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In this episode of the Church Planter Podcast, Peyton Jones and Pete Mitchell are joined by Luke Mitchell for a special pop-culture episode on The Mandalorian and Grogu.After seven years without a Star Wars movie in theaters, they break down what worked, what didn't, and whether this film helped bring Star Wars back. From Mando's upgraded fighting skills to Grogu's loyalty, puppet effects, deep-cut Easter eggs, and the long shadow of The Last Jedi, this conversation is full of honest reactions, ridiculous banter, and plenty of Star Wars nerding out.If you love Star Wars, church planter humor, or just want to hear Peyton and Pete argue about huts, puppets, and whether Grogu is better than CGI, this one is for you.Resources and Links Mentioned in this Episode: Simplify Church: simplifychurch.com NewBreed TrainingThanks for listening to the Church Planter Podcast. We're here to help you go where no one else is going and do what no one else is doing to reach people no one else is reaching.Make sure to review and subscribe to the show on your favorite podcast service to help us connect with more church planters.
In this episode of the Church Planter Podcast, Peyton Jones and Pete Mitchell talk about Discipology, small groups, AI, and what it takes to activate disciple-makers in the church.Peyton unpacks why mobilization has to come before multiplication, and why churches cannot rely on content, programs, or technology alone to make disciples. From small-group growth to leadership development, he explains how disciple-making starts when everyday believers are equipped, sent, and supported as they help others follow Jesus.The conversation also touches on the role of AI in ministry, the limits of technology, and why human connection, spiritual formation, and the work of the Spirit still matter deeply in church life.If you want to move people from learning to action and build a culture where disciples actually make disciples, this episode will help you take the next step.Resources and Links Mentioned in this Episode: NewBreed Training DiscipologyThanks for listening to the Church Planter Podcast. We're here to help you go where no one else is going and do what no one else is doing to reach people no one else is reaching.Make sure to review and subscribe to the show on your favorite podcast service to help us connect with more church planters.
What if the way we talk about “harmful words” is actually making kids more fragile? In this thought-provoking Doctor’s Desk episode, Justin Coulson and Kylie Coulson unpack brand-new research exploring whether believing words are harmful changes our resilience, mental health, and parenting. From social media comments to playground insults, this conversation dives into the uncomfortable tension between empathy and emotional toughness — and asks whether protecting kids from hard words might actually leave them less prepared for the real world. If you’ve ever wondered how to help your child cope with criticism, bullying, or hurtful comments without becoming emotionally overwhelmed, this episode is essential listening. KEY POINTS New research reveals a strong link between believing words are harmful and lower emotional resilience Why empathy and emotional fragility can sometimes go hand-in-hand How “concept creep” may be expanding what we label as trauma The hidden danger of teaching kids they’re emotionally breakable Why resilience starts with helping children interpret words differently The powerful parenting question: “Would you take advice from that person?” How parents can validate feelings without reinforcing victimhood Why difficult conversations may strengthen kids more than shielding them QUOTE OF THE EPISODE “The way we perceive words — and the weight we give them — is ultimately ours to decide.” RESOURCES The “Words Can Harm Scale” research study by Samuel Pratt, Peyton Jones and colleagues Watch Your Words [Article] When Your Child is Bullied: A Calm, Practical Guide for Parents [Article] ACTION STEPS FOR PARENTS Teach children that feelings matter, but words do not define them Help kids separate criticism from identity Encourage resilience by discussing difficult social situations openly Ask: “Would you go to that person for advice?” before taking their criticism personally Model emotional regulation when you encounter hurtful comments yourself Focus on building competence, connection, and autonomy at home See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
In this episode of the Church Planter Podcast, Peyton Jones and Pete Mitchell tackle two major, yet wildly different conversations shaping the future of ministry: artificial intelligence and the growing interest in Greek Orthodoxy.They begin by talking about how quickly AI is changing the workplace, why leaders need to pay attention, and how churches and businesses may need to adapt as jobs, tools, and opportunities shift. From there, the conversation moves into the rise of young men exploring Greek Orthodox tradition, liturgy, and authority.Peyton and Pete unpack the tension between Scripture and tradition, the appeal of ancient practices, and why church planters need to be ready to answer thoughtful questions with clarity and conviction. This episode challenges leaders to think carefully about cultural change, theological formation, and how to help people follow Jesus without being swept along by trends.If you're a church planter, leader, or disciple-maker navigating a rapidly changing world, this conversation will help you stay grounded and lead with discernment.Resources and Links Mentioned in this Episode: NewBreed TrainingThanks for listening to the Church Planter Podcast. We're here to help you go where no one else is going and do what no one else is doing to reach people no one else is reaching.Make sure to review and subscribe to the show on your favorite podcast service to help us connect with more church planters.
In this episode of the Church Planter Podcast, Peyton Jones and Pete Mitchell talk about church marketing and how to use big days without losing sight of the mission.Pete talks about the importance of small businesses being involved in their communities, and how churches can apply that idea to holidays like Easter and Christmas. Peyton explains the importance of Easter, Good Friday, and other high-attendance moments, as well as some of the missteps modern churches take in celebrating those days, and how we should look to connect with people, serve the community, and invite them into something deeper. But the goal is not just getting more people in the room. It is helping people follow Jesus and take steps toward disciple-making.The conversation also covers community events, small groups, church communication tools, Facebook groups, and how leaders can create space for connection without letting chaos take over. Peyton shares practical examples from his own church plant, including neighborhood outreach, supporting other churches, preparing for growth, and building a culture where people are mobilized instead of just gathered.If you are a church planter trying to reach your community without letting marketing replace disciple-making, this episode will help you think clearly about outreach, growth, and mission.Resources and Links Mentioned in this Episode: NewBreed TrainingThanks for listening to the Church Planter Podcast. We're here to help you go where no one else is going and do what no one else is doing to reach people no one else is reaching.Make sure to review and subscribe to the show on your favorite podcast service to help us connect with more church planters.
In this episode of the Church Planter Podcast, Peyton Jones sits down with Dave Ferguson to talk about what it really means to become a multiplier.Dave brings decades of experience in church planting, leadership development, and movement-building, helping leaders think beyond addition and into multiplication. The conversation explores how disciple-making movements grow, why leaders have to release control, and what it looks like to equip everyday believers to lead, serve, and make disciples where they are.If you want to move from doing ministry yourself to mobilizing others for mission, this episode will help you take the next step toward multiplication.Resources and Links Mentioned in this Episode: NewBreed TrainingThanks for listening to the Church Planter Podcast. We're here to help you go where no one else is going and do what no one else is doing to reach people no one else is reaching.Make sure to review and subscribe to the show on your favorite podcast service to help us connect with more church planters.
If your church can draw a crowd but struggles to develop leaders, you're not alone and you're not stuck. We sit down with church planter and author Peyton Jones to get painfully practical about the missing link behind sustainable church planting and long-term mission: mobilising everyday people to reproduce disciple makers, not just attend services. Along the way Peyton shares what he's learning right now in his Carlsbad church plant, from meeting at noon in a beach community to building Sundays around circles, food, and real conversation. Peyton unpacks the core idea behind his new book Disciplogy, “the art and science of making disciples,” and why he believes many churches aim for multiplication while skipping the deeper work of mobilisation. We dig into leadership development as the true bottleneck, how Paul's ministry shows a learning curve, and why reproduction is a clearer, more honest word for what the Great Commission requires. Subscribe for more conversations with church planters and leaders, share this with a friend who's building a disciple making culture, and leave a review so more leaders can find the show.Link to DiscipologySend us Fan MailWe want to help you find your next steps in ministry.Connect here with EXCEL.
In this episode of the Church Planter Podcast, Peyton Jones and Pete Mitchell tackle one of the biggest challenges leaders face: bottlenecks that slow down movement.As churches grow, leaders often become the very thing holding things back. Instead of mobilizing others, everything funnels through a few people, and disciple-making stalls.Peyton and Pete break down how to recognize leadership bottlenecks, why they form, and how to remove them so more people can be equipped, sent, and released on mission. They talk about shifting from control to empowerment, building leaders instead of doing everything yourself, and creating space for others to step in and make disciples.If you want to stop doing all the ministry yourself and start mobilizing others to make disciples, this episode will help you take the next step.Resources and Links Mentioned in this Episode: NewBreed TrainingThanks for listening to the Church Planter Podcast. We're here to help you go where no one else is going and do what no one else is doing to reach people no one else is reaching.Make sure to review and subscribe to the show on your favorite podcast service to help us connect with more church planters.
In this episode of the Church Planter Podcast, Peyton Jones sits down with members of Sexaholics Anonymous to talk about a struggle many leaders face, but few talk about.Behind the scenes, sexual addiction, lust, and hidden sin are impacting pastors, leaders, and everyday believers. Shame keeps people silent, and isolation keeps them stuck.Through honest stories of addiction, relapse, and recovery, this conversation brings things into the light. It challenges leaders to stop hiding, get help, and build cultures where people can be known, supported, and set free.Resources and Links Mentioned in this Episode: NewBreed TrainingThanks for listening to the Church Planter Podcast. We're here to help you go where no one else is going and do what no one else is doing to reach people no one else is reaching.
In this episode of the Church Planter Podcast, Peyton Jones sits down with Brian Sanders, founder of The Underground Network, to talk about the relationship between disciple making and microchurch planting. Brian explains why churches aren't meant to be planted first and disciples made later. Instead, churches should emerge from the soil of mission as disciples are formed in real life and real relationships. The conversation explores mobilization, calling, relational networks, and why smaller expressions of church often mobilize more people for mission than larger models.They also discuss the importance of proximity in discipleship, why microchurches form naturally out of relational networks, and how discovering your “where” (your calling to a people or place) often leads to new ministries and new church expressions. If you're interested in disciple making movements, microchurches, or mobilizing everyday believers for mission, this conversation will challenge how you think about church planting...and where it really begins.Resources and Links Mentioned in this Episode:NewBreed TrainingThanks for listening to the church planter podcast. We're here to help you go where no one else is going and do what no one else is doing to reach people, no one else is reaching.Make sure to review and subscribe to the show on your favorite podcast service to help us connect with more church planters.
A conversation with Peyton Jones about Everywhere: How God Multiplies Disciples and Churches.Thanks to the Church Planter Podcast for making the recording available: churchplanterpodcast.comGet your copy of Everywhere on Amazon: https://amzn.to/40Hmv1w
In this episode of the Church Planter Podcast, Peyton Jones sits down with movement researcher, author, and practitioner Steve Addison to talk about his new book Everywhere: How God Multiplies Disciples and Churches. Drawing from stories around the world, from prisons in Texas to underground movements in the Middle East and Asia, Steve shares how ordinary believers are being used by God to spark disciple-making movements in some of the most unlikely places. They discuss why movements don't spread through professionals but through everyday disciples, how simple obedience and simple tools lead to multiplication, and why the gospel is still the driving force behind every movement of God.If you're a church planter, disciple maker, or leader who wants to see multiplication rather than addition, this conversation will challenge and encourage you to rethink what's possible when ordinary people take Jesus' command to make disciples seriously.Resources and Links Mentioned in this Episode:EverywhereNewBreed TrainingThanks for listening to the church planter podcast. We're here to help you go where no one else is going and do what no one else is doing to reach people, no one else is reaching.Make sure to review and subscribe to the show on your favorite podcast service to help us connect with more church planters.
In the final part of Ralph Moore's conversation with Peyton Jones, the discussion turns practical: How does disciple making actually happen in everyday life?As Peyton prepares to launch his new book Discipology at the Exponential Conference, he and Ralph reflect on the deeper principles behind multiplying disciples—and why the church often misses the simple patterns Jesus modeled. Ralph shares stories of learning to connect with people through simple curiosity—like asking a waitress about her tattoos or offering to pray for someone in a restaurant. Those ordinary conversations often become the starting point for spiritual transformation.Peyton explains that disciple making doesn't begin with programs or sermons but with something much simpler: Following Jesus and bringing someone along with you.
In this rich and forward-looking episode of the Church Planter Podcast, Peyton Jones sits down with two seasoned practitioners of multiplication: Larry Walkemeyer and John Teter, co-authors of The Making of a Multiplier: Four Seasons to Maximize Your Kingdom Legacy.Between them, Larry and John bring decades of church planting, denominational leadership, mentoring, and movement-building experience. From planting 30+ churches out of Light & Life Fellowship in Long Beach to launching businesses like 5000 Pies in Compton as a discipleship engine, these leaders don't just talk multiplication, they live it.In this conversation, they unpack:Why so many leaders fail to finish well, and how to avoid itThe four-season framework of leadership development (Spring, Summer, Autumn, Winter)Why Barnabas is the ultimate model of a multiplierThe overlooked power of investing in others instead of chasing platformHow multiplication legacy can outlive visible ministryLarry shares from his own “winter” season of influence without authority, while John reflects on how nearly resigning from ministry at 25 led him into a lifetime study of finishing well.Resources and Links Mentioned in this Episode:Reliant Mission: reliant.org/cppNewBreed TrainingThanks for listening to the church planter podcast. We're here to help you go where no one else is going and do what no one else is doing to reach people, no one else is reaching.Make sure to review and subscribe to the show on your favorite podcast service to help us connect with more church planters.
In Part 2 of Ralph Moore's conversation with Peyton Jones, the focus turns to the heart behind Peyton's new book Discipology and the disciple-making pattern Jesus used to train His followers.Peyton reflects on his years planting churches in the U.K., where small congregations forced leaders to rely on disciple-making rather than large programs or events. During that season he worked a series of jobs—including factory work, firefighting, and even barista shifts at Starbucks—discovering firsthand how everyday workplaces became powerful mission fields for the gospel. The discussion then moves to the deeper research behind Discipology. Peyton explains how studying the book of Acts and Paul's missionary journeys revealed something surprising: Paul himself was on a learning curve, gradually adapting his strategy to mobilize teams and multiply leaders. That realization drove Peyton back to the Gospels to ask a bigger question: How did Jesus actually train the disciples? What he found became the framework for the book: Time. Teaching. Tactics.These three rhythms shaped how Jesus developed the Twelve—first spending extended time with them, then teaching them as they traveled and ministered together, and finally sending them out to practice the mission themselves.
Many churches today are focused on growth, strategy, and multiplication—but what if we've missed the most important part of Jesus' method?In this episode, Tim Ahlman sits down with church planter and author Peyton Jones to talk about his new book Discipology and why the church must rediscover the simple rhythms of disciple making.Get Peyton's new book: Discipology: The Art and Science of Making Discipleshttps://www.amazon.com/Discipology-Science-Making-Disciples-Exponential/dp/0310180333They explore the difference between mobilization and multiplication, why most Christians have never been discipled, and how Jesus actually trained the first disciples to change the world.The conversation also dives into the future of the church, why smaller relational communities are rising, and how everyday believers can be equipped to live out the Great Commission in normal life.If you care about the future of the church and want to see believers mobilized for mission, this conversation will challenge and encourage you.Support the showWatch Us On Youtube!
In this episode of the Church Planter Podcast, Peyton Jones and Pete Mitchell explore a foundational idea behind Discipology: before you make disciples, you must first become one. But that doesn't simply mean being saved, it means allowing the character of Jesus to shape your life. Peyton explains how the New Testament qualifications for leaders ultimately describe a life that reflects Christ's character. From there, he introduces the Shalom Star, a practical tool designed to help believers evaluate whether their lives are growing in healthy, Christ-like balance across six key areas: spiritual life, honor (responsibilities), affections, learning, others, and mental health. Together, Pete and Peyton discuss why imbalance in a leader's life can undermine their witness, how discipleship shapes character through proximity to Jesus, and why personal transformation must come before effective disciple-making.Resources and Links Mentioned in this Episode:TakeShalom.comDiscipologyBook.comReliant Mission: reliant.org/cppNewBreed TrainingThanks for listening to the church planter podcast. We're here to help you go where no one else is going and do what no one else is doing to reach people, no one else is reaching.Make sure to review and subscribe to the show on your favorite podcast service to help us connect with more church planters.
Ralph Moore sits down with longtime friend and ministry partner Peyton Jones to talk about disciple-making, church planting, and Peyton's new book Discipology.The conversation begins with a look at the newly launched church plant The Abbey in North County San Diego and the surprising ways God has already been bringing together generations of leaders and young people. Ralph reflects on the personal encouragement he and his wife Ruby have experienced through the church community, while Peyton shares how the vision for the church is centered on relationships, mentoring, and raising up the next generation. Peyton then shares his powerful personal story—from a violent and angry teenager facing expulsion from school to a dramatic encounter with the gospel that changed his life. Within months of coming to faith, he began sharing Christ with friends and leading people to Jesus, eventually discipling dozens of teenagers in a local park before he was even old enough to drive. That early experience shaped Peyton's lifelong conviction that discipleship happens through relationships, not just programs. He explains how discipling young believers one-by-one became the “secret sauce” that fueled the growth of a youth movement and eventually led to decades of church planting and ministry around the world.
In this episode of the Church Planter Podcast, Peyton Jones sits down with pastor, author, and leadership coach Joey Cook to explore a creative and rapidly growing approach to disciple making—right on the golf course.Joey shares his journey of faith, from growing up in a small Ozark Mountains church to discovering the deeper relational love of God that now fuels his ministry and leadership. That personal transformation has shaped his passion to help people experience the love of the Father and extend it to others. The conversation centers around a unique disciple-making movement happening inside golf communities around the world. Through a partnership with PGA professionals and the Bible Caddy podcast, Joey and others are helping launch “feature groups” at country clubs—spaces where golfers gather, build friendships, study Scripture, and talk honestly about life and faith.What began as a simple idea has quickly multiplied to more than 160 groups globally, connecting believers and non-believers alike through shared passions and authentic conversations about the gospel.Resources and Links Mentioned in this Episode:Connect with Bible Caddie by emailing groups@biblecaddie.comDiscipologyBook.comReliant Mission: reliant.org/cppNewBreed TrainingThanks for listening to the church planter podcast. We're here to help you go where no one else is going and do what no one else is doing to reach people, no one else is reaching.Make sure to review and subscribe to the show on your favorite podcast service to help us connect with more church planters.
What do Van Halen, St. Paul's Cathedral, and a boring radio station have in common?For Kris Langham, they were all part of the journey that led him to faith.In this episode of the Church Planter Podcast, Peyton Jones and Pete Mitchell sit down with Kris Langham, founder of Through the Word, to unpack his remarkable salvation story and the vision behind one of the most accessible Bible engagement tools in the world.Kris shares how a simple audio Bible teaching format grew into Through the Word, a free app with a 10-minute audio guide for every chapter of the Bible (now approaching 1 million users).But this conversation goes deeper than technology.Together, the guys explore:Why most Christians feel anxiety when they hear “go make disciples”The critical difference between discipleship and disciple-makingHow we often reproduce the way we were discipled, for better or worseWhy disciple-making moves at the speed of relationshipHow introverts might actually make the best disciple-makersHow the new Discipology Plan inside the Through the Word app helps everyday believers follow Jesus and take someone with themResources and Links Mentioned in this Episode:DiscipologyBook.comReliant Mission: reliant.org/cppNewBreed TrainingThanks for listening to the church planter podcast. We're here to help you go where no one else is going and do what no one else is doing to reach people, no one else is reaching.Make sure to review and subscribe to the show on your favorite podcast service to help us connect with more church planters.
In this episode of the Church Planter Podcast, Peyton Jones pulls back the curtain on the long, surprising, and deeply personal journey behind Discipology.What began as a question while writing Church Plantology turned into a multi-year exploration of how Jesus actually formed disciples who multiplied. Peyton shares how studying Jesus chronologically—not thematically—reshaped his understanding of disciple making, exposed a leadership pipeline problem in the church, and led to the development of the now-central Time, Teaching, and Tactics frameworkAlong the way, Peyton talks candidly about the challenges of trailblazing a paradigm where little prior research existed, the spiritual weight of the project, and how a season of prayer and unexpected clarity shaped key tools like the Shalom framework. Pete Mitchell guides the conversation with humor and insight, helping surface why Discipology isn't just another discipleship book, but a reproducible system aimed at mobilizing everyday believers.If you've ever wondered why disciple making feels harder than it should, or how Jesus actually trained people to do it, this episode offers both the origin story and the heart behind Discipology.Resources and Links Mentioned in this Episode:DiscipologyBook.comReliant Mission: reliant.org/cppNewBreed TrainingThanks for listening to the church planter podcast. We're here to help you go where no one else is going and do what no one else is doing to reach people, no one else is reaching.Make sure to review and subscribe to the show on your favorite podcast service to help us connect with more church planters.
In this episode, Peyton Jones is joined by Elliot Sands, president of Faith First, for a thoughtful and candid conversation about politics, unity, and disciple-making in today's divided world. From his upbringing as a missionary kid in Nigeria to his work helping Christians navigate cultural and political fractures, Elliot brings a grounded, pastoral perspective to one of the most volatile challenges facing the Church right now.If you're a church planter trying to lead faithfully without alienating half your congregation — or wondering how to shepherd people through cultural chaos without losing gospel clarity — this episode will give you language, framework, and hope.Resources and Links Mentioned in this Episode:LiveFaithFirst.orgReliant Mission: reliant.org/cppNewBreed TrainingThanks for listening to the church planter podcast. We're here to help you go where no one else is going and do what no one else is doing to reach people, no one else is reaching.Make sure to review and subscribe to the show on your favorite podcast service to help us connect with more church planters.
What if the real problem in the Church isn't multiplication… but mobilization?In this episode, Peyton Jones and Pete Mitchell go deep into Peyton's new book Discipology: The Art and Science of Making Disciples—and why Jesus' original training model might be the missing engine behind today's stalled movements.Fresh off a trip to Wales (and a bucket-list encounter with punk icon Johnny Rotten), Peyton breaks down the Time, Teaching, and Tactics framework—how Jesus spent three years forming the Twelve, and why most modern discipleship models stop short of real disciple-making.Resources and Links Mentioned in this Episode:Reliant Mission: reliant.org/cppNewBreed TrainingThanks for listening to the church planter podcast. We're here to help you go where no one else is going and do what no one else is doing to reach people, no one else is reaching.Make sure to review and subscribe to the show on your favorite podcast service to help us connect with more church planters.
In this raw and deeply personal episode of the Church Planter Podcast, Peyton Jones and Pete Mitchell wrestle with heartbreaking news about one of Peyton's writing heroes, Philip Yancey.What happens when a trusted Christian voice falls? How do leaders reconcile great theology with moral failure? And what does this moment teach church planters about integrity, temptation, confession, and the danger of hidden lives?Drawing from Scripture, personal experience, and years in ministry, Peyton and Pete explore why no one simply “wakes up” and chooses failure—and why isolation, secrecy, and unmanaged wounds often precede a fall. They discuss boundaries, accountability, confession, and the hard but necessary question every leader must ask: Who really knows me?Resources and Links Mentioned in this Episode:Reliant Mission: reliant.org/cppNewBreed TrainingThanks for listening to the church planter podcast. We're here to help you go where no one else is going and do what no one else is doing to reach people, no one else is reaching.Make sure to review and subscribe to the show on your favorite podcast service to help us connect with more church planters.
This conversation explores the motivations and experiences of church planters John Teter and Peyton Jones as they discuss their journey to becoming part of the Free Methodist Church. The dialogue highlights the importance of community, mentorship, and the church's mission and values, emphasizing the relevance of the Free Methodist Church in today's cultural landscape. Larry and Deb Walkemeyer provide insights into their relationships with John and Peyton, affirming their contributions to the church and the significance of their work in ministry.
Peyton Jones sits down with theologian, historian, and mission scholar Dr. Howard Snyder for a wide-ranging conversation on the gospel, the Kingdom of God, and what it truly means to follow Jesus in a fractured world. Drawing from his newest and most ambitious work, Consider the Lilies: How Jesus Saves People and the Land, Snyder challenges the Church to recover a fuller, more biblical vision of salvation—one that includes not only people, but creation itself.In this episode, Dr. Snyder explains why much of modern theology has become “too small,” how Scripture reveals God's covenant not only with humanity but with the land, and why Jesus' mission cannot be reduced to escaping the world rather than renewing it. The conversation explores discipleship, church planting, justice, stewardship, culture, and why the Church must be prepared to speak faithfully into the decades ahead.For church planters, pastors, and leaders wrestling with the divide between the spiritual and the tangible, this episode offers a compelling framework for understanding the Kingdom of God as both deeply biblical and urgently relevant for our time.Resources and Links Mentioned in this Episode:Reliant Mission: reliant.org/cppNewBreed TrainingThanks for listening to the church planter podcast. We're here to help you go where no one else is going and do what no one else is doing to reach people, no one else is reaching.Make sure to review and subscribe to the show on your favorite podcast service to help us connect with more church planters.
Joshua Brown—known as the Pressure Washing Pastor—joins Peyton Jones and Pete Mitchell for one of the most compelling conversations the Church Planter Podcast has had in a long time. From a traumatic childhood and growing up without a father, to burnout in vocational ministry, to building a multi-million-dollar pressure washing business as a platform for disciple-making, Joshua shares a raw, redemptive story of identity, calling, and obedience.In this episode, Joshua unpacks how marketplace ministry became a powerful context for evangelism, discipleship, and leadership development—training young people, forming character before competency, and multiplying leaders outside the walls of the church. The conversation explores co-vocational ministry, service-based businesses, and why pressure washing (of all things) has become a surprisingly effective tool for mission.If you're a church planter wrestling with sustainability, burnout, or how to mobilize disciples beyond Sunday services, this episode will stretch your imagination and challenge your assumptions about what ministry can look like today.Resources and Links Mentioned in this Episode:Pressure Washing PastorReliant Mission: reliant.org/cppNewBreed TrainingThanks for listening to the church planter podcast. We're here to help you go where no one else is going and do what no one else is doing to reach people, no one else is reaching.Make sure to review and subscribe to the show on your favorite podcast service to help us connect with more church planters.
People leave church plants...and it's not always a bad thing. In this honest conversation, Peyton Jones and Pete Mitchell talk about why people leave, how leaders often take it personally, and why a healthy send-off matters more than trying to hold people tightly. Along the way, they address the dangers of platform-first leadership, social media posturing, and why character (not notoriety) is what sustains long-term gospel impact.Resources and Links Mentioned in this Episode:Reliant Mission: reliant.org/cppNewBreed TrainingThanks for listening to the church planter podcast. We're here to help you go where no one else is going and do what no one else is doing to reach people, no one else is reaching.Make sure to review and subscribe to the show on your favorite podcast service to help us connect with more church planters.
In this candid conversation, Peyton Jones and Pete Mitchell talk honestly about the emotional and spiritual weight of church planting—the burnout, the doubts, the financial strain, and the moments when you wonder why you ever said yes. Drawing from years of experience, they reflect on why so many church planters quit, why calling matters more than strategy, and how disciple-making offers a hopeful path forward in a season when church planting feels increasingly difficult.The episode also includes a powerful, real-time story of God's provision as Peyton shares how prayer, fasting, wise counsel, and unexpected generosity led to a breakthrough for their church's next gathering space. It's a reminder that while church planting is rarely easy, God is still active, still guiding, and still opening doors for those willing to trust Him.If you're a church planter feeling tired, discouraged, or unsure whether the sacrifice is worth it, this episode offers both realism and renewed perspective for the journey ahead.Resources and Links Mentioned in this Episode:Reliant Mission: reliant.org/cppNewBreed TrainingThanks for listening to the church planter podcast. We're here to help you go where no one else is going and do what no one else is doing to reach people, no one else is reaching.Make sure to review and subscribe to the show on your favorite podcast service to help us connect with more church planters.
In this episode, Peyton Jones sits down with author, artist, and founder of Creo Arts, Winfield Bevins, to explore why beauty may be the most overlooked catalyst for mission in our generation. Drawing from his new book, How Beauty Will Save the World, Winfield unpacks how art, imagination, and creative calling can open spiritual doors that arguments and strategies often cannot.Winfield shares his personal journey—from a troubled teen discovering hope through an art teacher, to planting a church through an art gallery, to now leading a nationwide movement that empowers artists and churches to become “missionaries of beauty.” Together, Peyton and Winfield dive into how church planters can recover a biblical, Spirit-empowered vision of creativity, cultivate guilds and galleries within their communities, and lead with beauty in a divided world.If you're longing for fresh imagination in ministry—or wondering why evangelism feels stuck—this conversation will reframe how you see discipleship, mission, and the arts.Resources and Links Mentioned in this Episode:Reliant Mission: reliant.org/cppNewBreed TrainingThanks for listening to the church planter podcast. We're here to help you go where no one else is going and do what no one else is doing to reach people, no one else is reaching.Make sure to review and subscribe to the show on your favorite podcast service to help us connect with more church planters.
This interview was recorded for GOTO Unscripted.https://gotopia.techSimon Peyton Jones - Key Contributor of Haskell & Engineering Fellow at Epic GamesChelsea Troy - MLOps Tech Lead at Mozilla & Lecturer at University of ChicagoRESOURCESSimonhttps://simon.peytonjones.orghttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Peyton_Joneshttps://www.linkedin.com/in/simonpjChelseahttps://chelseatroy.comhttps://social.clawhammer.net/@HeyChelseaTroyhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/chelseatroyLinkshttps://www.barefootcomputing.orghttps://www.computingatschool.org.uk/resources/2015/januaryhttps://www.computingatschool.org.uk/forum-news-blogs/2023/novemberhttps://chelseatroy.com/2025/05/14https://computingeducation.org.ukhttps://www.raspberrypi.org/blogDESCRIPTIONSimon discusses how a simple math problem led him to discover the binary system 55 years ago. He explores how to maintain the essence of computational thinking in an era where AI can instantly solve coding problems, emphasizing concrete, motivated contexts over abstract algorithms.The discussion spans from elementary programming to his unique role as a computing fellow at Epic Games, where he works with CEO Tim Sweeney to design the Verse programming language, proving that even big companies can prioritize denotational semantics over quarterly profits.RECOMMENDED BOOKSSimon Peyton Jones • The Implementation of Functional Programming Languages • https://amzn.to/3HQE0XnChelsea Troy • Remote Work Sucks • https://heychelsePsst! The Folium Diary has something it wants to tell you - please come a little closer...YOU can change the world - you do it every day. Let's change it for the better, together.Listen on: Apple Podcasts SpotifyBlueskyTwitterInstagramLinkedInFacebookCHANNEL MEMBERSHIP BONUSJoin this channel to get early access to videos & other perks:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCs_tLP3AiwYKwdUHpltJPuA/joinLooking for a unique learning experience?Attend the next GOTO conference near you! Get your ticket: gotopia.techSUBSCRIBE TO OUR YOUTUBE CHANNEL - new videos posted daily!
In this powerful conversation, Peyton Jones sits down with Christian Mungai, Global Movement Pastor at Mariners Church and author of People Are the Wealth, to explore how the global landscape of missions is shifting — and why that's good news for the Church.Born in Kenya and now serving in California, Christian shares his remarkable family story that traces the full circle of missions: from the Scottish missionaries who reached his grandfather to his own call as a missionary to North America. Together, he and Peyton unpack how the center of Christianity has moved to the Global South, what that means for Western churches, and how a new era of interdependent mission is emerging.They discuss the African proverb behind his book title — “Money can make you rich, but only people make you wealthy” — and why relationships, not results, are the true measure of ministry. You'll also hear the surprising story of how Mariners Church adopted Kenya's Mizizi discipleship process, transforming it into Rooted, now used by thousands of churches worldwide.This episode challenges every leader to rethink mission as collaboration rather than conquest, to trade independence for interdependence, and to rediscover what it means to love people as the greatest wealth of all.Resources and Links Mentioned in this Episode:Reliant Mission: reliant.org/cppNewBreed TrainingThanks for listening to the church planter podcast. We're here to help you go where no one else is going and do what no one else is doing to reach people, no one else is reaching.Make sure to review and subscribe to the show on your favorite podcast service to help us connect with more church planters.
Munaf Manji and Mackenzie Rivers talk NFL Week 1 Recap and much more. Munaf Manji (0:17 – 0:59) Munaf introduced the season's first weekend recap, joined by Mackenzie Rivers to break down Sunday's action and preview Monday Night Football. Mackenzie pointed out Baltimore's recurring late-game collapses: “This is the 10th 10-point lead in the Lamar Jackson, John Harbaugh era where it didn't go as planned with the fourth quarter loss.” Despite strong stats, the Ravens again fell short. Munaf described how a 15-point lead vanished after Derrick Henry's fumble. Baltimore punted on 4th-and-2, allowing Josh Allen to hit Keon Coleman for the decisive score. Jair Alexander's tackle instead of letting a TD sealed their fate. Mackenzie noted that decision flipped the odds: “As soon as he tackled him, the live line is minus 3,000 Bills.” Ravens scored 40 but defense failed again. Lamar Jackson: 14/19, 209 yards, 2 TDs, 0 INTs. Derrick Henry: 18 carries, 169 yards, 2 TDs. Zay Flowers: 7 catches, 143 yards, 1 TD. Josh Allen: 394 total yards, 4 TDs, pushing his MVP odds to +350. Favorites went 11-1 Sunday; unders dominated. Mackenzie used line shifts to grade upgrades: Jaguars, Chargers, Raiders, and Packers. Munaf praised Justin Herbert's performance, Travis Etienne's 143 rushing yards, and Green Bay's defensive dominance. Teams falling: Miami — Daniel Jones looked like “Peyton Jones,” posting 272 yards, 3 total TDs vs. their broken defense. Chiefs — WR injuries (Xavier Worthy, Rashee Rice suspended) leave them thin. Giants & Panthers also slipped. Bengals downgraded slightly after Joe Burrow's 113-yard outing; Chase (26 yards) and Higgins (33) were quiet. Jaguars vs. Bengals line movement suggests value on Jacksonville. Bills heavy favorites vs. Jets. 49ers injuries: George Kittle (hamstring), Jauan Jennings (shoulder). Christian McCaffrey still posted 130 yards. Brock Purdy showed poise despite 2 INTs. Bears: New coach Ben Johnson looks to revive Chicago. Vikings: Rookie J.J. McCarthy makes his first start with Jefferson returning and Thielen rejoining. Mackenzie leaned to the under, citing Brian Flores' exotic blitz packages. Munaf backed the Bears +1.5, doubting McCarthy's readiness. Player Props: Munaf: Aaron Jones over 18.5 receiving yards, with nine straight games clearing that vs. Chicago. Mackenzie: J.J. McCarthy under passing yards, expecting a conservative plan. The hosts promoted Pregame.com with promo code “WINNING25,” praised their debut recap, and noted both started 3-0 in Survivor contests. They promised weekly updates with upgrades, downgrades, betting edges, and contest talk. ✅ Key Themes: Ravens' defense undermines elite offensive stats. Week 1 unders and favorites dominate. Chargers, Jaguars, Raiders, Packers upgraded; Dolphins, Chiefs, Bengals downgraded. Betting value: Jaguars vs. Bengals, Bears vs. Vikings under. Player props spotlight Aaron Jones and J.J. McCarthy. Mackenzie Rivers (1:00 – 2:26)Munaf Manji (2:27 – 4:02)Mackenzie Rivers (4:02 – 4:46)Key Stats & Takeaways (5:05 – 7:43)League Trends & Upgrades (7:43 – 12:59)Downgrades (14:09 – 20:29)Betting & Injuries (20:30 – 25:08)MNF Preview – Bears vs. Vikings (25:11 – 35:32)Closing (36:05 – 40:17) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
In this episode, Peyton Jones and Pete Mitchell tackle the challenge of sharing the gospel in a world overloaded with noise and distraction. From the rise of short-form content to the temptation of controversy-driven clicks, they explore what it means to “do the work of an evangelist” today. Peyton unpacks the biblical distinction between being a witness and proclaiming the good news, while Pete draws parallels between evangelism and marketing—showing how principles of attention-grabbing can be leveraged without compromising the message.Together, they discuss how church planters can avoid the trap of Pharisaical call-outs, enter the conversations people are already having, and use digital tools wisely to connect real people with the hope of Jesus. If you've ever wondered how to cut through the noise with the gospel in today's distracted age, this conversation will give you clarity, conviction, and some practical next steps.Resources and Links Mentioned in this Episode:Reliant Mission: reliant.org/cppNewBreed TrainingThanks for listening to the church planter podcast. We're here to help you go where no one else is going and do what no one else is doing to reach people, no one else is reaching.Make sure to review and subscribe to the show on your favorite podcast service to help us connect with more church planters.
In this episode of the Church Planter Podcast, Peyton Jones and Pete Mitchell tackle a topic that's rarely discussed but critical to the health of your church plant—how to run a leadership meeting. Peyton shares his philosophy of open, transparent meetings, the structure he uses to keep them productive, and why listening often matters more than talking. You'll hear practical tips on setting the tone, prioritizing issues, fostering unity without voting, and creating space for every voice to be heard. Plus, along the way, you'll get plenty of stories—from supernatural disruptions to unexpected moments of team collaboration—that illustrate how leadership meetings can be both Spirit-led and highly effective.Resources and Links Mentioned in this Episode:Reliant Mission: reliant.org/cppNewBreed TrainingThanks for listening to the church planter podcast. We're here to help you go where no one else is going and do what no one else is doing to reach people, no one else is reaching.Make sure to review and subscribe to the show on your favorite podcast service to help us connect with more church planters.
What if your church stopped trying to be a lake and became a river instead?In this episode, Peyton Jones and Pete Mitchell sit down with Larry Walkemeyer, longtime pastor of Light & Life Christian Fellowship and the author of The River Church. Larry shares the radical vision God gave him and his wife Deb: instead of growing bigger, their church would grow deeper and wider by sending. That vision turned 39 parking spots into 33 church plants.Larry unpacks the biblical inspiration behind the river metaphor (Ezekiel 47), the ego-surrendering challenges of multiplication, and how prayer, generosity, and Spirit-led leadership shaped a culture of movement. Along the way, he shares powerful stories—from sending a former gang member to plant a thriving church, to watching a seemingly “failed” plant bear unexpected fruit on Capitol Hill.If you're a church planter or pastor dreaming of a multiplying movement, this conversation will stir your spirit and expand your imagination.Resources and Links Mentioned in this Episode:The River ChurchReliant Mission: reliant.org/cppNewBreed TrainingThanks for listening to the church planter podcast. We're here to help you go where no one else is going and do what no one else is doing to reach people, no one else is reaching.Make sure to review and subscribe to the show on your favorite podcast service to help us connect with more church planters.
Six hundred episodes. Over a decade of laughs, lessons, and legendary missteps. For this milestone moment, Church Planter Podcast flips the mic—Chestly Lunday interviews the duo who started it all: Peyton Jones and Pete Mitchell.From their earliest interviews using Google Hangouts (complete with digital Dr. Seuss hats), to the infamous “TomTom cougar voice incident” at Saddleback, nothing is off-limits. They swap war stories from the church planting trenches, revisit the wildest guest moments, and reflect on what they've learned after 600 episodes of keeping it real for planters everywhere.Expect laughter, unexpected wisdom, a few inside jokes, and a reminder that church planting doesn't have to be lonely...or uptight.Resources and Links Mentioned in this Episode:Reliant Mission: reliant.org/cppNewBreed TrainingThanks for listening to the church planter podcast. We're here to help you go where no one else is going and do what no one else is doing to reach people, no one else is reaching.Make sure to review and subscribe to the show on your favorite podcast service to help us connect with more church planters.
Did Peyton die? Is the podcast finished? These are the questions you've been asking, and now, there are answers. Peyton Jones returns to the Church Planter Podcast with Pete Mitchell! They catch up in this episode and talk Discipology, ChatGPT, and whether they'll ever have an AI co-host.Resources and Links Mentioned in this Episode:Reliant Mission: reliant.org/cppNewBreed TrainingThanks for listening to the church planter podcast. We're here to help you go where no one else is going and do what no one else is doing to reach people, no one else is reaching.Make sure to review and subscribe to the show on your favorite podcast service to help us connect with more church planters.
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This episode features the recording of a webinar with Peyton Jones and Ralph Moore on Ralph's updated book Let Go of the Ring, which chronicles how his hands on disciple making led to over 2700 churches being planted.Resources and Links Mentioned in this Episode:Let Go of the RingReliant Mission: reliant.org/cppNewBreed TrainingThanks for listening to the church planter podcast. We're here to help you go where no one else is going and do what no one else is doing to reach people, no one else is reaching.Make sure to review and subscribe to the show on your favorite podcast service to help us connect with more church planters.
This episode features Ralph Moore as Peyton Jones moderates audience Q&A with him on the newly released version of Let Go of the Ring, which chronicles how Ralph's hands on disciple making led to over 2700 churches being planted. Click here to get a copy of the book.
This episode features Ralph Moore as Peyton Jones interviews him on the newly released version of Let Go of the Ring, which chronicles how Ralph's hands on disciple making led to over 2700 churches being planted. Click here to get a copy of the book.
Ralph Moore is the founder of the Hope Chapel Movement, which has spawned over 2700 churches globally. In this podcast, Peyton Jones interviews Ralph about his journey through ministry and how to let go of personal ambitions to let God work through him.Resources and Links Mentioned in this Episode:Let Go of the Ring bookReliant Mission: reliant.org/cppNewBreed TrainingThanks for listening to the church planter podcast. We're here to help you go where no one else is going and do what no one else is doing to reach people, no one else is reaching.Make sure to review and subscribe to the show on your favorite podcast service to help us connect with more church planters.
As we come to the end of our ten-part series based on De-sizing the Church, we're highlighting portions of conversations Karl Vaters had with five church leaders from various backgrounds about their first reactions to reading the book. Drew Dyck (author and editor) talks about the dangers of Christian celebrity. Peyton Jones (author and church planter) discusses how churches operating under the church growth paradigm are more likely to be in decline than growth. Greg Atkinson (author and church consultant) highlights the importance of broadening our understanding of church size and health. Stan Givens (pastor) comments on the importance of churches working together, and the essential role of discipleship. Sean Nemecek (author and soul care coach) looks at the high rates of burnout due to chasing numbers, and digs into the revivalist history of the Great Awakenings. Links: De-sizing the Church: How Church Growth Became a Science, Then an Obsession, and What's Next Church Plantology The Weary Leaders Guide to Burnout Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
In this podcast, J. Warner chats with Peyton Jones and Pete Mitchell, the hosts of the Church Planter Podcast about the challenges of church planting, the nature of church in America today and the role of apologetics within the Christian community.
When Jesus trained the Twelve, he was prepping them for the Great Commission. Believers have always been meant to go on mission, but mission tends to get left by the wayside after a church plant gets going. How can you prevent that? Peyton Jones has some thoughts in this episode.Resources and Links Mentioned in this Episode:Reliant Mission: reliant.org/cppNewBreed TrainingMissionbyBusiness.comThanks for listening to the church planter podcast. We're here to help you go where no one else is going and do what no one else is doing to reach people, no one else is reaching.Make sure to review and subscribe to the show on your favorite podcast service to help us connect with more church planters.Mentioned in this episode:Micro Church Conference ContestGet a free registration for the Micro Church Conference April 18-20 in Kansas City, by Brave Future. Drop your name, email and where you serve on a DM to our Instagram account www.instagram.com/churchplanterpodcast
Embark on a transformative expedition with church planting luminary Peyton Jones as we uncover the bedrock principles necessary for a modern-day spiritual awakening within the American Christian Church. In a world where the definition of church success is often measured by size, we invite you to reconsider what it means to sow seeds of faith and foster genuine discipleship. Peyton, drawing from his book "Church Plantology," imparts his wisdom on the resurgence of community churches, advocating for an apostolic model that prioritizes relational connections and the powerful simplicity of 'table talk' to nourish the body of Christ.Our dialogue with Peyton delves into the intricate tapestry of discipleship and leadership, illuminated by the masterful examples set by Jesus and the Apostle Paul. We unravel the threads of effective mentorship, discovering how pastors can identify and cultivate those with a potential for ministry, even among the unlikely. This episode serves as both a call to action and a beacon of hope, showcasing pathways for training disciples to extend the church's influence beyond its four walls and into the heart of communities thirsting for the gospel.As we conclude our session, we reflect on the collective energy derived from mission training and the unifying purpose found under the banner of Christ. We emphasize the urgency of our shared mission to dispel darkness with the light of Jesus' message and the crucial collaboration of Christians across denominations for the gospel's cause. Join us for an episode teeming with inspiration and hope, promising actionable insights into church leadership and growth, and reigniting the conversation on the significance of an American Reformation.JOIN OUR NEW ONLINE LEARNING PLATFORM!ENTER CODE - 75ULC2023 for 75% off! Support the showWatch Us On Youtube!
This week we talk to Simon Peyton Jones, a veteran language designer and researcher, and key figure in the development of Haskell. Haskell. Simon has made countless contributions to advancement of functional programming, and computer programming in general, and is currently working at Epic Games, working on the foundations of their new programming language, Verse.We discuss how programming languages are made, focussing on a big design idea from both Haskell and Verse: building a large language from a small, tightly designed core. Then we move into Simon's current work exploring Functional Logic Programming, the big new idea that underpins Verse. It's an idea that blends the fundamentals FP with the core ideas of logic languages like Prolog in an entirely new way. Not even Simon knows exactly where the idea will lead, but it's a fascinating idea that could potentially bring constraint-solving and deduction right into the heart of modern software.Additionally, Simon discusses his involvement in reshaping the way we teach computing in England. He's been working hard to give computing education the same importance as the teaching of mathematics and sciences - something we should all have a fundamental understanding of.Simon's one of the smartest, nicest people in programming. Come as hear his brilliant brain at work. :-D–Verse: https://github.com/UnrealVerseGuru/VerseProgrammingLanguageThe Verse Language Reference: https://dev.epicgames.com/documentation/en-us/uefn/verse-language-referenceThe Verse Calculus [pdf]: https://simon.peytonjones.org/assets/pdfs/verse-March23.pdfhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Peyton_JonesThe LogicT monad: https://hackage.haskell.org/package/logictCan programming be liberated from the von Neumann style?: https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/359576.359579CAS - Computing At School: https://www.computingatschool.org.uk/Computer Science Teachers Association: https://csteachers.org/Kris on Twitter: https://twitter.com/krisajenkinsKris on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/krisjenkins/
Even though there's a great need for church planting in urban, majority-minority contexts, most church planters today still focus on white suburban neighborhoods. In this interview, Peyton Jones and Dhati Lewis talk about the needed shift in church planting and what it means to make disciples locally.You can connect with Dhati at:myblvd.coThanks for listening to the church planter podcast. We're here to help you go where no one else is going and do what no one else is doing to reach people, no one else is reaching.Make sure to review and subscribe to the show on your favorite podcast service to help us connect with more church planters.
Many Christians miss out on what God wants to do through because of self-doubt, lack of purpose, or discouragement from church leaders. But God intended the Church to be a fully mobilized body of all believers. To talk about how to activate everyday believers on mission, Peyton Jones is joined by Jonathan Hardy, author of Arrow Striker and co-founder of Leaders.Church.Thanks for listening to the church planter podcast. We're here to help you go where no one else is going and do what no one else is doing to reach people, no one else is reaching.Make sure to review and subscribe to the show on your favorite podcast service to help us connect with more church planters.