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This week we welcome back Baton Rouge-based interior designer Rachel Cannon, who reminds us that our home is our space and we can (and should) design it specifically for our personal needs! Rachel shares her philosophy on designing for introverts and creating quiet spaces in homes. She discusses the importance of traditional floor plans and the impact of the pandemic on home design, and introduces her new venture, RCL Organizing. Rachel also offers insights on balancing open and closed spaces, designing for individual needs, and the challenges of organizing a home for longevity. What You'll Hear On This Episode Rachel's philosophy on designing for introverts and creating quiet spaces in homes. The benefits of traditional floor plans over open concept designs. Introduction to Rachel's new venture, RCL Organizing, and its focus on integrating organization into the design process. The importance of understanding clients' habits and preferences when designing spaces. Beautiful ways to store and organize beauty products. Challenges of organizing and maintaining a home, including Rachel's personal experiences. Tips on balancing structure and flexibility in home design. Designing for different life stages and the need for adaptability. The balance between open vs. closed floor plans in a home. Also Mentioned: Ballard Designs Rachel Cannon Decorating Dilemma: Follow along with pictures of this week's decorating dilemma here on the How to Decorate blog. Hi Alex! It's great to hear you're tackling your den as the first room to finish in your new home - that's such a smart approach. Rachel has some wonderful suggestions to help you create a cozy, personalized retreat for your family. First, regarding the dark red brick fireplace that you feel is an "eyesore" in its current state - Rachel strongly recommends painting it the same soft blue color as your walls and trim. This will help the fireplace blend in seamlessly and eliminate that jarring contrast. It's a simple but impactful change that can really elevate the whole space. As for your vintage, hand-tied wool rug, Rachel reassures you that it's a beautiful, timeless piece. She advises keeping it as the foundation for the room's color palette, rather than trying to replace it. The pattern and quality are lovely, and they will provide that fresh take on the Southern traditional style you're going for. When it comes to the coffee table, Rachel thinks an upholstered ottoman could be a great option. The key is to choose one with legs, which will give it a more tailored, contemporary look to balance out the traditional elements in the room. And with a young child, the soft surface can be a practical and comfortable choice for little ones to play on. Rachel suggests pairing the ottoman with two skirted chairs in a darker blue fabric to tie everything together. She also recommends rearranging the bird artwork - perhaps grouping the two pieces closer together on a smaller wall, and then adding a larger statement piece over the sofa to create more visual balance. Thanks so much and happy decorating! 

This week's question is all about managing the unknown “urgencies” that will come up each day. You can subscribe to this podcast on: Podbean | Apple Podcasts | Stitcher | Spotify | TUNEIN Links: Email Me | Twitter | Facebook | Website | Linkedin The CP Learning Centre Membership Programme The Working With… Weekly Newsletter The FREE Beginners Guide To Building Your Own COD System Carl Pullein Learning Centre Carl's YouTube Channel Carl Pullein Coaching Programmes The Working With… Podcast Previous episodes page Hello, and welcome to episode 294 of the Working With Podcast. A podcast to answer all your questions about productivity, time management, self-development and goal planning. My name is Carl Pullein, and I am your host for this show. How often are your planned days destroyed by something you never even considered when you began your day? It's likely to be frequent. That's just the nature of life. It's always been that way, and it always will be that way. It's something we need to work with, though, and to develop ways to overcome the worst effects of these unknowns.  That's one of the reasons why the Time Sector System can be so powerful. If you set things up—knowing what your areas of focus and core work are, then you have a built-in prioritisation method that will help you to sort the important urgencies from the less important ones.  I have to be honest. I have never worked in a job where everything was predictable. There has never been a day where nothing unexpected happened. Take today as an example. When I began the day, I had four hours of meetings booked in the morning and three hours in the evening. By the time I had completed my morning routines, half of those morning meetings had been cancelled.  So, with all that explained, let me hand you over to the Mystery Podcast Voice for this week's question.  This week's question comes from Alex. Alex asks, Hi Carl, I like the idea of the Time Sector System, but the bit I am not sure about is how you deal with all the unknown tasks that need to be done in a given week. What do you do with those tasks?  Hi Alex, thank you for your question. This has always been an issue for people since the first humans evolved many hundreds of thousands of years ago. After a night's rest, we would wake up with the plan to find food. If, during the night, you were surrounded by some hungry predators, your focus at that moment was no longer on finding food but on finding safety. Your survival instincts kicked in and overrode your hunger instincts.  Today, while things are no longer as black and white, we are still facing similar dilemmas. Now, instead of a choice between food and safety, we are faced with a choice between writing the report that needs to be finished tomorrow or dealing with our boss's demand for an update on a project you are working on.  Or, as in the case of a client of mine attending a meeting or dealing with a flat tire she just discovered.  It's very rare for your day to go according to plan, yet I would still recommend you make a plan.  Making a plan is less about what you intend to do and more about setting the direction for the day. For example, one of my tasks today is to write this podcast script. It would be fantastic if I were able to finish it in a single day, but the chances of that happening are slim. However, if I can make a start on it and get, say, 30 or 40% of it written before the day's end, that would be good enough. I would be happy with the outcome.  The Time Sector system is about setting yourself realistic expectations about what can be accomplished in the week. It's about identifying what is really important and being able to recognise when something that appears important is not really important at all. Once you know what is important, you very quickly learn what is not and can either ignore it or delegate it. Let's imagine you have decided that anything your boss asks you to do on top of the work you are employed to do is urgent and important; then what you have decided is to allow yourself to be overwhelmed and stressed. There's a limit to what you can do each day and week. If you prioritise the unknown over the known, you've just set yourself up for a very stressful life.  The Time Sector System teaches you to quickly identify what is important so that when something does come across your desk (or through Teams or email), you can identify whether it needs your attention right now or can wait until another day.  I saw that someone had written on a discussion board that the Time Sector System doesn't work because it does not allow for sudden tasks coming in. That's not an accurate assessment of what the Time Sector System is. What is an accurate description is you prioritise the important so that when something new does come in, you can make a qualified decision based on what you have identified as being important that week.  Right now, my accountant is drawing up my annual accounts. Each day, she sends me requests for further information, which I need to action that same day. I have no idea what she will ask me for; all I know is there will be something requested. There's no point in me scheduling time each day for this, as sometimes it may only require ten minutes; other times, it could require an hour to find the information. However, when a request comes in, I measure its importance against what else I have planned for the day and can decide whether I need to reschedule something or work a little longer that day.  The important thing is I know what I want to and need to do that day before I begin the day. If I have sudden urgent requests to deal with, then great, I can decide that is where I will apply my time that day.  Whether you use the Time Sector System or not, you will still need to deal with a lot of unknowns. These are a part of life and always will be. Having a method or a strategy for handling these is a critical step to becoming more productive.  It's also important to ensure you have a solid collecting system. Many things will come at you today while you are working on something important or are with a customer. You are not going to be able to stop and deal with that immediately, so you should be collecting it somewhere where you can assess its importance when you finish what you are doing.  However, before you can accurately assess what is important, you need to know what important looks like. This is why there are two critical preliminary parts to creating a solid productivity system. That is to identify and define what your areas of focus are—while we all share the same eight areas, how we define these will be different for all of us. Equally, the action steps we need to take to keep these in balance will also be different. The second part is to define what your core work is—the work you are employed to do.  If you want to learn how to define and develop your areas of focus, you can download the FREE Areas Of Focus Workbook from my website's downloads page. I'll put a link to that in the show notes If you skip working on these two parts, everything that comes at you will be considered important. You have no frame of reference to determine what is critical and what is not. This means a demand from a boss or client will be very loud, and you'll panic and rush to get whatever you are being asked to do done instead of pausing and assessing whether it is important or not.  Now, if you have decided dealing with any request from your boss or customers is part of your core work, then fine. You made that decision, and when a demand comes in, you deal with it. However, for the most part, requests from customers and bosses are not always going to be “urgent”; they can wait until you have finished whatever it is you are doing or what is the most important thing that needs doing right now.  Another reason why you should be pausing and not rushing to deal with demands as they come in is you miss the opportunity to chunk similar tasks together. Chunking (or grouping) similar tasks is one of the most effective and efficient ways to deal with your work. It prevents context switching—which is very draining on your mental energy—and because you are working on similar tasks at the same time, you will be more focused.  A good example of this is managing messages. It's accepted that going in and out of your email and Teams inbox all day is not a very effective strategy if you want to get important work done. It's why one of the best new features in the last ten years or so has been the ability to turn on Do Not Disturb so you can focus on the work in front of you instead of being inundated with notifications and distracted.  How often do you use this feature?  Managing email and messages should be broken down into two parts. The processing—where you decide what something is and what needs to be done with it—and the doing, where you deal with all your actionable messages.  Processing can be done anytime, although I recommend you do this in between sessions of work. For example, when in a meeting, you turn on Do Not Disturb so you can focus on the meeting. Once the meeting ends, you can open up your mail and messages and move anything actionable into an Action this Day folder.  Then, later in the day—as late in the day as you feel comfortable with, you set aside time to focus on dealing with those messages. I've found that those who do this are more focused and less stressed. Those that don't are not.  At it's very basic, Alex; you collect throughout the day, then before you finish, you go through what you collected and decide what needs to be done and when you will do it. If it needs to be done this week, then you can decide when you will do it based on the other work you have and what your calendar tells you about how much time you have available. If you are squeezed and have little time, you always have the option to “negotiate” with the other person about when you will do it—and that means your bosses and clients. You'll be surprised how accommodating people are—after all, they are likely to be just as busy as you.  I hope that has helped, Alex. Thank you for your question, and thank you to you for listening. It just remains for me now to wish you all. Very, very productive week.   

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0:14 Hello, and thank you very much for listening to this episode of The Billy Newman photo podcast. Today I wanted to talk to you about something, maybe important, but do you use a VPN? I don't use a VPN, and I probably rarely do. But I'm kind of figuring out now like how many pieces of information routers pick up and your ISP picks up about your traffic. And I'm trying to finally figure out what HTTPS is good for, like HTTP exists, like what we remember in the 90s, typing that into Netscape trying to get to our first web domain. Or we have HTTPS now, which is the secure hypertext transport protocol. And I guess that encrypts the data that's transmitted across that protocol before that HTTP had just an open protocol where you could still read the contents of data that was being routed to that page. So at least, I guess with HTTPS, that data is encrypted, like your banking data is encrypted, or your payment data is encrypted, and it can't be siphoned off in some man-in-the-middle attack, I guess, apparently, or unless that didn't work that time. That's sort of how hacks always work. Oh, yeah, it's protected. But except for that thing that it didn't work for. We weren't protected by that. Okay, well, so if you are interested, I think a VPN is sort of an interesting way where you can create a virtual private network is what it stands for. Many of them are paid, and many of them seem to be free. I think the probably the best one to jump into if you're interested in something like Tor or the Tor Browser, the Tor router when they talk about that, I think it's like a virtual private network system that kind of jumps you around to different IP addresses before it finally spits it out somewhere. And what that allows you to do is sort of anonymizing the the registry information that would be tracked about your connection to the Internet. At that router, is interesting. I've been learning all sorts of stuff about all the things that attract and sort of where it logs the router information. Wild to know about but man, it's it makes you think a little bit about all the different things that you're tracked on over the internet, everywhere. Crazy stuff. It's a weird world that we're gonna live the weird world we will live in over the next 15 to 20 years like the last 15 to 20 haven't been so 2:39 you can see more of my work at Billy Newman photo comm you can check out some of my photo books on Amazon. I think you can look at Billy Newman under the author's section there and see some of the photo books on film on the desert, on surrealism on camping, and cool stuff over there. But this week, I want to talk about some of the past truck travel stuff that we've done, and I think you're the guy who inspired me to get a truck at the first man I got a truck gotta have a truck. Strangely, though, most of my road trip travel has been stolen camera and the cameraman. 3:22 But that camera was legendary. 3:24 It was legit. It was absolutely legendary. But for today's episode we're thinking about doing was kind of breaking down a couple of the stories in the past we had about doing some overland stuff, some overland, like travel, if you can call it overland. I don't know that's like a heavy word. I think that's a modern word, right? Like this term. I've seen that around like overland where people have seen a lot of that. Yeah, it seems to be kind of the trendy sort of rich guy word to say for Whelan. I'm going Madden. Landrover Madden or four, four wheeling or something. You take that overlanding overland 3:58 excursion? 3:59 Oh yeah, it's always that but i think that's kind of a funny part of it. But I see like a ton of that stuff. I got into that, like, I got into that stuff back in 2011. Like the overland travel Have you ever seen like the magazine overland journal? 4:12 Is that inactive? 4:14 I think so. Yeah, I don't know. It's like sort of a niche. It's a niche category. Like this whole thing. So it's where it's like that thing. You'd never find it unless you looked for it. But it's kind of it's interesting. There's tons of stuff out there like that, but that's one of the first ones that I ran into. And that's like, that's when I had like the Camry and I was back in college and stuff. And you know, that's when I first really wanted to get because I couldn't get a Landrover from the 70s I really wanted to get like a roof rack and a top box. I was I was like set on that because if I could get that, that was like that was like my that was my version of making like a Camry into an overland vehicle, you know, because I'm going to get into this but I'm 20 and I've got 138 bucks, so we're going with that. Yeah. Without as a part of it so yeah I remember setting up like like setting up the car that the roof the roof top or the top box you know man those are those are like super handy like and that was great on the on the camera when I had it but that was all kind of what was yours 5:12 you had like that that top box 5:15 yeah it was a I forget what it is now I think there's like the excursion that I had at a time and then there was like the summit model that 5:24 we didn't have the overland model didn't 5:26 I missed out on both of these were like oh man they were like you know I don't know the early 90s maybe late night early mid 90s or something that's like when the plastic was produced that's when that thing was called New and now it was just sitting on my my equally old aged car gonna go around and grab those things hold their value like crazy I picked mine up both of mine I think now three of them in total I picked three of those top boxes up oh on Craigslist was for different cars and stuff I got a little fat one for the for the Camry I've had one for the truck and we got one from Marina CRV or what do you say the truck I mean the old foreigner let's get into that later too but that long one on the old foreigner so I bought like a few of them and I always bought them on us like on Craigslist or something right like yeah it's like new they're like five or 600 bucks to get into this cheap man yeah it's yeah super frustrating so even when they're used they're they're still floating in like for good ones or for like stuff from the 2000s that sort of the more modern clamping systems or you know when they actually made it they made it better you know where you can put it off take it on and off your car without putting together like a bunch of plates wing brackets made out 6:38 to spend the whole afternoon doing yeah it's 6:39 great because he would always like you know mess up you get stuck in some situation like that when you like I think one time we had to move we'd like it was you and I Robert and Scott and we had to like move that that that top box we're talking about to the oh yeah to the raft right and we were going on that snowboard trip so we had to like pack we had to put it on and like put like a bunch of snowboards on or something. And it was just like it was just like snow and slash and it's kind of raining you got like you don't even have a headlamp you've just got like a light kind of crimped on your shoulder and neck. As you're kind of trying to twist this wing that back and forth to make sure that this thing's tight in the right spot. It was such a pain man, it was so awful. So after that they made like more simple clamp systems that work better. But man those are like still like 300 250 like the low end range. Like the second like us. Yeah, the stuff broken. I just sold one for like, 85 that was that like a big chunk missing out of it? Oh, geez. Yeah, it's not Yeah, it's like it's a gold. At least I don't know, it seems like in Eugene May. In Southern Oregon, it was a lot harder. I think I had one and never sold. But it seemed like in Eugene and in Corvallis and Portland, or, like, you know, where that that that string of Hebrews and topsoccer Yeah, right. exists all those all those overlanders out there. Mm hmm. But that was my foray into into understanding what overlanding was because I was interested in like that overland journal and so I'd like watch or watch the stuff that was coming out in that and it was just really all stuff all equipment that was unattainable that you look at like the sweet trucks and there's so many cool like land or the length that the Toyota Land Cruisers but they Yeah, they said that they never built in America. Have you seen those? Oh, yeah, they're awesome. They're so cool. Yeah, like all the other ones that Australia got and like South Africa got those are like the coolest cars ever like 8:34 that you see out there. Yeah, they're so great. I would love to have Yeah, just this sweet 8:38 diesel. Left hand drive. Right hand drive. Like Yeah, Land Cruiser track. Like there's the the Toyota trooper, if anybody's listening and they Google that it's like this, this crazy track that they made for the military that Toyota made for the military. That's like a troop carrier. But it's a Land Cruiser, but it's just got like a long back end. And it's kind of squared off so you can you can fit two benches in there to load 12 guys, or whatever, whatever. psyllium is in the back, but it just looks like Oh, man, that'd be the coolest like camper. Yeah, you take that thing. It's like, so like the F j 40. c like the old ones that look like the the Willys Jeep. Have you seen that? Oh, yeah. That and that was kind of like the one of the Jeep models that they look Yeah, Toyota's Japanese right. Yeah, of course they are but I don't know where else they they sold like their equipment to for like military use. But it seemed like the F j and the Land Cruiser line is used like with them as a military vehicle all over the world. Have you seen that? Like it's the I'm not really familiar with that? No, or not like a military vehicle, but like, like, we have a jeep. And then we have a tank but we have the Jeep? Like they have they have the Toyota they have a Land Cruiser. Or like a Ilex, right, like your old truck, your old pickup truck. 9:58 Yeah, okay. I know what you're talking about. Yeah. 10:00 The old pickup truck. Yes. 10:04 It was the best part about my old one. Yeah. Oh yeah. And so but it won't get rid of it. I still have. 10:09 It's the coolest truck but I remember learning about like, Oh, it was just weird when I found out like about American nations were in america that's called a pickup. Like that's that's a pickup truck. But out of the country, the truck is called a Hi Alex. I'd seen that. Yeah, the international version. The International name for the pickup was the Toyota Hilux. And it's like, it's got that like emblem in it. Yeah. So they'd sell these Toyota pickup trucks like Saudi Arabia or like ISIS, man, like okay, so yeah, like all the ice like the footage from ISIS. That's like, why are they all in these like us Toyota's bassinet across the section of Syria, it's because the military had bought Toyota's as helixes like new ones they're like it's just like I'm sweet Tacoma or something you know it's just like rigged up to ride around out in the desert it's probably a great Chuck for it but that's 11:02 why we should be ISIS is to get all 11:05 we need all those sweet Toyota's back now it was a big land that was like a gag in the news for a while because like all the footage from from whatever was going on which show these people but they were like next to these like old like old pickups like yours with with a with like a gun mounted mounted in the back like 11:26 that yeah 11:29 but yeah you think about like all that all that crazy stuff that I think that was like the highlight stuff that Toyota was like for runners out of the country they're called serfs. Really yeah way cooler name to kind of call a foreigner. a serf I'm not gonna 11:44 run it it's kind of redundant like I mean no matter what you have it's got 11:47 Yeah, it's like well, I mean we expected it would it would have four wheels or it's a big truck I guess it should have four wheel drive or whatever whatever it's insinuating but but yeah, out of the country was called the surf I've seen a few of them pass by like you'd see him out there you'd be driving around and people are real proud of it especially in the overland scene or that like that backwoods see man people get real proud of their their rigs that they have set up but but we saw one that was like this diesel surf that this guy had imported I don't know what the rules are on that either. Yeah, if it's I think if the if the guy's a US citizen, I think it couldn't happen but I think if you're in Canada you can you can have you can have one registered and then drive it into the united states i think is where we see a lot of those vehicles. 12:33 Well we need to make some buddies in Canada 12:36 if we need that man I need I need a diesel 90s foreigner I don't know like 12:42 commuting 12:45 Have you seen like the Mitsubishi Delica that's another that's another sought after it yeah 12:51 it's low in my mind here 12:53 yeah that Miss it's a it's another kind of wasn't that wasn't built in the United States right but it's for well it's become really popular and like that van life van life culture where people you know, like I pretty much like what we were doing the Camry six years ago. But But finding it relatively decently and they get like a van. And like it's become really popular to get this Mitsubishi Delica. They made it through the 80s. It was sort of a competitor to the to the Volkswagen line of vans that were out at that time that were kind of camping focused, but it was cool. The Delica was cool, because it was a diesel van but it was four wheel drive. It was like it was timing like Mitsubishi was just making a bunch of four wheel drive stuff probably like the Colt Vista. 13:36 That's exactly what was just kind of you don't know what to call this is you're listening to this podcast go go look it up. And that was that was your first car Billy. 13:46 And it was the best car. It was the best. It was the best car it was the worst guy but it was really though it was the worst car 13:54 I bet if you had that now and just put a little bit of money into it somebody Yeah, somebody would pick that up. Yeah, in the Portland area. 14:03 I put some studded tires on that a roof right? Oh, yeah. an LED bar. 14:08 You want to talk about led bar. CV 14:14 Yeah, man. You remember that hatchback. If you can fit 10 people in that car. I think eight people I think I did. 14:21 I don't think that's what they approved it for. No, 14:25 I just where it was. I think it was seven people. It was what it was like rated for seven. Yeah, it was it was three rows of seats. Robert, in a compact soccer 14:35 balls are driving around in 1983. 14:38 Yeah, it was It's nuts. Yeah, there was the front two seats. The back two seats that were like bucket seats two. And then behind that there was another bench seat for three. So you had 1234567 man? Yeah, yeah, it was crazy. What a silly. 14:56 Hey, it wasn't aesthetically great, but it was a You know economy friendly that's that's for sure 15:07 the worst guy so not not an overland vehicle there I guess you could say and even still like man it was had like 14 inch tires yeah no clearance to get over anything What have 15:18 you you made it You made it happen with the camera though 15:22 I yeah I did man and I was gonna mention that too because that I had a couple experiences in the Camry you've always had a truck I guess outside of like the short time you had you had a sedan for to commute and stuff but you had like had a rig that could get some places which I always appreciated and I really noticed running into a few limitations when I was in the Camry. I wanted to talk about those It was great with the Camry because you really benefit from the gas mileage which man I would say yeah because I mean the most of a road trip in some ways like is highway miles you know you're out you got to drive from here oh yeah Wyoming so put a lot of distance in between you and where you're going yeah it man it works great having kind of a light easy car to like just bomb out to somewhere that works really well. So I appreciate some of those parts but man we ran into a few spots where we just couldn't get through and the one of the most upsetting ones to me was the sailing stones have you heard of those 16:17 before? Is that in Utah 16:19 it's in it's in the southwest it's it's Near Death Valley in California and the sailing stones is a really cool spot it was in Death Valley it's like it's in the park area but the park area is just so immense but it's it's all desolate almost nothing out there you know but you take this road it cuts back for a really long way and man we were on that gravel road for ever going back there you have to go it's it's the kind of deep wilderness you would almost call it but it's like deep in desolate country out there it's sort of well traveled because there's there's people kind of moving in and out of the park system. But we were traveling there in December I think you know when we were moving moving that direction like early December of 2012 I think is when we were there and when we were we were driving up just just on the gravel road as it was said it was a it was a gravel road the whole way there. And this part of it it just kind of went up a little bit of a grade you know just the hill the slope of the road just kind of went up maybe 1215 feet or so and then kind of rounded off leveled off and then kept going it seemed like almost nothing at all. But my car was knee high centering on it basically like you could feel like did you feel like the body like start scraping because the roll off of it was like it was just it was deeper than than my car like the angle the car and the clearance I could handle I like I couldn't get there and I'd wanted to go there all my life. Oh, so frustrated. We were like two miles or so it was like two three miles or something like well, we didn't know that because you're like in backwoods stuff and it's like, like I'm not gonna park there and hike it or something. 17:53 Yeah, and then somebody else rolls up in a vehicle that can handle it. This Camry parked in the middle of the road 17:59 there was a there was like a group of kids or like teenagers on little dirt bikes like little to hundreds and they were just like bouncing they just zoomed right past us. Like a little, a little bike. And they cruise. Right. It was nothing but yeah, it's it was not it was you would it would be totally everything could get over that except for my cars. Except the camera. So yeah, no overland that day is what it is what it was, but that story really is what ended up inspiring me to sell that Camry that winter. And then like come back in and get a foreigner like when I got that that 89 foreigner that I 18:40 thought was good. That was a good truck. I liked that route 18:42 is a good track. I bet it was a better truck earlier but man it was a great truck for me. And I really had a great time doing stuff with it was super fun. Like Yeah, and do more camping stuff. And that was really cool. But that that was the first time that I had like that truck clearance you know? 18:56 Yeah, it means just like a whole new world of opportunities opened up to you when you when you have that clearance. It's like okay, and you got four wheel drive so you can get a little more daring with where you're going. And even with that though, I found that now with my current truck, I don't have the winch on it yet. And and even that kind of dictates to what I will and will not do up in the hills. Especially if there's not another rig with me. Sure. Yeah. I really enjoyed having that. That kind of that Lifeline and that security, I guess and having that winch that I can get out of trouble if I really got myself into it. 19:39 I think that's pretty interesting. Yeah, I've never had I have had a rig with a winch on it. But I really liked it. The you always did. It was cool. I don't think we've ever used it together 19:48 when we were out. I've used it on Tyler. 19:50 Oh yeah. Yeah. Pull him out of that sandbank. Is that what it was? 19:53 Yeah. I used it on a couple times. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah you just get into a rough spot you got a tree or something you can tether off of and get yourself out 20:06 of it but i think that's pretty cool I remember you telling me a little bit about that in the past and it seems like it'd be pretty necessary if you wanted to do something more serious or more long term if you're doing like an overland trip or if you're doing some subtraction four by four stuff 20:22 oh that's a big like you know off road or it's you know but it's well I mean off road in the sense of like let's go mud and rock climbing right yeah not I'm not that but I do like to get into places where typically the you know the road kind of ends or you know, somebody hasn't been back then 30 years and there's still roadway going I think it's really cool floor 20:46 yeah I really like that part of it I really like getting to those different areas and any you really get to get through so much more land you know that way it's I found it to be really cool. 20:55 You do especially Oregon in the wintertime you know this area gets so much rain and stuff. It's hard to like you know when you after the winter you get to the end of the road you know, back back this is I don't want to beg begging I want to stay in the rig as long as I can. 21:13 Yeah, yeah it's it's definitely it's a huge part of it for me too and I care about Well yeah, you should tell me about Tell me about your pickup truck your first one that you got in high school did you that was like an ad with a straight axle right? 21:29 It was a 1980s straight axle Toyota four by four long bed and that was a great truck it still has a great track it's currently sitting under a canopy right now it hasn't run in three or four years but no, I love that truck man I drove that from the time I was 15 years until four years ago 21:49 yeah I mean that was a blast i was i was the coolest drug 21:52 yeah no I have always loved that truck and that truck would go anywhere I mean the really the only reason I got out of it was just I needed something more reliable yeah fact it's last trip was the trip that amber and I took down to Joshua Tree and I put like you know 4000 miles on it 22:12 No way I remember that trip that was yeah that was pretty cool man. 22:16 Yeah and so that was a great trip take it out on the harsh reality was you know at the time gas in California was around $5 a gallon is yeah insane I was getting about 12 miles to the gallon and you know that was rough you know it didn't have AC you know that's just little stuff like people didn't get along with that forever but 22:39 now it makes me different so I've learned a little bit too I mean like like what we both learned a little bit in this last year like having a newer truck it just solves a lot of those stresses about transportation man 22:51 well it does and that's the thing is when you're committing to a trip like that you need to know that rigs gonna be reliable it's been a huge part you need to know it's gonna start back up when you're ready to go yeah 2000 miles away from home 23:04 kill the battery i 23:05 gotta tell my truck or so yeah and the battery is not the proper oh no yeah like it's just like oh you know yeah my transmission went out or like you know I blew a head gasket or something you know, I mean that truck when I took it it had over 400,000 miles on it and and so you're just going wow, this is fun but really I just need to make sure I get it home. Yeah, you know that that's what it came down to. Yeah, I 23:35 feel like sometimes it's like driving a classic car around doesn't run as well it's maybe basil 23:41 Yeah, yeah so yeah, and then I got out from that and I bought myself a little 93 I guess it was that's our five Toyota v six pickup with little extended cab I liked having the extra room that was a great little pickup to have that nice canopy with the roof racks on it I really enjoyed that. Yeah, I like that canopy sad to see it go Yeah, it 24:10 was too bad. It's too soon you know, but too soon but I understand to think that Daddy's gonna move on or you know it's good he use it you can see it 24:21 around town every now and then. Nice. Yeah but yeah and so since I've gotten into a full size truck which I I just wonder why I didn't do so much earlier. 24:33 Oh yeah. 24:34 You know it's just just having the room the reliability you know, just all the difference in the world. 24:42 Yeah, I think so too. I was in your track like we were on when we were on that last Japanese podcast out of it yeah super clean like I dig been in there it's cool. 24:51 Yeah, it's a it's far more comfortable than it used to be, you know, cramming into the little single cab and yeah, manual transmission, and trying to You know 25:01 I remember that first trip we did in your in your old trailer your your yeah cap when we were what 16 are we going to camp up at Union Creek? Yeah What is like what is that? I've been I guess it's Central Oregon I don't know what do you call that? 25:18 I don't know what you would call that it's 25:19 a Crater Lake Area yeah it's not really central National Forest 25:24 almost right yeah 25:26 it's row River National Forest because it's the rug that runs through that is yeah yeah I think yeah, it's that that area up there man that was such a cool trip and I had a great time but man like you're saying that we just there was like the three of us right? 25:39 Yeah just packed in tight Yeah. And 25:41 I was the one that had a ride bitch in the center. You throw in the third gear then was it four years? Three years? 25:51 Yeah, it was four I ended up putting a five speed transmission I remember that at the end Yeah, yeah. But yeah, it was just that for speed you know you get it out. It was great in town stuff then he gets onto the freeway and you're just tapped out at like 65 and just you know semis are trying to pass you 26:09 is not built to go that fast I guess Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah, that was a sweet track though. Man I really had a good time in that but I remember that back in high school it was fun like making that road trip up to go camping thrown everything in the back and everybody's just crammed crammed into the bench seat. Now used to work I guess it's a little more luxurious now with the with the space I suppose. 26:39 You can check out more information at Billy Newman photo comm you can go to Billy Newman photo comm Ford slash support. If you want to help me out and participate in the value for value model that we're running this podcast with. If you receive some value out of some of the stuff that I was talking about, you're welcome to help me out and send some value my way through the portal at Billy Newman photo comm forward slash support you can also find more information there about Patreon and the way that I use it if you're interested or feel more comfortable using Patreon that's patreon.com forward slash Billy Newman photo wanted to talk today about some stuff that I've been doing this last week for the last few weeks I've been talking about some outdoor stuff and some things kind of related to the the lockdown pandemic stuff but I kind of change change what I was talking about a little bit for this podcast but I wanted to get into was some of the training stuff I've been looking into around Logic Pro 10.5 that has just come out recently and I thought it'd be kind of kind of cool to go over a little bit of an overview of some of the new features and stuff that are there and some of the stuff that you can do with a digital audio workstation and and why why bother talking about it but I think it was about about a year ago or so. I was talking about setting up the studio in the house that I met here and how I was getting the PC computer ready to go is an older one. I think like something from some desktop I had around from from 2010 or 11 or so. Yeah, yeah, by that time. And I remember getting that computer set up with a I think it was like Windows 10 on it. And then I was using I think the same audio interface USB out into the computer and then I had downloaded I had downloaded sonar, the new version of sonar that you can get for free. I think it had been owned by both cakewalk sonar. And then I think Gibson had bought out cakewalk. And so it became Gibson sonar, and then I think Gibson decided that wasn't going to be part of their business anymore. So I think they just kind of shut it down, essentially, but then sold that off to band lab comm band labs, I think my Internet's another internet company they have kind of a simplified digital audio workstation app that you can use to kind of create a demo or something like that but what they've done is they've gone through I guess and had purchased probably for a relatively inexpensive price or I don't know I assume since they're just they're just keeping it and kind of partly maintaining or going to doing a bit to maintain it. But they took the the sonar Platinum program the full digital audio workstation, multi tracking tool, and they made it free for people to use and for people to get but I think it's only a Windows only program so you got to have got windows 10 to to run it. So I did that. Yeah, and and Sona was a program that I'd worked with before for doing some some studio multitrack and stuff I think years ago probably around like 2012 2013 when I was when I was working with some friends to set up. Some studio equipment stuff was cool. We had like a big soundcraft ghost that was laid out and then we had a bunch of a bunch of channels, kind of running into that from from the microphones that we're using to track this band, and then that all went into a pretty old computer was amazing what it could do, you know, for just a, you know, it's probably like a two gigabyte of RAM, you know, smaller hard drive 2004 or five, six era PC computer, probably would even be that much, right. Something about that time, but that's what we use. Yeah, that's like all we had all we had with us, we had a, I think it was like a PreSonus audio interface. And then we got like, like an eight channel audio interface. That was really cool. You know, we had like eight digital audio channels coming into the interface, which means we could track the live channels into sonar at a time. And it didn't even pick up, you know, even on that old machine. And so it was interesting how that that architecture work to do some editing stuff, but sonar is what I had been using before. For some stuff, really audition, Adobe Audition is what I'd use most for some of this kind of more simple radio broadcast style stuff. And that's what I had learned to use when I was at when I was at a radio station, doing an internship years and years ago, back in 2008, right, Summer 2008, they did that. And they use the Adobe Audition version 1.52 to do all their radio production edits. And yeah, I remember, I remember going in taking calls with the production guy, or somebody calling him to do like a, 31:29 I think they would do like a water level report is really interesting radio station, now you can figure that they would have like this, suddenly, you know, it's it's 1245. And here's your local water level report for July 28, or something. And then it would be some lady that would call in from a department that would measure this stuff, and she would give her water report and the production guy, you'd record it, and then produce that and then it'd be prepped to go out on air later. You know, it's like a spot that a DJ would trigger upstairs. And so we kind of walk through using audition to do those steps. And so learning that as a program was probably the first one that I'd done. We should prior probably goes back to high school before that when I was doing editing stuff but but sonar, back to sonar was some of the stuff that I've used. Probably a good bit more for the for the music, you know, like trying to like track a band or do like multi tracking projects. But so yeah, that's what it used to be. That's why I thrown on this windows 10 PC to do some audio production stuff for this podcast workflow that I was trying to get into. And it's cool, it works really well. But But I stopped using that computer A while ago, I think the the the windows 10 computer that I'm talking about had a power supply go bad, which could be replaced pretty easily and is on a to do list of mine. But since then I've really just been relying on kind of like I'd mentioned, just recording recording onto the device. And then using Adobe Audition to do the post production work on my Mac Book, which is kind of interesting. It's just a more, it's just a better workflow and stuff for the for the most part. So I've been kind of sticking with that. But recently to get to the point, as you are all excited. Logic Pro 10.5 has come out no logic, as yet to be mentioned in this podcast Logic Pro is the program that was produced by Apple as their professional digital audio workstation. And so there's GarageBand, which probably a lot of people have some experience with. And GarageBand is sort of the trimmed down simplified home user version of a program like, like Logic Pro, and they've done that intentionally, I think it's the same team that generates the two programs. And if you if you look at them, or you look at their interfaces, and you look at their the types of access, you have to things, you really do see a familiar similarity to it. Which is cool. So if you've used something like GarageBand in the past for home projects, you won't really have as big of a difficulty moving into a more professional digital audio workstation environment, like Logic Pro 10. So I think it was Logic Pro 10 just you know, 10, zero, came out wine or product 2013 or so I think that was that was sold for 200 bucks. So it was like a purchase price of 199. And then since then you get the point updates for free, or you know, as included with your original purchase. So just recently, I think they've been like 10.4 before this. And then now they've moved on to 10.5. And 10.5, I think is probably the biggest, as noted by plenty of new sources. As noted as as one of the most significant feature updates that logic has had probably in years and years. I mean, I think this is the first time that they've gone through and removed and updated some of those legacy items that have been in there since 2003 or four or five, you know, it was just some of these legacy products that were there. Were originally put in there as including their interfaces to it looks like a 2002 interface for for like there's these synthesizer interfaces where these these weird knobs that you have to do these weird just rotating features of the interface it looks like it looks ridiculous I don't know other any other way to explain it it's a it's pretty wild for some of the some of the stuff that's just remained in computer computer systems for a long time but for 10.5 to try to go through an update a lot of that stuff and it's really interesting there's a lot of cool new features in logic 10.5 so logic is real similar to sonar which is I guess kind of why I mentioned it at least through my experiences similar you guys are probably think it's similar to I know what people that are listening probably actually some well no one's listening What am I saying if someone were to bother to try to find some information out about logic and they ended up listening to this podcast they probably have had some information about it or they would be coming from from an experience with avonds Pro Tools and Pro Tools is like the industry standard for multitrack and DAW software and I've never used it I've never opened Pro Tools I've never seen Pro Tools you know in in this process at all 36:13 i don't know i did a couple videos or something but yeah I have no I have no experience working in Pro Tools and i don't know i'm not a fan of avid software overall you know for Pro Tools or for or for the avid system of video editing stuff either I've just i'm not i'm not really that interested in that kind of stuff that they put together really for price and stuff too It just seems kind of kind of over over done a little bit so so I'm pretty happy with with some of the other the other more available tools that are in the consumer computer market I mean I think it's like 800 bucks or something still to get to get abbotts Pro Tools and I think that in the past that was you know insanely more than that even with you know kind of proprietary back in the past it was more difficult now I think m audio is a partner with Pro Tools and so in the past if you had Pro Tools, you have a lot of proprietary Pro Tools, audio interfaces that you had to use if you wanted to set up your studio to work seamlessly with the Pro Tools software now I think they've made a deal with M audio which is a sort of like a less expensive audio interface manufacturer they've had like interfaces and microphones and you know they got like an array of I think they've got like some studio monitors they've got some interfaces they've got like keyboards is a big one that they've got I've got a keyboard over here from them audio and what did it yeah Mr. Yeah, they're less expensive they make Pro Tools interfaces which is cool now so they've got a partnership with Pro Tools and I think that they've been trying to make that more accessible to musicians probably because it's become a more competitive market with really with like logic Logic Pro i think i think the industry standard stuff is I mean it always seems like more secure that it should be it doesn't it doesn't seem like an absolute that Pro Tools should be the digital audio workstation of engineers across the world but for whatever reason it's just kind of taken over and and as those people you know are still still in those positions. I think that's that's just what's taught in audio recording school is like a standard even though there's a lot of other good other good services and choices out there. I think I've seen sonar and logic taught a lot too so I don't know they're they're definitely competitive and as I've been hearing more this there's there's produced music producers that are coming out saying oh yeah, I do a lot of a lot of my work and in logic and there's you know, there's a whole class of music producers that are logic based producers or sonar based producers or I seems to kind of rotate around every couple of years for for who's doing water, you know, who wants to look cool. people that use Pro Tools one of the cool probably a lot of them so back to back to old Logic Pro 10.5 here's the good stuff. So thanks a lot for checking out this episode of The Billy Newman photo podcast. 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I think it's maybe a little bit more of a competitor to a snapchat system, it seems like that or it seems like or maybe even Patreon, it seems like it's trying to pull creators and, and sort of insert some monetization system that you can throw in there. But I'm interested to see how it all turned out. I've been trying to mess around with it. I'm always excited for new systems of you know, kind of publishing content and media. And so I was trying to use my Instagram account at Billy Newman, if you're interested to put up a handful of vertical videos that I'm editing, editing together. So what I've been doing is I've been throwing it together and Final Cut, and I made a special project or let's see, I went to Final Cut new project. And then I set the pixel layout to custom. So instead of 1920 by 1080, you know, a horizontal layout of an HD video, I went in and I set it to custom and I made it 1080 to 1920, which throws that to an HD vertical video. And so once I did that the frame of the video is vertical. Now what I did is I had all these horizontal videos that I had in my browser, I dropped those onto the the project timeline, and it shows them what would that be there's pillar box and sandbox are crap title box, I don't know what it is it's like title box or so it was you know, just big things over the top. But again, it's vertical with like a little band in the middle of it. So what I have to do is you have to, you have to, you have to conform that video, you have to transform it, stretch it out, so that it fills the screen in a way. So there's you use a transform tool, you stretch the video out by holding the Command key so that it scales the video out nicely. And then it shows it vertically, then you have to clip it and orient it so that so that kind of like pan and scan back in the 50s. You know, when they're trying to transition widescreen movies to TV, you had a pan and scan. And so that means you have to reorient that the position of focus on the subject, right. So that makes sense. So once I switch it to vertical video, it pans out the subject of the video that I was pointed out in a way, let's say there was something really cool in the left hand corner of the video and something really cool on the right hand corner of the video. And that was the frame that you had well now, in this vertical video just showing you nothing that's in the center of it, it's not showing you the cool thing on the right or the left. So you have to choose, you have to get to clip it, you know, cut it with the blade, and then you have to transform what's shown to one of those cool points of interest that you were shown in the video. And then you have to kind of manipulate a clip clip around it a little bit. It's still sort of a clergy thing. But it was fun to get through. I made a couple of clips of videos and stuff. I made a clip of a podcast and threw it up there. There's like a 10 minute limit right now. And then I think there's about maybe a 60 minute limit. Once you're over, say like 10,000 followers and you have a business account. I don't know. That's the thing. Not is anybody really using Instagram to watch 60 minutes of video? Maybe not me. But here's the thing I've learned is I underestimate how much people are on Instagram, it turns out, so maybe that's why Instagram has enough data to try and put together a whole app as a vision to compete with YouTube and Snapchat. Something kind of interesting, but definitely check out some Instagram TV, bits and pieces. I guess there's cons out there probably something cool to see. 4:10 You can see more of my work at Billy Newman photo comm you can check out some of my photo books on Amazon. I think you can look at Billy Newman under the authors section there and see some of the photo books on film on the desert, on surrealism on camping, and cool stuff over there. But this week, I want to talk about some of the past truck travel stuff that we've done, and I think you're the guy who's inspired me to get a truck at first man I got a truck gotta have a truck. Strangely, though, most most of my road trip travel has been a Camry, the old Camry man. 4:52 But that camera was legendary. 4:54 It was legit. It was absolutely legendary. But for today's episode, we're thinking about doing what's kind of great Come down a couple of stories in the past we had about doing some overland stuff some overland, like travel. If you can call it overland I don't know that's like a heavy word. I think that's a modern word, right? Like this term. I've seen that around like overland where people have seen a lot of that. Yeah, it seems to be kind of the trendy sort of rich guy word to say for Whelan. Go Madden. Landrover Madden, or for four wheel or something. You take that overlanding overland 5:29 excursion? 5:30 Oh yeah, it's always that but i think that's kind of a funny part of it. But I see like a ton of that stuff I got into that, like, I got into that stuff back in 2011. Like the overland travel Have you ever seen like the magazine overland journal? 5:42 Is that inactive? 5:45 I think so. Yeah, I don't know. It's like sort of a niche. It's a niche category. Like this whole thing so it's where it's like that thing you'd never find it unless you looked for it. But it's kind of it's interesting. There's tons of stuff out there like that but that's one of the first ones that I ran into. And that's that's when I had like the Camry and I was back in college and stuff and you know, that's when I first really wanted to get because I couldn't get a Landrover from the 70s I really wanted to get like a roof rack and a top box i was i was like set on that because if I could get that that was like that was like my that was my version of making like a Camry into an overland vehicle you know because I was like yeah I'm gonna get into this but I'm 20 and I've got 138 bucks so 6:28 with that Yeah, but that 6:31 was a part of it so yeah, I remember setting up like like setting up the car that the roof the roof top or the top box you know man those are those are like super handy like and that was great on the on the camera when I had it but that was all kind of 6:43 what was yours you had like that that top box? 6:46 Yeah, it was a I forget what it is now I think there was like the excursion that I had at a time and then there was like the summit model that 6:55 we didn't have the overland model didn't I missed 6:57 out on both of these were like oh man they were like you know I don't know the early 90s maybe late night early mid 90s or something that's like when the plastic was produced that's when that thing was called New and now it was just sitting on my my equally old aged car gonna go around and grab those things hold their value like crazy I picked mine up both of mine I think now three of them in total I picked three of those top boxes up oh on Craigslist was for different cars and stuff I got a little fat one for the for the Camry I've had one for the truck and we got one from Marina CRV or what do you say the truck I mean the old foreigner let's get into that later too but that long one on the old foreigners I bought like a few of them and I always bought them on us like on Craigslist or something right like yeah and it's like new they're like five or 600 bucks to get into this yeah man yeah it's yeah super frustrating so even when they're used they're they're still floating in like for good ones or for like stuff from the 2000s that's sort of the more modern clamping systems or you know when they actually made it they made it better you know where you can put it on take it on and off your car without putting together like a bunch of plates brackets made out to spend the whole afternoon doing yeah it's great because he would always like you know mess up you get stuck in some situation like that when you like I think one time we had to move we'd like it was you and I Robert and Scott and we had to like move that that that top box we're talking about to the oh yeah to the raft right and we were going on that snowboard trip so we had to like pack we had to put it on and like put like a bunch of snowboards on or something. And it was just like it was just like snow and slash and it's kind of raining you got like you don't even have a headlamp you've just got like a light kind of crimped on your shoulder and neck. As you're kind of trying to twist this wing that back and forth to make sure that this thing's tight in the right spot. It was such a pain man, it was so awful. So after that they made like more simple clamp systems that work better. But man those are like still like 300 250 like the low end range. Like the sticker like us. Yeah, the stuff broken. I just sold one for like, 85 that was that like a big chunk missing out of it? Oh, geez. Yeah, it's not Yeah, it's like it's a goal. At least I don't know, it seems like in Eugene May. In Southern Oregon, it was a lot harder. I think I had one and never sold. But it seemed like in Eugene and in Corvallis and Portland, or like, you know, where that that string of 9:23 Subarus and 9:24 topsoccer? Yeah, right? 9:27 exists 9:28 all those, all those overlanders out there. But that was my foray into into understanding what overlanding was because I was interested in like that overland journal. So I'd like watch or watch the stuff that was coming out in that and it was just really all stuff, all equipment that was unattainable. But you look at like the sweet trucks. And there's so many cool, like land or the land that the Toyota Land Cruisers, but they now have this set that they never built in America. Have you seen those? Oh, yeah, they're awesome. They're so cool. Yeah, like all the other ones. Australia got and like South Africa. Those are like the coolest cars ever like 10:05 you see all over out there. Yeah, they're so great. I would love to have Yeah, just this sweet diesel 10:10 left hand drive. Right hand drive. Like Yeah, Land Cruiser track. Like there's the the Toyota trooper, if anybody's listening and they Google that it's like this, this crazy truck that they made for the military that Toyota made for the military. That's like a troop carrier. But it's a Land Cruiser, but it's just got like a long back end. And it's kind of squared off so you can you can fit two benches in there to load 12 guys, or whatever, whatever. psyllium is in the back, but it just looks like Oh, man, that'd be the coolest like camper. Yeah, you take that thing. It's like, so like the F j 40. See, like the old ones that look like the the Willys Jeep, have you seen that? Oh, yeah. That and that was kind of like the, one of the Jeep models that they look Yeah, Toyota's Japanese right. Yeah, of course they are. But I don't know where else they they sold like their equipment to for like military use. But it seemed like the F j and the Land Cruiser line is used like with them as a military vehicle all over the world. Have you seen that? Like, it's the I'm not really familiar with that? No, we're not like a military vehicle. But like, like, we have a jeep. And then we have a tank but we have the jeep. Like they have they have the Toyota they have a Land Cruiser. Or like a Ilex, right, like your old truck. Your old pickup truck. Yeah, okay, 11:29 I know what you're talking about. Yeah, that old pickup truck. Yes. Our 1980 it was the best talking about my old one. Yeah. Oh, yeah. And so but it won't get rid of it. I still have 11:40 the coolest truck, but I remember learning about like, Oh, it was just weird when I found out like about American nations. Were in america that's called a pickup. Like that's, that's a pickup truck. But out of the country. The truck is called a Hi Alex. I'd seen that. Yeah, the international version. The International name for the pickup was the Toyota Hilux. And it's like, it's got that like emblem in it. Yeah. So they'd sell these Toyota pickup trucks like Saudi Arabia or like ISIS, man, like okay, so yeah, like all the ice like the footage from ISIS. That's like, why are they all in these like us Toyota's bassinet across this section of Syria? It's because the military had bought Toyota's as helixes like new ones they're like it's just like I'm sweet Tacoma or something you know it's just like rigged up to ride around out in the desert it's probably a great shock for it but that's 12:33 why we should be ISIS is to get all 12:36 we need all those sweet Toyota's back now it was a big land that was like a gag in the news for a while because like all the footage from from whatever was going on which show these people but they were like next to these like old like old pickups like yours with with a with like a gun mounted mounted in the back like 12:57 that yeah 13:00 but yeah you think about all that all that crazy stuff that I think that was like the highlight stuff that Toyota was like for runners out of the country they're called serfs. Really yeah way cooler name to kind of call a foreigner a serf I'm not gonna 13:15 run it it's kind of redundant like I mean no matter what you have it's got 13:18 Yeah, it's like well, I mean we expected it would it would have four wheels or big truck I guess it should have four wheel drive or whatever whatever it's insinuating but but yeah, out of the country was called the surf I've seen a few of them pass by like you'd see him out there you'd be driving around and people are real proud of it especially in the overland scene or that like that backward CMM people get real proud of their their rigs that they have set up but but we saw one that was like this diesel surf that this guy had imported I don't know what the rules are on that either. 13:49 Yeah, 13:50 it's I think if the if the guy's a US citizen, I think it couldn't happen but I think if you're in Canada, you can you can have you can have one registered and then drive it into the united states i think is where we see a lot of those vehicles. 14:04 Well we need to make some buddies in Canada 14:07 if we need that man I need I need a diesel 90s foreigner I don't know like 14:13 commuting 14:16 Have you seen like the Mitsubishi Delica that's another that's another sought after it yeah 14:22 it's low in my mind here 14:24 yeah that MIT's it's a it's another kind of wasn't that wasn't built in the United States right but it's for well it's become really popular and like that van life van life culture where people you know, like I pretty much like what we were doing the Camry six years ago, but but finding it relatively decently and they get like a van. And like it's become really popular to get this Mitsubishi Delica. They made it through the 80s. It was sort of a competitor to the to the Volkswagen line of vans that were out at that time that were kind of camping focused, but it was cool. The Delica was cool because it was a diesel van but it was four wheel Drive is I get this it was time when like Mitsubishi was just making a bunch of four wheel drive stuff probably like the Colt VISTA that was yeah 15:07 that's exactly what was just you don't know what to call this is you're listening to this podcast go go look it up and that was that was your first car Billy 15:17 oh man it was the best car it was the best it was the best car it was the worst guy but it was really though it was the worst car 15:25 there I bet if you had that now and just put a little bit of money into it somebody yeah somebody would pick that up yeah in the Portland area 15:33 I put some studded tires on that a roof rat oh yeah an LED bar. 15:38 You want to talk about led bar CV 15:45 yeah man you remember that hatchback if you could fit 10 people in that car I think eight people I think I 15:51 did I don't think that's what they approved it for. 15:55 No I just where it was I think it was seven people 15:58 it was what it was like rated for 16:01 seven Yeah, it was it was three roses seats Robert in a compact soccer 16:06 balls are driving around in 1983 16:09 yeah it was It's nuts yeah there was the front two seats the back two seats that were like bucket seats to and then behind that there was another bench seat for three so you had 1234567 man Yeah, yeah, it was crazy. What a silly 16:27 hey it wasn't aesthetically great but it was uh you know economy friendly that's that's for sure. 16:38 The worst guy so not not an overland vehicle there I guess you could say and even still like man it was had like 14 inch tires so yeah no clearance to get over anything What have you 16:50 you made it You made it happen with the camera though? I yeah, 16:53 I did man and I was gonna mention that too because that I had a couple experiences in the Camry you've always had a truck I guess outside of like the short time you had you had a sedan for to commute and stuff but you had like had I rigged that could get some places which I always appreciated and I really noticed running into a few limitations when I was in the Camry. I wanted to talk about those It was great with the Camry because he really benefit from the gas mileage which man I would say yeah because I mean the most of a road trip in some ways like is highway miles you know you're out you got to drive from here oh yeah Wyoming so yeah put a lot of distance in between you and where you're going yeah it man it worked great having kind of a light easy car to like just bomb out to somewhere that works really well. So I appreciated some of those parts but man we ran into a few spots where we just couldn't get through and the one of the most upsetting ones to me was the sailing stones have you heard of those before? 17:49 Is that in Utah 17:50 it's in it's in the southwest it's it's Near Death Valley in California and the sailing stones is a really cool spot it was in Death Valley it's like it's in the park area but the park area is just so immense but it's it's all desolate almost nothing out there you know but you take this road it cuts back for a really long way and man we were on that gravel road for ever going back there you have to go it's it's the kind of deep wilderness you would almost call it but it's like deep in desolate country out there it's sort of well traveled because there's there's people kind of moving in and out of the park system. But we were traveling there in December I think you know when we were moving moving that direction, like early December of 2012, I think is when we were there and when we were we were driving up just just on the gravel road as it was it said it was a it was a gravel road the whole way there. And this part of it, it just kind of went up a little bit of a grade you know just the hill the slope of the road just kind of went up maybe 1215 feet or so and then kind of rounded off leveled off and then kept going it seemed like almost nothing at all. But my car was knee high centering on it basically like you could feel like you could feel like the body like start scraping because the roll off of it was like it was just it was deeper than than my car like the angle the car and the clearance I could handle I like I couldn't get there and I'd wanted to go there all my life. Oh so frustrated. We were like two miles or so I was like two three miles or something like well, we didn't know that because you're like in backwoods stuff and it's like, like I'm not gonna park there and hike it or something. 19:24 Yeah, and then somebody else rolls up in a vehicle that can handle it. This Camry parked in the middle of the road 19:30 there was a there was like a group of kids or like teenagers on little dirt bikes like little to hundreds and they were just like bouncing they just zoomed right past us. They sound like a little, a little bike. And they cruise. Right. It was nothing but yeah, it's it was not it was you would it would be totally everything could get over that except for my cars, except the camera. So yeah, no overland that day is what it is what it was, but that's story really is what ended up inspiring me to sell that Camry that winter. And then like come back in and get a foreigner like when I got that that 89 foreigner that I 20:11 thought was good that was a good truck I liked that route is a good track. 20:15 I bet it was a better truck earlier but man it was a great truck for me and I really had a great time doing stuff with it was super fun. Like Yeah, do more candy seven that was really cool. But that that was the first time that I had like that truck clearance you know? 20:27 Yeah, it means just like a whole new world of opportunities opened up to you when you when you have that clearance. It's like okay, and you got four wheel drive so you can get a little more daring with where you're going. And even with that though, I found that now with my current truck, I don't have the winch on it yet. And and even that kind of dictates to what I will and will not do up in the hills. Especially if there's not another rig with me. Sure. Yeah. I really enjoyed having that. That kind of that lifeline. And that security, I guess and having that winch that I can get out of trouble if I really got myself into it. 21:10 I think it's pretty interesting. Yeah, I've never had I haven't had a rig with a winch on it. But I really liked that you always did. That was cool. I don't think we've ever used it together when we were 21:19 out. I've used it on Tyler. Oh yeah. 21:22 Yeah. Pull him out of that sandbank. Is that what it was? 21:24 Yeah. I use it on a couple times. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. You just get into a rough spot you got a tree or something you can tether off of and get yourself out of it. But 21:38 I think that's pretty cool. I remember you telling me a little bit about that in the past and it seems like it'd be pretty necessary if you wanted to do something more serious or more long term if you're doing like an overland trip or if you're doing some some trucks yes four by four stuff 21:53 well that's not a big like you know off road or it's you know, but it's well I mean off road in the sense of like let's go mud and rock climbing right yeah not I'm not that but I do like trying to get into places where typically the you know, the road kind of ends or you know, somebody hasn't been back then 30 years and there's still roadway going I think it's really explore 22:17 Yeah, I really like that part of it I really like getting to those different areas and you really get to get through so much more land you know, that way it's I found it to be really cool. 22:26 You do especially Oregon in the wintertime you know this area gets so much rain and stuff. It's hard to like you know when you after the winter you get to the end of the road you know, back back this is I don't want to beg begging I want to stay in the rig as long as I can. Yeah, 22:45 yeah, it's it's definitely that's a huge part of it for me too. And I care about Well yeah, you should tell me about Tell me about your pickup truck your first one that you got in high school did you that was like an ad with a straight axle right? 23:00 It was a 1980 straight axle Toyota four by four long and that was a great truck it still has a great track it's currently sitting under a canopy right now it hasn't run in three or four years but no, I love that truck man I drove that from the time I was 15 years until oh four years ago 23:20 yeah I mean that was that was a blast i was i was the coolest drug 23:23 Yeah no, I have always loved that truck and that truck would go anywhere I mean the really the only reason I got out of it was just I needed something more reliable yeah fact it's last trip was the trip that amber and I took down to Joshua Tree and I put like you know like 4000 miles on it 23:42 No way I remember that trip that was yeah that was pretty cool man. 23:47 Yeah and so that was a great trip to take it out on the harsh reality was you know at the time gas in California was around $5 a gallon is yeah insane I was getting about 12 miles a gallon and you know that was rough you know it didn't have AC you know that's just little stuff like people didn't get along with that forever but 24:10 now it makes me different so I've learned a little bit too I mean like like what we both learned a little bit in this last year like having a newer truck. It just solves a lot of those stresses about transportation man 24:21 well it does and that's the thing is when you're committing to a trip like that you need to know that it's gonna be reliable it's been a huge part you need to know it's gonna start back up when you're ready to go yeah 2000 miles away from home 24:35 I kill the battery I 24:36 gotta Oh my truck or so. Yeah. And the battery is not the proper Oh, no. Yeah, like, it's just like, Oh, you know, yeah, my transmission went out or like, you know, blew a head gasket or something. You know, I mean, that truck when I took it, it had over 400,000 miles on it. And, and so you're just going Wow, this is awesome. But really I just need to make sure I get it home yeah you know that that's what it came down to. 25:05 Yeah I feel like sometimes it's like driving a classic car around doesn't run as well it's maybe basil 25:12 yeah yeah yeah and then I got out from that I bought myself a little 93 I guess it was that's our five Toyota v six pickup with little extended cab I liked having the extra room that was a great little pickup to have that nice canopy with the roof racks on it I really enjoyed that. 25:37 Yeah, I like that to see 25:39 it go Yeah, it 25:41 was too bad it's too soon you know but too soon but I understand to think that Daddy's gonna move on or you know it's good he use it you 25:51 can see it around town every now and then Nice. Yeah, but but yeah and so since I've gotten into a full size track which I I just wonder why I didn't do so much earlier. Oh yeah. You know it's just just having the room the reliability you know just all the difference in the world 26:13 Yeah, I think so too. I was in your track like we were on when we were on that last Japanese podcast out of it yeah super clean like a dig been in there it's cool 26:22 Yeah, it's uh it's far more comfortable than it used to be you know cramming into the little single cab and yeah manual transmission and trying to 26:32 remember that first trip we did in your in your old trailer your your yeah cap. When we were what 16 are you going to camp up at Union Creek? 26:41 Yeah. 26:42 What is like what is that? I've been I guess it's Central Oregon. I don't know what do you call that? I don't know what you would call that Crater Lake Area Yeah, it's not really central National Forest 26:55 almost right yeah, it's 26:57 row River National Forest because it's the rug that runs through that is yeah yeah, I think yeah, it's that that area up there man that was such a cool trip and add a great type of minute like you're saying that we just there was like the three of us right? Yeah, just packed in tight. Yeah. And I was the one that had a ride bitch in the center. Throwing the third gear then it was it four years. Three years. 27:22 Yeah, it was four I ended up putting the five speed transmission. I remember that at the end. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, it was just that for speed you know, you get it out. It was great in town stuff. Then he gets onto the freeway and you're just tapped out at like 65 and just, you know, semis are trying to pass you 27:43 to go that fast I guess. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah, that was a sweet track though. Man. I really had a good time in that but I remember that back in high school it was fun like making that road trip up to go camping thrown everything in the back. And everybody's just crammed crammed into the bench seat. Just now used to work I guess. But yes, a little little more luxurious. Now with the with the space I suppose. 28:10 You can check out more information at Billy Newman photo comm you can go to Billy Newman photo comm forward slash support. If you want to help me out and participate in the value for value model that we're running this podcast with. If you receive some value out of some of the stuff that I was talking about, you're welcome to help me out and send some value my way through the portal at Billy Newman photo comm forward slash support, you can also find more information there about Patreon and the way that I use it if you're interested or feel more comfortable using Patreon that's patreon.com forward slash Billy Newman photo. I've been I've been really interested in the Alexa. Well, I guess just the Alexa platform and then some of the stuff that I might be able to do trying to produce flash briefings for the the echo system. I think there's a there's a an echo behind me that just woke up when I said that. But using echo to develop a flash briefing, I think is kind of an interesting way to produce some audio content, I think that's something that I might be able to do in an easy way. Or you know, I have a lot of the equipment and in a higher order working way that maybe a lot of people do. So there's an opportunity for me to just make a whole rundown of different themes of content that I need to produce for the channel. And then there's probably be a significant amount of attraction that I could get with with trying to put something out there early on. You know, I wonder if you guys think about this, right? Then think about, you know, a little silly ways to make money and I never actually do any of them. So I'm on the right path, I suppose. But I was thinking about while I was looking at the Amazon Alexa developer portal. I was going through there today and there's a lot that you can get into and especially if you're like a skilled developer, you have you have Background and some of the programming languages, languages that, that you can use in the command line that Amazon has available for you, there's, there's really a lot that you can do especially a lot that you can do outside of even the echo platform. So I'm sure that there's, you know, there's just like an endless amount of virtualizations that you can do, once you get involved with that. But for the Alexa platform, it's kinda interesting what I was trying to do. And you know, since I don't really have like a ton of coding Well, I don't, because I don't have a ton of coding skill, I'm most interested in trying to put together some of the flash briefing systems, which really seems like you just you kind of go through the system one time, which was almost really just filling out a form if you haven't done it before, but beyond that many people have. But if you haven't developed a flash briefing, it was really just like filling out a form, it wasn't really significant, or there was no code, there was no open a command line or build a file or have any kind of assets available for something in advance of, you know, what you would need to develop, there really isn't any of that it's just on, you know, on the website, or wherever I'm developing my feed there's has to be like a handful of stipulations met but but that's not really much more than what you'd have for any other kind of, you know, system where you're hosting and processing and serving as an audio feed. And for my circumstances, and not collecting any information or any payment processing. So I think it's a lot simpler, just kind of having the audio feed from RSS go into something that's, you know, pre selected to serve that from the alexus system. And that's kind of an interesting method of using it, I don't use the flash briefing system really, as much as I thought I would, I guess kind of day to day, it's because maybe it's like the type of content that I seem to be able to run into, it's just sort of a lot of street stuff from Wall Street Journal. And it doesn't really seem to be very relevant, or really, truly what like the headline news would be, if I really needed to hear something in audio this hour, would it be that I don't really know. So it doesn't quite seem like it. But that's probably some kind of level of content issue I'm going to run into also, and maybe this is just my personal situation of it, maybe not being like a time kind of thing that that I'm able to do. But But what I'm interested in trying to do, I guess is take advantage of all the people that might be trying to use their echo system a little bit more. And yeah, kind of participate in that and try and be one of the voices that is served on the echo system, I was impressed A while back when we were doing some testing with the Alexa platform. And when we were we're checking out with like the, we're putting together an astronomy based, like skywatching Alexa flash briefing, and it was kind of interesting, trying to put that together. I liked it a lot. See that goes, Alexa stop. So when I was trying to put together this flash briefings, it was interesting to see the real spike in traffic that was there. And so you know, I don't really have a draw of traffic as it is at all. I'm not sure if it was all just spam or some kind of weird artificial server track traffic I was getting once I submitted it to Amazon, but there was hundreds of, 33:12 I don't know markers of activity on that on that file. And that feed, it was far more like multiples of anything that I had seen from from the iTunes podcast system in in my time setting up podcasts and the time passed. So it was interesting to see just that kind of like rush in of things or ask people or I guess, I guess echo systems that have queued or triggered the feed that I had. So it was kind of interesting, seeing some of the analytics behind that. But that's a part of what makes me want to get into this type of content a lot more. The other part is that I'm trying to get more into podcasting, I have some other some other kind of podcasting, things that I have to be working on in the next couple of weeks and months. And so I'm really trying to get into kind of the audio side of stuff and do a little bit more of the audio editing. And, you know, I've been thinking about it a little bit too, in terms of, I guess, I don't know what you produce in a podcast. I think this is fine, fine. And this probably fulfills a lot of the stuff that I would listen to a podcast for. And you know, so yeah, thanks, guys. Thanks for listening to this. I understand. I get it. But to talk to that point, I guess a little bit of what I mean is that you need a podcast to be useful you want some of the information that you're here for a bit of time to be to be useful or to be you know, entertaining or somewhat informative or some kind of level of a hang. I don't know that's what I listen to podcast for I guess we're not really like hyper, hyper informational, or, you know, there's not like a ton of specific data points to get to a lot I've learned a lot you know, it's a type of communication platform that seems to service my learning a lot better than whatever type of articulation seems to happen more clearly in an audio book that's a little bit harder for me to wrap into than what it is with the more natural flow pause and then pacing of a conversation Or just have a person, you know, talking or trying to try to talk off the top of their head. I guess like professors to do that, or you know, teachers would do that when someone's lecturing, which I hope this is not quite a lecture. I have nothing to teach you or nothing. There's nothing you can learn from me. That's probably that's probably the truth. I'd try though. But, but yeah, I guess for for photo stuff that's going on? Well, I don't know. What was it talking about? That was Alexis stuff, right? I haven't even gotten the photo stuff. For the Alexa stuff. What I've done is I've produced a billy Newman photo flash briefing to go on to the Amazon Echo platform, watching my words more carefully now. And I'm also trying to put together some of the other podcasts ideas that I'd had in the past something around media and technology I'm trying to put something together around astronomy and sky watching I'm trying to put something together to there also. And I'm also trying to figure out some stuff around I guess photography specifically and then outdoor camping travel adventure stuff specifically so I'm gonna try and find some names that that might be useful for that kind of thing. And I'm going to see if if I could try and put that together but but yeah, be kind of fun. I'm I'm looking forward to trying to try and get some traction on building out some content on the Alexa platform stuff. Thanks a lot for checking out this episode of The Billy Newman photo podcast. Hope you guys check out some stuff on Billy Newman photo.com a few new things up there some stuff on the homepage, some good links to other other outbound sources, some links to books and links to some podcasts like this a blog posts are pretty cool. Yeah, check it out at Billy numina photo deco. Thanks for listening to this episode and the back end like your next

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GEORGE: And welcome. I'm stoked because today is the hundredth episode. It's episode 99, but I dropped an episode 000. So it is the 100th episode. And I am here with the guy that wraps everything in business in bacon he wraps everything in bacon, in his business, including me, his friendships, his wife, and everything in between. But we have my friend Brad Constanzo here, who I've actually known of. Ooh, maybe like nine years. Cause he's known my wife longer than I've known my wife. Andso I've been being told about him since I was the bacon master uncivilized caveman, but yeah. He is like one of my dear friends. We talk often daily and live in the world of business and marketing and mindset and growth and all the things as you guys say, when it comes to business and helping companies build or scale their business. He's a Renaissance man. When it comes to this, he's been involved in absolutely everything. He has a podcast man behind some of the biggest. Information marketing company has been behind billionaires and everything alike. And literally just has an unlimited toolbox of tools to grab when he needs it consistently blows my mind. This is about a thousand times better than me at documenting things, which makes him a lot more effective because I just pull it out of my butt. It sticks to the wall. He documents it, uses it again. And I'm like, can you please send me a copy? So today I have my friend, Brad Costanzo, Brad. Good to be here, man.BRAD: Yeah. So sometimes I pull it out of my butt too. You just can't tell that's where I document it.GEORGE: Yeah. But at least when you, when you pull it out of your butt, I feel like you pull it out and then you document it before you send it. So it looks way more put together. Then I'm just like, I'll record another video for you. Hold on. I'll text that to you later. I'll send you an audio message. And I was like, man, I really got to get efficient with this. BRAD: There's a degree of truth to that. By the way, I was very, I was very impressed. You said I'm stoked to be here. You didn't say I'm super excited, which I think is neat. Which is the most overused video or podcast intro of anybody. I'm just, Hey guys, I'm super excited to be here with, and I was very excited that you said stoked. GEORGE: I think I did that because  I heard myself the other day say super excited again. And I listened and consumed so much in a bet on so many interviews and interviewed. They're always like, and we're super excited to have George. And I was like, I got to do something different. And I think, I think last podcast I had I was supercalifragilistic  excited. But I wasn't there today. My Marshall Mathers skills are not there on the first interview of the day, but they're going to get there. So I am stoked. So everybody listening I when I say this, Brad and I literally tax probably 40 times a day back and forth. Like we talk about everything, every business, every idea, every company we see doing it, right? Every hack and everything. And so I wanted to bring him on because he's a dear friend and. When I think about this, we have conversations that I think most entrepreneurs need to have. And we think about business, like most businesses need to be thinking about, and I'm always leaning in on Brad for his ideas and his feedback, his creative coffee, some copy, some of his ideas, which by the way, was stiletto coffee.And so we'll hear about all that stuff. And so Brad, I do have to kick it off with the same question I ask everybody, and then we can take the rails off of everything, but I would love your insight on this one. You've been in this game for a very, very long time. And so when you look back at this illustrious career of yours, what would you say was like one of the biggest lessons or the biggest mistakes that you made? Or you experienced and what have you taken from that moving forward that you utilize from this point on?BRAD: Nice, nice way to warm your guest up to a nice, with a nice, shallow, easy question.GEORGE: I told you the rails are off and you can buy time with that one. BRAD: Yeah biggest lesson, you know, or well, biggest lesson and biggest mistake are usually pretty related, but not always. You know, I think. If I was to say my biggest lesson and mistake, it's something I've been thinking about more recently and been more cognizant of it is you know, when I first got into the world of digital marketing, it was a result of I I'd read Tim Ferriss's four hour workweek, and there was a million things in that book, which, you know, takeaways one of themyou know, was that the idea of outsourcing and delegation. And it was one of those things that I was like, this is amazing. I'm totally gonna do this. And I didn't. And I ended up just learning everything myself. It became, I became very proficient at technology at doing a little bit of everything and becoming a real Jack of all trades in a lot of areas. But I do know that it really held me back and it was, it's helped me in some areas because I could, I didn't have to rely on somebody else to just do it. I could learn it quickly, figured out, just burn the midnight oil and get it done. But then I, when I look back at things I'm like I could have just easily paid somebody to do that for me.And I'll never forget, for instance, when I was talking to a good buddy of mine named Nate who is in the he was in the business and business partner. We're doing like, I don't know, five or $6 million a year. And they'd been doing this for several years and he called me up. He goes, Hey, I got a question is Aweber, a shopping cart or an autoresponder. And I go, you gotta be shitting me. I just flew on this guy's private jet. Or it was a private jet. No, like you don't know the difference. And here I was going like, I I was doing okay, but I wasn't doing this. This is a long time ago. And I'm like, that was a real moment of Holy crap.He goes, yeah, no, my team doesn't let me, I don't have a login for our, Aweber system. So I don't know what it is. I just know that it's a way we communicate with our list or something. So I'll never forget them. I remember where I was when I heard that thing. And, you know what you would think I would have learn the lesson right then and there, but I didn't. And I continued and I still do to this day doing stuff myself, rolling up my sleeves and figuring it out. And it is. One of my biggest mistakes. It's a lesson I have to keep on learning and relearning and relearning, but it's become much more cognizant. Now. I think it's become more cognizant now because I just finished Ben Hardy and Dan Sullivan's book, not how, but it was one of those things that really shine the light on it was like, I keep on getting bitch slapped across the face with a lesson that I know, and I've done this to some degree, but just nowhere near as much as I need to. And I think that's really become my theme this year more than anything is I continue to have, like delegation is the number one delegation and leadership at the two number one skill sets that I believe that are underdeveloped for myself and I'm trying to develop more. GEORGE: Yeah, I think that's actually some actually, I think it's funny because you and I probably feed each other with this one because we both do it. We're like, Oh, we got to figure it out. Let's go figure it out and then we'll know what to do. And then we're like, Oh, we got to delegate it.But by that point, we're so endowed of like, we can do it faster. We can do it more effectively. Oh. And like, we talk about this, like the amount of ideas I've run by you. And you're like, why don't you just have somebody do it? Or then you're like, what about this? I'm like, Oh, You know, outsource that one, but I think it's a really important topic. So I love  it.BRAD: I'm a quick start. And I'm very impatient and you know, a real quick exam example, there was a Shopify thing they're like, okay, well we need this app installed correctly and I'm not a coder or whatnot, but they're like, yeah, that'll take three to five business days. And I'm sitting here going, I can't. Like the, the burn of me going, like, I cannot wait three to five business days for you to like install something like, or the instructions they're just give them to me. And I was looking at them. I'm like, I can do this by God. I can do I, and I appealed myself away. I go, Nope, I'm just going to wait. And that honestly, that was painful to wait GEORGE: Well, that's happened. That's happened to me a ton too. I mean, that was probably my biggest downfall in caveman was the fact that. I didn't have like this business influence of people. I had this, I have to survive and figure this out on my own. And it took maybe five years of me running that business for years before I even met any other people in the business or new internet marketing lived outside of what I was doing. And so the amount of times I brought my website down, the amount of times I broke stuff, the amount of times I've made mistakes that took like 18 weeks to figure out that like, Oh, I haven't had an email up in 18 weeks cause the form's been broken and 300 people a day were trying, like it had real world implications, you know?And that's, that's something that, you know, it's funny as your friend that happened, we just finished, you saw the webinar, but we just finished a launch and you and I are the same cause I'm a quick start to and patients is that one thread. And I think it's the thread that's weaved between, you know, delegation but leadership, because that, that whole thing is really understanding the big picture and playing the game. But I remember they were sending me some stuff and I was like, Oh, I don't like it. And I went to go change it. And I don't have logins and passwords anymore. And I only have a team if I have a team of three and they're amazing, but they're like, Nope, Nope, Nope. And so I have to funnel everything to Slack and it was, but then once I got over that hump of like, Oh, I can't like, I can't get into it. I can't fix it. I felt a thousand times better on the other side, like literally being like, Oh, it's out of my hands. And so I'm like, I'm going to go work out for an hour. And then I came back and it was fixed and somehow, you know, it magically happenedbut when you, when you think about that, like how do you define the line?Like, cause this is what I'll say about you, Brad, again, like what I love about you is you and I can dive down any rabbit hole and have deep levels of understanding and knowledge from an awareness perspective. And. What I love about that for me, like, I use it as a gift and you have the same one is we can look at a challenge or a problem, and then we can see it, but we can also pull ourselves up and see all the other things that are affecting that challenge by having that understanding.And so one of the things I struggle with is where do I put my focus on getting that level of understanding and where do I put it of like, Oh, I just really need to keep that outsourced all the way, because I've lived in this. I need to understand it so I can outsource it or utilize it or show a better, but like, how do you navigate that.BRAD: Well, that's happened. That's happened to me a ton too. I mean, that was probably my biggest downfall in caveman was the fact that. I didn't have like this business influence of people. I had this, I have to survive and figure this out on my own. And it took maybe five years of me running that business for years before I even met any other people in the business or new internet marketing lived outside of what I was doing. And so the amount of times I brought my website down, the amount of times I broke stuff, the amount of times I've made mistakes that took like 18 weeks to figure out that like, Oh, I haven't had an email up in 18 weeks cause the form's been broken and 300 people a day were trying, like it had real world implications, you know?And that's, that's something that, you know, it's funny as your friend that happened, we just finished, you saw the webinar, but we just finished a launch and you and I are the same cause I'm a quick start to and patients is that one thread. And I think it's the thread that's weaved between, you know, delegation but leadership, because that, that whole thing is really understanding the big picture and playing the game. But I remember they were sending me some stuff and I was like, Oh, I don't like it. And I went to go change it. And I don't have logins and passwords anymore. And I only have a team if I have a team of three and they're amazing, but they're like, Nope, Nope, Nope. And so I have to funnel everything to Slack and it was, but then once I got over that hump of like, Oh, I can't like, I can't get into it. I can't fix it. I felt a thousand times better on the other side, like literally being like, Oh, it's out of my hands. And so I'm like, I'm going to go work out for an hour. And then I came back and it was fixed and somehow, you know, it magically happenedbut when you, when you think about that, like how do you define the line?Like, cause this is what I'll say about you, Brad, again, like what I love about you is you and I can dive down any rabbit hole and have deep levels of understanding and knowledge from an awareness perspective. And. What I love about that for me, like, I use it as a gift and you have the same one is we can look at a challenge or a problem, and then we can see it, but we can also pull ourselves up and see all the other things that are affecting that challenge by having that understanding.And so one of the things I struggle with is where do I put my focus on getting that level of understanding and where do I put it of like, Oh, I just really need to keep that outsourced all the way, because I've lived in this. I need to understand it so I can outsource it or utilize it or show a better, but like, how do you navigate GEORGE: Yeah. Yeah. And I think, I think to 80% is where results live for our customers too. Cause I feel like what happens for me? I mean, you and I have had this, we've worked with, we've had some shared client experiences lately that we laugh about.  But you know, I find that like that 80% is typically feels like 120% for the client.It only feels like 80% of the backend. And so, but I have that thing as well, and I felt wrong. This is extremely validating. It's funny. We haven't talked about this, like over our coffee or beach Hangouts or long strolls on the beach and by the way, For everybody listening, Brad and I really do go on long walks on the beach together.It is a fact and a deal. If you're listening, we'll have to do a three-way walk one of these times visiting again but it is extremely valid. Cause Brad what'll happen to me is like, I'll have this idea, right? Like somebody will come to me with a challenge or a problem or be like, how should we sell this?What should this look like? What should the hook be? And my brain is thinking about all these possible solutions and they want an answer, but I literally am like. I kinda need some time to like, get my hands in it and build it. Like I know in theory what it, what it should feel like and look like. And I don't, I don't know if it's not a skill set or maybe it's a part of my process. I need to take that and then literally go put my hands to work per se, to then help clear up the picture of like what I could tell them to do or what I could guide my team. Hondo and I don't, I've never met anybody else like that. Cause I've met the, you need to delegate it or you need to outsource it.And I was like, but I think for me, the art of building it is actually where I get the clarity on what it should look like. And so for me, I've been looking at that of like, When I do that, like understanding like, okay, I'm going to do this. Like I like right now, my team and I are building this, do content dissemination strategy. Like that's really effective and really done. And they're like, and I can spit where they're like, what should it look like? They're asking me all these questions. I'm giving him and answer. Like, I'm still confused them. Like, cause I haven't built it yet. I was like, just give me a day. And I sat down on my iPad and I was like, okay, this and this and this and this.And I sent it to them and they're like, okay. I'm like, yeah, go build that. But I think what I'm doing now is like giving myself a container that like, I can build to create clarity, but not a result. That's kind of like where my razors edges, like I ride a unicycle down the middle. And so it was just really validating, hearing.Hearing this cause I look at you and what I love about you is like, I would think of you, like if I was to reference you to somebody else, if somebody asked me about you the other day I think it was Alex, Alex asked me and he's like, so how would you describe Brad? BRAD: I'm talking to Alex after this call, by the way.GEORGE: Perfect. Well tell him, I said, hi. Hi Alex. I know you listened to this. Love you brother. But I was telling Alex, like, how would you describe him? And I like pause for a minute. And like, I had to go into my arsenal and I was like, Well, Brad is like me, but not like me. He's a Renaissance man. That gets big picture all the way down to the details required to make it happen. And he's a walking encyclopedia of knowledge. BRAD: they call me Brad PediaGEORGE: like seriously, like for those of you that are listening, like, I hope you get to share coffee with Brad one day or Brad and I, or come to an event. That he's at and speaking out with me because you're the only person I know that like we'll be sitting there.We'll have like a four minute conversation and not only. Do you converse, but you converse with reference material off the top of your brain, and then you follow up with it by like sending a book, like we'll leave in an hour later. But I was like, Oh, remember we talked about this from Dan Sullivan's book at 80%. Here's my notes in Evernote on this. And by the way, like you should take this and apply this into your business. BRAD:  I've already made two book recommendationsGEORGE: We're only 16 minutes in and there's two and I, I just started who not how so? I'm actually really excited about that one. Cause I loved Ben's work.BRAD: I'll send you my notes in Rome. GEORGE: Yes, I'm here too. I was in Rome. And so the reason I'm asking that too is because when, when I look at you, you have this. I don't want to call Jacqueline high, but we have these two containers that you and I live in. Right. Container one is like, we create, we go create ideas, solutions, solve problems, do client work.But then the other side is we have this kind of consume where we, you know, get in knowledge and. You know, expand our research and deepen our reference material. Right. So when you look at your day, and this is something I've not talked about on the podcast a lot, but something that I've been really leaning into, when you look at your life, like if you were to percentage it out of like consumption versus creation, like where do you put that?And then why do you. You know, consume like you do and take the notes that you do, because like you've inspired me massively. Like I'm using Rome research, it started with WorkFlow like, I now read an article. I make a note about the article to put it into my PKM and things like that. But I would kind of love to hear your thoughts and your process on this, because it really makes you extremely valuable. And it's almost like you're just at the center hub of either you have the answer in your brain or you have this catalog to go into. And for me, The reason I'm asking is because one of the struggles I have as an entrepreneur is the FOMO of like, I read something and I'm going to forget it. I thought about something and I'm going to want to implement it.And it like stays open in my brain unless I get it down. And I'm using your PKM system, but I think you're one of the best in the world that I've ever seen at this. So I would kind of love your thoughts as how you balance that and how you do thatBRAD: So one of the first questions I think you asked is the how I bounce, like consumption versus. Production and creation.I consume way more than I can create to my much to my chagrin. I need to do, I love creating and I like to do more, much more so, but I'm just more, it's more natural to just jump into consumption mode because I can learn, I can learn and digest things quickly. And I'm really good at like, I've got that down.Like I've got that cadence down. I canand I'll explain that in a second, but. But I need to do more creation because I, you know, if you just consume for the act of consumption and, you know, hold it back without putting it back out there enough, you're not really adding value to the world. You're just like, almost like miserly collecting money, but never spending it or investing it.So that is one of the things that I've, I tried to do more so of his creation, but I mean, what I do when it comes to seeking out information, I want to learn, I guess, you know, I guess there's, and I'll give an example here.,there are certain things I will do to go say, okay, I need to know something about X.I'm going to go search it out and then there's the other one, which is, I just stumbled across information. Maybe I subscribed to a newsletter or two or go to a blog that I go to once in a while and I find something and I just go kind of deep down that rabbit hole and I click the links and I follow the trails and I just see where it takes me. Or I stumbled across a book that kind of peaks my interest and Iget into the book and then that book will maybe either bring up other ideas or articles or things like that.And I'll kind of follow that rabbit trail. I'll just follow my curiosity, which I have intense intellectual curiosity of. And with that. I mean, I don't know, it's random, I'll stumble across something. And I love that by the way, as I love stumbling across something that I'm like, Oh my God, Holy crap. My mind just blew. This is totally new. That's that idea of discussion. Something like hidden treasure, whether it's an article or a video or something like that  is one of my favorite things. And I try to bake that into my marketing which remind me, I'm going to make a note to circle back because I think it's a really powerful marketing strategy is the concept of discovery. So I'm just making a note to come back. GEORGE: That's why it's one of the steps in the customer journey BRAD: So the other side is when I want to, when I, when I specifically want to learn something about something else. So for instance, this is a, this is a. This is a trick. I don't tell a lot of people because it makes me look like I'm magic, but my God, that's so smart.Where did you come up with that? So if I'm working with a client for instance, and they are Well, actually, I'll do this. You know, we mentioned a stiletto coffee. I had a coffee business failed coffee business, but not withstanding, but they asked that GEORGE: the assets weren't a failure. Cause I love, I love watching all the stuff you create.BRAD: It was cool. The economics just weren't working out and the opportunity cost was hard. But when I started off doing this, I didn't know anything about it. And the very first thing I did was I typed in like coffee brand inn Google plus marketing case study. Any product niche or whatever you're doing, type that in, and then add a modifier plus marketing case study.You would be blown away by the kind of information you can find because there's everybody from universities to big brands, to whatnot, doing case studies on the, you know, what a, a brand did or a company did to go from zero to hero. It's a zero to hero story. Rags to riches, especially with companies is one of the types of stories that people love telling and people love reading about.And they're out there. I've got a friend of mine who has a sex toy business. And he was asking me for some ideas the other day about man, how do I market sex toys effect? I just don't know. And I was like, let me think about that. And I'll get back to you. Some ideas I literally went to the web and I just liked it like sex toy plus marketing case study.And I found a bunch of them and I sent them an article with a bunch of ideas. He's like, man, this is brilliant. Like how do you build these things? Google university. So that's an idea, or that's an example of having a very specific thing in mind to go, okay. What do I need to know? Has somebody else done this? Who else like great reference back to the book who not, how, who else has already done this work for me that I don't have to reinvent the wheel. And I love marketing case studies because they actually lay out exactly what you need to know. This is how they got their first customers. This is how they got traffic. This is how they scaled. These are the problems they ran into. So that is a funds secret weapon that all your listeners and viewers should just do. Take your business. And take the industry or the product type or whatever, whatever it is, and then type in Mark plus marketing case study.The other things I do when I'm, when I'm trying toremember information or things that I learn, I, I just. Try to do what I think Tiago forte call. Who's a thought leader in the space of personal knowledge management calls, progressive summarization. I try to look for something I highlight. I use a tool to highlight andlike a webpage, for instance, w it's like you're highlighting in a Kindle book.And I'm looking for the things that I might want to reference back to later on, because those are the things that are gonna give you the context for what. Your reading is about, and then I will copy those. Like I might read an article and just have three or four highlights. That's fine. I may have 50 and then I'm going to copy those over into. You a tool you can use Evernote, I'm using ROHMGEORGE: what do you use to highlight on the browser?BRAD: If you're using ROHM, actually, you don't even need Rome for this, but it's awesome. It's called ROHM, R O H M highlighter. It's a Chrome or brave plugin it's free and it allows you to,  It allows you to copy something. Yep. Andand that's like, every time I highlight, I'm just highlighting things and the highlights stays and then you click a button at the bottom of it. This has copy all highlights. And then when you paste it into whatever note taker you're using, it pulls in the title of the article URL and then bullet points on it. So it's just like highlight, highlight, highlight, highlight, copy, and then paste where I want it. And then what I'll do is I'll go through those, those highlights and I'll look for like, this is the progressive summarization. I'll look for the biggest ideas because I don't care if you're reading a book, an article or whatever, no matter how good it is. I don't even think we retain 20% unless it's a very short article.If you, if you walk away with. 5% of the big ideas. Congratulations. But then, so what I'll try to do is get what are the few biggest, biggest ideas from that and for instance, using the example of that book, who not, how so I highlighted the hell out of it through Kindle. I exported those highlights into ROHM, which is also easy to do. But that's not what we're going to talk about now, Google. And then what I did is I went through and I looked for of those passages in there. I looked for the most poignant ones and I highlighted them again, or I bolded them or I pulled them out and I'm like, all right. If I just remember these three things, if nothing else out of this entire thing, this is what I want to focus on. And it's a vote, the process of doing that. Integrated deeper in your mind, even though I'm looking only looking for a few things, it reminds me, I never thought about this until right now, it reminds me back when I was in high grade school and high school, I was eight. I would have been a cheater. I had full intent to cheat my ass off, but. The act of trying to cheat, made me learn it. For instance, I would create these really small writing little crib note sheets, like cheat sheets that I could put like in my pants leg or something. So it, I was going to go into class, I'd have all the answers. And I went into many classes with the cheat sheet, stuck in my shirt pocket or something like that. And I never had to pull it out because the process of building the cheat sheet caused me to learn it. So if I wanted to cheat, I was like, I didn't have to, it was cheating.GEORGE: So I, I love this. I opened three loops in the question.They've all been closed, but I think one thing two sides of this, and I think this is really important, especially going back to the opening of this, where like you talk about like your two threads that you're working on being delegation and leadership development. Right. I think this ties into a perfectly, when you think about consumption, you talked about intentional consumption or accidental consumption, but I think what is so powerful about both of them is that they both have a really tight container on them.If it's intentional, it's a, I'm going to find something. So you go, you find it, then you're complete and you implement it or you note take it. But then when it's accidental, you don't find it. Get the dopamine hit of it. You find it. And then you summarize it and you put it into something so that you can integrate it. You use your, and for those that, when we say PKM it's personal knowledge management, it's just basically how you take notes or how you access your own information or things like that. I Brad's way more versed in it than I am. He just teaches me what to do and I follow what he says. but then the accidental side is like, okay, if I'm going to consume that's right.I come across this article, making sure I don't just read it, but I read it. And then I take. Contextually or something that resonates with me so I can remember it and apply to my business. Then you file that away somewhere like a note system or an Evernote or something along those lines for reference.BRAD: Yup. Yeah, exactly. The goal, which is what I particularly love about ROHM, but the goal is not to have to file it away in something like, okay, I need to remember that this goes in this file folder or category or whatever the goal is to either use certain keywords or context when you're taking notes. And it doesn't even have to be much like if I'm wrong. If I read an article about copywriting and I save it over here, all I have to do is put the word copywriting or sometimes a hashtag copywriting on the notes, because then I can go back. To my notes. It's like, man, I remember what was that thing about copywriting?I just type in copywriting or I click on the hashtag and it'll pull it up. I can kind of scan. I go, Oh, that's where it is. Yeah. So I always just think of, I don'tI'm very unorganized when it comes to taking notes when I like to categorize them and things like that but because I'm so methodical about like keeping the right notes and making sure that there's context behind it, when I need to go find it, it's easy to find.I just type in the keyword or two that I'm looking forand you know, the, the loop I didn't close and I wrote down here is discovery. So I love that it's it is one of the things that humans love the Most like, we absolutely love it. We love going on treasure hunts. We love you know, just going to explore it's something built into our DNA. It's why we are explorers. Why we explore the West when the settlers came here, et cetera, we love discovering new things because there's that dopamine hit, I guess it's a dopamine hit of novelty. Like, wow, this is so cool. A lot of times we don't bake that into our marketing and our business in letting our, instead of shoving our product down our customer's throats, I was like, check out what this is like, I'm just sticking it in front of your face. I've found that some of the best Mark and I'm trying to think of some really good examples is when you discover something and it almost feels as like your. Discovery almost like a lot of people love discovering a new band, like an unheard of band that then catches fire. And even if I listened to a DJ or a band, I'm like, this is fire.This is amazing. I want to tell other people about it because I, I don't believe that everybody knows about this yet because I, if I discovered it, it means it was, it wasn't. In front of my face the whole time. And we love sharing discoveries with our friends. That's why things go viral. It's, there's a lot of that.So it's, I'm always trying to find a good, I don't even have a framework for this, but how can I let my, customers discover what I'm trying to sell them as opposed to for speed it. Now, sometimes that could be maybe an article that you're writing. Maybe this is like top of funnel material that you're writing about something else. And you, you may just briefly mention your product where the, your product is not the centralized focus of, of what you're writing, but you're allowing them to go, wait, wait. What's that? Yeah. Almost, I actually think you can almost hide something just enough. It's almost like an Easter egg popping out that I, I see the color, but I only see part of it.People will pick up on that. We're trained to pick up on it. It's like, wait, let me re let me click on that and go check it out. Especially because if I'm not trying to force, feed it down your throat. It doesn't smell like an ad. And actually, this is one of the things that I'm working on right now with a model, right?Like there's a, a landing page template, like a native ad article. And you're no, you know what I'm talking about that I'm sure now, and this one, the way I've built it, the way they've done it and the way I built itto model that. Is at the top of the funnel article about a certain thing, it's not about the product. And then when they get to the product, you know, when they get through the article, it hammers home, this is the product you need. Go get it. It's very direct. I want to test out a version that just kind of mentions it you know, this product in a couple places, but doesn't hammer it home and see which one of them leads. Like how many of them catch it and follow that rabbit trail, like, Oh, wow. That's interesting. Tell me more about this. And it'll be, interesting marketing tests that I'm working.GEORGE: Yeah. Well, I think it's so important about that. Like, I actually want to pull this thread with you cause we can talk about this all day. This is fun stuff. So when we think about like marketing, right? So one book recommendation based on what you said, discovery for everybody listening. I recommend Jonah Berger. Like there's no tomorrow. Brad jumps on this one too, but the book contagious talks about why things catch on and why things go viral. And the reason we share discoveries because Brad and I probably text each other two to three new discoveries a day, like no joke. We were like brainstorming. Like how can we submit links to each other without him coming through our texts? And we're playing with some stuff right now. But, you know, I, and I don't want to sound like a broken record, but there's only one of five reasons people share things. They discover humor, credibility, social status, education, or controversy, that's it. Those are the only five, right? So if you discover something and you're like, Oh, my friends will think this is cool while their social status, if you discover something and it's helpful, my friends will use this. You get credibility for helping them. If it's like this new way to do marketing, you get the education points.Of course, if it's controversial, you do it. But what you said, I think is so powerful because I think Brad when we look at the state of marketing, you've been in this game just as long as I have, if not longer.I tend to see if there's two cases, there's a camp of like direct response, like hard sell, sell, sell, sell, sell, and then there's this camp of like value based content based, you know, longer journey.And everybody tends to swing to one of either sides instead of realizing that they both are required. Right. Because when you think about like that article that you're writing. And so just for everybody, You know, wondering like who we're talking about. It's like writing an article about benefits and then introducing a product, you know, passively or writing an article about the product and be like, just buy the product.They both belong in marketing, both of them, and they belong at different parts of the customer journey. And so when we think about this, like I love thinking about. Like, Oh yeah. Like if I understand a customer journey, that's not linear, it's not three days. Right. It's not like, step one, step two, step three, step four. It's a matter of them discovering, you know, when they're going to invest in, when they're having that pain point, when it resonates with them and they all are a part of the ecosystem. Right. And so when you say. By the way I would love to see this. I already know the answer to this test because it's going to be both.And I know the company as well. So, you know, we think about that. You know, a lot of terms people use is like top of funnel, middle of funnel, bottom of funnel. But really when you break that down, it's just like cold, warm, hot that's that's really level of awarenessBRAD:  It's actually, when you break it down even further, it's, it's love, you know, the, the age old marketing formula, AIDA attention, interest, desire, and action. Those are levels of awareness and desire, right? GEORGE: well, and so the reason. I say that it's both for everybody. Cause like I'll help people go on the content side, right. Where it's almost like an Easter, like, Hey, we're going to help you. We're going to help you. And then you discover the link click through. Right. That works really well. It's amazing because it only gets the right customer at the right time to click through everybody else had a positive touchpoint, but then you get to a point where there are some people that will get the touch points and then they'll never click through, but they want the product. And then you have an article that they can see and read about like, no, no, this is why you need it. The product, like this is what it's going to do for you. And this is how it's going to help, you know, like literally now is the time to go. And so I say this because I see these two camps and it's almost like it's either direct response, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Or it's like this value based. And I think everybody has to realize that they belong in the same world and it's the customer journey above it, you know, that does that. BRAD: And that's the real nuance and art to it. And you got to test it out and some stuff, I mean, I don't even depend on it's like, you know, I I'm going to run this test and it may not work. It doesn't mean it, the concept doesn't work. It means the execution may not have worked, but one of my favorite quotes and I don't know who to attribute it to, but I've used for years is that marketing is nothing except guessing and testing. And guessing and I think I'm going to guess if it's going to work. I don't know. I think it will, but how many times have we guessed something at work? And it flops like, like this is going to hit a home run and it's, you know, it's crickets actually. GEORGE: That gives me a good question. When you, when you think about that. Cause that, that one, that's a good one. The amount of things that I've made seven figures on that I was like, this will never work. Like there is no way this will work is like mind-blowing. So like when you think back, like what was one of your like biggest surprises of like the guessing and testing where you're like, I can't believe this work. Like whip out the secrets. Like if it was painfully obvious or not painfully, obviously it was painful for you to share, like you ask your guests to do, BRAD: I'm trying to think if there was one of those where I'm like, how the hell did that work?I'll tell you, I'll tell you the one that I thought for sure would work. And it flopped It took a lot of work. It actually burned me out of an entire niche and I sold the business. So this is like shit, 10 years ago, maybe pushing 10 years ago. What I had, I had a product yeah. Long time ago in the dating advice niche. And it was selling magic tricks to the whole guy, all the guys selling pick-up artists. I was like, I'm gonna show you how to use magic tricks to throw that in your flirty game. That was the very first thing I ever started off with selling information on online and it was fun, but then I decided, okay, I'm going to create a product in for just strict dating advice. Cause I had this big list and I had all these affiliates and at the time there still is, you know, there's a million what do you call them? Virtual summits out there right now, right? Yeah. Familiar. Yeah. And for those who are not, which is probably nobody, who's not familiar with the virtual summit, it's, let's say I'm going to do 25 different interviews with different people about topics on marketing or in this case, dating. I've never liked them. I see no value in those things. Cause I don't want to sit through 25 interviews. I mean, there's podcasts out there right now. I can download them on demand. I don't want to sit through this and then buy them, et cetera. And there was, I don't have time to spend 25 hours. Rigso this is the problem I'm looking to solve.Now I said, but I have all these relationships and they have traffic and I want to do something that I think would be a better product and a better way to consume their advice, the, this expert guru level advice. And I never saw anything like this exist. So there's the problem. The solution was I'm going to interview 25 of the top dating experts in the world. And I'm going to ask them each 25 questions. Okay. And all of these questions are broken down into categories, such as like for example, what would be, you know, if you're a single guy it was all designed for guys. What is your best, uh, way to approach a woman? Like let's say, during the day outside of a bar.And then the second question is what would be your best advice to an approach? A woman. In a, in a bar nightclub environment. another question would be like, what would be the, you know, how do you keep a conversation? How do you keep a conversation going after the initial opening and what I did, these are 25 most commonly asked questions. And I was just like, I'm going to ask every single person, a very regimented set of questions so that everybody, all 25 people answered all 25 questions. Now in start, instead of giving you the full interview. What I did is I painstakingly hadan editor go through each one of them and break out all 25 little clips just of them answering. The question and right. Just the question. And then we built this matrix online, inside this membership area. And all you had to do was like, all right, here's 25 questions. Which question do you want to know the answer to right now? And I may want to go to the part where it says what's the best way to get a girl's phone number, something like that. I don't know that. I don't think that was the question, but you click on it and then you see a grid of all 25 gurus. And a little play button on their face and you just click it and I can go around to hear the two minute answer to each, each person's perspective on this little question, are you following me? You understand how this work? I'll tell you, I'll tell you the one that I thought for sure would work. And it flopped It took a lot of work. It actually burned me out of an entire niche and I sold the business. So this is like shit, 10 years ago, maybe pushing 10 years ago. What I had, I had a product yeah. Long time ago in the dating advice niche. And it was selling magic tricks to the whole guy, all the guys selling pick-up artists. I was like, I'm gonna show you how to use magic tricks to throw that in your flirty game. That was the very first thing I ever started off with selling information on online and it was fun, but then I decided, okay, I'm going to create a product in for just strict dating advice. Cause I had this big list and I had all these affiliates and at the time there still is, you know, there's a million what do you call them? Virtual summits out there right now, right? Yeah. Familiar. Yeah. And for those who are not, which is probably nobody, who's not familiar with the virtual summit, it's, let's say I'm going to do 25 different interviews with different people about topics on marketing or in this case, dating. I've never liked them. I see no value in those things. Cause I don't want to sit through 25 interviews. I mean, there's podcasts out there right now. I can download them on demand. I don't want to sit through this and then buy them, et cetera. And there was, I don't have time to spend 25 hours. Rigso this is the problem I'm looking to solve.Now I said, but I have all these relationships and they have traffic and I want to do something that I think would be a better product and a better way to consume their advice, the, this expert guru level advice. And I never saw anything like this exist. So there's the problem. The solution was I'm going to interview 25 of the top dating experts in the world. And I'm going to ask them each 25 questions. Okay. And all of these questions are broken down into categories, such as like for example, what would be, you know, if you're a single guy it was all designed for guys. What is your best, uh, way to approach a woman? Like let's say, during the day outside of a bar.And then the second question is what would be your best advice to an approach? A woman. In a, in a bar nightclub environment. another question would be like, what would be the, you know, how do you keep a conversation? How do you keep a conversation going after the initial opening and what I did, these are 25 most commonly asked questions. And I was just like, I'm going to ask every single person, a very regimented set of questions so that everybody, all 25 people answered all 25 questions. Now in start, instead of giving you the full interview. What I did is I painstakingly hadan editor go through each one of them and break out all 25 little clips just of them answering. The question and right. Just the question. And then we built this matrix online, inside this membership area. And all you had to do was like, all right, here's 25 questions. Which question do you want to know the answer to right now? And I may want to go to the part where it says what's the best way to get a girl's phone number, something like that. I don't know that. I don't think that was the question, but you click on it and then you see a grid of all 25 gurus. And a little play button on their face and you just click it and I can go around to hear the two minute answer to each, each person's perspective on this little question, are you following me? You understand how this. BRAD: So that was one where I thought this is a brilliant product. Granted I still like the idea of the product. Maybe my marketing chops were not up maybe to snuff at the time. Maybe I just didn't know how to sell it. Maybe I was so burned out after having created this product before selling it that I didn't want to do it anymore, which is why I'm a big proponent these days of sell it first created after you validate it. There's a super long drawn out emotional story of me thinking this is going to be a great idea. And it flopped still little coffee was another one. I had a great brand, a great idea, a great hook, great graphics and everything else. And I just ignored the unit economics of how is it going to make this work? And I put blinders on and it, and I just couldn't, I couldn't do it. So best ideas be damned. It was a, you know, a failed venture.GEORGE: And for those of you wondering about coffee, I owned a coffee business as well. Um, I don't think there are effective unit economics and coffee companies. Quite frankly, we figured it out, but yeah, that's a, that's a good one. That's a good one. So I'm gonnaI'm going to take back to something you said earlier because you opened a loop and I found a solution to that. BRAD: Who was that? GEORGE: So the quote marketing is nothing by guessing and testing. Do you want, do you want to know why it was set on your podcast? BRAD: Well, but by me or somebody else?GEORGE: Nope. By ToddBRAD: Todd who? Todd Brown, Todd Brown saidGEORGE: Todd Brown said that on your podcast, I went to the good old Google. I couldn't do it with just the quote. I had to put it in quotations. And then you code up, uh, as the first two results. It's not easy. You have to get the guts to go on the rollercoaster ride. I've heard many people say marketing is nothing but guessing and testing. So he said it on your podcast. BRAD: Ah, good old Todd. GEORGE: Yup. Awesome. So when you, when you think about that, like I, so like my brain, when you were talking about like that dating on demand thing and that thing, I was like, that's a genius idea, but then my immediate brain went to, I've had a lot of experiences like that, where. I was like, this is it. This is what they want. This is what they want. And it never worked because I was reminded that that isn't what they wanted. That's what they said they wanted. But a lot of people, like I said this to somebody before I said, what's interesting is like, everyone's like, Oh, I love this keynote. I love these Ted talks. I love this, whatever. And I was like, but there's three takeaways. Right. I could give you all three takeaways in 35 seconds to 90 seconds. I was like, but these keynotes take an hour, but they're just delivering three takeaways. It's literally hook, story, takeaway, story, takeaway, story, takeaway, you know, close.And I was like that, that storytelling part. And even like that looping back into discovery part, I think is such a critical component because I think the ideas are always there and what I have found most of the time. Is when I was like, this is the best solution. Like, this is the best product. This is the best implementation. This is the best, everything. It's very logical because I'm like, here's the actual doing solution, but it's missing the feeling that they're looking for. And there's that disconnect in between them all. It happened to me numerous times. BRAD: Yeah. And you know, it also goes to show that sometimes like the very first product I ever built, I built a product that I would buy. If it existed, I was like, I'm building the solution to my own problem. And this one, I was doing the exact same thing. The first one worked the second one didn't. Doesn't mean the second one couldn't have worked. It absolutely could have worked, but it didn't. And it goes to show that yes, sometimes building a product that solves your own problem,  is a great way to do it. And sometimes it's definitely not because not everybody wants that problem solved or not enough people want that problem solved. So you gotta, you know, you gotta kind of figure that out and do a little bit more research upfront. Which,  if you're a quick start, that's hard to do. I have to slow myself down and go through a three-step process. That is been super critical for me that when I, when I skip it, I usually fail when I don't skip it. I usually succeed. And I'll touch on that. I know you, and I've talked about this, this Disney, uh, dream storming process GEORGE: when you, yeah. Yeah. You shared this with me. I use this all the time nowBRAD: It's so it was so important to my success, that it was a very first podcast episode. I did like six years agoand I learned it over a decade ago when I was studying NLP and they were, they were talking about this concept of howRobert Dilts, who is a, one of the pioneers of neuro-linguistic programming, went back and studied the strategies of all these geniuses throughout history.And one of them was Walt Disney. And when he found that what Walt did washe had separated out the. I guess the three internal, you could call them voices or States of mind whenever we are planning or a new project and it can be a business, it can be anything. And this was into the dreamer. I'll use Robert Delta's language, the dreamer, the realist and the critic. Or the spoiler, or this could be the dreamer, the, the do the planner and then the critic.And so what happens is that whenever we have an idea and especially if you go. If you've ever had a great idea of maybe it's a business idea and you got to share it with your spouse or your friend or co coworkers or colleagues or employees, you're like, Oh, I've got this great idea. Check this out. If you're like most people, the very first thing you're going to hear is why it won't work well. Yeah. But here's why that won't work because of this and blah, blah, blah. And I think naturally we go into that thing. We hear you. Okay. There's your idea. And we critique it because we're trying to actually protect you from screwing yourself up.But nobody likes that. We're like we hear it. And then you just basically pooped on our party and like, ah, man, it's no fun. The thing is we do it to ourselves and it's not just a critiquing. We'll have an idea like.For example, I want to create a coffee. I've got this idea for a coffee brand directed towards women, and it's going to be called stiletto coffee, and I can see the, the branding and then I go out, but, okay.So all I have to do is get some coffee roasters and design this stuff and Oh, but you know what, who's going to drink the coffee and people are going to buy it, this, that, and the other, right? Like, and we have this cacophony of sounds in our head of dreaming planning and critiquing all at the same time. And there are three totally separate voices and neither one of them wants to listen to the, each other. The dreamer doesn't want to listen to the planner. He sure as hell doesn't want to listen to the critic, telling them why it won't work. So what happens is one of two things, either we have what's called idea abortion, which is I got this great idea, but then that critic popped up. Whether it's you critiquing me as a friend or a partner, or it's me critiquing myself. And we got that probably won't work for this reason or that. And I just abort the idea before it's fully baked out,. Or we do what I did instill little coffee is I was so enamored with the dream and then the possible, and I could see the plan on how to get it done. I Stipe I shoved the sock in the critic's mouth and I said, I don't want to hear your unit economics margin, profit margin, like what if people don't buy subscription. How are you going to get people to enjoy the taste of a coffee? They've never tried and buy it online, blah, blah, blah.I just ignored it. And I said to myself, what a lot of entrepreneurs do is I'll just figure it out as, you know as they come. Sometimes you can't solve those problems as they come. And it's not until you realize that, like for instance, net critic has a very specific role and it's not the rain on the parade. It's to make sure that you overcome that you're actually cognizant of the hurdles and the challenges you're going to face. And you're like, all right, cool. These are what I'll face. Now here's the secret to this whole thing. Like understanding there's the mindset of the dreamer. There's the mindset of the planner. And there's the mindset of the of the critic. The key to it is when you're, when you're in dreaming mode, don't plan and don't critique, just dream. See it playing out before you, like it's on a movie screen, like it's happening. And here, you're only asking what if.What if, what if we do this? What if we do this? What if we do this now? Once you've got a, kind of a decent little dream in mind and a vision, if you would, you're going to step into the next frame of mind or think of it as the next office where there's maybe storyboards up and all you're going to do is plan out.Okay. Here's here's what let's plan out. How given. What I know about this, how do I, how would I do this? And there's only two rules  in the planning or the realist office. And that's don't add new shit to the dream and don't critique it. Right. And then finally, once you've got  a general vision or a dream, and then you've got a general plan. Now take it into this critics mindset. And this could be by yourself. This could be with your friends and partners or whatever, and you go, okay, let's poke holes. What are we missing? Like, why not? So it's like, what if, how and why not? Right. And now we go, okay, well, it's, it's going to cost X amount of money.Do we have that money? It's going to take these resources. There's an opportunity cost. If you do this, Brad, will you have time to do that? Would you also set as important? And you can guess the final rule when you're a critique knit, don't solve those problems. Don't plan them. Don't add them new dreams, just critique and let them flow. Because what happens is when you give each one of these internal voices, its own time on stage, if you would, or on its own time with the conch shell, you know, Lord of the flies reference, they get to, they, they get to be fully heard and go and validated and go, all right. Here we go. Now you've got, now you've got everything.The key then is if to making it all work is ideally the dreamer and the planner mindset. Whether it's you or your team, you go out and you fix and you find a solution for every one of the critics objections. And if you can't, maybe you don't do it. Maybe you're bored. But if you can and you take this thing back to the critic, the critic goes, yeah, I don't see anything wrong with this green light. Now you've got something that works.I didn't do this with stiletto coffee. Like I just put the blinders on and I was like, I'm going to ignore it. And it screwed me up. And these days I do this, not only with myself, but every single one of my clients, business partners, it's mandatory for them to know this,this three-part strategy because. And even Shane who, you know, my business partners is now, he'll be like, he'll be like, Hey, so I know you're in the dreamers office. Can we step into the critics office in a second? And I'm like, absolutely. Or he'll say, Hey, I'm just in the dreamers office, go with me on this. And what that tells me is that, Hey, we're just, we're thinking, what if right now don't jump into the, all the shit that could go wrong.We'll get there.  And it's so productive by the way, do it with your spouse, like teach Lindsay, this, teach your wife, teach you know, husbands and boyfriends this because as entrepreneurs, which I think everybody listening to this is if you communicate like this, you're giving them a frame of reference for how you're thinking. Like, Hey, I got this wild idea. I'm in the dreamers office. Just go with it. And maybe it's like, Hey look, maybe we're going to move to a foreign country because our, the president we want didn't get elected. Right. Like how would we, where would we go? Like, just imagine what would be amazing if we did, like, would we go to Columbia? Would we go to France, Costa Rica, Costa Rica, where would we go? And then you just dream together. And then the next thing you go is like, okay, well, How would we do that? Or, you know, actually I'll give you another little key thinking tool here taken from the world of design thinking, which is one of the most powerful words that the top innovators use phrases, which is called, how might we, it's way more powerful than how do we, because how might we adds a degree of I don't know if it's possible, but how might, how might we do it?So for instance, you and I both have podcasts. They're not as popular as Joe Rogan's as is like, no podcast is as popular as Joe Rogan's and if you and I sat down and we go, Hey, all right, how do we create a podcast, the George and Brad show, or even your podcast, or my pockets? How do we overtake Joe Rogan's podcast and popularity?It's like, fuck, I have no clue. But if you and I brainstormed with this premise, how might we do it? Do you actually feel the shift in energy and creativity? Yeah, you go, okay. We probably couldn't, but if we could, how might we do that? And now you just play it. It allows you to just come up with wackadoo ideas and one, while that it works.So anyway, yeah. Like how might, well, if we did move to Costa Rica, how might we do that? Well, Could we, would we sell where we're living or would we just rent it out? I don't know. How long would we have to stay there and you start doing that, then you go into the wall. Well, why not? Well, Costa Rica has got mosquitoes and I don't like mosquitoes.Like, you know, I don't know you come up with stuff like, but anyway, I, I can talk for days. I did my entire first episode on this, but it's real simple dream and plan critique. Don't do it and only do them one at a time and make sure the person you're working with or living with knows. What you're doing. And it'll avoid a hell of a lot of conflict. GEORGE: Well, there's so much, so much in there and like, I just want to summarize it so first, like it goes all the way back to the opening, the episode where we talked about patience, right. Because if you have an idea and you think it has to be done today, it's not a good idea. That's firefighting doesn't create sustainable results.  And so what I love about this is that this gives you a container or a framework for taking what might feel like immediate, or might feel like urgent. And it gets you into this slowdown, right? Gets you into your parasympathetic state to really be like, okay, no, let me go through this.Let me. See, if we can do this, let me make sure this isn't costing us opportunity or costing us time. Right. And it allows you to fully bake it all. And the one thing that I will say is I am still working on this for my team, but I've been utilizing this. And the biggest thing for me is giving myself a gap between each office. So if I'm doing it on my own and I'm brainstorming, I have, I have to go dreamer and then be like, I have to go work out or take a couple calls or go walk and like schedule more time to come back and be a critic. BRAD: So, when I learned of this, it was in a work, it was actually a three-day workshop teaching two or three day workshop teaching just this. That was all, it was the Disney strategies of GE leadership workshop, right. Taught bio,  to women in Dallas, Texas. What was brilliant about it is when they did it, they go, okay, we're going to use, what's called in an LP, spatial anchoring. So you are going to be in this part, like you're just going to stand here when you're dreaming.And we would go through this with a partner. All right. You and you. You'd be standing up and the physiology was also important. So with standing up, I would kind of bounce on my toes and I get the energy moving and I look up and I imagine I'm watching it on a TV, like on a, on a movie screen. And when we were done about to move into the other move into the other frame of mind, we stepped out into what they call meta position, which is basically out. And we would say our phone number backwards in order to just cause it just causes you to get out of that thinking. And we go, okay, like, Nine four, three, two, one blah, blah, blah. And it's like, all right. I've kind of cleared the clear that out. Like defragged it. And now I'm going to step into the other one and then I'm gonna defrag it, say my phone number backwards.So it's the exact same thing you have to give your, your mind the ability to change it up when I'm doing it at the house. Like I will I'll go for a walk when I'm in my dreamer mode. I'll come back to my office and sit on my computer and I'll map it out when I'm in realist and I'll go sit in my I've got  a recliner over here and I'll go sit in the recliner where I usually read and think, and I'll go there to critique. So I, 100% change it up and need space in between.GEORGE: Yeah. Those, those state changes are, are massive for us. And for entrepreneurs, what I have figured out, like one of my biggest keys to success is space. Like just space, right? But in that also, and Benjamin Hardy actually talks about this in his first book, which is designing your environment.Oh, you're saying using the principles of like NLP to get you into the States. And so, you know, if you're in an office, you can do this with your colleagues in different places. If you're working remotely, do it on different calls, like play with these things of state. And being like, if your guys are going to do a dreamer meeting, like, you know, do some breath, work and play a fun uplifting song that like gets you childlike and then schedule another meeting.Even if you take a 10 minute break in between them, or if you're doing it on your own, make sure that you're giving yourself that space to clear and get back to neutral and get back to neutral. So you can embody this. And I was doing a podcast of the day, Brad wood Stefanos for a show we're going to launch, bu

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Today on the show I have Mari owner and digital marketer over at pink studios and the digital strategy lounge. Hi Mari Welcome to the show. Oh, Hi Alex. I am so excited to finally be here with you. I know you just recently launched this but you know, I am super obsessed with your podcast. So I'm so excited. Oh, that's so good to hear. I am having like an unbeliever lovably freaking blast. I know I mean, you can tell Oh yes, it's so much fun and getting to connect with so many people and like, even with you like I know that we met through a mutual business friend. And just like you and I immediately hit it off on social media, we've been liking each other's DNS and whatever. And but this is like the first time that we've actually gotten to talk in real time that isn't over like text. Yes, hopefully we don't kill each other. No, I'm sure we'll be fine. See full episode transcript at spillitpodcast.com.

Nick Pollack (@PitcherList) and Alex Fast (@AlexFast8) talk all things Fantasy Baseball in Episode 147 of On The Corner. They look at every Sit/Start matchup through this weekend's games and discuss which starters they are targetting and letting sit on the wire. Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/join/PitcherList Timestamps: News n stuff (0:22) The List (2:09) Wednesday (3:20) Stripling @ Means Sabathia @ Boyd Keuchel @ Eflin Unnamed Red Sox @ Thornton Ray @ Matz Davies @ Pablo Lopez Strasburg @ Perez Unnamed Rays @ Jurado Plutko @ Dillon Peters Sparkman @ ReyLo Anderson @ Valdez Hudson @ Senzatela Musgrove @ Webb Hamels @ Paddack Gray @ Marco Gonzles Thursday (20:29) Hill @ Bundy Young @ Stroman Happ @ Turnbull Gio Gonzalez @ Caleb Smith Jorge Lopez @ Giolito Mikolas @ Melville Darvish @ Lamet Brault @ Samardzija Unnamed Red Sox @ Buchholz Teheran @ Smyly Corbin @ Gibson McKay @ Allard Bailey @ Verlander Mahle @ Milone Friday (40:20) Aaron Brooks @ Zimmermann Unnamed Pirates @ Lester Soroka @ Scherzer Tanaka @ Anthony Kay Kershaw @ Thor Odorizzi @ Civale Bassitt @ Burke Cole @ Duffy Houser @ Wainwright Lucchesi @ Hoffman Castillo @ Leake Morton @ Heaney Covey @ Kikuchi Alcantara @ Beede Saturday (52:32) Wojciechowski @ Norris Williams @ Hendricks Paxton @ Waguespack Foltynewicz @ Joe Ross Porcello @ Nola Urias @ DeGrom Greinke @ Montgomery Lyles @ Flaherty Manaea @ Minor DeSclafani @ Lambert Dugger @ D-Rod Glasnow @ Barria Cease @ Prince Felix Sunday (1:03:01) Ty Blach @ Edwin Jackson E-Rod @ Vince Velasquez Unnamed Yankees @ Unnamed Blue Jays Berrios @ Bieber Fried @ Sanchez Miley @ Junis Anderson @ Wacha Keller @ Quintana Fiers @ Lynn Quantrill @ Chi Chi Gonzalez Elieser Hernandez @ MadBum Yarbrough @ Sandoval Bauer @ Gallen Nova @ Sheffield Ryu @ Wheeler

Hi Alex,I heard dragon boat racing is quite popular in the States. Is that right? Hi Alex,我听说赛龙舟在美国很流行。是真的吗？ Definitely. It’s just such a great sport. 绝对的。这真是个非常棒的运动。 I bet! Hey, have you tried zongzi? Do you know why they’re wrapped in leaves? 我能体会。对了，你吃过粽子吗？你知道它们为什么用叶子包起来吗？ Yes, I have. Isn’t it something to do with a poet? 是的我吃过。好像是和一位诗人有关？ Exactly. His name was Qu Yuan. He was a patriot who drowned himself for his country. To honor him, people threw rice wrapped in leaves into the water, so the fish would eat the rice instead of him. 没错。他叫屈原。他非常爱国，为了国家而跳江。人们为了纪念他，就把米包在叶子里，扔进水里。这样鱼就会吃米，不吃屈原了。 BackGround Music：Miss Shanghai Artists：Shanghai Restoration P...

Hi Alex, I have a really big, potentially career destroying problem. About ten years ago, while I was on Spring Break, I was filmed topless and drunk and ended up on a girls gone wild video. My college is listed. Thankfully my name isn’t on it, but I am right there, dancing around in bikini bottoms and nothing else. Not my proudest moment. A couple weeks ago, one of the guys who is on my team started making weird, sexual comments to me when he passed my office or when we were alone in the elevator. At first I just thought he was really bad at pick up lines. So I pulled him aside and said that I was flattered, but I didn’t want to date anyone at work. He said that I should really reconsider and revealed that he had seen someone who looked like me on Girls Gone Wild, he asked a friend of his who attended the same college that I did, who confirmed the dumb, naked, drunk girl was me.  He actually said, “I would hate to accidentally let it slip out at a meeting that you were an embarrassing, drunk whore and the only way that I can know for sure that you aren’t is if you and I spend more time together.” I was dumbfounded. Now what do I do? I mean obviously I am not interested in dating him. But, I don’t want to lose my job.  – Laura PR & Crisis Management expert, Alexandrea Merrell answers question about stalking, bullying, online harassment, and hate campaigns, and helps adults deal with personal and professional reputation crises to ultimately rebuild a stronger, more resilient, and joyful brand and life. AlexandreaMerrell.com

When Bill has life happen at the last minute, the Twitch chat room jumps in to save the day! News: - New models (with Byron Sanchez and Hi Alex) [3:40] - Las Vegas Open (sort of) (with Tate) [26:30 ] Interviews: - Season 3 Plot Card Rundown (with Maurice Kent) [33:58] - The Organized Play Pack (with Jamie Giblin) [1:05:18] Twitter Questions (with Lon Simms and James Brannon) - Favorite s3 Model (James) [1:15:21] - Extra Time after pre-assembled Models (Spencer Stevens) [1:30:07]

News: - GBT is on Google Play [3:07] - Additional Gencon events added [3:54] - UK Championships signup June 4 [11:26] You did what?! [13:29] Community Chest: - Building tournament rosters (w/ Gabe from TKO) [34:00] - The social contract (w/ Kevin Bryant) [1:08:42] Twitter Q's: - Do you think rookies will be younger versions of existing players or something new? (Jon Bucket) [1:25:48] - Version 2 rankings (Ben Redmond) [1:34:20] - What about 50/50s kicking money forward (Hi Alex) [1:43:49] - There is a fire in my house, should I get out? (Dave Fraser) [1:54:10]

News: - Patches [4:47] - Dice [10:41] - Corsair & Esthers coming soon [14:15] - Scale75 paints all in the store [20:09] Pundit Re-registration [24:30] Interview with Sean Benson from OzBall [32:24] Beat the Fishermen (with Maurice Kent) [54:13] Twitter Questions: - Any Hunter rumors? (Christain Nordin) [1:28:21] - Favorite S2 player? (Rich) [1:29:46] - Esthers team lineup? (Armada) [1:38:30] - If you could change one rule? (thunderamc) [1:47:36]

Terror attacksBomb threats force 2 Air France flights from US to Paris into emergency landings — RT NewsMetrojet Crash In Egypt Was Result Of 'Terrorist Act,' Russia SaysExclusive: Investigators '90 percent sure' bomb downed Russian plane | ReutersUK Holiday Jet 'Came Within 1,000ft Of Missile'The new airport security reality: insoucring?4 passengers removed from Spirit Airlines plane in Baltimore; flight was Chicago-bound, officials say | abc7chicago.comThe TSA’s security screening is worse than you even imagined - QuartzTSA failed to catch man with loaded gun on airplane | WFLA.comPaul narrates how liquids in his carry-on failed to be detected at TSE, IST and ZAGEmirates goes 2 class and jetpacksThe plane with the most seats in the world - CNN.comTwo guys wearing jetpacks fly alongside an Airbus A380Happy 20, EasyJet (but are you sure about those uniforms?)EasyJet is now 25: Who's shaking up the travel industry today?EasyJet unveils futuristic LED-studded uniforms for 2016 - TelegraphThe Air Astana experience and its IFEIn-Flight EntertainmentBluebox AiAir Astana on Twitter: "We are happy to hear that you have enjoyed your first flight with us! ✈ https://t.co/i76NPOJh0i"Etihad's upgrade bidding systemPlusgrade | revenue upgrade platform for the airline industryGuide to Bidding on Flight Upgrades for Premium SeatsIs Twitter a better way to handle customer service?Alex Hunter on Twitter: "@EtihadHelp Hi, I need help cancelling a trip due to hospitalisation. Can you help? Tried calling but can't get through to a human."British Airways on Twitter: "@cubedweller Hi Alex, please DM your booking ref and email address and we'll look into this for you. Thanks. ^Linda"Paul narrates his nightmarish Turkish flight cancellation incidentPaul and Alex both flew in the same "Pope plane" by Croatia AirlinesThe state of maintenanceDGCA report finds Air India operated 787 with only 4 of 47 screws installed - Bangalore AviationThe Disturbing Truth About How Airplanes Are Maintained Today | Vanity FairShould there be a Carfax Record Report for commercial airliners? | George Hobica | LinkedInPaul narrates how a third of his SWISS flight wasn't allowed to boardLufthansa experiences a very bad strikeLufthansa cancels 1,000 flights as staff walks out - Nov. 9, 2015The Norwegian experienceNorwegian 787 Dreamlinerjon bradford on Twitter: "Getting flashbacks. If @VirginAtlantic launched today, it would look something like @Fly_Norwegian transatlantic. /cc @papadimitriou"The modern Turkish experienceTurkish Airlines New Planet TV 2015 (IFE System) - YouTube (video)Turkish Airlines - Fleet - turkishairlines.comISTTAV Istanbul Ataturk Airport