder of Meaningness has already aired. If you are new to the podcast, it picks up from here at the episode aired on Aug 4, 2021, titled "The Complete Stance". On our next episode, we will begin "In The Cells Of The Eggplant", by David Chapman, published at metarationality.com. An exciting milestone. Thank you for coming with me! Miserabilism tastes like nihilism: “Miserabilism” is the stance that everything is awful. It's confused with nihilism because both entail rage and depression. https://meaningness.com/miserabilism   Nihilistic anxiety opens into play: Anxiety is a natural reaction to uncertainty. In nihilism, pervasive loss of meaning makes everything uncertain; existential angst is a response. https://meaningness.com/nihilism-anxiety   Sartre's ghost and the corpse of God: Existentialism, a hopeful alternative to rigid meanings, makes wrong metaphysical assumptions, and cannot work. It collapses inevitably into nihilism. https://meaningness.com/existentialism-muddled-middle   You can support the podcast and get episodes a week early, by supporting the Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/m/fluidityaudiobooks   If you like the show, consider buying me a coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/mattarnold   Original music by Kevin MacLeod. This podcast is under a Creative Commons Attribution Non-Commercial International 4.0 License.

On this Agent Power Huddle Mindset Monday. Susan Johnson opens up about how to build your mindset as you find Meaningness in the things you have done, Happiness in life, and, Success in your career. We are all a work in progress as per Susan.

This is part 4 of a series where Christofer investigates the ideas of David Chapman with his friend Jake Orthwein. The material covered is mainly from Chapman's two books: 'Meaningness' (meaningness.com) and 'In the Cells of the Eggplant' (metarationality.com).In the fourth episode they focus on Chapman's discussion of Robert Kegan's stages of adult development. They talk about Piaget's constructivist lineage, how one relates to meaning in the different stages, and give an overview of Chapman's 'Meaningness and Time'. Jake Orthwein is a writer and filmmaker based in Santa Monica, CA. He studied film and cognitive science at the University of Southern California and currently works as Director of Media for the Psychology of Technology Institute, an academic non-profit focused on improving research on the human-technology relationship. He is also a long term meditator.Twitter: https://twitter.com/JakeOrthweinWebsite: https://frameproblems.com/Support the podcast at:patreon.com/doexplain (monthly)ko-fi.com/doexplain (one-time)Find Christofer on Twitter:https://twitter.com/ReachChristofer

We pick up where we left off in the Nihilism chapter of the book "Meaningness", with additional pages written by the author during the narration of "Meaningness And Time".   No objective meaning: While the meaning of “objective” is nebulous, learning to relate to meaningness more objectively is possible and worthwhile.   https://meaningness.com/no-objective-meaning   Some other varieties of objectivity: Nihilistic claims about subjectivity, inherent meaning, universal meaning, and scientific objectivity do not hold up.   https://meaningness.com/objectivity-other-varieties   You can support the podcast and get episodes a week early, by supporting the Patreon:   https://www.patreon.com/m/fluidityaudiobooks   If you like the show, consider buying me a coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/mattarnold   Original music by Kevin MacLeod.   This podcast is under a Creative Commons Attribution Non-Commercial International 4.0 License.

We return to the book "Meaningness" for the conclusion of the Eternalism chapter. I delayed this episode until now in case David Chapman wrote more, or revised them, and no longer considered them unfinished. It's worthwhile just as it is, and I have formatted all these short pages as if they were sections in one page.   Eternalist Ploys: Ploys—ways of thinking, feeling, talking, and acting—which stabilize eternalism; and antidotes to use against them.   https://meaningness.com/eternalist-ploys   Imposing fixed meanings: Forcing fixed meanings on experience always eventually results in unpleasant shocks when reality refuses to conform to your pre-determined categories.   https://meaningness.com/imposing-fixed-meanings   Smearing meaning all over everything: Monist eternalism—the New Age and SBNR, for example—say everything is meaningful, but leaves vague what the meanings are.   https://meaningness.com/smearing-meaning   Magical thinking: Hallucinating causal connections is powerfully synergistic with eternalism.   https://meaningness.com/magical-thinking   Hope: Hope is harmful in devaluing the present and shifting attention to imaginary futures that may never exist.   https://meaningness.com/hope   Pretending: Eternalist religions and political systems are always partly make-believe, like children playing at being pirates.   https://meaningness.com/pretending   Colluding for eternalism: Because eternalist delusion is so desirable, we collude to maintain it. To save each other from nihilism, we support each other in not-seeing nebulosity.   https://meaningness.com/collusion   Hiding from nebulosity: Physically avoiding ambiguous situations and information.   https://meaningness.com/hiding-from-nebulosity   Kitsch and naïveté: The denial of the possibility of meaninglessness leads to willfully idiotic sentimentality.   https://meaningness.com/kitsch   Armed & armored eternalism: When nebulosity becomes obvious, eternalism fails to fit reality. You can armor yourself against evidence, and arm yourself to destroy it.   https://meaningness.com/armed-eternalism   Faith: Privileging faith over experience is an eternalist ploy for blinding yourself to signs of nebulosity.   https://meaningness.com/faith   Thought suppression: Maintaining faith in non-existent meanings. It leads to deliberate stupidity, inability to express oneself, and inaction.   https://meaningness.com/thought-suppression   Bargaining and recommitment: When eternalism lets you down, you are tempted to make a bargain with it. Eternalism will behave itself better, and in return you renew your faith in it.   https://meaningness.com/recommitment   Wistful certainty: The thought that there must exist whatever it takes to make eternalism seem to work.   https://meaningness.com/wistful-certainty   Faithful bafflement: Maintaining the eternalist stance that remains committed but begins to doubt.   https://meaningness.com/faithful-bafflement   Mystification: Using thoughts as a weapon against authentic thinking, to create glib, bogus metaphysical explanations that sweep meaninglessness under the rug.   https://meaningness.com/mystification   Rehearsing the horrors of nihilism: Reminding yourself and others of how bad nihilism is can help maintain the eternalist stance. This is the hellfire and brimstone of eternalist preaching.   https://meaningness.com/rehearsing-nihilist-horror   Purification: An obsessive focus for dualist eternalism mobilizes emotions of disgust, guilt, shame, and self-righteous anger.   https://meaningness.com/purity   Fortress eternalism: In the face of undeserved suffering, is difficult not to fall into the stance that most things are God's will, but not the horrible bits.   https://meaningness.com/fortress-eternalism   On next week's episode, we return to the Nihilism chapter of Meaningness: Objectivity.   You can support the podcast and get episodes a week early, by supporting the Patreon:   https://www.patreon.com/m/fluidityaudiobooks   If you like the show, consider buying me a coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/mattarnold   Original music by Kevin MacLeod.   This podcast is under a Creative Commons Attribution Non-Commercial International 4.0 License.

The epilogue of "The Cofounders", discussing metarationality in organizational management. https://meaningness.com/cofounders-in-relationship This concludes "Meaningness And Time". The next episodes will return to "Meaningness" to narrate material David Chapman has written in the interim. You can support the podcast and get episodes a week early, by supporting the Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/m/fluidityaudiobooks If you like the show, consider buying me a coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/mattarnold Original music by Kevin MacLeod. This podcast is under a Creative Commons Attribution Non-Commercial International 4.0 License.

This is part 3 of a series where Christofer investigates the ideas of David Chapman with his friend Jake Orthwein. The material covered is mainly from Chapman's two books: 'Meaningness' (meaningness.com) and 'In the Cells of the Eggplant' (metarationality.com).In the third episode they focus on the different ways Chapman and Sam Harris speak about the central insight of Dzogchen. They talk about the self as an illusion, rigpa, the four naljors within Dzogchen, emptiness, sutric renunciation and dangers of 'no-self', intermittently continuing, embodiment, Nietzsche's true world theories, spiritual bypassing, comparing non-duality and emotional fluidity, and why Chris thinks Sam Harris might be mistaken about the value of engaging with one's repressed emotional material.Jake Orthwein is a writer and filmmaker based in Santa Monica, CA. He studied film and cognitive science at the University of Southern California and currently works as Director of Media for the Psychology of Technology Institute, an academic non-profit focused on improving research on the human-technology relationship. He is also a long term meditator.Twitter: https://twitter.com/JakeOrthweinWebsite: https://frameproblems.com/Support the podcast at:patreon.com/doexplain (monthly)ko-fi.com/doexplain (one-time)Find Christofer on Twitter:https://twitter.com/ReachChristofer

This is part 2 of a series where Christofer investigates the ideas of David Chapman with his friend Jake Orthwein. The material covered is mainly from Chapman's two books: 'Meaningness' (meaningness.com) and 'In the Cells of the Eggplant' (metarationality.com).In the second episode they focus on why the search for a universal theory of epistemology is problematic. They talk about mathematical and semantic information, the difference between nebulosity and fallibilism, and Chapman's division of reasonableness, rationality and meta-rationality.  Jake Orthwein is a writer and filmmaker based in Santa Monica, CA. He studied film and cognitive science at the University of Southern California and currently works as Director of Media for the Psychology of Technology Institute, an academic non-profit focused on improving research on the human-technology relationship. He is also a long term meditator.Twitter: https://twitter.com/JakeOrthweinWebsite: https://frameproblems.com/Article by David Deutsch mentioned in the intro:https://www.warpnews.org/premium-content/david-deutsch-optimism-pessimism-and-cynicism/Support the podcast at:patreon.com/doexplain (monthly)ko-fi.com/doexplain (one-time)Find Christofer on Twitter:https://twitter.com/ReachChristofer

This is part 1 of a series where Christofer investigates the ideas of David Chapman with his friend Jake Orthwein. The material covered is mainly from Chapman's two books: 'Meaningness' (meaningness.com) and 'In the Cells of the Eggplant' (metarationality.com). In the first episode they focus on problematic cognitivist assumptions that undergird much of Deutsch's critical rationalism. They talk about Heidegger's idea of coping with the world, the relationship between cognition, perception and action, how representations get their meaning, and how Wittgenstein got some shit right. Jake Orthwein is a writer and filmmaker based in Santa Monica, CA. He studied film and cognitive science at the University of Southern California and currently works as Director of Media for the Psychology of Technology Institute, an academic non-profit focused on improving research on the human-technology relationship. He is also a long term meditator.Twitter: https://twitter.com/JakeOrthweinWebsite: https://frameproblems.com/Support the podcast at:patreon.com/doexplain (monthly)ko-fi.com/doexplain (one-time)Find Christofer on Twitter:https://twitter.com/ReachChristofer

This chart is an overview of Meaningness and Time: the past, present, and future of culture, society, and our selves.   https://meaningness.com/modes-chart   Also - "In praise of choicelessness." The choiceless mode of understanding meaning has no “becauses.” Explanations are unnecessary because you are unaware of any alternatives.   https://meaningness.com/choiceless-mode   You can support the podcast and get episodes a week early, by supporting the Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/m/fluidityaudiobooks If you like the show, consider buying me a coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/mattarnold Original music by Kevin MacLeod. This podcast is under a Creative Commons Attribution Non-Commercial International 4.0 License.

Beginning the next book by David Chapman: "Meaningness And Time". Past modes of relating to meaning and meaninglessness have broken down. How do we move to the fluid mode of social organization?   The problems of meaningness we face now are dramatically different from those of the past. We also sense new opportunities, and have new resources.   https://meaningness.com/meaningness-and-time   How meaning fell apart: Over the past century, systems of meaning gradually disintegrated, and a series of new modes of meaningness developed.   https://meaningness.com/meaningness-history   You can support the podcast and get episodes a week early, by supporting the Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/m/fluidityaudiobooks If you like the show, consider buying me a coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/mattarnold Original music by Kevin MacLeod. This podcast is under a Creative Commons Attribution Non-Commercial International 4.0 License.

This mid-week bonus episode is another interview with David Chapman, in which we discuss nihilism, both as a book section, and nihilism itself. Since the time that I started recording, he has since written six more episodes worth of chapters in the Nihilism section of Meaningness. I could move on and record "Meaningness And Time", but instead I'll loop back and read his newly-written chapters out of order. Original music by Kevin MacLeod. This podcast is under a Creative Commons Attribution Non-Commercial International 4.0 License.d

Going beyond resolutions of specific problems: consistently maintaining an accurate stance toward meaningness. https://meaningness.com/stabilize-complete-stance Since this episode ties together what we have learned so far, it references previous episodes. They are: Obstacles To The Complete Stance. Stances Are Unstable Exiting eternalism. Finding the complete stance. Textures of completion. Meaningness as a liberating practice. Original music by Kevin MacLeod. This podcast is under a Creative Commons Attribution Non-Commercial International 4.0 License.

We're taking a break from narrating Meaningness to read an important foundational essay by the author of Meaningness, David Chapman. As we reach the end of the Eternalism section of Meaningness, it's time for one of the essays I included in the Patreon backer survey. This essay is an overview by David Chapman of the work of psychologist Robert Kegan, a scholar of adult cognitive development. This essay has become very useful for how I see the situations of my own life, and I'm excited to finally share it with you. David Chapman recently wrote the chapter of Meaningness about Eternalist Systems, and he is currently writing a chapter on how to become meta to systems. That will make a lot more sense after you hear this episode. So while he's writing that chapter, this is a perfect time. https://vividness.live/developing-ethical-social-and-cognitive-competence Original music by Kevin MacLeod. This podcast is under a Creative Commons Attribution Non-Commercial International 4.0 License.

For the past few months, I've been assembling cast members, to edit their performances together into a full-cast recording of this week's chapter. What is the meaning of an extra-marital affair—or any relationship? A philosophical short story illustrates the puzzle of the nebulosity of meaningness. Thanks to Bruce Webber of the Phase Shift podcast for his performance of the viewpoint character, Christine Kitchens as the philosophy professor, Shianne Nocerini of the Daily Detroit podcast as Suzie, Sarah Elkins as Janet, Jeremiah Staes of the Daily Detroit podcast as Chris, and Sofia Syntaxx of the ANGR podcast as Kim. Original text at: https://meaningness.com/nebulosity-of-meaningness Original music by Kevin MacLeod. This podcast is under a Creative Commons Attribution Non-Commercial International 4.0 License.

This mid-week bonus episode features a 20-minute excerpt from my interview with David Chapman, in which we discuss his plans for finishing Meaningness. Original music by Kevin MacLeod. This podcast is under a Creative Commons Attribution Non-Commercial International 4.0 License.

Dualism, nihilism, and monism are the three main approaches to fundamental questions of meaning. This book proposes a better, fourth alternative. This begins the third section of Meaningness, "Doing Meaning Better". Original text at: https://meaningness.com/big-three-stance-combinations Original music by Kevin MacLeod. This podcast is under a Creative Commons Attribution Non-Commercial International 4.0 License.

Relationships one may have with "stances" (basic attitudes toward meaningness) include adopting, committing, accomplishing, wavering, and appropriating. This ends the second section of Meaningness, an introduction to stances. Original text at: https://meaningness.com/relationships-with-stances Original music by Kevin MacLeod. This podcast is under a Creative Commons Attribution Non-Commercial International 4.0 License.

A practice of replacing confused, dysfunctional patterns of thinking and feeling about meaning with accurate ones. Original text here: https://meaningness.com/meaningness-practice Original music by Kevin MacLeod. This podcast is under a Creative Commons Attribution Non-Commercial International 4.0 License.

Meaningness is cloud-like: nebulous. It is real, but impossible to completely pin down. Original text is here: https://meaningness.com/nebulosity Brains automatically find meaning and pattern; we need them to act. Unfortunately, brains also find meaning and pattern where there are none. Original text is here: https://meaningness.com/pattern Original music by Kevin MacLeod. This podcast is under a Creative Commons Attribution Non-Commercial International 4.0 License.

This is the final episode of The UNSONG Audiobook Podcast for the foreseeable future. I have begun my new podcast, "Fluidity", in which I am narrating the non-fiction book "Meaningness", by David Chapman. Scott Alexander is the author of "The Girl Who Poked God With A Stick", but unlike the other short stories on this podcast, he never posted this one to his Slate Star Codex blog. Enjoy!

Mistaken attitudes toward meaning create unnecessary psychological/spiritual/existential suffering. Original text is here: https://meaningness.com/misunderstanding-meaningness-makes-many-miserable Original music by Kevin MacLeod. This podcast is under a Creative Commons Attribution Non-Commercial International 4.0 License.

Meaningness is the quality of being meaningful or meaningless. Original text here: https://meaningness.com/what-is-meaningness Original music by Kevin MacLeod. This podcast is under a Creative Commons Attribution Non-Commercial International 4.0 License.

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I make audiobooks and release them as podcasts.  The 20th-century systematic mode of social organization provided pre-packaged meaning, value, purpose, and ethics. It broke down. We entered an internet-enabled atomized mode of social organization, splintered into a kaleidoscope of meanings, without context. Audiobooks narrated in the Fluidity podcast will look toward constructing a fluid mode. Welcome to episode 1 of the next book, a work of non-fiction by David Chapman, a Buddhist and a former artificial intelligence researcher. "Meaningness" takes problems of meaning-making, typically considered spiritual, and turns them into practical problems, which are more tractable. This ten-minute introductory episode will give you a taste of this approach. Original text here: https://meaningness.com/an-appetizer-purpose You can support the podcast and get episodes a week early, by supporting the Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/m/fluidityaudiobooks Music is by Kevin MacLeod. This podcast is under a Creative Commons Attribution Non-Commercial International 4.0 License.

The UNSONG Audiobook is now complete. Two-hundred and forty-four thousand, one hundred and forty words. Thirty-two hours of audio. Let me know of any episodes you think really need to be re-recorded. For the rest of this year, the further episodes will be my favorite short stories from the same author, which I have been looking forward to. Here is the hour-long retrospective episode. If you have not read the book and this is where you're starting, be advised of spoilers, and of content warnings about violence and mental illness. It includes an interview with the author, announcements of the future of the podcast, recommendations for further reading or listening, my reflections on the themes of the novel, the ability to change the world, finding patterns where none exist, random acts of violence, and resisting despair. It also includes a very personally vulnerable account of how the novel makes me feel about the historical development of this century so far, the position of my life within that, and the place of you and I and each other in the world. According to my time tracker, I have been writing, reworking, and editing this episode for almost 18 total hours in my text editor alone, to say nothing of the audio editor. On the one hand, I might talk about myself too much, and on the other hand, I consider it misleading if I present a "view from nowhere" as if it were the only one. Everyone has a viewpoint on the subject they are discussing, and this one is mine. I'm interested in yours, so please email your questions or answers or follow-up questions or follow-up answers to: thatsoundshard@gmail.com Question timestamps: 1, the theme of your blog- 01:07. 2, softening opposition to the antagonists - 01:47. 3, planning in a serial format- 05:56. 4, justifying the unjustifiable- 11:09. 5, placebomancy and propaganda- 20:18. 6, worldbuilding premise- 26:44. 7, comedic style- 30:53. 8, psychological distance- 38:02. 9, did anyone ever make it to Wall Drug- 46:50. 10, after the interview- 52:39. Knock, knock. Who's there? Lincoln. Lincoln who? Lincoln the shownotes. Too Like The Lightning, the Terra Ignota series by Dr Ada Palmer: https://adapalmer.com/publication/too-like-the-lightning/ The Atrocity Archive, The Laundry Files series by Charles Stross: http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2016/04/faq-the-laundry-filesseries-ti.html Walkaway by Cory Doctorow: https://craphound.com/category/walkaway/ Blindsight by Peter Watts: https://www.rifters.com/real/Blindsight.htm Cory Doctorow's article in Locus about Cold Equations and moral hazard: https://locusmag.com/2014/03/cory-doctorow-cold-equations-and-moral-hazard/ Meaningness, an online HTML book by David Chapman: https://meaningness.com/ Blankets, a graphic novel by Craig Thompson: https://smile.amazon.com/Blankets-Craig-Thompson/dp/177046218X Distress by Greg Egan: https://www.gregegan.net/DISTRESS/DISTRESS.html "I Can't Stop Watching Contagion" by Dan Olson: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsSzrVhdVuw&vl=en

Dan and James discuss the recent "grievance studies" hoax, whereby three people spent a year writing twenty-one fake manuscripts for submission to various cultural studies journals. They also discuss a new proposal to shift publication culture in which researchers pledge to publish exclusively in community-run journals but only when a pre-specified threshold of support for this commitment by the research community has been met. Here's an overview of the episode: - It’s fat bear week! - The new proposal to fix the stranglehold of commercial publishers in academia - Flipping journals to open access - The ‘grievance studies’ hoax - When James first came across the “dog rape” paper - What if you were to design the dog study properly? - Should we systematically try and hoax journals? - Astronomy already injects fake data, can we learn from this? - Should these new hoaxes all be associated with Sokal? Links - Brian Resnick’s fat bear week story: https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2018/10/9/17955432/fat-bear-week-katmai-national-park-409-747-salmon - https://freeourknowledge.org - Paywall the movie: https://paywallthemovie.com - The ‘grievance studies’ hoax: https://areomagazine.com/2018/10/02/academic-grievance-studies-and-the-corruption-of-scholarship/ - James’ thread on the “dog-rape” study: https://twitter.com/jamesheathers/status/1048313273563668486 - The proposal for systematic hoaxing: https://twitter.com/Meaningness/status/1047507838493499392 - A tweet from one of the reviewers of the dog paper: https://twitter.com/dwschieber/status/1047497301021798400 - Fake (a.k.a. blind) injection in astronomy: https://www.ligo.org/news/blind-injection - The original Sokal paper: http://www.physics.nyu.edu/sokal/transgressv2/transgressv2_singlefile.html - Dan on twitter: https://www.twitter.com/dsquintana - James on twitter: https://www.twitter.com/jamesheathers - Everything Hertz on twitter: https://www.twitter.com/hertzpodcast - Everything Hertz on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/everythinghertzpodcast/ Music credits: Lee Rosevere freemusicarchive.org/music/Lee_Rosevere/

EPISODE 59 // It's another philosophy episode! We devote Act II of our podcast to David Chapman, the philosopher who wrote meaningness.com (an online book) and has dedicated his life to figuring how to live life with purpose and all sorts of other good stuff. Along the way we talk eternalism and nihilism; like a high-school student angry at his chemistry teacher, we are striking a balance. Also we do a special Clare (April) Corner in Act I. So that's cool too.   Plugs this week: Allbirds shoes (Kate) Thai curry paste (Hao) Buddhism for Vampires (Jack)   downersradio@gmail.com // @downersradio // #linkedfemale

In deze uber speciale en extra lange crossover aflevering met Wietse van de Appels en Peren Show bespreken we het laatste artikel van Stephen Hawking over het multiversum, filosoferen we over het nut (of nutteloosheid) van filosofie en bespreken we de onlangs verschenen film Annihilation. Tip, luister de podcast, laat het even op je inwerken, luister het nog een keer en laat ons dan weten wat je ervan vond :D Veel luisterplezier! --- 0:00 Intro 7:23 #factcheck 8:41 Stephen Hawking ‘A Smooth Exit From Eternal Inflation’ 51:58 Wetenschap vs Filosofie 1:54:30 Film: Annihilation ## Links: [Appels en Peren Show](http://appelsenperenshow.nl) [Stephen Hawking’s final paper](https://www.forbes.com/sites/startswithabang/2018/03/21/i-am-an-astrophysicist-heres-what-stephen-hawkings-final-paper-was-actually-about/#54893c891fe2) [Science vs Philosophy](http://bigthink.com/errors-we-live-by/why-are-scientists-philosophers-fighting-again) [The Last Question](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojEq-tTjcc0) [Optimistic Nihilism](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBRqu0YOH14&t=3s) [Dialetheism](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialetheism) [The Wizard and the Prophet](https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/34959327-the-wizard-and-the-prophet?from_search=true) [Meaningness](https://meaningness.com/what-is-meaningness) [Film: Annihilation](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2798920/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1) --- Heb je interessante onderwerpen, feedback of andere dingen die je graag met ons deelt, wij zijn bereikbaar via: Facebook: facebook.com/zeepcast Twitter: @ZeepCast Website: zeepcast.nl Live Long and Prosper //

Rahoita podcastin tekoa Patreonissa. Pienikin tuki auttaa! https://www.patreon.com/vistbacka Videoversio: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfPZfudWd2U RSS: http://feeds.soundcloud.com/users/soundcloud:users:358481639/sounds.rss Podcastin 15. jaksossa podcastin vetäjä Henry Vistbacka keskustelee keskenään. Jakso taltioitiin 27.11.2017 Jaksossa käsiteltyjä teemoja: • Spontaanius • Podcastaus • Lajityypilliset asennot • Digitaalikommunikaatioteknologiat ja niiden kritiikki • Käyttöliittymät • Kehollisuus • Somen addiktoivuus • Kasvottoman kommunikaation epäinhimillistävä vaikutus • Lynkkaus • Merkityksellisyys • Metamodernismi • Suuri narratiivi • Atomisoituminen • Ristiriitaisuus • Kyynisyys • Kuplautuminen • Tarinallisuus • Ihmisen potentiaali • Liiallinen individualismi ja liiallinen kollektivismi • Perustulo ja automaatio • Yhdessä tekeminen ja osallistuminen • Ekologiset kriisit yhdistävänä narratiivina • Pelillistäminen • Romahdus • Kyyninen optimismi • Luottamus elämään • Heittäytyminen • Epäonnistuminen Linkkejä keskustelun tiimoilta: • Jaron Lanierin haastattelu: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/08/style/jaron-lanier-new-memoir.html • Jaron Lanierin kirja "Dawn of the New Everything": https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/23848323-dawn-of-the-new-everything • Imogen Heapin midipuku: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6btFObRRD9k • Postaus kostamisesta: https://www.facebook.com/erisgumma/posts/10155357740333772 • Artikkeli "The Making of an American Nazi": https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/12/the-making-of-an-american-nazi/544119/ • Tristan Harris Sam Harrisin podcastissa: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlPF9_1VIso • Tristan Harrisin projekti Time Well Spent / Center for Humane Technology: http://humanetech.com/ • Tristan Harrisin artikkeli "How Technology Hijacks People’s Minds — from a Magician and Google’s Design Ethicist": http://www.tristanharris.com/2016/05/how-technology-hijacks-peoples-minds%E2%80%8A-%E2%80%8Afrom-a-magician-and-googles-design-ethicist/ • Meaningness-hyperkirja: https://meaningness.com/ • Ihmisiä, siis eläimiä -podcastin jakso Lilja Tammisen kanssa: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpanwjVAilU • Meaningness-hyperkirjan artikkeli atomisoitumisesta: https://meaningness.com/atomized-mode • Tarina kymmenestä simpanssista, jonka kuvaamaa tutkimusta ei ilmeisesti ole koskaan oikeasti tehty: https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/6828/was-the-experiment-with-five-monkeys-a-ladder-a-banana-and-a-water-spray-condu • Patreon-sivu, jonka kautta tämän podcastin tekemistä voi tukea: http://patreon.com/inspiraatiokanava • Facebook-sivuni: https://facebook.com/erisgumma • Twitter-sivuni: https://twitter.com/erisgumma ----- Ihmisiä, siis eläimiä -podcast rakastaa ymmärrystä avartavia näkökulmia. Syvän tiedonjanon ajaman ohjelman visiona on luoda asioiden ytimeen pureutuvaa, hitaampaa mediaa. Podcastin keskeisiä teemoja ovat tiede ja taide, tavallinen ja erikoinen, yksilö ja yhteiskunta sekä ihminen ja muu luonto. Ohjelman vetäjä, ymmärrykseltään keskeneräinen mutta utelias Henry Vistbacka on sekatekijä, muusikko ja kirjoittaja. Podcastin yhteistyökumppanina toimii Helsingin Vallilassa päämajaansa pitävä, tiedettä raaka-aineenaan käyttävä taiteellinen tuotantoyhtiö Artlab. • Facebook: https://facebook.com/ihmisiis • Twitter: https://twitter.com/ihmisiis • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ihmisiis • Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/ihmisiis • Kieku: https://www.kieku.com/channel/Ihmisi%C3%A4%2C%20siis%20el%C3%A4imi%C3%A4 • Studio podcastin takana: https://artlab.fi

Scientist, programmer, and author David Chapman talks with Michael W. Taft about metarationality, emptiness and form, nihilism, tantrism, dzogchen, Kegan’s stages of development applied to meditation, vampire romance novels, and the importance of being able to switch reality tunnels.David Chapman is a writer, computer scientist, engineer, and Buddhist practitioner. He’s been practicing Vajrayana Buddhism in the Aro Ter tradition for 20 years. David is a leading proponent of metarationality—a subject we’ll go into in some depth in this episode—and writes about it on his website Meaningness.com. Show notes1:43 – What is metarationality? 2:45 – What happens when you run off the edge of the map? 4:44 – Pattern and nebulosity, emptiness and form 6:45 – Story of scientist Barbara McClintock, and epicycles 13:30 – Donald Schön & design creativity 14:37 – Ways to deal with system failure, Nihilism 17:28 – Timothy Leary & Robert Anton Wilson, switching between reality tunnels 20:22 – Is metarationality just a larger rationality? 22:15 – David’s vampire romance novel, Ken Wilber’s novel Boomeritis 23:38 – What does metarationality have to do with meditation and Buddhism? 24:27 – Seeing the relationship between thought and reality 27:57 – Metarationality as a signpost of deep awakening 30:31 – Dzogchen and Advaita – are practices of view simply indoctrination? 32:17 – Metarationality as a path beyond postmodernism 33:09 – Fundamentalism as a huge LARP, Eternalism vs. Nihilism 36:06 – Spiral dynamics & Robert Kegan’s stages of adult development Link to Wilber/Kegan dialog (Warning: behind a paywall) 41:20 – What a Kegan Stage 3 group looks like in American Buddhist sanghas 43:23 – Transitioning to Stage 4, examples in relation to Buddhist practice and sanghas 44:22 – The edge of the map and the lack of support for Stage 5 in Buddhist communities 46:22 – Kegan Stage 4.5, rejecting systems for their limitations, and how to get to Stage 5 47:25 – The importance of intersubjectivity 49:20 – Future echoes of David’s teaching of metarationality 50:21 – Engaging metarationality in ways that don’t involve meditation, Bongard problems, and the word “intuition” 54:33 – Vipassana techniques for generating intuition 57:43 – Do we need gurus/lamas to transmit deep understanding? 1:04:20 – Students covering up their teacher’s crimes 1:05:33 – The desire to be metarational and the dangers of self-diagnosing your Kegan stage 1:07:54 – David’s background in artificial intelligence and philosophy 1:10:19 – Is AI dangerous?You can help to create future episodes of this podcast by contributing through Patreon.

Scientist, programmer, and author David Chapman talks with Michael W. Taft about metarationality, emptiness and form, nihilism, tantrism, dzogchen, Kegan’s stages of development applied to meditation, vampire romance novels, and the importance of being able to switch reality tunnels.David Chapman is a writer, computer scientist, engineer, and Buddhist practitioner. He’s been practicing Vajrayana Buddhism in the Aro Ter tradition for 20 years. David is a leading proponent of metarationality—a subject we’ll go into in some depth in this episode—and writes about it on his website Meaningness.com. Show notes1:43 – What is metarationality? 2:45 – What happens when you run off the edge of the map? 4:44 – Pattern and nebulosity, emptiness and form 6:45 – Story of scientist Barbara McClintock, and epicycles 13:30 – Donald Schön & design creativity 14:37 – Ways to deal with system failure, Nihilism 17:28 – Timothy Leary & Robert Anton Wilson, switching between reality tunnels 20:22 – Is metarationality just a larger rationality? 22:15 – David’s vampire romance novel, Ken Wilber’s novel Boomeritis 23:38 – What does metarationality have to do with meditation and Buddhism? 24:27 – Seeing the relationship between thought and reality 27:57 – Metarationality as a signpost of deep awakening 30:31 – Dzogchen and Advaita – are practices of view simply indoctrination? 32:17 – Metarationality as a path beyond postmodernism 33:09 – Fundamentalism as a huge LARP, Eternalism vs. Nihilism 36:06 – Spiral dynamics & Robert Kegan’s stages of adult development Link to Wilber/Kegan dialog (Warning: behind a paywall) 41:20 – What a Kegan Stage 3 group looks like in American Buddhist sanghas 43:23 – Transitioning to Stage 4, examples in relation to Buddhist practice and sanghas 44:22 – The edge of the map and the lack of support for Stage 5 in Buddhist communities 46:22 – Kegan Stage 4.5, rejecting systems for their limitations, and how to get to Stage 5 47:25 – The importance of intersubjectivity 49:20 – Future echoes of David’s teaching of metarationality 50:21 – Engaging metarationality in ways that don’t involve meditation, Bongard problems, and the word “intuition” 54:33 – Vipassana techniques for generating intuition 57:43 – Do we need gurus/lamas to transmit deep understanding? 1:04:20 – Students covering up their teacher’s crimes 1:05:33 – The desire to be metarational and the dangers of self-diagnosing your Kegan stage 1:07:54 – David’s background in artificial intelligence and philosophy 1:10:19 – Is AI dangerous?You can help to create future episodes of this podcast by contributing through Patreon.

In this episode of the imperfect Buddha podcast, we finally get round to speaking to David Chapman. For those familiar with David’s work, there is so much that could have been discussed as he writes on all manner of fascinating topics ranging from Buddhism to philosophy, psychology to Vajrayana, artificial intelligence and more. Our interests converged on the topic of maturation outside of religious and spiritual discourse with David’s recent exploration of adult development and maturation just the sort of topic that we like to explore here on the podcast. David has built on the work of Robert Keagan, an important living psychologist, in exploring adult development and maturation through five key stages. David focuses on three of them, aligning the final stage with Buddhism, in particular Dzogchen. An understanding of these stages has important consequences for Buddhists, especially considering the potential conflict between self-development, maturation and concepts such as no self, impermanence and so on. We cover additional topics such as the present and future of Buddhism in the West, the current state of university campuses in the Anglo-American world, the problem with SJW’s and post-modern theory, nihilism and determinism, practices that may shift people onwards through the last three levels of maturation and more. Enjoy! Sponsor The imperfect Buddha podcast is sponsored by O’Connell Coaching. If any of the topics in the podcast are personally relevant and/or problematic, or if you wish to explore life after Buddhism and are looking for support and guidance in personal development, an exploration of spiritual practice and transformative practices within a coaching context, follow the link to find out more: https://oconnellcoaching.com/about/ Music The imperfect Buddha podcast supports up-and-coming musicians in Bristol groups. Oliver Wilde, a Bristol musician on the Howling Owl label, provides this episode’s music. Do have a listen and if you like what you hear, support the artist at the band camp site: https://oliverwilde.bandcamp.com/track/curve-good-grief Links David’s main site is a treasure trove for the discerning explorer of personal-development, spirituality and intelligent practice. A great act of generosity designed at clearing up much confusion in the realm of spirituality, David communicates clearly and concisely. Highly recommended, Meaningness: https://meaningness.com Another of David’s sites, Vividness features an article on the podcast’s main topic: https://vividness.live/2015/10/12/developing-ethical-social-and-cognitive-competence/ Arot-ter site managed by David. Lots of good resources here: https://approachingaro.org/

David Chapman is a writer, computer scientist, engineer and Buddhist practitioner. He blogs on several sites including the hypertext book Meaningness.com. In part two of a conversation on ethics with David Chapman and Vincent Horn, the discussion continues to explore a series of blog articles that David wrote on the theme of “Buddhist ethics”. They consider the usefulness of tantric ethics, examine Western Buddhism in context of Robert Kegan’s 5-stage developmental psychology model, and they speculate on how Western Buddhism might move into a next stage (stage 5: reconstructive postmodernism) of development. This is part two of a two part series. Listen to part one “Buddhist Ethics is a Fraud”. - http://www.buddhistgeeks.com/2016/04/buddhist-ethics-fraud/ Episode Links: Meaningness.com David Chapman on Twitter “Buddhist ethics” is a fraud by David Chapman https://meaningness.wordpress.com/2015/09/23/buddhist-ethics-is-a-fraud/#summary Consensus Buddhism and Mindful Mayo Robert Kegan https://www.gse.harvard.edu/faculty/robert-kegan In Over Our Heads: The Mental Demands of Modern Life. Harvard University Press, 1994. (Paperback, 1995). (German translation, Kindt Verlag, in press), (1994) by Robert Kegan http://www.hup.harvard.edu/catalog.php?isbn=9780674445888 "The Further Reaches of Adult Development" - Robert Kegan https://youtu.be/BoasM4cCHBc

David Chapman is a writer, computer scientist, engineer and Buddhist practitioner. He blogs on several sites including the hypertext book Meaningness.com. Beginning a season of episodes on the theme of ethics, Vincent Horn welcomes David to explore a series of blog articles that David wrote on the theme of “Buddhist ethics.” Together they question some long held secular, leftish beliefs about Buddhist ethics, they explore the distinction between morality and ethics, and they examine how Buddhist ethics are practiced in the modern age. This is part one of a two part series. Memorable Quotes:“Shakyamuni Buddha, 2,500 years ago, taught exactly the same ethics that was only rediscovered in California 30 years ago. He was a feminist, and sexually liberal, and environmentally conscious, and anti-racist. So great, we've got this religion that completely validates all the correct ethical positions and it's 2,500 years old.” - David ChapmanEpisode Links: Meaningness.com - http://meaningness.com David Chapman on Twitter - https://twitter.com/Meaningness “Buddhist ethics” is a fraud by David Chapman - https://meaningness.wordpress.com/2015/09/23/buddhist-ethics-is-a-fraud/#summary “Buddhist Ethics: A Very Short Introduction” by Damien Keown - http://www.amazon.com/Buddhist-Ethics-Very-Short-Introduction/dp/019280457X Is “Buddhist ethics” Buddhist? by Amod Lele - http://loveofallwisdom.com/blog/2015/10/is-buddhist-ethics-buddhist/ ] Mindfulness is More Than Just Paying Attention (with Ron Purser) - http://www.buddhistgeeks.com/2013/06/bg-288-mindfulness-is-more-than-just-paying-attention/ “Ethics” is advertising by David Chapman - https://meaningness.wordpress.com/2015/10/05/buddhist-ethics-is-advertising Consensus Buddhism and Mindful Mayo - https://art19.com/shows/buddhist-geeks/episodes/31a00eb8-ecc4-4ccc-af2b-81bf72254f72

David Chapman is a writer, computer scientist, engineer and Buddhist practitioner. He blogs on several sites including Meaningness, Approaching Aro, and Buddhism for Vampires. In this episode, David joins host Vincent Horn for a discussion on the topic of Buddhist Tantra. Beginning by stating his interest and intentions with recent writing on Buddhist Tantra, David gives a quick definition of Tantra and begins to unpack that definition and how it relates to Buddhism. Vincent and David then discuss whether or not Buddhism is in some ways opposed to passion, where and when Tantric elements are apparent in various traditions, and what modern Buddhist Tantra may look like and why it may have been suppressed in Western Buddhism. This is part one of a two part series. Listen to part two BG 314: Creating Living Ritual. Episode Links: Meaningness ( http://meaningness.wordpress.com ) Consensus Buddhism and Mindful Mayo ( http://bit.ly/1JMITFN )

David Chapman is a writer, computer scientist, engineer and Buddhist practitioner. He blogs on several sites including Meaningness, Approaching Aro, and Buddhism for Vampires. In this episode, David joins host Vincent Horn for the second part of their discussion on the challenges facing the reinvention of Buddhist Tantra. David first compares “zombie ritual” with “living ritual”, pointing out the ideal characteristics of useful ritual practices. David and Vincent then examine the importance of participatory ritual in communities, the rate of innovation in contemporary ritual, and how lineage relates to the forming and maintaining of ritual. This is part two of a two part series. Listen to part one BG 313: Reinventing Buddhist Tantra. Episode Links: Meaningness ( http://meaningness.wordpress.com )